#4538 Hot August Days

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL #4538 “Hot August Days”

Date: August 22, 2025
Hosts: Luke Burbank & Andrew Walsh

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Episode Overview

In this sizzling summer Friday episode, Luke and Andrew embrace the impending heat wave in the Pacific Northwest with their signature blend of relatable domestic updates, gentle ribbing, and deep dives into the trivial pursuits that fill their lives. The show sprawls from discussions about Neil Diamond’s “Hot August Nights,” yardwork therapy, and In-N-Out burger mania to CD-collection taxonomy, hot dog toppings, and the personal stakes of Mariners fandom. They also explore why people get so defensive (or grossed out) about running, debate the best use of landscaping fabric, and swipe at the recent rise of cult-like political branding—with plenty of drops and inside jokes woven throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Hot August Days” Heat Wave

• Local Heat Advisory: Luke sets the tone, warning that temperatures may cross 100°F in Southern Washington and explaining his urgent need to spread rocks in the yard before it’s too sweltering ([01:12]).
• Not Hot August Nights: Andrew jokes the classic Neil Diamond album is a misfit; despite hot days, nights will be cool—a “luxury” compared to places like Louisiana or New York ([03:35]-[04:42]).
  • Quote: “We do not have hot August nights... Chill out, my mon.” — Andrew ([04:42])

2. Yardwork, Rock Delivery, and Domestic Bliss

• Rock Obsession: Luke finds “Nirvana” in massive, satisfying river rock projects, endlessly fantasizing and strategizing about landscaping and order ([02:11]-[15:49]).
  • Shares a photo of his current “reverse entropy” project and sends it to Andrew for validation.
  • Quote: “It has, it’s like radically shifted my entire relationship with this home environment... It’s like reverse entropy. I feel like we have order coming from disorder here.” — Luke ([15:24])
• Organizing Under the Deck: Luke’s next plan is to build racks and storage boxes to organize scrap wood under his deck, leading to the ultimate firewood setup come fall ([17:30]-[20:56]).

3. Cooling Off with a Stock Tank & New Projects

• Luke gets a “galvanized stock tank”—an 8-foot-wide, 2-foot-deep livestock trough—to turn into a cool soak pool, leading to elaborate new landscaping dreams (and a burgeoning addiction to pea gravel) ([21:44]-[23:10]).
• They speculate about pool maintenance, water filtration, and potential “jello wresting business” side hustles ([23:19]).

4. Hood to Coast Relay and “The Fuzzy End of the Lollipop”

• Luke details Becca’s epic Hood to Coast relay race adventure (the world’s largest—20,000 runners from Mt. Hood to the Oregon coast) during the dangerous heat wave ([26:03]-[29:27]).
  • Becca’s night run: no working headlamp, “pitch-black darkness” at 4am.
  • Her second leg? The hottest, most dangerous afternoon stretch right through Portland ([28:57]).
  • Quote: “Talk about the fuzzy end of the lollipop... the broiling hot, right through the heart of the asphalt jungle.” — Luke ([29:27])
• They reflect on the “why” of extreme running, the odd negativity runners get, and share organizing-/spreadsheet-making foibles as a comparative safe hobby ([29:36]-[36:28]).

5. Music Collection Taxonomy & Beatles Geekery

• Andrew’s CD Project: He’s charting his collection chronologically in a spreadsheet—debating whether to file by release year or the era of compilation ([31:45]-[38:09]).
  • The nature of reissues and Beatles anthologies sparks a side trip into Beatles’ live/tour history and myth-vs-reality about their performance arc ([39:27]-[44:09]).
  • Quote: “I can't picture like a long-haired John on stage somewhere with the rest of the band singing ‘Here come Old Flat Top.’” — Luke ([43:35])

6. Listener Support and Name Anxiety

• Heartfelt gratitude for donors—Luke confesses to anxiety about getting details right for longtime supporters and new contributors alike ([44:24]-[48:15]).
  • Quote: “The last thing I want to do is thank somebody who’s donating... and then misremember some detail of their life or confuse them with someone else. That feels deeply disrespectful.” — Luke ([47:59])

7. Mariners Fandom: Hope, Ritual, and Despair

• Game Day Rituals: Luke previews his Friday night—veggie dogs, white onions, possibly a potato salad, armchair Mariners agony. The cycle of optimism and dithering over emotional dependency on team outcomes ([50:08]-[54:26]).
  • “Johnny Rock Seed” and “rewinding/upwinding” for the weekend ([50:22]).
  • Deep dive on hot dog topping science—white vs. yellow onions ([54:26]-[57:59]).
• Shared Despair & Community: They discuss the importance of sports podcasts/postgame shows as emotional handrails in times of loss ([63:47]).
  • Quote: “I need them more after a loss than I do after a win.” — Andrew ([63:36])
• Mariners’ fate hinges on the whims of the multiverse—hopes for a turnaround linger even as the week’s closing ([98:19]-[99:29]).

8. In-N-Out Burger: Mania and Morality

• Luke shares live audio from the Ridgefield, WA In-N-Out: an “absolutely popping off” scene—150+ cars, teens swarming, “stadium amount” of people at 11pm ([25:00], [73:21]-[74:37]).
  • Quote: “It’s like a stadium amount of people both between the cars, the people in those vehicles and then the overflow... at 11 o’clock at night.” — Luke ([73:21])
• Listener Anya’s email reveals “secret menu” hacks for vegetarians—including the grilled cheese with all the trimmings ([77:25]-[78:55]).
• Discussion of company politics, mask-mandate issues, and class envy of fast-food heiresses ([79:17]-[79:51]).

9. Quick Trip Gas Station Confusion

• Correction: there are two similarly-named but very different chains in the Midwest—“Kwik Trip” (K) and “QuikTrip” (QT). The much-hyped “QT” is not even in Wisconsin, explaining the dull experience the TBTL crew had ([92:09]-[96:45]).

10. Listener Emails, Corrections, and Deep Cuts

• Multiple lighthearted corrections:
  • Olin Kreutz actually broke two teammates’ jaws—once at UW (Luke’s acquaintance Suki Wigs!) and once as a Chicago Bear ([81:01]-[83:58]).
  • The “universe as calendar year” analogy was not Brian Greene but British physicist Brian Cox ([86:00]-[88:49]).
• Catch-up on past trips, listener questions, and Kansas City Royals fangirling ([96:45]-[98:05]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [04:42] Andrew, on the heat: "Chill out, my mon."
• [15:24] Luke, on landscaping: “Reverse entropy. I feel like we have order coming from disorder here.”
• [29:27] Luke, on Becca's race: “Talk about the fuzzy end of the lollipop... the broiling hot, right through the heart of the asphalt jungle.”
• [43:35] Luke, on Beatles mythology: “I can't picture like a long-haired John on stage somewhere with the rest of the band singing ‘Here come Old Flat Top.’”
• [47:59] Luke, on donor anxiety: “The last thing I want to do is thank somebody who’s donating... and then misremember some detail of their life or confuse them with someone else.”
• [63:36] Andrew: “I need [Mariners podcasts] more after a loss than I do after a win.”
• [73:21] Luke, on In-N-Out at 11pm: “It’s like a stadium amount of people...you physically can't get into the restaurant.”
• [98:19] Luke, on Mariners hope: “There’s a universe in which when you and I rejoin each other on Monday, the Mariners could have swept the A’s... it could happen. Be careful though—it’s spicy!”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Introduction/Heatwave and Yardwork: 00:56–03:31
• Rock delivery/landscaping therapy: 02:11–15:49
• Neil Diamond, Hot August Nights, and weather smalltalk: 03:35–04:42
• Becca’s Hood to Coast race & running “why’s”: 26:03–31:35
• Andrew’s music/CD organizing rabbit hole: 31:45–39:27
• Beatles live/tour history deep dive: 39:27–44:09
• Listener donation thanks & name anxiety: 44:24–48:15
• Mariners game day rituals/toppings debate: 50:08–57:59
• Mariners despair/postgame community: 63:47–64:43
• In-N-Out mania report/vegetarian hacks: 73:21–78:55
• Email bag: corrections and quick trip clarification: 92:09–96:45
• MLB wild card race/Mariners multiverse: 98:19–99:29

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Tone & Flavor

Conversational, meandering, full of charmingly specific personal detail and inside show references; playful self-deprecation; earnest appreciation for the TBTL community; a hint of Pacific Northwest melancholy offset by friendship, hope, and the joy of the trivial.

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Final Note

TBTL #4538 is a classic, cozy summer episode—a blend of heatwave malaise, nerdy enthusiasm for personal projects, relatable life minutiae, and the eternal promise (or heartbreak) of next week’s baseball games.

Transcript

[Unknown Speaker A]

I've got a job in Ripon.

[Andrew]

I said I'll start tomorrow. A job? You do know I mean to involve you in the running of the estate. Oh, don't worry. There are plenty of hours in the day. And of course, I'll have the weekend.

[Luke Burbank]

What is a weekend? Tbtl.

[Andrew]

Tbtl.

[Luke Burbank]

It's Friday. Friday.

[Andrew]

Gotta get down on Friday. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Luke Burbank]

This is a whole new level of guys.

[Andrew]

I could not believe what I was hearing.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, this is on our radio station.

[Andrew]

I couldn't even believe the words that.

[Luke Burbank]

I was listening to. He runs around the house all day, naked, chasing himself, playing tag. Awful. He screams at the cat because she didn't vote.

[Andrew]

Come on. Watch out for that first step. It's a doozy.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

[Andrew]

Be careful, though, it's spicy.

[Luke Burbank]

My name's Luke Burbank. I'm your host. I'm sorry, I'm tan.

[Andrew]

I like to be tan.

[Luke Burbank]

It just feels good. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where I may have to go dunk myself later because it is going to be scorching. It's going to be very hot. It's going to be very uncomfortable for everybody. May get north of 100 degrees here in Southern Washington. And that means they're saying a heat advisory is kicking in at about 11.30am which is as I'm looking at my clock here on this Friday, August 22nd. That's a little under an hour away. Okay, so I'll push that. You know what? I'm willing to record a minimum of one hour of podcasting. Why? Well, because it's my job. But I need to get out into the yard before it becomes dangerously hot for working, because I need to continue my one true joy in life, which I've learned is spreading rocks around unruly parts of my yard.

[Andrew]

It's a waste of time to do that.

[Luke Burbank]

I lie in bed, fantasize about what it's going to look like when I continue spreading rocks around previously untamed sections of the yard here at the Madrona Hill studio. So, anyway, we got to get to that. But not before we bring you episode 4538 in a collector series, Let the fun begin. I was driving back last night from hanging out with some friends down in the Charbonneau district, kind of Wilsonville, Oregon, and went to watch a little concert and have Some dinner. It was a lovely evening. But as I was driving back on i5, I realized, oh, I'm getting close to Ridgefield, Washington, which is of course the location of the new and still one and only In N Out burger in the state of Washington. And I recorded what I saw at 11 o' clock at night as I looked over at the In N Out. And it was. It's pretty nuts. Is it legal to be this insane? Tell you what's going on down there in Ridgefield. Oh, and we're also going to talk to this guy. He's the longest running cobra of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Other things you may or may not know about him. Meet Andrew the reject, the strange one.

[Andrew]

The weird kid who has been waiting all this time to really raise some hell.

[Luke Burbank]

He is so ready to raise some hell. He's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Andrew]

Good morning, Luke. One would be tempted, based on your description of the weather, to turn one's thoughts to the classic live Neil diamond record. Hot August nights during this phase of the summer.

[Luke Burbank]

However, heat for the heat, as they say.

[Andrew]

However, that would be an incorrect thing to do because the nights will not be hot. Did you notice that in the description of the weather over the next couple of days? Incredibly hot days, heat advisory days, but chilly evenings. Did you see that? No.

[Luke Burbank]

My lovemaking.

[Andrew]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Go ahead, explain. Hot days, cold nights.

[Andrew]

Could you explain that somewhere? Explain that.

[Luke Burbank]

I'd love to.

[Andrew]

Okay, go for it.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, well, let me tell you about a gas station called Come and Go.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Did you cut that out of the show yesterday?

[Andrew]

No, I just left it as is. I just left it as is. I mean, the only thing I could have done would have been to beep it or whatever at that point.

[Luke Burbank]

The only thing you could have done would have been resign, which is what.

[Andrew]

I was ready to do in the moment. But anyway. Yeah, so those of you who are like really ready to play Hot August Nights by Neil Diamond, I would say chill out on that because we do not have hot August nights.

[Luke Burbank]

Chill out my mon.

[Andrew]

That's right.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you know how often I now say that in my head? Is that Thomas Lennon?

[Andrew]

So chill. No, you know who it is? It is Chris. It's Chris. Yeah, Luke.

[Luke Burbank]

Christopher Cross, singer of the song Sailing.

[Andrew]

You know, it's our. It's our guy, Chris from the David Letterman show and Get a Life.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, Chris Elliott.

[Andrew]

Chris Elliott, I believe.

[Luke Burbank]

What's he. Is that maybe from freak.

[Andrew]

I want to say.

[Luke Burbank]

I just love him saying my mom, chill out my mon. It's so dumb. But I'll just. I just find myself muttering that to, like, there was these two flies in my house yesterday that I was having. I really want to talk about my big weekend plans with you because they're. They're just that perfect kind of ridiculousness that maybe the listeners find interesting. But yesterday I had these two flies in my house that I was trying to. Get out of my house. Get out of here, you flies. And it was this thing where they just kept smashing into every window. And so I opened these pretty enormous sliding glass doors so they could just fly outside. Now, again, these are big flies. These are flies that, like, when they bash into a window, you're like, ooh, yeah. Are you okay? Like, did you break a shoulder?

[Andrew]

Dude, I know what you're talking about.

[Luke Burbank]

Thick boys, right?

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

And so they just, again, they kept hurtling headlong into the. Into the window. And I thought, let me help you. Let me open in a godlike way, in a true messiah complex. Let me open a huge ass door for y'. All. That would be presumably what you're trying to achieve here by smashing into this window, which is you want to get out of this house right now. And I just, like, opened the sliding glass door, creating a huge, huge, I guess you'd call egress for these flies. And they just kept. And then I, like, they kept buzzing around and crashing into other things. And I just muttered quietly, chill out my mon. That drop is just living in my head this week.

[Andrew]

And the fact, I mean, you already played it, but you already have the perfect drop for flies.

[Luke Burbank]

I want to get out of here. Flies.

[Andrew]

Get out of here. Flies.

[Luke Burbank]

Jack Rebny, customer service. Try to chill out my mom.

[Andrew]

There's something about, like, middle aged white guy Elliot just slipping into patois sort.

[Luke Burbank]

Of for the sake of customer service. Try to chill out my mom.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And you know what? Somebody must have sent this in. Here's why. You know, I'm meticulous with the way I name these things. Yes, but this is well named. It's not quite in my.

[Luke Burbank]

But it's not Andrew Walsh standards, but.

[Andrew]

No, this might be above and beyond Andrew Walsh standards because they went into the metadata, whoever sent this to me. Actually, even so, the file is try to chill out my mon with two A's. And then under artist, when I load it into my playback machine, it says, artist is Roland of Schitt's Creek. Like somebody filled in.

[Luke Burbank]

Now that's how you send us a drop.

[Andrew]

That is how you send us a drop in.

[Luke Burbank]

Indeed. Absolutely. Zero of the drops I've loaded in have that sort of care or attention to detail.

[Andrew]

You actually name them things that are purposely confusing. I believe you name them things.

[Luke Burbank]

So you're like, if it's dirty rock.

[Andrew]

I'm going to say it's from Kimmy Schmidt.

[Luke Burbank]

Proprietary secrets. Nobody can get into my Apple Music and find any of these drops, even me.

[Andrew]

That's right.

[Luke Burbank]

You want to play them so well.

[Andrew]

You want to play Chill Out My mom, but you accidentally play Rod Rogers in the Swinging.

[Luke Burbank]

Yep, I.

[Andrew]

The biggest one I've ever had. Big weekend. You are, as we say on the show, champing at the bit to get out of here and start your weekend.

[Luke Burbank]

I am because. Well, you're right, by the way, about the hot or not so hot August nights. That is something we are very fortunate about in this part of the world. And when I say heat advisory and it's gonna be 101 degrees and stuff, I offer that with the knowledge that 101 degrees here in Southern Washington is not 101 degrees in, let's say, Louisiana, or even the Hudson Valley of New York, where I was recently with our friend, television's Chris Hayes. Like, there are so many places where when the sun goes down, the temperature drops by maybe 5 degrees. And that is a tough lifestyle. That is so different here. In fact, even right now, when I got up this morning and I was walking my house, I was a bit chilly. I was in shorts and a T shirt, but, like, I was still. That's how it is around here. You're right. As soon as the sun disappears, the temperature is no longer oppressively hot, which I really enjoy about this part of the world. But I want to just. I want, I want to acknowledge that, that we, even when things aren't great here, they're. They're pretty tolerable compared to a lot of other places in the country and the world. That is not stopping me, though. Andrew from. Well, two things. Well, three things. Okay, so first thing, Yes, I have found Nirvana. I have. Much like when I was sitting having dinner next to Huey Lewis from Huey Lewis and the News. I have found Mother Love Bone, much like Huey Lewis, when, in fact, our friend DJ Tuna is gonna be stopping by on Saturday. Tomorrow she's making her way from Seattle to Portland and is gonna stop by the old Madrona Hill studio. So that'll be fun. I don't get a ton of visitors out here. Once she and I were sitting in the restaurant at the, at the Hotel that I used to always stay at in Portland. The Driftwood Inn is the name of the. The. The Hotel Deluxe is the Hotel in the Driftwood is the name of the little restaurant and bar we were sitting in. We happen to be sitting next to Huey Lewis of Huey Lewis and the News. And he was on his way to play a zoo tune in Seattle. We overheard his conversation with his dinner mates, and they said, you're going to Seattle tomorrow. And then he just stood up, he just patted himself, and he said, yep, Nirvana.

[Andrew]

And this is probably early 2000s maybe.

[Luke Burbank]

It probably. Well, maybe not quite early, but I can tell you, unfortunately, I don't know if Huey Lewis is really performing anymore, because he has. It's that thing called Meniere's disease, which is an inner ear disorder that makes it really difficult to do a lot of things, I guess, including perform if you're a singer. So, anyway, Nirvana, Andrew. I found Nirvana here. And what it is, is finding parts of my yard where there's like, basically what you might call a garden bed. But I'm not a big, you know, a guy to put down beauty bark in places. But because I don't really tend to do that. There's. And I've been complaining about this all summer. There are so much. There's so many areas in my yard that are just kind of in between. They're not the lawn. They're not wild lands. They're just these little kind of spots where they just always look mangy and kind of overgrown, and they're just kind of impossible to keep tidy. And what I ordered, I don't know how many yards. It might have been like 2 or 3 yards. Now, that doesn't sound like a lot, but it actually really is. I don't know how these yards work. It's not like a football. It's not like. It's not like what we think of in football, you know, three yards. You know, you run a screen pass, you might pick up three yards. Doesn't seem like a large amount of something, but three yards of, like, river rock or whatever, it gets delivered by a huge truck. They unload it onto a tarp, and it's like a giant pile to deal with. So I ordered, like, a little bit too much of this certain kind of rock. Not the pea gravel. That's a whole other story. Pea gravel is over where it's supposed to go. It's in its forever home. But when I got this certain kind of river rock that's sort of decorative, I ended up ordering more of it. Than I needed. In fact, I'm still looking at.

[Andrew]

Some of these are rocks about the size of lemons.

[Luke Burbank]

Small lemons, maybe no smaller than that. In fact, I'm going to send you a picture that I took the other day of a deer in my yard. But what you can catch in the foreground, Andrew, just for your eyes, and I would say only. But you can also make it the show pick. I don't care. Is in the. Let me see.

[Andrew]

I'm emailing this to you because I bought a lot of river rock. Yeah, lemon is too big. You know, the river rock that I have, they're more like the size of mini limes. They're small, but they're substantial and very round. Like, maybe if. If I were to make a. Okay. Symbol, like. Hey, Lou.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew]

You're doing.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Okay.

[Andrew]

Job.

[Luke Burbank]

We're talking now.

[Andrew]

The rock would fit right in between.

[Luke Burbank]

A little bit flat.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Rounded but flat.

[Andrew]

There's a place. There's definitely a place they would lay down as opposed to.

[Luke Burbank]

We're talking about the same thing now.

[Andrew]

Yes, I definitely know what you're talking about.

[Luke Burbank]

So I have a. I. So great. I have a bunch of that. In fact, I had too much of it. And so the area that. The one area is planning on putting it in, I did. And I'm. I sent you a picture of it when I did this, like a month ago.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it looked great.

[Luke Burbank]

I was so psyched about it. Well, there was this other area that has just always bedeviled me, and it happens to be. Andrew, the part of the yard that I'm looking at right now, it's the thing that is sitting outside the studio here, the Madrona Hill studio. It's in the foreground of where I kind of look. And, you know, me and staring. They're just two great tastes that tastes great together when I'm doing the podcast, that is to say broadcasting and staring, my two favorite activities. And so I got a kind of a wild hair the other day, and I thought, you know, what actually I could do with this extra rock is I could get out there. I could nail down some more landscaping fabric. Well, first of all, I can mow everything down and kind of get everything really sort of down to the dirt and nicely sort of taken care of in this, I guess you would call it a planter bed or whatever garden bed thing. But it also has some, like. It has some grasses in it that are sort of like. I don't know what you'd call these kinds of grasses, but they're sort of like almost like they'd be growing in the Southwest or something. That kind of bushy, kind of beachy grass. There's a big rock which is actually quite nice looking, but it's always been surrounded by weeds and stuff. And then another kind of bush of mysterious provenance for me. So I got out there, I put down all this landscaping fabric and then I wheeled down the rocks and I filled the whole thing in and I just, it, it fills me with such profound joy to stare at this thing, Andrew. And I don't know if you've gotten the photo yet, but that I emailed it to you.

[Andrew]

But if you see, you know, you supposedly sent me an email during the, you sent me a photo during the show the other day that you said, oh, it'll come. And it never came in.

[Luke Burbank]

And I'm still, I think our phones are having a hard time talking to each other and I'm going to just text it to you as well.

[Andrew]

But I got the photo you sent me before the show today. Oh, there it is. Okay, now it's just coming in via.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you see the deer?

[Andrew]

Well, it's still resolving. I'm waiting for it. But it did come in. Yeah, there it is. Oh, yeah, yeah. This deer. Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, now look in front of the deer. Do you see like that just gray rock that's surrounding those bushes and stuff?

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Luke Burbank]

It has, it's like radically shifted my entire relationship with this home environment because I used to constantly walk around and see what was there before and feel a mild sense of sadness or like disorder. It's like reverse entropy. I feel like we have order coming from disorder here. And so now all I can think about are other areas of the yard that need this same treatment. And there are a lot of them.

[Andrew]

You're just gonna dump rock all over everything?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, no, first you go in with the ground troops, which is to say the landscaping fabric, I'm calling it that. I don't know if that's the name for talking about the stuff that you kind of like tack down with this special kind of, you know, these like longish looking like staple thingies that are sold for this specific purpose. You nail them into the dirt and you put down this layer of like a plastic or some kind of thick kind of material that is not going to let all the weeds and stuff grow up, grow through it. And you do that. And then. Now here's the thing that I've been learning from some videos. What happens sometimes if you put down that barrier, but then you Put a bunch of mulch on top of it. The mulch becomes a new layer of dirt and then can itself grow new weeds and problems because the mulch has a certain amount of nutrition in it. That's right. Look out Cisco. There's a new gardening sheriff in town.

[Andrew]

Yeah, when I was cleaning up our yard, you know, this earlier this summer, there's this area when we bought the house, it was pretty tidy with these areas that were. Stone was laid down, but they had laid down that weed repellent kind of fabric. That really, really heavy black fabric I believe you're talking about as well. But the problem was that it happened so long ago that that became the fertilizer. Basically. I had to rip it itself kind of dissolved, but really just became like sod. Basically the weeds were using that they were growing up out of that. So I spent the like the spring or beginning of the summer ripping up all that stuff that you're laying down. I pulled ripped it all up because I was basically just ripping up the grass. Basically all the grass was growing on it like a wig.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, what I've, what I have hopefully done with this because I'm not putting down any kind of organic matter on it. It's just rocks. My hope is that it stays, you know, fairly weed free. I guess we will see what happens between now and like next spring or something. But yeah, I've got, still got some of this left and now there. This is, I feel like this is a project Andrew that you would, you would enjoy. It's very unlike me actually. But I think I'm changing as a person. I'm evolving. I'm growing, which is my big plan for most of today is to go crazy organizing all of the scrap wood, et cetera, underneath my deck. So I have this fairly substantial deck that we built on the house. And I have just been throwing all manner of bits of wood. It's in piles, but it's not organized very well. And there's all kinds of like long grass that's growing up around the footings of the deck. So there's like cement squares that are in the ground that's like a footing. Then you have a pressure treated wood post that goes down and attaches to that that's holding up the deck. And there are like 20 of these posts or more. And so around those cement squares there's just like unruly grass that's growing. And then there's just like all kinds of little odds and ends of wood and some old decking and pressure treated wood. And pallets and it's just, it's just a mess down there. And what I really want to do is I'm going to build some racks. I'm going to get the wood up off the ground because that's keeping it wet and kind of rotted. I'm going to build a couple of boxes and put all of the wood scraps into these wood boxes so that when we get into the fall and I can safely burn a lot of this wood without starting a fire. I can do that. And then I'm going to mow it all down. I'm going to clear out all the vegetation and that's when we go back in. Andrew with the, with the, I'll keep calling it landscaping fabric with the whatever it's called. And then I'm going to go in with some rocks and hopefully by the end of the weekend or early next week, depending on how oppressive the heat is, the whole underneath part of my deck, which is the reason I say this is an Andrew thing, is because no one except me will ever see this.

[Andrew]

But it's driving you crazy knowing it's driving me crazy.

[Luke Burbank]

And well, really more what it is is the idea of it being organized and like I can just walk down there and grab a couple pieces of wood and throw them into my solo stove if I'm doing a fire again come this fall when it's safe, when the burn ban is over. Like the idea of that is so like comforting to me that I would do anything, I'll do just about anything this weekend to create the scenario in which I. We talk about these coat hook moments all the time that I can just kind of wander down there and it isn't chaos, it's in fact ordered. Everything's kind of where it's going to go. Because mostly what I want to do is I want to burn through all these like little scraps of wood. They're the perfect size to just throw and for people, in case you're worried, they're not painted, they're not pressure treated wood. It's not stuff that you're not allowed to burn. It's all stuff you can burn. It's like, you know, two by fours and stuff. But I just want to get through all of this like weird scraps of wood that there's no use for. But I kind of feel weird taking them to the dump. I mean I could do that too but also be fun to make a fire with them, you know. So it's like I want to get it organized so that When I walk down there, I have this amazing feeling that I'm currently having looking at these rocks that are in front of me.

[Andrew]

Do you need wood?

[Luke Burbank]

Do you need wood? If so, please stop calling me Larry Wood store. I'm in a Larry Wood store.

[Andrew]

The last couple weeks, I know every time you said wood all I could hear was do you need wood? In the same way you kept on saying chill out my mom.

[Luke Burbank]

So. Okay, that's. Thing number one, Andrew, is that I'm obsessed with spreading rocks around my yard. Thing number two, it's going to be hot today. As we've established and I have, I have ordered from tractor supply company. Yes. I live in a part of the world where there is a tractor supply company very close to me. And I will be honest with you, I do feel hyper masculine when I am dealing with tractor supply company. Even though what I'm buying from them is intended for livestock, it is actually going to be for me.

[Andrew]

That's where you get your tutus.

[Luke Burbank]

That's right. That would be. That'd be great. Just going in there and just asking for the most non tractor supplies. Hey, where are the pride flags?

[Andrew]

We're, we're having a bead bracelet making party. Do you. Yeah. Beads.

[Luke Burbank]

I have ordered a what is called a galvanized stock tank. And this is one of those big round metal tanks. It's 2ft deep and 8ft in diameter. And it's, it's design is for of course, you know, being out on the range and your cows are drinking water from it or whatever. For me it is going to be something that I'm going to fill up with water today if it gets here in time and I'm going to sit in it because it is going to be very hot and it is not, you know, this thing is not going to be like long term if I want to try to use this as a little kind of soaking pool, sort of whatever. I mean, swimming pool would be quite overstating. But if I use it, I am going to have to figure out how to. And there's whole tutorials on the Internet. I am going to have to figure out how to like hook up a little filtration system to it. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Because it's going to. Yeah, it's going to get gre.

[Luke Burbank]

Real greed and real fast. The other thing though is it has a drain on it. Right. So it's like worst case scenario, I fill it up for today and tomorrow and then I just drain it and.

[Andrew]

Then clean it with a.

[Luke Burbank]

And then.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And clean it Like, I'm not planning on letting it get. Letting it get too brackish. I also have chemicals for the hot tub. I could throw in at least a little bit of chlorine maybe. See if that helps.

[Andrew]

But you want some advice when you're filling it with water the first time? I don't know if you have any of those little jello packs around, but I say you turn that into a jello tub.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, for wrestling?

[Andrew]

Well, for wrestling.

[Luke Burbank]

My jello wrestling business.

[Andrew]

Off the ground wrestling and relaxation.

[Luke Burbank]

I would say those, you know, are not mutually exclusives, but. So I'm very excited about this, this thing showing up and about me getting. But the thing is now the area that this tank is going to go, this is. This is leading me into a whole new project. It's in. And I'm sorry, this is so yard slash detail oriented. I mean, in the weeds. Not details, like interesting details. I just mean in the weeds of my life and my yard. But basically, in order for them to flatten out the part of the yard where this deck is now sitting, they like the guy who was doing the kind of terracing, the guy that was driving around like a. What do you call that? Not a backhoe, I guess, kind of a backhoe, but like a small one. I don't know why he did this exactly, but he created almost like a mini little amphitheater. He created this area of my yard that's to the side of my deck that's perfectly flat and then has this roundish hill sloping behind it. That's kind of like a nice little nook. It's like you're sitting down, you're protected from the wind, and it's like a perfect place for me to put this. My thought is I'm gonna like eventually gravel it all out. I'm gonna like put down again the famous landscaping fabric. I'm gonna get pea gravel and make it all nice. And I don't know what to do with the little hillside area. Something with that too, so that it's not just scrubby grass, which is what it is now. But my thought is, what I can do is in the summertime, I can wheel this crazy stock tank out and put it there. And then if it's a real, we get about a week of like insanely hot weather. A summer like where you'd want to be just soaking in a tank of cold water. But then I empty that out, I wheel that out of there. And then for fall through the spring, that's where the solo stove sits. So it's like because you know you're not no need for soaking in the pool in the wintertime, but there it could be fun to sit out there and do a little fire. So I'm going to make a multi purpose area that's going to be seasonal. This is my, this is my plan and this, it is going to by the way, involve about three more yards of pea gravel. So take a note if you're the guys who have been bringing that stuff to me, we got another order coming in quick. Okay. So that's the other thing I'm working on today is just I'm not going to do the whole situation with where the pool is going to go. I'm just going to we if it gets here in time, I'm going to wheel it down there and fill it with water and sit in it and probably listen to the Mariners loose. Now thing number three, big weekend plan. Sending all of my love and light towards my girlfriend Becca and hoping she does not perish today because she is running in this thing called Hood to Coast, which I learned is the largest relay race in the world. 20,000 people doing it. They start.

[Andrew]

She's already so largest by number of people participating.

[Luke Burbank]

I think number of entrants is what I'm guessing. And like last night I'm driving home from this little get together and concert that I went to down in Oregon and I turn on Oregon Public Broadcasting. And this I'm also texting with Becca because she's trying to, she's trying to get to bed because to do this race. I almost said silly race, but it's not silly to her and her friends, they like it. But to do this thing, she had to get up at 2:30 in the morning to meet this van to then be on Mount Hood running down the mountain at 4am so it's a relay race. It was a van with a bunch of people. You have your legs of the race that you do, there's like you might do three. They drop you off, you have to run. Then the van picks you up and somebody else gets out and runs their next section. And you just keep doing this and you go from Mount Hood all the way out to Seaside, Oregon. I don't know how many miles it is. It's a lot of miles. Now she not only got to run in the freaking middle of the night, which sounded kind of brutal and also her headlamp died right away. So she's running down Mount Hood in pitch black darkness at four in the.

[Andrew]

Morning and it is a relay race. Where it's a night. I wouldn't. I would assume that you're running your part solo or there are a couple of.

[Luke Burbank]

You are running it solo, but there are a lot. Well, you are. You are the only person on your team running, but there are lots of people from other teams.

[Andrew]

Oh, okay.

[Luke Burbank]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew]

So it's not like I was not by herself. Yeah, you don't. You're not gonna trip over a. Trip over a route and then be by yourself out there.

[Luke Burbank]

No, but I didn't know that until last night when I, like, I was texting with her and I was like, are there going to be other people? Like, when you're running down this mountain in the dark? And she said, yeah, yeah, there's plenty of other people doing that section of the race with you. They're just not the people from your team. I get in the car, I turn on opb. Well, what I was really trying to catch was Philosophy Talk, the show that questions everything, Andrew, except your intelligence. I love Philosophy Talk so much. From Philosopher's Corner, brought to you on KLAW Radio out of the Bay Area. The reason I love the radio show philosophy talk on OPB is because at 10pm on Thursday nights, it also means I'm done with Livewire. It means I'm driving home from the theater, I don't have a care in the world, and I'm listening to Philosophy Talk. Well, last night I didn't do Livewire, but I just so happened to be in the car at 10. So I turn it on to catch Philosophy Talk. And what I hear is OPB going, tomorrow's Hood to Coast race is going to be possibly the hottest Hood to Coast race in the history of the race. People running in the daytime through the Portland area in particular, are going to be exposed to dangerous amounts of heat. The race organizers have expressed that they are going to have first responders located along the route. And also they're asking runners to be aware of other runners who are showing obvious signs of heat stroke. So I text Becca. I go, so when's your, like, second leg? She goes like, 3pm right through Portland.

[Andrew]

Ooh, yikes.

[Luke Burbank]

She's got talk about the short. Talk about the fuzzy end of the lollipop. She's got to run the middle of the night. Dawn Patrol, Bullshit shift. And then also the broiling hot right through the heart of the asphalt jungle. It is Portland and the Tilikum Crossing and all of the parts I'm listening to Oregon Public Broadcast explain the most dangerous way to be Doing this race. And I'm, I'm. I'm overlaying that with what Becca is telling me, which is, oh, yeah, that's my chef.

[Andrew]

That reminds me of another drop we play on the show a lot that I can't find right now, which is. Well, my only question would be why? Why would anybody want to do that?

[Luke Burbank]

And you know what I would like to say is that like, being anti people exercising is not a personality. Like something that Becca and I talk about a lot.

[Andrew]

I hope I didn't come off that way.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Andrew]

Imagine wanting to do that myself.

[Luke Burbank]

And you're. I'm so with you. And that is not you, Andrew, by.

[Andrew]

The way, I wasn't sure if that came off wrong.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, no, no, it didn't. Because I join you. Here's where I was going with this. I join you in posing the question why it seems like if there was. If there was a year. I said to Becca last night, I called her when I heard this on opb. I said, I know you're supposed to be sleeping. I know you're getting up in four hours, but have you considered not doing this? Have you considered bailing this year? She was like, no, I can't bail because, like, well, a. She doesn't want to. But I'm so with you with the, like, if there was a year where I'd be like, you know, this just doesn't feel safe to me, this would be the year. Now to the, to the non. To the like hating running personality thing, all I would say about that. And you are not doing this, Andrew. But like, one thing I've noticed, it's less for me because I'm not an extreme runner at all. I'm a jogger. I get out there. I do a couple miles here and there. But I know a thing for Becca in her experiences because she is a person who runs a lot and she, you know, gets up pretty early to do it. And she run. Tends to run long distances. And the number one response that she'll get in a work meeting if someone's like, oh, did you do your run today? And she'll go, yeah, she has. There's a person she works with who'll just go, gross.

[Andrew]

Oh, that's rude.

[Luke Burbank]

This is. Right. And that's a kind of a. It's oddly not a really infrequent thing. And I think probably the logic behind it, which I kind of get is, well, if somebody is getting up or the hour of the day is not important. But if somebody's out there and they're running long miles. It means that, like, everything is going so well for them that it's actually. You're punching up when you say gross, you know, because the idea is like, hey, this person, you know, their body is operating functionally for them and they're getting out there and like, they're, they're getting a W. So therefore, like, you wouldn't say gross about a bunch of other things, you know, like, oh, hey, right, you visited my mother, who's ill. Gross.

[Andrew]

Right, exactly. Or I, you know, I watched 17 episodes of Mama's Family in a row while eating potato chips from the bag. Gross.

[Luke Burbank]

It would be totally unacceptable to say gross to that.

[Andrew]

It's. That's like supposed to be a bit of a compliment kind of saying. And so I understand that, which is why I said why. But you know what I did the other night, I decided around 10:30 at night that I wanted to know the chronological. I've always organized my CDs and records and whatever in alphabetical order and then chronological order within the band, if that makes sense. But then.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, so let me, let me understand this. So a band like the B52s.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they're early up in my collection. They're in the bees. They're in the Bs.

[Luke Burbank]

Go from the. When the first B52s album was released that you have.

[Andrew]

Yes, and I've always done that with my cassette tapes. It's a little kid. So if you go to the B's for Beatles, you're going to start with whatever the earliest album is, and then it's going to end with like, you know, the White Album, the Nabi Road, and then whatever those collections that were released after, you know, one. Oh, yeah, that was one. But also they had those, those. What did they call it, that. The three double disc collections that came out in the 90s. The anthology, I think it's. Anyway, all of that is to say I was just. Because I got this new CD player, whatever. So I was listening to some CDs and I was like, you know, what would my collection look like if I organized it not alphabetically at all, but literally just chronologically. Forget, like the band and just start. And I was like, well, I don't want to. I was like, I don't want to rearrange and I don't want to physically rearrange all of my CDs, but I could make a spreadsheet and I could input the name of the album and the name of the artist and Then the name of the year, and then it got complicated. Like, do I count a post Beatles anthology that covers the years between 1958 and 1965? Do I categorize that as an album that came out in 1999, or do I categorize it as an album that came out in the late 1950s? Because what I'm really trying to figure out here is what would my collection look like if I was listening to it in order? What's the earliest? What's the latest, you know what, where are their groupings around certain decades or what have you. And so what I did is I started the spreadsheet so I could organize it by chronology. And so all of that is to say when I say things like, all I can ask is why? I mean, you can. I mean, I say that for techno, about people who are exercising only because I respect that they are doing something with their time that is so much more healthy. And I just kind of can't get into it.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I would say to your organizing project, Gross.

[Andrew]

Yes, I know you got some magnetic poetry I've been saving for when you get over.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm glad you're not doing that with the actual collection, though, because the problem here's what I see as. I mean, it's an interesting question. So I'm glad that you have figured out a way to maybe get the information without reorganizing your whole CD collection. Because what I don't feel like tip. And maybe your brain is different than mine. I don't feel typically like you would be like, you know what? I'm in the mood for some music from 1986.

[Andrew]

Right, right.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, I don't feel like. I feel like you would be like, I'm in the mood for listening to this band. Right.

[Andrew]

And you wouldn't be able to find it if you're you.

[Luke Burbank]

Right, exactly.

[Andrew]

Helpful. Like, there's no point in doing it. I was just kind of curious, like, yeah, what would my collection look like were it to be ordered?

[Luke Burbank]

What have you figured out what the first.

[Andrew]

I mean, I've CD would be? Let's see here. I can tell you. So I just hope I realize this. I really just stole your stories. But let's see here. It looks like the other night I inserted 20. So I started with the beginning of my CD collection. So these are things I started, you know, buying in high school and then probably stopped buying in the early 2000s. Right. I did find a. Devendra. I found some stuff. Luke. That Devendra Barnhart, I think it is, is It. Barnhart, Banhart. I don't know. I gave that.

[Luke Burbank]

Understood.

[Andrew]

It's a way. See, this is my thing. It's kind of like a way for me to re. Familiarize myself. It was a way of saying, like, I can't just be. I am the opposite of jazz. I can't just, like, grab something randomly that I haven't listened to in a while and just, like, roll with that. I'm kind of like. And I honestly, I think about our pal Lynn Pham, and I hope he's not embarrassed for me to drag him into. Into my world. But, like, when I think about Lynn and his stats and scorekeeping for Weight Weight, and then the. The projects around TBTL and Marsupial Gurgle, I can associate with that because he likes these shows and he likes listening to them. But also, there's a. There's a sort of. There's a way of exploring it by ordering it in a certain way. And I feel like that's what I do with my music sometimes. And, like, there's never a time I would have reached for the Devendra Banhart record if. I don't even know if I'm saying his name right. But I.

[Luke Burbank]

You're. You were right the first time. It's Banhart.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it is Devendra or Devandra.

[Luke Burbank]

It's Devendra Vendra Banhart Bandheart.

[Andrew]

And, you know, you remember that name was just like that era of the early 2000s where we're listening to very, like, kind of like, kind of.

[Luke Burbank]

There's a lot of man buns and.

[Andrew]

Yes. And man buns and beards and exploring our more sensitive sides. And so anyway, this was a way for me to say, well, what if I just start going through my collection and in a certain way, bringing order to it, but also re. Exploring it and holding these records for a long time and looking at. Oh, Arcade Fire had this insert of this poster or whatever that I would have literally not seen in 20, 25 years. So, anyway, the earliest I have right now. And again, These are only 29 records starting alphabetically in my collection as I was inputting them. But it looks like the earliest one I have is Louis Armstrong Satchmo at Symphony hall, which. See, and this is where things get complicated, Luke, right out the bat. I put the year on that 1951. Now I have the 1996 reissue of that, but it doesn't seem, for what I'm trying to do, calling that record a 1996 record does not make sense. So that's why I added a Column for year and a column for notes to explain my thinking on these things.

[Luke Burbank]

Because I would say it has to be remastered to a degree that it feels like a new piece of art.

[Andrew]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Or something needs to fund that between when it was released and then the re release. More. More than just it being re released needs to have happened. Either they've added a new track, an unreleased track previously, or they've remastered it in some way or what. Like it needs to be fundamentally a little different than the original. Or I think it needs to be categorized under its original year of release.

[Andrew]

Yeah, well, it gets my thing. This is what really bums me out. And maybe I should have just skipped things like the Beatles anthologies. But you know, the Beatles. And it was. I said 99 before. I guess it was 1995 and 1990, 1996. They released these massive retrospectives of the Beatles. And Again, anthology number one, I think, covers 1958 to 1965. And it was a big thing that it came out in the 90s. But again, calling a Beatles record a 90s record does not fit my needs here. So I slotted that as 1958. So we're going from 1951 Satchmote Symphony hall to then 1958, the earliest Beatles song on this particular collection. Then we just get into Beatlestown. Then it's like 65, 66, 60. These are all Beatles records. So that's all kind of boring there because I'm going alphabetically until you get to 1969. Yellow Submarine is the final Beatles record. Then jumping to 1979 where we have the first B52s record. And then we get into some Bauhaus in the late 70s and whatnot. But it'll be much more interesting once I start filling this out a lot more. That's not true. So it's not going to be any more interesting to you or the listener. So I will never bring this up again. But all my point is, I am not actually making fun of somebody who uses their time more constructively than me.

[Luke Burbank]

I was having a conversation with these guys, Miles and Jason, who have done various projects around here, helped me out. They're construction guys, but they're also musicians and music fans. And they were over here the other day working on some stuff. And we got into this conversation about that. The Get Back documentary.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Luke Burbank]

I had never thought about this until Miles brought it up because he's like a big Beatles fan and he was like that. He was saying that until he watched that, he had sort of forgotten that by the time the Beatles were doing Get Back, they were purely a studio band. And in fact, like, if you think about the Beatles as a live band, like playing together, playing live shows, it's pretty much all just like British Invasion. She loves you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I think 65, they stopped touring, I think. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Is that when they did? So that would have been like that.

[Andrew]

I want to say that. Yeah. But your Hard days night, they're probably touring on. And yeah, that was also a movie, I guess. But yeah, those early. What you see in black and white, they're not touring for things like sergeant Pepper.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. And that had never even occurred to me. I was like, I was trying to picture them playing like as a band, sergeant Pepper live somewhere. And I was like, oh, yeah, they didn't do that. They basically like had this crazy run of success as the sort of mop tops. And then they started, you know, writing this kind of different kind of music. And I'm so far from, you know, so much more about the Beatles than I do Andrew. But I had just never considered the fact that like. Oh yeah, it was so crazy how they, like they came in, they toured like crazy, and then they just wrote a bunch of music that was wildly popular, but they never performed it. They didn't perform a lot of it, like in a live setting as a band on stage. Then they get up on the roof of their building and do, you know, play that little concert. Which is also funny because like so many things that are kind of mythologized, the real thing versus the mythology of it is so like, nobody on the street could even see them. Like, it was very confusing to the people.

[Andrew]

Nobody knew it was happening. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Because you're kind of hearing this noise that you're like, is that if you're hearing maybe the Beatles are up there, but you can't see them because of the way the architecture of the building is. So it's pretty cool if you're on the roof. But it's most of what I know.

[Andrew]

About Human fly here.

[Luke Burbank]

That's what I'm talking about. Most of my knowledge. Most of what I thought my knowledge was of the Beatles playing on that roof famously was taken from the Simpsons episode where the B Sharps sing on top of the Quickie Mart.

[Andrew]

Yep. And that's why I said, I don't know, I thought I had that drop. But there's a joke in that B Sharps episode where they're. The B Sharps are doing the Beatles esque performance on the roof and then there's some be on board and they're taking, taking away the attention from the self proclaimed superhero, the human fly who's trying to get attention climbing up the side of the building. I can't find that tape, by the way. I just want to say 66, not 65. And also that last tour it says was plagued. This is from Wikipedia. The tour was plagued with backlash regarding the controversy of John Lennon's remark about the Beatles being more popular than Jesus, death threats, and the band's own dissatisfaction with the noise levels and their ability to in participate, perform. So that's when they just said, you know what, let's not do this anymore. This isn't where.

[Luke Burbank]

And like that would have been. So 66 is what, what part of their kind of music arc are they at? Like what's, what's out and what is definitely not yet out.

[Andrew]

It looks like Revolver would have been out or maybe they're working on Revolver at the time. Oh, by the way. Oh, there's Pet Sounds is in there in between the Beatles. But yeah, so let's see here. So I'm thinking like Rubber Soul comes out and see 65. So I always consider Rubber. Now we're just geeking out, but I always consider Rubber Soul and ooh, now I'm in my head because I'm thinking about all the huge Beatles fans in the audience who I'm going to be hearing from. But I always think it's like Rubber Soul and Revolver as like the two like transitional albums. From what we think of as those early pretty straightforward pop like kind of teenage songs to being a little bit more introspective.

[Luke Burbank]

I can't picture like a Long haired John on stage somewhere with the rest of the band singing Here come Old Flat Top.

[Andrew]

Right? Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

I can't, I can't imagine that maybe it happened and I just haven't seen the footage, but it just feels like something happened. Well, I mean you just, you just laid out what happened to them, which was they were making music in the studio. It was impossible. They were not enjoying doing live shows because everybody was just freaking the frack out. And then that just changed the whole, I guess the, the kind of band that they were or something. See, that's. See Andrew, you were talking about your organizing project which you didn't think was interesting, but it helped me bring up something that was also not interesting, which was my extremely limited thoughts on the band the Beatles.

[Andrew]

Gross.

[Luke Burbank]

Andrew, you know who is just the furthest possible thing from gross?

[Andrew]

Our donors.

[Luke Burbank]

Our donors. Our wonderful, supportive, incredible mountain Dew loving.

[Andrew]

I know we're just playing commercials for Mountain Dew during the time where we thank the donors for making us.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, during the time when I try to really reemphasize this is commercial free podcast.

[Andrew]

Right? Exactly. I was looking for the Shirelle's thank you baby song, but this was still in my player from a few weeks ago and I said, still think it is the song of the summer. I think it absolutely slaps and it does make me want some Mountain Dew. But I thought we could use this to thank the donors today.

[Luke Burbank]

I would like to point out, though, to the listeners, we are. We are receiving no money or even Free Mountain Dew from the Mountain Dew Company. Which is why we need folks like Stephanie King. Yes. In Kansas City, Mo.

[Andrew]

Go off King. Thank you, Stephanie.

[Luke Burbank]

Go off Stephanie. That's right. Also, Marcus Haynes in Manassas, Virginia.

[Andrew]

Thank you, Marcus.

[Luke Burbank]

My dearest Elizabeth, I hope this morning finds you well. We're in Manassas. I feel like Manassas has got to be. That feels like heavy Ken Burns territory.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I guess so. I was kind of wondering where you were going on that. But the. I guess the version really we all were.

[Luke Burbank]

I just feel like the only, the only reference I have for Manassas, Virginia is that I think it tends to come up in Civil War conversations. I think Baronia Victoria is pretty far away from any historic Civil War battlefields. That's where Linda Doyle is.

[Andrew]

Oh, this is power Out Linda. Nice.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, I know, but has Linda moved? No, I think Baronia. It's always been Baronia Victoria.

[Andrew]

Oh, you know, that is a good point. You haven't heard of Baronia. That doesn't ring a bell from last week's or from last year's. Thank you.

[Luke Burbank]

These people are full of Baronia. That's why I'll use the vulgar.

[Andrew]

Thank you for waiting there. Yes, that was from.

[Luke Burbank]

Sorry, that was really out of the blue. Was that in yesterday's intro package?

[Andrew]

It was.

[Luke Burbank]

It was in one of them.

[Andrew]

So it is a. It's an eastern suburb of Melbourne.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew]

It's.

[Luke Burbank]

It's very possible that Linda has been there the whole time, but it just looks new to my eyes. But that's the beauty part of slowly losing your mind, Andrew. I get to experience a lot of stuff for the first time, even when it's not.

[Andrew]

Well, let me say listen, why not we talk about the fact that so many of these names like Linda, who's been listening forever, and literally when I say that she's the power out woman, she's the voice that you hear at the end of every single episode of TBTL since 2014.

[Luke Burbank]

What an honor, Linda. No wonder you're done eating.

[Andrew]

Yeah, we're honored, honestly. And so we see these names year after year, these friends of ours, the people who we owe so much to. But at the end of the day, it is a really long list, and I am always really impressed with how much you do remember. We can't remember the details of every single person and what literal, you know, what literal township they live in, and I think you do a pretty damn good job with that. Thank you.

[Luke Burbank]

I appreciate you saying that. You know, the thing is, and you'll relate to this, I could probably actually remember a little more, but particularly in the context of thanking people who are donating their money to the show.

[Andrew]

Yes, yes.

[Luke Burbank]

I get so in my head about getting it wrong that it becomes paralyzing in certain circumstances, because the last thing I want to do is thank somebody who's donating to the show and then misremember some detail of their life or confuse them with someone else, because that feels deeply disrespectful.

[Andrew]

Yes, yes.

[Luke Burbank]

And so it's like, even if I'm like, I could have been talking to the person four days ago, but I'm like, if I have the tiniest little shadow of a doubt start to enter in the back of my brain, it just. It fully shuts down the whole system, because I really, really don't want to, like, mess that up.

[Andrew]

Imagine having something like that going on every time you're in a social situation. And that's my life.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, honestly, I'm not joking. Like, no, I don't.

[Andrew]

At a party or something, when somebody's like, hey, you know, and you're like, oh, hey. And like, I. Even though. Even if it shouldn't be a big reach of who they are, like, I just start panicking. I just start panicking so early, and then I have a bunch of awkward encounters.

[Luke Burbank]

I only do it when there's money on the line.

[Andrew]

Yeah, right, of course.

[Luke Burbank]

Like Hank Saunder in North Providence, Rhode Island. Now, that's a name I'd remember. Hank Saunder.

[Andrew]

And you're thinking that Hank is a new donor. Maybe we are going to. You know, we are going to see a lot of new donors this year, I think, and they. They responded to the call for.

[Luke Burbank]

We absolutely appreciate that. Yeah. That's the. What we're really hoping to do with this whole project as well, make it sustainable and get as many people as we can supporting the show. At whatever amount works for them and help take the load off of some people that have been very, very generous over the years. So welcome new donors. And also thank you again, people who've been donating for years, people like Aminah Al saadi in Washington, D.C. now, I don't wanna go out on a limb and say that Aminah is one of my radio heroes, but I will. I'll go right out on that limb today. Explained. Wonderful program.

[Andrew]

Yes. And personal heroes. I miss Amina had and Mariners fan. A big Mariner. I'm going to. I'm not a big Mariners fan, I believe.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, I know. I feel like Amina and I have either texted or on social media interacted. I think Amina and her dad, like, have some kind of Mariners bonding going on.

[Andrew]

I did not remember that.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, well, that'd be one of the things I'm deeply wrong about.

[Andrew]

As Mariners fans, we need each other more than ever right now. Reach out. We're here for you.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't even know. I don't. I'm today's day.

[Andrew]

They're back home. They're playing the A's. No disrespect to the A's.

[Luke Burbank]

That's why, but this is my pro. Can I take you through my process for me? Can I take you and Aminah and Cat getting. Cat is in Eugene, Oregon. Thanks, Cat.

[Andrew]

Thank you.

[Luke Burbank]

Appreciate you. Can I take you just quickly, without us going into a whole Mariner situation? I'll take you through my process, which is I get up today. I know it's going to be a warm summer day. I know that I'm going to be out in the yard trying to spread some rocks like Johnny Rock Seed. I go around the country just spreading people going, why are you throwing those rocks in my yard?

[Andrew]

Turkey is like, Johnny rocking.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm trying something. I'm wearing a pot on my head and I'm spreading rocks. Do you remember Johnny Appleseed? I feel like Johnny Appleseed was a big deal in my childhood.

[Andrew]

Yeah. He was dropping seeds everywhere he went. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Planting apple seeds. And he was wearing a pot on his head. In every picture I ever saw, which.

[Andrew]

Was he wearing a.

[Luke Burbank]

As you think about it, very uncomfortable. Maybe it was just the Johnny Appleseed book I had, but he was. He seemed like he was walking around with, like, a pot, like, with a handle on it, sort of like a Daniel Boone cap. Except it was a pot.

[Andrew]

Yes. A lot of information. Some depictions he's hatless. Some depictions he's got, like, kind of a floppy hat and Other depictions, he is wearing a. Almost. It looks like a. Oh, my gosh. I wonder if this is literally your book. Is it like a copper pot? Did you say that?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Can you?

[Andrew]

Yes. Who was. I think you might have had a book called who Was Johnny Appleseed? And he looks more like. His face is like. He's got a strong jawed face. He looks like a baseball player, only he's got a kind of a copper.

[Luke Burbank]

Pot on his face. I didn't have that book. I think I'd be in a lot more therapy if I did.

[Andrew]

That cover is, like, kind of uncanny. Why is it upsetting me?

[Luke Burbank]

Thankfully, I didn't have that one, but I had a different. Where he's got a pot on his head. Anyway, all that is to say, this is my process of. Of sort of how my mind and my, like, looking forward to think process works. I wake up this morning, I know it's going to be a nice warm summer day. It's a Friday, AKA a fry. Yay. I'm like, you know, looking forward to just like rewinding or unwinding and enjoying my afternoon. And that means looking forward to the Mariner game. Game. And I start to go, they're home. They've just had an absolutely putrid road trip, but they're going to be home. They're playing the A's. They've got the home cooking. They've got the crowd behind them. We've been playing so bad that we. It has to snap back, in the words of Eminem, snap back to reality. Oops, there goes gravity. Does that rhyme? Does he say that?

[Andrew]

I don't know any of his lyrics.

[Luke Burbank]

Spaghetti. Spaghetti.

[Andrew]

I learned that on the show, like three years ago that he says spaghetti. I know nothing about him, but, like.

[Luke Burbank]

And then I start to get worried, Andrew. Then I go, but what if they find a knocking wood here? What if they find a way to continue their losing streak against the lowly A's at home? Because, of course, that's also a possibility. So it's like I start to get excited about what tonight is going to be like. I've got my light life hot dogs, Andrew. Just, just. I've got my lightlife veggie dogs cooling in the. In the meat drawer of my refrigerator. I've got the hot dog buns I bought. I got a white onion that I'm gonna dice up. Up. I've got. I go, white onion on the hot dog. Is that controversial?

[Andrew]

No. I don't know. I always go with yellow onions for almost everything. And I was just in the store. So my, my questioning there was not me questioning you, it was questioning me. I almost always go with yellow onions and always have. I think of them as like sort of cooking down a little bit better and maybe like kind of.

[Luke Burbank]

They probably do, you know, But I.

[Andrew]

But I don't know if that's true or not. I think of red and yellow being a slightly more. Or I'm sorry, I think of red and white being slightly more acidic. But I don't know if I'm right about that. And maybe like if you go to the ballpark, those are probably white onions that are chopped up raw. But I guess I saute mine. Maybe that's the difference.

[Luke Burbank]

That's where I got the idea I think is if you're at the ballpark, my memory of it is it's always white onions that are super duper chopped up. So I just kind of go like that's what you put on a hot dog. I don't know if that's better or worse. I like the crispiness of the crunchiness of them versus sauteing them. For me personally, I also like the fact that nobody's going to try to kiss me for the rest of the night.

[Andrew]

You hate kissing.

[Luke Burbank]

Look out ladies. Or watch out ladies. Luke is putting a lot. You know what it was. And we did a whole. We did an entire radio show about hot dogs. Andrew. At once. And all kinds of toppings and thoughts on it. You know what I realized is that like I don't really. I don't care about sauerkraut or relish on a hot dog nearly as much as I thought I did. The clear winner for me is a giant pile of chopped up white onions. I mean, I do mustard, I do ketchup. I know ketchup is controversial. And then what I really like on there are white onions. I. The other stuff is fine. But sometimes I'll do a thing where I make two hot dogs and I do one with. With like sauerkraut because I do love sauerkraut as a thing. And then I'll do the other one with the white onions. And I always find myself enjoying the white onion.

[Andrew]

One more and you wouldn't put them on together. This is a real.

[Luke Burbank]

Maybe that's what I should try. Sometimes you can get into a situation where there's like kind of almost too much going on, I guess.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Can I be honest with you? I don't usually saute. I don't know why I've been lying to you about hot dogs. For a while now. You know, as I'm thinking about it and I'm talking about sauteing it. It's when I make Genevieve and I like to buy these Italian sausages that are a turkey. Italian sausage because she doesn't eat pork. We've been buying them forever. They're cernios. And I will sometimes grill those up or even maybe saute them up in a, in like the skillet or whatever. It's kind of a go to. We always have some in the freezer sort of. And I always have a yellow onion on the counter. I always have. If there's a yellow onion that's.

[Luke Burbank]

Or tied around your waist, which was.

[Andrew]

The fashion at the time. Yeah. But for real, like, that's one thing. I always make sure that I have a yellow onion and garlic in this one little corner of our, of our counter. Even if there's a one partial onion in the fridge or whatever. I always want to make sure there's a full on. Because you just, just feel like you'd never.

[Luke Burbank]

That's me with white onion.

[Andrew]

See, that's interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

But always got one on standby.

[Andrew]

You know what? I never. And maybe this is a moment that you're inspiring me when I'm making hot dogs, which is usually more of a kind of a last minute thing maybe. And I, I'm, by the way, if I'm not grilling them, I'm probably boiling them, which I don't know if that's controversial. I kind of grew up with my mom just throwing hot dogs.

[Luke Burbank]

I grew up with hot dogs being boiled.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And I, I like them that way. You know, it's not steamed, but it's. It's kind of tastes like it's steamed. All of that is to say I'm not usually messing around with onions on that. I'm putting on like three different sauces maybe depending on how high I am. But it's usually sausage that I'm like sauteing peppers and mushrooms up for. Not, not, not hot dogs at all. But now. And we do keep some of that Bubba's horse, not horseradish sauerkraut in the fridge. I think on your recommendation. That's really good bubbies. But yeah, cutting up a little bit of white onion, that would kind of next level my late night hot dog game a little bit maybe.

[Luke Burbank]

Although here's what I'll say. Becca is a. Is a incredible cook and understands flavors of things. And she almost never uses white onion in anything. Like, she's often. If she's sending Me, I'm always asking her, well, how would you make this? And it's always. If it's got onion in it, it's always got red or yellow onion. So I think you might be right, that generally speaking, probably white onion is like Wonder Bread. It's probably like a little more basic, a little more whatever. It's just what I'm putting on things.

[Andrew]

But I'm guessing or it's because you're not cooking it. I don't think it. You know what I mean? It might just be that, like, hey, can I. Can we just do this? Can we look up when to use white, yellow, or red onions? There's got to be a guide, right?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I'm sure. And you're right. It probably has to do with acidity and how it. How the onions behave when being cooked down and stuff like that.

[Andrew]

We were totally right. It says you were right. No, no, it says, here's the rule of thumb. Use white. This is from the Food Network. Use white onions, raw yellow onions for cooking, and red onions for grilling. So that kind of makes sense.

[Luke Burbank]

We could really use a win here. And we just got one. Back to people that could really use a win. Andrew, My whole journey today has been feeling an excitement about the Mariners and also really just the larger environment in which I'm going to experience it. So the experience is gonna be lightlife dog. Maybe some potato chips. Maybe I have a few more red potatoes. Maybe I'll take another whack at a potato salad. It's warm. Maybe I'm sitting in my cattle trough. The Mariners are playing and they're winning. I'm feeling good. This is what rises up in me. And then I imagine that a whole same scenario, except Eugenio Suarez is striking out with the bases loaded and the Mariners are not winning. And it all crumbles. And then I feel like too much of my emotional well being, or lack thereof, is based on this thing that.

[Andrew]

Is the Mariners getting that taste out of your mouth. I will say that. Remember yesterday I sounded like a psychopath, but I was talking about how I did.

[Luke Burbank]

You gotta be more specific.

[Andrew]

Remember at the beginning of the show, in the middle of the show, in the end of the show, I actually do think it was the end of the show when we got into a little bit of Mariners talk. And this last road trip has been absolutely atrocious.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, Shiseido talk.

[Andrew]

Yes. Hasido talk. And also a little bit of Solano and Garver talk or whatever. And I think I got some things pretty wrong. But all of that is to say I probably listened to because it was a lot of these games were day games to us over here in the west coast, and they came at awkward times. I probably listened to more coverage of the games than the games themselves, at least with the Philly ones. It also just became. You're like, I'm not gonna do this to myself. I just had a really bad feeling about that series anyway. But I've been listening and I gotta though, you know, all of this started, I think, was with us saying, I'm going to reach out if you need a support group for this. But, like, that is what I've been doing. And it's not just like listening to the 7 10, where they do a pretty good job of breaking it down, but also there's a relationship between the Mariners and 710 ESPN. So sometimes it's not quite as frank as maybe some of the podcasts I listen to, where people are, like, really drilling down on the details of the game, but can also be very frank about it and not have to worry about ticking off Mariners management as much. Although Mariners on a know if you know this, the team will come after, like, and say, hey, we're not going to give you Ryan Roland Smith anymore.

[Luke Burbank]

They just searched John Bolton's house.

[Andrew]

What's that? Why John.

[Luke Burbank]

Something that the Trump administration is doing right now.

[Andrew]

Oh, seriously? Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

There's an FBI raid on John Bolton's home for the crime of. I don't know how much his mustache is part of the crime, but I think the larger crime of being critical of Donald Trump.

[Andrew]

Oh, my God. I haven't been following Bolton. I didn't know that. He's an outspoken critic. Bolton used to be the bad guy.

[Luke Burbank]

I know.

[Andrew]

I can't keep up anymore.

[Luke Burbank]

I know.

[Andrew]

Bolton was the bad guy.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, no, no.

[Andrew]

Bolton, he was the guy who was making America seem like a pariah on the inventories.

[Luke Burbank]

No, we were. So, I mean, and he still has, I think, very bad takes, but he's part of a shockingly small group of people who did not just sell out everything they believed in for the cult of Donald Trump. And for that he is now he's having his house raided by the FBI today.

[Andrew]

Can we replace the world that we. The country that we live in right now is beyond shocking. And the thing that is the most shocking to me is that some people don't find it shocking that there are just people who are going about their day just saying, yeah, I vote Republican. It's fine. It's not affecting me. I Just can't. Every day it feels like that feeling when you're swimming in the ocean and you have that quick moment of panic.

[Luke Burbank]

Like if you start to think about.

[Andrew]

How deep it is or if, if.

[Luke Burbank]

There are like what, what animal life is swimming beneath you. That, that moment of being like, I can't touch the bottom and if I stop treading water now, I could just be done.

[Andrew]

Or when you're like kind of, you get a little taste of the undertow and it just, you panic. Anyway, I guess we're talking about baseball. I mean, it's all again, like we.

[Luke Burbank]

Need this outsized importance though, truly. Like, you know, what will happen tonight is like, I'll watch Chris Hayes's show at five o' clock, as I, as I do Tuesday through Friday, pretty much. And I mean what I like about watching his show is the news is often grim, but we're at least getting some context and we're getting his thoughts on it, which helps a lot. This is why. And now we're just going.

[Andrew]

If you don't mind me, just. That reminds me, I never quite finished my, my point of all of that is in the same way that Chris who's. And I know that he listens. I'm not just saying this, but the thing about that show is it is both, I feel like very clear eyed. But Chris has this actually came up in your discussion with him on stage at the Town hall. He is eternally hopeful for this country. He likened it almost to a religious belief he has in the American Project. I think I might be misquoting, but I remember him saying something like that. That his belief in the foundation of America and the future of America remains strong. And because of that, his show, while it's very clear eyed and talks about some. The awful, all of the awful things and more that we are alluding to here. It doesn't feel panicky to me because it seems like maybe at the core that's what I get from the baseball podcast I listen to a little bit. It's like different example, but it's kind of like I am in this case with the baseball thing. I'm listening to these other people who are really angry when I'm really angry and really sad when I'm really sad and just sort of like listening to the post game shows. I need them more after a loss than I do after a win. Win.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. And I'll say that, yeah with Chris's show is he's not somebody who is giving into despair.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, you know, I mean, I think the term he used. Well, I think we all do that occasionally. I think that's also natural. It's just, you know, if you can, like he used the. He. This was a while ago too. But he said, you know, he felt like people were getting up off the mat. And I do, I feel like that's happening in certain ways. I mean, I, I don't want to turn this. The only thing people probably want less from us than a full blown Mariners conversation breaking out as a full blown Gavin Newsom's social media feed conversation. But I must tell you that the artwork of him with hands being laid on him by Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan and Tucker Carlson Hangover Gavin Newsom is one of the funniest put out by the Gavin Newsom account. Just Google Gavin Newsom, Kid Rock, Hulk Hogan. I mean, you know, you, you, you, you're following this, right? A little bit.

[Andrew]

Not, not this particular Hulk. I mean, his, his sprint to what he sees as the reasonable middle has, it has been going on for a while and has heated up. I know in the past week he's got every other headline basically about him clearing out those homeless encampments and all of that stuff. And I'm seeing so much vitriol being thrown at him. But I did not. I'm looking for this Hulk Hogan thing now.

[Luke Burbank]

So what's happened is, well, so Gavin Newsom is putting aside, and I know this is like for, probably for you and for some of our listeners, something that can't be put aside, but putting aside the question of like if, if Gaz. Gavin Newsom is trying to, if he's doing the thing that you don't like, he's not a liberal, but that you don't like Democrats doing, which is trying to go more to the middle as opposed to more towards progressive ideals. He has been now leading this redistricting effort in California to try to make up for, oh yeah, the five districts that, that, that Texas is trying to sort of steal. So what California did is then they, because they're heavily Democrat controlled, they basically said, well, we're going to create five extra Democrat seats here to just cancel out what Texas is doing. And that's of course, this whole debate within the party of like, are you just sinking to their level? And you have like, you know, David Brooks saying, you know, when other people are using napalm, you don't then ask yourself, well, should we use napalm? And what I would say to David Brooks is, well, napalm physically kills people. This is more like in my Mind trying to keep the Republicans from literally stealing the midterm which would I think hasten the end of democracy in this country. That's just my personal opinion, but this is the part that is really lighting up the Internet this week. Andrew is the Gavin Newsom Gavin Newsom's official account. He has clearly turned it over to agree group of relative young people who are unbelievably savvy with the memes are just, I mean you want to talk about online, you want to talk about. And not like this is something that's been pointed out. It's not like they're put. Basically what they decided to do was start writing Gavin Newsom social media account exactly like Donald Trump's, exactly like tone, all caps. And the idea is to point out how unhinged what Donald Trump does is because of course when you see somebody else doing it, you're like what's wrong with this person? And it's. And but they are just absolutely living rent free in the heads of Republicans and Fox News people. And they're just putting it is this absolute fire hose of random ass content that I don't even understand most of it, but it is making Republicans crazy. And one of the things that is so funny to me is this like AI generated art that has. Have you found it yet?

[Andrew]

Well, it's really weird that I'm not seeing more of this, but I finally found it in a Times of India report. Yeah, I was scrolling through his. His way. I was scrolling through his instant. I can't find it. I was, I'm familiar with him and even some of our legislators, some of our lawmakers in Washington. In Washington D.C. from Washington state, like kind of doing that like truth social style Donald Trump all caps posting and stuff like that. But I'm now just seeing this, a small thumbnail ver version of this weird AI image of Hulk Hogan as an angel of course because he's recently passed Kid Rock and who's the other one?

[Luke Burbank]

Tucker Carlson.

[Andrew]

Oh, Tucker. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

And they're praying over Gavin News.

[Andrew]

Oh, that is.

[Luke Burbank]

And it's just like a perfect send up of like, you know, it's a perfect send up of the kind of AI slop and even just human created slop around Donald Trump that's just been going on for years now of like people, you know, insert whoever you have deified and that they're really praying over Donald Trump because they're, you know, God's hand is on him and, and stuff all of this stuff that just like if you apply it to anybody who's not Donald Trump. It becomes so obvious how unhinged it is. Yeah, I saw somebody saying, I might have even repeated this to you on the show or off the air or whatever. But for some reason this kind of stuck with me. Like somebody wrote like, what if Bill Clinton is on the Epstein list? Oh, no, I'll have to take down all of my Bill Clinton flags and statues in my house and pictures and like, oh, wait, nobody has the. That. That's just. That's not how this works for the Democrats, generally speaking. And somebody also did. I'm assuming this was some sort of like a photoshopping, but they just had a truck that was newsomed out in exactly the way a Trump truck would be. And they go, am I doing this right? You can just picture it, right? Imagine everything on like the most trumped out flag bullshit, whatever truck. And imagine you just. It all said Newsom instead of Trump Right.

[Andrew]

State of California flag or something instead of a big Trump flag.

[Luke Burbank]

And just everything that's theirs. Except you're applying it to Gavin Newsom and it's like, of course no one's doing that. There's literally no one, even his most ardent fans. There's nobody who's out there, like pulling a truck that has a giant Gavin Newsom flags. Because again, agree or disagree with the guy. But the way that the Democrat maybe somewhat to his detriment, it's not a cult around one person. Again, unfortunately. Maybe it's not enough of a cult around one person. It's a very disparate group of people that have a hard time agreeing on what they're all about, which is making it hard for us to punch back.

[Andrew]

This is a funny. Is it weird? We usually don't put our show picks as like anything even related to these kinds of conversations, but I sort of want to make this newsome truck the show picked.

[Luke Burbank]

You found it.

[Andrew]

Yeah, on Facebook. On Facebook.

[Luke Burbank]

By the way, can you just. Can we AI slop a picture of Mark Maron and the my favorite murderer people and call her daddy praying over us?

[Andrew]

I'll leave a listener to do that. Who understands.

[Luke Burbank]

Somebody please make the AI slop photo of Andrew and I being prayed over by other luminary podcasters?

[Andrew]

It's only going to cost us one redwood tree to make that. So it's worth it, I think.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely. Anyway, I don't know how to power. Oh, I need to power us out with one quick thing before we get to emails and V mails, because actually there are some things some Some loops we need to close by the end of the week. But this is another loop I need to close. And it's kind of on the subject of, of picnic food, Andrew. We were talking about hot dogs. Dogs. How about hamburgers? How about In N Out burgers? How about last night at 11 o' clock at night as I'm driving home from this concert I was at, driving by this In N Out that was absolutely popping off. All right, it is almost 11pm it's very late for me to be out gallivanting, but I'm driving north on I5 and I am in the area of Ridgefield, Washington which means in about 30 seconds on my left I'm going to be able to see the In N Out burger, the new In N Out, the only one in the state of Washington. And let's see what's doing here at about 11 o' clock at night. You have got to be kidding me. There, there are 150 cars in line. Like it's not even like just a normal line for an In N Out. It's like there's a massive huge parking lot that's adjacent to the In N Out that just has like row after row after row after row after row of cars. And also there's like a bunch of people just standing around outside the restaurant. Like overflow. Like you physically can't get into the restaurant if you're just a person. There's like canopies up. I want to stress this is all happening at 11 o' clock at night. So that was the scene last night at 11. I, I was assuming for some reason that the, the line was going to be like a, the standard line you see at an In N Out, which is a drive through that has a very long line going. This was something altogether different. This was like I said, an adjacent enormous parking lot like that. You'd have it like a station medium and then just like all these cones, but not so much cones, but you know, like the narrow orange pole that has a weighted rubber base to it that you can just set up kind of temporarily something that looked like that, but like, I'm not exaggerating, 30 rows of that that each had 20 cars in it. Like it seemed like a stadium amount of people both between the cars, the people in those vehicles and then the overflow of humans just trying to physically get into the in and out, like through the normal door where there was so many people that you couldn't physically stand inside the restaurant.

[Andrew]

We've talked about this on the show. So Much. I mean, I just cannot associate at all with that mindset. Like, first of all, it's new here, which means it's going to be around for a while. Why wouldn't you just wait until, like, I don't know, 3pm on a Wednesday when there's less of a line? Why? You know, in other words, if it was going out of business, if it was literally leaving town and you wanted your last one, you'd be like, well, this is my last chance. I have to wait in this line. But it just got there. I don't understand. Is it wanting to be part. It can't just be. I'm hungry for a burger and this is the only place to get a burger. And it can't be that these. I know. People love In N Out. And people talk about them like they're like, I remember when I was in la, everybody's like, you haven't had an In N Out burger. I'm like, ah, not yet. Like, I will eventually. Spoiler alert. I didn't. But it was just because, you know, like I said before, the opportunity didn't arise, you know, naturally. But, like, I just. Is it. They want to be a part of a moment? Is the food that good?

[Luke Burbank]

You know what, Let me say this. I was flabbergasted. They had pushed my flabbergast button at how many people were there. But I'll tell you this, the cascade of people kind of coming out of the restaurant, they all look like teenagers.

[Andrew]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And I kind of like feel like, you know, that's some. That's some pretty good clean fun.

[Andrew]

That's true.

[Luke Burbank]

You're 16, it's summertime. You're going to In n Out with your friends. You're gonna see everybody from town. You're gonna wait in a ridiculous line and get a burger and a shake. That seems kind of fun. I think a lot of the people in the car lines, it's probably families, you know, maybe with younger kids.

[Andrew]

Well, that's the part that makes less sense to me. Like, when I was. I was just reminiscing with somebody. I don't think it was you on the show, but just like, all the way. We would just do anything just to get out of the house and hang out. When I was a teenager, like, we would just. Also, we were all smoking cigarettes at the time, so we couldn't hang out at our houses. We were always looking to get out of the house and somewhere. So we're hanging out at, like, the Metro Parks at, you know, various Places where we'd go and just like hang out and we. And also you're just like, you're talking to your friends. You might have crushes. Like, there's a million things when you're a teenager. That makes sense to me. It's just sitting in your car like.

[Luke Burbank]

It'S like, you're not you, are you now hate. I didn't know this about you, that your car is your least favorite place to be in line until yesterday's show.

[Andrew]

Well, that is a thing for me. But also, like, how can you be part of a moment when the moment is you, even if it's you in a car, you know, with your family? Like, I don't know. That doesn't seem like a moment. That still seems like an isolated, frustrating.

[Luke Burbank]

Place to be, I think. I don't think everyone has that same feeling because I've seen a lot of TikTok videos that people have made in the car and I think it's almost like going to a drive in movie, I guess. Hold the movie where it's like, we're gonna get in again. Car culture also not. Probably the very tippy top of your list of can I get the E.

[Andrew]

Line to drive through?

[Luke Burbank]

That would be incredible with the bus.

[Andrew]

The kind that bends in the middle, articulating.

[Luke Burbank]

I love it. You know, I think. I think, you know, for. It's like you got a couple. You got younger kids, you're looking for something to do, you get a paper hat. Like, it's not a line that I want to wait in particularly, but. And also, again, I was shocked at how many people were there, but I guess as I really talk myself through it, I kind of. I sort of. Again, I'm gonna put it under. I'm gonna. Even though the company is politically now a nightmare because the owner seems to be kind of a bad person and the owner's taking a real heel turn. I don't know if you know about that whole thing.

[Andrew]

No, I know nothing about. About this.

[Luke Burbank]

I believe the owner of In N Out inherited it from her father and has been very vocal about moving corporate operations out of the state of California. You know, because of what she sees as. Because, you know, Andrew, she inherited a billion dollar company, so nothing's breaking her way. Heaven forbid that company have to actually, you know, be responsible to operate within the state that it was founded. I mean, can this woman ever catch a break? Anyway, I did get. I know we're going to jump into emails. Actually, you know what? Let me just. Can I just play the email Here.

[Andrew]

I go once with the email every week. I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man, it's not from a female.

[Luke Burbank]

I got an In N Out related email from listener Anya and it was very enlightening and helpful. It said, hey, Luke, I'm a vegetarian who loves In N Out, despite the bad politics of the owners, she says. And I came to it as sort of an adult. So here are my recommendations. You gotta order from the secret menu. I love the grilled cheese. It's everything but the meat from a cheeseburger. You simply order grilled cheese with onions and pickles if you want to add those on and the cashier will know what you want and has the code for it in their machine. Since the lettuce and tomatoes are of great quality for fast food joint and the burger sauce is yummy, it's a pretty decent hot veggie sandwich. As for the fries, those must be eaten immediately to be good. Any time left in the bag and the fries become too soggy and limp. Fries can be revived in an oven or toaster. Oven. Oven on high for a few minutes. In fact, oven recooked. In N Out fries are some of my favorite fries. So this is actually. I didn't know there was a secret menu at In N Out. And I have to say the thing that Anya is describing, which is basically the cheeseburger with everything except hold the meat and make it like a grilled cheese sandwich with a bunch of yummy veggies on it. That sounds really good to me. If in 20 years from now, which is about when the line will die down, I'm driving past that In N Out or I'm going to that Costco and the line is not like totally bananas. I would absolutely order that. That sounds actually very yummy to me for some reason.

[Andrew]

Anya saying, despite the bad politics of the owners. That reminds me, I am now remembering some pandemic bullshit with that company, right? Like they didn't let their employees wear masks or something like that with in and out. Does that ring a bell to you? There was something like that. So it's not just the passing on to the air, I believe also so.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that's my. It's so funny how, like, I can take somebody who's being manifestly bad and then I can somehow make myself a jerk while talking about them. Like, I have such class envy, such a chip on my shoulder about if I perceive that somebody didn't quote, unquote, earn something, you know, Like, I don't know why. To me the fact that this person, I believe, and maybe it's her and her siblings or whatever, like the current owner of the. Of the restaurant chain, again, I don't think is the founder of it. I think that her parents found it it. But I don't know why that's relevant to me. Why I feel like somehow that means that she's not allowed to have an opinion. But it does. That's how I feel.

[Andrew]

You know, all I typed in was In N out pandemic. And it's like In N Out's vaccine battle with California. That was in the Los Angeles Times. This from NBC News. Bans. They ban. And sorry, I have an ad blocker on that is making me turn off. It says In N out burger bars, employees in five states from wearing masks asks like, what shitheels don't wait in this line.

[Luke Burbank]

Also, Andrew, this week I was talking, well, somehow it came up, oh, you know what? We were naming some guys, you were going through some Washington Husky football cards and a player named Dolan Crutz came up and I said, oh, and boy, you know, I am not a person who. I don't ruminate a ton about my mistakes on this show, but, man, did I get so much wrong with those cards. It was. It was like it was the worst because each card, whether it was the Mariner card or the Washington card, mostly the Mariner cards in this case, I'd have one thing right and then like four things wrong. And I don't understand why I can't just leave well enough unknown, well enough alone. Like, you could just say Joel Pinero and I could say pitcher. I don't have to say acquired from the Minnesota Twins even though he started his career with the Mares. Like, every time I did a good, then I did like three bads.

[Andrew]

Well, it makes the show more interesting, I guess.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, it gives people something to email about because when all recruits came up, I think said, yeah, he broke somebody's jaw in college. He punched somebody in the locker room. And then I looked it up and then I saw, oh, he punched somebody in the jaw. Wallace Chicago Bear and. And broke their jaw. So that's. I was. I was wrong. Turns out I was kind of right because he also did it in college. Listener Jared saying, I'd like to clarify that the retraction that Luke made related to an earlier Luke statement was incorrect. Olin Kreutz did break someone's jaw at the U Dub, in addition to breaking a teammate's jaw while playing for the Bears. Also, Justin weighing in on this same thing he said he did shatter a jaw at the U dub also. Now, Andrew, this is the truly kind of kooky part of this and the reason that I really should have remembered the specifics of the UW incident. I'm reading here from what Jared pasted into the email. Kreutz attended the University of Washington, where he played for the football team under Lambright. He was involved in an altercation with defensive tacks tackle Suki Wigs in spring practice, where he punched wigs, leaving wigs with a broken jaw. Andrew, I played football with Suki Wigs. Really one of the few people that I knew. I played a bunch of sports with him by way of the Green Lake Community Center. Really, I. Suki and his cousin, whose name I don't know if it was his real name or just what we called him, was Duty Wigs. Not like, get your mind out of the gutter. I don't think it was like, D u o o D Y. I think it was like, D u D I E. But it was Suki and Duty Wigs. And we played basketball together. We played, I think, like, some. I don't. I think. I don't think it was tackle football. I think we might have played flag football together. Suki was always really tall and skinny. He obviously filled out if he was playing defensive end for the Huskies. And then Duty was, like, shorter, but very, like, muscular. The fact that Olin Kreutz broke the jaw of a guy that I know.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Knew.

[Andrew]

It's funny that you didn't have that.

[Luke Burbank]

It's wild that I hadn't put that together because, you know, growing up in Seattle and playing sports, there was, like, a very, very short list of guys that I knew who kind of found their way on to the Husky football team. And I was always really plugged into what was going on with those guys because I was frankly very impressed by that. You know, most of them would just be like special teams guys or something, and maybe they'd get to play a down or two here or there. Suki was actually got some reps, if I remember right. But. But that's just crazy to me that. That of all the people whose jaw could have been broken by Olin, it was Suki, the guy that I knew well.

[Andrew]

So just to retrace this here for a second to clear anything up. So you had said this guy had broken somebody's jaw in the Huskies locker room, and then you looked it up and it's like, oh, no, that was in his NFL career. He broke somebody's jaw in the locker room. And then listeners wrote in to say both.

[Luke Burbank]

It's both.

[Andrew]

It's both.

[Luke Burbank]

That's exactly what they emailed in to say somebody.

[Andrew]

I don't have the emails in front of me, but somebody did put it in a sort of cheeky way, like, why not two broken jaws?

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, boy, you see, you know, a story about a broken jaw in a locker room altercation and you just assume that's the incident, right? You just don't assume there might have been another incident. One other thing, Andrew, if I can just quickly here, as we are, as you like to say, kind of cleaning some things up from this week. I, I think maybe even on Monday's show, early in the week, I was talking about my flight back from New York to Portland and how I spent a lot of it scrolling TikTok to the point where Becca said to me, not even judgmentally, like out of genuine curiosity, like if you see somebody doing something, you see someone eat like an entire Carvel ice cream cake, you might say, say, is your stomach good at handling that? Like, not even trying to be critical, just trying to understand me. She said, do you get, does your brain get tired of scrolling the TikTok after five hours? And I was like, yes, sometimes when what I'm getting is non nutritional, if it's real crapola, then yes. But as what happened to me on my flight home, on that flight home was I somehow got on sort of of like astronomy talk and like understand the universe talk and a bunch of people much smarter than I am kind of explaining some of these concepts. And one of the things that I mentioned was Brian Greene, the astrophysicist, talking about what I misdescribed as the, the. If you were to take, I said if you were to take our planet, planet Earth, and you were to sort of lay out its entire history as like a 12 month calendar, calendar year. You know, I was trying to describe like when humans showed up. Well, the first thing is I think I said September, which was the wrong month. I meant December. So that was mistake number one. But the larger mistake that I made was he's not talking about planet Earth. He's talking about our universe.

[Andrew]

Human existence in the universe. Yes, in this time.

[Luke Burbank]

So big bang, the very first millisecond of January 1st of this hypothetical year. Year is the big bang. Okay, let me just play Brian Green and this is off of Tik Tok. So this is always dodgy to try to get to work. But let's.

[Unknown Speaker A]

If the entire.

[Luke Burbank]

That actually Worked kind of well. So let me just play this for you. It's a minute long and that way I won't mess any of it.

[Unknown Speaker A]

The entire history of the universe was squished into just one year. When would humans appear? On January 1, the Big Bang happens. Our universe is created. On January 6, the first stars in the universe are born.

[Luke Burbank]

Born.

[Unknown Speaker A]

By March 16th, the first galaxies, including our galaxy, the Milky Way, begin forming. They are still babies at this point. On September 2nd, our solar system, including the Earth, are formed. It looks pretty different back then. Twenty days later, on September 22, simple single celled life forms on Earth. Perhaps for the first time in the universe, something is alive. Life stays as simple single celled creatures until on. On December 5, when the first multicellular organisms form. December 25, the dinosaurs appear. December 30, at 6am the asteroid hits the Earth, killing the dinosaurs. December 31, at 11:48pm 12 minutes before the New year, humans emerge. Everything in modern human history, from agriculture, the pyramids, the Industrial revolution, every war and every human, you know, from your history book books, all of that takes place in just the last 23 seconds of the year.

[Luke Burbank]

If the entire.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's not Brian Green, though. Of course. You said that was Brian Green. That's obviously.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, the video is Brian Green. Right, But I think that they've maybe. I think that's like an A.I. brian Green.

[Unknown Speaker A]

When would humans appear?

[Andrew]

He's a very British Brian Green, the physicist.

[Luke Burbank]

Is this not Brian Green? Am I thinking of a different guy?

[Andrew]

Brian Green is American. Okay, well then I think, I mean, am I thinking of the right guy? Right, that Brian Green, American physicist.

[Luke Burbank]

Who is this British guy that I'm calling Brian Greene?

[Andrew]

This is so funny. We're doing this during a corrections thing. Yeah, no, that's.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that's. I'm glad we're fixing it. I'm glad we're cleaning it up this week. That guy. Okay, you're 100, right? Because of course, Brian Greene has also been famous for. And I, And I'm. I'm aware of Brian Green, the American. The one you're talking about, the real one, which is why I was calling this other guy Brian Green. But who's this other guy guy? What do you put in for that? No wonder when I was talking about this guy's hair, you were like, huh? I was like, you can track his. What era he's. He's being interviewed in based on his hair. Let's see. British physicist. How do you even search for it?

[Andrew]

Tik tok yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah. So now I don't know what we're seeing or hearing anymore because I'm confused about this. But the Brian Green guy, I remembered because again, I just.

[Luke Burbank]

This guy is named Brian Cox.

[Andrew]

C O, X.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, Brian.

[Andrew]

Wait, wait, isn't that also the actors and Brian Cox the guy from Succession, or.

[Luke Burbank]

No, that is also the guy from Succession, although this guy does not look like him. Let's see. Wait, is Brian Cox. I don't know. And you know what? Give me the weekend to sort this out.

[Andrew]

Okay. I do want to. Oh, I am seeing a Brian Cox with some. Yes. Some hair. He's got like almost a mop top.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew]

Oh, I've never seen this guy before. Oh, yeah, you could definitely. His hair must be like the razor tree. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

So that's the guy that I was. But the sad part is I was also aware of the real Brian Greene because of, you know, the time in which he was being interviewed constantly, everywhere. And yet somehow in my mind, I forgot about the fact that he was American, this other guy had the name Brian. And then I just, I just. I just transposed this British Brian right on over the original Brian Greene and was just going about my merry life saying, that's Brian Greene.

[Andrew]

Oh, okay. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, I was. I was. So. I was. But I mean, they're still physicists and I'm sure that they talk about kind of similar things about the universe, but I do think that Brian Greene is the string theory guy.

[Luke Burbank]

He's the string theory guy. That's his specialty.

[Andrew]

Yeah, exactly. All right. But so do you mind, though, if I clean something up related to a conversation? Now, this comes from our Pale Taylor, the unofficial mayor of Kansas City, so far as I can tell, who says there are. Now, this is regarding our. We're going to be like in December and still referring back to our trip home from Friendship, Wisconsin.

[Luke Burbank]

But we'll be in the last 30, last 23 seconds of 2025.

[Andrew]

2025.

[Luke Burbank]

But just ask Brian Greene.

[Andrew]

I almost don't want to set this up. I'm going to kick it to you for a second for setup here because there was some like, there's these little convenient mart gas station places called Quick Trip that you think are somewhat over celebrated in the Midwest because we stopped at one and it was like a really big convenience store. G gas station. But not something that should have a cult following, basically. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

The quick setup on this is. And again, I do not want to throw our wonderful colleague John Skloroff under The bus. But what I'll say is we were driving in Wisconsin and we were all getting a little bit hungry for some lunch. We were trying to think of a quick place to stop that would not take up much time. And again, me being persnickety, I was kind of hoping it wouldn't just be a McDonald's. McDonald's. And so the idea was, well, maybe we'll go to a quick trip. And I remember John saying, yeah, quick trips are like a whole thing here in Wisconsin. People get married there and stuff. And so we pulled off to go to a quick trip and I was a little bit struck by how kind of just like a very typical gas station, you know, little mini grocery store this place was like, it just had had like, you know, some heat lamp food, if that, and then, you know, some potato chips and whatever. And I was just, I remember being in there going like, what are people doing getting married here? This does not seem to have any special anything to it. And so that was, that was my response was like, I don't understand why, how this quick trip thing is such a thing.

[Andrew]

And it's come up a couple of times. And I was, I was unaware of any of the sort of lore around it anyway, so I didn't really, really get involved or care much. But this email that we got, you're.

[Luke Burbank]

Pretty checked out the whole week, if I'm being honest.

[Andrew]

I really was. What did we do there, by the way we met? Harriet Taylor says there are two different gas station change chains with names that are pronounced the same but spelled differently. Quick Trip with a Q, Q U, I K. Trip is awesome. Clean bathrooms, tons of fountain beverage options, including many fresh brewed iced teas and hot and col coffees and kitchens that crank out good food to grab. And food made to order also makes so much. The people who work there are always great. QT pays well, they're super fast at checkout, and each person can check out two people at once. They say, I can get you on the other side. And they always say, see you later when, when you leave. Quick trip spelled with a K, Q U I K Trip is just a gas station. And we, Luke, were in a quick Trip with A K. Well, 2K is really.

[Luke Burbank]

And we went to at least two of those because we went to one obviously when we, when we were first getting into Wisconsin. And then when we went to our billboard, we then went over to another quick trip again, the QT kind, I believe. And that was where we bought ice and stuff. Remember? And remember the lady Yes, I forgot.

[Andrew]

Yeah, well, yeah, she was brushed. She seemed more New England than Midwest to me. Within her dealings with us, she was almost like she was pretty cranky.

[Luke Burbank]

So just help me remember this. So the, the one that we want is the qt. Yeah, keep it on the qt.

[Andrew]

None of them, none of them like the letter C, I'll tell you that much. They've all gotten rid of the word C from Quick. But the, the good one, apparently, the one that has the legacy and the lore is qu I k True.

[Luke Burbank]

And you know what? I'm looking at the qt, the Quick trip, and I'm totally getting this now. Like, they have a robust social media presence where they're doing all kinds of fun, silly stuff they like. Yeah, this is a whole culture. This is a whole world that the qt, the Quick trip just was, Was lacking. I mean, it was fine. It was serviceable. But to that I would say. And again, I don't want to be harsh to John, but it's like Gandalf, you led us astray. We were. I was a little hot. I was but a hobbit being led by you, you know, through Mordor, which is a weird way to describe Wisconsin. I was relying on John to be our Quick Trip Gandalf. And we, we walked right into the. We went into the. The wrong quick trip.

[Andrew]

Twice, in fact. And then this. Oh, so Taylor, huge Royals fan and the person who kind of got me into the Royals this year, the second thing posted on their Instagram page is, is the Pasquatch himself.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, boy. Pasquillent. What's that guy's name?

[Andrew]

No, I'm not saying it right either, actually. I corrected you. Pasquintino. Right. You do say the qu a little bit there. Anyway, here he is. I don't know what he's going to say here, but he's standing in his full Royals uniform talking to the camera in the parking lot of a qt. It was a great way for us to celebrate a good job on the field.

[Luke Burbank]

But I thought, hey, why don't we celebrate the hard, hardworking people of Kwik.

[Andrew]

Trip the same way? I see what he's done. He's got a giant, giant Big Gulp style cup, but it's like bigger than a bucket. It's like the size of like two buckets. And he's going around splashing people at Quick Trip the way they get splashed at the end of a victorious game.

[Luke Burbank]

Great job, Katie.

[Andrew]

He's just soaking the poor employees. Well, Andrew, they're not into it.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm Getting some intel on this whole thing now. Yeah, I'm looking at the quick trip, the qt, the good one.

[Andrew]

This is so good.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm looking at the locations map for the qt, the good one, the one Taylor's talking about. Guess this. Guess one of the states they do not operate in.

[Andrew]

Huh?

[Luke Burbank]

Wisconsin. So in other words, and I said peace and love to our friends in Wisconsin. But it sounds like if you're in Wisconsin and you're going to. To the quick, quick trip, unfortunately, you're going to the slightly less exciting one. They. They're not. And of course that would make sense because it would be so con. As it clearly is right now. It would be so confusing, Ron, if you had two different gas station, whatever food operations that were like totally the same name except for a slight difference. And one of them was like fresh baking they shit. And the other one was just like, here's a cheese, here's a mozzarella, you know, like what do you call the cheese stick, you know, out of our little refrigerator. Because that was the one that we went to.

[Andrew]

Yes. Okay. So I would still check this out. And also. Yeah, yeah, got Vinnie in here. And I'm. I'm a little bit enamored now. Although I will say my relationship with. And let's just assume that Taylor and Kristen and the other Royals fans have checked out by this point because they probably would check out right as I'm talking about Kansas City. Right. That's probably when they would stop listening. But my relationship, I've been rooting for them, you know, secondarily to the Mariners, but it hasn't really been in conflict much all season. I've been listening to a lot of KC games, Royals games, and now they're one of our bigger threats to potential if the Mariners continue their downward slide, which I don't think they're going to do, although I don't want to say that out loud, but they're only Kansas.

[Luke Burbank]

City playing this weekend.

[Andrew]

They are just wrapping up, or they just wrapped up a series against the Rangers. I know. Which they took. But they're on a winning streak. I mean, I think they lost two days ago, but they are winning a lot of games right now and they are only two games behind us to replace us as the, the third wild card team right now. And if they keep winning the way we keep losing and we face them. Taylor was reminding me the other day, I forgot we have a series where, I think in Kansas City where the Mariners and the Royals are going to face off. That could end up having huge implications for the postseason if we don't get our shit together pretty quickly.

[Luke Burbank]

Listen, Andrew, it's Friday. We are going into this weekend, and with. Well, there's multiple possibilities. I don't know if you've heard Brian Greene talk about the Multiverse. It's one of my favorite videos to play on the show.

[Andrew]

I like Brian Cox guy. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. I'm loving it. What if I was trying to play Brian Greene, but I played the wrong Brian Green and it was the wrong Brian Cox? It was just him doing the McDonald's ad. This is how old the universe is.

[Andrew]

By the way. The Royals are going on the road to face the Tigers next three games. But again, I feel a little bit bad rooting against them. I've been rooting for him all year. But then they play the White Sox again, so that's going to be easier.

[Luke Burbank]

Here's what I'm saying, my friend. There is a universe in which when you and I rejoin each other on Monday, we could be. The Mariners could have swept the A's, or at least one tonight, tomorrow and Sunday. Now the Astros are playing the Orioles. The Orioles don't have a super great record, but the Orioles have also bedeviled us.

[Andrew]

Us.

[Luke Burbank]

Maybe it's. I'm telling you, there is a universe in which we are the Mariners. Fortunes have changed dramatically over the weekend. We win three games, the Astros lose three games. We could be in first place on Monday, my friend. It could happen.

[Andrew]

It could happen.

[Luke Burbank]

It could happen to you.

[Andrew]

It could happen to us.

[Luke Burbank]

It could happen to us. It could happen. Be careful, though. It's spicy.

[Andrew]

It's spicy.

[Luke Burbank]

Let's go. Let's go into the weekend with a message of hope. It could happen to us. The Mariners could win three games. First, I have to go burn that baseball that Stu gave me because it has been rough since that. Since that talisman entered my life.

[Andrew]

Why don't you do this, Luke? Do me a favor. I don't think you'll do this, but you have a lot of yard work and stuff. I don't want you to get rid of that ball forever. But I am sort of also. I was going to say, can you bury it somewhere? Bury it like three feet under the ground. Market. Like a. Like it's a bag of money in a Coen Brothers movie. And. And then maybe we can come back to it later. But I do think we need to do something symbolic to that.

[Luke Burbank]

Maybe that's. Maybe that's the hey Dummies video. For next.

[Andrew]

Oh, I like that. You having a little ceremony where you bury Stu's sign ball.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, I'll work on that this afternoon if the heat isn't too oppressive.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

I'll ceremonially bury this horse. Jorge Polanco slash Stubot baseball.

[Andrew]

I'm worried about Becca in this run. So this is tomorrow, so you'll be.

[Luke Burbank]

No, it's today.

[Andrew]

Oh, it's literally today.

[Luke Burbank]

Two and a half hours.

[Andrew]

Oh, so the three. Yeah, so the three o' clock I.

[Luke Burbank]

May be in morning on Monday.

[Andrew]

Oh, don't say that. But yeah, stay, obviously, stay hydrated.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm telling her. It's the dumbest thing. I'm being like, stay hydrated. She's like, yeah, that's the plan. I'm like, okay, well, if it hadn't.

[Andrew]

Occurred to you to stay. That's all you and I have to offer, honestly.

[Luke Burbank]

And that's all there is to offer. Like, hey, tips for beating the heat. I already tried. Don't do it.

[Andrew]

Yeah, you already tried.

[Luke Burbank]

That was my first piece of advice.

[Andrew]

Right, Right.

[Luke Burbank]

All righty. Hey, thanks for listening, everybody. That's going to bring us to the end of our broadcast week. We really do appreciate you all being part of this thing, spending all this time with us. For those of you still listening, we're going to be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio. Who knows what sort of emotional state we'll be in? We'll all find out together. So please do tune in for that. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Take care. Take care of yourselves. Go Mariners. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Andrew]

And good luck to all. I don't want to get into the hot dog versus sausage thing. Well, I might have to. We'll figure it out.

[Luke Burbank]

I might have to.

[Andrew]

You guide me, hot dog story. You guide me.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't try to. I don't try to define where this hot dog the story's going.

[Andrew]

It's in the. You know what? It's in the hands of the hot dog muses now.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, we have our dry intro tape.

[Andrew]

Power out.