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Andrew
It was the bottom of the fifth quarter and the baskets were loaded. It was me versus the Boston Celtics basketball team. Ready to lose again, I said to Le James Braun. He was sweaty and out of breath. Please give me another chance, he said sexily. It's basketball time. I yelled in a booming voice. Then I did a layup, which is different than slam dunking. It's where you throw the basketball in the hoop when you're really close to it. I was too quick for them. I was dribbling all over the field and the Boston Celtics said, wow, she doesn't even double drib. Something I know about. Just then, Seth Curry did a humongous jump and tried to block me from the basketball hoop, but I threw the basketball so hard it went straight through his chest and into the hoop. But he was okay and didn't die. The basketball went in so good that I got 100 points and won the game. Can we please be your boyfriends now? Said the Baltimore Celtics. Sorry, that was a deal. You can only be my boyfriends if you beat me in a game of hoopball, I said winkingly. Then they all cried.
Andrew Walsh
The end. TBTL. I don't know what this is, but Jay says it's a big sea turtle.
Luke Burbank
I was just fixing to get me some grub.
Andrew Walsh
Beans. I love beans. Big, fat, hot, juicy beans.
Luke Burbank
Now, don't get me going on beans.
Andrew Walsh
Or I'll be jabbering away till the sun comes up.
Luke Burbank
Why would either one of you.
Andrew
You know why?
Luke Burbank
Dear God, why? Actually, you know what? I could email you. Or, you know, you could email me at splat2pletnet.net Splat1's my father. I mean, it'll be sad to see him go, but it'll be nice to get my hands on that handle, you know?
Andrew Walsh
And I also think it wouldn't hurt you to talk to a therapist about your bathroom issues, because there's clearly something going on there. All right.
Luke Burbank
Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of tbtl, the show. It just might be too beautiful, too live.
Andrew Walsh
If God wanted us to listen to.
Luke Burbank
Audiobooks, she wouldn't have given us eyes to watch tv. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host. Oh my God, he admitted coming to you from the Madrona Hill broadcast Center, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it is. Ugh, it's very rainy. Kind of yucky day up here, but didn't know you like to get wet, though. We will make it through, my friends, and we will arrive, as we have already, at episode 4652 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. Physically, I am here doing this podcast with all of you, but mentally, I am.
Andrew Walsh
Eight days.
Luke Burbank
No, sorry. Ten days ahead. Eleven days ahead. I'm thinking about the super bowl, my friends.
Andrew Walsh
I'm in a glass case of emotion.
Luke Burbank
Because the Seattle Seahawks are going to.
Andrew Walsh
Be playing in it.
Luke Burbank
And I am trying to figure out exactly what my plan should be for watching it and both honoring and being close to the people I love. But also. And by that, I mean the Seahawks, but also watching it with people I know. Still trying to figure it out. I might work it out on the air in real time live with all of you. Also. It's a Thursday, AKA Blursday. Today we'll do some blurs day messages and we are going to say hello to this handsome young stranger. He's a soulful rocker from New Hampshire, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships, their grace and their power. And what I've read online is his heroism yesterday.
Andrew Walsh
He might be a little fat, he might be a little drunk, but okay, he can sometimes yell at us a little, but he's the last superhero in the world.
Luke Burbank
He is Andrew Walsh, and he is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
Andrew Walsh
Good morning, Luke. I know we want to talk about heroics, by the way.
Luke Burbank
I don't even know far and wide.
Andrew Walsh
I don't even know what you tales.
Luke Burbank
Of your heroism are being heralded far and wide.
Andrew Walsh
I am a hometown hero, and when I say hometown, I mean very specifically the home that I live in.
Luke Burbank
Yeah. And actually specifically the basement.
Andrew Walsh
Very specific. Yeah. I'm a basement town hero.
Luke Burbank
And mostly the darts area. So hometown, meaning Seattle, meaning your neighborhood, meaning your house, meaning your basement, meaning the part where you play darts, which.
Andrew Walsh
I'm a little bit worried. I don't know if that. I don't know if I'm gonna have to, like, sort of temporarily temper my dart playing, as we have some because of the darts starting in the basement today.
Luke Burbank
But that's starting today, Andrew.
Andrew Walsh
The deconstruction is happening today. We got so much.
Luke Burbank
We call that demo. We have so much demo day.
Andrew Walsh
We have so much to talk about. We have so many things. But I do want to start with this. Just a small anecdote that will not get us super off track. But, fam, when I'm done recording with you here, I'm rushing off to K to record a podcast.
Luke Burbank
Pay for that Renault.
Andrew Walsh
That's right. And. And they do give a little stipend, as you know.
Luke Burbank
I don't know if it's going to the Walsh Principle.
Andrew Walsh
It's not going to. That's right. They do give you a little stipend. Oh, that's right. I said, this could not possibly get us off track. And here we are. They give you a little. What is it, 50 or 75?
Luke Burbank
$75.
Andrew Walsh
Which is. I never expected.
Luke Burbank
Nothing.
Andrew Walsh
Not at all. You get a check after you appear on one of these shows a couple of weeks later, and it's got a little sticker on it that says, please deposit immediately. Right, yeah.
Luke Burbank
Let me, if I can quickly, for the listeners, explain how I came to this information. You and I were talking off air about this gig of doing the Seattle now podcast with our friend Trish Murphy, and you said, yeah, you know, they send you this check. It's 75 bucks. It's not nothing. But also, you know, you rush right out to cash it. But then sometimes you got, you know, four or five of them, and you. You go to the bank and you're like, hey, that's real money. And I was like, yeah, that does sound like a way to do this. And then I got a check from them from my appearance, and it has a sticker, orange sticker that says, please deposit this as quickly as possible.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, they want to settle their books.
Luke Burbank
I texted you and I was like, they call this the Andrew Walsh Principle. And you're like, oh, no, no. I've seen that on every check. I just choose not to cash them in a timely manner.
Andrew Walsh
Very un Andrew like thing. Right. But I'm not great with mail, to be honest with you. That's what it is. Like physical mail that comes out. I kind of put it in a pile, whether it's like, incoming or outgoing, like a task I got to do or just a check I got to cash. Because you know me, I got a lot of checks. I got a cash. They just sort of sit there for a while. Then one day we dialed up and, yeah, I was kind of like, ooh, depositing all these and watching them kind of stack up there. Just again, stacking, stacking. Cheddar over here, Luke.
Luke Burbank
And cash and checks and breaking necks Wine mixer.
Andrew Walsh
Each one is a sticker that says, please, please be responsible. By the way, the day that I.
Luke Burbank
Got this tells you about our financial differences. The day I got it full on photo. Photo deposit to the checking account. Have I thrown the check out, Andrew? No, I have not, because I still don't trust.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, you got to go in and see when it's cleared. I always Go in the next day when it's cleared.
Luke Burbank
Even then, in case there's issues, in case there are issues later, I bought it. This is my most Andrew thing is that like I. I will never trust the. The photography around the check.
Andrew Walsh
Once I see it has passed into my account, then I throw the check away, which is usually the next day. But I get a reasonable response. I know we talk about this a lot, but like, I just don't think there's any. Of all of the Internet things, of all of the technological breakthroughs that I've witnessed in my life. I don't know if I appreciate any of them more than I appreciate just easy check deposit.
Luke Burbank
Can I tell you when I got that check out of the mail and then I took a picture of it, which by the way, I don't think my phone would let me send you a photo.
Andrew Walsh
That was weird.
Luke Burbank
It wasn't even the check. It was the other part of the check, the receipt. What do you call that? It just my phone, My phone sensed that I was sending you some sort of sensitive financial information and it kept blurring it and you were like, hey, I'm in a weird Internet connection.
Andrew Walsh
I can't say I assumed I was as in frame.
Luke Burbank
I always assume you're at fault and. And no, it was. I think it was my check trying to protect. Or my phone trying to protect me from sending sensitive financial information.
Andrew Walsh
It might have been, but every now and then, and I thought it was. It's when I'm in a bad Internet place, I will get a photo like that where the photo is all blurred out and then there's a little button that says you have to downlo this to see it, which is not usual practice. And then when I downloaded it downloads like a blank file. I think there was something corrupt in that photo because I googled it later. I'm like, does do Apple phones or iPhones. I call them Apple phones. I gotta stop doing that. It's not a bit. I Google do iPhone scramble check photos for security and I didn't see anything that backed me up. Unless you're seeing something different now. I heard you typing away over there.
Luke Burbank
Well, I was trying to find the photo in my text because what happened was it happened twice.
Andrew Walsh
Happened three times. You tried resending it, but it was always the same photo.
Luke Burbank
You were in the same place, but you were in the same bad Internet place.
Andrew Walsh
No, I was. It was. I was. I believe I came out of Fred Meyer, looked at my phone, saw a scrambled photo, but just assumed that Fred Meyer Might have had bad Internet or something or bad cell coverage. So I just texted you said, oh, I was in a bad. I was in a bad place.
Luke Burbank
But I sent it to you again and it was still but you said.
Andrew Walsh
The same photo, you didn't retake it. Right.
Luke Burbank
So you. But see that seems to. So you think the photo was corrupted. So we've moved on from the idea that it was bad Internet connectivity and now onto it was a corrupted photo maybe.
Andrew Walsh
I do think that something happened, but.
Luke Burbank
I think I'm going to find.
Andrew Walsh
But it might. Yeah, I'm not sure. I have no idea what happened there.
Luke Burbank
But it is, I'm arguing hard for you to be right, by the way, about this. Which is to say, well, yeah, because not right. I guess I'm arguing that this was. I guess I'm arguing for me to be right. I'm arguing that my phone knows when it's looking at a check stub. I guess I'm ultimately arguing my point.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I guess only because I've seen this happen before with non check photos. Although it is rare and I've always just chalked it up to bad Internet. But anyway, so let's see here. So let's see, what were we talking about? We weren't going to get side. Oh, we never even got to my point. So I'm going into KOW in a little bit here to record the weekly roundup, which is a kind of a what do they call casual Friday on Seattle now podcast. And I wait for the topics to get to me last night and I kind of had a busy night. And as you I apparently learned it got busier in a surprising way. But they send out the list of topics which is a very thorough breakdown of the topics and talking points and things to think about. It's actually really, really helpful. You kind of don't even have to read the articles. I do. But they do a really good job of prepping you, the producers. But that doesn't usually come out until I think I got it maybe around 5, 5:30 last night or something. So you're kind of all day waiting. It's like, I don't know, are we going to get into a conversation about like what will we do if we see an ice abduction in our neighborhood? Or is it all going to be like these five pizza shops claim to have the best French bread pizza? I don't know. And so I'm always waiting, like, is it going to be a heavy one? Do I have to do a lot of reading? I get the list of topics. Luke, listen to what we're talking about. Where's my bell? I'll bell it.
Luke Burbank
I gotcha.
Andrew Walsh
You got the bell. Okay, I'm gonna put my bell away then. Okay, you get ready with the bell. We've got talk about public transportation, TV commercials, grocery store shopping.
Luke Burbank
Wait, let me guess the last one. Seahawks.
Andrew Walsh
Yes. And not sports Seahawks, but Seahawks. Like where are you going? To watch the game. What's going on with the commercials?
Luke Burbank
And weirdly, Geauga County.
Andrew Walsh
I actually don't know that much about geography.
Luke Burbank
I didn't know.
Andrew Walsh
Look at me, I'm a kyahoga boy. Anyway, yeah, I was just like, well, that's a treat.
Luke Burbank
Take the night off.
Andrew Walsh
I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah. So I am interested in. I don't know. So apparently Genevieve posted something. I was going to tell you about a little adventure I had last night, but based on that intro you gave me, apparently you already have some intel and I'm sort of curious. I don't know if this is the right way to start this.
Luke Burbank
You're getting huge props online.
Andrew Walsh
What do you. What do you know? Is that a good place to start this? Or should I just tell the listeners what happened?
Luke Burbank
Maybe the story is more interesting if you kind of unfold it for all of us. I saw. Let me. What does Principal Blackman say?
Andrew Walsh
I'm an obtuse man, so I'll try to be oblique. That's not the line you were looking for. But it's my favorite.
Luke Burbank
That's exactly the line I was looking for. Let me be oblique. Let me be oblique. By the way, RIP to that actor. He was so good. Wait, no. We did this again. I don't think. I think that actor's very much alive. He just hasn't been in a lot of things that we've been seeing.
Andrew Walsh
Oh. Oh, okay.
Luke Burbank
Yeah. I think that. I think I pre memorialized him a few months ago on the show. Anyway, let me be.
Andrew Walsh
That's the part I remembered. That's why corrections don't work. When you said that, I was like, oh, that's right. He's gone. And I was just remembering you lying to me, apparently.
Luke Burbank
Yes, exactly. I'm glad, though, that I have that influence on you that I can. I have the power to. To create and destroy life in your mind. No, what I saw online was Genevieve saying that you guys had had a whole kind of thing happen last night. A fast paced, speed esque adventure last night that ended well. But why don't you pick up the story? This all Go down.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. So I told you, I kind of set up what my night was. I was kind of prepping for this little thing at KOW today. And then also remember when you and I were prepping for. For the show the other day, and we're actually having a pretty serious conversation. But then I started swearing because suddenly my inbox was filling up with New York Times emails telling me that I had just subscribed to, like, three different newsletters that I did not try to subscribe to. And it all started because I just saw a recipe online that I was like, oh, I'll save this for later. And I clicked one button, and all of a sudden, I don't even know. I still don't know what I hit. And suddenly my inbox is like, you're now following the midweek lunch newsletter from the New York Times. Anyway, last night I'm like, okay, what I'm going to do is I'm going to read, I'm going to do my little homework, and then I'm going to make this recipe that I saw in the New York Times involving shallots cooked with 12 shallots. Last night, Luke called, called for 15.
Luke Burbank
I can almost smell it.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, the house smells so good. Anyway, so I'm kind of doing my. My prep of both dinner and. And prepping for today's show. And then also what's kind of hanging over me is this fact. Some folks coming in today to sort of start dismantling our little kitchenette in the basement, which is going to be a project that we're going to be just kind of renovating that area and putting in cabinets and stuff that work better and aren't atrocious and torn up and swollen with moisture and what have you. So I knew that I had a night, or I assumed I had a night of, like, kind of cleaning out all these cupboards and filling. I had gone to Home Depot to get those big plastic tubs, you know, to store a bunch of stuff in, then haul it out to the garage sale.
Luke Burbank
Great Radiohead songs.
Andrew Walsh
Big plastic, plastic tubs. I. Anyway, so I kind of already had a full night, and I'm in the midst of cooking, and I haven't fired anything up yet, but I've patted the chicken dry. I'm peeling all these. These scallions. Then Genevieve comes home and we're talking about how we're going to approach the basement when I'm done cooking. And then. Then she's like, I shit.
Luke Burbank
I don't.
Andrew Walsh
I don't have my phone. I think I Lost my phone. But the thing is, I had just called her like, I don't know, 15 minutes earlier and she was on the train and she had picked, she, you know, she had picked up. The Germans have.
Luke Burbank
Must have a word for how we all think that we've lost our phone, but we haven't.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
In modern life. You know what I mean? Like, I think probably once every other day we all go, oh God, where's my phone? And you're padding the normal places. And then you have it. Usually you just put it somewhere else.
Andrew Walsh
Mobile Spectre. That's it.
Luke Burbank
That's exactly what it is.
Andrew Walsh
You think what it's called. I shouldn't even mess around with fake words in a language that I don't know because God knows what I just.
Luke Burbank
Greg Bevino. It's the German word for that.
Andrew Walsh
What's he up to anyway? So sleeping in a shoe somewhere. A size 9 boot, as I believe.
Luke Burbank
David Roth joke where credit is due.
Andrew Walsh
But then anyway, Genevieve's like, I can't find my phone. And I immediately. I struck a very Burbankian positivity tone. I was just like, I was just talking to you on Envy. I'm sure you didn't leave it on the bus. She takes a train, then grabs a bus for a few stops to get home. And she's like, well, you're talking to me on the train. But I don't know. But she says, I think I have a. I lost my phone or find my phone app or something. And I think for years I've been paying for some off brand version of that too because, you know, with iPhones, I just think it's all kind of bundled and you guys have everything. And it's a little bit more of a wild west, I think, when it comes to some of these apps, or at least it used to be. I think Google is doing a much better job now of sort of like bringing everything under the tent and kind of making it a little bit more seamless.
Luke Burbank
It's definitely very built into the iPhone. And the fact that Genevieve wouldn't even be sure or you wouldn't even be 100% sure if you had that service or whatever is funny to me because like that's this, this thing. I know that that is a thing on my phone because I have used it. Yeah, I just said that we never lose our phones, but I have used that, you know, a hundred times since I got an iPhone.
Andrew Walsh
Well, that's not to sound holier than thou, but I've never lost my phone. I don't even think I've had a. I don't even think I've had more of a five minute scare. And you know that five minutes is. I know it's in the house somewhere. I just don't know where I said it. But like I'm a very ritualized person, so it's always in my right hand pocket, you know. And you know, I'm totally. I'm gonna knock on all the fake wood around me, but I. Because I'm just constantly. It's. Keys are in the left pocket, phone is in the right pocket. I just always know where my stuff is. One of these days I'm sure I'll lose it and I'll rue this conversation. But anyway, so I, I think at one point I was like, yeah, I should have a find my phone thing. And like from some bowel of the Internet, about once a year at mid year, I get some email that just says, don't worry, we're renewing your subscription to whatever Janky. Find my phone. I signed up for when I had a G2 back in 2010 or something like that. Anyway.
Luke Burbank
Like a G6.
Andrew Walsh
Like a G6. Anyway, so I am unfamiliar with that stuff, but Genevieve just kind of runs to her computer and just types in like Find my phone or something generic like that. And it opens up Google Maps. And that's why I think that the andro. And she has a pixel phone, by the way, which is literally made by Google. So I think they really integrated it. She just typed in Find my Phone and she got something that looked very much like Google Maps and she could see where her phone was and her phone was not at home. So turns out she was right. She had left her phone somewhere, presumably on the bus. Like maybe it fell out of her. She's thinking maybe it fell out of her pocket. And she said she was reading her Kindle. I got her. It's not actually a Kindle. We don't do Amazon, as you know, Luke, because Amazon is a nickname and nicknames are for friends. Anyway, she was reading her ebook thing and so when she has her ebook thing, which is relatively new, she got it for Christmas. She's not constantly looking at her phone, holding her phone, listening to a podcast on her phone. So she, she. Apparently it slipped out on the bus or something and she's looking at this map and it's not showing it move in real time the way it would in a movie. It's not going like boop, boop, boop, you know, like a radar dot Moving further away.
Luke Burbank
Like the door dash bringing me a very expensive order from Taco Time.
Andrew Walsh
Right, exactly. Or waiting on a Lyft or an Uber. Right. For some reason, this technology doesn't quite have that, which maybe makes sense because the device is hopefully, you know, it could potentially be turned off or it could certainly be locked or something. So, anyway, so she keeps refreshing, but she's like, yeah, this thing is definitely on the move, but we also, at this point don't know, did she drop it on the bus and somebody picked it up and decided to, you know, just take it? Which I don't think, even though you see some really bananas behavior on some of the bus lines that we take and smashed phones and various weird things because somebody who has a chemical imbalance decided just to go to town on some little piece of property, I just don't think that the majority of bus riders find a phone and decide to do something, you know, malicious with it. I think that. I think the majority of people on any bus line, including my beloved E line, are gonna take that phone and give it to the bus driver. I think so. Absolutely.
Luke Burbank
And this is actually a good message in this of all weeks when there's so much coarseness between US citizens. I think you're right. I think most people are generally good, and then every once in a while you get an outlier, and then it's easy to sort of like, sort of expand and stereotype from that experience. But, yeah, most people are good.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. And also, you're. Not to mention finding a phone.
Luke Burbank
It's a pixel iPhone.
Andrew Walsh
Forget it. People love pixels. I. I also. You can't really unlock that. You know what I mean? You kind of have to be a master hacker for it to be of.
Luke Burbank
Any use to you anyway, face technology and fingerprint and the like.
Andrew Walsh
So anyway, all that is to say, Genevieve starts watching this blip. Now, keep in mind, we are at home. She's on her laptop computer, and she's been home at least 10 minutes now. But she's like, I think. I think it's on the bus. And I'm just like, I'm putting on my shoes. I'm like, we should just get in the car. I'm like, here's what we're going to do. You already. Her computer was already somehow immediately synced up to her phone. I think it's. I think it's because she's logged in as herself on her phone into her Gmail account or her Google account. She's logged into her computer and her Google account account and so it just knew, oh, I know what phone I'm looking for. So she immediately gets this thing. I'm like, we got to get in the car and track that thing. But your computer doesn't take. You know, your computer will lose its WI FI signal the second we leave the home. So I put on a. I turned my phone into a mobile hotspot. Right.
Luke Burbank
Nice.
Andrew Walsh
And so I'm like, so keep your computer.
Luke Burbank
Log your computer to the movie Sneakers.
Andrew Walsh
That's right. Which I was mad wrong about. Did you hear that? Like, loud wrong. Apparently, the old person who plays the young Robert Redford, it's still a bad casting. They cast the other old guy, but it's not even Robert Redford. I don't even know if I ever corrected the record. A listener pointed it out to me, and he sent me links and proof and screenshots. So twice now, they dressed a different.
Luke Burbank
Person up to look like Robert Redford, but obviously too old, but still too.
Andrew Walsh
Old for the flashback scenes.
Luke Burbank
Get a young. I need an old Robert Redford and a young Robert Redford. Get a Galifianakis.
Andrew Walsh
Right? Anyway, so I'm like, here's what we're going to do. You attach your computer to the WI FI hotspot on my phone. I'll drive. You track. So we get in the car. She's got her laptop open. Obviously, tensions are running high here. We are now chasing the 40 line, but the 40 line has a hell of a head start on us, Right? Because we yet does. You know, again, Genevieve's been home for a while.
Luke Burbank
Walked to your place. Opposite direction, presumably. Or maybe not, but just walked.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. You guys talked.
Luke Burbank
You said hi. Hello.
Andrew Walsh
She smelled my shallots. Yes. She said hello to Bingo, who had blood work yesterday. It was a very adventurous day for the whole family.
Luke Burbank
Anyway, the bus is long gone.
Andrew Walsh
The bus is gone, but Genevieve's tracking it. And she's also using my phone not just as a hotspot, but also to sort of track what the 40s, what the 40 line's route is on the phone to make sure while she's got her.
Luke Burbank
It's not just straight. I was assuming it was straight up and down Aurora, but that would be the E line.
Andrew Walsh
That's the E line.
Luke Burbank
40 is a little bit more kind of windy.
Andrew Walsh
Remember I told you that time this summer where we went to, like, one of the fanciest parties ever in one of the fanciest parts of Seattle, which I think it was Seward park, but it took us three hours to get there because Genevieve Wanted to take the 40 there. So we had some understanding. The 40 is a pretty winding route, but it goes past our house on North Gateway, down Holman Road, through the heart of Ballard. Ballard, into Fremont, across the Fremont Bridge, into downtown. And so, Luke, you know, none of this is the fastest way to get downtown. It's just like serving all these, which kind of actually helps other communities in this kind of. If we had been smarter. So when we get in the car, instead of like immediately thinking we gotta, like, cut left on Aurora and, like, try to cut this bus off, I'm just like, let's follow the bus. We will catch up. The bus has stops to make and we don't. And even though it's sort of, you know, the last of the rush hour traffic, we're stuck in it. The bus is stuck in it. The bus has to make stops. We don't. The bus also has its own lane, though, in some scenarios. Right, right, right, right.
Luke Burbank
So we're like, faster than you. In certain parts.
Andrew Walsh
In certain parts. But it also does have to make stops. So we're like, I don't know. So we're trying to. And we're bickering a little bit about, like, should we take a left on Greenwood and try to cut it off or go straight? We end up going straight. That was my idea. And I probably. In the long run, you're Sandy Bullock.
Luke Burbank
And Genevieve is Keanu Reeves. I can see it. I love this.
Andrew Walsh
It's Fried Green Tomatoes. Exactly. It's exactly like Fried Green Tomatoes.
Luke Burbank
Tawanda.
Andrew Walsh
So I. God, I love film. Anyway, so at first I'm just kind of like, listen, I know what the 40 do. Like, Genevieve was looking, she's like, it's in Salmon Bay now. I'm like, salmon Bay is Ballard. I know where it goes in Ballard. It's going to go. It's going to go past Sonic Boom. Like, let's go, let's go. And so I'm driving and we're chasing this bus. And again, just for the record, I think Genevieve's right. We should have probably started thinking more strategically early, but we're just very scrambled. We'd never done this before. And so I'm driving through.
Luke Burbank
You've never been in a speed type.
Andrew Walsh
Situation or a Fried Green Tomatoes kind of situation or whatever reference you want to use. Postcards from the edge. Postcards from the edge. And so anyway, we're following the route, but Genevieve is constantly. She's like, the only way to do this is she's also using my phone, which is Plugged into, like, our car to start saying, listen, I know the bus is going to pass this location at some point. Let's. I think at one point we were using this English bar called the Georgian Dragon. You probably know it's been there forever in Fremont. Like, the bus is maybe five minutes away from that. So Genevieve's like, let's use. And I know the bus is going to pass it, so. So let's use that as a point on your map, Andrew, and just see the fastest route to get there. So we're kind of doing that over and over again. Trying to, like, drive faster than the bus going off the route a little bit. Using my phone to try to, like, get me the fastest route to these locations. Trying to cut off the bus. It's. It's feeling bleak. I'll be honest with you. Really. The bus is getting closer. And I don't know. This is maybe just the psychology of this, but, like, Genevieve and I keep on. Well, she's. She's watching it and she's telling me. But for some reason, the bus going over the cut seemed like some sort of a psychological barrier to us. When we say the cut, it's this area, Montlake Cut, via the Montlake Cut, where there's a, you know, in a couple of different places, bridges that go over it. But it basically kind of separates the city from north to south. And we're just kind of like. And I don't want to go over the Fremont Bridge. I'm like, that is going be to. That's just gonna. Like, the bridge could be up, first of all, like these bridge. Like, the bus could go over the bridge, and then the bridge could go up.
Luke Burbank
The bus could jump a gap in the bridge.
Andrew Walsh
That's right. I'm ready to jump a gap. By the way, you can't.
Luke Burbank
And then you get stopped and you go, ah.
Andrew Walsh
And I have. I had put turbo power on our car a long time ago. Never used it, though. I get a bill every. Every year for $35 that says, remember when you installed the turbo power app? Is that what they called it? Knight Rider, by the way? It was a turbo power. Oh.
Luke Burbank
I was thinking more spy hunter, but yes, I'm sure they said turbo power.
Andrew Walsh
There was some, but because the car could race around and drop.
Luke Burbank
Right. Isn't there a drop where it says it's that where Michael Knight says, it's time for turbo. Something maybe I'm thinking of. I think you should leave when they do turbo time. This ever happened to you?
Andrew Walsh
I don't Think I have any drop? I do have some Knight Rider drops.
Luke Burbank
That are really not about the turbo ness of it.
Andrew Walsh
But I'm happy to just empty out the. The clip here if you want to hear.
Luke Burbank
What's he. I tell you to get this through.
Andrew Walsh
Your head, but you're a machine, so run this through your data processor. Get lost. So good. How about this?
Luke Burbank
I kind of holding that aluminum box. Seriously?
Andrew Walsh
And then this one. Are you okay?
Luke Burbank
Are you all right?
Andrew Walsh
No, no. I'm confused. Nothing makes sense to me anymore. This face is not my face face. My whole world has disappeared and. And now I'm talking to a car. This is not the time to have this conversation. But I'm realizing now that that last drop and the first one were from the very first episode of Knight Rider.
Luke Burbank
Well, of course, that's when Michael Knight realizes he's been given a new face.
Andrew Walsh
Okay, so you're familiar with the actual story? I had no. We went back and watched the pilot and could not believe how unnecessarily batshit it is. The rest of the series doesn't have to have anything to do with him having a new face.
Luke Burbank
Last of the series is guy lives with gay car.
Andrew Walsh
Why did he have to go to some mysterious, like, mansion somewhere? It's never explained why this rich guy wants to transplant his face.
Luke Burbank
I thought he was in an accident. He is that not the. I mean, I haven't watched this in.
Andrew Walsh
Sort of a sting at a casino, I believe. And he's a cop, and his partner watches him get. I want to say shot.
Luke Burbank
He's wearing a mask. In Congress votes, they have to take the masks off. So he gets a face transplant.
Andrew Walsh
Right, Exactly. They said the guy who shot you in the face just needs more regulation is what they said.
Luke Burbank
But no, my memory of the show was that he's in some sort of an accident. And again, you watched it more recently than I did. My memory was Michael Knight is somehow in an accent and he gets not only a new face, but a new car.
Andrew Walsh
That is true. I'm trying to look it up. I think you're right. And maybe he is disfigured in some way. And so that's why they have to put a new face on him. But it's also because he also has to, like, give up his identity and his identity cards and stuff. I remember that's a big part, by the way.
Luke Burbank
I would love nothing more than to wake up and have David Hasselhoff's face.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, I would take that. What a good deal. Oh, especially then for the average CIS.
Luke Burbank
Male identified person, like, what a win. What a w. What did Michael Knight look like before he was David Hasselhoff?
Andrew Walsh
Self made billionaire Wilton Knight rescues police detective lieutenant Michael Arthur long after a near fatal gunshot to the face. So the face is disfigured there, giving him a new face through plastic surgery and a new identity and name. Michael Knight. And I remember, by the way, I remember this was a detail in the pilot, some like person who works for the billionaire. And by the way, billionaire even in 1982. That's a lot of money. I thought it would be a millionaire. One of his employees says to him, boy, he sure looks familiar. So I think that this rich Wilton Knight guy kind of gave Michael Knight his own face when he was like a younger, more handsome man. It's like a way of him extending his own legacy, I think.
Luke Burbank
Andrew, can we just take a quick. I know that we said we weren't going to get off the track with the story of heroism, but I was trying to kind of backstop you on the sort of Knight Rider lore. So I put into the Internet Knight Rider plot. And here's what I said. Michael Knight alone. This isn't about you being wrong. This is about the insidious nature of AI Michael Knight, a lone undercover agent saved from death by a billionaire who fights crime alongside Kit, an indestructible. Wait for it, Andrew. AI power. AI powered supercar. AI powered.
Andrew Walsh
That. It's just AI is claiming that Kit is AI Powered. But yes, Wouldn't Kit almost have to be AI Powered? Because Kit.
Luke Burbank
Yes, but we didn't call it that back.
Andrew Walsh
But it would somehow.
Luke Burbank
I feel like they're. Okay, you're siding with the robot.
Andrew Walsh
Well, that would have to be the technology if you have a talking car that can process information. I mean, it's literally like that's, that's.
Luke Burbank
I'm just saying, when I was playing Knight Rider on the playground, none of us were calling it AI And I feel like AI is stolen valor. I feel like this is stolen AI Valor from the robots. Now relating to the robots of. Of yesteryear.
Andrew Walsh
I do think it's fascinating that like Wikipedia doesn't say AI but the AI overview. But the AI overview is like, hey, hermano.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Andrew Walsh
I recognize this. Anyway, where were we?
Luke Burbank
You were waiting to see if Knight Rider jumps from on lake cut.
Andrew Walsh
So anyway, Genevieve and I are concerned about the bus going over the cut for some reason. We just sort of feel like if we lose the bus, maybe that's putting too fine a point on it. But there's a sort of psychology in the car as Genevieve and I are feeling a little bit glum about this and, like, racing around the streets of Seattle. But also, I'm trying not to race too much because this is how, you know, I'm an old man. Back in the day, I was a very aggressive driver, and now I'm, like, driving a little bit over the limit, like maybe by five miles or something. But I'm not driving like a crazy person because I keep thinking if I get pulled over right now, that phone is gone. I honestly believe that. Not slow and steady, but, you know, hurried. But steady is way better than doing some crazy moves as I'm driving through, you know, rush hour traffic through some pretty busy areas on a rainy, dark night, by the way. Right.
Luke Burbank
You're doing the math of 4 miles additional per hour versus 15 minutes of being stopped by the police at the very least.
Andrew Walsh
Right. And then. And then having to explain the situation. So anyway, so we're. We're in this sort of like, low speed chase sort of situation. Genevieve, by the way, like I said, she has to keep refreshing the computer on her. On her lap. They call it a computer on your lap. And computer powered by AI because it's not like automatically up updating. And so it's just. She's like, I think we're still on track. I think it's still on the bus. Because there's always this question of could the phone leave the bus? You know, bag.
Luke Burbank
I didn't want to get ahead of the story, but yeah, I mean, from the. From the moment of realizing this, you are assuming that it is on the bus, but not in someone's bag, because that's a whole other situation.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, that's totally.
Luke Burbank
If you get on the bus, if you. If you locate the bus and the phone is still allegedly with it, then the real mystery begins, which is, is it in the pocket or bag of somebody on this bus?
Andrew Walsh
Right. And then if that's the case, or somebody who was on the bus and is now leaving the bus, because that's what one of the things Genevieve's doing on my phone is actually looking at the route of the 40 and then using her laptop to see kind of where we are. And actually her laptop isn't even showing where we are. So she's trying to. It's. It feels like 1995. She's kind of like, what are we on the. The corner of, like, 15th and Republican or whatever.
Luke Burbank
The Thomas Guide out.
Andrew Walsh
She's got the Thomas Guide Out. She's got a AAA triptych. For some reason. I don't know how they had the forethought to put that thing together. She's got highlighter marks. It's showing where the construction is.
Luke Burbank
But anyway, gas station, it's just 11 miles.
Andrew Walsh
I think this is one of those things where this was pretty, in the parlance of my father, the technology, the technology we were using yesterday was pretty slick. Having said that, it's going to seem so antiquated in 10 years. Like it didn't show us on the map. It only showed where her phone was on the map. She had to keep refreshing the map. We had to keep like comparing it to my phone on my map and everything. Whereas, you know, in the future, hopefully it'll just show a blipping moving marker where the phone is and a blipping moving marker where you are. And like how, how close are we together? But Genevieve has to like do some triangulating and some mapp in the passenger seat. And we're taking some, you know, we're taking some shortcuts now, cutting across various neighborhoods, saying, okay, we're going to get here and then we're going to try to cut it off before it gets to the bridge. But it gets to the bridge. Now we're heading downtown and But I'm like, we got to be making progress on this. Like, even though we're not catching it as fast as we hoped, like we have to be making progress on it. I'm concerned the bus is going to get to the end of its line, turn around and start heading back. And I don't know where that happens. I know it goes downtown. I don't know if it goes through downtown. Downtown. But we are, I think somewhere between Fremont. Oh no. You know where we are, Luke? We are down at like kind of the, the bottom of Denny Hill. What would that be? Is that South Lake? Yeah, we're in South Lake Union. Isn't there a big Whole Foods or something on west probably? Yeah, it's like West Lake and Denny or something like that. We're kind of in that area and you know, things are complicated in that.
Luke Burbank
Area and traffic is. It can be intense down there. Yeah, Mercer and all that can get really kind of.
Andrew Walsh
It's a lot of one way streets and it gets really clogged and you also have like streets will totally just shut off and become bus only streets. And so that's kind of a problem too if we want to be chasing this bus. But somewhere around there, Genevieve is like we're just crossing, I think maybe Westlake and Republican. And she's like, now it says that we passed it. It. I'm like, well, we haven't seen any buses. She's like, oh, no. But it also says it hasn't updated. And she's hitting refresh. Refresh. She's like, it hasn't updated in, like, two minutes. But it must be in front of us. But it says it's behind us now. And we're like. And then all of a sudden, like a beacon in the night in front of us, I saw a bus, and it had two numerals on the back of it. 4 and 0. My Genevieve, that's your bus. Now the music.
Luke Burbank
And you immediately just T boned it. I said, well, there's your bus rammed right into it.
Andrew Walsh
I said, get out. I found your bus. You hired me to find the bus, not fight the bus. So I kicked her out of the car. No. So then we start chasing the bus, but we don't know. Genevieve's like, you gotta get in front of the bus and then get me and drop me off at the next bus stop in front of the bus. But she's like, Cause, like, how do.
Luke Burbank
You pull over a bus?
Andrew Walsh
How do you pull over a bus? We don't have any flashing lights or anything like that. But I'm like, jenna, I can't get in front of the bus. Cause the bus is in this area now, in this very congested area. And now going downtown, going into Belltown. Now, Luke, if you can sort of picture that. And the bus is taking turns. Like, you know, it's not on a single road the way it was, you know, way up north here. It's taking a lot of turns, meaning I don't trust myself to get in front of this bus and pull over and drop you off at a bus stop. Because I don't know which way this bus is going to. And we're trying to triangulate that. But for a second, I'm like, alongside the bus. But then the bus takes a left.
Luke Burbank
And I'm like, is there any waving to the driver from Genevieve? Because, I mean, what would the driver even make of that? But did that even come into play?
Andrew Walsh
Not yet. Okay, so we're the bus. So I'm like, genevieve, I gotta get behind the bus. I'm just thinking, like, we gotta get behind the bus. We're gonna be coming up to some pretty big stops in the more urban, dense centers of.
Luke Burbank
God, what I would have paid to just be in the backseat of this car, listening to this conversation. I love it. This is really like an action movie.
Andrew Walsh
It really kind of. I gotta say, when we saw the bus, it felt like trying to think whose music I would want here. Maybe a P.T. anderson, maybe Yorgos Lanthimos. Like, you know how he. I don't know, some sort of. Like, we see the bus and it's just kind of like the music. Like, the action scene begins in my head. So we're literally chasing this bus. Talk about a slow, slow speed chase. And then finally, somewhere in Belltown, at a very big bus stop, actually, this might just be downtown proper, actually, at this point, we just. The bus pulls over and I'm waiting for it. I'm like, is it stopping here to actually let riders on and off? I'm waiting for the telltale sign of it to put on its flashing lights. So the bus stops at this big. And I pull up behind it and I stop. But I'm not supposed to be there. I'm just in a bus lane in this kind of big bus area. And I'm like, turn on your flashers. Turn on your flashers. Turn on. And then boom, he turns on his flashers. And then I'm like, go. Genevieve gets out of the car. She still has her laptop. And she runs up to the bus and apparently she runs into the back door. I've now lost sight of her. And, like, we're having. We were having a conversation before in the car. While we're stressfully triangulating. I'm like, well, what is the plan? If you get. If you get on the bus.
Luke Burbank
Yes.
Andrew Walsh
With your computer, and then you're looking for your phone on the bus, and the bus takes off and you don't find your phone. I'm completely out of touch with you. You don't have a phone to call me in. You're on a bus, I'm in a car. I guess I just keep following the 40 around. Like, I'm not sure how this is all going to go down if you get on that bus, but can't find the phone. But anyway, right now we're feeling. I'm just feeling pretty excited, the fact that you even found the bus. So Genevieve just runs out of the.
Luke Burbank
Car, takes a cold roll out of the car, holding her laptop, somehow maintains.
Andrew Walsh
The laptop, holds the laptop, runs out of sight for me. And now I'm sitting behind the bus, and there's some transit workers, or at least there's one transit worker in a bright yellow vest sort of just kind of milling about. And I Put on my flashers. And the person isn't really looking at me with a lot of scrutiny. But I do think for a second, this guy looks at me like, how long is this car gonna just sit behind this bus? I'm not supposed to be there. Right. But the bus in front of me still has his flashers on. Genevieve has been gone for, I don't know, 30 seconds now. Now maybe a minute. And I'm like, what's going on on that bus? I don't know.
Luke Burbank
And again, I'm sorry to keep revisiting this, and we already said we're not gonna stereotype bus riders, because some of my very best co hosts are bus riders. But I feel like there is also the very real possibility that somebody who is currently on the bus found the phone and maybe put it in their pocket or their bag. Again, not to. Not to say people on the bus would do that, but that's the part that I would have been really stressed. I mean, along with the fact that you couldn't contact her is like, what happens if she gets on there? We know the phone's on the bus, but we don't find. We don't see the phone. And now it's like, what kind of an inquisition are we dealing with to get the phone back?
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. I could see Genevieve even just saying to everybody on the bus, hey, has anybody found a phone? You know? Right.
Luke Burbank
That would be the way to handle.
Andrew Walsh
It, by the way.
Luke Burbank
It's like. It's like. It's like, God, sorry, everything comes back to Minnesota. But it's like the pivot that I saw a lot of people doing online, including Tim Waltz, which I thought was very smart, which was, look, if you supported ICE or just like, if you voted for Trump or if you even thought, ICE needs to come in and get rid of these, quote, unquote, you know, criminals or whatever. It's not too late to change, and it doesn't make you a bad person if you. If you did think that. But now you can change, and you don't lose your, you know, standing in our world. I think that's a very. Actually a very smart approach, because one of the issues with this kind of stuff is people get really locked in to a worldview, and it almost feels like they can't.
Andrew Walsh
If they.
Luke Burbank
If they think about their worldview critically, they're. They're questioning their own sort of existence anyway. That's a long way to say. I think the move would be to say, did anybody. Did anybody find my phone? Not. Not, did anybody Steal my phone.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, of course. Right, right, right. He's just screaming in a bus. Which one of you m efforts told my phone?
Luke Burbank
She's Amanda Plummer in the opening seat of Pulp Fiction. Everybody be cool. This is a robbery. So that's actually Tim Roth who says.
Andrew Walsh
That, but that is. Yeah, she's Honey Bunny.
Luke Burbank
She's the Tim Roth. And you're the Amanda Plummer in this movie.
Andrew Walsh
That's right. God, I love fried green tomatoes. Anyway, so Genevieve's out of sight. I'm behind this bus. Maybe it's been 90 seconds now, which, you know, Luke, like, that's a long time. People think if time is a flat circle when you're measuring things in seconds, it doesn't seem like that long, but, like, 90 seconds is like a full commercial break that is driving you crazy.
Luke Burbank
When you are in a total information black hole.
Andrew Walsh
That's right. Yeah. When you're just sitting there, you're. I'm behind the. I'm behind the bus. And I'm just like, I don't know what's going on in that bus. I mean, that bus. A couple of things could happen. I could see Genevieve jump off that bus and suddenly come into view from me, joyful, because she found her phone. I could see her getting off that bus looking dejected and sad. I could see the bus's flashers go off and the bus start to pull away from me while I still sit in the car without a Genevieve.
Luke Burbank
An old Fashioned donnybrook. Three people, including Genevieve, tumble off the bus mid fisticuffs.
Andrew Walsh
Yes, it just looks like a cloud of dust.
Luke Burbank
Yes, it's not a donnybrook unless there's a cloud of dust.
Andrew Walsh
Yes, that's right. It looks like a Charles Schultz cartoon. So anyway, I don't know what's happening, but I'm just waiting. I'm just waiting. And then all of a sudden, I just see Genevieve come into sight off of the bus, literally jumping up and down and waving at me with her phone in one hand and her laptop in the other and running to the car. And so she gets in the car and she's like. She's like, oh, they had it. They had it. Jalapeno, jalapeno, jalapeno. And this is very relevant to, I think, what we've been talking about, the nature of human beings. She said she ran under the bus. I was picturing her going into the front door of the bus, and very first order of business, saying to the bus driver, did anybody turn in a phone? But because she was closer to the back of the bus. She actually ran out of the car, darted into the back door of the bus and looked around where she had been sitting and didn't see anything. And I guess just luckily the bus is not pulling off at this point. So then she runs to the front of the bus and says, did anybody. Did you find a phone or anything? And he said, somebody turned it in and he handed it to her. I think without. Boy, you know, I'd even ask her about this, but remember that time you lost or just like temporarily set down your earbuds in a hotel in Miami and they didn't trust you to give them back? You're like, I just described them white.
Luke Burbank
Cage, by the way, the sarcastically named Good Time Hotel right there.
Andrew Walsh
It's like, we gotta prove that these are yours. We have to do forensics to see if the earwax that is left on these earbuds.
Luke Burbank
We have to start playing Pod Save America in one of these ears.
Andrew Walsh
Just prove it was you. Anyway, apparently none of that happened. The guy just gave Genevieve her phone and she came skipping off the bus. And then. And now I'm still like, kind of in a bus only area, but for somehow I'm also just like, discombobulated. I kind of don't know where we are. And we end up pulling up alongside the bus and the hero bus driver. So keep in mind, like, I'm. Now the bus has pulled away from the stop, and now it stopped at a red light, as are we. But I think we're both in bus only lanes. We're to the left of the bus, meaning that Genevieve in the passenger side can look up out her window at the bus driver, the hero bus driver who just gave her her phone back. And so I actually start leaning over and waving to him, and then he's waving at us. And I believe I never saw any of this, but I believe Genevieve took a photo of this bus driver through their respective windows. And is that the photo that she posted to Instagram with some sort of.
Luke Burbank
Well, I can't find it because it was a story. So it went by and I don't know how to get back to it. If I go to Genevieve's page, it's just posts. I don't think it was a picture of Kathy Bates from Fried Green Tomatoes as the bus driver, but it was.
Andrew Walsh
This is fascinating because I didn't think that Genevieve knows how to do stories. That's the interesting thing about that.
Luke Burbank
Well, I'm at. Is it possible I saw it on a Different social media platform other than Instagram.
Andrew Walsh
Well, you need to be. I haven't seen it, so.
Luke Burbank
Well, that's the only one I'm on. Unless you put it on TikTok.
Andrew Walsh
I'll take a look here.
Luke Burbank
So here's what I was struck by. First of all, that's an amazing story. I can't believe you guys pulled that off. That is like, like freaking awesome. That's flipping awesome. In the words of Fernando Mendoza. But. But Genevieve was very, like, very. How do I put it? Super sort of complimentary to you in her post. Like, you were named.
Andrew Walsh
I'm looking at it now. You're right. It was a story. Which, first of all, I'm super proud of Genevieve for posting a story.
Luke Burbank
You were the hero. I felt like you were a hero of this story.
Andrew Walsh
She used the word heroically, literally and figuratively. Jumped in the car and we chased the moving phone all over the. All over the way to Pike Place Market. That's right. That's. That's basically where we end up coming.
Luke Burbank
Out, threw a fish and then filmed it for an interstitial of an NFL game on Fox.
Andrew Walsh
That's right. God, where do they come up with that?
Luke Burbank
I don't know. Pearl Jam. I mean, how do they think of these things?
Andrew Walsh
I got a little story for you. Anyway, that was the story. We got the damn phone back. And it was kind of funny. I was. I was later on thinking about where I was putting the probability of getting the phone back at various times during this.
Luke Burbank
I want to see the poly markets on this.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, right.
Luke Burbank
I want to see the real time, you know, sort of probability like they'll do with the football games now or the Mariners games. I want to see what was going on in your mind.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, exactly. Because I. I remember asking Visa what. What did you think that the. The possibilities were? She's like, I was pretty pessimistic most of the time, but then once we saw the bus, like, once you saw the bus, you're just like, all my job right now is hell or high water. We attach ourselves to this bus. If that means driving through bus only lanes, if that means. If this is one of those duck boats that goes on water, we'll find ways.
Luke Burbank
Got it. If we have to blow a kazoo and do some kind of dance to ymca.
Andrew Walsh
What is. What is that? Oh, is that.
Luke Burbank
I believe they do that on the duck.
Andrew Walsh
Those duck boats.
Luke Burbank
They don't have a lot of that.
Andrew Walsh
There was a really bad duck boat accident here in Seattle. And so they're not. They don't operate here anymore, do they? Just occurred to me, I haven't seen a duck boat in forever, but is that just because maybe I'm not driving the highways and duckways of duck boat?
Luke Burbank
The highways and quackways.
Andrew Walsh
It was a better stab at it than what I offered.
Luke Burbank
Let's see, Ride the Ducks is an amphibious tour. Permanently ceased operation in 2020 following 2015 crash.
Andrew Walsh
So you were as well as.
Luke Burbank
You were absolutely right about that.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
I mean, they do. I believe they do definitely exist in other cities. And I once took Addie on Ride the Ducks. And I just remember Ken, I'm just like, what? An unfun dad. In a way, a fun dad that I was like, let's do Ride the Ducks. But then an unfun dad that I was like, I refused to do ymca.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, God. I don't blame you, though, on the.
Luke Burbank
Bus because, you know, it's a. It's one of those. It's participatory kind of thing.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah, right. I. I mean, that. That's a night that's an absolute nightmare. Nightmare for me. You remember the photo of me being a little kid and people are just, happy birthday to me. And I forget my hands pressed firmly over my ears because I just.
Luke Burbank
Well, that would have been one of the letters. I think it's Y. M. That could.
Andrew Walsh
Have been the M. Yeah.
Luke Burbank
You were kind of doing it sort.
Andrew Walsh
Of between the M and the Surrender Cobra. Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Well, congratulations to you and Veeves. That is really cool. I'm so glad that worked out. And it was. That was a. That was a fun story for us all to get to hear about. All right, let's thank some donors. These are the incredible generous people who, if they found a phone on the bus, they would immediately turn it in to the driver because they're.
Andrew Walsh
They're. They're good.
Luke Burbank
They're morally upright. They're citizens of the world, Andrew. And they are supporters of TBTL. And the only way this thing can happen five days a week, 52 weeks a year, is because of the support of folks like Gray Chapman of San Jose, California.
Andrew Walsh
Thank you, Gray. Appreciate that.
Luke Burbank
Thank you, Gray.
Andrew Walsh
Be Gray Chapman sounds potentially like a singer songwriter name. I don't know if Gray is considered becoming a singer songwriter, but.
Luke Burbank
Well, there was a Christian singer named Stephen Curtis Chapman when I was a kid. So your instincts are right here, Andrew. Not that Gray Chapman is a singer, songwriter or even a contemporary Christian artist, but that the name sounds like it could be whatever Gray is doing in San Jose. We appreciate Gray redirecting some of that income towards tbtl. So this can be our job. Thank you, Gray. Thanks to Alyssa Adelson of Bellevue, Washington, or Adelson.
Andrew Walsh
Thank you, Alyssa. Appreciate that. Oh, I'll see you in March. There's a big announcement. I don't know if it's March or April, but that is when the. Sometime this spring. They've announced an opening day for the train line that will connect the two cities.
Luke Burbank
Oh, I just thought you had plans to go to, like, the Din Tai Fung in Bellevue, but you were.
Andrew Walsh
I need to make. I need to make some plans in Bellevue and then take the train over there.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, absolutely. And then I was going to say leave your phone, but don't. Actually, you guys, you've gotten away once with this. Let's not test fate. Thanks, Alyssa. Thanks also to Annette Streak of Brampton, Ontario.
Andrew Walsh
I am checking the schedule and it does not.
Luke Burbank
When does the train get to Brampton? Andrew?
Andrew Walsh
It's going to be a while. It's going to be a while. But it's not about the train.
Luke Burbank
You know, there is a train. And you know, the monkeys wrote a song about it. Take the train to Brampton Take the.
Andrew Walsh
Last train to Brampton I'll meet you at the station.
Luke Burbank
Isn't there a story that, like, did the monkey. The monkeys didn't write their music initially and then they wrote the music on head. Is that what that was?
Andrew Walsh
I don't know all the ins and outs. I know that Neil diamond wrote a bunch of their hits, though. Okay, that's that one.
Luke Burbank
I think that's Last Trains. That's so interesting.
Andrew Walsh
I'm not sure if he wrote that one. Let me double check.
Luke Burbank
Sounds like a Neil diamond song, though. Like take the last train to Clarkston and I'll meet you in the morning. Like, you know, know. Although I guess if you sing any song like that, yeah, it sounds like a Neil diamond song. Like Red Red Wine, for instance, which I only found out about through UB40. But it's like, you sing it Neil diamond style.
Andrew Walsh
Red red Wine. So not Last train to Clarksville. That is not written by Neil diamond, but it was written by other songwriters. But let me just type in Monkey's Neil diamond song while I'm thanking donors.
Luke Burbank
Andrew. See, we're multitasking here because you got places to be. While I'm thanking Sarah Wilcox of Tacoma, Washington.
Andrew Walsh
Nice. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I'm a believer I couldn't leave her if I tried. That's.
Luke Burbank
I saw it when I saw her face.
Andrew Walsh
That's from the movie Shrek.
Luke Burbank
He wrote that for the movie Shrek.
Andrew Walsh
See that?
Luke Burbank
He wrote that for Smash Mouth for the movie Shrek.
Andrew Walsh
I'm a believer. What a great song. That is a Neil diamond written song, I believe.
Luke Burbank
I was like walking by some people in Miami and I walked by a person who just learned in real time that the lead singer of smash mouth is no longer alive because of that song. That song was playing coming out of one of the, like, you know, on Ocean Avenue there in Miami Beach. It was coming out of somewhere, the smash mouth version of Then I saw her face and somebody said, yeah, that guy's dead. And somebody said, neil Diamond. And they went, no, the Smash Mouth guy. And that's what I just. It just doppelgangered right past me.
Andrew Walsh
And first of all, I love picking up little snippets of other people's conversations.
Luke Burbank
We were doing that the whole trip. We kept finishing, Bex and I. Our thing was we would hear like two seconds of a conversation and then we would do an entire build out like AI can do with a photograph now.
Andrew Walsh
Right.
Luke Burbank
We would just build out the edges of the conversation.
Andrew Walsh
Right, right, right. But that. And that happened somewhat recently. Right. Because he was kind of had a troubled life, or am I thinking.
Luke Burbank
Yes, he had a troubled. Yeah, I mean, recently as in in the last five years. Which to you and I feels recent. I don't know what it feels like to Andrew Kugelman in Seattle, Washington, but I know that Andrew has recently been donating to T. TBTL because his name is on this list.
Andrew Walsh
That's right.
Luke Burbank
And we really appreciate it. Thank you, Andrew. And then of course, where would we be without Christine Mello of Wiley, Texas? Christine is all the way over there in Wiley, Texas, sending in some money to TBTL So this can happen. Thanks, Christine.
Andrew Walsh
Appreciate it. Really appreciate you big time.
Luke Burbank
Could not do this without you. Donors. Thank you from the bottom of our hearts. There's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll.
Andrew Walsh
You can't just listen to your soul. Just remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but. You know who wrote that song? Luke the diamond.
Luke Burbank
Mike nes Smith's mother.
Andrew Walsh
That's true.
Luke Burbank
When she wasn't inventing whiteout. You know that story, of course, when.
Andrew Walsh
You raise it, it rings a bell always, but it's never top of mind.
Luke Burbank
Mike Nesmith from the Monkees. Mother was a secretary and was, you know, would have some issues. You know, occasionally there'd be Like a mistyping in her things she was typing up and instead of redoing the entire page she thought, well, what if I put a little bit of white cover on this? And she is credited with inventing whiteout.
Andrew Walsh
I love that.
Luke Burbank
And by the way, when I said Mike Nesmith, I didn't mean Peter Torque did. I think Mike. I think Peter Torque was European.
Andrew Walsh
Right.
Luke Burbank
So I mean.
Andrew Walsh
Oh really? They're not all American. I didn't know that.
Luke Burbank
I don't know. I'll look this up while you blurs, while you blurs your little heart out.
Andrew Walsh
Start blursing all over the place over here. All right, with Carolyn. I'm sorry Carolyn, that was awful. Here, let's just. Yeah, it's time for some blurs days. You can email me andrewbtl.net and put Blursday in the subject line and that's how I will know a blurs day waits within. Carolyn wrote to me to say happy blursday to my cousin Deborah in New Zealand. We grew up in the northwest sharing our birthdays and I love the things festivity of having of having multiple family birthday celebrations all around the same time. I still miss those weird but delicious rice flour birthday cakes Aunt Marian always used to make to accommodate your gluten intolerance. Love you cousin. I hope your day is a special one. So it sounds like we have a couple of blurs days here both to Deborah and Carolyn whose birthdays are around the same time.
Luke Burbank
Betty Nesmith Graham, mother of monkeys Michael Ness Smith invented the typewriter correction fluid liquid paper in 1956. Working as a Texas bank secretary, she built it into a multi million dollar company before selling it to Gillette for 47 and a half million dollars in 1979.
Andrew Walsh
Wow. In 1979.
Luke Burbank
Died in 1980.
Andrew Walsh
By the way, this is such a boring thing to say, but I was surpri when you said selling it to Gillette. I thought that sale would have been 90s or post 90s because I think of Gillette as being like shaving skincare kind of stuff. I'm like, oh, Gillette must have bought one of the big office supply companies sometime more recently. But no, Gillette was cranking out Whiteout back in the 70s.
Luke Burbank
Founded in 1901 Gillette, an American brand of safety razors. It's so funny because Andrew, you and I have grown up in the era where there's nothing really there's almost nothing that isn't a safety razor. Yeah, like we're not from like my dad had, you know, the actual razor blade that you click into the thing and the dip. Your dad probably did as well. Maybe. I don't know.
Andrew Walsh
I would guess.
Luke Burbank
But like I would always see safety razor. And I was like, safety? Safety for what? Because that's just what it is now. But back in the day that was called a safety razor. And the Gillette company now owned by Procter and Gamble.
Andrew Walsh
Okay, so that, I mean that all makes sense. Except why was Gillette, if it is known as a. Yeah.
Luke Burbank
Why were they buying whiteout?
Andrew Walsh
Maybe they were like, like selling it as stuff you could put on your face if you nicked yourself a little bit, you know, instead of toilet paper.
Luke Burbank
I could use that.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah.
Luke Burbank
I show up to a CBS shoot. I just have white out over various parts of my face.
Andrew Walsh
Is this noticeable? Abby Blursey Caroline and Deborah. Erica says this blurs is the blurs of 50. And I can kick, stretch, kick slowly and with effort. Sally o' Malley Every year during the Pacific Northwest dark time, I wish I could go somewhere warm. And this year I have splurged. My dear boyfriend and I are departing for Hawaii for five glorious days. I will beach, I will swim, I will nap. I will revel in the goodness of the freshest fruit. But probably not bananas. Happy blursday to all other Aquarians. The rarest by the way.
Luke Burbank
Rip. And this time I mean it. That's the guy from Smash Mouth.
Andrew Walsh
Hey Genevieve. Let's have Genevieve on the show. Maybe next week. I'm just thinking about this now. Genevieve is Suddenly at age 48. I wanna say maybe 47. She is RIP. Shit about her zodiac sign. I don't know why it came up.
Luke Burbank
That is she is really a plot twist.
Andrew Walsh
She is a Pisces and she is now going around telling people. Well, she doesn't really talk about this much, but she's just telling herself she has self appointed a different sign to herself that she thinks. She's like, I am not a water sign.
Luke Burbank
She's like, I'm allowed to change your sign.
Andrew Walsh
So we need. You know, I actually think that would be a good conversation to come up.
Luke Burbank
And then maybe Monday or something.
Andrew Walsh
And I'm a Sagittarius, which is a pretty, pretty badass sign. And I'm just reading. And she's like, you're not a Sagittarius.
Luke Burbank
I'm like, I'm the sign that you know. Did I tell you that? No, I didn't. Because I was telling Becca this. I was backstage at Livewire. I know you gotta go, Andrew. So I'll be brief, but I'll be obtuse. I was backstage at Livewire, and it was Becca's birthday last week, which is part of why we went down to Florida for a little celebration. And I was telling the Livewire folks about that, and then it was her birthday, and one of our producers, Melanie Savchenko, who I absolutely love, she said, oh, wow. Okay. So she is a. I don't even know what her sign is. Whatever last week. Week would have been. Let's go with Pisces. I'm gonna guess, oh, she's a Pisces. Okay. Wow. You know more about this than I thought.
Andrew Walsh
I only know because that's Genevieve's real sign is Pisces.
Luke Burbank
Okay.
Andrew Walsh
And she does. She's rejected it.
Luke Burbank
Let's go with whatever last week was. Let's call it.
Andrew Walsh
Is Aquarius a thing?
Luke Burbank
Aquarius. Okay, that sounds. That sounds right. So she's. Oh, she's an Aquarius. And I go, yeah, I'm a Taurus. Is like Aquarius and Taurus good? She goes, no, it's the worst.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, compatibility.
Luke Burbank
Absolute worst compatibility. She's like, it's. She goes, I dated an Aquarius, and it was awful. Later, I learned he was bipolar, and I was like, that might have been.
Andrew Walsh
Also part of it.
Luke Burbank
I wonder if that was as big of a factor as him being an Aquarius.
Andrew Walsh
Well, you know me. I'm an Adrian Monk with a Bob Belcher rising. That's what I always say.
Luke Burbank
I saw a guy on the plane yesterday who was a Bob Burgers character. Like a drawing. Becca and I couldn't. We were in the front row of Coach, and we were watching a guy in the front row or the back row, first class. We couldn't place him for the whole flight, and I was like. And then when he got up to stretch and grabbed his legs, I was like, that's a Bob's Burger.
Andrew Walsh
Was he talking to a turkey at any point?
Luke Burbank
Yes, he was.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, God, I love Bob. All right, let's do some more. We got Erica. We just. We just wished Erica a happy blurs day, and I hope you have a great trip. I think you're actually having that trip right now. Got this note from Chad that says, I'd like to wish my middle 5 gram a wonderful and happy 20th birthday. I know you're bummed to be, quote, turning old.
Luke Burbank
Oh, God, Chad, I get it. And what's the. Graham, what's the. What's the five's name?
Andrew Walsh
Graham.
Luke Burbank
Graham. I get it. I had my first midlife crisis at 20. I really did. Yeah, like I guess they would call that a quarter life crisis if you're lucky, I guess. But, yeah, at 20 was hard for me. 20 felt like. Yeah, for real. Like I was. Like, somehow it felt like I was. I don't know, it felt to me like my life was sort of half over at 20. Which turned out to not be true.
Andrew Walsh
No, thankfully. Thankfully. Anyway, Graham feels like he's turning old. But hey, for the rest of your life, you get to say you became a commercial pilot at 19.
Luke Burbank
What?
Andrew Walsh
What a year. We're so proud of you, G. And your mom broke, and I love you so much. 19 years old.
Luke Burbank
Dang, dude.
Andrew Walsh
Flying giant. Giant metal birds.
Luke Burbank
I've been thinking about that. I've been thinking about flying them giant metal birds because there are two different airstrips near me. It's one of the nice things about living in rural America is there are a lot of airstrips and they have signs that say flight lessons. And I'm thinking that in my 50th year on this planet, I might treat myself to some flying lessons. That'd be a plot for the show.
Andrew Walsh
It would be. And that's what they say, too. You should kind of start taking flying lessons when you're at an age where you're, like, hearing and eyesight start declining and stuff. That's like the.
Luke Burbank
I'm thinking about writing a book about it called no Fear of Flying.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, is that actually a book?
Luke Burbank
I think Fear of Flying is an Erika Zhang book.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, okay. I'm unfamiliar, but anyway, I am legit impressed here with Graham.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, that's amazing.
Andrew Walsh
Graham, you're not old, so that was from Chad. I don't know if this is to the same Chad or a different Chad, but this is our pal Amy in Minnesota saying Happy Blurs day to my husband, Reverend Chad. I'm so proud. Oh, yeah, we love this guy. Yeah, we love them both. We love them all. I'm so proud that you are. That sounded like the. Sounded like such a dismissive thing for me, and I was being sincere here. I'm so.
Luke Burbank
We love them, whoever they are, wherever they.
Andrew Walsh
Oh, we love them all. Yeah, they're great. Oh, love, Amy and Chad, I'm so proud that you are a newly ordained Unitarian Universalist minister and can now officially use the title Reverend. It's pretty cool, actually. Amy is sending in blurs, day messages and various emails and communiques over the years. It's. I feel like I've been a little bit on this journey with Reverend Chad because we heard about seminary school and Now Chad is living the life fully.
Luke Burbank
Doing it. Can do marriages, can do the counseling, can help people find the best version of their life, highly support this, by the way, Universalist church, I think is.
Andrew Walsh
A great thing and can stand up to ice in the streets, which that's not part of Amy's official message. But I think I was going through these very quickly a moment ago, but I think Amy said that Chad's been out there on the streets as well. So Amy says it's an understatement to say things are difficult in our home of Minneapolis right now. But I'm inspired by how you're doing what you can to stand up for love and justice. And I'll make sure to make time for. Oh, no, I'll make sure you make time for a birthday drink. Absolutely. Happy birthday, Chad. Absolutely.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, man. Thanks. Good trouble, man. Good trouble.
Andrew Walsh
And finally, do you remember the other day, Luke, this is gonna start with a question. The other day when I was playing that videotape for you that looked like it was home movies or a VHS that was recorded at what seems to be in a Bitterlake community center.
Luke Burbank
We need to update that story at some point.
Andrew Walsh
Yes, we do. I got a fascinating follow up email from a listener. I can't wait to share with you tomorrow. But we also thank some donors. That day in Meredith in Britain was one of them. And we were wondering, did Meredith grow up in Britain or could Meredith possibly have grown up here in Seattle, even been in that video in the Bitter Lake Community center, and then moved to Britain? Well, some of these things are going to be addressed here in this Blurs day message because Meredith says, please could I wish a happy birthday to myself. It would be a. That's very. That is already a British way of please could I wish a happy blursday to you?
Luke Burbank
Please, sir, could I have more blursdays?
Andrew Walsh
Give us a little blurs day.
Luke Burbank
That was all over the map. That accent.
Andrew Walsh
I loved it. I love a good Greek accent. It would be great to celebrate this weekend with a message from my two very favorite imaginary radio friendos. Aw. Happy blurs day, Meredith. Meredith. Absolutely. Meredith says I do work in London. Cause I think I was making some jokes about or I made some references to working in London. I did grow up in America and I was a child in 1994. But unfortunately, I did not attend the Easter egg hunt at the Bitter Lake Community Cent in northeast Seattle. And I can't think of anyone who might have been. Well, more on that soon.
Luke Burbank
Watch this space.
Andrew Walsh
But I will also say Meredith, you've really taken to the culture because you spelled Bitter Lake Community Center C, E, N, T, R, E. What's more British than that? What's more British than that?
Luke Burbank
What color is the building?
Andrew Walsh
You're gonna hate this. But for a while there, and I finally have stopped doing this, but for a big chunk of my adulthood, I spelled color with a u and I spelled gray with an e. And I know that that is very British, and I've never even been to Britain. I wasn't trying to put on airs. I just truly believed that those words are better spelled that way, because gray is not a colorful, bright word. It's a bleh word. And having an A A is like a sunrise, and an E is like a gray, foggy day. So I was spelling gray an E and color with a U. It adds color to the word. I felt very strongly about this, but I also understand how absolutely annoying that sounds.
Luke Burbank
No, that's not annoying. You've got a good reason for it. That's some synesthesia coming out.
Andrew Walsh
Right? I think you're right. Actually, that's a really good point, because I sort of claim to be touched with a little bit of that, and maybe.
Luke Burbank
Yeah, no, that would seem to be an example of that, so. Well, happy Blurs day, everybody.
Andrew Walsh
Yeah. Happy blurs day to you, Luke.
Luke Burbank
Thank you. Thank you. It's an honor and a privilege just to be nominated. All right, that's. We didn't even get in tomorrow. Andrew, please.
Andrew Walsh
I know.
Luke Burbank
Let's.
Andrew Walsh
Let's.
Luke Burbank
Let's. Let's circle it. I want to tell you about my somewhat kind of nutty plan for watching the super bowl, because I'm trying to hold. I'm trying to hold a couple of things simultaneously, which is the love of family and the love of Seahawks, and so we'll get into that tomorrow. In the meantime, thank you, everybody.
Andrew Walsh
Sorry, I know you're winding up. I want to give the listeners a warning, though. We're dialing up a little bit late tomorrow, and we have a lot to talk about. I'm just realizing I feel like tomorrow.
Luke Burbank
Could end up being a Carol. Hold your calls.
Andrew Walsh
This could be a very long show that gets started pretty late. So we might be posting the show.
Luke Burbank
Late tomorrow, and I will have just done a local television appearance.
Andrew Walsh
We have so much to talk about.
Luke Burbank
Hello, Rose City.
Andrew Walsh
You still don't even know what we're doing in our basement.
Luke Burbank
Oh, my God, dude. The basement could be. For me, that could be easily 10 hours of show, and I would only beginning to. I would only be beginning to scratch the surface. So yeah, buckle up for a big show tomorrow. The good news is the Seahawks are on a buy so we have nothing to do this weekend. We can spend it in quiet reflection and listening to TBTL in the meantime. Thanks for listening everybody. Have a great rest of your Thursday. We will see you tomorrow with more imaginary radio. In the meantime, please remember, no mountain.
Andrew Walsh
Too tall and good luck to all. I'm an obtuse man so I'll try to be oblique. Power out.
Date: January 29, 2026
Hosts: Luke Burbank & Andrew Walsh
This episode of TBTL is a delightful blend of lighthearted banter, a thrilling tale of lost-and-found heroics, Seattle trivia, and in-depth meanderings through daily life. Luke and Andrew discuss everything from cashing checks and technological quirks to a suspense-filled adventure tracking down a lost phone on a city bus. The episode highlights the joys and absurdities of modern existence, sprinkled with classic TBTL inside jokes, pop culture, and a meaningful story about trust and human decency.
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The episode is packed with TBTL’s signature mixture: playful absurdism, cultural asides, heartfelt storytelling, warm community vibes, and an unfiltered window into two friends riffing on life’s weird little moments. The tone swings from silly (beans riffs), to intense and suspenseful (the bus chase), to reflective and earnest (discussing human decency).
If you haven’t listened to this episode, you missed a vintage TBTL story: a phone-losing ordeal turned action caper, heartfelt appreciation for everyday good people, and a parade of tangents from Seattle transit to 80s TV lore. It’s a perfect summation of the TBTL ethos—absurd, heartwarming, and always ready to celebrate the mundane as something worth telling.