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We can't bust heads like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to tell them stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they call Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel. And in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now, where were we? Oh, yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. TBTL.
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I got recognized on the street today. Guy had already met me and then forgotten. He met me and then recognized me from TV and then remembered me again. What a space. Like, what is that about? I don't actually think that that space is real. I think people just keep saying that it's real and saying that like, that there's stuff out there, but it's like we're never gonna know for real. You can't go there. What I love to think about this is a puzzle. And each of every one of us is an integral piece that puts a big picture. Once we're all together, it puts a big picture. The show lets us to see the. The big picture. Yeah. Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of TBT all the show that just might be too beautiful to live. That's a tuna, bro. My name's Luke Burbank. I am your host.
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I'm in it to win it.
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Coming to you from the shadow of the Smithsonian Institution here in Washington, District of Columbia, where it's a beautiful, beautiful November day. Oh, ma pa.
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C
It's just beautiful.
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And we've arrived, everyone, at episode 4000, 599 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. We got Russell Wilson in the news, people. Mr. Unlimited, cancel your plans. We all need to sit down and take a moment to consider what Russell Wilson is up to, because it's surprising even by Russell Wilson's standards. We're gonna talk about that. A lot of other stuff with this guy. Longest running cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I've got an update on him, by the way. I do have an update on his physical status.
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He is still a beast.
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He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
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C
Good morning. I am hitting send on A text. And now you have my undivided attention. I wanted to explain to my dad what Hemingway cats are because they are visiting the Hemingway.
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B
Are they going to Key West?
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C
Yeah, they're in Key west. But don't worry, there's somebody staying at their house. Nobody robbed my parents. They have a lot of security and they have a. They have a military arm of the military is actually house sitting for them. So nobody get any ideas. But yeah, they're in Key West.
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They've actually requested the National Guard be deployed to their house in an unusual move.
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Anyway, yeah, they're in Key West.
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And so are Hemingway cats. Just cats that like to hang out at the Hemingway house.
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They're expat cats. They like to go to cafes in Europe and talk about how famously said.
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Bankruptcy starts very slowly and then all at once.
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C
Is that a Hemingway quote?
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I think they're known for that.
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C
Is that a Hemingway quote?
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I always attribute it to Hemingway. I'm not sure. But I literally just said this to Becca the other day. It's one of my. And the listeners of the show will know. This is one of my most oft quoted things, which is bankruptcy starts slowly and then happens all at once. I think was maybe what Hemingway said.
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I definitely know that quote. I think I know it through you or whatever. I definitely know it's something you say a lot. I think it can be applied to a lot of things, like relationships, which is also a sad thing to think about. And I don't want to think about that on a Monday. But I think the thing that makes them Hemingway cats, and I think there are still a lot of them. I've never been there. This is my understanding. I do think there's a lot of them still around his home that he lived in in Key West. But specifically, I think they have extra toes on their front paws. I think that's known as a.
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Sure. Like Maine coon cats have that as well.
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C
Do they Poly. Polydactyl. Polydactyl, yes. They're polycats, basically. And so I just wanted.
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Did he like those especially?
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C
I don't know that he knows. What. He just texted me and said he's gonna go see the Hemingway.
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No, I meant Hemingway.
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C
Oh, I think he met my dad. We gotta be specific here.
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What's Bob's policy on Polybact?
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Pokemon? I think he's about to learn. I don't know. I don't know. I've exhausted my. I've exhaust.
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I'm trying to. On my phone so I don't take down Our Internet connection. I'm trying to search Hemingway, bankruptcy quote.
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C
Oh, I thought you were looking at Hemingway, cat. Okay.
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I can tell you this though.
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Cats.
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Yes, I am. It's not Hemingway, but it feels kind of spiritually connected. I watched Citizen Kane. Oh, yesterday on the flight here.
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C
Oh, I could use another, I could another. Use another rewatch on that. What'd you think? Did it make it. Did you make you feel good about the press?
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It was shockingly prescient.
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C
Yeah. Right.
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I mean, it's really crazy because it's basically Rupert Murdoch. I mean, I think it was about William Randolph Hearst probably. Right.
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C
Was that who it was?
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But I mean, it, it's like I was just like, oh, you, you could have made this like yesterday about, about Rupert Murdoch. You know, it's. It's crazy. I guess as long as we've been around, or at least since we've had the written word, there's been some asshole white guy.
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C
Yeah. Trying to run the media and start wars, basically.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Essentially. The reason I watched Citizen Kane on the flight was because they did not tell us until we were already in the air that the WI fi was not going to work on this cross country flight, which I know, I know that's not really on the crew, but I do feel like the airline needs to let you know days, if not weeks in advance of that. I need to first of all, emotionally prepare myself for no WI fi. And also I need to download a million things and sometimes you'll get an update on your phone in the like Alaska Air app that says, hey, by the way, there's going to be no WI fi on this flight. They did not do that for this flight. We just got up in the air and I kept trying to, you know, join it. And then at some point the flight attendant said, oh, by the way, the WI fi doesn't work on this flight. Just casually, like that wasn't impacting our lives in an intense way.
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C
Was. And you said cross country. So this is west coast all the way to D.C. direct flight.
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Portland, Oregon to District of Columbia. Yeah.
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C
That is a long flight. That's at least five hours, right?
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More, pretty much. And now, now again, to their credit, you could watch all of the stuff. Yeah, I don't understand, by the way, how that works. There's no WI fi, but they can still stream movies and television to my laptop device on the plane.
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C
Yeah, I don't know either because it's kind of all through the same tube. Right. But I don't know, it would seem.
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B
So but yeah, so they had. And it was. It's very. I have such a weird. First of all, I always use the WI fi when it's available, so it's rare that I'm just like using their kind of their whatever you would call it, like, you know, downloaded movies or something. But even then, I mean, I mean. Oh, I also watched her. That tells you how long the flight was. I watched Citizen Kane and her.
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C
I finally watched her for the first time. I know that you. You watched it back when it came out, but I finally watched it for the first time on an airplane. Speaking of press a year ago. Yeah, right.
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I meant to write a blue ski, which I couldn't because there was no wifi, which is. I've never done Ayahuasca, but I've watched her on an airplane, so I think I get it. Like, it was emo. Did you have a strong emotional reaction to that movie when you were watching it on the airplane?
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C
I remember her.
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Not Citizen Kane.
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C
Yeah, I remember liking it. I don't remember having a specifically strong reaction other than just like, literally. I remember when it came out, I was living in la, everybody said this movie would push a lot of your buttons, you would like it. And it just took me 10 years to watch it. That's all I remember. And I remember enjoying it on the plane.
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I'm just amazed at how much they got it right. Like, it is such a roll of the dice when you do a sort of a movie about technology and the future and what it's all going to look like. And like they killed it. I mean, from the sort of earbud to the. And this is before, I think, you know, we were talking about AI. Really, Even though this is. You know what I mean? Like, they're calling him operating systems, but like, even his phone. Like, I want his phone. And they made this movie 10 years ago. Like, I want the technology from the movie her that was made 10 years ago.
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You know what my reaction is to you saying this is. You talk about this came out 10 years ago. And it was so prescient, I think that I watched it about a year ago. And what has happened in the past year makes it even more prescient, if that makes sense. Like, I recognize some modern society in there, but we weren't having as many conversations. And we are having a lot of conversations about humans entering romantic style relationships with AI or at least like personal relationships with AI And I, obviously that was, you know, that's been a conversation in sci fi for a while. And it's been a conversation in real life for a little bit, but I feel like just in the past year since I've seen that old movie, it's like really ramped up.
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Yeah. I think one of the things that they really nail about it is that we will eventually our phones will not even be like everything will be AI and our phone will just be this thing that sits in our pocket that kind of like the way that we use our phone right now is it's a big screen and I look at a lot of things on it. But essentially the way that this, the way that the movie her kind of describes it is he's not even looking at his phone most of the time. I mean, he's using it as a camera for his AI girlfriend to see things. But basically like his phone is not like it's all AI and then he just. The phone is just kind of the thing that brings it to his ears and his eyes. But like when he's playing that video game that's just like projected into his apartment, I don't remember this, but he's like, it's some character that's trying to walk up a snowy hill and then he encounters this kid that's a. This like round kid thing that's a huge asshole.
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Yeah, right. I did forget about that saying F.
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You to him all the time.
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C
Yeah, right.
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But he, but he like one of the things too that's so great about the movie is he's like empathizing with this character in this video game because he's like, he's just a kid on this planet and no one's taking care of him. It's why he's so angry. It's just such a good. And also I really, I need to figure out who did the style, the wardrobe on that movie because I just want my look to be Joaquin Phoenix in the movie.
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Her. Yeah, yeah. Very, very nerdy hipster. Right?
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Nerdy hipster. Kind of sort of high waisted pants. And also by the way, the design touch that I didn't notice the first time I watched the movie, but I'm in love with it is so because his phone, he needs the camera on his phone to be sort of peeking out of his breast pocket so that Scarlett Johansson can see everything. But I always, I remember thinking, well, would the pocket fit that? No, it wouldn't. He has a large like clothes pin or like a diaper pin. Rather he has a diaper pin that he's looped through his pocket so that it closes his pocket off just Enough so that the phone can sit where it needs to sit. And all of his shirts have this diaper pin through the pocket so that Scarlett Johansson can see everything. And I just love it as a touch.
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C
Oh, I don't think I noticed that. I also might have been watching. Well, I guess you watched it on a small screen too, if you're on a plane. But I didn't.
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B
Was on my laptop and I was nervous. You had this experience. It sounds like the other day when you were watching the chair company.
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C
Oh, my God. We never thought.
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B
It was a quite vivid scene at the end of the fifth episode. Like, dude, there was an almost sex scene in this movie where the Scarlett Johansson character hires a surrogate.
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C
Oh, yeah, yeah, right, yeah.
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Like a physical surrogate for him. And I was watching and I was like, please, please, please do not take your clothes off. Please do not take your clothes off. And then I thought of you on the plane with a very explicit Santa Claus related scene.
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No, no. Wasn't it. It was Dickens, right? It was Dickens.
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Oh, Dickens. Appropriately, Ebony's your Scrooge.
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Appropriately enough, yeah, it was. I don't want to give anything away, but the.
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I don't think you're ruining. I don't think you're spoiling anything.
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Well, I don't know, though. It was a moment that it sounds like everybody's talking about from that show. So I will just say this. The very last shot of one episode of the show, the chair company that we're talking about is extremely graphic. And you see it for maybe, what, two seconds, five seconds tops or something, and it's literally the last shot of an episode and you're just watching the show and there's, you know, it's. You're watching with headphones on. It's totally absurd. There's tons of weird stuff. But you don't have to worry about people looking over your shoulder or, you know, just being across the aisle and glancing at your phone, which is a natural thing to do. I was watching the guy in front of me, like, you know, kind of catty corner to me, watching his Transformers movie, which I don't understand why you'd rewatch that, but whatever. Everybody has their own weaknesses. But anyway, I. I see this last scene, and I don't know if you'd be surprised by my reaction. I was surprised by my reaction because what I did was I just immediately. I was watching on my phone, so it's pretty small.
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Oh, you had your phone.
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I just put my hand up over the phone and laughed my Now, I think, let's see. This was the flight where I had an entire row to myself. I was still in the aisle, though. I was in the aisle.
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Nobody could see. Maybe behind you? Well, the thing is, there's nobody super close, actually.
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The truth is, if I had been at the window seat and nobody in my aisle, nobody would have seen it at all unless somebody was. Happened to be looking between the chairs. Right. When you are on the aisle, your media is a little exposed, though. Anybody with a wandering eye could just be looking. But it happened so quickly. But it was also so unbelievably funny to me. And it was funny to me that it was happening to me. Like, the whole thing was so funny to me that I don't think I usually have this reaction. Usually I would be really nervous or scared. I'd start crying. I'd call a flight attendant over to help me. But I just put my hand over it, and I just think I started belly laughing so hard in that moment because everything was so absurd, and suddenly my life was absurd because of it.
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B
Well, speaking of watching your neighbor's media, the person. The guy next to me on the flight was also watching a Joaquin Phoenix. He was watching, like, Joker 2. Oh, even Jokerier.
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But say it for that move.
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You know, it was a. It was a weird experience because all I've heard is that that movie is just an absolute disaster. So I was watching it, but of course, I'm not hearing the sound. I'm just kind of looking at it, and I'm trying to assess, without audio, if it's really bad, which is. It's impossible. Like, I can't tell that the movie is bad or good without being able to actually hear the dialogue. But at some point, my computer was paused and his phone was paused, and we both had Joaquin Phoenix on the screens in very different sort of, you know, performances. And I. I, like, kind of tapped him on the shoulder. I said, we got a lot of Joaquin Phoenix happening on the screen. Oh, you said that. And he. Yeah. And he didn't seem as, like, intrigued by that as I expected. I thought that was a weird coincidence that we both had Joaquin Phoenix on screen. And again, very different. Joaquin Phoenix is.
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C
I could see somebody being a little bit unnerved by that. He was across the aisle from you, but in the same row?
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No, he was next to me.
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Oh, he's right next to you. Oh, that seems even more normal, honestly. But, yeah, I guess people are protective of their space on planes and probably just came out of the blue and just Was.
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It did a little bit, but like, you know, this is a five hour flight again, enough time to watch both Citizen Kane and her. And I sort of tapped him on the shoulder and I said, hey, we've got a lot of Joaquin Phoenix going on in this road. He goes, oh, yeah. And then not another word for five hours. Which again, I'm not looking to make a friend, but he doesn't know that. Yeah, that's what he was, I guess, worried about. But like, dude, you should be so lucky. There's a lot of people that would like to be my friend and I'm just trying to chat with you about Joaquin Phoenix and you're too cool for that.
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He was wearing a Joaquin Phoenix hat and I asked him to name 10 movies. Oh, by the way, speaking of movies, I saw Begonia this weekend too. That's still on your list, I assume.
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B
Yes. And in fact, Becca and I were considering going and seeing it on Saturday, but we end up doing other stuff. But how was it?
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I liked it. You know, it's Yorgos Lanthimos. So like, he Lanthimos, I want to say he writes really dark stuff. And so, you know, I think the last time I saw one of his movies, Kinds of Kindness, I was talking about how much I absolutely loved it, but also felt like there's a lot of people in our listening audience who would not love it. So I would say kind of the same thing about this. I really liked it. And if you're going to really like the favorite, I want to rewatch the favorite. That's the least sort of weird. Weird, right? He did the lobster, which was another weird.
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Yeah. So if I like. If I like the favorite, that means I'm probably like entry level Yorgos versus.
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The high weirdness Yorgos, didn't you see Kinds of Kindness? Did you not see that?
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Nope.
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Oh, see, I thought you saw that. This is. Yeah, I don't remember the favorite as well. I remember loving the favorite because it's of course got Emma Stone because she's in all of his movies, but it also has Olivia Colman in it, I think. Olivia Colman. Olivia Colman, yeah. I'm deeply in love with her, as a lot of people are. I watched her in that British mystery show, whatever that one was called, and fell in love and she's just so good. And so both of them pop off the screen really well. I don't remember the plot. I remember it was weird for a period piece, but I didn't put it in when I was watching that movie. I Wasn't thinking. This is a Yorgos film where now when I go see his movies, I'm very aware that this is going to be a bit of a trip, right? And so I would say that this movie is pretty dark, it's pretty upsetting at times and there are some things that happen that I that I can't kind of talk about because it truly would ruin the movie. But my big takeaway is there a.
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Scene with Charles Dickens.
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C
There he is, the very last scene, the very, very last shot. There's a little bit of that kind of shock, a little bit in kinds of kindness. Not to the same degree. But one thing that hit me and I hesitate to say this because I guess I'm only talking to people who've seen all of these same things, but there is clearly something going on in the Zeitgeist, unsurprisingly during this time of, of our history. But like I am just seeing so many through lines between like literally Peacemaker, which we were talking about the other show, Begonia Pluribus, which I'm caught up on now. I mean there's kind of sci fi elements to these things, but also like the human aspect of it and like a lot of just kind of like are aliens, are aliens coming to Earth because we can't trust ourselves with it. I kind of like Vibes Superman I would put in there too because that again like it kind of explores him as it both as an alien and as an other. And it's just sort of interesting. I feel like there are other things too. What's the other one? Weapons a little bit too. Not alien, but I just feel like there's a darkness. There is a darkness. At least the things I'm watching.
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I guess that was another thing. On a Saturday night, Becca and I were scrolling through the, you know, the various apps and such and I was like, do you want to watch Weapons? She was like, what is that? I was like, you haven't heard of weapons? You haven't seen kids running around with their arms stiffly as a reference to that movie? We did not end up watching that. What did we watch? I don't know. We started something and I just fell fast asleep. This is my life now, Andrew. It was 8:45 and I was absolutely out like a light because like I'm that guy now. I'm that kind of dad energy and not even dad granddad energy where if it's like after about 8pm Also it's getting dark so early now, I think my internal clock is really screwed up. Because it's like I start getting tired at about 5:30 because it just feels like, well, it's nighttime. It's been night for a while. And so by like 8:45, we started streaming something and then I was just like, oh, you know what it was? We started watching. What is it, like House of Dynamite or something?
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C
Oh, I don't know.
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B
The, like. It's the new Katherine Bigelow film she made, the Hurt Locker.
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C
Oh, okay. Yeah.
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And it's basically about a nuclear. It's. It's essentially the, like the Situation Room where there's a nuclear. Speaking of Dark. Where there's an. There's basically like the. The people who are in charge of, like, making sure that we don't have a nuclear war get feedback that says that there's been a nuclear event launched and they have to decide if we are going to respond in kind. But also, it could be a false alarm. So these people have to decide if they're going to end the world. Literally. It's like Mutually Assured destruction. And do they. Are they going to end the world because of this information they're getting? Or are they going to maybe think that it's a false positive and not end the world? And, like, what's that feel like?
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C
See, that sounds like it's somehow in the vein of what I've been talking about as well. What? I was just blabbing about it. Just like, by the way, so this sounds really interesting. And am I right to Bigelow do Zero Dark Thirty too? Because I know that name.
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B
But that sounds definitely like a thing that could have happened.
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C
Yeah. Anyway, that's what I traded.
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B
I mean, I think it's in her kind of her sort of genre, because.
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C
I feel like my instinct when you say that name is, oh, I like her. But then I'm like, do I know anything by her?
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B
Well, I thought the Hurt Locker was really good.
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C
Yeah, that got good reviews. I never. But anyway, how's a Dynamite is a movie, not a series.
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B
I think it's a movie again. I only watched 10 minutes of it. By the way, this is also how Grandpa Lee I am. It's a movie about the end of the world. And it did not hold my attention enough to not fall asleep. Like, it couldn't be more like a gripping subject matter. And yet I was like, but I could also be asleep right now. That's where I went. Speaking of, I don't get political Andrew, but I had such a kind of, I don't know, confusing and maybe positive conversation with my Lyft driver from the airport last night who was originally from Afghanistan, has only lived here with his family for, I think, like, two years or something, three years, and totally voted for Donald Trump. And I was like, again, you know, I don't. I try not to get too political with the Lyft or Uber drivers just because. Why? But we were talking about something, and somehow Trump came up, and I just assumed, like, well, this person is here from somewhere else and has to be a little unnerved by all the ICE stuff and everything. And, like, he said, yeah, well, I voted for Trump because I just think he's not like a normal politician. I thought, dude, how have you only been here two years and you're already that guy? Like, we just need someone to shake it up. Really, dude? Welcome to the country, by the way. You're here two years and you're already ready for someone to shake it up.
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Yeah.
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But I was like, okay. Well, I said, well, you know, I go, obviously, your, you know, legal paperwork is in order and as is your family's, but can you imagine if they came and arrested you because of how you looked? And he goes, yeah, that really does concern me. And I was like, yeah, because even if you can prove that you are allowed to be here, it could be a month later. He goes, yeah, I don't really like that at all. And by the end of the conversation, I think I had talked him out of being a Trump supporter.
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C
Really?
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B
Yeah.
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C
So he's not gonna vote for him next time?
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B
Well, we'll, you know, we'll see if, you know, if given the chance. But it was. It was very interesting because, you know, you and I talk about this off air mostly, but, like, this kind of feeling of, like, it's. So I'm at the point where, generally speaking, if I find out that somebody is, you know, MAGA or like, a Trump supporter, I just don't even really engage on that topic because I just don't think there's any amount of evidence I can present that's going to talk that person out of that position. And this was the rare thing where I really did feel like between Reagan National Airport and the JW Marriott, I think I actually moved the needle for this guy, which was kind of, again, I'm not gonna, you know, I'm gonna just retire. I'm gonna quit while I'm ahead on that. I'm not trying to talk everybody, you know, over to my side of things, but it was a rare experience where, as I sort of presented also, he maybe just Wanted a tip. But, like, as I was presenting what I thought was a decent case in a non kind of, you know, hopefully in a non lecturing, non threatening kind of way, it really did feel like he was like, yeah, that's actually a pretty good point. Or, yeah, I don't like that. Or I felt like again, heaven forbid, there's this guy's on the ballot again. But I did feel like this. This guy that I was talking to really was rethinking his Donald Trump support. And I wonder how common that actually is for. For folks in the world.
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C
I do think that, you know, well, actually, I don't want to finish that sentence. I'm going to move on to something else and ask you a question. How did you get on the topic?
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That I cannot tell you. I think maybe Begonia. He had just seen it.
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C
He had just seen it. It sounds like he's a big Begonia. It was weird. Gorgos.
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B
No, I don't remember.
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C
Last scene of that episode of the Chair Company. What a shocker. Yeah.
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B
I don't remember how it came up. Oh, you know, what part of it was. My hotel is like, almost across the street from the White House. And he was saying, oh, yeah, you're staying across from the White House? And I said something like, yeah, I don't, you know, something to the effect of like, that doesn't, you know, make me feel great right now or something. So somehow we got on the topic of Trump.
- [26:19]
C
Do you always stay in the same hotel? Cause I remember you stayed there on January 6th.
- [26:23]
B
Mm. Well, I was slightly outside of town where they had fewer security cameras.
- [26:28]
C
Oh, okay. Sorry. I thought you stayed in that hotel.
- [26:29]
B
Me and the guy from Bob's Burgers. I saw that guy on. Because he was also on Mr. Show.
- [26:37]
C
That's how the Mr. Show.
- [26:39]
B
And then the Mr. Show reboot.
- [26:40]
C
Oh, yeah. Was he on the Bob and Dave. I think it was called With Bob and Dave.
- [26:47]
B
A clip of With Bob and Dave came up on my TikTok feed the other day. And then there was that guy, Jay something.
- [26:53]
C
Yeah. I'm blanking on his last name, but it is Jay. Yeah. And like, he was a regular face on.
- [27:00]
B
He was on the Sarah Silverman Show. Like, he was amazing. He was amazing.
- [27:04]
C
Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
- [27:05]
B
As far as, like, a certain kind of level of comedy that you and I really appreciate.
- [27:08]
C
Yeah.
- [27:09]
B
And then just like, wtf?
- [27:12]
C
Yeah.
- [27:12]
B
Why the face?
- [27:13]
C
Jay Johnston is his name. I had to look it up. But of course, now that I say that, I know that. Yeah, I'M looking to see what. I mean, he was in so many things that, that we loved. I mean, little cameos here and there, but also, like, he was a regular on the Sarah Silverman Show. He played a cop. Right. And. Yeah, and various things along, I think.
- [27:30]
B
Was he like Sarah Silverman's sister's boyfriend or something?
- [27:32]
C
I think that rings a bell. Yeah, that sounds about right. It's been long time.
- [27:36]
B
I don't know why. I mean, I don't know why it is that I think, well, if you get good comedy, then you would also. I mean, there is a very short list of people who have terrible politics who get good comedy, right?
- [27:48]
C
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [27:49]
B
I think, like, I can't think of very many other than Tim Allen.
- [27:52]
C
Yeah, well, Tim Allen is a big one.
- [27:54]
B
You got Tim Allen, you got Jay Johnson.
- [27:56]
C
Yeah. Rick Schroeder.
- [27:57]
B
I believe you got Ricky from Silver Spoons.
- [28:01]
C
Yeah.
- [28:01]
B
But like, you know what I mean? Like, it's weird that it makes me actually think, oh, maybe he wasn't funny. He just was adjacent to funny people who put him in things. I don't know.
- [28:11]
C
There is. What I'm about to say here is a change of subject a little bit, but I just. Well, unfortunately, it doesn't get us out of unstable territory. But right before the show, I saw something on the show sheet that I was. A story that I was unfamiliar with that maybe we'll get to in a little bit. And the link that you included only had one small mention of what the headline was, so I started Googling.
- [28:35]
B
I made that headline, by the way.
- [28:37]
C
Yeah, yeah, I know. But then there. But there are headlines about it. And I kind of had a feeling. So I'm like, well, there's a link within the story. And then that one was like, behind a paywall, I couldn't read it. So I start Googling around for this story, which we'll get to in a second. I'm not trying to be withholding. It's just not relevant to this. But the point is, what I click on first, which I wouldn't usually do, was instead of a. Instead of an article about it, I saw a quote unquote news story from Fox News about it. Right. And so the first thing I do, and this is not my usual movie, is I just see, well, what. What do they have to say about this story? So I'm watching and I don't even really know. My comment is not here about their take on this particular story. It was a setup by a man behind a news desk, you know, like, whatever. And now to talk more about it. And then he tosses to via satellite the boys from the Something or other podcast. I don't know what the podcast was. I can tell you it wasn't tbt. But in this kind of news style.
- [29:33]
B
If I booked a Fox News appearance and didn't invite you, that'd be fine. Would you be mad or relieved?
- [29:39]
C
I would. There are times when people actually do invite us, believe it or not, to do things on their shows and I always say you can just do it yourself. And you're always making sure that I have a seat at the table. So I appreciate that. I don't feel like I need that.
- [29:53]
B
We're going on Gutfeld live tonight.
- [29:57]
C
Hey, I booked that. Don't you take credit for that booking? Anyway, all I want to say it was just Luke. I'm not doing a good job of explaining it, but I think that you would understand. I had this just like. So he says. More on this we turn to the boys from the Blank podcast and it cuts to four guys who. Look, they're all just total bros. They're all white, obviously in their probably 20s or 30s.
- [30:21]
B
I promise you one of them has a hat on that has. Yes, I think it was backwards, like, or la. Upside down.
- [30:27]
C
Oh, I didn't. Maybe I only saw it for a second. But there was just something about this context of being. Now we turn to the guys from the whatever podcast and listen. I do stuff like that, you know, like I'm gonna be on KUOW later this week. I. They're not turning to me because I have political insight on anything. I'm gonna try to make fart jokes. Right. And like, and then so I kind of understand, like, I don't want to totally debase what sometimes I am asked to do on a local level, but there was just something about these three white, just brosophy bros sitting around this like, kind of like a really cheap ass looking like somewhat curved sports center style panel table or something. But like in their own square. And they all look like super like kind of like giggly to be there. I just hit stop right away and there was just something about. I just wasn't ready for him to turn to a panel of podcast bros and some. I keep thinking there's nothing left to die inside of me. But something new died inside of me and I don't know why.
- [31:28]
B
That's weirdly a positive. Yeah, there's like, there's more in there. Yeah, that can die.
- [31:33]
C
I have more toes they can cut off when they're tortured kind of.
- [31:36]
B
I mean, I'm not 100% joking that like, at least that means you are still alive. Here's the thing. Let me kill off the last of it. That's. I bet you it's not even like a high level bro podcast. It's not even the Nelk boys. Like there are like there are bro podcasts that are bussin with the boys and the Nelk. The Nelk boys and you know, full send and whatever like that Fox News couldn't even get on because it's not even worth their time. Like the insane thing is, I bet you that was like a fourth level bro podcast that, that I've never even heard of. That's. That's who Fox News was able to get on that because the Nelk boys were too busy printing money. Okay, I.
- [32:17]
C
There are probably. I think that I can say we here, but I'll put this mostly on me. Have a pretty big blind spot when it comes to some podcasters that are huge. I mean, you are more plugged in. You know what? I'll back off of that. You're more plugged in because of TikTok and stuff. But there are tons of podcasts that just millions of people know about that I've literally never heard of before. So as I say this, you might have heard of this and maybe a bunch of our listeners have, but it's four guys from a podcast called Ruthless. I don't know if you've heard of that. And they're. I'm. I queued up this video again, they.
- [32:51]
B
Are ruthless and it almost depicted as Andrew Schultz1.
- [32:56]
C
Maybe it is. I don't know here. And, But I'll tell you this, while.
- [32:59]
B
You guy with a kind of a Nazi haircut, you look it up.
- [33:02]
C
I can't tell because three out of the four of them are wearing baseball caps. One of them has it on backwards, the other two forward. The guy who's not wearing a baseball cap is wearing sunglasses inside.
- [33:14]
B
Okay, no, I've never heard of these people. A Republican podcast hosted by Josh Holmes, Michael Duncan. And there's somebody on the podcast who has a pseudonym and their pseudonym is Comfortably Smug, which is actually kind of a good name.
- [33:31]
C
Oh yeah, I heard him say he introduced somebody as Comfortably Smug. I didn't know. I thought that was the name of another podcast. That's the name of the guy.
- [33:38]
B
Oh God. Josh Holmes, former chief of staff to Mitch McConnell, Michael Duncan, a partner at conservative PR firm Cavalry and Comfortably Smug, a lawyer who uses a pseudonym.
- [33:51]
C
Well, this is interesting. While I would not agree with these guys, I depicted them as just idiots like me who go on to make fart jokes. But these guys actually have political experience.
- [34:00]
B
They're actually working to tear America.
- [34:02]
C
Right. Exactly.
- [34:03]
B
If possible. Yeah, they're, I guess hence the name ruthless, but. But, yeah, like, it's crazy that I immediately knew it wasn't the Nelk boys, because I just keep bringing them up and it's like these. And like, there are these bro podcasts where these guys are making millions and millions and millions of dollars and are too busy to go on Fox News, which for some reason is extra sad to me.
- [34:25]
C
Meet the GOP insiders rebranding as the bad boys of conservative talk. Is that what you were just quoting from, by the way, as you listed?
- [34:31]
B
That's. Are you reading my Wikipedia page?
- [34:34]
C
I am, I am. Thank you, baby.
- [34:47]
B
All right, let's thank the donors. We don't have that Fox News money, Andrew. We have the donations of the tens of listeners, and that is how we can do this for our job. This is 100% listener supported podcasting, and we want to thank Mike Duncan, who's in Columbia, South Carolina.
- [35:03]
C
Hey, thank you, Mike. Luke, maybe you could swing by. How far away are you from South Carolina right now?
- [35:09]
B
Not that far. I always forget that D.C. is, I think, below the Mason Dixon line. Right. It's actually further south than I usually think.
- [35:18]
C
Yeah, it is pretty far south, but you could head down there. I feel like you could have.
- [35:22]
B
Yeah, no, I'm saying. I'm saying I'm closer to South Carolina than. Than I usually. I think of D.C. and New York as being kind of in the same area, but really D.C. is pretty far south. It's very close to Columbia, South Carolina.
- [35:34]
C
Oh, I see. You were saying that that D.C. is further south than you think. Yes, yes.
- [35:39]
B
I never think of D.C. as the South.
- [35:41]
C
Right.
- [35:42]
B
But Virginia is the south.
- [35:43]
C
Yeah, it is.
- [35:45]
B
Culturally, you know, it's not the South. Petaluma, California, where Eric Jaeger is.
- [35:51]
C
Oh, Eric.
- [35:52]
B
We know Eric.
- [35:53]
C
Yeah, thanks as always, Eric. Eric drew the Eric animate.
- [35:57]
B
Oops. The dirty monster.
- [35:58]
C
Exactly. And. And has done other stuff for us. Always great to see Eric, who supports the show in so many ways.
- [36:05]
B
Appreciate you. Also, Abby Vandiver is out there in Amsterdam in the Nord Holland. Is that a district of Amsterdam?
- [36:16]
C
That I don't know. What I do know is Abby is our friend who was on Spotless one time. Abby restores paintings. Like, clean, literally clean paintings. Yes. Abby is the best.
- [36:30]
B
Is Nord Holland just North Holland?
- [36:33]
C
You gotta look that up? I don't know.
- [36:35]
B
What's the Nord?
- [36:37]
C
Hey, dude. What's the Nord? What's the Nord? Yeah, that's Nor. I guess that's just North Holland, but I guess spelled in Dutch.
- [36:47]
B
That's right. Thank you, Abby. Thanks also to Chris Walton, who's in Arlington, Massachusetts. Nord, Massachusetts.
- [36:53]
C
Oh, I thought we were. I thought, I thought with Arlington, we're going to get real close to Dan dc. But it's the wrong Arlington. It's the right Arlington for Chris, though.
- [37:01]
B
It exactly. It's exactly the right Arlington for Chris. Then Karen Jenkins is in Kenmore, Washington.
- [37:07]
C
That's close to home here.
- [37:08]
B
Home of the. What was it? The Savage Moose.
- [37:11]
C
The Savage Moose and Kenmore Lanes, of.
- [37:13]
B
Course, where you and. I think it was you and Camaro Kev, although I think it was mostly you. By the way, I saw somebody the other day who was such a dead ringer for Camaro Kev.
- [37:23]
C
Oh, really?
- [37:25]
B
Wearing the exact kind of shirt Kamaru Kev wears. Exactly. Kamaru Kev's build and a button down. And I was with Becca and I was like, that guy looks so much like Kamaru Kev. She's like, oh my God, he does. She goes. Now if you told Kamaru Kev, if you took a picture of the guy and said this guy looks like you, do you think he would agree? And I said, I don't know because I think none of us can really know ourselves. Yeah, I think that it's weird when you see somebody who looks exactly like somebody and then you tell that person and they're like, I don't see it. I think it's a question of self conception.
- [37:53]
C
It can be. Although 19 you said you saw somebody who looked just like me and then you sent me a photo and it was just. I mean, I'm not even saying he was better looking than me, but he was just like. He just was styled like me. He didn't look like me at all. He was just styled like me.
- [38:09]
B
Well, I'll never forgive you for the fact that you don't think that the other guy, whose name is Andrew Walsh, who.
- [38:16]
C
Oh, I think that was him. Yeah, Yeah, I think that was him. That. That's the whole.
- [38:19]
B
I think that guy is not only has your name, but I think physically resembles you.
- [38:24]
C
I'm so glad that you. Because I swear the listeners were. I can't find the photo. Now, of course, if I Google Andrew.
- [38:28]
B
That got like a teacher, didn't we have somebody who. That was their teacher or something?
- [38:33]
C
Somebody reached out to me On Instagram. Somebody quite a bit younger than me, I think maybe in his early 20s, maybe maybe even a 19 year old or something. And he reached out to me on Instagram a few years ago and said, are you the Andrew Walsh who was my teacher at whatever high school or whatever?
- [38:48]
B
Because that teacher made a really good impression on that student.
- [38:50]
C
That's right. And he was just. Oh, he was just a beloved teacher. And I was like, no, not me, but you know, me in the loop. I'd be interested or something. And then I did. I think we talked about that in the show. Somehow we brought them together somehow. Right. I don't know how, because we had them both on our show for a reunion and of course we cleared it just to make sure that everybody was comfortable with that. But I can't remember how did our listeners find him or something the other.
- [39:16]
B
I forget that part of it. But what I can't forget is that this guy was a dead ringer for you.
- [39:19]
C
He was not, though. You're the only person who thinks that.
- [39:22]
B
Has Genevieve seen a picture of you?
- [39:24]
C
Yes. And everybody. I mean, I just remember this and I believe the listeners were on my side mostly just saying that, like, he wears shirts like me and he has glasses like me. He has a beard and had a beard. But like, those are.
- [39:35]
B
He had a beard. He wears shirts like you.
- [39:37]
C
That's cosplaying as me. And I do. I accept that he's obsessed with me, obviously, and wants to. But he didn't. If you were to. Well, never mind. But we don't look alike. If you styled him differently, I don't think you would have had the same thought. If you shaved his beard and he wasn't wearing glasses, you wouldn't say, hey, that man looks like Andrew Walsh. He was just styled like me.
- [39:58]
B
Well, whatever he looks like, he looks like Andrew Walsh because his name is Andrew Walsh.
- [40:02]
C
But then he changed his name. Remember. Remember when he said, oh, I'm changing my name, he was taking a married name or something, or something like that. That's what. That's the other thing. So, like, the dream of the. Andrew Walsh also died on our show, which happens almost every day.
- [40:18]
B
And yet Shannon Teton of Federe Washington is supporting it all. Even though. Even though every day leads inexorably towards the death, the further death of Andrew Walsh's nationwide, Shannon is also helping pay for it. Thank you so much to our donors. We could not do this without you.
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C
Hello and welcome to Top Story.
- [40:44]
B
All right, Andrew, we are probably going to have time to do one of the two top stories now. We sort of. I promoted Russell Wilson. I mentioned Russell Wilson, but then you mentioned.
- [40:54]
C
But I didn't mention it. I never said what the other story was.
- [40:57]
B
So we'll come. Maybe we'll do that one tomorrow.
- [40:59]
C
Yeah, that sounds good to me.
- [41:00]
B
Okay, great. So that brings us to Russell Wilson on Cameo, which I found out about from a listener email. And I'm gonna remember the name of the person. It's Ryan. Listener Ryan. Actually, Ryan sent an email that had a lot going on in it, including the fact that like. Like we were talking about hiring, like, a housekeeper or someone to kind of clean up the house the other day. And I was saying how my house is pretty tidy when you walk in. Except the reason that I've hired this person occasionally is because she does, like, a deep clean. She'll, like, clean the sinks and the oven and stuff like that. And Ryan was saying that his mother kept the cleanest house that anyone has ever been anywhere. He said something like, there are surgical theaters that are less clean than his mom's house. And yet she hired a housekeeper. And that the only way that you knew that the housekeeper had been there was because they had consumed the cookies and brownies that his mother would cook. What a gig. Cookies and brownies for the housekeepers. And then Ryan and his dad were not allowed to touch the cookies and brownies, and the housekeeper would eat them. And that would be how you knew the housekeeper. Not because there was any change in the level of cleanliness of the home. It was because the treats had been consumed.
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C
And it was weird, I think, that I read the same email. I guess the housekeeper would come in through the chimney. Right. And was dressed in like. Like red and white. Like an antiquated red and white costume almost, I think with a big white beard.
- [42:31]
B
Yeah, yeah. But the other thing that he mentions in his email, I think, is that Russell Wilson is on Cameo. And the way Ryan set it up was for $333, you can get your own Russell Wilson cameo. Now, I clicked on the link, and I think the price may have gone up. I feel like it's more than $333 now. It looks like it's.
- [42:57]
C
Well, I'm looking at it right now, and it says 333 on this. On his intro, I'm looking at it.
- [43:01]
B
And it says 467.35. You think it's different in D.C. are.
- [43:05]
C
There two Russell Wilson's? I don't know. I have the same number. And it makes sense. Because he was number three. Right. So, yeah, priced it at 333. Oh, but you.
- [43:14]
B
You.
- [43:14]
C
Maybe you're looking at a different package because it says 333 plus. So I wonder if it says book a personal video for $333 plus, which means, I think maybe for special requests or whatever, you could. The. The price could go up. But I am looking.
- [43:29]
B
Can you play us a little bit? Ryan also says that the Russell. Russell Wilson cameo is full of potential drops, but I actually haven't clicked on the link. Could you click on the link and favor us with that?
- [43:40]
C
Yeah. Just a little warning. I can't fast forward or pause or rewind this. Maybe I can pause, but I wouldn't be able to go back. And I, I heard this the other day. I turned on my car right as this was playing, and I was like, what the heck am I hearing?
- [43:52]
B
What's up, guys? Russell Wilson here. I'm super, super excited about doing something one do. For years, you guys have been asking for inspirational videos about faith, life, sports. Anything you guys need coming your way. Unlimited videos on camera. Let's go.
- [44:07]
C
There it is.
- [44:09]
B
I mean, first of all, by definition, they are limited. Like, he cannot do an infinite number of them. Unlimited videos on cameo.
- [44:18]
C
Maybe you haven't met Mr. Unlimited.
- [44:20]
B
Hey, you know what? I got to give him credit for sticking with the bit on that.
- [44:24]
C
Yeah, Unlimited.
- [44:27]
B
He's been thoroughly roasted for that.
- [44:29]
C
Oh, yeah, that's true.
- [44:30]
B
And he is not giving up on Mr. Unlimited.
- [44:32]
C
Yeah. Which is.
- [44:34]
B
I kind of gotta. I kinda gotta tip the cap to old Rusty on that one.
- [44:38]
C
He's so cringy. He's so cringy. My feelings about him. You and I started to talk about this a little bit before the show, but I tried to keep my powder dry. But, like, my feeling of him just whipsaws back and forth so much. When I heard recently, and I do not follow the ins and outs of his career, but like, he was a backup quarterback a couple of weeks ago, but then when the starting quarterback got injured, they skipped over him for the next game. So, like, when I hear stuff like that, I'm like, oh, man, Russ. Russ is really like, he's just. He's not going to pull out of this. Like, whatever happened to him in his waning Seahawks years and then where he. All the teams he went to afterwards, like, there was part of me after the initial sort of hurt, like, well, let's. Let's see a little bit more spark in this guy. Let's see this guy's second chapter, even though we did kind of leave Seattle thinking that he was better than he was and was left a little bit snottily, which didn't leave a great taste in our mouth. Ew.
- [45:32]
B
But he may have.
- [45:33]
C
Have.
- [45:34]
B
He may have called an audible on the interception in the super bowl, which.
- [45:38]
C
Yeah, that's still.
- [45:39]
B
For which I will never forgive him if that was, in fact, an audible.
- [45:42]
C
I think it was. Brady Henderson reported that. Right. And I've always wondered, like, how much truth there. Because he did some deep, deep diving, and that came out years later. But, yeah, and so, like, there's all of that. That stuff. The ego of him was just always so large, and it was like, you know, once he kind of turned on. On the city a little bit.
- [45:58]
B
You're like.
- [45:59]
C
But then as he continues, just dig deeper and deeper. And it sounds like he was deeply unliked by his teammates. Mr. Unlikable in Denver and then. But as also like a, you know, kind of a nice guy. I have a feeling he was humbled when he went to Pittsburgh. And like, people generally, I think he wanted to turn things around, not just, you know, on the field, but his reputation or whatever. But then I watch. So anyway, I sort of feel for him at times, is my point. And then I watch stuff like this. I'm just like, ugh, God, man. Ew. First of all, this is something he's been wanting to do for a long time. That's how he opens it. This is something I've been wanting to do for a really long time. And I don't.
- [46:34]
B
I think that's why he threw the interception in the Super Bowl.
- [46:36]
C
Yeah, I think so. He was distracted. Yes.
- [46:38]
B
Dreams of starting. Cammy was like, I know I'm about to win the super bowl here if I hand off to Marshawn Lynch. But I've always wanted to have a cameo.
- [46:45]
C
I always wanted to have a dialogue about faith in sports and. And pop culture.
- [46:50]
B
Limited videos coming your way.
- [46:52]
C
Coming your way. It's just like, it's.
- [46:54]
B
But the question is, you can receive a pep talk.
- [46:57]
C
You can say, happy birthday, ask a question, receive a pep talk. Shit, I'm going to do this, aren't I? I mean, pep talk from Russell Wilson.
- [47:07]
B
Ask him if people should be careful. Based on the spiciness.
- [47:12]
C
I will.
- [47:13]
B
We should come up with this. Might be a good use of $333 of TBTL money. Let's figure out what we want Russell Wilson to say.
- [47:20]
C
No.
- [47:21]
B
Get him to no. But, like, here's my question. Why is he charging. I understand that it's based on his number, number three, but, like, why? This is not an amount of money that in any way moves the needle in Russell Wilson's life. It should either be free or it should be $10 million a video.
- [47:39]
C
Well, you know, I don't think it can be free because what is he.
- [47:42]
B
Doing with the $333?
- [47:44]
C
Here's my thoughts on this. He can't make it too affordable for everybody because I think you have a commitment that you have to follow through on these. And so if he makes it free, then literally everybody, like every sports radio show, everybody who cares about, like, you, it would be way too much of an ask. And then he would let tons of people down. So he had to make it at a scale that is like, achievable for some people, but won't literally, you know, just grind him into the ground, I guess.
- [48:12]
B
But it's just like. I guess the real question is, why is he doing this? It's the strangest thing to me because it's just time out of his day. And again, the amount of money is insignificant to him and all the money that he's earned in his life. It's just such a weird thing. I mean, it's a thing that I'm sure we'll be doing in two years when this whole TBTL thing falls apart. Like, it's usually the sort of. It's the place where people who have some amount of notoriety go to try to make a little extra money on the side. It's just the strangest thing for Russell Wilson to be doing, in my opinion.
- [48:47]
C
I guess if he said all that, maybe this is something that he's been wanting to do for a while. Because you're right. I don't think there is a. I don't think there's a financial motivation. In fact, if you even told me that Russell Wilson is just going to take all of this and donate it, like, I wouldn't be surprised.
- [49:02]
B
That would be smart of him, by the way.
- [49:03]
C
Yeah. And I'm looking on his page now. I don't see anything that says that. But, like, I would not be shocked to hear that. Oh, yeah, he's going to give this all to Children's Hospital or that school thing that he. That's the other thing too is like, he also got into some things that seem weird financially. Like, what was the school that you started in Federal Way or whatever that was in a strip mall and then like, kind of went under and left some families scrambling, you know, like you're like. And I don't know the details on that, but I don't know. That's one of the reasons why I kind of don't want to give him another $333. But of TBTL's donors money. But I don't know, maybe he really does want an outlet because you're. I don't think that he's still. He's still carrying around that giant contract despite his playing on the field. Right. So I don't think that he's doing this because he's hit hard Financial times.
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B
I don't think he can't be that. He's also married to Sierra, who's also rich. I wonder too. For them, it's very interesting because they are both in professions where sort of like your youthfulness is a currency. And then when it goes away, it really goes away and it's difficult to.
- [50:11]
C
Ever get it back.
- [50:12]
B
For him very much physically, like, you know, he's just not as good at football as he used to be. And for Ciara, her, unless she, like, releases an album that somehow tops the charts, which is unlikely. It's like both of their worlds. Oh, that was something else that Joaquin Phoenix said in her that just killed me. He said, this is not really related to Russell Wilson and Sierra. But his character said, I'm just worried that I've already had every kind of. What do you say? I'm just worried that I've already had every kind of feeling I'm ever going to have and they're just going to get smaller and smaller throughout the rest of my life. I was like, oh, my God. Like, that just absolutely nailed my sort of ennui, is that I've had kind of every experience I'm going to have or I felt everything I'm going to feel and it's just going to be smaller versions of it for the rest of my life, you know? Anyway, back to Russell. We don't need to get fogged down in that. I'm doing great.
- [51:07]
C
Let me just. Let me just say this, that this has been a bit of an existential show for both of us. As more and more of me dies, I found new things to die on the inside. But by the way, this is really disappointing. It says 3% of my cameo proceeds will go to my why not you foundation.
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B
3%.
- [51:26]
C
And it's his own foundation, which was that tied up in that thing. Also with the why not you is also part of that little league little competition that we talked about too, right?
- [51:36]
B
Oh, right. Armani Our player from the, from the. The little sluggers was in that. I mean he was, he was listed as the why not you or why not me or whatever it's called. Was one of the many organizations that were associated with that.
- [51:49]
C
Yeah, but 3%, first of all, it's only 3% and it goes to my foundation. Like, you know, I know a founder. The idea of the foundation. 3%.
- [51:58]
B
I mean, like, let's just. So let's say that he gets three orders a day. So that's roughly a thousand dollars. 333 times three, we'll call it. We'll round up to a thousand. So what is 3% of a thousand? $30.
- [52:13]
C
Well, I can tell you that. Yeah. I mean, it's basically $10. 9.99 per cameo is going to his foundation.
- [52:20]
B
He.
- [52:20]
C
He charges $333. $10 of that goes to his own foundation. Why not you? And I, I gotta say, like, I don't, I don't. Yeah, all of these foundation. Yeah, yeah. And I would love to see a breakdown of the why not me foundation about where that money is going, how much of it is going to pay the people who work there and how much causes that it's supposed to support. I know youth and sports is one of them. I'm not trying to, not trying to dis. To use the parlance of the day, the mission maybe of some of these things, but it's also a way to park your money and avoid taxes and stuff.
- [52:55]
B
Yeah, that's such a strange. I mean, again, I know he's obsessed with the number three because it's his number, but like 33%. Yeah, right. Like how about 300%? How about every dollar that comes in you, you double, you triple it and then donate that to your. Like it is such a. So he's keeping 97% of his cameo proceeds.
- [53:18]
C
See how you swing back and forth, you start to. You're like, yeah, I feel bad for this guy. Then you're like, this guy is a bit of a. Yeah. D bag.
- [53:26]
B
Look at me, Lewis.
- [53:28]
C
Oh, I saw that.
- [53:29]
B
You know that we named the show don't look at me Lewis in your honor.
- [53:31]
C
I did, I did. And I had, I had a theory about that. Is that. Were you making fun of me because you knew that I wouldn't like that 15 year old kid who is a. Look at me, Louie, who was dressed up in a fedora and everything and was caught on camera.
- [53:45]
B
I think that was what came up. But this was the larger thing. And by the way, good job Listeners. John and I made a deal with the listeners, which was don't tell Andrew. Basically. I thought.
- [53:56]
C
Nobody told me that if we name.
- [53:57]
B
The show don't look at Me Lewis, we were basically talking about how you didn't like the guy in the fedora. And we said, like, look at Me Louie. And I said, which is interesting because that's your middle name. And then John said, well, it's more like a Don't look at Me Lewis kind of a situation. And I thought if we put that title on the show, it might be enough to make you listen. Like, you might be like, what, are.
- [54:15]
C
They setting a goal? Is that a goal of yours?
- [54:17]
B
It wasn't. I didn't go into the show with that goal. But, like, I was like, I wonder if we put Andrew's middle name clearly in the title of the show and we say, don't look at Me Lewis, if he'll be like, wait, what are they saying? And then he'll listen. And so we were doing an experiment and you didn't listen. And I think I said to the listeners, don't tell Andrew that this is what we're doing. So, good job, listeners. Or there were just no one tuned in.
- [54:40]
C
Also, good, good, good on me for piecing that together, like, because on Sunday. So this was Monday's show that you did. I'm just saying, good, good on me. Nobody else is saying good on me, but I'm saying good on me. Here's my parade. You and I were texting with Chris Hayes on Sunday, the day before you did that show with John.
- [55:00]
B
He was the one about the story to the update on the story that.
- [55:03]
C
This kid has been kind of identified. And I think. I don't think I put in the text, look at me Louie. But I was thinking, look at me Louie, to use the parlance of the Dan Levitard Show. And so when I saw the show title, I did think, oh, I wonder if they. Here's what I assumed. I assumed, first of all, that you guys just thought Louis was spelled L O U, I S. Because sometimes Lou, you know, sometimes Louis is spelled like that and pronounced Louis isn't Lou. Doesn't Louis Armstrong go by Louis? But it's spelled L O U, I.
- [55:32]
B
S. Well, here's the thing. He's. A lot of people call him Louis Armstrong, but I think his name was Louis Armstrong. And the reason is because, first of all, Cynthia Doyon, rest in power, used to call him Louis Doyon or Louis Doyle Louis Armstrong when she would do the Swing Years and beyond. And then when I was in New York at Birdland and there was like, so and so and the Flying Geronimos or whatever, like the jazz band who was naming a bunch of like, like, boop Shorty Henderson and stuff, he called him Louis Armstrong. I feel like jazz heads, people in the know call him Louis Armstrong.
- [56:07]
C
Well, here's the deal. Not that I'm a jazz head, but I grew up saying Louis Armstrong because my name is Louis. And I think I started calling him Louis because you called him Louis. I think. I don't know.
- [56:19]
B
Yeah, I've definitely called him Louis Armstrong.
- [56:21]
C
I feel like somebody corrected me at one point or I felt like I needed to correct my habit of calling him Louis. So I don't know now what is.
- [56:28]
B
I think you're in the right.
- [56:30]
C
But is that what most people say?
- [56:32]
B
And, you know, most people who are not jazz heads don't even know who the king of the tuk tuk sound.
- [56:37]
C
That is very true. So anyway, I was kind of like. I thought that you guys just spelled Louie that way. And I was kind of like, I would have gone with L, O, U, I, E. But I guess technically that is a spelling of Louis. But no, you guys were actually calling me Lewis and you were subtweeting. I see. So I was. I was close. Anyway. I'm just glad that I was partially right about one thing before all of everything inside me dies.
- [57:02]
B
Just telling you, Andrew, my feelings are getting smaller and smaller. It's tough.
- [57:08]
C
Here I go once again with the email. Every week I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man.
- [57:14]
B
It's not from a female. All right. Emails or vmails before we ski daddle.
- [57:20]
C
Yeah, you know, I can't get enough of cereal talk and blueberry talk and that this is an email or a. I'm sorry, a voicemail that came in a couple of weeks ago, I think when I was talking about eating so much Grape Nuts, which, by the way, I've fallen out of that habit. Ohio broke me of that habit. I just kind of got into.
- [57:36]
B
What were you eating in Ohio?
- [57:37]
C
Kind of nothing. My parents were kind of bummed because I think they maybe got me Grape Nuts because I said I've been eating them a lot lately. And then I never ate any of their Grape Nuts. I was kind of skipping breakfast and then just having like, you know, when you're hanging out with your folks, often it means going to like a diner or something for lunch. So a lot of that kind of stuff. But right before I left for my trip To Ohio. Did I tell you that I upped my old man game a little bit? And instead of getting another box of Grape Nuts, I got a box of shredded Wheat, like, unfrosted Shredded Wheat. And I was like, yeah, I kind of like. I don't know what's going on with.
- [58:09]
B
Me, but I had, like, sugar on it.
- [58:10]
C
No, I just put fruit. I put blueberries and strawberries in it, and it was good. And you know, those have sugar, so I liked it.
- [58:16]
B
Powerful levels of old manness.
- [58:19]
C
Let me tell you this.
- [58:20]
B
Shredded Wheat, unfrosted Shredded Wheat is. Is. It's honestly one of the last stages of life.
- [58:25]
C
And then I made a pot of chili. This is a true story. I made myself a pot of chili the other day, and I was living essentially on shredded wheat and chili for about a week. And my goodness. You ever see a balloon, like, to.
- [58:39]
B
Apologize to your toilet?
- [58:41]
D
Yes.
- [58:41]
C
I was flying around the house. Anyway, I think you were saying, how did you get. How did you eat Grape Nuts as a kid? Warm. With honey. Is that right?
- [58:49]
B
Not warm. No, but we would. Yeah, with honey. So it would be. You'd put the milk in, and then you would let the milk kind of infuse into the grape nuts, because, of course, they are, like, almost gravel when you try to. If you try to eat them dry and then a bunch of honey on top of it. That's how I was raised eating it. That's how I like it. I realize that's probably not normal. Just one of those things from my childhood.
- [59:12]
C
I think I've been hearing from a lot of people who did something similar. In fact, here's Kate.
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D
Hey, Cobros. Kate in Winston Salem, North Carolina, listening to episode 4587. Now we're talking about Grape Nuts. I just wanted to say I'm with Luke. I grew up eating grape nuts in milk with, like, so much Log Cabin maple syrup on it.
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B
Oh, maple syrup.
- [59:37]
D
I would literally put, like, a half an inch of syrup on there. It was kind of intense.
- [59:42]
C
We.
- [59:43]
D
The only cereals that we ate at home were Grape Nuts and honey nut Cherry is. So I had to get my sugar cereal fix somehow. But, yeah, so I get it with the honey thing.
- [59:59]
C
Pow.
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D
Out.
- [60:00]
C
Okay. I could. I could.
- [60:01]
B
Are you a maple syrup guy?
- [60:03]
C
Am I a maple syrup guy? You know, only in traditional senses. Like, but it's very rare that I'm eating pancake. Like, the only time I eat a pancake is when it comes to. As like, a side at ihop, which is, you know, not the healthiest thing in the world. But, like, instead of toast, I think they give you pancakes there because they have pancakes in their title, you know? But, like, I. If I'm at a restaurant just choosing off the menu, I don't usually choose a main course that is going to be a waffle or a pancake or something.
- [60:31]
B
Weirdly, I ate a lot of things with syrup on them as a kid because, again, we didn't have good, sweet treats in the house, but we did have sometimes, like, waffles or I learned how to make pancakes. And so I used a lot of, like, syrup, but it was never maple syrup because my mom thought maple syrup was, like, the fanciest thing. And every. Every once in a while, I feel like she would get a bottle of it, but it would be, like, her personal, private reserve of maple syrup. Huh. So that would just be for her.
- [61:01]
C
So what are you eating?
- [61:01]
B
She might hear this and disagree, but, like, I just remember maple syrup being this, like, very elevated thing when I was a kid. So we just had the regular kind. And what ended up happening was, was I don't have a taste for maple syrup. I don't really like maple syrup.
- [61:12]
C
Wait, what is. I think of maple syrup as the regular kind. What is the difference?
- [61:18]
B
There's, like, pancake syrup that doesn't have a maple flavor to it.
- [61:22]
C
Really? Okay. I don't think.
- [61:24]
B
Yeah, Like, I just Google, like, well, I'll try this without. Hopefully it won't kick us off our connection here. But, like, the pancake syrup that we grew up with was not maple flavored. It was just. Just, like, syrup flavored. So, like, can we even say this? Aunt Jemima? How about Mrs. Butterworth?
- [61:43]
C
Right? Sure. Yeah. So Mrs. Butterworth, you. You would consider that pancake syrup or maple syrup?
- [61:50]
B
Well, yeah, it's not maple syrup because. Well, I don't think it's Mrs. Buttersworth. Mrs. Butterworth. Mrs. Featherbottom's original pancake syrup.
- [61:59]
C
Oh, and that's not considered.
- [62:01]
B
I don't think that's maple syrup because I don't think it has a maple flavor to it.
- [62:05]
C
I honestly, like, I'm. This is shocking to me because I would have thought. I mean, I think we grew up with. I think we grew up with Mrs. Butterworth. I remember this. I remember this bottle, or at least a more antiquated version of this bottle. But I guess I'm trying to think if you sat down and you gave me a bite of pancakes with Mrs. Butterworth, or a bite of pancakes with something that is labeled as maple Syrup. It never occurred to me that that would taste different.
- [62:31]
B
Yeah, it really tastes different. And I was. I love the non maple syrup stuff. And I don't actually like maple syrup itself. The flavor of maple syrup is very specific to me.
- [62:42]
C
You know what it's being listed as in wikipedia? It says, Mrs. Butterworth's is an American brand of table syrups. And Luke, table syrup is clickable. So let's do this. Table syrup, also known as where's my bell? Hold on, everybody. Call me table syrup. Also known as pancake syrup, which is what you were just calling it. Right. And waffle syrup is a syrup used as a topping on pancakes, waffles, French toast, often as an alternative to maple syrup. Two dings. Although more viscous, typically. I didn't notice that. So it's like corn syrup.
- [63:17]
B
So more viscous means thicker.
- [63:19]
C
Yeah, I think so. Because I just remember those commercials you wanted to stop. Viscosity breakdown.
- [63:24]
B
Was it Valvoline commercials wash. Why was that the number one thing we emerged from our childhood knowing about Thermal breakdown and viscosity?
- [63:33]
C
The only kind of breakdown I haven't had in my life is viscosity breakdown in fat corn syrup. So it says it's typically made by combining corn syrup with cane sugar, high fructose corn syrup, food color and flavoring. So yes, a little bit like of a falseness there, which I just never would have made that distinction. But it is reminding me that growing up, we did eat a lot of. Of like frozen waffles. Did you eat those growing up? Is that what you were putting on? Yes.
- [63:58]
B
Well, if we had eggo waffles, that would be the, like, that'd be the best case scenario. But then we would buy. My mom would sometimes buy like generic ones. Sometimes they would be in a bag. Did you ever have those ones that were like, in like a. Like a plastic bag of frozen waffles?
- [64:14]
C
No, we did. Okay. No, I'm just joking. I'm trying to remember what we had. I don't. I don't think so. I think I'm picturing them in a box. I don't know if they were Eggo or not.
- [64:22]
B
You're probably. You probably had Eggo waffles.
- [64:25]
C
Yeah.
- [64:25]
B
And sometimes the thing about the waffles in a bag was they would get freezer burned. So they would get like. Also God knows what was happening in that house. It was a. It was a chaotic scene. But I feel like sometimes I'd be so excited to eat a waffle and I would get that bag out and then I would pull it out and they would just be all ice encrusted. And then when you toasted them, they would taste weird somehow because they had been like, like thawed out, frozen, thawed out, refrozen. They had ice crystals around them. We called that freezer burn when I was a kid. Yep, we still do.
- [64:54]
C
Yep.
- [64:55]
B
And yeah, I didn't. But yeah, if we, if, like, if we got a thing of Eggo waffles, I would, I could eat the entire box myself in like one morning. Like, there's nothing. To this day I should actually go get some Eggo waffles when I get home because like, you know, 11 year old Luke Burbank is confused as to why adult Luke Burbank isn't eating more Eggo waffles. Because he just lived for them. Them.
- [65:17]
C
Yeah, but Also I've met 20, 25 Luke Burbank and you're, you're not usually down for just like carbo loading at the beginning of the year.
- [65:25]
B
No, but I mean every once in a while myself, Yeah, I have, you.
- [65:28]
C
Know, I'm a little distracted here about something because I'm trying to figure out what waffle brand we would have used. Eggo, of course, was the main brand in the 80s and 90s when I grew up. For some reason. And I could be totally wrong about this, I feel like Eggo wasn't our go to. And, and this is what I'm struggling with right now. I'm looking at Eggo waffles and they're round and I'm trying desperately to remember if the freezer waffles that I grew up with were round. I feel like they were square. Were your square or round?
- [65:59]
B
Well, if they were in the bag, they were square, but if they were Eggos, they were round.
- [66:04]
C
See, this is, I feel like mine were square. Maybe ours was in a bag, I don't know. But I don't think we were an Eggo family. We were a Heinz family. You know, I don't have to prove to you that we were a name brand family, but we had Heinz, we had Clawson pickles, but for some reason we did not do Eggos, I don't think.
- [66:22]
B
Do you remember the Clawson Pickles slogan?
- [66:26]
C
Now this is interesting to me, and me only because I immediately picture a stork. And then I remember that's Vlasik though. Vlasik was the stork.
- [66:36]
B
You're right.
- [66:36]
C
Okay.
- [66:37]
B
Do you remember the Vlasic?
- [66:38]
C
Oh, so you are talking Vlasik. Well, I can picture him lying. He Has a cigar. Does he have a cigar? No, he has a pickle. He has a pickle, but he's using it like the Groucho Marx cigar, right?
- [66:49]
B
Yeah.
- [66:50]
C
So whatever.
- [66:50]
B
Like Leon Redbone. Groucho Marxy. Yes.
- [66:53]
C
And whatever he said was in this Groucho. Something about a crunch. Was it something about a crunch.
- [66:59]
B
Now, that's the best taste in pickle I ever heard.
- [67:01]
A
Yes.
- [67:03]
C
More bells. That's the best taste and pickle I ever heard. Absolutely.
- [67:09]
B
I feel like there was a period of time where we were really into that kind of guy. And you're right. I guess it's more Groucho Marx than Leon Redbone. But I feel like that was a whole shtick in the 80s when I was. Now that's the best tasting pickle I ever heard.
- [67:21]
C
That's such a good tagline. That really is such a good tagline. Yeah.
- [67:24]
B
They should bring it back.
- [67:26]
C
All right.
- [67:26]
B
All right. All right, sir, we should probably wrap things on up here. I am going to be doing some filming here in D.C. i'm doing a story about. It's a. It's a Christmas Story. It's about a gift guide that the lobbyists for Made in America put out. We're actually going to talk to some of the people that make cool stuff. But first we got to talk to the lobbying arm of the Made in America.
- [67:50]
C
Oh, just like the idea of Made in America, the concept.
- [67:53]
B
Yeah. Like they put out basically a list and it's got all 50 states, and in each state they pick a thing that you can buy as a gift in that state. That is all Made in America.
- [68:04]
C
Is tbtl, the product of Washington, by any chance?
- [68:08]
B
It should be. It's like a wind chime company in Port Townsend, actually.
- [68:12]
C
Oh, that's kind of.
- [68:13]
B
But I'm gonna see if I can talk to the lobbyists about getting that change. Sorry. Wind Chime Company. Yeah, it's actually a wind chime and puzzle company, I think. But we're going to be talking to.
- [68:23]
C
Is what it's called.
- [68:23]
B
That's right. Actually, Russell Wilson is the New York State.
- [68:27]
C
Yes.
- [68:28]
B
Representative. So anyway, that's my plan and I'll give everybody a full update on tomorrow's show. In the meantime, thanks for listening, everybody. Have a great rest of your Monday. Take care of yourselves. And please remember, no mountain too tall.
- [68:42]
C
And good luck to all. Power out.