#4352 “It’s Not Right!”

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL Episode #4352 “It’s Not Right!”

Podcast Information:

• Title: TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live
• Hosts: Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh
• Description: A daily show where two longtime friends navigate the world with humor and camaraderie, discussing a wide array of topics from film reviews to quirky neighborhood observations.
• Episode: #4352 “It’s Not Right!”
• Release Date: December 5, 2024

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Introduction and Light Banter (00:00 – 03:20)

The episode kicks off with Andrew and Luke engaging in their signature humorous and casual banter. Andrew initiates the conversation by describing an elaborate movie night setup, inviting Luke to join with various food contributions. This lighthearted exchange sets the tone for the episode, showcasing their friendly dynamic.

Notable Quote:

• Andrew (00:00): "I'm gonna have the guys over. We're gonna watch the fish on the big screen... pipe and hop."

Matrix Movie Discussion (03:20 – 08:39)

Luke introduces today’s topic by reminiscing about his mixed feelings toward the iconic film "The Matrix." He shares personal anecdotes about watching the movie with friends and not fully enjoying it despite the hype. Genevieve jumps in to relate, expressing appreciation for the film's special effects and philosophical themes.

Notable Quotes:

• Luke (04:15): "I remember just being annoyed. It didn't live up to the hype for me."
• Genevieve (06:03): "Anything you say that's critical of a major box office success, it hits me on a personal level today."

Transition to Neighborhood Stories (08:39 – 14:03)

The conversation shifts to more personal narratives as Genevieve introduces Andrew, highlighting his meticulous nature. They segue into discussing their neighborhood experiences, particularly focusing on a new grocery store opening in their area.

Notable Quotes:

• Genevieve (04:28): "There is no spoon."
• Luke (12:09): "Don't ruin it by alienating me and the other Matrix fans."

The SARS Super Saver Experience (14:03 – 43:22)

Planning the Visit: Andrew narrates his anticipation for the opening of the new grocery store, SARS Super Saver, a budget-friendly market with international flair, replacing a long-standing but failing local market. He expresses excitement about walking to the store and integrating it into his daily routine.

Issues Encountered: Upon visiting SARS Super Saver, Andrew encounters an unexpected policy prohibiting backpacks. Frustrated by the seemingly arbitrary rule, he grapples with the inconvenience, leading to a heated exchange with a security guard.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew (22:29): "I put the basket back, and I leave the store for a second. I take..."
• Andrew (33:51): "Can I ask a quick question? What was in the backpack?"
• Luke (37:28): "It's not right."

Reflection and Emotional Response: After the incident, Andrew reflects on his reaction, acknowledging his frustration with policies that disrupt his ideal of a walkable, convenient neighborhood life. Genevieve empathizes, drawing parallels to systemic issues like profiling and the challenges of enforcing store policies fairly.

Notable Quotes:

• Genevieve (38:19): "Is it really their solution to this problem is that you will just leave your backpack in an area where anyone could just grab it."
• Andrew (39:24): "This is my own. It's not rational, it's not logical, and it's certainly not a good look."

Grocery Store Valuations and Pricing (43:22 – 58:00)

The duo delves into the pricing strategies of SARS Super Saver, particularly focusing on the cost of local favorites like Bodhisattva IPA. Andrew critiques the store’s pricing, noting that even with discounts, certain items remain overpriced compared to other local options like Sprouts.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew (57:03): "I don't want to be a snob about it, but like, I was hoping for what I keep on calling, like one of the big, more like traditional grocery store chains."
• Genevieve (62:26): "I think that should be somehow it shouldn't be more."

Listener Messages and Community Engagement (58:00 – 73:52)

Luke and Genevieve shift focus to engaging with their listeners, sharing heartfelt birthday messages and shout-outs from their community. This segment highlights the strong bond between the hosts and their audience, fostering a sense of camaraderie and appreciation.

Notable Quotes:

• Genevieve (61:43): "The only way Andrew is able to overpay for Bodhisattva is because of the donors of TBTL."
• Luke (71:00): "Happy birthday, Joe. Have you heard of like two tens calling themselves a twenty before?"

Concluding Reflections and Final Remarks (73:52 – 75:46)

In the closing segments, Luke and Genevieve reflect on their personal experiences and the broader implications of their discussions. Luke shares his thoughts on managing emotions and navigating neighborhood dynamics, while Genevieve offers supportive insights into policy enforcement and community interactions.

Notable Quotes:

• Luke (75:10): "What is the bag? It's nothing, but it's the principle."
• Genevieve (75:21): "Stay safe if you're in the tsunami zone."

Final Thoughts and Sign-Off (75:46 – End)

The episode wraps up with a mix of humorous exchanges, final listener shout-outs, and light-hearted jokes referencing pop culture and personal anecdotes. Luke and Genevieve maintain their engaging rapport, leaving listeners with a sense of community and anticipation for future episodes.

Notable Quotes:

• Luke (66:51): "Happy birthday, Stefan."
• Genevieve (66:46): "That's sweet."

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Key Takeaways:

• Neighborhood Dynamics: The episode provides an insightful look into the challenges and joys of living in a walkable neighborhood, emphasizing the importance of convenience and fair policy enforcement.
• Consumer Experience: Andrew’s experience at SARS Super Saver highlights how store policies can significantly impact customer satisfaction and daily routines.
• Community Engagement: The hosts demonstrate strong community ties, valuing listener interactions and fostering a supportive network.
• Personal Growth: Both Luke and Genevieve reflect on their personal reactions and emotions, showcasing the show’s depth beyond surface-level humor.

Overall Impression: Episode #4352 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live offers a blend of humor, personal storytelling, and thoughtful discussion on everyday challenges. Through Andrew's grocery store narrative and the hosts' reflective conversations, listeners gain both entertainment and meaningful insights into the complexities of urban living and community interactions.

Transcript

[Andrew]

Listen, wife's going out tonight. I'm gonna have the guys over. We're gonna watch the fish on the big screen. I'm gonna grill up some brats. I got a micro brew chilling in my wet bar and I was gonna warm up some ziti. Why don't you come by if you got some triple fried pizza dough or some kind of frozen meatballs or whatever it is, you can warm it up in my microwave or you can warm it up back at home, bring it over, pipe and hop. And if you want to bring over a vegetable medley, a crudite, figure out how much lunch meat you can spare. Maybe bring over a pound and a half, two pounds of black forest ham, maybe a Dijon mustard spread, Any kind of dessert, maybe a German ch chocolate cake or something like that. I tell you what would make you a big hit with the dudes is get some key lime pie a la mode. I'm talking about ice cream on the side, right? And you have got to have a bite of my homemade ziti. I'm just gonna warm her up. She's been in the freeze.

[Luke]

Thanks for the invite.

[Andrew]

You know I love her those hot mozzarella sticks, Cube em up, put them in some marinara sauce. You have them on standby, of course. You can't go wrong with some sour cream and onions. So long as you bring ridged chips.

[Genevieve]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Tbtl.

[Genevieve]

Okay, T bone, time for some serious crunching. I've only ever said I love you to two men my entire life.

[Luke]

Stone cold Steve Austin and a guy.

[Genevieve]

In a dark club who I mistook.

[Luke]

For stone cold Steve Austin. It's 10:00 in the morning. I'm in the Charleston Town center mall, and I think I'm the first one in this bathroom this morning. It's perfectly clean. So. Look, why don't you download my blog? It's free. Of course. We do appreciate donations.

[Genevieve]

Anybody know what this is? Huh? All of this is the digestive system. And now we're gonna have a couple of guys who's gonna give us a presentation about what happens when the digestive system isn't working properly. All right? Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of tbtl. The show, it just might be too beautiful to live. It's an audiophile's nightmare. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. As Jay would say, he's got flow. Coming to you from the corner of Hollywood and Highland, California. Got sunshine here in Hollywood, California. Where California don't got sunshine right now? California got a lot of fog, which hopefully will burn off because it was promised to be a nice day and I am looking forward to it. I was looking forward to getting a little sunshine down here in Southern California. Although as the pharmacist was giving me my most recent course of antibiotics to deal with my infected tear duct, she said, just try to stay out of the sun. And of course, we were in Longview, Washington, so that didn't seem like a big ask. I didn't mention her that I was going to be down here at the corner of Hollywood and Highland. So anyway, I guess I'll. I'll see what happens. I know what's going to happen here on episode 4352 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. It's going to be fascinating. Did you know that 2024 was the year of the sort of celebrity lookalike contest?

[Luke]

Look at this face.

[Genevieve]

What do you see? Tons and tons of these celebrity lookalike contests popping up all over with various degrees of success. Something I've been very successful at lately is my captcha game. You know what a captcha is? Welcome to the Internet, where you have to like click on like all the pictures that have a motorcycle in them or something. I've taken mine to a completely. I'm in a flow state with my captcha, which we can talk about. It's also a Thursday, AKA blur day. We'll do the blur day messages with this guy. Longest running cobra of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. We had our staff meeting yesterday, he and I and John Sklaroff, and we decided that he needs to start dressing a little more professionally. And I'm really glad he is starting today dressing a little bit more for success. Check him out too.

[Luke]

He look good.

[Genevieve]

We're all black looking like Bruce Wayne. He's Andrew Welsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Luke]

I am dressed like I belong in the Matrix movie. I am wearing a long.

[Genevieve]

There is no spoon.

[Luke]

Oh, is that from the Matrix? I shouldn't make Matrix references because I don't. Well, I think I saw it once on VHS or DVD and I remember not liking it very much and being kind of annoyed. Well, yeah, listen, I don't think that I. I'm not saying here in 2024 that that is a bad movie or that I don't like it. I don't know. All I know is in college I had a friend who was bloody obsessed with it. I mean, just obsessed with it. And the guy I really, really Liked, by the way, this wasn't a guy who like formed his life around the identity of a character in Matrix. He was just like. He was a philosophy major and he felt like some of the philosophy in there was like, you know, really mind bending or whatever. And so then by. And I had been hearing about this movie, I feel like, for a couple of years, breathlessly from my friend Scott. And then I finally sat down to watch it with him and another friend and his, like, I remember it was his apartment in North Bend, Indiana or something and it was late at night and we sat down to watch it. And I remember just being annoyed. I was probably just annoyed at other things, but I remember just thinking like, this is. It didn't live up to the hype for me. It seemed like pretty pedestrian at the time, but I was also a huge snob. I was just. I don't understand why people hang out with me, honestly, especially that version of me. So anyway, my apologies for.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, I mean, Andrew, listen, do you realize that I am right now broadcasting from the City of Dreams, Hollywood, California. So anything you say that's critical of a major box office success, it hits me on a personal level today.

[Luke]

I have a direct line to Tinseltown right now. Yes, you do. Start the show.

[Genevieve]

Don't ruin it by alienating me and the other Matrix fans. Actually, I think I've seen the Matrix once. I think that I was impressed with the filmmaking, like the, you know, special effects.

[Luke]

Oh, yeah, the banding over.

[Genevieve]

And I did think that the. See little has changed from that time in North Bend, Indiana. By the way, I didn't know there was both a North and a South Bend, Indiana.

[Luke]

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was South Bend. Where is.

[Genevieve]

Was it where Notre Dame is?

[Luke]

I feel like it was where Notre Dame is. Is that South Bend?

[Genevieve]

That's the South.

[Luke]

Oh, sorry, buddy. Wait, wait, hold on. I remember you had to. This isn't gonna help you, but I remember I had to drive through Gary, Indiana from Gary, Indiana. Gary, Indiana.

[Genevieve]

Gary, Indiana.

[Luke]

Right, because Gary, Indiana, I always knew it from the song. But then you drive through it and it's a very industrial area now. Right. You drive through Gary, Indiana on the highway and you see like big smokestacks and everything.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, it's also where the Jackson 5 was from. Oh, oh, I'm going back to Indiana. Indiana, here I come. That was a big hit for them. But yeah, I think probably there was a few things happening for you in the watching of that movie, which has totally happened to me as well. Which is if there is so much hype around a movie and if it's been a long time since the movie was released, there's just no way to watch it with an open mind. I feel like if, if in 2024 you and Genevieve grabbed some, grabbed some popcorn, went into a standard movie theater where the seats do not recline, no one's trying to pretend like it's their house, and you saw the Matrix, you might find it enjoyable. But I think it had no chance of success with you. Based on all of the hype, which I totally understand. People were acting like that, like it was a new religion or something that movie and that, you know, whatever it was, did they end up doing three of them?

[Luke]

I think they did. I think they did, yeah.

[Genevieve]

I mean, the idea that we're in a simulation, and I mean, I do think, I don't even know if that falls under the category of philosophy or just science fiction or what thought experiment. But I do remember thinking that is a kind of interesting idea. You know, are we in a simulation? And I think probably a lot of people, myself included, hadn't considered that much because I don't read a lot of, you know, sci fi and things where I'm sure that this was discussed a lot. So the Matrix brought that to the front of my mind and I thought, well, that's, that's kind of an interesting idea.

[Luke]

Yeah. You know, first of all, we are in a simulation. And that is why every now and then listeners may hear a tiny little digital chirp on your voice. It's actually not bad, Luke. I'm not saying that to get in your head, but I'm thinking that if I can tell the listeners that you're.

[Genevieve]

Then you don't have to edit it.

[Luke]

Then you're on the road, then the tiniest amount of digital distortion here and there will be explained. And I don't have to like kind of. Yes, because I think it's generally a very good recording today. I'm just getting out ahead of that. I also thank you. Smart and Lazy. That'd be the name of my LA based grocery store chain. Smart and Lazy.

[Genevieve]

Smart and Lazy.

[Luke]

Smart and lazy. Speaking of grocery stores, I am now like literally, as you were doing the intro, I realized, oh, I could tell you a story about my day yesterday that involves me and my neighborhood and a rollercoaster of emotions and a little bit of stamping, A little bit of stamping from you.

[Genevieve]

I'm all ears. And by the way, this has the makings of the next hit screenplay. Andrew that's right.

[Luke]

That's why I wanted to lay it on YouTube.

[Genevieve]

Let's get you a meeting with some high level producers.

[Luke]

But here's the deal. I'm being kind of sincere about this because I kind of woke up this morning, I realized, oh, yeah, I kind of ruined my day a little bit yesterday with my attitude. And I kind of think I didn't want to talk about it. But now that I'm awake a few hours, I'm like, oh, I could tell you about this and it could be TBTL related, but I'm also sincere when I say it could wait until tomorrow. Like, you're. You're down there in L. A. If you have more pressing things on the agenda, my friend. We really don't. Okay. All right, Sounds good. I don't want to step on any.

[Genevieve]

I was going to tell you about the water dispenser in the Lowe's Hollywood hotel gym and how I think it should be redesigned. That was what I was bringing to the table. And I think your story is a much more interesting, more kind of lived experience that I want to hear about.

[Luke]

Really hoping you were going to say something specifically and how I believe it should be raised by three inches.

[Genevieve]

Well, what it shouldn't be, Andrew, is touchless. It shouldn't be touchless. Oh, yeah, because. So it's. It's one of those things where it's got, you know, a button for hot water. It's not. It's like a touch screen. And one side indicates if you want hot water. Like, who's ever getting hot water in the gym at the hotel?

[Luke]

But.

[Genevieve]

Okay, then the other one is cold water. And I looked to the side of this machine and there was probably eight, like, little plastic, you know, disposable cups that all had about a quarter inch of water in them. Like, they'd all been kind of discarded. And I thought, that's weird. And then I put my cup in there, and then I went to hit the button for cold water. And then about an eighth of an inch of water came out. And then I was like, huh? And then I hit it again and about an eighth of an inch of water came out. And then I hit it again and an eighth of an inch of water came out. And it took me a good 10 minutes to figure out, because they're trying to be antibacterial, because they're trying to be high end, if you actually touch the cold water thing, it turns it off, but if you hover your finger over it touchlessly, it turns it on. So you're constantly, if you don't know better, you think you're turning it on because you're hitting it with your finger. But it's only being activated for the nanosecond before your finger contacts the surface. It is so counterintuitive.

[Luke]

What you need to get is one of those cans of aerosol spray like you're a cat burglar and spray it around.

[Genevieve]

Exactly.

[Luke]

Where.

[Genevieve]

Where are the lasers?

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Genevieve]

So I would just say that's one of those things that is good in, you know, in theory. Oh, you know, we don't want people, you know, having to touch other people's grimy fingerprints. But in practice, clearly eight people had been defeated by this machine before I got there.

[Luke]

Are you feeling a little bit proud that you cracked the code though? Did you look at. Yes.

[Genevieve]

I feel like I'm finally ready to take the lsat. It was a logic problem.

[Luke]

Either that or get the cheese. I mean, one of the, one of the.

[Genevieve]

Honestly, I would take out that I am so hungry right now and that intro that you played. Oh, yeah, I wanted to. It's, you know, it's a joke, obviously, the things Tim Hydecker's character is saying. But I was like, I would eat that, I would eat that, I would eat that. I got into the hotel kind of late last night. It was like 10:30 and I have a pretty big day today. So I was like, I need to just pretty much get ready for bed. And I was, I was hungry, but I was like, you know, if I go downstairs and get some food or I doordash something or whatever, it's not going to get here till like 11:30. That's really late to be eating. I'm going to feel kind of low key tomorrow. I'm just going to go to sleep, which is what I did. But what that meant was when you started playing that intro, I was like, I would actually. I would seriously, I would probably, you know, crawl over broken glass to get some baked ziti.

[Luke]

Right now, I don't know even exactly what baked ziti is, but I know that I would tuck into it. I feel really good.

[Genevieve]

I had it at Thanksgiving. My sister in law, Alicia made it and it was so, so good.

[Luke]

Is it like. I always pictured as very small noodles, but maybe I'm wrong. Are they long flat noodles that you lay down?

[Genevieve]

Like these ones were kind of tubular, dude.

[Luke]

Oh, I neither. Okay. Yeah.

[Genevieve]

What do you call, what do you call that kind? That's like a sort of a, A regular, regular size tube.

[Luke]

Whatever. That. Yeah, I mean, I think zd. I think guessing ZD is the shape of the pasta. Yeah, it looks like that's it. So. Okay. Yeah, I just had it totally wrong. Yeah. These are the kind that you can kind of. You can poke it with your fork or if you're feeling nasty, you can kind of slip a couple of tines down one of these things maybe, or two of these things. Maybe wiggle it would recommend. Yeah.

[Genevieve]

Okay, so back to the. Back to the grocery store. Or I should say back to the stampiness.

[Luke]

Yeah. So this all started yesterday. I needed a haircut pretty bad, pretty badly. And it's been driving me kind of bananas. And I told you a couple of months ago I get my hair cut maybe a couple of months. I think every two months or so. So I think it was probably a couple of months ago that I told you I broke my long, long held tradition of going to Rudy's Barber Shop because, you know, I have to drive to get there. And it's just gotten very expensive. And while I do not begrudge the barbers there needing to charge what they need to charge, like, my hair is just not that complicated. So to, you know, spend $65 before tip or so to get my haircut just wasn't really making sense. And I'm like, you know, there's a little barbershop called Unique Barbershop or something in the Oak Tree Village near my house. And they say they take walk ins. What if I just walked in and just got my. Just got trimmed up a little bit. And I did that last time and I really liked it. So I went back again yesterday and I kind of knew I was going to. I sort of had it kind of vaguely circled on my calendar, knowing how my afternoon would look. And I was like, okay, yeah, I'll go get my hair cut. And then I thought, oh, even though it's so close and it'd be a nice little walk, I love walking around the neighborhood. I was like, oh, I guess I gotta drive there because then I gotta go to the grocery store afterwards. Go to the qfc. My beloved qfc. I'm like, but there was something that kind of bummed me out about having to get in the car. I just love the idea that this place is walkable to me. And I think I was getting ready to literally leave the house when I remembered Today is the 4th. Today is December 4th. The new grocery store is open. The new grocery store is open in that same plaza, which now has a coffee shop, a sports bar, and my new Barber shop, although it's been there for a while, it's new to me.

[Genevieve]

And what used to be Larry's Market when I was a kid, which was considered real high end, and then it.

[Luke]

Became more of a sort of, I think, like Latin base and maybe Asian market, I think, for a while. And people love that too, because to have access to that is great. But I don't think they were making much money. It fell into further and further disrepair. And by the time we moved in the neighborhood, going to that market, which now I'm blanking on the name of it, and it doesn't really matter, it was a pretty depressing experience, to be honest with you. It was a huge, huge space that they just couldn't keep up anymore. And it felt a little apocalyptic in there, to be honest. And I'm sorry if that's rude. So I never really took advantage of that store very much. But then it closed for the longest time and we heard that a new store was going to be moving in. And I was originally hoping for like something standard, like, you know, QFC or Safeway, the types of places I usually go. But we heard, and Genevieve got very excited about this. Genevieve started yelling, we're going to get sars. We're going to get sars. Which is a strange thing to hear your beloved say until you realize she's talking about SARS Super Saver, which is apparently the name of this chain of Budget.

[Genevieve]

Is that a Georgia chain that she's familiar with?

[Luke]

I don't know. It's now here in Seattle, Washington. SARS. I believe it's spelled with two Rs. Super Saver. Let's look at the background here. It's SARS Super Saver Foods. By the way, on the signage here, they really deemphasize the SARS and lean into the supersaver, which I really recommend.

[Genevieve]

It's weird that leprosy market never made it. I mean, they had a great deal on produce and a lot of really good fresh stuff.

[Luke]

Yeah, I was going to the H1N1 mart for the longest time, and honestly, I don't know. It started to. It didn't feel so great after a while. But anyway, yeah. So I don't know what the background on SARS is, but I see that they are a chain. There's several of them in Washington alone. I see there's one out there in Bainbridge even. And so, you know, it's presumably a budget grocery store. And so I didn't really know what to expect. But I've been Pretty excited about it because the idea of walking to a grocery store is a pretty. It's pretty high on my list of urban living. Like, I love when I lived in Capitol Hill, that was the first time I got to like walk to the grocery store at the QFC and walk home. What are you laughing at?

[Genevieve]

I am@the SARS Super Saver Foods.com website. It is Move over Space Jam website. It is a time machine. Please, Andrew, while you're discussing this spot, contact us Facebook employment shopping list.

[Luke]

There's a huge square that you can click on to get to their Facebook page. Facebook, yeah, this is interesting. But anyway, so I really like having a grocery store you can walk to. I was hoping it'd be more of the type of place I usually go and I didn't know what to expect with a super saver. I'm sorry, a SARS super saver. By the way, it doesn't help that up at the top of the website is a big banner for COVID 19 vaccines available.

[Genevieve]

Which is good, but like a syringe.

[Luke]

It's like a clip art of a syringe. SARS here, the syringe.

[Genevieve]

But anyway, check out friendster us to get this syringe at sars.

[Luke]

What? See you on Ello. Anyway, so I've been really excited for this grocery store to open. Genevieve Way more excited than me because I'm kind of like, I don't know if this is going to be the kind of grocery store I'm going to go to or not. But on our neighborhood text chain we've been getting more and more excited. Our friends, there's a lot of grocery store talk on the wordle chain now. I don't even think I've been submitting my wordle scores to the chain anymore. It's mostly grocery store talk and like an event planning at this point. But everybody's getting pretty excited about the store opening up and it did look like, oh, this is going to be more of a kind of a. Like a little bit more of a world market. It looks like they might even. They might even sell like whole goats there or something or you might be able to get them through there if you're like Eastern Europe.

[Genevieve]

Live goat?

[Luke]

No, not live. I'm sorry for eating. Yeah, yeah. For like special occasions or what have you. And so anyway, so the Croatian factor amongst our friend group was pretty excited about that. So there's a lot of rumors going around.

[Genevieve]

Anita can't stop spit roasting goats.

[Luke]

Honestly, like that's. That was a big thing. That her dad always did, I think on special occasions. So anyway, so we're all pretty jazzed about it. It was supposed to open, I think, a couple of weeks ago. Kept getting delayed. Yesterday, I'm getting in my car, or I'm about to get in my car, and I'm thinking it would be nice if I could just walk to get my hair cut and then go to the grocery store. But I gotta drive. Cause I gotta go to QFC later. Then I was like, oh, holy shit, today's the 4th. The new grocery store is open. I can do this. I texted the friend group. I'm like, you guys, I was about to get in my car and then I realized I can walk to the barber, leave the barber, go to the grocery store, grab the few things on my list. Which was literally like out of a storybook. Well, I guess the six pack of beer is not of a storybook, but it was like I literally needed like a couple of apples, a loaf of bread, and I think a six container.

[Genevieve]

Of milk, a stick of butter.

[Luke]

I wish I had those on there. Unfortunately, I didn't. Just to complete the scene, I'm like, this is just going to be great. So I grab my backpack, I go get my hair cut. Amazing job. This guy was so meticulous with my hair and then trimmed my beard. Honestly, I'd never had my beard trimmed before. But he just kind of kept going and said, you want me to trim the beard? And I'm like, yeah, clean it up a little bit. He cut it pretty short. I'm a little embarrassed. I got to go somewhere later today. It's. It's.

[Genevieve]

Luckily, I can't see you because of our connectivity today. Camera's off.

[Luke]

He gave me. He gave me the beard trimming of a younger, fitter man. He doesn't understand, as we say on this show, my beard is a face hider, as the famous song goes. And this is more like kind of a. Oh, this is a beard. To accentuate the angles.

[Genevieve]

Kind of like a five o'clock shadow with some nice little sculpting around the jawline.

[Luke]

It's not quite. If I open up my camera, can you see me? This does no good for that. You don't have to turn on yours.

[Genevieve]

That's good for me. Yeah. Okay, I'm watching.

[Luke]

Oh, I see.

[Genevieve]

Oh, okay. Yeah, I actually like it. I think it looks nice.

[Luke]

Yeah, but look at this. Now I'm not even talking the listener, but like shaved down pretty angularly down kind of where. Where my cheeks meet. Like my Mustache like this has way. Yeah, it's not. I mean, if I were, again, a young, fit man going to the club.

[Genevieve]

Like, maybe this would be a little better, right? So into Clerb. We all fam.

[Luke]

But still, he probably spent. I don't know. He was so meticulous with my hair. I mean that in kind of a good way because I get a scissor. I always say scissor short. Don't you know, don't shave me down. Don't turn me into an astronaut. Don't buzz me. I didn't use that.

[Genevieve]

I'm sure this guy from wherever he might be from originally has a great context for don't make me look like an astronaut.

[Luke]

Yeah, I said, don't make me look like a cosmonaut. No, sir. I. No, I didn't give that. I didn't give him that line. But my point is, he was so painstakingly careful at grooming my hair and my beard. And they charged me $35. I was like, I could not believe it. I think a beard trim would be probably. I'm guessing would be probably extra at a place like Rudy. So anyways, and then you walked right.

[Genevieve]

Across the parking lot and you got boneless beef chuck shoulder roast for 469 a pound.

[Luke]

Close. I walked right across the parking lot and I took a photo of a huge sign outside that said cheap chicken Thursdays or something. What did it say? I was tempted to get myself there.

[Genevieve]

Advertising at the SARS Savings Center.

[Luke]

Maybe I'll. Maybe I'll use this as a show pic. What it did is say, yeah, no, I had it right. Cheap chicken Thursday. 4 legs, 4 thighs. 5.99 chicken.

[Genevieve]

Overpay for chicken. No. One of the things that my mother taught me right before she died of salmonella of sars bird flu.

[Luke]

But anyway, so I was actually kind of excited about that.

[Genevieve]

I'm really curious about this place because the way you're describing it makes it sound like it is kind of has a sort of international flair.

[Luke]

Go deaf.

[Genevieve]

And maybe they have lots of products from different parts of the world that are maybe hard to find in a more typical supermarket. Which is kind of a cool, interesting spin. When I start seeing the Super Savings, I start thinking of something along the lines of a grocery outlet, which I have to say, like, I have darkened the door of a grocery outlet fairly recently. But my problem with it is it's like the Ross dress for less of food. You will find great deals on things, but then you will never be able to find that thing. Again, for a great deal. I was in the grocery outlet, I don't know, a year ago, and they had. I really like this athletic brewing NA beer stuff, and it's not cheap. It's like $12 for a 12 pack. Maybe that's standard, but it seems like it's more than the real beer, which kind of feels like, come on, how.

[Luke]

Much for a 12 pack?

[Genevieve]

I want to say it's 1199 for a 12 pack. Is that, is that, is that on the higher end?

[Luke]

Well, actually, let's table that more on that later. Okay.

[Genevieve]

So one time I went in there and it was a screaming deal. And I was like, holy smokes, this is now where I'm going to go to get this. And they've never had the product again. I went in the other day, I was getting some Thai food. I love this place called Molly Thai Cafe, and they're right next to a grocery outlet. So I was waiting for my Thai food and I thought, I'm gonna get me a couple of those Athletic Brewings that I love so much and I'm gonna have my Thai food and have my na beer. And I go in and I was like, do you guys have that Athletic Brewing? And the guy was like, never heard of it. So that's the issue with some of those places. I'm not saying that's how SAR Super Savers is, but I'll be curious to hear because you're such a, you're a, you know, you're a man of rituals, Andrew, and you like to get what you like to get. So the grocery store is going to need to have, you know, it's going to need to have a steady supply of whatever it is you go there for, for this to kind of fulfill your typical needs.

[Luke]

Yeah. And that's what I always said. I don't want to be a snob about it, but like, I was hoping for what I. What I keep on calling, like one of the big, more like kind of traditional grocery store chains around here because, like, I don't want to get like Neil's ketchup. You know what I mean? Like, I want to get. I want to get Heinz 7.

[Genevieve]

You want to be buying Haints, right?

[Luke]

Like, I like Heinz.

[Genevieve]

No, it hates Heinz.

[Luke]

It ain't hunting. It ain't Heinz.

[Genevieve]

It.

[Luke]

Yeah. And I, you know, because I'm kind of locked into that stuff. Like, I want my. What is it? Like my fresh step cat litter, you know? Like, I just, I'm sort of locked into certain name brands. Nothing fancy, but just like, kind of name brands. You like what you like, I like what I like. So anyway, when Genevieve was talking about this being like, kind of a, you know, a discount grocery store, I'm like, I don't really know. I'm not somebody who shops at grocery outlet. I know Genevieve was a fan of that during. When I think she lived near one for a while. So anyway, I don't shop at discount grocery stores much. I was a little bit. I was kind of like, oh, when I heard that that was going to be a sars, I was, as you might guess, a little disappointed. But then, as the day has approached, I've gotten more and more excited, at least to see what's in there, because it is such a huge space. And much like the barber, the fact that they were taking so long to renovate and get this place kind of switched hands, it was encouraging. It wasn't like something was sitting there for a long time undeveloped. They were working on it for a really long time, and it needed a lot of work. And so, anyway, I'm feeling pretty good. I'm like, this is the neighborhood dream. You walk, you get your hair cut at the local barber. You walk across the parking lot, you go and you grab some bread and some beer and some apples, and you go home.

[Genevieve]

The guy that's working at the grocery store is an older, completely bald man wearing an apron.

[Luke]

That's right.

[Genevieve]

His name is Sam. He says, hey, Andrew.

[Luke]

Like, you know, his name was Mr. Hooper, I believe. Was that the name of the guy on this. Yes, Sesame Street.

[Genevieve]

From Sesame Street.

[Luke]

Yeah. I remember, you know, he passed away, and they addressed it on the show. And I had. Remember those little Fisher Price toys, like the toy sets, where the little characters didn't have arms, they were like little pegs. Can you picture those little. They were just like a head and a peg. I had a Mr. Hooper, one of those, because I had like, a, like, 1970s era Sesame street playhouse sort of that it would open up and it would be sort of become the street. It had, like, brown stones and then, like, a little window that Mr. Hooper could. You could put him back there, and he could, like, serve groceries through this, like, window to the sidewalk. And, like, I remember, like, kind of being a bit wistful as a kid, playing with my Mr. Hooper, knowing that he had passed away, not traumatized in any way, but sort of like having this realization that this character I was playing with was no longer with us in real life.

[Genevieve]

I watched so much Sesame street as a kid because we had one little Black and white tv. And of course, we didn't have cable at the time. And my parents were very worried about anything that was worldly, but they decided that PBS stuff was okay. And, like, for instance, I didn't go to first grade. I. I kind of sort of went. Half went to kindergarten and then just didn't go to school for first grade. And then in second grade, they took me to the public school. And the people there said, well, he didn't go to first grade, so he needs to do that. And they put me in first grade. And then I guess it was a little bit easy for me, so they finally bumped me up the second grade. My mom was telling this story at Thanksgiving as a testament to her pedagogy, to her educational skills that she had imparted so much knowledge in me in first grade that I was able to, you know, basically stay, you know, on the right timeline based on my age. Like, she was basically saying, when he showed up for first grade and they made him go to first grade, he was so smart. They said, what have you been teaching him? And I said, mom, that was Sesame Street.

[Luke]

Okay, don't.

[Genevieve]

Don't get it twisted. That was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. Like, every. That everything that I needed to learn about phonics and counting and being friends with someone who lives in a garbage can was I learned all of it from Sesame Street.

[Luke]

And just think, years later, you would meet me. And that was the perfect. That was the perfect training.

[Genevieve]

I mean, I couldn't have known how.

[Luke]

Well, it was a Roughy guy who rarely sees the light.

[Genevieve]

He just occasionally emerges from the can to go, the Matrix was overrated. And then he just lowers back down into the can.

[Luke]

It's funny because it's true. So anyway, this little grouch was in a really good mood, actually. That's the perfect setup for how this story's about to turn. Oh, I was in a great little.

[Genevieve]

I forgot there was a turn.

[Luke]

Yeah, you're like, oh. And then Andrew had a nice day at the supermarket. So I'm going in, and it's like, I'm excited to see people. It's busy. People are coming and going. And you can tell right from the doors. Like sliding glass doors, big doors. It really did. It kind of had an effect on me. I was like, wow, this place is huge. It looks so sparkling and new and clean and fully stocked. And there are a lot of reasons I love a grocery store. And one of them I sort of realized during and after the Pandemic, as I sort of reflect on these things, is because of, I think, the sense of plentifulness. Yeah. And I never thought about that before the pandemic, but certainly seeing, like, the empty shelves, like this almost scary empty shelves of my local grocer during the pandemic, even me, such a bad feeling that I think about it a lot when I'm in a grocery store today, and then I see, like, full shelves, and I think about how lucky I am and how lucky we are, and it gives me a sense of everything is maybe going to be okay because there's no scarcity, which is, you know, a lot of people in the world don't have that sense, you know? So anyway, I'm sort of like, oh, wow, I'm excited to be walking in here. Right. As I'm walking in and I'm taking a few steps now, I go to grab a basketball. I grab a basket. They're brand new, Luke. They're brand new and sort of a bright orangey yellow color that I love. I'm grabbing it and then a security guard. You know, the security guards who are dressed up in, like, black pants and, like, one of those vests that looks. And again, like, I wouldn't want to be a security guard. And there's a lot of shit that goes down around here. Like, I don't want to, like, deny that. Like, I understand you need a security guard, probably at this grocery store. But he comes up to me, he's like. And he wasn't rude, but he was just like, yay. You can't bring backpacks in here. Can you just, like, put that over there or something? He kind of points. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, it's right there. It's on the door. And I'm like, oh, but, like, I need my backpack. I'm like, where do you want me to put this? And he's like, over there. And he kind of point, but there's no bag check. You know what I mean? There's no security or anything. It's just like he sort of put.

[Genevieve]

It in a pile of.

[Luke]

There were no. There were no other he. I just said. And he just sort of pointed vaguely towards like, a, you know, like, the end of the checkout place. One of the checkout places. I'm like, what? And so I'm like, oh. So. And first of all, I have such a hair trigger at being told what to do, I think, especially by security guards. I don't know why. This is my own. It's not. It's not rational, it's not logical, and it's certainly not a good look. But I think it goes back, I remember, just even to being in high school and, like, you know, a cop kicking us out of the park right as the sun was setting and we're supposed to be there until dusk or whatever. Just like. Just feeling like sometimes people in these positions of power can just sort of get off on that power. I don't think I know that. That is not what was happening in this case, but I just revert back to, like, being a childish, stubborn little brat. And I'm just. So I turn my back and I put the. I put the basket back, and I. And I leave the store for a second. I take.

[Genevieve]

Can I ask a quick question? What was in the backpack?

[Luke]

Well, let me defer that question for a moment along with the beer thing, because the answer is nothing, but it's the principle. Because that is part of the conversation I want to have, because that is a big part of the story. It's like, what was I mad about in the moment? And was it more that I was mad about how I saw my future days in my neighborhood? Because there was nothing really a value in my bag. A few. My usual things, like a battery. I like to. I always keep, like, kind of an extra from our away baggage. The battery that you can.

[Genevieve]

The lithium battery you're not supposed to fly with.

[Luke]

Yeah, I always keep that in there with a couple of cords in case I need to charge my phone. Like, I just always have my bag with me. And I think, well, if I'm going out and I don't know exactly when I'm coming home and I find myself in a coffee shop or whatever, and my phone is dying, I like to know that I can plug it in. But there was nothing really in this backpack, actually empty on purpose, because I was planning on putting groceries in there. You know, I mean, that. That was the point. I didn't take my bag to the barber shop. I wouldn't have taken my bag to the barbershop. I don't need it in there. So anyway, I immediately text the friend group. I'm like, I just immediately am pouty. I'm just like, they won't allow backpacks. It's a bad policy. I'm like, I don't know if I'm going back in.

[Genevieve]

And then they won't allow long rifles.

[Luke]

I'm dressed like Russell Wilson in that video we were referencing at the beginning. I'm in this black trench coat. All dressed in all black.

[Genevieve]

You see the problem.

[Luke]

But, you know, I'm just like, I'm put off for a bunch of different reasons. Also, the fact that I know that a lot of people in the neighborhood do have to live on the streets. They do have to carry bags around. I know that. I know that people do steal from stores. I understand that it's in the store's best interest to not allow people to steal. I understand that. Logically, I also feel that some of these policies are in place to keep certain people out of stores. And just. It was a. It was just a roiling mix in a very short amount of time of a lot of my sensibilities being rattled in a way that I did not like. So I go outside, I send a grumpy text to the text chain saying, I don't know if I'm going back in. Don't like this bag policy. Don't like being made. Felt like a criminal. And then I think about it for a second and I'm like, what are my options here? And then I go back in and I say to the guy, can you tell me more about this policy? He's like, well, it's right here. And he's like, pointing to something on the door. And I'm not standing in a position that I can see it. And I'm like, like, okay, I'm not saying that it's not on the door. I'm not trying to, you know, I seriously was not trying to give this guy a bunch of grief about it. He was just doing his job. And he wasn't. He wasn't like, super over the top friendly, but he also was not rude. Like, if I'm being honest about it, I just don't like being told what to do. And again, in this particular instance, it was a little bit triggering for me. So I'm like, well, what about. I'm like, tell me more about this policy. He's like, well, it's right here. I'm like, no, no. I'm like, if I come back, I'm like, I live in the neighborhood. I didn't drive here. If I come back, can I bring a tote bag? He's like, well, yeah, well, what's a tote bag? He's like, you mean like a duffel bag? I'm like, not like a duffel bag. I'm like, and I point. They have some reusable, like, grocery bags from there. I'm like, that, like a grocery bag? He's like, well, yeah, I think that would be Fine. And then I'm just like, oh. And so I just like leave the store sort of in a thing. And he said, I can't remember what he said as I was sort of like stamping away. This is a classic Andrew stamping moment. Stamping away moment. I don't want you to leave. I love to watch you stamp away. He says something again, not mean towards me and I just yelled over my shoulder. So me, I just yelled, it's not right. I just yelled, it's not right.

[Genevieve]

At what point did you physically morph into Paul Giamatti?

[Luke]

I literally yelled, it's not right over my shoulder. But now I'm like kind of going back home and I'm like, now I have a decision to make. Like, I've lost the battle.

[Genevieve]

Now can I. I'm sorry.

[Luke]

Oh, I'm sorry. So let me go back to. Also the bag. So the bag was empty. But it did, like, I immediately did start thinking, but my whole plan was like, there are days where I can like throw my little laptop in here, go to the coffee shop, Pilgrim coffee shop or whatever it is. Praise the Lord. We have like a Christian run coffee shop in that little neighborhood. But like it, it's a nice place. Go over there, drink a chai latte on a rainy day, walk across the parking lot with my backpack, throw a six pack and a loaf of bread in there, head home. Like that is. That is the dream of the 90s. What were you going to say though?

[Genevieve]

Well, this is my question, is, is it really. Their solution to this problem is that you will just leave your backpack in an area where anyone could just grab it. Like, is the backpack unsafe when, when you, when you were. If you were to leave it because. Cause I could see a world in which they're like, okay, you gotta like check your backpack, you gotta like leave it here. But then there's somebody, the security guy watches it or somebody actually watches it. And then okay, fine, it's kind of annoying, but you can wander around the store, you can fill up a, you know, a, like a reusable grocery bag and then you annoyingly have to put it in your backpack as you're leaving. But you're still getting that experience. But if they're not guarding your backpack, that's a terrible system.

[Luke]

Thanks for having my back on that. Thanks for having my backpack on that. That's how I feel too. And like, and because I've now I've had time to sort of digest this a little bit and calm down, like in the moment, I was just sort of seeing red. And again, this is not a seeing red situation for most people. Like, it was just. It just kind of like, it just sort of shattered this whole little vision I had of my day. And I get really locked into an idea, actually, that is something that you kind of can.

[Genevieve]

Oh, my gosh, I am so with you on this. Like, maybe. Maybe a backpack is not. Not, you know, the thing that would trigger this for me, but this idea of a version of your life that can exist and a kind of, you know, I don't think you'll get this reference, but it's sort of the opening scene in Beauty and the Beast, where Belle is just going around the town.

[Luke]

Yeah, yeah.

[Genevieve]

And everyone's saying, bonjour. And it's like this. This. This idea that you've already kind of laid it out that you could be out in your neighborhood and on foot, and. And anything that happens, you know, in terms of. Of the commerce that you need to do is going to be totally fine. And like, Genevieve says, hey, you know what? We're out of this. And you swing by SARS Super Saver and grab it. Like, that's a whole lifestyle that you felt like now suddenly is denied to you because of the backpack policy. I totally get that experience.

[Luke]

Yeah. And, you know, and we were talking about Sesame street earlier, kind of coincidentally. But honestly, it is like a. You know, it's like my little Sesame street vision of the world. You know, I grew up. Part of the reason I kind of like this sort of, like, being able to walk around my busy, little dense neighborhood lifestyle is because I grew up in the country, and all I wanted was to live the opposite of that. Right. I had a great childhood, but I wanted to live in the city because I grew up in the country. So, anyway, as I'm leaving this place, I'm thinking, like, what is my plan here? Because now I'm going home. I didn't want to leave my backpack. And I guess I did want to follow up on your point and just say that. Yeah. If they said, well, our policy is take it over to customer service. Right. Like, okay. But he was just like, I don't know, like, kind of put it over there. He wasn't annoyed. He just said, I don't know, like, kind of put it over there somewhere.

[Genevieve]

Like, I love the idea that they're like, you know, there's. We've been dealing with some crime in this neighborhood, and we are concerned that there may be theft of our. Of our groceries. So we need you to put Your backpack somewhere where a thief could very easily grab it if you could have it as close to the front door as possible so that someone could nick it on their way out. Because, you know, this is. We've determined a high crime area.

[Luke]

Right, right. And also, and the truth is, like, you got me dead to rights on nothing being valuable in this bag and this bag not being valuable anymore. This is the bag that you and I got free from Everlane. I don't know if you got one, but I chose it. I mean, this is. This bag is the bag that I've been carrying around for, I want to say, 10 years, but that might be a slight exaggeration, but, like, a long damn time. It's. And it's getting kind of rough around the edges. Like, it's kind of like I wear it around. I use it around the neighborhood. But, like, I love that this is.

[Genevieve]

Both literal and emotional baggage.

[Luke]

Yeah, right, right. No, but what I'm saying is, like, if it did get stolen, like, I need a new bag. I've been planning on getting a new bag. Like, it's not like, something precious to me. And there was nothing precious in there. There were some cough drops.

[Genevieve]

What if it's a different day and you've got your camera with.

[Luke]

That's my thing. Yeah. Like, well, and like, certainly a laptop. I definitely could see myself throwing my laptop in here, going to the coffee shop, and then hitting the. Hitting the store on the way home. And like, the thing is, this is a solvable thing. The more we talk about it, I think I might go back there with a backpack and maybe if this guy stops me and say, well, can I take it over? I now know where customer service is because I saw it and. Oh, that reminds me. Wait, I gotta tell you another super funny part of the story that just makes me look like an absolute loon. Those are the best parts. Right? But, like, now I know where customer service is. I can say to them, okay, fine, but let me take it to customer service and have them hold it and, like, just see how we can work this system. Because I'm immediately just fast forwarding to all the times that are now going to be ruined because I can't go to Pilgrim Coffee and then totally get store, which is just like, who knows if I'll ever even actually do that? But so. But the moment is strange because I'm walking home and I'm going to say, it is, I don't know, maybe somewhere between a 5 and 10 minute walk. And it goes by really quickly when you're angry. I'll tell you that much. I don't even barely remember the walk home other than thinking like, well, then I guess I'm not walking back in there because I stamped it home on.

[Genevieve]

A cloud of indignation, anger.

[Luke]

And by the way, there's a church near me too, who. They have a sign out front. And unfortunately, it's one of those signs where you can change the letters that used to be on, like, kind of their front way was sort of a non grass sort of little yard in front of the church, but it was filled with stones instead. And some asshole took a bunch of the stones, like a year ago and just threw them at the sign on both sides and destroyed. Really, really pissed me off. But now they have a new sign and less aggressive landscaping that can't destroy the new sign. But what they put in the sign on both sides, and it has been that way for like a half a year now, is. Is Hope is the anchor for the soul. And every time Genevieve and I pass that, we start workshopping that we're like, hope should not be an anchor. Hope should be something more uplifting. Yes.

[Genevieve]

A balloon.

[Luke]

Yeah. Hope should be a balloon. I understand that maybe you want to stay grounded. Hope is the anchor for the soul. We need to do better than that.

[Genevieve]

And I think that I also feel like souls are not the part of us that needs to be anchored.

[Luke]

Yeah, I agree.

[Genevieve]

Hope is the balloon for the soul. I'm not saying that that's great, but it works because your soul is sort of, you know, being pulled along by this. By this thing, this balloon. And maybe your. Your. I don't know what your reality needs to be anchored. Your rationality, but not your soul. Your soul should be untethered. Your soul should be able to go wherever it wants to go.

[Luke]

Hope is the nitrous oxide of the soul. That's what I suggested that to them.

[Genevieve]

Nope. Is the anchor of our property values.

[Luke]

Exactly. So I am in this conundrum of, do I go back home? I gotta go back home anyway. Cause I gotta get rid of the backpack, Right? I've decided I'm not leaving it on the floor of the grocery store. I'm just not. I'm just not submitting in that way.

[Genevieve]

No, I get that.

[Luke]

But now I'm like, but how much do you cut off your own nose to spite your face? Cause I gotta walk all the way back home now again. Let's just say it's like five, six, seven minutes. And then do I get in the car and get in the shitty traffic to drive all the way to qfc. I love my qfc, but this time of day, like, I'm going to be sitting in traffic, it's just like. It's kind of the thing I don't like about being in my car. You know, not going far, but taking a long time to get there and. And just like shitty rush hour sort of traffic in this neighborhood. So I'm like, do I go there? And I'm like, well, just go to the QFC or do I go to my car, throw my backpack in there, grab my tote bags and walk back? And I also say this. Carrying groceries on your back is much more pleasant than crazy. Carrying groceries into tote bags or a tote bag that you have to carry by your side.

[Genevieve]

Do you know, I have never considered the option of carrying groceries in a backpack. That has never occurred to me. Yeah, I've always assumed when I picture you on your little Sesame street runs, I somehow I always saw you with tote bags. But no, this has all been going into a backpack.

[Luke]

Well, it is true. You know, I do have very distinct memories of when I lived on Capitol Hill when I was a younger man then walking to the QFC with two tote bags and then walking home, like, literally sometimes with a baguette sticking out of it. Like, you're talking about like Ariel. Yeah, because I remember sometimes being like, it was almost like a strength test, like depending on what was in there. You know what I mean? Like balancing both bags and knowing that you had to walk again. Maybe a 10 minute walk.

[Genevieve]

Or back in the days of the plastic bags, if you had too much stuff and they're just cutting off the circulation in your fingers.

[Luke]

Yeah, no, forget that.

[Genevieve]

Slowly garroting your hands.

[Luke]

I think there's a good Baker Mayfield commercial a while back where he was. He's like showing. I remember he lived in the stadium and he's like showing up and he's trying to get into the main gate of the stadium, but he's got like a million bags hanging off his fingers. He's losing like, blood flow. So I end up going. I'm like, you know what? Screw it. I'm going back. I throw my backpack in the car, I grab the tote bags, and I stamp all the way back to the grocery store. And I'm still sort of steaming about this policy. I'm still borrowing trouble, as we say, sort of thinking about the future and what this one little. But also sort of mad at myself, sort of mad that I went from Such a high high to such a grumpy low. And it also, like. Am I going to make eye contact with the security guard? Am I going to make. Not enough. Am I going to intentionally make too much eye contact with.

[Genevieve]

Are you going to come in swinging both tote bags like pinwheels?

[Luke]

Right, right, right.

[Genevieve]

Hands out, just like, yeah, what do you got now, dude?

[Luke]

Am I. And this is something I consider. Am I going to try to carry these tote bags in a way that makes it look like I'm shoplifting as possible?

[Genevieve]

Oh, my God. That's where our journeys depart.

[Luke]

I don't even know what that looks like. It was just a passing notion. I was just angry and frustrated and impotent. Do you want to make your love making joke there?

[Genevieve]

I think it's implied.

[Luke]

I think it's the implication. So anyway, I go in. I don't even. I think the security guard was like maybe looking the other way or something. So it's a moot thing. I go in with my two top bags, but then I see a guy, Luke, who really is not unlike Mr. Hooper. He's got a big smile on his face and he's walking really fast. And it's like. It's a real. It's really shiny and clean and huge in there and a little bit buzzy, but, you know, people doing their doing.

[Genevieve]

Now I make my lovemaking joke shiny and clean and huge. Really trying to do some reputational repair here on the old Birds.

[Luke]

Love making a little bit of buzzy. But I did stop this guy kind of mid track. And I gotta say, I probably came off. I came off like the kind of entitled. Well, I was gonna disparage one of my old neighborhoods again, I won't say it that way, but I came off as one of those entitled older Seattleites who was like, grumpy. And I said to this guy, hey, are you a manager? And he said, no, I'm not a manager. But that didn't stop me. That's the funniest thing is I replay this in my head and how crazy. I had crazy brain. Yesterday. I stopped this guy mid walk. He's got a big smile on his face. He looks really busy, really friendly. And I say, hey, are you the manager? And he says, no. And then that doesn't deter me at all from stopping and saying. Stopping him and saying what I want to say, which is I'm like, hey, man, there's a no backpack policy here. Could you just pass it along? That that's really bad. Like, I live in the neighborhood. We've been excited to go shopping here for a long time, but if we walk here, we need our backpacks. He's like, what? What? And he just seems like, really confused. He's like the security guard. He wouldn't let you bring it in. And I was like, it started to turn into like, let's get the security guard in trouble. And I was like. And I, and I said, I was like, no, no, no, no. He was nice enough about it. Like, he, it's just the policy on the door, but it's a really bad policy for those of us who live in the neighborhood. He's like, I'll pass that along. I'm like, thanks, buddy. And then I just went ahead and I did, I did the rest of my shopping, but I did, like, looking back on the day yesterday, I don't think I've ever asked to speak to a manager before or. And I didn't ask to speak to a manager, but I essentially.

[Genevieve]

And you also didn. You didn't speak to a manager.

[Luke]

Fortunately enough, in my defense, I didn't speak to a manager, but I think it's a pretty bad look. I mean, again, I wasn't, I really don't think I was rude to anybody, but I could feel a swirl over my head, a little angry peanuts swirl you right? Or a little bit of smoke coming out of my ears. So I'm sure I wasn't presenting myself as the best friendliest consumer in the world. But anyway, I look back at that, a lot of embarrassment. I thought you would enjoy the story. And I have decided not.

[Genevieve]

It's not right. That's an all timer not right.

[Luke]

It's better than real polite.

[Genevieve]

You're saying it's.

[Luke]

It is better than it was.

[Genevieve]

It is not only, not both, it is not right.

[Luke]

I wanted the guy to know that I wasn't mad at him, but I was mad at the policy.

[Genevieve]

It's not, you know, what I think will happen over time? And this doesn't actually address probably this doesn't address your underlying frustration at all. And it really kind of emphasizes the, the two tier justice system that we live in. But my guess is over time, the no backpack policy will start to kind of be a sort of selectively enforced thing. Like this is day one of the grocery store open. This security guard is as trained up as he's going to be. Everybody's on their most, you know, sort of best behavior. They're minding their P's and Q's. And my guess is that in six months, if you walk in with a backpack, no one's going to say anything. If you look like somebody who was unhoused, housed, and you know, somewhat, I guess, disheveled, it might be a problem. I bet you that this thing will, there will be some sort of mission slippage on this over time. Now, that's not a good thing because that's now profiling, but I bet you that would, I bet you that's the likely outcome.

[Luke]

Yeah, you know, I was doing obviously a lot of ruminating on this last night. In fact, maybe that's why around 10:30 at night, I decided to start deep cleaning parts of my studio that I've literally never cleaned before. I discovered a use for an attachment on my vacuum that I never even knew what this attachment was for. And now I realize, oh, it's for like vacuuming shelves. Anyway, I had a lot on my mind last night and I was sort of.

[Genevieve]

Displacing your emotions?

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Genevieve]

It'S displacing my emotions attachment.

[Luke]

I want people, I want people to know and I think it's pretty clear, but I want people to know that like as the night goes on and I'm having feelings like those feelings always start to point more towards me more like embarrassment and anger at my own reaction to things. Nobody did anything wrong in this case. I do understand the grocery store's policy. I wish they would implement it better. They were open for eight hours at this point. You know what I mean? This can't be changed. I wasn't outwardly rude to anybody, but I wanted to be in my head and I didn't like who I became. But I didn't spend the night being angry at sars. Honestly, what is sars? Would you call it a disease or more of.

[Genevieve]

I think it's a. Well, let's think here. Now, SARS. COV 2. It's A, is it a virus?

[Luke]

I guess it would be a virus like the H1N1 virus. Yeah, yeah. So I, I, I am mad at the virus for, for disrupting people's lives. I'm not mad at the grocery store necessarily. I don't love this. I don't love kind of some of the broader things it says maybe about my neighborhood or, or Seattle in general or the world in general, whatever. I don't even have to get into all of that. But as I'm ruminating on it later, I'm like, honestly, this guy was, by the way, he did not in any way give me the feeling of he was power hungry or anything like that. And also what happened was good. He didn't let. Not that I'm super nicely dressed, but the clearly housed guy with a backpack, the white guy with the backpack, who clearly has a bed to sleep at night, he didn't let him pass through because I didn't look like a threat.

[Genevieve]

You think it's because you have a closely shorn, sexy beard?

[Luke]

I think that was it. He was just like, I don't know, man. If you look a little bit more scraggly. And I was like, no. I mean, that's the way it's supposed to work. If you have the policy, you apply it to everybody. And in fact, I've been thinking a lot about that, and I sort of. I'm hoping that something else happens, which is that I will go in there and I will continue to be nice to him and maybe I'll even nip it in the bud next time I go in there with a backpack. If he happens to be working or whoever is, and just say, hey, is it okay if I just take. Is it okay if I keep this? Or if not, can I take it over to, you know, the customer service? And then eventually, hopefully, it won't be a profiling thing, but hopefully I'm there enough that people just know me. I mean, you know what I mean? Like, there's so many people I recognize who work at the grocery stores I go to regularly. So maybe not so much a profiling thing, but literally, we know this guy, you know, and so that could be a solution. But in a certain way was like, that really, if they're going to have the policy, I'm kind of glad they got. They asked me to abide by the policy. Like, that's kind of a good thing as far as these things go. So you're really right about that. Oh, here was the other thing I wanted to say, though. I was like, I had one dangling thing. I think I was still a little bit just sort of grumpy about this whole thing. I was. I was carrying it around. I had a little black cloud over my head in the grocery store, kind of bumming me out. I did buy some, like, kebabs that looked a little bit like Cevape. So I don't know if it's gonna be like, Cevapi, that food that I had in Croatia that I love so much, but I grab that. I grab half a. Like, they sell those half loaves of good bread. But, you know, let's just say it was like a loaf of bread, literally two apples, a box of these frozen little Meat treats. And then I go to grab a six pack of beer. It's called. It's from Georgetown. It's a local IPA that I like that everybody around here drinks called Bodhisattva or Bodhi. And I know because. Because I live such a clean lifestyle, I know exactly how much Bodie is at various places. And like at stores that are like a 711 or an a.m. p.m. They'll jack the price up to like, sometimes It'll be like 1499. I know places where I can get it for. I think 1399 tends to be standard. Oddly, the grocery store Sprouts is the cheapest place. Sprouts, which considers itself more of a farmer's market. And like I kind of a. More of a Whole Foodsy kind of place. That's the cheapest place to get it at 1299. And I go to grab this at SARS Super Saver. And I say the full name because it matters. 1799. I don't usually look at prices. I don't know how much everything else was, but then they were like, oh, but a Super Saver discount marked down to 1499 until January 8th or something. I'm like, okay, you're claiming this is $18, but you're marking it down to still the highest tier that I've ever seen. This, like in convenience store where that stuff is marked up.

[Genevieve]

So super spenders.

[Luke]

More like sar. Super spenders. So I don't know. I don't know if they jack up the alcohol prices to, you know, you subsidize other things that are cheap. I will say that little grocery item list I gave you cost a total of like $50, almost exactly. A six pack, two apples, a loaf of bread, and a little thing of fake chavap was $50, which, you know, I don't want to get too much into. You know, like, groceries are expensive. Like, I'm glad we got Biden out of there. You know, we can really start.

[Genevieve]

Issues but pain at the pump.

[Luke]

Yeah. No complaining about prices, but I just don't think that like $50 for that relatively short grocery list is especially super savvy. Yeah, but that's okay. Like, I, you know, I can afford it, but I was just sort of like, I was, I think in my head being very critical of everything and then seeing $17 for. I'm like, do you have any idea how much Bodhisattva I drink? Super Mr. Sars. Like, come on. Yeah, like, please don't.

[Genevieve]

Don't bullshit a bullshitter.

[Luke]

Yeah, don't pour IPA on my head and tell me it's raining.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, it must be one of those things where, again, back to my, like, raw stress for less analogy. I bet you there are some real super savings in there. But I bet you you've got to be open to the experience. Experience, like something. There's probably some stuff in there that's really cheap, depending on the week, depending on the deal that they got on some shipment of something. But to go in and do your regular stuff, you know, like, you're kind of. You tend to buy the same things. I wonder if it's actually going to be the most cost effective place for you. That being said, I still think this fantasy you have of like grabbing a couple of things, you know, like, for some reason I imagine this is either you're realizing you guys need a yellow onion for whatever you're making, or Veeves is, hey, can you grab some of this? The idea that that is walkable for you is actually pretty cool. Even if you're still going to be doing most of your shopping up at the qfc.

[Luke]

Yeah. And I was not thinking this until I went in there. Well, I guess there was some buzz on the text chain about this aspect of it. But like, I honestly, even as grumpy as I was, this is why I think it's going to all be good in the long run, is because even as grumpy as I was, I was like, now I don't want to spend as much time here as maybe I thought I was going to. But I was like, there are so many corners of the store to explore. Like, there was like, just like these refrigerated sections that have all kinds of like beverages and stuff from cultures that I'm unfamiliar with, but would certainly like get down with. Like, I could actually see myself like kind of getting lost in there, trying some different things, getting out of a couple of my ruts. I mean, I still need fresh step for the cats, but like, I bet you I think this store is going to serve my needs way more than I thought it was going to. And it's also like, they just did a great job. Like, it is clean and just fresh in there, my friend. It was pretty. It's pretty good.

[Genevieve]

Can you get a tote bag that is large enough to fit your backpack in? You crumple the tote bag up, it's in the backpack.

[Luke]

That's a really good point.

[Genevieve]

Get to the store, you open the tote bag, you place the backpack inside the tote bag, you walk around this is you get yourself stuff and then you just reverse the process when you leave.

[Luke]

That's actually a really good point. That is something that I could probably do. That's. I could try that. And I'm also just open to, like, again, I don't want to be a total, like, let me talk to your manager person, but I am not against giving a new business some feedback. And like, if I could, you know, if I were to, you know, I don't know, like, say somebody, customer service, like, as I give them my bag, like, hey, you know, this policy isn't great. Or send, you know, maybe, I don't know, maybe they're looking for feedback. I don't think they really give a shit. I mean, I think that, like, the potential of irritating a guy who's clearly willing to come back is not really in one column is probably not worth the. What they would see as potential loss of letting people kind of come in and potentially clear the shelves. And listen, I am also old school. We've talked about this on the show before and people have had very different reactions when we talked about shoplifting and sort of the. Especially in grocery stores and when something is a huge chain like this and sort of the morality around that, people have very differing views on that. And I'll say when I see somebody just loading shit, because I've seen people shoplift before, that gives me a really bad feeling too. I don't like to see that either, you know, And. But also part of me realizes that if somebody is stealing, like bread, like, they're probably not doing that because they're a good time Johnny who just don't want to, like, don't want to contribute to society. So, you know, it's. It's a very complicated, obviously very fraught thing. Thank you for being a tam.

[Genevieve]

I'm going to let you in on a little secret, listeners. The. The only way Andrew is able to overpay for Bodhisattva is because of the donors of TBTL who support this program and make this a job for us and make it so that we can live lives. And we really do appreciate now that's not the only thing that we spend the money on. We spend it on rent and insurance.

[Luke]

Majority, though.

[Genevieve]

Yeah. At 1499 per six pack.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Genevieve]

Tell you what, did you end up buying the Bodie there?

[Luke]

Yeah, I did. And again, I think they were. It was like kind of quote unquote marked down to 1499. So that's still like in the range that one would pay. Oh. And so that goes back to answer your question about your fancy non alcoholic beer.

[Genevieve]

Yeah. I feel like non alcoholic stuff should be a fraction of the price. And I understand that that's not how supply chains work. It's not that much less work for whoever athletic brewing is to make a fake beer. But some I feel like you're leaving out the key component of this. This should be somehow it shouldn't be more.

[Luke]

But that is a good point. It's like, because part like my gut sort of agrees with you, then you're like, well, I don't think it's the alcoholization that costs money.

[Genevieve]

Right. That costs money leaving it in the.

[Luke]

Van any more than like Diet Coke would be less than regular Coke.

[Genevieve]

Right, right, right, exactly. You know who knows all about this is Stephen Baugh of Portland, Oregon.

[Luke]

Yeah, because I have heard and I don't know if this is true and I don't want to spread rumors here, but I think that sometimes people do drink beer in Portland, Oregon, sometimes even IPAs.

[Genevieve]

I've also heard about that. I haven't witnessed it. I haven't gotten eyes on it, but it's definitely something that I've heard about. I don't know where Stephen comes down on that stuff, but we do appreciate the support, Steve. And also thanks to David. David Gabala of San Francisco, California.

[Luke]

Classically a dry city, but someday they may get beer.

[Genevieve]

Yep. Christopher Borgia is in Seattle, Washington. Not a dry city.

[Luke]

Not at all. Might have even seen.

[Genevieve]

Not as long as you're there.

[Luke]

It might have. Might have seen Christopher at the SAR Super Saver yesterday.

[Genevieve]

Thanks, Christopher. Thanks to Matt Jones who's in Mountain View, California.

[Luke]

I have no idea what their alcohol policy he is.

[Genevieve]

I think they're mostly down there. They're consuming like what's the Soylent?

[Luke]

Oh, sure.

[Genevieve]

Do you remember the days of Soylent?

[Luke]

I do. That's right.

[Genevieve]

Mountain View is Google. Right. Or Apple.

[Luke]

Cupertino is.

[Genevieve]

Cupertino is Apple. So Mountain View is Google.

[Luke]

Oh, I don't think I made that connection. I definitely did make that connection. Gotcha.

[Genevieve]

Thanks, Matt. Appreciate you. Thanks to Reed Schumann of Lafayette, Colorado.

[Luke]

Thank you, Reed Familiar.

[Genevieve]

And then Rena Lopez rounding things out down there in beautiful McMinnville, Oregon, where I have driven through many times now. I'm a McMinnville veteran. I think I could be wrong.

[Luke]

Say it. Because I was going to ask. Say it.

[Genevieve]

Oh, I was going to say I think that there's a really cool flight Museum in McMinnville, Oregon that I think has the Spruce Goose in it.

[Luke]

Ooh, I would do that. I love the idea of a flight museum. Was going to ask if that's where McMinnamins got its name, if that's where the first McMiniman's was, but I think I'm making connections that are not really there.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, that's McMiniman's. This is McMinnival.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Genevieve]

Andrew, you've embarrassed yourself again. Well, you know, but thank you to all of our donors today for making this thing called TBTL happen.

[Luke]

There's a right way to rock in a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen, Listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but one. There is so much Tim Heidecker in our show today. There were two. Like, there was the. There was the intro tape and there was that. That tape of the people talking about the digestive system at the end of the montage. Oh, yeah, I think that's from Tim and Eric, too.

[Genevieve]

Well, but see, it's not him talking, so.

[Luke]

Yeah, that's true.

[Genevieve]

At least there's that.

[Luke]

I didn't have to let anybody know.

[Genevieve]

That we did start and we're not quite ending the show, but we're near the end. We basically started and nearly ended the show with Tim Heidecker.

[Luke]

It's a Heidi sandwich. That's what I like to call it. I like to call him Heidi. By the way, if you would like to wish somebody a happy birthday or a blur day, as we call it on this here program, email me andrewtail.net and put Blursday in the subject line. And that's all the time we have for today. So no happy 39th blur day, Josh. How lucky that your actual blur's day falls on a blur day. This year we increased the difficulty level by adding another five. But you are making sure that we have fun even when things are tough. We love you. Love Karen Elliot, Ben and Pearl.

[Genevieve]

Aw.

[Luke]

I wonder if Pearl is the newest addition.

[Genevieve]

Love it.

[Luke]

Sarah says, I want to wish my husband Joe A happy 40th blur day. Oh, this is Sarah and Joe, I think, and I could be wrong, I've embarrassed myself enough on this show to. But I think Sarah and Joe are the folks I hung out with after, I want to say, the Brooklyn show, maybe. So explain that. Me and Sarah and Joe were up quite late. I want to wish my husband Joe a happy 40th birthday. He is the bad boy of business intelligence, A true spreadsheet specialist, My barefoot dork. And tbtl poppy. There's no one else I'd rather be a 20 with. Oh, a 20. That's when two tens. Oh, how nice is that, by the way? Sent from Portugal, where we're just visiting. Whoa. Happy birthday, Joe. Have you heard of like two tens calling themselves a twenty before? I think a lot of the time.

[Genevieve]

First I've heard of that.

[Luke]

Yeah. Because often it's just like one person, the relationship. Right. And the other one is sort of.

[Genevieve]

I mean, interestingly enough, most of the relationships are technically 21.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Genevieve]

You know.

[Luke]

No, no. Eleven. So explain that. Oh, yeah.

[Genevieve]

Because one person's a 10 and one person's an 11.

[Luke]

That's true, twin.

[Genevieve]

It's like golf. It's like golf. You want it to be a 20 and not a 21. If it's can. If it can be a range, a lower score, but only down to 20 is what you want to get.

[Luke]

But what if it's a soft seven?

[Genevieve]

Always or never, buddy.

[Luke]

The thing is off seven, I, of course it is like I was close there.

[Genevieve]

Well, It's a soft 17, but it soft 17.

[Luke]

I knew I was doing something wrong.

[Genevieve]

But it's a seven though. It's a soft 17 is also a seven, so you've got to hit that soft seven. Nailed that joke. Unbelievable, right?

[Luke]

Andrew says now, is this me, Andrew or a different Andrew? I guess we'll find out. Let's see how romantic this is. Andrew says, wishing a happy bluray to the love of my life. Anna, you are a truly fantastic partner and an amazing person. We've been together for 20 years now and every year I am more and more in love with you. I hope you are having a great day and that I don't accidentally scare you when I come home and you're listening to your friends in Seattle while wearing noise canceling headphones. Happy Blurry Ann.

[Genevieve]

Love it.

[Luke]

And I laughed and laughed.

[Genevieve]

What is that the whole time?

[Luke]

I would like to wish my longtime pal it Allen a very wonderful birthday on December 6th. I introduced him to your show some years back and as much as I've had to claim TB tail bankruptcy as a listener myself, he has stayed true to the blue to you. No, stayed true blue to you. True to the blue is something else. He has stayed true blue to you. Your friend, Step Diggity Dog Newton.

[Genevieve]

Step Diggity Dog Newton.

[Luke]

I don't usually go with full name. I believe the full name here is Steph Newton. I do. I usually always take away the last names in These messages, but when you throw a diggity dog in between. Yeah, what am I going to say? From Steph. Diggity dog.

[Genevieve]

No Steph. Exactly.

[Luke]

You got it. So explain that. Nobody docks him. Jay says, please wish a happy birthday to my husband, Stefan. I've had a lot of wonderful moments in my life, but the best one was when I became your wife. And then it's got that emoji, Luke. You know, the emoji where you put your two hands together and it looks like a heart is on the inside of it. You know that emoji. Happy birthday, Stefan. I think Jay and Stefan must have close birthdays because I feel like we were celebrating Jay's maybe last week or recently. All right. Nathan in Salt Lake City says, I like to wish my best friend and best 10 Jesse in Albuquerque. Albuquerque. Albuquerque. I didn't do that. Right. Albuquerque. How does he say it?

[Genevieve]

Albuquerque.

[Luke]

There you go. Thank you. I like to wish my best friend.

[Genevieve]

I'm down here, Andrew, in, you know, Hollywood. So I've got all of the Looney Tunes voices right at the ready.

[Luke]

Thank you, Mel Blanc.

[Genevieve]

Yes, very good.

[Luke]

You could hear the insecurity in my voice. Jesse And Albuquerque, happy 40th blur day. Thank you for your support, your intimacy, your wisdom, your friendship. Most of all. Yeah, that's in there. I didn't pre read it. Most of all, thank you for taking a blind leap and joining me in this weird ass cult so I can speak in drops with someone. I love you very much, Happy Blur, Jesse.

[Genevieve]

That's sweet.

[Luke]

And finally, oh, yeah, this one came in from our friend David of the Smittens fame and says, jeremy, we have known each other for half our lives and I wouldn't have it any other way. Way. The reason I laugh is this email came in and it said, jeremy, we have known each other for half our lives, and I would have it any other way. And I thought it was hilarious. But then I wrote to David and I was like, you're joking here, right? Like that's on purpose. That's not a typo. And he's like, no, no, no, that. That was a typo. I. I wouldn't have it any other way. No. What a great way to just kind of bust a friend's chops. We've known each other.

[Genevieve]

I would have it literally any other way anyway.

[Luke]

But no, David actually is polite and loving towards Jeremy, and I applaud that. David says, happy Blur's day. If we are lucky, Luke and Andrew will go on a tangent about how they're oh, Andrew and Luke will go on a tangent about their first CD players in the middle of the Blur stay. I actually really was into the realistic clarinet record player talk the other day. Unfortunately, we are near the end of the Blur days here and we. We are running out of time. I'm going to run out the door here, but I will say my first CD player was a JVC large boombox with detachable speakers. And my first CD that I bought for it was the new. The brand new at the time, I believe. Pearl Jam VI. No, I think it was Pearl Jam 10. I can't. I think it was Pearl Jam 10 was my very first CD. What about you?

[Genevieve]

I think it was technically a Philips. I think Philips was the manufacturer of this allegedly ostensibly portable disc player, which I've talked about on the show hundreds of times. It was. I bought it at a. I bought it second time around, which was like a kind of a head shop on the ave. It was used and it was the only one that I could afford. It was so enormous, it might as well have just been like a boombox or something. And I think the first CD that I had was stolen from my friend Peter Williams older sister Dahlia. I think it was half Harvest by the singer Michael Penn. And it was less because I was some like cool guy ahead of the curve. And just because she wasn't guarding the CD very closely. And I listened to that thing front to back thousands of times. Again, just because that was the CD that I had.

[Luke]

Oh, I see, I had that backwards. I thought you had a CD and then it was stolen by your friend's sister. No, no, you.

[Genevieve]

No, no, no.

[Luke]

As they say, I stole it.

[Genevieve]

I stole it. Stole it from her.

[Luke]

I see.

[Genevieve]

And. And then was listening to it and it was, it was. Again, it wasn't because I was like. It was. I. You know, if I had my druthers at that point, let's see, it's 90 something. I probably would have been listening to, you know, God, who even knows dance? No, no, no. I was post Christian music. But I was. I was definitely like. That was a. That was a. Both a crime of opportunity and then a listening experience of opportunity. The other problem with that CD player was it was so massive, it. It used like, I want to say D battery. What are like the big round batteries? It used like D batteries, Andrew. And I think it would. I think you could play a CD, would eat through like 4D batteries. It was such a shit show.

[Luke]

I have so many D batteries because I thought one of my vintage radios took D batteries, but it turns out they were C batteries. And I just. I stocked up on D batteries and now I don't know what to do with them. I was, you know what's? Excited to find out one of Genevieve's battery operated lanterns. Take Ds. That's all they have. Good. Yeah.

[Genevieve]

This is the second time in a row. Andrew, I've been doing this show with you from California, and there's been an earthquake in California.

[Luke]

Oh, no. Did it just happen? Happen?

[Genevieve]

I'm seeing that it's in Northern Cal, you know, where the dateline is. Eureka. The very place of my birth. And now they're saying there's a tsunami warning for California.

[Luke]

Oh, a 7.0. That's big, right?

[Genevieve]

So, anyway, I need to stop broadcasting from California because this is becoming a trend. Anyway.

[Luke]

Yeah. Oh, I hope everybody's okay.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, I guess we'll see. Okay, thank you for listening, everyone. We will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. So please, please, if you can join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourself, stay safe if you're in the tsunami zone. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Luke]

And good luck to all. Power out.