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Luke Burbank
That's funky.
Andrew Walsh
I like that. Thank you. Yes.
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or technician)
Yeah, that's a fun card.
Luke Burbank
Where does the music come from?
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or technician)
There's a small chip in speaker set that goes into the back of the card.
Andrew Walsh
Is it a cd?
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or technician)
No, it's more like a chip and speaker set that we. It's very small, and it's about the size of your thumbnail. And we just put it right inside.
Andrew Walsh
The back of the card.
Luke Burbank
Like headphones?
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or technician)
No, this is a computer chip that's devoted really to one function only. The playing of the song when we open the card. And then I guess you could say its second function is turning off at this point.
Luke Burbank
Like a Walkman.
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or technician)
No, it's not. Not like a Walkman at all.
Andrew Walsh
Tbtl.
Luke Burbank
Okay, stop.
Andrew Walsh
I feel like I'm watching regional theater, you guys. God, am I in the Cleveland Playhouse or something?
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or caller)
Let me ask you something.
Luke Burbank
Why would a review make the point of saying someone's not a genius?
Andrew Walsh
You think?
Luke Burbank
I'm especially not a genius.
Andrew Walsh
And for our viewing pleasure, I packed Terms of E. Then we're gonna bring it up with a little fried greens to the T. And then Hope Floats with Sandy B.
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or caller)
Yes. Does somebody die in that one?
Luke Burbank
They die in.
Andrew Walsh
All of this is making me sad. And I hate being sad. Hey, everybody, stand by. Here we go again.
Luke Burbank
All right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.
Andrew Walsh
Hey, is it too early? Good fish sandwich.
Luke Burbank
My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host.
Andrew Walsh
Bumping them gums, telling them lies.
Luke Burbank
Coming to you from the Matrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Colombia, where we're having a nice little momentary break in the wet weather and are, I would say, perfectly situated to bring you episode 4625 in a collector series.
David Burbank
Let the fun begin.
Luke Burbank
We are today. We didn't get to it yesterday, but today we are going to get to this list of five. The five best candy eating experiences, I.
Andrew Walsh
Believe, ever since I was.
Luke Burbank
That cone is real.
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or caller)
It tasted good.
Luke Burbank
Sure did. We're gonna talk candy today on the program and we're gonna talk to this guy, longest running co bro of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships.
Andrew Walsh
It's Don Bondarley, king of the Dirty.
Luke Burbank
Songs, also known as Andrew Walsh. Good morning, my friend.
Andrew Walsh
What does that young person say in that drop you just played? Not the.
Luke Burbank
I know you don't like it because it's too. So it's. It's that corn song, you know, I was trying to find. We were talking about trying to find something that tasted good.
Andrew Walsh
Ever since I. I was told that corn is real corn, it tasted good.
Luke Burbank
Ever since I was told that corn.
Andrew Walsh
Was corn, I just couldn't. I remember that. You know, I got a bad rap for that. This is probably an inappropriate time or maybe an accurate one to bring it up, but people are like you. I don't want to get into the accusation, but there were accusations of racism against me because I didn't find that. Oh, seriously, do you not remember that? That we got an email. I don't remember that part of the.
Luke Burbank
I just thought you were maybe being like anti cute kid. I didn't realize it was a racist thing.
Andrew Walsh
Yes. I literally accused of saying you like the white kid. Who doesn't say.
Luke Burbank
I would argue you like the white kid less.
Andrew Walsh
Well, the thing is, I don't dislike the corn kid whom we just heard. I am less enthralled with the series that that came out of, which is this guy who's like probably in his 20s or 30s going around basically doing a modern tiktoky version of Kids say the Darndest Thing. And my complaint with it had nothing to do with the adorable child who likes corn, for goodness sakes. My complaint was that it seemed like the cute kid accidentally saying something cute on television seemed a little bit different than a series dedicated to going around trying to get kids to say silly things so that then you can go viral for it. You know what I mean?
Luke Burbank
I see. So you don't have a problem with Kids say the Darndest Things or art link letter or something like that where they interview kids?
Andrew Walsh
Well, I just mean that this new ver that basically that thing went no. So I have no problem with any of that. You can make whatever content you want. But when we play on this show, a lot of tape of kids saying cute things, but it seems organic. I feel like this series, apparently cute was crawling around. Yeah, he did. Nobody was trying to get. He just. They put a microphone in front of a kidney and also he's white, so you like them. And then there's this other series with this guy with glasses who goes around and he's like, he's. The whole point is I'm going to keep asking kids questions until they say something goofy. And so I didn't feel like it was as organic as some of the viral stuff. It seemed like something that was trying to go or trying to go viral. And then it did go viral. You can see I'm losing ground here. I feel attacked by you and the listeners.
Luke Burbank
Well, this, sir, is a classic petard hoisting upon yourself.
Andrew Walsh
I know.
Luke Burbank
I don't know any of that stuff.
Andrew Walsh
I. I just email lives large in my head.
Luke Burbank
Ah, well, I could see why I. And I was kind of ribbing you, but I didn't realize, or I had, as we were now learning so frequently on the show. Maybe I knew it and forgot, but I didn't realize that that was the allegation. That's a kind of a serious allegation. And I wouldn't give you, I wouldn't give you grief on that. A, I know that to not be who you are, and B, I would also be stressed out by that allegation.
Andrew Walsh
Like, imagine me not liking a kid saying something cute because of his. Because of his ethnic background. Like, that is just like, not like.
Luke Burbank
Maybe gender, but not. Not race.
Andrew Walsh
Do you think that girls can be funny?
Luke Burbank
Are we gonna talk about candy today, my young friend?
Andrew Walsh
No, we're just getting started. Let's talk more about race.
Luke Burbank
Race tomorrow.
Andrew Walsh
Race and culture.
Luke Burbank
Five Candy.
Andrew Walsh
Today on tbtl, we talk about the intersection of race and candy.
Luke Burbank
Hmm. Tell me about this. I didn't realize, by the way, that we have. We're sitting on a trove, a trove of lists in general and particularly a trove of lists from my actual brother. Not only an unpaid producer on tbtl, but he's actually paying to play. He's donating to the show in order to be allowed to also help provide content. That's next level.
Andrew Walsh
I thought you were gonna say. Not only is he an unpaid producer for tbtl, but he's an almost unpaid producer for a very large radio station here in.
Luke Burbank
That also bothers me.
Andrew Walsh
Let me hashtag give David a raise.
Luke Burbank
All right.
Andrew Walsh
So, yes, so as I mentioned yesterday on the show when we were supposed to play this voicemail, but I went on too long, we were talking about how listeners have gotten into sending us lists of things, top five lists, specifically of various experiences that we have in life. I love it. It's. Keep on sending them. You can email me voice memos or if you want to leave a voicemail, you can email me andrewbtl.net that works. You can call our voicemail line at 20641. I like keeping this tradition going. And we're spending some time this week going through the many, many submissions that we've received. Many, many, as you said, from your brother himself, who sent us five, I believe. And this one was top five candy eating situations. So if you want without further Ado. I'll just start David's voicemail, and then maybe we do donors afterwards. That sounds like a good plan. Yeah. Love it. All right, sounds good, David, let's get started here.
David Burbank
How about top five candy? I don't mean five different types of candy. Everyone has their own candies that they enjoy. I mean the top five situations in which you're eating candy. These are really important to me. I don't feel like I ever grew up. I love candy. And let's start with number five, that being after party candy. You know, when you have a party, specifically, if it's around a holiday, maybe it's around Halloween or it's around Christmas, and you get some candies, you put them in a bowl. They're for the guests. They're for everyone to kind of grab as they go. They're never getting all eaten up. You always are going to have leftover candy. And then it's like, what do I do with this? Well, I eat it shamefully in a dark kitchen as I'm cleaning up the dishes after the party.
Andrew Walsh
Right.
David Burbank
And it's your little treat. You get the treat for hosting the party, and it's that candy number four.
Luke Burbank
Now, wait a moment, Andrew, because he's saying these are the best candies, but then he's talking about shamefully eating the candy.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, that's an interesting.
Luke Burbank
And I don't want to put my brother on blast here, but I just feel like I don't think there should a. I don't think there should be any shame around it. And although maybe that's his kink, I don't know. I mean, I know a lot about my brother. I don't know everything about my brother, but I would say that, like, maybe.
Andrew Walsh
What about secretly? Maybe not shame. Maybe shame is the wrong word there, but like, that idea of. So I do the same thing with sausage, basically after a party. I don't usually have candy out at parties, but if I've been grilling for a whole bunch of people and then they're all downstairs, like, Genevieve's entertaining our guests in the basement. Post dinner. Or maybe everybody's left. I'm now cleaning up, and I'm taking a chunk of kielbasa here, a little bite of bratwurst here as I'm wrapping stuff up, I do that. And there is something. If not. If not shameful, how about surreptitious or. Yeah, yeah.
Luke Burbank
So, yeah, not shameful, but secretive. But secretive in a way that it's a fun secret. It's a secret. You're keeping between you and the kielbasa, you and the candy that David is talking about.
Andrew Walsh
Yes. Me and my kielbasa have so many secrets. Okay.
Luke Burbank
Bet you do.
Andrew Walsh
Top five sausage experiences. All right. Back to. Back to candy, right?
Luke Burbank
Don't miss it.
David Burbank
You get the treat for hosting the party and it's that candy number four is free candy. What I mean is that candy that is in a bowl at really any place. The doctor's office. The any.
Andrew Walsh
What kind of doctor is giving away candy, by the way? The dentist giving away a bit of honeysuckle.
Luke Burbank
Dr. Feelgood.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
David Burbank
Kind of reception, front desk area. They'll have candy. And this is not a holiday thing. This is year round. Oftentimes these places will have candy and that's a little candy that you get for doing your appointment, for being there, working your stuff, doing your thing. You get a little candy as a treat. Third would be.
Luke Burbank
Wait one sec. Can we, can we talk about now you. The other day you had your free candy you got from Sweetwater.
Andrew Walsh
Yes. I was very jealous of you. I want to eat one now. Now that we're talking about, can I get one of these? You trust me enough to eat a candy?
Luke Burbank
Absolutely I do. I trust you implicitly. I would say that the best free candy that you get and this is less like usually at, you know, like a store or I don't know, a reception area and more like what they would put in the restaurant bill. But you know, those Andes.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. I'm wondering if that's going to be coming up. Okay.
Luke Burbank
Because I was going to say I in much the way that I say that the Subway Sandwich Corporation or whatever they're called now is keeping the Sun Chips company in business. I've never seen, I've rarely seen a Sun Chip outside of a Subway sandwich buying experience. I feel like restaurants are keeping the Andes mints business. You rarely see people eating Andes mints outside of a I just paid the check kind of situation.
Andrew Walsh
What about on your pillow? I feel like there was a time when you would find an Andes mint on your pillow at a hotel maybe.
Luke Burbank
But I feel like that whole thing has. They're too busy saving the whales now and not cleaning your room and not washing your. Your towels to. To come in and put a mint on the pillow. I can't remember the last time. Andrew and I stay in a lot of hotels. I can't remember the last time there was a mint on my pillow.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, me too. But you travel.
Luke Burbank
They should bring it back.
Andrew Walsh
How irritating. I know that we have listeners who hate it when we eat on the show is. Am I able to do my. This. This root beer barrel I'm eating is so good. I haven't had one of these in so long.
Luke Burbank
So flavor.
Andrew Walsh
Am I unbearable? Am I unbearable to listen to right now? Should I spit it out?
Luke Burbank
The unbearable lightness of being here?
Andrew Walsh
I'm going to eat this a little bit more, and I'll let.
Luke Burbank
David, you sound like your normal amount of annoying.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, okay. Okay. That sounds good.
Luke Burbank
The good news is that that's the. You know, it's a. This is a level that's been set for.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, you want to hear. But I wouldn't say some funny tweets I sent out about 10 years, I don't think.
Luke Burbank
Oh, you want to hear about some funny tweets I. I sent out?
Andrew Walsh
All right, here we go.
Luke Burbank
I'll see your tweet and lower it by 1300.
Andrew Walsh
Here we go.
David Burbank
Third would be movie theater candy. Now, obviously, you have to get number one when you go to see the movies.
Andrew Walsh
Nope.
David Burbank
A quintessential part of movie going. And for me, the candy aspect of the movies is what is the candy that is going to last the longest throughout the movie? If I get a candy bar, I'm eating that thing immediately. That thing's not making it through the first trailer. What you have to do is you have to get the milk duds, the Skittles, the peanut M&MS, something that there's a large quantity of that you can kind of be munching on a little bit at a time. And that's so fun because then you also get. As you're eating the popcorn, you also get some candy, and you get to kind of mix and match. You can have a little popcorn, you can have a little candy. You can go back and forth. So number three is movie theater candy.
Luke Burbank
So.
David Burbank
So you.
Luke Burbank
Wait, you. I heard you. I heard you expressing your displeasure with that.
Andrew Walsh
My. I'm going to spit this out now. But this barrel got to the point, Luke, that you were talking about yesterday. It's got the little split in it. Little candy split. And it's hurting my tongue. You know what I'm talking about?
Luke Burbank
Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
All right, that's gone.
David Burbank
All right.
Luke Burbank
He spit it into a empty tissue box everywhere.
Andrew Walsh
I was going to. I was going to spit it into a tissue, but I don't have any tissues because my box is empty. So I just spit the thing right into the. Now that box can go away. That was really good, by the way. That. That root. It tastes just like root beer. I don't need candy in a movie theater. In fact, I have a question for you for people who do eat candy in movie theaters. Your brother mentioned eating a candy bar. Is that even a thing? I could only picture people eating, like, Milk Duds or those. Oh, I've eaten a Netflix driver.
Luke Burbank
I've eaten Nestle Crunch at a movie.
Andrew Walsh
Really? Just like, straight up. A candy bar. They sell those.
Luke Burbank
They sell candy bars. But I am with David on that, so I am a. In fact, I would say it's one of the sort of semi. Few times I eat candy is at the movie theater. And it's part of what I'm looking forward to. And I do the same thing. I get a popcorn. I get. I told you I tried Milk Duds a while ago because I was seeing if I could reconnect with my youth. Bad idea. But I'll do like a peanut M and M or something. But I try to do something that I can sort of. Sort of parcel out, take my time with so that it's not all gone by the. By the. You know, before the. The movie even starts. Becca has a friend who has this. She does not allow herself to eat one bite of anything until the movie has started. That's.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, wow. That is some discipline. I can't do that.
Luke Burbank
No. I'll be. I mean, I've never gotten through an entire movie popcorn thing because first of all, the small is enough for me, but I always think, but what if I run out in there? So then I get the medium, and then between me and Becca, we might eat a quarter of that. I also get extra butter.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, wow. I'm.
Luke Burbank
But do you get extra butter?
Andrew Walsh
I don't get extra butter. I just get the. When they say, do you want butter on it? I say, yes. Or sometimes I ask for.
Luke Burbank
Maybe my problem is I ask for extra butter. So it's so rich, it's so delicious, but I can't get a lot of it down.
Andrew Walsh
You know, at the AMC that you mentioned recently on the show, the one that I go to at. At here. Here in Oak Tree, in my neighborhood, they have your own. You put the butter on yourself. They have a butter station. But I don't know. I don't think I overdo it on that. And also, I just might be more of a glutton or a glutton. I don't wait. But, like, I'm not interested. I think your brother hit on something, though, too. He mentioned, like, mixing it with the popcorn and getting it, like a salty, sweet experience. I'm not into salty, sweet experiences. I am into salty experiences first and foremost. And then on occasion, a sweet experience. I don't want those things mixed. I'm sure I've told you, get a Coca Cola.
Luke Burbank
What do you go for with your drink?
Andrew Walsh
Okay, that is a sweetness. That isn't.
Luke Burbank
No, no, that. Actually, I wasn't trying to burn you on that. I was just curious what you're washing it down with.
Andrew Walsh
True story. I am washing it down with again, if we're talking about the amc where I see a lot of movies because it's so close, they have one of those machines where you can mix and match a million different combinations. Graveyard. And so I do. I make a graveyard and I have a whole thing. You know, it's got to be a lot of. A lot root beer, a lot of orange, a little bit of cola. I usually skip the Sprite, although I got a listener telling me one time the Sprite is key there. And I definitely like some Mountain Dew or I think they have mellow yellow there. So I'll mix all of those together. Especially if Genevieve and I are not sharing. I don't think Genevieve goes in for the graveyard. So if we're sharing a soda, then I have to do something more conservative.
Luke Burbank
Gotcha. But no candy for you.
Andrew Walsh
No candy. Like, I don't like, like chocolate covered pretzels for that reason or chocolate covered nuts or whatever. Like, I like. I like my sweets over here. I like my salty over here. And so therefore, if I'm in a movie theater, I'm just going pretty hardcore on the popcorn and I'm getting a large and most of it is gone before the movie begins because this is how my doctor told me to do it.
David Burbank
Number two is a fun one for me. It's running errands, checkout candy. So when you're out running errands, you're grocery shopping, you're doing kind of whatever, and you're in the checkout aisle and you see those candy bars and you think, I've been running out and about all day I've been buying things that we need, doing all the things that I need, checking off my lists. I deserve a little candy. Maybe you're going in between two stores. You get a candy at one of the stores, and then that's for your ride to the next store. And that kind of gets you, keeps you going on your journey.
Andrew Walsh
Okay, so it sounds like a little break there. I don't think I've ever succumbed to that or whatever the word would be, or taken advantage of that situation. I don't think I'm candy forward enough in my life.
Luke Burbank
You mean the impulse buy candy?
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I've.
Luke Burbank
I've done that before because, yeah, I've been out running errands and I feel like I deserve a little sweet treat for this. That for me would usually be a Twix type of situation or a Snickers.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, interesting.
Luke Burbank
Okay.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I remember my. I did not have a candy bar until. Well, I was old enough to remember my very first candy bar. And I was at some sort of like, kind of really life. And because of that, that remains my favorite candy bar of all time. And most people, I think, disagree with this for their own taste, but it's three Musketeers. And I remember I was out with my friend Tony and his dad. And his dad knew somebody who ran like a fancy hotel somewhere in Cleveland, or maybe it was Akron or something. And so we took a little journey. I remember it was evening time and he said, bring your swim trunks because this place has an indoor pool. We weren't staying at the hotel. Tony's dad was just going to do some business or something. But me and Tony, for a couple of hours, kind of had the run of this hotel where we swam in this fancy pool. We ordered some sort of food that.
Luke Burbank
You made a friend named Tony?
Andrew Walsh
I made a friend.
Luke Burbank
Wait, his name was Tony? He lived in your throat.
Andrew Walsh
He kept saying, hello, Mrs. Torrance. And I was like, come on, Tony, you're supposed to be a real person. Anyway, I remember we got a little. We got some meal that came with a little mini bottle of Heinz ketchup. And I thought it was so cute.
Luke Burbank
Amazing. That's when your love of scale started, Luke.
Andrew Walsh
I never broke the seal on it. And I saved it for years and years and years until it started to be brown. Cause it was actually glass, you know, it was an actual small glass bottle of ketchup. And this would have been the 80s. And I loved it. And I kept that. And then after whatever we had for dinner, and I think we were allowed to go to the vending machine and buy a candy bar. And I literally never. Not saying I'd never had candy before, but I'd never had a full size candy bar before. And I got three Musketeers and then I just got locked in. That's my. That's my. Do you even go for a three Musketeers? It probably doesn't have as much.
Luke Burbank
I'm not crazy about the. Would you. What would you call the. You know, it's obvious. Chocolate on the outside. And what do you call the middle?
Andrew Walsh
That's what the nougat, maybe, right? Yeah.
Luke Burbank
I've never been a fan of, like. I like Snickers a lot more because I like. Is that caramel that's in the Snickers? Probably with.
Andrew Walsh
Yes. And peanuts and nougat.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, the nougat.
Andrew Walsh
The.
Luke Burbank
The all nougat of the three Musketeers. It was a little airy for me. It was a little kind of like. I don't know. I like something. It was. It just felt a little bit like. I don't know, it was biting into a very sweet, almost not marshmallowy, but you know what I mean? Like, listen, in a pinch, I've certainly. I've had a few three Musketeers, don't get me wrong. But. But, but if I have my choice of a few things, I probably. I think the first. My first candy bar memory ever that I remember buying was at Craigen's Pharmacy on Aurora at 77th and Aurora. And I remember it was a Charleston Chew and also. Which is in a terrible. Just a truly awful candy bar, I think. Really.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, really? I had my first one a couple of years ago and I loved it. It. Oh, really?
Luke Burbank
It was. I was literally like, I. I could. I remember asking the woman I had again that I remembered I'd never bought a candy bar before. I had some amount of pocket change. I didn't know how much anything cost. And I remember just picking up different candy bars and going, can I get this one? Could I get this one? Like, which ones of these are the amount of money that I have with me of whatever. I had 15 cents or something, 20 cents. And when she. When I pointed at the Charleston Chew, which was longer than the rest of them.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
And I was like, what about that one? She's like, yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, 100%. I want the most candy for my money.
Andrew Walsh
So was Cregans. And I know we've had this conversation before, but I'm looking at the corner again. Was Cregans where the. Where the new church is there? Or was it where the Aikido place is?
Luke Burbank
No, the Aikido place was Jack Roberts Lynwood Home Appliance. We won't be. I won't be undersold. And across was where the megachurch is now. Or I don't know if it's mega or not, but just the church.
Andrew Walsh
Mosaic Community Church.
Luke Burbank
That was Craigen's Pharmacy.
Andrew Walsh
That's Craig. I gotta remember that. That yeah. Okay. And that's again, not to go. Not to extend this too long, but that's, like, where you worked for a little bit. That's where the. The ill gotten nes came from, but then was returned. Right. That's all right there.
Luke Burbank
All of that took place in whatever that is. That church. Mosaic. Is that what they call.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, it's called Mosaic. I'm looking at the sign maps or.
Luke Burbank
Like, a denomination now because I know, seriously, I saw Mosaic somewhere else in America.
Andrew Walsh
I'm pretty sure that the E line, you know, the E line goes up and down Aurora, but it's. It veers away for a little bit kind of by Green Lake, and it kind of goes around this corner, exits Aurora, and then comes back and meets Aurora again for some reason. And I think it might be right on this corner because I can't tell you how many times at night I have been, like, looking up from my phone on the E line, where am I again? And then I see the giant sign for Mosaic Community Church.
Luke Burbank
Just when you see that, think of Verl and Wally. Those were the names of the pharmacists that I worked for.
Andrew Walsh
Okay.
Luke Burbank
And I'm pretty sure Molly was making sweet time with a. A single mom named Sandy who lived across the street from us and who. She once hired me to babysit her kids, and I did. And then when the kids, like, went down for a nap or were otherwise occupied, I did watch the movie Roadhouse.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Because I heard that there might be.
Andrew Walsh
Boobs in it, and I think there are.
Luke Burbank
And I feel like she got mad. I feel like I got in trouble. Something like she told my parents that I watched Roadhouse or something. I feel like that was a one and done situation. I was only allowed to babysit one time for her.
Andrew Walsh
I believe there is a. There is some lovemaking that takes place on a roof. I believe in that. In that movie, but I don't remember to what degree a young Luke Burbank would be able to see what he's looking for there. Anyway. All right, speaking of sweet, back to.
David Burbank
David, number one goes back to childhood. Let's be honest. I hope number one is the same. Number one for everyone.
Andrew Walsh
Do you think that. Number one. I'm going to make a prediction here. Do you think his number one is. You realize the actor comedian Martin Starr has his own line of gummy candies and you order it online.
Luke Burbank
Well, why do we even have to listen to the message now?
Andrew Walsh
I was just guessing. I just want to get. That's.
Luke Burbank
What.
Andrew Walsh
Is that what Your guess is too well, obviously. Right. Okay, okay.
Luke Burbank
But seriously, let's try. Let's think. Because I haven't. I haven't previewed this. I'm guessing you haven't gotten far either.
Andrew Walsh
Nope, I haven't. Listened.
Luke Burbank
What do we. He seems to think that this is the common. It's. Maybe it's gonna be Halloween.
Andrew Walsh
Maybe he says it goes back to childhood. I'm gonna say, well, I'm leaning more towards a type, and it's got to be an experience. I was wondering if dumb, dumb suckers come into play here. Like, where do you get free dum dums? And don't say TBTL when you're a kid.
Luke Burbank
You might get. Well, that would be. I do feel like that would be the doctor's office. Oh, it's a good point. Like, are we giving candy to children now? Maybe not anymore. Yeah, but I wonder if he's going to say Halloween, because that's also a kid thing.
Andrew Walsh
That makes sense. Yeah, it's got to be Halloween related. You're probably right. Okay, David, let's find out.
David Burbank
That's trick or treating candy as a kid. Specifically night one candy. This is the candy that is the first candy. And maybe some people, maybe this is final night candy. Maybe some people save their best candy for last. They eat sort of their candy, you know, they have it in a different order than me. For me, I'm at least going to eat some of my best candy on the first night after trick or treating as a kid. And so that candy is going to be Kit Kats and Reese's and all the good stuff. That's what I want that first night, and that's that there's nothing better as a kid than when you've just gone through all of the trick or treating. It's Washington state. Maybe it's raining while you're trick or treating. You come back, you have your pillowcase full of candy, and you start taking out some of the candy, you start sorting it, and you give yourself a few of the best ones.
Andrew Walsh
All right.
David Burbank
Those are my top five candies.
Andrew Walsh
Well, thanks, David.
Luke Burbank
Well, it must have been nice, David, because of course, I grew up in a version of our family where we didn't go trick or treating.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
So I can't even relate to this. I've only been trick or treating, and trick or treating is the worst for my interior rash. I've only been trick or treating one block from my house as a child. One time. Told the story a billion, billion times on many different TBTL episodes. But Just to say my trick or treating career was very short lived and so I can't relate to that, but it sounds pretty fun.
Andrew Walsh
Now. I never went trick or treating.
Luke Burbank
Trick or treat as a.
Andrew Walsh
No, no.
Luke Burbank
You lived in the country because we.
Andrew Walsh
Lived in the country. Like there was no. I mean, I can think that you could. My parents could have maybe driven us. I'm sure there were like some organizations that would maybe organize like group trick or treating activities or something. Maybe, maybe if my parents had driven me to downtown Valley City. But all that was in downtown was like a doctor's office attack shop and a bar shops. I don't even know. But anyway, maybe that's one of the reasons. I'm not that into Halloween, but we did have Halloween parties at school and we would get candy for that. And I will say, and this may be. I think this is somehow on brand for me, but I don't know exactly how. I think my favorite. My memory of like my favorite candies were actually non chocolate candies on Halloween. But the sweet tarts, is that what they were called? That small because it seemed like you were getting kind of like your Charleston Chew. It seemed like you were getting instead of one piece of candy, like about 20 pieces of candy. The tiny little discs that come in a little tube and then you kind of.
Luke Burbank
You chew on them and sometimes they're kind of tart though in the middle.
Andrew Walsh
They were tart but they were small. Right. They were like the size of a pill or something like that. But the very satisfying. And then when you would bite into them, finally, they would be like almost a cold feeling, sort of a refreshing cold feeling. I love those things.
Luke Burbank
What were the ones? I feel like there was two versions of. Was there two versions of Sweet Tarts? The kind that had. You're describing. I guess in order for them to be Sweet Tart, they'd have to be that way. I feel like maybe I'm confusing them with Smarties. I feel like there was a version of Sweet Tarts that were like a giant Smarties.
Andrew Walsh
I think this whole time I was talking about Smarties. Sorry, just didn't mess up. Smarties versus Sweet Tarts. Yeah, Smarties were the really tiny ones. Right. They were just a tiny little tube. That's what I was talking about the whole time.
Luke Burbank
Okay. Because I remember, I think it was with Sweet Tarts. I learned how to play poker when I was a kid. Although I don't know if we were playing by the right rules, but we use Sweet Tarts as, as our poker chips. So That's.
Andrew Walsh
You'd win Sweet Tarts.
Luke Burbank
So a sweet tart is like a chance in life.
Andrew Walsh
Is a sweet tart like the size of a quarter or something like that?
Luke Burbank
No, it's. It's also pretty small. It's like the size. It's. It's the size of, let's say a nickel.
Andrew Walsh
Okay.
Luke Burbank
Sweet tart. But yeah, no, it's as I remembered it. So they're almost like. Imagine the. Imagine a smarty, but just a lot bigger. Scale it up to the size of, let's say a quarter and make it thicker, and that's a sweet tart.
Andrew Walsh
Okay. Yeah, I was. I was talking about Smarties, not sweet tarts. My apology. That. That. My apologies. That must have been very confusing for you and everybody involved.
Luke Burbank
It was, but we got through it together, thankfully. But how will the donors respond is the real question.
Andrew Walsh
Let's find out. Thank you, baby.
Luke Burbank
All right, let's thank some donors. These folks are paying us not with sweet Tarts, not with Smarties, but with actual money, which we then use to buy Sweet tarts and Smarties. But that's our business.
Andrew Walsh
Do you remember there was a time there when some people, they didn't like us calling ourselves dummies instead of starting their emails with hey, dummies. Didn't some people call us, hey, Smarties? Or am I smarties?
Luke Burbank
Yeah, let's go back to that. I like. I think that was helping my self esteem.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I've really been dressed since then.
Luke Burbank
You know what? Actually, I'm feeling less shame today thanks to folks like Christine Hoff of Morehead, Minnesota.
Andrew Walsh
Hey, thank you, Christine. Appreciate it. Hope it's bearable there.
Luke Burbank
What do you think the weather in Moorhead, Minnesota is right now?
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. Rough stuff. Probably not.
Luke Burbank
Thanks, Christine. Thanks to Julia Morse of Beaux Arts Village, Washington.
Andrew Walsh
Nice.
Luke Burbank
Good old Bozarts Village. We love it over there.
Andrew Walsh
Yes. Love that you get to say that because I can never remember which letters are pronounced bo. It is a little bit tricky. Yes.
Luke Burbank
The Beaux Arts movement. Darren Malihi is in Oakland, California.
Andrew Walsh
Hey, I've only been to Oakland once, but I loved it.
Luke Burbank
Oakland is a really cool town. I really, really like it. I have been there a few times over the last few years. Once to interview Alanis Morissette, who lives in Oakland, California.
Andrew Walsh
Interesting. I was wearing my San Jose Giants hat yesterday and somebody asked me about it, and that was on the same trip that I was. That I.
Luke Burbank
What do you say. What do you say about, like, when someone says, oh, I like your hat because one of I Know, the thing with you and the hats is you have a concern around seeming like you don't know enough about the team. You're being a poseur. What can you. What do you say about the San Francisco or the San Jose Giants, rather?
Andrew Walsh
I don't say anything. I punch him in the throat and I say, don't you ever ask me that again. No, I mean, that one is easy for an airport because I bought that hat at a game, so at least I have a little. You know what I mean? I can just say, and you know, it's a minor league team. It's not even triple A. Right. It's like, I think double A, or possibly lower, is a very small stadium. So nobody's going to be quizzing me on who's in the San Francisco Giants farm system. I don't think so. I just said, you know, oh, somebody was like, kind of looking at me funny. And I was like, what's going on? He's like, I'm trying to read your hat. I'm like, oh, it's an S and a J. It's for the San Jose Giants. And he looked at me quizzically, and I said, they're a minor league team in San Jose. And I went to game once, and it was so much fun.
Luke Burbank
Nice. That's a solid answer.
Andrew Walsh
Yep.
Luke Burbank
I think Darren Malihy would accept that answer if that's so who you were talking. What about Charlie Trillis of Charleston, South Carolina? We call that the Nicholas Sparks zone.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, that's.
Luke Burbank
That's.
Andrew Walsh
We most certainly do.
Luke Burbank
From yesterday down there in South Carolina. Thanks, Charlie. Thanks to Jenny Dahl, who's in Burie in Washington.
Andrew Walsh
Hey, thank you, Jenny.
Luke Burbank
And then Patrick Reddington rounding things out today, coming to us from Citrus Heights, California.
Andrew Walsh
Love the sound of that.
Luke Burbank
Sounds perfect. This time of year.
Andrew Walsh
I was watching. What? I was watching the Postman Only Rings Twice the other day, and Becca and I saw that.
Luke Burbank
Saw that in the theater. Did you like the Hollywood Theater a year or two ago.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, that's funny, because I don't think I've ever seen it before, and I didn't really know much about it. It made me want to read the book. I hear the book is really good and I enjoyed it, but what I loved was just like, you know, it takes place in, I think, the outskirts of Los Ang. And so it's like just the casual fruit tree in the background. This is a black and white movie, too, but just the casual orange tree that is in. Remember, he's like. He's working at some like, kind of gas station slash. Yeah, you know, whatever.
Luke Burbank
I jogged past that gas station randomly in Santa Barbara and flipped out.
Andrew Walsh
Did. So did they kind of keep it looking like it did in the movie? No.
Luke Burbank
I mean, yes, it looks like it. I think it was actually, like, under construction. It wasn't operating, but, like, I ran. Now I'm gonna. Golly. Now I'm gonna. I'm sure that someone's gonna look this up, and I'm gonna be wrong. We were staying. Beck and I were staying in Santa Barbara. It's a couple of years ago. And we went out on a little jog, and we went by a service station. I said, doesn't that look just like the one from the Postman Always Rings Twice? Which we had, you know, seen in the theater. And she goes, it totally does. And then we looked it up, and I think it was actually the place, which was just a wild coincidence, because. Yeah, it's.
Andrew Walsh
The film was shot in Santa Barbara. Hey, I'm looking at Wikipedia. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. That says the 1981 film. We got to find the 1964 film and that. I don't know, the eight. The one in 19. Wait, you saw that. You saw the old one, right? Yeah, the old one. I'm sorry. The 1946. Did I say 64? 1946.
Luke Burbank
That was the one that we saw.
Andrew Walsh
Yep. And let me see here. I'm trying to figure out where that one was shot. Thank you. Certainly. The next.
Luke Burbank
Trying to back me up. Yes. Yeah.
Andrew Walsh
So anyway, I know that it was shot in Santa Monica. The. The. Or Santa Barbara, rather. Sorry, I spoke there as I'm trying to read. Let's see. Santa Barbara.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, Here we go. The next day.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, I'm looking at the plot, too. The next day, the three of them are to drive to Santa Barbara to finalize the sale of Twin Oaks.
Andrew Walsh
Yes.
Luke Burbank
So, yeah, I think we. I do think that in the. In the really old version, the 1946 version, I think that it's in Santa Barbara, too. It's right there, kind of along the. I don't even know. I don't know Santa Barbara well enough, but I know that we jogged by it. And I was. My mind was blown because we had seen the movie, like, two months previous.
Andrew Walsh
That would freak me out.
Luke Burbank
He was like, what are the chances that we are, without any planning, going past this service station that was in this movie that we randomly saw? That movie itself being from almost 100 years ago or 80 years ago.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I liked it. And Then I was reading about it later because I was like, why is it called that? There's a quick line at the. Like, literally the last moments of the movie, they drop the name of the movie in there, but it was not in the book. Do you remember the name of the author of the book, by the way? Because I was just reading about this. It's kind of an interesting story of Postman Rings Twice. I didn't realize that he was a pretty heavyweight. James Cain was his name. And he ended up being a pretty big heavyweight in, like, kind of west coast noir, like your Dashiell's Hammets in your Raymond Chandlers or whatever. I've never read any. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm about to reread the Dust, by the way. That's on my bookshelf or on my nightstand. But James came here when I moved.
Luke Burbank
To la, as one does, I think.
Andrew Walsh
Yes. That was the first book I read when I moved to la, too. No joke. Oh, my God, that's so funny. But anyway, I. I was reading. I was like, why is it called that? I watched the movie the other day, and then I found myself on the Library of Congress website. Luke, I just like to.
Luke Burbank
You know, we've got a listener who works there, remember?
Andrew Walsh
Oh, no, I didn't remember, but that's awesome.
Luke Burbank
I want. I think it's Nigel, and I think he was going to. Wait, no, no, not Nigel. Sorry. It's listener. I'm going to get there. We've got a listener. Harrison, I think. Who? Nigel and Harrison. Like, they could be brothers. These are my children, Nigel and Harrison. And I think he might work there and was gonna. He was, I think, gonna let us look at some golden tablets or something that was gonna.
Andrew Walsh
Was he gonna try to get TBTL into it?
Luke Burbank
Something like that.
Andrew Walsh
Anyway.
David Burbank
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, we gotta hook up with the Library of Congress.
Andrew Walsh
Anyway, the Library of Congress was going through a bunch of letters between James Cain and, I think, the original Knopf. I can't think of his name, but Knopf Publishing, right?
Luke Burbank
Alfred Knopf. Alfred Knoff.
Andrew Walsh
Alfred, yes. And they were going back and forth, and James Cain had not broken through yet. And he was broke as a joke. I think he was writing, like, little pieces here and there. But this was his, I think, his breakout novel, and it wasn't published yet. And the original name was something they didn't like, like Spaghetti and Meatballs or something. It wasn't that, but it was just like, Knopf didn't like it. And so they came up with so the publisher was pushing pretty hard on a different name. And he's like, no, I don't like that. I don't like that. And they were going back and forth, and he agreed to change the name, but he didn't like what the publisher was offering. And you can see the actual letters that they were writing back and forth. Like, we would fire off an email or a text today. These were very short letters, but they were sent through the post. And apparently Cain was talking to a friend of his during this process, and a friend of his was talking about the writing process and said, like, oh, yeah, you know, one thing I noticed when I was, like, kind of secluded and writing my novel or my play was the Postman always Rings Twice. In other words, if you don't ring, if you don't answer on the first ring, then the postman will come and ring twice before leaving. And he said, I love that as a name of a book. And then they were like, what is the. How does that tie in? It doesn't tie in at all. And he just basically liked the sound of it.
Luke Burbank
Just wrote it into the book, saying it.
Andrew Walsh
And then years. It sounds like kind of years later or sometime afterwards, when would ask him about it, it sounds like he sort of reversed engineered the meaning into the justice stands in for the postman in this case. So in other words, I don't know how well you remember the story, and I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't seen it yet, if it's on your list. It just did come out about 100 years ago. But the idea is he and his partner kind of get away with murder, literally, and don't serve justice for it. But then he accidentally kills his partner, and it truly is an accident, but he is found guilty of that because they think he did it on purpose. And so he's like, the Postman always rings Twice. Like, justice will eventually get you if they don't get you.
Luke Burbank
Because he gets away with the first crime.
Andrew Walsh
He and the woman get away with it the first time, but then he accidentally kills her. And it looks like they're gonna end up living, I don't know, maybe happily ever after. But then there's a real accident and she dies. And so I think that's when he barks out to the name of the. He's on death row. The. The priest has just given him last rights. Luke. Good movie.
Luke Burbank
It's a good movie, by the way. I did really enjoy it. It held my attention, too. I was wondering because, I mean, it's very old.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, but a lot of twists and turns, too. You think it's over, and then it goes on for another 45 minutes because the postman at that point had only rung once.
Luke Burbank
And we were promised two rings from the postman.
Andrew Walsh
Exactly.
Luke Burbank
And some movie candy.
Andrew Walsh
So thank you, David, for that.
Luke Burbank
Hey, thanks, bro. Yeah, I don't think you've heard the. The David Burbank always rings five times.
Andrew Walsh
That's right. We still have.
Luke Burbank
You heard the last of the lists from my bro. We'll probably. We'll kind of hear some different lists over the next few days and have all kinds of different stuff going on, so.
Andrew Walsh
Please.
Luke Burbank
Maybe tomorrow, Andrew. Well, I don't know. I don't know how much of my. I got a situation going on that I might. It will torpedo our entire show tomorrow, so. So maybe I'll hold off on it anyway. I'll decide.
Andrew Walsh
Okay.
Luke Burbank
Well, all right. The Burbank always promotes twice. I think it's the takeaway from this. Hey, thanks for listening, everybody. We'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio, so please do join us for that. In the meantime, have a great Tuesday, take care of yourselves, and please remember.
Andrew Walsh
No mountain too tall, and good luck to all.
Unidentified Speaker (possibly a guest or caller)
You know, there's something about this that's like. Well, it's like you're expecting a letter that you're just crazy to get, and you hang around the front door for fear you might not hear him ring. You never realize that he always rings twice. What's that? He rang twice for Cora and now he's ringing twice for me, isn't he?
Luke Burbank
That's about it.
Andrew Walsh
Power out.
Air Date: December 23, 2025
Hosts: Luke Burbank & Andrew Walsh
Main Theme: The Top Five Candy-Eating Experiences & Digressions on Nostalgia and Accusations
In this lively and meandering installment of TBTL, Luke and Andrew—two longtime pals—dive into a listener-submitted Top Five list of the best candy-eating scenarios, courtesy of Luke's brother, David Burbank. What starts as a straightforward ranking of candy experiences quickly spirals into fun tangents involving childhood memories, listener feedback, and the inevitable intersections of candy, nostalgia, and even race. The episode is laced with the show’s signature self-effacing humor, heartfelt asides, and a comfortable banter that veers from the granular details of candy consumption to classic film trivia.
Playful, nostalgic, a bit neurotic, and openly self-deprecating. The hosts weave listener engagement, retro pop-culture, and personal reflection into a cozy, meandering rhythm that’s both comforting and infectiously fun.
Final sign-off:
Luke: “The Burbank always promotes twice. I think it’s the takeaway from this… In the meantime, have a great Tuesday, take care of yourselves, and please remember—”
Andrew: “No mountain too tall, and good luck to all.” [40:07]
For fans and newcomers alike, this episode is a lovely slice of TBTL at its most quintessential—a meandering meditation on the sweet (and salty) details of everyday life.