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#4359 I’m 0 For Everything
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Luke had a meltdown during a CBS shoot this weekend and he’s not feeling great about it. At all. And Andrew learns more about the "Yoda" in his yard.
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Luke Burbank
About nine years ago, I managed to convince myself that I was nine years old. Every day I walk out into the street, I see things as a nine year old would see them. Does that make sense?
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Andrew Walsh
Yes and no. I mean, you're.
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Luke Burbank
What are you, sat on?
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Michelle
A bed?
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Luke Burbank
That's not. It's a bouncy bounce.
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Michelle
Bouncy bounce. Okay.
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Luke Burbank
What are those on your feet?
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Michelle
They're shoes.
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Luke Burbank
They're not. They're your chew tubes.
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Michelle
I mean, how else do you live.
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Andrew Walsh
Like a 9 year old? I mean, you're drinking.
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Michelle
You're drinking alcohol.
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Luke Burbank
This isn't alcohol.
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Andrew Walsh
This is.
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Luke Burbank
Oui, oui, oui, oui. You can do this. Really. Stand up. Ok. Ok. Come on, shake it off. I mean, that's it.
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Michelle
I feel silly.
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Andrew Walsh
I know.
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Michelle
No, no, no, no, no, no.
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Luke Burbank
You're nine years old.
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Michelle
It would be nice to not care as much about what other people thought.
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Luke Burbank
It's the best.
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Michelle
I am Michelle. I am Michelle. Nancy, you want a good jump on the bed?
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Andrew Walsh
I'm a bouncy bounce.
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Luke Burbank
Get off there.
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Michelle
What?
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Luke Burbank
Come off there. Not on Daddy's bouncy bounce. You know this.
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Michelle
Tbtl.
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Andrew Walsh
The first part of being smart is knowing what to do. We're gonna. We're gonna know. We're gonna have systems in place that are easier to learn. Cause when we can put that. Cause when we can learn our system and we can get good at our system, then our talent can take over.
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Michelle
Can I throw something on you?
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Andrew Walsh
See if it feels good?
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Michelle
Sure.
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Andrew Walsh
Okay. This is what I would do. I would start with a joke. Vince Vaughn quote, obviously.
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Michelle
Swingers or Crashers?
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Andrew Walsh
Fred Claus.
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Luke Burbank
Can I just stop you real quick.
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Andrew Walsh
And just say what a wonderful atmosphere you have here? A lot of energy, a lot of emotion, a lot of fun, a lot of high fiving, a lot of smiles.
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Michelle
You're both little troublemakers.
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Andrew Walsh
You're both huge in Japan. You probably have a lot to talk about.
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Michelle
Go keep things light.
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Andrew Walsh
Don't bring up your divorce.
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Michelle
Well, all right.
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Andrew Walsh
Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of tbtl. The show just might be too beautiful to live.
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Luke Burbank
The enormity of their flat brain, the enormity of their stupidity is just overwhelming.
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Andrew Walsh
My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. It is our turn, coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it is gray and grimy and slimy and rainy and windy. I went on and on last week about something called the Rapid Shelter, which I had set up at my house with a great amount of work. Going into it. And then I did a whole thing on Thursday at the advice of the guy that's out here working Beau, which was to keep it from blowing away. I filled up four different five gallon buckets of water and hung them from the corners of the rapid shelter, only to come home to find the entire thing blown over and twisted and destroyed beyond repair. So that's the weather we're dealing with here at the Madrona Hill studio. That's fine though, because as we like to say, it's warm and dry here inside the studio for episode 4359 in a collector series, Let the fun begin. And that wasn't even nearly the worst thing that happened to me in the last three days since we've spoken. I had a bit of a meltdown in Los Angeles and things happened that have not happened to me before when I've been taking part in a network television filming project. I wish I hadn't done that, not feeling great about it, but this is where I guess we process these kinds of things. We'll talk about that. Also, try to get my spirits up by making some pizza beans yesterday for football watching. Sometimes you gotta stop and smell the pizza. I ended up at the topic of pizza beans by the most sort of roundabout. It's not even circuitous, it's just weird. And I'll explain that as well. And I'm gonna talk to this guy. Longest running cobra over the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Yeah. Oh, yeah, buddy. He's Andrew Walsh. He's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
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Michelle
Good morning, Luke. I have one important question that I've been wanting to ask you all weekend long, ever since you texted me on Friday night and said there was a bit of an incident on the shoot that you were on.
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Andrew Walsh
I was trying to leverage you into talking about your issues at your local grocer.
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Michelle
There's no time for that today. We have too much to talk about because the one que. And literally, I've been thinking, when we open up the mics on Monday morning, the question I'm going to ask Luke is this. Did you say the phrase, and I pray you did. Did you say the phrase, I think we're done here? Did you say, I think we're done here and remove your lavalier microphone and storm off the set?
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Andrew Walsh
I did remove my lavalier microphone. I did storm off the set. I did not say anything cinematic like that. The thing about having a meltdown, Andrew, is you don't plan it, don't Usually say the cool thing in the meltdown.
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Michelle
Oh, really? I do. Real polite car.
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Andrew Walsh
Don't touch me again.
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Michelle
It's not right.
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Andrew Walsh
It's not right. I wish that I would have had a cool speech ready to go, but I did not, Andrew. I just. I just felt embarrassed and feckless and to some degree impotent. And it all got on top of me and I behaved very petulantly. I'll just try to give you the, like, the five minute version.
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Michelle
Yeah. If you don't mind. Let me tell listeners what I do know, because actually we have an interesting hey, dummies question coming up at some point that maybe one of us can answer, but I'll briefly address it here. And somebody wanted to say, like, how much of our show is kayfabe? Especially, like over a weekend with a story like this.
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Andrew Walsh
Like, how much I saw that email that was like, are you faking it?
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Michelle
How dare you. I fake my laughs. I fake a lot of things on this show. But I'll have what he's podcasting. But no, the truth of the matter is, generally speaking, and today is we don't ever pretend we don't play dumb about each other's stories. I will say that you texted me on Friday and said, hey, will you tell your embarrassing story of whatever happened at the SARS grocery store if I tell you about my meltdown on the set? And then we texted back and forth a little bit. So that's essentially all I know. I know that you were in la, or I think I know that you were in la, presumably, or primarily to interview the band Metallica. Right. About a special event that they were holding with kids.
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Andrew Walsh
Yes, in a roundabout way. So we're doing a story about the charitable arm of the band Metallica, which is actually a very robust thing and kind of very cool, actually.
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Michelle
Do you know that Def Leppard only has one charitable arm? Oh, my God, I can't believe. I had to. I had to interrupt you. I had to say the worst joke. I. I could not, you must understand. I couldn't not say that.
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Andrew Walsh
Do you know that when I was in, I think maybe late middle school, early high school, there was a student, a fellow student, named Marcy McDougall, whose number one heartthrob in her life was Rick Allen, the one armed drummer from Def Leppard.
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Michelle
I love that.
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Andrew Walsh
I mean, you know, he was a very, and he remains, I think, a quite attractive guy. He's down one arm, but he's otherwise, you know, you know, again, quite, quite handsome, quite accomplished. It did strike me as slightly an affectation, like, of all the people in the world, you're going to like, have like a. Like a picture, like in your Trapper Keeper, you're going with Rick Allen.
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Michelle
Yeah, I mean, the earlier generation dealt with the people who said they liked Ringo the best. I mean, there's a. There's a long tradition.
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Andrew Walsh
There you go.
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Michelle
So, anyway, sorry for the. For the off color joke there.
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Andrew Walsh
So I was. So we're doing this story about the charitable work of Metallica, which, again, is actually an interesting story. They have this basically what happens when Metallica goes to a city. There's the. There's like, parallel tours going on. One tour is the band is going there to play some arena, and then they have this woman who runs their charity who is also. Then, like, the band decides how much money are we going to, like, leave behind in this city to, like, food banks and other organizations, like, other deserving organizations. And they literally, like, have a number. And some of it's generated by a percentage of the ticket sales, and some of it's just like out of the largess of the band. And then this. This woman goes around just basically like, bestowing money on people in whatever town they're in. They also have this thing that's kind of like called the Metallica Scholars Program. And what they've decided to do is go in and fund all of these trade programs, like, at community colleges. So, like, for people to become, you know, plumbers or welders or, you know, particularly women in some of these fields where women are really underrepresented. And folks get really into this because they like being the Metallica Scholars, like, it's. It's an attractive thing to them. And so we were. I was actually not interviewing the Metallica guys. I did meet them briefly, but I wasn't interviewing them on Friday. I was interviewing the people that work within their organization. And then down the line, we're going to interview Metallica. We're going to, like, sit down with them and, like, get into it. Like, why is this so important to them? Et cetera. And that's kind of relevant to this story because, like, basically what, you know, they were playing this big benefit concert at the, like, at SoFi Stadium in LA, but there's now a. There's a theater there called the YouTube Theater. And they were playing this charity show there. And so in the daytime we were interviewing again people that work with their charity. And then there was a red carpet that before the concert started. And the idea was. And this is where things started to go off the rails for me. I didn't really think this through, how much I hate being on a red carpet, like as a interviewer, right. I've only done it one other time and I've told the story extensively on the show, but it was some kind of a comedy thing and there was a red carpet and I had been hired by Bing, the Microsoft search engine, to go and like interview people on this red carpet or something. And there's something about the energy around a red carpet that just causes me to have a fight or flight instinct, like feeling. It's something about the fact that it's so sort of synthetic and it's also almost like scientifically designed to not have any actual useful conversation generated.
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Michelle
You know, it's one of the most superficial places.
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Andrew Walsh
It's, it's unbelievable how superficial the red carpet is. And I don't, I don't understand why it exists. I guess, you know, Entertainment Tonight and Extra or whomever, I guess this is how they get content. But outside of that, it's just, it's the, it's again, there's no nutritional value to the event. And I looked at the shooting schedule and it was like, oh, and then we're going to talk to, you know, so and so on the red carpet. And I, again, that's when I should have said, hey, I don't really want to do that. Like, I don't like that situation. It makes me feel embarrassed. I'm bad at it.
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Michelle
Because there were other interviews and other backdrops, right? You were talking to people at various places before this.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah, we were in like a really cool room inside the theater that our amazing crew had lit very artfully and stuff. So we had like two nice sit down interviews. This was just like, well, hey, there's going to be some famous people who aren't in Metallica who are going to be on this red carpet. And so also you're going to interview them. And again, what I should have done when I saw that on the schedule was said like, I don't want to do that, but I didn't think to say that. I just kind of showed basically after the interviews, you know, and after we sort of did all this other stuff, I then just like walked over to this thing and right when I got there I was like, I don't like this, like bad feeling. Like, first of all, there's all of these different media organizations there and the people running it. First of all, this thing was not this like red carpet, which by the way, it was a black carpet, Andrew, because, you know, rock and roll.
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Michelle
Rock and roll.
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Andrew Walsh
We don't do. We don't do red carpets. We do black carpet because a rock and roll. And so they did not. The first problem was just an issue of geography. There was not enough geography for the media organizations on this red carpet slash black carpet. In other words, we were all, like, clustered together in a way that meant that nobody had enough room. So we had. There was like a printout that said CBS Sunday Morning. And next to it said was a printout that was. These were, like, taped down to the carpet. And the next. Right next to it is a different, you know, normal sheet of paper that says KCAL9. And then on the other side of us was like, the official Metallica podcast. And this was not enough room for three human beings to be standing on the other side of this. Like, there was like a, you know, a velvet rope or something.
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Michelle
And so you're literally standing. I was picturing that. But I also, honestly, when you texted me this weekend, I've been picturing you in those foldable, like, director's chairs. I was thinking, like, you might see.
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Andrew Walsh
Oh, that's more of a junket.
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Michelle
Yeah. You know what I was picturing? And I don't know why I know that you weren't at the Thanksgiving Day parade. Or I picture, like, don't they have little sets set up on New Year's Eve, like, whatever the big NBC show is or whatever the ball drop. Yeah, you can picture, like, oh, it's us. And two of these extra chairs for special guests who are gonna sit down quickly. But no, you're standing there literally shoulder to shoulder.
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Andrew Walsh
Two director's chairs.
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Michelle
Okay.
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Andrew Walsh
And not shoulder to should. Andrew behind this, like, reporter for KCAL9 who shows up first of all, the camera guy from the local LA affiliate busts in, like, at the last possible second and sets up his tripod and his huge camera. And it's right where we need to be standing so that we can get access to these stars. Right. And then the reporter from KK9 shows up and immediately plants herself in the spot that we're supposed to be at. So now there, I don't have any access to this thing. And if this was something that I cared about, I think I would have advocated for myself a little more actively. But I was. I didn't want to be there anyway. And so it just. It was this kind of. It was this kind of a slow speed crash where it was like, I couldn't really get to the walkway. What was happening was when there would be somebody coming who I thought we were going to talk to. I would have to step over this rope and then I'm. I'm on the red carpet now, the black carpet, because rock and roll. I'm like, I had to step over this rope and step around the Getty Image photographer who's getting annoyed because I'm blocking him. Like everyone who's there except me, this is their meal ticket. And they're all very sensitive about somebody blocking their photo of Joe Satriani.
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Michelle
Can I just jump in here and say this does remind me, while I've never been in the official red carpet event or any of the black carpet. Look at me, I'm rock and roll. Of course.
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Andrew Walsh
Absolutely.
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Michelle
All the carpets in my house are black. They weren't when I moved in. Weirdly, a lot of bong walk, sir.
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Andrew Walsh
I believe that's mold and you need to have that remediated.
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Michelle
Wait. It's not toxic though. But I was going to say in the very limited and much smaller scale events that I've had to mic up or something as a producer, you're reminding me or I guess maybe a little bit too. Even though I was mostly doing it for fun, there have been a couple of like concerts that I've gone to where I've had a photo pass. And so you get like the first three songs, usually I think a standard three or four songs. You get to go in this little area right in front of the stage where all the other photographers are and it's just click, click, click, click, click. But then also I'm thinking of like a press conference. Probably more of a journalistic kind of endeavor and less celebrity based. But like just like the.
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Andrew Walsh
Trying to use the malt box.
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Michelle
Andrew, trying to use the Maltbox. Or if you show up late, you can't get to the malt box. You just have to be bold and like clip your mic up onto the podium or whatever. And this is. You're reminding me of an aspect of these things that I had totally forgotten about since I retired to my basement, which is that since you took to your bed, I took to my bed. You're not a big part of the job isn't just like getting the sound or asking the right questions or doing this. There is a built in especially for, I think for the technical people, more like camera people and sound people. They have one job and that job is not to make friends with the other people there from representing other media.
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Andrew Walsh
Competitive environment.
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Michelle
It is competitive and they will. And you Literally have to be. You have to be ready to fight for the spot. Even the spot that was given to you or assigned to you. Like that camera person from KTLA does not give a shit. And I guarantee you. Was it a man or a woman? Whoever it was, it was a man. I guarantee you that. He's gone toe to toe with people who've wanted it that morning. He probably went toe to toe with somebody who wanted it more than you. It is part of the job. And people like you and I. Well, maybe, like you say, maybe you would if you felt it were important, but for something like this, you're not fighting for that shit.
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Andrew Walsh
No, I was already like, I already didn't want to be doing this. So my level of, like, defending my turf or my, my sense of defending my turf was extremely, extremely under impressive. I just, I didn't feel like fighting with these people so that I could talk to the wife of the bassist from Metallica who is listed as a fashion designer slash philanthropist. Like, I just didn't want to. Yeah, I didn't want to.
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Michelle
Like, where do you begin? Like, how can you get.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah, exactly. There's so many.
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Michelle
All the good content out of just, like, quick interaction. Yeah.
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Andrew Walsh
And so there was three people that I was thinking, okay, well, we'll try to talk to these people. And I was going to try to come up with some way to make the conversation with them slightly relevant to the larger story we're doing. And the people were like, Jimmy Kimmel was the host of this event at the theater. So Jimmy Kimmel shows up, by the way, taller than I expected in real life, he's got to be my height, if not a little taller. And I was like, wow. I guess I always perceived him to be a, you know, maybe a, A guy who's in the, in, in the 5, 8, 5, 9 range. No. Tall, nice looking guy shows up. And I'm going to ask him like, okay, because he hosted this thing last year. And my question was going to be like, you know, you've hosted this a couple of times and, you know, you get asked to do a lot of things. Why does this matter to you? What is, you know, what do you know about the sort of charity aspect of Metallica? Like, what do you make of that? I don't know. I also, by the way, really like Jimmy Kim. Like, I'm a big fan and I had a whole plan when he got to me, which was I was gonna say, hey, I'm with CBS Sunday Morning. And I was gonna say, the favorite Television show of fla. FLA. Flow high. Now that's Gary Delay on the Stern Show. They he in particular, but most of the producers, like, are weirdly obsessed with CBS Sunday Morning, and Jimmy Kimmel is weirdly obsessed with the Howard Stern show. So I thought I would, I would bond with him over my deep knowledge of the Stern universe and ask him my question. Now, the other thing that happens on these red carpets or black carpets is rock and roll. The person. So the, the guy from Rage against the Machine, Tom Morello, is hosting the red carpet. So he's standing at the far left of this thing, which is where the people are arriving. And his job is to like kind of interview these people. He has a teleprompter and stuff and he's interviewing these people. It's being filmed for something.
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Michelle
So he's the first person everybody stops at. So Kimmel gets out. Is Kimmel getting out of a limousine?
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Andrew Walsh
We were really far away from where the cars were, I assume.
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Michelle
Yes, but okay, so people are getting out. It's almost like a gauntlet of press. And the first person is the boy. He's really raging against the machine there on the red. I'm sorry, black carpet.
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Andrew Walsh
Black carpet. Andrew, if it was a red carpet, machines would not be raged against. But this is a black carpet. I mean, I mean, what part of black carpet don't you understand?
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Michelle
Nothing says raging against the machine more than interviewing a late night host on a red carpet event. But anyway, having said all of that, so like, presumably he's at the beginning of this press gauntlet.
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Andrew Walsh
He is the beginning of the gauntlet. Exactly. And he interviews everyone and then they continue their way down. And in front of anyone who is going to be walking this carpet are a number of like young, ish women, women in their 20s who are part of some PR operation. And what they're doing is walking down in front of the person because you've got your Jimmy's Kimmel. But there's a lot of people that are less well known that are also on this carpet. And so the, these young people are walking with a headshot of the person who is just to their right, who's coming down the gauntlet. And then a. In like size 29 font, the person's name and maybe one biographical detail. And they're showing it to all of us, like, here's who's coming. Don't make a fool of yourself. This is what their association is.
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Michelle
Right. And is there an expectation that you have to say something to every person or can you Like. Like a sushi conveyor belt. Can you just wave some people by?
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Andrew Walsh
I did, although it was awkward because they come by and they go, do you want to talk to so and so? And I was like, oh, we're good.
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Michelle
And then I talked to them at the office. Thanks.
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Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I mean, it is awkward, actually, because there was, you know, there was only a few people that I thought we might get anything that we could use in the story. And again, I didn't even think. I didn't think there was a good chance that anything we got there would be useful for the story. And also, we're, like, going to James Hetfield's house in Vale in a couple of weeks. Like, I'm not trying to be too cool for school, but I feel like the nice thing about this show that I work on is we're privileged enough to get pretty good access to most of the folks we're interviewing. And that's the way that I would like to talk to them, like, in a long form, get to know them a little bit, ask them some questions and not like, you know, yelling over 50 other paparazzi. Some sort of a question, you know, about whatever.
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Michelle
So, Luke Burbank from Pretzel Bites tv. Bagel Bites tv. What's your favorite thing to eat when you're jamming out? Sorry, Iggs.
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Andrew Walsh
Andrew, there's a reason why that's one of my very favorite pieces of audio that we play on the show because it is so true.
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Michelle
We should vibe. That is from the show. The other.
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Andrew Walsh
The other ones.
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Michelle
The other two, I believe. And if I can call it up here just so that.
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Andrew Walsh
So good.
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Michelle
Bring other people into this conversation.
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Andrew Walsh
If you told me this was a documentary, like, if you told me this was a nonfiction recording, I would say this completely checks out.
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Michelle
The story is about the other two. Referenced in the title are the siblings of a young pop star who's actually a really, really nice kid, but he's like Justin Bieber age kid when Justin Bieber was younger.
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Andrew Walsh
Is his name Chase Dreams?
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Michelle
And his name is Chase Dreams. And you'll hear that in there. And you'll hear Chase Dreams here. And again, he's a sweet kid, but he's on a red carpet and there's somebody calling him out. And again, his name is Chase Dreams. This is like a reporter of some kind right here. Chase, what's your favorite thing to snack on when you're jamming out to music? I don't know. Everything's good. Okay, well, we're streaming live on Bagel Bites tv.
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Andrew Walsh
So can you say Bagel Bites?
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Michelle
Oh, yeah, Bagel Bites. Okay, great.
- [23:23]
Andrew Walsh
But can you say it in a.
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Michelle
Sentence like, I'm chase dreams, and when I'm jamming out to music, I love to eat Bagel Bites. I'm chase dreams, and when I'm jamming out to music, I love to eat Bagel Bites.
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Andrew Walsh
Okay, great. Congrats on whatever it is you do. I love it. I mean, Andrew, when I say. That is so spot on. The other one of these things that I went to, and I know that I told this story back when it happened years ago, but there was a guy next to me who was from Bagel Bites TV or whatever. And his thing was he was from, like, reals reels. Reels films.net or something. You know, like, hey, hey, tim from reels films.net. and as these people were walking by, he was, you know, getting his sort of pull quotes from them or whatever. And this thing I was at, this is not Friday, but many years ago, it was honoring Seth MacFarland. It was a comedy event, like a comedy awards thing. And Seth MacFarlane came up to this guy and he was like, hey, you know, so and so from whatever. And he goes, can you talk about the release of, like, Family guy, like, season five DVD? And then Seth MacFarlane, like, says, yeah, you know, we know we're really proud of the show or whatever, he says. And then the guy goes, like, now, can you say it? Like, it was released today. And the guy was like, yeah, Seth Rollins, like, yeah, yeah, today. You know, he does, like, a Bagel Bites thing. And then the guy's like, okay, now can you. And I forget what the third thing was, but it was another, like, weird timestamp that he wanted on the comment about the DVD release, right? So that he could use this at various points. And I was proud of this because then when Seth MacFarlane got to me, I said, hey, could you talk about it? Like, there's been a nuclear holocaust and we're the last two people on planet Earth. Again, this is where my energy goes at these things is like, I just immediately check out because it crushes. It kills some small spark that still resides inside of me. So James Kimmel shows up, and he's. He's talking to Tom Morello, and then he's done. And then one of these young PR people, they're walking by with a photo of him and a description. It's like, we know who Jimmy Kimmel is. And now it's time for me to elbow out the KCAL9 person. And I'm getting my first big scoop, Andrew, with Jimmy Kimmel of the man show. And I go to the press person, I'm like, hey, we're gonna, we need to talk to Jimmy. And they go, Jimmy's not doing any interviews. Like, okay, so strike one.
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Michelle
So you're pretty far down the line, it sounds like. And the Rage against the Machine guy did talk to him because that's kind of agreed upon now. Jimmy Kimmel, is he stopping? Are you seeing him stop and chat with other press?
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Andrew Walsh
No, he's not chatting with anyone.
- [26:03]
Michelle
Well then why have the. Why have photo op? Your question?
- [26:06]
Andrew Walsh
Photo op, my boy. So he gets done with Tom Morello. He rages against various machines and then he steps one foot over and stands in front of what's called a step and repeat.
- [26:16]
Michelle
Sure.
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Andrew Walsh
Which has a bunch of like, you know, things about Metallica and charities and sponsors. By the way, behind Bagel Bites is on there.
- [26:22]
Michelle
Of course. Yeah.
- [26:23]
Andrew Walsh
And then all of these photographers, I will say this, they. We actually had a. We had a good spot in that. We were the first allegedly. Like, supposedly we were actually the first like moving picture, if you will, like outlet after the photographer. So there's this whole area that's just still photography and that's where the person stands and they go, jimmy. Hey Jimmy. Jimmy, over here. Jimmy. And then like they kind of look and then it's like, you know, and then if he were doing interviews, which he wasn't, we would have been kind of the first people he would have had to talk to. But instead after he poses for his pictures, he just. He also, by the way, was hosting the event and the event was starting in like five minutes.
- [27:02]
Michelle
Yeah.
- [27:03]
Andrew Walsh
So like, it's not. My issue is not with any of the people in this story who weren't doing interviews. It's with this how this whole thing was working. And by the way, the questions are generally so inane. I don't blame people for not wanting to do these interviews. It's this kind of, it's this sort of, you know, like self fulfilling or what's the word I'm looking for. It's basically like the problem is the interviews suck. So people don't want to do the interviews and I don't blame them for that, you know.
- [27:31]
Michelle
And like you say, I mean you have, I believe, a little bit of experience hosting events. Like the idea of like you're thinking about what you're. And again, I'm sure Jimmy Kimmel has, you know, he doesn't have the same jitters that maybe I might have were I to be interviewing Chris Hayes on stage, which I still never got the invite for. But, you know, obviously, by the way.
- [27:51]
Andrew Walsh
They booked Kimmel for that.
- [27:53]
Michelle
Obviously, he's an old hand at these things. But it's still a performance, and you're still a famous person. And anything that you do during this, during this presentation or during this event is still going to be, you know, in the public eye. And you have, you know, so there's. You just know that there's a lot going on in his head right there, and he doesn't want to ask answer questions about Bagel Bites, right?
- [28:12]
Andrew Walsh
And I don't blame him for that at all. But it's like, okay, one of the three people that we wanted to talk to is now, like, off the list. Okay, so then the next guy that I'm thinking, well, we'll talk to this guy. Because I thought, oh, I have a relevant question. And it's like, he's one of the dudes from Pearl Jam. He's actually a guy that I know and actively dislike from playing basketball with its sound mind and body in Fremont. He called so many ticky tacky fells. His name is Jeff Ahmed. He's like the bass player. He used to wear a hat like a pumpkin Camaro.
- [28:39]
Michelle
Kev, if you're listening to this, you were right.
- [28:43]
Andrew Walsh
He theorized that's who I was going to be talking to.
- [28:46]
Michelle
I watched the game with him and Genevieve last night, and I gave him a little preview of our text messages. And I said, I can't wait to hear Luke's story on Monday. And I said, I know that it involves some guy or I think I just showed him your text messages or something. He's like the guy from Pearl Jam. Who's. Who would he not like from Pearl Jam? And he's like, oh, the guy. Yeah, yeah. Jeff Ham, I think I used to play basketball with. He got a lot of ticky, tacky fouls, dude.
- [29:11]
Andrew Walsh
The guy, like, he never. This guy never missed a shot of his own volition in his life. It's all. He was just apparently getting fouled at Iraq constantly. So that's. But here's the thing. I'm like, all right, look, I'm going to ask him because Pearl Jam is a very charitable band as well. They have, like. It's a very active part of their thing, which, again, I admire all this. I think it's a good thing. So I was going to ask him, hey, do you, like. Is there a kind of a friendly rivalry between you and Metallica around this charity stuff. Like, do you guys sort of compare notes or did you pick up ideas from them, or did they pick up ideas from you or whatever? I'm like, there's a. There's a relevant. There's a germane question to ask this guy. So I fucking elbow. Sorry. I elbow out KAL9 again. I get back up to the rope. I step over. By the way, I'm almost tripping every time I have to step over this velvet rope onto the black carpet.
- [30:02]
Michelle
And you are allowed to. So when you.
- [30:04]
Andrew Walsh
I am allowed to.
- [30:04]
Michelle
When you said that you're going to step over the rope, I was thinking, oh, I don't know if you're supposed to do that, but, okay, you're supposed to step over the rope momentarily, then go back.
- [30:11]
Andrew Walsh
I mean, the irony is we're getting as much access as anyone is getting there. We're getting like. We're like the. We're.
- [30:18]
Michelle
That.
- [30:18]
Andrew Walsh
We, like. We were being very privileged in this scenario, in fact, in the sense of I'm allowed to step over the rope. I can do whatever I want. Like, part of the problem is our camera guys are not shooting this. Like the typical local news people shoot it. They set up their tripod and they just camp out. Our guys are being artful. They're running around. They're running and gunning. They're using something called a gimbal. They're using this little thing called osmo, which is like a cool camera that's on a little gimbal that gets really great stuff. They're, like, shooting this very artfully, but what they're not doing is standing right next to me and throwing elbows at the other camera people. They're off, like, getting B roll and things. And so I'm like, this whole thing is just kind of going downhill fast. Because even if I manage to lasso Jeff Ament from Pearl Jam, I don't even know if my camera guy. If the camera guy is going to be where he's like this. He's actually this very handsome Australian guy named Luke, which hurts my heart that I'm not even in the top four. Luke's in this event. I'm number five. If. At best.
- [31:24]
Michelle
Let me ask you this. If you don't have a camera person there to capture this, are you still rolling on some sort of audio device?
- [31:30]
Andrew Walsh
Because you also have a sound guy who's a very cool dude who I really like. And he's there. Dustin is there. Dustin has locked it down. But that's not what I need is. And Luke is like, I'll find you. Like, like it was like. It was like real la la Mojit. You'll know. Yeah, I'll find you. He's like, you know, get. Just. Just step over the rope. I'll find you. I'll find you. That's. You'll know when I'm doing the accent well, and that's not it. So anyway, now it's Jeff Ahmed. The guy never met a ridiculous hat he didn't want to wear. He's got some kind of a tall brimmed like there will be blood situation going on. It's like, what is going on with this guy in hats? I don't understand.
- [32:14]
Michelle
Linda Perry woke up on Friday and said, where are all my hats?
- [32:19]
Andrew Walsh
It's literally from the Linda Perry collection, I promise you. And it's like, so what you can tell, what you can hear in my voice, Andrew, is how much I didn't want to do any of this, and yet I was swallowing hard to do it. And then guess what? I step over the velvet rope. I almost fall down. The guy from Getty looks at me like, you're blocking my shot of Sister Strings, which was the opening band, a sister duo that plays string music. And I go to one of these press people, they're carrying a frickin print out of Jeff Ament. And I go, we need to talk to him. And they go, he's not doing interviews. And I'm just like, something inside of me just dies at that point, you know, just like, what are we doing here, people? What is happening? Okay, so now I'm just wandering around because the next run of people is actually. It's two of the guys from Metallica. It's Kirk Hemet, the guitar player and what's his name, Trujillo, the bass player, by the way. Both super nice dudes, like incredibly cool guys that I had talked to backstage and really enjoyed chatting with them. I got to talk to Lars and James, the main guy. Like, it's like, they're great dudes, but I don't think this is how I want to talk to them about their charity. Like in front of a step and repeat with somebody yelling about Bagel Bites in the background. Like, so they go down and I'm not talking to them. And then Sammy Hagar, the red rocker, Michael Anthony, the bass player from Van Halen, and Joe Satriani, I guess they're in a band together. These guys are in some kind of a band and they show up and now they're talking To Tom Morello. And, and, and I am at this point, I've kind of like given up on this whole thing. Like I'm like, we're not going to get anything useful. The two of the three people I even thought we should talk to are both like not doing interviews. I'm really kind of shutting down now.
- [34:16]
Michelle
Who's the third? I'm sorry, is the third.
- [34:18]
Andrew Walsh
Third is going. Was going to be Jason Momoa. Oh, Cal Drago.
- [34:22]
Michelle
Okay.
- [34:24]
Andrew Walsh
Famously known for his insightful takes on charity operations. I mean there isn't anything about a 501C3. This guy can't tell you.
- [34:32]
Michelle
Why is he circled on your list then?
- [34:36]
Andrew Walsh
Because he's famous? I don't know. I didn't circle him on my list. He was circled on the list that was given to me. You know what I mean?
- [34:42]
Michelle
I don't know if I'm getting ahead of the story here. What was your question going to be for him or will it be for him?
- [34:47]
Andrew Walsh
It wasn't for him. It would have been, but it wasn't. It was going to be some general bullshit like, like, you know, why did you decide to come out to this thing? And also like, what's your awareness of the charitability of the band Metallica? Like that's the only thing you could ask him is like, you know, do you know what these guys do with like Metallica, you know, university and stuff, the Metallica Scholars. And what do you think about that? And my guess is he would say like, I think it's really cool, man. I think it's really cool that they like are charitable. Like he was, he was arguably the most famous non musician that was going to be on this thing. And so it was just like, yeah, you can talk to Jason Momoa.
- [35:26]
Michelle
Okay.
- [35:27]
Andrew Walsh
So I'm now like, I'm not even standing in my little area anymore because I'm once again getting elbowed out by the 24 year old reporter for K Cal 9 who's like head to toe in leather, including like a leather duster. She looks like the man from Snowy River. I don't know what is going on with this her cameraman. You said he doesn't, he, he doesn't give a crap. He actually looked at me at one point. I'm sorry, she's new.
- [35:50]
Michelle
Okay. Okay. So I was a little camera guy.
- [35:52]
Andrew Walsh
Was actually pretty chill.
- [35:53]
Michelle
Okay. He was.
- [35:53]
Andrew Walsh
Because what he realized was this, this young person, again, good for them. They were excited about this job. They were excited to be doing their thing. They were pumped about talking to A philanthropist slash fashion designer who's roughly 40 years younger than her husband, who's in Metallica. And so she was, you know, she was, she was really, she was really posting up in the paint there. And I was. Didn't feel like fighting her for it.
- [36:17]
Michelle
And in her defense, she is going up against somebody who has so far referred to them as moving pictures and dropped a the man from Snowy river reference, which I don't even think I'm old enough to follow.
- [36:29]
Andrew Walsh
It was big in the Christian community. It was like the one movie that didn't have anything fresh in it. It wasn't explicitly a Christian movie, but it was Christian coded.
- [36:39]
Michelle
Okay. All right.
- [36:40]
Andrew Walsh
In the 80s, if you grew up like fundamentalist, like I did, you were for some reason allowed to watch the man from Snowy River.
- [36:47]
Michelle
And just to be clear, it was a talkie, right?
- [36:49]
Andrew Walsh
It was a talkie. It was one of those. It was a Harold Lloyd, he hangs from a clock. It's really, it's an impressive stunt. He did all his own stunts. So. By the way, this story does not have a great power out. What happens is I am now milling about, not even. I'm not even in the area I'm supposed to be. I'm just like walking around the parking lot of Sofi because I'm just like, I'm so over this. I'm so mad about it.
- [37:14]
Michelle
You're like, I used to place bets here back in the day, right. Or do I have the wrong Andrew?
- [37:18]
Andrew Walsh
I pro. Like, nobody was safe from me telling them about what used to happen there. Nobody.
- [37:24]
Michelle
What was it?
- [37:25]
Andrew Walsh
That's what I should have talked to Jason Momoa about. Hey, do you know this used to be called Hollywood Park Casino and I used to bet on the horses here.
- [37:31]
Michelle
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that's one of the most famous racetracks, like, right. Ever historic race tracks before they tore it down kind of.
- [37:39]
Andrew Walsh
I mean, I would say Santa Anita is actually a little bit more famous out near Pasadena. But it definitely, I mean, it was a vibe back in the day, Hollywood Park Casino. And I loved it. I loved it so very much. Did we ever go there together?
- [37:53]
Michelle
No. No, I've never been. And maybe it's somewhat skewed, but I'm pretty sure that's like where a lot of Bukowski stories happen, possibly.
- [38:00]
Andrew Walsh
Oh, I could totally see that. Okay. So I'm. I'm just kind of wandering now and all of a sudden it becomes clear that Sammy Hagar, the Red Rocker, is the one person he is happy to do interviews. He does. He's he and his crew have talked to Tom Morello and now they're walking the red carpet and they're. And they are actually stopping to chat.
- [38:24]
Michelle
With people Kevin mentioned. He said, you know, he's got a reputation for being, like, a really nice guy. And I'm like, yeah, somehow I intuited that or had heard that somewhere as well.
- [38:32]
Andrew Walsh
Yes. And what happened was the producer on the story, who was also getting B roll, sees that Sammy Hagar is doing interviews and does this thing involuntarily of like, going, like. Gesturing kind of very sternly, go talk to him. Not like, hey, do you want to talk to him? Or do you think we should talk to Sammy Hagar? It's like, go do it. And as you might imagine, with all of the sort of preamble to this, I'm not in the mood to be ordered to go talk to Sammy Hagar, who, again, by all accounts, wonderful human being, really solid dude, does a lot of good in the world. But at that point, I just. I hand. Because I'm carrying a wand microphone to, like, interview these people. By the way, I have not interviewed one person that I am O for Everything at this event.
- [39:29]
Michelle
O for Everything could be a show title. Boy, I really had everything wrong about this. I had the camera person being really aggressive. I had you wearing a lavalier mic, you know, you.
- [39:38]
Andrew Walsh
I did. I had a lav.
- [39:39]
Michelle
And you did have a lav. Oh, thank God.
- [39:41]
Andrew Walsh
And we were booming it, Andrew. I had a LAV handheld, and Dustin was booming. And I mean, there. They spare no expense for these things.
- [39:48]
Michelle
Great.
- [39:49]
Andrew Walsh
I. I hand our very nice sound guy Dustin. I hand him my handheld micro and I take the lav off and I take. Because, by the way, this is his equipment. He's a freelancer, and they have to buy all this stuff. So I'm not about to walk out with this stuff. I hand him the stuff. And I think maybe the saving grace of this is that it was very loud there. So I hope nobody heard me say, I yelled at the producer. Do your fucking job. Don't put me in situations where there's no upside. And it's very humiliating. And I walked into the night in Englewood.
- [40:23]
Michelle
You said that to the person who was giving you. I yelled at the stern, like, point and go get that.
- [40:29]
Andrew Walsh
Yelled that. And again, I hope. My hope is that it was. It was. It was lost in the din of the black carpet.
- [40:35]
Michelle
You don't know if it was or not. You haven't had any communications with this person since.
- [40:39]
Andrew Walsh
Well, what I did was I walked down to Century Boulevard. I called a lift. I. In the lift, I texted everyone, the crew and the producer, and I said, I can actually just probably find the exact text.
- [40:55]
Michelle
But while you're looking for that, let me ask you some more questions. So when you say you texted everybody, like the crew, you're talking about at least one sound person. You mentioned a couple of camera people.
- [41:05]
Andrew Walsh
Including handsome one camera guy, one sound guy, and one producer.
- [41:08]
Michelle
So you texted three people. Okay. I just wanted to get kind of a sense of how many people you felt like might have been affected by this.
- [41:15]
Andrew Walsh
My. I mean, I regretted the whole thing even. You know, I still felt. And I still feel a certain righteous indignation about how poorly thought through this was, but I felt bad that I. That I was unprofessional. And I. But I felt really bad for the crew because those guys work so hard. Like, they are there hours before I show up, and the lighting, and they have to break all this gear down, and, like, they're just there trying to do their job, and it doesn't help them when the. The guy who the cameras pointed at is storming off because no one would talk about bagel bites with him. So I can't find the text right now. But basically my text was, I'm sorry for that meltdown. This was really not my finest hour. I said, there's something about the inanity of that black carpet slash red carpet that really got on top of me, but still, that was unprofessional. And I said something like, I do think we got some really good stuff earlier today, which is true, and I really appreciate your hard work on this. That's what I said. And then the response from the producer was a picture of him interviewing Jason Momoa.
- [42:16]
Michelle
Okay. Okay. So the person that you sort of dress down if they heard you did respond to the text, and in kind of a funny way.
- [42:25]
Andrew Walsh
Well, I don't know if it was funny. It was. It was a photo. And then I responded, if me being a baby created this photo op, I regret nothing. And no response. So I don't know where things are with that one.
- [42:37]
Michelle
The.
- [42:37]
Andrew Walsh
I think the cute Luke, the Australian camera guy, sent some kind of funny message back. So I think I'm good with the crew. I don't know where I stand with the producer. I know where I stand on. I would give red carpets about a medium.
- [42:49]
Michelle
Yeah. How about black carpets? Rock and roll.
- [42:51]
Andrew Walsh
I give them even less.
- [42:54]
Michelle
So I understand that you might be in a position where you don't Want to drill down on some of these questions I have. I'll allow you to evade them as necessary. But what is your relationship with this producer up until this point? This is somebody you've worked with a lot or a little someday?
- [43:10]
Andrew Walsh
I work with a lot.
- [43:11]
Michelle
Somebody you work with a lot. And generally speaking, have had smooth experiences with.
- [43:17]
Andrew Walsh
Well, I've never walked off a chute, clearly.
- [43:19]
Michelle
Right? Yes.
- [43:20]
Andrew Walsh
This is not, I don't think, we don't have an overly tense relationship, generally speaking.
- [43:24]
Michelle
Yes. And this is where, again, I understand you might not want to dig into details, but I feel like on this show you have sort of talked about some people who, you know, maybe will share your vision going into a shoot like this. Maybe more than others or whatever. Like you've never bad mouthed anybody, obviously. But I'm just wondering, is this somebody who, when you go onto a shoot with them, you're maybe a little bit more on guard or it's not somebody that you can like just totally trust as much as maybe some other folks?
- [43:52]
Andrew Walsh
No, that's not the dynamic at all. Like, this person is very, very professional, very thorough, very hardworking, like really hard working. We always get, we always get good stuff at the end of the day because this is a person who really, really dots their eyes and crosses their T's. And, and again, this was a, this was just this thing where, I mean, the people that, you know, the PR people that were setting this up were, they'd, you know, they were just listing. Here are the things you can talk to these people. There's going to be a red carpet. You can be on the red carpet. You know, like, why wouldn't you, you know, why wouldn't we go stand on the red carpet and try to get some stuff like it all kind of theoretically made sense. But what I should have done is identified it as something I didn't want to do and just said like, I'm sorry, I know this is kind of weird, but I just don't like doing that stuff. It makes me feel a very sad feeling when I do it. And I didn't do that. I didn't get in front of it. And so then, and this was where my, this is where I really failed everyone at that point when once we were doing it, I should have just like sucked it up and just kind of, you know, dealt with it. But the other problem was, again, I'm not trying to blame anyone else, but nobody in, nobody associated with our project does that kind of stuff. In other words, like I said, we didn't have like a tripod that was kind of actually like you need it physically to block the other people, you know, like, we didn't, we didn't establish a beachhead. We didn't, like, because none of us do this. We're like, honestly, we all have cooler jobs than this. You know, we could. We get to go to James Hetfield's house in Vail. That's what we do. We don't stand around talking about bagel bites. So it was because at one point I went to the camera guy go, like, what do I even do here? And he goes, I don't know. I was like, oh, cool. Well, I guess nobody's in charge of this, you know, because that's. We don't. This is not our, you know, five day a week thing is being involved in these kinds of, you know, events.
- [45:39]
Michelle
So I have one wish for this holiday season and that is for this story to come out. And it is primarily an interview with Jason Momoa where we never see the interviewer, but it is just like the centerpiece, the absolute centerpiece of the feature.
- [45:57]
Andrew Walsh
It could happen, Andrew. I don't know what I have. I don't know what Jason Momoa said. I've only seen a still photograph of.
- [46:04]
Michelle
It and I want it to break so much news. I want it to be so. I want it to be so insightful. I want it to be like the headline of Momoa opens up about it.
- [46:15]
Andrew Walsh
Pushes Luigi Mangione off of the front page and it's like, like, you know, Jason Momoa discuss. Finally discusses what he likes to eat when he's jamming out.
- [46:33]
Michelle
He finally reveals the secret charity he's been running for 20 years.
- [46:38]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, so that was. Yeah, that was my Friday. And I don't. Yeah, I don't. There's not a particularly interesting power out to it. And also, yeah, I don't really know. I don't know. I don't know where everything stands, but.
- [46:50]
Michelle
But yeah, that's what I'm obviously most curious about is the next time because, I mean, you're still working with this exact crew. I was sort of in the back of my head thinking, well, wonder what happens the next time you guys are all teamed up together. But no, you're remaining teamed up together. You haven't even gotten to the big part of the job yet, which is going to Metallica.
- [47:06]
Andrew Walsh
Well, they're probably not. They're based in la, so they probably won't be the people in Colorado. So there'll be some local crew.
- [47:13]
Michelle
Okay.
- [47:14]
Andrew Walsh
That we get. But I know the. I mean, I work with these guys all the time.
- [47:17]
Michelle
Yeah.
- [47:17]
Andrew Walsh
You know, when I'm down there. So I know these dudes. Again, that's why I felt the need to apologize. I mean, I. I felt the need to apologize because it was unprofessional. And whatever my little fragile ego tells me to do and whatever, you know, whatever I didn't like about the scenario, there was a way for me to handle it, and I didn't handle it in the right way. I just let my embarrassment and insecurity just flare up in a way that I just saw red. I'm sorry, I just saw black.
- [47:45]
Michelle
All right, listen, do you. Such a good place to go to a break. Maybe we should do that. I was going to say, so you sent me, and this was Friday that this all happened. I think the text message came into me around because I was looking at.
- [47:57]
Andrew Walsh
It yesterday in the lift.
- [47:58]
Michelle
6:30Pm Is, I think, when. When this. When you texted me about that. And so I've had a few days to think about it. And like I said, I was telling Camaro, Kevin Veeves. I was like, I don't really know what went down, but I received, like, photo. And I showed the photo that you had sent me of some of these rockers, only one of whom I recognized. And. And then Kevin explained who the other ones were, although I think there was even one that eluded his expertise on the matter.
- [48:23]
Andrew Walsh
Other blue man.
- [48:25]
Michelle
You know, I didn't quite get that joke. You think that. So I thought the guys.
- [48:28]
Andrew Walsh
There's two guys. Joe Satriani, another guy. Look like if you hosed down members of the.
- [48:33]
Michelle
Because they're tall and bald. Okay, yeah, Tall and bald.
- [48:35]
Andrew Walsh
And they have no noticeable hair anywhere on their bodies.
- [48:38]
Michelle
Okay, good, good. I thought you were talking about them, but the way it was worded, I thought you talked about the guys in the middle. I'm like, the gu in the middle. Don't look blue. Okay. Anyway, all of that is to say I was not familiar with who those people were, but I don't know. Are you interested in hearing what I thought went down? Yes. How I pictured it, which doesn't make any sense now that. Now that we talk about it. But you had sent me, like, just saying, hey, I stormed off the set. I'll tell you about a Monday, I'm embarrassed, blah, blah. And then you sent me, you told me that you kind of texted the producers and you were waiting to hear back or something. And you had sent me a photo of these rock and roll dudes. Which you and I kind of joked about a little bit via text. Because you and I are not like big rock and roll men. Like, the idea of the aesthetic of rock and roll is not something that you and I lean into. Right? People are surprised to hear that when they meet me. They're like, wow, I thought you were going to be way more rock and roll.
- [49:30]
Andrew Walsh
I'm not.
- [49:31]
Michelle
I'm not. So as I told you, I knew it was a red black carpet event, but I was picturing you for some reason, with your own little cutout of this area. Like, you know, like I was saying, like, if you can picture the ball dropping on New Year's Eve, I'm pict on one of those directors chairs with like two directors chairs next to you. And you're interviewing one guy from Metallica. And for some reason Sammy Hagar is there as well. And then these other rockers are around. And for some reason in my head, I was just picturing them being like, yeah, rock and roll. And kind of teasing you in ways that you were not down with, sort of. But they were like, really into the event. And like, I mean, obviously what I'm describing here is like, that would be amazing access compared to what you just described. And your story obviously makes so much more sense because it's rooted in real life. But for some reason, I was like, what happened? Did these.
- [50:22]
Andrew Walsh
You thought I was getting cyber bullied? You thought I was getting rock and rolled to within an inch of my life by these guys?
- [50:27]
Michelle
I thought these rock and rollers were having a really good time. And maybe gently teasing you as a non rock and roller and pointing out.
- [50:34]
Andrew Walsh
Just how un rock and roller.
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Michelle
Just like, maybe, I don't know, just. I don't know. I was literally like, almost. This is one of those things. I use this expression a lot or this kind of analogy a lot. I don't know if it really pays out, but for me, growing up, when I would see a person's face who I heard on the radio for years, and then I would see them in real life, I'd be like, how in the world is that the face of the person I listen to on the Buzzard Morning Zoo or whatever it is. But then if I asked myself, well, how did you picture that person? I never had, like, I can't say. Like, oh, well, I didn't have a very clear vision of this person. I couldn't tell you eye color or hair color or whatever. But it wasn't this. It wasn't whatever I'm looking at right now. I had some idea, but I don't know what it was. And so in my head this weekend, I don't know what it was, but I was almost picturing, like, oh, a friendly Wet Willy vibe. Not like people. Not like Sammy Hagar was literally entering your ear with his fingers, but like kind of a. Kind of a teasing thing and that you were like, we're done here. And you remove your lavalier microphone and walk off this little set that I had imagined for you. So that's why.
- [51:41]
Andrew Walsh
So much better and worse. That would be both so much better and so much worse. Like, I would say, wait, the good news is, other than the people I was working with and now, I guess the tens of listeners and you, nobody knew this was going down the way it was going down because it was. Everybody was just busy bagel biting. Yeah. So it would have been. It would have been professionally way worse for me if this would have actually unfolded on the stage, so to speak, with people like Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony from Van Halen and Joe Satriani and Other bald guy.
- [52:14]
Michelle
Yes. Know who other bald guy is?
- [52:18]
Andrew Walsh
We. And we may never know.
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Michelle
And I'm assuming we cannot use that as a show pic or.
- [52:23]
Andrew Walsh
I mean, I. Sue me. Sue me for what?
- [52:25]
Michelle
Okay, great. Okay, good.
- [52:27]
Andrew Walsh
I mean, I have. Listen, I was a licensed. I was a. I was a invited media member up until I wasn't.
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Michelle
Yeah, right.
- [52:35]
Andrew Walsh
I think I'm allowed to take a picture with my phone.
- [52:37]
Michelle
Give CBS credit for this. Okay. Gotcha.
- [52:40]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, exactly. But, yeah, no, that. So. So you're your kind of. I don't want to say fantasy, but you're filling in the blanks of how it went down again. Would have been much more interesting and much more sort of cinematic. But that was not what happened. What happened was I just had a. I threw a temper tantrum that nobody, except for the people I was immediately working with, were aware was happening, and then I stormed off.
- [53:06]
Michelle
Well, you know, it sounds like you have enough of a relationship with all of these people, including the producer, that, you know, it's not like this is the first or second time you've worked with them. And the first time was a little bit rocky or something, which is why I kind of brought that up.
- [53:20]
Andrew Walsh
It sounds like this will be wondering. And you know this, too, from, like, when you have a moment of, like, very dramatic behavior. It's so weird how, like. So this thing happens and it's this big rush of, like, probably, like, adrenaline and stuff, and then you do this thing or you yell this Thing, or you say this thing or whatever. And then you get like a block away from the YouTube theater and now all that stuff starts to leave your body and you're just like, what did I just do?
- [53:49]
Michelle
Yeah.
- [53:50]
Andrew Walsh
And. And as I was walking out to Century Boulevard to catch a lift, I was like, oh, that was the other thing that was weird. They were like, well, you know who else you could talk to is Shepherd Fairy. You know, like the Obey guy. Remember that dude?
- [54:01]
Michelle
Yeah, of course. The artist.
- [54:02]
Andrew Walsh
And I was like, okay, well, ask Shepard Fairey, I guess, about Metallica's charity whatever. As I was now as I've demicrophoned myself and I'm storming out and I'm just walking away. I get out almost to the street and there's like a security guard who's like checking people's passes in their cars. And Shepard Fairey rolls up in a Tesla and it's like, where do we park? And I was like, well, I guess we weren't going to talk to Shepard Fairey. My dude isn't even parked yet. He's still in his Tesla.
- [54:28]
Michelle
Right?
- [54:29]
Andrew Walsh
I don't know why that mattered, but I was like, everything about this has been mishandled. So as I'm, as I'm walking towards the main road and as like now the adrenaline is leaving, it's being replaced with self doubt, which was always there just underneath some adrenaline for a while. And now fully exposed, I was like, I wonder, and I wonder what the most petulant behavior from a CBS Sunday Morning correspondent has ever been. And was that on the, like, what I just did? Is that like wildly out of the norm? Has that ever happened? Is any other correspondent ever done that? And I told myself, yes, because that's what I hope is the case. You.
- [55:10]
Michelle
What I'm about to say is not a nice thing for a friend to say in this moment. No. And this is not like me. It's not like me weighing in or something. It's just me remembering something that you've worried about before, which I really, honestly, this hesitation is legit, but I'll move forward. And I know you know, I ask it with love. Yes. But are you also thinking about some of the anecdotes that you've heard that you found sort of confusing, You've told me before. Or that you heard a rumor that you're somewhat difficult among some people?
- [55:40]
Andrew Walsh
Well, I heard that from Rich, my.
- [55:42]
Michelle
Neighbor, who doesn't even exist. Right, exactly.
- [55:44]
Andrew Walsh
And also doesn't even. I don't know where he got that. I Don't.
- [55:47]
Michelle
And you've never had any other inclination other than him saying that because he thinks that he knows somebody who knows you or something from the set or something.
- [55:54]
Andrew Walsh
It was the most bizarre thing other than the time he found me passed out on my floor. It was the most bizarre interaction I ever had with Rich, which was we had just started knowing each other because they were our neighbors. And I said, oh, yeah, I work for the show CBS Sunday Morning. And like, maybe it was the next time we hung out. He said something like, oh, yeah, my cousin works there. And I was like, who's your cousin? And he couldn't. Like, the per. I'd never heard of the person, and I don't think the person worked at Sunday Morning, or I would have known them and was like, yeah, I heard that. You can be. I. I forget. I mean, I had said something that had been. Had a lead into this. It wasn't like he came over to my house and knocked on my door, just said, said, by the way, I've heard you're very difficult over there. But he said something, I think maybe I was saying to him, I don't know what, something about work. And he said, yeah, yeah, you know, my cousin works there. And I heard that you really, like, stand up for yourself, or you're kind of like, you know, you can. You definitely don't take any crap or you're a little difficult or whatever. And I. Even in that moment, I remember thinking, there's no way that you heard that about me. And, you know, if that person worked at Livewire, sure, absolutely. Or, you know, like, there's just. I don't have a rep. I mean, I didn't before Friday have a rep there of any kind. I'm barely on anyone's radar.
- [57:00]
Michelle
Okay. So this. I guess if I. If I was going to turn my memory of that story into a question, it was going to be like, does this sort of play into those fears you have? But it sounds like there's no other. Like you haven't had other moments where you're working on an edit or this or that or that, and it's been sort of in the back of your head. Am I the difficult one? It sounds like we've sort of laid that a bit to rest.
- [57:19]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. And in fact, like, I feel like the producers that I work with often say, like, oh, we really like working with you, because I will literally do anything except this, I guess, in the words of Meatloaf, I guess. But I won't do that. But generally speaking, I'M up for anything. I'll go swim in San Francisco Bay shirtless on tv. I'll, I'll like, you know, I'm, I'm really, I'm. I'm pretty game for most stuff. This is literally my only bright line that I now know I will not cross. And so. And you know, we do have correspondents who have been doing it for much longer, like, for instance. And I know this isn't actually related, but I've had some producers that I haven't worked with a lot in the past, and we're doing a story and they say, oh, are you one of the correspondents who is guaranteed flies first class? I'm like, no, I didn't even know that was a thing. So that's. There's a level of, like, handling that goes on with some folks where it's like, in their contract they have to fly first class and stuff like that. That I'm not that person. Like, I'm. I will show up anywhere. I will talk to anyone, generally speaking, you know, So I actually think that I am. I'm usually like a pretty easy correspondent to work with because I'm not, you know, like I said, I don't have a lot of, like, hard no's. In fact, like, I feel like the first. One of the first stories I ever did, it was doing this story about adult summer camps. Like, people going to, like, you know, Boy Scout camp, but as grown up. And part of the reason it went to me was because there was a different correspondent who thought it was going to be muddy at the camp. And they didn't want to. And, you know, they didn't want to leave New York and they didn't want to go where it was muddy. And I was like, I'll happily go to, you know, the Wisconsin Dells area.
- [58:59]
Michelle
I have galoshes.
- [59:00]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, have galoshes. Will correspond. So I think, I think generally I am. I'm a pretty good hang on these things. This was, this was an outlier for me. But, yeah, I mean, it remains to be seen. I don't think I'm in any trouble with the bosses over it. But I also don't know if, like, you know, I don't know. I don't know how things will play out.
- [59:23]
Michelle
Well, you're probably not gonna do any more black carpet events.
- [59:26]
Andrew Walsh
That was my one, and it was my first and last black carpet event. I still do want to jam out with bagel bites, of course.
- [59:36]
Michelle
Thank you for being a tale, you.
- [59:41]
Andrew Walsh
Know, what gives me solace on this Monday morning, Andrew, when I may have lost my job at CBS Television.
- [59:48]
Michelle
Is it. Does it. Is it bagel bite related?
- [59:52]
Andrew Walsh
It isn't.
- [59:53]
Michelle
Oh, then, no, I don't. I have no idea.
- [59:55]
Andrew Walsh
Well, in a roundabout way.
- [59:56]
Michelle
Okay.
- [59:57]
Andrew Walsh
See, I'm still able to purchase Bagel Bites for jamming out purposes because this. Andrew, what's happening right now, you and I talking to each other. This is our job, and it is our job. And they can't fire me from this job, Andrew. Only I can fire me from this job. And I am. I have put myself on a performance improvement plan, by the way, Let me.
- [60:15]
Michelle
Talk to John about that, because it was my understanding when we drew up sort of our operating procedure, that that is not. It's. Things don't operate exactly the way you just described. But I could be wrong about that. I'll take a look at the contract.
- [60:25]
Andrew Walsh
As long as you guys don't ever make me go to another black carpet. I think we're gonna be okay.
- [60:30]
Michelle
We'll see.
- [60:30]
Andrew Walsh
I am so grateful for this to be my job and to be your job and to be John's job because of these donors, these generous people like Kathleen Vandera of Seattle, Washington.
- [60:40]
Michelle
Thank you, Kathleen. Appreciate that.
- [60:43]
Andrew Walsh
What about Steve Pruitt of Ferndale, Michigan?
- [60:46]
Michelle
Ferndale, Michigan sounds like such a. I'll bet you they have an amazing Fourth of July parade right down Main Street.
- [60:52]
Andrew Walsh
100%. It's just Norman Rockwell out the wazoo.
- [60:58]
Michelle
It's Norman Rockwell out the Hoo. Ha. Thank you, Steve. Sorry that that had to be attached to.
- [61:03]
Andrew Walsh
Every kid is given a slingshot to put in their back pocket while they salute the flag next to an old veteran.
- [61:10]
Michelle
That's right.
- [61:11]
Andrew Walsh
Oh, what about Kevin Johnson in Cordova, Alaska? Cordova, Alaska.
- [61:17]
Michelle
Wow. Probably.
- [61:18]
Andrew Walsh
Also, I've heard about the mosquitoes in Cordova, Alaska, Andrew.
- [61:22]
Michelle
They're huge.
- [61:23]
Andrew Walsh
That's what I've heard.
- [61:24]
Michelle
Yeah.
- [61:25]
Andrew Walsh
When I was growing up, my buddy Joe Dahlin, he would go to Cordova, Alaska, in the summertime. I think his, like, his grandparents lived there or had a place up there. And he came back, I was like, how was Cordova, Alaska? He said it was fun. He goes, the mosquitoes are enormous.
- [61:41]
Michelle
Really?
- [61:42]
Andrew Walsh
And that's always lodged in my brain. The mosquitoes are matched only by Kevin Johnson's generosity, Andrew, in just sheer enormity.
- [61:51]
Michelle
Yeah, the enormity of the generosity.
- [61:55]
Andrew Walsh
I realized that I was saying 80% of what Werner Herzog said in that piece of tape I played at the beginning. The sheer enormity of Kevin Johnson's Charitability.
- [62:06]
Michelle
Wow.
- [62:07]
Andrew Walsh
It turned into Christopher Walken.
- [62:08]
Michelle
It did a little bit there at the end, but. But that's not a bad thing.
- [62:11]
Andrew Walsh
That's never a good. Unless you're trying to do Christopher Walken this.
- [62:14]
Michelle
Watch. I don't do a walk.
- [62:17]
Andrew Walsh
Oh, oh, right From Pulp Fiction.
- [62:19]
Michelle
That was rough. That was rough. That. That didn't happen.
- [62:21]
Andrew Walsh
We'll let it all that up here. Hold on. Here's my Christopher Walken impression.
- [62:29]
Michelle
Oh, you're walking, aren't you?
- [62:30]
Andrew Walsh
No, no, that's him dancing in the. Oh, like. Is it, like Weapon of Choice?
- [62:36]
Michelle
Yes, Weapon of Choice. God, it was right on the top.
- [62:38]
Andrew Walsh
Slim Song, directed by Spike Jones. And it's just. It's just what's his name? Dancing around.
- [62:43]
Michelle
He. Man, I. I really. I thought I could get to Weapon of Choice because I don't know why that. Why that name kind of stands out to me, but that is. That is an iconic, iconic video. Spike.
- [62:56]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
- [62:56]
Michelle
Really? Jones, right? Did you say that?
- [62:58]
Andrew Walsh
Yes, yes. Directed by Spike Jones. He also did the video for Praise you, which is another Fat Boy Slim song. And that's the video where Spike Jonze is leading, like, a dance troupe.
- [63:08]
Michelle
Yes. On the streets right outside the theater there in la. Right.
- [63:11]
Andrew Walsh
So incredibly good.
- [63:13]
Michelle
Or maybe it's. Maybe if that's New York or. I can't remember.
- [63:15]
Andrew Walsh
I don't know where it is. I didn't even know that was Spike Jones at the time.
- [63:18]
Michelle
Yes, yes, yes, yes. And he's like norm core before anybody else was normcore, Right? Yes.
- [63:22]
Andrew Walsh
It's so good. So incredibly good. Almost as good as seeing the name Tyler Nee of Longview, Washington. Andrew. Call me Sarah Palin, because I can see Tyler's house from my front porch.
- [63:36]
Michelle
Oh, that's right. You're in the Longview district.
- [63:37]
Andrew Walsh
I'm in the greater Longview district.
- [63:39]
Michelle
Right, Nice. Well, thank you, Tyler.
- [63:41]
Andrew Walsh
Tyler.
- [63:41]
Michelle
Appreciate it.
- [63:42]
Andrew Walsh
Nice to. Nice to see a fellow Cowlitz county person on the list. And then Rhoda Ashley is just down Interstate 5 in Portland, Oregon, another city that I can. Can I see Portland from here? Probably not. I can see Scapoose. I can see Scapoose, Oregon, from here.
- [63:59]
Michelle
Andrew.
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Andrew Walsh
If I look south, but I don't think they can see all the way down to where Rhoda is. Thanks, Rhoda. And then Margot Feather is in Redmond, Washington. Probably almost see Redmond.
- [64:10]
Michelle
If I got on my route, if I got on a ladder on my roof and got lasik, I could probably see Redmond.
- [64:18]
Andrew Walsh
Okay. You know, speaking of your yard, we haven't even talked.
- [64:22]
Michelle
Oh yeah, about the Yoda.
- [64:24]
Andrew Walsh
About this Yoda. I'm sorry, Grogu. I'm not even. That's a grogu, by the way.
- [64:31]
Michelle
That's a grogu.
- [64:34]
Andrew Walsh
Let me just say thank you to our donors. We absolutely could not do this without you. Thank you so, so much. And I need this job today more than ever. Maybe the last, the last of my three jobs that exists here.
- [64:48]
Luke Burbank
I go once again with the email every week.
- [64:50]
Michelle
I hope that it's from a female.
- [64:52]
Luke Burbank
Oh man.
- [64:54]
Michelle
It's not from a female.
- [64:56]
Andrew Walsh
Let's just, let's just use this time together, Andrew, to update everyone on that situation with that, with that Yoda in your yard. That went so. That did not go where I was expecting it to go.
- [65:10]
Michelle
So on Friday's show, before we started talking to our friend Cassie, I opened the show by saying, hey Luke, I just brought the garbage bins from outside and I looked over my fence and I saw that there's this toy Yoda, apparently a toy Yoda or what we call the baby Yoda. Maybe it was unclear the child laying face down in my backyard. But I didn't want to go across the yard and examine it because I was wearing my indoor shoes and it's kind of a wet, muddy day and so I just left it there. But I took a photo of it from the fence and if people want a visual of this, go to tbtail.net and just look at the show picture from Friday's show. It's like a little like fluorescent green Yoda looking doll you noted on it. It did seem kind of buff.
- [65:51]
Andrew Walsh
It honestly had kind of a, kind of a big dumper.
- [65:54]
Michelle
It was looking and it was face down like a crime scene sort of. And also feet facing me. So if you can picture this photo, you can see the bottom of its feet. You pointed out that it had three fingers on each hand. And we looked it up. Yoda and I guess baby Yoda had three fingers on each hand. So we said, yeah, that's probably some toy Yoda that somebody threw in our yard. And like, I was thinking, could it have been a dog toy that sort of got out of hand or something, you know, like, or did somebody. And listen, we live in a neighborhood where it's not completely uncommon. I mentioned somebody threw like a mattress up against our fence as if somebody was going to take a free mattress out of the rain at some point. So like, you know people, there's detritus around the neighborhood. You know, one time I found A lighter in our driveway. Not a big deal. Throw it away. So anyway, we. I saw this toy, a parent toy, laying face down, almost like a crime scene. I don't know if I mentioned this to you on the show. What I wanted was I kind of spray paint around it like a body, you know, like a crime scene. But I didn't do that, and I just left it there, and I came in here and I did what I do best, which is ruin this podcast. And so anyway, I left it out there, and then that was Friday, right? Yeah, so whatever. On Saturday, I think I was sleeping in or something. I heard a door close, and Genevieve like, andrew, Andrew. I'm like, what is it? She's like, it was. I'm trying to think what she said. That. That Yoda was a bong, and it's broken all over our yard. I'm like, what? Huh? I'm, like, kind of groggy. And then she.
- [67:22]
Andrew Walsh
You're kind of grogu.
- [67:23]
Michelle
I'm kind of grogu. She takes a photo. And so it was unclear. So it was like this plastic toy that does look like. Just like a plastic toy. And it's like an off. It's like a. I think a knockoff Yoda, baby. Yoda Scompson, Bart Scomson. So, like, yeah, it's a knockoff Yoda, because obviously you don't have Lucasfilm selling official Star wars books or whatever. Wouldn't that be amazing if it was a Where's my Luke Skywalker bong? Right. But anyway, it looks like when this.
- [67:56]
Andrew Walsh
Lars Ulrich was wearing an Industrial light and magic hat when I met him the other day, which I thought was an interesting poll.
- [68:01]
Michelle
Oh, is that the.
- [68:02]
Andrew Walsh
That's Lucas's special effects company.
- [68:04]
Michelle
Okay. Gotcha. Yeah, I mean, I think so. Now that you say that, I can piece that together. I wouldn't have known it without that context. But anyway, so when you flip this toy over, you see that the belly was exposed. So it's like a full green toy, but the belly was exposed. And that was probably like the round part of the bong where the water would sit or something. And then at the top of this. Oh, and probably where you put the little bowl for the weed and then. And the top, which is still kind of intact, coming straight out the top of Yoda's head. It's really amazing if you think about it, Luke. The way I saw this thing. I saw this thing randomly from the one angle where I wouldn't have seen any evidence of this being any. The fact that it was feet, like face down and feet towards me meant that I didn't see any of the glass works that was associated with this. But right at the top of the damn head of this thing is like the glass part of the bong where you would presumably put your mouth. But it raises. So Genevieve takes a photo of this thing and sends it to the entire text chain that says Yoda Koda. It was for drugs. And we're going on, we're talking about how this Yoda bong thing was found in our yard with a bunch of broken glass around it or whatever. And then my favorite comment ever on the text thread of the world text thread is just one comment from Khmer Kev that says, that's grogu, period. Like no other comment on the sort of grossness or grittiness of this discovery. I will say it does raise some questions. So we have like a little. In our tiny little backyard area, we have like one of those outdoor sort of swinging little benches, you know, just a cheapo thing that came with the house. In fact, I think I was going to take it to the dump, but Genevieve sort of likes having it out there.
- [69:43]
Andrew Walsh
It's like a glider.
- [69:43]
Michelle
Yeah, it's kind of like a glider. Yeah. I mean, it's literally a glider, but a very light one that I can sort of move around the yard when I'm mowing. Right. It's not like one. We had a really heavy glider in our basement when we were growing up at the kind, you know, like that you put on your davenport or what have you. But anyway, so. So that thing is right now, this two seat little glider bench thing is sort of in the corner of our yard. And Genevieve was not sure if I had put it there or. I mean, her thing was like, are people, like, smoking bongs in our backyard while we're sleeping?
- [70:14]
Andrew Walsh
I mean, the weirdest. This is the weirdest plot twist for this particular toy that it was a bong and someone threw it in your yard.
- [70:24]
Michelle
Here's my thing. I don't. First of all, I. Yeah, like, I don't like having broken glass in my yard. Obviously. I don't think people are back there, like, doing drugs in our yard.
- [70:35]
Andrew Walsh
And honestly, if it's gonna be a drug, you hoping it's weed.
- [70:38]
Michelle
Yeah. I mean, again, like, the mellowest of.
- [70:41]
Andrew Walsh
The things that could be doing.
- [70:42]
Michelle
That's what I'm thinking is like, I'm like, well, I got up and like when I was in high school and college, I got up to some weird shit, like smoking Weed in really weird places or what have you. Just, like, there's sort of the thrill of, like, getting away with it or what have you. And so, you know, if it was true that a couple of ne'er Do Wells were smoking a bong in our backyard. But here's what I really think happened is this bong was probably already somewhat broken, potentially just stolen, and with a bag, and people didn't want it. But I feel like if you're somebody who's stealing a bag and you find this thing, you're probably also keeping it. Like, I have found. I have found, like, once I found, like, an empty backpack outside of our house. Very clearly, if somebody. The only thing in there. The only thing in there was somebody's Costco membership card, and everything else had just been, like, kind of taken out. And so, you know, there's a lot of theft. I'm sure that that bag that I'm thinking of from a year or two ago was probably stolen from somewhere, rooted out. They left the stuff they didn't want in it. So, you know, that could have been the case with Grogu. That's Grogu. That's Grogu. Or.
- [71:45]
Andrew Walsh
I also, by the way, love that. That's such a. For a person whose nickname is Camaro Kev, it's fascinating how into the lore of the Mandador and also someone who calls it the Mandadorian. He's actually really into the lore. Like, he's really deeply knowledgeable about it, which is so funny that he also, like, just. It's. You know, it doesn't seem to. It doesn't sort of. In a way, it doesn't seem to, like, click with the rest of his personality. But I kind of love it.
- [72:09]
Michelle
Yeah, no, he contains multitudes, for sure, but my guess is this thing was probably already broken in some way and unusable. And somebody had it and they're like, well, get rid of it. Let's literally throw it over this fence. Because we have kind of not a tall, but a tallish fence. Let's throw it over the fence and just. And it probably broke the rest of the way. You know what I mean? I don't think people were, like, getting so high out there that they broke their bong and then scattered away, you know?
- [72:34]
Andrew Walsh
Right. No, I think your theory makes a lot of sense. Again, I'm just saying the same thing over and over again, but based on the first photo you showed me and my expectations for this thing, the idea that its belly was a home for drug Smoking. And it had glass coming out of its body, which was broken. Was a truly shocking development.
- [72:52]
Michelle
It really is. Now, let me ask you this, a production question. We don't want to make that the show pick today, do we? Instead of the rockers. I mean, what's.
- [72:59]
Andrew Walsh
Let's make that the show pick just a little bit less attention from the various entities that might not sure stoked about me and that story. I mean, I stand behind it. It's just. It's just the truth. But maybe let's. I might be a good idea to focus more on the Grogu aspect of today than the Luke stamping off from his job aspect.
- [73:22]
Michelle
It is a grim picture, I will say. I will say that, like, and I'm not somebody who's averse to marijuana usage, but, like, it's just a bong. But it's just like, it is real. It's kind of. First of all, Genevieve set it up, like, on top of our garbage bin to take this photo. So it's like this really, like, kind of grimy photo of a.
- [73:39]
Andrew Walsh
Was there any indication of the preferred gender of who might use the bong?
- [73:44]
Michelle
What's. What do you mean?
- [73:46]
Andrew Walsh
Is it possibly a lady bong?
- [73:48]
Michelle
Oh, a lady. Ladies for ladies.
- [73:53]
Andrew Walsh
I just wanted to, I don't know, connect it up to some tape from tbt.
- [73:56]
Michelle
Yeah, I'm sorry, you wanted that. You wanted that bong tape ready to go, and I'm furious here.
- [74:01]
Andrew Walsh
I honestly think that my impression of it was sufficient.
- [74:04]
Michelle
Wait, was that for ladies?
- [74:06]
Andrew Walsh
You know, his name is technically Ding Gru.
- [74:09]
Michelle
No, I didn't.
- [74:10]
Andrew Walsh
I'm learning this from the Internet right now. Din Grogu, colloquially referred to as Baby Yoda, is a character from the Star Wars Disney plus original TV series the Mandadorian and the Book of Boba Fett. He's a toddler, member of the same species as the Star wars character Yoda and Yaddle. Did you know there was a yaddle?
- [74:29]
Michelle
You know, what with all your yodaing and yaddling, just. Why not just pipe down?
- [74:34]
Andrew Walsh
With whom he shares a strong ability in the Force. I had no idea that there was a yaddle.
- [74:40]
Michelle
No, nor did I. Started watching the Mandadorian and then. I don't want to badmouth it because other people truly enjoy it, but it got a little corny for me about five.
- [74:53]
Andrew Walsh
I really enjoyed it.
- [74:54]
Michelle
You pushed all the way through, huh?
- [74:56]
Andrew Walsh
Well, I was watching it with my nephews. This was. I downloaded or not download. I purchased Stupid Disney plus to watch the Mandadorian. With my nephew's Japanese. And we had a great weekend watching the whole thing. And I found it entertaining. What I was really fascinated with was the Pedro Pascal aspect of it. Right. Because he is the Mandalorian. I can't even say the real name anymore. He's the Mandalorian. But the Mandalorian has this helmet on at all times. And it's just like, you just wonder if he was actually in there the whole time and why.
- [75:29]
Michelle
No, I think. I mean, I remember people asking why, But I mean, it is acting. And I think he was. I think he was in there all the time.
- [75:35]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, it'd be funny, but I enjoy.
- [75:37]
Michelle
A day off of work. Just, like, had somebody else suit up.
- [75:41]
Andrew Walsh
Do you think it's possible he ever stormed off the set? Because they wanted him to interview Sammy Hagar.
- [75:46]
Michelle
They wanted him to take off his helmet. And he said no. He said, I think we're done here.
- [75:49]
Andrew Walsh
He undid his lavalier mic from inside his armor and said, do your job.
- [75:56]
Michelle
Oh, my God.
- [75:57]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. The good news, Andrew, is that I've used up all my unprofessional behavior towards my other colleagues. So all I have left for you.
- [76:05]
Michelle
Is you have to be. You have to be so nice to me. I fucking love this. You have to be so nice to me. Now you're.
- [76:10]
Andrew Walsh
I. I've never needed this job more than I did today. If I'm being 100, you're right. Anything you need, you need. Do you need me to post the show?
- [76:19]
Michelle
Yeah, please do.
- [76:21]
Andrew Walsh
It's a laughable concept. All right. Sorry we didn't get to this. I actually am excited to talk to you tomorrow, Andrew, about this New Jersey politician and their Spotify wrapped. Now, we were talking about Spotify wrapped the other day on the show, and you were saying how it's kind of like not something that particularly jazzes you up, but this is a really, actually weird story about it. And again, it led to a really great correction by the New York Times.
- [76:46]
Michelle
Great. Yeah. I have not seen the. I saw that you had a link in the show.
- [76:50]
Andrew Walsh
Don't click on the link.
- [76:51]
Michelle
I'll tell you about it. Okay, good. Okay, that sounds good. And sounds like we probably don't have time. Time maybe for emails or V mails here. But let me just cap off the show then by saying, quick update on the Spotify wrapped thing.
- [77:01]
Andrew Walsh
Oh.
- [77:01]
Michelle
Because I was kind of bad mouthing it on the show the other day. And again saying, hey, everybody who enjoys a Spotify wrapped, enjoy away. It's not for me, certainly right but then I geeked out about the bus version of it. The orca, which is what we call the cards we pay for public transportation around here. My orca wrapped, not my orca, not how many times did you go to my orca, as you pointed out, but my orca wrapped. And I was like, oh, I'm really into this. I was surprised to see that the 40 was the bus route that I took, more than the E Line or what have you. But then another one hit me on, I think it was Friday. Luke, I almost texted this to you, but I was like, I don't know.
- [77:37]
Andrew Walsh
I just busy melting down.
- [77:39]
Michelle
Yeah, I was like, I want to. I think I want to tell you about this one. I was trying to figure out the best way to reveal this, and I guess it's right here, which is I went to play some darts, and I turned on my dartbot, an app called Dart Counter, but I call it dartbot, of course, on the show. And it's the app that it kind of creates a. A kind of a virtual opponent for me to play against, sort of. It gave me my dart, my year in darts wrapped, like, how many darts. Really, how many darts thrown and how many. Let me see. Did I. I don't think I have a. I don't think I have a screenshot of it in front of me right here, but if I did, I would share it with you.
- [78:20]
Andrew Walsh
But it was over my orca card.
- [78:22]
Michelle
He was very close to something.
- [78:23]
Andrew Walsh
Now there's something meteor.
- [78:24]
Michelle
And now keep in mind, and there are plenty of times I've thrown darts when I haven't had the app open as well. So it doesn't feel. Now that I know it's counting, I want to be even more sort of.
- [78:39]
Andrew Walsh
You want to goose the numbers?
- [78:41]
Michelle
Well, I want to goose the numbers, but I kind of feel like it's like when you have one of those fitness watches and you go for a walk and you leave the fitness watch at home. Think about it. Like, why am I even doing this if it's not counting myself steps? It's like, why would I even be throwing darts? But because one thing that I've been doing, I did a couple of weeks ago was I. I've decided that because in a lot of the games, hitting 20 is important, specifically a triple 20 on the dartboard. And it occurred to me the other day, I should be able to throw a dart into the 20, 100% of the time. Like, if I'm spending this much time throwing darts, I should be able to throw a Dark dart and hit the 20 every time I want to do it. So I started throwing darts and not even using the dartbot, just using my marker board. Just, like, how many times I hit a 20 and how many times did I miss a 20 and, like, trying to get my percentage up until eventually I can just like, every single time 100% hit the 20.
- [79:35]
Andrew Walsh
Is it working? Are you pretty.
- [79:37]
Michelle
I got better.
- [79:38]
Andrew Walsh
I pretty much hit the 20.
- [79:39]
Michelle
I got better at it, but I think that then I kind of stopped doing it, and I went back to playing actual games with the dartbop. But I think my. My best was I was getting it maybe two out of three darts. And that might be a slight. Exact, slight exaggeration. But, like, somewh around, they're better than. Better than 50%, I think maybe for a little bit there, but it's, you know, it's. It's difficult. But anyway, so not every single dart throne was counted, although I do think it had me at like 19,700 and some darts thrown or something like that. And that was a pretty. Pretty big break at the beginning of spring as well.
- [80:13]
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
- [80:13]
Michelle
So, yeah.
- [80:14]
Andrew Walsh
Wow. So, I mean, I think what we've learned from this is that everything is now wrapped. Everyone's getting on the engagement train.
- [80:23]
Michelle
Right, Right. Exactly. Like, I'm glad that, like, my refrigerator doesn't do it.
- [80:29]
Andrew Walsh
Your car, I promise you, your new stove. Oh, I never even told you about pizza beans.
- [80:33]
Michelle
Oh, that's right. Yes. Although I am looking. You. Do you want to. Do you want to do that tomorrow? I am looking.
- [80:38]
Andrew Walsh
It's not enough of a story for tomorrow. I just. You could even start bringing the music. I'll just tell you it doesn't matter.
- [80:44]
Michelle
Okay.
- [80:44]
Andrew Walsh
It's basically some weird story came out, like, on Sunday or whatever. Becca was reading it to me about the food that they're serving Luigi Mangione.
- [80:53]
Michelle
Oh, okay.
- [80:53]
Andrew Walsh
And it was allegedly, the headline was he had his choice between chicken parmigiana and pizza beans, which sent the Internet. First of all, that sounds pretty good for jail. My guess is the chicken parmigiana is not great in whatever the state jail in Pennsylvania is where he is, but it sent the Internet. Going to explore. What are pizza beans? And what they are is, like, cannellini beans in tomato sauce with some mirror pond. How do you say that?
- [81:24]
Michelle
I don't know.
- [81:25]
Andrew Walsh
Basically, you know, like, kind of, you know, onions and celery and carrots and garlic and whatever that is kind of sauteed up and then a bunch of cheese on top of it. So it's kind of like a lasagna, but instead of noodles, you've just got beans in there. And I made it yesterday, Andrew, and it was so good.
- [81:42]
Michelle
I'm seeing different pictures of this online, and some of it have it more like a finger food that you can actually pick up, but some of them are more like you just. It's just beans that you eat with a fork, but it's the. It's the ingredients on top that make it the pizza. Yeah.
- [81:55]
Andrew Walsh
The version I made was definitely not finger food. It was just kind of. It was basically a casserole.
- [81:59]
Michelle
Yeah. Okay.
- [82:00]
Andrew Walsh
Omg. It was good. I mean, I have, like, half of the casserole dish. No, I have almost all the casserole dish left, Andrew. I didn't eat half of a. I didn't eat half of a casserole dish of pizza beans by myself last night. Come on. What freak do you think I am?
- [82:13]
Michelle
It's funny that you should mention chicken parmesan, because that's what I did on Saturday. I drove Genevieve to the Eagles and then came back home, and I made what I call my poor man's chicken parmesan, which is a bunch of boiled, like, spaghetti on the bottom as the base with some oil in there, and then just, like, you know, like frozen. You know, like something you get out of the freezer at the grocery store. Just like chicken breasts or whatever. Strips or whatever. Cook those up. I lay those down on top of the noodles once the noodles are sort of seasoned and oiled, and then I put down some, you know, marinara sauce, but then I put down some pepperoni. Then I put down more marinara sauce, then just tons of mozzarella cheese, and I put that thing in the oven and.
- [82:52]
Andrew Walsh
That sounds great.
- [82:53]
Michelle
It's almost gone. I made that on Saturday night. I have one more serve upstairs that.
- [82:57]
Andrew Walsh
I'm probably eating my Seahawks feelings last night by way of pizza beans.
- [83:03]
Michelle
I don't know. I'll send you a couple of photos of this. It doesn't look super appetizing. It looks like a casserole. But I think you'll appreciate the crusty. I know you're a big fan of the crusty corners on things. Yes, yes.
- [83:13]
Andrew Walsh
All right. You send me that, please, and I will let everyone know that we have reached the end of today's broadcast. But I have incredible news. We're gonna be right back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio radio for all of you. Please join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall.
- [83:29]
Michelle
And good luck to you all. This one was created from a wooden vase from Fiji.
- [83:43]
Luke Burbank
Unsure what type of timber, but it's.
- [83:45]
Michelle
A ladies bong for ladies. Power out.