#4499 The Ultimate Snack Down

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL #4499 "The Ultimate Snack Down"

Released on June 30, 2025

Introduction

In episode #4499 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live, hosts Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh delve into a variety of topics ranging from weekend escapades and sports frustrations to personal anecdotes and listener interactions. This long-form summary captures the essence of their engaging conversation, highlighting key discussions, notable quotes, and insightful reflections.

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Weekend Adventures: Power Slap and UFC World Championship

The episode kicks off with Luke recounting his extended stay in Las Vegas due to unexpected filming opportunities. He shares his experiences attending both the Power Slap and the UFC World Championship events.

• Luke Burbank (02:25): "It was quite something. On Saturday night, I couldn't get Theo Vaughn, the podcaster, to leave me alone, which was a weird sort of experience."

Luke describes the atmosphere of these events as the "epicenter of the manosphere," observing the hyper-masculine environment and the interactions among attendees.

• Andrew Walsh (05:15): "I slog ass in here every Monday, so it's nice to know that every now and then, you let loose on a Sunday as well."

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Baseball Frustrations: A Deep Dive into the Mariners

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the hosts' frustrations with the Seattle Mariners, discussing player performances and team management decisions.

• Luke Burbank (12:29): "Mitch Garver over the last seven games, hitting .333 with three home runs. And I've made this happen by being so critical of Mitch Garver..."

The duo critiques the Mariners' handling of promising players like Jared Kelnick, Robinson Cano, and Edwin Diaz, expressing disillusionment with the team's inability to capitalize on their potential.

• Andrew Walsh (15:23): "He was just like, he was going to be such an up and comer... He kicked a Gatorade bucket and broke his foot."

Their discussion highlights a sense of recurring disappointment and the challenges of maintaining hope as a fan.

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Personal Lives and Home Projects

Amidst the sports talk, the hosts share snippets of their personal lives, particularly focusing on Andrew's gardening project and his partner Genevieve's handiwork.

• Andrew Walsh (06:30): "Genevieve had another project on her plate, which is to install a new storm door on the front of our house."

Luke admires Genevieve's skills, noting her recent accomplishment of making one of his favorite shirts.

• Luke Burbank (07:30): "She made a beautiful shirt. What you do. It's... what do you do to this beautiful shirt?"

The conversation underscores the balance between professional endeavors and personal life, adding a relatable touch for listeners.

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Political Reflections: MAGA, Libertarianism, and Cultural Observations

The hosts delve into political discourse, reflecting on the influence of the MAGA movement, the libertarian tendencies of figures like Dana White, and their own navigations of political landscapes.

• Andrew Walsh (22:17): "Is Theo Vaughn... is he just sort of a dumb coded guy who goes around and talks to anybody?"

They discuss Theo Vaughn's political stance, questioning his alignment and the broader implications of his interactions with political figures like Donald Trump.

• Luke Burbank (23:15): "Is it a great honor to talk to the President of the United States, regardless of that person's politics?"

Andrew expresses skepticism about Dana White's political motivations, particularly his stance during the COVID-19 pandemic restrictions.

• Andrew Walsh (36:49): "One of them might lean into the blue a little bit. So I could be wrong about that aspect."

The conversation reveals the hosts' critical perspectives on political affiliations and the complexities of public figures' beliefs.

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Encounter with Theo Vaughn: An Unexpected Interaction

A standout moment in the episode is Luke's recounting of his unexpected conversation with podcaster Theo Vaughn at the UFC event.

• Luke Burbank (29:42): "He came over and says it was like a funeral, but everyone's alive. I'm trying to walk it off right now."

Despite sitting several rows behind, Theo approaches Luke, initiating a deep and somewhat confusing conversation about the intensity of the fight they just witnessed. Luke admits to feeling overwhelmed and unsure of how to respond.

• Andrew Walsh (30:30): "He locked eyes with me and then comes over and starts talking to me like he knows me."

This interaction provides a glimpse into the challenges of navigating unexpected social encounters, especially in high-energy environments.

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Listener Shoutouts and Donor Messages

The hosts engage with their audience through listener shoutouts and donor messages, adding a personal and community-driven element to the show.

• Luke Burbank (43:04): "David Bratt of Edmonds Washroom says... thank you for helping me and my fellow federal employees get through the first half of this year."

Andrew shares heartwarming voicemails, including one from Nancy wishing him well for his colonoscopy.

• Andrew Walsh (55:26): "Nancy wished you luck.

• Andrew Walsh (55:29): "It's a sweet message from Nancy. And I don't think, you know, I don't know if we've emailed with Nancy before, but I did not recognize her voice as somebody that like, kind of calls in a lot."

These segments emphasize the show's connection with its listeners, fostering a sense of community and shared experiences.

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Voicemails: Personal and Informative Messages

Towards the end of the episode, Luke and Andrew share and react to voicemails from their audience, blending humor with personal reflections.

• Andrew Walsh (57:02): "This was a voicemail that only had relevance really on one day... the day that I had my colonoscopy."

• Luke Burbank (59:36): "Thank you, anonymous person, for hyping us to that fact. I am now going to be boring everybody with that."

These interactions highlight the hosts' ability to blend personal anecdotes with audience engagement, maintaining a light-hearted and relatable atmosphere.

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Conclusion

Episode #4499 of TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live offers a multifaceted conversation between friends navigating various aspects of life, from the exhilaration of live events and sports frustrations to personal projects and political musings. Through candid dialogue, humorous exchanges, and heartfelt listener interactions, Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh create an engaging narrative that resonates with a diverse audience.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Walsh (03:22): "I have a question for you that's a little bit personal and I don't want to put you on the spot, but I asked this with love and joy."
• Luke Burbank (12:29): "Mitch Garver over the last seven games, hitting .333 with three home runs. And I've made this happen by being so critical of Mitch Garver..."
• Andrew Walsh (41:33): "I was literally fantasizing about that this weekend. And just like all this anxiety and like, again, I'm never going to give up my morals but like, it's just, it's hard to not sometimes think about it."

This episode exemplifies TBTL's blend of humor, personal insight, and topical discussions, making it a compelling listen for both regular fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Well, tell me how you both got.

[Andrew Walsh]

Started in acting as art. I started doing stand up. Jerry Seltzer's Laugh Emporium. I was at Chortle's, the comedy place. And no one really. No one really got it. I got it. I thought it was hysterical.

[Luke Burbank]

What did she do?

[Andrew Walsh]

She has a one woman show. Tell her the title. You want no penis intended. No penis intended.

[Luke Burbank]

She did here.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

And what was that about?

[Andrew Walsh]

One critic described it as a humorless romp into Ms. Webb's dysfunctional psyche. It's a humorless critic. That doesn't make sense.

[Luke Burbank]

No.

[Andrew Walsh]

TBTL Hi, Luke and Andrew. It's Irene and I have a funny joke for you.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

What is the radish's favorite food?

[Luke Burbank]

Beats me. Mmm.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ah.

[Luke Burbank]

Gazpacho soup just burned my lips. The gazpacho? Yeah, it's been sitting out. It warmed up. It warmed up so much that it burned your lip. Let me explain something to you. If you're expecting something ice cold and you bring it up to your lips and it's room temp, it's going to feel like your mouth's on fire. It's gonna feel like your body's on fire. Is there and I'm just guessing here.

[Andrew Walsh]

Some kind of medication that you maybe need a lot of and have taken none of or maybe too much of today? Yalapeno.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't even know what that means. No one know what it means, but it's provocative.

[Andrew Walsh]

All right.

[Luke Burbank]

Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. I can't believe you're still on the air. My name is Luke Burbank. I AM your host, Mr. Unlimited, coming to you for the final day, I pray, from Las Vegas, Nevada. We ended up staying an extra day because of some television filming and other things. And we are here the last day, looking out on the sphere at the intersection of Tropicana and Ms. Koval and wow, it's a kind of magic. Well, it's something here, I'll tell you that. We've made it, friends, to episode 4499 in a collector's series, Let the fun begin. While I was here this weekend, I went to both the Power Slap and the UFC World Championship, I think it was. And it was really the epicenter of the manosphere.

[Andrew Walsh]

Two bros broing it up.

[Luke Burbank]

It was quite something. On Saturday night, I couldn't get Theo Vaughn, the podcaster, to leave me alone, which was a weird sort of experience. Anyway, we'll get into it as soon as we welcome this man to the program. He is the longest running cobra of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Best friends are very cool to be.

[Andrew Walsh]

Very best friends are dope to be.

[Luke Burbank]

He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Andrew Walsh]

Good morning, Luke. Sorry if the audio levels are a little bit wonky. I'm trying to dial in over here. I don't know what's going on with me and technology today, my boy.

[Luke Burbank]

You said you had a problem pre show that kind of waylaid your entire morning.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And that wasn't even related to audio. It wasn't even related to this show, to be honest with you. I. I mean, listen, if. I mean truthful, there's nothing more I want to talk about right now. Do it then. No, it's Luke, it's radio.

[Luke Burbank]

Rather hear me talk about the manosphere.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, we should talk. I mean, honestly, like where you are so much more interesting than me talking about complaints that I have with verification of my YouTube channel. But trust me, I'm doing everything I need to vent to somebody. But I'm telling you, the top of the show on Monday is most of.

[Luke Burbank]

The listeners have YouTube channels, Andrew, and they're having problems. This is highly relatable content.

[Andrew Walsh]

Later on in the show, we'll get to it. I have a question for you that's a little bit personal and I don't want to put you on the spot, but I asked this with love and joy. Do I hear a little bit of Vegas in your voice this morning?

[Luke Burbank]

You might be hearing the slightest little bit.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I thought I heard Las Vegas, Nevada in here.

[Luke Burbank]

Andrew Walsh, you going?

[Andrew Walsh]

You're leaning in a little bit since. Because you were not even supposed to be there this late. You were supposed to come home, I think over the weekend. Right now, here you are and it's Sunday.

[Luke Burbank]

I was supposed to come home Sunday afternoon. What happened was Becca's brother Scott is here and, and his friend Trevor and I had an opportunity. One, we did film. We filmed longer than we expected to. And two, I had an opportunity to go to the swimming pool, although we never actually got in the pool. Well, we did get in the pool briefly. I had a chance to go to the pool with them on Sunday and it seemed like a fun opportunity because I have been traveling for weeks, but I haven't been actually having any days off. So we did go to the swimming pool. And yes, turns out there's. It's. You have to spend a minimum amount of money at the swimming pool for. To be allowed to sit there. And that minimum amount of money is a lot of money, and it involves a certain amount of alcohol consumption. So. Yes, you're hearing that today. And thunder.

[Andrew Walsh]

It sounds like thunder rolled. I mean, it's good to let the thunder kind of roll every now and then. I appreciate it. You know, I slog ass in here every Monday, so it's. It's nice to know that every now and then, you let loose on a Sunday as well.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm moving a little bit slower than a typical Monday for me.

[Andrew Walsh]

Good. Oh, I'm glad. And again, I didn't want. I didn't ask you that off air. I didn't want to put you on the spot, but I thought. Thought we could all rejoice in the fact that you're having a little bit of fun out there.

[Luke Burbank]

Even Luke's have some fun now and then.

[Andrew Walsh]

Even Luke's have.

[Luke Burbank]

I'll tell you, I don't. I don't bounce back the way that I used to. That's for darn sure.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, YouTube video.

[Luke Burbank]

How was your weekend, by the way?

[Andrew Walsh]

Just kidding. Kidding. I'm not gonna get into YouTube verification. The weekend was actually good. It was less productive than I thought. We did sort of do that mulching project that I started talking about, but we ended up buying bags. And by the way, I didn't.

[Luke Burbank]

You didn't take the neighbor's mulch?

[Andrew Walsh]

No. But what you don't know right now is I'm lying to you. I'm lying to you so bad. We didn't do shit. Genevieve did it. So what happened was I was supposed to. I was really looking forward to spending Saturday going to the hardware store, getting a bunch of nice mulch, nice dark brown mulch and putting it down in our garden. It was going to be the final. Kind of like the final little step of really sprucing things up out there. And it was really going to be my project. Genevieve had another project on her plate, which is to install a new storm door on the front of our house. Our storm door literally ended up coming off. It was like the hinges were getting worse and worse until it just eventually was hanging.

[Luke Burbank]

A quick question.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Is it a screen door or a storm door?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, isn't it both? Because it's like a screen door that you can slide the glass up in and close the. So are you guys.

[Luke Burbank]

But is it currently. Does it currently have a screen in it?

[Andrew Walsh]

It's got a screen, but Don't. I think those doors, you can slide a piece of glass over to protect. So is that not technically a storm door? Is that a screen?

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, I think it is. I think it's a screen door sometimes and a storm door sometimes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. Yeah, so that'll be. I mean, this time of year, usually our front door would be open, often letting air flow through. And it's just funny how you just get used, especially when you kind of, like, fall behind on project. And again, this is one that I wouldn't even dare to, like, try to tackle myself. If I lived alone, I would hire somebody to install this door because I just don't have the. The. The doors are tricky. Yeah, doors are tricky. But Genevieve is a very handy person, and she really knows. I mean, she's been doing more and more, like, projects. Not door hanging projects, but all kinds of projects that involve tools and everything. And so she spent.

[Luke Burbank]

She recently made one of my favorite shirts.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. Exactly. I mean, she's handy in many, many ways. Like, that is no joke. Like, she. She made a beautiful shirt. What you do. It's. What. What do you do to this beautiful shirt? But anyway, so the whole point of this is. Dang it, Andrew, dial it in. Saturday, Genevieve was going to work on hanging a nude front door. I knew she needed me at one point and maybe, like, kind of hold the door while she does the. I don't know. Whatever. Some of the mechanics of it. But mostly that was gonna be.

[Luke Burbank]

Would you say you were doing.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was going to. I haven't heard yet, but I will. And then my thing was going to be, I'm going to finish our gardening project by getting some nice mulch, some beautiful mulch, and putting it down in the garden. But then we just blew Saturday, to be honest with you. Like, it was the perfect day to do both of these projects. The weather was beautiful. It's the end. It was a Saturday where I didn't have any other obligations. I didn't have to record anything. It was just going to be my Saturday to get this stuff done. But, like, we. I'm just going to admit it. Veeves and I just totally blew off Saturday. Like, she was out at some bachelorette thing on Friday night and went a little bit wild. So she was moving slow. I'm a deeply lazy person. So if the other person. If the other person in the relationship is like dragon ass, that I'm just gonna match their energy, which you probably know from the show. And so we just kind of like, we ended up going to feed our friend's cat, and we just, like, watched the Mariners game at their place all day long and got almost nothing done on Saturday. And then Sunday, I woke up and started working on my, you know, making coffee and lemonade and stuff for my volunteer thing on Sunday. And Genevieve runs off to the hardware store, gets all the mulch, and then she's out there mulching up the. So I feel terrible. I said, we did this. I didn't do anything. But the garden looks so good. We still have a little bit to do. We still have a little bit to do, but, my God, the difference it makes. It's like putting makeup on your garden. It's like everything was, like, kind of cleaned up and everything that we washed our face and everything. It was looking good. But then we laid the stuff down, and it's. It's really popping right now, and I had nothing to do with it. I didn't do crap.

[Luke Burbank]

I didn't do exactly what I was thinking.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Here's the thing, I would say, and again, I don't want to get into the division of labor in your relationship, but you also do pretty much all the cleaning in the home environment, if I understand. Or a big majority of it. The dishes, like, so I think this is. I think this is. This is fair. This is. It's nice that, again, I.

[Andrew Walsh]

This.

[Luke Burbank]

There's no good ending to this conversation of me speculating on who should do what work in your home environment, but I think. I think it's cool that Genevieve did all of that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Anyway, so I think that all started with you asking how the weekend was and me just immediately feeling guilty for not doing work. So I admitted that. But it was a nice weekend. And I'll also tell you, I am kind of excited to head to the Mariners game this afternoon. They're playing the Royals. This is going to be an interesting game for me because I've been kind of following and rooting for the Royals all year now. They're not in a very competitive situation right now, but. But by far, the team that I know most beyond the Mariners is the Royal. So I'm like, well, I feel like I need to go to at least one game in this series. So. Heading to the ballpark after this.

[Luke Burbank]

So the Mariners are playing at home today?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, no day off, but they are back home. Texas after playing in Texas. A long road trip and then no break. And then they're. They're heading. Heading back up here to Seattle right now. And I'll. We'll. All be there tonight.

[Luke Burbank]

That was a very exciting game. Yesterday. I was watching it on my phone on Fubo at the swimming pool.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, nice. Perfect. Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

It was almost impossible to see because of the amount of glare. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

But I was.

[Luke Burbank]

And, like, everyone's popping bottles. It's a whole scene. And I'm just, like, staring at my cell phone that's propped up. Propped up against an ice bucket.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. I don't know how much we want to get into it, but I had to. I had to turn off the game right after the Mariners had taken the lead and extra innings. And I was weirdly optimistic. I was like, this is going to hold. I think that might have been the 10th inning. And I was like, this is going to hold. I think. I can't remember if they got one. I think they got two runs, something. But then I'm like, okay. So I turn off the game. They start setting up tables and everything. I'm in this parking lot. The other volunteers are showing up, and then this other volunteer shows up and says, oh, they blew it. I don't know if you heard. And I was like, what? He's like, yeah, tied game again. I was like, ah. And at that point, I totally put it out of my head. I'm like, they lost. Like, the Mariner. I know they're not coming back from this again. They lost, and it is what it is. They'll get back home, and we'll see what happens. I forgot about the game. Put it out of my head until an hour later, and I opened up my phone and I'm a son of a Ricky. I don't know why I said that. That's a new expression. Son of a Rick. Ricky. They end up winning Garfield. Yeah, that's true, too. I don't even know why I said Ricky there. That was not a reference to anything, but. So that was. Mitch Garver is our hero today, huh?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Mitch Garver. There's. I have. I have manifested this. I sent you guys a text weirdly early this morning, pointing out that Mitch Garver, over the last. Let me see if I can get the exact data point.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah. Is he like 333 or something?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Mitch Garver over the last seven games. Seven games, hitting.333 with three home runs. And I've made this happen by being so critical of Mitch Garver to you guys on the text chain, constantly negging this person and wondering why the only person that I've negged more is Donovan Solano. And now these Two guys are absolute beasts for the Mariners. And I take a lot of credit for this.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. I mean, the personal bullying that you did to him, even though he cried in front of the cameras last year, I know all of the bullying that he received, Mitch, that is a true story.

[Luke Burbank]

You and I have brought this up before. The Mariners are the cryness team in baseball.

[Andrew Walsh]

Certainly are.

[Luke Burbank]

And like Mitch Garver was a guy who literally cried when asked about how badly he was playing because of how many people like me were cyberbullying him to within an inch of his life. And, and that humanizes him to me deeply. But also when he strikes out, when he weak, you know, I was, I was.

[Andrew Walsh]

You did not cyberbully him. Just to be very clear. Like, you make fun of him behind his back on the text chain, which isn't way behind, but it's way behind his back. And unless he's a TBTL 10, which would be shocking. I would love to hear that. But unless Mitch garver is a TBTL 10, you didn't actually cyber bully. But he really did receive actual cyber bullying, which is why I wanted to clarify that.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. And he, and he, he got emotional when he was talking about it, which again is like, it makes him such a real person to me and it means that I should not be so angry at him when he doesn't hit. But we've also, we've talked about this on the show. There's something about baseball in particular that makes me unreasonably angry at the players that are doing poorly. Like, I wanted to hang Dylan Moore in effigy on Saturday because he came up with in, I think in extra innings. And he, he weakly struck, struck out on three straight pitches and did not advance the. The zombie runner to third. And it made me want to like, research Dylan Moore and find out something especially mean to say to him online. I didn't do it, by the way. I'm not about the cyberbullying, but. But I get so much more mad at baseball players than I do at other athletes. And it's weird.

[Andrew Walsh]

Now I want to. This is not related to the anger issues that you're talking about here, but just a little. This is so schadenfreude, and I don't mean it to be, but we haven't discussed this as friends, as, as co members of the fun loving criminals. And it's worth noting that Jared Kelnick, I believe, is still playing in the minor leagues.

[Luke Burbank]

Really?

[Andrew Walsh]

He's been playing in the minor leagues almost all he Played, I think, like 20 or 30 games for the Braves and he was sent back down. The only reason I bring this up is as. As Mariners fans, we. We feel like we're just kind of constantly born losers, sort of. And. And count. Jared Kelnick was supposed to be one of our, you know, one of our great prospects. And then he came up several years ago, maybe four years ago. I think he might have been.

[Luke Burbank]

Wasn't he, like, in the top five overall draft picks?

[Andrew Walsh]

I think so. He was just like he was going to be such an up and comer and. And then he did up and he did well. He did. I'm not going to finish that. But he did come up for us and then ended up not doing so well. Now, whether or not when he finally.

[Luke Burbank]

Started playing well, he kicked a Gatorade bucket and broke his foot.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. After he, like, he kind of. He was playing, he finally started playing well after a couple of seasons and. Oh, that's why I'm thinking of it, because you were talking about crying in baseball. Because then he finally got a bit of a hot streak, but then he kind of struck out after one game and really important strikeout, and he got so mad that he went back to the dugout and kicked a cooler, ended up breaking his foot, and then couldn't play for a big chunk of the season after that. And then he was in the dugout like, you know, on camera. Somebody was interviewing him and he was crying and he felt, you know, he felt like he let the team down and he let the fans down and everything. But the thing about Jared Kelnick, even though crying often humanizes people, Jared Kelnick, not a super likable guy. I didn't like him from afar. Even as a Mariner, he seemed like sort of a.

[Luke Burbank]

He definitely would have been at Power Slap on Saturday.

[Andrew Walsh]

I could. Oh, yeah, we should talk more about that because I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore. But I. But I was positive that when he left the Mariners, he was going to go and become the player that we all assumed he was, because that's our luck. And the thing is, I'm trying to remind myself, I guess, that how many of these storylines actually play out the way they feel like they play out when you feel like you're just losing all the time. And it is true that the Mariners are the only team never to make it to the World Series. And there are definitely reasons why Mariners fans can argue that they're the most lowly fan base in baseball. As Far as, like, just not just not getting wins, but, like, it is a good reminder that, like, reality did not go out and, like, rake for Atlanta. You know what I mean? He's, like, literally playing in the. I'm pretty. Unless they brought him back up, but, like, I'm pretty sure he's just still playing. I see. He did. He's doing well. He got a grand slam two weeks ago for the stripers.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, he's a former Modesto nut.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did he come through Modesto? I wasn't even sure of that. Nice. Well, then there you go.

[Luke Burbank]

No, but you know what? That's a good reality check, because you're right. It's like, as a fan of a team, you write all these narratives in your head about how cursed you are, and they are. And sometimes it's like, it's. Again, it's nice to know that, like, sometimes things do sort of. It's weird that Jared Kalanick not being good is a break in the Mariner's direction.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Right. And again, kind of weird. Schadenfreude. But it also makes me think more about, like, we're kind of at this place where there's a lot of conversation about, like, what we do with some of our prospects right now. Like, do we bring some of these people up? Or as we approach the trade deadline, do we look at maybe possibly getting rid of some of these young players who never even put on a Mariner's uniform yet? And it always is heartbreaking to think about, like, giving up prospects. But the thing is, we don't have the best luck with prospects. You know? Like, I almost wonder, maybe there's more value. It's, like, very much Schrodinger's. Like, isn't that literally kind of like Schrodinger's prospect? Like, you don't really know what you have. And unfortunately, we open the box.

[Luke Burbank]

You have observed.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

The hitting.

[Andrew Walsh]

We've had a lot of unhealthy cats, let's just say, in our prospect box. And so, anyway, that's. Maybe that's the end of baseball talk for me.

[Luke Burbank]

We, by the way, we traded away Robinson Cano and Edwin Diaz, among others, for. For Kelnick.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, to bring Kelnick over as a prospect, though, right? As a minor leaguer. Yes. Okay. Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, he was a Met, I think, and then. And that was a big deal because, like, we went out, he was in.

[Andrew Walsh]

The Met system, but he didn't play for the Mets yet.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't think he ever played for the Mets, but he was in the Met system. I think he was the number six. I have this on the Internet.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know this by memory, but he was the number six overall pick for the Mets.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

And then we. And then when we went and spent on Robinson Canoe, that was a big deal. That was like the Mariners actually going out and like signing a really, really talented player. And then he like every. It seems. Now I'm going back to the narrative of the Mariners are cursed. Like so many Mariners before him that we spent a bunch of money on Robinson Canoe never really delivered. It didn't feel like he delivered that much as a Mariner. But then we traded him and Edwin Diaz for Kalanick because Kalanick was going to be the future. And then of course, he wasn't.

[Andrew Walsh]

And then you remember. And again, not to schadenfreude this, especially when it comes to injury, but you remember what happened to both those players. Eventually Cano ends up getting dinged right away for his like second or third drug violation, PED violation. Right. So I think he got suspended for a full year. And then Edwin had a great season, but then injured himself really badly before the next season, I think missed an entire season. So it's not even like. It's not even like that Kelnick trade that we got like really hosed on that either.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I'm feeling really good about this baseball team, by the way. They went on this road trip. Sorry, this is just descending into Mariners. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Should we go back to what trouble was. Oh, God, it's so boring. I am wondering what the. Because I know that we're too deep into baseball talk on a Monday. I feel it. I feel it to the. I feel the listeners, I mean, they haven't even heard this yet and I feel them vibrating through my. Through my system right now.

[Luke Burbank]

Should we talk about Power Slap then?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I do think that's way more interesting. Like you're out there living an interesting life and I'm just like going down on five year old trades in the mlb.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I did go to Power Slap on on Friday night actually, and it was an interesting scene, let me tell you for. You know who I didn't expect to see there? RFK Jr's wife, Cheryl Hines.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. It did not seem like her scene, I think. And you know, if you watch Curb youb Enthusiasm, you know, she's Larry David's wife on the show or ex wife, I guess, as the plot goes. Somehow I've always sort of thought of her as, I don't know, why? She was liberal coded to me, but it was something about being on Curb youb Enthusiasm and, like, Larry David, I think, is famously like an environmentalist and stuff. So I just kind of figured she was in the. In the club. And then she's married to RFK Jr. And like, you know, RFK Jr. Obviously turns out to be a nut case. And then I just thought, oh, she just didn't realize she married a nutcase. And then I see her at Power Slap hugging the podcaster Theo Vaughn, and I was like, oh, she's kind of in on it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Although. Can I. Can I. Can I ask you a question? Yes. This is a question we should. This is a conversation we should have had long ago, probably. But, I mean, Theo Vaughn, what is his role in all of this? And when I say all of this, I mean American society in 2025. Answer that question for me, please, sir. No, but, like, is Theo Vaughn. Like, is he. I know he's bro. Y. Is he definitely conservative, or is he just sort of a. Is his character sort of like kind of a dumb coded guy who goes around and talks to anybody? Like, what is his thing?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't think he's conservative coded, per se. Yeah, but he did interview Trump, and that was seen as a big boost to Trump.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And I actually don't know who he voted for. And I was trying to figure this out the other day when I was starting to write this piece. So I don't actually know if he formally endorsed Trump or not, but, you know, he's just one of those guys that's. You know, I was sitting on Saturday night at the actual fight, the UFC fight. I was sitting behind these guys, the Nelk boys. There are another podcast that is not political, per se, and I don't know if they voted for Trump, but I guess they don't see talking to Trump as, like, a harm to America.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

That a lot of people see it as. And I think Theo Vaughn is the same way. I think he. I mean, in fact, I did, when I was trying to look up who he voted for, I did see some posts that he put, which was like, it was a great honor to talk to Donald J. Trump and stuff like that. That. That would be. Those would not be words I would use to describe talking to Donald J. Trump. I would not.

[Andrew Walsh]

Although that.

[Luke Burbank]

That raises a question. Is it a. Is it a great honor to talk to the President of the United States, regardless of that person's politics?

[Andrew Walsh]

No. I mean, for me, I think. Well, I mean, it's a great that. That's a very objective question for. It would not be a great honor for me personally, regardless of, like, how.

[Luke Burbank]

Much you disagree with the president, the talking to the president, the person who's in the office of presidency. Is that. I mean.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah, for me personally, and again, I'm not telling other people how to feel, but, like, for me personally, that, in fact, I would even just say that, like, him ascending to that office makes me even more sort of, like.

[Luke Burbank]

Value of the office.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly. Like, I don't. I don't just respect an office, especially when there's no respect in that office anymore. In fact, it's so appalling. It's like, why would I just, like, by. The thing that he's accomplished was he accomplished a whole bunch of people voting for him and putting him there. But I think that's an awful. I think that's an awful outcome. I think he's an awful person. And I think the people who did that, if they're not awful themselves, they did an awful thing by putting him there.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, so I would say that Theo Vaughn is not, like, rabidly pro Trump, but he's also not as upset about Trump as, like, we are. Sure, that makes sense. Yeah. But it was so weird. On Saturday night at the UFC fight, they put us in, like, the celebrity section. Me and our camera guy and our producer and our sound guy, and the celebrities are all podcasters now and influencers. Like, it's crazy. That's the. That is the cream of the. Of the crop of popular people. And so many people were coming by and asking for pictures with Theo and with the Nelk boys and with. Trying to think who else was around us just like. And these are just all guys wearing basically, like, what's called, like, a snapback hat. You know, like the hat that has a little adjustable thing on the back, and for some reason, all the writing is upside down on their hat. Do you know about this trend?

[Andrew Walsh]

I think I've seen that, but I didn't really explore it.

[Luke Burbank]

It was started by a guy who was a former Dallas Cowboys quarterback named Ben Narducci, and somehow he thought of putting the word Dallas on his hat, but putting it upside down.

[Andrew Walsh]

That might have been the actual only photo I've seen. Maybe that's. Maybe I've seen the Ur example, because I can. I feel like I can sort of.

[Luke Burbank]

Picture that everyone who is making millions of dollars podcasting right now, Andrew, who's not us, is walking around wearing hats with the writing on upside down, and then having other dudes stop them and take a picture and ask for a picture with them. Also, Max Crosby was there, the NFL player.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do you think this was inspired at all by Batman and the fact that Batman sleeps upside down, hanging upside down.

[Luke Burbank]

Is that official? Does he sleep upside down?

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, in the 1989 Batman movie, there is a scene where. I mean, it's really Bruce Wayne, right. He has a little liaison with Vicki Vale.

[Luke Burbank]

This is the Michael Keaton version.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is a Michael Keaton, and he has a little liaison, if you'll recall, a date night. And Vicki Val, I believe, spends the night, and then she wakes up in the middle of the night and he is not laying next to her, and she looks across the room, and he's hanging upside down. Upside down and just swinging. He's sleeping, I believe, hanging upside down with his arms across his chest and just swinging. Very, very, very mildly. Does this ring a bell?

[Luke Burbank]

Kind of. That's an interesting. That's an interesting. Like, what plot point for him, because is that established in any other part of the Batman verse?

[Andrew Walsh]

I can't think of it anywhere else, but I think that was mean.

[Luke Burbank]

That would indicate that he's literally part bat, like physically he's part bat.

[Andrew Walsh]

Or that. Or that he feels he must inhabit the. You know, he's like a. Who's the actor who puts himself so far into the roles?

[Luke Burbank]

Christian Bale.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, Christian Bale. Or another, by the way. Yes, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

But Christian Bale actually lived under a bridge in Austin, Texas, for three years getting ready for the role of Batman.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ah, see that. I didn't know. Do you think that Ben.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that's. That's a. Famously. Where there's a lot of bats, by the way.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I. I see. I was.

[Luke Burbank]

That wasn't a homelessness joke. That was a bat.

[Andrew Walsh]

I didn't even get the joke at all. I was just ready for it to. I just didn't want to betray my ignorance or. Yeah, I just wanted it be over. I just want. I just.

[Luke Burbank]

Like a lot of listeners today, I really.

[Andrew Walsh]

Having a Monday.

[Luke Burbank]

I just want to. No, no, but like, yeah, in Austin, famously, there are these, like, these caves and things that. Where bats fly out and people go watch them and stuff.

[Andrew Walsh]

I see. All of that is to say Ben Denucci obviously sleeps upside down.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, 100%. So. Yeah. So it was like, it was weird to look around and see all of these podcasters who are so famous and are so wealthy from this thing that you and I have been doing for, like, many, many years and have not gotten famous or Wealthy from, but are doing it. And when. So then Theo Vaughn, at some point, he's sitting in a. Kind of a. Three rows ahead of us, and he sees me and he like, locks eyes with me and then comes over and then starts talking to me like he knows me. And it was very. It was very odd because he was definitely one of the most famous people at this thing, which, again, what a world. But then he's talking to me, me, and I'm thinking, does he have some awareness of me? And then I wanted to bring up, like, oh, hey, you do a podcast, but I also do a podcast. I've been doing a podcast for 17 years, but I didn't, because I felt like that was a weird attempt at a flex or something. Like, what I really want to say to him is like, yes, you're getting rich off of this and I'm not, but I've been doing it longer than you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Can I actually. Can I ask you to back up a little bit here? Because this is actually interesting. This is. This is actually. We.

[Luke Burbank]

We got there.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is actually interesting. No, I'm sorry, I didn't mean.

[Luke Burbank]

That said with surprise.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, no, but, but no, this is interesting. I feel. I don't want to fast forward through this because I don't know Theo Vaughn very well. Okay. Like, I just see clips of him here and there, and the amount of clips I see, I'm sure is hardly any compared to even. Because I don't think you're listening to his podcast either. But I'm sure you're just getting way more exposed to Theof on content than me. But I feel like, I don't know, over the past, over the course of the past year or two, I've, you know, maybe at times I'm like, wait, who is this guy? And sought him out and watch a clip here and there. And the first thing I think of, aside from his, like, you know, his sort of like, his brand of a sort of like kind of slobby appearance or whatever, is he just seems really, really nice. He just seems like he. That seems to be his number one thing, is he's going to make you feel kind of like your friends. And I actually, I kind of love hearing that he just kind of came up to you and was truly like that. But when you say he just came up to you and talked to you like he knew you, how did it start? Like, what was the first.

[Luke Burbank]

First.

[Andrew Walsh]

What was the entree into conversation? Can you, can you pass those Doritos?

[Luke Burbank]

He. He came. He came up to me and said. Literally, the opening line was. It's like, we just. So there was a fight between two, I want to say, featherweight guys that was really particularly violent. These guys were, like, punching each other for the whole, like, three rounds. They were standing up. They were both very bloodied by the end of it. And everybody would like to. The whole arena was going off about how good this fight was. And after it was over, he just kind of beelines it for me, and he just says this line to me, goes. It was like we were at a funeral, but everyone's alive. That's literally the opening line.

[Andrew Walsh]

But you felt like he came over to you to tell you this. You didn't just happen to be standing next to him. That's what's interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

No, I was, like, three rows behind him. Again, he weirdly made eye contact with me at some point during one of the fights. That's why I thought, maybe he's confusing me with somebody else. I was also in a suit. I also had been interviewing Dana White ringside. So I think people were kind of, like, thinking, maybe I was somebody.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, you were like, maybe. Yeah, he knows you're a member of the media. Maybe. Maybe he kind of wants to find out what's going on with you. Maybe.

[Luke Burbank]

Maybe. But, I mean, there were so many other people there that were, again, much more actually well known. I'm not well known at all, but, like, legitimately famous people there that he could have gone and talked to. He comes over to me, goes, that. That was like a funeral, but everyone's still alive. And first of all, I don't even know what that means.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I don't.

[Luke Burbank]

I guess he meant that the guy almost got killed, but didn't.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And then he goes. He goes, I was so scared. I'm shaking. I'm still shaking. I was so scared for them. I'm like, I'm trying to walk it off right now. And I was like, oh, okay. Because I saw him jumping up out of his seat every time. These guys were, like, you know, throttling each other with great excitement. He did not appear to be afraid for them. But then he came over to tell me me that it was like a funeral where everybody was still alive and that he was shaking from having watched it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Huh. Now. And at one point, you didn't just say, hey, I'm Luke, by the way?

[Luke Burbank]

No, I never. We talked for probably 15 minutes, and I never actually introduced myself, which I understand.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, you probably at a certain point, you maybe just feel like the moment has passed.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. And I was being the thing that was happening constantly. There was a bunch of people who are more famous than me, including Jamal Murray, the Denver Nugget, who is sitting next to me, who was explaining MMA to our cameraman very patiently. Like, there were so many people that were, like, way more famous than me, but they were treating me as kind of their peer because we were all in the same section that I didn't want to mess it up by either actually introducing myself or asking for a selfie. I almost asked for a selfie with Jamal Murray because he was just, like, such a cool dude. Like, so our camera guy was sitting next to me, and he knew nothing about MMA and was asking a million questions of this dude next to him. Him who turned out to be an NBA player. And. And the guy was being so sweet and patient and just kind of, like, explaining the different rules and things that I just. Beyond him being an NBA player, I liked him so much as a human being that I wanted to get a picture with him so I could show people the picture of me and this very nice human being. So also happens to be an NBA guy.

[Andrew Walsh]

When you say intersection, I was. Is it almost like. Obviously, the. The plum seats, I would guess in any kind of event that has a ring is ringside. But also I'm sort of picturing, like, a pretty F section with maybe some of the amenities as if it were a suite. Well, I guess what I'm asking here is what were the snacks like?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, in the media tent, the snacks were on point.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Out where we were, I think it was maybe free drinks and free stuff. We weren't getting any of that because we were working, but I think, you know, there was servers coming around and taking orders and stuff, but there wasn't, like, a little bar or food place or something that was in the area that we were in. People were getting stuff from somewhere else.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's for the media thing, but that's.

[Luke Burbank]

There was a media tent.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. But that's not where you're hanging out Theo Von or anything.

[Luke Burbank]

No, that's. We were ringside for that. Or octagon side. Andrew, get the. Get the shape. Right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Of course.

[Luke Burbank]

We were. We were right up against the parallelogram.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, sounds good. And so. And then you're kind of hanging there and is that, like, a sweet, like, experience? Even though it's out in the open and you're. There's not, like, there's not amenities.

[Luke Burbank]

There are no amenities. But you were just sitting in. There's, like, four rows of seats. Camaro. Kev was watching this in Philly and I kept trying to text him and tell him where to look for me.

[Andrew Walsh]

Huh.

[Luke Burbank]

In the background of the fight, you couldn't see me, but. But so it was. Yeah, it was like four rows, I think, you know, all the way around this octagon thing. And my guess is the closer you were to it, the. The sort of higher status you were. We were in the back row, so we're the lowest status people of the high status area. But it was also crazy because you. The way you get to this is you come out through the same tunnel the fighters do. And like, it's very hard to have access to this area. And so when I would. And I kept going back and forth because I had to go in the media tent to get stuff, and then we would go back there and wait and then they would bring me out to interview Dana White, etc. People were fist bumping me as I was coming in and out because they just. They saw that I was in an area that it's hard to get into. So I must be somebody.

[Andrew Walsh]

Which was weird. If Jamal Murray or Theo Vaughn want to drink, where do they get it? Or if they want like a.

[Luke Burbank]

Somewhere back.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know, from the snack of some sort of. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

I think they would have. Well, they would have maybe ordered it from the server or maybe they would have gone back into the tunnel or something. If they were in, they would not have gone into the media tent where I was.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

But if they had been in the media tent, there was tons of food and beverages there. There was an entire refrigerator of stuff. And then interestingly enough, after the fights, they swapped out the soda and they put beer in there. They put Bud Light in there. Which is kind of an interesting plot point with the Dana White thing because, you know, Bud Light famously came in for derision amongst the. The MAGA crowd because they actually, they. They made the huge mistake of sending a can of Bud Light to a trans influencer.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right.

[Luke Burbank]

And. And that was enough.

[Andrew Walsh]

And just ruined the shoot experience for everybody else. Right, Exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

Kid Rock can't even look at a can of Bud Light anymore, Andrew, without shooting it with some kind of a.

[Andrew Walsh]

Gun or shooting near it, as some.

[Luke Burbank]

Would have it or whatever.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

So. But, but interestingly enough, and this was the thing I kept asking Dana White about, trying to get a straight answer from him because they had signed the MMA or the ufc, had signed a deal with Bud Light. And he, Dana White, become like, became the number one Bud Light apologist. If you will, or fan or whatever. Like, he was totally. He was completely not in the cultural movement of the MAGA crowd about we hate Bud Light. And I was trying to get an answer is, was that financial or was that because you actually think it's kind of silly that Kid Rock would shoot at cans of Bud Light, and he said he thought it was silly that Kid Rock would shoot at cans of Bud Light. So I was trying to figure out ways in which this guy, Dana White, does not necessarily always follow the pattern of what the prevailing. Like, I was trying to figure out how MAGA the guy is, and I actually think he's not super maga. He just really likes Donald Trump. Like, they're personal friends, and he's. He's not. Again, he doesn't see Donald Trump as doing huge harm in the world the way like you and I do. But he's also not, like, he's not right down the line on all of the politics of. Of the MAGA movement.

[Andrew Walsh]

He's.

[Luke Burbank]

He's a guy who just has a buddy named Don that really likes mma and he really likes this guy. And also he agrees with a lot of his policies. Actually, the thing that really radicalized Dana White, as I found out, was Covid, because he wanted to have UFC fights during. COVID Covid. And the governor of Nevada, who was a Democrat at the time, said, no, you can't even have a fight in an empty arena. And that really, really ticked Dana White off. And it totally, like, changed his, like, it hardcore. It. It hardened his sort of already probably somewhat like, libertarian leanings. And so then they went and they did, like, would you be surprised to hear that they were allowed to have their fights in Abu Dhabi?

[Andrew Walsh]

That actually kind of rings a bell.

[Luke Burbank]

Famously liberal society. Bring it on over.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

So anyway, the live.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think the live golf course also offered some opportunities to have fights in Saudi Arabia.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, right, exactly. So. So anyway, yeah, it was a. It was a. Interesting weekend of being around so much. Kind of like what you would call, I guess, like, the idea of masculinity, but not the idea of it that you and I necessarily embrace. But it's just everywhere, and everyone's having such a fun time. Time, and it's. It's weird to be immersed in a world where no one is that upset about Donald Trump being the president.

[Andrew Walsh]

Not only not upset, but pretty stoked. Pretty stoked, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Like, it's. I just don't. I don't spend a lot of time in that world. I'm usually in My liberal bubble, or I'm with people who every single day we have to give ourselves an eye bath after reading the New York Times. And this was just like being around thousands of people who were unperturbed about the state of the world, you know? And that is a very. That's a unique experience for me these days. I'm rarely in those spaces. And it was like, it's. I gotta be honest with you. It's nice work if you can get it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

You know what I mean? Like, it's. It's great to not have to deal with the reality of what's going on in our world and particularly our country. Like, it's really great to just be hanging out and fist bumping Theo Vaughn and not worrying about the end of democracy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do you remember Andy Haynes had. I believe he had a bid on this that actually, I think might have even changed a little bit. I feel like I saw two different versions of it on social media at some point where he was just talking about how fun. He's like, you guys don't understand. Like, it's just. It's fun to be a Republican. He's like, I'm over here, like, not eating meat. And these guys have motorboats. Like, guys, they're just here. Can I try playing? I don't know if it's gonna work or not. And also, let's see if the audio will work. I know that he has different versions of these, and I think one of them might lean into the blue a little bit. So I could be wrong about that aspect of it. But I guess, you know, consider this a warning if you're not into salty language, which may or may not be included here.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm from Seattle, but I'm married into a very conservative family, so I'm very liberal.

[Andrew Walsh]

My mom's a Subaru Outback and Eddie Bauer edition. And. But I'll say this.

[Luke Burbank]

The conservative family's so much more fun. They're so much more fun. Cause I'll go home to, like, a Seattle event, and they'll be like, we're having a vegan macrobiotic spread. I put out a piece of parchment for everybody to write their gratitude list on. And for dessert, we're gonna thank the moon. And then I go to my conservative family's house, and they're like, we're having.

[Andrew Walsh]

Beer, we got ribs, and after dinner, we're gonna sh. Hogs from a helicopter. Like, that does sound more fun. That sounds like a lot more fun.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm vegan, and that sounds fun.

[Andrew Walsh]

I swear he has another one. It's so good. I know. There's another one too where he talks about just like they're guys, they're, they have motorboats. Anyway. Yeah, so. Yeah, no, I, I fantasize about that sometimes. I'm like, what would it be like just to like kind of not care about the things that we care about and just like not be outraged all the time by what is happening around me. Like I was literally fantasiz about that this weekend. And just like all this anxiety and like again, like I'm never going to give up my morals but like, it's just, it's hard to not sometimes think about it. Like, I guess I could just turn on. If I could turn off my moral compass completely, I could just maybe understand why people are excited to celebrate the 4th of July this year. Because right now I'm just like, I don't understand how you could possibly do that.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, yeah, I mean, was very sort of intoxicating in a way to be around a bunch of people that are not just like super panicked and. But the problem with that is, the problem with not being super panic is of course it's not you and I who are really under threat.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right, right.

[Luke Burbank]

That's the problem. To be unsuper panicked is to then be not worried about the fate of a bunch of people that kind of have a hard time maybe advocating for themselves or having the political capital to stand up for themselves. And that's where. So that's what like. So Saturday night was like, this is really fun. And then I wake up Sunday morning and I'm like, no, I'm back to being stressed about. I'm reading the New York Times and I'm back to being freaked out. Mostly for other people's sake, not for my sake, but I was, it was almost like, you know, it was like code switching in a way on Saturday night. It was like, yeah, I'm here, I'm. I'm white, I'm in a suit, I'm talking to Dana White. Everyone thinks I'm somebody. No one is stressed out about Iran in this room. It was a really, was a, it was a wonderful little three hour vacation from my real, my real thoughts about the world.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do they have any of those meatballs that sort of like kind of float in the gravy or any like, anything like that?

[Luke Burbank]

I think there was like a turkey meatball sub that I think the people, people were eating around me that looked really, really good.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe a little cilantro on that.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, you're really in it for the snacks.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, I told you, I told you. I'm actually interested in this for a change. What kind of dipping sauce buses we.

[Luke Burbank]

Was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark.

[Andrew Walsh]

Get set, get set now.

[Luke Burbank]

Ready, Ready, Go, everybody.

[Andrew Walsh]

Razzle dazzle.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, well, well. No sooner had I said we had thanked our last dazzling donor than we found one more dazzling donor. It's David Bratt.

[Andrew Walsh]

Of course. It's David Bratt of Edmonds Wash. Culturally, Edmonds washroom.

[Luke Burbank]

David says I want to start off by shouting out fellow delayed dazzler, Sarah Nichols Smith. Sarah gave me very helpful answers to a couple of real estate related questions that I sent her away. In fact, I think I now owe her a response to one of her helpful emails. This is how the listeners are communicating by way of the dazzling donor message. Sarah, I will get back to you soon and hopefully via a cheaper method than my dazzling donor.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love that, that I, that. That has some real Prairie Home Companion energy to it. People just communicating through the show.

[Luke Burbank]

Somebody needs to bring that back. By the way, not Pray Home Companion or, or maybe Pray Home Companion, but that, that thing that. Where Garrison Ker would read those little like, what would you call messages, like after the intermission or something. Coming back from intermission, they were like.

[Andrew Walsh]

Kind of like shout outs. Would it be like, David will be home soon, but don't forget to feed the dog dinner because our plane is late. I think the closest we get to that is our blurs day messages. That's why I love a blurs day message that just has one great. Even if I don't understand the inside joke between the people, just like one great little insight into your personal relationship.

[Luke Burbank]

Sarah and Dale from Bemidji. Tell dawn, yes, we'll be home late. We're bringing some leftover lasagna and we'll.

[Andrew Walsh]

Put it in the fridge for you. Some hot plate. Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, exactly. Here's what David says to you dummies. Colon, thank you for helping me and my fellow federal employee tens get through the first half of this year. It's been rough. Well, David, that's exactly to the point of why we can't. We can't all just enjoy the. What, the blissful ignorance of the ufc, Right? Because there are people like David that are federal employees and their very jobs and lives are very much under threat right now. In the spirit of giving me and possibly others a date to look forward to, that's not related to politics. I was hoping that you could answer the following. Assuming that Luke doesn't move back to Seattle and Andrew doesn't move out of Seattle, at what point will Andrew have lived in Seattle, Seattle longer than Luke? I think we need to start planning for a peaceful transition process.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wow.

[Luke Burbank]

Andrew takes the title of longest tenured Seattleite from Luke. What would that process be? What would I hand you, like a Starbucks cup?

[Andrew Walsh]

You would hand me one of those Starbucks mugs that has the Space Needle on it or something like that.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. It will definitely happen at the Space Needle. This, this, this peaceful transition of power. It'll happen at a taco time under the space need needle.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't think that we're in danger of that ever happening anytime soon, but it's actually kind of interesting to explore a little bit because you, you were born in Seattle and you.

[Luke Burbank]

I was born in Northern California.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that's right. So what age did you.

[Luke Burbank]

I didn't get there until about four, I think.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. Okay. So good correction. I'll. I'll accept that correction. No, so that's. So that's four. And. But you did not move away until after college. Right? Right.

[Luke Burbank]

So, yeah, well, after. Well, after. I lived there for probably 20. Well, let's see. I, I think we moved in 2001 maybe. So it would have been like 1980 to 2001. Was that 21 years?

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, 21 years you spent and then moved back. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And probably came back in. I don't know. Well, 2008, because that's when TBTL started.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, okay. Yeah. You moved back for. To 2008. I got here in 2009. You were on the, you were on the air on Cairo for a year before I moved here. So. So you were here from 2008 until. And then when did you. Your next move would have been to Port Townsend, is that right?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, so. And that's. And you never moved back since Port Townsend. When did you move to Port Townsend?

[Luke Burbank]

Great question. I don't know the answer to that.

[Andrew Walsh]

But I'm going to say 20. I was in LA, I believe. So we're going to put that at 2014. We're doing this for the dazzling donor. We have to be. We have to be thorough here. So that's six years. I'm going to make six years. Six year plus 20. That's 20. 27 years. Now, keep in mind, I didn't even get here until 2009. Right. I think it's at the beginning of 2009. And so that means it's, you know, in 20, 19 would have been 10 years plus six, so 16. But then I spent two of those in LA, so if I might have messed up some of the math there, but I'm hovering around 14 years right now, so we have. Have quite. I'm like, halfway there maybe.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. You need like, what, 12 more years? 14.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, maybe 13 more years or something like that. So, I don't know. I mean, I guess that gives us enough time to prep for the. For the celebration.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Well, there you go, David. That's the answer to your question again. We need to. When we get closer to it, Andrew, we need to figure out what the actual ceremony is going to look like.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, but.

[Luke Burbank]

But we're still. We got 12 years to. Or 12 to 14 years to think about.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's a funny question because it's. It gets at the heart of how uncomfortable I was, how joyous I was, but uncomfortable I was when I pointed out to you at a certain point that I had been on TBTL as a regular contributor to the show longer than Jen Flash Andrews. And of course I love Jen and have deep admiration for Jen in every way. Wish I were more like Jen in a lot of ways. She wouldn't have gone on about Jared Kelnick at a Monday. She might, maybe, but it would have been more about, like, what he wore to the minor league.

[Luke Burbank]

There would be a whole bit.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'll tell you what, it'll be more thought out if she comes in with Kelnick content. It's more thought out than whatever I'm barfing up mid thought. But thank you for the donation, David. But anyway, yeah, so I do remember, though, realizing at a certain point, as somebody who was once a fan of this show and not participating at all, realizing, oh, I've been doing this longer than even Jen's tenure was, which made me both sheepish but proud in a certain way.

[Luke Burbank]

It's like when you realize you're older than your parents ever were.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right? Dude, I think I'm older than my dad was when he married my stepmom. I know that that does not mean much to the listeners, but for me, I was thinking about that the other day. I'm like, wait a second, I'm older than my dad was when he got married for a second time and they're still married and have a. But I mean, they've been together a long time. And I'm like, wow, I am.

[Luke Burbank]

And you probably thought of your dad as being pretty old when he did that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And I was like a teenager. Right. I think I was in high school at the time or whatever. But you know, my dad, I was just like. Yeah. And like, wow. Like, well, really what I thought was I should be on my second marriage now. Really.

[Luke Burbank]

Honestly, I'm really falling Genevieve doing all this yard work. You might want to stick. You might want to stick with her.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know. I'm really caught here.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. David, by the way, says thanks to you two. Could you send. Send me out with the ladies bong from Fiji drop?

[Andrew Walsh]

Of course. But I need you to cover for me a little bit here, Luke, because I don't have it right in front of me.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, he says, could you play me out with the ladies bong from Fiji drop question mark. And then he signs it Dave.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, so you bought me a little bit of time there, and I think I have exactly what you're looking for. I need to just. Well, I think I did this last time, too. I think we're just going to sort of empty out the folder here on all of these. This is, of course, Paul Pearson. This one was created from a wooden vase from Fiji. Unsure what type of timber, but it's a ladies bong for ladies. And while we're rolling, it's my new favorite bong. I wish I could smoke it. And then this one, the comedy factor speaks for itself. It's just painfully obvious. Yeah, yeah. It's an unfulfilled prophecy. It just has to be played out. I mean, he gets so serious there at the end.

[Luke Burbank]

I love that he's like, the comedy speaks for itself. What does he say after that? Something that's very like.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. It goes from being comedic to being deeply serious.

[Andrew Walsh]

Deeply, deeply serious. And of course, what we learned recently, or what we reminded ourselves recently was he was talking about building like some sort of lar. Oh, because there's a town called Wooden Bong. Right. And he wanted to build a large recreation of a wooden bong for the center of town. And it was somewhat controversial.

[Luke Burbank]

I feel like I've been referencing that guy a lot on the show lately.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Like I've been saying, you know, the comedy, it's. And I always say it wrong too, which is really fun for the listeners itself. Well, Dave, thank you for supporting tbtl. We really appreciate you and we couldn't do this without you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Here I go once again with the email. Every week. I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man. It's not from a female.

[Luke Burbank]

All right, do we have an Email or V mail that we should wrap things up with today.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, you know, I got, I got a couple here I could play. I don't know how much time we have. I will say this. I am woefully behind on the voicemails. I'll check in every now and then and listen to one or two. But I know we have quite a bit of a backlog that I need to get to, especially now that we got that, that billboard up. We even recorded a new outgoing voicemail for it. By the way, I've been keeping an eye on it. It does not look like we're getting phone calls from strange phone numbers yet. You know what I mean? Like, we did have somebody take a.

[Luke Burbank]

Picture with the billboard. Andrew.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that's right, a listener. Do you have that listener's name in you? By.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know if I, and I was asking John if we, if we were familiar with this person and the, the name did not strike me as somebody that we've interacted with a ton. But somebody got out to friendship and took a picture with the billboard.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know it's a great selfie style photo. I think a lot of our listeners are familiar with that style of photo right in front of the billboard. Like so this person, at least 110, has seen this billboard, billboard, IRL before. We have, we have not gone up to it. We have not touched it, we have not laid hands on it yet.

[Luke Burbank]

I was showing people at the swimming pool a picture of this person with our billboard.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did you show Theo Von our billboard?

[Luke Burbank]

I wish I would have thought of that.

[Andrew Walsh]

That would have been. I think, I honestly think he would have thought it was funny.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, he would have. Again, he was a very nice dude. Yeah, he would have.

[Andrew Walsh]

I believe that. Like that's the, that's why I kind of want to know, know how people feel about him. Because I have a strong feeling that if I were hanging out at a party and he started talking to me, I think I would immediately like him.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, I think you were. I, based on my experience with him, I think you would have that experience with him. He was very, very affable. He is like, if you look up affable in the dictionary, you see a picture of him.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And so if he wanted like a little mini corn dog or something, he would have to go back to the media tent.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. And, and, but, but they may have swapped out the mini corn dogs for pizza. That's what they did at the end. So they had a whole. It was coral. So when you Got in there. There was salad. There was like, you know, diff. There was like entrees. And then, then they took the entrees away and then they brought out pretzels and mustard.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

And there was always popcorn the whole time, Andrew. There was popcorn.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, I love popcorn. And there was this pizza. Good pizza. Or is it like one of those wood fired pizzas?

[Luke Burbank]

Wait, most people think of that as good.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know, my friend, but most people. Most people voted for pizza. Like, what do you want to me to do?

[Luke Burbank]

So after they. So then when we came back after the final fight of the night, then they had put out pizza that was. It wasn't wood fired, but it wasn't. It also wasn't like Pizza Hut, but it was somewhere in between. And it looked really good. I didn't have any of it because I'm, you know, my body is a temple and. But it looked good. People were enjoying it. But like there was multiple different kinds of foods. And like I said, that's when they brought the Bud Light out. They decided the media was allowed to drink Buddha light after the fight.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah, sure. At the end. Well, that sounds wonderful. I'm gonna play a voicemail for you here, Luke. This is. And this is sort of why I bring up the backlog on the voicemail line. This was a voicemail. I actually listened to this a few weeks ago and kind of put it aside because I was so bummed at myself. This was a voicemail that only had relevance really on one day. And it was the day that I had my colonoscopy. Now that was like a month and a half ago now or something. And of course, I had talked a lot about my prep going into that procedure, my anxiety going into that procedure. Everything is good. I don't have to go back for another seven years, I guess like six years and a month and. And ten and a half months.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, you got a better. I have to go back in three years.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know I was really colon than I do. I know I have. Well, I've been. I had. I put bets that I had a better colon than you do. Anyway, I love this voicemail that we got the day that I was sleepily going under so that could check out my insides.

[Luke Burbank]

This is Nancy a Ken in Seattle wishing Andrew the best possible outcome. He should be going through things right now for the colonoscopy and I wish him well. And hello to all three of the biz brothers. Have a good day too. Bye now.

[Andrew Walsh]

I've had that living on my desktop Dude, I listen to it every now and then, Nancy. It makes me feel so good. And I'm just so bummed that we didn't have that as like intro tape the day of my. Or the day after my colonoscopy or whatever. What a sweet message from Nancy. And I don't think, you know, I don't know if we've emailed with Nancy before, but I did not recognize her voice as somebody that like, kind of calls in a lot. I just. That really warmed my heart.

[Luke Burbank]

And again, it was worked. Nancy wished you luck.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

And you got. You had a good bill of health.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

Better bill of Nancy. Why didn't you call when I was getting my colonoscopy?

[Andrew Walsh]

Because.

[Luke Burbank]

Because of not calling, I got a three year. I got to go back in three years.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I just deleted that one. I was like, luke, why you are so cruel? Why you care about that guy? All right, what do you want to do? Do you want to hear another voicemail or do you want to get out of here?

[Luke Burbank]

I want to hear one more voicemail.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, one more voicemail. This is more of an informative voicemail. I don't remember exactly how we got on the top topic of Denny's, the. The restaurant Denny's, but I think we were joking around.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I think I thought maybe Denzel was the full name of whoever Denny.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is at some point. You're like, maybe it was founded by somebody named Denzel or something along those lines. And somebody actually is a fact checking cuz for us out there.

[Luke Burbank]

Nice.

[Andrew Walsh]

Hey, friendos. Just listening to Wednesday's episode and you guys were talking about. Actually it was probably Tuesday's episode now that I think about it. Anyways, you guys were talking about Denny's and what it is potentially short for. And I have an answer. It's not short for anything. But the original Denny's was actually a restaurant called Danny's. And when they went to franchise it, apparently a decision was made to change the name to Denny's. And I discovered this this very late at night, one night in high school, probably after imbibing various substances and standing in the lobby, there was a painting of a Denny's. And on the sign it actually said Danny's not Denny's. And me and my friends were laughing about how whoever had painted it had messed up it up. And then the waitress actually then educated us on why that was the fact.

[Luke Burbank]

And.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. So power out. Have a good day. So I love this as a fact, and I believe it, but I just want to point out to everybody that I did not go and verify this. And I am just trusting this memory. A high teenager of a teenager under the subject substance years ago. I believe it. Danny's. It is.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Absolutely. No, that. That's. That. That checks out.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

By the way, that's also exactly my. That would have been. My move would be to assume that the person who painted the painting did a bad job. That they were like, what a. They don't even know it's Denny's. They call it Danny's.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, those idiots get indignant on it right away.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. And then it would be, I. I wonder what they thought was better about Denny's versus Danny's.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, me too.

[Luke Burbank]

I wonder why. What. Why that. Why that conversation happened. They were like, you know, this is place. This place is never going to take off if it's still called Danny's. But if we name it Denny's and we have something called a Moons over Miami, we might be able to build a business.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe there was already somebody with a SAG card with the name Moons over Miami. I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

They changed it at Ellis island to Denny's because Danny's was too Jewish.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. That's exactly how it went down.

[Luke Burbank]

What was that? Did we get a name on that person leaving that voicemail?

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, I have it labeled as anonymous here, so I don't think they left.

[Luke Burbank]

Thank you, anonymous person, for. For hipping us to that fact. I am now going to be boring everybody with that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Don't fact check my life. Do not fact check it. That's.

[Luke Burbank]

Do not let the facts get in the way of a good story.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, no, no, no, no. We here, we have all the facts we need.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. In the land of no facts, the man with one fact is.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. I'll try to play it at the end of the show. I think that's from the movie in the Loop, by the way. I highly recommend it.

[Luke Burbank]

I need. That's Ianucci, right? That's the guy that did.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, Veep and a whole bunch of other things. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Need to watch that. All right, thank you for listening, everybody. We are going to be back here tomorrow, I promise, with more imaginary radio. Allegedly. I will be home finally. So that's going to be exciting for me. Anyway, in the meantime, have a great Monday. Take care of yourselves. Go, Mariners. And please remember, no mountain tall.

[Andrew Walsh]

And good luck to all.

[Luke Burbank]

We have all the facts on this.

[Andrew Walsh]

We need. We don't need any more facts.

[Luke Burbank]

In the land of truth, my friend. The man with one fact is the king.

[Andrew Walsh]

Power out.