#4440 HOV Actually

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL #4440 "HOV Actually"

Release Date: April 8, 2025
Hosts: Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh

---

1. Episode Introduction

Luke Burbank welcomes listeners to episode #4440 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live from the Madrona Hill studio. The episode promises engaging discussions on various topics, including a quirky Rants and Raves column, a peculiar incident involving an American YouTuber, and personal updates from the hosts.

---

2. Rants and Raves Column: Gym Etiquette and Communication Issues

Luke (01:07): Introduces the day's focus on the Rants and Raves column from the Seattle Times, highlighting a submission that initially appeared as a rave but unfolded into a rant about gym etiquette.

Andrew (07:52): Explains the confusion arising from the column where the author starts with praise for gym-goers ("rave") but transitions into criticism ("rant") about individuals using phones at the gym, causing delays and frustration for others.

Notable Quote:

• Andrew (07:38): “If you're going to do it, it has to say rave to all those who get dressed and head for the gym for a healthier life. But rant to those who are holding up the lines by reading your messages...”

The hosts dissect the editorial mishap, pondering whether the issue stemmed from the columnist's writing or the editors' handling of the piece. They emphasize the importance of clear communication in feedback columns.

---

3. HOV Lanes and Express Toll Lanes Confusion

Luke shares his recent experience driving solo in the HOV (High-Occupancy Vehicle) lanes on I-405, believing he could pay for faster commuting despite not meeting the carpool requirements. This leads to a deep dive into the complexities and misunderstandings surrounding express toll lanes.

Luke (17:33): Describes the ordeal of navigating the HOV lanes and the unexpected toll charges incurred.

Andrew (23:24): Questions the enforcement mechanisms, wondering how the system distinguishes between solo drivers and actual carpools.

Notable Quote:

• Luke (21:49): “I do not ever use the HOV lanes intentionally if there's less than the number of people that should be in the car...”

The conversation highlights the frustrations and confusions drivers face with modern toll systems, reflecting on societal adherence to traffic rules.

---

4. Personal Anecdotes: Hiccups and Startling Cures

Andrew recounts a humorous incident where his partner, Genevieve, wearing a horse mask, startled him to cure his hiccups. This segues into a light-hearted discussion about enduring friendships and surprising behaviors.

Andrew (33:35): Shares the moment Genevieve successfully cured his hiccups by scaring him, illustrating the playful dynamics in their friendship.

Luke (34:07): Reflects on the long-standing friendship, noting how such surprises keep their bond vibrant.

---

5. Family Updates: Danny and Diana's New Twins

The hosts congratulate their friend Danny Crawford and his wife Diana on the arrival of their twins, Ash and Cameron. They express joy and share anecdotes about Danny's life, including his role in the television show FBI.

Luke (39:23): Announces Diana's pregnancy and the twins' birth, appreciating the NICU nurses' care.

Andrew (42:54): Adds excitement about Danny's growing family and reminisces about past encounters.

Notable Quote:

• Andrew (40:17): “It's like Diana being a chicken donating an egg to a breakfast is different than a pig donating bacon.”

The segment underscores the importance of family and the support friends provide during significant life events.

---

6. Acting Gig: Luke's Role in "Black Rabbit"

Luke shares his experience working as Jude Law's stand-in for the Netflix show Black Rabbit. He expresses enthusiasm about the project and anticipates its premiere.

Luke (42:54): Reveals his role as a stand-in for Jude Law, praising the show and recommending listeners to watch it upon release.

Andrew (43:30): Playfully inquires about Luke's ranking among Danny's famous friends, adding humor to the announcement.

---

7. Bike Helmet PSA: Importance and Listener Story

A listener from New York City, Chris Hayes, sends a heartfelt message emphasizing the critical need for wearing helmets while riding bikes or scooters. He shares a personal story where his son avoided serious injury thanks to his helmet during a fall.

Chris (64:13): "Taking him to school one morning, hit a patch of black ice during the winter and absolutely wiped out. And I saw him in front of me and I saw his helmeted head bounce off the curb. And he was totally fine because he was wearing a helmet."

Luke (65:31): Acknowledges the powerful message and recounts his own shift in perspective regarding helmet usage, inspired by medical professionals' insights.

Notable Quote:

• Andrew (70:43): “That's like an actually really good PSA.”

The hosts reinforce the importance of safety gear, aligning with listener experiences to advocate for responsible riding practices.

---

8. Upcoming Projects and Medical Updates: Andrew's Colonoscopy

Andrew discusses his upcoming colonoscopy appointment, sharing his apprehensions and the challenges of completing medical documentation online. This leads to a brief exploration of balancing personal health with professional responsibilities.

Andrew (61:00): Describes the convoluted process of scheduling his colonoscopy and the technical hiccups encountered.

Luke (63:53): Expresses support, highlighting the importance of addressing health issues proactively.

---

9. Closing Remarks

As the episode wraps up, Luke humorously contemplates the challenges of returning to the studio amidst windy conditions and teases future discussions on intriguing stories, including an American YouTuber's peculiar adventure involving an isolated island.

Luke (73:21): “Stay dry, and please remember, no mountain too tall.”

Andrew (73:29): “Good luck to all.”

The hosts bid farewell, promising continuity and more engaging content in upcoming episodes.

---

Key Takeaways:

• Effective Communication: The importance of clarity in feedback columns to prevent misinterpretations.
• Understanding Traffic Systems: Navigating modern toll and HOV lanes requires better public awareness.
• Safety First: Wearing helmets is crucial for preventing serious injuries during biking or scootering.
• Personal Growth: Hosts reflect on their evolving perspectives and experiences, fostering a relatable connection with listeners.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew (07:38): “If you're going to do it, it has to say rave to all those who get dressed and head for the gym for a healthier life. But rant to those who are holding up the lines by reading your messages...”
• Luke (21:49): “I do not ever use the HOV lanes intentionally if there's less than the number of people that should be in the car...”
• Andrew (70:43): “That's like an actually really good PSA.”

---

For more engaging discussions and latest episodes, subscribe to TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Here he comes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Here comes John Wayne.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm not gonna cry about my pa.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm gonna build an airport, put my name on it.

[Luke Burbank]

Why, Michael? So you can fly away from your feelings? You can keep them bottled up, but.

[Andrew Walsh]

They will come out, Michael. Sometimes in the most unexpected.

[Luke Burbank]

Hey, where the. Of my hard boiled day.

[Andrew Walsh]

TBTL.

[Luke Burbank]

I know I come on strong, all right?

[Andrew Walsh]

I radiate power.

[Luke Burbank]

I can't help that.

[Andrew Walsh]

The employees at Trader Joe's, heaven sent. They are saints. They were made in a lab. The manners. And when they say, how are you? I act. I'm like, I'm not well. And they're like, we've biscottis trees.

[Luke Burbank]

They're all around us. But who gives a 56 pounds of beef that corresponds to, I don't know what five or six year old kid?

[Andrew Walsh]

What podcast are you talking about? The tbl. Tbtl.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome everyone to a Tuesday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. It's called the Danger Witch, and it's dangerously good. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. I'll do it until it stops. Will you please stop? Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it is rainy and primarily the issue is windy. The wind is whipping up here. We're just blowing through nap time, aren't we? I mean, I've got outdoor. Not even like much lawn furniture out there, but it's like whatever is out there has been distributed in my neighbor Bob's yard. It's a whole situation up here. You know what? I'm going to ignore all of that, what's happening outside, and I'm going to focus on what's happening inside the Madrona Hill studio. And that, of course, is episode 4440 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. TBTL the collectible podcast series. Trade with your friends. The Rants and Raves column. Column, I don't know. The Rants and Raves forum is out in the Seattle Times, as it often is. I've got something to say, and I was reading it this morning and I was struck by the fact that I may have been unintentionally involved in something that had somebody ranting in the pages of the Seattle Times. We'll talk. Talk about that. Also, an American YouTuber. It's very rare that you start a sentence with an American YouTuber and then the rest of the sentence is cures cancer. An American YouTuber is in trouble. Is Actually in jail right now for sailing out to a very, very isolated island far away from the nation of India and trying to make contact with a local tribe by leaving a can of soda on the beach. Gotta have that root beer. So we'll talk about that. Oh, and we're going to talk to this guy, the longest running cobra of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ship. Isn't he the best? I hired him about a million years ago. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Andrew Walsh]

Good morning, Luke. I read the Ransom Raves today too. It's one of my favorite.

[Luke Burbank]

I do think it's Jump right In, man.

[Andrew Walsh]

I do think it's a column. I like that term column.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, but does a column need to be written by somebody as opposed to.

[Andrew Walsh]

Just compiled or assembled from listeners? You know, I'm not sure. I guess you wouldn't call the letters to the editor a column that's just its own section of a newspaper. But when you're, I mean, you call it a feature, I suppose, you know, I don't know if we have any ink stained wretches out there.

[Luke Burbank]

Whoa, forgot about that those days.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, exactly. I love the idea.

[Luke Burbank]

I believe that is the term the current president is using for anybody who writes anything in the media he doesn't enjoy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Although I mean it as a compliment. I love the.

[Luke Burbank]

Where did that come from? Who coined that back in the day?

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

But anyway, H.L.

[Andrew Walsh]

Mencken kind of thing, we can call it a feature. Here's the deal though. Today's Rants and Raves column, I just call it that and I will continue to probably out of habit, contains, you know, it's not a, it's not the most paltry I've ever seen of a Rance in Raves column because there are three individual submissions. Sometimes it's just one, but you know, it's not super beefy. We have a rave, a rant and then supposedly a rave. Yes. I don't know if the one zeroed.

[Luke Burbank]

In on the exact issue is the one that.

[Andrew Walsh]

But one of them you also think might be directed towards you or people like you. I'm dying to know if it's the same one that I just find literally incomprehensible. And I need to be careful here because some of our listeners, some of our favorite listeners are frequent, are famous for sending in rants and raves and this might be their work. And I don't want to throw anybody. Mary, under the bus. But something happened.

[Luke Burbank]

You don't throw any Mary under the bus.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, but something happened to one of these. I don't know if it happened in.

[Luke Burbank]

The editing room or throw Mary bus under. I'm gonna keep trying to make a version of that joke until I F. Murray Abraham. F. Murray Kill was the greatest joke of my entire life on this program.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. I forgot about that.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm gonna keep trying to return to that. Okay, quickly, the. So, yeah, you're right. It goes rave, rant, rave. The confusing thing is the final thing that's described as a rave is not a rave. It's some real Scott Hoy territory. Please, Attorney Scott Hoy, please stop it. Kind of. I don't know if it's video games or what. The fact that somebody would say that. The back seat. I have it right here. I believe it's so unfair to, after something like this, blame people in the back seat. Or it's so unfair to, after something like this, call this a rave, because here's the rave. Okay? A rave means something. You want to celebrate? You're excited about this. You're raving.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Rave to all those who get dressed and head for the gym for a healthier life. Okay. I guess. I mean, to be honest with you, it's a bit of an odd rave because I feel like. Well, again, I don't want to. I don't want to snowflake out too hard, but I just feel like raving people that go to the jib is also raving people that have the. The bodily autonomy to do it and the. The mental health to do it. And a bunch of things. Like, it feels weird to me to be raving people that go to the gym because, like, I could say good for you. But I also don't think everyone who's not going to the gym does not. They don't deserve a rant.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, that doesn't bother me too much. But what we're seeing here is somebody. And again, spoiler on this two sentence rave slash rant is what we're seeing here is somebody who is like somebody who has gone to management school and has been told, well, when you need to give feedback to somebody, you make it a compliment sandwich or something along the line. I didn't. I'll be honest with you, I didn't go to management school, so I might have gotten some small.

[Luke Burbank]

I went to Sandwich University and I studied with them. It's called the Danger, which is dangerously good.

[Andrew Walsh]

All of my. All of my managerial advice will come in the form of sandwiches. So if you think about your employees like a Thunderbird red hot sandwich that you can get at Tubs, right? Okay, you want it, but you don't. You want to. I can't go anywhere with that. Listen, here's the deal. I don't have a problem with somebody saying, hey, just rave to all that. Like, for example, if this said rave, everybody I see early in the morning walking and jogging or even slowly going around Green Lake. It's just nice that everybody is kind of out there getting a healthier life. I don't think that is necessarily. That's not off putting to me in any way.

[Luke Burbank]

I figured out though, what's. What happened here and how this whole thing got so off the rails. And I'm not talking about TBTL right now, talking about this column. And you've clarified this for me. This is exactly what happened. What this person was trying to say is, hey, good for you if you're getting out to the gym.

[Andrew Walsh]

But, but, but. There's no but in here. This is edited or something.

[Luke Burbank]

And what happened was the person who organizes these, who heretofore referred to as columnist, just read the all those who get dressed and head for the gym for a healthier life. And they were like, well, this goes in the rave department. But they did not read the rest of the message because this person is ultimately annoyed. They're basically saying, good for you if you go to the gym for a healthier life. But. Except they omit the but. You are sharing with paying members who shouldn't have to wait to exercise because you have messages to read or find the need to talk or text without working out. It's rude and frustrating to those waiting. Okay, so the rant is. This should not be characterized as a rave. It is a rant about people who are on their phones at the gym but are using the equipment and therefore creating a line because they are not moving expeditiously through the process.

[Andrew Walsh]

It is so bananas because by specifically saying getting dressed, I reread this thing probably seven times, possibly on the toilet. I was like, wait, are people getting dressed on the machines? Like, what is about the getting. Like, are people clogging up the locker room? I was so focused on the getting dressed. And then I was like, oh, no, no, this isn't. Again, I'm really hoping here this isn't one of our. One of our celebrity ranters.

[Luke Burbank]

But if, if so they need to hear this and they need to hear it from us.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly. With much love. They need to hear it on the podcast streets. It's just that first sentence is just to soften the blow of the rave that is to come. And if you're going to do that, if you're going to do it, it has to say rave to all those who get dressed and head for the gym for a healthier life. But rant to those who are holding up the lines by reading your messages or finding the need to talk or text without working out. You are sharing with paying members. This is rude and frustrating. Like at least there's a turn there. I rearranged the sentences there. I don't even think you know My one regret in this segment that I'm doing with you Luke, right now is number one that I'm not fully awake and number two that we didn't really lean into how bad this is as it is on the page. You and I have already done so much to improve the reputation of this.

[Luke Burbank]

Rant and rave the ramp rant putation. I don't know. I'm trying to match your energy bro. Well, exactly. And what it raised. I'm so petty and I'm so petty on your behalf and the whole topic of this column, Andrew, because when I read a mess like this I think this got in. But great garbage related rant plus rave plus useful information did not make these ink stained digital pages. So in other words they must really be I feel like they're scraping the bottom of the barrel with these if they if they included this poorly written one. Also are they allowed to rewrite these as they say in like the New York Times edited for time and clarity. Can they edit these for clarity? Could they add a but in there? If they know what the if they can divine what the person's likely intention is.

[Andrew Walsh]

Here's the deal and I could be totally wrong about that. My assumption is that the blame most likely lies or possibly lays with the editorial stuff.

[Luke Burbank]

It's supposed to place something in sedantic let's go all the way.

[Andrew Walsh]

That is true. I guess it's the wrong time for me to be like just sort of like messing around with that. Like playing with playing with fireworks around a campfire. But yeah, I always get that one wrong. I can never tell if it's lay or lie. But anyway, what if this isn't the writer's fault and this isn't just because I'm really scared of Mary? What if it's no, not a cut and paste job but a hack job? What if the one that came in originally was clearer but much longer as somebody I mean, I consider myself sort of an amateur rant and rave editor myself because I of course am the author, let's say columnist behind the ever popular or the growingly popular segment TBTL's yeas and nays in the newsletter. By the way, got some more yeas and nays in the inbox that we'll be sharing pretty soon in an upcoming newsletter. Email me andrewbtl.net with your yeas and nays. Seattle Times really got the idea from us. But also, as somebody who sometimes often has to edit down blurs day messages, a good blurs day message is exactly the length of one of the these rants and raves. And you know, I just sort of have a sort of a timer in my head on these things. And so there is a chance that somebody sent in a decent rant slash rave here about the gym, but it was much too long and the person who was trying to cut it for time sort of didn't really care about their job. That could be what happened here.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, again, that would be so disappointing because first of all, we love the Ransom Raves column. And I bet you my guess would be it is actually one of the more red items, if you will, one of the more red columns in the paper just because it's relatable and we like to see what people are complaining about and what they're excited about. So I would hope that in this fractured media environment where democracy is dying in darkness left and right, I would hope that the Seattle Times would put some of their best people on the case of rants and raves. You know, not, not leaving it to someone who's just being sort of cavalier with this because I think this is an important column in the paper. It could be.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, I really threw that out there as an assumption. I mean, what do you think about my assumption? Do you think that it's off? Do you think maybe, maybe they, maybe a reader just sent this in and they just, you know, copied and pasted it directly as it was. Do you think that the fault it.

[Luke Burbank]

Starts with, with, with raving for the people that are getting up and going to the gym, it detours into eugenics and then it comes back, it returns to the waiting in line at the elliptical and decided to leave out the eugenics.

[Andrew Walsh]

You should have seen the original headline. One of the things if we're giving.

[Luke Burbank]

Put, maybe it veers into new genics, the Frank Thomas Male Enhancement. By the way, I just realized this naming that thing new Genics really relies on us forgetting about the term You.

[Andrew Walsh]

I've always been confused about that. I've never thought about that product without wondering about its connection to Eugenics. It's always seemed like a bad idea.

[Luke Burbank]

You've kept that very, very dark, dark period of human history closer to the front of your brain than I have. Because it never even. Until I was literally just saying that, I didn't realize how close those words are together. And what a bad name that is for a thing that Doug Flutie and Frank Thomas are taking to to keep their ladies happy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Which is Frank Thomas's nickname, the Big Hurt. Yeah. What my favorite thing is because I started to see those new Genics commercials before I watched any baseball. Or no, maybe it was when I first started watching baseball, you know, back when I first moved to Seattle, and so I had no context for anything. I still don't know that I would recognize Frank Thomas if I saw him. He'd probably be the tallest man in the room, I'm guessing. But I remember just seeing these commercials, these low budget commercials of women in a grocery store stopping and being like, isn't that the big Hurt? I'm like, why do these women know who this guy is? And I have no idea. And then they go up to him and make awkward conversation with him. But isn't that noted?

[Luke Burbank]

New Genesis, the Big Hurt.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right. Isn't he problematic?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. He mad about the line at the gym for the equipment.

[Andrew Walsh]

But wait, hold on though. We're pretty far afield. So I went to Pedantic Town with this. And I did want to say I do love the headline. That's my favorite thing of the Rants and Rave sometimes is the. Just the headline they gave it.

[Luke Burbank]

That's what drew me in. Because it is maybe the most.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

It's almost like it's out of the onion.

[Andrew Walsh]

Rant and Rave. Colon. Reader enjoyed jazz concert. And then the first rave is a rave of a spectacular gathering.

[Luke Burbank]

Literally made me click on it because I was like, trees, they're all around.

[Andrew Walsh]

Us, but it gives a bleep right now. But you set this up. Now, I took it into, like, the writing aspect.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, you took it to the place that a person who once taught writing at Kent State University would take it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, a peer writing assistant. But what are you seeing? How are you seeing yourself in this?

[Luke Burbank]

It's not the rave, which was Reader and Joyce Jazz Concert, which somebody loved. The Hot Java Cool jazz show at the Paramount. Nice shout out to any folks who were performing there. It's the middle one. It's the rant and it is a rant to commuter lanes. Why? Now, I could dissect this as well, but I'm just going to read it first. Rant to commuter lanes. Why do we bother to paint lines, hang signs and pretend we have HOV lanes? Question mark. Driving from Renton to Factoria, I saw one car in the HOV lane with two people in it. Dozens of cars passed me with only the driver. Now, when I was driving back from Whidbey island the other day back down here to Southern Washington, the mapping software took me along 405. So I was coming down south on I5 and then where I5 and 405 split off there at Alderwood in the video only district.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh yes, Alderwood Mall. Yes, yes.

[Luke Burbank]

And so I Silver Platters. Shout out the Silver Platters district at the corner of Silver Platters and Tony Romano's Macaroni Grill. So I, it told me that I405 would be the faster way to get down, you know, back to the greater Portland area. And as I was driving on that, traffic was very packed. I mentioned this the other day on the show that this is when I learned that I am no longer capable of living in a 9 to 5 rush hour type of world.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like I.

[Luke Burbank]

There have been periods of my life where I did do that. I don't remember it being the worst, but I have. I've been so spoiled now by my kind of odd schedule and the fact that I'm not part of that and that fact that I live in the middle of nowhere where there's rarely traffic. Sitting in traffic on I405 was brutal. Like I felt like I was going to. I need to crawl out of my own skin. There was something. There wasn't enough local sports radio in Seattle to be a balm for the anger I was feeling.

[Andrew Walsh]

That was just stop and go, stop.

[Luke Burbank]

And go, stop and sometimes go. Just sit, just locked, locked in traffic on 405. But before that. So that was from, let's just say maybe the Bellevue area down south all the way to like the vmac, if not further. This is very specific four or five reference for those who know. But anyway, when I first got on to I405 heading south, I realized they had those, I think they're called what, like hot lanes?

[Andrew Walsh]

Is that where they're like really like high priced HOV lanes that you pay extra for?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, but I was under the impression that you could drive in these hot lanes. You could, you could be in one of three categories. One, you are transit. You're a bus to. You're a carpool. You're a group of folks with, I guess, maybe two plus people in the vehicle. It kind of goes between two and three in different places, but let's just go two plus. And then I thought the third was people like me who are willing to pay any price to not be in traffic, and they just take a picture of your license plate, and then you get a bill from Good to Go. That was what I thought was happening up there, and I think still might be happening. I'm not sure. But what I know is I was breezing along in that lane and for miles and miles and miles and feeling great and being like, I don't whatever this cost. Then I looked at my Good to go, my like account when I got home. I was just curious. I was like, was that $20? Was that $5 or the $100? Was that. What is that costing me? And what's weird is that my Good to Go account, it appeared to have only charged me a$25 in tolls for the whole thing, which seemed very low. Yeah, from, like, Alderwood to Bellevue. And then I was telling my dad about this. I was like, I don't know. This is crazy that it was like, $1.25. And he goes, are you allowed to be in that lane if it's just one person? I said, I thought that's what the hot thing is. I thought you're allowed to be in there by yourself if you're willing to pay more money. But I actually don't know. I actually don't know that. I think I just assumed that. And so I don't. I mean, this person actually was going the other direction, so it's unlikely they were looking specifically at me. But I'm wondering if people saw me just driving in the HOV lane by myself without a care in the world, thinking that I was paying my way to a faster commute when maybe I wasn't even allowed to do that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, let me ask you this, Luke, because a lot of people have referred to you right after Elvis Mitchell as being the bad boy of public radio. And you're a known rule breaker. However, you're also somebody who does not like feeling shame in public or society. So I'm wondering how strongly you feel about this. Putting aside the confusion about hot lanes and hot zips and zip drives and all of that, how strongly do you feel you would not use the HOV lane? I'm asking you to be, like, vulnerable and honest here. You know what I Mean like on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being like, well I had to murder somebody for a parking spot and it got dark. And zero being like I will follow, I will stop at a stop sign. I will stop at a red light in the middle of a cornfield. Even if it doesn't change for 10 hours somewhere between there. Where are you on? It's pretty trafficky. I'll just hop in this HOV lane by myself for a second and no harm, no foul.

[Luke Burbank]

I do not ever use the HOV lanes intentionally if there's less than the number of people that should be in the car. I've never done that because that to me is like the accessible parking, the disabled parking near, you know, the closer to the store. It's like I feel like our society, as our society crumbles, I feel like we have a few things that we have to protect because it's what separates us from the apes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Love to hear it.

[Luke Burbank]

And it's like the HOV lane is one of those things because if everybody, it's obvious if everybody went and used it with just being by themselves in their car, then it would ruin it. So I don't, I don't think that's one of those like eh, no harm, no foul. I would probably run a red light in a cornfield. First I would ask how did this red light get in this cornfield?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, well, how did I get in this cornfield?

[Luke Burbank]

Is this a fee? Yeah, exactly. And are the police, you may ask yourself, is this like, is this a. Is this Field of dreams but related to traffic?

[Andrew Walsh]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

If you build it, they will come. It's a red light. Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Why is there an old blues man playing right in the crossroads underneath the flashing red light? How did this happen?

[Luke Burbank]

But, but, but as far as the HOV lane, I would not intentionally, but I'm now reading, I'm reading this and I think I may have been very much just violating the rules. I think like I'm looking at the, the website. The Washington State Department of Transportation I405 express toll lanes. The express toll lanes provide drivers a faster trip from Lynwood to Bellevue and back. With the I405 Express toll lanes, you have the choice to pay a toll for a faster trip when you need it. The express toll lanes. So that's how to pay. Good to go. I've got that toll rates now. But here's the thing that I don't understand. If you're a. How is the carpool driver not charged? So what I'm driving In this hot lane, I'm driving in this toll lane. It's just me and my car. I'm getting charged. But now let's say I'm in that same, I'm driving that same stretch of road. We've got, I've got you and I've got Genevieve and I got Becca in the car.

[Andrew Walsh]

And just to be, just to be safe, we also have a crash test dummy. We have a mannequin that you stole from your job department store.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, exactly, precisely. Let's just say that we've got enough folks in the car that we qualify for the carpool lane. But I'm still driving my same car. How are they not sending me the bill for all of the tolls that I'm accruing? How do they know that I'm in carpool mode and not in just Luke mode? That leads me to believe I should have never been in Luke mode.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, I'm looking at this too. This is very confusing. And also when you're driving and you're going that you're going that fast, sometimes it's kind of difficult to figure out the details of a pay for play.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I, I just think I might have mis filed this entire thing like years ago. I'm talking about the, what is it? The, the 167. What's the other, what's the other name? I used to be a traffic reporter, Andrew. There used to be a name for the, the 167 highway down south, down in the, you know, kind of like, you know, Kent sort of Auburn area.

[Andrew Walsh]

Anyway, there was, I'm unfamiliar.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, but the Valley Freeway maybe, I don't know. Anyway, the, the freeway down there, that's 167, which is south of South Center. That was the first place, I remember the first roadway where they were bringing in these, these basically dynamic toll pricing lanes. So the worse the traffic, the more expensive the toll becomes. And that was supposed to fund projects and give people an option if they were willing to pay to get where they were going faster. Somehow in all that, I assume that that then removed the carpool component. Like, because if you're in a carpool situation, well, of course you're allowed to use the lane. That's the point of the lane. So I, I, I'm still it. It's not very clear on this website if I was breaking the law or not. By the way, maximum fine is like 500 and something dollars. I think maybe even more. I could have been in big trouble.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's way more than you were Willing to pay, by the way, what were you doing?

[Luke Burbank]

You want to know?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I would pay anything for this commute, but I wouldn't pay that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly. So there is a line. We know that. No, I'm just as confused as you are here. I do. You know, like, I. It's so rare that I'm doing highway driving these days. Go to the airport and back. That's mostly it. But there are times of these, and I are on any kind of an extended drive where she has to remind me that there are two of us in the car and that I can use the HOV lane because I kind of tend to, like. I just stick to the rivers in the streams that I'm used to.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, Andrew, I'm sorry.

[Andrew Walsh]

I want some clarity. I was just filling time.

[Luke Burbank]

The problem is, it's coming from AI, So I typed in, can you drive solo in Toll Express Lane 405? And AI Overview said, yes, you can drive solo in the i405 Express toll lanes and the SR167 Hot lanes, but you will be charged a bill. This, though, it still doesn't explain how it would be that if I had, you know, you. Viv's Becca, the crash test dummy, and also the band Crash Test Dummies.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right? Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

So now it's a. It's a van situation, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. We're some kind of a big tent.

[Luke Burbank]

Maybe it's a small bus. We have a lot of people now in this vehicle.

[Andrew Walsh]

I like it. It's kind of like. It's kind of like painted on the outside.

[Luke Burbank]

So, yeah, Muppets sort of a situation. What I still don't understand, and someone will probably explain this to me, is how I go about not getting charged these special tolls. If I, in fact, have enough people in the vehicle to qualify under the carpool clause.

[Andrew Walsh]

Could it be the same cameras that are capturing the license plates are also clocking the number of people?

[Luke Burbank]

That just seems. Yeah, that seems technically. I mean, honestly, it both seems very doable and also kind of hard to pull off.

[Andrew Walsh]

It feels like the type of thing I don't have these kinds of issues with, like. Like law enforcement or even toll enforcement or any kind of enforcement being aided by cameras. I know that you and I used to talk about this, maybe even on the radio side of things on the Dave Ross show or whatever. Ross and Burbank. Sorry for the erasure there back in the day.

[Luke Burbank]

This Ross racer will not stand.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was erasing you, unfortunately. But I don't ever have an issue with red light Cameras or anything. I'm just like, whatever. It doesn't matter to me if a robot is, is catching me or a cop. And honestly, I'd rather deal with robots than cops. So like, I've always been kind of fine with that stuff. But usually this type of technology is not installed without somebody like kind of, you know, raising cane over privacy issues. And I could sort of, I do not recall any big headlines about like, Washington state uses cameras to count people in cars. I feel like that would be a headline I would have seen.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I'm still sorry I'm now deep. I'm listening to you, but I'm also now deep in a Reddit. Are Seattle, are you allowed to be in the express toll lane by yourself? And the consensus seems to be you're absolutely allowed to drive in the toll lane by yourself, except you're gonna have to pay for it. And if you are doing a carpool situation, you don't have to pay for it. And no one can explain how the system knows if you've got multiple people in the car or not. Now back to the question of like, you know, government surveillance. I am, I'll say the thing that I was always saying on Burbank and Burbank, see what I did there? I got rid of Ross because he, he got, he was getting top billing and the solo billing recently and now I need to get solo billing. What I used to always say, which I kind of stand by. Some of that was just, you know, time filling because we had to do three hours of commercial radio a day. But some of it, it's truly held thoughts of mine. Which is the thing about the cameras and the, all the stuff is we, if we really as a society, if we wanted really to have 100%, 100% participation in the rules such as speeding and coming to a complete stop, we could absolutely do that. We could set up cameras all along the freeway that would time exactly how fast you were going, take a picture of your license plate, and immediately issue a speeding ticket if you went one mile over the speed limit. We could, we have the ability to do that. We have the ability to police so much more stuff than we do because we all kind of low key understand that it would suck if you got a ticket every time you went 71 miles an hour. So I don't know what my sort of power out is on that other than it's interesting to me where our, our abilities because of technology are actually further, they're much greater than the amount that we actually apply those things. To regular life in a lot of ways because I just don't think we really want regular life to actually be totally the rules being followed to that letter of the law.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I, I, I just don't worry about that. Like honestly if somebody said yeah, if you go 71 you're going to be flagged. Everybody. Like if we all. I don't, I kind of don't really feel like having this debate because it suddenly not even, not even about like just like literally I'm sort of like boring myself here with it. Just sort of sounds like hot talk. Sort of like debate radio.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, no one's. And I'm not going to confuse this with hot.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I don't want to like, you know, try to win here. You're boring me to death and I am already dead.

[Luke Burbank]

You're boring me back to death.

[Andrew Walsh]

But like it, I have such a childish like sort of interpretation of that which is like, yeah, that's fine. Like if we all agree that there are certain speed that like driving in cars is incredibly dangerous and it's so much more dangerous than we actually treat it. And if there is some sort of technology that says like we might have to like, you know, we're still electing officials who are like, you know, creating these laws. So there still has to be general buy in from the society. But if at some point society is kind of like yeah, I'm gonna elect officials who say listen, it's really dangerous to go 75, so we're gonna raise the speed limit to 70. But literally you're always driving on some sort of an electrical mechanism that makes sure you don't go faster than 70 and everybody's way safer than that. And whether that is just like cameras that are tattletaling or some sort of mechanism that literally puts your car on a track and maintains it at 70, I'm kinda like, yeah, whatever, that's fine.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I mean I'm actually a very slow driver. Generally speaking. I'm fairly, I'm not trying to, you know, preserve my right to go fast and furious. I just, like I said, I just think it's like we have, there's this weird, there's this kind of, I always, I think when we did radio stuff I used to call it, I don't know, some sort of like the lubricant that allows the gears of society to move or the fact that you have the rules and then you have most people abiding generally within the rules. Occasionally running a yellow light maybe that's getting a little Bit towards red, things like that.

[Andrew Walsh]

I thought you were talking about Cuvoisier this whole time. The lubricant that allows society to move.

[Luke Burbank]

That lubricant that allows you to play darts.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was. Really? Now it took me 12 years. And now. Now I hear it.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, rave to my friend Andrew, who just realized I wasn't talking about Courvoisier.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know why. That's the only liqueur I can think of.

[Luke Burbank]

We was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark. Get set, get set now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ready?

[Luke Burbank]

Ready? Go. Everybody, razzle dazzle. Sorry, I'm a little late jumping back into the fray here, Andrew. I'm just pounding these frescas and it's, you know, causing me a. But here's. I don't want to be gross, but what's happening is I feel like I need to burp, but I can't or I have not. And I was hoping that if I had my mic paused a little bit longer, I could kind of force the issue, but it didn't work. So now I'm just dealing with it. I just have a low level feeling that I need to burp, but I can't. So we're just gonna have to go with it.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know what? I'm just now realizing Genevieve did something very uncharacteristic the other day. I had the hiccups. I had it for about maybe three, three, four hiccups. Good. Good job. And then I said to Vee, oh, I have the hiccups. And she just turned to me and jumped out of her chair and, like, kind of grabbed my arm and said, boo or something like that. This was. This is not part of our usual, you know.

[Luke Burbank]

Was she wearing the horse mask?

[Andrew Walsh]

She was wearing the horse mask. And she startled me. I'm like, what the hell are you doing? She's like, I'm trying to scare the hiccups out of you.

[Luke Burbank]

Did it work?

[Andrew Walsh]

And I was like. I was so taken aback by that that we had a conversation about how that was very unusual for her. And it did startle me. And it didn't even occur to me until this very moment. Yeah, the hiccups did go away. I was so distracted. I never even stopped to think, like, oh, that actually worked.

[Luke Burbank]

But it was less the scaring and it was the post morte.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, it must have been. I think the post morte got in the way of me realizing how effectual it was.

[Luke Burbank]

Good For. I mean, how fun that 20 plus years in your partner can still surprise you. Andrew.

[Andrew Walsh]

Finding new ways to make me lose my breath.

[Luke Burbank]

Right when they say you take my breath away, it's usually in a. More of a, you know, Berlin. And I mean the band, not the city. Although that could also happen in this. Is that who did take my breath Away?

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know, but I just had a realization. We have to get to the dazzling donors.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm sorry, but I just think is being paid for.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do you remember the huge trend? We might still be living in it now. I'm not sure, but definitely like five years ago. Every five years ago, they probably weren't making movie trailers because of the pandemic. Whatever. In recent cinema history, every trailer for a movie took some sort of popular song and slowed it down. Like they did a new version of it that slowed it down to like a quarter of a speed and it became very kind of ominous or whatever. How did they not use Take My Breath Away for some sort of a murdery kind of scary movie? Like that version of Take My. You know, that interpretation of Take My Breath Away.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is. It is. It is a little slow as is, but it is very much a love song. And you're right to decontextualize it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Walking in slow motion Something, something take my breath away. I don't know any of the lyrics of that song, but yeah, I could see it. Well, it's not too late. When we make our horror film. We've already got. We already know the music for the trailer.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's gonna be. We're gonna pay for that. And it was by Berlin. Is that what you said?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, I did.

[Andrew Walsh]

Congratulations. Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Although it could happen in the city.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

We are at the part of the show where we thank dazzling donors. These folks are taking our breath away with their donation of a dazzling amount of dough. It's how this thing can happen. We have a business boys meeting tomorrow where we're gonna be talking about lots of things, including probably the thon. We will have a tbtl. A thon this summer. It's going to be a whole thing.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right.

[Luke Burbank]

The whole situation. And we can't wait to tell you.

[Andrew Walsh]

About it ever closer. I'm starting to get some. You know it's happening because I'm starting to seep into my dreams a tiny bit real now.

[Luke Burbank]

I was telling Becca about a stress dream I had the other night and it was that I was at. I was at a hotel, but I couldn't find my room. And I needed to send you the file. I needed to send you my audio file from my side of our conversation, but I couldn't find my hotel room. And also, I had a flight that was leaving in two hours, and if I didn't get on that flight, I was going to not get to some other city in time for a television shoot. And she goes, I have no idea why that would be your stress dream. I just described my actual life. Many days did.

[Andrew Walsh]

I had a stress dream. So it's not unusual for me to have stress dreams related to work. One that is very common, and this usually has to do with when I'm doing one of those live radio hits, is I just had this the other day is like, I'm filling in for somebody's music show at an actual radio station. And I'm like, I put on a song, the song is always ending. I finally grab those, and then I run and I get a new CD, but it's like the CDs are out of order. There's always some reason you're running back, you're always late, and there's always dead air. And then you got to do a top of the hour, and you don't know what to say.

[Luke Burbank]

And I don't even think I get to. I used to get to dead air. I would just be perpetually in that. Oh, f. There's like, there's 10 seconds left on this song.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's all. And then it's like, oh, but this record isn't open. Something like, now I got vinyl in there. And I was. I remember specifically. Anyway, so I'll have dreams like that. I'll have tbtl. Stress dreams. They usually manifest. And you and I are on the road somewhere, usually doing a live show or an event, and so it might take place on stage. Sometimes it's like we just got done with a big thing and we realized we didn't plan the next day's show and we're hunting around for each other. It's just like, general stress stuff, usually not toxic or anything like that. But then the other day I just had a work dream where you and I were just like, yeah, we'll take care of it every now and then.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, nice.

[Andrew Walsh]

I just have dreams that are just very practical and fine. And I don't remember the details of it, and the listeners are probably happy of that, but I remember, like, we were in an Airbnb. You were in the other room. We were talking through an open door and just being like, you want to do that. Yeah, that sounds fun. All right, great. Let's do that. You know, every now and then you should be able to have a work dream where you're just like, getting shit done, you know?

[Luke Burbank]

That's really nice to hear. Well, maybe that means we're in good shape for this upcoming thon, or at least we're thinking about it early. And we're, of course, very, very thankful for the people that. That answered the call during the last thon. Folks like Danny Crawford. Danny of television's FBI. Andrew, is this the Danny Crawford?

[Andrew Walsh]

It is. I love it. Now, I'm assuming that Danny put that in his note from television's FBI. There's a chance John put that in there, but no, we would remember anyway. But I do love that. I think that Danny should go around, if he's not already doing this, always introducing himself as Danny Crawford from television's FBI.

[Luke Burbank]

I would totally support that. I got a chance to see. When we were in Philly, I got to see Danny and his wife Diana, and they were, I believe, in the family way with twins. And I think that we're gonna get an update on that story. Hey, friendos. 2024 was a wild year for yours truly. Capped off with the introduction of two new identical fives. You know, you put them in a trench coat, you got a 10. That's right, Danny. Just so you know.

[Andrew Walsh]

And tens donate.

[Luke Burbank]

That's exactly right. I'm trying to get out of this with them being fives. Okay. Two fives together is a 10. Get. They've got to donate, Andrew. It's like calico cut pants. Ash short for Ashley and Cameron. Aw. Ash and Cameron, born Dec. 23. Pregnancy was a wild ride for us. And by us, I mean my wife Diana. Thank you, Danny, for. Thank you for clarifying. I mean, I have mixed feelings about that. Which, by the way, I don't need to have feelings about this because it's not my life. But on the one hand, I do think it's nice when the non pregnant person says we're pregnant because I think it's a way of saying this is. We're in this together.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sure.

[Luke Burbank]

But if I were the pregnant partner, I might also be like, we're. We're in this together in the way a chicken donating an egg to a breakfast is different than a pig donating bacon to the breakfast.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm not. I don't like whatever just happened. I don't like it. Whatever. Comparing the eggs and meat and everything. I don't know, I just mean the.

[Luke Burbank]

Level of commitment from the person who has got the babies inside them is different than the person who doesn't have the babies inside them. So I can see it both ways. When I meet someone and they say we're pregnant and they're not, the person who's pregnant in the relationship, I see it as kind of a nice thing because it's, again, a way of saying we're in it together. But also it's a little like what Danny's pointing out here is, this was a heavier lift for Diana.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, the truly weird thing is when I am, you know, introducing a pregnant friend of mine to somebody, I say, we are pregnant. I'm inserting myself into this situation all the time in grossly inappropriate ways.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. And that's why you were not allowed at the after party in Philadelphia where I hung out with Danny and Diana. So check this out. Check this journey for the family by us. I mean, my wife, Diana, whose list of due dates went from February 9 to January 21 to December 31 to being told tomorrow on December. This is like a list of how my emotions when I officially give up on the Mariners. First I'm told it's September 25th, and then I find out it's July 11th, and then I find out it's June, and then I found out it's almost yesterday, if not for one hit by Polanco.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

So the due date. Original due date, February 9, and then we end up all the way back at December 23rd to 5:00 tonight, as in get in here.

[Andrew Walsh]

So literally, they hear tomorrow. Okay, on 23rd, like, come in tomorrow. And then it was like, nope, get in here tonight.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Well, they were. Yeah. Yeah, Exactly. So on December 23rd, they were being told the 24th, they were like, it could be tomorrow. And then it was like, actually 5:00 tonight. The boys were born at 33 weeks and had a stint in the NICU to put on some weight before coming home. So I real quick want to shout out NICU nurses who are amazing caregivers and teachers and any parents of preemies should consider themselves lucky if your baby gets a layover in their care. Absolutely true. I mean, and I think all nurses and medical staff are sort of underappreciated, and so many of them have such incredibly challenging jobs, and the NICU has got to be right up there at the top. Dealing with, you know, little babies that are. That are needing medical attention must be a really intense thing to do. So thanks to the folks that do that professionally, now we're back to Danny. It's all about Danny again.

[Andrew Walsh]

Andrew from television's FBI.

[Luke Burbank]

That's the one I'm talking about. Professionally. I also had the best gig of my life this past year working as Jude Law's stand in.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nice.

[Luke Burbank]

Hell yes. From April through September on a new Netflix show named Black Rabbit, which I highly recommend or encourage everyone to check out when it premieres this spring. I can't say much more until it airs, but stay tuned. Wow. I wonder if that means. Is Danny friends with Jude Law? And does that mean I am no longer even in the top five of Danny's most famous friends? Have I been knocked out of the top five by Jude Law? I mean, Jude Law would be number one, presumably. Unless we're talking about the star of FBI.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I mean, he must have a lot of famous friends just from his work on that network show. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

I feel like I went on a little jag with watching FBI a while ago, a couple years ago. I really enjoyed it in that. And I think Daniel would be okay with me saying this in that kind of like, it's very comforting to watch a procedural like that. Like, I understand why they're popular because there's a very clear set of, like, plot points and the sort of good guys and bad guys, and it's pretty satisfying at the end. And Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy spoke on the pod today. There's a. There's a guy who's the. The star when I was watching FBI, the guy who's got, like the main investigator, Jeremy Cisco, I think. Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was like, throwing out. I was like irons. And then I didn't have any. Anything else after that.

[Luke Burbank]

But I would Pivin. How you live in Jay Piven.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right. Of course.

[Luke Burbank]

No, it's. I think it's. It's Jeremy either. I think it's Sisto maybe. And he was one of the first famous people that I saw. I think he was the boyfriend on Six Feet Under. And I was watching a lot of Six Feet under when I moved to la or maybe shortly before. And I remember going into a bathroom at the bar there on Sunset called Akbar, which I think is very cool. Again, it's weird to see bars that I used to go to that were sort of dive bars for me and my friends, and then see the young people on TikTok talking about how they went to say Akbar or one of these places. And it's like, you can't get in. It's a line out the door or whatever. But anyway, I remember going into a bathroom and Seeing Jeremy Sisto.

[Andrew Walsh]

You're right about Sisto, by the way. Can I make you more confident in there? Like it is Sisto. I've looked it up.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. I. Sisto Morris. O la la.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh la la.

[Luke Burbank]

But anyway, I remember going into a bathroom at that bar and seeing him coming out and being like, oh, my God, it's happening. I'm seeing Hollywood. I'm seeing Hollywood types. They're just like me. They also use this restroom at this bar. Act.

[Andrew Walsh]

Bar.

[Luke Burbank]

But anyway, point in all this is to say it goes, Jer. It goes. It probably goes Jude Law. Then it goes Jeremy Sisto. Then it goes the singer Cisco.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Then it goes, maybe me. Maybe I'm still in the top four. I mean, there's gotta. Yeah, there's still gotta be a lot of other people just in the television work that Danny knows that are more famous than me. So I'll just have to live with it.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm trying to. I don't know if I knew you were a 6ft underhead. Were you a 6ft underhead? Like, pretty heavily into it.

[Luke Burbank]

I had multiple autographed Alan Ball pieces of memorabilia.

[Andrew Walsh]

Andrew Veeves and I were very much into it. And I wasn't sure to what degree you were. I love. To this show. I don't know how it would hold up because this was kind of on the early edge of that sort of like premium television.

[Luke Burbank]

Television.

[Andrew Walsh]

Television.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I'm looking at, like, old photos of Jeremy Sisto from 1600. I'm like, oh, yeah, he was. I'm having trouble. Like, my brain is really struggling to put it in the context of the plot of the TV show. But he was the. He was in, like, a very, like, kind of tempestuous relationship with a woman. Right. But I can't remember what that.

[Luke Burbank]

I think he was maybe the boyfriend of the daughter.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't think it was the daughter.

[Luke Burbank]

Wasn't the daughter. Maybe there was an age difference. I got into Six Feet under the first wave of Netflix. So, like, I didn't have, you know, I don't think I had HBO at that time, but what I did have was a Netflix account.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And I was getting those DVDs, those autographed Alan Ball DVDs, delivered to home and really, as they would say, binging on stuff like the Sopranos and Six Feet Under. There was any cool HBO show that I could get my hands on, I would. I do not think that I got all the way to the end of the show, which. Which was not because of anything about the program. I just, you know, my life changed. I was busy or something. But I did have a funny. Listen, I don't want to scare. Don't want to scare the listeners. Everything is a. Okay, everything is great. But I was on a jog with Becca on Sunday and I started to feel a little bit of like. My left arm started feeling kind of like it was going numb. And the first thing I thought of was narm. Yes, I think of.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think of narm all the time.

[Luke Burbank]

I think of narm a lot.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think of narm way too much, my dude. I'm so. You know, you were saying before that Beeves and I, after so many years, still fight new things to. To commune about. Like. Yes, I did not know that you. If I said narm to you, I had no confidence you'd ever have any idea what I'm talking about. I think of Norm way too often and probably more and more as I.

[Luke Burbank]

I hadn't thought of it in a long time until that happened. And I told Becca, I'm gonna walk for a couple blocks because I didn't say I'm having narm. But I was like, this is. This is. This is how it starts. Anyway, congratulations for about a million reasons to Danny and Diana and to Ash and Cameron and to Jude Law and to the whole gang.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, here's what I think it is, by the way. I think that I can't remember his name, but I think Peter Krause's character had a very tempestuous relationship with this woman named Brenda. Right. And is there a chance that Billy was Brenda's brother? I know it's a lot of bees do because I'm looking it up. There's Billy Chenoweth and Brenda Chenoweth.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah. And I'm pretty sure she was played by Rachel something. She's that Aussie that was in a bunch of stuff for a while. Right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Let me see here. Her. Rachel Griffiths.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. She was in a lot of stuff, but yes, I could see that being the case.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Because they both have the same last name. And so I'm guessing that they might have been brother, sister. While she had this sort of off again, on again, troubled relationship with Krause's character. Krause. What a hottie. Where is he these days?

[Luke Burbank]

It's Kraus, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I always thought it was Krause. I don't know why I thought. I think Genevieve says Krause and I just say what she says. Yeah. I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

You could surprise her by saying Krause to see what happens?

[Andrew Walsh]

She'll stop hiccuping almost immediately.

[Luke Burbank]

She'll be terrified. All hiccups. I don't know. The last time I got the hiccups, I do think maybe because of, like, you know, a reduction in my drink.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I was drinking at the time, by the way.

[Luke Burbank]

I think.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think I was drinking whiskey.

[Luke Burbank]

In fact, I think that that's one of the things about living a slightly less lushy life that I didn't expect to go away was the hiccups. I kind of miss them. I don't think I've had the hiccups in a while.

[Andrew Walsh]

Now, I want to be clear here. And it doesn't matter. I'm allowed to be drunk. I'm an adult. But I wasn't drunk. I was. It wasn't like, late at night, and I was. I was messing. We were just. Pardon me. We were just.

[Luke Burbank]

What I heard was you were a cartoon mouse. You hiccup, and you hiccuped a bubble that enveloped you and floated you off.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, the weird thing is I ended up in the bottle. I was drinking.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. Yeah, I can picture that. All right, thanks so much, Danny and Diana. Maestro. On your mark.

[Andrew Walsh]

On your mark.

[Luke Burbank]

Get set, get set now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ready?

[Luke Burbank]

Ready, Go. Everybody rattle. Look who it is. It's Tyler Strange in Monroe, Louisiana.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, Strange, the master of the mystical arts in the.

[Luke Burbank]

I want to say that's Marvel, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

Marvel Universe, I believe so.

[Luke Burbank]

That's. That's a Benedict Cumberbatch, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

I believe so. Yes. Good job.

[Luke Burbank]

Me and my dad. I want to be clear. I am so grateful that both my parents are still alive and healthy. That's a real gift. Gift and. And one that I would never take for granted. And I. I love my parents so much. They are pretty insane. Or at least I do end up in these conversations with them, particularly when my dad's here working or like my mom and dad were here. I told you the story of the. The time where my mom. We spent a good half hour to hour trying to figure out the, as she described it, gay actor who's really good and was in the movie called Guilt and is dead now. And we figured out that it was Philip Seymour Hoffman, who is not gay, as far as we knew. And in the movie Doubt, I believe.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that's right. Guilt and doubt.

[Luke Burbank]

Guilt and doubt. And his sexual identity, as far as we understand. But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, you nailed it. But then yesterday, the whole dinner conversation, as I was making, by the way, this amazing rice, this recipe that Becca turned me onto. Which is just basically rice. But you chop up a bunch of cilantro and throw it in at the end and it just ends up it's basmati rice. But then, you know, you put a few little things in there. You toast it before you cook it. So this was my first time making rice. Not in the rice, you know, not in the instant pot. So that was a little, that was nerve wracking for me. But it turned out really, really good. And then you just chop up all this cilantro and put it in there and you've got basically like this rice. It tastes a lot like the rice you'd get at Chipotle.

[Andrew Walsh]

When you say, did you say you toast the rice a little bit before.

[Luke Burbank]

You actually put the water in?

[Andrew Walsh]

Interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

So you put a little evoo, extra virgin olive oil or even regular virgin, I don't know, six months pregnant olive oil. Whatever you got, throw that in the pan. I was using a Dutch oven. And then put the rice in, wash the rice and then dry it off a little bit. Then put it in and then toast it, Get a little crisp going, not too much. And then you put your water in and then you throw in the seasonings and like a little, a pinch of salt on the pat of butter. And then you just let it cook for like 15, 20 minutes. And then you fluff it up with a fork. And then you put in all of this chopped cilantro that's just on standby and then you stir it together. Oh my gosh. I like want to go inside and start eating this rice again.

[Andrew Walsh]

It was really good. I've never even heard of that before. I now want to try it.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, we were having it with enchiladas.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love chipotle rice so much. I haven't been to Chipotle in a really long time. But yeah, there's something about that. And it sounds like it's pretty basic, but I've never tried to recreate it at home.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's mostly the cilantro going in at the end, which hadn't occurred to me, but it just, it really jus it up. But as I'm making all this and my dad's sitting over there on his iPad, we're trying to figure out what we're going to watch. I'm by the way, I'm dying here because I really want to watch the final episode of the White Lotus. But I have this guy, I have this 73 year old guy who lives with me who is not watching the White Lotus. So it's like I'm just every. I'm like, can I. I need to. I'm going to hide in my bedroom and watch it on my laptop.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wait, does he care about it being spoiled?

[Luke Burbank]

No, but it's a little fresh, probably. For watching with Walt.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think I can give you an.

[Luke Burbank]

All clear on that for the finale.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I don't think you're gonna be sitting through any explicitly sexual scenes or anything like that.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, thank you know what, Andrew? This is a very useful service.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I'm just racking my brain because I watched it a couple of nights ago. It's a long one. It's not 90 minutes.

[Luke Burbank]

I think we were watching some British thing last night that had a pretty unexpected sex scene happening in it on par with anything the White Lotus has. So, yeah, I mean, but all that is to say, last night I'm making the rice. The rice, dad.

[Andrew Walsh]

It.

[Luke Burbank]

It yields.

[Andrew Walsh]

I basically realized I chew it.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm reenacting the Jonathan Catch show with my actual father. Anyway, the whole time I'm going, hey, dad, well, what about heels? Well, we could watch this one show and it's some like old, old BBC thing from 20 years ago or something, mystery, whatever crime show. I was like, well, what about that prestige show that I feel like has, like. I go, it's got. I think it's got David Tennant and somebody else in it. And then we just spent 45 minutes naming somebody else's that weren't the people and getting no closer to figure. And then at the end, I was like, I don't know, maybe it's Benedict Cumberbatch. I'm not sure. And then he's just like, I don't have any information. And he's googling around, but he's not finding anything. And I don't feel like he's looking for it in the right manner. And then at the end we just agree that we'll just never know the answer to that. That is what happens in this house now at night. I was just trying to figure out a show that I think maybe David Tennant is in with some other heavy hitter of like, British television.

[Andrew Walsh]

I am the wrong person to ask about this, but David Tennant, he's not the guy who's in Broadchurch, is he? Because that would be.

[Luke Burbank]

He is, but it was in Broadchurch. He was also a doctor in Doctor who.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. Because that's also Olivia. I'm blanking on her name, but she would also be another, you know, notable person. Yeah, Olivia Colman. That Show. Did you watch that show? That first? Amazing.

[Luke Burbank]

I didn't, but I'm very. I would like to watch it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And I'm very familiar with the idea of Broadchurch. And if I was trying to name Broadchurch, I would have said, you know what I mean? So mildly offended. When my dad was like, you're thinking of Broadridge. I was like, dad, it's. I'm not thinking of Broad, Dad. The hair, it's dirty. Just kept saying to him over and over again. Anyway, back to Tyler Strange.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Like the Doctor. Like the Master of Mystical Arts. Like the Benedict Cumberbatch that he is.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like the David Tenant that he is.

[Luke Burbank]

That's right. Says always. Great job, you guys. I listen daily. Thanks for the video message on my birthday. Absolutely. Happy blurs, Tyler. I don't have anything to promote or any shout outs. I guess the only thing I wonder about is the status of Sha Dori, Japan's number one mixer. What is he up to these days? We heard from Jen fairly recently when Andrew was on vacay and that was awesome. Took me back to the old days. No offense. Andrew, you're here. You go with integral or integral.

[Andrew Walsh]

I would say integral. I think it's easier for me to say integral, but I like integral better.

[Luke Burbank]

I think integral is correct, though. You're integral, vital, handsome and smart.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, thank you. I gotta say that's not enough, though. I still remain offended. I feel like, let's see, you've given us super dazzling donor donations. If you got the video message as.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, you've called me even more dazzling amount.

[Andrew Walsh]

You've called me integral, vital, handsome and smart. That's all good, but that's what we call a start. That's what we call a start.

[Luke Burbank]

The starting point in the negotiation and.

[Andrew Walsh]

Winning me back over. No, I appreciate Tyler.

[Luke Burbank]

Anyway, could we get Jen back occasionally and maybe Sean. That is a great idea, Tyler. We love both of them. They're both welcome on the show anytime and we should. Yeah, I should be more intentional about that. I will say that I have a kind of now a parasocial relationship with Japan's number one mixer because he voices many of the. The radio spots that play during the Mariners. And I feel like he recently branched down into acting. Have you heard this new one where he's doing a lot of acting? It's pretty good.

[Andrew Walsh]

Which one?

[Luke Burbank]

Because I have seriously remember anything about the product or service or government program or whatever it is. But what I remember was driving and listening to the game and. And thinking, oh, this is this is like Sean being a character, not just being the voice of Sean, you know, but this is like Sean being a character. And he did a really good job with it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I don't want to sound condescending here because Sean started doing, like on air voice work for promos and commercials, I'm going to say, you know, more than five years ago. It's been quite, quite a while now, and it is really cool. And again, this might sound condescending, but I don't mean it that way because I don't have that skill. We've heard me try to portray a goldfish on the radio. Acting is not. Wait, did I do that? I can't remember. Anyway, acting is not a skill of mine at all. And it's been really, really interesting to hear Sean because every time I hear his voice, I perk up a little bit, right? And I hear so many of. I listen to that station constantly. And so it went from being, you know, pretty, you know, straightforward radio reads to, yes, I'm hearing him more and more. I started to hear him on other stations because he's doing the mesothelioma. I think I messed that up. Ad, like lawsuit ads or whatever. And so those are produced in house at one station, but then also they do air on other stations. And like, I have just heard him grow as a broadcaster so much all the time. And again, he was already starting from a strong position. It's just that his. His, you know, his talents have grown as they put more and more on him. And I could be wrong about this. I am very in tune to people's voices. If I'm right about this, this would be bananas. And Tyler should compliment me even more. I think I heard Sean's voice as part of a chorus in one of these jingles. And Luke, I'm not kidding. I almost reached out to him. I haven't talked to him in a long time. He might be a voice in the. You'll be sorry. You'll be sorry. I swear. There's so jingle where I.

[Luke Burbank]

It all comes back to video only.

[Andrew Walsh]

Where I think I hear him in the background of some. Of some. You know, it's like several voices all sort of singing something at once. And it might be the video only you'll be sorry. Little. I don't know if that's a jingle or what you would call it, but we need to get to the bottom of that. That.

[Luke Burbank]

That's. Wow. Okay, I'm gonna. You've now given me a reason to really lock in on those Video only ads.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Because that. If you. If you are right about that, that would be in an incredible poll. Most of Sean's singing that I know of is. Is his cover of the Danzig song Mother.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, does he do that?

[Luke Burbank]

Really crushes. Really crushes that song. But anyway, yes, to answer your question, Tyler, we love Jen and Sean, and, you know, they're welcome here anytime. We'll try to come up with something to get the gang back together. So thank you so much for the support. We could not do this show without you. Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female.

[C]

Oh, man.

[Luke Burbank]

It's not from a female. All right, Maybe tomorrow, Andrew, if we have time, we'll talk about this story of this guy going to this island, which is actually kind of interesting. Kind of has some implications. Not for us. I don't think we're going to the island, but we can maybe talk about that tomorrow. In the meantime, do we have any emails or V mails that are of interest? Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

What do we have any update on your bike? Have you ridden your bike yet, Andrew?

[Luke Burbank]

I have not been. I know this sounds like an excuse.

[Andrew Walsh]

You don't answer to anybody. I just asked.

[Luke Burbank]

I do know how to ride a bike. First of all, for those of you that think that this is, you know, I'm just covering for the fact that I can't ride a bike. I theoretically can't.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's one of those bikes where your feet touch the ground.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, it's a Strider.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

But it's an E bike. No, I'm not kidding. I have not been at home on a day that has not been raining torrentially and freezing since I got the bike. Since day one. Day one, I got the bike. I put it together. It wasn't even a nice day. It just wasn't actively raining. And then I rode up and down the hill and came back, and then I was like, first nice day. Can't wait to take this thing out. I have not been here on a. This is. I'm really. I'm really mad at the weather. I know being mad at the weather is not a personality or it shouldn't be, and I know that this is not. This doesn't loom as large in your life. But I felt. I felt an emotional anger at the weather today as I was trying to do some stuff in the yard and pick up stuff that was blowing around. And I had, of course, had to. I had taken the COVID off the barbecue one day when I was Barbecuing. My parents were here, so that had blown practically over in the other yard. I had to go get it and put it on in this whipping wind. What I feel like we normally get in the northwest. And maybe I was just out of town when this happened. There's usually a week of gorgeous pre spring weather.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, we did have that. You were in England, I think.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, well, that makes more sense because.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was just like, I was mad at everybody. They were pre. Complaining about fall spring. Instead of people just being like, wow, we're getting a week of incomplete, incredibly beautiful weather in the winter. Everybody was like, don't fall for it. It's fake. I'm like, it's not fake. It's outside my window right now. Like, just go outside.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, well, you know what? Then, Then I, I, I retract the balance of my time. Like, as long as it happened. I wish I could have been here for it, but I was just walking around today like, like, literally, like, emotionally angry at the weather for what it's been doing. All that is to say.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I do want to ask.

[Luke Burbank]

I have yet to ride the bike.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I know that you're, you're busy. You might not have been at home, but you this weekend, right. That wasn't just up here in Seattle. Friday and Saturday here were incredible.

[Luke Burbank]

I guess Friday was pretty nice, but my parents were here, so I, in fairness and again, I'm not trying to.

[Andrew Walsh]

Put you on the spot about the bike thing. I feel like I set this up the wrong way.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't feel on the spot.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm so freaking excited about this bike. I am like, I am. I cannot wait. I think about it, like, when I'm lying in bed, I'm like, imagining a nice sunny day.

[Andrew Walsh]

Peewee Herman.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. Oh, I did get that chain too. But, but yeah, Friday was, was nice, but my parents were here and so. Well, first of all, I was getting my eye worked on.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Luke Burbank]

And then my parents were here, so I could have. If I would have been solo, that would have been maybe a nice day to take the bike out. But my parents were here and now it's been terrible since then. Will be the rest of this week. Also, my dad is here sometime next week when I'm back home. Hopefully there'll be a nice day and I will get out there for a ride and I will tell you all about. I will spare no detail.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. Anyway, the reason I bring this up is we were talking about you assembling your new bike and how you have A spiffy new bike helmet that you like. And that's important to you because liking the look and shape and feel of a bike helmet is important because you didn't grow up wearing bike helmets. And we got a voicemail from listener Chris in New York City.

[C]

Hey, dummies, it's your friend Chris Hayes. I was listening to your helmet conversation and I just got to say, you absolutely have to wear a helmet if you're riding an E bike. It's like really non negotiable. But I also wanted to just give a little helmet psa, which is, sorry, I'm walking outside. I have an electric scooter that I take my 10 year old son to school on every day. He goes to school about 1.2 miles from our house. It's the easiest way to get in there. He sort of stands in front of me, I stand behind him. And the beginning, we wouldn't get a helmet because it's not going that fast. Also, we're standing up, so it kind of feels like, you know, if you need to hop off. And my wife was like, correctly, we should always have helmets. Which we operationalized and we always have helmets. And then lo and behold, taking him to school one morning, hit a patch of black ice during the winter and absolutely wiped out. And I saw him in front of me and I saw his helmeted head bounce off the curb.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

And he was totally fine because he was wearing a helmet. But in case there was any doubt about whether helmets are necessary. Very good reminder. They are. They are quite necessary. All right.

[Luke Burbank]

Wow, that would be traumatic.

[Andrew Walsh]

That is chilling. Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Yikers. Yeah. You know, I have become very pro helmet, actually, and it's because of Tick Tock. So let's give, let's give Tick Tock some credit. I saw a. I guess I don't know if he would be a neurologist, some doctor who, you know, who deals with brain injuries and they'll like. And he was being asked by somebody kind of like, what, what's your opinion on people that don't wear helmets when they're riding a bike or whatever. And he said, he goes, I don't want to be cruel, but we just, you know, I forget the term he used, but he was like, we call them experiments or something. He was like, so many people come in to the ER and their lives are either over or radically changed because of a head injury because they were riding a bike or a scooter or a skateboard or something and they. And they don't have to be going fast and they don't have to be that far off the ground. But basically when they. His. His point was when you go out, you know, famously, people used to, you know, people in the medical profession would call motorcyclists donor cyclists, which, you know, is pretty grim. And I'm not trying to shade anybody who likes motorcycles, but like, what this doctor was basically saying was if you choose not to wear a helmet, you are greatly increasing the chance that you will become somebody that a med student is studying on in some capacity because it's so bad for your head to hit the pavement and it's so easy for it to happen. And anyway, in watching various medical professionals weigh in on basically the things they've seen from people not wearing helmets, it really did a number on me. I also think part of it is that I'm 48 and I'm not 28. I think it. Because I used to have a whole rant about like, we didn't wear helmets and we were fine. And like, you know, I, I mean, it's what a weird, what a bizarre flex. But I remember even thinking at times like, well, if I had kids, I wouldn't make them wear helmets. Like, you got these kids that are wearing helmets on their little back to the strider thing, you know, this little non. There's no pedals on it, just a little thing. You, you got a kid in a helmet. And I think I used to see that and just be like, we're just bubble wrapping these kids. And now it's like, well, how about the kid starts out early associating riding around on things with wheels, with having head protection on. You know, that's probably not a bad idea. Like it also, and this is sad for me that this is how I arrive at things. The design helps. This helmet that I bought, the design of it is pretty dope. It's got this light built into the back of it. It's got a headlight.

[Andrew Walsh]

It looks like Knight Riders helmet.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, it looks. I look like a silver hawk or something.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's the sound of the light going back and forth. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

It also regularly kind of makes fun of me. Oh, really? That's the fastest you're going to go? It's exactly like kit. That's what you're wearing for your date, Michael.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wow. Yeah, Kit was real catty. Real catty.

[Luke Burbank]

But anyway, I am now very, very. I've gone from being kind of, I wouldn't say anti helmet, but thinking like, what's the fuss about? And also, you know, again, I Never wore a helmet. And I was fine. I'm very grateful that I was fine. And going forward, like, you won't catch me out on this bike without the helmet.

[Andrew Walsh]

I make Bingo wear a helmet around the house because sometimes he's jumping down off of tall things. And honestly.

[Luke Burbank]

But it's a. It's a small watermelon that you've carved into, like, an old timey football helmet. Have you seen that meme? There's some picture. It's an old meme of a cat that's wearing, like, somebody has cut a watermelon and put it on their head like an old timey football helmet.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, you. Okay. So I, you know, I was immediately picturing like, Heathcliff comic strips or something, because I felt like that's what he did, but you mean this is an actual photo of some project Somebody.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, there's actually a few of them. If you Google cat watermelon helmet, you get. You get more results than you'd expect. This is what I was thinking when you were talking about putting a helmet on. Bingo.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, maybe I had these, like, pork bangs. Yeah, I like that. They're tiny little. They must. Are they watermelons or are they little mini? Like, are these.

[Luke Burbank]

They've got to be some kind of a smallish thing. Because I think unless if a regular watermelon works as your cat's helmet, you should probably consider a different food for the cat.

[Andrew Walsh]

And then if they shake it off, you can say, you're out of your gourd.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, that's a pretty good spoon. Chris, I'm very glad to hear that you're okay and that your kid is okay and that you're. I mean, I. I would say the. The only bad outcome of this is that I'm sure Kate found out about it and you have lost all ability to argue any point around child safety for the rest of your natural life.

[Andrew Walsh]

Which he probably welcomes. Actually, the way this turned out, that's probably a good thing. I love the idea of Kate learning this from, like, what minute number 79 of TBTL.

[Luke Burbank]

I love the idea of Chris telling his son, be cool when we get home, paying him off with Mr. Softy Ice Cream and other such enticement so that Kate doesn't find out that they had a really, really scary incident, that they were only saved because of the helmet that she had advocated for.

[Andrew Walsh]

No joke, though. That's the kind of story that is so evocative that that will stick with me and listeners, I think, like that actual imagery that Chris set up There. That is like. That's really powerful stuff. That's like an actually really good psa.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely. And we are the number one show for helmet PSAs.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. Well, that well. And colonoscopy be PSAs.

[Luke Burbank]

Speaking of which, my friend. See, now I'm in the club of like, I've had a colonoscopy, so now I get.

[Andrew Walsh]

I thought you had some update. I have.

[Luke Burbank]

No, I have this.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can you see this? I'll hold it up there. Can you see I've got this card on my desk. Yeah, actually, my doctor has kind of nice handwriting. Huh?

[Luke Burbank]

It is nice handwriting, John.

[Andrew Walsh]

Don't put this on insta. It's not worth it. But, yeah, I'm just holding up a little card that says appointment colonoscopy, and it's got a phone number that I was supposed to call, but then I got confused because then they emailed me and they said, answer all these questions, like in the. My chart portal. And so then I copy and paste and I go to respond and it's like, well, this is way too long. You can't send a note this long. And I'm like, well, what do you want me to do to answer all your questions? I sent them a note saying, how am I supposed to fill this form out? And then I got a notification that that note didn't go through either. And then I said, you know what? I tried. I'm just going to hook it. I'm just going to put a hose up my butt.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, sure. I mean, that's also where I'm sure there was somebody when we were talking about this, that was in the comments, that was in my email saying, that's the gold standard. So whatever I was saying, it was.

[Andrew Walsh]

Apparently, no, I am going to. I am going to sit down and take care of that. Actually, this week I had this TV tale project that I'm excited about, but also, it was a bit of a mental burden for me to begin, I think.

[Luke Burbank]

Good job on that, by the way.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thank you. We'll talk more about that soon. But it was one of those things where they were kind of like, well, I got to relearn this and relearn that. And yesterday I had this moment. I tried to describe it to Genevieve. I don't know if I can describe it better here, but it was one of those days where I was getting a bunch of stuff done. But it was mostly because there were some big things that I didn't want to get into, but I felt I needed to, you know, one of those, like, I was getting. You know, I called some family members I need to call. I got my haircut. I did all these things, and then I was, like, down to, like, the last two things on my list, which were start this big project that I find intimidating and finally get this colonoscopy thing taken care of. And I went with the TBTL project. I'll make the colonoscopy tomorrow's to do list.

[Luke Burbank]

If the colonoscopy. If we can use it as a leverage to get you to do all of your TBTL jobs.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right. Fine.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm fine with that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

But that's terrible medical.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, that's good. That's no good.

[Luke Burbank]

All right. Okay. That's gonna do it for today's episode, but we are going to be right back here. If I can walk from my house to the studio without getting blown down the road like a tumbleweed, and that remains a real danger. It is so windy out here. If I can get back to the studio tomorrow, we're gonna bring you another episode of tbtl, so please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Tuesday. Take care of yourselves, stay dry, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Andrew Walsh]

And good luck to all.

[Luke Burbank]

I hope you're not taking that aluminum box seriously. Power out.