
Andrew reports back to duty after yesterday’s colonoscopy. And Luke finds a new Seahawks promo personally triggering (and also pretty cool.)
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Andrew Walsh
Hold it.
Luke Burbank
Is that what you're having for breakfast?
Andrew Walsh
Sure. Haven't you heard? Fiber is really good for you.
Luke Burbank
Well, there's fiber and then there's high fiber. Try this.
Andrew Walsh
Mmm.
Luke Burbank
Folen blood. Sounds delicious.
Andrew Walsh
But is it really higher in fiber than my Oat bran cereal?
Luke Burbank
Take a guess. How many bowls of your oat bran cereal would it take to equal the fiber content of one bowl of colon blow?
Andrew Walsh
2.
Luke Burbank
Guess again.
Andrew Walsh
3.
Luke Burbank
A little higher. 4. Keep trying.
Andrew Walsh
5.
Luke Burbank
No, you'll have to do better than that.
Andrew Walsh
7.
Luke Burbank
Guess again.
Andrew Walsh
8.
Luke Burbank
We'll give you one more guess.
Andrew Walsh
9.
Luke Burbank
Not even close. It would take over 30,000 bowls to eat that much. You'd have to eat 10 bowls a day, every day for eight and a half years.
Andrew Walsh
Wow. I think I get the picture. Colon Blow must be the highest fiber cereal on the market.
Luke Burbank
Not anymore. Now that there's new super colon Blow.
Andrew Walsh
Super Colon Blow.
Luke Burbank
It would take over two and a half million bowls of your own brand cereal to equal the fiber content of one bowl of super colon blow.
Andrew Walsh
I'm convinced. Colon blow and you in the morning.
Luke Burbank
Colon Blow and new super colon blow Warning. May cause abdominal distension. Consult a physician. Tbtm.
Andrew Walsh
Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. It's Friday. Friday. Gonna get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend.
Luke Burbank
One thing I can promise you is the the sun will come up tomorrow and. And we'll be attacking it with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. What if I came home to you and took your butter from your fridge? Frigate the fridge and took your butter away from you?
Andrew Walsh
No. Definitely. Yeah. Literally. No. Yeah. Yeah. No, for sure. No. Yeah, Booty Scoop, scoop. Poop, poop.
Luke Burbank
All right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Dime is a flat circle. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host.
Andrew Walsh
This whole conversation bothers me.
Luke Burbank
Coming to you from the Madrona Hills studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia on a wet and foggy cloud. Fog Friday morning. And yet couldn't be happier to be here with all of you celebrating episode 4468 in a collector series.
Andrew Walsh
Let the fun begin.
Luke Burbank
There's a reason we started the show with Colon Blow Saturday Night Live sketch. It's because number two stuff has been a huge theme on the show this week. When was the last time you shit your pants? Been a while. Because Andrew was having his colonoscopy. We're gonna get an update on that. And then the Seahawks, the Seattle Seahawks football team. They're adding to the discourse with a new commercial about the old Kingdome bathrooms that was sort of triggering for me as someone who once had an incident in an old Kingdome bathroom. For me, a bathroom is just a library with a cold seat. So we'll talk about that and then Andrew and I have. We've committed that after today's show, we are not talking about number two stuff or bathroom stuff for a long, long time. Today is the end of that line of conversation for a good while for those of you that don't like that kind of fresh talk. But we do have a little bit more of it that we have to bring you today to get the update on how this guy's doing. By the way, he is the longest running cobra of the show. What the hell is even that? Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
Andrew Walsh
Good morning, Luke. I just threw away all of this paperwork that has been a constant on my desk for the past week or so. All this paperwork about what to expect.
Luke Burbank
When you're expecting a paperwork is finished.
Andrew Walsh
Exactly. So I'm glad to be able to get rid of all this colonoscopy paperwork. You ever have something like that where you've had. You've had something on your horizon for so long that whatever the prep work for it is, is just sitting on your desk that it becomes part of the furniture?
Luke Burbank
Absolutely.
Andrew Walsh
You're just like, oh, my God, I don't need this stuff anymore. Like, the. The thon is over. I can delete these emails or whatever.
Luke Burbank
Thon is over if you want it.
Andrew Walsh
Thon is over now if you want it. That would be a great way for us to close out the TBTL a thon this year.
Luke Burbank
I know what you mean, though. Like, you hang on to something, whether it's an instruction manual or just this thing where you're like, yeah, but what if they call and they say, we can't find it and you knew you faxed it, but they might not have it? And then there's also that point of finality where you're like, well, I'm not getting another one of these colonoscopies, ideally for a good while. And so I can actually toss this out now if we can. Andrew, for a minute, center me in the conversation. I want to talk to you about how I became aware of the fact that you had survived your colonoscopy and that you were doing fine. And that was because we were in The. I was in the midst with a text chain with our friend television's Chris Hayes yesterday, and he had heard, I don't want to put his business out there, but let's just say he was responding to some of the stuff I had said recently while I was in New York City. And he was texting you and me about this and we were going back and forth. And at this time, I assumed you were, I would say, under the knife, but it's not really a knife. You were under the. You were under the cam.
Andrew Walsh
I was. I was around the tube.
Luke Burbank
Yes, you were. You were minding the gap in the tube. Around the tube. Anyway, so I figured that this was more or less Chris and I texting and that you might see it later when you emerge from your haze and your days of propofol. And I said I was texting something with Chris. And then you just respond, this is at, let's see, 3:12pm West coast time yesterday. You just said, that would be so cool.
Andrew Walsh
And then I said, I hearted one of them.
Luke Burbank
You harded something at 3:12 and then at 3:25. So again, you're moving slow. You've been through a procedure, so it's taking you. It's taking you 13 minutes between Harding something and then. And then coming in with original content.
Andrew Walsh
That says, I think I was moving. I think I hearted it when I was like in the. In the facility. And then I finally had a chance to respond when I was in the car.
Luke Burbank
Gotcha. So you said, that would be so cool. And then I said, well, well, well, by my watch, someone is officially post colonoscopy. And then you said, I'm in the middle of it right now. Wild ride.
Andrew Walsh
Yes.
Luke Burbank
And that's. And that's when I knew my good friend Andrew was back.
Andrew Walsh
Baby, I thought. I thought you were going. I feel like I was trying to maybe be pre defensive there because I thought you were gonna say that what I texted was a little bit weird or something like that because maybe I was still under the drugs. But I just want you to know that I stand by what we were texting about. That would be so cool.
Luke Burbank
Absolutely. No, but I thought that was funny. And television also loved it.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. Yeah.
Luke Burbank
My response was, you're handling with grace and power like a tall ship.
Andrew Walsh
Yes, exactly. Yeah, no, of course, that was a bit of a jape. I was not actually texting you while the tube was in there. But not long after, to be honest with you, that might have my first post colonoscopy text. Everything went pretty Well, I think I'm here.
Luke Burbank
Can we start at the big. Yes. Okay, that's good. I did have, you know, I had a moment on. So we recorded two episodes on Wednesday because obviously you were gonna be busy on Thursday, as you were. And Wednesday night as I was falling asleep, I did have a kind of a moment of concern. And it was. We have absolutely no plan B for if this either goes poorly or if you get really bad news or if you respond negatively to, I mean, you know, they make you sign a million things that say this could kill you.
Andrew Walsh
Sure, I know.
Luke Burbank
And it's like, you know, we were just kind of, we were treating this like this was not going to. There was no chance of this having a particularly negative outcome. And of course it's unlikely that it would. But on Wednesday night I was like, oh man, I really hope, I mean, just because first of all, as your friend, I want it to go well for you. But also as a content creator, I was like, what do we do if this, if this goes off the rails in some kind of a way? And so when I got that text from you and I knew you were okay and you had your, you had your, your wits about you and your sense of humor back, I was really relieved. But can we go back to Thursday morning? You get up, you're now in like pretty much fasting mode on Thursday morning.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, let's see. So the last time I was Wednesday morning at 9am I had a bowl of cereal. Colon pre approved cereal, not colon blow.
Luke Burbank
Let's see how many bowls of your regular cereal?
Andrew Walsh
Not even close. But I, Yeah, so it was a long fasting and I don't, I keep on trying to figure out. I think I'm just like, I don't fast very often or ever. So I, I was getting a little whiny. By Wednesday night I was so hungry because I had eaten at like again, a bowl of cereal at 9:00am on Wednesday. And then by, I don't know, eight, nine o' clock on Wednesday night, I was getting really, really hungry. I guess I'd already, I'd already taken the. Well, the liquid colon below by that point.
Luke Burbank
Maybe that's, maybe I've missed the key part of this story. How was the potion?
Andrew Walsh
The potion, the motion of the potion. It was. So I was very nervous about a lot of aspects of this. More nervous than I think I was letting on. In fact, you know how they say, you know that famous saying, the body keeps the score? Who's that attributed to?
Luke Burbank
I don't know. But it was on the spine. It was on the spine of a book that the therapist that I went to couples therapy with at the end of my last marriage. And it was just like the visual backdrop of a tough time in my life, if that makes sense. Just be sitting in this room talking and talking and then. But staring at something that says the body keeps the score. I think I kind of have a sense of what that means. It's probably about, you know, trauma and kind of the way that it's almost physical in. In the way that we. That we are triggered. But that's the extent of my knowledge of it is looking at the book.
Andrew Walsh
That says that, you know, I always. I've been misusing it. It does have to do with trauma and this. So I don't mean to misuse that, but there is something you're thinking, the.
Luke Burbank
Booty keeps the sky.
Andrew Walsh
That is.
Luke Burbank
We said today is the final day. We're having a closeout sale on all terrible backside humor. And after today, we have to get all this stuff off the lot.
Andrew Walsh
Is making that a show title underscoring it too much? Cause I really did have thoughts, like your casual thoughts about what will you do if I'm dead on Friday? Thank you for that, by the way.
Luke Burbank
Or you just got some upsetting news, seriously.
Andrew Walsh
But also, I was sort of having some regrets about how much we did sort of lean into the poopy side of the talk and how much just time we have dedicated to the conversation of my colonoscopy, especially after we went through all of this with you. But I did read, you know, I was feeling okay about things as we discussed until, like, a few days before. I had to start my prep, and I started to really drill down on the information they had given me. And there was some pretty alarming, like, warnings in there about, like, every aspect of this from, like, from, you know, like, you're going to have to drink the solution. And they didn't say, it's going to taste terrible, but they said, you know, make sure you have a lollipop to suck on afterwards. Make sure you drink it through a straw or hold your nose while you're drinking it. So I'm like, what is this concoction that they're going to make me drink? And then I started hearing from a lot of listeners who said, you know, it's not so bad, or I mixed it with this or that. But it turns out there's a whole bunch of different versions of this stuff. And so I don't know which of their listeners had to drink the same stuff I had to drink again, I don't know how it's pronounced. It's souffle. I'm assuming flav is flav, because there's a flavor packet you put in there.
Luke Burbank
I'm legally obligated to say that every time you say the words souffle.
Andrew Walsh
I apologize, but, you know, I was kind of getting in my head about all of, oh, the body keeps the score thing. By the way, I was just gonna say I thought I was being. I thought I was relatively chill, generally speaking, going into this at least a few days before the prep, but, man, I have had, like, this eczema outbreak on my arm that, like, I have not had for years. Like, I'm not. I don't suffer from eczema that badly. I've looked online, by the way. Don't unless you have to. But if you're ever curious, like, I have a little rash here. How does mine sort of measure up to the world of eczema? I have looked online, and I don't want to complain too much about it because it looks like most eczema is way, way, way more severe than mine. But it was sort of funny how I'm kind of like, ah, I got this. I got this. But my body is, like, literally giving me all of these signs of being like, dude, you got a lot of stre. Stress going on. It's kind of like low level, like, stuff going on inside of here. So that's why I brought up the Booty Keeps the Score, which may be the show title. Is that too much? Okay, I was going to say, is that leaning into this too much on the final day?
Luke Burbank
I think for our final day, I think. I think as we close the week out, I think we might as well end strong. And then maybe that will also help kind of flush it out of our system, so to speak, so that we come back Monday without any of that kind of, you know, without that any of the kind of talk on the mind.
Andrew Walsh
So just to give you an answer to how the flava flav was, it was not so bad. I mean, clearly this one sheet that I was reading was preparing me for the worst case scenario of every step along the way of this colonoscopy.
Luke Burbank
Don't you think that whoever wrote that it might be worth revisiting that? Because to the degree that that's a disincentive for people to go through the process? Like, I know they think, well, we're just warning people. We're just staying. We're just we're making sure they're doing it right, and they know it might suck, et cetera. But I. I feel like there must be some percentage of people who read that what you read, and they don't push through like you did.
Andrew Walsh
I feel like they could have said something in there. Like, most people don't have any issue drinking this, right? But if you're somebody who's especially sensitive to taste or, you know, add a.
Luke Burbank
Line that just says, it wasn't Kool Aid. It was flavor Aid.
Andrew Walsh
Right? This is one quick, like, conversation in the hallway. Just one person to kind of say that. So anyway, I was really. I was nervous about both the fasting part of this for the. You know, it was more than 24 hours, and that's where I was starting to talk before about, Like, I'm not. I don't think I had to wait longer than most people. I do think that maybe if I had scheduled my colonoscopy earlier on the second day, maybe I wouldn't have had to go so long without eating.
Luke Burbank
But honestly, more of it be sleeping time, maybe.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I think I could have. But whatever, it was fine. The fasting wasn't ideal. I told you, I bought jello and made jello for the first time, and I actually did eat. I'm kind of glad I did have that, because on the liquid diet, you could drink broth, you could eat jello, and you could drink liquids as long as they didn't have red dye in them. By the way, I do think I came up with a wonderful hack for this period, because they say you can drink plain broth, like chicken broth or something, which is fine. And I did buy some bouillon. We had some. Genevieve said, we have bullion at home. I grabbed the bullion cubes out of the cupboard. We had beef and chicken flavored. One of them had expired in 2017. The other one, the expiration date, whatever it was, had worn off of it. But what was still on there was the price tag from a place called Star Market, a grocery store Genevieve went to with her roommates when she lived in Boston. That is how long we had these cubes of bullion, like, we've been together.
Luke Burbank
Move over, fancy envelopes. There's a new longtime traveler in town.
Andrew Walsh
I was just like, I cannot believe we have bullion in the cupboard. Like, we clearly don't use it that much since Genevieve was, like, going under this, like, shitty. Walking underneath this shitty tunnel in East Somerville to go to this scary Star Market when we were just.
Luke Burbank
And that Moved to Seattle, to Los Angeles, back to Seattle, multiple locations.
Andrew Walsh
Moved to New Hampshire, moved to.
Luke Burbank
Excuse me. How dare I leave out New Hampshire?
Andrew Walsh
Yes.
Luke Burbank
That's insane.
Andrew Walsh
It is insane. So I threw all that away, obviously. I got myself some fresh bullion, which I didn't use. Got myself a thing of chicken broth, which I didn't use, because what I bought that I did use during this clear liquid phase. And for folks who like this stuff, this is the key. Miso soup. You're already almost always drinking that anyway. You just leave out the tofu and the. And the seaweed. Seaweed. And it's just. It's just as, you know, it's wonderful. And that really got me through that day of fasting. Was I kind of just sipping on that stuff and some jello and a lot of liquids, and that was kind of fine. Drinking the souffle itself, not ideal. Here's how I would describe it. You know that I was telling you how much I love Gatorade anyway. I actually have to like kind of sort of repress my impulse to drink too much Gatorade or suppress, I guess I should say this is like kind of like bad, slightly saltier, slightly thicker Gatorade, which is not like you don't put that on the bottle. You're not trying to sell slightly saltier, slightly thicker Gatorade. But it's not the worst thing in the world. It doesn't taste like sewage or something like that. You don't have to hold your nose and drink it. It's not the most pleasant thing, but it's also not that pleasant because you're drinking it for the first time, thinking like, I don't know, I know generally speaking what this is going to do to me. I'm connecting the idea of drinking this stuff with rushing to the bathroom, which could happen at any moment. Like, there's just a lot going on in your mind about it. But you know what I kept thinking of as I'm drinking, like the. I don't know, my second or third dose of this, you have to drink it in like one cup increments, and there's four cups, it's a quart. You basically have to drink a quart the night before and a quart the morning of your colonoscopy. And you drink that quart in four one cup kind of doses sort of across an hour. I think they don't want you to chug the whole thing because you might just skyrocket into the space. And I started thinking, I was like, oh, this Isn't so bad. I had little. I had little candies standing by. They're like, you might need to drink candy after this because of the taste. Drink candy. You might have to eat candy after this or suck on a candy. So I went and I bought some Jolly Ranchers. I thought, oh, Jolly Ranchers will be the perfect thing during this period of not eating. Except you can't have red, blue, or purple dye. I thought for sure. I guess this is. I Berenstain bared this. I thought there was going to be, like, yellow, green, and orange Jolly Ranchers. No. The only ones in this entire giant bag I bought that I could eat were green.
Luke Burbank
I would have definitely told you that there is 100% A. Well, you can't do purple, obviously, but I would. I would have probably said, I think.
Andrew Walsh
That there's, like, an orange. Like a really?
Luke Burbank
An orange. Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
There is no orange. So anyway, so I get home, I open up my Jolly Ranchers. I'm like, oh, I guess I can only eat green, which is probably my least favorite flavor of those. I. I separate out the greens. Only green Jolly Ranchers. It says it in my writer, but those weren't, like, especially necessary. But, yeah, I kind of. I drank that stuff and I sort of thought, you know, what would Lachlan do in the White Lotus? Was that the Murdoch. Was that the kid's name?
Luke Burbank
Lachie?
Andrew Walsh
The kid we, like, remember how he was, like, drinking his brother's, like, protein shakes. One that'd be like, a boy.
Luke Burbank
Turns out.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. So I was kind of like, this can't be worse than most of those, like, weird shakes people drink before they go to the gym or something like that.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, right.
Andrew Walsh
You know, it's just like, I've never.
Luke Burbank
Had one of those, But I think that's a solid theory.
Andrew Walsh
You just separate it out from what you're. Why you're doing it. You know, you could even see a world. You know, it's like, oh, if I was on some health kick and somebody said, this is the health stuff you have to drink every morning. Yeah, you just get used to it pretty quickly. So I just had. I feel like the first few doses of that were the worst because I was so in my mind about it. I'm like, am I going to drink this? Like, I got to drink.
Luke Burbank
Is my butt going to fall off?
Andrew Walsh
Right? It did. Couple of times they sewed it back on.
Luke Burbank
Speaking of, without getting into the graphic details, was the bathroom. The amount of bathroom time you had to spend, was it worse than you expected? Not as bad as you expected about.
Andrew Walsh
What you expected, the amount of time was less. Because here was another thing that got in my head was they were saying in this kind of warning sheet, I'll call it, that says across the top, warning, colon, sheet, warning, you might sheet your pants. Exactly what I was going for there. Yeah. You know, they had things like, you know, make sure you take a towel in the car with you and put it on the car in case you can't hold your bowels on the way to the colonoscopy. I'm like, my God. So that just sort of put in my head. So from the moment I start drinking this stuff, I am going to be non stop uncontrollable.
Luke Burbank
It's going to be a cartoonish amount, a timinaric amount of bathroom stuff.
Andrew Walsh
Exactly. But, like, that's just not how it works. That's not how any of this works. You're not eating anything during this time. So, like, what happens is you drink the stuff and then. Yeah, pretty quickly you're, you know, I did. I guess it took at least an hour for it to kick in or for it to fully kick in. Because I wanted to. I had this thing is like, I wanted to have it all. I wanted to drink it all, the complete chord of it before the bathroom phase began. Because I didn't want to be sitting in the bathroom both drinking this stuff.
Luke Burbank
Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
And you didn't want to be like, at the same time, you don't want.
Luke Burbank
To be like one of those, like little desktop, like Zen fountains. The same water. It's just being recirculated. It's just like a perpetual hydrologic loop.
Andrew Walsh
So I had. And because I had just had on a very empty stomach, because I also had kind of a busy day on whatever the day on Wednesday. I had had that bowl of cereal in the morning, then absolutely nothing. And then had some miso soup, which, like, much later in the day. So already that was sort of sitting in my stomach getting a little bit rumbly tumbly. Then I started drinking this stuff, but I was like, just what do we say to souffle? Not today. I just kind of kept repressing it until I had, you know, or again suppressing it until I had completed the first quart of this stuff. And then by the time I went into the bathroom, the mind was willing, but the body was also willing. I just. It was, it was, it did what it was supposed to do. The floodgates opened and then, you know, you do have to stay put for a while. But probably more like, you know, maybe an hour, maybe 45 minutes. And then eventually you're like, okay, I can face the world. But then maybe for the next hour after that, you still might run to the bathroom or go to the bathroom a couple more times. But, like, pretty quickly, there's not a lot more to give. And so, like. And I'm like, oh, okay. And so then throughout the evening, I'm just like, you know, sipping a little bit of broth here and there, having a little bit of jello, but like, you're just not intaking a lot of stuff. So then by the next morning, you wake up, really, the only thing that's in your stomach is your second bottle of souffle. And so you drink that one and it just washes you out once again, just to make sure that there is nothing else in there. And then like. And I drank that so many hours before I was even supposed to go in that by the time I got in the car, it wasn't even a thought. Now, I've heard from some people who said, oh, yeah, actually I was a little bit nervous getting in the car. Mileage may vary, but I'm sort of telling this story because I had so much anxiety and after reading these prep. This prep material that I do want to like, kind of calm people a little bit who haven't tried it yet. Because your. Your story on this was so chill, bro, that I think it was a good PSA for people to get this done. I don't want to be the opposite of that. I'm really glad to be on the other side of this.
Luke Burbank
Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
And every step was exaggerated quite a bit because I think they felt like they had to cover all of their bases to warn you about the worst case scenario. But the worst case scenarios never really popped up. I'm not saying that I want to do this weekly. Like, I'm really glad to be on the other side of this. And of course, you know, the prep is the. Is the. Once you're there, it's like any other kind of like, outpatient procedure. Right. They're going to knock you out. I didn't love getting the needle in my arm, but it's no different, like, for the. What do you call it for the IV drip, you know, but it's no different than like, you know, giving some blood or whatever. I just get in my head about that. But that was like the most. That was the worst part of the whole thing for me. It was me telling them I'm not great with needles. So just like, you know, entertain me while you poke me.
Luke Burbank
So then once they had the IV running and you did all the questions and everything, and they're like wheeling you in for the procedure. What was your kind of your level of anxiety then?
Andrew Walsh
I think somewhat high. I know that when the doctor came in, she like, as I'm sitting in this little room, it's also just very weird. I. I'm sitting there in, you know, one of those robes or gowns or whatever. You just feel, you know, it's not my. It's not my. There's nobody's favorite place to be. I'm especially, I think, sort of feel maybe anxious in situations like that. So, you know, various people are coming in. Nurses are, you know, hooking me up to this or that, prepping me for this or that. Then the anesthesiologist comes in and she kind of gives me the rundown. Then the doctor comes in. And I think by this point, because I had told them I'm not great with needles with the IV thing, they started treating me a little bit with kid glove. These two nurses were. They were so scared of me, like fainting on them or something, which I never came close to fainting. But, like, they don't, you know, all they're going by is this guy says that he gets a little lightheaded sometimes. So they gave me some ice packs and everything. And I think I was just sort of like, I was just so ready for it to be done with. By the time the doctor came in, she said, oh, yeah, first timer. You have that look on your face or something like that. So I know that, like, people. I think I had a. I think I had a bit of a grim resolution about me. Probably I could hear while I'm waiting in this one area that is quasi private because they've drawn all these curtains around me. I can still hear doctors having conversations with other people who are going in for their various endo related procedures. Right. And I can fully hear the conversations other doctors are having with other patients. And I kind of didn't love that. So when the doctors came in to talk to me, I didn't like, get real chatty about it. I was just like, yes, no, like whatever. Like, I just wanted to get it over with. So I think I had this sort of a grim determination about me that probably most of the caregivers probably thought I might have been maybe a little bit more freaking out than I actually was. But eventually, you know, they walk me into the room, they have me lay on my side and and they said. And the biggest worry there for me is I always think they're not going to give me enough. I'm like, no, you don't understand. You got to give me a lot. Boy likes drugs. Give drugs. Like, I'm always. But so I just. The last thing I remember is laying on my side and looking.
Luke Burbank
They put the mask over your nose.
Andrew Walsh
This one wasn't so much a mask as it's like a little thing that goes around your ears and then little prongs go up your nose and.
Luke Burbank
But then counting backwards.
Andrew Walsh
No, they didn't know. They didn't even do that with me this time. They did that. Like, when I had my last surgery, this one was. And I was ready for that. They. They. They hooked me up to all that stuff, and they said, we're gonna confirm some things. Your name is this, you know? Yes.
Luke Burbank
Yeah. Did they do that thing? Did you. Every person you encounter, have you reconfirm your name? Like, they.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, yeah. And birth date. And so they did all that. And you're here for a colonoscopy? Yes. I'm like, yes. And I go, okay, we're just going to get this going. You might feel some coldness in your arm as we get the medicine going. And I remember at the moment being kind of nervous about that. I've had this type of anesthetic a couple of times, and it's never been a problem, but suddenly I was just sort of nervous in this case. And I just remember laying on my side looking at, like, the button on the nurse's shirt, because if you can imagine, she's sort of standing, and I'm laying on this table, and there's a button right in front of me. And the last thing I remember is looking at that button thinking, like, I really don't. I really don't think they're gonna give me enough of this stuff. And the last thing I remember was the button, you know, because again, they're warning you, like, there's a very rare chance you could wake up during this. And remember, some patients do remember. It doesn't usually happen. The doctor at one point said, you know, this is a very safe procedure. It's only one out of a thousand times that something could go wrong. And I started really doing the math. And then what? You're like, wow, that's actually much.
Luke Burbank
And, you know, I'm a special guy.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. And I'm like, I don't have the best luck.
Luke Burbank
I'm one in a thousand.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, sure. I'm. I'm one of a thousand. So anyway, I. I guess I was starting to get in my head a little bit, but I don't know. But once the, you know, once you're in there, you're just sort of like, I just can't wait for the drugs to kick in. And then you. That's the last thing you remember. And then I woke up, and I tried to make a funny when I woke up, which I don't know how it went. I just remember telling the nurse as I was waking up, she's like, how you feeling? I'm like, I remember saying, God, I don't even know how this came out on drugs. I remember saying, do you know if they put the plaque for best patient ever back here or out in the waiting room for everybody to see?
Luke Burbank
That is the most answer.
Andrew Walsh
I say this with.
Luke Burbank
I say this with love and admiration. That is the most Andrew joke. How. How did you have to, like, did you have to do an Adam Scott from Severance where you burned that into your brain before you went into the procedure so that you would remember it? No, that was severed floor.
Andrew Walsh
No, that was. That was. That was. That was freewheeling, Bob. Yeah. Wow.
Luke Burbank
I thought maybe you planned that before, and then you were just, like, trying to get it through to the other side of your procedure so that you would remember it.
Andrew Walsh
No, I didn't have that much forethought. I just remember I will. I give her credit for Riff, and she said, no, we're going to send it to you. I was like, oh, that's actually pretty funny. Yeah, that's pretty good. Probably not. Maybe. Maybe they. I just think that they deal with a lot of dad humor probably in those situations, so they know how to handle it. But anyway, yeah, so everything went really well, and I'm glad. I will. Oh, one other thing that was sort of relevant to your interests are related to the story that you told with your whole experience of this, which is kind of the phase I'm in now. When you got your colonoscopy, I believe it was the next day during tbtl, you seemed, I don't think to the listeners, they would have noticed, but I even noticed, like, you seemed very distracted. You weren't laughing at my hilarious jokes about best patient certificates, and you didn't seem very distracted, but you were. I could just tell something was off. And then the next day, you opened up on the show and said, I was really distracted during the show yesterday because I had gotten some early results about my colonoscopy. And you found them to be like, really alarming because you were trying to dig into this medical language. And then I believe it was later that evening or something, you got the note from the doctor that interpreted all of that and said, you're good to go. And you had learned a lesson, like, don't, first of all, open medical results during tbtl, and secondly, don't try to interpret them without your doctor's notes. Right.
Luke Burbank
Yes, that is exactly what happened. Have you gotten that info yet?
Andrew Walsh
Well, I thought.
Luke Burbank
And are you currently opening it?
Andrew Walsh
What I thought was interesting was they asked me I might have that information, and I haven't opened it. But ahead of time, Luke, they asked me, and I don't think I would have known how to answer this without you telling me that story. The nurse, as she was prepping me, was going through all the details, and she said, now, there's a way you can get the results. If we have to kind of remove any polyps or anything and biopsy them, you can get the results immediately from the lab and then have the doctor's interpretation come once the doctors put eyes on it. Or we can hold back and send it to you all at the same time with both the results and the doctor's interpretation. And I was like, oh, that's exactly. Because once you kind of realized your circumstances, we realized it was about some sort of medical disclosure law. Right. It was actually some legal thing like the lab passed.
Luke Burbank
Right. I think somebody clarified. Yeah, yeah. And that's part of some patient's bill of rights or something.
Andrew Walsh
Sure.
Luke Burbank
Which is one of those kind of things where it's like sort of the law of unintended consequences. Like, this idea is that, like, patients should have all of the information. We shouldn't be waiting for these gatekeepers or having to only take their opinion on the matter. We should get the raw data. But then the fact of the matter is, most of us, at least me, we don't know how to interpret the raw data exactly.
Andrew Walsh
Right. Or I'm doing my own. It's like it just has a real I'm doing my own research sort of vibe. Right. So I really appreciated. That's a good policy giving me that policy. And I don't know that I would have even understood the significance of it had you not explained your situation. So all I know is afterwards they told me we found two, like, very small polyps. Like, we're sending them in, but. But they just seemed very unconcerned about that thing. They also said they found something called a chicken jockey. I don't know what That. I don't know what that is, but apparently they were very excited about that.
Luke Burbank
Did you explain Feasar Freest. Sorry. Freezer Feast to them that could be related.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, that's a. That's a Stouffer's Chicken Jockey in there.
Luke Burbank
Yeah. Some respect on its name. So anyway, that's been there since football season.
Andrew Walsh
It'll. It'll pass. It'll be ready by the preseason. But anyway, so they seem very unconcerned. And right now I do have a message waiting for me in my chart. And so I don't know if that is accompanied by a doctor's note or not, but, like, I'm feeling like I'll check it out after. After the show. But they seemed, you know, pretty. Pretty unconcerned. So I'm pretty, pretty. And they did give me. They mentioned very briefly, like, oh, you're prepping. You did well in your prep or something. I feel like they. I feel like they know now that people really want to hear that. I didn't even ask, but they were just gonna. Threw that out there. And it sounds like almost everybody kind of gets that. Atta boy. Unless they do something really wrong.
Luke Burbank
Well, that was the last question I had for you because you are, you know, you do like a good attaboy here and there. And. And I did not get this from my.
Andrew Walsh
From.
Luke Burbank
From my provider. I did not get a compliment that was like, you've had. Sir, you had the. We've seen really clean colons, and we've seen pristine colons. And then, sir, there's your colon. Like, which some other people. I believe our friend P. Fletch might have gotten a. A real high five on that. Other people were, I'm gonna be honest with you, bragging. Other people were bragging about, you know, their. How. How complimentary the staff was. I did not get a compliment. They were able to do the procedure on me. So it was obviously like things were fine enough for them to do what they needed to do. But I didn't get, like. There weren't people gathered around me, like, you know, maybe I had seen a vision of the Virgin Mary in a tortilla and they were there to touch the hem of my robe, which is what I was kind of looking for. Did you get that sort of response?
Andrew Walsh
Did they give you. It was oops, all berries. After your. After years, they just sort of mentioned. I think again, I was sort of in a fog. I was waking up. I will say this. The effect of the drugs afterwards lasted with me. I feel like Longer than I remembered from other surgeries and procedures. I remember feeling. I thought I was going to come out of this feeling very elated and almost euphoric.
Luke Burbank
That's kind of how I felt.
Andrew Walsh
Hungry. And that's how a lot of people say they felt. And I felt that way after other things before. I remember Genevieve wheeling me out of most places don't even let you walk out. Has been my experience. They. They. Because again, of probably laws or official procedures.
Luke Burbank
Liability.
Andrew Walsh
Liability. They have to wheel you out, you know. No, they were just like, yeah, go ahead. It was like the most wobbly I've ever been. And the most. That they were like, go ahead.
Luke Burbank
You.
Andrew Walsh
You got this. And I'm like, thank you.
Luke Burbank
Huh.
Andrew Walsh
So I was still.
Luke Burbank
I wonder if that's because you kept begging them to up your dose.
Andrew Walsh
I do wonder if I kept saying that. I do wonder if I at some.
Luke Burbank
Point was the anesthesiologist standing on the other side of the room with a tranquilize hunting you like a bear.
Andrew Walsh
I liked things. I was just.
Luke Burbank
Kept shooting. You were up that tree. They brought out that trampoline. They were trying to get something soft for you to fall on.
Andrew Walsh
I will say the room was pretty disheveled, actually, when I woke up, now that I think about it. Apparently I kept saying, hulk smash. I don't know what that means.
Luke Burbank
That's really funny that you. I mean, that you're. Because, you know, you were saying that like, you. Maybe you were worried about not. Not being knocked out enough and that you, you know, you think you might have a high tolerance to various things, and yet this really kind of. This really did a number on you. Whereas I had the opposite experience. Like, I felt pretty much myself Maybe three minutes into the ride home. Becca drove me home, you know, and I was like, I felt pretty fine. This was pretty minor for me.
Andrew Walsh
That's how I used. That's how I felt again the few times that I've had something like this before this time. And I also expected. So I guess maybe the last interesting point here is everybody wants to know what was your first meal? Right? Because when you're fasting the day before, I said I was like a guy in a Vietnam movie, like, talking to my buds about everything I'm going to do when I get back home to the States. I was like, sitting on my couch, like, just, like, really hungry on, I guess, Wednesday night, I'm going to get.
Luke Burbank
Me a Cadillac and I'm gonna get me a real pretty girl, and then we're going to go and have a T bone stick.
Andrew Walsh
Luke. I was like, I was sending my buddies videos of the Chili's I love my baby back ribs commercial. Like, I was like, I. For some reason, I was really fixated on Chili's on Wednesday night. I was like, I don't care. I'm going to get out of that. I'm going to be feel. Feeling so good. I'm gonna have Genevieve drive me to a Chili's. I'm gonna get something called wingdingers or rib poppers. I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I just cannot wait for that. And I'll be honest with you, I got out of it. I was still, like, kind of. I'll bet you I didn't have that euphoric feeling because I don't fast all that often. And I think I was just like. I think maybe the underlying stress of all of this and the fact that I did it all on a very, very empty stomach, and I was so hungry and my stomach had probably shrunk a bit or whatever, just like, I was so flushed out that when I got in the car, I was just like, no, just. Let's just go home. Like, I don't want to. The idea of eating anything hearty seemed so unappealing to me. So unappealing. Luke. I came home. I was. I got in the car. I was like, I'm not even hungry right now. By the end of the car ride home, maybe, I don't know, 20 minute, 30 minutes later, I was feeling hungry as I walked in the house. But the only thing I could possibly bring myself to eat was more miso broth. And a thing of. I did end up having a thing of, like, just Campbell's chicken.
Luke Burbank
Red jello.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I just went. Because you could red jello. I just buried my face in it. Yeah. Motorboated it. I. No, I just had a thing of Campbell's chicken noodle soup. Like, classic Campbell's chicken noodle soup with some club crackers, which I told my friends yesterday. It's like, for some reason, I think of club crackers as Ritz crackers. For parent. For grandparents who play bridge. Like, why do, like, club crackers just have this, like, 1980s grandparents? Like, we went over. We smoke a lot. We went to our friend's place to play bridge, and there were club crackers there. I don't know.
Luke Burbank
I will tell you what's also in that living room. A TV tray. Yes, 100%. Those are probably sitting on a TV tray near a recliner.
Andrew Walsh
But Yeah, I had some, like, I had some crack. I just had the most mild, mild little thing of soup. And then I ended up eating a lot more of the green jello. I was like, well, I'm gonna throw this away. I don't need it anymore. I was like, well, maybe I'll have a couple of bites of it. And then I just ate. I don't even think I like jello, but I think my body was still just sort of, I don't know, just sort of in this weird score mode. Yeah, just a weird mode. Like, I don't know, I'd love to hear from people. Because you said you had a smoothie after years, right?
Luke Burbank
No, I had. Becca made me like a. A thing that. You know, again, this actually sort of to your point because I feel like when I told you this, or maybe I'm just. I'm assuming the listeners were like, oh, that doesn't sound as fun as we were hoping for. Because what it was was like this really yummy rice and tofu and like edamame bean thing. But it was like it was very salty in a good way and flavorful, but very kind of like in. Also in a certain way, I guess you could say mild.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Like it wasn't like a. It wasn't a big, you know, giant. I don't know what my celebratory thing would be, but it wasn't a giant cheeseburger, you know, or something. It was something that. And she was. Because she's smart. Probably was like, it might be nice to ease this guy back into food, but it was so. It was very tasty but also kind of gentle on the stomach.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. And then I really wasn't. And then I was. I came downstairs and I ended up sleeping some more by the time I got home. It really. One of the reasons I was. I'm feeling better now, actually had my first cup of coffee in days right before the show. So I'm actually probably talking a mile a minute. But I was still groggy. I ate that soup. I came downstairs and it was like 5 o' clock in the evening and I fell back asleep and I slept until like, I think I had like a 90 minute nap in the kind of early evening. Which is a dangerous game, Daniel, because then I couldn't sleep last night. But like, I don't know, I was just like, I'm just going to do what my body tells me to do and it's telling me to sleep of some more. So I just went back to sleep after eating that Soup. And then I stayed up until like three in the morning. I think I got into the pretzels around 2 in the morning, so. Don't worry, don't worry. We're back on the carb loading before I fall back, baby. Yeah.
Luke Burbank
So what, did you have any. Did you have some breakfast today?
Andrew Walsh
No, I'm not a big breakfast guy.
Luke Burbank
I know. I just think coming off that, like you, you know, your body is, is literally eating itself. Well, dangerously low on hot dogs.
Andrew Walsh
I ate a lot of pretzel rods last night. I probably.
Luke Burbank
Okay, okay.
Andrew Walsh
Seven pretzel rods before. Right before going to bed.
Luke Burbank
So you've gotten some fuel back in your system. But I mean, honestly, for you to not basically eat for a day, if not longer, and then to have just a can of soup, that's not a lot of food for a growing boy.
Andrew Walsh
It was really weird. Yesterday was just really. The past few days have just been kind of weird days for me. I do feel good today. I just want to reiterate one more time. Quick business note here. I'm not sending out a TBTL newsletter today, so I am excited not to be the laziest boy in the world. Know a lot of people get colonoscopies. It's not like I don't deserve a pat on the back or any special dispensations, but I'm giving myself one anyway, which is when we're done with tbtl today I'm done for the week and so I'm not sending out a newsletter.
Luke Burbank
You're. By tonight, you'll be, I hope, back to your normal self, enjoying the classic rivalry game.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, are you talking about the better cup?
Luke Burbank
Oh, man, everybody's talking about the Vetter Cup.
Andrew Walsh
I'm going to go sign up for Apple TV plus right now so I can watch the Vetter cup tonight. I think I'm just a Royals fan now. Honestly.
Luke Burbank
Honestly, we'll never be Royals. We was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark.
Andrew Walsh
Get set, get set now.
Luke Burbank
Ready, ready, go. Everybody.
Andrew Walsh
Razzle dazzle.
Luke Burbank
Hey, let's thank some dazzling donors. These folks are donating a dazzling amount of dough. It is the only way that this show can exist. 100% listener supported podcasting, thanks to Carolyn Curly in Encinitas, California.
Andrew Walsh
Carolyn, a very familiar name. And Carolyn, just north of.
Luke Burbank
Just just north of classic Seattle rivals the San Diego Padres. They're in north San Diego County. Carolyn says, dear lovelies, hey, you know what? That has A nice ring to it. Dear Lovelies.
Andrew Walsh
I love that. Yeah.
Luke Burbank
This next time you're trying to write hey dummies, just take a moment and think, dear Lovelies. I should have written Dear Lovely to whoever it was I was calling a dummy all those years.
Andrew Walsh
All those years ago. But then what would we call our video series?
Luke Burbank
Hey Lovelies wouldn't be Quite as.
Andrew Walsh
No.
Luke Burbank
Quite as. I don't know. Endearing, enticing. TBTL is my favorite podcast since 2009. It's going way back, Carolyn. That's. That's the. Those are the early days.
Andrew Walsh
Well, not to like, take. Not, not to like undermine that, but have there been any other podcasts since 2009? Has anybody released any new podcast?
Luke Burbank
I'm trying to think. Oh, you mean since then. Yeah, I thought you meant going back to.
Andrew Walsh
No, I'm trying to think like since 2009. Tal was already out, right? This American Life was already podcasting at that point. Oh, I think a Conan o' Brien one came out.
Luke Burbank
Nothing's. Nothing's coming to mind. Currently, as far as new podcasts, Carolyn says, I am promoting my book. It's called the Guidance Groove. Escape unproductive habits, trust your intuition and be true. God, I would like to do all of those things.
Andrew Walsh
Well, I know the book for you.
Luke Burbank
It's designed to help you achieve more contentment, ease, and openness and let go of the stories created in your mind that trick you into being anxious, afraid, and discontented. I describe four unproductive grooves that prevent contentment and trap us into believing that resources are scarce and we are inadequate, obligated, or unworthy. I'm a biology professor at UC San Diego. I remember this and I teach the book as a seminar and it's a joy to help my students realize they can rewire their brains and learn to be content. I have to say that, like, this is something that I constantly struggle with and I'm constantly trying to reframe my thinking on of just like, you know, I'm not. I don't. I don't think of myself as an anxious person. But I think a lot of the behaviors that I do and a lot of the. I think I'm low key, an anxious person, even though again, I don't talk about it a lot and I don't identify as such and I have to constantly kind of go back to reminding myself that we do not know the future. And also, I mean, that's it more for me than the past. I don't have a lot of regret around things that have happened. But I think I do have a lot of, of anxiety about how things might go in the future. And, and it's, it's. And you get trapped in that thinking and it can make you feel really anxious. And I, so I, I might have to get this book or take the class. I may have to, I may have to move to San Diego, Andrew, and enroll at Carolyn's college there, UC San Diego, and see if I can learn how to unwire these things. It's definitely something that I do.
Andrew Walsh
I just don't know if you and I can be friends, though, if you're in San Diego and I'm in Seattle and that because of the rivalry, the intense rivalry between the two cities and baseball teams.
Luke Burbank
Bonus points to all TBTL fans who figure out which story in the book is inspired by Luke's life.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. Wow. Are you getting points on the back end on that?
Luke Burbank
Better be. I think these are the points Carolyn is donating to the show. This is our compensation. We will take it. Thank you. Luke and Andrew is there. There's like a made up guy named Duke who gets someone pregnant at 17.
Andrew Walsh
Duke Lurbank. Sounds familiar.
Luke Burbank
Thank you, Luke and Andrew, for your willingness to let us into your lives as it makes us all feel more connected. You've grown so much over the years. I love you and I'm grateful for you. You can learn more, by the way, about Carolyn's book@guidancegroove.com guidancegroove.com and I think that this is a, this is a very good, I think, a necessary book for people who like this show because the kind of person, I think, who identifies with us, Andrew, and who, you know, listens to this day in, day out, I don't think they're an underthinker. You know, I don't think we have many underthinkers in the audience because the underthinkers are just off living their lives. Yeah, they're off just kind of having what I assume is a generally uncomplicated existence, which I'm quite envious of.
Andrew Walsh
I don't know if anybody has an uncomplicated existence.
Luke Burbank
Fair. But I'm just saying this is a show, I think that has attracted a kind of a person who tends to be in their own head a lot. Probably that's why they like the show because it lets them get out of their own head for up to 60, 60 to 80 minutes a day. So I think these are a lot of folks that could probably benefit from this book. So thanks, Carolyn. Appreciate you Maestro, on your mark. On your mark. Get set. Well, well, well. Ready, go. If it's not the toilet paper queen of Jacksonville, Florida.
Andrew Walsh
Is that how you want to be known? Lauren.
Luke Burbank
Lauren Castelli. I can't remember if it was. I think it was toilet paper. I don't think it was. It might have been paper towel or maybe toilet. I think it was toilet paper.
Andrew Walsh
Toilet. Because she, at least at the time. I'm not sure what Lauren's doing these days.
Luke Burbank
Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
Was in charge of like kind of paper products at a large Home Depot concern or something like that. I'm sorry, Lauren, I'm. I'm totally messing up your canon here.
Luke Burbank
Well, here's part of the reason, because remember when this conversation happened, it was during the 24 hour vaniversary show, which is insane that that happened. We got into a van. Well, like a fancy, like sprinter van with a driver and Corey Schreppel.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Hiding in the back. And we just drove around broadcasting for 24 hours. We went to my house in Bellingham. We went out to pick up. Up Jen. We had Sean there. We had a roving, rotating cast of folks. But Lauren called in because we could also take phone calls. I mean that. Honestly, we should be more proud that that worked.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, yeah. Get the same triple. Everybody needs a shrepel.
Luke Burbank
Get the. To a shrepel, but a different day. That'd be a good show title. But we already have the Booty keeps the score.
Andrew Walsh
That's right.
Luke Burbank
But anyway, Lauren called into that and I. What I remember the story being was that Lauren worked somewhere where they bought large amounts of like in like, you know, they had. Maybe they. They had either they serviced a number of facilities and they changed out the, like the paper products in the bathrooms or something. There were some. And every once in a while they would measure. They would unroll a roll of toilet paper to make sure they weren't getting shorted.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. Like the vendors, whoever was providing them with the things, I believe they were selling. I think they would unroll long, long things and measure them out and make sure that they were actually getting what they paid for.
Luke Burbank
Now I have to ask you a question, Andrew. Either I'm having flashbacks from my colonoscopy, or you picked these two messages because they both, after the city say dear love these to us.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, I did not pick. I did not pick.
Luke Burbank
I want to say I mispronounced Carolyn's. I misstated Carolyn sing. Carolyn did not say dear lovelies. Carolyn said dear lovies. I and Lauren Castelli pronounced chevre by Lauren's own description. So let me just. Let's just rewind this tape a little bit. Carolyn in Encinita says, dear Lovies, and then goes on to talk about what she wants to talk about. And now our other dazzling donor, Lauren Castelli of Jacksonville, Florida, says, dear Lovies.
Andrew Walsh
That is a coincidence because I didn't even pull these in order. I just kind of had to pull them very quickly from our list of dazzling donors today. And I was sort of looking at length, I think, and I did not realize that I picked two dazzling donor messages that both begin with the greeting dear Lovies. That is.
Luke Burbank
That's. I mean, I don't know if we've had any messages this year that have said dear Lovies.
Andrew Walsh
And then we get any chance that in copying and pasting, either John or I did something that made this happen.
Luke Burbank
Lauren, if you're hearing this, can you confirm. And also, Carolyn, can you confirm that you wrote dear Lovies in your message? I would really like this to be true.
Andrew Walsh
My mind is kind of blown. Good catch on that. Wow.
Luke Burbank
So here's what. What else Lauren says, Ahoy hoy, biz boys. I keep thinking I'll have a stroke of inspiration and write an incredibly eloquent, heartfelt, and hilarious message, but it hasn't happened yet. And John pretty much hates me right now. Huh. A winky emoji. I can't imagine that would be true.
Andrew Walsh
Lord, those two have a history. I think this is a reference. I think it started with, like, some sort of a personal loan gone bad or something. So there's a lot of bad blood there.
Luke Burbank
But what I can say, Lauren, is that each week when we have our TBTB meeting, it starts with the reading of the minutes. And the second thing is John listing all the listeners he hates. Yeah. And you were not on the list this week.
Andrew Walsh
No, that. That's right. You.
Luke Burbank
You were.
Andrew Walsh
You.
Luke Burbank
Notably absent from the list.
Andrew Walsh
Down the list, actually, that you dropped.
Luke Burbank
Officially fell off the list this week. So.
Andrew Walsh
No, I think Lauren just probably sent this a little bit later than maybe we had originally asked or something. But it's not a big deal.
Luke Burbank
We appreciate Lauren.
Andrew Walsh
We appreciate you very much.
Luke Burbank
Lauren says. So this year, I'll just say that I love you guys and the 10 so, so much. Please keep the fun going another year. We need you. A good luck to all. And please, if you will play the Cooking with Shonda Tori theme while you read this.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, that's on me. I'm sorry. Do you have there. Yeah, I didn't pre read it. Doggone. This is really on me now.
Luke Burbank
Here we go. Let me play this. Let me get this going here. We've got it. I really love how the. The entire time signature changes for that.
Andrew Walsh
Piano for that little bridge keyboard or whatever that is.
Luke Burbank
P.S. if anybody remembers the hello most of you drop and what it comes from, please let me know. I think it's from the 2015 ish era. Hello, most of you. Do you remember? Does that drop?
Andrew Walsh
Here's the thing. I can't remember if this is something that we've. I feel like we already did this on the show. I know that Lauren and I have gone back and forth, I think like last year or a couple years ago about this drop. I think she was texting me saying like, can you help me identify this drop? I have no idea what this drop is. Hello, most of you. I have no idea what that is. I thought I had asked you about it too, Luke, but I can't remember right now. But it doesn't ring a bell to you either, huh?
Luke Burbank
No, it sounds like. It sounds like it would be from that drop of the guy saying, you know, said another way I'm. Well, who's the guy? He's like. He's like. He's doing some bad corporate comedy.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, that's workaholic, that is. My name is Eric.
Luke Burbank
They call me Cool Eric guy one time.
Andrew Walsh
Exactly. That's the drop your thing of.
Luke Burbank
But I don't feels like it's in that universe of like hello most of you sounds like a kind of from an. A cringy kind of corporate environment, the office type of thing. But that's. Yeah, that's it. I don't have a specific memory of it.
Andrew Walsh
Me, I have no memory of it other than that this must be. I mean it's kind of driving me bananas now too. And I don't even remember. I can't think of how Lauren gets. I don't know. I don't understand how Lauren measures any toilet paper these days. Knowing that this has been dogging her for years now.
Luke Burbank
Well, it's become her full time. Not just her passion, Andrew, not just her avocation, but her vocation is trying to find this drop. So let's help Lauren. If you know what. Hello most of you, if you know where that came from, let us know so we can let Lauren know. Lauren says it lives in my head though, and it makes me laugh constantly. I would love to find it. Well, we would love to help you find that Lauren.
Andrew Walsh
And.
Luke Burbank
And we really appreciate your awesome support both financially. But Just as a friend of the show for all these years. So thank you very much. We couldn't do this without you and.
Andrew Walsh
Hope your fam's doing well.
Luke Burbank
Have you seen these new Seahawks ads that they just released, Andrew?
Andrew Walsh
No, I have no idea.
Luke Burbank
Oh yeah, you've been in a little bit of a. You've been otherwise occupied, as it were. They just, they've. They dropped. Actually, I have to be honest with you. I think one of them is very clever. They're like the basic. They look like, like an early 1990s, maybe late 80s, early 1990s, like GI Joe commercial. Like something like Transformers meets GI Joe. Like that kind of commercial that would play on after school cartoons that was very much intended for like a. Probably a kind of a boy of a certain age where you've got people playing with the toys, you know, kind of making them fight that.
Andrew Walsh
I always say on the after these Messages podcast, that's one of my favorite things from old kids toys commercials that I don't think they do anymore, or at least as much, which is just like you literally see the kids hands and they're saying, bang, bang. I got you, Cobra Commander.
Luke Burbank
Yes. So they're doing that exact thing. I'm going to try to play this, but I think it might be from their Instagram page. So it's like, of course, impossible to play. But this is how they announced their schedule. So this isn't even the commercial that I'm.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, yeah.
Luke Burbank
Did you hear about this?
Andrew Walsh
No. I just know that the teams have been getting really clever in the past few years with their schedule announcements and a lot of them have gone viral in very fun ways.
Luke Burbank
So I'm having a little trouble because where I'm finding this right now is from the Seahawks website. Let me just put in Seahawks schedule announcement. What they did is they basically made like a pretend toy commercial that involves the toys of the teams they're playing, if that makes sense. So like, let me see. And.
Andrew Walsh
And if you don't.
Luke Burbank
Oh, you got. Yeah, you should play.
Andrew Walsh
I think so. It looks like this is a. This is a long one. This is like a two minute version of it, but I think this is what you're talking about. Let's give this a shot here.
Luke Burbank
Spoon is back and he's making noise.
Andrew Walsh
We in Seattle, baby.
Luke Burbank
Yes, sir.
Andrew Walsh
Shout out to the 12s y' all know how we.
Luke Burbank
But he's under attack. It's the Minnesota Viking, the Tampa Bay Buccaneer and the Arizona Cardinal. Is Spoon cooked? No, it's Hawks legend Steve Largent. With for the 50th, we're bringing you an all pro squad of action packed legends like Tez Rex with Dino power tail whip and super sized Big Wal Jones. Now that sketchy cat from the Jags is littering on the field. We don't do no littering over here, man. Put your trash in the garbage.
Andrew Walsh
Go Hawks.
Luke Burbank
Uh oh. It's the Falcons, Saints, Panthers, Colts, Texans, Commanders, Steelers, and the mighty Tennessee Titans. But they're no match for Bam Bam Cam's Bam Bam.
Andrew Walsh
Bam.
Luke Burbank
And who's riding along? It's Marshawn.
Andrew Walsh
Get off me now. Luke, is this the one that you heard or is this a different version or a longer version?
Luke Burbank
That's a. That's a longer version, but that's the one that I heard. That's not the one that was triggering to me, by the way. That's a totally different thing. Okay, but it's kind of from the same. I thought that was a sort of a clever way to roll out the season. Now here's what I will say. I have no idea who they're playing.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, it's like, it's too cacophonous for me.
Luke Burbank
It's too much going on. Like what I'd really like, you know, I really like a list of the teams they're playing and if it's home or on the road and then also what time. That would be a really good way for me to know about the upcoming season.
Andrew Walsh
Now, the one I. Somebody resurfaced one from two years ago. I think that might be the gold standard in these sort of viral release video schedule release videos, which I think was. For. I think it was the Jaguars 2023 schedule. And they went out somewhere in the. Whatever the city was. They went out to like the main drag where you had a bunch of young kind of partying people.
Luke Burbank
Oh, I remember this.
Andrew Walsh
And they were just flashing them like logos of these. The opposing teams.
Luke Burbank
Helmets.
Andrew Walsh
Helmets and no logos. The one I saw was definitely logos. And then they had to guess one of them was just the Cleveland Browns helmet, which is their logo, which confused the interviewee. And it was just hilarious. These people who have no idea what they're looking at saying, just making up the wrong teams. And then they put it together in a. It was so well edited.
Luke Burbank
That's a very. That was a very clever idea. Definitely. This is now the. It's a Seahawks commercial, but it's remembering the Kingdome bathrooms and what it is like a fake commercial for like a little kind of like diorama of The Of a Kingdome bathroom. And. And then. And then showing you different. And again, it's like there are, like, characters. There's, you know, like toys and stuff. Here, let me play it for you. This one I actually do have here. Say, Dave, take a listen. Remember the bathrooms at the Kingdome. Now you can relive all those memories with the Kingdom Men's restroom playset, including an overflowing trash can, powder, soap, and a double wide urinal trough. To really pack them in, include 390 stats. Imagine them complaining about getting flagged for being too loud while washing their hands at the signature circular scene. Kingdome's restroom playset. The bathrooms weren't nice, but they were memorable. Urinal cakes and powdered soap sold separately.
Andrew Walsh
Batteries concluded. That is wonderful. That speaks right to.
Luke Burbank
It's pretty funny.
Andrew Walsh
And it's.
Luke Burbank
It's accurate. Yes, it's accurate. They got the. You know, there was famously the. The circular sinks that you would stand. Now, now, here's the thing. You want to talk about Mandela effect. In my mind as a little kid, I had actually somehow turned that into. The urinals were circular.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, that was very weird.
Luke Burbank
It'd be insane. It would be totally insane. You'd be peeing into a circle. But like, I remember those sinks from being a kid. But then I remember later, one of the reasons. By the way, listener Brian also sent me this on Instagram this morning, and he said something to the effect of those bathrooms. I could find the exact thing he said, basically, those bathrooms traumatized a whole generation of Seattle of young Seattle boys, who then became very. Let's see, here's what Brian said. The Kingdome raised an entire generation of shy bladders in the Northwest because those bathrooms are so traumatizing.
Andrew Walsh
But.
Luke Burbank
But also for me, I had somehow taken the circular sink concept and in my mind, I misremembered it as, no, you pee into, like, there's a urinal that's circular. And it just added to this overall sense of dread about having to use the restroom facility at the Kingdome. And I do think was part of why I was trying so, so hard that fateful day to not go up and use the facilities in the Kingdome when I had a number two situation happening. And of course, that ended very poorly, as everybody who listens to the show knows.
Andrew Walsh
Can I just say, you know, I'm nodding along here and saying, yes, yes, as if I've been to the King Dome bathroom before. I have.
Luke Burbank
You almost have from seeing that commercial.
Andrew Walsh
Well, I will say, but I mean, there's so much about this that is also just very reminiscent of these types of bathrooms of my youth as well. This exact sink. My father had one of these in the shop that I, you know, that he really.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, a circle.
Andrew Walsh
Yes, exactly like this with that crunchy soap I had to clean as I got older. I had to cle that thing when I was kind of doing the janitorial services for the. For the company. That's very classic. And also, I'm pretty sure the original. The original Cleveland stadium, I think it was called.
Luke Burbank
Sure.
Andrew Walsh
Or no, wait, that was the.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, no, Cleveland Paul Brown Stadium.
Andrew Walsh
I'm trying to remember what it's called growing up, because I don't want to get it confused with the arena in Richmond. But anyway, yeah, like, whatever the Cleveland Brown Stadium was, it was like very, very similar to this. Those big tin troughs that you would pee in. Like, this is like this just. And then to see it, like kind of portrayed as one of these, like, you see these little action figure, just normal guys just using the restroom or whatever. This is. Well, well done.
Luke Burbank
Cleveland Municipal Stadium.
Andrew Walsh
That's a Cleveland Municipal Stadium.
Luke Burbank
Now, was that sink in the bathroom at Walsh Manufacturing? Was it out on the floor because you had to wash your hands if they got a bunch of grease on them or something?
Andrew Walsh
No, no, it was in the bathroom. Well, there was like a. I'll see if my dad has any photos or anything, but it was like there was sort of a lot there was out in the shop area. And again, for people who don't know, this is kind of a steel fabrication kind of shop situation. Very rust belty, if you will. And when you go out into the shop part, you would walk in and it was actually this big locker room area because I think some guys would come in and maybe change into their. Into their, you know, you work uniforms there, so they have to, you know, drive home in their greasy clothes or whatever. And then when you went further back into the locker room was an actual restroom. But in the middle of the locker room area where you would wash your hands after going to the bathroom was this giant round that almost pebbled kind of material sink or whatever. And then the. You would hit one button and it would make with a fountain water come out of the center of it.
Luke Burbank
It sounds like this Walsh Manufacturing sounds like a more robust operation than I have perceived it to be. If they needed a circular sink. So many people were washing their hands. How many people work there? Like 20 maybe.
Andrew Walsh
No more than that. I think closer to maybe 40 or 50 or something.
Luke Burbank
Wow. That's a pretty. That's a pretty. I like a locker room. This is. I'm impressed, man. Although I have been to the website of the current version, which is also very impressive. But you said that the latest version is really scaled up, right?
Andrew Walsh
The. The website. I haven't been to the facilities in years and years. I mean, it's. You wouldn't. You wouldn't walk in and be necessarily. I mean, you know, it was. It was a big. Yeah, it was kind of cool. I don't know what I'm trying to say here. And we're running out of time. Yeah. I liked. I. I'm glad I had that experience working up. Working there. Growing up, there was like this. There are a lot of nooks and crannies of this place. There was like. I had a job similar to yours, which was like, sorting pipe fittings and putting them all back in their places or bolts. And, you know, guys would come back from jobs with just buckets of leftover bolts and everything. I have to, like, sort them out. And there's this big mezzanine area. There are a lot of places I could go hide and eat my baloney sandwiches because I was scared of all the men who work.
Luke Burbank
It was like when I worked at Gene Johnson Plumbing and Joe Dahl and I would hide all day from the plumbers because we were also terrified of them, and we didn't want to do any work, and we just wanted to not be around when somebody was like, hey, somebody come help move this. We want it to be not seen and not heard.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Speaking of not being seen and not being heard, I think we've arrived at the end of our broadcast week. Andrew, I'm. I'm happy to tell you your race is run, sir.
Andrew Walsh
Yes.
Luke Burbank
Once the show is posted, you can blissfully slide into your weekend and. And do whatever you want, sir. And eat whatever color of dye your heart. Your little heart desires.
Andrew Walsh
You're gonna drink the dye directly now? I mean, the last big question for me is, and did we get an answ answer for this? For. For you. Do you know the next time you're. You're recommended to go in for your second one? Because it could be 10 years for me. It could be five, or it could be three.
Luke Burbank
Based on what they find, I should know this. I think I might have gotten a five. A fiver.
Andrew Walsh
Fiverr.
Luke Burbank
I'm hoping they got five on it. I've got. I've got to look tenor. I mean, tenor, obviously. Seems like that's the best case because that means they have their. Their assessment is that that, is that this is. We don't need it. There's. There's nothing going on here. You know, and obviously as you go down, the assumption is they're like, well, you should keep an eye on it. I think I might be a five. I should, I should. I should warg back into the KP portal and see what they actually told me.
Andrew Walsh
I feel like I would have to have like some sort of a. Like, literally, they'd have to find Mr. Clean down there in order for me to get a tenor. I'm. I'm guessing they're going to put me on a five.
Luke Burbank
I was honestly pretty psyched about five. Yeah, I. I was psyched about it not being. Get back down here if it was, but boy, are you still in the car.
Andrew Walsh
Turn around. There's a. You can make a U turn at that intersection up there. If it's a tenor, that means I'm not going back in until I'm almost 60 years old, which is something.
Luke Burbank
Do you think we'll still be. Do you think our goal should be to still be doing this show when you get your tenor?
Andrew Walsh
Yes, I think so. I was talking.
Luke Burbank
When you get. When you get that gold watch, which they found weirdly up there, the wand.
Andrew Walsh
I was talking to a family member who's, you know, older and said that they got to the point where they said, well, that's probably your last one. You don't need to come in for these anymore. I'm like, boy, talk about mixed blessing there.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, that's a. There you go. You know what? That's a reminder to be grateful on this Friday for you and I, that we're still in the phase where they need to do that as opposed to saying it's probably at this point not. Not going to make.
Andrew Walsh
Make a big difference.
Luke Burbank
So there you go. Here's to. Here's to colonoscopies. Colonoscopies for everyone. Andrew, on. On Luke, on me.
Andrew Walsh
Ring the bell.
Luke Burbank
I've already paid most of my co pay this year, so it's. It's honestly house money. Let's do it.
Andrew Walsh
Nice.
Luke Burbank
All right, that is going to do it for this week of tbtl. We are going to be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for all of you. So we hope you can circle back for that, as it were. In the meantime, have a great weekend, take care of yourselves and. And please remember, no mountain too tall.
Andrew Walsh
And good luck to all. Power out.
Podcast Summary: TBTL Episode #4468 – "The Booty Keeps Score"
Introduction
In Episode #4468 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live, released on May 16, 2025, hosts Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh dive into a blend of personal anecdotes, humorous banter, and topical discussions. This episode, titled "The Booty Keeps Score," delves primarily into Andrew’s colonoscopy experience, a new Seahawks commercial, and interactions with their dedicated listeners. The dynamic duo maintains their signature humor while addressing significant topics, making the episode both engaging and insightful for new and returning listeners alike.
1. Andrew’s Colonoscopy Experience
A substantial portion of the episode focuses on Andrew Walsh’s recent colonoscopy, providing listeners with a candid and detailed recount of the procedure from preparation to post-analysis.
Preparation and Anxiety: Andrew shares his initial apprehensions about the colonoscopy prep, highlighting the rigorous fasting and the daunting process of consuming the colonoscopy solution. Luke empathizes, drawing parallels to his own experiences.
Andrew Walsh (00:00): “I have had thoughts, like your casual thoughts about what will you do if I'm dead on Friday. Thank you for that, by the way.”
Luke Burbank (04:27): “Thon is over now if you want it.”
The Procedure: Andrew describes the actual procedure, his nervousness about the IV drip, and his interactions with the medical staff. He humorously recalls trying to lighten the mood by engaging with the nurses.
Post-Procedure Reflections: Post-procedure, Andrew discusses the immediate effects of the anesthetic, his initial hunger, and the gradual return to normalcy. He provides a realistic portrayal of the recovery process, dispelling myths and fears associated with colonoscopies.
Andrew Walsh (24:58): “Everything went really well, and I'm glad. I will say this with love and admiration.”
Luke Burbank (29:34): “That's really how I felt.”
Dietary Restrictions and Hacks: The hosts talk about the dietary restrictions post-colonoscopy, with Andrew sharing his creative hacks like using miso soup and green Jolly Ranchers to cope with the limited diet.
Andrew Walsh (12:34): “I bought jello and made jello for the first time, and I actually did eat.”
Luke Burbank (16:21): “Move over, fancy envelopes. There's a new longtime traveler in town.”
2. Seahawks Commercial and Kingdome Bathrooms Nostalgia
Transitioning from personal health experiences, Luke and Andrew shift focus to the latest Seattle Seahawks commercial, which humorously nostalgizes the old Kingdome bathrooms.
Commercial Breakdown: Luke describes the commercial as a playful homage to the often-criticized Kingdome bathrooms, reimagining them as a toy playset complete with overflowing trash cans and circular sinks.
Luke Burbank (57:34): “They put out a pretend toy commercial that involves the toys of the teams they're playing.”
Andrew Walsh (61:04): “But also for me, I had somehow taken the circular sink concept and in my mind, I misremembered it as, no, you pee into, like, there's a urinal that's circular.”
Personal Memories: Both hosts share memories of similar restroom setups from their youth, highlighting the shared experiences that bond them and resonate with their audience.
Listener Interaction: They incorporate listener Brian’s message about the Kingdome bathrooms traumatizing a generation of Seattle boys, adding depth to the discussion.
3. Listener Messages and Donor Highlights
Engaging with their community, Luke and Andrew feature messages from their listeners and donors, infusing the episode with personal touches and gratitude.
Carolyn Curly’s Contribution: Carolyn promotes her book, "Guidance Groove," focusing on overcoming unproductive habits and trusting intuition. Luke enthusiastically endorses the book, aligning it with the show’s ethos.
Lauren Castelli’s Participation: Lauren’s messages, peppered with humor about "dear Lovies" and toilet paper measurements, add levity to the episode. The hosts playfully engage with her content, emphasizing the strong community vibe.
Humorous Banter: The hosts poke fun at recurring themes in listener messages, such as the coincidental use of "dear Lovies," showcasing their chemistry and shared history with the audience.
4. Promotion of "Guidance Groove" by Carolyn Curly
Carolyn Curly, a biology professor at UC San Diego, takes a moment to promote her book, "Guidance Groove: Escape Unproductive Habits, Trust Your Intuition, and Be True."
Book Overview: Carolyn’s book addresses techniques to achieve contentment and ease by breaking free from mental traps that lead to anxiety and discontentment.
Luke’s Endorsement: Luke passionately recommends the book, sharing his personal struggles with anxiety and the relevance of Carolyn’s work to the show’s listeners.
5. Seahawks Schedule Release and Nostalgic Comparisons
Returning to sports talk, Luke discusses the Seahawks' innovative schedule release through a playful, action-figure-styled commercial reminiscent of 1980s toy ads.
Commercial Analysis: The commercial features action-packed legends and playful interactions, capturing the nostalgic essence while promoting the team’s upcoming matches.
Comparison to Past Ads: Andrew recalls similar viral commercial releases, particularly the Jacksonville Jaguars' 2023 schedule announcement, underscoring the effectiveness of such creative marketing strategies.
6. Humorous Interludes and Rivalry References
Throughout the episode, Luke and Andrew intersperse humor and playful jabs about city rivalries, particularly between Seattle and other major cities like San Diego and Cleveland.
City and Team Rivalries: The hosts humorously discuss their support for local teams while acknowledging the friendly (and sometimes intense) rivalries that add spice to their banter.
Recurring Gags: References to past episodes, inside jokes, and ongoing gags about the dynamics with donors like Lauren and Carolyn keep the conversation lively and relatable.
7. Concluding Thoughts and Future Episodes
As the episode wraps up, Luke and Andrew reflect on the topics covered, express gratitude to their listeners, and tease upcoming content.
Final Reflections: They highlight the importance of gratitude, especially after discussing potentially daunting experiences like colonoscopies, and encourage listeners to take care of their health.
Teasing Future Content: The hosts hint at continuing their tradition of engaging and imaginative radio-style segments, ensuring listeners know more exciting content is on the horizon.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
Andrew Walsh (00:00): “I have had thoughts, like your casual thoughts about what will you do if I'm dead on Friday. Thank you for that, by the way.”
Luke Burbank (04:27): “Thon is over now if you want it.”
Andrew Walsh (12:34): “I bought jello and made jello for the first time, and I actually did eat.”
Andrew Walsh (25:52): “They gave me some ice packs and everything. And I think I was just sort of like, I was just so ready for it to be done with.”
Andrew Walsh (52:08): “That is a coincidence because I didn't even pull these in order.”
Carolyn Curly (45:40): “It's designed to help you achieve more contentment, ease, and openness and let go of the stories created in your mind that trick you into being anxious, afraid, and discontented.”
Luke Burbank (58:38): “But it's kind of from the same. I thought that was a sort of a clever way to roll out the season.”
Andrew Walsh (63:46): “But in the middle of the locker room area where you would wash your hands after going to the bathroom was this giant round that almost pebbled kind of material sink or whatever.”
Conclusion
Episode #4468 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live masterfully balances personal stories with topical humor, creating an engaging narrative that resonates with listeners. From Andrew Walsh’s candid discussion of his colonoscopy to nostalgic riffs on Seahawks commercials and heartfelt interactions with listeners, Luke and Andrew deliver a memorable episode filled with laughter, empathy, and relatable experiences. Whether you’re tuning in for the first time or are a long-time fan, this episode offers a comprehensive glimpse into the friendship and dynamic that make TBTL a beloved daily show.