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They said, you know what?
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We need to have a third interview.
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With you because the notes from the social worker is that you seem anxious, high strung and eccentric. Yeah, that's what I do. That's the cornerstone. It's the business plan. Tbtl.
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That was really good pizza. Oh, this is the best pizza in a cup ever. He ran the old cup of pizza guy out of business. People come from all over to get this.
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Well, I just wanted to say a friendly hello in an unfriendly way.
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Hello. It's the story of a man with.
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A brothel, of a home in a pool filled with human excrement.
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Would you say that to Tom Petty? You wouldn't say that to Tom Petty, would you? When you get there, this is what.
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You will see on the screen. And there's a little arrow over there. You press it and congratulations, you're listening to a podcast.
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Well, all right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of tbtl, the show. It just might be too beautiful to live. My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host, coming to you once again and for the final day from Los Angeles, California, from the corner of Sunset and Wilcox in the Office Depot district, we're bringing you a Thursday edition of the program. And we've got a good one for you. Lots to catch up on, blurs, days to celebrate, and hellos to say to this young man, the longest running cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. He is Andrew Walsh and he is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
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Good morning, Luke. This is going to be hard to explain. For the past, like, hour, I've been going over this in my head. I need to explain something to you that's going to make you groan and it's going to be too verbose because it is a little bit of dream talk. But I was shocked by a dream I had.
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You're so lucky I don't have my sound effects.
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Oh, a dreamcatcher come to life. Is that what you would want to play? Or one of those Dreamcore?
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However I feel. Oh. Oh. I wasn't gonna be mean this early in the show. I was gonna wait till later in the show to be mean.
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Yeah. Do I look like a dreamcatcher came to life? I look like a dreamcatcher came to life. Yeah, you do. All right, I'll make it quick because I know people hate this stuff and this isn't even that good of one, but I found it was interesting. As far as you and I and our relationship are Concerned because my dream was a kind of stress dream about broadcasting only. It should have been your stress dream, not mine. In other words, you were in my dream. You were broadcasting. I can't remember if you were doing the opening. I think you were doing the opening of tbtl. I don't know if I'm waiting for you to introduce me, or maybe I'm just producing this episode and you're going solo. But, Luke, you're doing a terrible job. I mean, awful. And I'm on the sidelines thinking, this isn't live. Just start over. But you refuse to start over. And, Luke, you know what your problem is? You're burping like crazy. You won't stop burping as you burp your way through the introduction of the show. And I'm just like, this guy is really screwing this up. I'm fine. I wasn't stressed out. This was not my problem. This is your problem. And you're just. Just shoving forward right through the burps. And I'm just like, if I were him, I would restart. So anyway, I feel like I had.
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A case of the repeats.
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You had a case, as we call.
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It on this show.
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So I hope you had a nice dream last night, because I feel like I was. I was taking on your stress dream. You should have been stressed, but you weren't.
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And you know what? I slept great. See, and I think it's because you were. You were like, you know, an empath. You were like somebody. And this could be, you know, if this podcasting thing doesn't work out, this could be something you look into where you take on the stress dreams of the world. It's a like, you know, you have very stressful dreams so other people don't have to.
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It seems like the next logical step. I am always to a fault, a little bit too worried about the feelings of other people in the room when it's not even. I don't even have to be part of the conversation. It makes it sound like I'm a caring person, but it actually. There's a bit of psychosis mixed in there as well. I think I sometimes overemphasize that or let other people's experience kind of affect my own too much. So I like the idea of me going around. Maybe it's a service. Maybe I take some of those stress dreams.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Plates? Yeah. Like for. For monetary. Like, I could sell this. You think?
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Oh, I think there's a good buck in this. Listen, if people are paying for Crystals. If people are paying to have, you know, their fortunes told to them, I think there could be a people are paying to, you know, hear what their loved ones who have passed away are saying from the other side. I think you could definitely probably, you know, run a pretty savage burn on some folks where you promise that you will have very stressful dreams so that they can be footloose and fancy free. Okay.
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I don't like the way you said burn. I was going to approach this with sincerity.
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I see. So you, you think that there's a way you can actually do this?
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I just thought I did it for you.
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I just, what I heard was a good scam and, you know, I want listening for a good scan.
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I want to provide an actual service. No, no. If I can't do it, I'm not taking anybody's money on this. Anyway. What's going on with you in the real world down there in Tinseltown?
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Well, I went to a very, and I mean very hip restaurant with my daughter to celebrate her birthday early. And I had kind of alluded to this on the show the other day about how, like, as I was reading about the place and critically trying to get a table at the place I was and looking at it on Google street maps, I was like, I don't know if this would be for Andrew. It was. It's this. It's a pizza place actually called Quarter Sheet and it is apparently the place to go in Echo Park. First of all, it started with me taking a waymo down Sunset from where I'm staying in Hollywood down to Echo park, almost directly past my old house. And you want to talk. We've been talking a lot about nostalgia on the show and that it's your most powerful drug boy. Was it a nostalgia hit for me to just sit in the back of a driverless vehicle and note the places along Sunset that are now different things from when I lived here. And all I think was, thank God there's no human in this car to have to listen to me go, wait. They turned that into a what I thought.
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I sincerely wasn't sure if you had gotten misty eyed. If you're going to say nobody was in the car to see you gently weeping.
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You know, I, for once, I wasn't in a crying mood, but I was like, oh, Patra Berger, Lucy's laundry mat there. The Burrito King was still there. Or as I called it, cocky donkey, because the logo for the Burrito king there at Alvarado and Sunset was like a very. A donkey that I Think looked like it was a little bit too confident.
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Yeah.
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So I was happy to see that that was still there. But anyway, so I take the Waymo down, by the way, the Waymos are. I have mixed feelings about this. The Waymos are cheaper than the Lyft or the Uber, but I know it's just because.
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We pay robots less than people.
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I think it's. Well, yes. And I think it's also because they are. They're artificially lowering the price. Meta, or whoever it is who runs Waymo, I think it's Meta. They're artificially, like, they're basically pulling a Walmart. Right. They come into the marketplace and like, as if you thought that, like, if you. Me feeling bad for Uber and Lyft is like me feeling bad for the Minnesota Police because of how bad ice is. You know, it's like, oh, it's not like Uber and Lyft are exactly, you know, pillars of the community from a business model and how they treat their drivers. But I think what Waymo is doing is deliberately undercutting the prices so that people like me will start taking Waymo's. I think the Waymo to where we met for dinner was maybe like $14. And I think a Lyft or an Uber was going to be more like $30. But I. So it's a cheaper option at this point. But I also know that all I'm doing is helping run the other ones out of business so that Waymo eventually can charge me $100 for this journey.
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Kind of the Amazon situation. Right. I mean, didn't Amazon. Maybe that's a better example for a long, long time. But it worked. And now it's impossible to find things in the real world.
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Yes. And I'm doing that to myself as I sit in the back of a robot card. I will tell you this also, the temperature was exactly where I left it last time I took awaymo three months ago. 68 degrees with a 50% chance of rain. Always. Always. I know that's not complicated. I just have. I have an account now with Waymo and it just remembers that that's. Again, that's like not even an interesting party trick for a robot to do, but I find it endlessly.
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Oh, I haven't experienced comforting, in a way. Yeah. I'm sorry to cut you off. I haven't experienced it, but I don't think you have to explain why. That seems fascinating. I'm. And comforting. I'm fascinated by that, too. And I've never even experienced it. It's Those small things. Yeah, like I got in your playlist in the same place too, if you plug in your Spotify or something.
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Well, oh yeah, totally. I mean and once you've logged in, you know, you're so I had taken a number of these vehicles and I'd never much like we were talking about with the Jimmy John's. Somehow I didn't want to like log my Spotify into Waymo for some reason. I don't know why. But I finally did and now it remembers. I don't have to re log in. And it will literally pick up on the song that I was playing the last time I was in there.
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It's.
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It's. It's quite incredible. Which by the way, the song was Los Angeles by the band Big Thief. And I said I wasn't crying earlier, Andrew, but that's a miracle because that song is a. As are many of the songs from Big Thief. That's an almost auto cry for me. Regardless of what my mood is, it just absolutely does me in. And I was in Los Angeles, which is kind of gilding the lily. But I get down to my old stomps of Echo park and we, we get to the restaurant and of course there's a crazy line and we couldn't get reservations so we had to do like the walk up and they, you know, put us on the list and they were nice about it, but it was like gonna be an hour. So we just kind of wandered around Echo Park a little bit. And the whole time I'm just having this feeling of like this is going to be a lot of hassle for this is not gonna be a great roi. First of all, it's a pizza place. Second of all, it was something about the exterior of the building. It just has a very rudimentary sign that says pizza. Maybe it's because I'm the son of a sign painter, but it almost seemed like they were being intentionally unappealing in the like. Like we're so hip and cool that we can have a sign that says pizza on our. On our very unassuming looking restaurant that we know is kind of not even really selling the sizzle of this place, if that makes any sense.
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Sort of. I mean it sounds. Maybe I'm not picturing right. It sort of sounds cool to me, to be honest with you. And I'm not trying to be contrarian here, but I could see a place that is that I like have. One of the things I always kind of liked about LA was now is not one of those places. But like, some of the old charms of LA are just sitting around, sort of not fetishized in a certain way.
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Does that make sense?
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Some of the old school businesses or whatever. So if there was a new business that sort of led. That sort of led into that being like, well, we're not going to be super fancy about this. It's just sort of a old school pizza sign. I don't know, but I might be picturing it differently than what it looked like. Is it trying too hard? Is it like back in the early 2000s when guys were messing up their hair very carefully?
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Well, that's kind of what I assumed was going on because, again. So Addie said, hey, why don't we go to this place? Quarter sheets. I've been trying to go for a while. Everybody's talking about it. And it's also in the. Did you ever go to Little Joy, that bar when you lived in Los Angeles? You guys were in Koreatown. You might not have gotten over Echo park way much, but it's like Little Joy to me is the ultimate Echo park hipster locust. It's just, it is just. It's. It's extremely cool. And I put that kind of in quotes. And every time I went there, I felt like I was not cool enough to be in there, even though it's like a total dive. But. So this is around the corner from that place, Little Joy. And I think when I was looking at it on Street View and I saw how again, they just had a very simple sign that said pizza, I was already, like, I was already forecasting this whole thing. I went to the website and they said, reservations open up 14 days in advance of the day that you're trying to make your reservation. Like, it was one of those kind of things where it was like, like, we're going to. We're gonna. On Instagram, we're gonna put out some GEO coordinates, and if you go to those exact coordinates, you will find a key and that key will open a door somewhere in the neighborhood, and then you will be allowed to stand in line at a crypto atm. And if you enter in some kind of crypto code, we'll put you on the waiting list to have some of our pizza. This was what was going through my mind as I was trying fruitlessly to make a reservation, as I was looking at the pictures, as I was being told. When we got there, it was going to be an hour plus before we could sit down and have some pizza. Even though we got there really early for one of the Walk in appointments, as it were. And, Andrew, when I tell you. We got seated and they brought out some salad, and they brought out some pizza, and they brought out some little birthday cake for Addie. It was the best meal I've had in probably 15 years. It was absolutely phenomenal.
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What made it so good?
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Well, this sounds like such a simple thing, but the salad was dressed perfectly. I'm a big salad orderer, and generally speaking, most salads are overdressed. In my experience, it's just like every once in a while, there's not enough dressing on the salad. In fact, Becca and I went to a vegetarian place in Portland last weekend, which I was very excited to go to, and it was the opposite. The salad was just almost. It was like they just waved some salad dressing over it, I think without opening the bottle. This was. This was just the perfect amount of dressing. Also, you know, there was basil in the salad, so it was. I guess you would call it sort of. Sort of a Caesar salad. No, it wasn't a Caesar salad. It was a little gem. You know how popular the little gem salad is these days?
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I don't know if I do, but. Okay.
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Really?
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You.
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I feel like in most restaurants now, particularly ones that are a little bit fancier, you'll see, like, gem salads, I feel like, have been a big deal for the last couple of years. You know, it's just kind of. What's the. What's the kind of. Of lettuce. Romaine lettuce that you'll buy, like the big. Yeah, you know, three, like, romaine stalks. I love that. Yeah, but, like, Little gem is just. It's a romaine, but tiny. It's the veal. It's the veal of romaine in that it's not been allowed to fully live its life. It's just been plucked at the exact tenderest moment and then put into a salad. It's. It's very popular these days, but a lot of times, you know, you get that. And again, it's a little overdressed, or there's some kind of weird thing in there that's not to my liking. This was just perfect. There was basil in the salad, and it was so good. I can't remember the last time I got a full basil leaf in a salad.
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Yeah, I'm trying to. The flavor profile seems interesting. I love basil, but mixed with greens, I'm having trouble picturing it.
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I had never had it before, that I can remember, and it was phenomenal. I feel like I'm gonna start putting Basil in more of my salads. In fact, there was, like, I was eating a lot of this salad, and I realized how much I liked the basil. And then I was doing that really great parental move where I just go in and get every single leaf of basil and pull it out, thus depriving Addie of it. Just being like, I'm gonna go ahead and pick out all of the good stuff. Salad. But anyway, salad was really amazing.
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We have a rule, ma'. Am. We have a rule that one person can't take all the basil out of the salad.
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Basil.
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All the loaded basil. It's a rule.
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Yeah, it was weird. The server came over and told me that right after Addy had visited the restroom. Yes, those may have been related events. But anyway, the salad was great. The. I'll say this about the pizza. The pizza was really good. Pizza, in my experience, is always really good. Like, and, you know, there's a range. There's Little Caesars or something all the way up to, you know, Grimaldi's in New York or something. But, like, it was very good pizza. I really loved the salad, the dessert. It was. It was a cake. It was literally listed as a birthday cake. The reason that I was initially skeptical is because this is another big thing in the world of cake right now, which is olive oil cake. Have you seen this?
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No, I have not.
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When is the last time you ate out? I feel like this is where we're. This is where our.
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Probably not in a while, honestly.
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Yeah. So they're like, I don't think I've ever had a piece of cake or a baked good that is having olive oil as an ingredient. But it seems weird to me.
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Wait a second. Hold on. You just said that I haven't eaten out in a while because I thought you were. You meant to say that olive oil cake was a very popular thing that I am missing out on.
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No, I mean, it is a very popular thing, I would say, generally, I have assumed you're not missing out on it, because I have always thought it seemed gross, but I actually ordered it because it was Addie's birthday. They brought it out, by the way, with a candle in it. It was very cute, and it was delicious. I mean, I don't know if this was the best olive oil cake that's ever been made. I don't know if all olive oil cake is actually pretty good. I've always just found it to be an example of, like, cake was fine. Like, I didn't have a problem with cake. General. I never. I was Never eating a piece of cake, thinking, if only this had more olive oil in it, you know? But I guess my point about this place, four sheets, is that. No, not four sheets.
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Whatever you were later.
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Exactly. And during. No, whatever the place is called that I don't have right in front of me now on my computer, but quarter sheets. Quarter sheets. See, my brain, Andrew, is able to convert quarter into four just like that. I don't even need a calculator or anything else. But anyway, it was a really delicious meal. And it was actually. And Addy and I were going on and on about it afterwards, like, that was one of those rare moments where something is totally hyped up and then it actually was really good and really delivered.
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So I do know what you mean about. I'm looking at the outside of the building and stuff, and it's like the sign itself, it's not. It is very unassuming, but it's. They took a huge white sign and then just wrote pizza in the upper right hand corner of it, slightly askew, as if it were a mistake, which I actually. I don't totally hate that, but it is a little like. It's like. It's not just an old, simple sign. It is a sign that is supposed to disrupt your sense of. Of, you know, symmetry, I guess, is the word I'm looking for. And it's kind of. I will say this. It looks like once you get in, it's. It's a place that I would enjoy. But I really do hate the feeling. I'll just never go to a place where it makes you feel like doing you some sort of honor by accepting your reservation. You know what I mean? Like, that's. That's just not me. So. I know what you mean. That feeling you had leading up to it, that's a bad feeling for me. I'm just always like, no, I'll go. I'm very much like the early onset, grumpy guy who will not wait from Portlandia, I believe, who will not wait for brunch. Like, can you just get brunch somewhere else?
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Yeah, I was definitely suffering from some. Some early onset kind of just, you know, thinking, this is going to be really frustrating. And in fact, once we were there and seated and once we were eating the food, I was, like, extremely pleased with the whole experience. So that was my night. Now, I wrote something in the show sheet today that I. You said to me when we were dialing up, you thought I was razzing you, and I really wasn't. There was. I Guess a little bit of a miscommunication or misunderstanding. I was sort of under the mis impression or whatever that you were maybe going to go to the Seahawks super bowl party yesterday. You had mentioned it very. In passing the parade. But then you. Parade, I should say. And then you said no. I actually ended up deciding not to go, but I could talk about why I didn't go. So I was curious, what was it about the. The thing that ultimately seemed kind of like not appealing to you?
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Well, of course I had mentioned to you on the show last week or something that I've never been in Seattle for one of the, you know, Seahawks Super Bowls, win or lose. I was in LA for both of those years. And so when I realized, oh, there's going to be a Super bowl parade and people in our friend group and mar friend group, that's mine and yours. People in mar friend group were talking about going and I was like, oh. I mean, first of all, I never really considered like going with them. No offense, but you know, it's the middle of a workday. I just sort of figured, well, I live in the city. I could hop on an E line and I guess just like sort of see the hullabaloo. But I can't explain it. When I first mentioned it or when it first flashed through my brain, I was like. I pictured it like, I would like to observe this but not be of this sort of like this is happening in my city. I love my city. I love it when things are happening in my city. And I was like, oh yeah, that'd be interesting to see. But then when I. There were several things going on. I had some scheduling thing in the afternoon that I could have worked around if I was more motivated. I had some issues with my ankle, by the way. I don't know what's going on with my ankle. It's much better today. But it would have been pretty rough yesterday even if I had really wanted to go.
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If you don't mind me asking, is it thethe arthritis stuff?
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It's green. No, you know, I don't think it is. But I think it's gotta be maybe related to it. Cause I never had these issues before. I had that arthritis, but I talked to my doctor about it and he thinks it might be something else. But we don't know exactly what it was. But it was bad yesterday. It might be. What do you call that thing? I know that you and Kamaru Kev both had it even though. But I'm not athletic. I don't know if That's a difference. But swag. No plantar fasciitis. Here's my deal.
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Oh, yeah.
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I don't know. It hurts really bad. It hurts around my ankle, though. And I know it's supposed to shoot up through the bottom of the foot. It does hurt in the bottom of the foot, but I feel like I'm carrying a lot of the pain on my ankle, which. Those things can be related.
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I think it can strike anywhere at any time. I think you need to see whoever Nick Emanwari saw after his ankle injury, because he looked just fine in the Super Bowl. Can we get some treatment on Andrew's dealing with an ankle?
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Yeah, Andrew has an ankle. Some say he has an ankle. That's right. I'm still convinced that when these football players are suffering from an injury like that, but it's really, really important that they get healthy. I think they just clone them and make healthy versions. I believe that happens in the Stephen King book, maybe even the Running man. Anyway. Yeah, I did have that. But I mean, listen, if this were. If I were really, really motivated, I don't want to make it sound like I was limping around a bit yesterday, but I feel like, well, if it was something I really cared about, maybe I would have pushed through. But here's. Here's the deal, and I don't want to be rude about this, but I was just keeping it as an option in the back of my head, like, totally. Like, I can wait until the last minute, and if I'm feeling it, hop on an E line, head somewhere, almost anywhere into the city, and I'll probably get close to the crowds. You know, I woke up and I'm thinking about it, and I thought, yeah, the bus line or the bus there will be pretty crowded. I thought, yeah, and they'll probably start that chant.
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Seahawks.
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And then I thought, I hate that chant. And by the way, it's just almost any sports chant. You know, like, when I rooted for Cleveland, if people started doing the dog barking thing, I hated it even more, maybe. And then I'm like, oh, wait, I'm. If I go to this parade, it's like everything I don't like about a sporting event without the sports. It's the crowds, it's the chance, it's the. I can't navigate the bus the way I usually do because everybody's on it. It's like. But there's no game. There's nothing that I'm fighting for. I'm just there for the.
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You don't want to see a Mildly drunk Sam Darnold. You want to see Sam Darnold on his seventh MC Ultra?
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So anyway, that is a little bit. It sounds a little negative, I suppose I gotta say, I love that people love it. Like I was. You know what I did, though? I had some. Like I mentioned, I sort of had. I had to pick something up on the. More the eastern side of the city. Not. Not like Bellevue, but like I was talking to you off air about this. Somebody I volunteer with lives over. What is it? It's past Wedgwood. What is past Wedgwood?
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It's. Well, I think you were mentioning Hawthorne Hills.
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Is that at the one that's like. It's kind of built around a circle plan, sort of. If you look at it on a map, there's like a big roundabout in the middle of it. I thought it was something heights.
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Well, you had mentioned to me the other day Hawthorne. Well, like near Bryant. Near Sandpoint.
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Yeah, we're getting south of Sandpoint. Exactly. Yeah. So anyway, all of that is to say I had to go over there now. I. You're. Yeah, yeah, Hawthorne Hills is exactly what I was thinking of. Sorry, it didn't sound familiar to me. But anyway, so somebody I know has a house over there. I had to get over there by 1ish or 2ish, which would have been a little bit difficult with the. With the parade if I had tried to attend and do both of these things. But what I did was I drove around that part of the city. It's like the parade drew everybody. Like a magnet. Like shavings to a magnet. The parade drew you put a little.
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Van Dyke beard on the city and then you went up to the upper.
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Forehead area and the rest of the city was mine. I was driving around, there was no traffic. Traffic at all. And so like I actually took care of tons of errands running around and I stopped a little diner. That's like the opposite of what you're talking about. There was a little diner though, that was in. In Ravenna for the longest time, for like 62 years, called the Varsity Inn. The Ravenna Varsity Inn. There's also one in Wallingford, but they closed. I was good. I was like, you know what? I'm in this area, I'm going to drive home, I'm going to get like my steak and eggs. They used to make a great steak and eggs. Permanently closed. Couldn't reach a deal with the landlord, Luke, after 62 years.
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Yeah, I saw that in the Seattle Times a bit ago.
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So anyway, I went down the street. And I was like, well, I should support this other little restaurant, Bryant Corner. I think it's called Bryant Corner.
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The Junior Varsity Inn, the G. It's not as good, but definitely give it a couple of years.
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Yeah, I went to the intramural. Oh, that would have been funnier if I hadn't stumbled on the word. Anyway, are you familiar with the Bryant Corner Cafe? It's maybe kind of a similar vibe.
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I think I am actually.
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Just.
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I don't know if that was there when I lived there.
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Just a few blocks away from their family run little place. Had a little egg scramble. Read, Read. A writer, a baseball writer named. I can never remember how to say her name, even though she's a podcaster. To Katie Presser is how I think you say her name. Outlook Landing is the publication, and she wrote this most amazing kind of, if not a tribute, more of a just sort of introspective piece about Victor Robles and his issues last year when he got injured and then in his rehab assignment, kept getting hit by the same pitchers over and over and then ended up getting suspended because he reached a point where he threw his bat at the pitcher, which you really cannot do. They take that very seriously. But he had also.
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Victor Robles is dealing with a bat.
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Yes, the pitcher was dealing with a bat coming at him. But Victor Robless, I had forgotten this part. Had lost his mother kind of during this period as well. And I guess Katie Presser. And I think I'm getting that name right. If not those who know, my apologies. I didn't realize that she had lost her dad recently as well. And she wrote this unbelievably beautiful piece in Outlook Landing that talked about.
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Grief.
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And grieving and what it did to her and how that made her look at the Victor Robles thing differently. But it was just like. And I'm sitting there eating this egg scra. I'm looking at. I'm getting updates on my phone about what's going on on the parade route. I'm reading this piece, and I'm weeping silently over my eggs. But it was not. Oh, my God. I know that sounds sad, but it wasn't. It turns out, like, I got in the car later, and I'm, like, paying attention to the parade coverage, and people are like, this is gonna be just a day that all Seattle Lights remember. And I'm like, yes, but mine was different. But it was still a very beautiful day. And I know that that sounds like a very sad scene, but it wasn't. I wasn. I Just meant I was getting a little misty eyed while I'm reading this thing. But having a very nice, very simple little breakfast scramble on a beautiful, beautiful day in a quiet part of the city while everybody else is at the parade. So I know it doesn't make as good TBTL content, but that's what I did. And I gotta be honest with you, no regerts.
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We all celebrate the once in a lifetime super bowl victory differently.
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Yeah, I wrote because I saw because she had posted it to blue sky. And I was like, well, while everybody else is celebrating, I'm crying over eggs over over here.
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But I would go any other way. Not only did you have to go to a different part of the city than everyone, you had to go to a different sport. Yeah, Greece, everybody's over in football. Let me go visit baseball.
A
It just, you know, it was great. I mean, you know, I don't read physical newspapers anymore, but it was like, it's the, the absolute equivalent of like, you know, taking your newspaper, sitting in a diner, using the ketchup bottle to prop it up. Like, I just love those moments. And now it's on my phone. But like I just sat down. I didn't, you know, I didn' have care in the world and just like was reading and this popped in front of me and it was great and it was just a very, very nice morning. But I guess more to the point, yeah, it sort of sounds like you, me and John had a bit of a miscommunication that maybe we rescheduled something on the assumption I was going to this parade. I thought we were rescheduling because of your work schedule in la. I didn't realize that there was. Because I just had a fleeting moment like, well, maybe I'll go to that parade. But I ended up not doing it. But again, I honestly had a memorable day and it sounds really sad now that I described that one little moment of it, but it was actually quite great.
B
You know, it's funny I'm giving you some grief about this, but I'm. If I were in Seattle, I think I would also be on the fence about going to it because. Not for exactly the same reasons, but because I've never, I mean on the one hand I've. I mean, I guess I lived in Seattle when they beat the Broncos, so I guess I could have gone to that one too. Like, I don't know, there's. It's very weird. It's. There's something about just standing on the side of the road with a bunch of Drunk people waiting for, you know, like a float with the Seahawks to go by that. I don't know. It doesn't feel. I know it's meant to be celebratory somehow. It doesn't. Scratch that itch for me.
A
Yeah. I don't know why it doesn't. It doesn't bring me. And I don't like that part of it. You know what I mean? You won't even wear a Seahawk shirt to a Seahawks game. Right? Like, you're, Aren't you sort of anti. You won't wear a Mariner's hat to a Mariners game. Like, I can't. I can't see you getting down with going downtown and do. Being part of a Seahawks chant. I mean, it's the last thing I can picture you doing.
B
Well, it would, it would need to involve copious amounts of alcohol. I mean, that's the, I mean, that's, that's really the true story is like if, if, if it were, you know, if I decided, like, this is going to be Rolling Thunder today, like I'm going to be day drinking, you know, on. On what? On. And, you know, Mercer. I don't know where it ended up. I guess it probably ended up obviously at the, at the field itself, but, like, started.
A
It started more there and then it moved north up past the market, and then it ended, I don't know, a few blocks north of the market, I think.
B
Oh, okay. Yeah. I guess if I would have decided, like, this day, like, like with a lot of things, it's like, it's. It would be kind of boring to me if I wasn't probably like, very inebriated, you know, which is something I'm trying to not be doing at 11 o' clock on a Wednesday anymore. So that it would have kind of. It would have sort of invalidated the whole thing for me, I think.
A
Yeah, I mean, I guess now that you put it that way, if there was some scenario where you're up here and you're like, hey, let's do a TBTL thing and you and I decide we're gonna maybe rock some hip flasks or something like that and have a little fun, but, like, that just was not that. I had to get back here afterwards to meet the workers who had to fix something on our hot water tank, you know what I mean? It just was not that kind of a day. It would have been like kind of stopping my day to go rah, rah, rah and then come back home to reality sort of. And it just didn't sound good. Like I say, I put up with the crowds when I go to baseball games because I really enjoy watching the baseball games. But can you imagine me getting on the bus, going all the way down to Pioneer Square, going through the crowd, getting into the stadium, just sitting there, everybody cheering, but there's no game, just cheering and then going home and being like, I did it. That was what the parade felt like to me. It sounds like I'm denigrating the idea of a parade. I'm not. I'm so happy for the city and the people who do it and enjoy it. Just, it's not for me.
B
I learned something about my mother yesterday and this involves sports gear. And I didn't learn about it from talking to my mother. I learned about it by talking to somebody else from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. So I was on the set of the TV show ncis, which they have an entire. Like, if you pull up to it, it just looks like an office park in Valencia. It's right in the shadow of Magic Mountain, Andrew. And it is just this giant. I mean, maybe it started out as an office park, I don't know. But now it's just all of these sort of buildings, office buildings that have been hollowed out and turned into sound stages. And the only thing that gets made there is ncis. I did see Gary Cole, the actor who plays Lumberg on Office Space. The I'm gonna need you to work this Sunday guy, very fit in real life, upsettingly fit. I'm not, I don't want to live in a world where Gary Cole is super duper fit.
A
I thought he always, he's always, I always picture him as kind of a slender guy, tall, slender guy, I guess.
B
But I mean, I think of him as lumber. He's wearing a kind of a blousy shirt, I think with suspenders. I just, he was wearing a tight fitting shirt and he was going somewhere to be ncis and he just was, I don't, I'm not ready for Badass Gary Cole yet. I'm still, I still, I still wanted to be Office Space Gary Cole. But anyway, and so I was up there and we were doing some interviews with some of the actors on the show and some of the show's creators and writers. And there was a guy, because this is like a huge operation and everyone's on radios and oh, by the way, if I do not know how I would survive working on a Hollywood set or how I would. Let me put it this way, I don't know how I would stop Myself from probably taking in an additional 20,000 calories a day because the constant presence of craft services, I have this scarcity. I know, that you and I talk about when we work in an office and they're like, there's donuts. You and I are not the people running headlong to the donuts. In fact, I kind of tend to not. But there's something about the way that there's just. It's an Avanti market, Andrew, but a hundred times better. And it's all free.
A
Wait, and there's better than the avanti market it.
B
If you can believe it, sir, if you can believe it. It's like just anything your heart desires. Any. Any type of soda, any type of water, any type of coffee, iced coffee, any type of sandwich you want. And by the way, all of this is happening in between the times when there's the actual meals, which are themselves amazing. Like, okay, we're breaking for lunch and then you go over to some other trailer where. Or some area where they've set up this like, like incredible spread of food, you know, like pasta and this and that and the other thing. But in case your heart has any small food related desire in between these meals they're serving, you can then go over to this other place and they'll just give you any kind of snack or make you anything that you possibly could think of. It's just. And like, I kept leaving. We were waiting, you know, for people to come into do these interviews. We had it all lit in this special room, but every time there wasn't a person there, I would just find myself walking back out to craft services to get another bag of Sun Chips or something. Like it was something about the fact that it was free. They had gum, they had Mentos gum, they had Tic Tacs.
A
Like, you know what?
B
It was more like. It was. It was more like a Hudson bookseller, minus the books, with more snacks. And you can just have as much of any of it as you want. But there was a guy whose job it was to be on the radio and kind of coordinate, I guess maybe he was technically security, but really what he was doing was going. And sort of like, he was like, okay, so and so is five minutes out, he'd get a call on his radio that was saying so and so was going to be there in five minutes, so we should get ready. Sometimes he'd go get the person, but he was wearing a Philadelphia Eagles pullover. And we had some downtime. And I said, oh, hey, are you an Eagles fan? He goes oh, yeah. And I go, are you from Philly? He goes, yeah. I go, my mom's from Philly. And, you know, I feel very connected to the city. He goes, oh, whereabouts? And I said the name of the high school my mom went to. And he goes, oh, yeah, I used to DJ there all the time. So we were connecting over Philadelphia. And he goes, what team do you root for? I go, well, the Eagles are my backup team, but mostly I'm Seahawks. He goes, what? Why aren't you wearing any Seahawks gear? And I go, I don't know. The super bowl was a couple days ago. He goes, no, no. In Philadelphia, we call it celebration week. And, like, when the Eagles win the super bowl, everyone is wearing. He was. The Eagles didn't even go to the Super Bowl. This guy was wearing Phillies, Philadelphia Eagles gear. And he was like, no, no, we all wear Eagles gear all week after they win the Super Bowl. That's just what you have to do. And I was reminded of the fact that my mom is constantly berating me for not wearing Seahawks stuff. Like, my mom was the other. When I saw my mom before the. Not the NFC Championship game, but the game before that, the one we all watched at the Eagles together, I swear my mom was wearing, I think, a construction vest. Like a vest they give you if you're working on, like, a road project. And it was on top of every other thing she was wearing was like a Seahawks. Like a Seahawks T shirt with, like, Seahawks sweats or something or leggings. And I think she had put on this construction visor vest because it was vaguely the color. Like, it was vaguely the color of something the Seahawks would wear on the field. But it was not. It was not Seahawks branded. I think it was literally, like, for a construction site.
A
Yeah. So that's ability.
B
Type of high visibility gear. That just reminded her of a thing. Maybe the Seahawks color rushed one time.
A
Yes. Right.
B
And. But so that's where my mom is at. Like, she. There's nothing that makes her happier than it being the Friday before Seahawks game. So she can get on Seahawks stuff or the day of or probably the week after. But this appears is a Philadelphia thing. I've just learned.
A
Well, Genevieve said something, and I'm struggling here because I can't remember. She said, I don't care if you say this on the show or if she said specifically, don't say this.
B
Do not under any circumstances, being kind of serious.
A
I know. I can't imagine her being. I can't imagine her being, like, shy about this, but she Genevieve did go to the parade yesterday. I don't know if you care.
B
Oh, that's why you were avoiding it. The old ball and chain was at the parade.
A
Like, if I can't go and have fun. No, I know Genevieve went, but she was at work. And then she went from work to meet up with some other people. We have friends who work for a conservative radio station. Which is just so funny that Genevieve ended up being at the KVI tent. Is that. Yes. Right.
B
Did she have to go spend the same amount of time at the KUOW tent as a kind of a carbon offset?
A
Hey, KOW is not the progressive equivalent of kvi. They are fact based journalism.
B
Did she have to go to the Pacifica tent?
A
Yes. Thank you. They had to go to the Amy. She went to the Amy Goodman tent.
B
Good.
A
Got an Amy Goodman sticker. No, but she did go to the parade and we were kind of in touch via text. And then she came home and like, oh, how was the parade? And she said, I don't mean this as an insult, but Seattle just doesn't have the same energy as other cities when it comes to this stuff. She. She said it a little bit more succinctly than that. And I can't. I'm not protecting her. I just can't remember exactly how she said it, but she was basically saying, did damage.
B
A priceless pergola, Andrew. So we have that going for us.
A
Oh, really? Was there some dam? Was there damage? I didn't know that.
B
Did you see that in the paper this morning?
A
No, I know. I didn't guess.
B
I guess they broke some pergola like in Pioneer Square or something.
A
Oh, well, that's kind of what I said. Teasingly. I'm like, what? Because, you know, Genevieve was in Boston. Let's see, she would have been Boston. Yeah. For 2014. Right. That's when they finally won the World Series. I'm playing fast and loose still. If I'm wrong about that, everybody understands what I mean in spirit. Please don't correct me. It disgusts me, but you know what I mean. She lived in Boston. I mean, and you would see things like when cars on fire. You'd see. Yes. And I even said to her, I'm like, well, what did you wanted to see? More couches on? I said, did you think that it lacked energy because of the number of people there?
B
Like they didn't have to grease the poles like they do in Philadelphia?
A
Literally what I said. Or because people. Did you want people climbing the poles and burning couches? Because when I'm trying to think there was some sort of college. I don't know if it was a college football players playoffs or what it was, but I remember like some university that she worked with or worked for. I think Northeastern. She had Dartmouth. Yeah, no, I know it wasn't Dartmouth. They were. They were able to hold their chill because it's chilly up there. But I remember at Northeastern, like, literally, a team wins, couches burn. A team loses, couches burn. I was like, did you want more mayhem? She's like, no, it's just. I can't explain it. It just doesn't have kind of the same energy as other cities. And I did think of Philly right away, and I'm kind of like, yeah, I mean, I get it would be. I don't know that my attitude towards going to a parade would be different if I were in a different city. I don't think so. I love Seattle, and if I'm going to celebrate any city, I would celebrate this city. But she did say that there's just fandom here, which seems to be pretty intense from my perspective, I guess really doesn't stack up to some of the other cities.
B
Well, I think there's two things. One, there's the night of. Right? Like, that's the sort of, like, immediate rush of.
A
Of.
B
Of mania and madness. And definitely, you know, cities in the Northeast, particularly Boston, and then like, you could say New York if, like, the Knicks were to win or something like that. In fact, I think when the Knicks were making a playoff run, there were some pretty crazy. Some pretty crazy nights there. There's sort of the night of thing, which I wasn't watching the. The news because I was actually. I was in Portland, but I'm sure there was big celebrations in Seattle on the night of the Super Bowl. I remember when I was in Seattle and they won it last time. It was just kind of fun and lovely and people were just honking their horns, just driving around and honking their horns and just kind of yelling. But, like, again, no couches on fire. So you can see that as a lack of. A lack of caring or as an appreciation of couches.
A
Really.
B
Two ways to look at it.
A
To be very clear, Genevieve did not say, yes, I wanted to see more couches on players. She said, of course not. She said, I can't. I just kind of can't explain it. But it just didn't sort of have the intensity that maybe another city would. And maybe that's true. And this. This reminds me of another leg of the Stool Yesterday that you are going, I shouldn't even bring this up because if you want to make fun of me, I feel like now you will really kind of roll your eyes. Talk about virtue signaling as we were on the show the other day. But there was also like this little voice in the back of my head that was kind of like, literally, I'm waking up and I just have several kind of initial reactions. And I gotta say, one of them was a little bit like, I've literally never taken to the streets in recent years when there's been all kinds of show outs for the city, the city showing out to protest something, to raise awareness of something like no king solidarity. I've never done any of that. And I gotta say, I think that there was a little bit of me that was like, I'm gonna show up to this. And it's also just sort of seemed like it paled in comparison a little bit or something. I can't really fully express it and I don't want to make it sound like literally, Luke, I didn't go to that parade because there are bigger issues in this world. Like, that's not how any of this works. And we know that. But I do think for me personally, I was like, I've never showed up for anything that's important. I'm going to show up to yell Seahawks. Probably not.
B
Right? So you're probably sorry. There's some kind of the. The virtue signaling police are coming through.
A
I was about to say the virtue police. Here we go.
B
Yes.
A
I hope, I hope you take that. I hope you.
B
I know.
A
I hope you understand.
B
Well, here's the way that. But yeah, here's the way that I read that, and I could be wrong and correct me, it's that I would say you probably don't have like super duper strong mixed feelings, but somewhere in the very back of your mind, your thought was like, it would have been maybe good to go out to some of those other sort of events to show solidarity with other people, to push back on, you know, the Trump administration to whatever, to march in solidarity with causes that we believe in. And so you're like some part of your brain was like, is the first time that I go out to sort of organize, could it just be to try to get a high five from Ernest Jones as opposed to social justice? You know, which I can understand that logic as well. Again, I don't think I would have been there either. So don't feel too bad.
A
I think that. And for the record, it's not. I'm not a marcher, like, going back to like protests or whatever. Like, I will continue to try to make change in the world in whatever small ways I can. But I don't think I'll ever be a marcher, a protester, somebody who is. Who writes to that particular event. It doesn't mean I don't care. And maybe I sound like I'm like, I don't care, but I do. But that's not my way of showing support necessarily. And so I'm not saying that like, okay, I'm gonna go to some of those and then I'll go to the next super bowl parade. It wasn't like, it wasn't a one to one on that, but it was sort of like, we're just seeing a lot. I think I just had this very passing notion of we're seeing a lot of people take to the streets these days for important things. And I was kind of like, oh, this would be kind of a weird one where I'm suddenly like, yeah, yeah, I need to be there with the people. You know what I mean? It was a very fleeting, fleeting thought.
B
You want to talk about virtue signaling? I actually was just texting Becca the other day saying that we. I haven't been to the no Kings marches myself either, but I think we're going to go to the next one. So if you want to line up to pat me on the back, you certainly can do.
A
When is the next one? Or you just.
B
I think it's March 28th.
A
Okay.
B
And it's like, you know, the speculation is that it's going to be the biggest one yet. And, you know, again, that's pretty low lift for me. It's just, you know, go walk around in Portland and, you know, stand near other people that don't like what's happening on a federal level. But, but I, I think, I think, yeah, I think we're going to go to the next one. So I'm better than you. I think that's what we can all learn.
A
Absolutely. And we'll have something to talk about on the show as opposed to just.
B
Like, I woke up, I will be very drunk. That's the thing.
A
Oh, wait, are we bringing pocket flasks?
B
It'll be rolling. I'm bringing a flask. It's gonna be rolling. Thunder sounds good.
A
I'll see you there.
B
We was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle.
A
On your mark.
B
On your mark.
A
Get set, get set now. Ready, ready, Go.
B
Everybody razzle Dazzle. Hey, let's thank some dazzling donors. These folks are donating a dazzling amount of dough, and we are very grateful. This is 100% listener supported podcasting that we do here five days a week, 52 weeks a year. And we're gonna start off by thanking Dr. Jennifer Wolfe, who's in Aurora, Colorado.
A
That's right, Dr. Wolf. Congrats.
B
Jennifer specifies Wolf like the animal. That was helpful. Thank you. Dr. Wolf says lots of life changes continue for me. I have a PhD now. If I had my bell, I would ring it for you, Dr. Wolf. And yes, I make everyone call me Dr. Wolf.
A
As you know, Andrew, I hadn't even.
B
I had not. Well, okay. You know, Andrew, how much I hate giving it up for the robots. Mm. But I'm gonna give it up for the robots. To the robots. On this one, which is on my phone, not on my laptop, which is what I'm reading off of right now, but on my phone because I don't know how to turn it off. My inbox is doing that summary thing. I didn't ask it to do that, but basically I will get in, I will get an email, and it will summarize the content of the email. And when you sent these. These dazzling donors to me probably yesterday, I was looking at my phone at some point and I saw something in there that referenced Dr. Wolf kind of joking about making everyone call her doctor. That was summarized in the email. So when I then, for the first time today, got eyes on the full thing, was reading it. I was already kind of ahead of the game.
A
Unfortunately, that same AI has put six fingers on Jennifer's left hand. If you look very closely, Dr. Wolf's left hand. Sorry about that.
B
Dr. Wolf's. I need to send Dr. Wolf a too bad they're late card for misidentifying them. That was another thing that it hallucinated the other day when we were talking about tbtl. Anyway, back to our message. Yes, I make everyone call me Dr. Wolfe. New job. I'm the director of Native American Culture and Education, serving 700 students in the 200 schools of Denver Public Schools.
A
Whoa.
B
Yay. Teacher discounts at the movies. Somehow heartbreak feels good in a place like this.
A
I love. This is not the sentence I expected to follow. First of all, congratulations. That is an amazing job. That is so much responsibility. And the first reaction is, hey, I get discounts at the movies. That's why I do it. That's why I'm. I'm Dr. Wolf and I'm in it for the movie discounts.
B
Well, that's how Dr. Wolf is able to be a dazzling donor. All the money she's saving at the cinema went right back into it.
A
Thank you. Let me tell you about our AMC rewards program.
B
I also moved to the suburbs with my boyfriend and his twin middle schoolers. My sons are grown, but Christmas with our blended family was extra. Let's see. TBTL Joyous. I gave my musician son the melodica and he loved it so much. Then I showed him the other instruments and all the kids made an impromptu. Horrible band. Andrew. This was the entire concept with the instruments. And I feel like, you know, when we were talking about this, you know, back before the thon and kind of what could we do that would be fun? I literally was like, it would be pretty fun if we sent out some instruments and then people were just playing a very questionable version of like, like, you know, happy birthday or what have you. And it sounds like it actually happened there in Colorado at Dr. Wolf's house.
A
I love.
B
Was another blessing from the business boys in gratitude, Dr. Wolf. Well, Jennifer, we are so grateful for you and congratulations on the new job and moving and all of the stuff and. And particularly the movie discount.
A
Particularly that.
B
Yes, maybe that above all else. So thank you, Jennifer. Appreciate you.
A
Maestro, on your mark.
B
On your mark.
A
Get set now. Ready, ready, go.
B
Everybody. Rattle dazzle. Well, look who it is. It's our friend. It's the one, the only Lynn fam in Beaverton, Oregon.
A
Hey, Lynn.
B
Hey, Lynn. I was going to say the Marsupial Gurgle himself, but that's not really Lynn's nickname. That's just the website that Lynn does built. Yes, Lynn is not the Marsupial Gurgle. Lynn is the keeper of the Marsupial.
A
Gurgle and the creator. He's. He's.
B
And the creator of it.
A
Dr. Marsupial gurgle. He's not Marsupial gurgle. He's Dr. Marsupial gurgole. Do I have that right? What's the Frankenstein?
B
And he and Lynn and his mom are now the. I just found this out the other night when I was chatting with them. And I hope Lynn, this is okay for me to say, but they are now the. They basically are like they've added four birds to their home, to their family, because there was somebody who had had some trouble or something and had these birds and they couldn't take care of them. And so they took on four birds. And I can't remember, I think they're parakeets. They've got another bird named Ace, who they've had for a while, but these are these other birds which they're now going to take care of for life. And, you know, that's a long time in Birdtown.
A
It is, it is.
B
I think that's why Lynn is able to tolerate this show, because Lynn is a person of patience.
A
So.
B
And has learned that by taking care of birds for many years.
A
I need to explain something. I need to explain myself. It's not interesting, but it's just driving me crazy. What I was doing a moment ago, that was absolutely nonsensical. When I was referring to Lynn as Dr. Marsupial Gurgle. I think maybe Dr. Wolf got in my head. I don't know what's going. I was trying to. What I was trying to do was make a Dr. Marsupial Gurgles Monster joke. I think that's what I was getting at. He created Marsupial Gurgle. He is not Marsupial Gurgle. I was trying to do a Frankenstein versus Frankenstein's monster thing. I got Dr. Mixed in there because of our previous conversation, because I'm mushy brained and I appreciate you just moving on. Just, oh, he's got aphasia. Let's move on. But I just needed to explain to everybody what was happening inside my mushy little brain there.
B
I think it helped that there was a little breakup on the line for me, so I might not have even heard that. Andrew.
A
Okay. Okay. Well, so that was.
B
I was mercifully I was spared from it, but then I was unspared and.
A
It was actually much, much worse. But anyway, from now on until I forget explanation.
B
You know what? I saw like a little clip, a little trailer for this. I feel like there's a lot of Frankenstein's monsters movies right now.
A
Oh, yeah, there are two now. You come to Bride.
B
Seems like a lot to me.
A
The Guillermo del Toro one, which I watched with my dad.
B
Yeah, I guess I didn't know that. And that's Christian Bale, right?
A
Is that Christian Bale in the Guillermo del Toro Frankenstein one?
B
I saw a billboard on Sunset the other day for a Frankenstein's monster movie that I swear to God, it looked like Christian Bale under the makeup. And I was like, how did I not know that this was even happening? I could be wrong.
A
But then there's Oscar Isaac is in it and Jacob Elordi.
B
Jacob Elordi, Yes. Jacob Elordi, sorry. He's of Wuthering Heights fame.
A
Oh, that's him. You mentioned him in passing the other Day I'm like, I don't know that name, but okay. He played the monster. Oh, and Mia Goth as well. Who sort of. It seems like getting a lot of. Getting a lot of heat these days.
B
Then who's in the Bride? Maybe that's the one. Let's see here. Yeah. Okay, so Christian Bale is. Is Frankenstein's monster in the Bride. That's why I was getting confused. And then Jesse Buckley of Hamnet fame is the Bride of Frankenstein. And I just saw some little weird clip of that movie of the Bride and there was just something that Jesse Buckley's character said, and it just seemed kind of cool and weird to me. And I had this thought, like, I might have to go see that movie. I did not have that. Andrew, on my 2026 bingo card, I.
A
Remember seeing a trailer for the Bride having the same exact thought you had, which is, oh, a lot of Frankenstein movies out these days. And also this doesn't look bad. The Bride looked pretty good. I don't remember what I saw, but I saw a trailer in theater and I was like, I could see myself watching that movie.
B
Now, where Lynn Pham comes down on any of the Frankenstein's monsters movies. By the way, I will give the Internet credit. When I was looking up the cast of the Bride, there's a picture of Christian Bale, and under underneath it, it says Frankenstein's Monster. They are not calling him Frankenstein. Yeah, no, calling him Frankenstein's Monster. That does seem like the kind of thing that would matter to Lynn because what I know about our friend Lynn is that he is detail oriented. He is, generally speaking, well informed on things and is not the kind of person who would call it Frankenstein. He would know it was Frankenstein's monster.
A
That's right.
B
And that's what we love about him.
A
As Dr. Marsupial Gurgle himself. He understands these things.
B
Please, Dr. Marsupial GurglE was my father. Just call me Gurgle.
A
Hello and welcome to Top Story.
B
Top Story coming to us from Italy where the Winter Olympics are currently underway. Andrew. Where there have been apparently a number of medal winners who have had their medals, be they gold, silver or bronze, fall off of the, like, you know, ribbon, the necklace, whatever you call that.
A
Yeah.
B
And break on the ground. And of course, because it's 2026, this videos of this have been showing up on TikTok and places like that. The. It's pretty funny because the. The Olympics seem pretty defensive about it. They wanted to clarify to the Guardian that has only been a small number of medals have been coming detached from the ribbon that they're on.
A
And this sound. I'm sorry, this. I almost played this tape at the beginning of the show today of that. I can't remember that British duo from the 70s who do the. Well, of course, the front isn't supposed to fall off. I mean, we try to get ships where the front doesn't fall off. Well, in this particular case, the front fell off. That sounds like such a IOC thing to say.
B
Exactly. Like. Yeah. It's only happened, you know, who knows what, like, 70% of the time, which is still means 30% of the time, the metals aren't falling off.
A
Right, right.
B
The reason that it's happening is because of big government, Andrew. There is a law in Italy, actually. I don't know if it's an Italian law or if it's, like, a European law or what. But the goal, the metals have to be breakaway so that you don't. Like, if you were leaning over an industrial wood chipper and it pulled your gold medal in, it wouldn't pull you in. So many wood chipper references coming from me in the last. Ever since I saw Fargo. Yeah, that's gonna have to go, Andrew. I can't get over it.
A
That's gonna happen.
B
But so it's got basically, like, a quick release that is some kind of a. Like a, you know, a legal thing. And so it's quick releasing too quickly in some cases.
A
Okay. You know, this is. I had seen this on the sheet, but I had not read it myself. I'm not. I mean, they need to make those quick releases work better. So.
B
Yes.
A
You know, but I'm actually kind of not totally against that rule. I don't know. I guess your feeling is like, what is the situation where somebody's going to get hurt on the Olympic dais?
B
It seems to me like, yes, if you make something. Let's say you're making a paw Patrol whistle for kids or something. Yeah. Then there's, you know, there need to be safety, you know, standards around that so that there aren't. There's not a, you know, a strangulation hazard or an injury, you know, waiting to happen. The chances that it's a relatively small number of people who will win an Olympic medal, It seems to me that, like, they would be more or less safe with this thing just, you know, being locked down.
A
I don't know. Olympians tend to be very clumsy, unathletic, uncoordinated people. So you see why we gotta look at. Tell me about this law. You said that it's part of Italian law, But does that mean, like, it was a law that was passed for some other. More like kind of consumer oriented thing, but now they're applying it to the Olympics? They didn't pass a law for the Olympics, did they?
B
No. This is the Guardian. Winter Olympics officials find fix for broken medals and promise repairs. Let's see. A solution has been identified and a fix put in place, end quote. Let's see here. Let's see if the Guardian will let me read this without logging in. Officials have promised to repair any of the medals that were awarded in the opening three days of competition after identifying on Monday that the issue stemmed from the medals cord, which is fitted with a breakaway mechanism required by law. So that's. They didn't. I don't think that this was created for the Olympics. I think it's the law probably in Italy. And so they had to obey the law. They decided.
A
That is interesting. I guess I side with you on that. When you first said that, I'm like, well, at least there's a reason. Because at first I thought it's like, oh, yeah, they're probably just like, you know, I don't know, Luke. And again, I really need to pull out of this. But I just feel like everything these days is so cheap. We're buying everything online, so we're not touching it before we see it. So then when it shows up, everything just always seems cheaper than I expected. Now, I can't explain that. I bought an inexpensive little whiteboard for my dart setup. We had one there for a while. Started to feel like it wasn't coming as clean as it used to. So I'm like, I'll just buy another one. It wasn't expensive. I'm not mad about this, but there was something about the little whiteboard that showed up, you know, eight and a half by 11 or whatever, you know, a little bit bigger than that that just sits up on a wall on a bracket. But, like, literally, the. The part you write on is kind of like bubbling up, sort of not bubbling up. Like you can't write on it, but you can just feel air between it and the board beneath it or whatever. And it's just like, it's like, you know, it's not a big deal, like, it'll totally work for me, but it's just like I feel like almost everything I touch these days, unless it's something that is actually, like, made by a company that prides itself on its design, just feels crappier than it used to. And I think this is just age, you know? Like, I bet you almost any generation before us felt maybe the same way as they got older, things went from metal to plastic, etc. Etc. Like, I hate even hearing myself say this, but I thought that was going to be sort of the story here. Like, oh, yeah, we just got these. We got these. I feel like there's a word for that ribbon that goes around your neck, but whatever it is, they're calling it.
B
A chord in the article, but it doesn't sound right to me.
A
It doesn't. But I thought it was gonna be like, yeah, well, we bought them on Amazon or something like that, right? Or what? You know, Teemu. That was trying to think of temu, right? I thought it was gonna be like a Temu ification of the Olympic story. The fact that it's tied to some law didn't bother me as much. But I guess now that you say it that way, you would think that they would be able to maybe let this one slide. It's a pretty big deal.
B
I saw a standup comedian. There's a guy named Dustin Nickerson who's from Seattle. And it's funny because first of all, he's very funny, but he's getting a lot of attention because he's such a die hard Seattle sports fan that the algorithm on TikTok must know that me and a lot of other people who are Seattle sports fans will enjoy his content because it's both funny but very Seattle centric. And he'll do things like he'll be performing in Houston and he'll like, just be like roasting the, you know, the Houston fans for, you know, for the, the. The Houston baseball team. Andrew, whose name I cannot remember off top, the Astros. Oh my.
A
I'm just glad to see it happen to somebody else. Like just once, you know, he'll like.
B
Roast Astros fans for being cheaters or whatever.
A
Can you remind me of his name again? You just said it, but I already forgot.
B
Dustin Nickerson.
A
Okay.
B
And he also wrote something or he did something that then got rewritten in the Seattle Times as an article where he was basically saying leading up to the Super Bowl, I don't want to come to your super bowl watch party. Because this basically what we keep saying on the show, which is I need to just pace around and be a maniac. Super bowl parties are not for the people who are like the most hardcore obsessed with the team. But anyway, he said something about the Olympics. It was just one of those kind of TikTok videos where he's just kind of walking, talking to his phone. And he just said, like, look, look, if you grew up poor, it's very hard to relate to the Winter Olympics because it's just not stuff that you did as a poor kid. You didn't go skiing. You maybe went ice skating once in a while, but you were not doing it at an elite level. You weren't even probably playing hockey. Like, they're almost all sports, which is a little different than the Summer Olympics. I mean, there's, you know, there's some of the stuff in the Summer Olympics, you know, you just go out to the track and run fast or whatever. But it was like. I don't know why. It just like clicked something in my brain. Like the other day I was saying how, you know, certain years I've kind of gotten into watching the Winter Olympics. It was so weird how this one message from him, he was just basically saying, like, if you grew up poor, it's. A lot of the Winter Olympic sports are just hard to relate to because they just were not something you grew up doing or had a connection to. It clicked something in my brain where I started to see the Winter Olympics as elitist and I started to become like. Because, you know.
A
Do you remember us talking. This is. Sorry, you shouldn't necessarily remember this. That. Well, it sticks in my head. But when I was living in Los Angeles, so this was like, let's say 20. It could have been the 2014. I don't know how groups of four years go by, but there was some Winter Olympics thing, and there was an article in the LA Times about this. I think she. We called her the loser from La Canada. Right. Is that the comedian? Oh, yeah. Do I have that right? La Canada or something like that?
B
Yes.
A
That got us talking again, like 10 years ago or more about exactly this. You actually, I think about it sometimes because I think maybe I brought it up on the show and you're like, I don't know. Like, it's really hard for me to connect with these kinds of like, oh, local, you know, local woman goes to the Olympics. And we should celebrate that because it felt a little elitist and kind of. We didn't have the. We didn't use this in the slang way back then, but a little gatekeepy to you.
B
I was gate kept once and I.
A
Did not like it. Sorry to interrupt you, but it reminds me of. No, no, we went obsessed over that. The loser from LA Canada.
B
It's so funny how, like, it's so funny how. How broken my brain Is because now I'm starting to remember that conversation again. And basically, I'm sure that I said back then what I'm now saying and had forgotten it, had to be reminded by Dustin Nickerson, which was my massive chip on my shoulder about classic. So it's like I felt this way four years ago. In the intervening four years, I forgot that I felt that way. And then I had to have somebody else who comes from a pretty sort of, you could say, working class background remind me that I do think that these are kind of. These sports are a bit elitist, at least they can be. And yet I had no memory of having made that very point on this show four years ago.
A
Yeah, well, yeah, if anything, I'm trying to build you up here because I sort of feel like it was something that you said and you weren't saying it flippantly. We had kind of a serious conversation about it. That, like, that lodged in my memory because I thought, oh, yeah, I guess I never thought about it that way because for me, athletic. I gate kept myself from a lot of athletics. You know what I mean? It wasn't like you were playing. You were interested in athletics in a way that I wasn't. You were playing pickup basketball games and high school basketball games and sports. And I wasn't really doing that because of different physical reasons. And I mean, certainly it wasn't something that I was especially interested in, but I also just was not like the athletic type. And so they all seem far away from me. I gotta say, somebody said something on the radio yesterday that just some sort of random AM radio I was listening to, but some sports person asked another one, like, do you like the Winter Olympics? And he's like, yeah, I do like them. And it reminded me that to most people, and traditionally, going back to the beginning of the Olympics, the Summer Olympics are really the real deal. And the Winter Olympics are the modern phenomenon. And I. But, like, growing up, like, I've always thought that the Winter Olympics are the prestige events. And again, I am not somebody who watches the Olympics. This is just. But it's like, it's so much more interesting to see, to me, somebody on a tiny little sled, bare, turning themselves into a human cannonball and just like racing through these little tunnels on their luges or the skiing events. Like, that stuff is crazy to me. It's so much more interesting than seeing sort of a dusty landscape where somebody's trying to throw a heavy ball or.
B
The most insane of the sports of the Winter Olympics. The doubles lose. Let's Put one person on a really small sled. Hey, what if another person was part of this? Okay. Do they get their own sled? No, they don't just lay on top of the first person.
A
But it looks comfortable, right? It looks comfortable, right? It's.
B
It's absolute madness. It'd be like doubles cycling, where one person is cycling and another person is just piggybacked onto them.
A
Yeah. Not also pedaling, but strapped.
B
No, not with their own seat and gear drive or whatever you call that. Crankshaft. It's like. No, it's just one luge, two guys, and the tightest uniform that anyone's ever worn.
A
It just looks so awkward. Somebody posted a photo just yesterday. It made me laugh so hard. It was just a close up of a double luge. And somebody just wrote, I think I found the answer to the male loneliness epidemic.
B
That's pretty great. There's a right way to rock and a wrong way to roll. You can't just listen to your song. Just remember that.
A
That life is number one.
B
You can be having so much fun.
A
Just remember that life is much fun.
B
You can be nothing.
A
Blurs days. You have them. We read them. That's the TBTL promise. Working on some new branding, Luke? I just. That's just off the top of the dome. I'll work on some more. Did you find a. Did you find a machine box or something?
B
What is that? I did. I'm playing. I'm just. I'm just playing it on my phone.
A
Okay.
B
Usually I'll play some little sound effects for the Blurs days message. I just found something. It's on my instance dot com.
A
Oh, yeah, I'm familiar.
B
And here's a drop.
A
What the dog doing? That got me. What the dog doing? All right, all right. You're back, baby. I know that website, by the way. I like the little buttons they use. They look very satisfying. They're very satisfying. Sort of. Yeah. Okay, so this is how it works. People have. Yeah, that is my sound. I love that.
B
It is literally bad to the bone. It won't stop.
A
That's my energy. Okay, so if you have a birthday wish for yourself or somebody else, you can email me andrewbtail.net and put Blursday in the subject line. Our first blursday today is to Terry, the prettiest little cherry blossom. My apologies for a late birthday wish. You are the best of us. Your kindness has blessed us all. Happy birthday, you rascal. From Aaron.
B
That's too fair. From something called Asian gong and music.
A
Yeah, I don't know How I feel.
B
About that is either that or something called Kawhi Leonard, which. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just drawing.
A
No, no, no, no, no. I need to hear the Kawaii Leonard.
B
I don't. Okay, here comes Kawhi Leonard.
A
Okay, I like it. Is that cry. Laughing.
B
You know, honestly, I'm with you. The buttons are very cool looking. They've got this kind of artificial sort of gloss on them.
A
Yeah.
B
But there's a lag time with it, which is really making this. There's a lag time between me hitting it on the phone and then it going down the line through Riverside and getting to you. I think I'm making the segment much worse.
A
You know what the buttons look like. For those who haven't spent a lot of time at. At my. What is it called again? It's my.
B
My instance dot com.
A
Myinstance dot com. That's by the way, where I got that turkey gobble that I used to play for you all the time. I'd drive. That one would just drive you up the wall. The buttons look like old school arcade buttons. Like the kind that you would hit over and over and over and over and over again in like Gattaca or something like that, which makes them. Makes you want to press them.
B
Galaga.
A
Galaga. What'd I say?
B
Gattaca.
A
Gattaca's a movie. Right?
B
I could.
A
Right.
B
But I've also been on the record as saying I could never read the script of Galaga.
A
No, it's.
B
Never knew what it said. Actually.
A
You're absolutely right that the game is Galaga. And I called it Gattaca. And Gattaca is a movie that Genevieve likes a lot. A great movie. Yeah. It involves cloning. Right. And it's got a law. What's his name, Jude Law in it.
B
I believe it's got Jude Law. It's got Gore Vidal. Oh, yeah. It's basically. It's. I think I haven't seen it for a long, long time, but it's. You basically have sort of two classes of people. There are the people who are, you know, the elites. And then the other people who I think are having their. Maybe their organs harvested or are being, you know, sort of basically used just to grow again. I think it's like organs or something that are then just given to the elites or somehow. It's like, you know, the elites are. The elites are harvesting something from the non.
A
Or it could be DNA or something. Are you serious right now, bro? All right, let's go. Blurs Days Here. Jesse in Hanford, California, says, I'd like to wish a happy, very special milestone 43rd birthday. To me, this has been a great year for personal growth. And I've had the dummies in my ear the whole time. That's us, Luke. Keep doing what you're doing. What you do is so important. Well, I'm glad to hear things are going well, Jesse. Happy birthday. Wait, I know that. What? Play that again. Oh, that's new Bugatti. That's some. The song about the Bugatti, right?
B
I woke up in a new Bugatti. Woke up so blown out. And also, it's way too much of the song.
A
I don't even know why I know that song. Linda in Rhode island says, I have a blurs day wish for Maggie Toosey in Delaware. Her blurs day is on blurs day this year. And that is special. That is special. So I guess. I guess this means we're talking golden blurs day situation. Like today is the actual day of. I love that for you, Maggie. I love that for us. A golden blurs day to you, m', lady, says Linder. To Maggie. Happy birthday. Connor in Vancouver. That's the one in Washington says it's my TBTL daddy Derek's blurs day this week. I can't believe it's been 16 years since he recommended your little podcast to me, but I'm definitely glad he did. I know, I know, I know. Deep breaths. It's always a fun time to try to brag about listening to the latest episode first. Happy blurs day, Derek. I like that, Luke. A little competent Minecraft. I like your cudgy.
B
Did you see that boxer? I'm sure Camaro Kev told you about it. Who was wearing a toupee. I saw it and it was that toupee got knocked right off his head in that fight.
A
He was watching that fight live somewhere. Cause I think that was a weekend night or something. And there was a text chain going on. Like anybody doing anything? And he's like, well, I'm watching this boxing match, then I open up blue sky, and I see that scene being posted all over the place. A guy just being punched repeatedly until his toupee loosens and then loosens further. And then he eventually totally comes off. And I think texted Camara. I'm like, is this the fight that you're watching? He's like, yeah, he threw it out in the crowd to some lucky fan. Can you imagine receiving a toupee in the crowd? That's the worst part of the story.
B
To me, I think this. That's. We didn't talk about it at the time, but it's a fascinating story because the boxer. And I don't know his name off the top of my head, the first thing he. First of all, he was very smart. He immediately carpe ed that diem and just, like, started doing a bunch of interviews afterwards about it and was, like, showing up places, you know, just to basically make fun of himself about his. About his toupee situation and his decision to wear that toupee. But he also. The weird thing was in the. I think it was the press conference maybe right after the fight, he was trying to say that he had tried to use a shampoo at his mom's house and that it had made him bald. And so at the last minute, he decided to wear the toupee. Like, he. Eventually. What I should say is, eventually he realized that he should just kind of, like, embrace this and be silly about it. But there was this brief moment where he was trying to make the argument that he was, in fact, not a bald man, but had put something on his head at his mom's house that had turned him unexpectedly bald, and that then he had had the use of the toupee.
A
See, that's not owning it.
B
It was the most. That was exactly. Initially, he did not own it, and then eventually he started owning it was very charming. When he did own. He was showing up everywhere, you know, with his. With his bald head fully on display.
A
Huh? Yeah, I. It was The. The footage was fascinating, and I did have a lot of questions. I was thinking, like, yeah, why would you. Why would you wear that? You know what I mean? Like, I don't think anyone would be like, look, like, let's laugh. Nervous boxer because he's bald. But it's like, this is so much worse than that. Nobody's laughing at you because you're a bald boxer, but your toupee comes flying off. That's something memorable.
B
Yeah. You have to be so confident that you're not gonna take any shots to the dome. Like, I'm worried if I have too much topic powder in my hair on a windy day and no one's even looking at me.
A
Yeah, right.
B
To go into the ring where there's another huge human being who's trying to punch your head.
A
Right.
B
And to trust that the toupee glue is gonna keep it on. By the way, I was looking something up the other day, and I wasn't Google searching Kenneth Walker the third, the Seattle Seahawk, but it came up and it showed me the other searches around Kenneth Walker iii. And one of the major ones was like, how did Kenneth Walker go bald? And I thought, I don't know. It's called being an adult person in the world who doesn't have hair on their head. Like, is it, is it that shocking that Kenneth Walker III doesn't have, like a massive head of hair? Like, that's, that's a way that many people are in the world. Yeah.
A
You know? Yeah. I mean, I guess after a certain age, it does make him look older than his years. A little. I think he's a. I mean, he's a really good looking guy. And he, he. He wears glasses off the field. He dresses very dapperly. Like, I. I really like his style, actually. And it does sort of give a little bit of. A little bit of older, zaddy vibes. I think maybe I'm. Maybe I shouldn't be using that because I don't fully understand what it means. But that's kind of the vibe I get from him. And it is probably the baldness probably has to do with it. How old is he? Like, he's not that old, right?
B
No, he's coming off his rookie contract, so he's probably 27 or 28 or whatever. But it just seemed like, like I don't find it, you know, when a 27 or 28 year old, 25 athlete. 25. I guess that's maybe a little on the young side, but it just, it never seemed to me like something that. That was like, needed googling.
A
Yeah, no, I'm with you.
B
It never seemed like a what happened to Kenneth Walker thing to me. It was like, I don't know. There's a lot of guys in the league, they shave their head or whatever.
A
Like, you get a little bit of male pattern baldness. You shave the whole thing. Sure.
B
Like, it's. And also speaking of owning it, somebody called Kenneth Walker a conehead. So then his belly is to do a conehead dance. Like, he would, like, put his hands up on his head and kind of mimic like a cone head, which I thought was actually really smart. Like, that's really taking back the narrative.
A
The code head narrative. All right, what are we doing here, Luke? Where are we? Where are we? We did Derek, right? Hi, Derek. Liz wants to wish Justin A Happy 40th Blurs Day. You're an amazing human and an inspiring partner in life. Bob would like to add a furry head. Bump and scream meow. Right in your face. Okay, let me retake this. Bob would like to add a. A furry head bump and a scream. Meow. Right into your face. I'm guessing Bob is a cat or somebody who loves the stage play of cats. The stage performance.
B
Somebody has a really interesting way of showing their affection.
A
Exactly. Yes.
B
Aaron says, do we dare try something called cat laugh meme since we think Bob is a cat? Yeah. Do it. Okay, this is. This has worked exactly 0% of the time so far. So let's try it again.
A
That was a jump scare. That scared me. We can't do that again.
B
Cat laugh meme. Okay, sorry.
A
That scared the. I jumped.
B
My instance.com is not honestly not working out.
A
Yeah. Aaron says. Please help me wish two of my fives happy blurs days. First, Norris, happy 12th birthday. You're a caring and lovely big brother and. And an ornery little brother, which makes you the perfect kiddo. Enjoy year number 12 and happy TB tail Golden birthday to Lennox. You're 14 years old today. You are a loyal and caring older brother and you keep us on our toes and always have a story to share. Thank you for being you. Love, mom, dad and catcher.
B
Aww.
A
Oh no. We're out of music. Ugh. I don't like that feeling. I went to turn up the music and then it just died on me. Like the hot water died on me the other day when the they disconnect.
B
I can play that cat scream again if that, you know, kind of cleanses.
A
Well, I did like the way it relaxed everybody. Let me see here. Can I get enough music just for a little bit more? Tina? Yeah, here we go. Here. Tina says happy TB tail blurs date to my 5 Jace. Now, I'm not 100% sure I'm pronouncing that correctly. It's J, A, C, E. I don't know if you'd say Jace there. JC Jace. Happy TV tail Blursday to my five. Jace, how appropriate that you turn 12 this week after you have been been such an enthusiastic 12 this whole Seahawk season. You're such an adventurous person. I've loved celebrating your birthday with an escape room, mocktails, dumplings, ice cream cake, and seeing the wiz and topping it off with the super bowl trophy ceremony was so special. I love you. Happy Blurs day to Jace. Jace was out there celebrating on my behalf because I lamed out yesterday day I flamed out and I lame.
B
You did not lame out, Andrew. You had the perfect day for you. I don't want you to feel pressure to be fun or root and tootin if that's not. If that's not your way that's not.
A
Your way hey I don't no pressure to be a fun person that people want to be around just you just keep being yourself the unlovable unfun I'll.
B
Be fun Andrew you know what this is the division of labor you stress dream for both of us I'll be fun for both of us okay that's.
A
Good all right enjoy your pizza sweet.
B
All right happy blurs day to everybody that's going to bring us to the end of today's show but guess what we're going to be right back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio I will be back home with my full complement of audio so we won't have to listen to my phone attempts at playing audio drops from there it's going to be much better tomorrow everyone so please do join us for that in the meantime have a great Thursday take care of yourselves and please remember no mountain.
A
Too tall and good luck to all. Power out.
Date: February 12, 2026
Hosts: Luke Burbank & Andrew Walsh
This episode of TBTL (“Too Beautiful To Live”) features Luke and Andrew in classic form, riffing on everything from Los Angeles pizza pilgrimages and robot taxis to the cultural nuances of sports fandom in Seattle. The show explores nostalgia, group celebration versus solitary happiness, virtue signaling, and the peculiarities of the Winter Olympics. Listener “Blursdays” and dazzling donor messages bring heartfelt (and goofy) community touches, flavored by spontaneous jokes and recurring TBTL meta-humor.
“But you refuse to start over. And, Luke, you know what your problem is? You’re burping like crazy.”
— Andrew, 02:15
“It was a nostalgia hit for me to just sit in the back of a driverless vehicle and note the places along Sunset that are now different things from when I lived here.”
— Luke, 06:14
“It was the best meal I’ve had in probably 15 years. It was absolutely phenomenal.”
— Luke, 13:38
“It’s like everything I don’t like about a sporting event without the sports. It’s the crowds, it’s the chants... but there’s no game.”
— Andrew, 23:46
“Please, Dr. Marsupial Gurgle was my father. Just call me Gurgle.”
— Luke, 56:41
“It was so weird how this one message… he was just basically saying: if you grew up poor, a lot of the Winter Olympic sports are just hard to relate to.”
— Luke, 65:09
The conversation is quintessentially TBTL—loose, self-deprecating, meandering, and peppered with deadpan jokes, emotional honesty, and affectionate ribbing. Luke and Andrew’s rapport is familiar and warm, backed by a shared affection for nostalgia and dissection of modern life’s absurdities.
TL;DR:
The episode swings from LA hipster pizza revelations and self-conscious sports fandom to Winter Olympics medal malfunctions and avocado-olive oil cakes, all with TBTL’s unique mix of humor, nostalgia, and listener community heart. The hosts’ sincerity—and inability to stay on topic for more than five minutes—makes for a colorful, relatable ride through their lives and the TBTL universe.