#4367 He Works Hard, He Grumps Hard

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL #4367 - He Works Hard, He Grumps Hard

Episode Information:

• Title: He Works Hard, He Grumps Hard
• Release Date: December 26, 2024
• Hosts: Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh

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Introduction

In episode #4367 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live, hosts Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh delve into a mix of personal anecdotes, reflections on their podcasting process, and lighthearted banter. Taped on the morning after their engagement party, the episode captures the quintessential dynamic of two longtime friends navigating both social gatherings and the intricacies of running a daily show.

Navigating Social Gatherings and Grumpiness

The episode opens with Andrew expressing reluctance to attend his engagement party, highlighting his struggle with social interactions:

Andrew Walsh [00:05]: "No. So tired."

Luke, ever the encourager, suggests Andrew use a humorous gadget to avoid conversations:

Luke Burbank [00:14]: "Put on your Cinco FaceTime party snoozer."

As the conversation unfolds, Andrew shares his ongoing battle with grumpiness during social events, reminiscing about a past summer party that turned sour due to bad weather:

Andrew Walsh [03:55]: "I think I'm getting less and less likable. But the reason for that is because I'm beginning to be less and less able to put on a happy face."

Luke empathizes, recalling his own difficulties in feigning friendliness:

Luke Burbank [04:47]: "And I remember beginning to get worse at faking it."

The hosts discuss the emotional toll of hosting parties, with Andrew detailing his extensive cleanup routine that often keeps him up until the early hours:

Andrew Walsh [07:33]: "I start cleaning when the last person leaves, meaning I'm usually up until like, 4, sometimes 5am Cleaning the house."

Luke adds a touch of humor, imagining Andrew as a cartoon character battling inebriated party guests:

Luke Burbank [08:45]: "I'm just imagining you as a cartoon and you're vacuuming the house, but then there's just some, like, very drunk person just passed out on the floor."

Dive into The Shaggy Dog and Its Sequel

The conversation takes a nostalgic turn as the hosts discuss the classic Disney film The Shaggy Dog and its sequel, The Shaggy DA:

Luke Burbank [14:13]: "I believe it's got Tim Conway in it."

Andrew Walsh [18:00]: "The shaggy DA came out in 1976."

They explore the plot intricacies and comedic elements, highlighting how the sequel elevated the original's premise from a boy transforming into a dog to that of an English sheepdog navigating the complexities of being a district attorney:

Luke Burbank [18:25]: "Successful lawyer will be. Daniels must fight corruption all while evading the local dog catcher."

The hosts share personal memories of the film, emphasizing its impact and the enduring charm of its characters.

Behind the Scenes: Uncovered Stories and Show Sheets

Transitioning to their podcasting process, Andrew reveals a Google Doc containing every show sheet from the year, uncovering numerous top stories they never got to discuss:

Andrew Walsh [20:39]: "Episode 4155, the Beautiful Biz Boys. Mark 5 2024. I had a whole list of edits to make here and they're all like kind of then crossed out."

Luke appreciates the transparency, noting the usefulness of revisiting these unused topics:

Luke Burbank [27:18]: "I did not find anything offensive or objectionable in there, Andrew, but it was very helpful."

They contemplate dedicating future episodes to these overlooked stories, injecting humor about their perpetual postponement:

Andrew Walsh [27:47]: "I would like to propose something here which would be deeply ironic."

Luke Burbank [28:08]: "We spent today explaining what we're going to do for the next several days, which is maybe going over some of these skipped top stories. Today we are going to skip the skipped top stories."

Donor Shout-outs and Lighthearted Banter

In a heartfelt segment, Luke and Andrew extend gratitude to their donors, blending genuine appreciation with playful jokes about the show's quirks:

Andrew Walsh [32:27]: "Thank you so, so much. And I am here for you."

Luke Burbank [32:37]: "Brenna, thank you so much. ... Please remember, no mountain too tall."

The hosts engage in amusing exchanges about cartoon characters like Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd, further showcasing their camaraderie and comedic timing:

Luke Burbank [29:08]: "I kind of got a weird, like, Bronx thing, I guess."

Andrew Walsh [30:01]: "Am I the Elmer? ... I'm trying to think of who I'm not the fancy duck."

Closing Thoughts and Future Plans

As the episode draws to a close, Luke and Andrew reflect on their journey and hint at upcoming plans for the podcast, including tackling the backlog of unaddressed stories:

Luke Burbank [36:08]: "We are going to be back here tomorrow, and I am, I'd say, 90% sure we're going to get to this brain rot story."

Andrew Walsh [36:26]: "We'll see, man, if I can, if I have anything to say about it."

Their conversation leaves listeners with a sense of anticipation for future episodes, promising more introspection and humorous discussions.

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Notable Quotes:

• Luke Burbank [00:14]: "Put on your Cinco FaceTime party snoozer."
• Andrew Walsh [03:55]: "I think I'm getting less and less likable."
• Luke Burbank [04:47]: "And I remember beginning to get worse at faking it."
• Andrew Walsh [18:00]: "The shaggy DA came out in 1976."
• Luke Burbank [27:18]: "I did not find anything offensive or objectionable in there."
• Andrew Walsh [32:27]: "Thank you so, so much. And I am here for you."
• Luke Burbank [36:08]: "We are going to be back here tomorrow."

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This episode offers a blend of personal stories, behind-the-scenes insights, and the trademark humor that listeners have come to love from the TBTL hosts. Whether grappling with the challenges of social events or reminiscing about beloved movies, Luke and Andrew provide an engaging narrative that resonates with both longtime fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Honey, Come on, honey, wake up.

[Andrew Walsh]

No. So tired.

[Luke Burbank]

It's our engagement party. All of our friends are gonna be here.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't want to talk to anybody. I'm asleep.

[Luke Burbank]

Fine. Put on your Cinco FaceTime party snoozer.

[Tim and Eric]

Then it's the Cinco FaceTime party snooozer. Sleep right through parties and social gatherings without anyone noticing. The Cinco FaceTime Party Snoozer features five distinct audio responses using my professional, professional voice. And the Cinco FaceTime party snoozer comes with this amazing body brace and earphones that pipe in soothing music so you won't need to hear a single word anyone is saying.

[Luke Burbank]

My accountant tells me that I might be eligible for a 436 rebate.

[Andrew Walsh]

Now?

[Tim and Eric]

Sure, why not?

[Luke Burbank]

As a small business owner, that's exactly what you want to hear.

[Tim and Eric]

I understand.

[Luke Burbank]

Rebate. Sign me up. Of course I want.

[Tim and Eric]

Thanks for coming. Take part in interesting conversations while you get much needed rest.

[Andrew Walsh]

We'd be on this river and it would wind around like this.

[Tim and Eric]

Sure, why not?

[Andrew Walsh]

We hire fish.

[Tim and Eric]

I understand.

[Andrew Walsh]

Pulling the fish.

[Tim and Eric]

I understand. Sounds good.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nobody fitness at all.

[Tim and Eric]

Okay. But, you know, thanks for coming.

[Andrew Walsh]

Caught maybe, I don't know, a dozen or so.

[Tim and Eric]

I understand.

[Andrew Walsh]

Blue River.

[Tim and Eric]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Really gorgeous, though.

[Tim and Eric]

Sure, why not? It's the Cinco FaceTime party snoozer. I understand.

[Andrew Walsh]

TBTL. What's up, Internet? What's up?

[Luke Burbank]

It's people who identify as nerdy, rapping about the things they love. Video games, science fiction, having a hard time meeting romantic partners. Losers, in other words.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I'll tell you another thing.

[Tim and Eric]

Once you step inside this circle, the weather never changes. It is always 67 degrees with a 40% chance of rain.

[Luke Burbank]

Always. What if my heart stops? What if I'm looking for a bathroom, I can't find it and my bladder explodes? Holy forking shirt balls. We're in the good place. Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of tbtl. The show just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank, right over there, digging himself out from under a eggnog related morning. The Morning after is the longest running cobra of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Mr. Andrew Walsh. Good morning, my friend.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thanks for coming. I'm always inspired whenever I hear that sketch from Tim and Eric. And I understand. I just want to lay a thanks for coming on somebody in an inappropriate time. I want. It always makes me want to do that. I want to have people over here and we're talking I mean, the hard part is getting me to have people over, but we're having. And then somebody's telling a story. The more serious the story, the better. And I just say, thanks for coming. Like, what a. What a chilling effect on the conversation that would have.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, I was going to say, the thing about it is, I don't want to misdescribe you when it comes to the party environment, because, like, well, for one thing, you know, Genevieve likes to have get togethers, and you often specify this is Genevieve's party.

[Andrew Walsh]

Indeed, it is, because.

[Luke Burbank]

But you also do a lot of work for these events as far as getting stuff ready. And I've been to events where Genevieve. It's Genevieve's party, but you're there barbecuing, and you're incredibly pleasant to be around. But if you had your druthers, and I don't know if you want to admit this, the day after Christmas, would you be wearing a Cinco party snoozer? Like, would you. Would you rather be, like, anywhere but there at the grill listening to your B52s and making flipping burgers?

[Andrew Walsh]

I think once we're into. I think once the party starts, I'm fine. I will say, the last time Genevieve had a party, like, I always. I gotta admit, I'm always grumpy at the beginning. I always feel bad for the first people I talked to at one of Genevieve's parties because, like, I do remember the last summer party Genevieve had. It ended up being a bad weather day, which is a real bummer for her. I feel bad. Like, I remember the rain was really coming down, so it became an indoor party, and I was running, but we still had, like, a keg and a bunch of coolers, so I, like, ran out to get more ice at the last minute. And then, I mean, I am just. I am getting less and less. I honestly think I'm getting less and less likable. But the reason for that is because I'm. I'm beginning to be less and less able to put on a happy face. I think. I think I'm a bit more of a raw nerve these days.

[Luke Burbank]

And I remember beginning to get worse at faking it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And I don't want to be that much of a grump. I want to be likable. I want people to like me. I want people to give me money because they like me so much. I want people to bestow on me their. Their. Their extra airline miles. I have some friends who maybe would do that. You want to become a.

[Luke Burbank]

You want to be MVP gold for the calendar year 2025. That's your project, 2025, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

It would be. Hey, you were the one sending emails.

[Luke Burbank]

I know.

[Andrew Walsh]

25 projects to me and the business boy, tech.

[Luke Burbank]

I was emailing with you and John Sklaroff about something, and I said, this could be a good. This could be part of a good project for 2025 or something. And it was. Or a 2025 project. And I was like, ugh, yeah, gross.

[Andrew Walsh]

That didn't feel great. But anyway, I do remember coming home with a bunch of ice. It was raining, and then I went to p. Into my parking spot, and I. I left before the party started. But I got back 20 minutes later, the party had started. And so people had already taken my parking spot, which, by the way, my parking spot is not like, it's not even in a driveway. It's public. I mean, it's technically public parking.

[Luke Burbank]

It's got a sign that says Browns Parking.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, right? I mean, it's this public parking, but it's nose in parking. It's not parallel parking by our house. And I basically have this area that now also I've laid down gravel there because of some drainage issues where I park my car every single day. And it's essentially like my parking spot, right? And so I come back with these bags of ice. And the party goers for Genevieve's party have already taken up my spot. So now I'm needing to parallel park in a place I don't want to park. It's raining. I'm carrying bags of ice. I'm already. And then I walk through the door, the basement door, and I think, oh, I'm going to come in the basement way, because if there's any party people here, they're already upstairs, right? But I come in the basement door, and the party has already gotten. I don't know, people showed up on time and under budget, apparently, because there was already a bunch, you know, a handful of people down in the basement area. I would like to reiterate people whom I know and love, and I'm not just saying that because somebody might hear this. I mean that quite earnestly. But I just, I. I think about growing up, and I love my dad, but my dad worked hard and he grumped hard, and sometimes he was really grumpy. And I remember just being very confused why a man would be so grumpy. And now that I am 48 years old and grumpy a lot, I feel like. I feel like I just came in with My grumpy face. And then eventually I warmed up, and then the party was a good time. So I will say that it takes me a while. I think most of my anxiety comes in the days and weeks leading up to the party. And then it comes to a peak right as the party begins. And I have this feeling of just wanting to be like, well, how about I just keep the basement to myself and don't let anybody down here, and this is my area.

[Luke Burbank]

And then eventually barricade yourself in.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And then once the party starts, I loosen up. But then I do always have to realize, like, I am going to be up super late clean cleaning, because I just. I am. And maybe this is a mental problem. Like, seriously, but like a mental illness. But, like, I just can't go to sleep that night with, like, the whole house in full disarray and, like, food and beer out, you know, like, whatever. So I start cleaning when the last person leaves, meaning I'm usually up until like, 4, sometimes 5am Cleaning the house. Those. Those party days. And so I bet you when you.

[Luke Burbank]

Get into bed at 5am, though, and the house is spotless and you've done your duty.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

The party's over. And, you know, obviously it's like a Saturday or Sunday, so you likely don't have to get up for anything.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

But that's a good feeling.

[Andrew Walsh]

It is. And that's why the last couple of parties, I told Genevieve, and I don't think that Genevieve loves this. And again, to her credit, not to mine. To her credit, she loves having a house where people can stay over after a late party night. But I'm like, no, no, no. I'm cleaning this house. So I've said to her the last couple of times, please, like, you can have this party. I do all the cleaning ahead of time. I'll do all the cleaning afterwards. But please, can you just not let. Not invite people to sleep on the couch, because this is gonna be. As soon as the last person leaves tonight, this is gon my territory again. And so that's.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm just imagining you as a cartoon and you're vacuuming the house, but then there's just some, like, very drunk person just passed out on the floor. And you pick them up by their toe.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And you pull their whole body up another on their head. And you vacuum under.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yep, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

They were. And then you place them back down.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm seeing. I know that I've been watching a lot of this lately, but I see that as a Pink Panther cartoon.

[Luke Burbank]

So I Think that's got to be where that's coming from. You know, the thing I do like having get together. And in fact, sometimes when I'm, like, in the midst of one of my little jogs or something, particularly when I'm on the treadmill, which is very monotonous, I will kind of occupy my mind by imagining a moment that is, well, let's say three years overdue. I remember being at a bar with you and Genevieve and other people right after I'd bought this little house, saying, like, 4th of July, it's happening.

[Andrew Walsh]

That was, there's gonna be a swimming pool made out of a container.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I believe. And this was. I want to say, 2014, when I was saying this 10 years ago, on this very day, Andrew. And, you know, we've just been blowing through nap time, but I actually think that this summer, I. Things will be operational. I'm not gonna have a shipping container swimming pool. That is just impractical and very, very expensive. I'm gonna have a hot tub, which is. It is what it is. But I very much like the idea of having some folks over. I think it'll be actually good for me. I think one of the things. When I lived in Bellingham and we had that swimming pool, we used to have a lot of get togethers, and I loved it. I'm a little isolated out here, and I think I would do better just emotionally, if I started to kind of host more things and just have more people than just me and occasionally Walt in this house. That being said, the thing that I cannot fake being nice around is when someone shows up to a party that I'm throwing early. I have no ability to mock kind of like what you're describing. Like, you think your grump, sort of your grumpiness is actually like, you're wearing it on your sleeve despite your best efforts. When I'm. Because there is, you know, the last half hour before a get together starts. Like, let's say people are invited at three. The shit that goes down between two and three, if you're me, is. It's intense. It's pressure packed. It ain't fun. It is like a race to the finish to get everything perfectly in place and ready to go. And the music is dialed in, and everything is like. Because you know me, I'm a. You know, appearances really matter to me, which, you know, nobody likes to admit to that. But I'm good. I'm here to tell you this, that I do. Unfortunately, I care about that stuff too much. And so if I'M running around getting everything ready and then I just look and there's someone standing. I can see their head in the window of the door, my front door. It's like, what the hell are you doing?

[Andrew Walsh]

Who's doing that?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I remember years ago on Christmas, I was talking about having mimosas in the sun on Christmas Day. I remember throwing a party, having a get together at my house in LA in Echo Park. And I remember, let's say that this was a Saturday and the party was supposed to start at 2 or something. Me and my ex had bought this house. We're very proud of having bought a house in la. It was a really fun kind of spot to be in. Was sort of near Dodger Stadium and having people over, it's a big thing. And I said, I want to say the party, let's just say it was supposed to start at three. I look out at standing on the front door at 2:15 is somebody I worked with at NPR west who was an editor on the show on Day to Day and a person who I really like and really liked, but who clearly didn't understand that a 3pm invite does not mean 2:15.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't understand that mentality at all. Was it a mistake? I mean, who thinks that? Like, honestly, I usually think if you say your party starting at a certain time, you do not show up until at least a half hour after.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, I would say that's a good, safe number that I tend to shoot for. I don't know, you know, this person. And by the way, I'm glad that we invited her because I don't know if this was a person who maybe had been invited to lots of get togethers and maybe she was concerned about traffic and then when the traffic wasn't bad, she got there early. I don't know what the story was, but I just know when I looked over and I was like, oh, okay. Hi. Hello. Like it be. And it's tied into the fact that I want everything to be. I want it to be a reveal. I want someone, if they're going to show up at 3:05, I want them to step into a world of pure imagination where they're like, oh, wow, your place looks nice and this music is a good vibe. And yes, I will have a drink. And like I want. It's so important to me that their experience is a certain way. Which by the way, is totally dumb of me that when they show up early, they've not only gotten there too or they've ruined my sense of what their experience is going to be.

[Andrew Walsh]

They're seeing all your cracked magazines instead of your New Yorkers that you replace them with on your coffee table.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. You know, and just so you know, if you see me reading a New Yorker, there's probably a cracked magazine inside of the New Yorker.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I know. I think I learned that move from the movie the Big Shaggy Dog. I could be wrong about that. I don't remember anything about that movie other than I. Here's what I think I know about that movie. It has a big shaggy dog in it. It's a Disney movie, probably one that was maybe originally made for tv. And I want to say. This is the big one. I want to say Fred McMurray. I want to see Fred McMurray is in the Big Hairy Dog. Big hairy dog.

[Luke Burbank]

I want to say. You're absolutely right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, nice. And I believe there is somebody. I believe there's a boy who maybe before I don't know the plot, but maybe there's a boy who's obsessed with dogs or something like that before.

[Luke Burbank]

I think it looks like maybe a boy. Does a boy get turned into a dog?

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe that's what I But I swear it looks.

[Luke Burbank]

Is wearing a letterman jacket talking on the phone. On the.

[Andrew Walsh]

By the way, that's the poster.

[Luke Burbank]

I believe that's the movie poster for Walt Disney's the Shaggy Dog is an all timer. Andrew. It's so good. I actually would buy this print and frame it and put it up somewhere in my house. It's just. I mean it is so of a moment. You've got. You've got the shaggy dog casually talking on the telephone. Oh yeah, this isn't that great.

[Andrew Walsh]

So this would make me think that it wasn't made for TV if it had a movie poster.

[Luke Burbank]

Will be. Daniels is a boy who creates often dangerous inventions. As a retired mailman who often ran afoul of canines. Will be his father, Wilson Boy. They spared every expense on coming up with names for movies in the 1950s. His father Wilson hates dogs and can understand why his younger son Montgomery Moochie Daniels wants one. Will be in his rival Buzz Miller go with French girl Francesca Andrassi to a museum they eventually leave without Willby. Blah blah blah. Will be later collides at the table that holds a display case of jewelry. Does this ever explain why he transforms into Chiffon, Francesca's old English sheepdog confused Wilby as a dog goes to Plumcut who says that the blah blah blah. So yeah, it's a boy who becomes A dog.

[Andrew Walsh]

Because I feel like. And this is where I could be very wrong. The only thing that I feel like I remember seeing in that movie is maybe before he becomes a dog, he's a boy who's dog obsessed maybe. And he's sitting on the porch. I believe he's sitting outside somewhere. And it looks like he's reading a book. But then it's revealed that inside the book, I believe is a magazine, maybe a. Maybe a comic book about dogs or a magazine celebrating the dog lifestyle. I feel, I don't know why you'd have to hide that though.

[Luke Burbank]

Dogs Quarterly. Is it like crotch Quarterly?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, because that's where the dog. That's what the dogs tend to target. Yeah, that's what they. But yeah, I would love to, I would love to find this actual scene and see if I remember. Because I'm talking like this is like a. Just a fractal of a memory that like literally from my youth maybe seeing this like at my grandparents house or something. I have no idea why, but I swear that's where I was like, oh, you can slide a comic book into a textbook and nobody will know how.

[Luke Burbank]

Clever I'm trying to buy one of these posters. But the problem is there, there are lots of different versions, but not the exact one I'm looking for the one from Wikipedia page. The red background where the dog is, is on the phone with someone else. There's a lot of ones where by the way, they, of course they also remade this with National Treasure. Tim Allen. There's a shaggy dog reboot with Tim Allen.

[Andrew Walsh]

Heard a little bit of Tim Allen in our intro yesterday.

[Luke Burbank]

We did. Thanks to DFTB for sending in that intro for the Christmas show. I would say Molly Shannon saves it per always. And Tim Allen, Tim Allen just doesn't mess it up for her.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, I would agree with that assessment. I would describe that lately completely. Did you, you know, you had heard of the Shaggy dog before? I raised it. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

I had heard of it, but I didn't know any of these details that you're now. That you're now sharing with me. And I would. I could have maybe guessed it was a Chevy Chase movie.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I see. Like a more of a modern goofy.

[Luke Burbank]

Wasn't there. Was there also something called the Shaggy Detective? Did this expand into like where this dog starts solving crimes Now I saw.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wait, no, I did just. See I'm off the Wikipedia page now, but I'm pretty sure there was something called the Shaggy Da. I think I just saw.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

That it said that it was a sequel, so you might be absolutely right. Here it is. Here it is. A sequel. The shaggy DA came out in 1976.

[Luke Burbank]

District Attorney.

[Andrew Walsh]

So keep in mind, this film came out in 59.

[Luke Burbank]

Pretty important job for a dog.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, so it was like, 15 years later. Somebody was like, and this is before everything was like, you know, franchise. Fifteen years later, they're like, well, we should do a follow up to the shaggy dog. Yes, we should. What do you want to do? Well, we should make him the district attorney, probably.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, the stakes just get so much higher after being suddenly transformed into an English sheepdog. Successful lawyer will be. Daniels must fight corruption all while evading the local dog catcher. It's just. I mean, it goes from like a kind of a, hey, I'm a kid and I want to go to the soda fountain, but a I look like a dog to I'm trying to bring carceral reform to this county.

[Andrew Walsh]

And also, I'm trying to think. So it doesn't have Fred McMurray. It's got a. Oh, I don't think I know this guy.

[Luke Burbank]

I think it's got Tim Conway in it. AKA Dorfun Golf.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, it looks like Tim. Oh, there it is. Tim Conway. Yeah. So he's the one who's, like, in the doghouse. Okay, great. I'm actually more interested in seeing this than the original. Although I want to find that scene of the boy reading the book and see if I have any. Any accurate memory of that.

[Luke Burbank]

How can he work for the Innocence Project while currently inhabiting a shaggy dog?

[Andrew Walsh]

What's the name of the guy who ran the Innocence Project?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, there was a few. Barry Sheck was the one.

[Andrew Walsh]

Barry Sheck is who I'm thinking of.

[Luke Burbank]

He was kind of the big.

[Andrew Walsh]

The Shaggy shack. The Shaky Dog.

[Luke Burbank]

The Shaggy dog, sir, we're filing a.

[Andrew Walsh]

RIP of habeas corpus. If I can spell rup, that would be the show title. Unfortunately, my skills aren't that deep.

[Luke Burbank]

See, this is why you listen to these weird, loopy holiday week shows, because every once in a while, we will. What we won't do is get to the actual plan. But what we will do is, is find ourselves in a place we never expected. Like a shaggy dog running the Innocence Project. Okay, the plan for today actually was to maybe kind of go through. And as, again, as we're getting kind of close to the end of the year, maybe check some boxes. Close the things that close. Andrew. That is the many, many top stories that I have promoted throughout the year that we have not actually ever gotten to. It's kind of a joke on the show at this point. What was eye opening to me, Andrew, was when you shared a Google Doc that you've been keeping all year that literally has every single show sheet pasted into it in order. Although there was one missing week, by the way, which I was confused by. We could talk about that later.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, potentially. That would maybe have been one of the holiday breaks where I keep a.

[Luke Burbank]

Separate show sheet, so I couldn't quite tell. But anyway, it was. You sent me this because I said, you know, we were talking about doing this to try to get some of these stories handled finally, at long last. And I was scrolling through it, and it was really. It was an interesting experience to kind of see your. First of all, I expected the formatting to be. I expected that you, in a kind of an OCD fashion, would have gone in and like, really meticulously reformatted everything. It's a little more. It was. It was a little more haphazard than I expected.

[Andrew Walsh]

You see that I do format it. I have a standard formatting, but sometimes I don't get to it because I kind of do that mindlessly during the show. You probably see me sitting over here, here. Let's get into the boring process here. Every day you put together a show sheet, right? And it's your notes. Basically. It's got the date, the critical information for the show.

[Luke Burbank]

It may have the show title or the show number. It may have the wrong.

[Andrew Walsh]

The wrong number. But of course, we don't have a show title or a description or anything. At that point, you send me kind of a list of what the top stories are going to be or are supposed to be that day. And just your general skeleton of the show. I take that, I copy and paste it into a word doc, and then each day I just paste a new one on top. And so at the end of the year, I have, starting from the first show in January to the last show in December, a record of what our plan was for the show. During the actual podcast, like we're doing right now, I will type notes in there like, oh, this is a good show title. Or grab that shaggy dog photo for the show pick for the website. You know, like, I'm literally putting these notes in as we're talking today. And then at the end of the show, I take that and I smooth it out and it becomes literally the document I use to, like, post the show online. It's got a. I'll put a show title, a little description, the notes about the photo, et cetera, et cetera. I will also sometimes put other notes in there, like, oops, cut out the part where I stumbled on this or iffy joke or something. Now I don't do a lot of that. And it's 99% of the time something about me stumbling nowadays because I record a different way, I can just do something quicker and put a little pull, tick mark in the actual recording and I go back and I clean it up. I don't have to take as many notes. But I was wondering, like when we had this idea, I was like, oh, you know, we missed a lot of topics.

[Luke Burbank]

You're letting me into your thoughts.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And I was like, you know, Luke, I have a whole document with all of our show sheets. So we should be able to go through there and just see like, what are, what are top stories that we missed and maybe we can like wrap up the year by going through some of those. And then I was like, I was talking to you on this very line and then I was like, oh, I'll just share this doc with you. And I gotta be honest with you, I've never shared my show sheet notes with anybody. I'm not writing a lot of personal stuff in there. Dear Diary, today on the show, Luke was a real tool. But it did occur to me, I'm like, I am not keeping these notes with the expectation of anybody else seeing them.

[Luke Burbank]

These are not outward facing.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I'm sharing this with you in December. God knows what I wrote in January. You know what I mean? Did I, did I say.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean our relationship went through it this year and the listeners don't know.

[Andrew Walsh]

This cut out another one of Luke's dumbass jokes. You know, I'm assuming you did not see anything like that or anything that was embarrassing in here.

[Luke Burbank]

No, I didn't. And the thing I'll say is I was, I was scanning this at the almost 30,000 foot level, which was my process was I would look at the proposed top stories and then I would go to the next day's show and see if one of or more of the proposed top stories had ended up on the like. So it's a Monday show, we're going to talk about X, Y or Z. And then I look at the Tuesday show and it says we're going to talk about X, Y or Z. And then I look at the Wednesday show and it says we're going to like the same thing. Just keeps showing up day after day after day. Some of them went on for like, I think Five to seven shows would be the like real outer edge of how many times I would put something on the show sheet that we wouldn't get to. And then usually eventually it would just be like, just let it go, just release it back into the wild. And so what I did was I tried to find some stories that fit that description that I didn't have any memory of us talking about, but I did not like go into. I didn't take the time to really like. But now I have the link, unless you lock me out of it. So maybe, you know, later I'll. Under candlelight, I'll go back and here's.

[Andrew Walsh]

Here's a. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but here's a good example. Let's see. Episode 4155, the Beautiful Biz Boys. Mark 5 2024. I had a whole list of edits to make here and they're all like kind of then crossed out. You know how you can cross things out in a word doc. So at the 28 minute mark, huge stop down and restart. Riverside 2925. A huge edit point. Luca corrects himself. Need to cut exclamation point. We must have been having technical issues this day because again, at 37, huge stop down, edit and break. Here we go. 40. Andrew Stumble. I'm just going to be honest here. I'm going to be transparent. It says Andrew stumbles on teal. We were probably thanking our donors. Audrey and Ryan and I must have. They have a Instagram teal house on the hill.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Dedicated to their tiny house. Their teal house on the hill in Akron, in the Akron area. And I must have stumbled on that, but didn't want to leave the stumble in while thanking donors. I'm assuming that's what happened here. I also have here edit out Catherine and Paul story. I probably told a personal story about my friends Catherine and Paul then later thought, oh, that's probably not for public consumption, and edited it out. So these are the types of things that you might be able to see when I was taking notes from. From a way back earlier in this year. Clean up after dazzlers.

[Luke Burbank]

I do know that feeling though, of even if it's just an email, that's like a long email chain, like a back and forth and back and forth and then you forward it to someone and there's nothing. There's probably nothing in there that was bad. But you also. There's just this like when you're creating something with. With assuming one set of eyes is going to be on it versus somebody else, like, letting me in, you know, behind the curtain on this, I could see it, you being like, God, I hope that on one day I wasn't just in a bad mood and just be like, like, luke, racist joke. What the hell?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I'm looking at one now from March 19, episode 4165 staring into the VOIP.

[Luke Burbank]

That's a great name, dude.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's a good one.

[Luke Burbank]

That was all you. That was a good name.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I do see that. I say huge stop down all exclamat points and caps, and then it says, beep. Edie. Why was I. Who's Edie? And why was I? Oh, it's. No, it's Eddie Pepitone. I see. We must have played. But instead, they go on a strange journey involving Zune recorders, landline telephones, and comedian Eddie Pepitone. So I must have played some Eddie Pepitone tape that needed some cleaning up. All right, I'll stop reading this list.

[Luke Burbank]

I did not find anything offensive or objectionable in there, Andrew, but it was very helpful. Thank you. Because I. Again, it was. It was a neat, easy way for me to just, like, identify some top stories that we never got to, including this one, which was from very recent. This was something that actually didn't have to go back months and months. It was a story that I promoted about Brainrot being the Oxford University Press. Is that the same as the Oxford Dictionary? Have they changed their name?

[Andrew Walsh]

I believe there's a connection there. But I would like to propose something here which would be deeply ironic. I don't know if you're thinking the same thing, but. But I feel like I literally think we should bump this to tomorrow. We spent today explaining what we're going to do for the next several days, which is maybe going over some of these skipped top stories. Today we are going to skip the skipped top stories.

[Luke Burbank]

I love it.

[Andrew Walsh]

And tomorrow, it's the only appropriate way.

[Luke Burbank]

To start this exercise. Andrew.

[Andrew Walsh]

We will talk tomorrow about the word of the year and why I have issues with it.

[Luke Burbank]

Love it. Thank you for being a tam. Time to thank some of the TBTL donors who are voluntarily donating their money to the program to make this thing. I mean, I must say, Andrew, the idea that we actually did not get to the top story today is just Chef's kiss. Honestly, no notes. That's just. That is the most perfect encapsulation of what is wrong with this show and what's right with this show.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, if we play our cards right, we will get to the end of this project and still have not gotten to any of the top stories.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely incredible. And you know who would love it? Nancy Nestor.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right.

[Luke Burbank]

Albuquerque, New Mexico.

[Andrew Walsh]

I can't say it in that funny way. You do like Bugs.

[Luke Burbank]

You got it. You've got to channel your inner Bugs Bunny.

[Andrew Walsh]

Who's.

[Luke Burbank]

I kind of got a weird, like, Bronx thing, I guess. You know?

[Andrew Walsh]

I guess, like, I don't.

[Luke Burbank]

I should have taken a left an Albuquerque. I mean, that's not a good Bugs.

[Andrew Walsh]

Bunny, but better than me.

[Luke Burbank]

The energy that he's bringing is real. Like, ah, what's up? I'm not gonna say what's up, Doc?

[Andrew Walsh]

You are way more of a Bugs Bunny than I am. Bugs Bunny is crafty. Bugs Bunny kind of is not Afra. Honestly, getting out of trouble. Is Bugs Bunny a bit of a narcissist?

[Luke Burbank]

He's a sociopath and a narcissist. Have you. Do you ever see Bugs Bunny do anything that helps anyone that's not Bugs Bunny?

[Andrew Walsh]

Does Bugs Bunny return his shopping cart or does he leave it in the parking lot?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, are you kidding me? He rides it down the street like some kind of a hot rod while poor Elmer Fudd is chasing him down. So you're supposed to bring that back. When did I try. When did I turn into Mel Blanc? What am I even trying to do with these impressions?

[Andrew Walsh]

Would you say? Am I the Elme? I'm trying to think of who I'm not the fancy duck. That's too much.

[Luke Burbank]

No, you're the Elmer Fudd because you're kind of a rules guy. You like plaid and I'm kind of a rules.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I'm always coming out on top and everybody wants to be me. Like Elmer Fud.

[Luke Burbank]

You're always kind of reminding us to be.

[Andrew Walsh]

Valley.

[Luke Burbank]

Valley. Quiet. We're hunting rabbits.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's true. I tell you to stand by at the beginning of every show.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, you do.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can I be the guy with the two guns that's on the back? Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Yosemite Sam.

[Andrew Walsh]

I would rather be him. Is really the short straw. I'm not saying you're wrong. I am not saying you're wrong. I think you're right. But it just is causing me to do a of self reflection. I didn't want to do the day.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, the first step is you got to get yourself some six shooters. And you've got to perfect the art of firing them into the ground so ferociously that it lifts you off the ground.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Therefore making you taller.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm going to give myself. Does he have a. What do you call that?

[Luke Burbank]

Bandolero?

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm thinking of a blunderbuss or something. What is the actual gun?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I don't think it's full blunderbuss. I think it's more like, you know, western.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Like it's less pilgrim. It's less. It's less pilgrim and more, you know, six shooter or something.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah. Elmer Fudd is more of a blunderbuss if anybody.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. He's a hunting. He's. He's out there.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

But he does sing a beautiful rendition of Kill the rabbit.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

To the tone, to the. To the tune of whatever that opera is. Killed a wabbit, Killed a wabbit, Killed a wabbit. Kill the wabbit. Brad Zwearing. How do we say Brad's last name?

[Andrew Walsh]

Zwierink.

[Luke Burbank]

Zwierink.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm gonna go with Zwierink.

[Luke Burbank]

Brad Zwierink had one request when he donated to the show, and that was more Elmer Fudd impressions from Luke. And you're welcome. Brad's in Springfield, Missouri. Do you remember when we were in Springfield, Missouri, my old friend?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, you always ask me that. Unfortunately, I don't. We must just pass through, right? Did we stay in Springfield?

[Luke Burbank]

We stayed in Springfield. I believe we tried to stay at the hotel that was connected to a giant bass pro shop.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that was Springfield. That's where we wanted to get some food. And we found ourselves in some sort of a huge buffet.

[Luke Burbank]

And then just like try the land crab.

[Andrew Walsh]

We just worked. That's right. They said try just like turned around seafood buffet.

[Luke Burbank]

It really was landlocked part of the middle of America. That's also where Brad is. Thanks, Brad. Thanks to Lisa Curry who's in Hoffman Estates, Illinois. Sounds lovely over there. Hoffman Estates.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sorry. I bounced out of the conversation for a second. So I want to see if I could find our old notes of our old itinerary from that trip. But I could not. But Lisa, I'm sorry that I wasn't there. I wasn't there emotionally at first.

[Luke Burbank]

For your.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thank you.

[Luke Burbank]

I was being strong for both of us.

[Andrew Walsh]

But I am thanking you now from the bottom.

[Luke Burbank]

I was being thankful for two.

[Andrew Walsh]

I appreciate it.

[Luke Burbank]

But now I need to lean on you when we're thanking Brenna Colorton of Gig Harbor, Washington.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, absolutely. Brenna, thank you so, so much. And I am here for you. And I'm definitely here to spend your hard earned dollars on new equipment like I really do need. Maybe in the new year I'm gonna get myself a new audio board and we'll call it.

[Luke Burbank]

You really should.

[Andrew Walsh]

Brenna Cholerton board.

[Luke Burbank]

There you go. Oh, we haven't even talked about naming rights. Yes, I mean, I'm trying to think of who could get the naming rights on the Madrona Hill studio.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, well, that already has a name. Wow.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, we'll just tack it on. We'll just sell it. We'll just, you know.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ladon Townsend. Now, I forgot the name of your studio already. I can't hold two ideas.

[Luke Burbank]

Ladon Townsend. Well, I'm not going to say Memorial, because I believe we still have Ladon.

[Andrew Walsh]

Of course. Yes, yes. Don't say that.

[Luke Burbank]

We just call it the Ladon Townsend studio at Madrid at Madrona.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, that's what I was trying to figure out. Okay. Yeah. How do you get the Madrona in there?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, Ladon is in Kingston, Washington. You know, opb, the. The Portland radio station? Oh, yeah, I forgot. You are down with opb. How can I explain it? I'll take it.

[Andrew Walsh]

The fact that I said, oh, you know me, really belies the fact that I know that song.

[Luke Burbank]

They're always now broadcasting from the Gert Boyle studio. And I don't know if you know who Gert Boyle is, but, you know. Oh, gosh. The listeners, including Stephanie Gundell, who's in Seattle, Washington.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thanks, Stephanie. Stephanie, what's the.

[Luke Burbank]

What's the. There is. There's a particular kind of outdoor clothing. In other words, like, you know, really like heavy duty, you know, sort of jackets for being out in the snow and stuff. And it's a Pacific Northwest brand. It's not rei, it's another one.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, and some cliff. Or is their logo the hanging off the cliff thing? What am I thinking? Well, the thing is North End something. Something ends.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't think it's. Is it north face?

[Andrew Walsh]

North face is what I was thinking of. Good Lord Andrew, Jesus.

[Luke Burbank]

No, but listen, there's the. So the. I'm the can't believe that. I can't remember which particular brand. Again, it's a Pacific Northwest, very, very hardy outdoor clothing brand. Started founded by, I believe, this woman, Gert Bole and her husband, maybe. And then the commercials for years when I was a kid, and they were great. Is like, basically Gert Boyle, who at this point was pretty old, you know, getting up there, she would be like on the side of a mountain and she'd be dragging her, like, son along who was like in his 40s and he wanted no part. I think the joke was always that she was totally fearless and, like, just, like, down for anything when it comes to outdoorsiness. And he was always a little bit more tentative.

[Andrew Walsh]

Columbia, Columbia, Columbia, Columbia Sportswear. Looking at her obit right now. Yes, Portland.

[Luke Burbank]

And they were great commercials.

[Andrew Walsh]

They were so funny.

[Luke Burbank]

I loved them as a kid. And. And now the Columbia Sportswear has. I don't know how long the naming rights last for, but every time you hear them on opb, they're at the Gert Boyle studio, which I think is actually kind of. Kind of cool.

[Andrew Walsh]

That is pretty cool.

[Luke Burbank]

Anyway, we'll, you know, we'll figure out what the naming rights to your basement room and what the Madrona Hill studio are going for and put those out on the open market.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, I'll name everything. I got two microphones in here. I have two. What do you call these things? Scarlet. They're like audio. Digital audio interfaces. I have two of those. I mean, I am willing to name everything in here. I have two ring lights each.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you have, like, can we. Can we name the phone line? Can it be the Roxino party line or something?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, my God. We definitely need to name the TBTL hotline. In fact, we've joked about that for so long.

[Luke Burbank]

The Spiro's Pizza Hotline.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's it. Everything is for sale in 2025. Everything is for sale.

[Luke Burbank]

And that's what we call Project 2025.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, what a terrible way to end the show. Okay, going to do right now.

[Luke Burbank]

Thank you, everyone, for listening. We are going to be back here tomorrow, and I am, I'd say, 90% sure we're going to get to this brain rot story.

[Andrew Walsh]

We'll see, man, if I can, if I have anything to say about it.

[Luke Burbank]

Love it. All right, we'll see you tomorrow. Thanks for listening, folks. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Andrew Walsh]

And good luck to all. Power out.