#4457 Trash Decisions

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL Episode #4457 – "Trash Decisions"

Release Date: May 1, 2025
Hosts: Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh

In episode #4457 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live, hosts Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh delve into a myriad of topics ranging from podcast archival challenges to personal mishaps with garbage collection and wind-up watches. The episode is a blend of humor, candid conversations, and heartfelt listener interactions, encapsulating the essence of the daily show hosted by these longtime friends.

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1. Podcast Archival Adventures

[03:54 – 11:37]
Andrew Walsh kicks off the episode by discussing the ongoing process of transferring the podcast's extensive archive to a new system. This monumental task spans over 15 years of TBTL episodes, during which a few became elusive.

• Andrew: “When we transferred that over to a new system… there were certain stray episodes that sort of got lost in the shuffle.”

Luke and Andrew explore the mystery behind two episodes that were intentionally omitted from the feed, dating back to their early days at City Theater in Seattle. Andrew humorously likens his role in retrieving these episodes to a shepherd bringing his flock together, though with a playful twist on betrayal.

• Andrew: “Lee had pointed out some of the missing episodes and had shared some with me in case I needed them. Unfortunately, Lee is going to betray me in the garden.”

The conversation touches on the challenges of monetizing early episodes and the misconceptions about the podcast’s listener statistics.

• Luke: “Or maybe they were secret shows… They taught me that we should not have a paywall.”

The duo reflects on the unrealistic download numbers they were initially told and the lessons learned about authentically engaging their audience without imposing financial barriers.

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2. Garbage Collection Woes

[21:00 – 33:00]
Andrew shifts the discussion to his prolonged frustrations with garbage collection services. Moving from a problematic apartment in Seattle, where their bins were frequently skipped and extra fees mysteriously appeared, to a new house aimed to be free from such hassles, Andrew shares his meticulous approach to waste management.

• Andrew: “I didn't realize that to buy this watch and to wear this watch is a certain commitment. It's a commitment to winding it, probably setting the time most days.”

He recounts receiving a reprimanding note from a garbage collector about improperly bagging dust and sawdust, leading him to create a thoughtful apology gesture—a Jersey Mike’s gift card attached to his bin.

• Andrew: “I wrote for the collector… and then I was like, can you picture that? It was very, very bright outside.”

Luke humorously imagines the scenario of the gift card reaching the intended collector amidst the daily grind.

• Luke: “We need a blink cam on this… It will be unclear in the short term if it got to the same person who picked it up.”

The conversation humorously explores the balance between making amends and avoiding awkward encounters with the garbage collector, highlighting Andrew's genuine desire to maintain a positive relationship despite past grievances.

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3. The Wind-Up Watch Fiasco

[17:41 – 25:36]
In a light-hearted detour, Luke shares his misadventure with a new wind-up watch from Sky Dance Watches. Unbeknownst to him, the watch requires daily winding to maintain accurate time, leading to frustration when it began running slow.

• Luke: “It never even occurred to me that when you have a watch that you have to wind, you wind it every day.”

Andrew offers practical advice on integrating the winding process into daily routines, suggesting it could become a habitual task rather than a tedious chore.

• Andrew: “You just get in the habit of… giving it four or five little winds while you're in a meeting or something like that.”

The banter evolves into a deeper reflection on personal responsibility and the importance of attention to detail, even in seemingly minor aspects of daily life.

• Luke: “I am gonna stick with podcasting, and it’s gonna be because of these dazzling donors, Andrew.”

This segment underscores the hosts' ability to intertwine personal anecdotes with broader life lessons, all while maintaining their signature humor.

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4. Listener Shoutouts and Personal Stories

[40:02 – 71:09]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to heartfelt and humorous listener messages. From birthdays to personal milestones, Luke and Andrew read and respond to various shoutouts, creating a sense of community and engagement with their audience.

• Andrew: “Happy Birthday May Bear Slay Bestie.”

• Luke: “Happy blurs to everybody. What a nice day to have a blurs day.”

The hosts share nostalgic stories about past listeners, their interactions, and the impact TBTL has had on their lives. They also touch upon the challenges and joys of maintaining long-term relationships with listeners, emphasizing the podcast’s role in their personal journeys.

• Luke: “Each one of these words is fearfully and wonderfully made. That's right. We're getting very biblical on the show for some reason these days.”

This segment not only highlights the hosts' genuine appreciation for their audience but also reinforces the community-centric nature of TBTL.

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5. Closing Reflections and Future Outlook

[71:09 – End]
As the episode winds down, Luke reflects on the day's beautiful weather and muses about taking up garbage collecting or being a mail carrier for a day. These whimsical thoughts serve as a playful end to a day filled with earnest discussions and light-hearted banter.

• Luke: “I'm gonna stick with podcasting, and it’s gonna be because of these dazzling donors, Andrew.”

The hosts remind listeners of upcoming episodes and express gratitude for continued support, leaving the audience with a comforting and optimistic outlook.

• Andrew: “You can be nothing number one. We have a healthy serving of birthday wishes today, Luke.”

The episode concludes with a blend of humor, gratitude, and anticipation for future content, embodying the spirit of TBTL as a daily sanctuary of friendship and shared experiences.

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Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Walsh [03:54]: “It's like I'm kind of the shepherd here, Luke. I mean, I don't think I have a God complex, but I'm kind of like Jesus.”

• Luke Burbank [21:00]: “I am gonna stick with podcasting, and it’s gonna be because of these dazzling donors, Andrew.”

• Andrew Walsh [44:33]: “So I thought it was just sort of a way of nice little friendly.”

• Luke Burbank [55:30]: “So it's like barrette. So it's going to be the meh sound twice and then this. The zh.”

• Andrew Walsh [65:30]: “Another thought the other day…”

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Conclusion:

Episode #4457 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live is a tapestry of the hosts' personal anecdotes, shared frustrations, and joyful interactions with listeners. Luke and Andrew navigate through topics with ease, blending humor with sincerity, and reinforcing the podcast's commitment to fostering a supportive and engaging community. Whether discussing the nitty-gritty of garbage collection or the quirks of wind-up watches, their camaraderie shines through, making this episode a memorable addition to their daily show repertoire.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Hello, this is Kristen from Ontario from Thunder Bay. Anyway, I was calling because I've been sick this week and I've been losing my voice, sort of. But then I realized I sound like the chicken lady. So I wanted to call and just wish you all no mountain too tall. Good luck to all and just check to say, you know, I love life and you want some eggs tbtl, don't you?

[Andrew Walsh]

Latte sipping leeches.

[Luke Burbank]

I've seen enough of these Hollywood super hunks.

[Andrew Walsh]

We need a dumpy, unappealing loser.

[Luke Burbank]

An everyman. Don't take this the wrong way, but you've just been kind of hanging around a lot lately, which isn't a bad thing, but it's also not a good thing. I feel like we're just like in.

[Andrew Walsh]

That tired mode where you're delirious and.

[Luke Burbank]

You'Re laughing at silly things. Well, you have found my flabbergast button and guess what? You've pressed it. The comedy factor speaks for itself. It's just painfully obvious. It's an unfulfilled prophecy. It just has to be played out. My door is always open.

[Andrew Walsh]

Except when it's closed.

[Luke Burbank]

But you can open it when it's closed. Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of tvtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

[Andrew Walsh]

The vibes will be the illest and.

[Luke Burbank]

The jams narra Dick My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. This whole conversation bothers me, coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia. Happy May Day, everyone. It is an absolutely beautiful day here. It might touch 80 degrees.

[Andrew Walsh]

I feel warm and I'm levitating.

[Luke Burbank]

Might be too warm maybe. It's going to be so warm you want to get inside. You want to beat the heat and come down to the Reser center for the Arts in Beaverton, Oregon, where we're doing livewire tonight at 7:30. Hope to see some of you there. Hope that all of you will be joining us. It would be weird if you weren't, and yet somehow you were hearing this. Hope you can all join us for this. This is episode 4557 in a collector series, Let the fun begin. This is a podcast that's entering Year Whatever we're on. I don't know if we're on year 18 or what, but it's based on a a few simple principles. You know, my frustrating travel interactions and my friend Andrew's concerns about his garbage can. Garbage all I've been thinking about all week is garbage. I mean, I just can't stop thinking about it. And we actually have an unfolding situation right now involving his garbage can and a gift certificate that is currently strapped to it. This is all unfolding as we're doing the show. So this is some, you know, this is Chekhov's gift certificate and you're gonna hear about it. Plus it's a Thursday, AKA blursday, so we'll do the blursday messages. Oh, and of course we'll welcome this guy to the show. Longest running cobra of the program. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships and his concerns about waste management. Mr. Hidden Rally Ranch party in my mouth. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Andrew Walsh]

There would never be a Hidden Valley Ranch Party in my mouth that would never cross.

[Luke Burbank]

These beautiful people can change.

[Andrew Walsh]

That is true. There's a lot of food I eat now that I never used to eat. The idea of me ever eating ranch dressing or anything ranch flavored though, I just don't think I'll ever evolve that much.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm worried to believe. I'm worried the baby thinks people can't change. I'm worried the baby. The baby knows you used to be a total pos.

[Andrew Walsh]

Used to be a total pos. Hey, before we get into my garbage situation, I told you I wanna actually hit on something. Cause I made a decision yesterday. I made an executive decision yesterday without checking with you. And it's related to.

[Luke Burbank]

I canceled our TBTB meeting. So I've lost the right to be upset about executive decisions that are made in my absence.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. What I should say is John and I had a very top level, productive, sissy sweet esque meeting.

[Luke Burbank]

Important meeting.

[Andrew Walsh]

Important meeting. No, I told you before the show, and I actually mentioned this on a previous actually on the air, that when we transferred a whole bunch of our archives or our entire archive going back 15 years now or 18 years or whatever it is, like you said at the top of the show, when we transferred that over to a new system when we started our own business three years ago, there were certain kind of stray episodes that sort of got lost in the shuffle. And there were some people who would hit me up every now and then like, hey, this episode's missing. Or that one. But at the time we were just so overwhelmed with the, you know, massive project of going independent and starting our own company. I just didn't have time to be.

[Luke Burbank]

Trying to get Lunchbones out of my parents basement right A lot going on.

[Andrew Walsh]

Trying to get those. Those wooden pallets to your mom. By the way, you told me that you got pallets of bricks the other day. Did those pallets go home with your dad? The actual pallets themselves?

[Luke Burbank]

No, the pallets are still my. Nobody loves a good free pallet like Susie Burbank because, of course, she doesn't have to process it or break it down. Usually what Walt does is he'll break it down, turn it into firewood, or sometimes he'll make something out of it, but that's still kind of a hassle. So. No, I've got the cinder. Block. Showed up on a couple of pallets. They're both here. But I am actually going to use. I'm going to use them. I'm not going to make anything out of them, but they're just. When you're on acreage like I am, they're just a handy thing that you can put other things on if you don't want those other things to be in contact with the ground.

[Andrew Walsh]

I actually needed a palette, literally, I.

[Luke Burbank]

Guess, the point of a pallet.

[Andrew Walsh]

I needed a pallet the other day because I've been working on the hedges already, and I have a lot of leaves that come off of these. I always say boxwood, but I think that's wrong. Hedges that we have. I fill up these, you know, like the paper. This very strong, tall paper.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yard waste bags you get at Home Depot, and then you can kind of take them to the transfer station or have them picked up or whatever. Well, this project just fills up, just dozens of these bags. And right now I got about six of them in the garage. And when they sit there for any length of time, they start to decompose a little bit. The leaves start to decompose in the bags because they're so green when I trim them. And they'll get kind of wet on the bottom and leave st on the garage floor. Not that I care about the garage floor, but it's just like this rotting process. And I thought, boy, if I had a pallet, that would be perfect. I could put these bags up on a pallet. It would let some air get underneath the bags. It wouldn't be so bad. But I'm telling you, man, when I think of pallets now, I think of Susie B. Because you told me that she loves pallets. She sees a pallet, she says, can I keep the pallet? There's good firewood in there. And I think that will follow me around the rest of my life. I will Always think of.

[Luke Burbank]

And if you see one on the side of the road, you might grab it and then just, you know, put it out behind your garage and save it for when my mom's in town.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly right.

[Luke Burbank]

We're all scavenging pallets for my 72 or 3 year old mother. I should really know how old my parents are.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can I get your parents to renew their marriage vows so that I can give a pallet to your mom as a. I mean that is wedding gift.

[Luke Burbank]

That is for the. For the 50th. I think it's the pallet anniversary.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, that's what I hear. Hey, listen, I'm sorry to get off track here. I just wanted to say yesterday I spent a great deal of time going through the TBT archives and adding a whole bunch of shows from a hard drive I have that had just gone missing for various reasons. Like in the transfer. They were just stray. It's almost biblical. You know what I mean? It was like I'm kind of the. I'm kind of the shepherd here, Luke. I mean, I don't think I have a God complex, but I'm kind of like Jesus. And I was kind of bringing the flock back together with the help of some disciples. And one of those disciples is listener Lee, who helped identify who. Unfortunately, Lee is going to betray me in the garden. Unfortunately.

[Luke Burbank]

Before the crows thrice.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's exactly right. But. But Lee had pointed out some of the missing episodes and had shared some with me in case I needed them. For the most part, we had all of the missing episodes on a hard drive except for two. And this is where I say I made an executive decision. The two episodes that were not in the feed, there were only promos for these episodes in the feed. Can you imagine what I'm talking about here? Go way, way back. Go almost as far back as you can remember for tbtl. Why two episodes would purposely not be in the feed? Okay, I didn't mean why this a quiz? I don't know why I'm putting you on the spot. No, no, no.

[Luke Burbank]

But. But this is an interesting thought experiment. So we. We left the. These were intentionally not included in the feed. They might. Were they secret shows? Were they. Were they shows that you. That were at a certain donor level at some point?

[Andrew Walsh]

That's a really good point. You know, you and I did make some secret shows way back in the day, and this is not them. This predates me. I'll tell you. It was the two shows that you did at City Theater.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I. Okay. Well, those Were. So those weren't secret shows, but they were behind a paywall. And what they taught me was a very important lesson, Andrew. We should not have a paywall because.

[Andrew Walsh]

This was 2010, right? According to the dates that I can't yesterday, these were like July of 2010. So you're somewhat recently sort of kicked out of the nest of Cairo and you're trying to figure out how to monetize this thing. And you're like, well, we did these two. Just really start. You did two star studded shows in Columbia City here in Seattle, two nights in a row. And I think they're each like two hours long. And I. And you had promos in the feed saying, hey, you know, we had great live shows. And if you want to hear them, I think. I don't know, how did you handle the monetization? You say, go to TBT Net and listen to them there. With the. With what, you charge $5 or something?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't even think it was $5. I think it might have been like $1. Because you have to remember at this time, the. Whatever the system was for measuring podcast downloads, it turns out, was pretty misleading. So we were getting, in the early days of TBTL not being a radio show anymore, just being a thing we were doing from my house, possibly being held up by a stick. Like we were hearing numbers.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did you catch that stick that held you up?

[Luke Burbank]

Sorry, guys. We were being told like, oh, these episodes are getting 400,000 downloads an episode or 500. There were certain ones that they were like, this got a million downloads. Which it was. It was. It was really quite something because it was like. I was like, I just. I think I know most of the listeners and there's. It. It would be so shocking. But of course, you know, you want to believe something like that because it's. It's also kind of amazing. Like, are we one of the most important media projects happening in America today.

[Andrew Walsh]

In American history, maybe even if we're.

[Luke Burbank]

Getting a million downloads on certain episodes. I mean, we had months where we were being told like our monthly download was 10 million or something. So it was. And of course, that was all totally and completely false. I think we probably had about the same number of listeners then as we have now, which is in the neighborhood of a handful of thousands of folks. And some people listen every day, some people come pop in and pop out throughout the month. But at the time, my thought was, well, listen, we put a lot of work into these special live shows. They were, you know, they involved for us Some pretty big celebrities and also just kind of like it was a big production and wouldn't it be nice if we. If out of 400,000 people. Again, I don't, I'm trying to remember back to if I really thought, like, I don't know what my expectations were, but the sort of back of the napkin math was if you're getting 400,000 people listening to every show that's free. What if you had 100,000 people who are willing to pay $1?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean that'd just be completely and totally life changing. And I think it was 400 people if that. And I remember because what happened was.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was that covered, basically what I drank in the green room that night and Sir.

[Luke Burbank]

Mix a lot nachos.

[Andrew Walsh]

And the nachos.

[Luke Burbank]

You know. Yeah. So it was like. And I think that was. I think there was probably a few things going on. First of all, we just even let's say that that show had been free, the realistic number of downloads would have been in the thousands. In the low thousands, not in the hundreds of thousands. Just. Just on a normal show. Then also if you make someone get there. This is before the days, and I don't remember what the mechanism we used was, but this was before the days where you've got Apple pay and all your stuff is integrated and you can just. It's sort of frictionless. It was frictionful. I'm sure. I'm sure you had to like punch in your credit card information to hit play on something. The other thing I hadn't considered was most of the people who probably bought the show had went. They. They went to the show. Yeah, it was the same group of people who went to one of the shows or both of the shows were probably the people on Monday morning, they're like, oh, I want to hear how that show was. And then they were like, oh, but I got to pay again. I already bought a ticket. I'll skip that. So it was not particularly well conceived on my part. But it's funny. Here's what I'd like to say, Andrew. I, as the person who was then the only person in charge of the TBTL empire, I officially authorized you to very much make this release. The Snyder cut.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, they've already been released. They were released as of last night. Excellent.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I love it. I almost wanna hear them. Not that bad.

[Andrew Walsh]

I took down the promos and replaced them with the full shows and we did not have the full shows in our archives. Nice. Release the Kraken listeners.

[Luke Burbank]

I believe we did we might have even actually released the Kraken that night. I think we did. I think we. I think the second show or one of the shows culminated in a surprise wedding.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. I think that's the second show. That was the one I was at.

[Luke Burbank]

Drew McFris.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. And it was before I knew Drew. I was also going to say. And I don't need to extend that part of the conversation, I guess as a listener and you and I have talked about this a lot. And I should be careful here because when you and I do live. TBTLs to this day, we still put them in the podcast feed because usually, first of all, we're traveling for those. We're burnt out. We need a Monday show.

[Luke Burbank]

We've also learned there's no money in selling.

[Andrew Walsh]

There's no money in selling them. But for the shows, I love. And this goes back to me even being a public radio producer, just listening to literally just sort of news programming like Talk of the Nation. I remember Talk of the Nation would go on the road sometimes. I'd be like, ray, I like you in the studio.

[Luke Burbank]

I saw Talk of the Nation live in Seattle. Did you? I think I must have been a. I was probably an intern at kuow and I thought it was the biggest Hollywood production I'd ever seen in my life. The name of the director, I can't believe I'm forgetting her name now. Cause I worked with her later on. Her first name was Devin and I forget her last name, but she was directing the show.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

And I think this was maybe still the Ray Suarez years and, and, or yeah, maybe we may have. We may have moved into like Neil Conan territory or something.

[Andrew Walsh]

Anyway, all that is Juan Williams territory, I think. Wasn't Neil first?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah, okay, sorry.

[Andrew Walsh]

We do not. Was it Ray then? Then Neil. Okay, sorry.

[Luke Burbank]

But I just remember sitting in the audience and being like the electricity, to use your word, the electricity that coursed through me as like a 20 year old watching, like hearing the theme of Talk of the Nation. And then like the director, like doing some kind of hand. Even though a side note, this was not. This was purely audio. This was not visual, but still doing kind of some hand directions of like, this is gonna go out and then it's this and now we're cueing people and stuff. I just was like. I was like, this is glitz and glamour of a level that I will never, ever experience. And I miss that time in my life. I miss that version of me of.

[Andrew Walsh]

Being excited and like, about anything. I actually, I kind of Miss directing live broadcasts, even in the studio. That it was something fun. That was a huge part of my public radio career coming up. I. And I wouldn't diminish the experience of going to a live show. I mean, we hopefully will have more live shows in our future that people will attend and hopefully people will listen to the podcast when we put them up. But for my own listening pleasure, like, when I like a show that is a studio show that has a certain energy, I'm less inclined usually to listen to a live version of it. So putting the live show behind a paywall, even though it had tons of star power, it just might not have been what people connected with TBTL over. You know what I mean? To, like, pay extra for it. Like, by the way, I'm interested in. I just looked up the hosts of Talk of the Nation. You're absolutely right about the order. What? One thing I did not realize was John Hockenberry was the first host. Did you know that?

[Luke Burbank]

I think I had buried that somewhere in my memory banks also, if I remember right, there was a sustained period time where Ira Glass was the host. I don't know if he was ever the permanent host, but he did it for like a week.

[Andrew Walsh]

Bank, right?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, no, like, I thought it was like months.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, maybe. Oh, I thought he had done a week. I didn't know he had done months. I do remember him talking about it. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

But, yeah, that, that show, that was a. That was a special time. In fact, you know, I was, I'm was reading this book for Livewire, which we're gonna be talking about tonight with the journalist Omar Al Akkad. He's got this book out called Someday Everyone Will have always Been against this. It's about Gaza. And I was doing some reading on him, and then I was. I ended up in one of those, like, kind of Wikipedia sort of rabbit holes about, about Iraq and, and different things that happened there. And then I somehow ended up on Neil Conan's Wikipedia page and I had completely forgotten. Oh, you know what it was. I was. There was another journalist who I was researching who had been detained by, like, I don't know who, which faction of the, of the army it was, Iraqi army, or if it was a militia or whatever. But Neil Conan of NPR and this other journalist, Charles Phillips maybe from the New York Times, had been held basically captive by the Iraqi army for like a week at some point. And I was like, I didn't. I would have given. I would have, I would have given Neil Conan a, like, a wider berth When I'd be like seeing him in the cafeteria at NPR if I knew that. That's a scary situation.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Let's just say that my, my stint in journalism did not take me that close to the action. But speaking of action, my friend.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm noticing something on your wrist and it would seem to be a wind up watch from what was the company again?

[Luke Burbank]

It's called. I don't know if I want to give them. I don't.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, you've said it enough.

[Luke Burbank]

I've said it enough. It's just a company from the Internet that, that sells these watches and I have.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's called Sky Dance Watches.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. That's why I can't talk about it because they need to merge with CBS so I can keep getting paid.

[Andrew Walsh]

But you merged that band right back onto the watch.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, it's saying on here sort of, but the problem is it's very susceptible to. So I was trying to describe this to you yesterday, Andrew, and in something that will in no way help the listeners but will maybe make this a little more clear to you. The issue I'm holding this up to the camera now is these little metal parts.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

They actually, if they are loosened, if these screws are loosened, these things will just kind of like, they'll just kind of twist around, they'll pivot.

[Andrew Walsh]

These are little metal arms on the.

[Luke Burbank]

Watch itself and that's how you get them in. That's how you get this watch band into the band.

[Andrew Walsh]

I've never seen that design before.

[Luke Burbank]

I haven't either watch.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's a good looking band.

[Luke Burbank]

I get, it's all good as long as this thing doesn't come loose again. But it already has once and, and therefore the band came off. The other thing that I'm, I'm feeling a combination of feelings today about this watch, Andrew, and they are. It's, it's kind of, it's, it's, it's a slight amount of regret, but it's also just regret about how unserious of a person I am in the world. Because like as I was telling you about this yesterday live on air, you're like, oh, oh, it's a windup. And I was like, yeah, yeah, it is. It had never occurred to me until I got the email from the watch people. Basically what happened was I bought this watch. I was wearing it for a while, it seemed great. Then I took it off and I noticed, man, it's really running slow. And that's because it's, you're supposed to wind it Every day. It never even occurred to me that when you have a watch that you have to wind, you wind it every day.

[Andrew Walsh]

So you. So it is working now? That was my big question. So, like it's keeping time. I mean, it looks sharp as hell. And here's what happened. Time.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, not as of this morning, because it had been sitting on my kitchen counter. Because this is the pro. This is the thing. What I didn't realize, what I had given no thought to because I am an unserious person and I do things hastily, is it did not occur to me that to buy this watch and to wear this watch is a, it's a certain commitment. It's a commitment to winding it, probably setting the time most days. Because when it just sits still overnight, it gets out of time or wearing it to sleep or putting it on one of those things, those perpetual motion machines you were telling me about. It's not like, you know, the thing with my Apple watch is. My Apple watch is the absolute height of convenience.

[Andrew Walsh]

You don't have to wind that.

[Luke Burbank]

You don't have to wind it. It's the complete opposite. And because of that, I found it to be a little less interesting, it's a little less aesthetically pleasing to me. And I just thought maybe I'll become a, you know, a regular watch guy. But I did not even do the simple amount of research between a wind up watch and a battery or as you pointed out, crystal watch. And so I'm actually quartz. Quartz watch. Excuse me. And I. So I'm just like kind of mad at myself that I'm not even regretting. Like it's fine to me that this is what I have to do now with this watch. Like if, if, if this takes 15 seconds out of my morning and it makes this thing run and keep nice time all day and everything, then it's totally fine. In fact, I sort of. There are certain things that I kind of like the intentional process of the intentionality of it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, definitely.

[Luke Burbank]

So, so, but just the fact that I am so not detail oriented with things in my life like this where I just, I go, I don't know, it's a watch, I got it on the Internet. And then it's like, this watch sucks. And then they're like, are you winding it enough? And I'm like, yeah, as you know.

[Andrew Walsh]

You slowly move your wrist under the.

[Luke Burbank]

Table, it's checks, notes. Is it a wind up watch?

[Andrew Walsh]

But okay, that's all in the past. Listen, so you have a little, you're a little cringy about your experience with this leading up to this point. But as you feel like I have.

[Luke Burbank]

To do this with my wrist all.

[Andrew Walsh]

Day long, feel it. By the way, when you do that, do you sort of feel a little mechanism as you sort of like kind of sway? You're kind of doing that thing that I used to do when I had kind of a self winding watch. I really love the feel of like sort of switching my wrist back and forth and sort of feeling something going back and forth in there as well.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. And also Andrew, look at this again. Golly, are we ever leaving the listeners in the dust today? You can just see it's got one of those open backs.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh yeah. Okay. You can sort of see. Oh, I love that you can see.

[Luke Burbank]

The mechanism as it self winds. That's self winding or whatever you want to call it.

[Andrew Walsh]

So hey, can I be serious about something here? That responding you like to buy this watch.

[Luke Burbank]

You just said $200 cash.

[Andrew Walsh]

Didn't you say you bought it for 100 and then you broke it?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, but I'm the middleman, right? Get my beak wet.

[Andrew Walsh]

Several serious things here. The feeling of sort of cringing about your behavior and regret. That is something. Regret over something you said or did, whether it's small or big. I've told you this before. Obviously I'm racked with that kind of stuff throughout my life in a pretty major way. And the only thing I can do to myself in the moment is say there's nothing I can do about that now that was public to do whatever degree it was public. Sometimes I'm mad at myself.

[Luke Burbank]

Like commenting on Instagram about a Steven Spielberg graduation.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, there are things you could do about that, but instead you just set fire and walked away. But like, like when it's something that I truly can't redo, even if it's a reaction I had with a stranger or whatever. Like it doesn't. Even if it can't be tied back to me. But I find myself carrying around this really bad feeling or just embarrassing feeling or cringy feeling. The only thing I can say to myself is there's nothing I can do about that. Let's move forward. The best thing to do is say don't do that again. Take a lesson from that if you can. Usually that lesson is just like, try not to react that way next time. Try not to say that thing next time. Try not to. You know, and you know, that kind of gets me through the moment. That's kind of a serious point. But also so if you can Sort of just let go of however you feel about the Luke who bought the watch mistaken about how it works. Try to let that go to the best that you can. But now, looking forward, you have a really cool watch. And I'm jealous because I love a watch that you wind and like, like we've been describing it as self winding because you wear it on your wrist and it has that perpetual motion sort of thingy in it. But also I know you're not as fidgety as me, but like there are like, if you just get in the habit of. Throughout the day when you're thinking about something, you just like kind of wind it. You don't have to like let it go all the way down and then wind it in the morning just like sort of. You find yourself sort of like, you know, like just kind of wind it. Give it four or five little wines while you're in a meeting or something like that. It can become almost like a, like not a fixation but something to do with your hands that I think you could actually really get into that. I did.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I think I can see. I can see. I mean the funny part is if you. I'm also trying to figure out how to wind it, in fact, because I think that there's like. This is so boring. I think that there's a middle kind of gear, if you will. There's on the crown, like there's, there's all the way out, which is like you're moving the like hour hand.

[Andrew Walsh]

You're setting it.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, you're setting it. Then there's all the way in, which is like it's, it's, it's set for good. And then there's like something in between where you're just kind of going to.

[Andrew Walsh]

Pull it out halfway to wind it.

[Luke Burbank]

I, maybe I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm with you. I mean the irony of all this is in a different version of my life, I could have come on the show and said, andrew, I have decided because I saw Jon Hamm wearing a hand wind watch in a movie that now my new thing is I'm going to get a watch that you have to wind by hand. Like so, yeah, I've basically arrived at a part of the story that I might have ended up at on my own. And you're right, I need to just kind of like I need to just, just, just see what I can get out of this. Now meanwhile, I do. Now, apparently these people from the watch company are about to send me some paperwork which Allows me to send this watch back and get the exact same watch sent to me. I guess I'm just going to ignore that paperwork. I'm going to assume this is user error. And the only other thing I'll say about this.

[Andrew Walsh]

And they're hoping you'll ignore that paperwork too.

[Luke Burbank]

By the way, they also misused as per. This is like the second time. No, again. Did I, did they. Did they.

[Andrew Walsh]

They.

[Luke Burbank]

They really love as per.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, a lot of people do. What are you going to.

[Luke Burbank]

Because I brought that up on the first email and then let me see if I can find it might be. Oh, here we go. So now here's the response. After I said to them, I have wound it sufficiently. Yeah. They said basically, it doesn't matter. They basically are saying, we're going to send you something. But they started as per. Must be like, that must be boilerplate for them because I've gotten two emails from them that say, as per, I'm also.

[Andrew Walsh]

Or it's this person. And I mean, listen, I, I always get sort of pilloried by listeners who are like Andrew, so pedantic. Like, words change. If we know it as per means, then we know it as per means. Like, it's. It's fine. I also get pilloried by people who like, also critique words that we misuse too. So you really kind of get it from both ends. I'm a real martyr here is my point. But all of that is to say I do believe that I'm just sort of. I'm anticipating the conversation I'm going to see online about as per. And people defending it. It's like, do what you want to do. I just believe that that's a little bit redundant. As I said earlier, or per. Our earlier conversation is good. You don't need to say as per our earlier conversation.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, per my statements the other day about, about how I was a little touchy with them and also the fact that this is probably my fault. I think what I'm going to do is. Yeah. When the, when the replacement paperwork shows up, I'm just. Unless this thing continues to be an issue and I'm now doing everything the right way, I'll probably just. We'll see how this goes and it'll be a. Like you said, it'll be a life lesson for me that I can just, Just remember to be a little more careful, double check the fine print on things going forward. Speaking of double checking the fine print, Andrew, you're talking about being pilloried. You were kindly. You were Gently pilloried by your garbage people. The people who take away the garbage at your house. I was thinking about this. Okay. You and I were texting with a friend of ours about this topic, a friend who listens to the show. And. And they were saying kind of like this is a little snowflakey of the Seattle. I don't know what the name of the agency is.

[Andrew Walsh]

You really cleaned that up.

[Luke Burbank]

The city of Seattle.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, you really cleaned up what our friend said. The language was a little salty in there. In their description of how well the Seattle area garbage collectors handle things.

[Luke Burbank]

Well. And I think I probably. Well, first of all, I'm still stinging from when the garbage person out here wrote on my garbage can that it was too close to my neighbors. That's just a scarlet letter that lives like, literally. I was getting my garbage this morning and it's. But all that is to say, I think I tend to. You took this very well. This note that was. This note that was basically left for you that said, like, please don't throw fine materials like dust and things and that into the garbage can because it gets in our eyes. And I have to say, honestly, that does. That does. Does not scan with the Gorman Thomas esque. There we go, we'll just do it again. Style of, you know, folks that I would imagine are doing the garbage in a town. All that is to say, I did think it was interesting that you are the most careful person around this stuff that I know. And yet you have found yourself, whether it's being charged extra for something sticking out, whether it's the stuff at your old house where they skipped you but then wouldn't admit it. Like, I. Amazing to me how much drama there is around. I mean, legitimate. You're not making this up. Like, you're the only person I've ever heard of forgetting a note saying, don't put dust in your garbage can. It's like you're so careful about it. The irony of this is not lost on me.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, yes and no. So first of all, the garbage thing has not been my entire life. The garbage thing really did start in my last apartment. And because of that, we lived in a place where the garbage collectors would often skip our pickup spot because we were basically the only spot on this very busy, one way, two lane, like area that was mostly for commerce or whatever. I'm blanking on the word that you would call that kind of zoning, but you know what I mean. It was mostly like stores and businesses and then this one weird little apartment. So they didn't have many other bins to pick up on our street, so they would just pass us all the time. And I think that that. And that does not happen to me in the new house here, but it put me on full alert of.

[Luke Burbank]

And dog poop.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that too. I don't like bringing in my bins and finding somebody's dog poop in there. Although I don't remember ever talking about that even before old apartment. I don't think any of these issues affected me. Like I literally don't. Well, a lot of places I live probably had dumpsters or something. I have no idea what our garbage situation was in la. Like I just. It just didn't really enter my mind much until that last apartment we had. And then. And the thing that really corked me off about that, if that's a expression I can use on a family friendly podcast. We don't have sluggers updates.

[Luke Burbank]

Think about how much worse it would sound if we bleeped cork.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right, exactly. But the thing that really upset me about that wasn't just them skipping our pickup, but then clearly lying about it because I would call the city and the city would say, oh, they put in the notes that your bins weren't out there. And then they would reprimand me and tell me the rules. The bins have to be out there before 6am and I would be like, friendo, the bins are out there in the evening and well before 6am and so that's what started me documenting this and that's what really galled me or corked me off as you would say on a dirty Rogan esque podcast.

[Luke Burbank]

We're just trying to get more of those young persuadable voters.

[Andrew Walsh]

Andrew, by saying corked off as many times as possible. But it was like the being lied to is what really bummed me out and upset me. So then I was like, okay, well then I'll get evidence. And then we come over here. We have never been skipped. I don't believe. Or maybe once, but they came and they fixed it. It was an accident, but they were. Suddenly I started one day I was looking at my bill and I saw there was an extra collection fee for extra garbage which we did not put out there. Then that's when I started looking carefully at the bill. It's kind of buried in the bill and the bill is not the same. It's not the same total every time because it's also like sewage is in there as well. So I was like, wait a second. And I told A lot of people about this and they started looking at their bills. They're like, I have extra garbage collection fees on my bill too. And so I started to feel like it was a bit of a scam. And so again, that's where I sort of took it, like, sort of personally. And that's why I am continue to be, like, sort of obsessed with and overly careful with my garbage. Having said that, you saying that this is the first time you've heard somebody get dinged for putting, like, dust in the bin. I would again point to our friend.

[Luke Burbank]

Great Kansas song who put, who so.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is Gently Pilloried, by the way. I'm a little distracted here because I'm trying to buy that domain gently Pilloried from my sub DOM site that I have. I mentioned that.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I didn't. I didn't know you were going to go on air with that, but okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, well, we'll talk about it more maybe tomorrow if we have time. But it's about. It's about Domino's Pizzas, Subway sandwiches. That would be perfect. The DOM sub special if you get a Subway sandwich at Domino's. All right. Anyway, but I would, you know, I mentioned to you a couple of times that our friend got kind of reprimanded on his garbage cans for putting a bunch of sawdust in his. Oh, right, I forgot about that. So I kind of had that in the back of my head. And so a couple of weeks ago, I guess it was last week when I. I sort of mindlessly emptied a vacuum, a shop vac, the contents of a shop vac into my bin without bagging it up. And it was a very dusty, you know, whatever was in there, very dusty situation. And so then I did get this note from the collector who was kind of like, please bag up construction debris. It gets in our eyes. I'm like, God damn. And I just, I could really picture that, you know, that's fair. And so I felt bad about that. Listeners probably know everything up until this point. And I told you, I felt so bad that what I wanted to do was put a gift card on my garbage bin for the collector. I called the city and they said, yeah, you have the same pickup person every week. So if you wanted to leave them a little, you know, apology note or thank you note or whatever, you could just put that right on the bin. And I was like, I don't know, like, if I put something in my bin, will it really stay there for more than 30 minutes before somebody just snatches it? I'm not Exactly. Sure. But I told you I wanted to put a little note saying, hey, sorry about all that dust. And also, here's like, a gift card for something. And I was trying. I was really struggling as to what that gift card should be. I didn't want it to be Amazon or Starbucks or companies that I don't mess with anymore. I wanted.

[Luke Burbank]

Martin, I got you a Halliburton gift card.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love that. Oh, man. I want to riff on this, but I'm too dumb. What was the Raytheon? What was the. It was black something. Black something that we.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, the security detail. Blackwater.

[Andrew Walsh]

Blackwater Security.

[Luke Burbank]

I got you a Blackwater Security gift certificate.

[Andrew Walsh]

No. So anyway, I told you, like, I was kind of struggling coming up with something. I was like, a coffee shop would be nice, but it's very specific. If it's not a chain, what would be? Something that would be sort of universally usable to somebody who drives a truck. And I have no idea where this person lives. But also isn't, like, sort of like not an owner. It shouldn't feel onerous to use. But also not completely generic, like, just a $20 bill, which just sort of seems weird to me in this day and age. And so I had landed on ihop because there's an IHOP near us and it's also a chain. And I'm like, I don't know. You get a 20, 25 gift certificate. $25 gift certificate to IHOP that's, like, usable. But I still. It didn't seem right to me because it still means, like, well, if you're not usually in the habit of going to that particular chain restaurant. Right. Then you got to, like, kind of make a plan for it. And that's not going to cover your meal anyway. Really? Because it's kind of expensive now.

[Luke Burbank]

Not with the Rudy Tutti Fresh and tariffs.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. Those. Those strawberries are more expensive than ever. And so I was still leaning towards that. I almost went in there the other day to buy one, but then I was like, I think we can come up with a better idea here. I got a lot of suggestions from listeners. One that I really liked, but I couldn't make work was, what about, like, a gift card to, like a. An a.m. p.m. Or a 711 or like, kind of a, you know, somebody whose job is driving around.

[Luke Burbank]

What about a cameo from Tungus?

[Andrew Walsh]

What about a cameo from Toomgus? Was an idea that you'd sent me as well.

[Luke Burbank]

I would order one of those.

[Andrew Walsh]

The Dancing Bear from the Brown Bear.

[Luke Burbank]

Car Wash Andrew me toomgus me here your birthday.

[Andrew Walsh]

And then I just reach over and I grab one of your licorice style braids and I eat it in front of you. And nobody is grossed out by that. But anyway, I thought that was a good idea, but I couldn't really find an AM PM card like the one by our house is mostly more of a new Hampster Dam esque open air drug market. I tried to get some gift cards for that. That didn't work out so well either. A lot of people were saying, what about just a grocery store like QFC or Fred Meyer? Which I was like, that just feels a little. That feels a little. Not personal enough. I don't know if I'm overthinking this, but it's kind of like, oh, here, I got you $20 to take off your grocery.

[Luke Burbank]

Very utilitarian. Yeah, it's like the sweet spot that you're going for. You already kind of described this, but it's like, it's something that would be. Kind of feel like a treat to this person, but something that they're already doing in their normal life because like you said, you don't want them to make a special trip to a restaurant they don't generally go to. But also not so utilitarian that it's just like, hey, I, you know, I. I knocked $20 off of your light bill this month.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right. Or what if I had gotten. What if I'd gotten them a. A gift card for Seattle Public utilities garbage collection. That would be something.

[Luke Burbank]

The irony.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. But anyway, here's. I actually like what I ended up on. So I've never bought a gift card in the modern sense of buying a gift card. I know that sounds bananas. You know, I'll get Genevieve maybe a. A gift card or certificate to a fancy spa or something like that. But like, you know, when you go into almost any grocery store these days, there's a whole wall of gift cards, you know, And I pass them. I always think, oh, mostly for Chili's. A lot of them are for Chili's. A lot of Target. There were some Minecraft gift cards. I thought about getting one of those for the garbage collector, but what I ended up doing was I saw a Jersey Mike's and I was like, Jersey Mike's?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, that's such a good solution.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm so glad to hear you say that. I was like, that. That's. That's it. And then I was like, yes, IHOP was a bad idea. It was like too involved. I have to Go there, sit down and order the Rudy Tutti Fresh and fruity. No, no. A Jersey Mike's gift card. Like, and I just did. I was gonna do 25 at IHOP, but I was like, 25? 20 bucks is fine. That's basically like a soda and a sandwich at Jersey Mike's while you're driving around town. Maybe it'll cover chips as well. And so I was happy with that. And as we speak right now, there is an envelope taped to the top of my garbage bin out there. And the truck has not come yet, but it will literally come within probably an hour or less. There is an envelope. It is a letter sized envelope. That is a fancy envelope. Because the only envelopes I have now, Luke, I swear to God, are the same envelopes that I used to apply for jobs out of college. We're old enough that when we applied for jobs out of college, we bought nice, like, business stationery and envelopes. And I would type out cover letters and print my resume on there. And then I would send it out with like, you know, cassette tapes or CDs of my radio work.

[Luke Burbank]

Can I ask you maybe a somewhat stupid question? Do you mean that these are in the style of those envelopes or these are literally envelopes that you have had in your life for 25 plus years?

[Andrew Walsh]

These are literally envelopes I've had. Look, it is the connoisseur collection, my friend.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, my God. Exceptional resume envelopes, by the way. They went with papyrus, it looks like, for the exceptional resume.

[Andrew Walsh]

I didn't buy their font, but look, I'm only down to like this many envelopes. These are the only envelopes I own in my life right now because we. We mail so few letters that I just. It started with 50 envelopes.

[Luke Burbank]

Just shops, as I say to you, because, like, again, I don't. I'm not trying to belabor this, but we're talking pre New Hampshire, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

This is when I was in Ohio applying for jobs out of college.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, you're still wet behind. You're a recent Kent State grad. You're applying for jobs. You almost take one at Interlochen.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right, exactly. You know the story.

[Luke Burbank]

You end up at. You end up at New Hampshire. Do you end up at New Hampshire Public Radio?

[Andrew Walsh]

I do, yeah. I accept the job in Interlochen, Michigan, but then New Hampshire calls me, says, would you also, would you like to come out for an interview? So I kind of slowed everything down on Michigan and I took the job in New Hampshire. Eventually go out there. I will Say these are laser and inkjet, Gary guaranteed. Just so you know.

[Luke Burbank]

I just, I'm saying those things traveled from Ohio to New Hampshire to Seattle to Los Angeles, back to Seattle. And that, my friend, is unfortunately that is an extremely strong supporting statement. That is an amicus brief for hoarding, isn't it?

[Andrew Walsh]

Amicus?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I go back and forth. Some people, I've heard say amicus. Some people say, oh by the way, I had to read this script the other day for a major software concern. I was doing it from home and one of the lines was. Had the word integral or integral.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And I looked it up. I was like, let me just try to figure this once and for all. If you go to the pronouncers for integral or integral, it's a British guy saying, it's. You can either say it as integral or integral. I believe that is so unhelpful.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, it's very helpful. I think either really is fine.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, okay, but, but, but, but like in other words, you actually used this envelope. Like you've carried these envelopes around cross state lines and back and you've packed them and unpacked them and placed them and organized them and you're using them. I'm actually so impressed with this. Like I just don't have the ability to keep something, an object like that in my life or a stack of objects in my life for years and years and years and years and then end up using it. Like I feel that the envelopes are the much like what was her new, what was her name? Amy Lou Wood in the White Lotus. I feel like these envelopes are the breakout star of today's show.

[Andrew Walsh]

I also have those little doohickeys that would allow you to screw rabbit ears onto the back of your cable ready television. Like I have things from my childhood.

[Luke Burbank]

The little horseshoe kind of thing.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, there's that one and also the one that looks like a little plastic block basically.

[Luke Burbank]

And you can.

[Andrew Walsh]

With the two screws on it, you would screw the rabbit ears under there and then plug it into the little cable thing. So yeah, I have some objects that go back to my youth, so I'm pretty good at hanging on to things. But anyway, they're the only envelopes I have.

[Luke Burbank]

So what did you write on the envelope?

[Andrew Walsh]

I wrote for the collector. Thanks. Which is a little bit weird. I should have said garbage collector, but I wasn't sure what the actual, what is the actual job description of a garbage collector? I feel like there's probably a more proper way of saying that. Right, I guess.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, you know, if we were in Jersey, we'd say waste management, but then that gets real. Tony Soprano.

[Andrew Walsh]

I said for the mobster.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, exactly. I don't know, but I guess the reason I was curious about what you wrote on there is because obviously you're also. You need this envelope to be noticeable enough that the person picking up your garbage sees it and realizes it's for them, but not so noticeable that someone who is not them is wandering down the street and just gets a free Jersey. Mike's gift certificate.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right. I can send you the photo. I took a quick photo. It was very, very bright outside. I didn't love my language. I wrote for the collector and then I wrote.

[Luke Burbank]

That just sounds like maybe you're just saying, like, for the person who's collected every kind of garbage can but needs this one still to finish the collection.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm pretty. No, I'm not sure that anybody. It's a little bit awkward how I wrote it, but I think it's also. It's self evident, I believe. Okay, so I mean, it's a self fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, the humor is self evident.

[Luke Burbank]

It's like these truths.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. So anyway, and then inside I just wrote, wrote, hey, and by the way, I do not have fancy paper. The fancy paper that came with these envelopes is long, long gone because I used more of that. But so I just kind of hand wrote on a piece of like yellow legal pad paper, just like, hey, sorry about all the dust in the bin last week. It was from my vacuum. I didn't realize that was an issue. I feel bad about that. And then maybe, I don't know, did I write something like, you know, definitely won't happen again or something kind of friendly like. Like that. And then I signed it just like with an A or whatever. And then I was like, but do I mention the gift card at all? I didn't want to be like. And so for your trouble, my good manners, I didn't know exactly how to address. This is where things get. I already sound really crazy here, and I realized that and I'm leaning into it. But this is where things get a little bit crazier. I'm like looking at it and I'm like, I don't want to rewrite it. I should mention something.

[Luke Burbank]

So what I did you write lunch for two?

[Andrew Walsh]

I wrote, P.S. if you'd like to take somebody to lunch, I'm always available. And then I put on some lipstick and I kissed it.

[Luke Burbank]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Walsh]

Can you Picture that.

[Luke Burbank]

I can picture it very vividly.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, exactly. No, you know what? I wrote it. I wrote, P.S. not sure if you're a Jersey Mike's person, but I personally like the number 13. Maybe number 13 Italian. Maybe. I wrote, I like the number 13 Italian sandwich, or whatever it's called or whatever.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

So I thought it was just sort.

[Luke Burbank]

Of a way of nice little friendly. Friendly, whatever.

[Andrew Walsh]

And you know why I put that? Because you get a gift card. Like, if my. My dad will sometimes send me a gift card. And what he does is he includes the receipt at the grocery store he bought it at, so I see how much it's worth. But that's a little bit gauche to me. But also, I didn't. I wanted to. This is so in my head. But I also was like, it's 20 bucks. It's like, basically one sandwich. I would guess that that's what somebody in this situation would expect. But I was also like, I don't want them to be disappointed if they think that I'm like, it's a $50 gift card or some shit like that.

[Luke Burbank]

I think that they'll be pleasantly surprised with 20.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, good. Because I. That's why I wanted to indicate that, like, basically what I was doing with my little. P.S. there was trying, without saying it, trying to indicate that this is basically a sandwich.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm giving you a sandwich good for one sandwich. Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

And one back rub.

[Luke Burbank]

See, that you could have left out, but no.

[Andrew Walsh]

So that's what I wrote. I wrote, I'm not sure if you're Jersey Mike's person, but I like the number 13 Italian classic, or whatever the hell it's called. And that was it. And so I will let you know tomorrow after the garbage is picked up, I'm assuming. I mean, listen, either way, that envelope is going to be gone. I mean, the only weird thing, though, is we should.

[Luke Burbank]

We need a blink cam on this.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, because. Because, like, if.

[Luke Burbank]

If the. Yeah. Can we have. Can we get Genevieve in a ghillie suit, please? Just hiding in the. Just Homer Simpsoning. Homer Simpsoning in the hedge. Because. Because that's the thing. They'll. It will be gone one way or the other, and.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

And it will be unclear in the short term if it got to the same. If it was the same person who picked it up, if you know what I mean? Like, if it. If it was picked up by the person who's doing the garbage collection on this morning or someone who walked by. I'm saying likely the person who did the Garbage collection.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think so, too.

[Luke Burbank]

Was that going to be. Is that going to be the same person who was on the route last week? Maybe that person has the week off.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is it a crow action around?

[Luke Burbank]

Is there four crows that have put their estimable mental abilities together to form one garbage collector and steal it? And then, boy, when you see them coming into Jersey, Mike's in a trench coat to order their sandwich, that's when you really see their level of intellect. No, but like, because now, first of all, all of this from you, Andrew, is so above and beyond and really nice. Like, I think this is really. You didn't bring this up to sort of pat yourself on the back, but this has all been very, very thoughtful. So. So there's no. There's no huge downside to any of this. But I do think now the new thing will be if you. If you happen to lock eyes with the person who picks up your trash going forward, they'll may always be the question, did they get that? Did they get the sandwich?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that's funny. I thought you were going to say something else. No, I don't think that will bother me as much. Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Because that would haunt me. I'd be like, did you. Did you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did you.

[Luke Burbank]

Did you get the nice thing? I did.

[Andrew Walsh]

See, for me, it'd be. It's almost the opposite. Like, now I don't. I don't want to make eye contact with the collector ever again. Now, see, that's the thing. Like, there were times where I would go out there and pick up the garbage. And I think. And I think, assuming it's the same guy, it's been a long time.

[Luke Burbank]

Is it possible he's out this week because he's having eye surgery?

[Andrew Walsh]

Right, Exactly. Destroyed his corneas.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, but you don't, like, you don't. You don't want.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't want to have a conversation.

[Luke Burbank]

Tip of the cap.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't want a conversation about. You know what I mean? Like, now I, more than ever, I want to remain not anonymous. Like, what I really want, obviously, is special treatment. Like, let's, let's. Let's not. So can I tell you actually about the dream I had? You look like a dream catcher came to life. So this was actually not last night, the night before. Clearly my subconscious mind blows. Being somewhat anxious about this handoff of the gift card with the note and making sure it gets in the right hands. My dream the other night. So, first of all, in real life, this is not part of the dream. In real life, I Live on a corner lot. Genevieve and I live on a corner lot, right? So there are two streets, and one of our streets is our mailing address, but the street that our garbage is picked up on is not the street that's our mailing address. Does that make sense? So I say I live on street A, but it's actually street B where the truck comes and picks up my garbage, which makes things a little bit complicated. Like when I had to call the service the other day and explain to them kind of what my. What my house is and how the garbage is picked up. And so in my dream, I woke up one morning and I saw the garbage collectors taking our garbage bins away and taking the gift card, but it was on the wrong street. And I was like, how did I put my bins on the wrong street? The wrong garbage collectors came and card. And also in my dream, I was like, why did I put them on the wrong street? Could I have been doing this all along? And then importantly, what happens in my dream is even though it's a different collector, they're so touched by this that they drop off an extra bin for me. And now I have an extra bin. So I think in the back of my mind, even though I haven't really addressed this on the show, is, am I doing this because I feel bad or because I want to maintain a.

[Luke Burbank]

Good old fashioned palm greasing, good relationship.

[Andrew Walsh]

With this service provider, knowing that it is supposedly the same person week in and week out? And because people have told me that it probably got back to the truck drivers when I was complaining about the extra fees, I remember I heard from an ex or a former pickup garbage collector who said, actually, yes, this does get back to us. And I'll bet you a million bucks, like, they did hear about you complaining about the extra fees. So now sort of in my head, not unlike a crow that you raised before, that recognizes human faces, I feel like there is a bit of a relationship between us and these folks who are collecting our garbage. So I want to be on their good side when I do truly feel like I was in the wrong.

[Luke Burbank]

I would like to be a garbage man for like one day a year. Like a day like today. Like, it's beautiful, it's sunny, it's not too hot, it's not too cold. Seems like this morning, being out on that truck, grabbing those cans, tossing them in, you know, making the rounds, seems like a nice. I wouldn't want to do it, you know, four weeks a month, 52 weeks a year or whatever, But There'd be like a. I had this thought the other day too. I was driving through town and it was another. It was a nice day and there was a, like a, you know, male woman, I guess, and she was walking her route and she had that big kind of bag on. She had like a nice smile on her face. And she was in a. It was down in town, so it's a sidewalk to neighborhood. And I just thought, man, I would love to be. I would love to deliver mail two days a year. I would like. There's a lot of jobs I'd like to have one day out of the year. It was like the perfect day. And I think I could see doing garbage collecting as being one of those. On a good day when everything's clicking and the people are being. People aren't being jerks and there's not like tons of stuff overflowing and people haven't laced the garbage with dust that absolutely slices your cornea. I could see it being kind of a fun. Although I also think. Have we. I don't know how the. To do it in your neighborhood. Maybe because I live in a rural area. It's just so different. Like, it's just a guy with a truck that has, like, robot pinchers on it. It's not like my. My thought of. Of be doing garbage collection is like the. It's the, like. Was that Emilio Estefes was in that movie?

[Andrew Walsh]

What was the one where they. At work.

[Luke Burbank]

Men at work. It's.

[Andrew Walsh]

And Sheen, Right. Wasn't a brother.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Was it? That's my memory of it. It's like two guys riding on the back of the truck, like, standing on the. On the. On the bumper like that. To me, as a kid, I was like, I can't even believe that's legal.

[Andrew Walsh]

But then don't you find a dead body or something? Isn't that what happens?

[Luke Burbank]

I'm sure that's what happens in that movie. I just want the first part of the movie.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Where they're just riding around, a couple of bros broing it up. But like, the. I feel like the. In your neighborhood, is it like. Is it a couple of guys hanging off the back of the truck and then they jump down and then they grab the can and throw it in. What's the process?

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know. I don't get eyes on the actual process. That's why I was surprised about the dust being a problem, because I figured it was a robot arm, you know, so I'm not sure what the problem. Although the one Time I did see the yard waste person come. We had a Christmas tree out there, and he did come down off the truck, grab the Christmas tree, and throw it in there by hand. And also, we have a tiny little green yard waste bin, so I find it hard to believe any machine would pick that up. You know your fantasy of being a garbage collector, I don't think I share that one. And I think even a good day could be really rough as far as, like. Like, there is a business not too far from our house that clearly Veeves and I were walking down the sidewalk the other day and we got a whiff of, like, somebody had clearly thrown away, like, probably like 30 pounds of shrimp the day before or something like that. And we were nowhere. Oh, no. We were nowhere.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And it was just like. And I think as I'm getting older, my gag reflects sex is getting even worse. I was like. Like, I'm getting sick even thinking about this cloud of stench we went through. And I think even on a good day, I mean, you're emptying, what, like 200, 300. Yeah, they can't.

[Luke Burbank]

They can't all be from the. From the perfume factory, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

You know?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, so you're gonna. You're always gonna get some misses. Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe I'll stick with podcasting.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, maybe. Or. Or your letter carrier situation.

[Luke Burbank]

We was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark. Get set, get set now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ready?

[Luke Burbank]

Ready? Go. Everybody. Razzle dazzle. Well, until my ship comes in and I can finally get that lucrative postal carrier work coming in, I'm gonna. I am gonna stick with podcasting, and it's gonna be because of these dazzling donors, Andrew. They are donating a dazzling amount of Don, and they are keeping TBT on business. And we are so grateful, we really are, for folks like Stefan and Jay Barajnoy. Now, let's see. They're in Portland, Oregon. I'm really hoping that I got that last name right. I. I tried to follow. There was very detailed instructions on how to say it. It may have made it harder on me. I had to just let. I had to go first. Thought, best thought, thought.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, I. You could also go be. Maybe. I'm not sure where the emphasis is. That's the.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, Andrew, just close your eyes and I'm going to tell you the pronouncer as it was written and. And see if you landed the same.

[Andrew Walsh]

Spot I landed at My eyes are closed.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, so Stefan's name is Steph. Like Steph Curry. That's actually not important.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's good.

[Luke Burbank]

So the last name is. Okay, it's B E H, but like, say it like meh.

[Andrew Walsh]

So it's meh.

[Luke Burbank]

B. Yeah. And then Rej.

[Andrew Walsh]

Reg. I opened my eyes. Sorry, I'm closing them.

[Luke Burbank]

Close them again. If you're not going to take this seriously, you're not going to do it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Failed.

[Luke Burbank]

You Re is the R E H part. Rhymes with meh.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, so.

[Luke Burbank]

So we've got two. So it's like barrette. So it's going to be the meh sound twice and then this. The zh. The sounds like Z it up.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Yep. And then noi. There's emphasis on the noi.

[Andrew Walsh]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. Stefan and Jay Barezhnoy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Avoid the beratial.

[Luke Burbank]

Avoid. Avoid the noise.

[Andrew Walsh]

Classic. Classic.

[Luke Burbank]

God, we can't make enough dominoes. Domino's jokes.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know.

[Luke Burbank]

Jay and Stefan say, longtime listener, first time dazzler here. I, Jay, have been a 10 since I was in middle school. Notably getting drunk for the first time the night TV channel was canceled. I believe Jay shared the story with us at the boat show.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. When we did a lot TV channel live @ sea.

[Luke Burbank]

That's right. And I was, I had mixed feelings about that, of course. I mean, I love that we get to be part of Jay's personal history. I don't know if. Because I don't. My memory is Jay was J. Not. Was Jay the legal drinking age when this happened to Jay? I can't remember.

[Andrew Walsh]

You mean by the time. Oh, no, no. When the show happened? No, no. She was underage, I believe. Because I believe she said something like don't tell my mom or I hope my mom isn't listening to this. Or something along those lines.

[Luke Burbank]

Lines I've been attend since middle school. Notably getting drunk for the first time. TBTL was cancel for the night. The first time TBTL was canceled. Wait, I, I, I lost a comma there. Not that TBT has been canceled twice. It's only been canceled once.

[Andrew Walsh]

Bar.

[Luke Burbank]

TBTL has been with me through it all. Long drives, sleepless nights, a life threatening accident. Oh, Jay, I'm sorry. And even preparing for the first date I had with Stefan. I'm pretty sure I made you both cry about that. Thank you for being my constant companions through it all with our message. I'd love to urge other tents to volunteer with First Robotics, a worldwide organization that aims to get kiddos into STEM. I have been a professional robotics coach for 11 years now and it means the world to me. We have a massive shortage of representation, especially in Oregon. And I would, it would be great to see more women, people of color and openly queer adults showing kids, kids that everyone belongs in STEM. To volunteer, check out first inspires.org or reach out to me via Insta or [e-mail] firstinspires.org I'm going over to this website. A global robotics community preparing young people to the future. This looks freaking badass, dude.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love me some robots. I'm wondering if these kids could help out my garbage collector. Like make a garbage arm for the.

[Luke Burbank]

Truck, you know, or just something that stands by the garbage can and then places a gift card on it right when the guy shows up. Just like a. Some kind of a laser detection system. So that way the gift card only goes to the person that's intended to. This I would have been. Not that I had any particular aptitude as a young person for things mechanical, but I'm looking at this website and I am just, I would have been so, so into this as a kid. Just like, like putting together these cool robotic solutions to things, getting them, getting these robots and other pieces of machinery to perform interesting and intricate tasks or shoot basketballs or just do all kinds of cool stuff. This is amazing.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I'm into it. I like to think that if I had this opportunity though, I would only. They would be frustrated with me because I would just keep on making like humanoid style robots. They'd be like, hey, can you make a robot that can handle this task? And maybe that task is like squeezing an orange for fresh orange juice. Well, all you need is probably a little countertop device. But I would create like, you'd start.

[Luke Burbank]

By working on the dress. I would start working on literally what I was picturing the maid's uniform.

[Andrew Walsh]

I would always have like a full size humanoid robot coming up and being like, can I help you with your orange juice?

[Luke Burbank]

You would not be able to separate out the form versus the function. Like all this thing needs to do is to be two things that close to squeeze the orange juice. But you're like, what size feather dust might this thing be carrying?

[Andrew Walsh]

Because I think, and I think that Mark Zuckerberg has figured this out too. If I was reading today's headlines correctly, what I really need is a friend. What I really need is a robot friend. That makes me orange juice. I don't need the orange juice so much as I need the companion sheet.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, much more so. Well, Jay, And Stefan, thank you so much for supporting the show. And everybody go check out firstinspires.org to see what you can do to help young people interact with Stem. Maestro, on your mark, on your mark. Get set, get set now. Ready, ready, go. Everybody rattles down look who it is. It's Will Burton.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey, Will.

[Luke Burbank]

Will, as in traditional pronunciation Burton, but said in Luke's Bill Clinton voice so it'd be like Will Burton. It's a hard transition. To me it is.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

The man of two voices. That's what they call me. Will is in Worthington, Ohio. Hey friendos. Thanks for another year of episodes. I'm a newish listener having first tuned in during the fall of 2014. Sometimes I don't. It's very obvious to the listeners. Andrew. I don't pre read these things, but sometimes I just. I'll skip ahead a sentence or something. Like when we were playing the music for Will's message, I just saw the words new listener. I was like, oh wow, new listener. And I didn't finish the sentence until you heard me finishing the sentence in real time. When I learned that Will's been listening for a decade or more. More than a decade. Shout out to my TBTL madre superior. How do you catch a cloud and pin it down? Aaron in Portland for introducing me and changing my life for the next decade. Plus other shout outs. My five Nora. My adoption of her became official last year. Year. She likes overhearing the show when riding in the car with me and yells at me to be quiet during the intros as she listens for her own voice drop that you play from time to time.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that is so awesome.

[Luke Burbank]

That's super awesome.

[Andrew Walsh]

Shout out to Nora and also Will. Like come on. Yeah, like be quiet. Why are you talking?

[Luke Burbank]

Each one of these words is fearfully and wonderfully made. That's right. We're getting very biblical on the show for some reason these days. We were talking about about the Garden of Gethsemane. We were talking about fearful and wondrous making of things. Let's see my 11 Laura. Thank you to her for her patience over the last seven years of hearing me start so many sentence with sentences with Luke and Andrew were saying and my fellow Worthing 10, Abby Hersey. All 10 should check out her artwork and drop her a line if you want some custom work done. Thank you both for keeping the show going through lots of life events. We all appreciate you. Punch in the podcast time card five days a week for our listening pleasure. Some might say what you do is so important. Also consider a live show in Ohio.

[Andrew Walsh]

Considered, considering.

[Luke Burbank]

Duly noted and considered. Will thank you so much and shout out to Nora and Laura for. Well, Nora for enjoying and Laura for tolerating this thing that is tbtl. We couldn't do this without Gotcha.

[Andrew Walsh]

There's a right way to rock and.

[Luke Burbank]

A wrong way to roll.

[Andrew Walsh]

You can't just listen to your song. Just remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing number one. We have a healthy serving of birthday wishes today, Luke. If anybody wants to share a birthday or blurs day wish as we say on this show, email me andrewbtl.net April and James say Happy Blurs Day to our son Merritt, who turns 10 on May 5. It's coming up double digits. Merit has been a surprise delight ever since he rocketed into the world a decade ago. He is truly one of a kind and we love him so much. Happy Birthday May Bear Slay Bestie. That's how you get me to say slay bestie. Uh huh. Denny says. I'm writing to wish my brother Dave a very happy 37th Blursday. It's a joy to get to watch you grow as an amazing husband and father. I'm so glad our kids get to grow up together. There's no one I would rather share the joy of a mid to late afternoon televised rendition of the Rock Crimson Tide or any other mid-90s action flick they just hit right when played on TBS. You take any issue with that? Luke, I thought you were maybe questioning the value of watching Crimson Tide on a random Saturday afternoon.

[Luke Burbank]

No, it sounds great, doesn't it? I need to do more of that. That's not. I feel like you might not be so much of an afternoon Crimson Tide watcher, but I've said this before. Like I feel like you have a different relationship with televised content than I do. In that you'll watch, you just put something on. It's just from an era that you're kind of looking to see that you're looking to watch because you just, I don't know, the outfits or the particular kind of film they're using. Like it would never occur to me to do that. But I actually, I think I might need to start investigating that because I put two much pressure on myself to pick the right show.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, well, weirdly, I still put a lot of pressure on me for the right vibe like that. That's the problem. Like it was up to me. Inherent Vice would just be on in the background at all times. But I also would like to keep Genevieve in my life. So that's, that's the balance. I think that the perfect, the perfect balance there though, is the Rockford Files, honestly. Anyway.

[Luke Burbank]

Huh. That's the overlap of your, your interest in that particular era of, of television and Genevieve's interest in a very, very hunky James Garner.

[Andrew Walsh]

So hot.

[Luke Burbank]

James Garner is probably 22 when he made the.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's the thing. But also the reason I group those together is the vibe is different. But they're both about like west coast, I believe, like kind of Santa Monica, living on the beach. Like sort of private detective guys who are like kind of getting it from all sides sort of. Only one is like very like kind of trippy and super, super long. We just brought this up the other day. Right? That's P.T. anderson, I think. And then Rockford Files is kind of similarly. You still kind of lose the plot in those things, like in a classic noir, but like, it's still sort of that, that, you know, I'm on the beach, I live in a trailer kind of PI kind of vibe. I think he lives with his dad in that trailer, by the way. But it's, you know, more accessible, I would say. Erica says, I'd like to wish the happiest of blursays to my 11 or maybe 10 and a half. Justin, you're the kindest, bestest guy and I'm so lucky you hiked your way into my life. I've said it before and this is interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

Sounds a goat. Like maybe they were hiking on the trail, they saw a goat.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, exactly. I was trying because one person was rocketed into somebody's life and this person hiked into somebody's life. I've said it before and I'll say it every year. I'm so glad you were born. Happy blurs day to Justin from Erica. Molly in Tallahassee says happy blurs day to my fellow tally 10 Brian. We haven't met IRL yet, but I'm sure we will soon enough as he's the only other 10 I know here and I just realized we're the same age. I'll be joining the four decade club in a few months. Happy big four zero, Brian. That's from Molly in Tallahassee to Brian in Tallahassee. I should mention there's a note in here that I accidentally said Brian was in Tennessee the last time I did this. My apologies.

[Luke Burbank]

They always say north Florida is south Tennessee.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's what they all. They always Say I'm sick of hearing it.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Jane says we'd like to wish Kathleen A happy 34th. Blurs. Seeing you IRL last week was extra sweet. May your Minnesota garden grow and flourish and all that you nurture, thrive. Love you to the moon and back. Welcome back, your Colorado fam Katie says happy blursday, Lloyd. I know if this message finds its way to you, it'll make your day. It's been a tough couple of weeks taking care of your dad, and I'm grateful you've had the reprieve that TBTL offers. You are so wonderful and do such an incredible job caring for others every dang day as a nurse, family member, and human being. And you deserve all the things you love. So get yourself some banana milk and turn on the show.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey, Lloyd. Absolutely. Happy birthday, Lloyd. Sounds like you got your pretty full plate. Hope it's all going okay. Look at this. Luke Kristen of Thunder Bay. Where have we heard that?

[Luke Burbank]

Wait a second. That's right. That was the person who started the show for us.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. Who has a little bit of a cold and sounded like the chicken lady.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is Kristen who says, happy.

[Luke Burbank]

That's the most deeply Canadian thing that's ever happened. Somebody in Thunder Bay calling in to do a Kids in the hall impression.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do you know that I. This would have been unprecedented. We were playing the intro. I had just, like, taken Kristen's voicemail and, you know, mixed it with a bunch of other drops for today's show. And I'd done that right before the show. And then we did our sound check. We're all set to go. We were actually rolling halfway through Kristen's kind of voicemail. At the beginning, I almost stopped and said, luke, stop the show. I made a mistake. I didn't include any of the original chicken lady from Kids in the hall in, like. Wouldn't that have been good if we had started with Kristen doing her imitation of the chicken lady?

[Luke Burbank]

I see. And then you put the chicken lady in the. In the downstream. The. The waterfall, if you will.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. I really should have done that. And I'll play it here.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, what are you? I'm a chicken lady.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can I get you a beer?

[Luke Burbank]

Would you like to just drink out of the toilet?

[Andrew Walsh]

A beer. Okay. Show yourself, Veeves. And I cannot say the word beer without saying a beer in a sarcastic Dave Foley voice there. Anyway, what were we doing here? We're getting the music going again. We're going back to Kristen's note, and.

[Luke Burbank]

We'Re in Thunder Bay. Dateline Thunder Bay, Ontario.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thunder Bay, Ontario. Happy birthday to my 11 Milo of what podcast are you talking about? TBTL drop name. He is turning 12 on May 4th, and I couldn't be more proud of my Star wars baby. Happy blursday, Milo, from the Chicken Lady. And finally, and Andrew says, and this is not me, this is a different Andrew. There are dozens of us. Andrew says, I write to apprise you that the individual known as Grace shall on the morrow mark her her 36th year upon this earth. When last I penned such a missive, she was in the throes of recovery from a torn acl, the unfortunate consequence of a skiing mishap. It is with no small measure of pride that I acknowledge her perseverance and unwavering dedication, which have culminated in a full restoration of her faculties. Happy Thursday, Grace.

[Luke Burbank]

Signed Edgar Allan Poe.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right, quoth the Andrew.

[Luke Burbank]

Happy birthday. That's right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Happy birthday.

[Luke Burbank]

Happy blurs to everybody. What a nice day to have a blurs day. It's beautiful. It's sunny. I mean, I don't know if it's this weather pattern everywhere, but certainly is here and it's a lovely day. All right, that's gonna do it for today's episode of tbtl. But as you know, if you've been carefully listening for the last 11 years, we've got another episode coming your way tomorrow. Tomorrow. That's right. So please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Thursday, take care of y'all's selves, and please remember, no mountain too tall, and good luck to all. Power out.