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Luke Burbank
First time with the program.
Andrew Walsh
I can always spot a newbie.
Luke Burbank
My fifth year with wings. I guess Paul McCartney's got nothing on me, huh? Love, take me down to the streets. It's not a Wing song.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, it's one of their hits from the 70s.
Luke Burbank
I'm not sure which one. It's not a. It's not. It isn't?
Andrew Walsh
No.
Luke Burbank
I think it might be. That's not.
Andrew Walsh
Nobody sings that song. I don't know about that. I'll have to Google it. Tbtm. Well, well, here we are. I want to congratulate you for being on time.
Luke Burbank
I got recognized on the street today. Guy had already met me and then forgotten. He met me and then recognized me from tv and then remembered me again.
Andrew Walsh
Do not put that on the imaginary radio show.
Luke Burbank
Hey, you sound like you might be a little bit jealous, babe. No, and I. I know a little something about being jealous. Cause people have been jealous of me my entire life.
Andrew Walsh
I feel so full of. What's the opposite of shame?
Luke Burbank
Pride?
Andrew Walsh
No, not that far from shame. Less shame.
Luke Burbank
Yeah. Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Monday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. Ready to laugh and drop till your socks come off. My name's Luke Burbank. I am your host. We are living in the midst of a podcast boom coming to you from the south beach of Miami, Florida. I feel warm and I'm levitating. What the. Where? It is an absolutely gorgeous Monday morning. How are we not all living here during this, this season, my friends? I mean, I get what the hype is about. I get the idea of heading to Florida for the winter because I'm in Florida. I don't know if it's winter yet, technically, but I'm in Florida on December 1st, and it's as advertised, my friends. Speaking of things that are as advertised, if not better. Welcome to episode 4609 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Of course, I had to fly here yesterday from Portland, Oregon to Miami, and it was.
Andrew Walsh
I feel like a bird soaring over these haters.
Luke Burbank
You feel me? Though the trip actually was pretty uneventful, despite the fact that I was not dressed up in a three piece suit like Sean Duffy would like me to be, or, you know, I don't know, smiling at people, whatever it is that we're supposed to be doing on the airplanes now, I didn't do any of that and yet had a pretty good flight. We'll probably talk about that. Also, when I got here, one of the first things I did, I popped open my laptop and I watched what I thought was the season finale of the HBO show the Chair Company. And this is so confusing, Ron. There's no way that can be the season finale. Right. Anyway, we'll talk about that as well. Plus we'll get into, I'm sure, a whole bunch of other fun, interesting things, including welcoming this feller to the show. Longest running cobra of the program. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He has been struggling in certain areas of his responsibilities here on the program, but I guess I think the most fair way to deal with it would be basically this. I don't think he should be fired. Just moved down three or four rungs or five. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
Andrew Walsh
Good morning, Luke. I have too many emails. I need to. I apologize to all the listeners. I've fallen behind it. You should see my inbox right now, Luke.
Luke Burbank
What has it got? 7 emails?
Andrew Walsh
It's got like 6 unread emails and they're alphabetized. No, a lot more than that. I've got 35 unreads sprinkled in through. I'm talking about my TBTL mail right now. Not my, not my.
Luke Burbank
Andrewtbtl.net that's the one.
Andrew Walsh
Yes. Don't give out my secret one. The one where I get all my balders. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So my apologies. I see people are sending in some voice memos and stuff. We're gonna try to clean that up this week. How do you feel about that, Luke? Gonna try to clean some of this up this weekend.
Luke Burbank
Oh, also I love that idea.
Andrew Walsh
Apologies to people who sent in blurs days. You know, we had to record our shows kind of in a strange order last week because of the holidays, so we might have missed some blurs days. We're. Take care. By the end of this week, everybody will be whole. That's my promise to the listeners and to you.
Luke Burbank
Love it. And yes, last week was of course Thanksgiving, so there were some creative recording schedules going on for us, which does kind of mess with the blurs days. But we're going to try to get back on track this week. Andrew, I don't want to stress you out, but my email, not my TBTL account, but my. The one that I use for most of my other stuff has been being very, very strange on my phone. When I open my phone up. I just don't get new emails now. So I can go to the web, the website for my emails and Log into my account there and see them through like a web based deal. But I can't. They're not showing up in the like Outlook, you know, little email app that I usually use that's very handy dandy and just means I don't have to keep re logging into a website. And so that's been kind of a hassle because I'm traveling and I'm not getting some emails that I need. But then also because I went back to the web repository for all of my emails, it showed me some stats that are different than the stats in my Outlook account, including the fact that in my inbox I have a 121,000 emails, 19,645 of which I believe are unopened.
Andrew Walsh
Here's my, here's my guess on this.
Luke Burbank
That's got to be our record.
Andrew Walsh
I bet you you have tabs. Do you mind? I don't know what kind of system you use on your end and I don't want to dox you here, Luke, but. Well, I'm icloud. I'm wondering. Okay, it's Luke Lukey B at icloud Loki B. Yeah, I wonder.
Luke Burbank
121,780 messages, of which 19,645 are unread.
Andrew Walsh
I wonder if they didn't look like that to you on your old system because it's some sort of tabs thing where it's kind of like it just shuffled all the things tagged promotional under a different, under a different heading or something and now you're just seeing brightness.
Luke Burbank
The other one doesn't tell me the total number of my messages, it tells me the number of unread.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, right.
Luke Burbank
So I've known that we've been sitting at 19. I know that we're approaching the 20k mark, but I didn't know that. And that's, you know, upsetting enough. But I didn't realize that there was in total 121,780 messages in there. Like some of which have been looked at and read and responded to. But that's a big number. It's a big number.
Andrew Walsh
Are you paying for space? You must be paying for it.
Luke Burbank
Yes, and I'm not using all of it. This is another thing that I just saw because again, something's going on with my phone. So I keep having to go into my icloud account and my icloud account has a whole bunch of stuff in it. It's got like photos that are in the cloud and a whole bunch of different things, including My email. My email is just like one. One element of the whole thing. And in going in there, I also noticed that I don't know how many terabytes I'm currently renting from iCloud, but I'm using like that. All of those emails at 121,000 emails is like less than 17% of what I'm paying for.
Andrew Walsh
I was bumping up the. Bumping up to the ceiling of my storage capacity. It was maybe even. It was probably. I mean, if I know me, it was talked about somewhat on tb. I don't know to what tedious degree, but it was driving me bananas. And for, I want to say, like they clearly had changed something in their settings or in their limits or something, because I was at my.
Luke Burbank
Oh, really? I know a guy. I happen to know a guy who's at his limit.
Andrew Walsh
I didn't even. I honestly like you saying that I came upon that stepping stone as honestly.
Luke Burbank
As possible, my friend.
Andrew Walsh
But it was really driving me bananas. And I was hearing from other people as well, like saying, yeah, suddenly I don't have as much. And I later realized it was kind of complicated. You know, everything that I do is tied up in the Google sphere, right. With Android phones and all my Google products. It hadn't suddenly switched the limit. It had suddenly decided it was going to back up all, I want to say, photos and media to every device I had that was technically a Google device or an Android. And so therefore it was like taking.
Luke Burbank
Everything from like just storing more stuff.
Andrew Walsh
It was just. Yeah, and then I had to go in. But to. It was like. Let's for another analogy. It was sort of like Indiana Jones having to take like the gold off of the weight and then replace it with the sand. I don't know, was it gold? I don't know if it was gold.
Luke Burbank
I think it was like a bag or something. But he's putting a bag of sand down maybe to replace it in the weight department.
Andrew Walsh
Exactly. And so it was like this tricky thing where it's like, well, if you switch this off on a device, you're gonna lose everything. You have to switch it off on a computer and you have to be logged. It was like this weird thing. But then once I just basically told these devices to stop syncing, sudd, syncing, sync.
Luke Burbank
You got.
Andrew Walsh
All of.
Luke Burbank
You got a bunch of space back.
Andrew Walsh
I got a whole bunch of space back. Exactly. And it was weird.
Luke Burbank
Very satisfying.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, very satisfying. And then I got a new phone about six months ago. I went into too much detail telling you how I was waiting at the airport for like two and a half hours to get out of Cleveland on a weird Sunday night or Monday night. And I was sitting at the bar and I was like, oh, I should be cleaning up more of these photos that are in my. That have started automatically uploading to my Google Photo Drive or whatever it is, something I don't use. You know, I just back up all my stuff on hard drives and everything. And so I turn it off and I start deleting photos. But that's when I realized, oh, unless you do this from a. Unless you do this from a computer, you're also deleting it from all your devices. They make it so incredibly hard. So, like, I'm basically on my phone now missing about three months of photos because I didn't. I didn't put this bag of sand on the virtual weight properly.
Luke Burbank
Well, and what I'll. I will say what I always say about these things. I promise you. None of this is because they're trying to make less money from us.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, right, exactly.
Luke Burbank
I mean, I don't think. You're probably not even paying Gmail anything. I am paying Apple all this money because every time it's like I need to send an email and it's like, you're out of space here. Do you want to pay three more dollars a month for another terabyte of room? Instead of going in and cleaning the thing out and, you know, unlinking various things and unsinking other stuff, I just go, yes, because I need to send an email in this moment. So take my. So now I'm paying Apple. I don't know, it's like 12, 15 bucks a month just for storage. Just for all this. All this storage that honestly, if I went in and just did a little hygiene in there, I probably wouldn't need almost any of it because I know a guy who's not at his limit.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, exactly.
Luke Burbank
And it's probably me, but I'm just too sort of tech unsavvy to deal with it. So here I am getting a bill from Apple every month for all this storage space that I'm not necessarily using. Hey, I wanted to ask you real quick, how was Meat Swords Thanksgiving?
Andrew Walsh
Oh, very filling. It was very nice. You know, so I went to a Brazilian steakhouse, something I hadn't done in. I think, like we had said like 20 years or something. The first time I went, I was a young man in my 20s, and I, and I loved it. And I said, we're gonna go.
Luke Burbank
Did you Eat more as a young man. Like, did you find yourself. I'm not trying to say this again, but at your limit.
Andrew Walsh
I really don't know. I don't know. I just know that I had. I was totally new to the concept of a Brazilian steakhouse. And for those who are also new to it, they come and with these huge pieces of meat of various kinds. Pork, beef, chicken, all the. All the greatest hits prepared in different ways. And they will slice it off of these skewers right onto your plate. You take these tongs, and you kind of help them lower it gently.
Luke Burbank
Do they have the red light, Green light?
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, they have a little coaster on the table. That was.
Luke Burbank
Every restaurant should have that.
Andrew Walsh
I think, actually, that was the thing that I. Exactly. Just keep coming around. If it's. If it's green, they're coming around.
Luke Burbank
A visual representation of if you need help or not. Kind of like the overhead airplane thing. Just like a lamp you could light. Hey, we could use some help. And then if the lamp's off, then they don't have to worry about you.
Andrew Walsh
So we went with Kamaro Kev's family, which was a very. So I kind of didn't realize this, and I don't want to tell stories out of school, but I guess there's a certain irony here in that he had originally sort of broken off from traditional Thanksgiving festivities to have a smaller deal, I guess, years ago with just like him and, you know, his wife, our friend Anita, and his parents, like, four or maybe five of them, if Anita's mom would be involved. Just a way of sort of avoiding the kind of chaos of the holiday season and coordinating. Are we going to this person's house? So they made it a small thing years ago, but now it has evolved into. Everybody liked his plan better. And so now it was like, 14.
Luke Burbank
Kurt in the mix. We got Clay in the mix.
Andrew Walsh
We got every. The whole. And their kids. And, like, it was just this huge clan of people. And it was fun. Like we said at the end, it was me and Genevieve and Genevieve's parents across from. I'm sorry, Kamara. Kev's parents across from us. Who.
Luke Burbank
Pat and the D man.
Andrew Walsh
Exactly. Whom we love. So. And then, you know, Kevin and Anita. So we got to hang out. At the very end, we're all leaving. We're all just stuffed like ticks. I told myself, like, take your time. It's not a competition. Like, just eat what you want. But there's something about that. They just.
Luke Burbank
What did you eat the most?
Andrew Walsh
Coming back? Bread of the meats. Just kidding about the bread. People are always like, you're.
Luke Burbank
Although the bread there is amazing. Those little cheese puff bread things.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. But I avoided those. I didn't like the idea of the cheese being in the middle of it. So that wasn't a problem for me. But that's kind of exactly what, you know, people go into those situations. They're like, don't fill up on the bread. That's kind of how they get you or whatever. But it's like, I'm not here to be God or not. Got like, just chill out and eat what you want to eat. Right. But I gotta say, there is something about them coming around. They came around a lot, by the way. And there are a bunch of different. It wasn't just like one kind of steak or whatever. There are several kinds of steak. And I think my favorite was one that was prepared in a specifically Brazilian way that I don't recall the name of anymore. But it is kind of. It does put this sort of pressure on you. Like you're clearing your plate and more is being added. And so, like, by the end, I was like, what am I doing? Like, just slow down, my buddy.
Luke Burbank
Well, because you've paid, you know, you've paid a fixed price and it's all of it that you can eat. And so there is also this. There can be this mentality of like, the more of this that I eat, the better deal I'm getting.
Andrew Walsh
I know, but I don't really go in for that. You know what I mean? You pay what you pay. Like, don't make yourself yourself. That's exactly what I mean. I don't like that attitude of I gotta get my money's worth, you know what I mean? Like, just go in and you're paying what you're paying. Just enjoy it. And I did enjoy it, but it just ends up sort of creeping up on you, I think, sort of the. The amount of food you eat. As we're leaving. So everybody's done. We're all full. We're all standing outside. I don't know why. I think the family's all saying goodbye or whatever. And I'm sort of on the outskirts of everything. And I hear Kevin, the outskirt steak. Yes. Teasing his niece, who I'm gonna put at like. And I didn't really chat with her. I haven't seen her in years and I didn't chat with her at dinner. But I'm gonna put her around, I don't know, maybe 12 now or something. Somewhere between 11 and 13, let's say. And as we were leaving the restaurant, she was collecting a lot of the little red light, green light coasters off the table because there were like three different versions or something. And you know, kids sometimes are just like, I'm gonna collect these little. I remember this. It's like I'm gonna remember this day, you know what I mean? A little, little knickknack to take with you or whatever. So I see her, I even help her. I'm like, oh, here's a different one. And I give her one. Maybe she's taking a stack of like 10 of these things, right? And then we're outside and I see Kevin and he makes some joke to her about like, you're not allowed to take those. And she, her eyes get big for a second and then he's like, I'm just joking. And this is where I'm just such. I'm just so on brand of an asshole. So I saunter over and I say to Kevin while he's still talking to his niece, kind of, I'm talking to both of them, but I'm talking to Kevin. I go, kevin, everybody's like freaking out inside. Like they're missing a whole bunch of coasters. Like everybody's just sort of losing their mind in there. And. And his niece and her mom both turned to me like wide eyed. Like he just took. He just made a little joke and then ended it. Right? And I got to come along and kind of say this. And it only lasted. Maybe they weren't suspense for maybe three seconds. I didn't. It wasn't like I was trying to drag this. Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Draw it out.
Andrew Walsh
But I could see that. And Genevieve is there, she's like, what do I always tell you? You tease too hard. And like, and. And Kevin's sister in law is like, oh my God, I took some too. You really had me. But they're all laughing. Or at least I don't know if the niece is really laughing at this point. But it's one of those things where I saw somebody having a good time teasing a kid. And what do I got to do? I got to say, yeah, they're bringing the cop cars. They have fire hoses and handcuffs.
Luke Burbank
You'll go to jail for life.
Andrew Walsh
You're going to jail for life. And so that was my takeaway, is I shouldn't talk.
Luke Burbank
No, I think that I like that energy. I like that kind of pranksterism. Prankster. Although the funny part is you're not a fan of pranks.
Andrew Walsh
No, I'm not, I'm not.
Luke Burbank
But, but that's, but that's. I think that's some gentle pranking. I think that's. I'm sure I was deploying some gentle pranking at the Burbank family Thanksgiving. There was a per usual, a massive turnout. I don't know how many people were there? 30, 40? It was a lot.
Andrew Walsh
It's at your sister's house? Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Or no, you're my mom and dad.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, sorry.
Luke Burbank
Always. Yeah, that's part of the, that's part of the whole. There's so many rituals involved now and just like schedules and like who stays? You know, half of the family, like half of the kids stay at the Best Western in town. Somehow I've. I'm allowed to be part of the group. Addy and I are allowed to be part of the group that stays at my parents house because we like to watch the Macy's parade in the morning and so that kind of. It's easier to just be there in the morning when you get up. But yeah, it was really fun. By the way, the karaoke machine was a pretty big hit. I brought that thing in on Wednesday night. Okay, Wednesday night is not Thanksgiving. It was just dinner was like kind of being wrapped up. My mom and dad were there, my sister Liz and her husband Jason and then their kids, Jack and Abe. It's like you know, maybe 6, 45, 7 o' clock at night. There's not a particularly party atmosphere. And within a minute of me putting the karaoke machine down on the dining room table which does not have the dishes cleared from it yet, full on karaoke party is ensuing. My mom is singing. Abe is immediately latching onto the voice modulation functions and he's beatboxing on there and he's. This is. The kid is such a digital native, he's probably, I don't know, he's in seventh grade actually, I know this for a fact. And it's just so interesting the way a seventh grader's mind works around technology, like digital technology. First of all, he was able to get two things running on there that I couldn't remember how I was playing it off of my phone when I was playing it on the show on the Wednesday episode. He immediately figured out how to get the carafun and the YouTube going on there. And then I did my little joke where I played the, the microphone, I did the cartoon voice which is very silly and funny. And then he realized there was a custom feature so you could like customize the bass and the treble and all these different things on your. So then he's just in there customizing the mic for his voice so he can beatbox. And he's not even. I just want to be clear, he's not into beatboxing, per se. But it was just like. And then we. Then we're singing. The whole family is singing Keith Green music, which is. Which is weird for me because I love to be an American.
Andrew Walsh
No, no, this is Christian, right?
Luke Burbank
Keith Green is very Christian. It's like, exceedingly. He's like the Christian Billy Joel, like, real piano kind of music and. But, like, the actual. Like, the actual message of it is something that I personally don't agree with very much at all. Like, he was from a particularly sort of hardcore worldview. I mean, for instance, this guy, Keith Green, this singer, his whole, I guess you would say ministry, if you will, his music and whatever else, the publishing, all the things that were associated with his kind of music, it was all called. The business was called Last Days Ministry, as in, we are in the last days of this planet. Like, it's like the guy was not just sort of like, he wasn't Amy Grant. Although actually, Amy Grant in her early days was also pretty like, you know, El Shaddai is a. Is a. You know, is a fairly, like, churchy song. But anyway, so we're singing Keith Green, which I'm loving, but I'm also, like, I don't agree with this stuff, but I also love this music, and I love singing it with my family. It was a whole thing.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, that sounds. That reminds me, by the way. I feel like I've told you this before, but there were two songs that were playing in the 80s on mainstream radio, and one of them actually did.
Luke Burbank
Have very Curio Laza.
Andrew Walsh
Exactly. Explicit Christian, you know, imagery and language. Right. Yeah. And I grew up. I know that you looked at Catholicism differently than I did when I was a kid. I just. I just didn't really know the difference between different kinds of Christianity. I'd. Like, I only knew my own. Nor should you have, by the way. You know, I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't out there judging.
Luke Burbank
I think we were on the wrong side of that.
Andrew Walsh
I mean. Yeah, I, I. Whatever. I don't know why exactly. I also just maybe was not super deeply curious about these things. I don't know. Either way. I was like. I was a little kid. I was like, part of the church as an altar boy and everything like that. But, like, when I was a little, little kid, I think I Would just hear Kyrie le son. I think I may be saying that incorrectly, but that's how it sounded to me at the time.
Luke Burbank
Just carry a laser.
Andrew Walsh
Carry a laser, son.
Luke Burbank
Carry a laser gun.
Andrew Walsh
Carry a laser gun.
Luke Burbank
I think a lot of people did think it was carry a laser.
Andrew Walsh
Really? Well, that's more like along the lines.
Luke Burbank
Of your brain, if you weren't familiar with whatever, Aramaic or Greek or something. Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
And so. And this was a song. These were words that I also heard in church. And so, see, I knew. I knew that.
Luke Burbank
I knew it was related to our br. So I didn't know what those words meant until that song happened.
Andrew Walsh
In fact, you said Aramaic. I guess I always assumed it was Latin, but I.
Luke Burbank
It's probably Latin.
Andrew Walsh
I don't know. Yeah, but all I knew was I was hearing words that I heard in church on the radio. It didn't seem strange to me because I was just like, yeah, it's Christianity. Like, I just didn't think beyond my bubble of Catholicism, Christianity, my family slash pop culture. Right. I just assumed we all were on the same journey or whatever. And so another song came out that I. And this is where this story is going to crash upon the rocks of my memory. Another song came out that. Oh, I know there was a song called I think Rosanna that came out, but I thought it was Hosanna. Yes. Is it because we were singing something in church called Hosanna, I think, or Hosanna. Yeah. And so it. And because I was just accustomed this idea of Christian music being the main pop culture music of the time on, like, 106.5 or whatever it was. I was not an adult until I realized, oh, they're not singing Hosanna. They're singing about a woman named Rosanna. This is not another, like, spiritual song.
Luke Burbank
May have loose morals.
Andrew Walsh
Indeed. Which is when I really clutch my pearls. I have to buy pearls and then clutch them. Yes. So, yeah, it took me a while to separate those things out. That's not really related to your story. It's just part of it.
Luke Burbank
It kind of is. Because when I was a kid, I was deeply aware of any time something Christian seeped into the secular culture or vice versa, because there were these really tight rules around what we were allowed to listen to. I've said this on the show many times, but, like, for instance, Amy Grant, you know, she started out as a. As a Christian music singer, and that was very allowed in our house. And then she put out Baby, Baby, and she had gone worldly and now was no longer you know, allowed to be played in her house. Meanwhile, Bob Dylan, I think now I could be. This is something that I remember being like 6 or 7 years old and overhearing grownups talking about how Bob Dylan is now a Christian.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, yeah, right. He went through that whole phase.
Luke Burbank
And so then, like, for a minute, we were like, allowed to listen to Bob Dylan because he was a Christian.
Andrew Walsh
Only the good stuff, though.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, only like circa 1986, when he was. When he was just like dabbling in evangelical thoughts or whatever. But it was like I was always tracking everything based on. Is this from the, you know, world of Christianity or the world of secular, you know, whatever sort of popular stuff. Because I was so happy when something would move into the category of something I was allowed to enjoy. So whether it was, you know, they're an athlete, like, you know, we were not that. Here's the thing, I wasn't like, not allowed to enjoy non Christian Seahawks, but I was really allowed to enjoy Steve Larchant because he was a Christian.
Andrew Walsh
What I like about the Bob Dylan thing, it was like, well, we were only allowed to watch the SNLS when Lorne Michaels stepped away. Like, what are, like. You're only allowed to listen to, like, the. The universally acknowledged worst phases of all pop culture.
Luke Burbank
I mean, I'm. I'd also be really curious to like, go back and look at what that actually was about. Like, how hardcore did he get into it? Did he like, you know, did he get, quote, unquote, saved, as we would call it? Or did he just say one thing in an interview or maybe put out one song that left it open? You know, I. Again, I didn't. There was no Internet. I was just a kid. I just remember hearing Bob Dylan was on the approved list for a period of time. I wonder what he really did.
Andrew Walsh
I don't know much about this. I'm not a Bob Dylan guy. I mean, I don't dislike him, but I have always heard about his Christian. Like, it was a thing, I think. I don't know if it lasted more than one album, but, you know, I'm sure a lot of our listening audience do know about this or does know about this. But it was a real thing. I don't think your parents were exaggerating it. It was like Bob Dylan's Christian era. But I don't know if that lasted for more than one record.
Luke Burbank
Wow. Andrew. I'm looking out the window. I'm in South Beach. I'm looking out towards this hotel that I'm in is not particularly Fancy. Like, we're not on the water, but you can kind of see the ocean from the room across. Many other hotels and a flock of American pelicans just flew by. They're the same kind that fly around at my house. I mean, probably not literally the same ones. That'd be pretty far for them to go, but they've got these beautiful white bodies and then these black. The tips of their wings are all black. And like, there's something crazy about seeing them flying around at the mighty Columbia where I live and now seeing them flying around the Atlantic Ocean here in Miami. Like, I don't know, there's something that's strange to think that it's all connected. That being said, I forget, you know, I spent like a year or so in Miami and I have forgotten in the. In the intervening many years that this is a truly unique city in America. This does not feel like you are in the United States anymore. Like, from when you're landing. I mean, just the look of. I mean, if you look. Look at where it is on the map, it's almost Cuba. Like, it is geographically so different than any other place in the United States you're going to go to, including even north Florida, to agree to a degree. Like, when we were landing, it felt more like we were landing in like Central America or something, you know, with. Based on the plants and the weather patterns and even some of the building styles. It is just. The re is such an international city. Like, it is. So, you know, like. And part of why I know that everywhere I go, people are smoking. Like, you know, which does not happen in the US in most US Cities anymore that I kind of notice, like, everywhere that I like. So this hotel that I'm staying in, which is in south beach, it's kind of. It's one of those things where they're trying to use. I think you and I have talked about these kinds of hotels before. It's a. The rooms are very small and the carpet's pretty threadbare and it's a little bit ratty in places. But they're trying to use, like, hipness. Like, if you go to the third floor where the restaurant is, they've got like an art display there with really edgy art. Like somebody made, like a thong. Like, you know, like a thong that you would wear, like a very kind of revealing bathing suit out of, like, ceramic and it's for sale.
Andrew Walsh
Like one. Like I would wear the kind you.
Luke Burbank
Would wear usually when you're wearing your spaghetti strap tank, tank top shirt that you Love that says.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, yeah. It says SeaWorld sucks. Yeah, I think that was.
Luke Burbank
But like, so. And they have a bunch of different. Like they're all. The art that's for sale is kind of like, you know, just people is scantily clad or people making out or people of the same gender making out. Like, it's, it's all kind of edgy here. And I think that they're trying to kind of use like. Like they would. I was in line this morning trying to deal with something at like 8 in the morning and somebody was checking in and the front desk gal was like, would you like your champagne now? And the lady was like, no, I'm okay. The kind of place that will give you a glass of champagne at 8 in the morning but hasn't vacuumed the rugs on the sixth floor in what would appear to be a very long time.
Andrew Walsh
Is it tough being. I mean, I know you're. Your life is, you know, very different than mine, so I can't really associate with this probably. But like, does it feel weird to be there working in a place that is such a vacation wonderland? Everybody around you is there to vacation and party.
Luke Burbank
I did not expect this. So, for instance, I go to Los Angeles now a fair amount for work and that just feels like a place that I do work sometimes. I've been in Vegas working and weirdly enough, that hasn't really bothered me. In fact, what I've noted when I'm working in Las Vegas is like, this is kind of a weird scene here. Like when, when I'm not drinking and gambling and being part of the weird scene when I'm removed from it, it appears to me to be a weird scene.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I believe that. I believe that.
Luke Burbank
And so I kind of wasn't thinking about, like, I, you know, the fact that everyone here pretty much. That's not true. There's lots of people working. There's lots of people working at the restaurants and cafes and the hotels and there's a lot of people that are very. Working very hard here. But like, I was out on a, like a jog this morning along the water here on south beach. And you're just going past all of these beach clubs, which are like the kind of things where they set up a bunch of chairs out in the sand and they have, you know, umbrellas and you can rent your chair and someone's taking care of you and there's all these very stylish and cool beach hotels that are all there. And I just see people kind of walking around in their swim trunks, and they've been in the ocean and they're drinking a Mai Tai, and it's like, everyone is in relax mode here, and I'm just like. Like, I'm actually. I couldn't really be in less relaxed mode because we're filming a bunch of stuff here for CBS this week, but I'm also getting ready to do. We're doing Livewire in Seattle on December 5th at Ben Royal Hall. Please come out if you can. But I'm stressing about that. I have. Wait, wait, don't tell me. On Thursday night in Phoenix, which I'm not really stressed about, but it's just another thing to think about and, you know, the flights and everything. So not only am I not in vacation mode here, I'm not in, like. Oh, and also, we're filming very early in the morning a lot of these days, so it's kind of like, you know, if I was gonna go out and, I don't know, have a late dinner or even have a drink or something, like, just kind of have some Miami fun after my long day of work, like, that's off the table. And I was really kind of. I was. I was a little bummed about that today in a way that I wasn't expecting. I was like. Because I was doing my schedule in my mind, I was like, well, there's gotta be one afternoon I can go sit at the pool, or there's gotta be one, you know, evening that I can just kind of let my hair down. And it's like, no, actually, that the schedule does not permit any of that. And I'm. I'm a little jealous. I'm a little jealous of. Of the people that are here just kind of enjoying themselves. And it's also art Basil this week, which is this, like, crazy art fair, which is making so funny.
Andrew Walsh
I remember them talking about that on the LeBatard show all the time. It's how.
Luke Burbank
Oh, by the way, I watched the football game at the Clevelander.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, did you?
Luke Burbank
Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
Is it huge?
Luke Burbank
It's the Cleveland.
Andrew Walsh
I'm sorry to interrupt for one second. For people who don't know, the podcast I used to be obsessed with used to record out of studios that were in the Clevelander, which is a hotel, but also, like, bar and party center. Right?
Luke Burbank
Yeah. And I didn't go very far. I didn't go into the hotel. I just wanted to watch the Seahawk game. Oh, by the way, you want to get into mundane updates, I have figured out the. The bummer about YouTube Live YouTube TV Live or whatever versus Fubo. Yeah, it won't let me. YouTube TV or whatever. Yeah, YouTube TV will not let me watch the Seahawks game when it's out of market for Miami.
Andrew Walsh
Damn.
Luke Burbank
Fubo didn't care.
Andrew Walsh
So wait a second. So you have to be. This is so confusing, Ron, because baseball makes you be out of market to watch your team. So in other words, if I want to watch a Mariners game with the usual service, I would usually have to leave Seattle in the end the sea. But this is the opposite. If you want to watch a Seahawks game, you have to be in Seattle with YouTube TV.
Luke Burbank
I have to be in an area where the local TV is showing the Seahawks all it wanted to show me. When I got to. Because I would, like, got to the hotel room, I was like, okay, cool. Because also the game was, you know, almost at halftime when I finally got here. So I like, set my laptop up. I'm like, great, I'll watch the second half of the Seahawks game here in the hotel room on my laptop. And it's like, where are you? And I'm like, I'm in Miami. And then it's, like, only showing me, like. And then I tried to use a VPN to trick it. And it's like, we detect you're using a vpn.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I've gotten that before.
Luke Burbank
Like, so. So then I was like, well, I gotta find somewhere that's playing the game. But this is, you know, South Beach. Miami is a lot of things. It's not really football central. Like, it's. I mean, obviously, you know, people like the Dolphins around here, but it's not like the land of sports bars. It's the land of, like, Cuban restaurants and salsa joints and, you know, gay bars and stuff. It's, like, got all kinds of energy, but it ain't NFL energy. So the only place that had all the games was the Clevelander, which I thought of you when I walked in there, but I was just in the outside. So because it's Miami, it would still, like, you know, 80 degrees at, like 5 o' clock at night or whatever. And so I was just sitting by myself at this table. Also, nobody seems to care about the football game. You know, if you're in, like, a major American city and the. It's NFL Sunday, and there's a bar that shows all the games. You'll go in there and you'll see the partisans from whatever team and a bunch of people in their Green Bay packers stuff and their Pittsburgh Steelers stuff and whatever. I seem to be the Only person in south beach who understood that there was NFL football happening yesterday.
Andrew Walsh
Did you go around explaining to people what an NFL move. Sorry, what a football move is in order to make it a catch?
Luke Burbank
Yeah, I kept showing people on the street. The police asked me to stop because I would accost strangers and go, was that a football move? But so I get to the Clevelander, which said they have all the games, which they did. And then I just went in and sat like. So I'm outside and it's also like, like a reggaeton beach club bar, the outside area. I think the name the Clevelander made me think it was like more sort of debonair almost like, like wood paneling and like cigar culture or something. Maybe that's in the hotel. But where I was was just actually kind of like a shitty. It's like a shitty bar that you would go to in like Puerto Vallarta where they come around blowing a whistle, trying to pour like alcohol directly into your mouth.
Andrew Walsh
Uh huh. That is more the vibe I got from it. But again, I clock a lot of hours listening to.
Luke Burbank
See, I didn't realize that was the vibe. I thought it was like. I don't know why, because all of these bars on that particular run of like Collins are that they're there for tourists to, you know, party down and get like loaded or something. So I don't know why in my mind I had made the Clevelander into this sort of like, like stately, you know, like sort of art deco, whatever. But yeah, and it was much more like what you thought it was, which was just. And I'm just. It's weird because I'm in there watching, I'm not drinking and I just want to watch the Seahawks. But all around me there's just like there. And by the way, it was also too early for the party to be going down. So it's kind of. It's sort of dead. Except there's like a couple of tourist guys from Canada that are trying to hit on the bartender who's wearing next to nothing while I'm like. It was just. The whole thing was kind of strange, as was the game itself. But anyway, this because Art Basel is happening here in, in Miami and particularly in south beach this week. I think this hotel that I'm in is also overrun with influencers and, or, I don't know, people. Everyone looks like they might be about to start filming themselves on their phone going live at any moment. Yeah, that's kind of the style of the folks and the age group of the Folks that aren't me in this hotel. And it's kind of interesting because every time I've had to wait in line to get something at the front desk, it's been a crazy line. And it's not because the people at the front desk are incompetent. They're actually very nice and very competent. It's because everyone has some problem with how the bill is being paid and. Or charged, as in who is paying for it. Like, three times I've been in line where there's been somebody who's just blocking the whole line because there's some confusion about who is actually paying for the. And I think it's because all these people are working for these, like, media startups or these, like, you know, various, like, entities. And it's unclear, like. And none of these are people who probably have stayed in hotels a ton, maybe, or paid their own bill on the hotel or something. There just seems to be bill confusion left and right. And then this. So this morning I was. I was. I needed to print something out. So I go down. This is like 8 in the morning. There's a crazy line. I finally get to the front. The front desk person is super helpful. They give me the email address I need to send it to. And what I didn't realize was I had put my AirPods down on the front desk and had left them behind. So I get back to the hotel room and I realized, oh, shoot, I don't have my AirPods. I must have left them downstairs. So I get back in the elevator, I go back downstairs, I wait in a. Not as long of a line, but still a line. And then I say to the very nice person at the front desk, I tell her, I say, oh, I think I left my AirPods here. She goes, oh, yeah, somebody found some. They just took them back in the luggage area. Let me get them for you.
Andrew Walsh
Can I ask you a quick question?
Luke Burbank
Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
When you say you left your earbuds behind, would they have been in their little case?
Luke Burbank
They were in there.
Andrew Walsh
Or two. Lucy's. Okay.
Luke Burbank
No, they were in the case. So I was holding. Because what I was gonna do was go on a run. The plan was to ask them if they could print some stuff out. And then they would say yes. And then I would go on my jog and I would get the stuff. When I got back, that didn't work because my email is screwed up and I can't forward things off of my phone. So I had to come back upstairs to the hotel room, get my laptop out and send them the things that I need printed out. And in that whole little moment of time, I realized I left my AirPod case with the AirPods in it on the front desk, come back downstairs, like, it's been six minutes, if that. And the front desk person is like, oh, yeah, I think someone found some and they're in the back. And then she goes back to get them, and then she's gone for kind of a long time that she comes back, she goes, oh, so. And so has them. He'll bring them out. And I thought, well, I didn't even just give them to you, but okay. So I go and I sit down, I'm waiting, and then finally the guy comes out, and he's holding the AirPods, but he won't quite show them to me. He sort of has them hidden in his hand. He goes, did you leave something on the front desk? I was like, yeah, some AirPods. Like, he didn't want me to see that they were AirPods in case I was gonna guess wrong or something like that kind of thing, where it's like, we can't give you all the information about this until you verify that they're yours.
Andrew Walsh
Which means if you're experiencing this correctly and you're not building up to something else here, I feel like that speaks more to the client, the usual clientele, than it speak to you. Right.
Luke Burbank
Yeah. I didn't feel judged. I just thought, like, I thought, well, that's an interesting level of. And I truthfully, I think it might have just been this guy. He was a little. Hospital corners, because. So he goes, you left something? I said, yeah, there were AirPods. And again, I have to point out, I have been gone for eight minutes. I left. I came back to the same person who was helping me and said, I think I left my AirPods here. She was like, oh, yeah, somebody has them. Clearly, she went back there to get him. And the guy was like, I'll handle this. So he comes out and he goes, well, you have to prove that they're yours. And I go, okay. And he goes, let me see if your phone recognizes them.
Andrew Walsh
What the hell?
Luke Burbank
Oh, Andrew. He goes, let me see if your phone recognizes the AirPods. And I go, okay. Like, I don't really care. I guess I'm glad that he's taking it seriously. But I go. I go something like, I'm kind of joking. I'm not mad or anything, But I go, that'd be a pretty lucky guess if I came down here trying to steal AirPods. He goes, well, you'd be surprised. So, Andrew, I have my phone up, and he flips the top on my AirPods, and it immediately says on my phone, on the screen, Luke's AirPods. And it also tells me, embarrassingly, charging case 1%. It's like, yes, my life is a mess, sir. I understand. So now I'm like, okay, you should.
Andrew Walsh
Be in my emails, right?
Luke Burbank
I know a guy who's at his limit. It's me. I'm the guy. So he opens the air for the lid on the AirPods. It says, Luke's AirPods case charged 1% or whatever. And I go, okay. And he goes, well, now I got to make sure that you can play through them. And I'm like, what? Like, he just. It's so obvious. These are my AirPods. He just. It. They just materialized on the screen of my. Of my iPhone. I'm like, okay, what? And again, I'm not really mad at all this. I'm just. I guess bemused would be the term. I'm just.
Andrew Walsh
Just.
Luke Burbank
It's just funny to me because, first of all, I know I'm not doing anything I'm not supposed to be doing, but, like, I feel like we've proved These are my AirPods at this point.
Andrew Walsh
So he's, like, gonna start downloading all your pictures. Like that guy in the Cornflake.
Luke Burbank
He does that?
Andrew Walsh
The Chair Company.
Luke Burbank
Yes, he does that. Seriously, he's like, now you've got to prove. He goes, well, you've got to play something to go through them. I'm like, this really is.
Andrew Walsh
You know, I joke about that scene from the Chair Company, which you, me, and, like, two other listeners know that reference, but it really. The reason my mind went there is this feels like an invasion of privacy at this point. First of all, a little bit, like, literally, I get shy seeing people's lock screens when I see that they have loved ones on it, whether it's a partner or a kid or whatever. I'm always like, ooh, there's a little glimpse into a stranger's life that maybe is not for me. So I am so. I don't know, just a little bit nervous about people's privacy. This idea of, oh, now I need to. What if you were listening to some sort of erotica? And I don't need the Madonna album.
Luke Burbank
Although I was listening to something worse. Pod Save America, which is my version of erotica.
Andrew Walsh
Right? Yes.
Luke Burbank
So that was what happened. So he's like, you got to play something. And I'm like, okay. So I go into My Spotify. And I don't know, Like, I'm just. Like, I just need to play something that makes noise. So I hit. You know, the last thing I was listening to was Pod Save America. So. So I start playing it. But here's the thing. He still has the AirPods in the case. He has not actually thought to pull an AirPod out of the case. So what do you think happens when I start playing Pod Save America? Nothing comes right out of my phone. A speaker. It's just blasting. I'm just blasting Pod Save America in the lobby of the Good Time Hotel here in south beach because it's. And I'm just like. And that's also felt weirdly like, I'm not embarrassed of the politics, but I'm just like. I don't know, like you said, it's kind of personal and weird and like, hey, this is what I listen to when I'm making my own personal choices and I'm just playing it out loud to everyone standing around in the lobby. So then I hit pause on it again. I'm like, I think you gotta take the AirPod out. He's like, oh, okay. So he pulls the AirPod out.
Andrew Walsh
Now he's pulling out little devices that are in your ears again. Like, I'm not trying to make this weird, but I don't know, man. I consider earbuds, or whatever you call them, AirPods, to be kind of, again.
Luke Burbank
I don't know, private, personal thing, intimate.
Andrew Walsh
Like.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, yeah, they're in. They're sort of inside your body.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. This is, you know, this is weird. Does he start smelling them? He's like, I gotta smell your ear. I gotta smell the ear bud.
Luke Burbank
It was. Eventually we got. And by the way, when he pulled the AirPod out, it didn't. We just talked about this on the show last week. We were talking about the karaoke machine. It didn't pair immediately because I think it had been through a lot. So then I had to go into, like, a Bluetooth function, basically, and start to. To tell the phone, to not use the speaker on the phone, but in fact, to talk to my AirPods, which I did. And then as soon as sound started coming out of it, he said, okay. And he put it back in and handed it to me. But I was just like. That was so much more. So much more serious that I think it needed to be to just give me back now. I mean, I understand if, like, if the AirPods. If I came in and said, did anybody leave any AirPods here at the front Desk in the course of the last. Did anybody leave any AirPods in this hotel, including any of the rooms in the last two weeks?
Andrew Walsh
They may leave any $20 bills around precise 50.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, exactly. Did anybody leave any money, preferably a $500 bill, but also less, possibly. You know, like, I could see that they need to maybe somehow double check some of this stuff, but this was just so funny because it just kept going and it was like. I really felt like one. It showed up on my screen. I think we had proven pretty definitively that these were my AirPods also.
Andrew Walsh
What if it had died? You said it was down to 1%. What if it died before sound came out? Would he make you go charge it behind the desk? How old was this guy, by the way?
Luke Burbank
He was younger than me. I'm gonna say late 20s, early 30s.
Andrew Walsh
I had him for some reason. I had him as a younger guy, kind of. Was he like kind of a younger, kind of hip guy for the like?
Luke Burbank
No, he wasn't overly hip, actually. He was a sort of a. I don't know how to describe. You know, I want to be careful because I'm going to get into describing like, his. His. His. His size, ethnicity and level of coolness, which I don't really know. How do I judge any of those things particularly. But, like, he wasn't. He. By the way, he wasn't being kind of mean about it. That was the thing. That's why I never got mad. He wasn't like, he. He didn't seem suspicious of me. He just seemed to have a very, very precise. And also, by the way, 100% he was. This was a system he had made up. Up. Like, I don't know if he was making it up on the spot or if he made it up when he got the job of being like security guy of the luggage room or something, like. But definitely this isn't in the bylaws or the handbook of this hotel. If someone says that you found their AirPods, make them play pod, Save America through it. So you know it's their AirPods. Like, this was all just him freelancing, you know.
Andrew Walsh
Do you feel like it is somebody fighting the last battle? Do you think that this is the result of him getting burned in a way that he remembers? Probably.
Luke Burbank
Well, he might just be a bit of a hospital corners kind of fella. But also, I think, again, this is the other thing being that these were my AirPods, I'm glad that they didn't get given to the wrong person. Yeah, I'm glad someone Wasn't able to just go like, hey, give me that. And then they leave with my AirPods. Because the other thing that I learned in the seven minutes I didn't have them was I might mess without those AirPods. Everything. When I'm traveling, every. If I'm going to go on a jog, if I'm going to be on the airplane, if I'm be walking in the airport, if I'm going to be. This is kind of rude, but if I'm going to be in the lift. And I note that the person driving doesn't seem particularly interested in talking, maybe because of a language barrier. Like, in the few minutes I didn't have the AirPods and couldn't figure out where I'd left them, my entire life flashed before my eyes. I was like, how will I survive the next five days on the road without these things? Because they're critical to my experience.
Andrew Walsh
I don't think you would. You would buy an. You would buy another. I would.
Luke Burbank
And I was mad at myself.
Andrew Walsh
This.
Luke Burbank
You know how your mind can just go so far in such a short amount of time. It went from, where are the AirPods? I checked my pockets. No, they're not in the room. Oh, wait, did I leave? Because I actually switched rooms. My first room had a very odd odor to it, and so which apparently, they can travel through the vacuum of space in Miami. And they had traveled into that room. So I was like, did I leave it in the other room? So I just went. I was like, I've lost these AirPods. I'm gonna have to buy new ones. And I was furious at myself for doing this. I was like, I don't need to be spending an extra $200 or whatever AirPods cost these days. Like, through my own carelessness, like, I just went on a total journey in about three seconds with it.
Andrew Walsh
You're gonna go to this here museum of Ice Cream. What I want to do is take a virtual tour of your hotel and surro endings. But I. Obviously, you don't want to give that out over the show, so maybe. I mean, you're the host. I don't know. People might. We have Alicia down there.
Luke Burbank
Get in line.
Andrew Walsh
Actually, that's not. That's.
Luke Burbank
I'm looking for friends.
Andrew Walsh
But anyway. Or maybe Fort Myers, rather.
Luke Burbank
Museum of Ice Cream in South Beach.
Andrew Walsh
I had never heard of this before, but, yeah, it looks like it's there in Miami. I'm not sure if it's.
Luke Burbank
You know, what they do have is an art deco museum, which, if I did Get a free hour. I would actually check out. I'm very, I'm very fascinated with art deco architecture.
Andrew Walsh
Seems like this Museum of Ice Cream is like a chain. It's more of like of a place you take your kids. Have you heard of these things before?
Luke Burbank
I haven't. In fact, I've been to. Not the Museum of Ice Cream, but I did a TV story many years ago about what. Actually, you know what I have, Andrew? I have been to the Museum of Ice Cream in San Francisco. I just realized I have been to them. I have literally. Well, you know, one of them. I are one of these. They're basically like.
Andrew Walsh
Well, they're New York, Chicago, Singapore, Miami, Boston and Vegas. So you might have been in a different, different.
Luke Burbank
Well, no, I, I went. They used to have it in San Francisco.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, they used. Oh, that's shut down.
Luke Burbank
Because these are pop ups. So this is the whole thing. So I went to. We did a story about selfie museums about basically museums that are just kind of there to their, their pop ups oftentimes. And I mean, and it can be semi permanent or whatever, but basically like they are pretty much. So we went to. I went to this one on, on like, on like Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood called the Museum of Selfies, which was just like a bunch of weird sets they had built so you could take selfies. So it looked like you were standing on top of the Eiffel Tower or it looked like you were in an upside down room. And it was just like all things that were made so you could take selfies in there. And there was, by the way, Andrew, a lot of business going on. A lot of people were like, I want to go to the Museum of Selfies. And then the other place we went to was the, the ice cream museum when it, when they had one in San Francisco and they had all this stuff like they had a, like a, like a swimming pool that was full of like, like the sprinkles you would put on top of an ice cream. You know, like a, like an ice cream cone or something. You know, those kind of like candy sprinkles you might put on a Sunday or something. They had a whole swimming pool full of those.
Andrew Walsh
I'm looking at.
Luke Burbank
Oh, do they have that also in the Miami one?
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I have a feeling that they're all kind of similar. Yeah, it's like. You know, I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just. I don't like the idea of these things calling themselves museums, honestly.
Luke Burbank
Oh yeah, they're playscapes.
Andrew Walsh
They're like, they're. They're entertainment places to take your kids. Like, the.
Luke Burbank
The.
Andrew Walsh
The appropriation of the word museum for a strictly capitalist endeavor is a little bit irritating to me here.
Luke Burbank
And again, I can't overstate this. Like, these fly by night. Like, they are definitely, like, the kind of thing that will, like, with, like, pop up somewhere, and then they'll, you know, just. And they'll get all the money they can get from the. Either the local economy or maybe tourists, and then eventually, you know, this thing will become a cannabis store or something. You know what I mean? Like, it's definitely, like, very hermit crabby in my experience. Like, they'll. They'll kind of go into the, like, the sort of wreckage of a different retail project that didn't work out, and they'll kind of set up their whole little thing or whatever. But. So, yeah, so I'm good on ice cream museums, but I would check out the art deco museum. And yeah, other than that, I just. I'm gonna be. I'm actually gonna be working here, so I probably won't get to. I won't get to do too much leisure time. But whatever it is I'm doing here, Andrew, I will be doing it with the help of my AirPods firmly in my ears, listening to Pod Save America as I travel.
Andrew Walsh
Thank you, baby.
Luke Burbank
All right, let's thank some donors. These fine folks are donating their own money voluntarily. They're not spending it on terabytes of icloud storage that they're not really using. No. They're practicing good inbox hygiene, and then they're passing that savings on. They're using that money to help support tbtl. And we could not do this without folks like Kathleen and Alicia Aiken of Port Orchard, Washington.
Andrew Walsh
Thank you, guys. Now, Luke, you mentioned that this is their own money. We don't ask where the money comes from. No, just ask that it comes our way.
Luke Burbank
In fact, we asked not to know.
Andrew Walsh
Where the money exactly unless we know the better.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, this is a need to know basis thing, and we don't need to know exactly. Thank you, Kathleen and Alicia. Thanks also to Kailyn Murray in Clinton, Washington. Well, that's interesting. We got a couple of folks right out of the top there that are all kind of clustered around the greater Puget Sound area and the beautiful. I think Clinton is on. Clinton is up in on. Is it Whidbey?
Andrew Walsh
Let me look it up.
Luke Burbank
Clinton.
Andrew Walsh
And it's Port Clinton. It's Port. Port Clinton. A place. Or is that a place in Ohio or something?
Luke Burbank
I think that's probably where Jessica Fletcher solved a lot of.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, sure, yeah. Yeah. When she went on one of her junkets. Let's see here. It looks like it is on Whidbey, if I'm looking at the map.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, I did that right off the top of my head. That's impressive work for me. And impressive work from Kailyn, supporting the show. Thank you so much. Thanks also to Paul Randall, who's in Malin, Oregon.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, this is new. This is new information.
Luke Burbank
Yeah. Mallon, Oregon. I know about Mallon and Gets, which is the. Some kind of a fancy soap and shampoo brand. Whenever I'm in a. When I'm in a fancy hotel and they've got the Mallon and Gets, I'm pretty stoked about it. But I didn't know about Mallon, Oregon.
Andrew Walsh
It is. It is literally on the California border. I guess literally would mean that it might. It does not cross the California border, but it is about as close the. The Mallon airport bumps up against the state line.
Luke Burbank
I bet you that we had this conversation the last time. We were thanking Paul. Thanks again, Paul. Appreciate you. Thanks also to Sandra Vasquez, who is over there in Stanwood, Washington. Stanwood, Washington. Also parts of Stanwood, Washington. Touched the water there, the Puget Sound. So we're keeping with the theme going here. Also, we want to thank Tamara Stubblefield, who's in Oregon City, Oregon.
Andrew Walsh
Look at this.
Luke Burbank
I would highly recommend checking out Oregon City if you get a chance. It's a cool town.
Andrew Walsh
It sort of sounds like Oregon City would be. And this is. This is right on the edge of insulting to Oregon City. And I don't mean it to be, but it almost sounds like if you were playing a video game and it's supposed to take place in some city in Oregon, but they can't use Portland. They just call it Oregon City. Right.
Luke Burbank
Or like in the Powerpuff Girls, it's called the city of Townsville.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, is it?
Luke Burbank
Okay, that's where they are. I mean, that Addie and I were talking about that over the Thanksgiving times because she loved the Powerpuff Girls when she was a little kid. And it really holds up. It's a very funny. It was made by a guy named Craig McCracken. And it's a very funny, very kind of arch show in its own way. You know, that's meant for kids. But there's lots of jokes in there that are. That work for adults. Like, for instance, the city that they live in is called the city of Townsville.
Andrew Walsh
That's really good. Yeah. It always seemed like it was a little bit after my time, but everything you said scans from what I would just pick up, pick up on in pop culture, you know, it just seems really smart.
Luke Burbank
Totally. Like, it was one of those shows that if Addie wanted to watch it, I was not bummed. You know, she didn't want to watch a lot of bummerific shows, thankfully. But that was. That was one that I was like, yeah, I'm actually into this too.
Andrew Walsh
She didn't want to watch Gummoe as a kid. She was put on gum.
Luke Burbank
She's more of a Julian donkey boy kind of gal herself.
Andrew Walsh
Exactly.
Luke Burbank
Thanks also to Annette Melton, who is in Burien, Washington.
Andrew Walsh
Look at the specific Northwest representation today.
Luke Burbank
The PNW is really stepping up today, and we really do appreciate it. Thank you to all of our donors for making TBTL possible. I'm not yet an influencer like everyone else in this hotel. I can't make money by just walking around south beach and posting things on the grammar and brand deals. This is what we've got to do to make a living out here. Andrew and John Sklaroff and myself. So thank you to our donors for letting this be our job.
Andrew Walsh
I'm not an influencer. I just talk a lot.
Luke Burbank
Hey, that was pretty good.
Andrew Walsh
Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man. It's not from a female.
Luke Burbank
All right. We ran a little long because I had lots of stories to tell about. About AirPod security, but maybe tomorrow we can. Are you up? Did you watch the. The most recent episode of the Chair Company?
Andrew Walsh
Yes and no. We'll talk about it.
Luke Burbank
Okay. I watched it.
Andrew Walsh
I don't remember much. I was well into my cups by the time I sat down to watch Curiosity. Sir, you're gonna have to remind me of a lot of stuff that happens.
Luke Burbank
I will happily remind you of as much of it. I was not in my cups, but I. Also a little confused.
Andrew Walsh
Yes, yes.
Luke Burbank
But intrigued. Anyway, maybe we'll get to that on tomorrow's show. In the meantime, are there any emails or vmails that you would like to present?
Andrew Walsh
Yes. I'm gonna read a couple of emails today, and then we'll get into voicemails later on this week. Let's see here. Just. Oh, here. How about some syrup talk? Trying to say syrup properly instead of.
Luke Burbank
It's a hard word to say, syrup. I think I grew up calling it syrup.
Andrew Walsh
So do I.
Luke Burbank
Or so do I think that's probably wrong. It's probably syrup up.
Andrew Walsh
Did you. So let's see here. Did you watch the Sunday Night Football game?
Luke Burbank
I did not. I was watching the Chair company because remember, Sunday Night Football doesn't even start until like 8:30 or something.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. So I noticed that they were playing the Washington Commanders. Or the Commanders were playing. I should say. I'm trying to. It was Denver Washington.
Luke Burbank
Okay.
Andrew Walsh
And Marcus Mariota was playing. He was the QB for the Commander because their starting quarterback is out.
Luke Burbank
Jalen, thanks to the Seahawks.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, that's right. What's his name? Jalen Daniels. Kind of a bummer for that kid. But anyway, I know it was Chris Collinsworth and the other guy he's always paired with. I'm blanking on his name. But they were both really hitting the Mariota.
Luke Burbank
They were like doing Mike Tirico.
Andrew Walsh
Is that who's with Collinsworth?
Luke Burbank
Because it's Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.
Andrew Walsh
Okay.
Luke Burbank
And I think it might be Mike Tirico and Chris Collinsworth now because Al Michaels got the boot and he's now landed at Amazon, where Al Michaels and Kirk Herb street doing the Amazon on Thursday nights.
Andrew Walsh
Right. Yeah. I'm writing here. Part broadcast partner. Yeah. Mike Tirico. I guess I'm less familiar with his name, but the voices together are very familiar to me. I was cooking last night and just had Sunday Night Football kind of in the background. Let them cook. Stir fry edition. And I just noticed that they were both really. It was. I've always heard Marcus Mariota. You just say it that way, sort of like almost lazily.
Luke Burbank
Marcus Mario. That's what I've always said.
Andrew Walsh
And they were both. I feel like a note came down that he said, it's Mario Ta. They were like almost emphasizing the T at the end. Mario Ta. But. But doing something slightly different. I'm not quite nailing it because I can't do it. Like a little pause before the final syllable so that it really. It was really just sort of like it sounded a little bit more Italian than what I'm used to hearing. And I almost wondered if he sort of said like, it's pronounced this way. Like, you know, like my. I don't know, my. My name is important to me and what it represents. It just sounded like. I don't know.
Luke Burbank
When you hear like the two announcers suddenly saying it differently and. And very consistently, it feels like there was a conversation.
Andrew Walsh
It feels like there was a conversation. Although, you know, what I really like.
Luke Burbank
About Marcus Mariota is he seems like a very. I mean, this an extremely chill dude.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Like he is. Does not. Not that if people want their name pronounced correctly, they're unchill dudes, but just like it also like they, they did. I don't know if it was at Netflix or something, did kind of like their version of Hard Knocks, except instead of being about a team, it was called the Quarterbacks. And, and again, I don't know if it was Netflix or some network did this thing called the Quarterbacks, where what they basically did, instead of following a whole team, they just followed a number of quarterbacks through their season. So they followed Kirk Cousins. That's why my. My. My old TikTok avatar, if you will, was a picture of Kirk Cousins with all these brain stimulators hooked up to him. Because that was from that the Quarterbacks show they followed. They actually got Mahomes, they had Mariota, and they had Collins. Wait, what's his name? Cousins. And first of all, it was great television. It was actually better than Hard Knock because you really got a sense of these people. I also ended up just like loving all three of them. Now granted, they're not gonna, like, they're gonna be putting their best feet forward as, you know, as people. These, these, these quarterbacks, they know they're being filmed, so maybe that's not how they are in real life, but they all just seemed actually deeply likable to me. Marcus Mariota, though, it just the idea of him sending a note saying, you guys are saying my name wrong. Say it right again. Not that that's being extra. People get to get their names said correctly. It just. It's hard for me to square that with the guy that I was watching on that. The Quarterback show.
Andrew Walsh
This might be totally on me. It might. I mean, I definitely heard what I heard and I think I pointed it out to Genevieve as well, and she concurred. But it could be that I just have never been. I don't watch a lot of Marcus Mariota games. You know what I mean? Maybe they've been saying you don't watch.
Luke Burbank
A lot of teams that have.
Andrew Walsh
Have.
Luke Burbank
That are at their limit for quarterback. That's when you'll get a good. I mean, that guy is. Listen, you know, and it pains me because he's a University of Oregon grad. I believe he won the Heisman at Oregon, but he's been in the league forever and is still a, you know, a semi effective quarterback. I mean, it's a testament to him and his, his stick to it. Iveness, because, I mean, he's got to be like in his like what? Early 30s now, which is pretty old for an NFL quarterback.
Andrew Walsh
I got to get back to Hannah's email, but I gotta say, all right, today or Sunday, when I was preparing my coffee and hot chocolate for my pop up gig during what they call the early window of football games, I was just like, I just want to put something on the laptop while I'm here in the kitchen doing my cooking or whatever. And I was like, just, I'll put on the Browns game. And the Browns were playing oh, the 49ers. So I had some interest there too. So there's a little bit nostalgic, the Brownies to win. But we also want the Browns to win and they have a kind of a newish quarterb. I don't have to get into the whole thing, but I do want to say this. I was like, well maybe I'll just like crack the door a little bit. I watched in the course of like, I don't know, maybe, maybe like less than 10 minutes of football play, the Browns made two of the dumbest mistakes I've ever seen in football. And like the announcer. Oh, and this was the guy who has the husky voice who's kind of like we played drops of him all the time saying we have a streaker on the field, he's on the 10, he's taking off his shirt. Whoever that guy is, is. He's like, oh God. Like the announcers. It was like hearing announcers just disappointed in their son who they're always disappointed in. Like the one guy instead of letting.
Luke Burbank
It Al, like not Marv Albert, but Marv Albert's brother.
Andrew Walsh
Who's the guy? Who you know his name. I did want to say Alberts before too, but I don't think that's it. Here, let me.
Luke Burbank
If I type street, it's not Kenny Alberts.
Andrew Walsh
No, it's this guy. Oh wait, I have. Hold on. This isn't Albert. And a red shirt. Now he takes off the shirt. He's running down the middle by the 50, he's at the 30, he's bare chested and banging his chest. Now he runs the opposite way. He runs at the 50, he runs at the 40. The guy is drunk but there he goes, the 20. Anyway, it keeps going. Who's that guy?
Luke Burbank
I don't know who that is, but.
Andrew Walsh
I love CBS radio broadcaster usually I think but this was tv. So anyway, I'm all point is I'm like, well I'll just watch a little bit of this Browns. I'll root for the Browns or playing a Divisional rival of the Seahawks. But one guy, all he had to do, all this kick returner had to do is let the kick go out of bounds, but instead he caught it at the six yard line and he thought it was a pass or something. He kept both of his toes in, so he pinned his. He did a herculean thing to keep his own team pinned at the six. Then I don't know, they go three and out or something because they're all the way there. They are able to stop the 49ers with like a huge sack. A huge sack. 49ers punt again. It bounces off of his chest and they recover it at like the 10 yard line. The Niners, I believe it was the same guy. I wasn't paying tons of attention because I was cooking, but I'm pretty sure it's the same guy. Two special teams plays in a row just, just as. And not, not like, oh, that's a tough break. But just like the most dumb headed moves you can make in that particular position.
Luke Burbank
In the words of Jarvis Landry, it's contagious, bro.
Andrew Walsh
It is still contagious, man. All right, anyway, that I feel bad. That was just too much football talk. I'm gonna try to get this music going again. Okay, we're back in Doogie mode. Let's all just settle.
Luke Burbank
Everybody get back in Doogie mode.
Andrew Walsh
Hannah says. Hey, guys, I'm a little late on syrup talk. I wasn't time banding. I was just avoiding writing an email, lol. So for syrup or syrup? I also grew up not having real maple syrup. You were talking about this, Luke. I was blown away to know that there's a syrup that isn't maple syrup. That is just called pancake syrup or table syrup. I'd had it before. I just never paid attention to the difference, I guess. And Hannah says for syrup. I grew up not having real maple syrup because it was fancy. Fancy and expensive. And as an adult, I really don't enjoy it most of the time. But I also grew up not even having table syrup like log cabin or Mrs. Buttersworth. That was also fancy and expensive. What we had was water, and that's it. Now what we had was water boiled with white sugar and brown sugar, equal parts with a little bit of maple syrup flavoring in it. I can picture those little bottles. And that is my favorite thing nowadays. I'll add a little vanilla and a pinch of salt too. A little bit of orange or lemon ext. Maybe a little butter flavoring. But I don't like anything Else. So here's Hannah out here making homemade table syrup. Yes. With just like two parts. Equal parts white sugar, brown sugar, and water.
Luke Burbank
I guess not to. Let's. How do I. How do I frame this? How do I phrase this? Like, I. You know, I'm always talking about how hard Scrabble my childhood was, but we did not make our own syrup.
Andrew Walsh
We had.
Luke Burbank
There was a jug of it somewhere. So, you know, that's. And again, I bet you anything Hannah was getting a better result because it was, you know, probably more artisanal and better, you know, making it yourself, but that. Didn't even know you could make that. So that's. I guess I had. I had syrup privilege, Andrew, and I need to honor that. I need to be realistic about that. I had. We grew up in a household where we did have syrup.
Andrew Walsh
Well, this is, you know, the show where I think you. You told me. I think this was you telling me. Maybe it was a listener about a tradition. You had a little. Little food tradition, for lack of a better word, as a kid that I'd never heard of before. And then, like, I don't know, out of the blue, I saw Genevieve making this one morning. I'm like, where are you getting this from? And she's like, I always did this. I'm like, 10 years into our relationship. What do you think it was?
Luke Burbank
Peanut butter in malt o meal?
Andrew Walsh
No, it was taking toast and buttering it and then just sprinkling cinnamon on top, I want to say. Or cinnamon.
Luke Burbank
Cinnamon sugar toast.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, Like, I never did that. We would sometimes, like, maybe. Again, maybe this is the. The privilege talking here, but, like, sometimes my family would buy cinnamon raisin bread.
Luke Burbank
That we would get that sometimes.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, that's. That's really good. I haven't had that in forever. But this. Just adding, you know, cinnamon sugar to toast, I had never heard.
Luke Burbank
Think about this. Think about what? The cereal? Cinnamon toast crunches.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. No, you're just.
Luke Burbank
A serialized version of. My mom made that on Thanksgiving morning. It was so funny. I know we. We don't have much. Much time here, and we're. I don't know if we're still responding to Hannah as message or not, but, like, we had a little. There was a little dust up at our house, a little argument, if you will. Not even argument. I was a little terse with my mom, and I regret this on Wednesday night because when I rolled in, there wasn't a lot of food. Like, there was some dinner. There was some leftover beef stroganoff, which is not something that I typically would probably eat. And then there wasn't a lot of other food. I guess the food was going to show up on Thursday when the Thanksgiving meal came around, but I was hungry, and Addie was actually kind of hungry, too. And I think I kind of could have been nicer to my mom about being kind of like, hey, why don't we, like, why does this house never have. Like, it has food in it? Like, it has things that have calories in them. There's a bag of Bugles. There's, like, four Ritz crackers left. There's some leftover beef Stroganoff. But there's not, like. I don't know, just the kind of basic staples that I would sort of of keep in my house. If people were coming over to my house, maybe I'd have a. Like, a thing of that sliced cheese and some crackers and some hummus and just, like, things that you could kind of whip together to make a little, you know, a little plate of something. And I could have. Again, I apologize. The next day, I was a little. I was a little bit more terse than I should have been because it made my mom feel kind of bad, which I feel bad for. So then the next morning, there's still no food, really, in the house because, again, nobody's shown up now with the, like, mashed potatoes and the this and the that. I haven't gone to the store yet to get all the stuff that I usually do on Thanksgiving.
Andrew Walsh
Morning.
Luke Burbank
Morning. My mom, it's like I'm making toast, and she makes this huge pile of toast, which she's toasted in the oven. And it's like cinnamon sugar toast, so it's buttered. And then she's put cinnamon and sugar on the toast. And I'm still a little bit, like. I don't know how to describe it, but I'm a little bit like, I'm feeling sort of superior in some way. Like, I, as an adult, have organized my life so that if people come over, I have real food for them to eat. They don't have to eat, eat Bugles exclusively or just some random toast product. So I was like, I'm gonna hold out on this toast. I'm gonna wait till I go to the store and get some real food, and then I eat. Like, I'm gonna have one bite of this toast. So I have one bite of the toast, and I'm like, this is the best thing I've ever eaten in my life. And I finish an entire piece. I'm like, I'm gonna have half of one more piece of cinnamon toast. I eat half of it that I eat the other half. I don't know. I might have eaten four pieces of cinnamon toast.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, you end up at the boarding. You're at the bottom of. Of the chutes and ladders slide with a big, full tummy because you ate too much.
Luke Burbank
And my face just smeared with cinnamon and sugar. Exactly like. Like I was all being like, why doesn't this house have food? And I'm like, this is the best food I've ever eaten in my life. So there you go. Lesson learned. All right, that's gonna do it for today's episode of the show. But guess what? We're gonna be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for y'. All. So please, if you can join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Monday. Stay warm if you're anywhere that's not Miami, and stay cool if you are here. And we'll see you tomorrow with more imaginary radio. Please remember, no Mountain too tall, and.
Andrew Walsh
Good luck to all. Power out.
Date: December 1, 2025
Hosts: Luke Burbank and Andrew Walsh
In this Monday edition of TBTL, Luke checks in from Miami’s South Beach, sharing vacation envy amid his work trip during Art Basel week. The episode features a signature blend of lighthearted banter and relatable life hassles: from epic email box battles and tech woes, to messy Thanksgiving tales and the travails of retrieving lost AirPods from a too-diligent hotel staff. Holiday family rituals, nostalgia for 80s Christian crossover music, influencer culture, and Miami’s unique vibe also weave through the show.
"Everyone is in relax mode here, and I’m just like… I couldn’t really be in less relaxed mode.” (29:13, Luke)
“I always assumed it was Latin… I was just accustomed to this idea of Christian music being the main pop culture music of the time.” (22:06, Andrew)
“He goes, 'Let me see if your phone recognizes them.'... Then, 'Well, now I got to make sure that you can play through them.'” (39:54, Luke)
"How are we not all living here during this… season, my friends? I'm in Florida on December 1st, and it’s as advertised." (01:01, Luke)
“Here I am getting a bill from Apple every month for all this storage space I’m not necessarily using.” (10:40, Luke)
“I tease too hard… I saw somebody having a good time teasing a kid and what do I gotta do? I gotta say, ‘yeah, they're bringing the cop cars… fire hoses and handcuffs…’ You're going to jail for life!” (16:47, Andrew)
“They’ll give you a glass of champagne at 8 in the morning but haven’t vacuumed the rugs on the 6th floor in what would appear to be a very long time.” (28:55, Luke)
“He goes, 'Let me see if your phone recognizes them.'... ‘Now I got to make sure you can play through them.’ ...I was just blasting Pod Save America in the lobby.” (40:37–43:17, Luke)
“Within a minute of me putting the karaoke machine down... full on karaoke party is ensuing. My mom is singing. Abe… is immediately latching onto the voice modulation functions and he’s beatboxing.” (17:19)
“Everyone looks like they might be about to start filming themselves on their phone going live at any moment.” (36:58, Luke)
“I’m not an influencer, I just talk a lot.” (56:34, Andrew – tongue-in-cheek callback)
True to TBTL form: silly, self-deprecating, and warm. The show is a casual, honest celebration of daily foibles and oddities, full of nostalgic tangents, inside jokes, gentle ribbing, and affectionate reflections on family and friends. As always, it’s equal parts banter and slice-of-life documentation, with both hosts displaying a keen sense for poignancy amid the goofiness.
This episode is a classic example of TBTL’s unique alchemy: turning the mundane details of modern life (email, travel annoyances, holiday chaos) into comedy and communal comfort. Whether or not you know the hosts personally, you’ll feel you do by the end.
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The episode ends with the usual TBTL gratitude, shout-outs to donors, and playful riffs on cinnamon toast, football, and syrup science, with plenty of tangents left for tomorrow’s show—proof that this crew can turn even lost AirPods into podcast gold.