Andy Woodward (1:41)

No.

Luke Burbank (1:42)

Yeah.

Andy Woodward (1:42)

Do you have monkeys running around the house?

Luke Burbank (1:45)

No, they have their own house. I don't even know what that means. No one knows what it means, but it's provocative.

David Burbank (1:50)

In 1971, Bill. Bill Grates invented MichaelSoft.

Luke Burbank (1:53)

Wouldn't it be cool if I could remember my dingus password for my email? Well, all right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Friday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Might as well go win the whole thing. My name's Luke Burbank. I am your host.

Andy Woodward (2:15)

I've had a few. A few what?

Luke Burbank (2:17)

A few small beers. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it's actually a little foggy here on this Friday morning. We've got the fog. But otherwise seems like a spectacular day for Seattle sports history to be made. We're making history here with tbtl. Why? Because we're at the highest number of episodes we've ever been at in our life. We're at episode 4573 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. It's going to be a special show today on this Friday. We are going to talk to and interact with a truly intense number and amount of actual family members of mine. We'll talk to my brother David from the basement. Hey, Romano. Who is a very valuable and important insight into the headspace of the Seattle Mariners manager Dan Wilson and what he's been up to in the last 24 hours. He got eyes on them last night. We want to hear about that. Also, my mom is here and just absolutely champing at the bit to get on the show.

Susie Burbank (3:26)

I say, what's up, dog?

Luke Burbank (3:29)

So we'll bring her out later to answer some of your questions. Yesterday, after the show was over, my mom in classic form, casually kind of said, yeah, I saw you doing the show, but I guess it's not really the kind of thing where I should like just kind of like pop in. It's not really a surprise thing, is it? I said, no, it's not. But you could be on the show tomorrow. So we're going to talk to her. We're also going to even hear from my niece who's all the way over in Scotland who wants to weigh in on dog sitting anxiety. So that's the plan for today. But of course none of that can get rolling until we have introduced the the yin to my yang. The longest running cobra of the show may be best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is not here to be told how to enjoy his big weekend plans.

Andy Woodward (4:17)

How dare you tell me how to enjoy my fandom.

Luke Burbank (4:21)

He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

Andy Woodward (4:24)

That. That aged well. How you doing, Luke? How you feeling, my boy?

Luke Burbank (4:27)

That's the edited version.

Andy Woodward (4:29)

I have seen so many people online in my text chain. Just checking in. Just how are we feeling today, Fam is the general vibe. Yep. In Seatt, but it's apparently around the country as well for people who have any interest in what's going on with baseball.

Luke Burbank (4:48)

Yeah, it's def. I mean, it may have. We may have absolutely obliterated our downloads by becoming a solely Seattle Mariners focused podcast for the last two weeks, but we definitely have established a strong brand, which is guys who care too much about this, because I've also had people reaching out left and right, just. And it's. It almost feels. And I believe you referenced this yesterday. It almost feels like a wellness check.

Andy Woodward (5:11)

Yes, exactly.

Luke Burbank (5:12)

It's not just like, how excited are we?

Andy Woodward (5:15)

It's like.

Luke Burbank (5:16)

It's like, are you. Do you. Are you feeling safe right now? Do you feel like you may harm yourself or others? That seems to be the tone of the people checking in on me. Anyway.

Andy Woodward (5:27)

Well, I saw, like, I saw a lot of, you know, blue sky chatter, because I follow mostly just, you know, fans of the Mariners. Not even, like, real, like, not professional commentators or anything like that. Just a lot of fans. And, you know, so there's a lot of threads like, how are we feeling? And you're right. It's all like that. Just like, how are we feeling? And nobody's like, we got this. Like, literally one person was like, said, how am I feeling? Like I could puke on demand. Which reminded me that's something that Jay Buhner could do. Do you remember this? And one time he made the entire outfield. I was like, well, that's sort of on brand. Maybe that's a good sign. Maybe right now we're all bunering.

Luke Burbank (6:01)

I mean, if it brings back the magic of that 95 season, I'll absolutely accept it. Now I'm going to do something that is totally pointless here, which is I'm going to explain what we're talking about. But of course, if you were, like, tuned into the show today the second that it was uploaded to the Internet, but you also didn't realize that tonight is. Our Seattle Mariners are playing against the Detroit Tigers for their very lives. It's whoever wins this game gets to go on, and whoever doesn't has to go home. Me pointing that out is so unuseful because either you're listening to this, like, on Monday or in two weeks from now, and you know, what happened or whatever, it doesn't matter anymore. This is. I'm basically broadcasting to Phyllis Fletcher and John Takamoto right now.

Andy Woodward (6:42)

No, I disagree. Actually, I think that's a really smart move. For real, because people who are even just five days behind you might not know where we are in all of this ridiculous. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

Luke Burbank (6:51)

So that wasn't as pointless.

Andy Woodward (6:52)

No, no, no. Actually, I applaud it. And I'm embarrassed that I didn't think to explain a little bit why we're out of our goddamn lines of an applause, too.

Luke Burbank (6:59)

That was pretty good of me there. I'm proud of. This is where, you know, normally I'd ask you, big weekend plans, but I think we've kind of covered this. We've covered this pretty thoroughly, which is that, I mean, I feel that the general vibe of our weekend is going to be dictated by how things kind of go this evening. And so it's. It's either going to be a wonderful weekend of celebrating and looking forward to Sunday's game and just kind of basking in that rarest of things, which is your sports team doing well, or it's gonna be, as you said, I believe on the show yesterday, putting on headphones and throwing darts at a wall.

Andy Woodward (7:33)

That's right.

Luke Burbank (7:35)

That's right. It's gonna be either a spectacular weekend or a pretty tough weekend.

Andy Woodward (7:42)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (7:43)

There's kind of no in between, I guess, for us.

Andy Woodward (7:45)

Exactly. And again, we could get into my emotions on this day, but I will just say I'm feeling better than I was yesterday. Not, like, optimistic about the game. I don't have any predictions on this game other than it's gonna tear me apart, Lisa. From that. Like, I'm just. I actually even woke up this morning and thought maybe I should go somewhere to watch the game in public. And then I quickly dismissed it. But the fact that I even had the thought means that that's an improvement over yesterday where I was ready to, like, not watch today's game. Just, like, dig a tunnel like those guys in Quebec or wherever.

Luke Burbank (8:16)

They just wanted to sit in a tunnel. Andrew.

Andy Woodward (8:19)

Exactly.

Luke Burbank (8:20)

No, nature is healing. That fact that you even. The fact. I mean, of course it was summarily dismissed.

Andy Woodward (8:25)

Oh, summarily.

Luke Burbank (8:26)

But the fact that it did enter the brain is a really positive sign.

Andy Woodward (8:30)

Exact.

Luke Burbank (8:31)

We do. We've got somebody on standby here who is about as invested in this as we are, if not more. He's. He's fresh off his Peabody Award winning interview with the Rick Riz this morning on Seattle's Morning News, which mom and I watched, by the way, the video of that. David. That's very.

David Burbank (8:49)

Oh, wow, that's fun.

Luke Burbank (8:50)

Yeah.

David Burbank (8:50)

Well, we don't have Rick on video. Unfortunately. We're not.

Luke Burbank (8:53)

But you have a nice headshot of him. It works. Yes, but it's. It's my brother. It's David from the basement. Hey, Davey.

Susie Burbank (8:59)

Hello.

Andy Woodward (9:00)

Hello, David.

David Burbank (9:01)

Okay, game five.

Luke Burbank (9:03)

Yes to all who celebrate. So we got a text last night. I got a text from you, I think, maybe possibly on two different text chains. And it was a sort of a red alert. It was like the bat phone was being activated. The sign was being shown into the sky, and what was going on was you. Because they. Because they overpay people who work in commercial radio and produce the most important day part of the Cairo schedule. You also work when you're not there at a restaurant and a restaurant that Dan Wilson has been known to frequent, including he's the coach of the Mariners, by the way, if folks don't know, but he's played in Seattle for years, and all through those years, it would be very exciting when he would come into this restaurant, Cafe Lago. And he, in fact, came into the restaurant and had dinner last night.

David Burbank (9:52)

Yes, yes. So like you said, he. He has been a. A frequent guest at. At the restaurant, in fact, dating back even into the early 2000s when. When our sisters were working there. I remember actually in. I want to say, like, 2002, 2003, Liz, our eldest sister, or my eldest sister, I should say, bringing home a, like, guest check that had a note from Dan Wilson on it saying, like, sam and Dave, go Mariners.

Andy Woodward (10:24)

Something like that.

David Burbank (10:25)

I had that on my wall for, like, 15 years.

Luke Burbank (10:28)

Here's. Here's. Here's where I'm going to say something that I will, I'm sure, live to regret. My memory is that I got you guys that autograph because here's what I think happened, because. Do you think Liz. Do you think Liz would recognize Dan Wilson?

David Burbank (10:44)

Well, I imagined that there was a certain amount of energy, communication maybe, and Liz and such. I. All I know is I had a check on my wall.

Luke Burbank (10:56)

This is my memory. This is my memory of how that went down. And by the way, the reason I said I'm gonna regret this is because I could be so wrong. I have been so wrong so frequently lately. And this is more of a conversation about how tricky my memory is.

Andy Woodward (11:10)

You know, listeners can't correct you on this, Luke. There's no listener who can fact check.

Luke Burbank (11:16)

Well, I'm gonna check in with Liz, our sister. I have a memory. And by the way, this could a hundred percent be a combination of events that are, in fact. How do I put it? Like, this could be. So I do have a. I have a memory of going in once to Cafe Lago as they were closing down. I might have been picking up, like, my, like, first ex wife or something like I would. You know, there's never been a time in the last 30 years that somebody I. Who's in my life has had. There's never been a time when there isn't somebody who's associated with me who's also associated with Lago. But I was in there, and I remember seeing Dan Wilson, and my memory is that I asked him if he would mind signing something for my brothers. Now, here's what's possible. It was Liz who did that. And I just saw Dan Wilson in there one time. And we've got a bingo sighting, everyone. You guys got your monitors on?

Andy Woodward (12:05)

I was looking at the monitor.

David Burbank (12:06)

I'm so happy to see it in real time.

Luke Burbank (12:08)

That's great. It wouldn't be an episode of TBTL without Andrew's cat jumping off of the shelf onto his back like a Russian gymnast in the 1980s going off of that spring before hitting the pommel horse or whatever.

Andy Woodward (12:26)

Parkour.

Luke Burbank (12:27)

That's more vault style, I guess all that is to say. David. Yes.

David Burbank (12:31)

Yeah. So he was a large figure in my.

Luke Burbank (12:33)

In our. In our lives, and he's always been going to Lago. Now, this is the thing. Never has there been a more important Dan Wilson sighting than last night.

David Burbank (12:44)

Yeah, I mean, I've served him many times over the years, but not since he has become the manager of the team, and certainly not since they have been on the run that they have.

Luke Burbank (12:58)

Been on and not on the eve of the biggest baseball event that he has ever been associated with as a manager. It is for this is all the.

David Burbank (13:06)

Marbles tonight where some interesting insight comes in. Where. Yes, I am not particularly close to the Wilsons, who. Who come in often, but a dear friend of mine who's been a longtime server at the restaurant is actually very close.

Luke Burbank (13:22)

Do they kind of have their preferred server? Is that kind of how it goes?

David Burbank (13:26)

They have a couple servers they really like. I have that idea for Jenny. They're actually burrito artists.

Luke Burbank (13:34)

Yeah. By the way, mom said something truly amazing to me last night. She was watching the Phillies game, and I was kind of flitting around the house, and she goes, do you know about this? Do you know about. She saw a commercial for Chipotle, and she said, and by the way, I'm not trying to shade her on this because I don't think I knew how to say Chipotle for a long time. But she said something like, do you know this Chipotle thing? Or whatever. I go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know about it. And she goes, I got to start eating there. The pictures look great. So forget what you've heard about suffering. Suffering. Some, you know, some Ls with their smaller portions and things like that. They've made a fan in Susie Burbank through their advertising during Major League Baseball.

Andy Woodward (14:12)

It works.

Luke Burbank (14:13)

But so, okay, so. So I'm sorry, David. So there's a server there at the restaurant who tends to be the person who helps them out. And that person was getting, obviously a close eyes on the Wilsons and in particular, Dan Wilson. I want to know, did he seem relaxed? What was he eating? Was he having wine? Did he get the tiramisu? What's going on for this dude who is so critical to our hopes and dreams tonight?

David Burbank (14:34)

Yes. I have pretty much all the information. So they come in, they get seated. It's not in my section, so I'm not serving them. But like I said, a very close friend of mine is serving.

Luke Burbank (14:44)

Yeah.

David Burbank (14:44)

And part of what she finds out is we. We have known that this is one of their favorite restaurants for a long time. This is apparently the restaurant I work at, is their favorite place to go. Specifically Dan's favorite place to go, which is why on the most stressful night of his career so far, they came in to Lago and they stayed the entire evening until long after close, in which I was a little worried. I was like, damn, go get some sleep, please. Yeah, yeah, they. They ordered, you know, some salads. Just some of our kind of encelada mista. Yeah, just a good kind of classic salad, green salad.

Andy Woodward (15:28)

Do you want to walk us through it? Do you want to say, have you guys ever dined here before? And then maybe tell us how you do things there.

Luke Burbank (15:34)

If you could bend over and get real close to the diners and say, we do some yelling here on one knee and whispering your hand on Dan shoulder.

David Burbank (15:42)

No, what. What was really interesting to me was, you know, this, this a restaurant that. It's not like five star restaurant, but it's a pretty, you know, it's good, sweet place in terms of like a neighborhood joint.

Luke Burbank (15:53)

Yeah. It's elevated. It's not.

David Burbank (15:55)

Lots of very good wines. And the bartenders are, you know, kind of well regarded, make very good cocktails. Dan chooses to get two tall boys of Rainier to start off with and continues to drink Rainier. He might have drank like four Rainiers throughout the course of the night.

Luke Burbank (16:14)

This guy does not seem stressed or.

David Burbank (16:17)

I know, stressed. Yeah, well, maybe.

Luke Burbank (16:21)

I don't know.

David Burbank (16:22)

He seemed very relaxed. Again, this is his most relaxing place. And what's funny is he's up in one of the sections that's kind of a little further away from a lot of the other tables. I'm as. I'm kind of making my rounds as you do, clearing tables, taking orders. Things I'm hearing, overhearing conversations at other tables from Mariners fans saying, just talking about the game generally, how nervous they are, how excited they are. None of them have any idea that Dan the man is sitting right.

Luke Burbank (16:52)

Is it the mustache in the next section? Is he totally incognito with his mustache?

David Burbank (16:57)

Well, I think it's that he is just kind of like, for one thing, none of us servers are treating him with, you know, as a star.

Luke Burbank (17:06)

Although I would.

David Burbank (17:07)

Was very nervous around him, certainly. But I was. I was trying my best to not show it, but, you know, it's.

Luke Burbank (17:13)

Were you tempted to say something baseball to him?

David Burbank (17:17)

No, because I thought I was gonna embarrass myself and the restaurant, frankly, and the whole criminal side of the.

Luke Burbank (17:23)

I love the fact that you're also a person who this morning is one of the people on Seattle's morning news doing a very insightful interview with Rick Riz. So that is a different part of your life. But I love that when you. Yes. When you don the apron of Cafe Lago, you assume that you have lost all ability to converse about baseball.

David Burbank (17:40)

Well, it's just like this is the dude. Like, even. Even when I had served him in the past and he was just a former player.

Luke Burbank (17:47)

Yeah.

David Burbank (17:48)

I would still get really nervous around him because. Yeah. He's like a childhood hero of mine.

Luke Burbank (17:53)

Yeah. Whose autograph you got because of the love of your older brother.

David Burbank (17:56)

Yeah, exactly. Or a sister.

Luke Burbank (17:58)

Or older sister. We'll never know.

David Burbank (18:00)

The courts will decide.

Luke Burbank (18:01)

Yes. And I do mean the courts, because this is going to be a sip. It's going to tear this up family apart.

David Burbank (18:06)

But. But it was, you know, it was funny. He. For dinner, he did.

Andy Woodward (18:10)

He.

David Burbank (18:10)

He generally will get steak, to my memory. And he did get a steak. He gets it medium nice, a little rare is what I saw. So if he has some tummy troubles today, then, you know, I know which chef to. To come after.

Luke Burbank (18:24)

Did he have that steak on a short leash? Like two bites of it and then he was warming up another steak in the kitchen.

David Burbank (18:31)

No, no. You know, this is for all the market. Too long.

Luke Burbank (18:34)

Come on. We'll switch the steak out after 30 seconds. Seconds if we need to.

David Burbank (18:38)

Well, so that was my one. The one thing that I. If I had a chance to say to him, it was going to be for the Love of God, if you put in turd Ferguson.

Luke Burbank (18:49)

Oh, God. Oh, man.

David Burbank (18:52)

Be outraged and you will never be welcome at this establishment again.

Luke Burbank (18:56)

I take this to be a hugely positive sign that he is having a normal night with his wife. I love that. I love that Lago is his favorite restaurant. I love that he had a couple of beers. I love that he was. He thought, you know what? It's the night before again, in a certain way, you could argue almost the biggest night of his life because he, you know, he was a really good player. But to manage a team deep into the playoffs is very life changing for the manager as well. And there's this unique, specific pressure on him that. Because he's in charge of the team in a different way than being the catcher on a team or whatever. So, like, I love the fact that this is what he wanted to do. Like, I would be more nervous if he was, like, in a room in his house, like Charlie Day and it's always sunny with all the strings going around the room and he's just losing his mind. Because I think this is instructional for all of us. Or I'll just say for me, at the end of the day, it is a game. There will be a team that wins, a team that loses. There's only so much you can do as the coaches, as the players, as the fans. Like, it kind of is what it is. And I like that. That seems to be the approach he's taking based on his behavior. He could be down at the stadium. You know, he could be in the locker room or in this coach's office with Pete Woodward and the other guys and just be like, obsessively pouring over the numbers last minute. And he's not doing that now, by the way.

Andy Woodward (20:14)

I don't know that he did it first minute, though, either. This is my problem. And I'll tell you what, I came into this conversation without a take. And I got to say, like, when you send that text yesterday and you said, oh, Dan Wilson is here. And by the way, I think you might have fibbed a little bit, because I think you said you were serving Dan Wilson, and now you come over.

Luke Burbank (20:29)

Here, you meant the restaurant was serving Dan Wilson.

Andy Woodward (20:30)

Well, he said, I. It's kind of like, let me tell you what I have.

David Burbank (20:34)

I mean, I was of service to him. Yes, you were a man for other drinks. I took his plates.

Andy Woodward (20:41)

As a wise young man once said, we'll let the courts decide. I know. I promise you, I'm not trying to be hot. Take Andy over here.

Luke Burbank (20:52)

But Have a take already.

Andy Woodward (20:56)

I do think that if there is a ding on Dan Wilson, generally speaking, it is this, it is that he seems to be like, very, like, chill about it. And I don't know, maybe I'll put in Turd Ferguson. Maybe I won't. Like you said, maybe it's not good that there's not tons of strings all over the board. But could we have one string? Could we have like maybe one string and then another one that dangles a little bit? Like sometimes a little sense of urgency would be good. And hearing that Dan basically acts in the dugout the same way he acts at Lago, is now starting to irritate me a little bit. But that's not how I came into this conversation. For what it's worth, I choose to.

Luke Burbank (21:31)

Take a completely different experience from this, which is his relaxation is causing me to have relaxation in my life. And I need that very badly today because, as I told you, Andrew, on Television's Chris Hayes, and this is not a joke, I Woke up at 4:30 and couldn't go back to sleep and was doing box breathing at 4:30 in bed, trying to calm myself down. That's where I'm at with this. And so anything that I can personally hear about or find or interpret, possibly misinterpret to help me calm down and go like, hey, que sera, sera a little bit. Again, this will be an amazing. If the Mariners win tonight, this will be a great story of how Dan Wilson's chill helped heal a city. If we lose by a lot, it will be. It will mean that the dark magic is back. Andrew and two things.

Andy Woodward (22:19)

Yeah. And that he'll look the same throughout the whole thing. His expression will never change. He'll always just sort of look like, okay, baseball's happening.

David Burbank (22:28)

Yes. I will say two things struck me, for one thing as. So like I said, they were literally the last table to leave, which was kind of nice because all of us servers and service staff are kind of sitting around the bar all chatting as we do at the end of each night. And they're the last to leave. And as they're going, they're, you know, talking to the bartender.

Luke Burbank (22:51)

Close the restaurant down. That is a wild.

David Burbank (22:54)

What's funny is the last table before them leaves and you can almost see the. The kind of. The shade or the mask kind of come off. And all of a sudden he can be the Mariners manager in there again. And so then he's.

Luke Burbank (23:11)

He was worried about being them are.

David Burbank (23:13)

Talking about the Mariners game. And as they leave, he says, we're gonna get it done.

Andy Woodward (23:18)

All right.

David Burbank (23:18)

And they walk out.

Luke Burbank (23:19)

Showtime.

Andy Woodward (23:20)

They're gonna get it.

Luke Burbank (23:21)

I. I have a follow up question, Andrew. Are we able to change show titles on a Monday? I feel very strong that we're gonna get it done. Should be today's show title. And also if you're listening on Monday.

Andy Woodward (23:34)

It may have Monday, it may be parentheses. Narrator. They didn't.

Luke Burbank (23:41)

I think Monday it will be. We would have liked one string.

Andy Woodward (23:45)

Yes, exactly.

Luke Burbank (23:47)

This is David, honestly, this is amazing insight. I think there is no, there is no other show. Sports radio, espn, mlb, Chris Mad Dog Russo. The. The doggy has you covered. There is nobody that is getting this kind of intel on the Mariners sort of managerial approach other than tbt.

David Burbank (24:06)

I went undercover at Cafe.

Luke Burbank (24:08)

I love this.

Andy Woodward (24:10)

I would be like, no, but it.

David Burbank (24:11)

Put a bunch of wind in my sails. I'll be totally honest. It made me feel good. Like you said, Luke, that he was very relaxed and yeah. That for him to bid us ado by saying we're going to get it done was like, that's huge.

Andy Woodward (24:23)

That is pretty good.

Luke Burbank (24:25)

That is a level of confidence that again, will either be inspiring or deeply hurtful. But as a person who shows a lot of unearned confidence in my own life, I'm choosing to interpret that as a very hopeful, great thing, you know, that he feels like they're going to get it done, you know.

Andy Woodward (24:43)

David, what time do you get up to go into the radio station every day?

Luke Burbank (24:48)

So I'm in there by 2 in the morning.

David Burbank (24:51)

So I get up at like 1:15 1.

Andy Woodward (24:54)

And you work a night shift, like Luke, you said this at the beginning and I'm sorry, David, I'm not trying to put you on the spot or say anything that would get you in trouble, but I think I'm allowed to say what. What is on my mind. And Luke, you didn't. You undersold it when you explained the importance of David's role in that radio station. Because I never worked in that radio station with you, David, but I know your job very well. I filled in. I've helped people do that job poorly. I did it very poorly, which is.

Luke Burbank (25:23)

Why they had to. I heard the conversation.

David Burbank (25:26)

They still talk about how poorly you did it.

Andy Woodward (25:29)

I'm not saying this because you're my friend. I'm telling you it is one of the hardest jobs in radio. This is the flagship show on the station. It is the morning news. So much of this station's success relies on that shift that you produce as the head producer. Right. And they don't pay you enough that you can't work a night shift. That's the first thing I thought of when you sent that text last night. Not like, what should we tell Dan Wilson? Frankly, like you, I didn't even want to get close to that. I don't want to do anything that would affect the outcome. But I was like, how is David working tonight when I know he was at the radio station at like, midnight this morning to do a morning shift. It is criminal. Too strong of a word.

Luke Burbank (26:12)

You should have heard me in the hot tub with David and his wife on Saturday, Andrew. It was regrettable.

David Burbank (26:21)

You add some names for a few radio hosts.

Luke Burbank (26:23)

I used a certain word for someone that I, I said, I know I don't use this word a lot. And David, Alicia said, yeah, you don't usually. Let's just say the conversation was intense and, and yes, we, we, we, we all look forward to a day when, when, When David's not living on this schedule. I will say, though, again, selfishly, or.

Andy Woodward (26:42)

That you get paid what you're. What the job is worth.

Luke Burbank (26:45)

Well, that's why he would be off of this schedule.

Andy Woodward (26:47)

Well, or they could just pay the person who's on the schedule what the person on the schedule deserves.

Luke Burbank (26:51)

I mean, the lago part of the.

Andy Woodward (26:53)

Oh, the lago. I'm sorry, I thought you meant the waking up at 2am I'm sorry, but.

Luke Burbank (26:56)

I am, selfishly, I am happy that David's. That this hellacious schedule, it persisted long enough that David could get that Dan Wilson weren't going to get it done last night. See, if Cairo paid him enough, he would not have been there. This is real sliding doors. Jingle all the doors. If David was getting paid enough at Cairo, they didn't have to work at Lago. He wouldn't have been there last night to hear Dan Wilson, four tall boys in, say, we're going to get it done.

Andy Woodward (27:20)

No, that's a good point. You should go thank your boss at Cairo later today.

David Burbank (27:23)

Oh, yeah, you bet.

Luke Burbank (27:25)

Yes, yes, yes. All right. Well, David, listen, thank you for sharing this with us. Thank you for this unique insight. And of course, I believe we will be in touch early and often throughout the day, throughout this evening.

David Burbank (27:39)

I know you got to let me go. I, I want to know what you guys, what's your plans? Because I'm, I'm so torn about how to follow this game because I'm in absolute knots about it.

Luke Burbank (27:55)

I will be watching it here. Mom and dad are actually going to an event and I want to be careful with how I talk about this, but it's a get together amongst a bunch of their friends, the people they've been friends with for years. There's somebody in their friend group who's been very ill and is likely not gonna be alive a whole lot longer. And this is kind of a, a celebration of that person's life while they're still here. And it's gonna be a lot of their old friends. And there's nothing that mom wants to do less because it conflicts with the Mariner game. She is like. I go, mom, what time do you have to be at this thing? She goes, well, I'm gonna watch the beginning of the game with you. I said, okay, but what time are you supposed to be at this thing in Vancouver? And she goes, well, it starts at 5:30, but that's just, it's open ended. It's open ended. So I am going to apparently start the game watching it with our mother and our dad. And then at some point I think dad will prevail upon mom that they have to leave, at which point I assume she will be very upset with him and then they will leave. And then I guess she's gonna kind of like quasi watch the rest of it. Well, she doesn't know how to operate. I was trying to coach her up this morning how to at least listen to the game on her phone. She only knows how to look at the MLB app and then she's taking screenshots. I was referring to your screenshots. Like, yeah, I was trying. But anyway, so I will be watching the beginning of the game with them and then I guess the rest of the game by myself, which is a little, a little nutty, but I think probably kind of what I need. I think they'll probably be a lot of pacing and a lot of. I don't think I'll be sitting down very much for the game anyway. And I'll be in close contact with you all by way of, you know, the text chains and stuff. What are you, what are you leaning towards, Dave?

Andy Woodward (29:39)

Yeah, I'm interested in you.

David Burbank (29:41)

I'm like, I'm literally going over it in my head a lot of times because the two games that I have actually watched, one Luke with you and the other I just watched on the TV with, with Alicia and Gemma. Both of those were losses. And the two games that I have only been able to listen to or one of them, I was working the whole night. So I could only follow kind of as, as the game went along on the, on the app. Those were the two that they won.

Luke Burbank (30:12)

So I'm like, well, you better get down to Lago.

David Burbank (30:14)

Unfortunately, I do believe in these superstitions, and also, I don't know if I can mentally handle watching every pitch again.

Luke Burbank (30:24)

Interesting, because. Yeah, so you might actually go with the less is more approach.

David Burbank (30:30)

I was literally looking at show times for one battle after another, hoping that, like, that's.

Luke Burbank (30:36)

That is with the game.

David Burbank (30:38)

I would turn off my phone, go absorb myself in the film, come out, and the game would either be over or in the. A few.

Luke Burbank (30:46)

What a. Small beers.

Andy Woodward (30:48)

That makes me feel.

David Burbank (30:50)

Small beers.

Luke Burbank (30:51)

Maybe have a small beer.

Andy Woodward (30:53)

One beer after another is my plan going into tonight. I don't know, David. That makes me feel better. And again, I know that we. We do want to get to getting your mom on the show here. And I'm sorry if I'm going along, but, like, that makes me feel better because, as you know, I still feel like quasi new to baseball fandom. As somebody who's rooted for the Mariners. I don't really know what it's like to be in this particular position of just like a kind of a huge game five to advance. Like, this should be the best days of my life. But, like, we've been exploring it, as you know, on the show, that it's kind of like, why don't I feel. Why don't I feel more joyful or whatever? And I'm. I'm. I see this. You know, that guy who caught the. The Cal Raleigh 61 home run, and he's in all of his Mariners gear and the 61 shirt and everything. One thing I keep looking at is the still shot of that, and everybody around him are Tigers fans. And when I'm feeling like, really, like a lot of agita about this, which I have been, I go back and I look at that, because what I love about it is this Mariners fan is framed by fans of the opposing team, and they're all joyful. They're all cheering him on. And I'm remembering their faces when. And if we do lose tonight, I'm just gonna be, we lost to this fan base, like, this team, impossible team to lose. And so, yeah, so I'm just trying to, like, kind of. Not that I'm expecting us to lose. It sort of slipped out there. I'm kind of protecting my emotions. But I don't know, like, I. How I felt yesterday after that loss, or I guess two days ago after that big loss, I didn't like how much of an impact it had on My emotions and I didn't get super angry again. I want to make it clear I wasn't like stomping around and like a danger to society, but it really laid me up. Yeah, but for 24 hours. I was still in the dumps when I talked to you yesterday, Luke. And like, sort of like seeing that. I look at you guys as lifelong baseball fans and lifelong Mariners fans and the fact that one of my friends who's a lifelong Mariners fan thinks that maybe the best way to enjoy this game is by not watching it and going to see a three hour movie instead makes me feel slightly less insane in the membrane. Although maybe I shouldn't, maybe I shouldn't use you as my model for that, David. I don't know.

Luke Burbank (33:04)

I don't think I have a healthy.

David Burbank (33:06)

Relationship with, with sports in general. And like, yeah, I don't want to feel like a bad Mariners fan, but at the same time it's like for me, it's also, I don't want it to impact me in a way that is then going to bleed into my.

Luke Burbank (33:22)

You know, family life. And you're just enjoyment. Your weekends are very precious, David, because of your unreal schedule during the week. And anything that reduces your enjoyment of this weekend, that's a theft that I can absolutely not tolerate from your life.

David Burbank (33:40)

There's no way that I'm going to be hanging out just like watching regular TV or doing something with my wife and not thinking constantly about it. So I have not come up with a solution yet.

Luke Burbank (33:54)

Andrew, I really appreciate what you said about those Tigers fans because I also of course saw that, but I didn't. That wasn't the part of it I was clocking. But now as I'm kind of replaying it in my brain, that was like, what a bummer moment for them to have that game really, really, really go out of reach. But then because this guy had the shirt that said the thing that then just happened, they put aside that feeling of sourness to just be like cool for you, man. This is cool. Like that's. We are, you know, at a time where we have a very, very hard time identifying with each other's humanity across like, like important topics. Identifying with each other's humanity across something like baseball is actually kind of, you know, it's kind of an important thing to think about. So I'm, I'm with you on that. I'm also, I'm trying to figure out because here's the problem for me, I've watched these games in varieties of different ways. I Watched one with you, David and Alicia and Gemma at my house. I watched another game that we won at my house. I guess I've watched. I guess basically I've watched three of them from home. And so the two that we won, which made me think that it was working. I mean the Gemma picture was really working until it didn't, by the way. I haven't taken it down. I don't think it was the Gemma pictures fault. I think what happened was the game that we lost. So after we lost the first game, I taped up a picture of Gemma in a Mariner's uniform above the television. I said, this is going to change the mojo. And it did. We won the next two games, then we lost the following game. But I wasn't at my house watching it. That was what changed.

David Burbank (35:20)

The TV has to be on.

Luke Burbank (35:21)

I had never been watching the Mariner game at my house with the photo of Gemma and lost. So we lost. There was the photo but I wasn't at my house watching the game. So I think if I go back to watching it at my house with the photo, I think it brings back the good mojo. I'm also considering adding this to the Mojo shrine, which is a photo of Sammy and David in Mariners jerseys from.

Andy Woodward (35:44)

Back in the day, which is brilliant photo. How old is that photo? I can't really see.

Luke Burbank (35:48)

It's pretty sun damaged because it normally sits on a shelf behind me. It gets blasted with sunlight. But I think I might put this up on the. What I'm going to keep doing is I'm like a crow flying back to their nest. I just keep collecting things that I think might maybe do something and I'm just creating this weird shrine of baubles near my television.

Andy Woodward (36:10)

I love it.

Luke Burbank (36:10)

I love it that I'm hoping that. I'm hoping Will. I mean, whatever it takes. But yeah, I would say to you, David, whatever you need to do as far as self care, go to the movie and you know, you'll know. Then you'll come out and you'll know.

David Burbank (36:24)

Go to the movie with. With Alicia and Gemma. So that's also kind of like what I want to do is just spend time with them.

Luke Burbank (36:30)

Yeah.

David Burbank (36:31)

And not be focused on the game and that's not a right.

Andy Woodward (36:35)

Have you considered nicknaming Gemma big diaper by any chance?

Luke Burbank (36:39)

Oh, we.

David Burbank (36:40)

We call her Big Dumper when. When she has bowel movements because they are big.

Luke Burbank (36:45)

They don't believe it. I don't know legally, if you're allowed to say that, that David. I think that's been very much probably trademarked.

Andy Woodward (36:51)

Right?

Luke Burbank (36:58)

You know what, guys? You know what I think we just did there? We just got it done. I think we just got it done. All right, David.

Andy Woodward (37:05)

Thanks.

Luke Burbank (37:06)

Love you. Go Mariners.

David Burbank (37:07)

Love you guys. Thank you.

Luke Burbank (37:08)

Take care, buddy.

Andy Woodward (37:09)

Take care of yourself.

David Burbank (37:09)

Alrighty. Bye.

Andy Woodward (37:10)

Bye.

Luke Burbank (37:19)

Thank you, baby. All right, let's thank some donors. These folks are keeping TBTL in business with their kind and generous financial support. It's the only way this thing works is due to folks like David Allsop, who's out there in Narrabeen, New South Wales, Australia.

Andy Woodward (37:38)

Wow. Watch out for the spiders.

Luke Burbank (37:40)

You know what we say about Australia?

Andy Woodward (37:44)

Are you asking me?

Luke Burbank (37:45)

Yeah. Do you know what we say about Australia?

Andy Woodward (37:47)

It's a wonderful place, filled with wonderful clothes, colorful people.

Luke Burbank (37:52)

I can't remember exactly.

Andy Woodward (37:54)

And Australians are just as unique, both warm and direct. Warm and direct. Where did I get colorful?

Luke Burbank (38:00)

They're warm and direct. Now, why I paused there, Andrew, was because I was trying to find the drop and I forgot how to spell Australia.

Andy Woodward (38:06)

Oh.

Luke Burbank (38:07)

So I was typing in. I was trying to type in Australia into my little system. And then I could play Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. And then instead, I realized I don't know how to spell Australia anymore. So that's why I paused awkwardly, and.

Andy Woodward (38:20)

That'S why I became an actual quiz. I thought you were literally quizzing me.

Luke Burbank (38:24)

No, I was tap dancing while I tried to remember where the U in Australia goes.

Andy Woodward (38:29)

I see. Do you have any drops on Austria? Because that could also pop up.

Luke Burbank (38:34)

Probably. We also want to thank. So, thanks, David. Also, thanks Gary Maloney in Seattle, Washington.

Andy Woodward (38:40)

Appreciate it. That's a place closer to home. Thank you both.

Luke Burbank (38:44)

Carrie may be also in Knott's today, being a Seattleite, as we all are here. I don't know what Judith Spencer is thinking about in Walton, New York, other than, obviously, her love for tbtl. Because why else would she be donating money to this show? Thanks, Judith.

Andy Woodward (39:00)

Thank you.

Luke Burbank (39:01)

Thanks to Tim Whitehead, who's in Cartersville, Georgia.

Andy Woodward (39:05)

Nice. Probably beautiful.

Luke Burbank (39:07)

I wonder if that. That's. That has to predate Jimmy Carter, right?

Andy Woodward (39:13)

I would.

Luke Burbank (39:13)

Jimmy Carter was from Plains. He was from Plains, Georgia. So Cartersville, I'm guessing that's probably not.

Andy Woodward (39:21)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (39:21)

Just a coincidence.

Andy Woodward (39:22)

They couldn't have named it after Jimmy Carter? That'd be a very new name.

Luke Burbank (39:27)

Yeah, it'd be a little nouveau.

Andy Woodward (39:28)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (39:29)

Tim, thank you so much for the support. We appreciate you. Susan King is in New Prague, Minnesota.

Andy Woodward (39:35)

Now, do you think that's named after the old Prague?

Luke Burbank (39:37)

Mm. New Prague Wait, what is it? Old Prague is the new Prague. Wait, what am I saying? I'm just proud that I remember that. That's how you say it.

Andy Woodward (39:46)

Yes. Not Prague.

Luke Burbank (39:48)

Not Prague. I made that mistake years ago and I'm still getting roasted in the comment section.

Andy Woodward (39:53)

I would have absolutely said Prague there if it were up to me. So thank you.

Luke Burbank (39:56)

It's one of those things they like to do out there in Minnesota, where we just were, actually. And then Ann Plummer is in Poulsbo, Washington, speaking of Scandinavian types. Poulsbo, Washington, not far from where my mom and dad live. Andrew.

Andy Woodward (40:11)

That's right. We stayed in Poulsbo, actually, when we did that.

Luke Burbank (40:13)

Particularly apropos here as we. Welcome to the program my. The one and only Susie Burbank, my actual mother. Hi, Mom. Welcome to tbtl.

Susie Burbank (40:23)

Hi, Luke.

Andy Woodward (40:24)

Thanks. Hey, Susie. Okay.

Susie Burbank (40:26)

Hey, Andrew.

Luke Burbank (40:27)

So you did say to me yesterday after the show, you casually said, like yesterday afternoon, you go, it's not. I saw you doing the show. It's not the kind of thing that you just want me to pop in on or surprise you, is it? Were you kind of asking me if that would have been okay?

Susie Burbank (40:41)

Oh, yeah. Because I was just thinking since I'm here anyway, it would be kind of fun just to pop in and say, hey, folks, you know, But I don't know if that works that way.

Luke Burbank (40:49)

It's a very. I don't know if you can tell, but this is an extremely professional production where we only have one microphone here in my studio, and it's very scheduled down to the millisecond. And we cannot have unplanned intrusions like you wandering in. Mother. That's why we scheduled your appearance for today.

Andy Woodward (41:06)

I will. Can I come to your mom's defense here, though, for a second? Because when we did, when we did the tbtlethon at your house, Susie, I believe we, or maybe it was just me, said, feel free to pop in anytime you hear something on the show that kind of piques your interest. So that was. We set. I set that expectation, expectation up for that situation a long time ago.

Luke Burbank (41:30)

I've always, always resented you for that.

Andy Woodward (41:33)

Understood.

Luke Burbank (41:34)

Add it to the list, mom, without getting too into it, because we've already spent a lot of time with the Mariners topic today, but because you do have your shirt on and because I know it's a big deal to you, how are you feeling about tonight's game?

Susie Burbank (41:47)

Well, I'm actually a little sad about the fills because, well, now I know we're talking M's a little Bit about the M's, but. But I was hoping that the Phils and the M's would go to the World Series, take it to the mat.

Luke Burbank (42:00)

You know, I think that would create more problems because then you'd have to have. The Philly family would be so sad or the Seattle family would be so sad.

Susie Burbank (42:08)

It would be exciting. I think the excitement would take over the sort of. The sadness because it would be such an exciting World Series. But obviously that's not happening. And I'm just hoping we don't go with the Dodgers, you know, I mean, I want us to win, of course. I want us to go to the World Series, of course. We never have been, so. Yeah.

Luke Burbank (42:27)

Yeah.

Susie Burbank (42:27)

I'm just a little nervous about it all.

Luke Burbank (42:29)

Do you think we are going to win? Is that. What is your prediction?

Susie Burbank (42:33)

I think we're going to win. Even though we're playing the pictured end all I know we're playing against the pitcher that's, you know, we beat him before. So. Yeah, we've won games where he's pitched, what, three times, Luke. So.

Luke Burbank (42:46)

Yeah, this season. Yeah.

Susie Burbank (42:47)

In the season and one in the post.

Luke Burbank (42:49)

And what you haven't heard, Mama, is that because we just talked to David when he was working at Lago last night. Dan Wilson was there. And as Dan Wilson was leaving after consuming what we count to be four Rainier tall boys, he said to the assembled Lago employees, we're gonna get it done.

Susie Burbank (43:05)

Oh, you gotta love it. You gotta love Dan. You know, I was really excited when he became the manager, so. Cause I loved him as, you know, catcher years ago. So, anyway, yeah, Go M's.

Andy Woodward (43:15)

Go M's. And I do wanna say I almost said this earlier. Cause I know that we have some very hardcore Phillies fans in the audience as well. I wasn't watching the game last night, but I heard about it and I was sort of scoreboard watching. And that was almost the epitome of a. Of a heartbreaking way to end the postseason. I feel so bad for people who are on the edge of their seats rooting for the Phillies. And of course, I. I was rooting for them anyway from afar. But, yeah, if you. If you are a Phillies fan, hearing me whine about my anxiety this morning after that loss last night, that's tough, man. That's tough.

Luke Burbank (43:46)

Well, the. The thing is, Andrew, that I, you know, you'd mentioned that one of our listeners who's out in pa, our friend Maggie in sw, had checked in to say, you know, I'm having such a hard time about how the Phillies are doing that. It's making it hard for me to listen to TBTL because we're, like, in joyous mode when the Mariners are winning. And literally last night, as I was watching this game and I thought the Phillies were going to actually tie the Dodgers and get to play one game back in Philadelphia, I literally was thinking of listener Maggie, and I was like, oh, I can't wait to, like, send her a message and be like, how cool is this? And then that game ends in a. You want to talk about dark magic? Like, just the. Without, you know, getting too basebally with it. It's just one of those things where, as. Let me put it this way, as long as that's not how the Mariners lose. Yeah, that will help me emotionally. That's the kind of thing where you really. That's like Russell Wilson throwing that interception, you know, in the super bowl kind of level of stuff where you just, like, you just don't know. There's not. There's not a guidebook for how you process those emotions.

Andy Woodward (44:44)

You know, that's. That's what I've been hoping we don't have to face. Like, I know eventually we're probably going to lose. I. My prediction is not that the Mariners are going to win the World Series this year. Hey, they're in a position that they could. But I never feel that amount of optimism towards the Mariners that would be awesome if they did it. But what I've just been hoping for, and maybe this is that soft bigotry of lowered expectations, but I just don't want us to be eliminated on some sort of error or sort of, like you said the other day, force majeure or something. That just feels like it was one moment that everything fell apart and it wasn't a good baseball moment.

Luke Burbank (45:21)

Right. Like a ball hits a speaker.

Andy Woodward (45:24)

Yeah.

Luke Burbank (45:24)

Right. Like something that just feels like, you know, somehow pre. Preordained to. To have gone the wrong way first. I don't know. I. I choose to embrace we're gonna get it done as both my Mariners philosophy and my lifestyle now going. My new personality is, we're gonna get it done, guy. We're gonna get this done, Mom. I threw out to the listeners because they're always fascinated with you. I said, would you like to ask my mom some questions? She's gonna be on the show tomorrow, and people have sent some questions in. Tom said, here are some questions he would like to ask you. Mom. 1. Is there a moment when you realized that Luke was going to thrive as an entertainer?

Andy Woodward (46:00)

And when is that gonna happen?

Luke Burbank (46:07)

I deserve that.

Susie Burbank (46:08)

Actually. Actually, I knew there was something unusual about Luke when he was holding conversations at two years old. And I'm not exaggerating. Two years old is when I married Walter, and Luke was two years old, just. And he was literally holding conversations even before that with adults. And that was very, like, entertaining to say the least.

Andy Woodward (46:34)

Was he talking about. Was he getting into politics? Like, what.

Susie Burbank (46:39)

I think he might have been talking a little bit about sports and a lot about, like, what was going on in, you know, around him and just asking these, like, really unusual adult kind of questions, or at least big kid questions. And he's 2 years old, you know, so it was. It was really. It was pretty astounding. And I didn't know what to compare to. Cause he was the first of the seven, so I was. Yeah.

Luke Burbank (47:02)

And you obviously figured out later that, yes, he is very superior to the other kids. But you just couldn't know that at the time because I was the only kid then.

Susie Burbank (47:12)

Okay. They're all. I have no favorites.

Luke Burbank (47:16)

All right, here's the next question from Tom. This is a. I don't even know if you would know who this was. I don't know who technically falls into this category, but what was your opinion of Luke's first girlfriend?

Susie Burbank (47:29)

Well, I didn't really know his girlfriends up until Jeanette.

Luke Burbank (47:33)

Yes.

Susie Burbank (47:34)

And gosh, I love Jeanette. She was like everything I'd ever want in a future daughter in law. And yet it was. Well, it was really not meant to be, obviously. But I thought the world of her. I really did, because I thought she was quite a accomplisher, overcomer.

Luke Burbank (47:54)

She.

Susie Burbank (47:54)

I don't know what her background was, but she really was, you know, taking the world to the mat, you know, just really doing well.

Luke Burbank (48:03)

Yeah. And she was a very super smart, really liked you. Very, very wonderful person, and remains a wonderful person. And by the way, is kind of relevant to this Mariner stuff because what is this, Luke?

Andy Woodward (48:15)

Can you, like, kind of sort of tell us what.

Luke Burbank (48:17)

Yeah, this would have your life. Addie has been born. So this is. Yeah, this is a gal who I dated when I was a senior in high school and into college. And what I was. So what happened was we changed churches. We had gone to this church called Gospel Outreach Christian Fellowship. And then that sort of went by the wayside. And we ended up at this other church called Living Way Foursquare. And I remember, like, I wasn't really going to the church because I was already, like, pretty old. I was a senior. I Could drive my own car. And I feel my memory of it is my mom said there are some really cute girls at this church. And I was like, I'm listening. I thought, who isn't in the market for a 17 year old future father? Because that was the thing. I go to this church, right? But nobody at this church, they don't know me and nobody there knows that I have gotten somebody pregnant and that person has not had the baby yet. So I'm like this kid that shows up at the youth group and like, you know, making friends with everyone. But I've got a secret. And so Adelaide is born and it's like two days later we have this church camp out that's been, you know, on the schedule forever. So I go to the church camp out and I was the like one of the song leader guys. You know, I would play my little guitar and we'd sing the songs. And I remember I just was like, I have to, somehow I have to let all these people know what's going on because it's going to be really weird if I just start bringing a baby to these events. And so literally like in between the songs I just said, well, I need to kind of let you all know something. I have, I just became a father two days ago and, and all of the young women at this event gathered around this fire immediately looked at this girl Jeanette because we, everyone knew we were kind of sweet on each other. Like I don't think we'd ever really talked about it but. Or actually no, I think I had actually. I might have told her at this point. She might have been the one person I had told. But it was one of those very high schooly moments where like I'm telling everyone that I just became a father two days ago. And all of her girlfriends are basically like, did you know this?

Andy Woodward (50:18)

Oh, I misunderstood. Oh, right, of course. Yeah, of course.

Susie Burbank (50:21)

Jeanette. Yeah, Jeanette wouldn't have been sitting there in full form two days later after baby. That's why I was curious myself.

Luke Burbank (50:28)

Oh no, no, they didn't think she had the baby. They just wanted to know if she knew that this, this guy that she was kind of interested in and he was very interested in her. If she was aware, if this was news to her, was she finding out that this guy is a father of a two day old in, in the moment. Anyway, all that is to say absolutely lovely, human. And the way it relates to the Mariners is when Addie was the way that I can remember the last time that the Mariners or At least a very memorable time that the Mariners went to the American League Championship series. That was 95. And that was. So I would have been a freshman in college by this time and Addie would have been like, one. And I remember watching the series, the Mariners versus the Yankees, at Jeanette's apartment with a bunch of people and Addie. I had Addie at the time, and she was. She was like, kind of like, you know, probably just bored, getting a little fussy. And I remember it was like the eighth or ninth inning, it was super critical, and I was like, I didn't know what to do. Also, by the way, I'm 17, right? Maybe I'm 18 by this point. And Jenette was just like, I got it. And she takes Addie and, like, just gets in the car with her and just driving her around the block so I can watch the Mariners come back and beat the Yankees in the divisional series to get to the championship series. So literally, it's one of the. I'm terrible with the dates, but I can always remember that that was 95, because remember that Addie was 1. And I remember that Jeanette was nice enough to distract her while I was trying to watch my beloved Mariners and probably Dan Wilson, by the way, play.

Susie Burbank (51:57)

Yeah, she's ace person. Yeah. So that was it.

Andy Woodward (52:00)

Nice.

Luke Burbank (52:00)

We have good thoughts about Jeanette. Shout out to Jeanette. Now, here's the final question from Tom. Soup or salad?

Susie Burbank (52:06)

Oh, wow. I guess soup. I love soup. Especially on, like a winter day. There ain't nothing like soup.

Luke Burbank (52:15)

Yeah, that might be a new drop.

Andy Woodward (52:18)

That may be a new show title.

Luke Burbank (52:20)

Now, Mom, I'm with you. I definitely inherited this from you. I have on the show many times said there need to be more soup based restaurants for my liking. Like, it's there. I go to certain restaurants, you know, if they have soup as one of their things. Oh, by the way, what was your take on Chipotle yesterday? What you were telling me about?

Susie Burbank (52:38)

Well, you know how they have commercials for different restaurants and they have really good graphics.

Luke Burbank (52:42)

Oh, graphics, yeah.

Susie Burbank (52:44)

And I was like, wow, that looks like I want to go to Chipotle or whatever.

Andy Woodward (52:48)

However you say it, it's good, man. It's like favorite chips.

Luke Burbank (52:52)

Yeah, I think you'll like it, Mom. But here's the thing. Like, there aren't enough restaurants that just do, like, soup is their main thing, or they have a lot of soups. And as somebody who doesn't eat a ton of meat, what I've noticed, I always ask if I'm at A restaurant. What is your soup? And it's always. It's almost always, like, ham stuffed with lobster stuffed with sausage. It's like the soup always has a lot of meat in it, which is kind of. Usually means I'm not going to end up eating it. I would love there to be more restaurants that have, like, 10 different kinds of soups that you can have.

Andy Woodward (53:21)

I would.

Luke Burbank (53:21)

I would eat soup, like, five days a week if I could.

Susie Burbank (53:24)

I am so with you, Luke, because there's something about, like, I even like pho because I love broth. You know, there's something about a good broth that just. It's just a feel good inside, you know? Yeah.

Andy Woodward (53:36)

Speaking of feel good inside, I'm gonna ask you the most personal question I've ever asked you, Susie. But I've asked this to a lot of my friends, and some of us bond over this. Others have no idea what we're talking about. But when you eat pho, do you need to do it on a schedule? Do you have a countdown clock from the moment you eat that pho to the moment you need to rush to a bathroom? Because, like, I have this whole thing. I love pho. It's one of my favorite foods. But it cannot be the first thing I do before running a bunch of errands. It needs to be the last thing I do before I come home.

Susie Burbank (54:08)

I gotcha. But you know what? I haven't had pho enough to have that experience. I probably have had pho because, you know, we don't live in Seattle anymore, so that's part of it.

Andy Woodward (54:17)

Yeah. It's not. It's ubiquitous here.

Susie Burbank (54:19)

There is a pho place, but I haven't had it probably in, I don't know, eight years and maybe only about two or three times. But I'm saying I love that warm feeling of eating something like that.

Luke Burbank (54:29)

So you've had pho and you've had diarrhea, but you can't connect those dots. You can't say that that definitively it was from the pho, and that's fair.

Susie Burbank (54:40)

Definitely. Definitely not.

Luke Burbank (54:41)

Okay, here's a question from Lauren. Mom, she says, I'm a lifelong Philadelphian feeling infuriated this morning, obviously. Sorry, Lauren. Sending you love and light right now. I wanted to say that I always find Susie's appearances on the show a little comforting because she still has a bit of that Philly accent after what I believe is 50 plus years on the West Coast. Even though I live here, I still find hearing a Philly accent in an unexpected Place to be such a fun surprise. So my question for her and you is whether she knows she still has this accent and whether it gets stronger when she's around her family or she comes to visit Philly. Truth be told, I always thought I had avoided the accent, but my husband, who grew up elsewhere, says he can hear it with a few words.

Susie Burbank (55:30)

Oh, absolutely. I still have the accent, and you know what? I embrace it. I don't try to cover it up or. And when I go back to Philly, if I go back with my sister Mary Lou, who lives in the Seattle area, she has changed her. She's refined her.

Luke Burbank (55:47)

I want to point out that my mother for years has thought that her sister is trying to be a little uppity by losing her Philly accent. Is this true, Mother?

Susie Burbank (55:56)

Yes. And not just me. My sister Kath, who's, you know, still in Philly, been there all her life, and my brother Chuck, they're like, what's with your talking? You know, you're all uppity there now that you live in Seattle.

Luke Burbank (56:06)

It's a riot, isn't it, that you think she says the word moon in an uppity way.

Susie Burbank (56:11)

She says my family instead of family, and, you know, the. And, you know, she runs errands instead of errands. You know, these kind of things that we. Classic words, you know, that Philly says. And she's kind of corrected them. But then again, she has lived in Russia for many years, so maybe that has something to do with. With it. But I still love her, you know?

Luke Burbank (56:35)

Now, mom, do you feel like when you're back in Philly, does your accent kick back in? Do you ever find yourself saying, are you gonna go down the shore?

Susie Burbank (56:42)

Actually, I've never said use, because I'm kind of a stickler on. On proper pronunciation, so I haven't used. Used guys, like, a lot of. A lot of Philly folks do. But. But, yeah, I think it might get a little stronger because I'm in conversation, but I don't. I don't recognize it because. But if I hear myself, like, even if I hear myself on my message or something, I'm like, oh, I'm not nuts about it, to be honest, because I think it is strong enough that it sort of. I mean, I love it in some ways, but in other ways, it's a little bit. I don't know.

Luke Burbank (57:18)

It's very. I'll tell you, mom, it's very in style right now, the Delaware county accent, because it's on hbo. They have that whole show Mare of East Town. And then they got this other one task, which I had you and dad and I watched the other night. I thought you would maybe like it just because everyone talks like you talk, but you kind of were not that into that show. Why not?

Susie Burbank (57:38)

I think it was a little forced. I mean, Philly people talk fast. You know that, so. But it was almost like, too fast to even follow. And then it was the accent, you know, I know they're trying to really make it Philly, like. And I kind of take that back. It's not like I don't like my accent. I do, but it just sounds. I'm kind of. I'm very particular about certain things in my life right now, being 71, and one of them is kind of like, oh, do I really sound like that? You know what I mean?

Luke Burbank (58:06)

Well, mom, the people on the show love how you sound, so that's a good thing. And I would say at this point, at 71, I would just. I would. I would lean into it. Whatever you've been doing, I would say keep doing it. At this point, it's a little. Probably a little late to, like, basically develop a completely new accent.

Susie Burbank (58:22)

Okay.

Andy Woodward (58:22)

And not to be Pollyanna ish about it, but also, like, I think the older I get, the more I appreciate accents, especially, like, you know, I'm from the Midwest, and I wouldn't say I have an accent, but you can hear it in certain words. And in a world where everything is sort of flattening out a little bit, and it's nice to have these little regionalisms, whatever they are, the little unique things about where you come from. In fact, I'm going to be going to. It's looking like I'm going to be going back to Ohio for about a week in early November. And, Luke, you can tell me when I get back if you think some of my Midwestern accent stuff is stronger when I get back. Yeah, because I growing up, I was like, well, we're in the Midwest. We don't have an accent. We talk normal, and we can hear the accent from everybody else around us. But now I go back home to the Cleveland area, and I hear the very long vowels. And sometimes the people I talk to, it sounds like they're almost like. And these are people I've known my entire life. And you're like, oh, I never noticed that you talk like somebody from the movie Fargo.

Susie Burbank (59:20)

Okay.

Luke Burbank (59:21)

Yeah. I feel like, you know, the Pacific Northwest prides itself on every, you know, being sort of accentless, supposedly. Although there are the things And I think maybe I was even interviewed on KUOW about this many years ago. They needed to find someone who had pretty much always been in the Pacific Northwest. And I guess for us, it's the worst word. Bagel.

Andy Woodward (59:40)

Bagel.

Luke Burbank (59:40)

And the. And milk. We. We say bagel and milk. We kind of say milk a little bit. And we say bagel, which. And not in the way that everybody else does, of course. That's a famous drop, if I can remember how to spell bagel. That's even a. We have a little.

Andy Woodward (59:56)

Yes.

Luke Burbank (59:57)

Let's see here. We've even got this from the show. There we go. So, yeah, so I. But otherwise, Andrew, would you say the Pacific Northwesterners. We are fairly accentless. As somebody who was transplanted to the Pacific Northwest.

Andy Woodward (60:12)

Well, it's really funny because I remember being very high and mighty about the fact that the Midwest was accentless when I lived there. But I will say that coming out to. So I've moved various places. I would say LA doesn't have an accent, you know, even more than.

Luke Burbank (60:27)

Yeah. Which is why, by the way, that sketch that SNL did, you know, the Californians that people really loved, and you know me, it's like, it's got like Bill Hader, Kristen Wiig, and Fred Armisen in it, who. I absolutely love all of them so much. But I. I lived in LA for a fair amount of time. I literally never, like. I don't really understand what the joke is there. I hope that doesn't sound defensive. I did not know anybody who talked that way, but maybe I just didn't hang out in Malibu enough.

Susie Burbank (60:54)

Maybe there's transplants from. From to LA from other places.

Andy Woodward (60:57)

I do think that that is one of the reasons why it might seem accentless is because it is such a mecca for people from all over the country with. With a dream of stardom and being on the silver screen. But yeah, I would say that the Pacific Northwest is relatively accentless, but I would say LA probably of all because I lived in New England as well. Right. And New England definitely has an accent and. And definitely like kind of mannerisms and that type of thing.

Luke Burbank (61:22)

Mom, do you want to help us get through it? Like an email or a voicemail here?

Susie Burbank (61:26)

Yeah, sure.

Luke Burbank (61:26)

Okay, hang on.

Andy Woodward (61:27)

Here I go once again with the email.

Luke Burbank (61:29)

Every week. I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man.

Andy Woodward (61:33)

It's not from a female.

Susie Burbank (61:35)

All right.

Luke Burbank (61:36)

Actually, Andrew, if I can, I know that the emails and V mails are sort of your domain.

Andy Woodward (61:39)

No. Good, because I was scrambling here.

Luke Burbank (61:41)

I've Got a message here from my actual niece, Maddie.

Andy Woodward (61:46)

Yeah, right.

Luke Burbank (61:47)

Checking in from all the way over there in Scotland. She's doing an exchange program over there in Edinburgh and she's apparently listening to tbtl. Maybe just a little home cooking or something. And the other day on the show we were talking, Andrew was talking about they're going to be doing some dog sitting. And he was kind of a little, maybe a little apprehensive about how it was going to go. Wasn't quite sure. And one of the things is now there's going to be a puppy involved, which hadn't been the plan previously. And Andrew, you were being very self critical. Like moments after, after you expressed your hesitation on this, then you were sort of feeling maybe self conscious that you had expressed anxiety around this topic. Here's what Matty said. Hey, Uncle Luke, I was just listening to Monday's episode where Andrew was talking about dog sitting. Like Andrew, as a fellow cat person with anxiety, who has never owned a dog and in high school was the designated neighborhood dog sitter, his stress is 100% validated, especially concerning the fact that it's a puppet. Caring for your own puppy versus being responsible for someone else's puppy despite having no experience raising one is pretty different. While cats can be independent, puppies need full attention all the time, which feels crazy when you're not used to that. Marion and I had to actually take shifts the last time we had to watch a puppy together so we could each also have a little bit of a break from her constant neediness. I never knew that Maddie was so deeply anti puppy. Also, they're so loud, which is so obnoxious. When all you're used to is the sound of meows and you don't really know the family's the family's neighbors, you start to get insecure about them judging you, not keeping the dog quieter. Also, owners always lie about how potty trained the dogs are. A cat will always go to the bathroom in a litter box, but if you're not on top of letting the puppy out when it needs to, it will crap everywhere. This episode gave me flashbacks to a huge carpet diarrhea pile I had to clean up when I was dog sitting a couple of years ago.

Andy Woodward (63:40)

Anyway, too much pho.

Luke Burbank (63:45)

Andrew has mine and probably Marion's too. Full empathy.

Andy Woodward (63:50)

Thank you.

Luke Burbank (63:50)

Because both of us know exactly the concern he's facing. Sorry for the long. And she uses the S word here. Mother. I don't like this. She's in college now. She's allowed to drink over There in Scotland. You know, even though she's not 21, she's allowed to put ass in text messages. Sorry for the long ass paragraphs, but this episode reminded me of some crazy and stressful experiences I've had, and I honestly think Andrew isn't being frank and grumpy enough over the situation.

Andy Woodward (64:16)

Well, thank you. I feel very validated. Like I sort of mentioned to you, Luke, I think maybe yesterday, is that like, you know, there's only so much I can sort of say about this situation on the show without feeling like I'm sort of invading the privacy of the folks who we're doing this for about. But yeah, definitely signing up to watch one dog and then suddenly just realizing. Not realizing, but being told that actually, no, now it's a dog and a puppy and one of them is going to mostly be in their cage. And it's just sort of like, I'm not living in their house. I'm not house sitting. And we can't bring the dogs over here to live because we have a cat. It's just a very complicated situation. I am. I am looking forward to parts of it, though, and curious to see how it all plays out.

Luke Burbank (64:55)

I'm looking forward to hearing about it. The safety of the droning studio. Mom, a final question and an easy one here as we roll into the week. Do you still secretly hate dogs?

Susie Burbank (65:05)

I have never secretly hated dogs.

Luke Burbank (65:07)

Oh, so it's not a secret.

Susie Burbank (65:09)

I have never hated dogs, period. I do not hate dogs. I had a stepmom who said she was allergic to dogs, so we never had a dog from eight years old on, you know, But I know that my biological mom loved dogs. And I think I remember. I have a memory of a dog who actually got hit by a car, you know, on the Roosevelt Boulevard. Cause we're Busselton Ave. One of the busy streets when I was probably four or five, but I just. I haven't been. I. I don't warm up to a dog that immediately jumps on you or sniffs your private area.

Luke Burbank (65:44)

I mean, come on, somebody had the fu. All right, that seems like a good place to end this. Mama, thanks for being on the show. We love you.

Andy Woodward (65:56)

Thank you.

Susie Burbank (65:57)

Love you guys. Thank you.

Luke Burbank (65:59)

Andrew. Sir, thank you for your service this week. Appreciate it. Thanks to everybody for. I feel like all we're gonna do here is say the magic incantation that ends TBTL and then immediately resume the conversation offline about the Mariners. Like, I feel like I'm gonna be texting you and everybody else incessantly for the next six hours. Six to ten hours. So thanks, everybody, for hanging out with us. This brings us to the end of our broadcast week. We will be back here on Monday with more imaginary radio for you. Will be. Well, we'll know a lot more about our emotional state and health on Monday, so we'll see you then. In the meantime, have a great weekend. Take care of yourselves. Go Mariners. And please remember, no mountain too tall.

Andy Woodward (66:38)

And good luck to all.

Luke Burbank (66:45)

I should not have brought up baseball. I understand. My mistake. My mistake.

Andy Woodward (66:50)

You got to know your crowd.

Luke Burbank (66:52)

Power out.