#4508 A Boy Named Zoo

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL Episode #4508 "A Boy Named Zoo"

Release Date: July 11, 2025

Host: Luke Burbank
Co-Host: Andrew Walsh
Podcast: TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live
Description: Daily show hosted by two longtime friends navigating the world with humor and camaraderie.

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1. Opening Banter & Sleep Deprivation (00:00 - 05:10)

The episode kicks off with a humorous debate between Luke and Andrew about sleep. Luke quips, “Honestly, we shouldn't really be sleeping at all. [00:04]” leading to a playful analogy comparing sleep to treats like Sour Patch Kids or cigarettes. The conversation takes a wild turn as Luke shares an absurd story about supposedly not sleeping for eight months due to being stung by multiple bee swarms, humorously dismissing it as mere sleep rather than a coma.

Notable Quote:

• Luke Burbank ([00:04]): “Honestly, we shouldn't really be sleeping at all.”

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2. Weekly Highlights & Personal Updates (05:10 - 15:00)

Luke transitions into sharing personal updates, mentioning his return to the Madrona Hill studio and preparations for a family gathering with his six siblings. He reflects on recent travel woes, including a delayed flight from Dallas and a chaotic journey from New York City to Manhattan, Kansas. Andrew relates by discussing similar travel frustrations and the impact of these disruptions on their schedules.

Notable Quote:

• Luke Burbank ([00:29]): “Guess what day it is. It's Friday. Gonna get down on Friday.”

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3. Sports Talk: Mariners Game Breakdown (15:00 - 35:00)

A significant portion of the episode delves into Andrew’s emotional response to a recent Mariners game loss. They dissect specific game moments, discussing players like the relief pitcher “Beter” and batter “Mastrobony.” The hosts humorously critique the terminology used in baseball commentary, expressing frustration over unconventional player names and game strategies that prevented key matchups.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Walsh ([07:05]): “I think it's a high leverage pitcher.”
• Luke Burbank ([06:16]): “There's something about the vibe of this that is different than us saying to our neighbors over the fence…”

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4. Neighborhood Interactions & Community Stories (35:00 - 55:00)

Shifting gears, Luke discusses his experiences with neighborhood email lists, highlighting both the paranoid and the sweet interactions among neighbors. He shares an anecdote about a neighbor organizing a foster puppy meet-up, pondering the etiquette of taking apples from neighbors' trees versus handling garbage concerns. Andrew weighs in with thoughts on communal sharing of resources versus personal boundaries.

Notable Quotes:

• Luke Burbank ([10:06]): “The moment they start growing, they're all picked already.”
• Andrew Walsh ([12:34]): “It just seems like it's a natural resource and a bounty that, within reason, should be shared with everybody.”

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5. U2 Discussion: Music and Tours (55:00 - 75:00)

The hosts engage in an in-depth conversation about the band U2, their "Zoo TV" tour, and specific music videos like “Stuck in a Moment You Can't Get Out Of.” They reminisce about attending live U2 concerts, discussing the band's evolution and the creative aspects of their performances. Andrew humorously declares, “Bono, 100%” when comparing U2's video efforts to cinematic endeavors by directors like Oliver Stone.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Walsh ([22:05]): “It's like they stepped out and they did this one song that's pretty kind of a style.”
• Luke Burbank ([33:02]): “Bono, 100%.”

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6. Local Business Spotlight: Little Red Hen Bar Drama (75:00 - 85:00)

A significant segment covers the ongoing tensions surrounding Seattle's Little Red Hen bar, one of the city's oldest establishments. Luke and Andrew discuss the fallout from a verbal agreement between the bar and the neighboring Wooden City Tavern regarding dumpster usage. The termination of this agreement by the property owner has led to increased trash management fees, threatening the bar's viability.

Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Walsh ([60:13]): “The Little Red Hen, which I didn't know until you sent me this story, is, I believe, 92 years old.”
• Luke Burbank ([63:09]): “We're choosing to concentrate our attention on the things and people we can build up and connect to.”

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7. Blurs Day: Birthday Messages & Listener Shoutouts (85:00 - End)

In the final segment, Luke and Andrew deliver heartfelt birthday messages to listeners and friends, known as “Blurs Day Messages.” They read various greetings, celebrating personal milestones and expressing gratitude toward their listeners. This segment underscores the show's community-focused and affectionate nature.

Notable Quotes:

• Luke Burbank ([90:06]): “Hello and welcome to Top. I'll try to keep this short because I, you know, I'm full of stories about travel woes.”
• Andrew Walsh ([95:02]): “I mean, you should be in that helmet.”

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Conclusion

Throughout Episode #4508, Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh seamlessly blend personal anecdotes, sports commentary, community interactions, and cultural discussions, all infused with their signature humor and camaraderie. Notably, the episode highlights the challenges of maintaining local establishments amidst rising operational costs and property conflicts, reflecting broader themes of community and sustainability. The inclusion of heartfelt listener messages at the end reinforces the podcast's dedication to building a supportive and engaged audience.

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Key Takeaways:

• Travel Challenges: Both hosts faced significant travel disruptions, leading to humorous yet relatable stories about managing unforeseen delays.
• Sports Fandom: A passionate and detailed analysis of a Mariners game showcases the hosts' deep investment in their favorite team.
• Community Dynamics: Discussions around neighborhood interactions highlight the complexities of communal living, balancing generosity with personal boundaries.
• Cultural Engagement: An extensive conversation on U2 reflects the hosts' diverse interests and ability to engage in varied topics.
• Local Business Impact: The Little Red Hen bar's struggles symbolize the broader issues facing longstanding local businesses in changing urban landscapes.
• Listener Connection: Blurs Day Messages emphasize the podcast's strong connection with its audience, celebrating listener milestones with warmth.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Luke Burbank ([00:04]): “Honestly, we shouldn't really be sleeping at all.”
• Andrew Walsh ([07:05]): “I think it's a high leverage pitcher.”
• Andrew Walsh ([22:05]): “It's like they stepped out and they did this one song that's pretty kind of a style.”
• Andrew Walsh ([60:13]): “The Little Red Hen, which I didn't know until you sent me this story, is, I believe, 92 years old.”
• Luke Burbank ([90:06]): “Hello and welcome to Top. I'll try to keep this short because I, you know, I'm full of stories about travel woes.”

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This episode encapsulates the essence of TBTL: a blend of humor, personal storytelling, and insightful discussions that resonate with both longtime listeners and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Most people are sleeping too much.

[Andrew Walsh]

So how much should we be sleeping?

[Luke Burbank]

Honestly, we shouldn't really be sleeping at all. Wow.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

That's interesting. Sleep should be treated like a treat.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like Sour Patch Kids or cigarettes or something.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly like. Yes, like cigarettes. I'm glad you said that. It's a once in a while. Maybe you're a social sleeper.

[Andrew Walsh]

When's the last time you slept?

[Luke Burbank]

The last time I slept was about eight months ago. I was stung by several forms of bees simultaneously.

[Andrew Walsh]

To me, there's nothing worse than when multiple swarms are organized and working together.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, unfortunately, nobody could see me because I was covered by the swarms. And so it just sort of looked like, you know, a mound with a bunch of bees. Sort of a writhing mound of bees. Exactly. My body completely shut down and I slept for about a week straight. Some people are going to call that a coma. It wasn't. I was sleeping. Tbtl. Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. It's Friday. Friday. Gonna get down on Friday. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. I hear the words you're saying and I believe you believe it's important. Can you say hot dog? Hot dog.

[Andrew Walsh]

Thank you, baby.

[Luke Burbank]

Hot dog. Hot dog. I died.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know what that was. I don't. I don't know what that was.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, my God.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, my God.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is a whole new level of nerd. Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Yeah, everyone's got a podcast. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. First things first, I love my job coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio. Bring it back home, baby. Bring it back home. Perched high above the mighty Columbia. Ah, it feels great to be back home again. Although I think I got back at about 1:30 or 2 last night and. And then I woke up this morning and was out mowing the lawn at like 7am Because I've got this. Siblings get together. All of my. My six siblings are all coming over this weekend. Just the siblings, the Burbank kids. And we're having a weekend of fun and bonding together. I'm an activist and house party enthusiast and I'm trying to get everything spic and span. And I realize at some point this morning that's not gonna happen. And that's okay, my friends. That is okay. It's also more than okay that we've arrived at episode 4508 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. You know, getting home last night, well, the flight was delayed a bit out of Dallas, I think. Yeah, the Dallas flight was delayed. That wasn't great. But the real planes, trains, and automobilization of my life was on Wednesday afternoon, trying to get from New York City to Manhattan, Kansas. Oh, and the adventure begins again. I was on a conference call with the business boys in the back of the Uber and I was telling them it felt. For some reason, the thing felt like an action movie to me. I mean, the most boring action movie you've ever seen, but it felt like something cinematic. I was trapped in Times Square in a car, trying to furiously change airports to figure out if there was a way for me to get to where I needed to go. Anyway, we'll probably talk about that. And because we've been promoting this story all week. Excuse me. That's what happens, my friends, when you decide to hof down some Nally's spicy pickles right before the show during the audio intro to the show. That was such a foolish idea of me. I just got hungry all of a sudden. Because we've been promoting this story all week and we want to get it cleared off of the docket here. On this Friday, we'll talk about the dumpster disagreement that could take down one of Seattle's finest establishments, the Little Red Hen. I mean, trash is trash. Oh, and also, we have a special Friday edition of the Blurs Day messages.

[Luke Burbank]

My birthday today.

[Andrew Walsh]

We ran out of time on the Thursday show. And instead of giving short shrift to the folks who have been born this week, including my sister Liz, we are gonna give long shrift to them. And we're doing the Blurs days, normally a Thursday activity here on a Friday. And we're gonna do that all with the help of this guy. Speaking of party animals, I like to party.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you like to party?

[Andrew Walsh]

He's the longest running co bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Luke Burbank]

Good morning, Luke. It's funny that. Well, it's not funny that you choked during the intro. Obviously, we were all concerned for you. I don't wanna make you.

[Andrew Walsh]

I didn't see that coming.

[Luke Burbank]

I did. I saw you eating. I mean, I didn't see you. I didn't see the hiccup coming, I guess, but I did see you just pounding those pickles right before you opened your microphone. And I was like, huh?

[Andrew Walsh]

I want to be clear they're mini. They're like Cornish on size. I don't know why I need to clarify that.

[Luke Burbank]

I was wondering why that was a needed clarification. I wanted to ask you, though, I was going to start by kind of a.

[Andrew Walsh]

First of all, I don't appreciate you ever using the term.

[Luke Burbank]

Luke.

[Andrew Walsh]

You were pounding your pickles.

[Luke Burbank]

You were pounding pickles. I don't. Did you. This is such an inappropriate way to start the show, but did you. Well, I guess what I'm asking is, did you laugh at my joke yesterday? Because I was gonna say, did you see my blue sky joke? But then it occurred to me. I think I shared it with you guys on the text chain as well regarding a possible pitcher batter situation that could have been coming up. I think you were having some comms.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was having technical times because I was in and out of airplane mode.

[Luke Burbank]

I told myself, like, I wanted to ask you before the show. I just wanted to check in emotionally about how you're feeling. Yesterday was one of the worst losses in Mariners recent history, I would say, in the last few years. Like, no joke, Like, I was just an absolutely terrible, like, very, very, very, very painful loss for reasons we don't have to get into now because we're not. And I always say I look at myself in the mirror every morning. I say, this is not a sports.

[Andrew Walsh]

Podcast, but it's a podcast where we pound pickles.

[Luke Burbank]

This is a pickle pounding podcast. A pickle pounding podcast, not a sports podcast. That's what I say every day in the. But there was some exciting stuff going on early on in the game that we were all keeping an eye on. But then there was something else that I was keeping an eye on because at one point, the opposing team, the New York Yankees, put in a relief pitcher whose name was Beter. B E T E R. I'm assuming I'm pronouncing that correctly. I didn't have the audio on, but we also have a batter named Mastrobony. And I was so looking forward to a potential beater Mastro bony matchup. And we did not get it. We got within three hitters and then they. They swapped a beater out.

[Andrew Walsh]

They put in Chet Oninism. Right. Because he's a high leverage pitcher.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, I don't think I. I don't know that word, but from context, I think I just learned a new word.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think it's a highfalutin way to talk about self, about Master Bonies, about Master Boney.

[Luke Burbank]

I believe Master Boninism. What Is it again, it is poninism.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know if I've heard of high leverage pitcher BS show.

[Luke Burbank]

Probably not. I don't know if that's. But yeah, so that was yesterday.

[Andrew Walsh]

But.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh.

[Andrew Walsh]

Anyway, sorry about that. I'm sorry for my. For my lack of professionalism. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm more hungry than I would normally be this time in the morning because I've been up for a long time already out tilling the fields here at the Madrona Hill studio.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, speaking of agriculture, I did want. That's what I was going to say. I don't know if this is super interesting, but it was kind of a big moment for me this morning, too. When we dialed up and we're doing the sound check. Did you. I think you did notice that I was eating something. I was eating it kind of rudely and not.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I wasn't watching you. I heard something. I heard something being chomped upon because I've usually got my audio situation up. That's. That's. I don't. I don't have any idea what you do in that room, my friend, but comes to mind. Anyway, Keep going.

[Luke Burbank]

But what. I. I don't know if you could tell from the sound of what I was eating, but I was eating an apple and. And in the same way your pickles were mini. This apple was a very small little apple. It was only about three or four bites. And do you know why it was such a small apple, Luke? You don't. I'll just tell you. Because it was in your yard. No, but my neighbors did, like, down the street, like a block from here. I was walking to the grocery store yesterday. On the way home, I noticed that the apple trees are already apple in. I thought it was a little bit early in the year for that, but there's this one. So I. I'm obsessed with eating apples that are just like kind of freely available from the trees. On my walk to various places around the neighborhood, I like to know where those trees are. And so on my walk to the train station, where's the tree that grows twisted teas?

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm sorry? That's a shrub.

[Luke Burbank]

It's across from where Cindy's Diner used to be. But speaking of shrubs, there is like an apple tree that I pass on the corner of the. Whatever. One specific corner. And then as I continue towards the train, there's more of a bush. I don't. Can you have an apple bush? It's like a weird tree that's like, kind of low to the ground and bent over, and they never pick their apples, So I can always count on having an apple on the way to the train there. But then there's another one in the neighborhood that I've never been able to get an apple off of, because they must get one of those shakers or something, or they. The second this thing starts producing apples, they're gone the next day. I've noticed. I've seen this for, like, two years now. I'm like, these people must be very serious about their apple tree. Tree. Because the moment they start growing, they're all picked already. And I don't think that's just from neighborhood stuff, because I think that they're. Whatever. I've never seen it happen. But yesterday I'm passing that tree, and I'm like, whoa, is it apple time already? And nobody had picked any of the apples, so I grabbed two of the little guys, and I chomped on them. Probably could have grown a little bit more, but I figured I got to get my chances while I can.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, here's my question. If these folks are clearly treasuring their apples. Yeah, I heard that so much that they're picking them the second that they. Even maybe before they come to full maturation. Do you have any hesitation about. About then harvesting one of their apples as opposed to somebody who just, like, lets them totally mature and then drop on the ground and then whatever. Like, those are people that. You would probably grab an apple off their tree and they would. Is there any chance people might be annoyed that you're eating their apple?

[Luke Burbank]

Interesting. Literally had that thought about 45 seconds ago as I was telling the story, and I'm like, oh, wait, they cherish their apples. And I'm talking about how I got to them before they could pick their own apples. But I will say, I. I mean, of all of the things to feel kind of guilty about.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. That's why I hesitate to say that, because you.

[Luke Burbank]

You.

[Andrew Walsh]

You need to be, I think, nicer to yourself generally. I don't want to be introducing new reasons for you to be critical of yourself.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, it's just like, this is a. It's not like I. By the way, I do think there are some protocols involved. Like, I would never. I mean, obviously, I'd never walk onto somebody's property to take their food. Sure. I wouldn't even read. I wouldn't even, like, do something where it's kind of like, oh, I got to reach over this fence into the. I would never do that. I'm talking about apples that were literally hanging over my head on the sidewalk, and so I grabbed it. I'm wondering now, will some people say to me, now I'm just going to shadow box. This is it. The rest of the show. I did this. I'm sorry you pushed the Catholic guilt button. But somebody might say, oh, you know, you're so precious about nobody putting dog poop in your bins after they've been emptied. Like, but you can go around taking your neighbor's apples. And I'm trying to see if that's a fair comparison.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't think it's fair because, I mean, and this is a little bit squishy morally, but in my mind, if. First of all, I think it's very unlikely that there is somebody who has an apple tree in their yard or in. On their property, particularly out near the road where, like, every single apple that comes off of that tree is being harvested and utilized and canned and preserved and made into pies and applesauce. Whatever. It just seems like it's. It. It seems like it's a. It's a natural resource and a bounty that, within reason, should be shared with everybody. That is just my feeling about it. Whereas if someone throws a gross thing into your garbage can, they've just made your day and week worse because of their own laziness. I. I'm. I'm not making a strong. I'm not making an airtight moral or philosophical argument here.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm.

[Andrew Walsh]

My feeling on it is just if somebody. If I had an apple tree and a bunch of apples and one of my neighbors wanted to grab one, it would make me so happy.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, me too. That's.

[Andrew Walsh]

It would just be like, the bounty of the land is being enjoyed by we who live here. That's one kind of experience. And if I went into my garbage can and there was someone else's dog pooping, I'd be like, that's gross. Those are just so different in my mind.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, my gosh. That reminds me. This is what I wanted to tell you about today. This email came in a couple of days ago and I forgot about it. But it relates to a possible activity today. You know how I found myself on this neighborhood email list where it's an email list that isn't completely unlike Nextdoor, only it's not an app. It's just an email list that I find myself on sometimes. I'm irritated by neighbors who are, like, being a little bit too paranoid about poor people in the neighborhood or against, like, oh, they're Selling David's old house and I'm worried they're gonna put condos there. Like, that's not exactly how I roll. And so some of those annoying.

[Andrew Walsh]

There's a guy in the neighborhood drinking twisted tea out of a PA bag.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, are you on this? Did you see that too?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, that was my post.

[Luke Burbank]

So he said, can't we get him a paper bag? We can see that it's supposed to. I saw somebody drinking a twisted tea in the open. Can we get him a paper bag to put over his head? But anyway, so there is that aspect of this neighborhood email chain, but it's also kind of sweet. Sometimes people are just kind of like, hey, I got extra brownies if you want to come over. Or like, hey, I had extra tomato plants. That's what made me think of this. I think, Genevieve, you got some tomato plants from a. From a neighbor or some star starters or something from a neighbor because of this. So anyway, there's a sweet side to it too. Well, I got this email from somebody and I won't say the name, but I don't know most of these folks or if I met them. I can't connect them to their emails and their faces and their names or whatever. But somebody who lives one street over from me says, send an email with the subject line, my foster puppy needs to meet people. And then I clicked on it. It says, hello, everyone. I have an adorable foster puppy from the Washington D. German Shepherd Rescue. Hmm. I feel like we need. Oh, just. I guess it's from Washing Washington German Shepherd Rescue. I have had her for a couple of weeks now and have been terribly remiss and getting her out to meet more people. Would anyone like to come over this evening or Friday evening to pet the puppy? I can provide water, Lacroix and some dog treats in a chair. This will all happen in the front yard if you want to swing by. So I think I might. I might do. I might go pet a dog just for the sake of. I mean, I'm not usually somebody who's in.

[Andrew Walsh]

You can, in fact pet that dog.

[Luke Burbank]

I can pet that dog. And I might do it. Like, honestly, I'm not. So I'm usually. I usually pass over any kind of. I kind of don't want to get to know the neighbors too well, sort of.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, actually we're pretty friendly with several of our neighbors and our next door neighbors. We love and always invite them over if we're having a gathering or whatever.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, multiple things can be true. And I think a lot of people can relate to this. You can both totally like your neighbors and have a good relationship with them and also mostly not want to do things with them. Yeah, those are not mutually exclusive at all.

[Luke Burbank]

Especially something that seems like it's going to be like kind of a. More like kind of a proper little. Kind of like a. The neighborhood little get together. You know, there's something about the vibe of this that is different than us saying to our neighbors over the fence, like, hey, we're having a fire tonight. Just come on over. You know, like. Yeah. And I don't know this person, so I'll have to walk over there and introduce myself to people I don't know and puppies that I don't know. But it does seem like I'm like, listen, if a little cute puppy that they're just trying to socialize can't get me to socialize with my neighbors, then literally nothing can. Right? Like, this is.

[Andrew Walsh]

I almost worried this is a scam. Do they ask for your Social Security number for a background check and also your mother's maiden name?

[Luke Burbank]

Mother's maiden name? For sure. Yes, they did.

[Andrew Walsh]

Almost. This feels almost too good to be true. Puppy petting party.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. They're like free twisted tea. All the puppies you can pet. Yes. And step right here, right where this rope is tied to the tree.

[Andrew Walsh]

And also, we've somehow rigged it so that the Mariners relievers actually hold a five run lead in the eighth inning. This is all here for you, Andrew, if you would like to come visit.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, we don't have in our yard a TV that will be showing the Mariners facing Derek Skubal tonight.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, God, is that tonight?

[Luke Burbank]

I think that's tonight.

[Andrew Walsh]

Cause, you know, we're having this family get together, which I'm very excited about. And I was sad, very saddened by the Mariners game yesterday. Again, we don't have to get into it.

[Luke Burbank]

Eric. Not Derek. Sorry, I knew I was saying something wrong there. Go ahead.

[Andrew Walsh]

But the, but the weird. I wouldn't say silver lining, but the thought I had was, well, I guess that lowers the chances that David and I and Sammy will become totally locked in on a game this weekend. You know, had we, like, won that game. And then we're going and we're playing well against Tarik Skuba as a. As a. As a Tiger.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Detroit.

[Andrew Walsh]

Detroit.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Detroit. Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, like, you know, this will probably be a more fun. More in sort of what would it like, integrated weekend if. If me and my brothers, who are all Baseball obsessed are obsessing a little less on the baseball than normal. So I'm gonna. I'm going to thank. I'm going to thank the New York Yankees for that, Andrew, because I'm trying to, in these difficult times, find way to maintain some semblance of equilibrium. And the way I'm gonna do that is by saying, thank you, New York Yankees, for helping me not have any interest in watching Mariners games this weekend. Therefore, I will be just spending time communing and hanging out with my beloved siblings here at the Madrona Hill studio.

[Luke Burbank]

Thank you for being the tux medicated pad to my match with a flame on the end of it. As far as reaction for the Mariners.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes, exactly. Thank you for extinguishing whatever little bit of burning passion was left. And now I'll just be sitting comfortably on this chair without any discomfort at all. Thank you very much, Tux.

[Luke Burbank]

You'll just be sitting there watching an old tube TV with nothing on it, Just static.

[Andrew Walsh]

I feel like that's a scene in a horror movie, right?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like you just go into a room and somebody is watching something with great intent and then you realize they're not watching anything. And that's when you realize something's very off.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know what I'm doing today. I feel like you made it very clear at the beginning of the show that you have a lot of stuff you want to talk about, about your trav, which are interesting. And I honestly, I'm not doing it on purpose, but as I hear myself talk, I feel like I keep on getting us off topic on very, very stupid things. But this is the last thing I'll say. And then I'm not going to talk the rest of the show until the blurs days. But do you miss static? At Some point, our TVs just started giving us new screens instead of static. And there was something always kind of. I would sometimes put static on in my dorm room just to like, kind of like, you know, kind of give it an atmosphere.

[Andrew Walsh]

The reason I don't miss static is because I have a version of static in my life constantly, which is the white noise fan app on my phone. I know it's not technically static, but I think it kind of does the same thing.

[Luke Burbank]

That's audio though, right? I'm talking about like the.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, you look. Talking visual.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm talking about like our TVs stopped showing. Maybe static is the wrong word. But like, that was a very classic thing in the 80s. Like the snow on the TV or whatever when you get to a channel and nothing is there. But then something started happening in the 90s where if you, like, disconnected your cable, instead of the TV showing that static, it just would show a blue screen. I think they were trying to help us. You don't want to see this static.

[Andrew Walsh]

I probably thought people didn't like static.

[Luke Burbank]

Now you can't create static anymore. The TV is overriding.

[Andrew Walsh]

I can and I do oftentimes, and in many relationships.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, yeah. So.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, you're right, though. You're right, though. I mean, that is a very, very kind of sense memory, kind of component of being a person our age. From your childhood. Yeah, There was. It was a very common occurrence to somehow be dealing with static. You're trying to hook up the rabbit ears. Yeah. You're trying to. You're. You're putting it on the channel, which is the channel that you play the VCR on, but you haven't turned the VCR on yet or whatever. There's all these little kind of interstitial moments of static in your life while trying to watch tv because you were, like, somehow between things happening.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I don't even know if you could do Zoo TV today, honestly, because I feel like Zoo TV probably implemented static on that huge tower of televisions that Bono and the boys had.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that's what you were talking about. I was like, zoot. I wonder if that was a regional Cleveland television program. I totally forgot.

[Luke Burbank]

What, you can't keep up?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, no, just the fact that you. Here's what I think. I think you be, for a person who you've sort of described yourself as being at some point in your life, a kind of a counterculture sort of person, or at least, you know, you had periods where that really spoke to you. The. The ease with which you refer to U2, who I think of as being. What's the opposite of counterculture culture.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, who's that? We have a listener who's deep, deep, deep into U2. And so I cringe when I think of her, like, listening to me talk about you, too. Because the. Really, the. I was not that much into U2. Like, I even had a few records, and I just couldn't like them. And I don't even mean. This is. I don't mean this as an insult or that I think that they're not likable. Obviously, they are. I mean, they are absolutely cherished. But I just. Maybe because I had always heard of you, too, as being. Maybe the expectations were always too high for me that by the time I heard Them I was like, yeah, that's okay. Like, I like that Octung Baby album, which I bet you like maybe a lot of real YouTube heads. I don't know how they consider that album, but I remember getting Joshua Tree and being a little bit bored by it. Rattle and hum. I kind of like the weirdness of it. Kind of like, kind of, you know, some of it being live, some of it not being kind of weird.

[Andrew Walsh]

I like the famous Wisconsin oriented music cd.

[Luke Burbank]

I. Yes. And I love. Well, I like that. Cause I like the blues and I like it when Edge plays the blues. So I like it. But like, honestly, every. I just think you two. I. I think I have a weird like cultural fascination with them, but it's not very well informed. I don't even know if I'm right in saying Zoo TV or. I don't know.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think you're right.

[Luke Burbank]

Young Baby ends and Zoo tv. I look ins.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, few do even including Larry Mullen Jr. Anytime U2 comes up, I never miss a chance to wedge in the fact that he's Larry Mullen Jr. But. But no, I think you're right. I think that was like. That was a tour they did and I. I have a feeling that that involved a giant TV that was being on static or that was like a.

[Luke Burbank]

Whole stack of static power of them.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, because that was the other thing. I mean that's a kind of. That was also a signifier obviously for you two or whoever designed the sets for that tour of kind of like. What do you think? What. What does it. What does a tower of. Of static tv. So it basically says like this world that we live in is just an illusion, man. Right. I mean, that's what that says.

[Luke Burbank]

Or. Well, I don't want to miss. I don't want to misdescribe what it was. I think they had a whole wall of screens that were playing all kinds of, you know, is that very 90s? It was just like flashing this, flashing that. It was probably changing all the time. And my guess is you're going to get some snow in there or whatever. Whatever we call that static. Look, I'm just guessing that that's part of the. That's part of the bridge. I was helping my buddy with an audio project the other day. He's an artist and he's kind of doing this audio and visual studio show this weekend. And he was working on the audio component of it and he kind of had this loop. I don't know how to describe the sound, but it was multilayered kind of ambient sounds and stuff. And he kind of would loop it. And he said, every now and then I put a beep in there where it sort of loops. Just a very subtle little beep. And I heard. Or maybe I heard that in the track. I was like, I kind of like that. There's something that is, like, old school about that. Like, you need little bridges like that. Like a little beep, like, kind of resets your brain. Like a voicemail beep that I'll sometimes, like, artificially insert between voicemails if I'm playing them on the show or whatever. It's like static does the same thing. It's like this little. It's like. It should just be a little glitch. But actually, I feel like we kind of need them from a production standpoint.

[Andrew Walsh]

Palette cleanser.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, yeah. Signifier. So I didn't realize this. So there was no album called Zoo tv. Zoo TV was a tour for Octung Baby and Zuropa. So there was a Zuropa album, but no Zoo tv.

[Andrew Walsh]

I believe I saw the Zuropa tour live. I've told this story before. At the Kingdome, I was doing. It was a Friday. I was wrapping up my shift at Metro Traffic Control, and I got a call from the Mummy. No, that's not true. I was wrapping up my shift at Metro Traffic Control on a Friday, and a person I worked with there said to me, hey, I've got these two free tickets to U2 that I don't want to use. Do you want them? And I was like, yeah, let me see if I can find someone. And I called on the landline, I called the Mummy, I said, hey, do you want to go see U2 at the Kingdome? And he said, sure. And so I got those tickets, and then we went down and we saw. I believe that was the Octung or the Zuropa tour.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, it was.

[Andrew Walsh]

I remember there was a giant. There was a. Like some kind of a giant egg on stage, but, like digital and with lots of things going on. And I do think they also had stacks of TVs around and stuff like that.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't think I knew this. You said that. You always say that. I. If you said that. Because I'm always. I'm always using that as, like, a weird cultural reference. Zoo tv. I didn't know that you are. You are among. You are a Zoo tv.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I got eyes on it. Yeah. I felt a hole in Bono's side.

[Luke Burbank]

Doubting Lucas. That's right.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

I remember having a fun time. I'M I would say that I'm sort of neutral on YouTube. It's not.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, me too.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's not the number one music I would line up for. But I will tell you, there are certainly some times where if I'm on a road trip and certain YouTube songs. Come on. I am not changing that station. I'm. And I'm on the record as a huge fan of the song angel of Harlem. Although you were talking about who's the guy who wrote atonement.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, Ian McEwen.

[Andrew Walsh]

You were talking about that Ian McEwan book that you've been reading and how it's a little cringe for you that, like, he's. His son is a. The character's son is a blues. Is a blues guy.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Because it kind of feels like maybe Ian McEwan's just kind of like a closeted blues guy or whatever. And I will say that, like, angel of Harlem does kind of feel like Bono is a closeted Harlem guy. There's something kind of.

[Luke Burbank]

It's very.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, the song is very soulful. Like, it has a great horn section. It's a really catchy number that it feels kind of, like, written by a white Irish guy to sort of. I don't want to say appropriate, but definitely reflect a certain kind of musical style that had preceded him.

[Luke Burbank]

This is a strong word, but almost fetishize the.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, just the tiniest bit. Now I'll give. That's. Now what I. What I think is. Is interesting is that it's not a go to, as I understand it. I love that now we're just.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm sorry.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I mean, I'm a. Listen, I'm a willing participant in this. I mean, honestly, this is felony murder of the listener's attention Sp. Meaning I drove the car. You got out and went in and did whatever you did. But the fact that I'm driving the car makes me equally culpable. But it was on me.

[Luke Burbank]

I was like, I need to steal some static.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I was like, okay. And he was like, but I. But give me a ride. And then you just come out and you just got, like, all this static. You're carrying it all. That is to say, it's interesting to me because I. What I. I really legitimately love that song angel of Harlem off of the Rattle and Humor album. But I don't think that that particular style is a huge go to for Bono or for the band, which I kind of actually give them credit on. In other words, it's like they stepped out and they did this one song that's pretty kind of a style. But then they've got a lot of other songs. I will give them credit that as their career has gone on, like, they got this other song, Stuck in a Moment, which is like, you've got to get yourself together. You got stuck in a moment and you can't get out or whatever the song is. That sounds very different than a lot of the other songs. It's really catchy. Also, the video is wild. The video is an NFL place kicker who keeps missing his kicks. That's. I said I have from my lips to God's ears. The YouTube video for Stuck in a Moment, I believe, involves the band U2, sitting in the stands of a football game. I know there's a place kicker who's having a hard time kicking the field goal in a YouTube video.

[Luke Burbank]

This. So this song, I'm just looking at it now. It's.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I might even have the name right.

[Luke Burbank]

You do. It's just a little bit longer. It's Stuck in a moment you can't get out of is apparently. Okay. And so. Okay, so it is like kind of a narrative video. There's a whole bunch of stuff going on. The band is laying in the street. A van is coming. There's a lot of traffic. It's at night. There's a lot of street stuff. I'm not getting any football.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was skip ahead.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. We're now more than halfway through. It's just the band kind of laying in the street. Now it's daytime. People are walking over them in the tree. Here's the deal, though. Do you remember U2 would release. Wasn't it U2 that released, like, two or three different videos for the song one? And I will say one was a song that really got me. But they had, like, two different iconic videos for the song one. So maybe there's a couple of different videos, but this one doesn't have any place.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Because Stuck in a moment, you can't get up.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh.

[Andrew Walsh]

The North American version, Andrew. The North American version. Here's the description. The concept of the video is an American football game with a rookie player who, if he makes the final kick, will win the game.

[Luke Burbank]

So you two did this a lot, or at least more than once. Creating different videos for the same song. That's kind of a brilliant thing.

[Andrew Walsh]

It just seemed so. I remember when I saw it, I thought, like, I. I'm shocked to hear that the Edge is aware there's something called American Football. It just seems so un to me, like, it's almost. And it's quirky. I remember, like. I remember a scene of like. Like, the kicker is just, like, stressing and he's sweating and it's like the whole thing is so kind of like, on you too. It's not, you know, Bono talking, you know, singing about where the streets have no name or, like, standing in a kind of. You know, everything about you two was so epic. Are you watching this video?

[Luke Burbank]

I just hit start at it and it's like, fake. Like, NFL.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Two helmets coming at each other and crashing. And then I see that the teams that are playing Luke. And I'm laughing because this ties in. Miami Sharks was this. I can't remember what day on the show we were talking. You said nobody should make an. Because I really have been thinking about this. You said nobody should make a sports movie if you can't get the rights. Because I was trying to. I was racking my brain. I thought for sure there'd be, like, a classic baseball movie that takes place in a fake mlb, but I guess not. But anyway, this is the Flies versus the Lemons. Both of these teams that are facing each other are 12 and 1. And this is the world championship between the Flies and the Lemons. Oh, my God. It's not. I've got to play this. It's got John Madden introducing it. Sorry, dude.

[Andrew Walsh]

I heard the guy by John Madden. Impressive.

[Luke Burbank]

And we're back at the unforgettable Fire Dome on this Sunday, Bloody Sunday. Lemons coach Dave Evans has definitely made some edgy plays, but there are only three words from Flies coach Paul McGinnis.

[Andrew Walsh]

Defense.

[Luke Burbank]

Defense.

[Andrew Walsh]

Defense.

[Luke Burbank]

Elevens are ahead 41 to 39. It's fourth down.

[Andrew Walsh]

There's three seconds left to go in the game. The rookie number one, Paul Hewson, ready to kick the biggest kick of his life.

[Luke Burbank]

The kick is no good. Lemons win.

[Andrew Walsh]

That was a short kick. Houston.

[Luke Burbank]

I hate to be Houston. I would really hate to be Houston right now. Oh, wow. Okay, now we're seeing the music kicks in. I gotta be careful here. We don't get pulled down now. Yeah, I guess. Listen, is YouTube in the. We should be able to play as.

[Andrew Walsh]

Much U2 as we want, considering they jammed it onto our ipods.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, that's right. We can't not play YouTube.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

Wow. You do remember this. And that is a shocking intro to a U2 song for. Isn't it just probably gonna be contemplative. YouTube.

[Andrew Walsh]

It seems like something the monkeys would do. I mean, that's what struck me, I remember back in the day about the video was. And I kind of liked it, but I was like, this is so out of the, the, the bounds of how I sort of think about these guys as being. And in fact, that's part of the thing about you too, that maybe if sometimes the music doesn't totally work for me, it's because there is a sort of self seriousness there that can be a little much. Yes, this is very much the opposite. I didn't realize that they had John Madden.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, this is. Yeah. Now he keeps on reach, I guess they're. They keep on like going back in time and he keeps retrying the kick. So you definitely remember that. I have never seen this before and it just seems like two very different tastes together here. So I got to ask, and then I'll put it in your court. And I'm sorry, you're on the spot here, but who did it better, Oliver Stone or bono?

[Andrew Walsh]

Bono, 100%.

[Luke Burbank]

As far as the recreation of a.

[Andrew Walsh]

NFL situation, because if I Remember right, the YouTube video is still sort of played slightly for camp, like, and they're calling it the Unforgettable Fire Dome, which of course is the name of a U2 record, I believe. The Unforgettable Fire. Oh, just a song.

[Luke Burbank]

Look at that. I didn't know that.

[Andrew Walsh]

So, like, they're being very kind of, like they're being very unprecious, I think, with their kind of music and their legacy. And they're being, I think they're kind of, if I remember right, they're just being kind of funny and silly in the video by U2 standards. And I love that. I will take that 100% over. Over Oliver Stone. And you know, his, his crew trying to create this like sort of hyper intense football world where they're like. And they're playing the Omaha Quakers. You just ruined it right then. You just had Al Pacino, who we've already established, and I think for the record, unofficially and unassailably is far too urban coded to care about football or know about football. Like.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

So no, I would take, I'll take, I'll take this YouTube video any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Any given. Twice on Sunday over what Oliver Stone did. How about you?

[Luke Burbank]

I think that you make a really good argument. I would say the same thing, although I just, just hadn't really thought about any given Sunday until I played that bit of tape the other day as a joke. And then the next day you and I accidentally break the whole thing. Down or you do, really? And the reasons why you felt like his coach talk doesn't work. And I think I was thinking about it more later and I think I've come up. Maybe I was editing the show. And so I re listened to that as beeping out the offensive words. And so I listened to it a few more times than you. I think another tell is the reason that is so clearly a monologue that was written to sound like a coach and honestly wasn't a coach or actually wasn't a coach. He never repeats a word. In other words, every football term he brings up is brand new and used again. And it's like somebody sat down. It's like when I'm trying to come up with a show title or something and you're kind of like, you sit down with a list of words or you know what I mean?

[Andrew Walsh]

You start like a play thesaurus.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, like somebody sat down. Some writer sat down and was like, okay, a bunch of football terms. How can I work these in here? And like, the way we talk, we repeat ourselves, we say the same thing, but like, never once.

[Andrew Walsh]

Especially if you're a football coach.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Probably the elite level of repetition would be NFL football coach.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, yes. And there's just. It lacked. It never occurred to me how cringy that was. But then it kind of got in my head a little bit. I'm like, yeah, like, nobody talks like this. Where every single idea being introduced is like kind of like a brand new concept, sort of.

[Andrew Walsh]

Meanwhile, I actually love that we played that whole thing at the end of the show. And I am like cracked up by this whole thing. I mean, because like, that would. That that movie was kind of a blind spot for me. You know what I mean? Like, I also think that's a movie. And I guess you could say trigger warning. I believe in that movie, a guy scores a touchdown and then pulls out a gun and shoots himself in the head on the field.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't even think I've seen. I mean, I think I've seen the movie once. And the only thing I remembered was a line that I egregiously got wrong on the show that I was trying to play at the end. I thought he used to. I thought Al Pacino yells, this is our house. Not in our house. I've been yelling at Genevieve across the house for years. I'm not gonna play it again. But it's just not that. It's at the very end of that two minute monologue that we played at the end of the show. And Then he just. He does say something like, not here.

[Andrew Walsh]

Not in our house. He says he was tivoing house. He was gonna watch that when he got home. We gotta wrap this up.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm tivoing house. That's what it was. No center of a house. I do think that he says something about our house, but it's just like, it's. I thought that, that. I thought he repeated it a lot. I thought he kind of kept saying it and then he did. And it's like, it would have been.

[Andrew Walsh]

A better scene, honestly.

[Luke Burbank]

That would have made more sense because.

[Andrew Walsh]

That is a thing. And it's not too late. Any given Monday.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's the follow up that you and I write, produce, film and star in.

[Luke Burbank]

We have to know. It has to be any given Wednesday. It has to be the one day of the week. That or Tuesday or Wednesday. Guess.

[Andrew Walsh]

Or the one that doesn't have football.

[Luke Burbank]

The week that don't have football.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah, but. But no, I. Now I'm like. I've gone from having, like, no thoughts on that movie to, like, kind of like delighting in how obviously unbelievably bad it is. Yeah. Like, at least to me.

[Luke Burbank]

At least.

[Andrew Walsh]

At least for me. And you know what? If you, if somebody watched that movie and it brought them joy, that's great. I don't, I don't want to tell them that they're. They're experiencing it wrong. But just as I said on the show the other day, I have a lot of annoying qualities. But maybe near the very top of the list is how uptight I am about any kind of sports portrayal. And if it has a false note to my mind because. Which is, again, not a fun way to be in the world, it'd be like if I, If I. Like, I loved the movie Searching for Bobby Fischer when I was a kid. It's a chess movie and I just thought it was so great and maybe it is so great. But, like, what if somebody who just. I don't know how to play chess at all, but if somebody knew how to play chess and they were just telling me all the reasons why that movie sucked because the chess was unrealistic, that would just only make it less enjoyable for me. A thing I had gotten joy from. So I really want to be careful that I'm not doing that. I'm just calling. I'm calling it out what it is, which is that I am insufferable when it comes to any topic that I think I have a lot of lived experience with. Even just as a fan and then the portrayal of it and then me policing if the people did it right or not.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, somebody comes up to me and tells me that Batman isn't a good movie because that's not how hand buzzers work. Not going to be very happy with that person.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, you're not. Or if they come to you and they say Batman was doing P90X while Vicki Vale was sleeping, and you're midway through your rebuttal and then you go to watch the footage, you go, oh.

[Luke Burbank]

He kind of wants more than any. And I'm just having this thought now as we continue. And I'm not apologizing for this, by the way, or even saying that it's necessarily a bad thing, but more than I can ever remember in TBTL history, this week of shows seems more like one long show that is broken up by days because we kind of feeling the same way, kind of keep hitting on the same things. But we need to. Though I'm not apologizing for. These are topics that need deeper discussion and exploration.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, it's. It's also been kind of an odd week because I've been in a bunch of different places and we had some technical times when I was in New York, where we were recording on the phone. And then later you were having to piece the show together that way.

[Luke Burbank]

And we were.

[Andrew Walsh]

We did an early recording on the Thursday episode because of my schedule. So there was a lot about the. A lot about the week that was kind of weird. But I actually was. I meant to text you. I was like. I think in like the last two episodes of the show that the people would have heard. So Wednesday and Thursday, I think I had a couple moments of laughing more deeply and more genuinely than I have in a long time. I can't even remember what you said, but there was a couple of moments where I was like, literally cracking up, doing this job. And I thought, well, that's pretty cool that this is our job and that I get to still actually have that level of pure, real kind of, you know, enjoyment of that, of doing this job. You know, that that's. That's pretty lucky for us.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I appreciate that. I got to say, too. And I, unfortunately, you'd think I'd remember what it was. I can't remember what it was either. But I do remember at one point this week making you laugh really hard. And that's just always a good feeling when you can make somebody laugh really hard. That is like a really good feeling. Hello and welcome to Top.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'll try to keep this short because I, you know, I'm. I'm full of stories about travel woes. And I have to say, I don't even know if this falls under the category of travel woe. It just was. It was kind of crazy what happened on Thursday. So we doubled up on the. Or on Wednesday, rather, we doubled up on the recordings on Wednesday because I had to try to get to a flight Wednesday night. The plan was I was going to fly from LaGuardia to Chicago and then down to Manhattan, Kansas, where I was interviewing Bridget Everett, the performer and star of Somebody Somewhere. And right as you and I and John were supposed to be having a meeting, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna call you from the cab. And right then is when I got a ping from the airline, American Airline, in this case, saying, your flight out of LaGuardia, your flight from New York to Chicago is delayed. And then I looked at when my flight was leaving from Chicago for Manhattan, Kansas, and I realized, no, no, I'm gonna be landing after that flight has taken off. So I was like, I gotta take evasive action. So I'm like on the phone with the travel people for cbs. I'm like on my computer, I'm trying to fix all this stuff. And I was pretty shocked. It turns out Manhattan, Kansas is. I know this sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but it is where Kansas State University is a major D1 university. It's pretty hard to get to if your flight gets messed up. Like, in fact, there was no way for me to get there. So it was. That was 4 o' clock in the afternoon maybe, or 5 o' clock in the afternoon, New York time on Wednesday, there was no way for me to fly to Manhattan, Kansas via any kind of connecting flight and get there any sooner than 2pm the following day. Like, even if I flew to Kansas City, which is a couple hours away, then there are no flights from Kansas City to Manhattan, Kansas anymore. If I flew to Chicago, there aren't any. There was nowhere that I could go that would get me to Manhattan, Kansas. And it's just rare that you're in that situation anymore in this modern world we live in. Usually if you are willing to pay enough money, you can get somewhere, generally speaking. And there was like no getting there. So they rerouted me to a different airport. I went to Newark and then I flew to Kansas City. But then after I hung up with you guys from our business call, Andrew. Oh, and by the way, I'm sitting in stuck traffic in Manhattan like An hour of my trip was just getting from where I was near Central park to the entrance of the Holland Tunnel. That's all within Manhattan. That's, that's three miles as the crow fly. Not even, that's two miles as the crow flies. That was an hour of the trip. And then the next 30 minutes was everything all the way out to New Jersey. That went relatively quickly. But like, what ended up happening was I got into this mode because the other thing was Bridget Everett. And if people have watched the show, somebody somewhere, you know, this, this show is set in Manhattan, Kansas. And the characters in the show, they all, they often go to this one place called the Chef for brunch, for breakfast. And that's like, it's a very iconic part of the show. And that's where we were going to be interviewing Bridget Everett and her brothers. Now Bridget Everett, who is much more famous than I and much busier than I am, had already flown from New York to get there to be interviewed by me and her brothers. Had also some of them live in the town, but one of them lives in California. The whole Everett family had converged in Manhattan, Kansas to sit in this diner and be interviewed by me at 9am.

[Luke Burbank]

And you think that she. I didn't realize that. I sort of thought you're like, oh, we'll take advantage of this. We'll meet her where she is and have this great backdrop of doing it in Manhattan, Kansas. She's basically making this trip for CBS for you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Absolutely. Oh, I did not realize that aspect 100%. Yeah. Has changed her schedule to fly to her hometown in Manhattan to talk to us in various places that are kind of significant for her life and for the show. So a lot of people, not to mention our producer, not to mention our camera guy, like a lot of people have really changed the whole scope of their week to be in this one place. And now am I going to be the person who somehow can't make it? I'm kind of freaking out because here's what I start to realize as I'm talking to you and John in that conference call. I'm also getting these text messages from the travel guy at cbs. And because the plan was going to be I'm going to fly to Kansas City, I'm going to rent a car and I'm going to drive from Kansas City to Manhattan, Kansas, two hour drive. The travel guy is going, I've never seen this before. I cannot, I'm unable to rent a car one way from Kansas City to Manhattan, Kansas. Something I'VE never heard of. I have. He tried Hertz, he tried Enterprise. My beloved Avis. They don't even have an Avis in the city of Manhattan, Kansas. Like, that's the thing again, I just assume if you've got two stoplights, you probably have an Avis. Or if you have an airport, if you have a regional airport, you probably have an Avis there. They didn't have that. They did. Nobody would allow me to rent a car and leave Kansas City, Missouri, bound for Manhattan, Kansas. Because the problem was I was flying out of Manhattan, Kansas. To be more specific, this is a one way rental.

[Luke Burbank]

We ran into that before with TBTL stuff. Right. Was it the version of it?

[Andrew Walsh]

I think that was, I think it was maybe even more. The RV was a big problem. The one way RV rental, remember that was a whole issue.

[Luke Burbank]

I do remember that. And I do. I thought there was another car situation because I, because, because I remember sort of learning that with you, that that's a possibility. That like, oh, yeah, sometimes you can't rent a car one way. But anyway, go ahead.

[Andrew Walsh]

I just, I, again, I just figured in this day and age, in this economy, I just couldn't, I couldn't understand. I was a problem. But so then my thought was, so my first thought was when the guy says, like, no one will rent us a car one way, I was like, well, I'm just going to rent one from Avis. I'm going to tell them I'm bringing it back and then I'm not going to bring it back. I'm just going to take it to the Avis in Manhattan, Kansas and then drop it off there. And then they'll charge me some fee and I'll charge CBS and it'll be fine. And then I'm on these maps and there's like, like, no, there's no Avis in the city of Manhattan, Kansas. So it's one thing to take a car and not be truthful with the airport and then return it to another location of that company.

[Luke Burbank]

Because what do you think? Not take the car? You're like, well, here I am, I'm not taking the car back. Here's your car. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

They usually charge you a fee.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. You can't leave it along the side of the road or behind a dumpster.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, that's a whole even, even for me. Even for a sketch ball like me, that would be like a bridge too far. So I'm like, like, what am I gonna do? So here was what ended up happening. I end up, oh, and there's a God bless. There's this, a producer at CBS named Eliza who's, who's helps me with a lot of different things, research and such. And she's been deployed to try to find me a car service. So our producer Aria has now reached out to Eliza to see if she can find me a car service from Kansas City to Manhattan, Kansas. This is all unfolding now. At this point, it's like, like almost. I don't. Eight o' clock at night, east coast. And Eliza is like Penny from Inspector Gadget. He's got the headset on, he's typing away, he's like trying to find, you know, cross reference these things. Turns out it's going to be prohibitively expensive to car service me from, from Kansas City to the, to the, to Manhattan. So I come up with what I think is a sort of a decent plan, which is I schedule, I schedule an Uber from the Kansas City airport to Topeka, Kansas, which is about 55 minutes away. Because I realized that Topeka, Kansas is about 55 minutes from Manhattan. And what I realized is it's a big ask to ask an Uber or Lyft driver or a cab driver to drive you two hours somewhere.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Because you can't get a fare back.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's like Seattle to Portland practically or something. That's an epic journey. I mean, I'll say this. The. The what should be theoretically built into the fair is it covers the ride back. But even so, like, I would, I would not just casually ask a ride share or cab driver to take me two hours away. That's a big thing. I mean, I would ask, but I would also understand if they said no.

[Luke Burbank]

And also, I mean, the, the companies, whether it's Lyft or Uber, might have some policies around that too, right? Like, yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

Although I hear a lot of stories from Lyft and Uber drivers about. They've all got a story of that one time they drove someone six hours.

[Luke Burbank]

So they can kind of like into it or something.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes. But in this case I thought, oh, I think I've cracked the code here. Which is a 50 minute ride is, it's not short, but it's not like unhinged. Right. Like, people sometimes live 50 miles from the airport and then they would call up one of these rideshare servers and they would get a ride to their home that's 50 miles from the airport. You know, that'd be like going from SeaTac to Lynwood or something. Like, people that live in Lynwood deserve if they need to to use rideshare services. So I, I broke it up. I got an Uber from the airport to Topeka, Kansas, where I stayed in Topeka, Kansas that night for all of five hours of sleep. And then I got up and then I called a different Uber, and that guy took me from Topeka, Kansas to Manhattan, Kansas, and dropped me off right in front of the restaurant.

[Luke Burbank]

So these are two. About two 50 mile rides.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did I get two 50 mile rides? I think they probably ran 100 bucks each, huh?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. And 100 bucks each. Geez Louise, that is. That's a pretty good fare.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe more. I should, I should actually, I don't know. It wasn't like $500, I can tell you that.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I also know that those types of services are more expensive in Seattle because of, you know, like, worker protection laws and stuff. And they, they, they charge more because the, the workers get paid more here. But I know that, like, if I'm taking a car from my house to the airport, I think it's close to $80 now. And what. How far away from the airport am I? 10 miles at most.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, here's. I was a hundred. My ride from Topeka, Kansas, pre tip. I'm actually tipping right now because I reopened the app. The ride from Topeka, Kansas to Manhattan, Kansas was $112.98. And so. And I can go back and actually check what the other one was before that. I think if I go into my ride history. But here was the thing that made me feel less bad. I scheduled both of these rides.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah, okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I'm imagining you can do it on Lyft too. I haven't done it on Lyft before. This was just an Uber thing because there are places where there's just more Ubers and Lyfts. But anyway, I thought that scheduling the ride kind of helped me feel less bad about it, because my assumption is if you scheduled. Because I had to put in the destination, I had to put in my pickup, the destination, and when I wanted to be picked up, and in both cases, immediately somebody picked up the fare. So I was still in. I think I was still in maybe in New York about to take off. And I got on Uber and I scheduled this ride for when my plane was going to land. And then you put in your flight number. And listen, Uber has a. There's a lot of complications around Uber, around the corporate culture, around, you know, the gig economy. I'm not trying to, like, this is not an Uber ad in this moment, per se, but it Was pretty damn convenient because I put in my flight number and it just. When I, it said, okay, when you land, we'll know that you landed. And when you have your luggage, just hit go. And then we'll send the person over your way. So somebody had already. But I could see the name of the driver right away. Like somebody had. Had basically agreed to do this gig.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. And the scheduling really assures you that you're not holding them over a barrel. This is somebody that say, oh, I can plan my day tomorrow. I can wake up. My first fare will be this 50 minute ride and then I can make it back. And, you know, they can really plan around that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Like, I feel like if you just flag someone down, if it were taxi cab or if you just, I don't know, order. I guess if you order a Lyft or an Uber, they can generally see the destination. But there's just something about giving them as much heads up as possible and just kind of being like, if you want to do this, great. If you don't, I totally understand. It made me feel like I was being less, you know, I was putting them out less or something.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Was kind of my. Was kind of my, my theory of the case. But anyway, all that is to say, I managed to get to Manhattan, Kansas and had an absolutely lovely day there. It was very fun walking around that town with Bridget ever, because she is an extremely, like, Midwestern, kind of humble, low key person. And I kept asking her, like, aren't you like, you're from this place? You set a whole HBO TV show here. You must just be like the mayor of this place. And she's like, I don't know. There's so many people that don't know who I am here. It was like, now it's the afternoon on a Thursday, it's dead in Manhattan, Kansas. She must have been stopped 30 times.

[Luke Burbank]

I was gonna ask. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And by people who had come to Manhattan, Kansas, because they loved the show. More than one person said. I was, I'm from, like, this couple came, they were from North Carolina. So we're standing in front of this theater that's kind of like the centerpiece of the downtown main street in Manhattan, Kansas. Bridget Everett and I are talking. We have a little film crew. And I can see this couple, this kind of older married couple that have been walking down the sidewalk and then they've kind of stopped and they're kind of looking at us and I think for a minute, oh, maybe they're worried about walking in front of our Cameras. And then I realized, oh, no, this is what they're doing. They're trying to process the reality that the star of their favorite TV show, who put this small town on their map, is standing on the street in this small town when they randomly pulled up on their road trip. And it was so adorable. This woman was losing her mind. I mean, can you imagine, like, you're visiting Barone, New Jersey, Bayonne, New Jersey, or somewhere in the Sopranos, and you go up to James Gandolfini just standing there?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, these days, I'd be. Be doubly shocked.

[Andrew Walsh]

I guess it would be. It would definitely be something to tell the papers about.

[Luke Burbank]

Certainly.

[Andrew Walsh]

He's with Jimmy Hoffa and my therapist, probably, but yes. And your. And your sponsor.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, my sponsor and my. My spiritual leader.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, bad example. But. But. But I just. It was kind of fun. And. And so the woman said, we're from North Carolina. We love, love, love the show. We were on a road trip. We were, like, near Kansas, and I said to my husband, if we're near Kansas, we have to go to Manhattan, Kansas.

[Luke Burbank]

This is. By the way, are you rolling on all of this? Cbs?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's a whole other. Yes, yes, we are. But it was like, I don't want to. I don't need to get into this. But it was like. Let me put it. How do I put it? The responsibilities for me as the host of just kind of, like, seeing something and thinking we should be filming that, that is so different than the responsibilities of, like, a camera person who has, like, this heavy piece of equipment that has all these specifications that involve focus and light and what lens they're using, and da, da, da, da, da. So I'm always like, can we. Can we get this? Can we get this? And they're always, like, trying to get it, but, like, there's. There's a lot more to it than I realize, I think. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

But we ended up getting really good stuff. But let's just say for the first, like, five or six people, because I knew that I thought it would be an interesting plot point in the story to talk about what the reaction is to this woman, Bridget Everett, being in this small town of Manhattan, Kansas, that she's kind of made sort of famous to a certain group of fans and the first five or six people that approached her on the street randomly, and they were just doing, like, the perfect right out of central casting, like, hey, I love the show. Or. Or even, like, hey, I used to do your mom's hair or whatever, you know, and they were all happening. And somehow our camera guy, I was always missing. It was always, like, off, like, adjusting something, or I was like. It was like it was killing me. And so I kind of said something later. Like, I was like. I tried to say it nicely, but I said something to the effect of, like, I think the only way. Because also our producer, we were really short staff. We didn't have a sound person, so our camera guy had to be sound and camera. I've never had that happen before. And then our producer, Aria, was kind of second camera. She was holding this little camera. It's called an osmo. They're really cool. We got to get an OSMO for tbt.

[Luke Burbank]

See how the thon goes.

[Andrew Walsh]

They're remarkably affordable, but they're on a little gimbal and they just shoot, like, incredibly cool stuff. All that is to say, I kind of had a little team meeting and I said, I think what we're going to really have to try to do is really kind of have our head on a swivel about if someone is approaching her, and we need to just, like, really, like, when in doubt, just start filming. And so then I started just kind of being the spotter. I could see people coming, like, those people that came from North Carolina. I like, locked eyes with our camera person and with Aria. And I was like, those people. We need to be filming those people right now. You know, I tried to do it in a way that I wasn't, like, panicking or making it, you know, uncomfortable for everyone. But eventually we got to the point where we.

[Luke Burbank]

We got.

[Andrew Walsh]

We got a ton of good stuff. We got a ton of people, like, losing their minds, so it ended up being fine. But I will tell you, the first three or four people where there was a actual, like. Like unscripted interaction and we weren't getting it.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, it was like.

[Andrew Walsh]

It was tough on me. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I mean, it does. I mean, it's. It's because I very much sympathize with the person who's trying to deal with the equipment. And also that, like, you really don't understand what is involved here.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Aperture. Other things.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know, that's the thing.

[Luke Burbank]

Look at me. But. No, but I totally understand that. But also, we live in a day and age where there are devices that are way more flexible and mobile. And maybe, like, CBS needs to, like. And it sounds like maybe with this device you're talking about, they are. They need to look at other ways of being like, okay, well, if we're doing a story like this Then we also need somebody with this. Some sort of a souped up. I almost said ipod. They should really have me on staff. Some sort of a souped up iPhone or something. You know what I mean? Because the technology in our pockets is incredible. I get a little bit irritated when it's just kind of like, well, you can do. You know, like, you can just say, oh, we'll just do it on your ipod. Like, that's not the realities of the situation. I'm not trying to be flip about it, but you can maybe say, but maybe we should, like, have one person or a producer just always has this more flexible technology to grab it. And then, you know, and then if it sort of changes the tenor or the voice of those types of stories, that's not necessarily a bad thing, you know?

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I agree. And we are moving towards that. You know, when we were filming at the world's largest truck stop, because we were in all these tight spaces, like, I was getting a chiropractic adjustment. I was talking to a dentist. We were in this chapel.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, it was a truck stop, Luke. We've all been to truck stops.

[Andrew Walsh]

I was having an omakase sushi meal. A $500 omakase sushi meal. I'm trying to think of other things unlikely at a truck stop. And it was such tight space and the turnaround was so quick on a lot of it that they just used the OSMO the whole time. And I was watching some of the footage later. It looked so good. It looked so cool. Now, only you might possibly care about this. But you know what the bigger issue in all this is, Andrew, because we didn't have a sound person, was audio.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, audio will be useful because we.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did not mic these people. Normally. If our sound guy, he would have a boom, so he'd be booming it. So he would just be holding a microphone over people who are doing things so we can get what they're saying. I may have to cleverly write around the fact that we don't have good audio. We have Bridget Everett, Mike, but we don't have the people that she was talking to, Mike, because we didn't have a sound person.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is what I would say to the Paramount and my soon to be corporate overlords, the Skydance company. Don't skimp on the sound people, because that's why we may not have sound from a couple from North Carolina that was very excited to meet Bridget Everett, because we couldn't send a sound person because we couldn't find anyone to do the sound.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. So.

[Andrew Walsh]

But I mean, they're all taking the early buyout so that we can merge with Sky Dance more seamlessly.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, maybe Trump will get you an osmo.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Or a sound person or whatever we need.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah, no, definitely the big beautiful Osmo.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm very excited about it. Anyway, so I made it back home. That was a really fun. It was a kind of a crazy week of getting there and stuff, but it ended up being totally worth it. Bridget Everett. Absolute, just wonderful person and very talented and very funny. I'm excited to, to get this on television. But Andrew, in all of our, in all of my gallivanting and all of our running over on time, we did not talk about this Little Red Hen story. Let's. Let's clear the, let's clear the decks on this. Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Yep.

[Andrew Walsh]

The Little Red Hen, which I didn't know until you sent me this story, is, I believe, 92 years old.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, it was something. I don't have it in front of me now, but I was shocked to see that as well. I knew it's like a long standing bar, like one of the oldest bars in Seattle. I did not know that we're talking. I, I would have guessed, like what's old in Seattle is like 45 or 50 years, you know?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. So like, I let's, you know, I would have started going there 25 years ago, let's say. And so that would have meant it was already in its, you know, seven. Whatever, like 60th year. Late 60th year of existence. But it sounds like there is an issue there with the, the company that owns the building. And honestly, it's a. Kind of. Seems like a minor miracle that building's even still there. Right. Considering the kind of the local real estate situation. Yeah. But like the owner, the, the folks that own the building have had a falling out with the guy who currently owns the bar also, by the way, the guy who currently owns the bar bought it fairly recently. Did you notice that? Like I want to say 2011 or something not that long ago?

[Luke Burbank]

I, I did notice that and it's interesting because I'm only now remembering that the first time I went to the Little Red Hen was with you and your crew. I think like the mummy was there and maybe it was kind of like we had not closed down another bar, but I feel like we went in there kind of late and I do now remember being like, oh, yeah, like, okay, it was a country bar. I think there was country music going on. But then, now, but then the experience I think of with that bar was more like around, I think, right before pre pandemic, when Veeves and I lived sort of like in the Roosevelt neighborhood. We would walk over there quite a bit, and I sort of had a feeling that there was the owner behind the bar for a while. And I didn't know. Know if it had been in the family for a long time, but I guess. What a stupid story for me to go on. My point is, I'm not shocked to hear that the ownership changed somewhat recently, like in the past 10 or 20 years. That doesn't.

[Andrew Walsh]

I thought that bar was owned by the skeleton of a pirate that was still wearing his outfit, sitting next to a treasure chest and covered in cobwebs. I assumed that was the owner of that place, like, somehow that place, because it's so. And I. I also, by the way, I don't think I've probably been there in 15 years. Whenever. The last time I was there with you was probably the last time I was there.

[Luke Burbank]

Ye. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's been so, so long. But in my mind, it just seemed like this could not be owned by anybody under the age of 100.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Based on the vibe, the energy. And I know that's not how things work, but that was in my mind how I thought about it. Like, the idea that it changed ownership in 2011 or something or whatever the exact date is fairly recently was kind of shocking to me. But it sounds like the issue, and this is, Andrew, where I think it. You know, the intersection of stiff drink and garbage anxiety, really, where you live.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, absolutely.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is that there had been some. There had been some sort of an agreement between the Little Red Hen and the. Another bar next door, which, by the way, the Wood. What's it called? The Wood Mark.

[Luke Burbank]

I hadn't even heard of it.

[Andrew Walsh]

I never even. How did this other Green Lake bar escape my radar?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know. There's a chance that that might be slightly newer than when you were going there. I don't know. I'm just guessing. Guessing, but.

[Andrew Walsh]

So there was some agreement apparently between Little Red Hen and this other bar that the other bar would be allowed to use a Little Red Hen's Dumpster facilities. And then that would be in exchange for. I think they would. They would help offset the price or something. There was some kind of an agreement there.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Basically, the neighbor. The neighbor was like, you can use our dumpster, essentially. Right. Like that was.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, so the Hen was using the neighborhood.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, no, no, no. Vice versa. Vice versa. But Basically, it was a neighborly, like, kind of arrangement. Arrangement, basically, yes. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

And apparently that neighbor has now gotten their own dumpster, which means they're not. Which means the Little Red Hen is somehow now more exclusively responsible for its own waste management fees. And I was shocked by this number. The owner of the hen claims that that's going to cost $40,000 more.

[Luke Burbank]

I was ready to be shocked, but I was so shocked at that number. I was like, I'll bet you this could cost almost $10,000 a year or something. But I do have $40,000 a year for dumpster service. I mean, also.

[Andrew Walsh]

3,000 you could do. Can you live in the dumpster? $3,000 a month for the dumpster being dumped now.

[Luke Burbank]

And that. That's according to the bar owner. So the bar owner wants that number to be as big as possible to make his case, I guess. But yeah, just because. Only because I met. I kind of misinterpreted what's going on here. So just to read directly from it, it says tensions began earlier this year over a matter involving the dumpster. Shim. That's the owner's last name, right? The owner of. Owner of the bar, not the property. So the bar owner said he made a verbal agreement roughly five years ago with an employee. See, this is like one of those things. It's like I both like this, and I feel like this kind of agreement appeals to you. But also, you can see how like the landlord would be. Let's. I got approval.

[Andrew Walsh]

Who'd you get it from? Kern, Carl. Carl, Karen. Karen, Kurt. Just keep saying names until there's somebody who actually works there who could have given approval.

[Luke Burbank]

So according to the Times, Shim made a verbal agreement roughly five years ago with an employee at the neighboring Wooden City Tavern who agreed to pay the majority of the Little Red Hen's trash collection fees in exchange for the use of the hen's dumpster. Why this was a good deal for the neighboring bar. I don't know. Like, let us use your dumpster and we'll pay like a big tens of thousands of dollars. Like, why not get your own? I don't know.

[Andrew Walsh]

By the way, I think this Wooden City Tavern. Wooden City Tavern, it was. Well, first of all, Andrew.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

What it used to be was a Baskin and Robbins where my sister Liz.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, really? Who is.

[Andrew Walsh]

Today is her birthday. My sister Liz used to work at a Baskin Robbins that then was demolished. And then this place that was put up, I think it might have been called Shelter or something. And I think that They've now been. I think they've now been. The name has been changed to Wooden City Tavern at Green Lake. But this is, this is this very new kind of very modern, beautiful. It's actually a very beautiful building. I really like it. But I think it was called Shelter when they opened it. Now it's called Wooden City Tavern. And again, it will forever in my heart beat the Baskin Robbins where my sister works.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, I'm looking at it now. Yeah, I see it's kind of around the, the corner. But they kind of would share.

[Andrew Walsh]

They share an alley.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. According to the maps, it looks like they share an alley. And that's exactly how those kind of partnerships would work. Right. Like, well, we'll use your dumpster in the back. It's already there. We'll pay for a bunch of it. A handshake.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe it was that Wooden City would have to get their own new dumpster, which would be a hassle. So they were basically like, we'll cover the cost and we'll use it as long as we can just use it. And then they were like, actually, we're going to get our own dumpster. And now there's problems.

[Luke Burbank]

But didn't the, the property owner here, they rad. They can't. They swooped in and salted this agreement. Right. It says in the spring. Let's see. The owner of the property terminated the unofficial dumpster agreement, and in an email, the property owner informed the bar owner that the Wooden City Tavern was in the process of signing contracts with Waste Management to get their own. It sounds like the property owner heard about this agreement and said, I don't like this agreement. This isn't not on my property or whatever, went in and salted the game and said, we're. And then, and then. So now the Wooden City Tavern's like, okay, whatever. We'll just get our own, I guess. And, and then suddenly the little red hen again. According to him, he's gonna have to pay an extra 40 grand like that. That bar is not operating in those kind of margins.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, not since I stopped going there, no.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, no, that would have been a. Maybe you should go spend a Friday there. Get him back in the black.

[Andrew Walsh]

That was their pandemic.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, listen, it sounds like I, I, I could be wrong, but it's, I think if I recall this article from the Times, it's mostly from the perspective of the bar owner. I don't know if there's many comments. Property owner.

[Andrew Walsh]

So the property management group, slash ownership group, is particularly interested Interested in litigating this in the Seattle Times.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, exactly. But it does sound like. So basically, though, they.

[Andrew Walsh]

They've.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know if there's an update on the story because it is now June 11th. This story broke on Monday, I think, think. And they. The property owner said, you have until the end of this month. Like, the end of this month. And it's just sort of. It's really shocking to. I mean, it could just be a game of chicken, but it might not be.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, it could be a game of hen.

[Luke Burbank]

It could be. Thank you. I apologize. But, like, you know, not to broaden this out too much, but. And I don't know what the details are with these things. I'm trying. I think there was a time where I used to, like, rail about how Seattle was changing and it was probably somewhat uneducated in a certain way and just old man crankiness. But, like, there are so many examples of beloved institutions, you know, and. And I say an institution. This is a dive bar, you know, but either way, it is there. I'm telling you, there is community there. When I did go there in, like, it would be more like a late afternoon drink or something with vives. And it's like, so clear, like, everybody knows each other there. They have their own stools. It is a community. Whether whether or not it's you, your kind of community, or you're a part of it or not. It's like, I do think that stuff is important. And then you have the property values around here skyrocketing. So then there's so many classic businesses that are being evicted because the landlords can make more money. My Zenith supply that sold candles and essence oils and stuff that I can't get anywhere else except for online now went away. There's all kinds of places that are being affected by this, including, and this is my point, Jensen's Meats, which was such a cool butcher shop up here in North.

[Andrew Walsh]

Jensen Smoked Meats.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. It was up here in north Seattle long before I knew that I would be living up here. It was because I remember I punch it into the map and I'd go up there and buy my land jaegers for our road trips. I remember, like, Jensen's got evicted, like, or, you know, their lease was terminated or whatever. Years and years and years ago. Now I'm gonna say at least five years ago. And because the landlords were like, okay, we can do something else with this. It has just been shuttered and covered in graffiti and it is just a trash building now. That is empty and vacant and probably just not. Probably not the safest thing to have right there in the main stretch of. Or kind of a main stretch there of Greenwood. And it's kind of like. It's one thing to say, okay, we can do something with this space, but too, who then just evict these old businesses, these old great Seattle businesses and then just do nothing with it? Because you're just like, well, we can. I don't know. Again, I'm spiraling. But it also sort of seems tied into the people who are buying up all the drugstores, totally gutting them and then selling them off as parking lots because they can't maintain them or the joann fabrics or whatever. It's just. It's really a bummer.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's what I'm thinking about with the hen because. Because unless the owners of the building are on a long term project to try to get everyone else out of the building, so then they can just sell it and have some kind of gigantic mixed use condominium with an orange theory on the bottom floor put in, Maybe that's a long term goal. It seems like if the short term goal is to actually just have functioning, profitable businesses in there, you're not going to do better than the hen in that space. You're not going to put a different bar in that's going to be thriving. Probably that's going to. You know what I mean? You're not going to probably have some restaurant that becomes the hit restaurant of Seattle. You're probably not going to. I mean, what are the other things that could go in there? Like used computer repair? Like, it's not a super desirable building other than being a dive bar. It's highly desirable for being a dive bar. But imagine you were going there to like get some other thing done. You'd be like, it's kind of dark in here. It kind of of smells that smells like Olympia beer. Like it's. I don't think if the, if the owners of the building want to continue receiving rent payments in a timely fashion, they better get this figured out with the hen because I can't imagine. I mean, the Jensen's meat thing is a perfect example. Like, I think that a lot of these landowners think that they will get somebody else in there to pay more money and that if they don't, then they'll just flip the property and develop it. And then what happens is nobody's gonna come in and pay more money for rent. And it turns out that the flipping of the process is Actually pretty involved from like a permitting standpoint, from a bunch of different environmental impact, et cetera. And then you just end up with something that used to be cool and fun that is now just completely and totally. Like you said, just sort of a sad post apocalyptic like you know that Jensen's meet. If I remember right, they used to have. I don't know if they had this when you were going there. And I could be confusing them with a different place on Greenwood that was similar to this. I think they had a big salmon and its jaw would go up and down. Oh, that was like the. It was back in the era when you had like your elephant car washes and there was. I felt like they were. They, you know, businesses were doing more clever stuff with like their signs and things to get people in. There was some kind of a place on Aurora or. Sorry on Greenwood that was a meat place that had like a big old salmon or a big old sockeye or something. And I. My memory of as a kid is that its jaw could go up and down out.

[Luke Burbank]

I am looking to see if I just didn't. It seems like something I'd remember because now keep in mind AC like almost directly across the street from the old Jensen is where that puppet Piper Creek is. Yeah. And that does have.

[Andrew Walsh]

You should be called Bix.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh really?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

[Luke Burbank]

One thing about the puppet Piper Creek is they have a. It's funny that I. I wonder how long it's been the puppet Piper Creek because I would have guessed that you wouldn't have known a bar there before that because it has such an old, old neon sign with like a. One of those neon signs that sort of has the fake animation and it looks like somebody's throw like fly fishing. A fly. Is it fly fishing or just casting a regular fishing pole.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, maybe that.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I think you're right. But anyway, either one of those. I'm not sure. But that's kind of like that dynamic sign as well. But I don't remember Jensen's having a movable sign when I went there. But maybe I was just.

[Andrew Walsh]

You know who I used to go to Bix with. You know who's a huge Bix fan?

[Luke Burbank]

No, I can't even picture Bix.

[Andrew Walsh]

Ross Reynolds.

[Luke Burbank]

Really?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I used to go to Bix with Ross Reynolds.

[Luke Burbank]

So.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wow.

[Luke Burbank]

The poppet Piper Creek is that new of a bar that they already have. But they bought this. I mean a neon sign is so expensive. Especially a moving neon sign. But like I'm Just surprised that that bar is new enough to have a neon sign that is already sort of like. Like only half working. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. I wonder. I'm also wondering. Yeah, I don't think Bix had that. I don't think that they had that sign. But all that is to say, I guess, Andrew, you have no choice. It's a Friday. I don't know what your. Your big weekend plans are, but, like, I think you have to beeline it probably for the hen today.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, that's interesting. Well, I got some dogs to pet in the neighborhood. I actually have to go pick up Genevieve at the airport. And I just want to clarify something I said before. I was estimating that the airport's 10 miles from me. It's more like 20 miles from me. Whoa. Yeah. Are you surprised to hear that that's a 20 mile drive down the 5 from where I live?

[Andrew Walsh]

I kind of am a little bit.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I was thinking like 10 miles. I think I said before 10 miles tops. That was. That's an invitation to myself.

[Andrew Walsh]

But you are so. So you're driving. You're gonna go get her as opposed to hopping on the light rail together or whatever?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I mean, if she. If she were taking the light rail, she could just do that herself. I would have.

[Andrew Walsh]

Herself.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I wouldn't go down. That's a. That's a really long. Because you have to take a bus to the train to the. But no, I figure if I have the car, I should just. I should just go down there and pick her up.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's very nice of you. I'm glad to hear that. In the relationship, you still. You guys are still picking each other up at the airport and dropping each other off. I have. Because of the amount of travel that I do. I have so long since stopped ever even like asking or. I would never ask anyone to get me from the airport. I would never ask anyone to drive me to the airport. I would. It's like. But it's like something inside of me has died because when I come out. So Portland has. They've redone PDX or they're in the process of redoing it. It's actually. It looks really cool. What's annoying is they keep shutting off large sections of the airport to remodel it, which means you then have to walk this, like, crazy, weird, nonsensical route to get around where they're fixing things. But something that they have done that I think is so genius, and I think every airport should do this. When you so let's say you land on your flight and you're walking and you're on your way now to get out of the, like, security area. You go through that exit thing where they're like, you know, you cannot go.

[Luke Burbank]

Back once for some reason.

[Andrew Walsh]

It feels intense. It feels like the human version of walking across one of those do not back up major tire damage situations. It's like, okay, I better be really, really sure. This is what I'm supposed to be doing. But you, you, as you come through that, like, exit, there are on both sides these amazing. I don't want to say bleachers. They're more beautiful than that. There's these big wood benches that go all the way up, so where people can just sit and wait for their loved ones to get off the plane. And it's a gathering space.

[Luke Burbank]

That's interesting.

[Andrew Walsh]

Isn't that a good idea? And it's always got people in it. There's always people. So instead of it just being like everybody's got to stand around, you know, and kind of nervously wait for the person or whatever, it's like there's. It's a whole. And it's almost like. I don't want to say performative, but it's like there are these two sets of bleachers that are going up on either side. And as you emerge through, like, if you had loved ones there, it'd just be such a cool thing. I think it was a very, really interesting idea of, like, sort of human scale design maybe, you know, or designing things for the way that people actually exist in space in that environment, in that scenario.

[Luke Burbank]

And almost your return to waiting for people at the gate, you still can't do that after 9 11. But it's a way of, like, people, like, can greet you in a more formalized way at the airport, and you.

[Andrew Walsh]

Make it comfortable for them, and you make it. You know, it's almost like you feel like you're. It feels like when I. Again, no one's cheering for me, but it feels like when we used to come out of the locker room in a basketball game and you're running out and people are all seated and they're clapping or whatever. It has a little bit of a feeling of that.

[Luke Burbank]

But when I come through tissue paper, like, every plane that I bring my own, you just stretch it across the.

[Andrew Walsh]

Tunnel through a thing, a big thing of paper. But. But then also what I think when I. When I walk through there is. Because there's always people waiting for folks, and people are excited and they're hugging. I just think, like, like, man burbs, you have really, really moved into a different category of life. SL travel. You have moved into hardcore Road Warrior. Avis Wizard. Put your head down. George Clooney up in the air, like, status. Like, there's no. There's. There's no. There's no joy. There's no adventure. There's. I. I was thinking about this the other day because, I mean, I saw some. Some like teenagers that were all part of, like a school band and they were boarding the plane. I think we were in Dallas or something. And I thought, like, these kids are so flipping excited right now going somewhere they have not been before. And they. And how excited I would have been at that age if I was ever able to do something like that, which actually wasn't. But, like, all the. The joy of travel that some people feel, that you certainly feel, I think when you're younger, the excitement of. It's like, that has been so wrung out of me at this point. And like, I think there's something very sweet about picking somebody up at the airport. Like, it's a. It's an act of love, you know, and. And I've lost that. I mean, I would pick. I picked back up at the airport. I will pick people up at the airport. That's the thing. I'm a true hero, Andrew, is what I'm really trying to tell you, obviously. But I would never. To me, asking someone to pick me up from the airport or drive me to the airport would be like asking someone to wipe my ass after I go to the bathroom. It's like, no, no, no. I got this. I got this. I do this all the time.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

I have a system.

[Luke Burbank]

And you have usually a company paying for the travel to 100 and the CBS also pay somebody to wipe your ass. Or is that. Is that negotiate.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe you not the Skydance merger.

[Luke Burbank]

Ah, yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

That was one of the first things they took away.

[Luke Burbank]

Wow. That.

[Andrew Walsh]

That is why you heard a certain bitterness in my voice earlier.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Hey.

[Andrew Walsh]

First they came for the ass wipers and I said nothing.

[Luke Burbank]

Then they came for the Osmos. I. Is that what it's called? The Osmosis? Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Osmo.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Osmo. I was going to say we should do blurses here and get out of here, but I did want to mention while we're just on airport talk, we didn't talk this week about the new. Because it didn't affect you. It doesn't affect you because you do so much travel as you're describing and you're obviously TSA PreCheck. You haven't had to take your shoes off in an airport for a long time. But I still do. And they just rolled that policy back. I'm sure you saw this, right, Luke? This seemed like I didn't actually. Oh, really? I'm kind of surprised. I feel like big airport news would be up. Up your alley, but. Yeah, no, like the federal government. And again, like, I always question anything this federal government does, you know, but. But they have rolled back the requirements of taking off your shoes. And I think. I don't know if that applies to all.

[Andrew Walsh]

What does that mean, rolled back? In other words, they're not making you take your shoes off.

[Luke Burbank]

They've canceled it or they've gotten rid of that. Now, I don't know if that applies to all airports. It might still be a regional decision. But I do know at SeaTac they are no longer making you do that. Like a boom, like a switch. It just. You don't have to take your shoes off at the airport anymore. They say, you know, we have other, you know, all the scanning technology and everything. We do. You don't. We just don't need it anymore. Also, I think that you probably were dubious about that to begin with.

[Andrew Walsh]

I sure was.

[Luke Burbank]

The thing that. Other than that I'm going to, you know, I. I look forward to not having to take my shoes off at the airport. But aside from that obvious fact, the thing that struck me in reading these stories and sort of reminiscing about the kind of the post 911 world that we lived in, which is like such a bubble of a memory for me now, if that makes sense. I get like the. The feel of that time. It seems so distant now in such a distinct era. But remember the shoe bomber? What was it? A flight from Paris? Richard? Yeah. I can't adhere to the States. He tried to set off a shoe bomb. Didn't. But that's what basically kind of started this policy. That attempted shoe bombing happened almost immediately after 9 11. I think it was like October or November of 2001. The shoe policy didn't go into effect until 2006, according to all the footage or all the news. I've been reading about this lately and I keep on like, trying to double check that. I can't believe it took five years for like, how. I don't know, was 2006 also when they. I feel like it was immediate that airports clamped down and all this shit after 9 11. I just can't believe we had 5 years after 911 where we were still wearing our shoes and then they started making us take them off.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that's like, I mean, not to get on this hobby horse, but that's where this kind of stuff always struck me as so sort of pointless. It's like, so there was a five year window where if you were still trying to blow a plane up with your shoe, you were fine. You could still do it, get away with it. How does it take five years to codify that policy?

[Luke Burbank]

That's why I feel like I must be getting something wrong. But I swear I read that in two different sources because I was dubious of it. But they said they're rolling back the 2006 law and it was, you know, kind of provoked by the 2001 attempted shoe bombing. So I don't know, unless I was reading some bad information, I just can't get my head around that.

[Andrew Walsh]

But so to get back to what you were saying is it means that going forward, permanent, like, well, as far as we know now, permanently, you do not have to take your shoes off anymore when you're going through security in US Airports. That's the new.

[Luke Burbank]

Or, or at least at Sea Tac and other airports that I guess choose that. Again, I just want to emphasize, I don't know if this is being universally enacted in every single airport. I got the impression that Sea Tac is one of the airports taking this up.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, well, that's the other thing too that makes it challenging is that every airport has a different set of rules and policies. And what's. I've talked about this before, but like, what I wish they did on day one of like TSA training was said to the folks at the tsa, we know that you work here and we know that you are very familiar with the specific policies of this airport that you work at. But guess what? Every airport does it. By the way, the reason for that is totally mystifying to me. It's a federal, I believe a federal program. Right. You could have the rules and the rules could be the rules and they could apply everywhere. They somehow do not apply the same everywhere. There's. Every place has got a slightly different thing. Sometimes if you hand them id, sometimes you only need the boarding pass. Sometimes they take a picture of your eyeballs. Now, sometimes it's. Sometimes it's shoes off, hair up, sometimes it's glasses on, shoes down. It's so all over the map. And of course, because I do travel a lot and I probably have too much of my self esteem, which is what a sad place to have it tied up. Too much of my self esteem tied up. And like I know how to do this. It's like me ordering it in Tai fung when I get up to the, the thing and then the person is brusque with me because I'm doing it wrong. I always want to say, I promise you this is not due to lack, this is not due to lack of experience on my part.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is not due to me not doing this enough. This is honestly destroyed important parts of my life to be traveling as much as I do. So this is because you have a weird system here in, you know, MHK Manhattan. By the way. That was the other thing. And you'll see the hey Dummies video if you get the newsletter this week where I recorded live from the airport in Manhattan, Kansas, which was a shocker because my flight took off at I want to say like 6pm they didn't unlock the gates until about 5:20. It was, I kept like, I was like, I'm not a nervous case about this but like you guys know we have a flight at, you know, coming.

[Luke Burbank]

Up and you're also at the very, you're at the very end of a very, very long travel week and you're. Yeah. And I want, I need to get.

[Andrew Walsh]

To Dallas to get my connector to get home. I'm like, I'm not in my most chill mode, but I'm just like, like I've never gotten to an airport. I got to the airport at like 2:30 or 3 in the afternoon and I was already, I was really early for my flight but I was just going to work from the airport. I thought, oh, I'll go sit in a restaurant and I'll have you know, some soup and I'll work on my CBS stories and my travel reports and whatever. And I get there and it's like the whole airport is abandoned and the, there's a giant gate blocking like a pull down gate blocking your access to where you'd go through security. I was like, how can this be how this works?

[Luke Burbank]

And I saw the footage. It's not like there was, it was just, it was like you walked into a, a bank that was closed or had just closed recently or something. You know what I mean? Like there is no, there wasn't like a Wendy's or anything. There was no ghost town.

[Andrew Walsh]

They literally have a sized office. They have a sign that I noticed later that was like hungry and then it was an arrow and it said vending machine machines. I was like, oh wow, you went all out for us. You got us vending machines. Thank you. Like, yeah, there was literally no food service in the airport. And again, it's a. The building itself is pretty nice and new and maybe because of watching somebody somewhere or because I know that Tyler Lockett, what did go to K State and played in Manhattan. Maybe. Maybe I've had a certain, like a. I've misunderstood the scope of Manhattan, Kansas, but I was. Was truly shocked by how limited the resources were at the airport there. I thought it was gonna be a normal airport and I could go sit in a Wendy's and type up my story or something. It was like Hungry Arrow vending machines.

[Luke Burbank]

Fun. Here's some fun. Here's a half a bag of Funyuns.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

Is that why they call Manhattan, Kansas the city that always sleeps?

[Andrew Walsh]

They call it the Little Apple, which I think is kind of clever.

[Luke Burbank]

That is clever.

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, and you'll see that, like, I. I saw this place with little apple dry cleaning and stuff.

[Luke Burbank]

I do think that.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, I will say it is no offense to Manhattan, Kansas, which is such a cute little town. Andrew, you would die. The little downtown area. I mean, it's a absolutely adorable place. But it is kind of confusing because I was flying from Manhattan to Manhattan, and every time I was talking about it and even when I'm writing about it in the script, I feel the need to constantly clarify it's Manhattan, Kansas, not Manhattan, New York. Because also, by the way, Bridget Everett lives in Manhattan, New York.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. And you interviewed her in New York.

[Andrew Walsh]

I interviewed her in Manhattan, New York. Manhattan, Kansas. She lives in one place, she's from the other place. I'm constantly trying to, like, figure out a way. I just am worried that if I say Manhattan without some sort of clarifier in the script, people won't know which Manhattan we're talking about. Unless it's like, so I don't know. Consider a name change is what I'm consider changing it to Brooklyn. There's a right way to rock and wrong way to roll.

[Luke Burbank]

You can't just listen to your song. Just remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but. You got them. We read them. This is from William, who says, Happy birthday to Dr. Rachel, best doctor mother and more. Oh, how do you say the name of this mushroom? Is it Morel? M O. I think that's Morel. Yeah. Yeah. Happy birthday to Dr. Rachel, best doctor mother and Morel Hunter in all of Maine. That's from William.

[Andrew Walsh]

Sometimes they use dogs to look for mushrooms. Actually, really what they use are pigs. Right? Pigs are really good at truffle hunting.

[Luke Burbank]

Maggie says I'm writing to wish myself a happy 57th birthday, which was on Monday. The world is a dumpster fire and it's the actual dumpster that's behind the little red hen that's causing all the issues. The world is a dumpster fire. I'm choosing to concentrate my attention on the things and people I can build up and connect to. Looking forward to a year of sharing meals with friends, doing my best at my job, and getting out in nature whenever I can to go.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nice.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, we can't have maggie going after Dr. Rachel's morels though.

[Andrew Walsh]

Just there's enough morales to go around.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Nancy says Dear Megan, wishing you a very happy birthday and a year full of joy learning Irish and sharing improv stories. Thank you for introducing me to TBTL. Becoming a 10 to hear their hijinks. Oh, interesting. Oh I see. So yeah, Megan introduced Nancy. Nice. Thank you. I love being your mom. I enjoy your teaching me about kindness in life of Nancy.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's sweet.

[Luke Burbank]

Arpels Susan and Ruby say wishing the happiest of blurs to supertend Jesse in Cincinnati. I know Jesse. Jesse will write in from time to time. Jesse is a beacon of light. Kind, caring, compassionate. He's the embodiment of the spirit of TBTL who does all he can to help cure global loneliness. Jesse, I hope your day is nothing but 360 spins and slam dunk pointers. Nikki and Wooster says Happy Birthday to my dear friend and fellow 10 Katelyn in Idaho. I'm sorry that we could get together this year but I hope you have a fun filled birthday. Miss Miss Miss ya. Oh look, I didn't even know. I honestly did not know know this has happened. But it looks like Caitlin in Idaho is pointing that blurs day right back at Nikki. It says please pass along the happiest of blurs days to Nicole in Worcestershire. I mean Worcester, Ohio. Congrats on surviving another blurs. I didn't know what to do there because I know that the joke is that they're both pronounced Worcester. But you guys wouldn't have gotten the joke if I had just said Nicole and Wooster I mean mean Worcester. You know what I mean? So I had to pronounce it. I just don't want people to say it's not pronounced Worcestershire. I I, I I know that that was disconcerting. That was a weird Is that just a Laugh. Or is that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is that. That's Barbaro.

[Luke Burbank]

It is Barbaro. I thought I got Barbara. And finally, Annie in Seattle says, happy birthday to Megan and Edmonds. You always come up with something witty to say here, but I'm at a loss, so I'll leave it at Husky helmet and Red Robin forever. Annie in Seattle. Is that the helmet that gets driven around the. The Husky Games? I love that thing. Yes.

[Andrew Walsh]

I love that thing.

[Luke Burbank]

Always harassing Genevieve. If I'm like, did you get to. Because sometimes Genevieve gets to drive the president around in the golf cart around the campus. And I'm like, well, why don't you use the helmet? When she's like, we can't use the helmet. When I'm like, use the helmet.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, you should be in that helmet.

[Luke Burbank]

I should be in that helmet. I honestly, that would be. What was the little worm that drove the apple car? I wanted to be that.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know that worm's name, but yeah, that's a really childhood memory. That's Richard Scarry.

[Luke Burbank]

Right? Richard Scarry. Right, right, right. Yeah. That's the person. Who is that? The nom de plume?

[Andrew Walsh]

That's the writer of all of those little. Whatever those books were called. You know, you have to say he went pretty far writing children's book for someone whose last name was scary.

[Luke Burbank]

I know. What an interesting. What an interesting name to choose, right? Because I'm guessing that that is not a real name.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I guessing it is. Because why would you be your pen name? I mean, how about Richard Friendly?

[Luke Burbank]

That is a good point. I don't know why I always thought it was. Oh, it's spelled with two R's, huh?

[Andrew Walsh]

Richard Scarry.

[Luke Burbank]

So I guess it's. I mean, it looks like Scarry, but that can't be how you say it, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I always heard it as Richard Scarry growing up. And also it didn't faze me either, because the books are so lovely. But it is. You know, you are starting off at a certain disadvantage with that being your last name as you're about to launch your children's book writing career.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, exactly. Richard Killer Clown has a new series of books for young adults and children. You want to get out of here, or did you not like the Killer Clown being the last joke I liked?

[Andrew Walsh]

You know what?

[Luke Burbank]

I thought.

[Andrew Walsh]

I thought I was playing there. I thought I was. I thought I was playing that. I just hit the wrong one.

[Luke Burbank]

I know. Killer Clown.

[Andrew Walsh]

Listen, Andrew, have a fun Friday.

[Luke Burbank]

Thanks.

[Andrew Walsh]

At the Dog Pet.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah. I'll let you know if I go or not. What do you think it is? 50. 50 chance I go? Yeah. 50. 50.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think you're gonna go.

[Luke Burbank]

I think you.

[Andrew Walsh]

I. I heard an excitement in your voice. I'm gonna be here pounding my pickle and just getting ready for my siblings to show up.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

So I'm sure we'll have a full report on Monday about how all of that went.

[Luke Burbank]

Really earning that explicit label. Good.

[Andrew Walsh]

I. I'm only repeating what you said, my friend. That is going to bring us to the end of our broadcast week. Thank you so much for spending all this time with us here in TBTL land. We really do appreciate it when we get to laugh very heartily and from the heart. I am really grateful that this is my job. So thanks everybody for making that possible. We're going to be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you, so we will see you all then. In the meantime, have a great weekend, take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Luke Burbank]

And good luck to all.

[Andrew Walsh]

I.

[Luke Burbank]

Power out.