#4644 Whole Llama Love

Summary

TBTL #4644 "Whole Llama Love" – January 19, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode departs from the usual format as Andrew Walsh hosts solo, joined by his partner Genevieve, due to Luke Burbank being "under the weather." The show is split into two distinct halves: the first exploring Andrew and Genevieve's current hobbies, creativity, and the meta question of hobby gifting; the second half features a personalized movie-quote quiz, where Andrew replaces a word from favorite movie lines with "banana." At its core, this is a cozy episode built on playful banter, nostalgia, and unique mutual interests—plus plenty of good-natured ribbing.

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I. ‘Niceties’ — Hobbies, Crafting, and Giving Gifts

[04:15–21:50]

A. Genevieve’s Sewing Adventures

• Genevieve just finished sewing “an adorable little black wool mini dress” (08:08). She sources quality remnants from Seattle’s “Recreative” store, extolling the virtues of upcycled and affordable fabric for crafters.
• She describes sewing as both stress-relieving and absorbing, relishing both the present-mindedness of crafting and the tactile nature of DIY pattern assembly (08:27–10:41).
  • “It turns off that part of your brain that's looking at the clock or thinking about the future. It's a way of being 100% in the present.” — Genevieve [10:11]
• Conversation turns to hobby-collecting over 25 years: embroidery, bookbinding, knitting, etc. (11:15–12:56).
  • Genevieve confesses to “failure closets” (Simpsons reference), but with less permanent abandonment—most crafts are paused, not discarded.

B. The 'Hobby Gifting' Debate: When is it OK?

• Andrew remembers commenting that “no one wants to receive embroidery as a gift,” which Genevieve claims nearly killed her hobby ambitions (12:56–13:44).
  • “No one wants to receive your hobbies as a gift.” — Andrew, paraphrasing himself [13:00]
• They riff: Some creator gifts (art, photography, digitized 80s commercials) are only meaningful to the creator and not always appreciated by the receiver. The most contentious example—Genevieve’s never-realized embroidered llama—becomes a running joke (15:15–15:36).
• The lesson: Know your audience—sometimes gifts should be for yourself alone (16:27).

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II. Andrew’s Digitizing Obsession & FX Channel Nostalgia

[17:41–46:47]

A. Trawling Old VHS: Preserving Ephemera

• Andrew explains his recent hyper-focus: digitizing 80s-90s VHS tapes—especially local commercials and TV ephemera that otherwise “would never exist” if not preserved (19:56–21:50).
  • “History is made up of all of these little things. Cultural history is all of those things.” — Genevieve [21:18]
• Their mutual love for archiving, nostalgia, and saving cultural flotsam is evident, with ties to Genevieve’s background in public history.

B. The Wild Early Days of FX Network

• Andrew describes tapes he found from FX’s early days ("Breakfast Time" morning show, "Personal FX"—an Antiques Roadshow-style show), where the format was a mix of live cable TV energy, MTV irreverence, and audience-driven ‘90s telepresence (24:16–26:04).
  • Antique appraisers would evaluate folks’ treasures live—awkward remote interviews included (29:16–35:00).
• Favorite moments:
  • Deadpan evaluation of a boy’s “Our Army At War” comic: “I think about maybe three to five dollars, I would think, at this particular point” [34:12].
  • The nervous guest with a “cursed” cast-iron horse, mistaking it for a dog bank: “Well, I brought this little cast iron dog bank or—excuse me, it’s a horse.” [37:01]
• Production comparison: Both hosts note how these awkward, unpolished, almost “hostage video” segments highlight just how artful Antiques Roadshow is (35:18–35:40).

C. VHS Gold: Vintage Digital Photography Segments

• Clips from "Personal FX" demonstrate presenters awed by $700 digital cameras as tools for archiving, with calculations about the “savings” gained versus buying and developing film (38:42–46:30).
• Fashion and makeup of the 90s on display—Genevieve gleefully "notes the Mary Janes" (41:57), and critiques the “washed out” camera tech on-air.
• The conversation is equal parts affectionate roast and fascinated nostalgia.

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III. The Movie ‘Banana’ Quiz: Couple Comfort Cinema

[53:00–93:12]

Andrew unleashes a quiz for Genevieve, where he’s replaced a word in a favorite movie quote with “banana” and she has to guess the replaced word, source film, and context. Each answer opens a deep well of shared memories, affection, and comedic analysis. Below, highlights by question—with notable moments and best quotes.

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Quiz Highlights and Notable Quotes

1. “I’ve invented a pill that gives bananas to ex-girlfriends.”

• Movie: Kids in the Hall: Brain Candy
• Original: “I’ve invented a pill that gives worms to ex-girlfriends.”
  • “What's positive about that?”
  • “Well, it’s a pill that gives worms to ex-girlfriends.” [54:44–57:43]

2. “I see salt and pepper. Is there a banana?”

• Movie: What About Bob?
• Original: “Is there a salt substitute?” — At the infamous dinner scene.
  • Genevieve: “One of my very favorite movies.” [59:18]
  • On the Dreyfus–Murray dynamic: “Their energies are so perfectly, like, in conflict. And it's like the best movie about conflict.” — Genevieve [60:24]

3. “Banana means hello and goodbye. Goodbye.”

• Movie: The Malibu Bikini Shop
• Original: “Aloha means hello and goodbye.”
• Andrew: “It was a network for men... very low-budget, 80s and maybe 70s and 80s movies and a lot of TNA.” [63:51–65:48]
• Genevieve is amused by the near-absence of actual plot.

4. “I’ve never hung on to that part of the banana, you know, that part underneath.”

• Movie: So I Married an Axe Murderer
• Original: “I’ve never hung on to that part of the helicopter, you know that part underneath the thing where it lands...”
  • (Once Genevieve hears Alan Arkin’s voice, she identifies it instantly!) [66:44–68:01]

5. “I know he can get the banana, but can he do the banana?”

• Movie: Joe Versus the Volcano
• Original: “I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?”
  • Andrew extols the genius of giving Dan Hedaya a minute-plus to riff on four phrases. [69:05–71:56]

6. “Your work is bananas and underdramatized. You lack any sense of structure, character, and the Aristotelian unities.”

• Movie: Addams Family Values
• Original: “Your work is puerile and underdramatized...”
  • Context: Wednesday critiques her camp director’s Thanksgiving play. [73:33–75:32]
  • “It’s not banal... it’s puerile!” — The tough word stumps even Genevieve momentarily.

7. “Well, the entire civilized world knows that all closets are made of bananas.”

• Movie: Overboard
• Original: “Cedar.”
  • “I love that movie. … It's about human slavery.” — Genevieve [76:30–76:32]

8. “I’m not a banana, you can’t just order me.”

• Movie: Working Girl
• Original: “I’m not steak, you can’t just order me.”
  • Genevieve launches into a delightful, passionate mini-lecture dissecting the plot. [77:34–81:58]

9. “How many times do I have to tell you? I’m not depressed. I just need bananas.”

• Movie: The Couch Trip
• Original: “I just need space.”
  • Andrew finally admits only recently warming up to this Dan Aykroyd/Charles Grodin movie; Charles Grodin’s comedic sad-sackness receives high praise [83:44–86:48].

10. “Where has your head been lately? Did you have a hard banana last night?”

• Movie: Sleep Easy, Hutch Rimes
• Original: “Did you have a hard sleep last night?”
  • Obscure, only-viewed-once, but Andrew bought the DVD for Genevieve. [89:33–90:51]
  • “I don't even remember one line…” — Genevieve

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IV. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “I feel like sometimes on this show, I come off as too likable. That's kind of an ongoing problem with me.” — Andrew [17:04]
• “If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing. You just stick that guitar in the closet next to your shortwave radio, your karate outfit and your unicycle, and we'll go inside and watch TV.” — (Simpsons quote drop, as Andrew reflects on cycling through hobbies) [12:31]
• “The only thing that matters to me in Minecraft is animal welfare.” — Genevieve [19:32]
• “Who would do that? [run a show with user-submitted content]” — Genevieve on IMDb’s quote section and, meta-ironically, the TBTL voicemail segment [91:41]
• On archiving: “...history is made up of all of these little things. Cultural history is all of those things.” — Genevieve [21:18]
• On Joe Versus the Volcano: “They basically give Dan Hedaya, like, four things he can say...in any order. Each one is more irritating than the last.” - Genevieve [71:54]
• On Overboard: “The chemistry is, like, absolutely off the charts. Leaping off the screen. I just can't be mad at Overboard. I'm sorry.” — Genevieve [76:58]

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V. Notable Segment Timestamps

• 04:15 – Andrew introduces the structure; Genevieve’s sewing project and crafting
• 12:56 – Debate about handmade gifts and when they are (not) appreciated
• 17:41 – Andrew’s new old-VHS digitizing project
• 24:16 – Discussion of early FX "Breakfast Time" and "Personal FX" shows
• 34:12 – Comic book kid appraisal (“three to five dollars”)
• 38:42 – 1990s digital cameras/craft archiving segment
• 53:00 – Movie quote “Banana” Quiz begins
• 69:05 – “I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?” monologue from Joe vs. The Volcano
• 77:34 – “I’m not a banana, you can’t just order me!” and deep-dive on Working Girl
• 89:33 – “Where has your head been lately?” clue from Sleep Easy, Hutch Rimes

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VI. Overall Tone & Listener Experience

This episode is a loving tribute to the in-jokes, shared media touchstones, and low-key joys of a long-term couplehood, all through the absurd lens of homemade quizzes and obscure pop culture. The vibe is gently anarchic, heavy on comedic banter but with a warmth that makes every tangent engaging even for new listeners.

The highlight reels—awkward VHS gems, “banana” quiz, and debates about hobbyist self-indulgence—make this a quintessential “not for everyone, but perfect for some” TBTL.

Power out.

Transcript

[A]

Hi, I'm Genevieve Telford Warren.

[B]

Can you describe for the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what it is that you do for a living, Ms. Telford Warren?

[A]

Sure. I am a social media brand ambassador for myself from my own account and for a third party account as well, which belongs to my dog, who's a pet, who I do also brand negotiation deals for him as well. And I do DJing also for party and events and corporate and personal and public. And I do also certified. I'm a lash tech also, but I haven't really done that in a while, but I'm still certified to do it. And I also just do negotiating brand deals for my own account as well, and commercial acting as well, as well as modeling and some acting as well. That's great. TBTL. Started from the bottom. Now we're here. Started from the bottom. Now the whole team here. Six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch. Young money militia. And I am the commissioner. Oh, boy. Who keeps putting Twizzlers in the fridge? I told. Is it Sarah?

[B]

Crystal.

[A]

Crystal does. She likes them. Okay, well, Crystal, you and I are going to have another Twizzler talk. I'm sorry, but when I hear an undeserved compliment, it makes my ears want to throw up. Oh, your ears are always throwing up about something.

[B]

Wait, what?

[A]

So what was the exact question?

[B]

I. I. Don't worry about it.

[A]

I'll move on. It's all fine. You're both little troublemakers. You're both huge in Japan. You probably have a lot to talk about. Go keep things light. Don't bring up your divorce. Well, hello, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of tbtl. This is, of course, the show that's too beautiful to live. Everybody calls it garbage. Most people call it a problem. We call it our challenge. My name is Andrew Walsh. Hanging out with you today. And in a weird headspace because I got a note early this morning from my co bro, Luke Burbank, telling me that he is under the weather today. He says he's so sick he barely has a voice. Luke does not usually take sick days, so I believe him. Should I? Considering that it's coming off the end of a sports weekend in which Luke and I were out there in the streets celebrating. I mean, in the street. Maplewood. I think we're in Maplewood celebrating together.

[B]

Maple Leaf.

[A]

Maple Leaf. Oh, by the way, we. Hello. We should never, ever turn on the guest mics before we are ready to introduce Andrew.

[B]

I cannot allow a slight misspeak to go unremarked upon you know that.

[A]

No, no, this is good. Here's the deal. Usually when I'm hosting the show without Luke, I try to put together kind of a little bit of a planned intro with drops and everything. But today, I got so excited producing the show you're about to hear. I've been in the studio cutting tape, adding my voice to tape in ways you guys are gonna find exciting and potentially tingly. But because of that, I'm going into the show, into this intro, not knowing what I'm going to say. I must. Genevieve, can you back me up? Scatterbrained.

[B]

You're scatterbrained. Yeah. Your eyes have that sort of deer in the headlights look like anything could come out of your mouth.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

It's anyone's guess, including you.

[A]

So let's try to get some of the important stuff out of the way. My name is Andrew Walsh. I don't go to court. I don't get traffic tickets. I'm a good boy, and that's not my arena. My name is Andrew Walsh. You're listening to tbtl. Luke is out. Genevieve is in.

[B]

Do you have any idea who I am?

[A]

I'm a verified Yelp complainer. Hey, Genevieve. Welcome to the show. Hi, Andrew. What a mess. Right off the bat. But I think we got. Did we take care of everything we need to take care of?

[B]

You're the expert.

[A]

Expert.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Intro. Do people know who you are?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

You're my. You're my life partner. You're. You're the apple of my eye.

[B]

Co homeowner.

[A]

A co host on. After these messages. I think we said that. That's about it. That's about it. Anything else?

[B]

Co cat owner.

[A]

Yeah, we do have a cat together. Future co dog owners. But we don't have a dog picked out.

[B]

What, a resume.

[A]

That's just the plan.

[B]

I'm a lash tech.

[A]

A lash tech. Of course. Yeah. So, Vivs, let's just jump in right here and talk about what we're going to do today on the show. So I want to hear what you've been up to. You're always working on some projects. We're going to hear about that. But then after we get those niceties out of the way, and I'll tell you what I've been up to. You've been upstairs in your sewing room the past two days. I've been down here in my studio with my VCR the past two days. We'll trade some notes about what we've both been working on.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But then the reason everything is so scattered today at the top of the show is because the second half of the show is amazing. I've put together a quiz.

[B]

Yeah. Always backload the.

[A]

That's what they say. You want to just, like, totally isolate the listeners at the beginning.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Make them feel like they.

[B]

Break them down.

[A]

Break them down. Make them beg for decent content.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Then you come in the back half.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And you're like, listen, this is what we could do if we tried. And that's what we're gonna do.

[B]

This is your reward for eating your vegetable. That's why they put dessert at the end of the meal.

[A]

That's right. So I have. I have a bunch of tape that I pulled from movies and a very specific kind of movie that you and I like. I describe these as movies that Genevieve and Andrew like to watch while playing Gin rummy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know if the rest of the world describes them that way, but that. You know what I mean?

[B]

Is there no handy acronym for that?

[A]

They tend to be 90s, sometimes 80s and 90s movies that we've seen before. They've worn a bit of a groove into our brains and spirits. It's like. It's like a groove. Exactly. And I think it's gonna be a pretty easy quiz, but there are some audio elements that I worked too hard on that I'm gonna play for you, and we'll get to that in a little bit. First, though, the niceties. What have you been working on up in that sewing room of yours?

[B]

I finished minutes before we started recording. I finished a really cute little black mini dress that I made. I found. There's this great store for crafters in Seattle. I want to recommend it. It's called Recreative Seattle. Recreative. There are two. They have two locations. The one I go to is in Greenwood. It's this teeny little hole in the wall store, but they kind of like, absorb crafting, like, free donated craft materials that people have, you know, don't need anymore.

[A]

Maybe they'll accept them. I mean, they have a whole section of just, I think, paper clips in the back, but. But they wouldn't accept my box full of expensive.

[B]

Well, they said they would think about it if you were willing to come in and be grilled about it.

[A]

They said I had to make an appointment for a donation and they would go through it. And they seemed very uninterested in having me come.

[B]

Well, all I can tell you is that when I go there, it is especially, you know, in A post Joanne Universe. They have fabric remnants and sometimes it's nothing special, but once in a while you will find such a treasure there. And I found one such treasure. I found two yards of really high quality black wool, like kind of suit, suiting weight wool, a little heavier maybe. And it was perfect for like a really cute like model, like little mini dress. And so I got a pattern from Etsy, I think and I spent the whole holiday weekend, which I am still on. So I'm volunteering.

[A]

Yes, thank you, by the way, it is a holiday too. Another reason we could be a little suspicious of Luke's motives today. I'm so sick.

[B]

Well, he really believes in Service and the LED, the legacy of Dr. King.

[A]

That is true. He is, he's. Today is not a holiday for him. Today is a day of service. So anyway, I've been spending servicing his hangover. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Luke never, very rarely takes time off.

[B]

But I spent the last two days cutting and, and measuring and figuring, remembering how to do invisible zippers, which is just a nightmare. But it was all worth it because today I finished this adorable little black wool mini dress that I'm wearing with like knee high boots. Very cute.

[A]

You came in here and you did a little spin for me. Yeah, it looked good.

[B]

So I'm excited because I've been so.

[A]

You know your patterns, you just go on Etsy and you buy them.

[B]

Yeah, there's a lot of different ways to get patterns. I belong to Seamwork, which is like a sewing community. I think I pay like a fee every year for that. I can get some free patterns there, but I also will just go on Etsy and kind of put in what it is that I want. And usually you can find what you want. And the cheapest way to get patterns is they send you a PDF file, you print it on your own, then you cut up all the paper and glue it together, which in itself is an arts and crafts project that I enjoy. Like it's no skin off my nose to be gluing and pasting and cutting. Like that's half the fun. And you can do that while watching almost anything on television.

[A]

Almost anything.

[B]

Tehran, which is very. I've been watching Tehran, which is very subtitle heavy. My Farsi is getting really good. But you do have to be able to watch that with your eyeballs. But yeah, anyway, so I cut out all these pieces, I cut out all my fabric. I remembered how to do invisible zippers. And the end result is a product that I'M really, really happy with.

[A]

Nice. And it's done now. It's like very close.

[B]

It's 100%.

[A]

If you weren't done, I don't know if you would be in here. Because there's something about a project like that when you get really near the end of something just to put it down, you can't. I feel like this is something like my, My. Let's call them hobbies. Let's be generous and call them hobbies.

[B]

Their hobbies.

[A]

My hobbies. But even, like, if I'm playing something like Minecraft maybe wouldn't fit into this one. But like, when I'm doing something that's more digital in nature, but I get really obsessive compulsive about it. I'm like that. It's like I can't put it down. That's why I end up staying up until 3 or 4 in the morning. You get into this different headspace.

[B]

Oh, that's what I love about sewing and hobbies in general is. And crafting is that I. It. It turns off that part of your brain that's looking at the clock or thinking about the future. It's a way of being 100% in the present. And I think that's like why I rec. Why I love hobbies and what I. Why I recommend I pick up hobbies all the time. Like, I have probably. How many hobbies have I had in the 25 years we've been together?

[A]

I mean, well, sewing is different. Sewing has.

[B]

Well, I think I found it with sewing.

[A]

Yeah. You've. You've. You've advanced further in your craft and you've stuck with it.

[B]

I tried book binding. I left for a while.

[A]

I did do book binding.

[B]

Book binding. But, you know, like, I learned how to do book binding. And then I was kind of like, well, they're sort of like, not. I mean, I'm sure there. I'm sure this is no offense to the master book binders of the world. I'm sure there's quite a lot to that craft. But, you know, I can only make so many blank notebooks for friends and family before I'm like, well, I feel like I've sort of tapped out what I'm gonna get from this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Knitting. You know, I haven't picked up my knitting needles in forever, but I hope spring's eternal because they. All my knitting supplies, like, live. I know where they live. They live in my. One of my craft cabinets. Not the wooden one, but the metal one. You know, I've. I've just had a lot of hobbies over the years.

[A]

It reminds me of the Simpsons tape that we played on the show. I think it was maybe just on Friday. About the closet. This is different.

[B]

Oh, you do my little paintings.

[A]

What's that? Oh, you used to do little paintings. Almost like three dimensional little paintings that some of them hang on our walls. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I can't find it. Oh, yeah, the failure closet. This is what I'm looking for. Hey, how come you never play your guitar anymore? I'll tell you the truth, dad. I wasn't good at it right away, so I quit. I hope you're not mad. So come here. Of course I'm not mad. If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing. You just stick that guitar in the closet next to your shortwave radio, your karate outfit and your unicycle, and we'll go inside and watch tv. What's on? It doesn't matter. I love that. That does not describe you. Yours is not a failure closet.

[B]

I. Yeah, I mean, I've. I picked up and put down a number of usually kind of craft. Craft type projects over the years, but I do own. During the pandemic, I got like super obsessed for about. For a hot minute with embroidery until you told me that nobody wants to receive embroidery as a gift. And it really, really poured cold water all over my dreams of becoming a master embroidery.

[A]

I don't think that's what I said exactly.

[B]

It is almost literally word for word what you said. No one wants to receive your hobbies as a gift.

[A]

I said hobbies? Yes, generally speaking.

[B]

But you were referring in the specific.

[A]

I don't even remember.

[B]

It was about my embroidery.

[A]

I remember this conversation. I did not even remember that that was about embroidery. But what were you embroidering? Because I do remember and I almost brought this up to let the listeners weigh in on this. Except I know I'm just going to get beat up in the comments. Like I don't even know if I want the listen because of course they're going to take your side on this. But I would say that there are certain things that people pick up as hobbies and then they create something that is fun to share and useful for another person. But there are other things that you make as a hobby that you got to just sort of say to yourself, this is my hobby. This is for me.

[B]

What are some good examples of things that are not for other people but just for the hobbyists?

[A]

The stuff that I do, I digitize TV commercials. I wouldn't give as a gift.

[B]

Oh, you wouldn't give someone a thumb drive? You wouldn't give them a YouTube link?

[A]

I wouldn't give them a thumb drive with a bunch of commercials from the 80s and 90s.

[B]

And you think that's equivalent to receiving a hand embroidered piece of.

[A]

I don't. I mean, it depends on what it is. And I believe. I can't remember the specifics of what launched this, but I remember you were going to give somebody as a gift something that was like. It was a little.

[B]

It was an embroidered llama.

[A]

That's what it was. Oh, that does sound cute. Yeah, maybe I picked the wrong battle on that one. I just mean generally speaking, not everything that we make as our hobby necessarily is a good gift sometimes.

[B]

Other than thumb drives full of digitized content. What's another good.

[A]

Well, I think you do have to. And I think I learned this from you. I think you have to be a little bit careful about giving away anything that would take up a lot of space on a wall. If you're a photographer or a painter or anything like that. If you know the person. And I'm somebody who fancies myself a bit of an amateur photographer and I love doing it, but I wouldn't presume for somebody who, you know, except for a very, very small number of people, I wouldn't presume that they want to put my work on a wall. And if they don't, then they got this thing that they got to throw in the closet or something like that. So I do think that sometimes a hobbyist needs to understand that the hobby is for them. That was all I was saying. And that it's not always just like a.

[B]

You just happened to say it as I was talking about doing an embroidery llama. It was just.

[A]

I don't remember the llama. Honestly, you know me, I love. Where'd that llama end up? Did you give it to somebody?

[B]

I don't think I ever made it. I was too. My hopes were dashed.

[A]

Yeah. I love the idea that I can.

[B]

But guess who's getting an embroidery llama now?

[A]

Actually, I kind of wouldn't mind one. That's why I'm subject that that's what started this conversation because I'm kind of like, no, actually embroidered llama. But wait a second, I thought embroidery is. So you don't mean like a plushy llama? Isn't embroidery like a flat piece of.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Well, we have one canvas and then you sew a design into that.

[B]

Yeah. So you know, in our kitchenette we have a little. It's like a little still life of, like, hanging plants on a piece of, you know, white linen or canvas or whatever. And it's just threads that are sewn to make it look like, you know, it's in our kitchen. It hangs downstairs.

[A]

Yeah, at our kitchen.

[B]

That's embroidery.

[A]

That's embroidery. And I made that as is the little thing that your. That your brother gave you that says, speaking of Yelp, I think he made.

[B]

A little sign, cross stitch, perhaps, which is like a sort of a subcategory, but it's related.

[A]

And listen, as you say that, I'm thinking about the specific listeners who I used to follow on Instagram, who I know that these are their hobbies, and they make beautiful, beautiful work. I'm not saying it's never a good gift. I'm just saying as the hobby. I'm just. As the hobbyist, you need to ask yourself, did I make this for me for the experience of doing it, or did I truly make it as a gift for somebody else? And is this what this person wants, or is this what I want to make and give them? And is it more of a gift to yourself? All right, it's just a question to ask. I'll put together, like, a worksheet on it. Great.

[B]

Yeah. Just sort of a checklist that you should always ask before you give somebody a gift from your heart.

[A]

I feel like sometimes on this show, I come off as too likable. That's kind of an ongoing problem with me. So here's my gift to you, Genevieve. I'm gonna give you this little screen here so you can share. I've always wanted one. No, you don't get to keep the tablet. You get to keep the memories of what I'm gonna show you on this tablet. Because my hobby lately has been going through these VHS tapes that I found at a garage sale or various garage sales, I guess, and digitizing them. And I kind of go. Your sewing hobby has remained pretty consistent, at least for the past.

[B]

I've been doing it for about two years, two and a half, without long breaks. Yeah, I just.

[A]

It.

[B]

I mean, for one thing, it is. There's nothing like having an item of clothing that you envision and you make it, and it fits your body perfectly. And as I get. And I love learning. And like, every sewing, every time I sew something, I learn something new about, like. Like some technique or something. And so it really is such a satisfying. To me, the feeling of learning something new is the most satisfying feeling. And there's just there's no equal to, like, learning in the. In the process of doing something. It. For me, that's how I learned the best.

[A]

For me, I feel like my hobbies kind of come and go or my passions. I don't even know if you want to call it a hobby. I guess I'm pretty consistent with darts these days. I don't like to go more than a couple of days without tossing darts here in my basement. And so that might be the exception. Yeah. But then the things that I do behind a computer, whether it's, you know, like I said, I do like certain video games, just silly games like Minecraft, but you can get really obsessed with in the open world and. But then I'll put down Minecraft for an entire year and just be like, I don't. And during that fallow period, I'll actually think to myself, I think I'm just done.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, the idea of logging into Minecraft, you know, during certain cycles just seems so ridiculous to me. It's like, why would I do that? It holds zero appeal.

[B]

Yeah. Like, who would ever do this?

[A]

But then it's insanity. You'll get a little trigger. Whether you see whether it's actually. It's not even usually a promotion or an advertisement. It's just something else. Or I'll sit down and be like, oh, it'd be fun just to start a new world. Or whatever happened to that thing? I'll just log in for a second.

[B]

Are my horses too crowded?

[A]

Are my horses too crowded? That's Genevieve's thing. When I create these little farms in Minecraft, the only thing Genevieve cares about is that I'm not over packing the stables or the little.

[B]

The only thing that matters to me in Minecraft is animal welfare.

[A]

That's right. And so I'll go through periods where I'm like. With the digitizing of tapes, it can be even more so. Even though it's something that I'm a little bit more. Again, I wouldn't use the word proud, but something that is actually seems like less shame. Less shame again to go back to the Simpsons. But it is something that I'm. I feel like I'm preserving and sharing both on YouTube.

[B]

I think that, like, yes, I think your digitization of these old. These preserving of ephemera and the way that you do it with your, like, love of sort of like the archiving. The archivist in you and your love of. I do love archiving and, like, preserving and really, like. And record keeping and I, you know, I did my, My. My master's degree all those years ago in public history. And I always think of, like, how important in the same way that, like, the people who do Wikipedia are doing.

[A]

The Lord's work, you know, like the Internet archives.

[B]

Yeah, the Internet. People who like you and you are contributing to this. Who are in this world that we're in where things are increasingly like media disappears all the time. Like, and especially from like a pre digital era.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. That's increasingly. I would say more. It's this era of the 80s and 90s where people had VHS tapes but nobody was actually up, you know, like kind of uploading and saving TV shows.

[B]

I think what you're saving and the ephemera especially, like somewhere is every episode of, you know.

[A]

Mr. Belvedere.

[B]

Mr. Belvedere. Right. Or like some. Some stupid sitcom that only even had one season somewhere in some dusty room that exists.

[A]

It's probably released on DVD at some point in the.

[B]

Yeah, but there are certain things that some of the, like commercials and promos.

[A]

And things and anything that's live that.

[B]

Was live, that if you don't grab it off this VHS tape and put it on YouTube and save it and make it searchable, it's just never going to exist. And does that one thing matter? No, but date. But like, history is made up of all of these little things. Cultural history is all of those things. Right. And it all to be. To be interesting and to be helpful and to teach us anything down the road. Every little piece of that cultural history actually does matter.

[A]

Which brings us to where we are today. Most of my digitizing is of commercials because you. And I have a podcast about commercials after these messages. It's a passion. And also I feel like that's the bigger ephemera when I grab these tapes. Sometimes it might just be movies taped off of television. And a recent example would be Rebel Without a Cause. I have some tape that somebody who I never met, you know, recorded Rebel Without a Cause off of some either local channel or cable channel, but here locally in Seattle, at some point, I bought that tape at a garage sale. I'm not going to digitize that copy of Rebel Without a Cause that's obviously present, but in between are the commercial breaks and the little moments where a local newscaster might come on and say, we're going to have more on the weather coming up at 11. Those things were never saved. A quick little live promo for the news. Those are true ephemera and still remain that way.

[B]

That's how I feel about the Gary. I've been watching Gary, sorry. Larry Sanders show, the Garry Shandling parody talk show that was on in the 90s. And one of the things we've both been enjoying about it is that whoever recorded it did so off of some. Was it like a Canadian?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Channel or British channel or something British or Australian? Something like that.

[A]

I think it's Australian, actually, now that I think about it.

[B]

And at the end of every episode of Larry Sanders show, they say, like coming up is David Letterman and his guest is Paula Abdul or whoever. And it's just kind of fun to be like, in this one moment in time, you just get a glimpse of something.

[A]

Yep, that's exactly, exactly what I love. And so mostly I focus on commercials, but I did get a big grip of tapes from some family that loved effects programming back in the mid-90s. Now, I think I've talked about this on the show before, but I don't know if people would remember. It's a. It's become a bit of an obsession of mine because I have so many tapes of this. When you think of the FX network now, you think of them creating new programming, right? Like Atlanta, I believe, was an FX show they've made. Well, like the Americans and that stuff was fx. They also, I think, you know, are a good place to find good movies to watch, you know, fx. We know what FX is now today. But when it started, and I only learned this through this project, Project FX popped up in like the early to mid-90s, I want to say. And it was like a combination of a lot of the programing was like a combination of Good Morning America and MTV and has this very. Mtv.

[B]

Uncomfortable bedfellows, you would think.

[A]

Weird, right? But like they had a show that was called Breakfast Time. And that was my first. The very first tape I popped in was an episode of Breakfast Time, like a four hour morning show. Very chatty, but it all takes place. And this is for the whole network back then, basically, fx, the network bought some sort of a house or a studio that they converted into looking like a house with all these different rooms right on the edge of Central Park. And they would do these shows out of the house and sometimes they're like milling about in what looks like a kitchen, or they could do cooking segments in the kitchen, but then they could go hang out in the dining room or the living room or whatever. And it was. The fourth wall was never there. You always saw camera people in the background. They were running around. They would go over To a bunch of people going through letters or emails at a desk. But like email is early back then. So like they don't even have a. Like A. @fx.com it's like at Delphi reach us FX personal [e-mail] or whatever. The Internet was so new and you could fax in your questions, but they were leaning so hard into audience interaction in a, in a kind of a very early digital way. They were breaking ground on that. But it was also corny but, but.

[B]

A little postmodern in the sense of like breaking like no sense of the fourth wall. Like totally like very high concept with that big house that like everything takes place in. Inside this explicitly, you know, staged space, but that they've tried to like recreate all of the, the elements of your day. And it's, I mean it didn't become like a standard or anything, but I really appreciate the high concept, big swing of it all.

[A]

And the host, one of the hosts of Breakfast Time was Tom Bergeron, people know, and Lori Hibbert, I don't know if she went. Lori Hibbert maybe was a Canadian personality who hosted the show with him between 94 and 96. And Tom Bergeron, what is he best known for? America's Funniest Home Videos. Hollywood Squares. Good morning. Oh, Good Morning America. So that kind of thing. Do you know that name? If I were.

[B]

I know then yeah, I was gonna say I think. I think America's Funniest Home Videos would be my. My most. Would have been my first guess for him.

[A]

Yeah. And so that was the morning show, Breakfast Time. But they also had a show in the afternoons, I'm assuming called Personal fx. And whoever I got these tapes from was especially obsessed with personal FX. And again, this only aired from 94 to 96, I want to say. So this very specific timestamp of it and Personal Effects was like Antiques Roadshow. They're like, we're going to do our kind of MTV esque take. And when I say mtv, there is no music involved, but just sort of like kind of 90s. Yeah. Candy hipster Y vibe or whatever. And when I first got these tapes, I was going through it, I found that interesting, but I wasn't really capturing a lot of that because I was like, I just want the commercials. I can't digitize this, all of these tapes.

[B]

But lately I'm only one man.

[A]

I've been needle dropping a little bit and just isolating little bits. Because first of all, one thing that changed is I've started posting some of these little clips to TikTok. I've never been a big TikTok person, but I think maybe I miss Instagram. It's funny that I ditch Instagram because of ethical reasons and how I feel about Mark Zuckerberg, but. Oh, I'll hop over to TikTok.

[B]

Whoever's running TikTok, I'm sure, is a.

[A]

We probably share a worldview Stand up guy. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, so I've been kind of posting. There's a lot of kind of vintage VHS community on TikTok. Hannah and I were talking about this on the Spotless podcast that'll post later today. And anyway, so I've been posting some of this stuff and I can't post it all because I feel like I will lose some of my 100 followers on TikTok if I. But I do not mind boring you with this, Genevieve and the TBTL audience here. I want to play for you a little clip just to give you a sense of it. The people that they have on. So imagine them, they're kind of. Again, this is like Antiques Roadshow. So they have some of their guests coming into the studio, slash, living room, slash whatever. They're doing this in this house. But then they're also really big into, like telecommunications, sort of. And so they often are talking to people on tv. So let's just picture two hosts, two expert, like antique appraisers or something like that.

[B]

But also keep in mind that this, this, the Antiques Roadshow. I do think this show gives you an appreciation for how good Antiques Road show is, because this, these people are.

[A]

Not ready discount the people that they have on. So what they do is they bring some people into the studio, but then they have what they call their FX Road warriors are like their correspondents who go out and then they'll always have somebody in somebody's like, home. Like, there's one that was like yardstick collector, right? Or like whatever.

[B]

I have every, you know, so was there one that's Garfield or is that something that. Am I conflating? I did a. I'm either conflating personal effects with an episode of I think you should leave or there was, oh.

[A]

There was a big Garfield sketch. And I think you should leave the Jim Davis home where they have a intervention for an addict, but it's in a Garfield home. Anyway, putting that aside for a second, I want to share with you a couple of these things because the people that they bring into this. So some of the people are here, but then sometimes they're literally sitting In a living room, talking to a television where their correspondent is somewhere else in America interviewing somebody, maybe in their apartment or their home, looking at their collection. And it's amazing how they didn't seem to have any. This sounds really rude to the people who they bring on, but they all look like hostages making, like, a hostage video, sort of. They all look so nervous and they're scared to talk. And there must be something about the process of the producers bringing people in. They just didn't make them feel comfortable enough. And it's hilarious because they're all there together. So you'll see the guy who's ready to show off his collection of, I don't know, baseball cards, whatever, in the corner, and he's just sort of sitting in a living room chair, looking a little bit lost with his cane, leaning up against his, like, armchair while they're talking to the comic book boy on a tv. Here's this comic book kid, and I feel so bad for this kid. And what I love is these appraisers have to tell this kid that his comic book isn't worth shit. And one of them, the guy breaks the news to the kid kind of nicely. But this woman, you don't see a lot of her in this particular clip, but she is severe. She was.

[B]

These are the two experts.

[A]

These are the two experts. So I'm gonna play for this. They're wrapping up a conversation with some guy in studio, and then they're going to toss to this kid who's joining them from a television. He's holding one single comic book. Thank you so much. Take good care of it. And back in Colorado, Kyle awaits an appraisal. Hi, Kyle. Welcome. What did you bring to be appraised? So you can see two camera people in the shot because they need all the different angles. Another thing about this, though, is it's very unforgiving for everybody involved because you're seeing the backs of people's heads. It's like really hard for, like, makeup. And everybody. Like, the one guy looks fine. The appraiser looks fine, head on. But then in the back, you see that he's kind of got a mullet combined with male pattern baldness. And I'm saying that as somebody who has male pattern baldness, but it's just like, it's hard to style yourself for every single angle of the camera.

[B]

I mean, their production. I think eyes were bigger than their production stomachs.

[A]

Yes. I still love the idea of this. But anyway, so you see the camera, people sitting around, you see some People in the background ready for their moment in the limelight. And again, this one woman who's an appraiser. We're only going to hear a little bit from her, but she is. So. She just.

[B]

She didn't come here to make friends, Andrew.

[A]

Not come here to make friends. Welcome. What did you bring to be appraised? This comic book. Now, by the way, the Chiron here says, live from Grand Junction, Colorado. Oh, that's also where our yardstick man is going to be. I don't know if we'll have time to get into that today. And then it says, kyle granddad enjoyed collecting comics and he's holding a single comic.

[B]

It kind of makes it seem like.

[A]

Kyle's the granddad sort of does. And then it says, our army at war, Sergeant Rock. It's a DC comic that he's holding, Colorado. Kyle awaits an appraisal. Hi, Kyle. Welcome. What did you bring to be appraised? This comic book. Do you collect a lot of them? Yeah.

[B]

All right.

[A]

How many do you have in your collection? A little over 200. Can you tell us is that particular, by the way, another reason you can tell this kid is uncomfortable is he keeps on messing with his ear. I'm just realizing now, whatever they're talking to him from a different location, he's in Grand Junction, and the earpiece they gave him clearly isn't staying in. He's just uncomfortable. Book. The first one, is it number one or do you know what the number of it is? I think it's number 297. Oh, number 297. Well, that would be a far later version, usually with comic books. The first one that's issued, if it does. Cat, there's that hair I was talking about again.

[B]

That is a rush.

[A]

No shame in having male pattern baldness. But then he's got this long hair in the back and the shock hot in the back. It's tough.

[B]

Everything about this is brutal, you know.

[A]

And continue to be. Speaking of brutal, we're about to hear for the first time from the appraiser. Worth the most. This one here, Susie. I think about maybe three to five dollars, I would think, at this particular point. Was that a UPC code on? That's a UPC code? Yeah. 3 to 5. 3 to 5 collection. Or put this up for sale. Put it up for sale. Put up for sale. We'll be happy to do that for you. Thank you so much. So that's the other thing they do is because they want to be interactive with the audience. You can put yourself up for sale. But this kid, this poor kid wants to make three to five dollars by selling it on tv. And he just looks so.

[B]

And his home, although I'm sure it's whatever, it's a fine home. It's just so. Just sort of dingy, and it just. Look, everything's staged with just the worst instincts.

[A]

Watch this guy. This guy's got a horse. He's so nervous.

[B]

He's got a horse.

[A]

He's got a little collectible horse. You could hold it in your hand. He's so nervous that. Think about it, like, he's probably known for days, hopefully weeks, maybe months, that he's going to be on the show to show off one object. It's a horse. When they introduce him, he's so nervous, he forgets that it's a whore. Take a listen to this different period, this guy you're about to see, and I'll let you describe it, Genevieve. He is. And again, I don't think that he comes off as grumpy. A lot of these people come off as grumpy because they're so nervous.

[B]

This is a real production failure needed.

[A]

To make these people more at ease.

[B]

It really shows you how good Antiques Roadshow is, because even when people seem a little goofy or whatever it is, it's such a comforting, comfortable. And even when they find out their stuff isn't worth anything, it's all done with a maximum of, like, good humor and, like, oh, well, it's an important thing to me, and I'll just have sentimental value to it.

[A]

So this.

[B]

They don't then go like, I guess I'll sell this worthless piece of junk.

[A]

Or I'll keep it. Now, this is a totally different episode. These are different appraisers here. And the global commemorative bicentennial place had an appraised value of 25 to $60. So once again, let's give you our telephone number, and we invite you to join the bidding process. 212-802-0082. Let's go back out to Grand Junction. You want to. Let's, let's go. We're going back to Grand Junction where Scott has been kind enough. Join us. How you doing there, Scott? Good. How are you today, John? Now, how would you describe him?

[B]

He's an older man, white guy, and very, like, frumpy, kind of. Of oversized plaid jacket. He looks really, really grumpy. And he's just, he's, he's kind of.

[A]

Slouching in his chair.

[B]

Slouching in a chair in front of you know, like very country kitsch style.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like cupboards filled with crockery of some description.

[A]

In the Chiron on the screen says, scott corraled horse at yard sale for $5. Thank you. Tell us what you brought. Well, I brought this little cast iron dog bank or. Excuse me, it's a horse. And again, I really don't want to make fun of this guy because I really think it's the problem that the producers.

[B]

I wish that everyone could be in the room with me right now and see what I am seeing. Because when I tell you that this horse is cursed, I beg you to believe it.

[A]

It is a blursed image.

[B]

It is a cursed image.

[A]

I'll let you keep talking over top of it as I let him sort of. Spark plug. Spark plug. Oh, yeah, there it is. I don't think this is one of the original spark plug banks. If you look, you can see the casting is very rough and the paint is newish, very new looking. He goes on to say. This appraiser goes on to say that he thinks this might be a copy, not an original. Maybe not even from before World War II or something like that.

[B]

Possibly by someone who's never seen a horse.

[A]

But they never explain what spark plug is. Nope, they just assume that we know. Meanwhile, now we have a kind of a more wide shot of this guy sitting at the table looking sort of forlornly down in front of him.

[B]

That's helpful.

[A]

Kind of. He doesn't seem hate filled, though. He just seems sad.

[B]

Yeah, but I just mean like his general sort of like, presentation.

[A]

He's got two collared shirts on. He's Steve Bannoning it, as we like to say.

[B]

Now who's not talking? Now who's hateful?

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

He's like if Archie Bunker and Steve Bannon had a baby, an old weird baby with an ugly horse.

[A]

Look out, world. Okay, one more little piece of this and then we'll get to the really fun part of the show. But this next piece is not about the people who are joining the show as guests for something to sell. This is them setting up a special feature they want to do about digital photography.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Digital photography is so new at this time that they're explaining it and they're expl it only as a tool for archiving your collection of whatever it is, collectibles. Because this show is still personal fx. So this is going to begin with the two hosts. No, I think just the male host, I believe, talking to a young woman who is my 90s kind of dream girl Veeves. I'm going to show you what she looks like and you'll see right kind of pixie cut, right little kind of jacket with like a tartan skirt.

[B]

Skirt.

[A]

Black, tight.

[B]

Black tights. If I can't see your shoes. But I'll bet you she's wearing some kind of boot.

[A]

Some kind of maybe a Doc Martin or maybe a. What are the other cute shoes from the time that were kind of a timeless throwback, like a Mary Jane. Mary Jane might have those. Hard to say. But she's like, they're one of the.

[B]

Rocking that look, by the way.

[A]

Yeah, she looks awesome. She's really cool looking. So she's sitting there. They're doing this one in the kitchen for some reason. The host is behind the counter. The web woman is there holding the digital camera that is about the size of. And this is going to speak to my knowledge of sci fi movies. This digital camera she's holding looks a lot like the field glasses that Luke Skywalker uses.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When he's looking at the various moons or whatever. You know what I'm talking about.

[B]

I'm going to table the quote. Various moons.

[A]

But yeah, isn't that. What isn't he using or is he just looking at sand creatures or something through them?

[B]

I just think it's not various moons.

[A]

I could have sworn when he's a kid on his planet. You look. Oh, are they suns? Multiple suns?

[B]

I don't know, but I think we're getting sidetracked.

[A]

Okay, sounds good. But anyway, he's like in this big clunky looking thing, you know, it's about the size of a bread box. Maybe not quite, but nobody knows what a bread box is. Anyway, they're gonna explain a little bit about how this works. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Tuesday's edition of Personal fx. Got a very, very interesting segment we're going to be teaching you about and it has to do with computers and how to log your collectibles. Our FX online computer photographer Renee Hawkes is here. Hi, how are you? Hi, nice to see you. Now tell me about logging pictures in the computer. Is this an expensive process? Well, not for what we do. You know, you pay about $700 for.

[B]

One of these digital cameras.

[A]

I did the. I mean, is that expensive or not? I've been going around and around on that. It's expensive in today's dollars. According to a couple of websites I looked at. With inflation, that's around fifteen hundred dollars today.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which you. I have a digital camera that if I were to buy A new version of that, whatever updated version, it would be in the thousands of dollars.

[B]

Yes. It's not that. I. I mean, I'm not saying it was, like, crazy at the time. It's just that I'm sure that whatever piece of equipment she's holding there takes a picture that's worse than your worst cell phone picture.

[A]

Oh, absolutely. Your worst cell phone picture 10 years.

[B]

10 years ago.

[A]

I'm sure. It's just, like, very, very, very pixelized. And in two minutes, you can look at what you're. You've taken, and it's. You don't have to pay the development costs or for film.

[B]

Two minutes.

[A]

I think it. It only takes two minutes.

[B]

Two minutes.

[A]

That's interesting, because today's shoe up there. We see your shoes. Mary Janes, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Look at us. We know the 90s book collector. I think she has 10,000 pieces. So if she's just going to take one picture regularly, I think we figured it out, that would be over $4,000. And that's just if you take one picture. But obviously, if you have a collection you want to log, you're going to take two or three, which could run you up to about $12,000. So they go on in this show with these numbers that they've kind of come up with thinking, like, well, you buy film, you take two or three photos of every object in your collection of no matter what it is, how much to develop it, how much to develop it. And then they're kind of deciding, like, how much, you know, you're saving by using it. Really comes off as an infomercial for digital photography. Much cheaper than. Yeah. So we look at it as an inexpensive way to catalog what we do on the shows every day. Now, Faith, you're our first contributor on today's show, right? Yes. Do you mind if we use this? I'd be very honest. He's gesturing towards a vase.

[B]

Can I sidebar on one thing here? Because our girl, our friend here with the. With the. What was it, $907, $700 digital camera. She's really in a cute outfit. And I would like never shame a woman for how she looks or what she chooses to wear. But the other woman here with the vase clearly went to hair and makeup, and they put a little makeup on her face. Digital camera girl, not a swipe of makeup on her face. And really, she needs to have makeup to be on camera. She. She looks so washed out.

[A]

Oh, interesting. I actually didn't notice that so much.

[B]

Like, she's, like, nothing on her lips? No, nothing.

[A]

But I support women, though.

[B]

I mean, I'm just saying they're doing her a disservice.

[A]

Yeah. So anyway, they continue this. She takes some photos of this vase. Then later on they do a whole segment with another member of their digital team who's now taken those photos and uploaded them into the computer program that they use. And this guy is also so very 90s. Oh, wait, that's not him. That's not him. We're getting to it.

[B]

A little powder on that shine.

[A]

That's a guest as I'm showing Genevieve as we're wrapping up another segment here, but we're about to be introduced. And with us is Bill Corbin, our FX wizard. Hi, Bill, how are you? Good. Hey, nun, you were explaining this very nicely. Just a second. This is not the Bill Corbin, the famous Bill Corbin who wrote for MST3000, I don't believe. Right. That's Bill Corbin. Right. Isn't that his name as well?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Anyway, this is a young man who's probably about the same age as the woman with the camera. And he's wearing a very. How do you describe a plaid shirt that has very big squares on it? I guess I just did, yeah. He's wearing a plaid shirt with a very, very big square, some sort of cat face.

[B]

Uncomfortably large plaid.

[A]

It is. And again, not a bad looking kid, but definitely of the time. You know, you have scrapbooks of your children, so this is kind of a computerized way of doing scrapbooks. I mean, else. Right? Yeah. Essentially you put a lot of value on your collectibles. Why not catalog them? I noticed that his official title is the FX Pentium Producer, which makes me think that this is a sponsored segment. The conventional way cataloging has been replaced, as with everything, by the computer. Now, does this whole system have a name to it? Collector Pro. Collector Pro. Can this be used on any computer system? Right now it runs on DOS or Windows. Okay. All right. And now this is the camera that we, we talked about earlier that you take these pictures with. And again, it's down to about $700 for the camera. Yeah. This is the Apple quicktake. They're about 700. And as they're becoming more popular, they're coming down in price quickly. Okay. And to take the pictures, it costs to take a picture on this, nothing just costs nothing. Cost of the camera and then the cost of your time to put it from there to here, which is almost no time at all, which again, in contrast to just taking a regular photo of 10,000 items would cost you $4,000. Yeah, but photographing and developing, you're gonna save a lot of money investing one, incidentally, how do you get the picture from the camera into the computer? Essentially, you snap a picture right here. There's a little slot, you open it up and this plug goes into your computer. You plug it in and the software that comes with it automatically downloads. Like that's it. It just goes in automatically. Like that just goes automatically. You just open up the picture, you hit file open, and it's that easy. All right, now let's talk more about what we should be putting in there and what exactly the. They never get into storage space, by the way. No, because you would need to probably buy extra hard drives. Although back then they didn't have external. Well, if they did, they weren't as common as they are now, like an external hard drive for thousands of photos.

[B]

You would have been a great guest for that segment.

[A]

Yeah, I could have been.

[B]

I can tell you really enjoy the minutia, which is what they are very hot on.

[A]

Yes. And by the way, I cut that very short.

[B]

Yeah, there's a lot. We're just kidding into that where that came from.

[A]

Oh, boy. So anyway, that was. I don't know where the listeners are with us right now.

[B]

They're waiting for dessert.

[A]

Okay, let us thank some donors here and get on with today's quiz. Thank you, baby. All right, vs, these are the folks, as you well know who keep TBTL ticking Without these donors. No tbtl because I'd have to get some other kind of a job.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

And at this point, you're really not.

[B]

Fit for any other work.

[A]

Not really fit for any other work. Thank you for saying that.

[B]

You're very appreciate that.

[A]

That is why we have to thank people like Matt Hatfield of Media, Pennsylvania. Oh, hey, we've been talking about media. Yes, it's perfect. We actually built today's show all around Matt, that in his predilections, Gabrielle Joyce also donated to make today's show possible. Gabrielle Joyce is joining us from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Thank you. Beautiful Philly. You love Philly. Last time we visited Philly, the whole plane ride home, you're talking about property values and how we might be able to buy a house in Philly and moving to Philly. I've never seen you so excited to move to a worse weather climate.

[B]

I know, but I love Philadelphia so much and I love the way I love, like the neighborhoods that our friends live in. They're so walkable. They have these Beautif townhouses. It's just so gorgeous. And. And I. I do love Philly. So, two. Pennsylvania?

[A]

Oh, yeah, not bad. And kind of keeping it in that general area of the country. How about Ohio? Yeah, we have Seth Brow. Elite in now. Would you say Lebanon, like we said in New Hampshire or Lebanon?

[B]

That's a good question.

[A]

Lebanon, Ohio or Lebanon?

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. It's tricky when. When they have these, you know, know, cities from other parts of the world and they get transposed to American pronunciations.

[A]

Anyways, thank you, Seth. And thank you to Erica Lustig in Graham, Washington, or Graham, Washington.

[B]

You know, I believe Lustig means funny in German.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Erica, tell me a joke. I'll wait. Kevin Schaefer is in Florence, Colorado. Thank you, Kevin. And Amy Moultrie is in Mercer Island. Or would you say on Mercer Island, Washington? Yeah.

[B]

She feels like, weirdly, you can be in Seattle, but if you're in Mercer island, it feels like you're underground somehow.

[A]

You're on Mercer Island.

[B]

Yeah, I think you'd be on an island.

[A]

I was looking at something today. I was, like, looking at the bio of another FX host, somebody we'd even get into. I won't get into it now.

[B]

Save that for another show.

[A]

But actually, I know. I will tell you briefly, just. Do you know the name? Name Suzanne Wong, W H A N G. Apparently she hosted House Hunters for a long time as hgtv, I think, probably. And I never watched that, but I just saw her and I didn't know that she was a name. Just hosting some of these. She was in Grand Junction, Colorado, with the Yardstick guy. And I was like, who is this? Because she was, like, very young and very perky and very kind of flirty with him a little bit this really old. This old guy who, again, looked kind of out of his element. And she was really doing her best, although she was doing her best to keep the energy up kind of by interrupting him a lot and not letting him talk. I think that she kind of realized that we need to kind of do the heavy lifting on the personality of some of these folks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I looked her up, and so, yeah, she, she. And she was in some show called Las Vegas, which I don't know about that. I wasn't sure if any of our audience might know who Suzanne Wong is. But anyway, I was reading a bio of her, an interview with her. Her, and she mentioned that she was doing a show in Provincetown, and she said it's in Cape Cod.

[B]

Yeah, that does struck Me as my.

[A]

Ear on the Cape or on Cape Cod?

[B]

Yeah, I think so. But I, you know, in the same way that, like, for whatever reason, we don't say we're on Seattle. That would be very weird.

[A]

Yeah, I'm on Seattle. I'm on Seattle. All of that is to say Amy Moultrie is inside Mercer Island, Washington, and we appreciate her support and we appreciate everybody's support as I find the Top Story intro sound. Hello, and welcome to Top Story. Okay, Genevieve, what I'm going to do here with this quiz. And I set this up at the beginning of the show. It's based. It's only 10 questions and it's based on. Based on movies that you and I watch. These kind of movies that we've seen many times. There's just kind of things that you and I like. Very comfort movies. Comfort movies for you and I as a couple. I think what I'm going to do is. Oh, that's right. This is such a weird premise. So you and I have noticed a trend in commercials. You and I host, after these messages, podcasts about commercials. And there are at least two commercials we've seen recently that are completely unrelated to production, but somebody's holding a banana in it for no apparent reason. There's one for some junk removal company around here. And they show a guy and he's talking on his cell phone, only without explanation, he's holding a banana to his.

[B]

Ear for some reason. Banana.

[A]

Exactly. Which I think is our friend Phyllis's profile pic. Whenever she calls me, I see a photo of her with a banana to her ear, which is really funny. Do you remember that bit from Sesame street, by the way? It's Bert and Ernie and I think so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think Bert keeps on trying to get Ernie's attention to tell him why you had a banana in your ear. And he's like, I'm sorry, I can't hear you. I have a banana in my ear.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Comedy gold. I'm ever seeing that as a kid and being like, these guys are geniuses anyway. And there's another one for some weapon that I'm not even gonna give them any. Yeah, Luke and I were talking about.

[B]

Some personal protection thing that's like dog whistling at all the conservatives. And. And so this woman holds up a banana and set like, basically she implies that if that what she's really holding is this, you know, non lethal weapon.

[A]

Yeah. I can't tell if they're doing that just to get attention because it makes you go look up what she's talking about or if it's because they don't feel like legally they can show the weapon on.

[B]

It feels they're very. Like there's some sort of unspoken element to it.

[A]

I agree. So what I've done is I've taken quotes from these specific movies that you and I like. And again, you're pretty familiar with them. I think this is going to be too easy, to be honest with you. But I've taken the quotes and I've replaced one word with the word banana.

[B]

It's very similar to a bit that they do on one of my favorite podcasts. It's not really that similar, but one of my favorite podcasts is Blank Check.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

With Griffin and David, also about movies. And at the beginning of every episode, Griffin uses says a line from the movie they're talking about, but replaces one word with podcast.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, that's clever. Yeah, I like that. I need to get in that show. All right, so. But our listeners should listen to TBTL first. Yeah, then do that.

[B]

So, as we've been saying, you got to eat your vegetables.

[A]

I've been struggling with how to do this because I. So I can just read you the quote that has been adapted with the word banana or bananas, and you can tell me the missing word. But I also recorded a version of a clip from the movie, only I've replaced the word with my voicing bananas. So this first one is super easy. I know you're gonna get this. Cause we say it to each other all the time. I don't know why. It's a classic line from a dorky little movie that we like. You gotta tell me. And by the way, I don't know about points on this one. I'll give you points if you can get the word right, get the movie right, give me more information about the scene. Some of these I need you to tell me more about. Cause they're more your movies than mine. This first one, though, is I've invented a pill that gives bananas to ex girlfriends. Now, I know you know what that is right away, but let's just say that you were struggling with that one.

[B]

Right?

[A]

You could say, I want to hear the audio. And you would hear this.

[B]

I've invented a pill that gives bananas to ex girlfriends.

[A]

Okay. Do you understand why I'm running so late today? Because I was doing a lot of stuff like this. I've invented a pill that gives bananas to ex girlfriends.

[B]

Okay. Obviously, that is Bruce McCullough in Brain Candy, the Kids in the hall movie.

[A]

Indeed.

[B]

He's invented a pill that gives worms to ex girlfriends.

[A]

That's right. Brain Candy. Kids in the hall movie. Bruce McCullough. You got that right. And it is worms.

[B]

I was watching. I think I told you I was watching that documentary Too Funny to Fail, about the Dana Carvey. Oh, yeah, the Rise and Fall. The Dana Carvey show, which lasted one season, I think. Yes. They got eight episodes. And then the eighth one, which was like their. Their beloved farewell to this dream that they had. ABC didn't even air it. It just aired an episode, a rerun of Coach.

[A]

Oh, my goodness.

[B]

And John Mulaney, or sorry, not John Mulaney. Bill Hader gives the funniest interview in the. One of the funniest interviews in the documentary where he's like. Because he was obsessed with the show as like a young, young person obsessed with comedy. And he, he. So he always said his vcr, I mean, it was that era, right? He set his VCR to record the Dana Carvey show. And then he came to watch it and it was just an episode of Coach. And he was like, he was like, I couldn't believe it. I, like, I thought I must have done something wrong. I must have set it up wrong because how could they not air the final episode? And he's like. But then I watched the episode of Coach. Dawber's at it again.

[A]

Dawber. So this scene in Brain Candy, I'm trying to put it in time space.

[B]

Oh, sorry. The reason I brought that up is that there's a photograph of Robert Smigel in that documentary from his early days of starting to write for Lorne Michaels Productions in snl. And who's he sitting next to but, like baby Bruce McCullough.

[A]

Oh, really? Oh, in the photo.

[B]

In the photo. Yeah, it's old black and white photo and like Bark McKinney's up in the, like Al Frankenstown at the front of the photo. It's just like. It's an amazing, like, time capsule.

[A]

So if you haven't seen Brain Candy, like we've said a couple of times now, it's a Kids in the hall movie, which I like. I remember not liking it the first time I saw it. I think it's really hard to make the switch from sketch comedy to a full length feature. We've seen the Bob and David folks kind of struggle with that. With Ronnie Dobbs.

[B]

Ronnie Dobbs. Flawed experiment.

[A]

Is it Run, Ronnie Run. Is that the name of their movie? But they all have their moments. And I actually have really come to really like Brain candy. I think I to not like it when I was a teenager. And it's about a pharmaceutical company that had a big hit with some kind of pill called Tummies. And I don't even know what. Tummies. Dummies. And now they're looking for their next big hit, basically.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so scientists are kind of coming in and pitching their new drugs. I've invented a pill that gives worms to ex girlfriends. Right. And what's positive about that?

[B]

Well, it's a pill that gives worms to ex girlfriends.

[A]

Well, could it also give worms to ex boyfriends? This is a drug for the world to give worms to ex girlfriends. Well, great. Well, great.

[B]

Speaking of Lorne Michaels.

[A]

Yeah. He's doing his Lorne Michaels.

[B]

Yeah, that's Mark McKinney doing his Lorne Michaels. Like, I've often thought it'd be fun to do, like, a super cut of all of the people who have worked with or for Lorne Michaels over the years who have done a version of him on screen.

[A]

Mike Myers is a big one.

[B]

Mike Myers. Jack Donaghy. Yeah. I mean, Dr. You know, Dr. Evil by Mike Myers. Like, there's so many. Because he. He's such a. He has. He's certainly, like, created a lot of famous people and also, like, made a huge impression on a lot of famous people.

[A]

I'm gonna play the audio clue for this next one. Okay. Because I know you're gonna get this either this is such a dumb quiz because almost all of these lines are things. Things that have become part of our vernacular as a couple. I say that all the. For no reason. I'll just say this is a pill for the world that gives worms to ex girlfriends. A lot of these are like that. So these are all going to be absolute layups for you or impossible.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

This next one should be a layup. So I'm not even going to say it out loud. I'll just do the tape. I see salt and pepper. Is there a banana? I'll get it. Okay, I'm going to play that again. I see salt and pepper. Is there a banana? I see salt and pepper. Is there a banana?

[B]

Is there a salt substitute?

[A]

Is there a salt substitute? Substitute? What movie is this from?

[B]

That, of course, is what About Bob?

[A]

This is a dinner scene.

[B]

One of my very favorite movies.

[A]

Bob is starting to really get on the nerves of Dr. Leo Marvin. He's overstayed his welcome. He was supposed to be gone, but for some reason, he's stuck at the vacation home with Dr. Marvin's family. And they're having dinner. And first Bob is being really annoying by, like, just over. Mmm. Ing. He's eating his food, going. In fact, some of that might be in the whole table.

[B]

Leo.

[A]

I see salt and pepper. Is there a salt substitute? I'll get it. And don't call me Leo. But you said in your office that I could call you Leo. That was in my office in my home. I'd like you to call me Doctor.

[B]

I love that movie so much. It is you and I. I think it was like one of the. If not the first one of the first movies and like, sort of cultural touchstones that we really, like, bonded over and. And. And realized that we shared the same sense of humor. And from every. From all accounts, the. The antagonism between Dreyfus and Bill Murray on set was real. And, like, is.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Partly what you're seeing on screen is that Dreyfus does not like Murray, and Murray being, in a certain way, a little bit of a Bob. Right. Like, sort of like, you know, irrepressible and. But oblivious. And I think they probably have very different acting styles and processes for getting to their characters. But all I can tell you is that I wish they'd made a thousand movies together because they are. Their energies are so perfectly, like, in conflict. And it's like the best movie about conflict. I. It's so funny.

[A]

It reminds me a little bit about the story about Gene Hackman on Royal Tenenbaum. Yes.

[B]

On Royal. Tenenbaum's right. He didn't really get it. And that's why his performance is so different from other. The other, like the Luke Wilson. Luke and Owen Wilson and the way they vibe with Wes Anderson, like, with Wes Anderson's whole thing. And I think one of the reasons that Tenenbaums is so successful to me, and I think better than some of his, more like, I guess, like Precious, you know, I would say, like, you know, Moonrise Kingdom being a good example where everybody is sort of like in the world of Wes Anderson. I love the fact that Tenenbaums has Gene Hackman who's not in that world.

[A]

And I, for some reason, I. I wouldn't say. I get them confused, but Dreyfus and Hackman share us. Yeah. Kind of a similar space in my brain. It's hard for me to remember one when I'm thinking about the other, if that makes sense.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, Hackman, God rest his soul, but, like, yeah, he. He had. He took different kinds of roles. I mean, Dreyfus was always more nebbishy. You know, more like wormy. A little bit, you know, but I. And Hackman was more kind of like. I feel like a little bit more like of a tough guy. But yeah, they're surely from the same era of like, you know, 70s movie stars are.

[A]

And. Yeah. Kind of tough. I think he'd be. I mean, it can be.

[B]

I don't think Odrifus is doing a tough guy.

[A]

Yeah, I guess not.

[B]

He's always. There's like an impotence to him.

[A]

Hackman is the fighting priest in the Upside Down Boat Movie.

[B]

Yeah. Although it's funny you mentioned that because who was in the remake of Upside Down Boat Movie but Dreyfus?

[A]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Playing the same role. No, I was gonna say because they're. They're the same generation. That'd be a weird recasting.

[B]

Now the Kurt Russell is. They re. They recast all of the characters. So like, it's not the same.

[A]

It's not a.

[B]

It's not a one to one. Okay, so. But like the main leader guy is Kurt Russell.

[A]

Okay, you're gonna know this next one, but will you be able to come up with the name of the movie, I wonder? And this is one that our listeners will be familiar with as well. I think in a lot of cases it's a drop from a kind of obscure movie that we play a lot on this show. Show. I'm gonna play the audio version here. Banana means hello and goodbye. Goodbye. Do you want to hear it again? Banana means hello and goodbye. Goodbye. Put a lot of work into this. You need to hear them twice.

[B]

Yes, I know. Well, I know it's Aloha means hello and goodbye.

[A]

Aloha, yes. Hello and goodbye. But do you know the name of the movie? Give us the context for when we saw this.

[B]

Well, we were watching a lot of Crackle.

[A]

I feel like it wasn't Crackle, it was Impact.

[B]

Oh, I'm sorry, Crackle. You'll forgive me for getting those two confused.

[A]

Crackle is a streaming network. Impact was a tv, like a station or a network that played like very low budget, 80s and maybe 70s and 80s movies and a lot of TNA.

[B]

A lot of TNA stuff.

[A]

It was a network for men.

[B]

Yeah. And here's where I'm struggling. Was it called Bikini Surf Shop?

[A]

You're very, very close.

[B]

I feel like the words surf and shop and bikini were all integral.

[A]

So you have shop is in there, bikini is in there. Now we need a location.

[B]

Give me a Malibu Bikini Shop.

[A]

The Malibu Bikini Shop. Indeed. In fact, what can we tell you? It came out in 1986. This is randomly came out. Now when we say TNA movies, we should mention that this was like a. A cable network that was not like HBO or whatever. They didn't show nudity, but it was just like taking this era of movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then kind of horny. Yeah, just horny movies. And then they would edit them for TV and they would show them and let's here I'm on the IMDb of Malibu bikini Shop and I'm looking to see. And there's some real looking back. There's some like, I believe there's some peeping Tom ness that goes on in this that would be very upsetting to see today. I believe it doesn't hold up. In other words, I'm looking for a.

[B]

I can't believe a movie called Malibu Bikini Shop didn't become an American classic.

[A]

I know. I'm trying to find like a good description of it. Boy, does IMDb terrible.

[B]

It's really unusual.

[A]

It is just unusual. I know. I said, oh, here it is. Oh, maybe I couldn't find it because it's so brief. I was expecting a much longer. Two brothers who have just graduated from college inherit a bikini store from their aunt or aunt. And scene, hilarity and boobs ensue.

[B]

No, no, no explanation of what conflict is set up. I think somebody has to do something or the bikini shop closes. Right, right.

[A]

Yes, exactly. There's got. There's probably got to be some sort of competition. And then there's this guy who's like this. You know, he's an older man and he's a stuffy man. I feel like he's always, you know, there's a parody of this kind of guy in like the Simpsons and stuff. Aloha means hello and goodbye. Goodbye. And then he just charges out the door. All right, you ready for another one?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, this one. I am going to give you the reading on it first before I play for you the audio, if you need. Need it. I've never hung on to that part of the banana, you know, that part underneath. If I play the audio for you, I'm pretty sure you'll get it. I wanted to try to make this a little bit more.

[B]

I bet that's not ringing a bell right now.

[A]

Okay, now before I play the audio for you, do you want me to do a reading that is more. I feel like in the spirit of the performance, I've never hung onto that part of the banana. You know, that part underneath Underneath.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

My acting, really. My acting unlocked something in you.

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's like somebody who wants to do like an action thing. Like, he wants to. He wants to live out some fat fantasy of like. Like a. Like a. It's like not a car chase, but it's something like that.

[A]

As soon as you hear the voice, think.

[B]

When I hear the voice.

[A]

So this is the clue with, with the edit. I've never hung on to that part of that. You know that part underneath the thing where it lands?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. This one's more challenging. I thought when you heard the audio, you'd know for sure.

[B]

Yeah, I know as soon as you say it, it's gonna all come back to me. But it's some. It's some guy who, like, who has a fantasy of being in some. Some like, action scene or action adventure, and he wants to do it, and I can't remember what it is.

[A]

When you hear the longer, unedited version, you will know it immediately. I've never. I never, like, chased a guy across a crowded city square. I've never. I've never hung on to that part of the helicopter. You know that part underneath the thing where it lands? Do you. Do you know the part? Yes, I know that part. I've never hung on to that. Yes, I know that part. Alan Arkin.

[B]

Alan arkin and Anthony LaPaglia.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

In so I Married an Axe Murderer.

[A]

So I Married an Axe Murderer.

[B]

And he's always. He's dreamed of having, like, he's a cop. He's a cop. And he wants to be like, in a cop movie where he does, like, adventure y stuff. But mostly what he has to do is fill out paperwork and report to his very reasonable seeming boss.

[A]

Yeah. And his boss is very reasonable. And it drives him crazy. Once he's like, I want you to yell at me. I want you to tell me you're gonna take my gun in my badge. I don't know. And then by the end, Alan Arkin kind of does a great performance of being that cranky chief and then says, I don't know. Did I go too far with some of the ethnic slurs?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, here's another one.

[B]

Cosmopezan.

[A]

That's right. I know you're gonna know this one. I hate how quickly you're going to get this one because I want to play the audio for you. I know he can get the banana, but can he do the banana? I know he can get the banana, but can he do the banana? I know he can get the banana. But can he do this banana? What's it from?

[B]

Obviously from Joe vs. The Volcano. It's our very favorite person, Dan Hadiah.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Doing the relentless. I know he can get the job, but can he do the job? Monologue.

[A]

Now, I have described this on the show many times. I don't know if Luke has seen this movie or just doesn't remember it or whatever, but I. I just feel like for folks who haven't seen it, I can't stress enough the amount of time they give Hadiah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To spread out here. So it's. And it's the very, very beginning of the movie.

[B]

It's the scene of the movie that he's in. After this scene, he. We never see him again.

[A]

But I'm gonna play a longer version of it here, so. So you have Tom Hanks, and he plays a guy who really, really depressed. Right. And he goes into what must be described as the most depressing work atmosphere ever. It's like this army of just dreary looking workers showing up to work for.

[B]

The artificial testicle factory.

[A]

That's right. And then he opens up the door to go into work. I think it's subterranean, Right. It's in the basement. You will hear in this tape, which is. I can't play the whole thing for you. It's so funny. You're seeing images of him, Joe, Kind of like he goes to hang up his hat on the coat rack when the coat rack breaks and he's just like. And he goes to pour himself some coffee in like a shitty, shitty Styrofoam cup. And there's like nothing in there. It's mud or whatever. And he's just like taking off his overcoat and just showing up for work. And the whole time in the background, you hear the boss in this argument. I know he can get the job, but can he do the job, Harry? Yeah, Harry, But. But can he do the job? I know he can get the job, but can he do the job? I'm not arguing that with you. I'm not arguing that with you. I'm not arguing that with you. I'm not arguing that with you. Harry. Harry. Yeah, Harry. But can he do the job? I know he can get the job, but can he do the job? I'm not arguing that with you. Harry. I am not arguing that with you. Who said that? I didn't say that. If I said that, I would have been wrong. Maybe. Maybe. I'm not arguing that with you. Yeah, Harry. I know he can get the job. But can he do the job? I'm not arguing. All right, this goes on for another 30 seconds. We listen to about a minute 15 of that. It continues.

[B]

Such a brave choice, honestly.

[A]

And it really drives home.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just the miserableness of the situation.

[B]

So powerful misery, I should say. So well executed. It's so to. To give. I mean, they basically give Dan Hadai, like, four things he can say in that.

[A]

In whatever order.

[B]

In any order. He can say them in any order, but he just can only say those four things. And he brings a different spin to each one. Each one is more irritating than the last. He's like, nobody, nobody delivers on, like, just grimy unlikability the way Dan Hadiah does, you know? And I mean, like, he's in. You know, he's been in a million things. He's just a real. That guy, obviously. But he's so good in Mulholland Drive.

[A]

Oh, Mulholland Drive.

[B]

Yeah. He plays one of the, like, mobsters who's, like, determined. Who's, like, telling Justin Theroux what he can and can't do in his movies. Movie. And he's so threatening. And he almost says nothing. He's like. He has I. He has, like, virtually no lines, but he's incredible.

[A]

Is he in Blood simple or am I just confusing him with. With Walsh. Whatever that guy's name at Walsh.

[B]

I can't remember.

[A]

Okay, this next one, I'm very interested to know whether or not you will get this. I'm gonna start by doing my reading of it, which is going to be difficult because there's a tough word to say in this. You know how I am with words. Your work is bananas and under dramatized. You lack any sense of structure, character, and the Aristotelian unities. Your work is bananas and underdramatized. You know it without hearing the tape.

[B]

Oh, I sure do. I feel like the word that you're replacing is. Is it banal?

[A]

See that. Oh, that. I forgot. That is the tough part. Right? You know the movie, you know the scene. But in this case, it's a tough word to know. It's not banal.

[B]

It's not banal. It's. Your work is.

[A]

Just because I made the time to do it.

[B]

Is it tedious here?

[A]

It's not tedious. I'll play the. I'll play the clue for you before we play the whole thing. Your work is bananas and underdramatized. You lack any sense of structure, character, or the Aristotelian unities. This is one of your favorite movies. Certainly your favorite sequel. Adam's Family Values.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

It's Wednesday.

[B]

It's Wednesday. She's telling Gary. Gary Granger, played by Peter. Oh, gosh, what's his name? I can't think of his last name, but he's. He was in Ally McBeal. He's been a million things. She's telling. He wants to do his terrible play, A Turkey Named Brotherhood, which is about the first Peter McNichol. Peter McNichol. He has written the most racist play ever put on paper called A Turkey Named Brotherhood.

[A]

For a kid's camp.

[B]

For a kid's camp.

[A]

He's the counselor, the adult.

[B]

And. And Wednesday is drafted to play the. The native person. And she.

[A]

Pocahontas, Right?

[B]

I think so. Who was like, nowhere near the Thanksgiving, of course. And she. And he tells she. And so she gives him the. The bullet on his play, which is that it is. Your work is. It's not banal.

[A]

It's a tough word.

[B]

It's.

[A]

Your work is bananas. You got there. Here's the whole thing. I don't want to be in the pageant. Don't you want to help me realize my vision? Your work is puerile and underdramatized. You lack any sense of structure, character, or the Aristotelian unities. I had to say Aristotelian for that clue. Genevieve. Yeah, you could hear me being very careful with that sentence.

[B]

That's such a great movie.

[A]

All right. I think this one is going to be another toughie for you, I'm hoping, because it's more fun, though, that way. The quote is this. Well, the entire civilized world knows that all closets are made of bananas.

[B]

I love this.

[A]

You know it. You know it already. All right.

[B]

How many movies are about get closets. Kick off with being about a closet.

[A]

You know what? I probably should have replaced the word closet. Honestly.

[B]

The entire civilized world knows that all.

[A]

Closets are made of bananas. What movie is it?

[B]

It's Overboard.

[A]

It is Overboard.

[B]

And the entire civilized world knows that all closets are made of cedar.

[A]

Cedar, indeed. This here, I'll play the whole.

[B]

I wanted cedar.

[A]

You may have wanted cedar, but you didn't ask for cedar.

[B]

Well, the entire civilized world knows that.

[A]

All closets are made of cedar. He made her this amazing closet, but he made it out of oak. It had, like, some sort of crank where, like, shoes could come in from the back.

[B]

It's incredible.

[A]

You love that movie.

[B]

I love that movie.

[A]

It's.

[B]

I feel like it is.

[A]

It's about human slavery.

[B]

It is about sort of an enslaved. But she's really. But she's really mean at the beginning, so you don't feel super bad.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And they really soft pedal, like, when they start having sex, it's consensual, so it's there. They try to be careful. Also, it's Kurt and Goldie. Like, come on.

[A]

Is this where they met?

[B]

I think this is where they met.

[A]

Yeah. They have chemistry.

[B]

I mean, the chemistry is, like, absolutely off the charts. Leaping off the screen. I just can't be mad at Overboard. I'm sorry.

[A]

Okay, how about this one? I have no idea whether or not you'll get this one for real because I'm less familiar with this movie than you are. It's also Shorty, so I'm going to start by just reading it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm not a banana. You can't just order.

[B]

Oh, of course.

[A]

You know, is that an iconic. Is that as iconic of a line as it seemed?

[B]

I think about that line all the time.

[A]

Really? Yeah. I've always want a banana. You can't just order me.

[B]

I've always wanted to use that line on somebody, but unfortunately, nobody who would order me can be told that they cannot order me. So unfortunately, I am just Steak.

[A]

You are correct. The word we replace with steak. What movie is it from?

[B]

Of course it's Working Girl.

[A]

And why do you love that movie so much?

[B]

When she gets her own office, I always cry.

[A]

Cry at the end.

[B]

I always cry at the end. But I love every.

[A]

How does she.

[B]

I love everything about that movie.

[A]

So it starts. It's an. It's a real go go 80s movie. And it's about a young woman who accepts a. Or a woman, I guess, in her. Yeah, probably like 20s, right?

[B]

Yeah, she's pretty young. In fact, she has a birthday in the movie, I think she's. They say how old she is, but she's like late 20s.

[A]

Late 20s. And so she accepts a job, but she thinks she's gonna be one of the people working in, like, the cubicle area, but they're like, no, no, your office is there. And there's some mistake that gets her into the corner office while the real boss is, like, held up with a broken leg from a skiing accident.

[B]

You're conflating 10 different things. And the. The plot of the movie is that she. She's kind of on her last. She. She's really good. She went to night school. She's a striver. She's a bridge and tunnel girl, but she's a real striver. She's smart. She's always thinking about business ideas, but because she doesn't have the fancy degree and because she's a, you know, she's a hottie, she keeps getting kind of railroaded into these, like, secretarial or clerical positions and being taken advantage of. Kevin Spacey tries to rape her. Her. So there's like, she. She kind of, like, burns all her bridges with the. In these, like, in this finance sector and like, Wall street. And she gets one more chance. Olympia Dukakis is her placement, like, person who, like, she goes to, like, these job. It's like back then they would go to, like, a. A job placement company and they would put you somewhere. So she gets put with being the secretary to Sigourney Weaver. And at first she thinks it's gonna be awesome that this woman's gonna mentor her her and she's going to be partners and maybe have a shot at a more significant job. A job in business. Mergers and acquisitions at Petty Marsh is her job or is her company. But then she finds out that not only is Squirny Weaver a real pill, but she is stealing her ideas. And then Fortune hands her this opportunity to do a deal while Squirny Weaver is out of the office with a broken leg stuck somewhere in Colorado. So she does this. She.

[A]

She. Can I interrupt for one second, though, because I'm very confused because I was grabbing this tape today, and I saw the scene where she sits herself down in a cubicle and she's ready to get to work on her first day of work, and another woman comes and says, oh, that hasn't happened yet.

[B]

That's at the very end. That's why you're conflating two different things. Oh, so at the very. So anyway, she gets away, or, you know, like, it all comes crashing down. But then she's able to prove to the big boss that it was her idea and that Squirny Weaver stole her idea. So then the big boss says, or it's not really the boss. He's like their client. The client says, hey, like, clearly you can't work at this company anymore because you did an identity fraud. But if you are really hungry and you want to come, like, you can come work for my. My company, my media company. And so she showed. But this is what's hilarious, is, like, she never. Claire apparently, like, never clarifies with anybody. Like, what is her job title? What is her salary? What will she be doing in this job? So she takes it. She just takes it. And then she shows up for work the you know, the next day at this new company, and because she's been her secretary all of her working life, she just sit. She sees a woman sitting on. In the office with her feet up on the phone, which, remember, she stole the identity of and, like. Or stole basically the job of this woman and, like, used her office. But she sees a woman sitting in this office, she assumes, okay, that's who I must be working for. Again, how would you not know who your boss was going to be? But she sits down outside the office and starts unpacking her stuff. And then the woman comes out of the office and was like, oh, I'm embarrassed. Like, I didn't know you were going to be here yet. I'm. This is my desk. And there's like a whole thing where she's like, oh, but I thought I was a secretary. And like, no, no, I'm the secretary. So then they trade places and she goes into her new office and she's.

[A]

A businesswoman and you cry. I could. Okay, my apologies for interrupting because I could have sworn when I was. I was scrolling through that movie looking for quotes, and I thought that I saw near the beginning of the movie that she sat down on the wrong desk. But you're saying that's the very final.

[B]

Very final.

[A]

Would I be scrubbing through the final scene, though? That doesn't make sense. But anyway, apologies for interrupting, but we do have to move on here. We only have two more to go. Go. Then we got to get out of here and get the show posted. I'm probably already getting emails in my inbox about where the TBT is today. We usually try to get it posted before now. We're still recording. All right, here's one more. You're going to get this. We're just talking about this recently, I'm afraid. How many times do I have to tell you? I'm not depressed. I just need bananas.

[B]

You're such a hater of this movie. I love it.

[A]

I used to know. Okay, let's talk about this movie for a second, then we'll tell everybody what it.

[B]

I'm not depressed. I just need space.

[A]

I just need space. You're absolutely right. This is a movie that when I first met you, you were living with two other women, or maybe three other women at the time. And I had heard from them teasing you to your face in front of me about this movie because you liked this movie. They all thought it was a bad movie. And then I sat down to watch it with you and I enjoyed it because I like this kind of movie with you and Charles Gruden is incredible. Charles Grodin, he's the one who has that line. This is me and him doing it together. How many times do I have to tell you? I'm not depressed. I just need bananas. And what he needs is space. He's saying that to his wife. But all that is to say, you would always say, oh, you make fun of me for liking this movie. And I never did make fun of you for liking the movie. It was your evil roommates who made fun of you. And of course, our dear friends who made fun of you. It wasn't until the most recent rewatch watching that I started to turn on it. And now I'm agreeing with your roommates. I actually think Dan. Oh, so the movie is the Couch Trip and I.

[B]

Another stolen identity movie. Very similar actually structurally to Working Girl.

[A]

And I think my problem with it is the Dan Aykroydness. The last time I watched it, I realized, oh, he's trying so hard to be like Fletch in this movie, but he can't do that. He's Dan Aykroyd.

[B]

He's not. Yeah, he's Dan Aykroyd. He, you know, whatever Chevy Chase's personal deficits might be, he's really. He is good at, like the sort of bit bitty stuff that he does as Fletch. I think Aykroyd's fine in the Couch Trip. I think, like, he and Walter Matthau have a pretty good chemistry. But the star. The best part of the movie is the second movie. There's like the. A plot which is Dan Aykroyd is passing himself off as a psychiatrist in order to, like, make a big score of money and get away because he's being chased by the cops. Secondarily in a separate part of like, the world, I think in France or something, we have Charles Grodin, who is the guy who's. He's so good and he's just like. Yeah, he's. He's just groaning it up. He's like, just so down and depressed and nobody makes depression seem funnier than Charles Grodin.

[A]

Do you know, I think you watched it with me. It was a movie that Luke had told me about. I'm trying to remember what. Why this came into our life. But it was a movie that Luke had remembered some very specific details about from his youth, and he wanted to know if he was right about it. So later that night, I found the movie. I think I actually bought it and watched it with you. And it's the Steve Martin movie. And the scene that Luke remembered was when he put on a cologne that smells like sweat so he could, like, trick people into thinking that he was actually, like, kind of an athletic guy who goes on jogs or whatever.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And in that. And that also has Charles Grodin. Oh, it's. It's the Lonely Guy. It's called the Lonely Guy, right?

[B]

Oh, we watched this.

[A]

Yeah, we watch it because of this. Yeah, we watched it because. I remember we had pizza or something and we watched it, and Luke was absolutely right about. About that. Yes, about that particular scene, about the fake sweat or whatever. But also, I use this. This is Charles Grodnigan.

[B]

I say it's an especially watchable movie.

[A]

It's got its moments. It doesn't know its voice very well. It's slapstick. It sometimes breaks the fourth wall. It's very uneven. But this is another depressed Charles Grodin sitting next to Steve Martin on a bench talking about naps. Quarter to four, we gotta take a nap or something. I don't like to take naps. I don't like to wake up more than once a day. Cause when I first wake up, I get that shock of who I am and everything. I really don't like to do that more than once a day. You're right. When you say he plays depressed so well. He really, really does.

[B]

Oh, God, another one. Rest in peace. God, Charles Grodin, he's just so good. He knows he's. He's has a tiny role in. And kills it in. So I Married an Ax Murderer.

[A]

Oh, yeah, of course. He's. His car is.

[B]

Yes, he's the one who. Anthony LaPaglia says, like, I've got a. I want to commandeer your vehicle. And he just goes, no, that's right.

[A]

He is so good at everything. He's really good in. I want to say Midnight Express, which is the wrong movie, but.

[B]

Midnight Run.

[A]

Midnight Run. Oh, my God. These things go down so good. We need to rewatch that because you and I had not seen. Seen that in. Ever. Right? And we watched it for the first time.

[B]

Yeah, I watched it for the first time not that long ago.

[A]

It was so good. We were blown away. De Niro and a comedy.

[B]

It's so.

[A]

I guess he'll go on to do later.

[B]

So good. Midnight Run is, like, flawless.

[A]

Okay, last one here. And we really do have to get out of here, so this is the last one. And I'm counting on you having no idea what's going on. Here I'm really hoping I already screwed.

[B]

It up with so I Married an Axe Murderer.

[A]

Oh, that's right. The banana hanging from the bottom of the banana.

[B]

Like, I could picture. I knew, like, the vibe of it, but I just couldn't. If I could have just remembered that it's Anthony Laoglia.

[A]

What I thought was funny was even when I played the clue for you where you could hear his voice, you didn't get it until I played the full one, and it just starts a second earlier. And then I saw your eyes light up. There was something about hearing the very. I've never. I never, like, chased a guy across a crowded city square. That was the only part you didn't hear.

[B]

The guy.

[A]

The guy, gu. Okay. All right. So this next one, I'm gonna start with a read on it. Where has your head been lately? Did you have a hard banana last night?

[B]

Sounds familiar.

[A]

Really? Okay. Where. Where is your head been lately? Did you have a hard banana last night? I'll say right now. It's not dirty.

[B]

It's not dirty. I. Yeah, I. Maybe if I heard the real clip.

[A]

Okay, here we go.

[B]

Where is your head been lately?

[A]

Did you have a hard banana last night? That's going to give you nothing more.

[B]

Yeah, it's. Is it. This is a Hail Mary. Is there any chance it's don't tell mom the babysitter's dead?

[A]

No, but that's another one. Kind of like Working girl.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, very. Gosh, I feel like I'm. A theme emerges.

[A]

Another person who's doing work and actually doing real work, but pretending that.

[B]

Pretending she's somebody.

[A]

Somebody else or at a higher level than her company. She's a high school student, right? Or maybe recent high school, I think.

[B]

High school. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, she is. She's in high school. All right, I'll play. Do you want me to play you the. The full answer here?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

You still won't know the movie, though.

[B]

Hutch. Have you heard a thing I've said?

[A]

You're laughing.

[B]

Well, you gave it away with the word Hutch. Yeah. Where has your head been lately?

[A]

Did you have a hard sleep last night? No, it was easy. He had an easy sleep. Genevieve Hutch had an easy sleep.

[B]

Comparable Swoozy Kurtz.

[A]

What movie?

[B]

Talking to Stephen Weber. Stephen Weber in Sleep Easy, Hutch rhymes.

[A]

I did not remember. Of course.

[B]

There's no. I don't remember one line.

[A]

No. You and I watched this movie once. Once, I think, in a hotel room.

[B]

It just came obsessed with.

[A]

And we're like, oh, Swoozie. Kurt. Stephen Webber. It's so bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We now have it on dvd because I believe I got it for you for your birthday or probably an anniversary, which is even more embarrassing or something. I don't even know if we have a DVD player that we can play it on. Did I say cd? We have it on dvd, I should say. And it's called Sleep Easy Hutch Rhymes. It's like a really bad, very cheaply made, sort of kind of noir.

[B]

Ish. It's a detective or it's a mystery, but there's like a lot of betrayal and some murder. I think it has kind of a dark ending, if I'm recalling correctly.

[A]

I think there's a woman who wants to kill her husband. Yeah.

[B]

It's like, that's got that noir element to it. I feel like. Spoiler alert. The ending ends with somebody in a boat, like, drowning underwater. Like in a. Stuck in a boat that sinks. The.

[A]

It doesn't even have, like, a real synopsis on IMDb. It just says an insurance company owner becomes embroiled in a murder plot. So that's as basic as you can get.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

Oh, and by the way, it was the only one because some of these. I was looking for help. I was looking. Going to IMDb quotes. I typed in Sleep Easy Hutch rhyme quotes, and it just said, we have no quotes. Yeah, it said, if you have any, you'd like to add. Sure, add them here. And I was like, that's not how this works. That's not. Can you imagine running some sort of a media thing where most of your content comes from your audience? That. For shame. For shame.

[B]

Who would. Who would do that?

[A]

Genevieve, I forgot to take notes of what points you were earning, but you got a lot of those right. You got a couple of them wrong. How does, like, I don't know, 7,500 points sound?

[B]

Great.

[A]

You good? Well, congratulations. You got 7,500 points. I don't feel like this was my best job hosting a show, but it is one the of the more fun shows I've done in a while. Thank you for doing it with me.

[B]

Thanks for letting me guest host.

[A]

Absolutely. And sorry to make you work on this day of service.

[B]

Well, I consider this to be public service.

[A]

That is a good point. That is a good point. You. You saved the show today. Thank you for listening, everybody. Sorry for posting the show a little bit later than usual, but I hope it finds you well. We don't know Luke's status, to be honest with you. Again, I don't think you have to worry about him. Maybe I should said at the beginning of the show. I think he just has a cold or something and it's making it or you know, like a flu or something and it's making him unable to talk which is really critical in in in this job of ours. So hopefully he will be back tomorrow. If not, I don't know. I'll find a Genevieve or a Genevieve alike to do this. Maybe we'll just roll back the quiz. You'll do even better tomorrow.

[B]

Oh, I'm gonna absolutely kill it tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah. So tonight. Don't, don't sleep hard. Sleep easy. Genevieve rhymes. In the meantime, I hope you all have a wonderful rest of your day. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Please remember, no mountain too tall and.

[B]

Good luck to all.

[A]

I just realized now it would have been funny if you had said good luck to Bananas.

[B]

Power out.