#4417 More Like Adrien Grody

Summary

TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live – Episode #4417: More Like Adrien Brody
Release Date: March 6, 2025

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Introduction and Episode Overview

In episode #4417 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live, hosts Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh dive into a variety of topics with their signature blend of humor and camaraderie. From dissecting the tumultuous week of actor Adrien Brody to sharing heartfelt listener messages, the duo ensures a lively and engaging conversation for both regular listeners and newcomers alike.

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Adrien Brody’s Unusual Oscar Week

The centerpiece of the episode revolves around Adrien Brody’s unexpected experiences following his second Academy Award win. Contrary to the celebratory atmosphere typically accompanying such an achievement, Brody finds himself the subject of widespread roasting and criticism.

Luke Burbank [02:07]: "Adrien Brody's been having a weird week. He apparently made the mistake of winning his second Academy Award and then seeming very, I guess maybe proud of himself about it. And now everybody's roasting Adrien Brody."

Luke and Andrew explore the backlash Brody is facing, touching upon his memorable yet controversial moments, including his infamous appearance as the poor SNL host.

Andrew Walsh [07:05]: "I don't know if I do know, honestly."

The hosts express their bewilderment over the negativity surrounding Brody, questioning how such a celebrated actor could find himself in hot water post-Oscar.

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Host Dynamics and Show Identity

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to highlighting the unique dynamic between Luke and Andrew. They humorously dissect their personalities, emphasizing how their differences fuel the vibrant energy of TBTL.

Andrew Walsh [03:20]: "I still don't understand what it means in the context of the show. And I don't know what it means as a drop."

Luke Burbank [06:10]: "We're very, very aligned."

While acknowledging their contrasting personalities, they agree that these differences prevent the show from becoming monotonous, distinguishing them from other podcasts dominated by similar personalities.

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Fresca and Burp Rankings

Luke and Andrew indulge in their ongoing fascination with Fresca, a recurring comedic element that has become a staple of their banter. They discuss the endless supply of Fresca cans Luke has accumulated and humorously rank their favorite burp moments.

Andrew Walsh [09:24]: "I think Brody has this... It's a little gross. But the Fresca burp is wonderful."

The playful discussion underscores their lighthearted approach to maintaining the show's entertaining atmosphere.

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Listener Support and Messages

Expressing gratitude towards their dedicated listeners, Luke and Andrew highlight the importance of voluntary donations in keeping TBTL running. They acknowledge supporters like Derek Schlichter from Kenmore, Washington, and emphasize the community aspect of their podcast.

Luke Burbank [13:24]: "There are more ways than ever to get TBTL on social media."

The hosts read and respond to various listener messages, celebrating birthdays and acknowledging personal milestones with warmth and humor.

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Discussion on SNL Skit with Adrien Brody

A substantial segment focuses on Adrien Brody’s infamous Saturday Night Live (SNL) skit, where his over-the-top portrayal as a host garnered negative attention. The hosts, joined by guest Genevieve, dissect the nuances of the performance and its aftermath.

Genevieve [25:18]: "I dislike anybody that Tina Fey dislikes reflexively."

They analyze Brody’s actions during the skit, his relationship with SNL, and the broader implications of his behavior in the public eye.

Luke Burbank [28:55]: "We have little Maxes."

The conversation combines insightful critique with their characteristic humor, offering listeners a thorough examination of the situation.

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Closing Remarks

As the episode draws to a close, Luke and Andrew continue to share anecdotes and listener messages, maintaining an engaging and personable tone. They reflect on past episodes, tease future content, and reiterate their appreciation for the support that makes TBTL possible.

Andrew Walsh [59:32]: "And that's where we end things."

The hosts sign off with a promise of more engaging content, leaving listeners eagerly anticipating the next episode.

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Notable Quotes

• Luke Burbank [16:13]: "Happiness of another person is essential to your own happiness."

• Andrew Walsh [05:00]: "I just love that for you. Can I go back to the SNL thing for a second."

• Luke Burbank [22:18]: "But they have a key ingredient in common with the podcast that I love."

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Conclusion

Episode #4417 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live offers a compelling mix of pop culture commentary, personal reflections, and community interaction. Through their candid discussions and humorous exchanges, Luke and Andrew create an inviting space for listeners to engage with current events and personal stories alike. Whether dissecting Adrien Brody's Hollywood hurdles or celebrating listener milestones, this episode encapsulates the essence of what makes TBTL a beloved daily show.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Do you live in a hole or boat? Neither. Okay, I didn't get that. I think you chose boat. Is that right?

[Andrew Walsh]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, let's move on. Is your boat a C class licensed boat or is your boat used for commercial fishing? Okay, I think you've chosen commercial fishing. Now, I'm going to need your boat's name. What is going on here? Okay, I think you've said targets. Is this correct?

[Andrew Walsh]

What? No.

[Luke Burbank]

Just to make sure I've gotten all the information correct, I'm going to need to confirm a. I need some help, please. Your name is Eric Targus. Is this correct? Okay, I'll go ahead and make that change. Great. I've made the change. Your wife's new legal name is Targus.

[Andrew Walsh]

Targus.

[Luke Burbank]

Is this okay?

[Andrew Walsh]

No. Great. TBTL.

[Luke Burbank]

Hey, two things.

[Andrew Walsh]

First, FYI, I found out it's free.

[Luke Burbank]

Sausage night tonight at the waffle place. All you can eat. Secondly, and more important, how do you feel it went out there?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, my God. That is still good meat on that fish, kid.

[Luke Burbank]

Am I lying?

[Andrew Walsh]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is crazy.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm hip. I surf the web.

[Andrew Walsh]

I text. Lol. Laugh out loud. Omg. Oh, my God.

[Luke Burbank]

Wtf. By the face Mike.

[Andrew Walsh]

If they do good, put it on YouTube. If they do bad, cancel it.

[Luke Burbank]

All right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It is our turn. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I'll do it until it stops.

[Andrew Walsh]

Will you please stop?

[Luke Burbank]

Coming to you from the Madrona Hills studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where. Oh, Ma Pa. It's just beautiful, gorgeous Thursday here in the Pacific Northwest. And we are all ready to go with episode 4417 in a collector series.

[Andrew Walsh]

Let the fun begin.

[Luke Burbank]

Adrien Brody's been having a weird week. He apparently made the the mistake of winning his second Academy Award and then seeming very, I guess maybe proud of himself about it. And now everybody's roasting Adrien Brody.

[Andrew Walsh]

Boom. Roasted.

[Luke Burbank]

Not the typical way the week goes if you are somebody who. Who won an Academy Award. But that's what's happening for him. We'll talk about that. Also, it's a Thursday, AKA Blurs day. We'll do the Blurs day messages and we will talk to this guy, longest running cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I consider him a best friend of sorts.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm his best friend also. Co boss.

[Luke Burbank]

He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining Me right now. Good morning, my best friend.

[Andrew Walsh]

Good morning, co boss. I. You know that drop, I'm his best friend and co boss. It makes me laugh. I remember pulling it from I'm his best friend, also co boss, early episode of the Detroiters, or I pulled it a long time ago. I don't remember how it ended up in your hands. But the thing is, I still don't understand what it means. I don't understand what it means in the context of the show. And I don't know what it means as a drop. They're just, I'm his best friend, also co boss. How can you be somebody's co boss?

[Luke Burbank]

He's saying that. What's the name of the advertiser? Cramble and Duvet.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's not Duvet. But you're so close. You're closer than I would have gotten. Let's go with that.

[Luke Burbank]

It's not Cramblin Duvet.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe it is Cramlin Duvet. My apologies. I thought it.

[Luke Burbank]

You tell him what's up, Doc?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Thanks.

[Luke Burbank]

So that would mean a lot.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, actually, the thing about that drop that I'm remembering is I grabbed it from a same. From the same episode that I grabbed another Detroiters drop that I maybe never even used before because it's another thing that sounds funny, but I don't know what it means. And I am. Can you tell that I'm struggling to find it here? I found it and we're going to play it.

[Luke Burbank]

Love it.

[Andrew Walsh]

That Co boss drop, I believe comes from the same episode that this drop comes from another thing that makes me laugh, although I don't know what it means.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, I think Hammers did more.

[Andrew Walsh]

For Home Depot than Home Depot did for Hammers. Right?

[Luke Burbank]

What the.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know. And I pulled it and I thought, someday I'll use it. And it took about, I don't know, eight years. And here we are using it as a conversation piece to set the tone of the show.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I've got a new favorite piece of tape. I'll do it until it stops. Will you please stop watching that commercial? I watched that commercial like 100 times this morning. I can't get over it.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know. I gotta say, when we were talking about it on the show yesterday, and of course I had talked about it and after these messages, I was kind of like, oh, this was a huge viral thing back in 2013. We're sort of late to the game. But I also felt relieved that because I don't know if you're like me, Luke, I actually think you're exactly like me. You and I, a lot of people, they see us and they're like, boy, those guys, they. They're exactly the same.

[Luke Burbank]

Yep.

[Andrew Walsh]

Somebody did say that about us once. And I was like, uh, oh, do you know what I'm talking about? No, actually, I'll just tell this story. I think it's okay to say. When I was hired at kcrw, you were friends with Madeline Brand. And it's probably one of the reasons I was able to get that job is because of our connection and us working together. And she respects you guys work together, so that's a pretty good reference. I don't think you were actually a reference, but, like, you know, there was that connection. And so then I wasn't sure if I wanted the job or not. They offered me the job, I took the job. I went down to LA and it was my very first day, and Madeline introduced me to somebody and she was beaming and she said, this is Andrew. He's just like Luke. And I was like, oh, this isn't going to go well. I am the. Do you think we're more alike or more different? Wow, this is gonna get heavy on a Thursday morning. But are we more alike or different?

[Luke Burbank]

I think we're more different. I think we're very different. I think we have some shared, we have some overlaps, and we have the. The things that are critical for doing this show, for doing TBTL about, like, what we think is interesting. Like the kind of tape we like to play.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. Radio. Yes. Radio Sensibility.

[Luke Burbank]

We're very, very aligned.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like.

[Luke Burbank]

Like I have. I can't think of a time when you've ever edited something and I thought, oh, that's not how I would have cut that, or whatever like that. So that's really good. We're totally aligned on that stuff.

[Andrew Walsh]

For the one piece of Maria Bamford tape, which you thought I cut too early, called me out on the show about that. The dance monkey one.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

I divided it up into. Anyway, go ahead. Generally, the north remembers, but.

[Luke Burbank]

But, so. But then personality wise, I think we're very, very, very different, which is also good for the show because, yeah, if we had the same personality, it would be kind of boring. We would be like the Nelk Boys or one of those podcasts that are much more popular than us, but that are just a bunch of guys in, like, who. Their haircut. They kind of look vaguely like some sort of a French dog. Like, you know, this. This very in style haircut for. For Kind of young men, men in their 20s, which is, like, all kind of combed forward.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know if I do know, honestly.

[Luke Burbank]

It's. It's rough. I mean, it's one of the. It's rough for me. I guess it's. It's one of the signs that I just am totally not connected to the. What is popular anymore because there's a certain, you know, for kids between the age of. Probably for, you know, boys between the age of, let's say, 15 and, like, 30, they're all. I don't even know what it's called. If I were to describe it as a Caesar cut, that would not actually do it justice. It's like, just. And I don't know what the. I don't know what the hairstyle is called, but it's just basically like everything's just kind of swooped forward.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, is it usually with curly hair, though? Like, it's not that alpaca cut thing that.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, no, it's usually. Yeah, you're right. It's usually generally more curly.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, the kind of alpaca. Yeah, That's. That's really cute. That's really cute.

[Luke Burbank]

I think.

[Andrew Walsh]

You don't like it?

[Luke Burbank]

It's not for me.

[Andrew Walsh]

I guess it depends on who you see it on and who you're comparing it. It sounds like you have a context for this that is related to things you don't like on Tick Tock maybe.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, what did. There's just a lot of these podcasts that are just like three or four bros sitting around with that hairstyle. Just full sending, everything. Oh, yeah, man. You just got a full send.

[Andrew Walsh]

And, like, that's news to me.

[Luke Burbank]

Are you familiar with full send?

[Andrew Walsh]

No, no, I don't play around in these spaces.

[Luke Burbank]

Full send is just this idea of, like, really going for it. Like. Yeah, it's a full send. And just like, these guys that have no distinguishable personalities that I can tell, and they all seem like kind of a version of the same one. There's this one in particular that's called, like, the Nelk Boys.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nelk.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. And like, Trump went on it.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's very one of those.

[Luke Burbank]

But it. Yeah. And the good news for us is that we have different enough personalities that we'll never be confused with the Nelk Boy.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. I'm more of a Nelk boy. You're more of a milkman. That's. That's how we sort of separate ourselves out.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm more of a Fresca man.

[Andrew Walsh]

Andrew, do you oh, you drinking a morning fresco? You taking a page from my book. Two morning frescoes. Look at you.

[Luke Burbank]

Way to greet the day. This is turning into a situation.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

I brought two Frescas. I knew one Fresca was not going to be enough.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know.

[Luke Burbank]

And I was right. Promises made, promises kept. I'm into Fresca number two.

[Andrew Walsh]

Dude, I know I already said this on the show, but the worst thing Genevieve could have ever said to me is that Fresca isn't bad for you, because I'm pushing the boundaries of that. Like, I'm like, oh, this is better for you than water. That's how I heard it. She's like, oh, yeah, it has zero calories. I'm like, oh, so it's better for you than water. Which is not what she said and not scientifically sound, but I love it so much. It's so satisfying. And I think we've probably talked about this. It's going to. It's a little bit. It's a little bit, you know, biological. That's the wrong word there. It's a little gross. But the Fresca burp is wonderful. If you're super thirsty, like, there's different times you're gonna drink Fresca. Sometimes you're gonna sip it in the morning like a gentleman, like you are.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sometimes, though, you're gonna be, like, legitimately thirsty. Like, and you're gonna. You would go to reach for water or maybe even Gatorade and drink it down, but then there's a can of Fresca sitting there, and you're like, well, maybe Fresca could do the trick. Here it open, and you drink the entire can almost in one gulp.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

And then you wait, and then when it comes, it's one of the best burps. If you had to rank burps, that's maybe my top burp.

[Luke Burbank]

I think the top burp is where we. Is if you've been having, like, Asian food, like, maybe Thai food. Thai, probably. And you're drinking a beer or na Beer or whatever, and you have that burp. Yeah, the beer with the, like, very flavorful Asian food thing.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's it.

[Luke Burbank]

I put that in the top. In the top five.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know what helps there is the type of beer that is usually served with that kind of food, too. Right. It's a very, like, kind of.

[Luke Burbank]

It's a very Tingtao or a Sahi or Kirin. One of those dry ones.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. And very sparkly and very kind of light tasting. Yeah, that's. That's A good burp. I wish I could come up with a top five burps on the fly, but I don't think I can do that while we're, while we're talking. But those are two good contenders.

[Luke Burbank]

The thing about this Fresca is it's. They keep offering like these absolutely ridiculous deals on it at the store. So I like, I'm like sitting, I'm sitting, I'm sitting on like 200 cans of frescoes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Woohoo deals.

[Luke Burbank]

It keeps being this thing where it's like, buy one 18 pack, get three free 18 packs. I'm like, I don't understand the business. I don't understand the economics of this, but I just keep getting them. And I'm, you know, I'm but a man. I'm just one person here, but I literally have probably, I don't know, 70 cans of fresco or something. And I. And you're right, it's a great morning drink because it's sort of, you know, it's kind of has a, you know, a citrus flavor to it, a grapefruit flavor. It kind of feels like you're having a little healthy morning juice.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

But it is thirst quenching. After I mowed the lawn the other day.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, by the way, I Blue sky you, me straightening out the lawnmower blade in the vise. I felt very, very masculine, you know.

[Andrew Walsh]

You Blue sky me. I thought it was a photo of just your. The lawn after you'd gotten done mowing it. Maybe I looked at it too quickly because I felt.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that was part of it. But in order to get to the lawn. To the mowing of the lawn. Yeah, I had to, I had to take off the blades and straighten them out, you know, like I was some kind of a blacksmith. And then put them back on the lawnmower and then tighten the whole thing back down. And it totally worked.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know what's worth mentioning here, if you don't mind, is TBTL is on Blue Sky. Now, by the way, if you're somebody who wants to follow, because you and I are both on there as ourselves, I think I'm just straight up Walsh, Blue sky. You're, I think, Luke Burbank, I think. But also thanks to the hard work of one John P. Sklarov. I don't think it's P. Right, but we'll go with it. You just look for tbtow.net on Blue Sky. And in the whole show, the show, the combined efforts of the three business boys will be represented there on Blue Sky. If you're looking for a new follow and there's.

[Luke Burbank]

Is. Is it actually a bot?

[Andrew Walsh]

Is there.

[Luke Burbank]

Did somebody write a program that reposts TBTL on Blue Sky?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I think that's something else that then John sometimes reposts. But yeah, there is a bot out there that I have some theories on who created it. But yeah. So there are. There are more ways than ever to get TBTL on social media.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Walsh]

In this fractured media landscape.

[Luke Burbank]

Get it wherever you get your nelk boys.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, yes, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

I'll do it until it stops.

[Andrew Walsh]

Will you please stop? Why? He drops a. Why?

[Luke Burbank]

We was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark.

[Genevieve]

Get set, get set now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ready?

[Luke Burbank]

Ready, Go.

[Andrew Walsh]

Everybody rattles dazzle.

[Luke Burbank]

All right, let's thank some dazzling donors. These are the folks. Until we get those Nelk Boy numbers for the time being, the way that this show can exist is because of voluntary donations. 100% listener supported. Our attempts to get sponsored by Fresca have so far been unsuccessful. What's the other thing? We've been doing a bunch of. What is the other thing? I'm constantly doing free ads for junks, Chipmunks. John reached out to somebody, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

Alvin or Simon?

[Luke Burbank]

No, I think some other product that I'm up to.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know you're talking about it on Instagram. I don't, I don't. I mean, I recall you mentioning this, but I don't actually know what you're talking about.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, the upshot is, for now, this is 100% listener supported listeners like Derek Schlichter of Kenmore, Washington.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thanks, Derek.

[Luke Burbank]

Hey, dummies. Another year, another victory for the OGs taking out the sweats. The haters among us. Ain't no imposters here. They've all self selected out. Wow, that's a good point. I think we've probably. We've weeded out anybody who is not Ride or Die with tbtl.

[Andrew Walsh]

That feels like a quote, though. Ain't no imposters here. They've all self selected out. Is that. Is that just.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, that's not the. That's maybe because that's not the extension of. Let's see, another.

[Andrew Walsh]

I am, I'm there, I'm not. Another victory for the OG taking down the sweats. The imposters among us.

[Luke Burbank]

He does say the imposter among us.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ain't no imposters among us.

[Luke Burbank]

All right, this is my third year struggling to come up with a new dazzling message. And I'm already out of material. Seriously, guys, how do you do it every day?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, you hear the burp segment?

[Luke Burbank]

Have you heard the show where we were ranking burps?

[Andrew Walsh]

Sorry to cut you off. See, we are in sync. We're going for the same thing.

[Luke Burbank]

This year has been tough for a lot of people in a number of ways. So my message to the tens this year is what I'm focusing on myself. Driving the change that I want to see in the world and all that, which is to stick together, to be a voice for the voiceless, to spend time in nature, to ask questions, to never stop learning and don't pay attention to what others think of you and always follow the most interesting path. Lastly, and not to get too sappy, love is a condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own happiness. Stay sentimental and love your neighbor.

[Andrew Walsh]

Peace. That's an interesting definition of love that I had not heard put that way before.

[Luke Burbank]

Happiness of another person is essential to your own happiness. That is a really interesting way to put it. And I do think. I think that's a. An important thing is that my sense is that true happiness and true fulfillment comes being really fulfilled, comes from being good to other people. Like. And I am somebody who in my own life has followed many selfish roads. And I've always thought, well, if I just have everything set up for me perfectly, then that's how I'm going to feel the happiest. And what I find is that when I'm actually being relatively of service to other people or the people I love, then I actually feel that gives me the feeling that I think I'm going to get from sitting on my deck and listening to my Sonos and staring at the river.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, this is not what Derek is saying. And I don't want to misinterpret. This is Derek's dime, as you like to say. This is Derek's message. So I don't. I'm not.

[Luke Burbank]

Derek is a Kenmore dime.

[Andrew Walsh]

Presuming. I'm not presuming the Bellevue 6. I know I was trying to think, what is the town that we can. Anyway, but I remember being kind of young and, you know, growing up in the Catholic Church and maybe it was even like at Catholic school. I don't know if it was at Catholic school or in church or CCD or whatever it was, but being at a certain age where somebody said, love is not a feeling, love is an action, it's not a feeling. And really blowing my mind at that point and being like, what. What does that mean? Because, like, love doesn't even mean. And again, this is not what Derek is necessarily saying here. And I think there's a lot of ways to look at love, and there are a lot of different kinds of love, but whether I always mispronounce it. I grew up calling it agape, but.

[Luke Burbank]

Is it actually agape love?

[Andrew Walsh]

Is it actually agape?

[Luke Burbank]

I feel like I grew up. Listen, I grew up. We said agape love, but also I grew up thinking that The Earth was 6,000 years old. Right, right. I'm not going to trust anything that was going on at Gospel Outreach Christian Fellowship.

[Andrew Walsh]

Are they ever going to adjust that number, though? Is it ever going to be, like, 6,500 or something? I feel like we've been saying that a long time. But anyway, we. I feel like we, as a podcast, have been saying that the world is 6,000 years old for a long time now. But anyway, I just remember that sort of blowing my mind. The ide love not being how you feel about somebody or how they feel about you back, but the actions you put into the world, no matter how you feel about the people that you may be helping.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely. Derek, thanks for supporting the show, and thanks for the nice. The nice message today. Maestro, on your mark. On your mark.

[Genevieve]

Get set now.

[Luke Burbank]

Ready, ready, go. Everybody rattle. I missed my chance to take another swig of my fresco.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can you get through this? Do you need me to fill a bus? Dragon, swell the music.

[Luke Burbank]

Let's thank Kate Freed, who's in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hello, Kate. Thank you, Kate.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm coming your way. In a couple of weeks. I'm going to be judging the world Mustard Competition in Middleton, Wisconsin.

[Andrew Walsh]

You're going to use the drop, aren't you? The Kendrick I was at the Eagles yesterday.

[Luke Burbank]

I only learned that that was mustard, like, around the time of the Super Bowl.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, because it's DJ Mustard, or a producer's name is Mustard, I think. But yeah, but the. I was. It wasn't at the Eagles. Where was I? Maybe even at the gym, which is even more healthy than the Eagles. I saw on a TV recently that the volume was turned down on. I saw, like, the word mustard go across the screen. I'm like, okay, this is clearly a reference closed captioning song. No, no, no. It was, like, dynamic text.

[Luke Burbank]

Huge.

[Andrew Walsh]

It was like, commercial or something. Okay. And then I'm like, what is this? And then it was Heinz mustard commercial. And again, the TV was pretty far away from me, so I couldn't scan what was going on. But did Mustard, the producer actually, like, pen a deal with Heinz to sell mustard. Like, that's kind of. That's kind of the dream if you're Mustard, right?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I'm looking it up right now.

[Andrew Walsh]

It looks like you're busy over there.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I am. Oh, you know how he's called Mustard? His first name is Dijon.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, really? No, I didn't know.

[Luke Burbank]

DJ and record producer Mustard, aka Dijon McFarlane.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that's his given name.

[Luke Burbank]

Is collaborating. Yeah. Which that makes a lot of sense, is collaborating with Heinz to create a limited edition mustard and host events. God, if they could get him to the Mustard Championship in Middleton, Wisconsin. What a guess.

[Andrew Walsh]

What a world.

[Luke Burbank]

I need to figure out what I'm going to name my production, like, Persona that's aligned with a product that I want to do ads for. Maybe Fresca.

[Andrew Walsh]

DJ Fresca?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Is that taken?

[Andrew Walsh]

Can I be MC Squirt?

[Luke Burbank]

No. Those are just so like, DJ Fresca sounds kind of cool and MC Squirt.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sounds like a sex crime.

[Luke Burbank]

Sounds like something you should talk to your doctor about. Kate says the New York Times. Melissa Kirsch speaks for me. This is something I'm guessing was written in the New York times as of 8:3 of 24. Okay, so sort of been back in. That's August last year. Quote, this is again, Melissa Kirsch in the New York Times. This is Kate Freed's dazzling donor message. Quote, the shows I love aren't the ones where a host tees up questions and a dutiful guest answers. They're the ones where they rank burps. Yes, they're the ones where you feel like you're eavesdropping on real people getting closer. Closer to each other or closer to a conversational destination that they didn't know they were headed for.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, wow, wow, wow.

[Luke Burbank]

That, like, for instance, I didn't know today that I was going to be yelling Fresco. In fact, nobody knew we were going to be doing that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Although after chugging two cans of Fresca, that is a common side I'm feeling.

[Luke Burbank]

A little loopy from.

[Andrew Walsh]

That.

[Luke Burbank]

Is what makes a conversation interesting to take part in, the same as what makes one interesting to listen to. My favorite conversations, the one in which I feel most connected, are sprawling, digressive, even repetitive. God, this is a full throated defense of tbtl.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is Melissa Kirsch listening? Is the New York Times Melissa Kirsch listening to tbtl? And if not, can we get her to listen?

[Luke Burbank]

I have never. Yes, I powered through that more validated Powered through that verb.

[Andrew Walsh]

I just mullaned through that.

[Luke Burbank]

They go on for hours and often fail to reach a coherent conclusion. Okay, now that's sitting a little close to my.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wait, is this real?

[Luke Burbank]

But they have a key ingredient in common with the podcast that I love. Presence in the best conversations. Everyone is listening closely. They're curious about each other. They're reacting authentically in the moment without a script or any agenda. They're allowing the conversation to happen without muscling it toward any predetermined outcome. End quote. And then Kate says, carry on tbtl. That's amazing. Thank you so much for sharing that with us, Kate. I did not. I've never seen that before. This description of a conversation, and it does feel extremely validating.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, it really does.

[Luke Burbank]

It's pretty much exactly what goes on here five days a week.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. But I do want to force the conversation here. I want to talk about tariffs a little bit. Is that. It's been on my list. Here's my question.

[Luke Burbank]

Who pays the tariff? It's China right Of pays the tariff.

[Andrew Walsh]

Why is this happening? No, why is this happening on the show? Right.

[Luke Burbank]

I had a. I had what I thought was a pretty fire blue sky post the other day. Wall Street Journal headline, Tariff War Risk Sinking World into New Great Depression. International Chamber of Commerce warns. And my spot. My response was, okay, but what might the impact be on podcasting?

[Andrew Walsh]

Good.

[Luke Burbank]

Because, you know, that's always in the forefront of my mind.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

The entire economy collapses. And then somebody said what somebody said in the comments, I don't think you're going to raise enough money this year or something like, let me see if I can.

[Andrew Walsh]

They were gently ribbing or just.

[Luke Burbank]

No, I think they were worried for us. They said, I don't think you'll meet your fundraising goals this year, to be honest. Oh, my God, Gary, I hope you're wrong.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, no. This has got me anxious.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I think. I think Gary is just being a realist. But I'm hoping we hit our goals for the next thon. I am excited about the next Thawne. It's going to be. It's going to be really, really fun, and I think people are going to love it and hopefully they will keep supporting us like Kate has done and Derek has done. Thank you so much for making TBTL possible. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. All right, our top story today, the defenestration of Adrien Brody, which, by the way, is a thing that will probably happen in a movie he's starring in at some point.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, this is my favorite joke. I've, I've been saying it on TBTL left and right. It's by way of Nikki Glaser, who was, I think at the Golden Globes saluted Adrien Brody as two time Holocaust survivor.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think about that. You mentioned that on the show. I didn't even hear her say it. Such a good joke, you repeating that. Has had, I think about it every time I see his face now. It's such a good joke because it.

[Luke Burbank]

Just seems like he's got this, I mean, it's obviously the pianist and now the Brutalist. You know, these are these two roles that have gotten him Oscars and I haven't seen either movie, but I feel like they're somehow kind of related. Anyway, Genevieve is stopping by to talk. Brody with us. Welcome to the show.

[Genevieve]

Hi.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey.

[Luke Burbank]

Thank you. Thanks for being here.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thanks for making the trek in.

[Luke Burbank]

There was this whole, like, I guess there was all this stuff going on with Adrien Brody that I was totally unfamiliar with. Like, I remember when he won an Oscar for the Pianist. I recently watched the Darjeeling Limited for some reason, which is like kind of a random movie to watch. But he's in that, of course, and I thought was pretty good. And then, you know, he, he won for the Brutalist. I didn't think much of it. But then almost immediately after he won, everybody was so upset at how long his, his speech went. And then I guess the speech was all about how like he was almost out of Hollywood, but he wasn't. And, and then all this other stuff was surfacing about how like, people don't like Adrien Brody. What is, what's your relationship with Adrien Brody been over the years, Genevieve?

[Genevieve]

Well, I dislike anybody that Tina Fey dislikes reflexively.

[Luke Burbank]

So she legitimately dislikes him.

[Genevieve]

Well, I don't know what her personal feelings are, but I remember she has said sort of on the record, I think she like mouthed it in response to a question about who the worst host of SNL was.

[Luke Burbank]

And this is a show that's been hosted by Donald Trump.

[Genevieve]

Although I think when she said, when she gave this interview, it was like before all of our current crisis. Before the current crisis. But yeah, she has said that or intimated that Brody was one of the worst hosts. I think tied with Paris Hilton, who she also didn't much care for. But the reason that he was such a famously bad host of SNL is like really obvious because if you go, I forget when it was. But you know, obviously now, decades ago, Christina Fey was still head writer, I assume, and Sean Paul was the musical guest.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, this is the reggae thing.

[Genevieve]

The reggae thing. And Adrien Brody. And there's a lot of. There's a lot of debate about whether or not this was sanctioned or he did it. He went rogue. Who cares? Who knows? But he went out to introduce Sean Paul, as you're just supposed to say. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Paul. That's like the simplest part of the whole gig. And he comes out in full, like Rasta, like locks of the wig. And.

[Luke Burbank]

And he's shirtless. This is the first time realizing he's.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wearing like a sleeveless white tank top. Yeah, we played this tape on the show the other day.

[Genevieve]

Garment that once upon a time would have been called a wife beater.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, gotcha.

[Andrew Walsh]

We played this tape on the show the other day because Andy Richter retweeted it on Blue Sky. We got his stuff.

[Genevieve]

I love that messy bitch. He will shit talk anybody.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly. And, well, I guess Adrien Brody. I didn't watch the Oscars, but apparently while Adrien Brody was going on and on and ignoring the walk off music, or whatever you call it, the playoff music during the Oscars, Andy Richter just retweeted that scene and said he went on a little bit long here too, as he's out there. And I'm looking for it now as excruciating. I just watched.

[Genevieve]

I just rewatched it in preparation for this conversation. And it is. It is excruciating. I think it's a draw between which is more kind of cringy and endless to listen to his Oscar acceptance speech or this SNL bit. So he's doing like this really over the top, exaggerated, like Rasta, you know, Jamaican voice.

[Andrew Walsh]

It took me a while, but I got it here. Want to just hear it? So this is 45 seconds.

[Genevieve]

That'll be twice for me today.

[Luke Burbank]

I can put down half of Fresca during this.

[Andrew Walsh]

A lot of Fresca talk today.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, Rush stuff around, you know, you got the whole family in the house, you know. You know, we got Sean Peter, you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Know, you got Sean Paul, you got Sean Mary, you got Sean John.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, we all in the house now, man. You know, respect all aspect, you know, me respect me next, you know. Yeah, we got a great show, you know, like Kingston Massive.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

We got the whole crew now. You know, I give a big up enough respect a dancehall players, you know, like Sean John.

[Andrew Walsh]

And then he introduces him as Sean John, which is the wrong name. It's Sean.

[Luke Burbank]

He was Sean Paul.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, my God. You had one job.

[Andrew Walsh]

He does all of that.

[Luke Burbank]

I fail so badly at this.

[Andrew Walsh]

It introduces a clothing brand by P. Diddy.

[Genevieve]

By P. Diddy. Also that's aged poorly, you know. Yeah. And I think it's so telling that he got it wrong, because clearly it had nothing. He was there for Adrian and not for the musical guest.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. Well put.

[Genevieve]

And that just. That really sums up to me in a weird way, even though it's such a different kind of unpleasant performance, that sums up the impression I get from him, which is that he is just up his own ass so constantly. And the kind of speech that he gave to. I don't know if you listened to it, but it's this, like, very dramatic. Oh. Acting is this most important thing. And that's why I don't actually watch. The main reason I don't even watch the Oscars anymore, because even though I like. Obviously, I love the movies, there are a lot of celebrities who I enjoy seeing and hearing from. But something about actors and Hollywood and the entertainment industry patting itself so relentlessly on the back for their courage and bravery in making this art is so sickening to me. And Adrien Brody seems like he absolutely is the. Not just the drinker of, but the. But the maker of this Kool Aid.

[Andrew Walsh]

Now, we had kind of talked about some.

[Genevieve]

He's handing out the little cups of Xerox.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, thank you for your accuracy. Wait, is that what the Heaven's Gate people took?

[Genevieve]

No, it was the Jonestown.

[Andrew Walsh]

It wasn't.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, but they famously didn't. It wasn't Kool Aid. They were too cheap for Kool Aid.

[Genevieve]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Famously.

[Andrew Walsh]

So Luke and I were sort of talking about the speech and this Andy Richter tweet from this old SNL bit, and I was saying, like, boy, I can't think of any time a celebrity that I had. And I think I'm quoting myself here, like, just kind of neutral to, I guess, positive feelings about. I really like the Brutalist. Didn't really think about it much to just like, within a day of reaction after the Oscars, just being like, I really don't like this guy. And then, Luke, you put something in the show sheet the other day that we haven't gotten to yet, which is just like this May. I don't know why, but the visuals of this thing is like the cherry on top. It makes me hate him even more. The gum thing.

[Genevieve]

I knew that was gonna really have hit you wrong.

[Andrew Walsh]

He.

[Luke Burbank]

Apparently, as he. He realized he had Gum in his mouth. So he throws it to his wife, I believe, or his partner.

[Andrew Walsh]

Partner?

[Genevieve]

Yeah, his romantic partner.

[Andrew Walsh]

So he gets up out of his chair and it's kind of got that. Not handheld, but that sort of sweeping camera as the winner is kind of getting out of their seat and making their way to the face.

[Genevieve]

He's hugging and kissing everybody from the Brutalist.

[Andrew Walsh]

And he's chewing a piece of gum, apparently. And then he sort of, like, does this scene like, oh, I just realized I have gum in my mouth. And he takes it out in his. In his hand. And then like, looks around at the audience like, what should I do with this? He's like. And so. And then. And I don't know who this person is, and I don't want to malign her, but then I guess his partner, who's dressed beautifully in this big, long black gown, just obediently immediately jumps out of her seat with her two hands in front of her so that he can not even hand it to her, but toss it to her.

[Genevieve]

She caught it too, did she?

[Andrew Walsh]

It looked like she screamed.

[Luke Burbank]

I heard it was a bad throw. I think it was a bad throw. No, no, but she caught it.

[Andrew Walsh]

She did.

[Genevieve]

She has to reach back behind her. But it was a good catch. Here's my hot take on the gum. It's a crucial catch on the gum thing. Yeah, it's a crucial catch. Here's my hot take on the gum thing. I think if it was somebody else who had done the gum thing, we would have more tolerance and be like, oh, my gosh, Matt Damon. What a goofball. Like, you know, he forgot he had gum. And his. His loving partner. And the thing is, when you see her face, she's running to. When she realizes what. What he's about, that he's like, realize he has his gum in his mouth and he's about to accept an Oscar. She's really right there to like, hey. She says, throw it to me. Like, she gestures at him to throw it to her. And that. Honestly, I get why it's gross and I get why people. Why it puts people off. And I'm not telling anyone how to feel. For me personally, that is kind of the smallest of his sins, which is like, he forgot he was chewing gum. It's a very human moment. And his, like, that's exactly what I would do for you, Andrew, if you were in a similar situation. I would put my hand out because I don't care.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't think I would do that, though.

[Genevieve]

I know you wouldn't. Obviously you just. Let me just enter the podium.

[Andrew Walsh]

Luke would be like this.

[Luke Burbank]

Got gum there.

[Genevieve]

Cillian Murphy. Killian Murphy.

[Luke Burbank]

Cillian Murphy. There's some Jack Nicholson gum down there.

[Andrew Walsh]

What if it was Leonardo DiCaprio and he's like tossing it to an 18 year old? I would take into the.

[Luke Burbank]

I think you're totally right, though. Ves that, like, it's actually. It could be seen as a cute moment, except we've all decided that we're done with Adrien Brody.

[Andrew Walsh]

So now it takes a while.

[Genevieve]

It's insult to injury now.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Which is, again, what a wild thing for him to win an Oscar and then go from, like you said, Andrew somebody. I had. I didn't have any thoughts about Adrien Brody. I didn't know the Tina Fey thing until now. I was giving no thought to Adrien Brody. And now he's having a terrible week off of winning an Oscar.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, everyone's agreeing. This guy kind of sucks.

[Genevieve]

That's my favorite.

[Andrew Walsh]

Genevieve, your cackle right there is why. Is a big reason why I love you so much.

[Luke Burbank]

May I ask? Because you guys saw the Brutalist. I have not seen it yet. Turns out it wasn't playing in Longview, Washington for very long enough. People were streaming to the AMC to see the Brutalist out here. But is he really good in the movie?

[Andrew Walsh]

Is he really good in the movie? Listen, it's the type of movie. I really enjoyed it, but it's while we're kind of talking about somebody who's really kind of high on their own supply and also in this sort of like, tradition of important male actors. It's definitely one of those stories, and I'm sorry to be maybe a little bit of cliche here in the old One and a Half. One and a Half Men or whatever we used to call that segment. But, like, it is one of those stories of a tortured genius who is really awful at times to the people around him, especially the women that they love, who then put up with his awfulness because of his greatness and his genius. And so it's one of those. That doesn't really answer your question, but that sort of does sort of cloud the character. Yes.

[Genevieve]

Like, I'm happy to agree he is a good actor, but I.

[Luke Burbank]

Have you heard his Rasta guy?

[Andrew Walsh]

He does.

[Genevieve]

It was so convincing.

[Luke Burbank]

Eerily convincing.

[Genevieve]

I thought it was actually Sean John.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I thought it was Sean Paul. Yeah. Because, like. Well, I'm very interested in the idea of brutalist architecture.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, it's beautiful. It's beautiful.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, but I would say if you're interested in brutalist architecture, consume some other media because it's not really.

[Andrew Walsh]

You didn't like it.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that's what I've also kind of.

[Genevieve]

Heard about the architecture.

[Luke Burbank]

Right. I've heard that like there's real, like people that really know architecture. Like, no, this film is kind of a joke as far as it's, you know, its take on architecture. Like, it's not, it's not a particularly, I guess, true to life thing, but like, I do want to see the movie.

[Andrew Walsh]

But I would recommend it, by the way. I do for you. I would recommend it. I did like it, like, caveats aside, for whatever that's worth.

[Luke Burbank]

But I also just feel like I already kind of know what's going to be happening in the movie. It's kind of exactly what you described of like, he's gonna be in a, like wearing a wool suit, holding some papers and smoking a cigarette while he feels bad about something. And there's.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nailed it.

[Luke Burbank]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Walsh]

You can only use that during, after these messages.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, you know what I mean? I guess I feel like I kind of already have a sense of what this movie is gonna look like and feel like, which again is a. Is the kind of thing that I sort of go in for. But I'm surprised that it was considered such a breakthrough or that it's gotten as much attention as it has when I feel like I kind of know what the movie's gonna be like.

[Genevieve]

The Oscars will never get tired of this narrative ever, ever, ever.

[Andrew Walsh]

And it is one of those big self important movies. But I really did, having said all of that and acknowledged all of that, and I think I had been warned about some of that too, going in. And maybe that's what made me like it more. I think that's right. Cause Genevieve and I saw it with a friend, three of us went to see it together. We had dinner ahead of time. And you and our friend Libby had already like done a lot of reading, some reading about the movie. I was going in, you know, with less information and the whole, the whole dinner, you guys lowered expectations for me. I've heard this and I've heard this. I'm like, all right, whatever. So my expectations were maybe somewhat tempered going in. And it does, it does kind of hit a lot of those kind of beats that these stories do. But like, I don't know the way that they do portray certain events. Like, I don't want to spoil it for you, Luke, or anybody else, but there's there is like something that happens about halfway through the movie. And the way it happens almost off screen. Do you know what I'm talking about? And it's just like, oh, what an amazing way to do that. And also just to like sort of see this building that he's building. And in a couple of different cases, like, I don't know, like if you just sort of like release yourself and absorb yourself into the world and you just appreciate what you're seeing on the screen from a visual standpoint, like it was a. I do not regret those six and a half hours.

[Genevieve]

A well made example of the type. And everybody's good in it and everything is done well. And if it was the first time you'd ever seen this type of movie, you'd be blown away. But you know, I just, I think I'm just a little bit over I. Again, like I enjoyed it. I'm not, I'm not saying it wasn't a good movie. It was a good. It is a good movie. Everybody's performances are really good. There's some interesting explorations of masculinity. I mean obviously like there's the. The Holocaust is like sort of. Even though it's not taking place during the Holocaust, its shadow looms over the whole movie. Really relevant right now. So it's not that it's not a good movie. It's extremely well executed and Adrien Brody is a good actor. No one can take that away from him. But he seems like a real pain in the ass. And having him up on the Oscar dais accepting this award and these just. He's so overwhelmed by emotion. But then as soon as they start to play him off, he snaps into like, hey, I've been here before. I'll decide when I leave. Stop the music. Which he also said the first time he won, went for the pianist. He told him to stop playing off the music. He just seems like he thinks he's. And by like if I'm gonna listen to like a self important white actor, like be hottie. I'll just, just give me Daniel Day Lewis.

[Andrew Walsh]

I would just prefer.

[Genevieve]

That's the flavor I prefer.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

I have a theory as to how Adrien Brody got this way. I was reading something at some point that he. I believe he grew up in New York City and I believe his parents, maybe both of them or one of them was a photographer and they used Adrien Brody, I believe as like their muse. So like, just think about it. You're this kid, you're growing up in New York City. You're being photographed constantly by one or both of your parents, artfully. And then you get into acting, and then you, you know, like. Or you're probably a model at some point. You know, he's a very kind of distinct looking guy.

[Genevieve]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And then you get into acting, and then you're the youngest person to ever win an Oscar for best actor. I. 29. That doesn't seem that young. Or. Excuse me, doesn't seem like I'm surprised that that was the youngest. But anyway, you win an Oscar at 29, and so you. I mean, you. You just could really become insufferable from everything breaking your way.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, I agree. He's been. He's been super famous and, like, one of our most capital s. Serious capital A actors for decades now. Like, I'm sure his reality bears no relation to mine. And so. So we can all dunk on Adrien Brody with impunity because it hurts nobody. He's fine, and, like, he deserves it.

[Andrew Walsh]

One of my most likable qualities is I'm a failure at everything I've ever done. And people are like, I just love the youngest failures. They're like, yes, I love that for you. Can I go back to the SNL thing for a second or. Luke, am I cutting you off? Were you jumping in?

[Luke Burbank]

No, I was just gonna throw in. The other just weird slice to this whole story is the Harvey Weinstein factor.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I don't.

[Luke Burbank]

Because Adrien Brody's partner is Harvey Weinstein's ex and has children with Harvey Weinstein. So after Adrien Brody, because he shouted out these. These children that he's apparently close to because he's, you know, with their mother, and then they're, like, getting a quote from Harvey Weinstein in jail about how he feels about Adrian Brody shouting out his kids. Oh, it's like just a strange angle to the whole thing.

[Genevieve]

That is such a weird, like, coda.

[Andrew Walsh]

To the whole thing without putting you on the spot, Luke. Cause I don't know if you have it memorized, but now I'm curious. What was his reaction from prison? Like, what was the quote?

[Luke Burbank]

Strangely magnanimous.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, he was like, I really like that my kids have somebody in their life who is looking out for him. Like, it was. You know, I don't want to give Harvey Weinstein even the tiniest bit of credit on any level because he's pretty monstrous. But it was like a. It was a strangely. Like, he wasn't. You know, it was like he was like, I'm great with It. I'm happy for them, you know. But anyway, this is one more odd thing. What are you gonna say, Andrew?

[Andrew Walsh]

It wasn't no touching.

[Luke Burbank]

Someone stole on my karaoke.

[Andrew Walsh]

Different show.

[Luke Burbank]

Was it Tambor?

[Andrew Walsh]

It was Tambor, but it was Tambor in. What's the late night show with?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, oh, the Larry Sanders.

[Andrew Walsh]

Larry Sanders Show. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Larry David Sanders.

[Andrew Walsh]

Larry David Sanders. I want to go and I'm sorry, this is kind of a weird thing to do to go back to something that we've already kind of of put a bow on. But back to that SNL thing, because I played it on the show the other day, that introduction to Sean John. We did get this. Sean Paul.

[Luke Burbank]

Sean Paul.

[Andrew Walsh]

Jeez. Honestly, I was making the calculation in my head, but I over calculated. Okay, sorry, sorry. Sean Paul. I got this note from listener Andrew specifically about that introduction to Sean Paul. The story goes that in 2002, when Adrien Brody was in SNL, he pitched the idea and they tried it at the dress rehearsal. It obviously didn't go well, depending on who tells the story either. The SNL cut the idea and planned to have him introduce the music normally, and Brody grabbed the wig, et cetera, and did it anyway. The other version of the story is that SNL asked him to do it more quickly and that Lorne didn't think it was funny. Either way, this is what apparently did happen. Brody did the quote unquote character on the east coast broadcast and it went on even longer and more unhinged. And the version that you've been playing from Andy Richter's Blue sky is from the dress rehearsal, which they edited for the west coast broadcast. Some say he got banned from snl, but the only thing for sure is he hasn't been invited back. And so there's little tidbits in that story of things that I've heard either from you, Genevieve, about Tina Fey's enmity with him or this Luke. I think you mentioned the other day that you had heard a rumor that he wasn't allowed on snl or he after.

[Luke Burbank]

This was exactly what happened. You played that quote unquote Jamaican thing, which I had never heard before. And then when I googled it, the first headline that came up was, adrien Brody claims he is not banned from SNL over his Jamaican accent.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right?

[Genevieve]

He's like, I'm not banned. I'll just never be invited back.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, I want to start just releasing news about things I'm not banned from just to sort of get some smoke going. Andrew Walsh wants everybody to know he is not banned from snl.

[Luke Burbank]

So, I mean, that would make me so mad if I were one of the producers of snl and if I were. If I were Lorne Michaels or anybody, and we said, don't do that, and then he just commandeered the wig and just went out there.

[Andrew Walsh]

The only thing about that is he also has on this shirt that is, you know, very much part of the costume, and I even think pants as well. So.

[Luke Burbank]

So he got assistance from wardrobe.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know. I just feel like the grabbing the wig and doing it without anybody, unless he was, like, wearing that outfit for another sketch. But I kind of doubt that it strains belief, truly.

[Genevieve]

That part does that, like, in an environment as tightly controlled and as clockwork. And I know that, like, I know it's a live environment and things can happen that are unexpected in snl, but for a host who has, like, a person on them at all times, who is, like, there. Who is, like, handling them in the studio and in this environment, and they are like, you know, there are costume and wardrobe people, like, it's just. It does kind of strain belief that he fully went rogue and did his own costuming and did his own thing. But I believe the story that he went off script in some way.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm just realizing now the fault in my own stars. As I retold that story, I said, yeah, but how could he be in the full getup? According to Andrew's email, that's because I'm seeing something from dress rehearsal that was then cut and edit it in so there could be a version where he did just grab the wig with whatever else and did something unhinged. So, sorry, I kind of missed the point there as I was trying to recap it.

[Luke Burbank]

I wonder if this is. Here's one other thing. I didn't realize that there was this part of Adrien Brody's story of him, like, being not down on his luck, but, like, I just wasn't following his career enough to know that. Like, were you following any of this Veebs? That basically, the idea that, like, after he won for the Pianist, he was in the wilderness. Like, he. His career was really, like, suffering for a while, and that was part of why he was so proud of himself that he got back on top to win another Oscar.

[Genevieve]

I guess I wasn't really aware of that. I mean, it feels like he's been a famous. If you'd call him an A lister. Exactly. But, like, a serious.

[Luke Burbank]

This is the debate.

[Genevieve]

Oh, gosh, I don't want to get into what it is.

[Luke Burbank]

Is Dennis Quaid an A lister?

[Andrew Walsh]

You know what? I am happy to concede that I will no longer be defending Dennis Quaid's status on any red car carpets, black carpets, or anything Hollywood related.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you know about the black carpet, Genevieve?

[Andrew Walsh]

No.

[Genevieve]

What's the black carpet?

[Luke Burbank]

I was doing. I'm still actually doing this story about the band Metallica.

[Genevieve]

Oh, yes. I. I heard some elements of this story.

[Luke Burbank]

Did I tell you that night after we were all. Or when we were all together? Maybe I was mentioning it.

[Genevieve]

I don't remember if you told me in person or if Andrew. Or if I. I gleaned it from the podcast, but, yeah, I know it. I know that stormed off perpetually.

[Luke Burbank]

It was a real. It was a real low point for me.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do you want me to stop bringing that up? I'm not trying to.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, no, no. I need to be reminded.

[Andrew Walsh]

I can't think of the red carpet anymore.

[Luke Burbank]

I need to be reminded over and over again of what a baby I was being. So I don't do it again. I'm sorry, Veebs. You were saying something. I interrupted you.

[Genevieve]

Oh, just that I didn't. Yeah, like, I like you. I wasn't really aware of him being on the outs or not getting work or whatever for. You know. But like I said, I. I went to see the Brutals. It's not like he's someone that I have such antipathy for that I won't go see his projects. I just think he's not a fun person to be around now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can I ask you one question?

[Genevieve]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know if it's video games or what, but it's so unfair until it stops.

[Andrew Walsh]

Will you please stop? More of a comment than a question, I guess.

[Genevieve]

I don't know if it's video games or what.

[Luke Burbank]

That is. That commercial has changed my life this week. I really cannot stop thinking about it. I told Andrew I watched it, like, a hundred times this morning.

[Andrew Walsh]

Luke spent the morning just, like, downing Fresca.

[Luke Burbank]

Watching that on Shotgunning Fresca and watching.

[Andrew Walsh]

Scott Hoy do his thing.

[Genevieve]

It's amazing.

[Luke Burbank]

It's really, really incredible. Anyway, Vi, thank you for talking Brody with us.

[Genevieve]

Yeah, thanks for having me on.

[Andrew Walsh]

You should just do this every day.

[Luke Burbank]

I know. Honestly, can't we build it into your schedule? So much more fun when you're here. There's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll.

[Andrew Walsh]

You can't just listen to your soul.

[Luke Burbank]

Just remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, Luke, the Andrew Walsh Apology Tour continues. I believe I've been apologizing to a lot of listeners over a lot of things lately, especially that squirt joke I made earlier.

[Luke Burbank]

MC Squirt.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. I was trying not to re traumatize. But I have a big apology to make to listener Kendall because I somehow missed this message last week and it was a blurs day that fell on the actual blurs day last week, which really made it feel even worse. Kendall, my apologies. Kendall's in Bellingham. Kendall says today is my actual 45th Blurs Day. Last time I wrote in with a blurs a greeting, it was in 2020, which was the last time my birthday was on a Thursday. And even though 2025 pretty much feels like the 2020 stacked in a trench coat. Wait, I actually it's a good joke and I kind of mess up another apology from me. And even though 2025 feels pretty much like five 2000s stacked in a trip trench coat. Not my joke. Stolen from a meme. I don't know who to credit. I am so grateful to have TBTL as a touchstone amidst the swirling chaos and uncertainty. Happy blursday, Kendall. I hope it was a great one and next time try to get that in on time. Yeah, Katie says, I would like to wish a very happy birthday to my fellow Scotland appreciator. Birthday week Buddy soccer fan in general, just really good all around person. Max in Seattle.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh yeah, I met Max.

[Andrew Walsh]

Max in Seattle. I met Max in Seattle at the bracelet making party. Luke. We hung out.

[Luke Burbank]

We have a lot of Maxes.

[Andrew Walsh]

We do. We have a Max in New York. We have a Max in Seattle. Max in Seattle sometimes calls himself Other Max, but I feel like I don't know if I. I don't know if I. If I can sign up for that. There are no other Maxes. They're all our Maxes.

[Luke Burbank]

You have your own Max.

[Andrew Walsh]

Max had a really sweet Cleveland Guardians hat on when I met him. This is the only time outside of the Premier League decision day that I'll say this says Katie, quote up the Gunners go Arsenal fc. At least we can always meet in the middle and share the Sounders fandom. Happy birthday, Max. That's from Katie. And I have a feeling Katie might have triggered Max a little bit with that Premier League stuff.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, I've been kind of toying with the idea of getting into Premier League, of caring about Premier League because one being over there, however briefly, kind of seeing everybody kitted out in their, in their Tottenham outfits and Liverpool and things, it just obviously it's a cool, fun energy. And also living in Seattle, since we don't have a basketball team, an NBA team that is. There is, you know, there is a pretty big dead spot in the year, like if the Seahawks aren't. Don't make the playoffs, there's a, there's a, you know, there's a sustained period of time where I don't know what, I don't know what sports to look at with my little eyeballs.

[Andrew Walsh]

And you'd rather look at the kind of European stuff than the Sounders y.

[Luke Burbank]

Stuff stuff or, you know, I'm, I'm, I've been to Sounders matches and, and had a really fun time and, and, you know, I'm, I'm really happy for them for whatever reason. Mls I just don't, I don't know, it just doesn't really captivate me. I don't know why. It's very competitive and very popular, obviously. But I, I also kind of like the idea of being one of those weirdos who's like, watching, you know, Arsenal at three in the morning.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, that's what it's on or whatever.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It must feel like when you're watching it out of the time zone, you're over here. It must feel part of like a little club. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

I might get into that.

[Andrew Walsh]

You don't want to rush the bass, Kelly. Oh, go ahead. Sorry.

[Luke Burbank]

They're just. Things are getting crazier and crazier over there at the. On Cinema House. Speaking of Heidecker.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Did you watch any of their Oscars coverage?

[Luke Burbank]

I've just been seeing clips of like, Tim Heidecker just screaming at Greg Turkington.

[Andrew Walsh]

The problem is, like, I'm so far behind on what the narrative is and that the whole universe goes through these phases that I keep saying I'm not going to watch the new stuff until I've caught up on the old stuff. But then I kind of keep forgetting to catch up on the old stuff. I have years of their relationship. I have years to catch up on as their relationship goes from toxic to more toxic.

[Luke Burbank]

And he's always got. Heidecker's character has always got these, like, weird, like, really handsome singer guys or like a, you know, some. He's got a business partner and it's like, it's so convoluted, but so funny to me.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah. Kelly in Belltown says rave. Oh, I love this. Okay, this is for Mary. This is for our friend Mary.

[Luke Burbank]

Our buddy Mary.

[Andrew Walsh]

The Mary who's really published. Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Ranter and raver.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. Mary often writes into the Seattle Times rant and rave column. This is such a sweet message. I was literally lolling as I put this into the document last night. Kelly and I read it to Genevieve. Kelly in Belltown says, rave to my mom Mary, for having a Friday birthday this year. Rave for one of the most consistent things in my life for 18 years, being something I have in common with my mom, a daily podcart that we love together. And rave to her for finally converting dad from an 11 to a 10. Whoa. See, Mom? They don't all have to be rand. They. Happy birthday. We love you.

[Luke Burbank]

Happy blursday, Mary. That's awesome.

[Andrew Walsh]

Absolutely. I love having Kelly and Mary in the TBTL fam. It's been fun getting to know you guys.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey, our pal Kristen Eastlake says, happiest of birthdays to Erin. She's a great friend who's full of laughter and care. Erin, I'm so grateful to know you and hope you feel extra happy of yourself today. Happy blursday, Erin. Aaron is a very generous supporter of tbtl. Thank you, Aaron. Thank you. Sally in North Bend, Washington says, Happy 62nd birthday to my favorite hymn, Charlie.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I really thought that was gonna be like H y m n. Oh, my favorite hymn, Amazing Grace. A moosing grace.

[Andrew Walsh]

I gotta use that tomorrow. Let's see here. This is for Charlie from Sally. And Sally says, I really didn't plan on dying twice last year, but thanks to you, I did not pre read this one. Luke.

[Luke Burbank]

Whoa, whoa.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sally says, I really didn't plan on dying twice last year, but thanks to you EMTs, doctors, nurses, et cetera, et cetera, I am here to talk about it. I would not have survived without you. Here's to a much better year. I love you. So that is happy blursing to Charlie, sent from Sally, who I am so grateful to hear from Sally. I hope you're doing okay, man. That sounds.

[Luke Burbank]

And what did you see?

[Andrew Walsh]

What did you see? What did you see?

[Luke Burbank]

Share it with us was my weird.

[Andrew Walsh]

Bearded face at the end of the light. Oh, no. I don't want to. You know what I feel, but I don't want to. I don't want to make light of that. Sally, I hope you're doing all right, man.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And of course, happy birthday to Charlie. And Dave says, I got a blursday message from my actual brother, Denny, and it says M.D. i don't know if that means doctor or in Maryland. And also one of the.

[Luke Burbank]

Could be a doctor in Maryland.

[Andrew Walsh]

One of the flying goulets of Edmonds, as you and Luke coined us a few weeks ago. He just entered his 40s. Perhaps you two wise men with much experience in the practice of being in one's 40s have some sage thoughts. If not, perhaps just a simple jalapena or Walsh helm scream can help me wish him a happy 40th Blurs Day. Happy birthday, Denny. Is that. That's an AI of me saying hello.

[Luke Burbank]

It's listed as AI Andrew Jalapeno Yalapeno.

[Andrew Walsh]

It sounds good. Good. It's better than what I'm doing.

[Luke Burbank]

Here's my advice on being in your 40s, which is, you know, not anything particularly original, but now that I'm 48, I think of being 40 and 41 as so young. And of course, when you're turning 40 and 41 and whatever you feel like, wow, I'm, you know, I'm moving into a different age bracket here. You can feel a little old or like you're getting, you know, you're getting old and then you give it eight years and you're like, man to be 40 again. Again.

[Andrew Walsh]

And that's just the way it is throughout life, I think once you get past the. I mean, I think there's a certain age where you know you're. When you're younger, you always can't wait to be older until you get to a certain point. Of course. That's why it was sort of surprised me before when you said, and I don't have any context for this, but you. As far as who else have won Academy Awards for best actor? But like when you said 29 doesn't seem that young to win an Academy Award. And I was like, do they even have their advice adult teeth at 29? It sounds so young to me now.

[Luke Burbank]

Right.

[Andrew Walsh]

But anyway, you're gonna. You're Gonna Love your 40s, Denny. Happy birthday. Let's be careful on those trapeze.

[Luke Burbank]

The flying goulets.

[Andrew Walsh]

The flying goulets. And finally, Chad in Minnesota says, Happy 55th Blursday to my beautiful, smart, talented, and often Gen X snarky wife, Amy. Of course, Amy, famous for her pan Dr. Not pan drumming, but the pan drummic drummer. We're so far behind on our boys listening that it will be nearly the end of March by the time you hear this. But that just helps make your celebration a blurs month. A blurs month.

[Luke Burbank]

There you Go.

[Andrew Walsh]

Not just a mere day. And you totally deserve it. Happy blurs day, Amy.

[Luke Burbank]

Happy blurs, Amy.

[Andrew Walsh]

And that's where we end things.

[Luke Burbank]

Sweet. I'm in need of my third Fresca.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right.

[Luke Burbank]

Of the morning.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do you know we used to have a priest in church who. I really like this guy, Father Dunphy. He was kind of the priest that I was often the altar boy for. He came in as kind of this young priest who was really going to kind of, I don't know. I don't know, shake things up as too strong of a word. We had a very stodgy old priest before him. And then he came in, and I remember he let his golden retriever. It was the first dog I ever liked. He let his golden retriever come into the church, not during mass, but as we were getting ready for some sort of celebration. I couldn't believe I was seeing a dog in the church, you know? And I really, really loved Father Dunphy. He's. He's passed away. Not to. Not too long ago, but anyway, he used to. As he would walk down the aisle, the mass is over, right? And then the final thing is he would walk down the aisle, out the back exit, right? And the. I think altar boy's flanking him or something. And then he would kind of stand in the kind of doorway or maybe outside on the steps leading into church so he could shake everybody's hands as they leave church. Very classic. But the thing I remembered, and the reason I'm bringing this up now, is as I'm singing doo, doo, doo doo to Tim Heidecker's bass line, I always found it so charming that as he was, like, leaving church, he would just do that to whatever the organist was playing. And it wasn't great. Like, he didn't know the song. He was just, like, loudly, just like, do to do, to do, to do.

[Luke Burbank]

Really.

[Andrew Walsh]

He would just keep things light. I love that man. He is a good guy. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Father Dunphy, rest in peace. All right, that is going to do it for today's episode, but I have some really incredible news. We've got another one coming your way tomorrow. That's right. We'll be back.

[Andrew Walsh]

More Father Dunphy stories. Don't worry.

[Luke Burbank]

It'll be all Father. It'll be ranking the times Father Dunphy burped. What was the best Father Dunphy burped?

[Andrew Walsh]

I do feel like the. The Father Dunphy Chronicles or something. Could be a CBS show or a.

[Luke Burbank]

Show that I only get two episodes of on Britbox.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

My Dad's trying to make us watch, so.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

All right. We will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Take care of yourselves, folks. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Andrew Walsh]

And good luck to all.

[Genevieve]

Power out.