
Andrew and Genevieve’s upcoming dog sitting adventure just got a bit more complicated. Genevieve joins the show to explain why and to discuss her burgeoning eBay side-hustle. And Luke checks-in from a hotel room somewhere, naked.
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A
Hey, Andrew, it's Luke.
B
Sorry if it's a little bit loud. I'm at the shuttle bus area of SeaTac Airport waiting for the shuttle bus to take me to the Doubletree Inn across International Boulevard. You know how at the end of Thursday's show, I said, hey, I'm flying to Minnesota, and so that means I'll have stories? I didn't want this many stories because this has turned into one of the worst travel days I can remember in.
A
A very, very long time. And I don't know, maybe when I.
B
Get to the hotel room and strip.
A
Down naked, I'll be able to tell you about it. By the way, there's a reason why I have to strip down naked when.
B
I get to the hotel room.
A
Anyway, I'll send you a message.
B
Can you and Bingo do the show for me?
A
TBTL Guess what day it is. Guess what day it is. It's Friday, Friday.
C
Gonna get down on Friday.
A
Everybody's looking forward to the weekend. Sure, it's done in the name of comedy, but is debasing ourselves really that hilarious?
C
One thing I can promise you is.
B
The the sun will come up tomorrow.
C
And we'll be attacking it with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. I don't know what exactly the attachment is. I think they're cute, but kind of funny looking.
B
Oh, my God, your chlamydia is huge.
A
We're the number one show in hospitals and on sinking riverboat casinos. All right, Bingo, you ready to do this? My boy Bingo Bingo apparently is not interested in co hosting the show with me today, which I find somewhat surprising. He is in here with me, but apparently the cat's got his tongue. I just came up with that. Hello, by the way, and welcome to a very, very special Friday edition of tbtl. This is the show that just might be too beautiful to live.
C
I'm so excited.
A
I'm so scared. My name, of course, is Andrew Walsh, and as you just heard, Luke is out today. But he really did make good on his promise to send us a long voice memo explaining exactly what happened to him last night and why he is not here with us right now and why he's apparently naked. I honestly do not know the answers to any of those questions or scenarios. No joke, he sent me. This all went down late last night. He sent me it, like about a 20 minute voice memo explaining what in the heck happened with his travels yesterday. And I have honestly not previewed it. I've been waiting to preview it with you to listen in with you to find out what's going on, so we'll get to that in just a second. And even though Bingo is apparently abandoning me on this mission, I don't have to do it alone. Luckily, I happen to live with one of the. I would say one of the most celebrated podcasters of the greater Seattle area, but that's actually not the only thing she's known for.
C
Do you have any idea who I am?
B
I'm a verified Yelp complainer.
A
Of course. I'm talking about my partner in life, my partner in podcasting, my partner and everything. Genevieve Haz. How you doing?
C
I'm great. It's good to be here.
A
Thank you for helping bail us out here. I don't know what's going on.
C
I mean, is that a broad statement? Are you talking about specifically for this show?
A
Generally speaking, I'm sundowning, but also, I don't know what's going on with the show today. I honestly don't know what's going on with Luke.
C
I know. I'm so excited for this big reveal because I also have not listened to this tape, so it's gonna be fun for the whole family.
A
I guess so. Except for Luke, it sounds like. I'm guessing.
C
Well, Luke's pain is our gain, as it should be.
A
You know, I. I want to talk to you about some of the projects you've been working on. Also, by the way, blurs days are coming up today as well. We had to skip them yesterday, so we're doing them a little bit late. But Luke isn't here. By the way, how are you at making fart sounds and other sound effects with your mouth? Because Luke will usually. When I'm reading the birthday messages, Luke will usually make sounds using a sound.
C
Machine with a body.
A
Well, he uses a machine, but I don't have a machine to give you. Did you come with a sound machine?
C
No, I did not come with a sound machine. I was told that there would be no sound machine on this exam, so.
A
You'Re gonna want practicing your. Your Foley effects with your. I guess, with your own.
C
I did bring two coconuts.
A
Oh, good. Hopefully somebody sent in a blurs they wish from a. From a galloping horse. Right as we were starting the show, and I was thinking about Bingo, actually. So Bingo the cat is in the room with us here. In fact, he's making it difficult to do the show because he's. He's looking out the window right behind me where the sun is shining. And I usually keep the. The blinds closed behind me, but he's got them partially, I think, you made.
C
The blackout curtains that I made for you.
A
Yes, that's right. And more on. More on your productivity and projects in just a little, little bit.
C
Yeah.
A
These curtains are the bottom rung of what you're able to achieve with a sewing machine.
C
That's right.
A
But because the light is shining in here in this very direct way right now. And the light is also sort of.
C
Changing because he keeps like kicking open the curtains to look out the window.
A
It's like the Ark of the Covenant. It's like that Indiana Jones. It's like shining right on my computer. But it's also reminding me of something I was thinking about before the show, which is just like the amount of cat hair in our house is becoming untenable. And I don't even mean the huge. Like Bingo ended up being a long, long haired cat. We didn't know that when we got him, but we love him. He's also the best cat in the world. No offense to other cats, but he's pretty good. There's a ranking system and he's at the top of it. And so I don't know. The seasons are changing again. I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but we'll just see like these huge, not like accumulations of his hair, but just like big tufts. Huge tufts of hair. Like a tumbleweed. Like he was cleaning himself and then he leaves these parts of himself around that look like baby bingos. Honestly, it's almost sad to throw them away.
C
They are literally, and I am not exaggerating here when I say this, they can be golf ball sized.
A
Yeah. Oh, bigger. I've seen bigger.
C
Really?
A
Yeah.
C
I found a golf ball sized one on the chair today.
A
It's huge. I'll be honest with you. I saw that before. You saw it and I left it there. Wow. I know. I didn't feel like dealing with it.
C
You're lucky I didn't take that attitude to the cat vomit that I found this morning.
A
Oh, yeah. Thanks for cleaning that up. Okay. But here's what I'm getting at for real. Putting aside those big tufts. And I vacuum here a lot, you know, and whatever. I'm also just noticing that, like, it's just little hairs all over the place and they're, you know, I see it so much more when these rays of light are coming in.
C
It's very long, very fine hair and it's just, it's coating.
A
Look at your microphone. I just. I just cleaned your microphone with some tape to get the hair off of it. And it's probably already coated. I pick up my phone to look at my phone, text somebody and I just see all over my sticky, sweaty hands, which. That's on me, not him. I just constantly.
C
Yeah.
A
Have cat hair on me. And it's. And then I'm thinking about the hair in the house and I'm thinking about how you and I have been kind of very slowly talking about the idea of bringing a dog into our life. Possibly. We haven't made any big moves on that, but we're still open to that. And you've been looking at Good Boys online occasionally and, and that might be something that, that we, that we experiment with maybe by fostering or something. And the first step was going to be. And I think I told this story on the show, you came home from the bar one night quite in your cups and I heard you talking. I was here. I was here in my studio playing Minecraft or something. I could hear you talking to the neighbor at like one in the morning over the fence because the wind. I could hear you through the window that's right behind me here. And I couldn't hear what you were talking about. But then you came in and just said, we're dog sitting in October. So our neighbors have this dog, Maggie, whom we love.
C
Yeah.
A
And is, you know, still not a puppy, but has a bit of puppy.
C
Energy, I think is high energy.
A
A high energy dog. I'm like, okay, that'll be a bit of a challenge for us. But we will learn. Yeah, we will. This will be a great, A great experiment. You know, if it doesn't go super.
C
Great and we're like words of Tobias, let the great experiment be.
A
Exactly. Maybe we'll, maybe we'll rethink the whole thing. Or certainly maybe we'll think we definitely need a dog that is maybe a little bit calmer than this. Or maybe we'll love the energy. Maybe we'll match Maggie's energy.
C
But it's like, yeah, it's a defined period in which we get to like, see what our tolerances are, what our preferences are and like, get, get, get a baseline.
A
And then. And I'm going to tell the listeners what happened to me in the grocery store yesterday, which was a very shocking conversation. So you had mentioned to me that you had volunteered our service.
C
But I think it is worth noting that you, as you noted, I was a little bit tired and emotional when I did this, when I made this arrangement. So I got no other information except dog sitting. October, October. I didn't get dates. I didn't get any, like, rules of the road. I didn't get any. Like, I was. It's. It was unclear to me and I think the neighbor. Whether we meant the dog would come live with us for those days, whatever days they might be, or the dog, like, lives at mostly at the dog's house. And I, like, go over there and spend enough time to like, make sure the dog is cared for and properly, like, walked and everything or both or some combination of the two.
A
Again, I wasn't even planning on talking about this, but do you mind if I tell the listeners.
C
Go ahead.
A
Just how drunk you were?
C
Sure.
A
Do you know, I feel like we've.
C
Already sort of like spilled the beans on the. The broad strokes. Oh, yeah, I know what you're gonna tell them. Yeah, you can tell them that. I already. I told this to all of our friends at bingo the other night already. So.
A
Bingo, the game, not the, the the other day. So this conversation you had with a neighbor, the volunteering thing, that probably happened maybe a month ago, maybe three weeks.
C
Which I just want to say I do remember having the conversation. I didn't get any details.
A
And so anyway, that happened a while back, about two or three days ago, maybe four days ago. You said to me, hey, thanks for finally making that appointment with our financial advisor. Our financial advisor, John had been emailing us for months now saying, we got to set up an appointment. We got to set up.
C
We kept saying, like, not, we'll do.
A
It, we'll get into it in the fall or whatever. And then the other you and I think it was morning, and you're just like, hey, thanks for finally making that appointment with John. And I said, I didn't make that appointment with John. You did. You said, no, I didn't. I didn't make any appointments with John. I said, yes, you did. Genevieve, about three weeks ago, you came home stomping drunk. You made, you made a date for us to dog sit the neighbor.
C
First I agreed to dog sit a high energy pit bull.
A
And then you marched into the basement, you sat down across from me, you said, we're dog sitting Maggie in October. And then you went ahead in front of me and booked the appointment with John, our financial advisor, something that you completely have no memory of. Apparently you are very productive while blackout drive.
C
Can I tell you, I am honestly thrilled to learn that this is what happened. I feel like I have achieved severance and that there's like, you know, now there's like, chore Genevieve that will do chores and regular Genevieve doesn't Have to be responsible or like, bored by them.
A
Turns out severance was alcohol this whole time. It was actually. Hey, folks, if you don't like your job, perfect solution. Do it drunk. I gotta admit, there have definitely been times where I have woken up and been like, oh, I cleaned the bathroom last night.
C
Yes.
A
And it's a real. I gotta say, that is always a real happy surprise for Morning Andrew. That's how it happens.
C
It's a happy surprise for Morning Genevieve that the appointment that I've been putting off making is now booked.
A
Yes, exactly. We should get super ripped before the appointment.
C
Yeah, exactly.
A
John. Buy. Sell. Yeah, buy, sell. I don't think you'll appreciate that.
C
Oh, here comes Bingo.
A
He just jumped on my shoulder and scared me. All right, I got to close these, these blinds. But have we talked. I don't know if I've told the listeners about John, who's our financial advisor, as you would want your financial advisor to be. He's a very stand up individual, Right? Very. Seems like very strict.
C
But he's never made an appointment drunk in his life.
A
Exactly. He definitely seems like the kind of guy who has, you know, maybe, you know, some champagne on New Year's Eve.
C
Right.
A
And then has to sleep it off.
C
The next big party glass of champagne.
A
1. I know, obviously he's our financial advisor. I know he has access to all of our records and everything, but I always pictured it was only macro level information, big picture stuff. Right.
C
It's quite detailed.
A
One of our early ish meetings with him several years ago, he said, oh, I just have. We were like wrapping up a meeting or something. He said, I just have one question for you. What is Touch Tunes? We're like, excuse me.
C
I like the way he said it. Touchtunes.
A
I'm just like, oh, so you see everything we buy? He's like, yeah, I noticed that you guys buy a lot of Touch tunes. I'm like, well, that is a. That's a jukebox.
C
Yeah. What you're seeing is our investment in jukebox music. How's it paying off? Not good. Not good. You guys, it's not paying off for you at all.
A
I don't know that everybody has financial advisors, but if they do, I'd be curious to know, do yours cry during the meetings? I don't even know what he looks like because his face is always buried in his hands while he's talking to us. Anyway. Oh, I have to get back to the story. So you volunteer without any input from me. But I honestly don't mind Like, I do think it's a, it's a good idea for us to, you know, they're literally our next door neighbors, like right across the.
C
Yeah, we like them.
A
We like, we like them a lot. I honestly feel very good about doing them a favor. I just love them as our, as our neighbors. They're renters and I really hope that they'll just stay there forever.
C
And I'm always, whenever I talk to the owner of the house, I'm always like, we love the. We love your renters.
A
Exactly.
C
Just keeping it, keeping you informed. They're great.
A
So yesterday I was at, I said the grocery store before, but it's actually the kind of restaurant supply store that we go to. It has all kinds of food and stuff, but it mostly sells food in bulk. And then you can buy all kinds of, you know, to go things. It's just, you know, if you run a restaurant or something, this is where you go. It's called US Chef store, I believe. And I go there to buy a bunch of cups and takeout containers for my volunteer gig. And I'm there about once a week. And I was actually standing behind a cool looking guy. There was a very long line yesterday. And this guy in front of me, I was like, man, this guy really looks like you're kind of almost your typical kind of Seattle bartender. He had on like a backwards foam old Camel cigarette hat. Camel. I guess Camel used to sponsor motocross things and said like Camel smoker cross or something. And so I was literally behind him in line googling, what is smoker cross? And. And it turns out I didn't realize until like, he gets to the cash register. I'm like, oh, that's our neighborhood. That's. That's an. I guess I won't say his name.
C
But it's the dog's own.
A
It's the dog's owner. It's Mag. It's Maggie's daddy. And I was like, oh, hey, man, I was standing behind you this whole time. I like your hat. And then like, right as he's being called to his cash register, I'm being called to the next cash register. So now we're sort of having this somewhat awkward conversation that everybody can hear who's waiting in line in the cash register, people? Because we're not next. We're kind of shouting across this little area. And I'm probably making it awkward. I should have just said hello and let it be that. But I said, oh, yeah, man, I like your hat. I was kind of googling that like kind of a retro camel. What's. I literally said that. And he said. And then he's like. And then from across the way, he's explaining how Cam Lee's a sponsor, a motocross thing. And I'm like, I shouldn't have asked you a follow up here. I'm sorry.
C
Yeah.
A
Anyway, he gets done. He works in the food industry, by the way. I believe he's a chef here locally. And so that makes sense why he was there. And as he's leaving, he's like, see ya. And again, I feel myself in this moment that I should have just. I shouldn't be following up with all these things. This is definitely a situation where you give a nod hello and you say, I'll see you at the picnic. Or I'll see.
C
You may say, what picnic? I've made a huge mistake.
A
I'll see you over the fence or whatever. You know what I mean? I'll see you later, dude. But instead, I keep asking questions. So my cashier is still ringing up my products. He's done quicker. And he's now walking out the do. And I just yell because I realize it's been again, close to a month since you told me we're doing this. But I have no details other than.
C
And I have done zero follow up. I will.
A
You've done zero follow up. We still don't know the dates. Are. Is it early October? Late October right now? We're almost to October. October is next week, right?
C
Yeah, indeed.
A
And so I saw. I yelled him. I'm like, hey, are we watching Maggie? Are we watching your dog? And he kind of turns around and he's like, yeah. And then he just says, yeah, we gotta talk sooner rather than later. Cause my girlfriend just brought home a puppy now and then kind of rolls his eyes a little bit and walks out the door. And I hear people laugh at that.
C
That's how you do a cliffhanger.
A
Yes. And I'm still hanging over the cliff.
C
Yeah.
A
I don't listen, like, I have been very willing to, you know, do this favor and watch Maggie. I think it'll be good for everybody involved, mostly the neighbors, but also good for us, but be a chore. It's something that, like, I have on my radar, sort of. But also I'm. You have some anxiety about. But I. But that I'm willing to, like, embrace and just see. See what happens.
C
The minimum viable product here is the dog survives.
A
Like, that's what's like survives and is in hand. Not survives, but is now living Somewhere else. Because it ran away.
C
Yeah, the dog. The dog is present and accounted for.
A
Present and accounted for and healthy.
C
Yeah.
A
And hasn't picked up any bad habits.
C
I mean, that dog. No offense to the neighbors, but the dog already has some bad habits.
A
I love Maggie. You will not besmirch my girl. Anyway, that's. So I'm thinking, okay, at some point, we gotta figure out what we're doing with Maggie. How's this gonna affect our life? I'm thinking again, the reason I thought of all this just a moment ago is because of all the cat hair around here. And I'm thinking, boy, if we have a dog, we're really gonna have to be, like, battling this stuff all the time. And that's I think, too, because the.
C
Kind of dogs we like tend to be shedders.
A
But the thing is, what is this? Wait, we're volunteering to watch a dog, and now suddenly I find out in the. In the grocery store, well, that's. There's a puppy involved now. Like, I don't. I don't know that I have the bandwidth to look after two. I don't have any experience with dogs. I don't know if you know that.
C
I do know that. I grew up with dogs. I'm just not that stressed about it. I think the neighbors and I share a certain amount of, like, confidence that things will work themselves out that you don't. Are not. That's just not your, like, way of moving through the world. Now, I will say you called me sort of frantically, and I saw a phone call from you, a missed phone call from you, and then a text message from you saying, please call me ASAP because we need to talk about the.
A
I don't think it's asap.
C
It sounded urgent.
A
It sounds here. Could you.
C
Why don't you read it?
A
I'll read it. I know I don't use the word. I don't use asap. And I actually, I was feeling very anxious, but I was trying to not say anything that would be too alarming, because I know for sure, like, I didn't say I was going to say. I just had a concerning conversation, but I know I didn't say concerning. I was actually trying to soft pedal this a little bit. Let's see here. I had given you a call. You didn't pick up. I didn't leave a voice message because I don't think you listen to voicemails. Right.
C
I don't really even know how anymore.
A
Okay, fair enough. So then I just followed up with a text that said, hey, give me a call when you have a second. I just had an interesting conversation with our neighbor regarding dog sitting.
C
Okay, maybe another person would read that and think it was like just a sort of a. Something you found noteworthy. But I know you really well and I know that the sequence of events as they unfolded meant that you were in some amount of anxiety.
A
Yes, exactly. But also you can assume that about every text message you get from me, even the sexts, even the many, many.
C
Years, you're the most anxious sexter.
A
Move on. Anyway, so you later on said, oh yeah, can I, can I have the neighbor's phone number? You didn't even have the neighbor's phone number and I sent it to you, but I assume that you have not.
C
I haven't followed up. I swear to you, I am going to do it. It is my, is one of my projects for this evening.
A
What are you.
C
I'm just going to walk over there if, I mean, I was away when I asked for his phone number and I was gonna either text or call him and then I got wrapped up in something else. But since I'm here, I think it's better to just like walk on over, knock on the door and I mean, if they have a puppy, I want to pet that puppy.
A
Well, how do you feel about watching both a old, like, you know, a three year old, pretty high energy dog plus a brand new puppy?
C
I don't know. I don't know if we are equipped and I'm gonna, that's why I wanna suss out the situation. If I don't feel that we're equipped, I'll be honest and say like, hey man, like we can absolutely take on. We, we are committed to and, and happy to take on the adult dog, but we are not in a place where we have 24, 7. We just, we just can't be available 247 for a puppy. And I kind of think in general that's what the puppy needs. I think that, you know, again, like I may, it may, it may be that we don't have all the facts and that there's some mitigating circumstance here. But I think if it's a puppy, there should be somebody else in their lives who can probably take the puppy in for the, for the duration. So I just, I'm not gonna rush to judgment. They're nice people, we have a great relationship and I will like figure out what we can sustainably do. And I, you know, I won't take on more than we can take on, but I am you know, I am still excited about having a dog in our lives for a little while, especially because this dog and Bingo have met several. They meet a lot. Like, they meet through the fence, and they. Bingo doesn't seem overly anxious about her, but the dog, like, gets really excited about Bingo, and it is a. It's a pit bull. Like, I don't mean that a pit bull's a vicious dog, but, you know, they're. They're a strong dog. So I'm really interested to see if we can have the dog living in our house and get to a level of calm and relaxation where Bingo could actually, like, they could spend time together in at least, you know, when they off leash, basically.
A
Wouldn't it be amazing if we woke up one morning and Maggie were staying here and they were snuggling?
C
That would be the dream, right? But I obviously want to be extremely cautious about how we, like, trust them to be unsupervised together.
A
What if we woke up one morning? Picture this, and Bingo is riding her around, and he's got a little cowboy hat.
C
Like, a little cowboy hat, pink cowboy hat. I love it. Oh, my God. Lil Nas. Bingo.
A
Oh, my God. And also, I hope he get used to every time we go to let Maggie out. Hey, guys. You ready to let the dogs out? What? Do what? Let the dogs out.
B
You know, like, who let the dogs out?
A
I can see us not getting a dog just because you want to avoid me being the Zach Elephantakis. I'm always here for who you say?
C
Oh, famously the Baja man.
A
That's right. Total recall from you.
C
Yeah.
A
So we should move on. That isn't even what I wanted to talk to you about today. And again, we do have to get to Luke's story, and then we'll do the blurs days. Then we got to get out of here because we're taping late and we're recording this. Usually when I have it posted, there's, like, people stamping their feet, stamping around, waiting for this. And also, we got to figure out what's going on with Luke, too. But I want to talk to you a little bit about your morning, because you had to rush out of here. Then you just came rushing back in here because you had to run to some shipping center to ship something off. This is all part of your burgeoning ebay business. You're an ebay businesswoman.
C
I'm an ebay businesswoman. I. It doesn't even. To call it a side hustle is to insult side hustles, because it's not really like that. But I love pottery. I think I kind of inherited that from my mom. My mom loves pottery and so I will periodically go on. And I love. And I love estate sales and I love auctions. So the convergence of all those loves is pottery that's often like, you know, in estate sales that, you know, someone dies or whatever and they've got a clean out their house and their stuff gets auctioned off. And I kind of discovered that I like learning about early and mid century American pottery. It's kind of its own genre of pottery and I really like it and I just, I love the quality of the craftsmanship and learning about the history of it. And you know, these are makers like Van Briggle is how I kind of got. First got into it as a famous pottery. And then like Roseville and Weller and McCoy and there's all these kind of pheasants under glass. Exactly. The brat. So the more, you know, the more you start to recognize things. Right. And it becomes like kind of a fun thing. Like someone's selling a piece of Roseville pottery that you know is undervalued or at the price that it's being auctioned off at. So you grab it. But I don't want our house to be completely filled with chalk cheese tchotchkes. I know you don't either.
A
Something we have in common.
C
So I. I try to like only I try. Occasionally I'll buy something for my own personal to keep it and I. We've display. I display a few of the pieces and I think you like the ones I've. I've kept for.
A
I've actually I. There were some. Just to prove that I'm not a total curmudgeon about these things. I do think that acquiring too much stuff in life is problematic and I don't like feeling cluttered in the home. But there have been at least once. There's been at least once or twice that I've said to you actually maybe we should keep that one.
C
Yeah. You suggested we keep this one that we have out there. That's. Oh, I forget who makes it if it's Franciscan or. Anyway, it's one of those mid century ones. It's a lovely. And it's like all this art deco stuff and. Art deco.
A
Yeah. That one that we kept was an art deco y.
C
Pretty dark deco. Yeah. So it. So but I. But I can sometimes spot something that I know we don't want to display ourselves but is valuable. And so I'll judiciously buy up Lots of pottery. And then I just was like, well, I don't want to keep them. Maybe I could try selling it on Craigslist. But Craigslist is difficult. You're so limited to your, like, local market. And, like, people aren't really.
A
Because you have to deliver it or meet people, right?
C
You have to deliver it in person. You don't really ship it through Craigslist. And you also. Craigslist. I found its utility is limited for collectors. People who are serious collectors and know about things are not usually looking on Craigslist. They're usually looking either, you know, at consignment shops or on ebay or, like, more places where it's, like, a little bit more curated. So I kind of late in life decided to get into trying to sell things on ebay. And it's a little bit. You just kind of, like, once you learn how to sort of do it, and it's all very turnkey. They do take a hefty chunk of what you make, but they are providing a pretty valuable service. But the nice thing is once you've put it up there, it just stays up there forever. I keep all of my stuff stored in the garage, and I save any cardboard box that comes my way. And then once in a blue moon, like, I woke up this morning, some. What was it? It was. Was it McCoy? Anyway, some pieces that had been. That I had just sitting on my ebay store forever. I got an offer for it, and it was slightly below what I listed it at, but that's fine. And I accepted the offer and packed them up and shipped them. The irony was that it's a place to a house in Seattle that's like three miles from here.
A
Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that, but I guess the key thing here is you're sort of the reason you're able to buy it and make a profit off it is because you're buying it in these lots. Right. And therefore, they're just kind of like, oh, I'm buying this other stuff too. And because one thing I found in the modern age, like, I don't get into really collecting things, but every now and then I kind of, you know, I'll talk to you about, like, those little GI Joe men. We have, like, two or three GI Joe men here, and a couple of them broke as. As they often do from dry rot. And so you bought a bunch of these little rubber rings that you can use to repair action figures. And we only had, like, two action figures to repair, but you bought a lot of, like, 50 or 100 of.
C
They only sell those rubber rings and.
A
Like a lot of 50, probably like a dollar or something. So we had all these rings and you and I were like, well, let's go online and just buy some old crappy GI Joes that are broken and put them back together.
C
What could be simpler?
A
Yeah, but in this day and age, you can't just say, oh, I'm going to find some cheap GI Joe's. Because there's such a collector's mentality around everything. And by the time it makes its way online, you're not just like discovering things. You have to literally go to somebody's garage sale or estate sale where somebody is under pressure to just get rid of a whole bunch of stuff as fast as possible. And they're not like looking at, oh, are these toys from my adult son's youth worth anything?
C
You have to kind of get lucky.
A
By the time you get online and you're looking for that. Like, honestly, a broken GI Joe figure of very little renown. I'm not even talking about the Dukes of the World or the Cobra Commanders. A real red shirt, just some red shirt who drove a dude generic tank or whatever is like $35.
C
It's insanity.
A
Broken.
C
Yeah, broken. We won't pay that.
A
And so anyway, my point of all of that blabbering is that seems to be the way of the collecting world these days. By the time you're on ebay or.
C
Something, the value has been established.
A
Yeah, the ability to just stumble on a really good find that people have undervalued has really gotten more difficult as the world, with the help of the Internet, has really taken on this collector's mindset.
C
That's essentially why what I'm getting paid for by selling these on ebay is the time I take to go on an auction and keep track of it in the auction and then like make a smart bid at the auction or buy a lot of thing. Like buy a lot of an auction lot that has like 10 pieces of pottery. Two of them might be valuable. The rest of them I either like free cycle or goodwill or whatever. But I. It's the culling and curating that I am essentially making money on my ability to spot a value and then like price it appropriately on ebay.
A
So I have a question for you about today's shipping. So you, you woke up, you saw that somebody had ordered something that was just like kind of sitting on your ebay site, and you told me you're like, oh, I could have just driven this to his house? Yeah, because he lives here in Seattle and not that far away, but I already charged him for shipping and everything, so I have to go and make it.
C
Like, he wants to be able to. I'm sure, wants to be able to see, like, the track. And I do, too. Like, that it was delivered. You know that, like, it's. There's an accountability that is. Ebay is like, you're protected more if you do it the way that they, like, set it up.
A
Because I was going to say, like, if it was just the. The idea that, oh, he'd already paid however much you charge for shipping, what are the Five, six bucks or something like that. I think I said ducks. I don't think they accept. I don't think they take any waterfowl as payment these days. But I was just thinking, like, you could still drive it to his house, because five or six dollars hand delivered. If you had just dropped this off on. Let's say he has a porch or something.
C
Yeah.
A
If you had hand delivered this, put it on the porch and taken a photo of it with your phone and said, here, I've delivered it for you, and here's proof that it made it to where it's supposed to. That's still worth five or six dollars. Right. Like, does. Does he sort of thing like, oh, that's a ripoff. You charged me for shipping.
C
Well, it's not like I get that money for shipping. Ebay gets it and they apply it to the. I guess if I had known there was probably. Yes. If I was really committed to, like, figuring out how to do that, I probably could have gotten the $6 applied to my ebay account or whatever. But I honestly don't think anyone who's doing business through ebay is, like, anxious for an ebay seller, no matter how nice they might be to just, like, come to their house. I don't think that's like, no one's doing ebay because they want a craigslist experience.
A
Okay. I want you to know that I was doing a little bit of research for this conversation, and I found your ebay page.
C
Yep.
A
I don't know if you. Do you want people to know what it is? You sure?
C
Yeah. It's not.
A
It's not a secret, Lady McVieves.
C
It is a stupid name now, but it's been my ebay name for 20 years now.
A
You just set that up when you were buying things?
C
Yeah, I used to just buy things. I still buy a lot of stuff on ebay more now that I quit Amazon is Lady.
A
Did I used to call you Lady McVieves? That sounds like something.
C
Yeah, you call me Lady McBeebs. And then I just needed like a unique name as an ebay user, and that just came to mind.
A
So the Lady McVie's Lady McVieves. What do you think your rating is on ebay?
C
I think it's pretty good. I don't know. What are. What is it, like, out of five?
A
No, it's a percentage.
C
I think it's probably like 99.
A
It's 100.
C
Oh, great.
A
Congratulations.
C
Thank you. Nice.
A
Your bell over there, you can use it too, if you want. It's between us. It looks like you have 100% positive feedback out of 63. I guess not reviews. It's probably just somebody giving you a star or something. Are you surprised that you've done business with 63 people?
C
Most of those are me buying from other people. You also get your review is a total review of you as a seller and a buyer.
A
Ooh, they should break that out.
C
I guess. So what I mean, it sort of all speaks to like, are you responsible? Are you accountable? Like, but I. The things, the reviews I am the most proud of because, like, obviously I pay for stuff that I buy. You can't even get it unless you pay for it. And I don't really return. I don't think I've. I think one time I returned a tube of makeup that had clearly been opened and I was like, this is not what I ordered. But generally I'm a good buyer, easy to work with. But the. As a seller, that's where like, I appreciate the reviews that say, like, nicely packaged, you know, like.
A
Want me to share something?
C
Sure, why not?
A
I'm on your page. You only have four reviews right now.
C
Yeah, I haven't sold very many things.
A
One of them was a vintage McCoy pottery. Somebody gave you a. It looks like a five star review or four star, whatever the top is. And it says beautiful pottery.
C
Yeah, I mean, that's really down to the pottery. I always let the pottery do most of the work.
A
Yeah, sure. Order completed, successfully tracked and on time.
C
Yeah, it's always funny. Like, I never know.
A
That was a pink vase, by the way. Do you say vase now that it's kind of your business?
C
No, I sell American pottery. I'm sure we say vase.
A
We say vase.
C
I think it's always funny when they want you. Like, I do review sellers because I want them to. I know the reviews and the ratings are important, but then it's always. It makes you make a Comment. And it's like, I don't know, like I, you know, I bought it, I paid for it, they sent it to me. Like, what else do you want to know? Like, I'm not looking for. I don't need a song and dance here. So I just always write like, you know, like great, great interaction or something just to like, so that it's clear that like, yes, everything went as planned.
A
Here's one that says, item arrived safely, exactly as described. Fast shipping, good communication. Thank you.
C
I don't even know what I communicated sometimes I put a note in the box that says like, thanks for your order.
A
Here's one that says gorgeous cleaned up, amazing. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, here. I don't know, my microphone fell.
C
Uh oh, I did see that one about cleaned up. Amazing that that particular item was in brand new condition. I don't know what they were doing.
A
I know, yeah, I was, I was gonna ask you about that. And then you just have one, you only have five. I guess I thought it was four. But another one says very prompt service. Thank you for the communication. I do try to, try to be nicer to your boyfriend.
C
I do try to be really fast about shipping because they're like as soon as you accept an offer and the money has been transferred, the clock is ticking on you to get. Because I have like a two day guarantee that it'll ship in two days.
A
The one issue. You and I have been trying to use ebay a little bit more lately because we stopped using Amazon and a.
C
Lot of the kinds of things that we would get, just like little dumb things like GI Joe O rings.
B
Yeah.
C
I would now go to ebay for.
A
And one thing that we've noticed is sometimes you're still, you're, you're still not really avoiding Amazon because people are sort of. Even though you're not technically supposed to do this, people are somehow using Amazon to drop ship stuff.
C
Right.
A
So in other words, you go on ebay, you say, yes, I want this digital converter or whatever. And then it shows up and it was clearly shipped from Amazon. They just bought it. And that's against the rules. It says that Amazon says you can do drop shipping, but you have to have a, you have to have an agreement with the provider. You can't just use Amazon, but people are doing it anyway. But you know, you and I, we do our best, but I have been using ebay the way you sort of suggested. And I needed this thing that I'm holding right now, Vs, which is a specialty media card reader. My mom passed away recently and she has some of these very old compact flash cards that used to go in our early generation digital cameras. And she had some of these laying around. So I want to see, you know, what, what photos she has so I can share them with the family and everything. And I didn't have anything that could read this old school media. And I, it turns out I had to buy two of these things because then I found I bought this one so that I could read these particular cards. And this is like a three in one reader. And then I found another card that I thought was just like a more standard digi card, but it's also something from like 2006. So now I had to buy it one that's like a seven in one reader.
C
But media formats are so insane.
A
All of that is to say this little doohickey that I bought bought did come in a. This is like a, you know, it's a USB C thing you plug in and it's got like three different slots for cards to go in. And it was, you know, six bucks or something. I bought it on ebay and when it showed up, I ripped open the package and it was still in a box. So presumably never used. The box was clearly not brand new, though it looks like it had kicked around for a while. But here was the kicker that I liked was it had a little handwritten note from somebody named Amy who has very bubbly handwriting that just said, thanks for your order, hope you love this or something.
C
So you do like getting the note.
A
The reason I liked the note was it was another insurance or an assurance, I should say, that it wasn't drop ship, that this was somebody who had this thing for some reason. Maybe she goes around collecting things from estate sales or maybe she just has stuff she's trying to get rid of.
C
Sure.
A
But either way it was just sort of a, hey, you're dealing with a real human here. And I didn't just turn around and buy this.
C
Anyone receiving the packages that I send will know that they were. I mean, for one thing it would.
A
Be covered in cat hair.
C
It would be amazing if like mid century pottery was being dropshipped. But everyone will know that they are from a real person because I do a somewhat, let's call it an idiosyncratic method of packing, of packing the stuff. Because obviously it's critical that these things are well wrapped and tightly, tightly packed into the boxes that I packed them in because they can't be rattling around in there. That's the most important thing is that they're like stable in the box because they're ceramic. And the whole thing is someone's paying for a piece of ceramic or pottery that's in the condition it was promised. I always wrap them really carefully and then I pack them into a cardboard box. And then to make sure that there's no movement in the box, I don't have an unlimited supply of bubble wrap. And I'm trying to obviously minimize my expenses because everything I spend to do this little, you know, these little sales, it cuts into my profit. But I have, you know, I do so much sewing that I'm constantly like, I have constantly, like sort of odds and ends of fabric that are not useful to me. I don't do quilting. They're not useful to me in any kind of sewing projects. So you're very likely, if you buy from Lady McVieve's, to get something that is packed in like random scraps of weird fabric because it just fills up the box and like, keeps it stable. And.
A
Yeah, I mean, I ordered something recently that was. Is very breakable and I really, I unpacked it and it was so well packed. I actually did go to ebay and wrote a review. I don't know if I would have done that other otherwise, but I was just like, so impressed with how well and how carefully they packed it. And the thing that I also really loved about it was part of the packing. Not all of it, but part of the packing was old newspaper pages. Not even that old, but it was from, I want to say, a Detroit free weekly newspaper or something like that. And there's something about that that I love. Right. I was opening it up and looking, oh, what's going on in Detroit? You know, what shows are coming, artists are coming to the. That's.
C
That is. What's fun about ebay is it's like. And as it was intended to be peer to peer people selling things that they, that they have and are willing to. To sell to another peer. And ebay, you know, takes a cut, as they should. They're providing a service, but it's. I kind of prefer that, that to like, what is essentially like the drop shipping that you mentioned or like people who just sort of. It's sort of like one aspect of their larger business that they do and they have a warehouse somewhere full of USB sticks or whatever.
A
I don't mind if it's a record store or something like that, Although they usually use Discogs. But anyway, we don't have to get into all that. Listen, we really do have to listen to Luke's story and figure out what is going on.
C
I can't continue to market my. I can't market my ebay business well.
A
You know, I think that's pretty good. And I didn't have you on there necessarily to market it. I really do find it fascinating because, like, it kind of went from, oh, I bought this thing, I'm going to sell it. And you kind of do have a little operation going and you have stuff up there right now. I'm not trying to use the. This podcast to get listeners to buy your stuff. It didn't even really occur to me that that might be how this is coming off. But, like, you do have a little. You have a little business going.
C
Yeah, I do. And it's there. I try. There are things that I have that I want to sell right now, which I have on Craigslist that I have avoided putting on ebay because I actually do sort of feel like I'm developing a little bit of a brand and if I just randomly put, like, I have a hair dryer I'm trying to sell, right? It's like a nice hair dryer. I'm not gonna put it on ebay because I don't want to just be like random junk that people buy.
A
When somebody goes to your profile, someone.
C
Goes to my profile. I want. It actually is sort of part of building credibility is to be like, yeah, I actually know a little bit about mid century and early. Early American, early 20th century American Potteryou can trust that. If I'm saying it's a, you know, this is what it's worth that it is worth that you can trust that. I'm. If I'm saying this is the condition it's in that it's in that condition and that it just. I'm trying to build a little bit of a. Of a reputation around a very niche interest that I have that I mean, you know, a few other people share.
A
All right, well, speaking of the listeners who may or may not be interested in checking out your ebay page, they're definitely interested in making sure that TBTL has a future and that Luke gets home okay. And potentially their donations will help to that end. Thank you, baby. That's right. We want to thank the folks who make TBTL possible by donating during our TBTL a thon. This is. This is no small service that these folks provide year in and year out, providing the funds to allow us to do this show. I'm not joking. It's very important. And we're super appreciative of people like Jennifer Brooks of La Verne, California. Veeves. La Verne, California. Have you ever been?
C
No. I don't even know what part of the state it's in.
A
Burn, burn, burn, burn, burn. I don't know what part of the state is in either. But Jennifer is there and she's supporting tbtl. Thank you very much. So is Ann Taylor in Washington, D.C. another familiar name. Thank you so much, Ann, for donating and supporting us for so long. Brittany Pendergraft of Mukil Tio, Washington.
C
I know where that is.
A
Yes. Is that also where the Muckleshoot Casino is, or am I confusing them just because they both start with Muckle?
C
Oh, I don't. I don't know if I sort of think of them as being in the same vicinity, but I wouldn't swear to it.
A
Yeah. Kendra Miller is donating and listening in Bellingham, Washington. I know exactly where Bellingham is. I'm sorry that Luke couldn't be here to celebrate Bellingham. With us today, Melody Feden of Canyon City, Oregon. See, this is one of those moments where, and I say this sincerely, I feel like I need a button I can press to put an echo on my voice sometimes.
C
Oh, because of can.
A
I feel like you. You can. You need Kenyan City. You say it like that, it needs to have a nice, long ring out. And unfortunately, I don't have the technology to do that. But thank you, Melody, so much. And Isa Web of Baldwin, and I almost said Montana, but this is Missouri. Mo. Right?
C
Mo, Missouri.
A
Baldwin, Missouri. Thank you, Isa. I could be Issa, but I think it's isoweb. Thank you so much to everybody for donating and making TBTL possible. All right, Vivs, you ready for this? And again, I want to say, I know I joke around sometimes on the show or I will spoof around, but this is not a bit. I really don't know what happened with last night. I think I said this at the top of the show. He had texted me. Like, we were sort of on a sports text chain. And I could tell that he's like, people were talking about the football game that was about to start, and he's like, well, I'm still stuck in. In an airport. I thought it was in Oregon, but based on the intro tape we heard at the beginning of the show, it sounds like he was in Sea Tac.
C
Yeah.
A
So he flew up here or maybe drove up here and was supposed to fly out to the Twin Cities. I assume that he will explain this in the. In the message. And he was texting me. He's like, I just. I don't know. Like, he was trying to figure out if we could do the show, but it would have to be at like 6 in the morning or something because his flight out was at like 8:30 or something. I was like, yeah, just. I'll. I'll handle the show tomorrow. I'll figure something out. We can do blurs days and, you.
C
Know, got some pottery she needs to mark.
A
That hadn't even. That hadn't even occurred to me yet. But anyway, so. So we were kind of techies. Yeah. He's like. I almost wish. I wish we could just talk about this because you're not going to believe what happened to me. I said, okay, well, send me the voice message. And he did. But then I got into the Seahawks game and I got into the Mariners game, and I never checked this. So I figured, let's just listen to this. If you want, we can just leave our mics open if you want to stop. I can stop the tape if you need. If you want to interject anything. But just know that if you have questions or something, Luke can't answer them. This is. You understand? This is just a recording.
C
Well, what if I. What if I have a question for Luke, though?
A
But. So you're gonna hear Luke's voice?
C
Yeah.
A
And he's gonna set out the story. He'll start talking, and it'll sound like he's here in the room with us. Through your headphones.
C
Yeah.
A
And if you have anything you want to say, I can stop the tape and you can say it, and the listeners will hear it.
C
Gotcha.
A
He will not be able to hear you because this is something he recorded last night.
C
Well, I don't really follow, but let's just get into it and see how it goes.
A
Okay. Do you have any questions for Luke before we begin? All right, Luke, what's up with you, man?
B
Okay, I made it here to the double tree, and I'm fully naked, which, by the way, is relevant to the story. Let me just explain that in a minute. In the meantime, Andrew, I know that when you see a voicemail that's longer than about 90 seconds, you usually just sort of delete it. And if you want to do that with this, that's fine. Or if you want to edit it for length and clarity, that's fine too. Good luck with that. Also, I do work here, so I'm hoping maybe, you know, like, there'll be some professional courtesy you'll let me kind of. I Don't know. Blather on here a bit.
A
Just for the record, I don't delete voice. I listen to all voicemails, and sometimes I even edit them down. Don't. Don't let Luke discourage you from calling 206-414-8285.
B
I'll try not to make this too long and boring, but that is kind of my specialty. So the plan was I was supposed to fly out early this morning from Portland directly to Minneapolis, but because of some stuff with CBS where they needed me to be in a fixed location today, I had to actually change to an afternoon flight. And the afternoon flight, that one was from Portland to Seattle and then from Seattle to Minneapolis. And so when I got to Portland, I, I had to check my suitcase because I have kind of a lot of stuff of a suit that I'm going to be wearing tonight at the Fine Line in Minneapolis for LiveWire. I can't wait to see some of you there. That is, if I make it there. But hopefully that will all come together. I had a lot of stuff for the weekend and everything, and so I needed to check a suitcase, and I did in Portland. So I get to the gate and they make an announcement that the airplane we're going to be taking from Portland to Seattle has not arrived and in fact, is delayed and is not going to be here for a while. And the thing is, I don't have a ton of time to make my connecting flight in Seattle. And in fact, a lot of people who are waiting near me are in the same predicament. Either they're literally on the same flight that I'm on or they're on some other connecting flight. But it's a very tense situation because we're all trying to decide what to do. Do we just go home and come back tomorrow? Do we want to be stuck in Seattle? I will tell you that I had been upgraded for the Seattle to Minneapolis flight, and so I was really keen on getting on that flight if I could. And also I just wanted to, you know, get to Minneapolis on as at this point it was Thursday night so that I could wake up fresh as a spring daisy Friday morning and be ready to take on the day and do TBTL and get all ready for LiveWire. So I kind of had to roll the dice. And I did got on the plane in Portland. And the thing was, it was a shout out to our flight attendant, Robin. Oh my gosh, Robin. What an angel sent down from heaven to yell at people that they need to get in their seats and get their seatbelts on because our flight is late and a bunch of people are going to miss their connections. She was absolutely taking zero shit from anyone who was delaying the process of our airplane getting off the ground. And I absolutely loved it. It was basically like my. All of my internal anxiety about how long everything was taking, like, all of it was externalized and then personified into a person. And that person's name was Robin, and she was incredible. She was also, like, yelling at the guys loading the luggage to go as fast as they could. They weren't, by the way. And I don't blame them, because, look, if it's not a fun job, if I had to load luggage into airplanes all day long every day, I would also not be setting any land speed records. But a couple of these guys, one of them was great, by the way, but a couple of them were really in no rush. And the thing about that was it just meant that we pushed back even later than we thought we were going to. And now at this point, probably the airplane is going to land in Seattle 15 minutes before my flight is taking off.
A
Off.
B
That is really, like, that's too close. Like, that's probably not gonna work. I don't know. Maybe I hit a wormhole somewhere in SeaTac and I get over to my new gate, or they're maybe feeling charitable. They see that I'm on a different flight of theirs that is late because of the airline, and maybe they hold the flight for me and the others. So it's still a teeny weeny chance that I might make this connecting flight. And then as we are taxiing on the Runway in Portland and we are about to take off, we are the next plane in line. Something truly sad happens. Instead of continuing forward and then flying up into the sky, which is where airplanes belong, we kind of took a left and pulled off to the side of the Runway and parked the airplane because we were the pilot announced being held on the ground by Sea tac airport for flow control. Basically, SeaTac said, we got too many planes. We don't need any more planes, so don't you even take off from Portland until we have room for more planes. That took about 30 minutes, which was, if you're doing the math at home, the window of time that I had to possibly make my flight. And Robin leaned over to me and she said, you know, if we would have taken off two minutes earlier, we'd be in the sky right now. And I so appreciated that level of honesty from her, but I still don't know emotionally where to put that information I'm talking about to this very moment, sitting in this hotel room fully naked. More on that in a minute. So I. As we take off finally, and I know that I'm not gonna make my connecting flight, an odd calm comes over me. You know, they say that when, like, you're. You're dying of hypothermia out in the Arctic or something, you actually get kind of really warm near the end. They find people who have frozen to death, but they've taken off all of their clothes. I kind of had a moment of sweet, sweet surrender. I was like, I'm not gonna make the connecting flight. Okay. You know what's happening right now in my life? I'm looking at Mount Rainier and it's beautiful. And the clouds are all kind of pink and fluffy as the sun is starting to set. And like, I'm in. I'm in.00001% of the entire history of human population who gets to see something like this. Nobody got to see this a hundred years ago. And none of this will be here in a hundred years. Probably not even in 10 years. Like, what a gift. What a cool thing that I get to be on this airplane and it's beautiful and like, it's fine, you know, I'm not going to get on that other flight. It's okay. And a calm kind of, you know, as we would say in the church, I had the peace that passes understanding down in my heart. And that was feeling really good until we landed. And I looked at the little thing on my phone, the little Alaska Airlines app, and I saw that, that in fact the flight I was trying to catch, the flight that should have already taken off, it was also delayed. Now cue the Jalapeno song, please. And in fact, it was about 6:40 at night. Now, the plane was now delayed and not going to take off until 7pm I had 20 minutes, which is not a lot of time, but it should be enough time for me to run through the airport. And by run, I mean briskly walk, because I don't really run through the airport ever. I don't know if it was those O.J. simpson Hurts commercials that scarred me or just, I don't know, I'm too embarrassed. I never run. But I do walk very briskly, which is almost like jogging. So the plane lands, we get over to the airport, whatever thing, Jetway, they open the door. I grab my bag. I high five Robin on my way out. I briskly speed walk towards the gate. Which of Course, as Murphy's Law would have it, it's like I've got to get on that little underground train and go out to the end gates, the end of the world gates at sea tac, which are, like, very far away from everything. But I'm still feeling okay because it's like, 6:49 now, and I've got. Now I've developed like a crew. We are the Minnesota kids. We are the folks that are all trying to make this Minneapolis flight. And we're kind of moving in a pack now. And so we get up the escalator and we come around the corner, and I. I see that the door. The gate is. The door to the gate is open. Like, the door is not closed. And I throw my fist in the air, like, what is it? Judge Judd Nelson at the end of the Breakfast Club? I throw my fist in the air triumphantly. Because I'm looking at our gate N17, and I'm looking at the door, and it's open. And one of the things that Robin had told me was, she said, sometimes, you know, they know where you are because you're on an Alaska flight, and if they've got a bunch of you, and particularly if some of you are, like, high status with the airline, like, you know, 100k not to brag, they'll hold the flight. She goes, I just did that the other day. We had to hold the flight for one of you people. Now, usually when they say one of you people, it's not good, but in this case, it was very good. I thought I was happy to be one of you people if one of you people were the people they're holding the flights for. Come around the corner. I see that the door to the Jetway is still open. I raise my fist triumphantly. And right as I'm doing that, I see something truly horrific that makes me want to draw my fist down very quickly. And that is at the end of the Jetway. There is a tiny little space between the jetway and the aeroplane that we want to be on. It's a distance of about one foot. But as we all know, that one foot might as well be the Grand Canyon, because once the door of the airplane is closed and that little weird sandworm from Dune detaches from the airplane, it will never reattach again to that plane. It is one of the. And at this point, with the number of norms that are being challenged in our world and in our country specifically, that might be the last thing that we can all sort of rely on to be the case is that when that Jetway moves away from that side of that airplane, even if it's only by one foot, the twain shall never meet again. Not for that flight. And I was so unbelievably devastated because, by the way, the airplane didn't even go anywhere for, like, 20 minutes. It was just sitting there. And I went over to the nearest gate agents, who, by the way, were not even the gate agents who had made that decision. They were on a different flight, but there was no one around. And I just said, did they really have to push that plane back? I mean, we all were running for the flight, and you guys know that we were on your other airplane that was delayed. You can, like, see us in the system. And they said, well, you know, the flight was supposed to take off at 6:38. And I said, I know that, but it was supposed to be delayed till 7. And it's like 6:51 right now. I go, where's the gate agent that was in charge of that? And they go, oh, they left. And I was like, I bet they didn't leave. And sure enough, at some point, this guy comes ambling up the Jetway, the guy who had allowed our airplane to leave. And I said, hey, man. I go, that's such a bummer. Like that. You guys pushed the flight. The plane back from the Jetway, because, I mean, we all ran over here, although some of us briskly walked. We ran over here across the airport to try to catch this flight. We were only late because of the other flight. And you can see us in the system. I go, we missed this by two minutes. And the guy. And also the two other women, the three Alaska Airlines employees said in unison, as if they practiced. They go, well, no, you missed it by at least four minutes. And this is where I want to make an impassioned argument for the value that TikTok has added to my life or the. The good that it may have done me. A lot of my time is spent looking at TikTok, and a lot of that time is spent looking at people who are having total meltdowns at airports. And I would say that most of the time when I'm watching those videos, I can't believe that these people are having these meltdowns. I cannot believe how silly they look. And I'm appalled at their behavior. Listener and Andrew and Bingo and Genevieve, if you were. If you were able to cancel some of your morning meetings and be part of TBTL today, I. I, in this moment, absolutely identified with the people that are going Insane in airports. And what I wanted to do was pick up the Alaska Airlines kiosk for the Atmos credit card, which I also, by the way, have, and hurl it into the sun. But I didn't do that, because I've watched people do that on TikTok. And so when I feel like losing my shit in public, I also have this little kind of. I just say, it's a cell phone on my shoulder, and it's reminding me that those kinds of public freakouts do not age well. And so then I don't have them. So what I said to these people, I was kind of proud of it. These employees who were clarifying that we had missed the flight by four minutes and not two minutes, I said, hey, respectfully, do you feel like this is the thing you want to be right about? And. And then I asked, well, how do I get my luggage? Because I guess I'm gonna have to get a flight out tomorrow because there were no more flights. And the. The gate agent, she said, for that, you need to go down to baggage claim and tell them that you need to get your suitcase. And I said, okay. And so they printed me out a little boarding pass for the Friday flight, which, by the way, middle seat.
A
Back.
B
Of the plane, middle seat. And I. I was, you know, like Charlie Brown walking my way through the airport now with my paper ticket for a back of the plane, middle seat. And I'm. I go to the baggage claim, and I said, hey, I had a suitcase. It was on the flight from Portland to Seattle.
A
Now, I'm gonna guess here that Luke's suitcase is there and everything is fine.
C
Yeah. And he's just. There's some other reason that he's fully naked.
A
And the reason he went back to get naked in the hotel room is just because he likes to feel the air on his body. That's my guess.
C
He's a secret nudist.
A
So you would agree with that, too. That's your prediction.
C
That's also my prediction.
A
Okay, let's see how close we are to the truth here.
B
Said, hey, I had a suitcase. It was on the flight from Portland to Seattle. It was supposed to be. And I was supposed to be on the flight from Seattle to Minneapolis, but that didn't happen. So can I please get my suitcase? The woman looks at me with a straight face, and she says, I can put the order in for your bag, but it'll be four hours. And this was another moment where I really had to reach deep to stifle my inner hulk, because the idea that like I would not be able to get my toiletries, my underwear, my dead is change of underwear, my hairbrush, everything that I need to get on the airplane tomorrow is in that suitcase. That is why, my friends, I don't have any clothes on right now because I need everything to be. I did not get my suitcase, by the way. I was not gonna wait four more hours.
A
Ugh, I was wrong about that. Viv, did you want to jump in here?
C
Yes. I had a somewhat thing happened to me once. I was flying cross country and our plane got diverted somehow. Like we were supposed to be flying home. It was a really. It was already like we were super, super late. And I don't remember now the ins and outs, but instead of flying into Seattle, we landed in Chicago or some midwestern city. I think it was Chicago. And they just had to like land the plane. It was either weather or some, some reason that the plane unexpectedly had to. We had to spend the better part of a night in Chicago. And they put us all on. I mean, they, they, you know, gave us all a hope. Put us all in the same hotel, little motel right by the airport. It was all very much like, we're a crew. We're all these passengers on this plane, like getting off the plane together, getting on a shuttle bus together, going to this hotel together. But like Luke, I was not able to get my bag for this adventure. And I was only gonna be. I was going to spend probably like six hours at best asleep in this motel before they came and got us the next morning and put us on the first flight back to Seattle. And I also didn't have any clothes for the next day. And I ended up. It was like the middle of winter. I remember I rinsed out my under things and let them dry on the radiator in this shitty motel. And that is why I have never since that time left without a change of underpants in my carrying basics.
A
All right, well, let's see.
C
So Luke's deodorant underpants stay on my person when I travel.
A
I learned that with medication too.
C
Yes, medication, same thing.
B
Underwear, my dead is change of underwear, my hairbrush, Everything that I need to get on the airplane tomorrow is in that suitcase. That is why, my friends, I don't have any clothes on right now because I need everything to be. I did not get my suitcase, by the way. I was not going to wait four more hours. I got here in the hotel room and then I had to disrobe. So that by the way, this is not the kind of Hotel where they give you a bathrobe, tell you that, you know, I was once at this hotel, probably 25 years ago. There were. Charlton Heston was doing a book signing, and I worked at the conservative talk radio station, and I was, I don't know, dispatched to somehow come down here. And I don't know if I was covering it or if I was security detail for Charlton Heston, but I have been in this hotel before with Charlton Heston and his formidable toupee while he signed copies of one of his crazy conservative books. Anyway, anyway, the reason that I had to take all my clothes off is because I have to wear those clothes tomorrow on the plane sitting next to unsuspecting people. I don't have a change of clothes, my friends. Hence the nudity. I don't want to end this long rambling message on the negative, so let me just tell you about something also positive that happened to me at the airport. And that was an incredible moment of grace. I realized after I wasn't gonna make my flight and after there weren't any other flights that, like, I was gonna be at that airport for a minute. And also I just realized what I needed to do. And what I wanted to do was to watch the finale of the Seattle Seahawks game Thursday Night Football and eat some soup from the Alaska Airlines lounge. And it turns out I was right there near the lounge. But I did not want to pay for this, and I did not want to use up one of my day passes. I have some day passes, but they're kind of valuable and expensive and worth their weight in soup. And so I decided to try something. I went up to this kindly gentleman, an older gentleman, who was working the, you know, the entry there desk. And I'm not gonna. I don't want to give too many details for reasons that will become clear, but I just said to the guy, hey, I am really having a tough day. I was on a flight from Portland up here. It was late, which meant I couldn't make my Minneapolis flight, which means I'm gonna have to stay the night here in Seattle. And what I could really use is just a cup of soup and watching the last 15 minutes of the Seahawk game. And I said to him, I go now. I have guest passes for this place. I have some passes, but I. I don't want to use one of those. Could I just please go in there for 15 minutes and eat some soup and watch the end of the Seahawks game? And he looks me dead in the eye and he says, I'm sorry. We have to do a head count. We've got to have a pass for every person who's in there. And, well, let's just say thank God for TikTok, because once again, stifled the urge to absolutely lose my mind and instead I just said in a kind of dejected, broken way, well, what do you need from me then to, you know, deduct one of my passes, you know, because that's what they do. Like you've got them on your phone or something, I don't know. And he goes, well, I just got to see your boarding pass. And I said, okay, sir. And I like, open up my boarding pass for my flight that's already departed. And I sadly hold it up for him to scan it. And he holds up the iPad and I realize something, the iPad's not on. He looks at me and he just silently points with his finger like, get in there, champ. And I realize that he is fake scanning my pass so that I can go in and have my cup of soup and watch Jason Myers hit a game winning field goal. And when I tell you the absolute, the way that, that restored my faith in humanity, that guy sneaking into the lounge, he also winked. And it was one of those winks that in the movie, it's like you're at the hardware store and there's the kindly guy who runs the hardware store and he's got, you know, he's an older gentleman. Maybe he's got a beard, maybe the beard is kind of white and. And he winks at you and that's the moment you realize he's also Santa. That's what it was like. It was so incredibly life affirming. Was it life affirming enough that I'm grateful for the whole series of events and that I'm here in this Doubletree Inn nude? No, let's not get crazy. But it was pretty cool and it did make you feel a lot better. And after the Seahawks had won and I had filled up on soup and I was eating a chocolate chip cookie and I was walking out of that lounge, I fist bumped that kindly old gentleman. And honestly, it did, it did restore my faith in humanity. So that is the story, my friends, of how I got to this hotel room and how my day went. Andrew, again, I don't know if you're gonna play this or not or edit it or not or what have you. I mean, it is taking up a significant chunk of show that you don't have to deal with. So I guess that's kind of a W, right? Anyway, I Guess that's gonna be it for my contribution today on the program, I think, Andrew, you've got it from here. Thank you, everyone. I'll see some of you tonight at the Fine Line Theater in Minneapolis. The rest of you I'll see on the imaginary radio on Monday day. So thanks and take it away. Bingo.
A
Yeah, bingo's no help here. Luke. I. What. What were your predictions for why Luke was naked?
C
It had to be luggage.
A
You had already thought, oh, I mean.
C
There'S only one reason I be maybe because I had that experience in Chicago where I was like. I sadly was like sleeping naked in this because I didn't have pajamas either. I'm not going to like sleep in my like travel clothes that I have also have to put on the next day with my still slightly damp underpants from the washing them out, you know. So, yeah, I had a feeling it was. It was luggage related.
A
I honestly thought. And this is where I once the idea of being naked. I was like did. I thought he was gonna get into an altercation and somebody was gonna spill something on him. I thought maybe he was running through the airport and maybe was just about to make it and then was gonna hit like a. Accidentally ran into somebody who was like, like carrying like maybe there were two guys carrying a big thing of glass across the way. And he almost hit that, but he dodged. But then he hit a tray, a.
C
Vat of acid fell on. I mean to get his clothes off.
A
As quickly as possible. I thought maybe like a pitcher of beer had been dumped on him. Maybe he got into a bar fight. But I mean, hopefully, hopefully he is in. Is in Minneapolis and we have not actually been in touch today. But I know he's going out there for some sort of live. Some sort of live show thing.
C
Yeah, sounds like some. Some tens might be the there. I will say not only did his final did the coda on that story about the Alaska Airlines lounge generosity restore my faith in humanity. It restored my faith in Alaska, which honestly did not come off great in the rest of that story. And I'm a pretty loyal Alaska Airlines, truth be told.
A
I don't think you give credit to Alaska there. I think you give credit to that individual who had to go against Alaska policy.
C
True. But I don't think the important thing about any organization are the people that.
A
You populate it, I suppose. Yes.
C
Well, kudos to that lounge employee.
A
Yes, indeed. All right, Genevieve, I would love to wrap things up there, but it is not time to wrap things up quite yet because we have to wish Some people happy blurs days. There's a right way to rock. Get a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one. You don't hear this as much as we do. You can be having so much fun. Just remember the life is much fun. You can be nothing number one. All right, if you have a birthday wish that you'd like to share or bestow upon yourself, you can email me andrewbtl.net Put Blursday in the subject line. We'll read it on the air. We got one from Kristen who says, hey, happy 47th birthday to me. As an expat from Portland, Oregon to Thunder Bay, Ontario, I am so grateful for the tens and TBTL to always make me feel connected back to my home. Well, happy blursday, Kristen. Hope you're having a good one. Also got this one here from David. Oh, I know David. I met David in the green room before the. What was the last big show we did here in Seattle? Was that the 3,000th episode?
C
I think so. That. Then at the Neptune.
A
Yes. And I met David there. I'm sorry, it must have been 4. 4000. Geez Louise, what am I doing here? By the way, I guess we're supposed to say the name of the number of the episode, right? We're in 4,000, 563. Only about an hour and 15 minutes late with Collector series. But we met David and Andrea. And David says, happy Blurs day to Andrea. She's a dedicated 10, and although I haven't seen her credit card statements, I suspect she's doing more than her part to keep your little radio empire afloat. She listens faithfully to the podcast, while getting ready, in the mornings while doing dishes, and as she wraps up her day. Happy birthday.
C
That's how much content you're putting out.
A
That's right.
C
Pretty much all of her downtime.
A
Exactly. Happy birthday from your two chuckleheads, Polly, Prissy Pants and David. You met Andrea, too? Genevieve. She gave us a. A. What do you call it? A koozie. Remember the beer Koozie?
C
Yes, I do. Oh, Andrea, happy birthday.
A
Happy birthday.
C
Happy blurs day. Oh, I gotta rock.
A
Seth in Lincoln, Nebraska, says, and by the way, I don't hold this against Seth, but Seth is a very hard word for people who struggle with lisps. And I do struggle with a lisp. I don't have a lisp anymore, but I had one.
C
Can you ever. Can you not have a lisp but still struggle with lispy?
A
Words. I'm still a lispaholic. I will always be a lispaholic.
C
You'll always be. You're in remission. You're a dry lispaholic.
A
Seth in Lincoln, Nebraska, says Tara and I want to wish the happiest of birthdays to both of our fives, Ike and Leo. Ike just turned 8 and those are great names. They're really great. I know. Ike just turned 8 and is an amazingly bright and friendly human. Leo is turning 6 and is an energetic and kind human. We love you both so much and are so proud of whom you are becoming. No, wait, it says who you are becoming. I said whom. I think I would have been wrong there. Right? Who you are becoming or whom you're becoming.
C
I don't know when it's. Especially when it's two of them. I don't know whom you are. I don't want to weigh in.
A
You are becoming whom. Happy birthday, kids. Happy 30th Blurs Day, says TJ to my temporarily sad but permanently very beloved partner, Juliet, and her twin sister, my favorite sister in law, Catherine. It's your happy birthday, guys. I know these guys. Juliet and Catherine, longtime friends of the show. They've been listening to the show since they were like, knee high to a grasshopper. Now they're celebrating their 30th birthday together. Happy birthday, kids. Oh, also, Juliet sent in one, too. Juliet says also wants to wish Catherine a happy birthday. Someday we will celebrate our birthday together again. Until then, make sure Joseph takes excellent care of you. At least we're in the same country this year.
C
So Katherine got a double dip.
A
Catherine got a double dip. I didn't want to point that out.
C
I did.
A
And now Juliet's kind of like, all right, yeah, where's mine?
C
Then pause for awkward silence.
A
Catherine, I miss you guys. Hope everything is okay. Jamie in Bloomington, Minnesota. Ah, where the airport is, by the way, John Sklaroff has a real bugaboo about people saying that the airports in St. Paul. It's technically in Bloomington. Jamie says, checking in from the airport district here would like to give a Blurs day shout out to me. Every year I think about writing in and I don't. But this year is different. I moved to Minnesota from Tennessee to be closer to friends and family and also to finally meet some tens in real life. And it boosted my confidence to write in this year shout out to all the Minnesotans and John that I met last week at the meetup. Looking forward to future events and making new 10 friendships. That's really Sweet.
C
That is heartwarming.
A
I did not know that you guys had a meetup last week, but I hope it went well. And happy birthday to Jamie. And finally, Maria says, I want to wish my Minecraft loving, great nephew Henry a happy fifth blurs day. Now, I don't know if Henry's listening right now, but I've been dipping back into that Minecraft world. It really comes in phases for me.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
And I've been doing that since I got back home a couple of weeks ago, or I guess a week ago from Arizona, losing myself in some Minecraft. And I discovered something new last night, which is a little. A little pouch where you can collect a bunch. When you're playing Minecraft and you're walking around as this little individual, you have a certain amount of inventory slots. And one of the challenges of the game is as you go out on these adventures and you're collecting this and that, you're collecting this kind of wood and these kinds of minerals and all these things that can be useful to you down the line, eventually you're gonna run out of inventory space.
C
Yeah. That's when you need a drop ship.
A
So you need to. Exactly. So you need to get back to wherever you have some sort of a home base or something, and you can drop everything off in your chests there. Right, Right. But yesterday I was wandering around some village that I stumbled on. I also found some brown chickens earlier in the game. I didn't know they had brown chickens.
C
So a banner day all around.
A
It was a hell of a night. Genevieve, you were upstairs sleeping. You didn't even know this was happening. I found a little pouch, like, and you can. Apparently, at some point, Minecraft introduced these pouches where you can take a bunch of your inventory and just shove it in there. And then it's not in order or anything, and it's, like, not quickly accessible, but at least it's a way of, like, taking all of your. Like, let's say it's like a pocket.
C
Dimension where you can shove a bunch of things that wouldn't really fit in one pouch.
A
I guess it is a little bit like that. Or a little bit like, you know, the famous nanny.
C
Oh, Mary Poppins.
A
Mary Poppins. Thank you.
C
Yes.
A
That seems like a bad thing to blank on. I should be able to pull Mary Poppins. Anyway, Maria says I want to wish my Minecraft loving nephew Henry a happy fifth blurs day. It seems like yesterday when your mama and I were being silly and making art, now we are. I don't know what that Means. I'll be honest with you. I've read this a thousand times before the show, and I'm not trying to call it.
C
Is this the. Who do you think you are? I am.
A
Who do you think you are? I am. It seems like yesterday when your mom and I were being silly and making art. Now we are. I love you so much.
C
No, no. Now we all are together.
A
Oh, now we collectively are. Now we all are. Oh, thank you, Genevieve. See this? Finally.
C
Yeah.
A
Your decision to join the show today is paid off. Finally. Now we are. I love you so much. I want to wish myself a happy 60th Blurs Day, too. How the hell did I get that old.
C
Before you wrap it up, I've got a couple of blurs days.
A
Okay, can you please submit them to me? Can you email me andrew@tbtl.net and put blurs day the subject?
C
Can you insert typing sound?
A
And then. Okay, who do you got?
C
These are two very special blurs days, and I'm so happy to do one on the actual day of blurs, which is my sister Julia. Oh, happy Blurs day, Julia.
A
Maybe it's an early birthday gift or a day of birthday gift that she gets to hear you on tbtl.
C
It's an on time birthday gift. Unlike the real birthday gift that's coming, the material birthday gift that's coming your way quite late. And then also conveniently for our purposes today, my brother and sister have birthdays that are adjacent to each other. So tomorrow will be my brother Zachary's birthday.
A
Well, happy blurs day to both of you guys. And you guys do listen. Thank you so much. And I don't know for sure, but I am guessing that one of you guys is gonna get a vintage Abingdon art deco vase, USA pottery ceramic, pale blue. And one of you might get a vintage hall pottery floral pattern vase.
C
Don't worry, you're not getting any. I will not, I will not burden you with any of my mid century American potters.
A
Nobody's getting a rare vintage 1960s McCoy small pitcher, turquoise blue stripe.
C
No, I'm excited. Thank you for shoehorning in some more ebay marketing for me though.
A
Everybody's getting the ebay discards now. Happy birthday to everybody in this, especially my family members. Happy birthday, guys. Thanks for bringing that up, Genevieve. Maybe it was kismet that you were on the show today, you know?
C
Yeah.
A
All right. Well, again, for real, thank you for doing this, Genevieve. It's so easy to do this show with you. I mean, that's not. I'm not I'm not saying as opposed to doing with Luke. It's also a pleasure to do with Luke. But I just mean on a day when we're scrambling around and you have to go to a plan B, and the plan B is sitting right across from me and is as wonderful to be around as you. And it sounds like I'm being sarcastic, but I'm not. For once in my goddamn life, I really appreciate it. Thank you for doing this. Yes. And, everybody, Luke will be. I mean, let's assume Luke will be back on Monday. Potentially naked. Who knows? But I'm guessing that he will be joining us again on Monday for more imaginary radio. Until then, do you want to sign off with me here, Genevieve? Okay. Well, until then, everybody, please have a really wonderful weekend. I might not do the newsletter since it's so late and I haven't even begun it yet, but we will see. Genevieve is giving me looks across the table. We didn't do it last week because I was gone. Dares to. We go two weeks without a newsletter?
C
Only you can answer that question.
A
Yes, we'll see. I have a feeling there might be a riot at the gates. Anyway, we'll figure it out. But if you don't see one, don't worry. We will definitely have a newsletter next week. I'll make Luke do it. All right, everybody, have a great weekend, and we'll talk to you on Monday. Until then, please remember, no mountain too.
C
Tall, and good luck to all. Power out.
Hosts: Andrew Walsh (with guest host Genevieve Haas; Luke Burbank via voice memo)
In this Friday edition, Andrew Walsh helms the TBTL ship as Luke Burbank is caught in a tangle of travel woes (and, as you'll hear, a hotel room with absolutely no clothes). Andrew invites his partner Genevieve Haas to co-host, as they commiserate about the trials of pet ownership (and the prospect of dog-sitting), dive deep into Genevieve’s burgeoning eBay pottery side hustle, and savor the many joys and misadventures of everyday life. The episode flows with TBTL’s signature blend of digressive storytelling, self-deprecating humor, and tight-knit community rapport.
The centerpiece of the show: Luke’s epic, winding voicemail about his failed attempt to fly to Minneapolis, culminating in his temporary nudist status at a SeaTac airport Doubletree. Along the way, the hosts ponder the realities of cat and dog hair domination, responsible drunken productivity, and the quirks of eBay business.
Luke’s story (as played and live-commented by the co-hosts) covers:
The tone is loose, affectionate, and gently sardonic, with attempts at levity throughout even the most exasperating travel stories. The hosts’ rapport is relaxed and improvisational; both the content and delivery invite the listener to feel like the third friend on the couch, cat hair and all.
If you missed this episode, you missed a classic TBTL blend of everyday disaster, cozy domestic comedy, and the reaffirming weirdness of letting your friends—and podcast listeners—hear it all. From Luke’s naked Doubletree indignity to Genevieve’s eBay side gig, this is TBTL at its most on-brand: the little podcast that could, with enough pet hair, pottery, and gentle self-mockery for everyone.