#4415 It-Is-What-It-Is Clips

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL Episode #4415 "It-Is-What-It-Is Clips"

Podcast Information:

• Title: TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live
• Host/Author: TBTL
• Description: TBTL is a daily show hosted by two longtime friends goofing their way through the world the best they can. Join Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh as they cover the most important topics of the day, from 25-year-old film reviews to whether or not Andrew’s neighbors are secretly using his garbage bins.
• Episode: #4415 It-Is-What-It-Is Clips
• Release Date: March 4, 2025

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1. Introduction and Opening Banter

The episode kicks off with Luke and Andrew engaging in their trademark light-hearted banter about seemingly mundane topics, such as cookie jars and the idea of starting a new podcast.

• [00:00] Luke Burbank: "Ah, look at that kooky old cookie jar."
• [00:51] Andrew Walsh: "I'm starting my own podcast. Hey, that could be fun."

2. Social Media and News Overload

The hosts delve into the challenges of navigating social media platforms like Blue Sky amidst a backdrop of overwhelming negative news, expressing their frustrations and the impact on their mental well-being.

• [04:51] Andrew Walsh: "It's just brutal because it's just one story after another that fills me with existential dread."
• [06:03] Luke Burbank: "I have no issues at all with Blue Sky or what people are posting on Blue Sky or my particular feed. It's just all bad."

3. Deep Dive into Podcasts and Music

a. Discussing "Why Is This Happening?" Podcast: Andrew praises a recent episode of Chris Hayes's podcast, highlighting the segment on "Chad Thundercock."

• [05:31] Andrew Walsh: "I would give it a 98 on Rotten Tomatoes just purely for the unpacking of Chad Thundercock on this week's 'Why Is This Happening?'"

b. AC/DC and Music Legends: Luke and Andrew engage in an animated discussion about AC/DC, focusing on the prominence of guitarist Angus Young over lead singers, and comparing him to Van Halen's David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar.

• [09:32] Andrew Walsh: "I think Angus Young probably has the award for guitarist who is more famous than the lead singer of their very famous band."
• [10:25] Luke Burbank: "I think Angus Young comes to mind before anybody else."

4. Haircut Experiences and Personal Anecdotes

Andrew shares his apprehensions about trying a new, affordable haircut shop, contrasting it with Luke’s experiences at various barbershops and salons. They discuss the social dynamics and personal comfort associated with different grooming environments.

• [25:34] Andrew Walsh: "What I'm doing down in town. The last couple of times I have been on the show, really an advocate for the affordable haircut industry."
• [31:05] Luke Burbank: "But it's like, this feels like I'm rolling the dice more with this whole situation."

5. EQC Casino and Club Giggly Advertising

The conversation shifts to local advertisements for Club Giggly at EQC Casino, critiquing the effectiveness and relatability of the commercials.

• [18:27] Andrew Walsh: "Club Giggly Thursday, March 6 with Paige Desorbo and Hannah Burner."
• [19:20] Luke Burbank: "I just don't understand what even this is a commercial for."

6. Dazzling Donor Highlights: Steve Lee and Steve Reich

A notable segment features Steve Lee’s critique of a website's list of “most famous Steves,” highlighting inaccuracies and sharing his disdain for Steve Reich’s musical style.

• [36:05] Andrew Walsh: "Steve says... We played Steve Reich's clapping music from 1972."
• [42:25] Luke Burbank: "Steve Reich's drumming is actually kick ass."

7. Listener Messages and Social Causes

Alicia Elliott from Sharon, Massachusetts, sends a heartfelt message encouraging listeners to donate to organizations like Planned Parenthood and the Trevor Project, emphasizing the importance of supporting causes that protect vulnerable communities.

• [46:50] Andrew Walsh: "Alicia says... her fellow tens to consider also becoming monthly donors to organizations like Planned Parenthood, the Trevor Project..."
• [49:05] Luke Burbank: "Maybe there is some power in support... [regarding] Planned Parenthood."

8. Cable Management and Home Organization Tips

The hosts exchange tips on managing household cables, sharing personal hacks and products that help maintain a tidy living space.

• [53:18] Luke Burbank: "I use that, I had a plastic version of it... but at least it kept everything all like kind of grouped together."
• [53:29] Andrew Walsh: "That's exactly it. That I love that thing."

9. TV Show Discussions: Severance and White Lotus Insights

Luke and Andrew discuss their differing opinions on the TV shows "Severance" and "White Lotus," critiquing storytelling methods, character development, and overall execution.

• [56:05] Luke Burbank: "I last night, finally watched the most recent episode and I actually blue skied and then unblue skied..."
• [67:28] Andrew Walsh: "It's completely stylistic... felt like watching something that was just a whole bunch of imagery that I wasn't really following."

10. Liberty Bell Theft and Local Crime Commentary

The episode covers a local crime story about the theft of a replica Liberty Bell from Evergreen Washelli Cemetery, later updated with the news of its recovery by Officer Michael Eaton.

• [71:03] Luke Burbank: "The Liberty Bell has been found."
• [73:18] Andrew Walsh: "This is why you're trying to talk the Seattle police out of investigating this whole thing?"

11. Policing Priorities and Social Issues

Andrew and Luke engage in a critical discussion about the Seattle Police Department's resource allocation, particularly focusing on sting operations targeting sex workers and the broader implications on community trust and justice.

• [75:16] Luke Burbank: "Why don’t they have any kind of a little... security cameras all over the place."
• [79:21] Andrew Walsh: "The bell has been found, presumably returned to Evergreen Washelli."

12. Conclusion and Sign-Off

Wrapping up the episode, Luke and Andrew reflect on the day's discussions, express gratitude to their listeners, and provide a heartfelt sign-off.

• [95:30] Luke Burbank: "We are glad the Liberty Bell is back at Evergreen, Washelli, Washington."
• [95:46] Both Hosts: "Thank you, everyone. We will be back here tomorrow with a more imaginary radio for you. In the meantime, have a great Tuesday. Take care of yourself, yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall."

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Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Walsh at [05:31]: "I would give it a 98 on Rotten Tomatoes just purely for the unpacking of Chad Thundercock on this week's 'Why Is This Happening?'"
• Luke Burbank at [10:25]: "I think Angus Young comes to mind before anybody else."
• Andrew Walsh at [42:25]: "Steve Reich's drumming is actually kick ass."
• Alicia Elliott at [46:50]: "Even $5 a month makes a difference and will put you in the loop on the important work that is happening and what you can do."

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Conclusion:

Episode #4415 of TBTL, titled "It-Is-What-It-Is Clips," offers a blend of humorous banter, insightful discussions on pop culture, personal anecdotes, and critical commentary on local issues. Hosts Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh navigate a wide array of topics, providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful perspectives. From dissecting the fame dynamics within rock bands to addressing serious concerns about policing and social media's impact, the episode encapsulates the essence of TBTL's engaging and multifaceted approach to daily conversations.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Ah, look at that kooky old cookie jar.

[Andrew Walsh]

You like cookie jars, Kenneth? Well, I guess I've never thought about it that much.

[Luke Burbank]

We had a nice one back home in Georgia.

[Andrew Walsh]

Had a bear on it.

[Luke Burbank]

I remember when my mom's friend Ron would come over, they'd go into the bedroom to sort out their paperwork, and I'd just go ahead and stare at that cookie jar. It was almost as if I took every problem that I ever had and I put it inside that cookie jar and I sealed it up so tight that nothing would never, ever, ever get out. So I guess to answer your question, I'd give cookie jars about a B, T, B, T L.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm starting my own podcast. Hey, that could be fun.

[Luke Burbank]

All right, everybody, who's ready to laugh? Yeah, I can't hear you. That's not true, of course, but cheer louder. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Are you seriously detaining me again? Am I being rendered?

[Luke Burbank]

No, you're being friendered. So just please accept our compulsory hospitality.

[Andrew Walsh]

If you had a favorite saying, what would it be? Life's a party. Rock your body.

[Luke Burbank]

It stinks.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Hey, cheer up.

[Luke Burbank]

It's Taco Tuesday.

[Andrew Walsh]

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I'm joking. I'm joking. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio where it is wet and windy out there. Didn't know you like to get wet, though. I had to delay the beginning of this broadcast to run outside of the studio and out onto the deck attached to the house because I realized that the. I had neglected to put the COVID like the kind of, you know, rain cover back on the barbecue, back on the Weber. And so over the weekend, we had some really nice weather, particularly on Friday. So that broke out the barbecue, but now we're having terrible weather. And I was watching the tongs and the, like, barbecue spatula bang into each other in the rain and become covered in water. And it was going to make me even more distracted than normal on the show today. So I went out there, I fixed it. Andrew was patient with me, thankfully. And we are in great shape, my friends, for episode 4415 in a collector's series, Let the Fun Begin. Oh, we've got an update. Can you. Can you verify. Can you give me some 411 involving the $100,000 missing Liberty Bel cuts off? Kind of weird. Also, if you think that was boring and forever taking.

[Luke Burbank]

This is so boring.

[Andrew Walsh]

And Forever taking. You should be watching Severance on Apple tv. My goodness. I watched the latest episode last night and I may have lost the thread. We'll get into that too. And we're going to talk to this fellow, the longest running cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's sort of the Terry O'Quinn of podcasting, also known as Andrew Walsh. And he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Luke Burbank]

Is there any kind of scrolling that isn't doom scrolling anymore?

[Andrew Walsh]

Where did I, where did I experience relief?

[Luke Burbank]

I left. I left Twittered for Blue Sky. Ebay. Yeah, actually, that's not a bad idea. Or that Goodwill auctions site that our friend David had told us about. I feel like there's no, there's no. I'm in a bad mood this morning because I can't get away from the news, Luke. I can't get away from the news.

[Andrew Walsh]

But I feel like Blue sky is becoming more sort of politicized than it was maybe at the beginning.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, my issue isn't with Blue sky so much as it is with the Trump administration. No, no joking, of course. My point is, I, no, I don't think that Blue sky should. I don't think that people who use Blue sky should not talk about what's going on in the world. Like, what's going on in the world is terrible. We have to talk about. I have no issues at all with Blue sky or what people are posting on Blue sky or my particular feed. It's just all bad. It's just all bad. And so like, and it's funny. It's like, you know, we're looking for these little bits of, of reprieve from this and you're just not. There's few places to find it. And then you feel guilty like, well, maybe I shouldn't be finding it, but it's like, also, I can't spin like this just constantly.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, it's rough. It's very rough. And again, I'm, you know, as a public radio employee of sorts, I'm trying to really, I'm trying to stay the course. I'm trying to not turn my back on my, on my public radio, you know, colleagues, that is to say, whether it's OPB or KUOW or anything else, but it's just, it's just brutal because it's just one story after another that fills me with existential dread, as they say. And, and then I like to unwind on the treadmill by listening to our friend Chris Hayes podcast why is this happening? Which this week it is not a look away from all of it. It's actually a look into it. But you do get to learn what a Chad Thundercock is.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, let me ask you this.

[Andrew Walsh]

So I'll give it a. I'm gonna give it a. I would give it a 98 on rotten tomatoes just purely for the unpacking of Chad Thundercock on this week's why is this Happening?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that's a good. And I know I am behind on listening to that show. I am not. I have not been a good friend in that regard. But it does raise a question that maybe we could have Chris on the show and ask him this. But I'll ask you this if you listen to it. Why is this happening?

[Andrew Walsh]

If only there were a show dedicated project.

[Luke Burbank]

Is this happening? But I guess we do have a little bit. I didn't mean to start off the show so negatively, but I wanted to let you know kind of what you're dealing with today.

[Andrew Walsh]

I get you.

[Luke Burbank]

But what. We do have some good news right in the news today.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Pivoting to something else.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, no, let's get to that in a minute. By the way, how did you feel about my decision to play three and a half bells?

[Luke Burbank]

I thought the half who's a weird amount.

[Andrew Walsh]

Let me just take the listeners through this quickly. As we were getting ready for the show and we were going to talk about this Liberty Bell thing in a minute, but I realized I didn't have any great sound effect for this. In fact, the first sound effect I was going to try to use, I was going to try to get away with playing this as if it were a bell. And then.

[Luke Burbank]

And then you don't get the show.

[Andrew Walsh]

You rightfully pointed out, Andrew. These, our listeners, they are people of honor. Lies do not become them. They would have known that was not a bell. They would have known that was a gong. They're clearly very, very intelligent folks that listen to this program. So then while we were kind of chatting and getting ready for the show, I went onto the Internet and I found this, some YouTube video of this. And I was loading it into my computer playing, you know, a few of them. This, of course, as I mentioned yesterday and as you mentioned today, puts one in the mind of acdc. Yeah. Can we highway to Hell.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, can we actually wait, Is it Highway to Hell? Is that the name?

[Andrew Walsh]

I think that's highway to Hell.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, give me one second here, because.

[Andrew Walsh]

You'Re finding the chipmunks version.

[Luke Burbank]

I wanna find the Chipmunks version of this. Let's see here. No, no. It's not highway to Hell. It's Hell's Bells. I knew it wasn't Highway. Hell's.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh. Cause it's bells.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Yeah. So I knew it was the lead track off of Back in Black. And I knew this because I used to. It's just so cool, Luke. I used to leaf blow. I used to blow the leaves on the driveway. There's gotta be a better way of saying that. In eighth grade, while listening to Back in Black. And it would always be Hell's Bells. So just imagine, just like pudgy little Andy, just like, getting the leaves off of a very suburban, literally cul de sac driveway to this. Yes, exactly. And I want to hear. I want to go back.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know if that guitar riff absolutely slaps, though.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah. Let's hear the bells. I want to hear how close these bells are to your bells. Can you play your bells? Or at least the first one again?

[Andrew Walsh]

Legally, I have to play all two and a half.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Clearly, I had no plans to get this far into the file, hence it being cut off.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I thought you just stopped it. Oh, you weren't planning on playing the.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's how Slap dash this whole thing was, I thought. Okay, let's.

[Luke Burbank]

Here's AC DC Here. Oh, yours? Really? This is weak compared to yours.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wait, come on now.

[Luke Burbank]

We can't let too much of it play. We'll get full death. We already got the Chipmunks on our ass. They really let it breathe.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love it.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah, man. Put in my veins.

[Andrew Walsh]

A leaf blow.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Actually, the difference between trying to do a Chipmunk version and just doing the. Is it Brian Johnson?

[Luke Burbank]

I think so. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, wait, no, no.

[Luke Burbank]

He was the original singer. Was he still on Back in Black? I get them all confused. Confused.

[Andrew Walsh]

I like trying to. I was going to try to do a funny spoof where I pretended to be the Chipmunks singing Highway to Hell.

[Luke Burbank]

But then you're like, oh, that's it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Both things are at the absolute top. I mean, they're beyond the top of my register. They sound essentially the same. Me shrieking as the Chipmunks or as whoever the person was at the time who was I. Do you. Would you say that Angus Young, because of the kilt, has done. Or it could be because AC DC switched lead singers at some point.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Dave Evans was the original guy. Brian Johnson was I'm Back in Black.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. Maybe because they switched singers at some point. Or maybe because of the Kilt. Or maybe because of the absolutely ripping guitar solos. But would you say Angus Young is. Probably has the award for guitarist who is more famous than the lead singer of their very famous band? Like 80% of the people outside of Australia could not name who the lead singer is of ACDC is. But they would say the guy with the kilt, that's Angus Young.

[Luke Burbank]

Right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, I feel like he is. His star has far outshone whoever is singing in. In acdc.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, that's a really good call. Is. Does Van Halen give them at all a run for their money? Well, I mean, the lead singers. I mean, it's named. It's not named after the lead singers. It's Van Halen.

[Andrew Walsh]

David Lee Roth and Sammy Haggar were more. I would say David Lee Roth. Unless we're. Unless we're talking to Camaro Kev.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

I would say, like people. Nobody was confused about David. Like, you know, when like California Girls comes out and it's dominating the MTV airwaves, I feel, you know, trying to think. I mean, you know, obviously in the Rolling Stones, Keith Richards is hugely famous, but Mick Jagger is still, you know. You know. You know that Mick Jagger is the lead singer of the Rolling Stones.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I'm trying to think of other examples, but now I think you got that one. I think if anybody. Yeah, I think Angus Young comes to mind before anybody else.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And again, I think it's. I think it's because the guitar.

[Luke Burbank]

Wait a second. Bon Scott is the guy with me, I think. Dave Evans. That name looks funny. I was Googling.

[Andrew Walsh]

Dave Eggers.

[Luke Burbank]

Dave Eggers was the original writer of A Heartbreaking Bell cdc. Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

A staggering bell of heartbreaking genius.

[Luke Burbank]

I was. This was me getting. Oh, man, this was like several minutes ago. Which means a lot of people are very angry at me and they're emails.

[Andrew Walsh]

Are already like the drummer.

[Luke Burbank]

I. It says I was Googling because I couldn't. My brain wasn't working. And I said, oh, Dave Evans was the first lead singer. But that didn't ring a bell to me. Bon Scott is the guy that we think of when we think of the first lead singer.

[Andrew Walsh]

So really I thought that was the drummer who died. Bon Scott.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh. But God damn it. Am I messing?

[Andrew Walsh]

Do I. But like, why am I. Why am I acting authoritative on this?

[Luke Burbank]

No. Bon Scott was an Australian singer who is the second lead vocalist of the. In lyricist and lyricist and humorous. He was the humorist of hard rock band AC DC. He also covers from 74.

[Andrew Walsh]

Bon Scott on sports and the business of sports.

[Luke Burbank]

Anyway, before the show, you know, playing the bells. And I told you to play all three of them.

[Andrew Walsh]

You didn't. You said, oh, because in the sound check, I only played one. You're like, oh, you're only gonna play one. And I said, I'm gonna just see how I feel.

[Luke Burbank]

I like something. I like.

[Andrew Walsh]

I went with the exact wrong amount. Way too much, and then abruptly ending. You know what else makes the. The Bon Scott thing confusing to me is you do have John Bonham.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Who was he? Led Zeppelin?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

If I say it in that voice, I'm not committing, therefore. But I. I think I definitely. And you know, not being clearly very read in on either of these bands, I think that Bon Scott and John Bonham are always kind of interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Banging around in my brain as, like, you know, as. As rock dudes who. Who.

[Luke Burbank]

Who.

[Andrew Walsh]

Who died too young or maybe exactly at the right age. I don't really know. What about the what. What. Okay, and John Bonham, was he the guy that, like, drove his. He drove his car into a swimming pool?

[Luke Burbank]

I think that I don't know that story, but.

[Andrew Walsh]

Or is that Bon Scott? No, Bon Scott was the ACDC guy.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I mean, the who is the who drummer that's on. Who's on drums? Keith Moon.

[Andrew Walsh]

Keith Moon was the real wild child.

[Luke Burbank]

He put dynamite in his drum kit on some, like, TV show and caused ruckus.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, exactly. I mix all. I'm also just. I don't know. We have so much to talk about, including the dangerous game I'm playing with my haircut today, Andrew, which I know you're dying to hear about. I don't know why this is where I'm going with the show, but it's. I think part of it is one, I'm. My. My old brain is faltering as the years go on. But also I'm. I have a. I have a deep antipathy about both guitar and drums in music. As in, I did actually really like that ACDC riff coming in. But, like, this whole question of, like, greatest rock drummer of all time is a conversation I could not have less interested or, like, greatest. And like, because I listened to a ton. You know, my version of the Dan LeBatard show is the Howard Stern show in that it's a thing that I listen to constantly when. When I'm not on the air with you. And so I have a parasocial relationship with them. And Howard Stern is learning how to play guitar, and he loves nothing more than a one hour conversation comparing the guitar work of say, Joe Walsh to that of say he's on a Vince Gill kick right now. Yes, the country singer Vince Gill. Because Vince Gill is in some. Some ghost frigate that is the Eagles right now.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, wait, is he the guy. Have you heard this commercial for EQC CAS where it's like, what? It's like the man who brought the hard edge sound to the Eagles is on tour and then they just play like some Eagles track and it's kind.

[Andrew Walsh]

Of like that Joe Walsh. No, no, it's a different guy.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, let me look up the chat Thundercock. It's some person who is like the. The. I do not know much about the Eagles, I should say that, but who like the least known.

[Andrew Walsh]

The entertainment center of the Northwest Capitol, you mean?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, but the EQC Casino is bringing somebody they have. When they have these has been musicians, of course. They, they. They, you know, relate them to the act that they were famous for. But this isn't even one of the names you've heard of from the Eagles. So they say it. The man who brought the hard guitar edge to the Eagles, like, you probably. I don't even know that he would have been a vocalist. I have no idea who this dude is. But then as an example of that, they just play Hotel California from the album or whatever, the hardest Edge songs of all time. And you're like, what is going on? Are you.

[Andrew Walsh]

I actually would really like to hear that commercial. Maybe. Actually, if we go on the website, we can probably figure. Yeah, no, something. Vince Gill is a country singer, but I guess he like, somehow is basically, what's happening is Howard Stern is spending his days just deep down YouTube rabbit holes about guitar playing. And he finds the topic endlessly fast, endlessly fascinating. And I find the topic endlessly boring. And I think as a. As a reaction, as a self preservation, my brain is starting to eject whatever information it had about Keith Moon and John Bonham and Bon Scott and anybody else. Glenn Campbell, who was, I believe, the guitarist in the Wrecking Crew. Second Wrecking Crew reference this week. I think you might have been thinking of the Bar Kays the other day, by the way, when I mentioned the Wrecking Crew and you said, were they the horn section? Were you thinking maybe of the Bar Kays? Because they were famously an amazing horn section that kind of backed up a lot of Otis Redding stuff and things like that.

[Luke Burbank]

No, I wasn't thinking of them and I wasn't thinking of the Tower of Power or whatever they are. But I had what I once thought was a special mix, but I realized it was just somebody had taken the vocals out of something I had.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, was it me trying to play.

[Luke Burbank]

You audio knows before I knew you? There was.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, the vocals were on the left channel.

[Luke Burbank]

There was some. There was some like weird early 2000s mix I had that was like a bunch of songs that this band had backed up, but they were pretty horn heavy. That doesn't matter. I want to back off of that for a second because it's not interesting. I don't have the answer to your question. What I do want to say while we're on the topic of EQC Casino.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you remember and I need some space here. Do you remember on the show a while back, we were looking at, probably because of this exact type of conversation, we were looking at acts coming to eqc and you stumbled on something called Club Giggly. And it looks like it's two women, two young women who are podcasters. And you're like, I don't even know what that is. And then we googled it and they have tons of followers and they're probably influencers or whatever. And you know, I don't want to get into a whole like generational thing, like whatever. Like, they probably have a lot of listeners and people might absolutely love these women. All I want to talk about is the commercial that I heard since then and it is sometimes played on the radio and it is sometimes played on television and I'm pretty sure I found it here. And I hope this is the right one because it is indescribable. It is indescribable. And I heard this with Genevieve so many times, it kept auto feeding into something we were watching on tv. Please be the right one. Please.

[Andrew Walsh]

Coming live to the Emerald Queen Casino Event center, it's Club giggly Thursday, March 6 with Paige Desorbo and Hannah Burner. Braxton has gotten a DUI. Never been convicted, just called his dad Braxton.

[Luke Burbank]

Sounds like a form of birth control that I forgot to take.

[Andrew Walsh]

Get your Club Giggly tickets now@emerald queen.com Giggly Squad Live Thursday, March 6 why.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you think people think I look like I haven't showered? And my lips are always chapped because.

[Andrew Walsh]

You don't brush your hair.

[Luke Burbank]

Emerald Queen Casino the entertainment, the version I've heard is only like 10 or 15 seconds long and it's just Club Giggly coming to, coming, climbing to EQC Casino. And then they play just this clip at the end. I had never heard just the thing where she says this look like I haven't showered and my lips are always.

[Andrew Walsh]

Chapped because you don't brush your hair. And I know the laugh track that gets you.

[Luke Burbank]

I just don't get the. I don't get the joke. And like out of.

[Andrew Walsh]

You don't get the joke.

[Luke Burbank]

By the way, that gong sound that you played earlier is literally the gong that they play when he says you don't get the show. But anyway, it was just like I just kept hearing that 10 seconds over and over. Why do people think you haven't showered? Or I have greasy hair, whatever it is. And I'm just like, in this 30 second version actually does it way more justice than just hearing a 10 second version. I'm like, I don't understand what even this is a commercial for.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And like, how would that ever get you to buy a ticket to this thing unless you already knew about these?

[Luke Burbank]

And maybe that's the point, you know.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know because, I mean, they're spending some amount of money on their advertising this. So clearly, clearly EQC is putting. Or the promoters putting money behind trying to get more people there.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And, and, and that's doing a bad job of it not to be a commentary on the show at all. Now what's interesting about this, now that I'm looking at it, is this. One of the folks in this giggly squad, Hannah Burner, is very much having a moment because I believe she was on the red carpet for the Oscars. And I didn't, I didn't see her because as I mentioned yesterday, I didn't watch the red carpet part of the Oscars. But I, somebody said something that was notable and what I remember about it while they were on the red carpet and I was reading and it said like, while they were being interviewed by this Hannah Burner person. And then I also noticed that my friend Sarah Schaefer, the comedian and performer, was hosting something for Comic Relief and she had taken a picture backstage of the like of the rundown of the lineup of comics. And this woman, Hannah Burner, one of the giggly squad, was on that rundown. So it's clear that at least one member of the giggly squad is ascendant right now in the pop culture. And so I'm actually kind of surprised that it isn't already sold out. I'm with you. That, that, that ending piece of tape. And listen, we've struggled with this on our show. It is, it's hard when you do a show that's just kind of, you know, Just you sort of chopping it up, just yapping. It can be hard to find something that is a sort of self contained joke that, that only takes up five seconds. Like it's very hard to do. But whoever cut that, I think they could have done a better service to this show. To the show. We're talking about Club Giggly.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Now what I would go see if I ever had the chance would be Don Felder, formerly of the Eagles.

[Luke Burbank]

He'll be performing songs from his new.

[Andrew Walsh]

Solo album American Rock and Roll, along with classics like Hotel California. Now listen, I don't want to. There's no reason to yuck any yums. There's no reason for me, a person who could sell exactly 10 tickets at the EQC, to be critical of anyone who's touring and selling probably a lot of tickets at the eqc. But I can very much imagine a conversation between Don Felder's people and the EQC people about if Don Felder is going to be playing new music from his solo album American Rock and Roll. And, and I, I have a feeling that the EQC people would like there to be zero songs played from American rock and roll and Don Felder would like there to be all of the songs played from American rock and roll and probably almost zero Hotel California.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, he likes applause too and they maybe. He probably likes a little bit of applause.

[Andrew Walsh]

And so I think that they landed on this, this very parsed verbiage Experience an unforgettable night with Don Felder, formerly of the Eagles, at the EQC Event Center, April 17. He'll be performing songs from his new solo album American Rock and Roll, comma along with classic hits like Hotel California.

[Luke Burbank]

Let me just see. I'm going to do it again because apparently, and God bless him, it is hard to find like usually radio style commercials on YouTube, but EQC is posting all their commercials. Let's see if they have that line. And I want to say something that I think is, I want to interject something here about that Club Giggly thing. There's, there are a few things that I like less than middle aged or older men talking about what if they're white? Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Does that help?

[Luke Burbank]

Straight CIS all the, you know, like just really plugged into youth culture, making fun of people who are younger. Like, you know. Yes. Entertainment choices for people who are younger than them. Specifically young women. Like, I don't know what's going on with Club Giggly. It might be good, but these commercials are always chopped up in a. I'LL bet you it's not for me. I'm sure it's not, but I just don't. I want to make it very clear that first of all, we're going. We're going after the boomers. We're going after the kids here.

[Andrew Walsh]

As far as the weight, we're the sandwich generation, Andrew. We don't have the money our boomer parents did or the fans that the younger generations have.

[Luke Burbank]

So I do want to hear of Don Felder, if they use the line here. The man who brought the edge to the Eagles.

[Andrew Walsh]

The man who brought the rock and.

[Luke Burbank]

Roll edge to the Eagles. I rest my case.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey, Andrew, a little more on Don Felder. No matter how you look at it, 2024 is shaping up to be the year of the fingers. Don Fingers Felder.

[Luke Burbank]

Chris, get on that. Your Chad?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Chad Thundercock.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Chad Thundercock's father, Don Fingers Felder, a true American rock and roll guitar hero, is very much looking forward to building upon his rich legacy as one of the most innovative riff generating songwriters of the modern rock era, while continuing his growth as a featured touring and recording solo artist. To that end, Felder finds himself most decidedly back in the driver's seat with the. This really feels like Fingers doth protest too much.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, he's back in the driver's seat.

[Andrew Walsh]

Felder finds himself most decidedly back in the driver's seat.

[Luke Burbank]

Somebody was in the way, way back of the Eagles station wagon, I think.

[Andrew Walsh]

For too long, and now he's been decidedly back in the driver's seat.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And let me ask you this.

[Luke Burbank]

Was Don Felder on the black carpet, do you recall? And if so, did you have an opportunity?

[Andrew Walsh]

I believe Don Felder was not doing interviews on the black carpet, Andrew, much to my chagrin. I mean, here's the irony of what I'm doing right now. I'm. I'm. I'm shit talking the incredibly rich and successful Howard Stern for his talking about guitar people. And then I just ate up 10 minutes of your life with Don Fingers Felder.

[Luke Burbank]

There's only one thing that I want to hear from you, and it's this drop. The next time you introduce somebody on the show, the man who brought the rock and roll edge to the Eagles.

[Andrew Walsh]

Will you forward me that or will you. Can you capture that, please, and send it to me?

[Luke Burbank]

I like that. It's a clean cut, too.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love that. It's really, really good. Okay, well, we're at a natural breaking point, which is why I'll extend this by telling you I'M trying something new today, Andrew, with where I'm getting my hair cut down in town. The last couple of times I have been on the show, really an advocate, I think, for the what we'll call the affordable haircut industry. Your greats clips, your sports cuts. I don't know if Supercuts is still a thing, but that basically the kind of place where there you'll never have the same person twice. And it's. There is nothing glamorous about that about the haircut, but there's also nothing expensive about it. I'm paying about $20 for a haircut these days. And, yes, the place is in a Fred Meyer, I tell you, like, where.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm going now, which is not a chain, it's a local shop, but it's, like, very, very affordable. And I think it caters to probably, like, a lot of people who are new to the country or whatever. I definite am a bit of a fish out of water there. I mean, they're very kind and very nice, but everybody's talking. Let me put it this way. Everybody's talking about soccer, and I'm like, does anybody know baseball? And nobody knows baseball. So, like, anyway, I.

[Andrew Walsh]

Does anyone here know the man who brought the rock edge?

[Luke Burbank]

They did not. I promise you that. I am not saying this to make it sound like I am super generous or. Or. Or. Or wealthy, but I'm tipping, like, more than 50%, and it's still so. Well, no, that's. Maybe I'm tipping about 50%, but I'm not saying that like I'm some Daddy Warbucks. What I'm saying is, is it is so much more affordable. Yeah. And they do so much more. He's trimming my. I'm getting beard trims. He's doing my hair. He's trimming my beard. I'm in the chair for a long time. It's like, I have never had. And I've loved Rudy's. I have nothing bad to say about Rudy's, but it is amazing. It is, like, with a tip still half of what I was paying at Rud and a very substantial tip. The reason I'm tipping that much is because I feel like I'm stealing from them.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I have been again, I've been. I've been out here talking about how satisfied I've been with my, like, 20 haircuts. And the last couple have been a little dicey. Like, the. The just. I don't know what's. I just got a couple of, you know, very nice women, you know, cutting my hair but like I didn't love, I didn't super love the results. And the latest one, it's kind of probably hard for you to see, Andrew, but like there's, I have this side tuft of hair that I don't really want and it's been increasing over the course of the last two haircuts. I've just been having some less than ideal outcomes. And so I was in the bank the other day and there is like a mortgage person there who I have worked with for some stuff, stuff associated with my house and who is a stylish person and who I was just chatting with, making some small talk while I was waiting to do my deposit. And I just said, hey, where do you get your haircut in this town? Is there a place that's not crazy expensive but that isn't in the Fred Meyer or next to the Little Caesars? Those are the two places I've been going. Again, no disrespect to those fine businesses. And she said oh yeah, yeah, I got a great place that I go. It's over on such and such. I said oh yeah, yeah, I know that place. I drive by it all the time. And she said yeah. And it's like, you know, they wash your hair and they do the whole thing and it's like 30 bucks or something. I was like, oh wow. Okay. So I was at the Home Depot as I often am and I was driving past the place and I pulled in and I went in to make an appointment and I was already kind of in the middle of making the appointment when I kind of gazed around and noticed that it is, the place is chock full with those kinds of inspirational like signs and writing, you know, living and laughing and loving and the.

[Luke Burbank]

Sort with the real like kind of.

[Andrew Walsh]

Kind of loopy kind of script, you know, and like a lot of them, a lot of them and a lot of, you know, I was definitely, it would, I don't know how often they, they cut guys hair. It didn't, it didn't feel like a place that caters particularly to, to male clients.

[Luke Burbank]

Did it look like a place that serves hash browns? Because you might have been in Patty's Egg Pig's Nest.

[Andrew Walsh]

I, you know, I, and I'm already, by the way, I'm already kind of lying to these people at this place, Andrew. Which is, which is, well, it's not a full on lie. Okay, I'll tell you what happened when I, I walked in and I thought I'll make an appointment. I'll try this out. And then I started to kind of get cold feet as the person was coming over to take my information. Also smelled very distinctly of a woman getting a permanent in there. You know, that smell of a perm. I haven't. They don't do perms at, like, great clips anymore. It's. I don't think it's a. I don't think it's worth the time for the profit. So I haven't been in a place where there's that very kind of distinct smell of permanent solution. I also didn't know people were getting perms anymore. So I'm in there and someone's getting a perm, and I'm starting to kind of look around, and I'm. I'm down with living and loving, but I don't know if I want to laugh this much. And then the person comes over and says, hey, can I help you? And I'm kind of trapped a little bit. And I said, I was wondering about making an appointment for a haircut. And she said, do you want it right now? And I said, I have groceries in the car, which was not a lie. I did have groceries in the car.

[Luke Burbank]

That's fine. You don't have to get a haircut right now.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know, but then later I said it was ice cream, which it wasn't, but that's okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, you don't have to get a haircut. That is.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know, but I don't have to lie to them either. I could just say, not right now. I don't. Because basically what happened was I said, I'll make an appointment for next Tuesday, which is now today.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay?

[Andrew Walsh]

That's how calendars work. And. And I said. And then. And she said, very nice. She goes, you know, I had just had someone cancel so we. I could just do it right now. And I was like, I've got ice cream, which is not true. But anyway, so I made the appointment for today, and I'm going to go in there and I guess we're gonna see how it goes. But I'm. It's. I'm a little nervous about it because. Because just the whole thing. Just because of. I don't know how it's going to go when you go to a new place. The thing about the great clips or whatever it is that I go to is it's never great, but it's never terrible. It's just. It is what it is. You know what I mean? Like, I like it.

[Luke Burbank]

It is what it is. Clips. Then if they're calling It. Great clips. It's not great. I see issues.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's definitely not great, but it's also not terrible. And this. I feel like for some reason, this feels like I'm rolling the dice more with this whole situation. But anyway, we will see how it goes.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I think that it's interesting, you know, there are, you know, varying. There are a lot of different types of places to get your hair. Did, you know, like, generally speaking, and obviously, like, Genevieve. We talked about Genevieve going to a salon a couple of weeks ago. I am going to more of a barbershop. I think a great clips is probably more on the barbershop spectrum of those things. So if you're going into a place that feels maybe. I mean, could it be a salon light or something? You might get. You might get a treatment that you appreciate. You might. Yeah, you may like the experience more.

[Andrew Walsh]

It could be great. And that would also be kind of awesome if it's. If it's. If I really enjoy the experience and like the outcome and it's also not like $50 or $100, then. Then maybe this will be great. It's just. I'm a little bit. Like, part of it is I keep. They put my number in the system, and I've been getting a reminder every day about the appointment, which for some reason, it's giving me a building sense of dread. Like, I don't know why. It's like, because I'm already a little iffy about the whole thing. And I just keep getting these, like, auto reminders, like, hey, don't forget, we're.

[Luke Burbank]

Still doing this, right? We're still doing this. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

There's appointment on Tuesday. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

So you haven't made any other plans on Tuesday yet, have you?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. So anyway, I'll give you a. I'll give you a full report tomorrow. We was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark.

[Luke Burbank]

Get set, get set now. Ready?

[Andrew Walsh]

Ready, Go. Everybody rattles Dazzle. Hey, let's thank some dazzling donors. These folks are donating a dazzling amount of dough. They're making TBTL possible. We're no giggly squad. We're not selling out the eqc.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm the grumpy squad.

[Andrew Walsh]

We shower regularly. You shower probably more than you need to. Yeah. As opposed to whatever they're doing over at Giggly Squad.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm down to. I wonder if I shower more during the summertime because.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Because I'm one. One shower A day guy, for the most part now, unless I'm kind of going out in the evening and I kind of need like a wake them up or something. You're not like that, huh? Like, if you had a whole workday, even if it's not a strenuous workday, but just like a work day, I just feel a little clammy and stuff at the end of the day, if I'm then going to go get something to eat or meet up with folks, I like to take a shower, freshen up.

[Andrew Walsh]

My hair is a whole situation, as you know, as evidenced by that conversation a moment ago. And so, like, if I'm already. If I'm relatively clean and coiffed, I'm trying to stay. I'm trying to keep that rolling into.

[Luke Burbank]

Less clammy than me in general.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know about that, but, you know, what I'm getting really into these days is baths.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Because I, you know, I redid this. What was the kitchen in my house now is a bathroom. Stunning. How small that kitchen was because it's a small bathroom. And I like, I look around, I go, how is this? This is the entire kitchen in this house. But anyway. And part of the bathroom now I have a freestanding bathtub. And it's kind of funny because more than one person, including, I think my dad, but also other people who've been working on the house or have been in the house, when they saw the bathtub, they were like something to the effect making a snide comment about how basically, like, you're never going to use that or whatever. Like, I have probably, since it went in a couple of months ago, I've probably taken 15 baths. Andrew, I'm loving it.

[Luke Burbank]

You watch TV in there on your laptop.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't. I read. I read some magazines and some books. I stare out the window. I bring. I do bring a. Well, I have a Sonos speaker in there. So I'll put on my tunes or I'll put on my. My dreamland radio. And I, I absolutely. So that is something that I will do, not necessarily to get clean, but just because it's. It feels luxurious. I feel. I. I've got some Mrs. Teals bath, you know, whatever you call it, bath soap, like, whatever stuff you put in the bathtub while you're filling it up. And that's. So that's the thing that I'm kind of starting to do a lot like your. Wake them up.

[Luke Burbank]

That's nice.

[Andrew Walsh]

Very nice. But that's. But that's Me shutting down.

[Luke Burbank]

I was gonna say that's not a. Wake him up.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's. Put him down. Yeah, that's a real. Put them down.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

All right, let's thank Steve Lee, who says you pronounce my name the same way that you pronounce these folks names. And then Steve, by the way, is in Shelton, Connecticut. Steve includes a very helpful link to a website that lists the most famous people named Steve. And the most famous person, according to this website named Steve is Stone Cold Steve Austin. Which is interesting, Andrew, because we had a Stone Cold Steve Austin.

[Luke Burbank]

Can you verify.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can you give me some 4, 1, 1. We had a stone Cold Steve Austin drop today on the program.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I always forget that that's him.

[Andrew Walsh]

That supports this website's listing of Stone Cold Steve Austin as the number one Steve. I still. Maybe it's my generation. I still think the number two Steve Martin, that's who they've got, listed as Steve as number two. I think Steve Martin could make the case for being the number one Steve.

[Luke Burbank]

I would think Steve McQueen, but I know that's going back a way, all the way down.

[Andrew Walsh]

Number five, Steve McQueen. And by the way, our friend and today's dazzling donor, Steve Lee has thoughts on this. He says, well, maybe only 23 of those 25 fine people. He's talking about this Steve list. Sting being listed is a sham of a travesty of a mockery. I would totally agree. They've got Sting on this list. As in, oh, Sting the wrestler.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I thought it was Sting. Okay. Oh, and also, we should note there's two Steve McQueens. How confusing is that?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah, there's the British fashion person and director.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. And Steve Buscemi is on this list. I'm going down finding the Sting one, but I don't see that on. But there's a. There's a wrestler named Sting.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, but like, no one even knows that his name is Steve. I think this is our Steve's point as well, is that putting somebody who's popularly known as Sting, again, not the tantric guy, but the wrestler, just because his name is technically Steve, nobody knows his name is Steve. I'm reading now from Steve Lee's message. Sting being listed as a sham of a travesty of a mockery of two shams of a mockery of a sham. Nobody knows his name is Steve. Same for Stone Cold Steve Austin. Nobody calls him Steve. That's also fair. It's Stone Cold or Stone Cold Steve Austin. And don't get me started on Steve Reich being Listed as the third most famous. What are we even doing here? I hate to shit all over a fellow Steve, but his notable works include clapping music and drumming. Just listen to this nonsense. And then our Steve includes a link to the music of Steve Reich, who is listed as the third most famous Steve in the world on this website. I'm gonna play you a little bit of it, Andrew. Favorite selections from the Garu Music Library. Steve Reich's clapping music from 1972. Guess what, Andrew? This might all be on the left channel. I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I could play it from my end if you'd prefer.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm looking at it and I'm not even hearing anything.

[Luke Burbank]

Wow, is this the Lumineers?

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey ho.

[Luke Burbank]

Thank you for giving.

[Andrew Walsh]

Viewed 1.8 million times, Andrew. Somebody called X I M A R E s top comment. Would applause at the end be considered improvisation?

[Luke Burbank]

Not a bad comment at all.

[Andrew Walsh]

Steve says. Clapping music and drumming. Huh? Just listen to this nonsense. I did. We played the link. The 2000 Kirsten Dunst classic Bring It on did it better. Heck, 2022's Bring It On Colon. Cheer or die probably did it better or die.

[Luke Burbank]

That guy serious.

[Andrew Walsh]

Pretty high on that one.

[Luke Burbank]

I guess. A lot happened in 22 years.

[Andrew Walsh]

Steve says. Wait, where was I? Oh, right. Dazzling donor message. Okay, hang on. TBTL breaking news. Wait, I think I've got a sound for that. TBTL breaking news. Steve Reich's drumming is actually kick ass. About an hour long. And drummers just keep coming out Fantasia style. From backstage to Joy to. Then he includes another link to the work of Steve Reich, which first we have to wait for a commercial.

[Luke Burbank]

I'll play it here. I gotta.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sure, if you got. Do you have.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah, I got.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, cool.

[Luke Burbank]

Right now there are four drummers out there. We're only about three minutes into this video where I started it.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is actually pretty cool.

[Luke Burbank]

Now what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna fast Forward to about 20 minutes into this hour.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, oh, Marimba, xylophone.

[Luke Burbank]

Got about six people out there now. That's really nice. Now we're gonna jump ahead to about 45 minutes in, I think. See how this thing is in the last quarter of its life. Let's take a. Oh, wow. We got about 10 people out there now. All kinds of percussion. Yeah, this is kind of cool.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, it is, actually.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

There's a whole interview with him that says how Steve Reich brings repetitive music alive. And it says that the headline on the YouTube video is repetitive doesn't equal boring. And I really, as a person who repetitively tells the same four anecdotes, I would like to really push for this. That repetitive does not equal boring.

[Luke Burbank]

You got a new tattoo idea?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. All right, well, let's see. Steve says. He says about drummers keep coming out all Fantasia style from backstage to join him. It's definitely worth a skim through at least. Well, I'm down to just four. And then the dazzling donor message ends. I believe that Steve was quickly running out of space.

[Luke Burbank]

I see.

[Andrew Walsh]

On the dazzling donor message, it's because.

[Luke Burbank]

Those URLs take up a lot of space. Probably. Yeah, they probably do. Remember that.

[Andrew Walsh]

What a journey, though, Steve, great job, great assistant producing today to take us down a rabbit hole of various Steves, including Steve Reich. I completely agree with all of your assertions in this dazzling donor message, Steve. I think it's BS that they've got a wrestler named Sting in the running for most famous Steve. And I do also think that that Steve Reich stuff kind of slaps.

[Luke Burbank]

And also, can I. We were talking about all the different, like double names, right? You got two Steve McQueen's, you got two stings. By the way, you know the singer Sting's real name, right? I had to look it up, but it occurred to me you often call him by his first name, don't you? Sting?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. Although I don't. Don't tell me, is it. I mix it up with Elton John's real name, Dwight?

[Luke Burbank]

No, I don't know Elton John's real name.

[Andrew Walsh]

What? What? It's. Is it.

[Luke Burbank]

He shares a name with alf? It's Gordon Sumner.

[Andrew Walsh]

Gordon Sumner, Yes, Gordon Sumner.

[Luke Burbank]

And I believe alf's real name is Gordon Shumway.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. You. You believe, right? You believe. Correct.

[Luke Burbank]

But what I started to say there was isn't. You have Stone Cold. You have Stone Cold Steve Austin. But wasn't there a famous Steve Austin, like a character in a 1970s TV show or movie called Steve Austin? And that's why Stone Cold Steve Austin causes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wasn't he the million Dollar like the.

[Luke Burbank]

Million Dollar man was?

[Andrew Walsh]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Was he the fall guy or the fall guy? One of those guys?

[Andrew Walsh]

Was that Lee Horse Horsley's character?

[Luke Burbank]

Man, I just. I don't either show.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know that. Here's. Here's what I don't like. If you Google Elton John real name, the first thing that comes up is Elton Hercules John Elton Hercules John. But it's like that's not his real name. His real name is Reginald Kenneth Dwight. And that's fine. But the Internet Elton John, full name. I Google Elton John, real name. And the biggest thing that comes back is Elton Hercules John. You're not helping, Internet. We know that. We call him Elton John, but what I would like to get to the bottom of is, like, what did his parents name him?

[Luke Burbank]

Six Million Dollar Man. Steve Austin, science fiction character, the Six Million Dollar Man.

[Andrew Walsh]

I didn't know. What was he? Who was he played by?

[Luke Burbank]

I get all of those guys. I don't know the fall guy from the Six Million Dollar man from anything else. We said it was played by Lee Majors.

[Andrew Walsh]

Lee Majors?

[Luke Burbank]

Lee Majors as the Beaver.

[Andrew Walsh]

But see, that's confusing because. Because Lee Majors, I believe, was also the fall guy. Was he? The fall guy was a TV show about a stuntman. Oh, yeah. Starring Lee Majors.

[Luke Burbank]

That's why I get him confused. He was the first million dollar man and the fall guy.

[Andrew Walsh]

And the $6 million man was, like, cybernetic, right? Like, the Idea was a $6 million man had been in an accident, they had rebuilt him, and he had bionic powers.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh. I guess it was based on the novel Cyborg. Look at you. Oh, my God. The COVID art for the book Cyborg. I'm assuming it's its first printing. You would love it.

[Andrew Walsh]

It.

[Luke Burbank]

When you're done with the show later, I want you to Google Cyborg, the novel. 1972 novel. In case there's any ambiguation there. What do they call it in Wikipedia?

[Andrew Walsh]

Disambiguated.

[Luke Burbank]

Disambiguate it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is that what is. Is this where he's coming? Oh, yeah. It's like. There's, like, a few versions of him. The. The Cyborg is.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm looking at the. The book title is just mostly, like. Just. It's a really awesome font with a face.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah. Cyborg is, like, coming out of the. Yeah, it's cloud of very cool something or other. Very cool. Well, Steve, thanks for taking us on that incredible journey. Maestro.

[Luke Burbank]

Doing other things. I don't think we're talking about the same book. There's no cloud on mine, but.

[Andrew Walsh]

On your mark. On your mark, get set now.

[Luke Burbank]

Ready?

[Andrew Walsh]

Ready, go. Send me the one you're looking at.

[Luke Burbank]

Unless I. Well, that's why I'm judging myself. I'm sort of questioning myself here. Am I missing. Am I missing the cloud? What is the best way to get at you these days, Luke?

[Andrew Walsh]

Should I just text you? Yeah, just ping. What's your phone number on my MySpace?

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. I just texted it to you. Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

See, there's two covers for Martin Caden's Cyborg.

[Luke Burbank]

And you're seeing one.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's a guy in a blue suit. And there's one where it's a guy. His shirt's ripping off. He's all buff.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, you're just seeing that. Okay, I'm looking at the only one that is portrayed on the Wikipedia page or displayed on the Wikipedia.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm looking at this. Oh, no, no. Totally different one. I dig it.

[Luke Burbank]

It's just fun with fonts is.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's fun with fonts. Today we're discussing Garamond.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, exactly.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, no, I. We were looking at totally different.

[Luke Burbank]

I had a feeling, and this isn't. You know, I have a lot of regrets about the last, like, 15 minutes of my performance, but, you know, just. I needed to clear that out of my mic. I was like, I don't see a cloud. Or where is the cloud? What am I missing? Yes, okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, but, you know, first of all, we have to, of course, thank our second dazzling donor today, which is Alicia Elliott of Sharon, Massachusetts, last name pronounced Targus. Targus.

[Luke Burbank]

Nice.

[Andrew Walsh]

But you know why I think you're. You know, I. First of all, you just like fonts. You're just a font. You're just a font freak. Andrew, let your font freak flag fly.

[Luke Burbank]

That's right.

[Andrew Walsh]

But I also think I have a theory. I'm gonna share my theory after we thank Alicia. I'm sure my theory as to why you associate with this cyborg font and why you wanted me to see it so bad. Badly.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

And it's going to get us into the next part of the show. First, though, Alicia's message. Hey, friendos. I'm in Washington, D.C. for a work conference, and I'm having lots of feels about being here now, given the state of things. On that note, I encourage my fellow tens to consider also becoming monthly donors to organizations like Planned Parenthood, the Trevor Project, races, which stands for Refugee and Immigration center for Education and Legal Services, or any other group working to protect the people whose lives are actually being threatened by this administration. Even $5 a month makes a difference and will put you in the loop on the important work that is happening and what you can do. Very, very good reminder.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm not trying to correct you, only in case it's important. Alicia says actively threatened, which is different than actually threatened, because I just. I only point that out because I'm kind of constantly in this state of saying I'm having an existential crisis, but I'm not somebody who's actually being, like, targeted right now. So, anyway, I just wanted to make sure Alicia's note was accurate there.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think it's also a good thing. Like, I'm sort of reading into what Alicia is saying here, but related to something that you've said a few times, I think we all feel this general sense of dread and hopelessness and helplessness. And if you can, you're not going to fix it. But if you can take the. If you can turn the temperature down on that a little bit by donating to a cause that matters, that's almost like self care in a way. Like to the tune of $10 a month to Planned Parenthood or some other, you know, organization that is. It's a bunch of smart people getting up every morning trying to figure out how to protect folks. I could see that being a way to actually feel like on some level, maybe very small level, but on some level, you are. You're doing something every day and every month. So in other words, it might, it might be good for the soul.

[Luke Burbank]

And, you know, I'm not saying this to pat ourselves on the back. I almost started the show by mentioning this, but, you know, maybe there is some power in support if I, if I mentioned this that I told you that we were hoping or planning on canceling our Amazon prime membership. I just got a text message from Genevieve because, of course, they don't make it super easy, you know, so, like, she had to dig around or whatever. And she just sent me a text message message moments before the show began saying, okay, we're officially canceled. Our prime, we pay yearly. So I guess it's going to hang on for a little bit, but we're like, we're done. That was a really tough decision for us. Or if it's not a tough decision, it was an easy decision, but a really tough trigger to pull because I have become very dependent on that. But, like, I'm already looking at other organizations and, you know, and I don't even know, like, okay, I need to buy a bunch of, like, bags and stuff for this organization I volunteer with, and it's going to be harder to sort of track those down somewhere else. And as I'm doing that, I'm even thinking, well, how do I know the values of this other organization? Like, the other organization, which is. I don't even have to get into it. I'm like, oh, I'm sure the person who runs this company is not some sort of, like, bastion of liberal ideals.

[Andrew Walsh]

Don't buy it from you. Lie. That's the number one thing.

[Luke Burbank]

Are you being serious? Because that's Literally what I'm talking about.

[Andrew Walsh]

Here, they have the worst politics. They're the number one supporters of Republican. They're the. I think they were the largest Republican donor.

[Luke Burbank]

That is literally the company. I was not starting to say. I was going to say I didn't know that, but I assumed with a company that runs, you know, anybody who runs that kind of a company, you're just like, you kind of assume, yeah, probably a conservative Republican organization, but at least you don't have the consolidation of power. But the fact that you specifically just said uline means I guess I got to go empty my cart. I literally. It's just hard. I need to buy industrial things like bags and refillable bottles and little shampoos and all these things. And it's really hard. You can't really get. Get. Thank you. To go bags at like, you know, some sort of boutique because they're plastic. You know what I mean? Right. So anyway, I'll figure.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sorry.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, that's good to know. Knowing it's half the battle. But anyway, all of that is to say it is a journey. And I'm trying to like. But like other people, if you're on the. If you're on the fence with supporting some of these organizations or you can't maybe you can't pull away from some of these tech organizations that you don't want to support, but your life is entwined with them, your work is entwined with them. Maybe do what Alicia is mentioning and maybe also maybe like, try to offset that a little bit like Jackie used to do with her chicken sandwiches.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly. Alicia says on a lighter note, I love cable talk. I still remember where I was when I heard episode 1554, when. Pause for effect. Andrew learns of the best Radio Shack in the world. It's important to note that the pod description capitalizes those words, underscoring the importance of this occasion. Podcast goals. Love you guys. Love to the tens. Love to you guys. Love to the tens. And thank you all for being out there. Power out. That's listener. Alicia, did you. First of all, I have a lot of thoughts on cable talk recently. Do you know that I have. I have. There's two things that I've done that have just radically changed my cable life around here. One is these little, like, actually, I have some. Oh, no, they're. They're inside. I was going to try to show you on the camera. I bought these things on the TikTok shop that are these little kind of open and closable little snaps that have a. You Know, a hole for a cable to go through. You stick them down on a surface and then you just kind of run the cable. But they, you can, you can open and close them if that makes sense. But bigger than that is this kind of mesh thing that I bought. I don't know if you've ever seen this or if you've used this, but it's basically like a 10 foot long thing of this mesh that's, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's in a, it almost looks like a piece of rope. But you cut it, you cut it to the length you need and then you can actually un, you can kind of like space it out. You can unfurl it like a scroll.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

And then it rewraps around stuff.

[Luke Burbank]

I use that, I had a plastic version of it. I've used that stuff for a long, long time. I had a plastic version that wasn't super nice looking, but it didn't matter because it was hidden. But at least it kept everything all like kind of grouped together and. Yeah, I've had various versions of that. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh my gosh. I'm using it in a few different places. I'm using with my record player now and I'm using it with the, the, the thing that runs down to where my like DVR is and like stuff like that.

[Luke Burbank]

Are you looking at your video? Is this the thing?

[Andrew Walsh]

I know, I'll get, Let me get.

[Luke Burbank]

Eyes up on this.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's exactly it. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. That I love that thing. It is really. I'm, I, I, maybe I'll do a. Hey dummies. I feel like my cable management right now is at an all time high.

[Luke Burbank]

You have to edit that one though. No offense, but like my cable management, because it's weird you would think that I would have my cable management down. It's very important to me, but it also feels like a lost cause to me. Like I, well, you have a lot going on there.

[Andrew Walsh]

You're the, you're the technical times of this entire show.

[Luke Burbank]

Hey, I mean, I always just wanted to live long enough to have everything be cable less and cordless. Like including like powering things. Like, I just, it's the bane of my existence. But you'd think I'd be more careful with it then. But I just give up. It's like the world, like it just becomes too much and I just give up.

[Andrew Walsh]

Aha. Right. Exactly. Well, that's why you should be donating to important causes, Andrew, and researching places that Aren't you Line to get your stuff. You know, I'm getting. I'm also getting pretty close on that. On just, just. And I don't want to listen. I don't want to throw around the term hero, but me giving up Amazon with considering where I live and how there's nothing around here, like, there's nothing close by. And, you know, it really involves me, like, making more trips into town or me, like, really just being very organized about when I'm down in Portland proper for stuff that I need. And yet I do think it would actually be really good for me. I mean, not just because it would be a very tiny pushback on Jeff Bezos, but because I do think it would change my consumerism. I was saying this the other day, like, I just think I don't need to buy. I have everything that I need in this house right now. And if I really need something, I can go get it or I can wait a week and pick it up when I'm in Portland. You know, like, I have. I do definitely have an addiction to this frictionless kind of purchasing experience of Amazon, where, if I think about it, I can have it on its way to me in absolutely no time and I can figure out my life in a different way and consume less. Half of the stuff that I get, I probably don't need, but I get it because it's so convenient and the price is suppressed and all of the bad things.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, no, it'll be an adventure, certainly. And also Amazon prime for me is also where a lot of shows. Reacher stuff I like. Well, where else am I going to see Reacher? But no, Patriot is on there. You know, I mean, I know that there are workarounds for all of this stuff. I don't. You know, I'm watching. In fact, maybe this will.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's how I watched Anora the other night. I mean, I had to rent it, but it's like I. It's. Prime is one of the places where you can rent.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Yeah. You know, I don't have Apple tv, but I've been watching Severance, which I don't know if you want to talk about that too, because it sounds like you and I are in very similar places with that, having both caught up with the show recently.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's my. Okay. That's my connection to this cyborg font. I feel like you love this cyborg. Like this cyborg font is filling a hole in your heart that Severance started out filling and has now gone so far afield from. Yeah, very cool design. I don't know if I'm using aesthetic correctly, but, like, the vibe of Severance was so immaculate when it started as far as that. Just, you couldn't put in a particular place in time in history. It's kind of 80s, but it was just like, the set design was so spectacular. And as you've said very eloquently on the show, the way that the show was just subtle and was really took its time with things, it was just so great. And I last night, finally watched the most recent episode and I actually blue skied and then unblue skied, like, three different versions of me. Just saying Severance is Bad. Like, literally at some point, I ended up on Severance is Bad and then I deleted because I was like, I don't think that's really. I don't think that's helping the world. And maybe I'll wait till tbtl. I just look like a crank, whatever. Like, if I was happening upon somebody's Blue sky account and their top. Their latest Blue sky post was Severance is Bad, I'd be like, okay, actually, I would agree with them. But, like, the episode, I couldn't even spoil. I couldn't even spoil it if I wanted to, Andrew, because I have no earthly idea what's going on, and I defy anyone to explain coherently what's happening on that show right now.

[Luke Burbank]

See, I don't think I have the same. I don't have exactly the same issue as that. Like, I feel like I could have an intelligent conversation. I mean, not everything is spelled out yet, so there are still some mysteries. In fact, I would say the only thing that is sort of going for it is that it is like it's feeding us bits of information and bringing things a little bit more into focus, but still withholding a little bit. Like, if you're only in it for the plot. And I know we have listeners who love this show, and so, like, I.

[Andrew Walsh]

Really don't want including my brother.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Although it sounds like he's got some issues with it as well. Our friend Anna, who I see every Sunday, Like, I know that she's really loving it. And it's like, it kind of pains me to go on this podcast and be like, oh, it's bad. Like, you know what I mean? Because if people are liking it, you're liking it. Here's why it's not for me. Like, if you want to have a conversation about the plot, we could throw some spoilers out there and actually talk about that. I feel like the plot, I'M still in it because I want to see where it goes. And I think they are bringing some things together and we're hoping that they'll explain some other things with time. For me, it is like, you alluded to as we got into this, it's completely stylistic. Like, this was a show that was so pristine. And again, I use the word withholding in a good way. And it created its own universe. And now they're literally, like, doing brain surgery where they're doing close ups of the hole in the person's head. Like, what medical TV shit is this? And again, I'm not even saying that that doesn't have a place. Like, if Severance started season one with this style. I'm just going to use the word filmmaking because I don't know what other word to use when you're talking about, like, a series. But, like, for me, I was into it for the filmmaking as well as the plot, and now it's like, well, I'm still kind of interested in the plot, but the filmmaking is just like basic af. Like, are you zooming through somebody's brain? Like, remember this? It's like literally the same type of thing that they did in Brain Candy with the kids in the hall. Like, zoom, zoom, zoom. Remember this? Zoom, zoom, zoom. And then again, I don't know how spoiler we want to get, but it's getting really tropey. Like, the day you didn't say a proper goodbye was the day something happened. Like, really, like, really. And even some of the romantic scenes. And, like, I'm not saying it's bad television. It's just like standard television. And it's going in for all the tropes that other shows go in for. And it's not the worst of the worst, but it's nothing. It's absolutely nothing. Like, what brought me into the universe.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can I ask you one question that is spoiler.

[Luke Burbank]

Should we just say be careful? If you care about this.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, if you care about. This is the official. This is the official spoiler.

[Luke Burbank]

Hear ye, Hear ye. Hell's bell.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hear half of that bell ye. Okay, so this is gonna be a bit of a spoiler, but here's something that I don't understand fundamentally. Okay? The entire thing starts with, like, you know, episode one of season one, I believe. Maybe. Maybe we find out in episode two. But the whole premise is Adam Scott's character has lost his wife in real life, on the outside, and he is devastated by it. Right? And part of. Presumably part of why he's agreed to be Severed is because he needs a break from his grief. Is that more or less correct?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, it seems like, in fact, you said something on the show the other day that has really lived in my head, which was. You said, boy, I could see how this technology would be appealing because you can turn off your brain for work. Whereas I actually think the way the show depicts it is opposite of that, is you turn off your brain, you turn off your brain for life. Like, it seems like people who are going through some sort of trauma often are the ones who are attracted to, oh, I can have a job where I can just like literally turn off my brain for eight hours and not know where those eight hours go.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right, right. It's presumably great if you're the Audi and presumably terrible if you're the innie, because the Audi never has to go to work and the innie never gets to not be at work.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, but, but, so, okay, so that's what we start off. It's like he's very, he's sad because he's, he's lost his wife. And then, and then we, we. But then we find out that there is somebody who's an innie, who is his wife, but he doesn't know initially that that's his wife because he's, you know, been severed. So his innie doesn't understand. Yeah, and she doesn't know either. But, but, but the thing is, what I don't understand is like, the innie and the Audi, they're not different corporeal forms.

[Luke Burbank]

No.

[Andrew Walsh]

So in other words, she's not really dead on the outside, she's hiding from him. Her Audi is somewhere. Her Audi is hiding somewhere. Because her Audi then goes and lives in there too. Right?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. So her Audi does not get to live, let's just say above ground or outside of their facility.

[Andrew Walsh]

Only an innie now.

[Luke Burbank]

But she is being. And I wasn't sure about this early on, I was like, I'll bet you she's never turned off, if that makes sense. I'll bet you the innie. I thought she was innie 24 7. But what we learned in this latest episode is she's not just in the 24 7, she is that switch is being turned off, but she's never allowed to leave. So even when she's a quote unquote Audi, she's still inside the complex and she's not allowed to leave it, even though. And again, this is full spoiler territory. She, she tries to leave. And I would also say the interesting thing that I think we learned. And again, that's why I will say, like, I'm still with this show. I will still probably watch it as long as they're making them, because I am interested in the plot. I think what we just learned in this last episode is she's a whole bunch of innies. Like, this is the first time where we've seen her. She has an innie who only has the Christmas experience in that room. And then she comes out and it turns off and then she goes into a different room. And so then she has to have a dentist appointment that she doesn't like, and she leaves that room and she has all these different experiences, but those different innies don't remember those experiences. So, for example, when she goes to.

[Andrew Walsh]

The dentist, she was like, I was just here. Right, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

She, like, the. The innie who's in the dentist's chair does not have any of the memories that the innie who is being kind of emotionally abused at Christmas time has. So it's kind of interesting. You're now seeing they're learning how to, like, turn on and off people's brains and actually turn them into a whole bunch of different innies, which, I mean, it's pretty scary.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe start watching this with you and Genevieve. I'm sort of watching it here by myself, blue skying away about how it's bad because that actually. Okay, that's interesting. See, this is. Here's the problem, Andrew, is that I. I am not good with any sort of plot. That is not the Sopranos. That is not. Hey, Tony wants to kill that guy. Is he gonna kill that guy? Like, you know what I did right.

[Luke Burbank]

After Tony's innie, I think was going to kill Silvio's Audi, which is. Was really weird. And then you have the topic. Yeah, right.

[Andrew Walsh]

But like, I. I just, like, I don't think I'd even put that together that. That she's. There was in the. The most recent episode, there was so much thrown at us. There was so much like, particularly of the Mark character just being like, in and then out and then in and out. And like you said in the brain stuff. And then like just the, like, ah. You know, it was so. Everything was sort of whiplashing around so much. And she's. His wife is going in all of these different, you know, tableaus or whatever. That's the vignettes or something. It's like I didn't even put it together that that was. I thought it was all just like some delusion or something. I didn't realize that that's like, oh, she's, they have her brain now segmented into a bunch of different things, but.

[Luke Burbank]

It'S just pretty creepy. Like when you think about it like, that is intriguing also. Can we, let's just give a couple of put ups here. Like, Ms. Wong is amazing. She wasn't in the last episode, but you know, Ms. Wong, like, that is an amazing character addition to the show. Anytime she's on the, on the screen, the little girl I'm talking about.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Anytime I see her, I'm just like, she does such a good job. And Milchek, I think when Milchek is on the screen this season, it's really, really compelling too.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. I, I mean, I, I do, you know, I think the acting is good and everything. I just, I am a very, I'm, I'm a simple person as, as the listeners have realized. And I just, anytime it gets. What I felt like last night was I was watching like some David lynch, like, which again, I think this is even just you explaining as much of it as you did makes it a little more kind of coherent. It's less artsy, it's less art for art sake or whatever. But it felt like I was watching something that was just, it just a, I don't know, just a, a whole bunch of imagery that I wasn't really following. And then I turned around and watched White Lotus afterwards and it was just beautiful.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that's the thing about White Lotus.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is I was soap opera, as you said the other day. That's lived in my head, by the way. I never thought of it as a soap opera. And now I'm like watching it and I'm like, I love soap operas.

[Luke Burbank]

It's all about expectations, right? Because that's the thing. Like, even if Severance started this year and it was this style of filmmaking, I don't know that I would hate it and I don't hate it, but I just feel like they just set me up. I just loved the first season so much and it was so unique. That, and then losing, kind of, kind of losing the thread on that style of filmmaking really kind of bothers me. But it's funny because I think the first season of White Lotus I took more seriously the second season of White Lotus I liked, but then thought the ending was such over the top soap opera weirdness that I came into season three and I'm only like one episode in, but I came into season three of the White Lotus as like, oh, this is a soap opera now. Like, I can release Desire on it being anything other than that. It's going to be arch. We always know that there's some sort of. There's some sort of violence or death that happens. That is teased at the beginning. It's always going to be that format. It's always going to sort of feel like a combination of like the eeriness but also the, the nice feeling of showing up to vacation in a beautiful place on the first day. Like it gets in your bones. And like once I'm like, oh, this is just a soap opera. I can't compare the White Lotus to severance because they just set different expectations for me now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, and, and again to watch them back to back.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And. And one of them is. Is, you know, really, really pushing the edges of. And it's, you know, it's. I guess, I guess I wouldn't. Is it sci fi?

[Luke Burbank]

I would say brain technology. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, and one of them is like, I have no flipping idea what's going on. And then the other one is just like, oh, I wonder what's going on with Walt. Walt Goggins is character.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Right. Yeah. I gotta get back into it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Why's he gotta get to Bangkok? What's he got going on over there?

[Luke Burbank]

He's trying to find the owner of the hotel. Right?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, well, yeah, the husband. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Can I just say one more thing about severance? And this is I gave two put ups. I just want to give one more put down. This is something that really drives me bananas in this kind of storytelling, which is when a character doesn't just say what would just say a couple of sentences that would solve so much miscommunication. And I'm thinking of the Regabi character, the woman who's the scientist. I don't know if she's actually a doctor, but she's the scientist who's mucking around in Mark's brain. Right. And Mark's sister shows up and she's like, what's going on here? Why wouldn't Rigabi just say here's the deal?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

But she refuses to say here's the deal. Instead she just doesn't give her sister any information or Mark's sister any information. Of course, any sibling who sees their sibling and best friend in distress like that deserves an explanation of why there's a hole in his head. And she's not gonna say, hey listen, this is what the deal is. Mark and I have been working together for a while. I'm a good guy. She's just gonna give no information to the sister. And then when the sister tries to kind of take control over her brother, she storms out and says, fine, I'm not a part of this anymore.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Use your words.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. In, like, romcoms, I always call that, like a fake up, which is like a fake breakup. Like, we have to have a moment where the two, you know, the romantic leads break or, like, go their separate ways. And it's always. It seems like it's often over something that would be very easily cleared up if somebody just said, oh, no, no, that's what. That's not what was happening. It was this other thing. And then. But you need it for the, like, the plot. So that's why now it's like, you know, she's the sister. Is. You know, is. Has not kicked her out because then she, like, leaves. Right. She basically says, like, I'm not gonna. Yeah, but. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, you know, Andrew, actually, I think you've got me. I think you've. I think you've. As was your desire, I think you've reeled me back in. I'll probably. I'm also paying for this Apple tv. Unlike you, I don't steal content.

[Luke Burbank]

And Dylan's wife. That's a nice. I. I don't think that played a part in this last one. But Dylan's wife, who makes the. Not conjugal visits, but, like, the visits to his. Anyway, that's really. That's been really. I think that actor. I don't know her name, but I know that she' and other things. And people love her. But Genevieve knows her, but she just kind of mentioned that. But she's seeing that kind of relationship develop. So there are moments that I'm really into, but I'm with you. This last episode was by far the worst. And it did make me think, like, am I going to stick with this? Because they need to clean some things up.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think that is her name. Jen Tulloch.

[Luke Burbank]

That rings a bell. I don't think that I know her from anything else, though.

[Andrew Walsh]

You're saying it rings a bell.

[Luke Burbank]

I say that phrase so much. You better keep that bell on standby.

[Andrew Walsh]

We have an update.

[Luke Burbank]

No, Jen Tullock is the sister. Oh, oh, sorry.

[Andrew Walsh]

We have an update, by the way, on the bell situation. In case you somehow didn't listen to yesterday's episode but are listening to this episode. I'm not sure who that demo is, but yesterday, Andrew, you brought us the story of this replica of the Liberty Bell that was over at Evergreen Washelli Cemetery nearby where you live. And the, the story that somebody had cut the locks at the, like, kind of, you know, maintenance, physical plant, whatever you want to call it, shop where this thing was, was kept and, and stole it. And that this was actually worth like about a hundred thousand dollars. They think there aren't that many of them out there. There. And that it was probably, or at least maybe going to be scrapped because that amount of brass is about $3,000 on the open market right now. And that it had been seen on a trailer covered with a blue tarp. But by the time the police checked it out, that trailer with the blue tarp was gone. And so we were both kind of lamenting this yesterday, saying, what a bummer story, really. And. And then not long after we got off the air, you sent me an update. What's the latest?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, apparently, ladies and gentlemen, the bell has been found.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thank you. Was I supposed to do that?

[Luke Burbank]

I was really hoping we're on the same page there. I didn't know how to communicate to you. We really, really needed the bell there. We don't have a lot of details about who took the bell or why they took it. All we know is, and I kind of like this dazzling detail, it was a parking enforcement officer who found it, I'm guessing based on the ticket tip from the tipster. God, I love saying tipster. We got to do more stories where we talk about tipsters. But the tipster had said, I saw this bell. It was amongst a bunch of construction debris on a trailer next to or somewhat hidden by a blue tarp. So I wonder if this parking enforcement officer, when he went out to make his rounds that day, had read the story and thought, oh, maybe I'll keep an eye out for a trailer with a blue tarp. And he did. That's all assumption on my part. Maybe he just sort of saw something that looks suspicious. But on duty, I believe over little. I really wanted to blame my friend for this because she lives on 82nd street and this was.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, do you have a cross street?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I know that it's Northeast 83rd. So Northeast means it's on the other side of the highway. We're talking like kind of the. Probably the Roosevelt or Ravenna area where I used to live. That's why I had to get out of there. Too many people are bringing bells there. So that's kind of a small, little chopped up Road. Northeast 83rd. I was Google mapping it yesterday, so I don't have the cross street.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is it over by, like, Blanchett High School?

[Luke Burbank]

Then no, that would still be west of the highway. This is east of the highway. This is more like Roosevelt. This would be more like kind of where that Safeway is that you talk about used to go to and that I. My Safeway, that's 75th, but by the res. North of that, by the way. Yeah, by the res. The rez is literally, I believe, Northeast 83rd and Roosevelt. So that could have been, it could have been literally on Roosevelt developed. But it's. Yeah, that's, that's the exact area.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is the I, I, this is the most I've ever liked a park. A parking enforcement person. Gotta give him, gotta give him his credit.

[Luke Burbank]

It's Michael, Officer Michael Eaton.

[Andrew Walsh]

I also really hope that he isn't the parking officer that I really reamed out 20 years ago once in the U District because that person looked not dissimilar to this guy. They both had gray hair. Although, although that would make that would, that, that was 25 years ago. So that'd be a long time on the job for Michael Eaton now.

[Luke Burbank]

Eagle Eyed Eaton, Eagle eyed as they.

[Andrew Walsh]

Call him now around the shop. Now let's get to the crime fighting of this, the crime solving of this. I feel like this should be. Well, first of all, do you think I'm the only one who thinks this is a high law enforcement priority? Because I guess it's been returned now. So it's like. Well, but it was 100,000. The value was $100,000. If you stole a $100,000 car out of someone's garage, I think it would be a big deal. And I feel like with all of the cameras that are mounted everywhere now and also with this trailer presumably having a tag on it or a license plate, maybe it doesn't. But like it seems like you could figure out who was hauling this trailer around with this junk in it. And also I was thinking the other day, why didn't the maintenance shop at Evergreen Washelli have like a blink camera on it? Like, you probably have a lot of tools and vehicles.

[Luke Burbank]

Why don't they have any kind of. A little. Everybody has security cameras these days, or almost everybody. We don't, don't steal our bells, but you know, almost everybody has those. Just homeowners have them. Why would you, if you're running a place that has such a big footprint in the city, you'd think there would be cameras all over the place. One interesting thing, I want to talk to you about the priority of this and the price of this thing and respond to what you Said in a second in a way that I don't think you're going to appreciate, but get your hackles up now and then raise them more later. But I was going to say I was digging around the Seattle subreddit about this a little bit, and a local homeowner near, like, very near the cemetery said, and, you know, this is. I can't verify any of this, although I don't know exactly why they'd lie. Somebody said, you know, I live near the cemetery, and I heard about this theft. So I went back and I checked my ring camera or whatever it was that sort of points in that direction, and they said, what time this happened. So I was able to like, kind of go back and look and use the timestamp and look what I found. And there's a very blurry photo of a white pickup truck. Okay. Pulling a trailer that. It looks like they actually did catch a blurry image of this truck driving away. Not an. Any. Not any license plate or anything. But I thought that was kind of interesting.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's the thing. Okay. If that's the nature of my question is how. How much, you know, how many resources or how much, you know, sort of person hours does the Seattle Police Department want to throw at this? Because if they just. If they wanted to, they could solve this crime, it would just mean they got to go knock on a lot of doors, they got to figure out what was the route of this thing and. And then go around and talk to all of the businesses where there are those security cameras. And piece. There's also license plate readers that are out in various places. Like, in other words, if this. If this person had abducted a child or if there was a, you know, a dead body in the truck or something, they would. They could very quickly figure out the route of this truck. They could piece. They could piece together a bunch of different camera angles and stoplight cameras, and they could totally figure this out. Do they want to do that kind of, you know, shoe leather work? I don't know, but it'll be curious to see again. I think this is solvable if they want to throw the hours at it.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. And I don't. I don't even know if I have an opinion on this, but this is my thought process on it. Because you say, like, I don't.

[Andrew Walsh]

I already don't.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, it was worth a hundred thousand. Get those hackles up. Everybody hackles up now. Like, you mentioned, like, the value of this. Right. So, like, here's the deal. It's a property crime Right. And like, yeah, Genevieve's friend and boss. Not two people. One in the same friend first, boss second. Had his car stolen somewhat recently, by the way. Stolen from, like, his neighborhood, which is nicer. Found in our neighborhood. You'll be shocked to hear. It's always like that. I told you, they shut down a chop shop literally two blocks from us the other day. And it was, by the way, a house. It was near. It was a house in our neighborhood anyway, so that's. That's how I'm living. J. Piven. But to say that, okay, so this thing has been found, and now supposedly, or let's presumably, it's been returned. Okay, so then you have this thing of, like, well, it was worth so much money, though. Should they track this person down? It's kind of like, well, what if I heard the police when. When Genevieve's friend called in and boss called this in, they're like, well, he had a tracker in his car. Okay. He had one of those square trackers or whatever you call it, and so he knew where it was. But they're like, yeah, well, you can go there and keep an eye out for it, and if you see the car, give us a call. But we're not going to, like, just, like, get a warrant and, like, stake out this place. It's like, okay, and, you know, we can talk about police and their priorities and what they should be doing, what they shouldn't be doing, but let's just accept it at face value that the police don't have the resources to track down every single stolen car or stolen bike. And then you start saying, well, if you have more value to it, but you're like, yeah, but does that mean that you're going to prioritize getting some rich person's, like, stolen Cybertruck back versus my shitty $2,000, like Toyota Tercel or whatever? I don't think.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

I wonder. They don't make tercels anymore, Right. Could you get a tercel that is up to $2,000. I paid $200 for my 19. What was it? A 95 Tercel I used to drive. So I don't know, you get into, like, kind of a weird area where it's kind of like, well, the. The. The valuables have been returned. Do we prioritize this more because it's worth more money than some poor person who had their car stolen? They can't get to work anymore, but the car was cheap, so we don't care.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I guess that's a good point. You're Just saying that to send, to put your best people on the case of the Liberty Bell, which is gonna go back to Evergreen Washelli, means one a person or maybe a certain number of people who need the police and don't have the resources are gonna be even less well serviced by the Seattle Police Department.

[Luke Burbank]

And they're very busy dressing up like prostitutes. And then this was another sting recently.

[Andrew Walsh]

They love, in the words of Michael.

[Luke Burbank]

Barbaro, oh, wow, that's solves so many of society's problems, doesn't it? When the cops are using their. Oh wow. They're constantly talking about how they don't have enough resources, but they do like a six month sting where they dress people up, like process. I see.

[Andrew Walsh]

So they take Seattle police officers and, and, and have them go out undercover as prostitutes on Aurora so as to get the. Well, let me put it this way. I'd rather they're arresting the customers than the women who are, who are, who are simply trying to survive. You know what I mean?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't want them arresting the women, certainly, most certainly. And I'm definitely on board with you there, but it just, it's like, it's a little galling that I just don't think that. I do think there's a problem with actual, not like, not, not coded, but actual aspects of human trafficking that goes on along with this kind of sex work that we're seeing. And it's also tied up in addiction and people who have lost like agency in their lives and are just, and being taken advantage of, to say the least. That's the most mild way you could put it. So I do think, I'm not trying to just make it sound like, hey, these are all just like all consenting adults doing their own thing, let's leave them alone. It's way, way, way more complicated than that. But when the police union and the police officers are constantly talking about not having like a lot of resources, I don't think that it solves the major issues of Seattle by doing these things that arrest. And again, men, I'm gonna guess usually poorer, usually browner men in north Seattle who are seeking out these, these you know, sex workers, you know, and I don't know what the nature of, what the nature of these johns are, to use that parlance, but it just sort of, it just sort of seems like what they want to do and it seems sort of seems like it flies in the face of what they tell us.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, it did end effectively the career of Mitch in the Morning, sort of.

[Luke Burbank]

Of course, Mitch Has a podcast now that the same guy whose car was stolen and is a friend of ours and Genevieve's boss, same person, huge fan of that podcast. He says it's really good and it's been around for years now. And the first episode, Mitch, like, really lays it out and tells his experience, and he says it's some of the most compelling, I bet. Like, well, that was relatable. But, you know, like, he had a.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, I was a fan of that radio show. I thought he was a very good broadcaster. And, I mean, that's one of those. Well, whatever. What am I. I don't know how I'm finding myself in the position of, like, litigating Mitch Levy's life decisions or something, but I will say that. I don't know. I don't want to grade these things or I don't want to rank these things. It sounded like the thing he was involved with was. How do I put this, Andrew?

[Luke Burbank]

Was it Robert Craftian? It.

[Andrew Walsh]

My sense of it was. It was in a fairly upscale apartment complex on the east side, where, again, I don't know. I'm making so many assumptions, but it.

[Luke Burbank]

Doesn'T sound like somebody was being majorly taken advantage of in a certain way because there is some sex work. That is not where the people who are providing the sex work are not victims. I mean, that does.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, in this case, there was literally no victim because it was a sting.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, right. Well, that's the other thing, too, that entrapment. Right. That's the thing that bothers me the most too, is like, you are not arresting these guys for doing anything illegal because they didn't do anything illegal because they didn't hire a prosecutor constitute. They approached a cop. But I guess that gets into some legal areas that I sure shouldn't speak on.

[Andrew Walsh]

But this was like a. It was. You know, I don't. Again, I don't know why I'm ranking the kind of human impact of these different ways that. That people are living their life. But to. To me, being somebody who's out on Aurora in cold weather wearing almost no clothing to where any random person could have you get in their car. Seems like a really, really tough, tough spot to be in. In your life.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And then I think there's Are. There are people who are sex workers who are their own bosses and who, you know, make their own choices and. And have, you know, upscale hotel rooms and apartments and whatever else, and have chosen this as their lifestyle, which I think should be their choice. You know, I kind of feel like there's a sort of a range of it. And the Levy thing, again, along with not even being a real person was like more on the. It would seem a person with agency end of the spectrum, if that makes sense.

[Luke Burbank]

That's the way it was presented. Yeah. And I, I don't know. I don't know enough about this world, believe it or not to. I don't to speak intelligently about it, but my assumption is that somewhere in this world there are people with agency.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Who are doing this sex work and making money off it and they're not necessarily being taken advantage of. Maybe somebody would say that that simply cannot be the case. I believe it could be the case if that's the case. I have no moral objection to that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, no. I mean, okay. This is such a. We, We've. We. We need to move on with our lives. A story about a bell got us here somehow. Maybe this is the bell I have to ring when I'm going so far off topic, so many topics there. I was reading a. An or an article I think it might have been in my local paper, the Colombian, about again. This is such a fraught world and a world that I really don't want to. I don't want to find myself on the wrong side of it with the listeners or like I'm defending any kind of behavior or minimizing any sort of a thing. But there is a very strange. Because police agencies seem to really like spending their time and resources in trapping people who are doing. Who have the inclination towards meeting someone who's underage or doing something that we would all agree is. Is illegal and a bad idea.

[Luke Burbank]

What are you doing here?

[Andrew Walsh]

This exactly the Chris Hansonification. It's like there was this article that basically it was, it was. There are, there are people who. And this is. Has to do with the way the laws are written in the state of Washington. Let's say that you're, you're somebody. And by the way, a lot of times it is. It is not infrequent that the, the local police department will set up some kind of a fake account on like some website somewhere and they will start chatting with someone and then they will tell this person that they are underage and this person will agree to meet them regardless. And then the person shows up and they get arrested. This seems to be one of the number one things that law enforcement likes to spend its time doing. Now the thing is, first of all, a good number of the people who show up are themselves neurodivergent in One way or another, maybe, you know, there are questions around, like if they're even sort of competent to make these kinds of decisions themselves. And then the penalty for this is often more stringent. There's more jail time associated with it. And the registering as a sex offender is more robust than if you had actually abused a human being, if you can believe this. There are people that are in the home environment and commit crimes against actual human underage people. And, and because of the way the code is written in Washington, there are times where those people are doing much less time than someone who answered a Craigslist ad and showed up at a house that was being run by local law enforcement where there was never a human being who was in danger. And it is obviously life ruining for these folks. Now listen, you shouldn't go online to meet someone who's not of the age of consent. I'm not trying to defend that behavior.

[Luke Burbank]

And if it's somebody who's exhibited this behavior in the past and you're, you're now catching this person because you have proof that they're out there hurting other people and this is the way to get them to stop, to get them off absolutely. The proverbial streets, I would understand that.

[Andrew Walsh]

But there is, in this article that I was reading, there were, there are a lot of cases where this is literally the first time the person has ever had an interaction with law enforcement. They might be younger. They are somebody who, who's, you know, maybe has difficulty in social situations. You know, some of them self identified as being on the spectrum, things like that, where this is, you know, obviously a terrible idea and it shouldn't be free of punishment. But there was something about the idea that when there's not ever an actual victim who is in harm's way, then that person who did this thing would be looking at a longer prison sentence than somebody who had harm an actual alive human being. I just, that just struck me as kind of out of whack.

[Luke Burbank]

Is this your next CBS piece? Have you pitched this?

[Andrew Walsh]

I have and it involves Kieran Culkin.

[Luke Burbank]

That's slander.

[Andrew Walsh]

How are you gonna summarize this important conversation we're having in the show description today?

[Luke Burbank]

Andrew, I don't know, goes to bat.

[Andrew Walsh]

For people trying to meet the underage.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you ever. That's an interesting question. We've never had this conversation. Do you ever go and look at the, look at the summary because I usually try to keep it two or three sentences tops. Do you ever look at the summary of the show and say it's funny that he led with that or that he emphasized that aspect of our conversations.

[Andrew Walsh]

I do not usually do that, but I can tell you that it is. Becca does that. She says, this is where I'm at in that.

[Luke Burbank]

Do I have to de. Emphasize certain things? Luke met with someone special at the state fair.

[Andrew Walsh]

Luke. Luke says it's time we relax the laws on people who meet underage folks online. No, but what she said to me the other day was. She was like, I don't listen to the show, but I do read the description just to kind of see what you're up to. I was like, that's a. That's. That's the phase we're in. I get it. I get it. There's a certain. There's a. There's a sort of a duration of time of being with me where you no longer need to listen to tbt. You no longer need to get that much Luke in your life.

[Luke Burbank]

I am. Can we just do something quickly? We should. We should wrap this up and maybe we can just make this the last segment. But here's what I want to do. I want to scroll back and look at some of these descriptions. I'm not going to read the whole thing. I'm only going to read the parts that relate to you and how they could be a window into your life or not. So let's just go Back to Monday, the 17th of February.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. Luke's birthday.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, there you go. Luke found himself in an unexpected broadcast on his frame. Frantic trip to Heathrow Airport. So that's a little. That doesn't paint you in a bad light. And I'm sure that Becca probably knew that story. Luke got quite the scare during yesterday's TBTL recording, but he learned a valuable lesson. Do you remember what that was about?

[Andrew Walsh]

I have no idea.

[Luke Burbank]

That was about you checking your. My chart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I could see if somebody loved you. Maybe being like, hey, what's. I could imagine if somebody loved you. Oh, no.

[Andrew Walsh]

Somebody loves me.

[Luke Burbank]

What happened here? Let's see.

[Andrew Walsh]

Luke, I did not get a call about that show description. So clearly somebody does not love me.

[Luke Burbank]

Let's see. Luke and Andrew also invest. This is a different episode, of course. Also investigate new and old claims regarding NBA players pooping their pants on the court. I think you're okay with. I think you're okay there.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Let's see. See here. What else were you up to? You filled out a survey yesterday to remind himself why he never fills out surveys.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. Yeah. That was the what was the. Was that your.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm trying to understand why she doesn't healthcare as well. Do I need to punch these up a little bit? No, that was. No, you know what that was. I went to the bank and I had a pleasant interaction and I was trying to throw that person a 10 out of 10 to help them with whatever their, you know, deliverables are. And then I found that the actual surplus survey was really long. And then you talked about how the Mariners were trying to trick you into saying you feel unsafe at the stadium so that they could clear out some unhoused folks.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. Good takeaway. I forgot about that. Luke and Andrew do some sleuthing to figure out why Luke suddenly has to take an FCC mandated training course about the emergency broadcast system.

[Andrew Walsh]

They're turning up the heat on me.

[Luke Burbank]

On that, by the way. Are they?

[Andrew Walsh]

But I thought.

[Luke Burbank]

You don't have the login. Or is this one of those things where you say you don't have the log in, but you actually do? You just.

[Andrew Walsh]

Dude, Andrew, 11:31am today. Today, while we were doing the show, Paramount Global compliance E. Training, legally required. Compliance training, action required.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, man. But you literally. You literally don't think that you're an employee who has the ability to log in or you just never set it up, some portal thing, because you don't do that.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, no, no, no. I. I'm. I have to. Because I have to do my expenses and I have to.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, so you can get. I thought you said that you don't have the access to.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, no, no. I'm saying I have access to some of this. I have set up. What I'm allowed to set up, I don't have, actually. Maybe you know what? This new one might have given me the keys to the kingdom. I've got an employee ID here and a password that's in the email, which, by the way, that seems like bad cybersecurity.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, they don't send me.

[Andrew Walsh]

They sent me me my employee id. And right below it is the email. Excuse me, Is the law as the password.

[Luke Burbank]

What if this whole thing is like the most aggressive internal like fishing trap ever? Right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Part of that is to. To see if people.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Oh, wow. We used to get those at apm.

[Andrew Walsh]

Cyber security sake.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't think you used to get these because you didn't check your APM email, but they used to send out APM to its own employees. The IT department. Department would send out fake phishing emails. This is the beginning of a social engineering attack. If you Clicked on it, they'd be like, oh, naughty you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, wow. Do you think viacom-console.lrn.com login does that sound like a. Like a Nigerian scam?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know. That sounds legit. I gotta say, if I. If somebody loved me, I would be concerned about this. Andrew feels guilty over something he did at a pizza shop this weekend.

[Andrew Walsh]

That.

[Luke Burbank]

Came off a little harsher than maybe. Anyway, you hooked up your new record player. You're in good shape. You're fine.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I mean, allegedly. At least according to those. At least according to those show descriptions. Well, we're glad. All that is to say, we're glad the Liberty Bell is back at Evergreen, Wash. Shelley.

[Luke Burbank]

We are.

[Andrew Walsh]

Or soon will be. Be. And I hope they break it out this year. I hope they. You know, for 4th of July or whatever the thing is, whatever the idea of that thing is or why they had it. I hope that. You know, you don't know what you got till it's gone.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. And you know, it did answer. Remember I started the story yesterday by saying I saw that bell in Washelli as I would walk through the cemetery to get a breath of fresh air. And I always wondered. I wondered so much that I placed a call to find out what the hell was going on with that bell. Nobody returned my phone call. Call. But now I have the answers. It's used for ceremonies like memorial.

[Andrew Walsh]

Actually, that's another thing I hadn't even thought about. You're no longer the prime suspect. It's been returned. I mean, you might be the prime suspect. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

There's still a suspect out there. Still.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is this why you don't want them? Oh, my God, Andrew. This is why you're trying to talk the Seattle police out of investigating this whole thing?

[Luke Burbank]

Can I be totally honest with you? It wasn't a bell. It was a cop dressed up like a bell.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I. There was. Is no real threat. Do you realize, Andrew, you could do more time. Try to steal a bell, a person, fake bell dressed up like a bell.

[Luke Burbank]

It is tax season, so you got a lot of people who are dressed up like statues of Liberty and whatever. So you got to be careful before you steal a statue.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's going to do it for today's show. Thank you, everyone. We will be back here tomorrow with a more imaginary radio for you. In the meantime, have a great Tuesday. Take care of yourself, yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Luke Burbank]

And good luck to all. Power out.