#4399 Putting Some English On It

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live – Episode #4399 "Putting Some English On It"

Release Date: February 10, 2025

Hosts: Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh
Description: TBTL is a daily show hosted by two longtime friends navigating the world with humor and insight. In this episode, Luke and Andrew delve into a variety of topics ranging from cinematic voices to the intricacies of international travel, culminating in deep discussions about the Super Bowl and contemporary cultural phenomena.

---

1. Michael Caine’s Voice and Performance Style

The episode kicks off with Luke Burbank humorously critiquing Michael Caine's distinctive voice, particularly his slow and nasal delivery.

• Luke Burbank [00:00]: "Michael Caine's voice. Now, in the Batman movies and in Harry Brown. I can't go fast because Michael Caine talks very, very slowly."

• Andrew Walsh [00:27]: "Right?"

Luke continues to dissect Caine’s vocal nuances, emphasizing his specific intonation and emotional delivery, which contrasts humorously with Andrew's attempts to mimic him.

• Luke Burbank [00:27]: "When he gets loudly, it gets very loud indeed. It's not quite nasal enough the way you're doing it, all right?"

2. Travel Woes and Anxiety: Andrew’s Journey to London

Andrew Walsh shares his fraught journey to London, detailing the challenges of jet lag, missing luggage, and the resultant anxiety.

• Andrew Walsh [04:44]: "You know, I couldn't plug it into the wall here because it's a different thing. And I have one of those converters. But of course, I left it at home."

Luke empathizes with Andrew's predicament, discussing the stringent processes of international travel and the emotional toll of misplaced belongings.

• Genevieve [05:23]: "It just sounds like a terrible thing, like sort of just feeling like there is so much that I need to do right now that I can do absolutely nothing."

3. Super Bowl Recap: Eagles’ Victory and Saquon Barkley’s Performance

The hosts reflect on the recent Super Bowl, celebrating the Philadelphia Eagles' triumph and analyzing Saquon Barkley’s performance.

• Andrew Walsh [27:51]: "Patrick Mahomes threw a lot of interceptions, and I know that the Eagles defense was stifling. I heard they had six sacks and they didn't blitz once."

• Genevieve [26:52]: "It's being normalized, which is one of the things that's so crazy making."

They discuss betting outcomes and the strategic plays that led to the Eagles' dominant performance, highlighting the game's significance in the current political and cultural landscape.

4. Kendrick Lamar’s Halftime Show: Analysis and Impact

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl halftime performance. The hosts dissect his artistic choices, lyrical content, and the cultural statements made during the show.

• Andrew Walsh [28:46]: "Which was like, I have some real thoughts about, actually. Can we get into that?"

• Genevieve [30:31]: "I thought it was really well done. Like, he kept on teasing the beat of 'Not Like Us' and then going to it."

They comment on the visual and thematic elements, such as the absence of white cameos and the portrayal of black patriotism, asserting the performance's role in challenging prevailing sociopolitical narratives.

5. Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar: Feud, Allegations, and Its Ramifications

The conversation shifts to the longstanding feud between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, touching on Internet rumors, legal battles, and the implications for their careers.

• Andrew Walsh [43:16]: "Because I do think that they must have become, in Drake's mind, complicit enough..."

• Genevieve [42:33]: "What were you going on in Surgery? But I was like, welcome back."

They explore allegations against Drake, Lamar's diss tracks, and the influence of their respective labels, pondering the future dynamics of their relationship and individual trajectories in the music industry.

6. Reflections on Current Political Climate: Patriotism and MAGA Culture

Luke and Andrew delve into their frustrations with the current political climate, discussing the lack of grand gestures against the normalization of divisive ideologies.

• Genevieve [48:56]: "What I'm trying to say here is I'm in a very sort of, I don't even, fragile state or upset state."

• Andrew Walsh [49:57]: "It's like. It feels like we need some people even if you're kind of spitting into the wind, it's like you still got to do it."

They express a yearning for influential figures to take a stand, drawing parallels between sports victories and political morale.

7. Life in England: Carvery Culture and Local Experiences

Andrew discusses his experiences navigating England, particularly the concept of carveries, and his intention to immerse himself in local culture despite dietary preferences.

• Genevieve [66:00]: "It's called a carvery. Like, oh, we're gonna get a carvery dinner."

• Andrew Walsh [70:42]: "So I may. I mean the thing that I'm still definitely trying to stay away from is the meat industrial process because I really can't support that."

Their conversation highlights cultural exchanges, ethical considerations in food consumption, and the challenges of adapting to a new environment.

8. Donor Recognition and Personal Anecdotes

The hosts take time to thank their donors and share light-hearted personal stories, including competitive games of darts and foosball, emphasizing the camaraderie that fuels their show.

• Genevieve [61:28]: "Lots of people often refer to it as that. The kind of tropical."

• Andrew Walsh [63:56]: "The last time folks were over. I do think I won all the rounds."

These segments add a personal touch, showcasing the hosts' relationships and the community support behind the podcast.

9. Upcoming Interviews and Closing Remarks

As the episode nears its end, Andrew outlines his upcoming interviews in Liverpool, including a discussion with a pioneer of the Death Cafes movement, and reflects on his travel plans between London and Liverpool.

• Andrew Walsh [74:07]: "And I'm gonna go check out Abbey Road and I'm gonna do all of the like I'm gonna be basic ass be and happily like you know I'm excited to be here..."

• Genevieve [77:30]: "Did you have any desire to even. Because it's like, it's going to be so museumy now and so touristy."

The hosts wrap up with final thanks to their listeners and donors, setting the stage for future episodes filled with adventures and insightful conversations.

---

Notable Quotes:

• Luke Burbank [00:27]: "When he gets loudly, it gets very loud indeed. It's not quite nasal enough the way you're doing it, all right?"

• Andrew Walsh [05:23]: "I had like this diffuse anxiety that was not allowing me to go back to sleep or relax."

• Genevieve [26:52]: "It's being normalized, which is one of the things that's so crazy making."

• Andrew Walsh [28:46]: "Which was like, I have some real thoughts about, actually. Can we get into that?"

• Genevieve [48:56]: "What I'm trying to say here is I'm in a very sort of, I don't even, fragile state or upset state."

---

Conclusion:

Episode #4399 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live offers a rich tapestry of conversations that blend humor, personal anecdotes, cultural critiques, and thoughtful analysis. From grappling with international travel challenges to dissecting high-profile cultural moments like the Super Bowl and Kendrick Lamar's halftime show, Luke and Andrew provide listeners with an engaging and multifaceted listening experience. Their candid discussions about anxiety, political frustrations, and cultural phenomena make this episode a must-listen for both regular followers and newcomers to the show.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Over the years, Michael's voice has come down several. Ok, let me finish. And all of the cigars and the brandy. Don't let me finish. Can now be heard. I've not finished. Right, so Michael Caine's voice. Now, in the Batman movies and in Harry Brown. I can't go fast because Michael Caine talks very, very slowly.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right?

[Luke Burbank]

This is how Michael Caine speaks. Michael Caine speaks to his nose like that. He gets very, very specific. When he gets loudly, it gets very loud indeed. It gets very specific. It's not quite nasal enough the way you're doing it, all right? You're not doing it the way he speaks. You're not doing it with the kind of. And you don't do the broken voice. When he gets very emotional. When he gets very emotional indeed. She was only 16 years old. She was only 60. You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off. That's Michael Caine, tbtm.

[Genevieve]

Now, if you haven't heard of these young men, then you must be the wrong age because they're rock and roll specialists.

[Andrew Walsh]

No one enjoys James Bond more than I do.

[Genevieve]

They're all great movies.

[Andrew Walsh]

There has not been a James Bond movie that's not a 10 out of 10. You proud of that? You proud of that sentence you just said?

[Genevieve]

Yo.

[Andrew Walsh]

You said we was gonna be dancing. You said we was gonna be partying. You said we was gonna be doing what we do. Everyone says great things about you. The posture, the haircut, the tiny feet. It's amazing. They hold you up, but they do. Ah, they do. Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Spock, sabotage the system. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host, oh la la. Coming to you from London's West End. That's right. Very mindful. We are in the United Kingdom my friends, for the first time ever. Actually, I think bringing you at least half of this show from England. It's my first time being here and it's very demure. Strikes me as a very demure, very mindful place that's almost indistinguishable, weather wise from the place where I live, perched high above the mighty Columbia. So it feels familia, as does the fact that we've arrived at episode 4399 in a collector's series, Let the Fun Begin. I made an absolutely critical decision yesterday, a split second decision that changed the course of this entire week for the better. Come on, brain, think of things. Come on, brain be so smart. I'm uncharacteristically proud of my decision making and I want to tell you all about that coming up. Also, yesterday was super bowl and of course you had the game, you had Kendrick Lamar, you had the commercials. Who are the ad wizards who came up with this one? We'll take a look at all of that with this guy. He is the longest running cobra of the show. He might be best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace and their power. He's really here to do one thing on this Monday morning.

[Genevieve]

Here's my sweet stache. Let's freaking party.

[Andrew Walsh]

He's Andrew Welch and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Genevieve]

And I'm almost out of stashes. Not the best beginning of a week ever.

[Andrew Walsh]

But you know, honestly, it's early where you are.

[Genevieve]

It really is.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's late where it's six at night.

[Genevieve]

Here I can get it. And it's like three in the morning where I am. It's bananas. Yeah, I don't know.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right.

[Genevieve]

It's just, it's really weird. No, it's 10:00am and you know, my brain is just waking up. So I'll be hitting my stride probably around the time that I say after these messages.

[Andrew Walsh]

Records.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But how was your. I have no jet lag on my end. Just bad decisions as usual. How. How are you feeling over there across the pond, Luke?

[Andrew Walsh]

I will tell you, the jet lag be hitting different this time versus in the summer when I went to Italy, I think because on that trip we had to push through the whole day. We got there, the hotel was not ready to let us in and so basically did the thing you're supposed to do which is you just try to stay on your normal schedule in whatever the time zone is that you arrive at. This did not work that way. I ended up flying overnight so from basically leaving Seattle on Sunday morning and then flying to New York and then changing planes and then flying here to London and then getting here at like seven in the morning local time or something and then eventually making my way to this hotel and then just like crashing out for a few hours. But like I was. What I realized when I got in the room was because of course this is a different country. My the charger for my laptop which is critical to this mission known as tbtl.

[Genevieve]

Andrew.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, I couldn't plug it into the wall here because it's a different thing. And I have one of those converters. But of course I left it at home? I didn't think. So I was lying on the bed and I was just thinking I need to get up and walk across this small hotel room and pick up the phone and call the front desk and ask them if they keep any kind of chargers or converters around. And I spent at least 1 1/2 hours trying to psych myself up to get up off of the bed and go over and pick up the phone. Have you ever had that kind of jet lag where it's physical, it feels like an 800 pound gorilla is sitting on you? You're not just tired, you're like, you're like tired in a different, weird and only specific jet laggy way.

[Genevieve]

I haven't had a lot of jet lags. I don't travel internationally all that much, but I don't remember that exact feeling. I remember the weird thing for me was when I landed in Croatia and I don't remember the ins and outs of when I slept and when I didn't. But I know I didn't sleep on the plane. And it was many, you know, we traveled across seas of time and time zones and everything. And I remember feeling almost manic by the time I got there. Like, I knew I was physically tired, but my brain was also sort of scrambled in this way that I felt like I really should sleep. But then I was also like, well, maybe I should sleep or maybe I should just pick up this building next to me and throw it into the sea, you know what I mean? I had this weird. I didn't do that. And then I think eventually I laid down and then I think I just conked out like a baby. But let me ask you this. When you describe this feeling of feeling like you have a weight on you and you were laying there and you were trying to psych yourself up for an hour and a half, was that like, like you, you got into your hotel room, you're exhausted. Did you actually crash out? Like actually sleep for a while, then you couldn't motivate after waking up from this nap or you were somewhere in between sleep and being awake. You couldn't move, but you couldn't sleep.

[Andrew Walsh]

I slept for like three hours. It took forever dealing with stuff at the airport. And then the cab ride was, was like. I was actually excited to take a London taxi cab because, you know, famously the London cab driver test is supposed to be like incredibly rigorous. Do you know this whole.

[Genevieve]

No, I didn't know that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe it's a really specific. We have listeners here in the UK that can Explain. It might be a specific brand of cab, but I know that there was a period of time where to be licensed as a cab driver in London, you had to know every single street. Like, it's almost like becoming a sommelier or something. And so first. First of all, they don't really have Lyft here. And Uber was being weird, so I was like, I'll just take it. I'll take a Johnny Cab. No, I mean, I'll take a human cab. So I got in a London taxi and I was all excited about it, but then it was such a. I mean, I'm staying in, you know, a fairly central part of London, as I understand it, but it took for freaking ever to get here from Heathrow. So by the time I got to the room and got checked in and stuff, it was like noon or something. And then I just. Yeah, I just sort of conked out on the bed. Slept for maybe three hours. But then I started having that feeling of like, well, more on this in a minute. Because there was a snafu with my travel out here, which has got me kind of anxious, which is the. My bags, my suitcase did not make it out of New York City.

[Genevieve]

Oh, yeah, I did. Oh, God. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

So I was just kind of like lying on the bed, realizing I have. I'm. I'm wearing this outfit. I have shower, but I'm wearing the same outfit that I put on in Seattle at the Hotel Crocodile at seven in the morning on Sunday, including the same undershirt.

[Genevieve]

You were like a different person then.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, my gosh. I really was. I called it an elevator. No, I called it a trunk of the car.

[Genevieve]

No, but I mean, I will tell you, you might. I mean, that must have felt like when you travel like that and also you're traveling at the end of an event like that, like, it must feel like you're like, who was this guy who put on the sweater all those years ago?

[Andrew Walsh]

I know, it's like, it's like 24 hours ago or whatever, 30 something hours ago, I was standing in this lounge area at the Hotel Crocodile doing this little Livewire presentation, which, by the way, that was really fun. And thank you to everybody who came out to that folks I got to chat with. That was really, really cool. But yeah, then it's like, that's happening. And then all of a sudden I'm just like, here in England and I'm wearing the same shirt because I'm. Right, because I'm, you know, I don't have any other options. So what was Happening basically was I was lying. I slept for a few hours and then I started to feel, and this is not actually the typical for me, I started to feel very anxious, but in this kind of unfocused way that was like, I don't know if I'm gonna have any clothes for this trip. Then how do I solve that? Where do you go? Where do I go buy socks and underwear in this neighborhood? Also, I can't plug my computer in. I know I need it later because I'm doing TBTL with Andrew. I'm also recording some Livewire stuff tonight at the hotel. And I just had this like, I guess diffuse is the way to describe. I had like this diffuse anxiety that was not allowing me to go back to sleep or relax, but I was, I had an 800 pound invisible gorilla standing on my chest. So I was not doing anything about the problem. I was just lying on the bed stressing and then eventually motivated enough to bathe myself and dial up to talk to you.

[Genevieve]

It's interesting to hear your description of that because I think that that is a. I think that that is very situational for you right now. Not that we all don't deal with our own episodes of anxiety or stress and some people deal with it more than others. That type of sort of displaced anxiety or whatever word you just used, or sort of non centralized anxiety, that description sounds like, I think what a lot of people like really struggle with. And that's like, it's a. I don't think that that's. Even though I have a lot of anxiety, I would, I don't think I would describe my usual state of mind in that way. But when I hear about people who really struggle with this stuff, it's kind of like that, it's kind of like I don't even. We talk about this. This sort of sounds a little bit pat, putting it this way, I think. But we talk about it sometimes in terms of cleaning and sometimes on the spotless podcast. And there are some connections for some people between mental health and that. I mean, honestly my, my tip to cleaning is also related to mental health, but I think different than what I'm about to describe, which is like sort of that feeling of like, I know that I need to do something about this mess around me, but I don't know where to begin. And when you, if you, if you use like sort of like lowercase mess there you could be talking about the pile of laundry that's been needed folding for five days, or you could just talk about the mess of your life or the world, you know, as far as how you're looking at things in this particularly bad moment. And that just sounds like a terrible. A terrible thing, like sort of just feeling like there is so much that I need to do right now that I can do absolutely nothing. And that's a bad feeling of paralysis.

[Andrew Walsh]

I will say that the thing that I feel lucky about with that is, for me, it's actually specifically related to stuff. In other words, I don't have my. I don't have any underwear. I'm. Andrew, try to contain yourself. I'm not wearing underwear right now. I am wearing pants. I'll show you.

[Genevieve]

I don't. It's not. Not run any risks.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, listen, why are we using this expensive program, Riverside, if not for me to show you I'm wearing pants? True, in England, but basically I had this anxiety about, like, is this broadcast going to work, you and I, because I'm in England. We haven't ever tried to do it. And I think my understanding of the Internet is it doesn't make a big difference, but it still feels kind of weird, like I'm further away from you. Again, I don't think that impacts anything, but I was like, the nice thing is, like, once my clothes show up, which they have, they. My bag is. Has been at some point identified as just still being in New York. And now British Airways is going to have to get it to London and they're going to have to get it to this hotel. But once I get the bag, that'll be a relief. Now that this seems like it's working, this is a relief. Like, so I feel I'm the good news, as opposed to. There are. There are folks that struggle with anxiety that it's so kind of unfocused and so not about an actual thing. It's that Rick and Morty drop that you and I like to say to each other off air incorrectly, which is like big fat brain misses chewing on big fat problems or whatever. Like, you know, So I think this will. I will feel better once I have my suitcase and once we've got a couple of these broadcasts under our belt. So that's good. At least there's. At least there's something that can be sort of solved for it. Here's the thing, though, dude, I did this. First of all, I have. For somebody who's always complaining about the travel experience, I have probably too much faith in the institutions of travel. Maybe in the institutions of your country, Andrew, and that's your country now. Because I Live in England. So congratulations, I assume the institutions will hold in the US As I was explaining to various people on my flight, which probably is a conversation they were really wanting to get into, I was just huffing on Shout Out Antoinette.

[Genevieve]

I was just huffing on Americana through the Super Bowl. As I just put my. I told Genevieve when she got home from watching the Super Bowl, I was like, I feel like I just put my lips to the tailpipe of jingoism and have just been huffing it for four hours.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was more on that in a moment.

[Genevieve]

I was basically in a bad place by the end of the super bowl, man.

[Andrew Walsh]

When I landed in New York, there was, you know, an hour or two of in between flights where I had my fubo going, had my fubo working, but it just don't work on you. And so I was watching. That's what I was texting, like, oh, good, Brad Pitt has logged on to the discourse. Like, it's just like one. Anyway, let's talk about that in a minute. But this is the thing. This was the. This was the critical thing that I did yesterday morning in Seattle, Washington, at SeaTac that changed the course of this weekendrew. And I cannot underscore this enough, my friend. I. So usually what I do if I'm going on a. Like a. Like a long trip like this. So I have a very large suitcase, like a humongous one that there's no. It would be comical to try to get it onto the plane. It's like we have left the bounds of even trying to pretend you can fit it in that thingy, and it's.

[Genevieve]

Probably going to be wheels on it, like a little wimpy man. As Sylvester Stallone would say, yes, it does have wheels.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I can feel the testosterone ebbing out of me every. Each step I take in the airport, wheeling my luggage.

[Genevieve]

Even wheels now, I mean, I don't have to identify because everybody knows. But that was my imitation of Sylvester.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, that was an actual tape.

[Genevieve]

No, that wasn't.

[Andrew Walsh]

So I basically, like, usually will throw. And I have this recording gear, this microphone, and this little device called a mixpre. It's, like, totally essential to us being able to do this show. And I put all of that stuff in a separate suitcase. I basically created, like, not an emergency bag, but I had the forethought somehow. So I had a very small suitcase, too, that you can just like, easily put in the overhead, whatever the size of the flight you're on plane. And I was like, this is going to have my, like, My, you know, overnight kit, my dopp kit, my deodorant. It'll have the technical stuff for tbt. I was like, I'm just not going to let this stuff out of my sight. Like, this is going to be. If things go sideways, I will have the most essential things that I need, which I can do the show with Andrew and I can brush my teeth. So I was like, so. But then when I was at SeaTac Sunday morning, and I was checking in my big, huge bag, I had a wild hair, which was. I'm just going to check the other bag because, like, I don't want to be dealing with. And then all I have is my little kind of like, computer bag, you know, I'm like, I'm going to check my emergency bag. My emergency suitcase that I had made the decision was never going to leave my person. I decided I was gonna just check it because I don't know. It'll be fine. These things are scanned and tracked and tagged. They just can't go missing. They can't go into the ether. Like, there's just too much. Too much digital tracking on these things. And I put them both up on the thing, and the woman is literally printing out, you know, the various. And this part of the complication is my first leg of my flight was on Alaska Airlines, and from. From Seattle to New York, and then I switched to British Airways, and that seems to be. Now the whole ticket was. It's the same ticket. I bought the ticket through, like, Alaska Airlines. But there seemed to be a little miscommunication between the two airlines and the. My luggage getting on there. But all that is to say, as the woman is like putting the tag on the. We'll call it the emergency bag. I just. As we used to say in the church, a still small voice spoke to me, and I just said, you're gonna want that. You're gonna need that. So I just said, I'm so sorry. Can I just. I'm gonna keep this bag, this smaller bag. And I'll be darned if this is the first time I can remember in years, maybe decades, of my luggage not making it to the place that I'm. That I'm going. And I wanted. Like, I was pretty rung out this morning, as you might imagine. Didn't get a lot of sleep on the flight overnight, was trying to watch the super bowl, was hyping up the crowd on the plane, was a whole thing. And you were trying to hype up.

[Genevieve]

The crowd for the Eagles on the plane.

[Andrew Walsh]

And my bets that I had laid whilst on terra firma in New York.

[Genevieve]

I don't see you as somebody who's trying to engage much with the people around you other than to be kind of polite and make sure that everybody's like, you know, maintaining a. A polite distance or.

[Andrew Walsh]

That was old Andrew. That's. That's American.

[Genevieve]

When you cross.

[Andrew Walsh]

Luke is a freaking riot.

[Genevieve]

You're just like, as soon as wheels.

[Andrew Walsh]

Up out of jfk, I have a totally different person. There's a lightness.

[Genevieve]

You had a hat with two beers in it with straws coming.

[Andrew Walsh]

100%, absolutely. So. But. So anyway, all that is to say, like, I was. I was pretty rung out this morning, but I was. And I wasn't glad that my luggage was lost, but golly, was I glad that I made that decision to hang, because we would be so screwed. We would not be able to do the show. I wouldn't be able to do the Livewire stuff I have to do. I mean, it would just be a mess. And also, I wouldn't have any of my toiletries. I mean, I'm. At least, you know, I. Like I said, I took a shower and I put some deodorant on. I'm feeling a little bit refreshed here. But, like, it's just weird because I. Nine times out of 10, I just would have just said, like, yeah, I'm checking both of these. And then just like, one less thing to deal with. And for some reason, I didn't do that yesterday. And my goodness, that really saved. That really saved this. At least probably. I don't know when. If. When these bags are going to show up. My other suitcase, when it's going to show up. It's still in New York. There's a tracking app. Oh, and that was the other thing, dude. My God. British Airways. The people were actually very nice. The people at the, like, lost luggage counter. Well, not very nice. The nice. Ish. But the system, it was the most comical thing again. Now just imagine I haven't pretty. I really haven't slept in however many hours now. I'm pretty fried. And this woman is going, well, you. You've got to put all your information into this, like, iPad touchscreen thing.

[Genevieve]

Are you doing the accent? Is that the accent?

[Andrew Walsh]

I. I said, hello, Governor, that I'm doing the accent to everyone I speak to here in England.

[Genevieve]

Okay, gotcha.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hello, Governor. It seems my luggage has gone missing.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, as you. Oh, you do that voice and they're just throwing your luggage literally into the room.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did you see that? Did you see the tick tock video? Total Chad hauled out of Heathrow airport for doing offensive accent. So this was so. But again, I, I can't overstate this. It's. I was so tired and I was so. Just wanted to get back to the hotel and try to get a little bit of sleep. I was so burned out that also my luggage is. This suitcase has not made it. She's like, well, you have to punch. You have to put all your information into this touchscreen, this iPad. But like, it doesn't work like if you're trying to hit. So I'm trying to enter in manually my, like all of this information. It would be so much faster if she could type it in. She has a keyboard. She's at a desk.

[Genevieve]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, I'll tell you what it is. And you type a type of type and it goes in instead. It's this wonky iPad that like the number seven doesn't work on it. And like, and you have to touch it. She's showing me you.

[Genevieve]

It's like you have to touch everything like to the left a little bit. Like one of those where seriously, it's like all just like a, a centimeter off. So you have to hit like the. Between the K and the J in order to get the J type of thing.

[Andrew Walsh]

And she knows this because she sits with this thing all day. She's like trying to show me how to like, because I'm just like putting in my phone number and stuff and it's just like not taking them. I'm like hammering the like number three. And she's like, you got to do it like this. And she just like gently puts like her finger up and kind of caresses the number three. Like almost. It's like a whisper of a touch of the number three and it goes on and I'm just like it. I was. Then she's just watching me and then I'm just trying to put stuff in. And then she's like, no, no, you got to go back. You did. And it's like, this is the most insane making process. I'm standing here. I don't know how to operate this iPad, this weird ass British ass iPad. And. And, and for some reason you have to just watch me do it. And by the end, eventually she just had the iPad back or had it, you know, and she was just putting it all in with her special touch because she knew how to do it. But so they, the, the. The stuff has been located. Well, for the first thing not to get too. In the Details of the story. But the first thing is I go over to this aisle or this area, and I talked to a guy and I said, hey, I was on this flight. And he goes, what's your boarding pass? I go, I don't know. I somehow I got on. It feels like I got onto that. The British Airways flight without a boarding pass. Or maybe I left it on the plane. I couldn't find it. So I was like, what were you on before? And we traced it back, and somehow we found the record number, the record locator number for my bag. So, like, we know that it exists. So then he says, well, there's still stuff coming off number nine, so go see if it's there. So I go and I wait. It doesn't come off. I come back and I get this other woman, Angelica, who is the one who's like, you got to type in that. But the first thing she says is, we don't have any record of your. Of your luggage. We have no idea. Like, she's like, it was like an Alaska Airlines thing. You were supposed to bring the tag to British Airways. I was like, how am I supposed to do that? I just. I bought an airplane ticket. I checked my bags. I assumed that the system. Again, too much faith in institutions, Andrew. I just assumed that this thing is getting moved from one plane to another and it's being tracked along with me. Like, this just seems like a pretty doable thing. So she was like, no, we don't have any record of it. And then the guy who would help me before goes, no, no, no. I have it over here. And gives her. Like, if I would have just encountered her first. Yeah, I would have been so hosed. I would have been like. And not for nothing, it's thousands of dollars of clothing in there, including, like, a nice suit that I wear sometimes. It's like, it's. It's all of the stuff that I wear the most. That's why I washed it and brought it with me. So it's just that factor alone would be annoying. Also not having anything to wear. I'd probably have to wear, like, a chimney sweep outfit here, you know, that's all they got.

[Genevieve]

But it's either that or, like, really, really rich British guy with a monocle.

[Andrew Walsh]

Bobby.

[Genevieve]

Or a Bobby. Boy, we used to have Rolling Stones.

[Andrew Walsh]

Or a Keith Moon.

[Genevieve]

You have to dress up like Keith Moon. Is that dynamite in your drum?

[Andrew Walsh]

Sir, did you just drive this car into the swimming pool?

[Genevieve]

I love the fact that there's probably some of our Brit tens who are excited to hear about your adventures. And then they're just like, oh, I don't want to listen to this show anymore.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know. I apologize. I apologize. And I've also done nothing, literally. Like, I got here to the hotel. I've been kind of just sleeping and kind of hibernating in this room, so I don't have any real great experiences to share yet. But. But all that is to say, I am happy that I've got my stuff here, at least the minimal stuff that I need to make the show with you. So that is a good thing. And I. I made some friends on the flight. My whole area, the. The New York to jfk, that was the other thing. I got up upgraded not into, like, first class, but I got upgraded into the, like, less bad coach.

[Genevieve]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

And so that was a little weird because I would never, you know, on those international flights, I'm not. I'm guessing this was the same, you know, style of plane you and Veeves were on, but, like, only on those really big flights is there a middle section. So you've got. You've got the kind of, like, maybe pair of seats that are along the, you know, window, and then you've. In the middle of the plane got this, like, weird kind of landlocked thing, which is my idea of hell, generally. But they upgraded me to this slightly better version of coach, which involved being in the front row of coach, so nothing in front of you, like, just a wall, but you have plenty of leg room. So I had been like. My seat that I had selected before was this whole strategy where I was trying to pick a window seat, but at the kind of way back of the plane, so maybe no one would sit in the middle. I was trying to just get a free, like, middle, empty middle seat between me and some random stranger. But then the person in New York was like, well, you got upgraded, if you want to this, like, better version of coach. And I was like, but it means that now I'm sitting the very front of coach, and I'm in that middle section, but I'm, like, on the aisle, if you can picture that.

[Genevieve]

I can.

[Andrew Walsh]

So I immediately sit down, and there's two. Actually, it's two sisters and their brother. They're all flying back to London. They were visiting New York and having a fun time. And we were chatting it up, and they were to my left, and then to my right was another young person from London who had been in Boston for work. And basically, I got the WI fi going, and I put, I'm Watching because we're still just like, taxiing. So I'm on my FuboTV and I'm watching the beginnings of the super bowl. And the woman to my right looks over and says, oh, is that the Super Bowl? I said, yeah. And so I put my phone up on. There was like a little ledge on the front of this wall of Coach. And I, like, put my phone up and then we're all watching the super bowl on my phone. And by all of us, I mean these like, four people in my immediate area. And I've of course told them all, I'm like, listen, we got. The Eagles have to win this. Just we got to get a W. And again, I was thinking about this today when I knew we were going to talk about it, which is, I know we have listeners. We have amazing listeners in Kansas City and we have like, I'm sure they're heartbroken today and I'm really, really sorry for you. And I was a big Chiefs fan for many years. I think there has been a lot of success. And, you know, I felt like there was something like we, the. We the we the we the people of America who don't agree with the current political situation, we need some kind of a W somewhere. And I swear to God, the Eagles winning. And again, no shade to anybody in Kansas City, but somehow the Eagles winning, however, trumped up this whole Jalen hurts has, you know, female representation or whatever. It somehow just became like the people who are pretty cool with Trump versus the guy whose entire management team is. Is all women. And somehow that became the narrative in my mind, I think, in a lot of people.

[Genevieve]

And there just would have been a lot of tomahawk chopping and everything if that game hadn't even been a blowout. If it is even close, There would have been probably 100% more shots of a crowd full of people wearing red throwing their hands in the air and doing something that I find pretty offensive, like just being saved from that, and certainly saved from that celebration was huge.

[Andrew Walsh]

But so this was the thing that was happening. And this is how I ended up watching the super bowl, which was the. It would work for a little while and then it would just kind of freeze up and then it would just be. So we were just sitting there for hours. Like, it was like we were watching the game. We're all watching it on my phone and we're like high fiving when the Eagles go up, like seven nothing. And then it just like the wi fi just does not support it for whatever reason. For I don't know, 20 minutes. So now we're just making small talk, we're chatting, and then all of a sudden, it kicks on and the Eagles are up 24, nothing. And there's jubilation in row 30 of British Airways Flight 176. We're all, like, high fiving and freaking out, and everybody's like. Because basically nobody on the flight cared much one way or the other. But then when they learned that I was really wanting the Eagles to win, I'm trying to explain why the Saquon Barkley bet I had down was plus 1000. It's because he needed to both run in a touchdown and catch a touchdown. I did not win that bet, but I did win the Eagles Moneyline bet, obviously.

[Genevieve]

What did he get for yardage? Do we know? Not that we have to turn today's show into that, but, like, everybody was like, well, he hit that one. 50. Well, he hit 150. He couldn't have gotten even close. Right. Did he even get.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't. See. This is the thing.

[Genevieve]

Oh, you wouldn't. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

I am very. What I know is that. What I know is that Patrick Mahomes threw a lot of interceptions, and I know that the. The Eagles defense was stifling. I heard they had six sacks and they didn't blitz once, which is.

[Genevieve]

Yes. Yes. Isn't that bananas?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And so. But. But it was. But. So it was a bizarre experience because I was. I was in a certain way watching it with a crowd, with a crowd of people, like I was at a Super bowl watching party. But what we were allowed to watch was four minutes at a time, separated by 20 minutes of total blackout. But it was. It ended up being fun. And of course, I was happy that the Eagles won. I was happy that my. My bet paid off and stuff, but it was. And then we were trying to watch the, you know, the Kendrick Lamar halftime show, which I have some real thoughts about, actually. Can we get into that?

[Genevieve]

Sure. I just want to say I was very proud. I did Saquon Barkley 57 yards yesterday, and I estimated 50. As I said the word 50, I was like, am I going to be grossly wrong here? And I'm going to have to beep it out later in the show. But no.

[Andrew Walsh]

Was that because that's the way to not draw attention to it?

[Genevieve]

Exactly.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's a long, sustained beep. Did Andrew have an aphasia?

[Genevieve]

It's not that big of a deal. It's not an interesting place to take it. I just know that one of the major storylines going into this wasn't even like, I mean, obviously who will win and who will lose, but, like, what will Saquon Barkley do? And will he get that Hunter? I don't know why 150 was the line. I don't know if that was a record or what. But, like, everybody's like, will he get 150 yards? And then, I don't know, because they just were able. The Chiefs defense was just ready for it, I guess. And so even though the Eagles did really well, they pretty much shut down Saquon Barkley. He broke through a couple of times. I remember one, like, 15 yarder or something like that. So that's the only reason I bring that up.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I. This. I'm also wondering if, you know, the game got out of hand so quickly that if it just kind of changed some of the play calling and some of the dynamics, all that would generally tend towards more running place, which I think would benefit Saquon. But yeah, but no, it was like a fun, weird way to watch it. But then we were watching the. We actually got pretty good coverage of the Kendrick Lamar halftime thing, which. Which was also an interesting way because this. We don't have the volume up. We just have. It's just like Kendrick Lamar, you know, doing his thing, and we're all commenting on it. We're all having this big conversation, but none of us are listening to him because I have the volume down on the phone. I'm not like, blasting, you know, the actual audio of this thing. So it's kind of a closed caption sort of process. But I went back and rewatched it, and I read the many pieces written about it, including somebody in the New York Times trying to make the case that the big takeaway from the super bowl was he wore bell bottoms.

[Genevieve]

Everybody said that's the number one takeaway from his halftime show. Everybody's like, bell bottoms, bell bottoms. Everybody's freaking out about bell bottoms being back. And by the way, I thought going.

[Andrew Walsh]

On than bell bottoms.

[Genevieve]

I thought it was a really. I thought cool look, actually, that he did have. And I did notice the bell bottoms. But I was really thought it was funny that, like, wow, that's the main takeaway from this is the bell bottom.

[Andrew Walsh]

Here's the thing, though. I went back and watched it. I like his beat. Like, his opening stuff. This is just my opinion. And this is. I told you. It's a hot, hot take. It's a spicy take here on this Monday morning. That's why people turn to Us the show of record when it comes to halftime, super bowl halftime shows. I think some of Kendrick Lamar's rapping is kind of. Is like, bad. It's sort of. It's. It's kind of like bad slam poetry. Like, it's not particularly well constructed to me. Like, lyrically, like, Not Like Us is such a catchy song. It's crazy catchy. Like, and. And I get why it's so popular. And I love that song. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I love listening to it. It's a bop. But, like, when he's starting out, it's like, I didn't. It, like, literally the first, like, minute of what he was doing, when he's like, on the car talking, it's like, this sounds like 11th grade poetry to me. This is not good. Like, it's just so. And then the other thing is, I was. I was listening to the Daily this week about the beef between Kendrick Lamar and Drake, and here's something that I did not realize until they were interviewing the correspondent for the Times. There are no credible allegations against Drake of pedophilia. Like, that's an Internet rumor. Like, it is. There's. No, there are. No, there are not lawsuits. There is not an investigation into him. It's some Internet bullshit. And you've got like, America singing probably a minor. Like, and. Which is like, I kind of feel like is sort of gross. Like, we're accusing this. Listen, he's. He's a cornball, but we're accusing him of being a pedophile because some Internet rumor that tends to dog any really famous person, like, that's kind of weird to me.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, I don't feel that way. I mean, I think that it is an Internet rumor.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is a pedophile.

[Genevieve]

Do I think Drake is a pedophile? Probably not. I think these dated underage girls. I think he's. I think these. There are. There's, you know, plenty of photos of him with, like, extremely young women compared to his age. And I'm sure, like, would you be shocked to hear that? So I think that's what it is. And, like, we're breaking down. I mean, that's the whole thing about this rap battle is he went to court, which is sort of a. It's. It's a rap battle. People say stuff like, are you.

[Andrew Walsh]

But like, Peter, I think that their case is. I think his case is that pedophilia is a. Is a. Is a hard line because people that just could really, like, that's different than your, you know, he called Kendrick Lamar short or something. I think that's his argument.

[Genevieve]

So I don't do. Your question for me is, do I think Drake is a pedophile? I guess I'm not well read up on that enough. But I also just don't. I think that just sort of is not the question on my mind right now. I thought that was an incredible performance. I thought the way that he kept teasing it, like, again, there aren't a. I mean, you can gin up any kind of, like, sort of storyline, but I thought the way he handled it, like, is going into the super bowl, like, will he play that song? Is it inappropriate? There's a lot of questions about that. Teasing it with the beat, like, that was really effective for me. I can't remember a time when, I mean, again, I had a lot going on kind of emotionally that I brought to the super bowl, which was just like. Again, like, seeing all of this patriotic stuff and having the dictator there and just, like, just. I was just in a really, really bad place. So then just seeing Kendrick Lamar's like, sure, just like, very black, very. Standing in front of this crowd and doing his own version of patriotism was, like, really moving to me. Like, that was amazing. Yeah, you needed that. I needed that. And then, like, I thought it was really well done. Like, kind of. He kept on teasing the. He kept on teasing with the beat of Not Like Us and then going to it. Like, I just thought, like, as far as a performance is concerned, I was sitting there. My. I don't. I was texting with a buddy. I'm like, my heart is racing right now. Like, I think that was a top. I would say, for me, I've been trying to think about it. Not that I have to rank everything, but when I talk about super bowl performances and rank them, I mean, during my era of watching and caring about the Super Bowl. So unfortunately, that takes Prince out of it. Like, I only know Prince's performance as a sort of historic performance, you know?

[Andrew Walsh]

What about the Blues Brothers?

[Genevieve]

The Blues Brothers is probably number one. That's where I always get. When was that? I don't even know. Was that, like.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't even remember. I just saw somebody on TikTok ranking the worst super bowl halftime shows, and they said, the Blues Brothers. And I was like, the Blues Brothers were the soup. And obviously it wasn't Belushi. I mean, it wasn't John Belushi. He would have been. I. I don't think John Belushi was maybe. I think it might have been either. Jim Belushi.

[Genevieve]

Oh, it was the.

[Andrew Walsh]

Or was it John Goodman? I don't know. I'm a little worried about searching for things on my computer now, but was there a Blues Brothers super bowl performance that involved a fill in for John Belushi?

[Genevieve]

Well, there was a second Blues Brothers movie where, which I think you know, which John Goodman played, which is why you said that. So I don't, this is the first I'm hearing about this. So, so I'm not exactly sure when or where that was.

[Andrew Walsh]

But I hear what you're saying though. I hear, I hear what you're saying. Like I think this has to do with the difference in like how we were experiencing like again, I'm on an airplane, it's kind of muted. Then I watched it later at the hotel room and again I did really like that song. Slaps. I think I've just had it in my head since I listened to this episode of the Daily where they're breaking it down, you know, in the way the New York Times does the whole origins of the fight. And then I will just admit that like. So, Natalie Kitchrow, if the interviewer was asking, I think it's Joe Cascarelli, the music writer, are there any allegations of pedophilia against Drake? Are there any credible allegations? And he says absolutely not. And something inside me just shifted because I just kind of assumed that there was something going on that that was a known thing that we're, he's getting outed on. And then John, Joe Cascarelli was saying, basically what's happened is Drake is really famous. And when you're really famous on the Internet, there will always be some websites that are talking about how you're like some kind of a groomer, some kind of a trafficker, some kind of a whatever and like that. I don't know why I just had not done any research on it. And so hearing that made me just think again, I don't like, I'm not, I'm not trying to defend Drake except on any level. Except for the fact that it would really kind of suck if, if you know, and he's a big boy, he can handle it and he's very wealthy and whatever. By the way, his lawsuits were kind of interesting. I don't know if you've read in on it.

[Genevieve]

Can I just say one other thing though? I mean it's just sort of, I guess the problem I'm having answering this and I just need to think about it more is kind of like I would almost argue that the if we're going to be breaking down, like, was this fair? Is like, what about Kendrick literally putting a Google Maps image of where Drake lives and essentially put. I mean, the history of rap battles. And again, I'm not defending them here is like literally putting targets on people. Actually somebody. Oh, there was a wonderful post I saw in Blue sky yesterday that said something like, nobody has lost a rap battle this badly, and that includes people who have been shot and killed over rap battles. So anyway, like, I'm not trying to be callous about it, but it's just sort of like, well, I don't know, at what level are we. Are we analyzing this. Are we analyzing this in the history of rap battles and in that genre, or are we analyzing it in terms of like, New York Times fact checking? You know what I mean? Like, that. That's just not kind of. Those are two very different ways to approach what is fundamentally what is going on between these two performers. And maybe the whole. Maybe that whole idea of a rap battle is just like, dangerous and it should be. Maybe. Maybe we should all just moralistically sort of say there's no place for. But it is what it is. And I was read up on it. I'm also just a really big fan. I mean, I'm not a really big fan, but like, Kendrick Lamar's not his first record, but that. That kind of breakout. And again, it's very slam city with that one. I mean, I loved some of the tracks off of that, but the one that I listened to as an album over and over and over was To Pimp a Butterfly, which definitely gets you poetry, stuff that you probably wouldn't be totally into, but, like, it was the first record that I had heard in a long time where I was obsessed with the whole thing because it, It's. It's. What's the word I'm looking for? It's sort of cyclical. Like, it. The album ends exactly where it begins, sort of. So you could literally put it on a loop and it almost never ends. Like, there was just a lot about that record and where I was at the time, and it just touched me in the certain way back when I was living in la and like, so it meant so much to me. I'm not like Ride or die for all of his stuff. In fact, his next album, damn, like, it was a little bit hit or miss for me. The Big Stepper, whatever that one was. Like, I had kind of not a lot of use for that one because I felt like it wasn't really for Me, but generally speaking, I am very intrigued and very into the brand of him. So maybe I'm a little bit already there.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's. And that's something that they were on this episode of the Daily were saying that has been interesting about it, is that Kendrick Lamar is not a person who was really into like getting into Internet fights with other rappers. And that's Drake's whole thing. And you know, Drake is seen as this kind of sort of maybe slightly fake person or whatever, or like a. A chameleon. And he's always getting into it with people. And then Kendrick Lamar, we just kind of had his head down, just like making music that was really, really about the lyrics and really about, you know, Compton and his life, etc. And so the idea that like Drake went and like basically picked this fight and then just got utterly. And I mean, I'm. I'm not disagreeing with that. I mean, this was like, this was an. A defenestration of Drake's very soul.

[Genevieve]

You know, where do you think he watched. Do you think he watched it live?

[Andrew Walsh]

I was wondering about, like, I think everybody was like, where is bomb shelter somewhere?

[Genevieve]

I mean, just think about that. And honestly, that I don't even take that much pleasure. And by the way, I don't fully hate Drake. Like, I don't really care that much. Although, I mean, obviously I think that, you know, I think this whole thing is kind of funny. But like, I think. Has there ever been a time when, like, I mean, people have been humiliated before. I do it to myself daily on the show. People have been humiliated on grand stages before, but how many people have had the experience of whatever Drake experienced yesterday with a crowd of thousands of people saying that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Let's add this to the list. Andrew. Let's get the harp music, sir.

[Genevieve]

The harp music. Let's take you back to.

[Andrew Walsh]

Take you back to two Sundays ago when it was the Grammy Awards and Kendrick Lamar was winning. I want to say like five Grammys for much of it surrounding the song, you know, Not Like Us. And you have the entirety of, you know, your, Your, Your community that. You got your Taylor Swifts, you've got your, you know, I can't. That's Rihanna probably there. I can only name three famous singers you've got, like. And they are all in this room at the Grammys bouncing and saying probably a minor, like, what a. To weaponize that song in that way so that Drake's like all the people that, you know, six years ago he's at the Grammys or five years Ago or four years ago, he's at the Grammys. And now it's like everyone there is singing a song about how he's a chimo. Like, it's wild.

[Genevieve]

And also, like, Will, I was thinking about this last night. Like, will he ever. Like, Drake has to release another album at some point, right? And if he does, he can't just ignore this. So he has to respond in some way. But. But what we've learned, and I think that he must realize now is however he responds is going to be weak. T. Right. Like, there's just nothing he could ever possibly do that would raise to this. So in a certain way, I mean, maybe he releases something introspective and actually maybe like, maybe actually just eat some shit. Like, I don't know, maybe he could do that. He's kind of emo. I just don't know. Where do you go from here? This is your. You go back to Fast Times at Ridgemont. No, I messed it up. You go back to Degrassi High, the reunion. I don't know.

[Andrew Walsh]

You go back to Wheels, Ontario.

[Genevieve]

Back to Wheels, Ontario. Like, I just don't know what Drake does now.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, I was having this thought the other day when I was listening to that episode of the Daily that like, essentially when he filed a lawsuit, I think he was retiring from rap music because, like, his basic. And I do think the lawsuit is kind of interesting because part of the case is, you know, he has the same. He's on the same label as Kendrick. They're both on umg. And one of his arguments is UMG knew that. That Drake's contract was coming up and they were about to re sign his contract. And they knew that if they let Kendrick Lamar just absolutely pwn him in the public space, it would. It would drive down Drake's value so they could sign him for a smaller deal. That's one of the contentions in the.

[Genevieve]

I heard that I knew that they were on the same label and that there were some issues with that, but I did not know that that was one of the. Which is an interesting allegation, but I. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And you know, like, why would we.

[Genevieve]

Oh, sorry, go ahead. What are they like?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, nothing. Just that UMG is like, why would we try to devalue one of our most, you know, valuable assets, that is Drake?

[Genevieve]

And who would think that Kendrick would ever listen to a record label that tells him not to say something? And also, these were diss tracks. I don't think they were officially released on the label. Right. Like, I don't think that this, when they were like, swapping this stuff. Like, like, I think they were both just going into their studio and just like, releasing things online that some of it end up to Spotify. But I don't think it was going through the usual, like, label process.

[Andrew Walsh]

I, I, I know what you mean. Although I do think that they, they must have, they must have become, in Drake's mind, complicit enough, according to the guy that I was listening to from the Times to where, like, they mentioned that cover that you mentioned, this, like, aerial photo of Drake's house with these, like, flags on it that are indicating where like, child predators are or something or whatever like that. Basically Drake. But, but here's the other thing. Drake is not suing Kendrick Lamar. He's suing the label.

[Genevieve]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Which I also think is funny because I feel like it, if he were to sue Kendrick Lamar directly. I mean, the capitulation, I mean the, the sheer, the sheer grandma driving you home from the battleness of that, it's just like impossible to quantify. So, yeah, I, I don't think there's any way he can come back from. I think he really was like, look, he's mad. He feels like he's getting done wrong. He thinks that he actually has some legal standing to make money off of this and figured, you know, if I'm gonna never gonna be a hot rapper again, at least I could have a hundred million dollars in my pocket from this lawsuit. Like, or maybe not. Maybe he's like, I'm Drake. I will be able to figure this out. But I would. Yeah, it seems really, really hard to come back from. And again, just the idea that, like, this song is a hit and then everybody likes singing the song about how you suck. And again, it's all of these people that you maybe have collaborated with or would like to collaborate with or hold in high esteem. I'm talking about the Grammys now. I mean, and then you're right, Andrew. Cut to the largest television event in the world, whatever it is, 100 million people or something watching Super Bowl. You cannot, on this planet. With the current alignment of how humans are, you can't find a bigger stage than Kendrick had to do this. Like, I actually was like out of my mind yesterday thinking, would it have been amazing if he brought Drake out?

[Genevieve]

Yeah, well, there was like a beef squash, right? Yeah, there was some, there was some, like, not rumor, but, like, speculation of that. Like, leading up to this. Here's what I, you know, I did not plan on necessarily taking the conversation here, but as we're talking about it just sort of feels like a natural thing to maybe bring up is obviously I haven't done a lot of reading. I haven't done any reading actually of Kendrick's performance yet sort of post morte of it. I just was like in the moment, like kind of of enraptured by it. And obviously it was a bit. There were, you know, like by having Samuel L. Jackson as Uncle Sam and everything, like, there was a natural. That was really cool. Truth to power. I thought it was really interesting that like, literally not one, not one white cameo, not one white dancer. Like, it was a. It was a celebration of blackness, which I thought was like, really important where we are right now. But you also need to know, like, I'm coming into this, like watching this shit with the navies flying their planes above hand showing Trump and like, you know, I know that he is technically the president. Technically, no, I know that he won the election and is the President of the United States. I'm not trying to pull. I'm not trying to pull what they were pulling four years ago. But my point is I'm, I think I can almost say literally sickened by the state of affairs right now. And one thing that I think is confusing me is, and I want to make this very clear, this conversation can spin out of control really fast here, but I'm not doing anything other than being sick. Right? Like, so I'm not trying to like, say, why isn't anybody doing anything? But I did see, you know, like, I think you probably saw this to a post by Chuck Schumer a while back saying, right to your lawmakers about pizza. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if it was the pizza one, but it's like, make sure you're writing to your lawmakers and like, somebody was like, lawmaker to voting public. Write to your lawmakers. Like, what is going on? Like, yeah, is it. It just sort of feels like. And I don't know what I want people to do and I don't know what I should be doing. And I know I'm going to get a lot of emails with addresses of my lawmakers that I should write to. So what I'm trying to say here is I'm in a very sort of, I don't even know, fragile state or upset state. Just generally speaking right now, as I think a lot of people are, I will be the first one to say that there's. I'm not taking a lot of action on that other than just like, sort of just trying to sort of figure out existentially how this all is going to play out and my role in it. But there are things that might not even make a difference in the grand scheme of things that I'm just surprised I'm not seeing. And I'm like. I was like, when I saw John Bautista, I was just kind of like, did anybody think maybe I should boycott this? Maybe the day before, say, I'm not gonna do it because Trump is here and this will be. This will catch the attention of the country if I don't do the national anthem and if I say why. You know what I mean? Sometimes there just doesn't seem to be anybody doing any grand gestures and saying, the reason we're doing this grand gesture is because we're not talking about the democracy burning around us. And that's why I told you I didn't want to do the show today. And you're like, you're just hungover. And I was like, no, it's about patriotism. You're like, you got to do the show today, Walsh.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, because he's probably hungover.

[Genevieve]

Anyway. I don't. Do you. Is anything I'm saying landing? Because I'm just kind of surprised there are not any grand gestures. And I just sort of feel like I was talking to somebody this weekend who's like a long, long, long time friend of mine. I don't want to. He could hear this. So I'm not trying to castigate him, but he's, you know, he's got a family, but he is the person who, when we were young, I didn't care about world events. I didn't think anything outside of my bubble. He's kind of the man who taught me how to think more globally. And when I talked to him this weekend, he's like, I'm just trying to take care of my family. Like, that's all we can do. Like, just like, don't look at the news as much. And I was just like, we're just beaten down. Like, nobody's making. Even if the grand gestures are just silliness. Like, I could use a grand gesture right now. I could use somebody saying, I could use Kendrick saying, I'm out of here if that man is watching me. I could see somebody just saying, like, I will not share a space with this dictator. And I'm just. We're just not getting any of that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I keep seeing these headlines like, where are the Democrats? You know, and then I don't read the article because It'll make me.

[Genevieve]

I know. Which is like such a. I know.

[Andrew Walsh]

Such a messed up reaction, but you know what I mean? That's. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's like. It's like. It feels. Yeah, it feels. It feels like we. We need some people. Even if. Yeah, even if you're kind of spitting into the wind, it's like you still got to do it. We still. It would be nice to see some very public, very kind of awkward making. Well, I did see a picture of a Kansas. This. You know what? Shout out to the Kansas City Chiefs fan who just threw up the biggest double bird ever to Donald Trump at the game. There's this picture. Did you see Trump, like, looking.

[Genevieve]

Are you sure that wasn't the old one? Because there's a famous one from a while back and a lot of that stuff is being regurgitated in the Internet. Maybe you might have seen a new one, but just be careful about that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Because I'm pretty sure I might have got got, but. Well, whenever it happened in time and space, this Kansas City Chiefs fan throwing up a double bird to Donald Trump, it was, I salute you, sir. We need more people like you. Now, I will tell you, Andrew, as far as grand gestures go, I can confirm that Rob Lowe did wear his NFL hat yesterday.

[Genevieve]

Did he really? Oh, I didn't see that. God, I was so locked in. When was that pre game that you saw it?

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I had to do some sleuthing. I was on like a weirdo TikTok. As I was trying to summon the courage to get up off the bed today and walk across the room, I started scrolling TikTok. It's a lot more British over here. Tell you what. Oh, yeah, it's aware that I'm in England.

[Genevieve]

You're for you has sort of changed to more British stuff. Stuff.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, you know, you're just going through so much content. It's just. I mean, it would be really shocking to actually quantify it. But like, I would say, you know, one out of every 10 videos might be some British person doing like a funny British thing that I don't think I would have necessarily gotten, you know, in the States. But so somebody was at the super bowl and she was saying, what a random assortment of celebrities. Because she was in one of those luxury boxes and she scrolls with her phone over to this other luxury box that had like, Jon Hamm in it, Gordon Ramsay, Nick Cannon, and then she just mentions in passing, oh, and Rob Lowe. And you don't just see that Rob Lowe's wearing a black hat. That's all you can see. And I'm like, I gotta figure out what's going on with this rotation. So then I went and found these others, like Rob Lowe, Super Bowl 2025, and there he is with his NFL hat.

[Genevieve]

That's really cool, actually, because at this point, of course he knows. I think he's been on late night shows talking about it. Right. Like, it's obviously a. Yeah, it was a huge.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love now has to do that.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, I kind of want to do that. Like, I wonder mlb, I honestly wonder if NFL hats is like just the shield hats with just the shield.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's kind of where you're going.

[Genevieve]

Yeah. Oh, me?

[Andrew Walsh]

In a way.

[Genevieve]

I mean.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think on the one hand you. You rightfully. You decry the overall thing that is the NFL. But then also are you're more about like being excited for Lamar Jackson or being excited for this team or that team, as opposed to like living and dying by how the Cleveland Browns are doing.

[Genevieve]

Right.

[Andrew Walsh]

So you're almost kind of more of a fan of the idea of football or good football being played.

[Genevieve]

Yeah. You know, one thing that I heard, and I'm blanking on her name now, but do you remember that the Browns had a coach? It was the first female NFL coach. She was an assistant coach. You might not have followed it. I don't know how big of a story it was. It was still when I was watching the Browns, so at least three seasons ago, but I think like maybe more five seasons ago or something. And Sarah Spain, I can't remember her name is Carrie something, but Sarah Spain, the. The espn, you know, host and commentator or whatever, personality has a podcast and I saw her promoting that. Carrie, this coach was going to be on it and I had a feeling that there was going to be more sizzle than steak. And this one that said something like. And she'll talk about what it was like working on a team with the. When there's a controversial player on it or something like that. It was like just sort of a promo and a tweet. And I was like, I'll bite. And I gotta say, most of the interview was not about that. Like you could really feel, especially you and I being me, sort of in this industry, you can sort of tell when you want somebody on the show because you want them to talk about one hot button topic. But you can tell that there was an agreement in advance that we're not gonna go too deep on this. And we're gonna celebrate women's sports and the other slightly more fluffy side of things. You can sort of tell that she was like. Sarah was sort of probably allowed one question on this and the going to say what she was going to say. But the one thing that she did say, which was not a lot, but she did sort of point to Andrew Barry and Stefanski. What's the Browns coaches name? She. She just sort of alluded to, she said, I will. Kevin Stefanski. Thank you. She just said, I will just say that there were good people in the room and she called them out specifically. So I don't know exactly what was going on behind the scenes there, but I've always sort of, why are we talking about the Browns? I'm so sorry. I just. I just caught myself where we are. What are we doing? You're in England and it's the day after the super bowl and I'm talking about Kevin Stefanski behind the scenes. But I don't know, I just always liked that guy.

[Andrew Walsh]

That just felt like you just. You just woke up in the middle of surgery.

[Genevieve]

I told you I'd wake up by the end of the show.

[Andrew Walsh]

You surfaced. I need more, by the way. 5cc.

[Genevieve]

Yeah. But anyway, I was glad to hear it. If there's any truth to that and if this woman was somebody who was very concerned about this issue, which I believe she would be. And she specifically said, there's not a lot I can say about this, but there were good people in the room. And I want to shout out Kevin Stefanski. That made me feel good to know that, because I want to like Kevin Stefanski and I was hoping that he was not somebody who was pushing to have Deshaun Watson come to the team. I mean, I think that maybe he just had to. To play the hand he was dealt. It's a card term, Luke. I don't know if you're familiar.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, would a person unfamiliar with cards have googled London casinos already? Yeah, I actually have not done that.

[Genevieve]

It's in Little America.

[Andrew Walsh]

Little America. Little Vegas. Sure. Great. I feel like the. Again, I don't want to put too much on this and I don't, you know, again, I just keep thinking about our listeners in Kansas City or who are Kansas City fans and. And they're just awesome, lovely people. And I don't want it to feel like I'm trying to make them the villain in this at all. But it did feel like. And you're right, I mean, I started by saying I was a little. The actual, very Opening of the Kendrick thing, the lyrics were struck me as a little, maybe slam poetry for me. But that being said, like, the Eagles winning really took on a big importance to me as being like, we got. There has to be like, the idea of like, the Chiefs winning and like, you know, Brittany Mahomes, like, high fiving Donald Trump, as it happens. It just was just too much for.

[Genevieve]

Me to see that.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm just, I just know that she's on the record as being pro Trump. Yeah, yeah. What's happening is all these people are coming out of the woodwork, you know, and like, yeah, they were, I think, rightfully ashamed the first time around, but now they're totally emboldened. Just be like, whatever. It's being normalized, which is one of the things that's so crazy making. But like, I had this real thought. I was like, I wonder if the Eagles winning the super bowl and Kendrick Lamar performing at halftime, if this could usher in a series of W's for us. And I don't know what that looks like, but like, we need, we needed something to go right. And the Eagles winning the super bowl, was that something going right? Like, and the analogy I keep using with people is like, I feel like if you flip a coin 50 times, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's unlikely, but it's possible that it could just go heads 49 of the 50 times and you just be like, what is going on with this? But if you do that a thousand times, it's going to end up being roughly 500 to 500. It's going to regress to the mean. And I feel like we're in a moment where the coin just keeps freaking coming down. Donald Trump, you know, and it's just. I, But I don't think that is the permanent state of things. I think there will be W's for, for, for, you know, good people of, of, of. Of good conscience in this country. And again, I'm clearly grasping that's why I would make the super bowl into something like this. But it felt to me like maybe this could usher in, you know, this can usher in some W's. I don't know. I don't, I don't think it's literally connected to politics, but it's like if, to take it back to the football thing, sometimes your team plays really bad in the first half and then they come out in the second half and like, they do the kickoff and the other team muffs the kick and you suddenly get the ball. And it's all of a sudden, like, you're, like a different team. Like, well, you score a touchdown, your defense gets it together. Suddenly your offense is clicking. Like, things are streaky. I think I'm like, life is streaky. Games are streaky to some degree. Politics is streaky. And it's just been a really, really bad streak of late, but I could see the streak changing, you know, and that's. Again, this is just stuff that I invent to keep myself from, you know, fully falling into the void. But I felt like, man, maybe. Maybe the Eagles would do the super bowl handily with a black quarterback in a historically very black city of New Orleans, with Kendrick Lamar playing, doing it in their.

[Genevieve]

Their support.

[Andrew Walsh]

All these MAGA people.

[Genevieve]

Aren't both quarterbacks black in this case?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah. Mahomes as well. Yeah, yeah, good point. I guess. I just. Somehow the Eagles became. They took on this like. It's like they might as well have been starting Colin Kaepernick for my money. Like, we just need. The Eagles need to represent everything that's pushing back against MAGA culture in my mind. So, anyway, just.

[Genevieve]

Are you saying what I think you're saying, which is that Baker Mayfield will be hoisting the Lombardi Trophy this time next year? Is that what I'm hearing? This is starting. This is the first domino.

[Andrew Walsh]

It starts now. This is the first domino. Second domino is I get my underwear back from British Airways. And the third domino is Baker Mayfield wins the Super Bowl.

[Genevieve]

Okay, listen, I think we need to take a break for a couple of reasons, because of the time and because I have a technical issue here that I will tell you about during the break that I need to fix before. Before I run out of batteries on a backup recorder. But when we come back, I'm confused about something that is fundamental to everything that we've talked about, which is why you're in England, and if there's a chance that you're going to have to show up for whatever your work event is in clothes that are not proper or whatever, because we haven't really talked about what the end game here is and what the most possible embarrassing situation for you could possibly be. So I'd like to delve into that. Thank you for being a. All right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Let's thank some donors. I was having a. A conversation over the weekend, Andrew, at the Hotel Crocodile event with a listener. I think Pete. And Pete was saying that Pete's kids, Blithe and Elise, they. They were. They were under the impression. The. The wrong impression. Andrew that we do not play the razzle dazzle music anymore. We do play the razzle dazzle music. It's for the dazzling donors, which we're actually not far out from getting to the dazzling donors.

[Genevieve]

I think maybe starting next week we're going to start reading those dazzling donor messages. Those are folks who donate at a dazzling level and we read any kind of personalized messages. If you're somebody who is in that category and you think you have not had the opportunity to submit your message yet, check your email. John has been sending out those emails. Maybe even check your spam folder. But yeah, dazzling right around the corner. But we also have a bunch of daily donors today that keep this thing rolling.

[Andrew Walsh]

And that is folks like Joey Capochia of Kilauea, Hawaii.

[Genevieve]

Nice. Thank you, Joey. I recognize that name. Joey's been donating for a while now. Thank you, Joey.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thanks, Joey. Thanks. Patty Hollingsworth of Auburn, Washington. It's kind of the Kilauea of the Auburn Valley. I think a lot of people often refer to it as that. The kind of tropical. If you're going to be down in Auburn, in that area, what do they call that, Kent? Auburn.

[Genevieve]

I don't, you know, I was gonna say that's not an area that I have spent a lot. It's an area that I have not spent enough time in. I will put it that way.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, this is because you have not been working on your friendship with Sir Mix a lot who famously lived in Auburn. I don't know if he still lives there, but he, but he did live there for a long time.

[Genevieve]

He usually comes up to my place because I got an.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, well, that's. I've noticed that's kind of your move. It's like you got to bring the mountain to Muhammad.

[Genevieve]

That's right.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's gonna come to your place.

[Genevieve]

It is true. I did that. A coup. It wasn't this weekend. It must have been last weekend. I just sort of like I feel like doing something, but I don't feel like leaving. Can everybody just come here and we can all just like drink beer and listen to records? Like that's very much. That's very much 22 year old Andy in effect there.

[Andrew Walsh]

Soralia Pollock is in Cedar Park, Texas. Thank you, Soralia. Thanks to Kim Anderson who's in Seattle, Washington.

[Genevieve]

Kim was over here throwing darts with us the other day, I think, think. Yeah, I think that was.

[Andrew Walsh]

And beat you.

[Genevieve]

Right.

[Andrew Walsh]

And you were pretty sore about that.

[Genevieve]

I am not speaking.

[Andrew Walsh]

Showing you up.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, I'm not on Speaking terms with Kim right now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, you're definitely known. Sore loser.

[Genevieve]

House rules.

[Andrew Walsh]

Has anybody. Do you ever play. I know you play with dartbot. I know. Maybe Viv sometimes, but, like, do. When you have people over, does. Does a competitive round of darts break out?

[Genevieve]

Yeah, definitely. I specifically had people over to. I don't even. You know what it was. This is such a corny thing, but. But it's absolutely true. I had gone to the record store or something, and I got that first MGMT record. You love that record too, right? It's so good. I'm blanking on the name of it right now. But everybody can picture it. And it's got, like, the. I believe the side a has, like, three of the biggest bangers from the early 2000s. Right? Or let's see. No, that would have been about 2015 or something, I think. But anyway, that record, I was just like, God, I love this record. I'm like, people should come over and listen to this record and throw darts.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oracular Spectacular.

[Genevieve]

Yes, Oracular Spectacular. Exactly. And. And that's got the youth on it. It's got kids. It's got, like, all the. All the songs that we know and love. And I was just like, carrying the record home on the bus, and I was just like, we got to have people over. We got to listen to this record and throw some darts. So, yeah, we definitely. I know that. And I don't always win, by the way. I want to make that.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's what I was wondering about. Is there anybody then give you a run for your money in your friend group?

[Genevieve]

The last time folks were over. I do think I won all the rounds. I will say that Houser comes over to play darts with me sometimes. He is J Dog. Yeah. How do you come up with those nicknames? He is probably my stiffest competition. We play this game where you have to get a double to. End of the game. It means you have to get in the outer ring of the board and specifically whatever number you're shooting for. It's a very specific way. And the game will just keep going on and on and on until somebody does that. And he and I were having some beers, and I can't remember, this is like a month or two ago. And, like, I know I can't speak to his sobriety, but I will say, as my sobriety got weaker and weaker, which is how we use how we talk about these things. Like, we just kept all we needed, like, as we had tied. I believe you have to play five legs. And we had tied two to two. And this was the final leg, and somebody just needed to get out. At that point. It was like, anybody just get the double? Will somebody please end this game? And, of course, the longer it goes on, the worse I am getting at it. And I think I. I think I ended up finally getting it, but it was pretty funny. So, yeah, I get a run for my money from time to time.

[Andrew Walsh]

That would be like, when Peter Williams and I would play, we would play foosball against each other, but it would be best out of seven. But each one was itself a best out of seven.

[Genevieve]

Oh, God.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is called being, like, 14. This is called having nowhere to be. So it'd be like you would have to win. You have to, you know, get four out of seven. That would give you one. And then you need to do that four times. We would play for, like, hour. I mean, hours and days.

[Genevieve]

Best of 49. That class of 49.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thanks also to Gail Schreibers of Edmonds, Washington.

[Genevieve]

Hey, thanks, Gail. Really?

[Andrew Walsh]

Arby's. Thanks.

[Genevieve]

Culturally, Arby's. Exactly.

[Andrew Walsh]

And then I want to take it on Arby's here in old London town.

[Genevieve]

You should ask the front desk.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm actually very curious about the food because, I mean, you know, London is a very cosmopolitan city. I'm sure there's great food. But I've also heard famously that, like, a lot of, you know, let's just say British culture is not always known for its. You know, it's. It's cooking style, like, things being boiled a lot. A lot of, you know, bangers and mash. I almost thought I went by a place that looks like a carvery. Are you familiar with this whole carvery culture? Again, I'm sorry this is so tedious for our listeners that are here, here in England or who have lived here. But I think my sense of it is it's kind of. Can be a sort of a Sunday tradition. And what it means is, like, mashed potatoes and gravy and. And maybe turkey or ham or like, just a kind of real kind of cozy home kind of cooking meal.

[Genevieve]

Some sort of name, because you have to carve the meat. It's like some sort of meal, presumably carving a roast or carving a bird, something like that.

[Andrew Walsh]

And it's just called a carvery. Like, oh, we're gonna get a carvery dinner, or we're gonna get a carvery. Like, that's a. Like that's a term. And I was in the taxi cab going past the carvery, and I thought maybe I'M gonna have to. I mean, when in London. I may have to. Just might have to get my London carvery on at some point. Even though I don't generally eat a ton of meat. But what is your.

[Genevieve]

I mean, but what is your. Aside from being there and wanting to sort of, like, try the culture? You don't seem to desire a lot of meat these days. I feel like, you know, when you first started, like, kind of curbing some of your meat consumption, which was quite a while ago now, by the way.

[Andrew Walsh]

I believe in acts of mindset. It's the only thing I've ever stuck with in my life. Wrong.

[Genevieve]

Well, I mean, I've always appreciated and respected your approach to it. You didn't just say, hey, I'm a veget. You were always very careful to say, I'm not using the word vegetarian. I'm just making some changes in my life, as they seem right to me now. And you've sort of. You curbed your meat consumption and continue to do so. I think it's. You probably eat it more meat.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thus.

[Genevieve]

I was going to say show title. And then I was like, no, never. But anyway, point is, I was talking to Veeves about this recently, specifically your journey, because she was looking for a restaurant for us to go to the other night and was sort of like, keeping in mind the fact that you don't eat a lot of meat. And anyway, all of that is to.

[Andrew Walsh]

Say.

[Genevieve]

I was just sort of like, thinking about your journey and I feel like you probably eat less meat now than ever. And I feel like I'm hearing less of kind of like, well, when I'm here, I might sort of like, quote unquote, cheat on this or have a little meat. So all of that is to ask you, you say, maybe I'm tempted to try a carvey. Does that even sound good to you, though now at this point?

[Andrew Walsh]

Not really.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, no, you know, the mashed potatoes sound really good.

[Genevieve]

Yeah. Yeah. But like, is there any meat out there? You're like, well, if I were in this situation, like, shall.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I'll tell you this. This summer, Becca and I are going to this place called Milkweed, the Milkweed Inn in Michigan. It's this. Lane Regan is the proprietor and they are a great chef, I think a Michelin star chef who. I interviewed them when they wrote a book. And then, because they were a big, big star chef in Chicago and then decided to buy this little tiny, like, kind of bed and breakfast campground thing in Michigan in, like, the Middle of nowhere and you can sign up to go out there for a weekend. And every piece of food you eat is made by Lane. And I don't know if they have a staff there or not, but like that's gonna be. And you know, I look at the pictures, it's incredibly well presented, but it's.

[Genevieve]

A lot of like the menu. Let's pre tape some shows because that might be the last I ever see of you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right. But like, so that's going to be a weekend where I mean, the whole point of it is to have all of this food that's been prepared very expertly. But I have a feeling it's heavy on the like, you know, we just trapped this Cornish game hen running through the campground and stuff. So. So for. I'm gonna try for that weekend just to be like, listen, I'm eating what they put in front of us because was paying a lot of money for this and this is the whole experience. I'm not going to be like, you know, so. But as far as like, you know, big meaty things, I don't really, I don't really crave, you know, steaks and stuff anymore much. Although I have been thinking. It's funny, I was talking about this with one of the nurses when I was coming out of my colonoscopy because she lives not far from me because I was telling her about how. Oh, she was mentioning something about one of her daughters living in a town called Elma, Washington. And I said, oh, you know, I'm actually going to be going up to Elma because they have a. There's a like a sustainably run, you know, farm there that has meat and you can go up and I think you can literally like just get eyes on the cows and the like the circumstances of, of their existence. And there's a farm store where you can buy this stuff. And I have been thinking about integrating a little bit more red meat back into my diet, but only of the most like heavy duty ethical.

[Genevieve]

You know, it's literally like that Portlandia sketch, right? Like, well, can we kind of is. I know literally they say can we go meet the cows? And then they do. And I don't know if they look at their.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I'm literally like, that's plan. So I may. I mean the thing that I'm still definitely trying to stay away from is the, is the, the kind of, you know, meat industrial process because I really can't support that. But like, I'm not against, I'm not against eating meat, but that being said, I do think over time, my taste has actually changed a little bit to where, you know, I just am kind of, you know, I don't. I'm not craving that stuff. If I did the carvery, it would literally be because I feel like I have to, because I'm in. I'm in England. That's why, you know, like, bangers and mash, like, banger does not actually sound particularly great to me. But it's like, I don't know. I mean, you're in England. You might have to try it.

[Genevieve]

That sounds great.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do we have one more person to thank?

[Genevieve]

We most certainly do.

[Andrew Walsh]

Mike Crawshaw of Western Springs, Illinois.

[Genevieve]

Thank you, Mike.

[Andrew Walsh]

Famous for their carvery.

[Genevieve]

Exactly. And thank you for. You know, I did look up carvery in the. And the Wikipedia page, by the way. I didn't type in, like, British carvery. It says. Well, I typed in, I guess, carvery dinner. But I noticed that the photo they have is actually of a place in the Midwest here in the States. I don't know if you remember being here in the United States, Luke, but a carvery is a pub or a restaurant where cooked meat is freshly sliced to order for customers, sometimes offering unlimited servings in a buffet style for a fixed price. Oh, no. Here it is, though. Here's the line that we were looking for. The term is most commonly used in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Canada and Australia. So I guess, whatever. I guess the reason they just used this photo from Dearborn, Michigan, is because it was the one that they had on hand. So.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Well, I'll keep you posted if I do get up to any carvery here while I'm in England. Thank you to all of our donors. Thanks for making TB chill possible. Now, Andrew, you were. Before we wrap this up today, you were asking me what is going to happen if I don't have any clothes, if I have to show up to my interview wearing a barrel.

[Genevieve]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

If you've said benders on it, if.

[Genevieve]

You'Ve said what you're doing there, I don't remember. So, yeah. What is the situation and how key is this luggage getting there soon?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, luckily I am a man of very bland dressing style. So even if my clothes show up, I probably wouldn't look that much different than I look to you. Talking. Like, what I've brought are three of these Everlane sweaters that I'm wearing.

[Genevieve]

Just a plain black pullover.

[Andrew Walsh]

Plain black, like cashmere sweater. And I am. I'm here in England. I'm ultimately going to Liverpool on Wednesday because I'm interviewing a woman who is credited with her son of popularizing this movement called Death Cafes, which is a very odd name. But it's this movement that's been happening all across the world, but particularly like in the UK and United States where people get together. I was filming one of these in San Diego recently. We just kind of have a get together and they kind of just like talk about how they feel about death. It's not a grief group per se. It's not where you go because you're grieving someone you've lost. It's just to have the conversation to maybe make it a little less scary, to destigmatize it, et cetera. And, and the. This woman and her son actually kind of founded this movement. I mean it was started by some guy in Sweden, but they really kind of popularized it in the UK and in. Her son unfortunately passed away, but she is still alive. She's in Liverpool. So I'm going to Liverpool, taking the train to Liverpool on Wednesday and we're doing an interview and walk around and hang out and stuff on Wednesday.

[Genevieve]

Why are you staying in Liverpool?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I wanted, I. Having never been to Liverpool or London, I wanted to get to see London.

[Genevieve]

Oh, okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I, and I also, it's like, this is a boring answer, but basically like I didn't want to have to break all this gear down and stuff and be like getting kicked out of the hotel room. Like what ended up being easier for me. Just established this is my hotel room for the week. This is where the radio shows are happening or this is where the podcasts are happening. And then I'll take the train to London, which I. Or to Liverpool. I'm actually kind of excited about to, to. And then I'll be there all day. I'm getting there really early and then I'm coming home really late at night. But I don't have to like repack all this stuff. I don't have to worry about if I'm trying to because the timing is so funky right now. Like it's 7:30 at night here, you know. So like there's no way for us to do the show on a day that I can't be in the hotel, if that makes any sense. So that's why I just figured I'm staying in London, I'm gonna visit Liverpool. Maybe I'll go stay in Liverpool a different time, but I figured I would. That just seemed to make the most sense.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, but you don't, you don't have business in In Liverpool. It's just. You wanted to stay in London filming.

[Andrew Walsh]

We're filming in Liverpool.

[Genevieve]

You don't have business in London. I mean, you just want to stay in London. You've never been there. You have business in Liverpool. How, how far of a travel is that? I'm trying to look it up on the map.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's a couple of hours. I think I'm taking one of the Avanti west is the people I bought the train ticket from. But I'm, I'm excited because on the, the, the, the trip home it was basically the same price to be in the like first class car of the train, which I'm sure is probably not very different than, than the, the other one. But I was like, ooh, we, we're gonna be riding in style. So I'm gonna try to get my Darjeeling Limited on.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, that's really exciting.

[Andrew Walsh]

Liverpool to London.

[Genevieve]

I love the idea of I'm having. I don't know why I am still in the United States using the same tools that I've always used in the US which is Google Maps. But for some reason like it will not give me directions from London to Liverpool. It's only taken me to like Liverpool street, which is in London. It's taking me, which is ironic because.

[Andrew Walsh]

Didn'T you grow up up in Liverpool? Oh, that's interesting. I went to Liverpool, Ohio, near you.

[Genevieve]

Liverpool School, Liverpool Township. It was Valley City. But the name of the grade school I went to was Liverpool, which isn't something I should probably say on the show or just never use that as my security question with a bank. I guess so.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. So that's the plan. I think my clothes will get here by. I'm hoping my clothes will get here by Wednesday. They are allegedly going to drive the suitcase out here when it shows up. If it doesn't though, I just have to go to a Tesco, I think that's a gas station and buy a T shirt that I could wear underneath this sweater. And I have enough stuff. Again, I'm very proud of myself that I did have my, like my toiletries and everything in that one suitcase. So I have like, if I, if I were, I could make it through this week going and buying a pack of black T shirts and black socks and I could kind of make it work if I had to, so.

[Genevieve]

Well, that's why I'm putting you in the hot seat. By the way. I have found the direction. It is about two and a half hours by train and it does recommend train and well, yeah, that's further away than I thought. That's like really kind of across. It's almost like on the other side of the country, but it's a small country, but I feel like I'm putting you on the hotspeed, but on the hot seat. But you mentioned, though, that you had pretty expensive clothes and suits in here too. Is that for just. Because if you want to go out at night, it's not related to the shoes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I am going clubbing. No, like, what I mean is, you know, it's like, well, I was wearing a suit on Saturday night, so that suit is in there.

[Genevieve]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And, you know, these cashmere sweaters are, you know, they're, they're. They're, you know, in the hundreds of dollars or something. I've got a few of them in there. And then maybe that was a hot. When I said thousands, that might have been overshooting.

[Genevieve]

I'm not trying to put you in the hot. I just wasn't sure I was asking that question more along the lines of like, oh, are you doing some sort of presentation? Because I know you went. Sometimes you travel and you have to, like, do things that are like, kind of like shoots like in, you know, that maybe are for some sort of large software concern or something. I don't know where I get that. That's just something I made up off the top of my. So I wasn't sure if you had any kind of big plans that were related to this.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, not at all. But I just, you know, I'm pretty particular now about. About the clothes that I have. And so, like, if I like something, I usually get multiples of it. And then for this I was like, I actually was thinking like, well, this will be easy to pack because I'm. I'm bringing this gigantic suitcase so I can just put in. Just take all the clothes that I normally wear in normal life and just put them in this suitcase. And I'm just think. I don't have to think about each outfit of each day. Day. But of course, in doing that, I have all of the clothes that I normally wear, like, you know, on a regular basis, all in this one suitcase that is currently unaccounted for.

[Genevieve]

I know this is like the most basic question in the world, but do you have any desire to even. Because it's like, it's going to be so museumy now and so touristy. But you have a desire to see the Cavern? Absolutely, yeah. 100.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I'm gonna go check out Abbey Road and I'm gonna do all of the like I'm gonna be basic I'm gonna be a basic ass be and happily like you know I'm. I'm excited to be here and I don't have any yeah any. Any hang ups about doing the very obvious things. Yeah that's pretty cool so yeah and like the thing about Liverpool is we're filming for part of the day but I'm gonna get there in the morning I'm not leaving until that night so it's like I'm gonna build in some time to just wander around and check out whatever kind of cool stuff there is and then same thing for, for London just I gotta make a list of things and start working my way through it Right after I take a nice nap.

[Genevieve]

Yeah right. Yeah I'm excited for you so right now it is evening there we started around 06:00 your time which means we must be pushing 8ish right do I have my map? 07:40 yeah so going on 08:00 you're going to get some rest tonight try to get on a more normal schedule and then do you have work tomorrow? You have to is that your next kind of like thing on your calendar?

[Andrew Walsh]

We I'm luckily I don't the crew is going to be shooting B roll so they're going to be getting some shots and stuff but I don't have to be there for that so tomorrow really my main thing is do T I also wanted to get here a day early because I didn't want to be like showing up and actually I'm glad now that they lost my luggage I didn't want to be showing up on the same day I was supposed to shoot yeah so tomorrow basically I've got TBTL with you I've got some other CBS stuff that I'm just some writing and things like that but I'm gonna get to spend a considerable portion of the day wandering around London and checking Nice and the other nice thing about being me is your boy can sleep like it does not matter that I took a three hour nap today I will absolutely tonight probably about 10 o'clock local time I'll absolutely get in bed and I will I will be out like a light. Yeah so I think I'll have reset my schedule by tomorrow like yeah I'm sometimes people like I can't take a long nap because then I just won't fall asleep I'm like not not my.

[Genevieve]

That'S never me that's not you on a good day and you've been through Like a lot of travel and everything. So that's good. You'll. You'll knock out. Good. I'm. I'm so I'll try to have lots.

[Andrew Walsh]

Of adventures and I'll try to have lots of run ins that I can share with you in the list listeners throughout the next week.

[Genevieve]

So I like to think of you. I guess it's more pub culture. They're not coffee shop but I like the idea that like you're, you have the day to do what you want but like you could also like just take your laptop and set up in a coffee shop or a pub somewhere or whatever the culture is and just sort of like. I don't know. I just love, I love being in a new city and then like having some work to do and you can just set up in some place where you can like look out the window and people watch while you tip tap away on your, on your keyboard. I hope that, I hope that for, for you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I just really like the fact that I don't have to dial up until 6:00pm local time.

[Genevieve]

Right. Yeah, you'll be drunk.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's like when our friend like wasn't. Did Bean. Bean never did. I don't think he ever did his morning show in LA from England. Did he, did he live in England?

[Genevieve]

No, no, most certainly not. No.

[Andrew Walsh]

Because that's, I mean that's the scam, right? Like do morning radio and we've always joked about this. We used to call ourselves Japan's number one morning show. Like the, the deal is is you do a morning radio show on the west coast of the US but you live in England. Like it's so great.

[Genevieve]

Yeah. You know, I say most certainly not my memory. And whenever I say most certainly you can most certainly believe I am wrong. So I don't. I feel like he dipped his toe in that visiting from time to time. But I feel like the London move was after he had left. After he left. What is the LA station. Why am I blanking on his kroc? Exactly.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is like I can go have a whole entire day Andrew down here at 6 o'clock at night and then you're just, just, you're just wiping the sleep from your eyes. Still the crack of 10 where you are.

[Genevieve]

Exactly.

[Andrew Walsh]

All right, all right, well listen, thank you everyone. We will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. In the meantime, have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves again. Peace and love to our Chiefs fans out there. We're, we're holding space for you as well. I know this is a tough Sunday. And also congrats to all our Eagles fans out there on a. On a pretty fun Sunday. And congrats to my DraftKings account for hammering the Eagles moneyline bet. All right, we'll see you tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Genevieve]

And good luck to all.

[Andrew Walsh]

Power out.