#4670 The Biggest Mooser

Summary

TBTL #4670: The Biggest Mooser – Episode Summary

Date: February 24, 2026
Hosts: Luke Burbank & Andrew Walsh

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Overview

In this lively and quintessentially TBTL episode, Luke and Andrew riff on daily life, AI anxieties in creative work, the recent Winter Olympics, "man caves," and listener stories about eating decades-old mac and cheese. The show features an expressive, conversational tone brimming with running jokes, gentle self-deprecation, listener callbacks, and meandering asides. Main topics include the insidious spread of AI into media writing, the inspiring and fascinating story of Olympic gold medalist Alysa Liu, and the excellence of moldy snack nostalgia. There are also classic segments with dazzling donors, drops, and TBTL live show reminiscences.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cat Drama and Potential for Pet Audience Growth

[03:01-05:25]

• Andrew describes the “dangerous game” of podcasting while his cat, Bingo, paces in the studio to avoid noisy house workers.
• The hosts joke about TBTL’s untapped pet market for audience expansion:
  • Luke: "We've had trouble with humans, with growing the human audience. But if we could get some of the pets donating..." [05:07]
  • Andrew: "Who's a good boy with access to a debit card or a credit card?" [05:16]
• Luke and Andrew compare their systems for remembering credit card info, with Andrew touting password managers, while Luke admits to chronic disorganization.

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2. AI in the Creative Workplace (Major Segment)

[07:03-13:21]

• Luke recounts a “chilling event”: a TV colleague brazenly using ChatGPT to finish a script sentence, as if it were a dictionary.
  • Luke: "He plugged in the beginning of our sentence into ChatGPT so that it could finish the sentence for us. ... The casualness with which he did this." [07:07–08:14]
  • The incident highlights how normalized generative AI is becoming in professional writing.
• Andrew shares an anecdote about "Stranger Things" showrunners nonchalantly having ChatGPT open during production, provoking fan backlash.
  • Andrew: "Who amongst us doesn't have ChatGPT open at all times to help us finish a sandwich?" [11:00]
• Hosts debate when AI is “okay” (e.g., for sales emails) versus when it undermines the soul of creative work.
  • Luke: "If I give away the writing part... there's very little that I'm even doing anymore. So that's why it was galling to me." [13:07]
• Andrew and Luke agree not every job is about the writing, but resist ceding creative output to AI, especially on meaningful projects.

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3. Nostalgia & TV Wordplay – Jeannie Moos

[13:21-18:20]

• The hosts spiral off into loving but bemused nostalgia for Jeannie Moos (CNN feature reporter known for wacky puns), wordplay, and the changing vibe of network TV.
  • Luke: "I think I've sort of won that battle [against puns] through just being annoying... now nobody even suggests them." [17:37]
  • Andrew and Luke reflect humorously on producers' urge for puns versus their own comedic sensibilities.

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4. Inside Baseball: TV Script Battles & the "Man Cave" Debate

[20:09-26:30]

• Luke details the behind-the-scenes saga of a profile piece on UFC's Dana White:
  • The story's news peg keeps shifting due to network politics and the UFC's new distribution deals.
  • Luke: "Originally, the idea was... to do a story about this person who's ... pretty important in sports ... and you could even say political culture..." [20:29]
  • The circular decision-making and delicate balance of fairness in journalism are highlighted.
• Luke recounts resisting being forced to call Dana White's office the “ultimate man cave”.
  • Luke: “I turned to the person and said, ‘I'm not saying the word man cave on television.’” [25:23]
  • The rule: never say anything on camera you wouldn’t absolutely want aired.

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5. Listener Engagement: Dazzling Donor Segment

[28:25-31:52 & 41:12-43:36]

• Heartfelt thanks and fun stories with donors Paul (Crownsville, MD) and Angela (Corpus Christi, TX).
• Andrew and Luke reminisce on the Philadelphia live show (episode #4304), pandemic weirdness, and TBTL’s enduring sense of community.
  • Classic callback: Andrew’s “Phantom of the Opera” entrance due to COVID isolation, recounted with self-aware humor.
  • Requests for rapid-fire "drops" (soundbites), and discussion of beloved TBTL in-jokes.

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6. Olympics Extravaganza: Alysa Liu & More

[46:19-56:44]

• Luke shares Alysa Liu’s inspiring story: from prodigy under a demanding single father, quitting skating, rediscovering joy, “firing” her dad as coach, to returning and “skating literally to her own music.”
  • Luke: “She skated with such... joy and degaff energy... just totally enjoying it, which later she said she was.” [51:12]
  • He’s deeply moved by the image of Alysa’s dad crying in the stands, celebrating a healthy parent-child dynamic.
  • Luke: “Anything that's like dads and daughters really obviously hits me in an emotional place.” [52:34]
• Andrew raises the issue of U.S. athletes’ political commentary at the Games, Trump’s derisive social media posts, and the U.S. women’s hockey comeback to gold.
• The fellows dissect a bizarre Scandinavian skier’s post-games press conference “apology proposal” and its problematic “dragging in” of an ex-girlfriend.
  • Andrew: “Now the person that wronged her has now put her in this position...” [62:13]
  • The boundaries between public figures’ private foibles and media narratives are treated thoughtfully and humorously.

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7. Listener Voicemail: Vintage Mac & Cheese Taste Test

[62:33-71:12]

• Andrew plays a voicemail from “Peter” who confesses to cooking/eating a box of mac and cheese from 2015 (Best By date over 10 years old); the cheese powder had gone brown, but he survived, even if the taste was “off.”
  • Andrew and Luke marvel at the powder’s color shift, discuss ketchup oxidation, and riff on the collectibility of old condiments.
  • Luke: “The cheese is brown. He's just, like, eating it crying.” [67:15]
• The healthiness and food safety risks (and the immortal idiocy/humor of TBTL listener stunts) are joyously mulled.

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8. Miscellaneous & Running Jokes

• Andrew’s cat Bingo continually attempts to disrupt the production, providing running commentary.
• Discussions of forgotten/odd phrases (“Manson lamps”), mustard museums, and obscure baseball references (Gorman Thomas).
• End-of-show trademark: “No mountain too tall. And good luck to all. Power out.” [71:58–72:08]

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

On AI in the Writer’s Room:

• "He plugged in the beginning of our sentence into ChatGPT so that it could finish the sentence for us... The casualness with which he did this." – Luke [08:14]

On Audience Expansion:

• “If we could get some of the pets donating... Who's a good boy with access to a debit card or a credit card?” – Andrew [05:07, 05:16]

On TV Clichés:

• “I turned to the person and I said, I'm not saying the word man cave on television.” – Luke [25:23]

On Olympic Joy:

• “She skated with such just, like, kind of joy and ... degaff energy, just ... totally enjoying it...” – Luke [51:12]

On Eating Ancient Food:

• “I did make it, I did eat it. I did survive. The cheese powder... was a little bit more brownish and the taste was not, it was a little off. But again I did survive.” – Peter (voicemail) [63:30]
• “The cheese is brown. He's just, like, eating it crying.” – Luke [67:15]

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Memorable Moments

• Pet listeners as a growth market [05:00]
• Luke’s horror at AI in the creative process [08:37]
• Olympics figure skating gold for Alysa Liu, the “one shining moment” [51:10–53:24]
• Debate over “man cave” on TV, and Luke’s ironclad refusal [25:23]
• Listener voicemail: eating decade-old mac and cheese [63:30]
• Live show stories: Andrew as Phantom of the Opera, pandemic logistics, and fan-favorite drops [31:50–38:30]

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Conclusion

This episode delivers classic TBTL: quirky banter, forays into media ethics and wordplay, Olympics joy, and a strong bond between hosts and listeners. Luke and Andrew’s chemistry and self-awareness shine as they question AI’s place in their world, celebrate genuine moments in sports, and marvel at the oddities of daily life. Whether musing on figure skating, man caves, or brown cheese powder, the episode melds heart, comedy, and community for listeners old and new.

Transcript

[Andrew]

Hi.

[Luke Burbank]

Hi. Where's Stevie? Um, I don't know, but she will be back in 15 minutes.

[Andrew]

What are you doing?

[Luke Burbank]

I'm checking the mail. Did you know that you can still get mail? Yes, I know about mail. No, but I'm talking about, like, mail mail. Like a little man in a uniform with his satchel full of letters traveling door to door. Um, that's a mailman. And he comes to your house. You. You pay him and he gives you your stuff. I think it's free delivery. I don't think. How far into the 15 minutes do

[Andrew]

you think we are? TBT. El,

[Narrator/Announcer]

The faces may not look familiar, but the voices.

[Luke Burbank]

This zany radio team have developed a unique style of frolicking on the airwaves. Basically, I just like coming in and having fun. Yeah, it's a great way to make a living. Do you have any music, Carl?

[Andrew]

Have the Internet radio? I love Internet radio. You've come to the right place.

[Luke Burbank]

Cause I have that.

[Andrew]

Where am I right now?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't even remember.

[Andrew]

Who are you? Who's that handsome hunk of a clam holding those flowers?

[Luke Burbank]

Are those or me?

[Andrew]

Aw, I can't stay mad at you, Goldie. Oh, my God. Man. We are seeing some we ain't never seen before.

[Luke Burbank]

All right. Hello, good morning, and welcome, everyone, to a Tuesday edition of TBT all the Time show that just might be too beautiful to live. Oh, and the adventure begins again. My name is Luke Burbank. I'm your host. Hey, cheer up. It's Taco Tuesday. Coming to you from the Madrona Hill studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where we are seeing some rain and some. Didn't know you like to get wet, though. Some wetness, but that's to be expected this time of year. We are. I've noticed that it is staying light a little bit longer. The other day was the first time that I was like, oh, you know what it's like after five, and it's not pitch blackout. And that feels real good. Real good. Sort of like arriving at episode 4670 in a collector series also feels real good.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Let the fun begin.

[Luke Burbank]

All right, I know we're a little. They had the closing ceremonies of the Olympics, which is usually an indication that we've now moved on. But I can't move on from the story of this one American ice skater who I honestly was just unbelievably impressed by not just her skating, but her whole je ne sais quoi. So we're gonna talk. I mean, I figured he had to Be in sport. But he wasn't in sport. We'll talk Winter Olympics two days after the closing ceremonies. And also, I had a chilling run in with someone that I work with using AI.

[Andrew]

Does this sound like a musical robot?

[Luke Burbank]

AI did not like it, my friends. We'll talk about that. And we're going to say hello to this guy. Longest running cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. Hey there, Fireball. He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Andrew]

Good morning, Luke. I'm playing a dangerous game over here today.

[Luke Burbank]

What's that?

[Andrew]

This is exactly the time of day when Bingo beelines it out of my office to go hang out in the rest of the house because he does not like the sound of me podcasting, which is fine. Fine. It's not for everybody. Having said that. We do.

[Luke Burbank]

It's not for most people.

[Andrew]

It's not for most people. Unfortunately, we have workers here today, and I will say the workers. There's nobody who cares about Bingo. Not just his safety, but his happiness.

[Luke Burbank]

That's nice.

[Andrew]

I mean, more than these workers. I mean, maybe they're tied with us. Did I tell you I came out of my office the other day, and Adrian, the contractor, was here, and he thought I was gonna be in my office for a while. And I came out, and he was doing a little selfie video with Bingo the cat. Did I tell you that? No. Yeah, I. He's like, the cat is on his shoulder, and he's walking around the basement

[Luke Burbank]

narrating like a Bob Dylan song, sort

[Andrew]

of a car, it on his shoulder, a Sami's cat.

[Luke Burbank]

And.

[Andrew]

Yeah, so in other words, I mean, he has brought his fan, all of his family members over here at some point or another to meet Bingo. So I know that, like, they are really looking out for Bingo. But I figured, hey, the door is open. They're tearing some walls out. Like, maybe it would just be best if Bingo stayed in here with me today. But what he's doing right now is he doesn't like this. He doesn't like the sound he's hearing right now. He's pacing by the door, and he wants to get out of my studio, but I feel safer with him in here. But I don't know how long this is gonna last until he realizes, oh, well, to get Andrew's attention, I'm gonna start walking on the audio board and start punching all those buttons that mess up the recording.

[Luke Burbank]

He is basically having the experience of many an 11 of listeners.

[Andrew]

Yes, he's trapped.

[Luke Burbank]

He's trapped in a room with this nonsense. Exactly. He can't get away from it and it's bothering him.

[Andrew]

I'm turning you into a ten. Bingo.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, if we could get, if we could just get some of the pets in the. You know what we never thought about, that's maybe some potential audience growth for us. We've had trouble with humans, with growing the human audience. But if we could get some of the pets donating.

[Andrew]

Okay, let me try some of the,

[Luke Burbank]

some of the pets. Just go get your parents.

[Andrew]

Who's a good boy?

[Luke Burbank]

Who's a car? Who. Credit card.

[Andrew]

Yeah, who's a good boy with access to a debit card or a credit card?

[Luke Burbank]

Who's a good boy? Who remembers the three number code on the back of the card?

[Andrew]

It's woof, woof.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you remember any of that stuff by memory, like the security code on your cards or do you have to get them out of your wallet every single time?

[Andrew]

Well, I now have like several systems on my computer. I went from, I went from doing the oldest Manus move, which is every time I ordered something online, getting my George Costanza wallet, pulling out my credit card and filling out all the information. But now I've got an actual password keeper thing. I think we use a dash lane, not dashlane. What's the one? LastPass, which has all my information in it. I use.

[Luke Burbank]

I know you and Hayes are on me to do one of these things.

[Andrew]

Yeah, he's, he's him more than, than me really. In the famous words of my mom, the loving words of my mom, I don't care what you do is something gentle. And I say to each other quite a bit, rest in peace. And so I got that. I got my Google wallet going on. I've got like Chrome now, remember some bits of information. So when I'm at checkout, it's sort of a mad scramble of technology of which one of these services is going to autocomplete for me. And some of them remember the last three and some of them don't.

[Luke Burbank]

It's total happenstance for me when it's going to remember it or not. And I'm always so happy when it does because I never know where my wallet is. You know, I'm like in bed or something on my laptop buying something and then I have to get up and go find the wallet, dig the card out, figure out what the little three digit code is. I wanted to talk to you a little bit, Andrew, about a truly chilling event. The other Day when I was working with someone.

[Andrew]

Yes. By your tease at the beginning. I want to hear about this.

[Luke Burbank]

It was a minor. It was a quick moment, but it's still. I want to be a little bit vague. Let's just say I was working with someone in the capacity of my television job, and we were going through a script, and we were kind of trying to brainstorm the kind of beginning of this script, and we were kind of saying, like, if so, you know, if this is. If such and such is this, then such and such is that. And we were trying to kind of finish. Finish the sentence of this, sort of comparing. If, you know, comparing this thing to that thing. And that would mean this for this other thing. I'm sorry it's so vague, but if I'm more specific, then everyone will be able to figure out what and who I'm talking about. And the person that I was working with, he was like. Couldn't figure out how to end this sentence. And he goes. And he goes, okay. And he's like. He goes, let's just. We're putting it into CHAT GPT. He plugged in the beginning of our sentence into CHAT GPT so that it could finish the sentence for us. And what was crazy to me was the casualness with which he did this.

[Andrew]

Like, how did he do it? I mean, on his phone. Is he using speech?

[Luke Burbank]

We're. I don't know. He was in New York and I was here.

[Andrew]

Okay, so you're.

[Luke Burbank]

And we were on the telephone together. So I don't know what his. I don't know what. I assume maybe his laptop.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

But it was like, what I thought was, oh, this guy's been doing this. This is. He didn't even go, hey, get a load of this. I'm going to use CHAT GPT. It was just like. Let me look this up in the dictionary. It was second nature already. Which tells me, are we doing that now? Are we writing our TV scripts? Are we using ChatGPT to finish our, like, sandwiches. We finish each other's sandwiches. I was like.

[Andrew]

I was.

[Luke Burbank]

It chilled me to my core. I felt like. I felt like that was. We're really. We're really giving our jobs away to the robots if we do that. Right? Like, that's. And again, I don't. That's. I'm not trying to shame my friend who I work with, but I found that to be shocking behavior. Is that shocking behavior to you?

[Andrew]

Well, I. Unfortunately, no. I mean, it's sort of shocking because you and I. Well, me especially, because I don't even have these side gigs. But we're kind of in our own little bubble on this stuff. And I think if we had real jobs where we, you know, a little man comes and delivers the mail, David.

[Luke Burbank]

And you pay him.

[Andrew]

Yes, but if we walked to our little jobs, you know, but if we were like having the kinds of meetings that Genevieve has and whatever, I think you'd be surprised at how much people are using these tools. Something struck me. You're familiar with the show Stranger Things on Netflix, right? It had its series finale a while back and it was mostly, I think, well regarded. Right. As far as.

[Luke Burbank]

Actually, I heard a lot of mixed reviews, mostly from my nieces.

[Andrew]

Yeah, sorry, I was kind of pausing there to cough a little bit, but things were covering for me. But anyway, so stranger things came out, but there was a lot of buzz around it, as you know. It was quite a cultural moment. Right. And after. Or maybe maybe consecutively with the. That's not the word I'm looking for. What's the word when two things happen at the same time. They released a documentary about the making concurrently is exactly the word I was looking for. And they released a little document documentary, a little behind the scenes doc, if you'll recall. I don't know if you do recall, but there's a little bit of a backlash because the fan base of this show is so like kind of intense and focused. Right. That they were breaking down the documentary and doing a lot of pausing and looking at what's in the background. And apparently somebody had a chat. I think one of the. One of the show creators was being interviewed and eagle eyed fans noticed that he had chat GPT in the background. Do you remember this? Are you hearing about this?

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, this is the first time hearing of it.

[Andrew]

I'm pretty sure it was one of the creators. And so people were like, what? To what degree was chap GPT used to create this show? And somebody later on is now interviewing one of the showrunners or showmakers about this and the online backlash. And he's like, no, we're not using ChatGPT to write the show. But who amongst US doesn't have ChatGPT open at all times to help us finish a sandwich? And that was the general tone of it. And the reason I saw it because I saw bunch of people on Blue sky saying, I'm raising my hand. I do not have ChatGPT open at all times. I do not have ChatGPT.

[Luke Burbank]

I literally wouldn't know where to get

[Andrew]

ChatGPT from, but I do. I think it might be a generational thing. Like, I'm actually put off by the idea of AI. Right. Other people just don't know much about it or aren't necessarily using it. But then there are. I think there are just a lot of people who are just like, yeah, it's just their new Google, like what we use Google or used to use Google for. People are just chatgpting all kinds of stuff all the time. Like, I know that Genevieve will use it sometimes in her job as a writer, but she will use it very specifically to generate ideas or an outline or something that she can then fill in as a writer. I don't want to make it sound like the president of the University is reading ChatGPT stuff, but when Genevieve does it, she's doing it in a very like, okay, maybe for this project, I'll turn to this device or this technology to kind of help me see the outline of this, and then I'll do the writing on it or something. But it's still like a deliberate thing, right? Whereas I think other people are just like, yeah, no, it's just, of course, it's like it's the new Google. It's just open all the time and it's finishing our sentences.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, to me, it feels like it depends on what your job is and how you think about your job. So, for instance, if I am somebody who works in sales and I have to write a certain number of, like, emails or whatever just to kind of, I don't know, let people know what's going on or to pitch something or whatever. But I don't think of my job as really writing. I think of my job as selling. Then I feel like, yeah, go for it. Have ChatGPT write your next whatever, you know, deck or your pitch to a client or, I don't know, you know, just to me, it's like, for me, the only thing I have to offer in my TV job really, is these phenomenal good looks. But second to that is, is my writing of these scripts. Like, I take that sort of pretty personally. And I also feel like that is, you know, when the robots replace me, it's going to be because they're writing the scripts too. And then, you know, they'll just have some other voice. You know, there'll be some generated voice that records the voiceover that I do. I feel like if I give away the writing part of this, there's very little that I'm even doing anymore. So that's why it was galling to me.

[Andrew]

But I don't never, ever, ever used ChatGPT.

[Luke Burbank]

Who?

[Andrew]

Genie Moose. Are you tired of napping? Using a cap or a sleeve to block out the light? The snazzy way to sleep while you trav. Move over, Snuggie.

[Narrator/Announcer]

The blanket that has sleeves.

[Andrew]

The Snazzy Napper is the new blanket on the block.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. We were randomly texting about Genie Moo the other day.

[Andrew]

Who had a real. Or is it s Silent?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't remember. I think it. Maybe it's not silent. Maybe it's Moose. She probably said. Does she say her name? Does she sock out with it?

[Andrew]

Let's see. Okay, I hate to skip the entire Snazzy Napper segment.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, how long could it be? A min?

[Andrew]

It's two and a half minutes. They used to. They used to. Really? Yeah. You're coming from cbs. This is cnn. Fifteen years ago office. But only when I'm covering Snazzy Napper or it's covering me. Hello, Genie Moose. CNN kind of swallowed it.

[Luke Burbank]

Genie Moose.

[Andrew]

Genie Moose. Anyway.

[Luke Burbank]

Genie Moose.

[Andrew]

Yeah. So there, at some point on this very podcast, several weeks ago, I did something that I had not done for the first time. Like, this happened several times where I tried to tell you about some sort of TV commentator who sort of lives in my head and I can never remember her name.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, right.

[Andrew]

And I have no idea why. But this weekend I sat down on the couch for a second. I'm putting on my shoes, the television is on, but it has nothing to do with CNN or commentary or anything. And suddenly the name Jeannie just pops into my head and I'm like, that's the woman. That's the. I always thought she was with CBS or NBC, which is one of the reasons I had trouble finding. That was.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes, okay. That was who you were trying to remember.

[Andrew]

This is the person I was trying to remember.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. You had the wrong network. I think that was why I was confused.

[Andrew]

And technically she's a feature reporter, not a commentator. Like, but I mean, when it's about the Snazzy Napper, I mean, there's a pretty fine line between it and she would just use tons and tons of like. I think it came up because you were talking about, like, the B roll somebody was using. Wait, was this. Was this a on air conversation? This was.

[Luke Burbank]

Who can remember?

[Andrew]

I hope I'm not. I don't want to sell out you and your colleagues for the second time during this.

[Luke Burbank]

I've already spilled the beans that CBS Sunday Morning is using ChatGPT to write its scripts.

[Andrew]

Now That I think about this. This might not have even been on this very podcast, as I said, but you and I were having a conversation about a piece you were working on. And I will try to be gentle here. And I can beep it all out if you want. Where some of the B roll that was being chosen for your commentary was not exactly in line with what you had expected or what you pictured while writing it. And so I was thinking about, like, people who would jam in because Jeannie Moose would just, if I'm saying her

[Luke Burbank]

name correctly, we'll never know.

[Andrew]

1-323-30 she would just, like, her pieces were just jam packed with just like any, like, if, if a cultural reference came anywhere even near her topic, they'd just be bringing it in, like the snazzy. Or I was watching something that she had put together about some sort of new technology. 1 turd, 2 turdi 3 turdi. Supposed to make it easier for ketchup to come out of bottles. So, like, she has to include, like, the clip of Tony Sopr getting mad at a ketchup bottle and like, everybody who's ever gotten mad at a ketchup bottle in pop culture. But it's just like, just jam, just jammed in there and it's just like rat a tat tat puns. And it was just like a type of, a type of television that I don't go in for.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, it was a whole vibe there for a while, though. That was when I feel like CNN was at the height of its powers. And, and like, yeah, Jeannie was definitely the, the color. She's not there anymore. I'm on her Wikipedia page. Yeah, no, but she was sort of the, yeah, she would do those kind of, you know, fun, like, they were basically humor pieces. But I mean, I just remember that, like, cnn. CNN would be on in every, like, newsroom or bullpen that I was working in. And a couple of times a day, yeah, you'd look up and you'd see Jeannie doing some kind of a, a funny piece that was full of wordplay. That's. I think that, I think that the. I've worn down the producers of CBS Sunday Morning at this point through just constantly shooting down their ideas for wordplay that now nobody even suggested. I think I've sort of won that battle through just being annoying, I guess, or being a. No, but. Because when I first got there, I swear to God, the number. If we were doing a story that didn't have a lot of. There wasn't a super serious story. I Felt like the suggestions from the producers when it came to the script almost always involved punnery. And I was just like, I can't. I cannot put my. I can't co sign that. I cannot. I can't put my name and my voice on that. And so over time, I've noticed that they've suggested fewer and fewer puns. We're almost down to no puns being suggested.

[Andrew]

Good. Well, that. That brings up check.

[Luke Burbank]

But I think our thing is, I think the viewers probably like it. Like, Mo Rocca is not above a pun, and everyone loves him, and it's funny when he does it. I just would die inside if I were doing well.

[Andrew]

Let's get back to this original story. This. How did I do in finishing this sentence?

[Luke Burbank]

Did something that would have been passable, but I ended up going back and again rewriting it and making it different than what the AI did.

[Andrew]

Serious question. If you just received that edit back and you hadn't been on the phone with the producer at the time and you didn't know that it was AI, is there a chance that that line would have just been fine by you, but you were drawn to rewrite it because you knew its origin?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, that's impossible for me to know, I guess, but I think I would have still tried to rewrite it because it wasn't saying what I was hoping to say at the top of the story, you know, so it was. It was. Yeah. And also this. Well, whatever. Nobody cares. This is that Dana White story I've been working on.

[Andrew]

Oh, okay. So it's very.

[Luke Burbank]

So I'm Very, very.

[Andrew]

Exists, huh?

[Luke Burbank]

It. Not only does it exist, but I. Going on TV next.

[Andrew]

Really. Okay, interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

And I, you know, I've talked about it here on the show that I just. It's. The story has kind of given me fits because I don't want. I want to be fair and journalistic, and I want to be. I want to be accurate about this guy, Dana White, who is both a very interesting, influential character and also somebody that's got a lot of baggage and a lot of problems. And so figuring out how to, like, you know, present that sort of accurately and fairly. Like, of all the stories that I've done in a while, this is one where I really, really, really want the language to be right, at least as right as they'll let it be. And so I don't think I would have. I know what you mean. I'm sure there are other lines and other stories that if you use ChatGPT and you just sent it to me as a revision, I wouldn't bat an eye. But this is one where I'm really, like, I'm really, really sweating the deets on this because I really hope that the story comes out again interesting and fair and accurate.

[Andrew]

Yeah, this story is more fraught, and I don't even know if you want to talk about this, but this story is more fraught now than it was when you first started working on. It was pretty fraught then. As far as what's going on with CBS and the administration, what is the news peg for it now? Because I asked you that last time, and the peg I thought was the event, but that event is long, long

[Luke Burbank]

past now because I have absolutely no. What's the word? Judgment around talking about the inner workings of my other job. I'll lay it on you. Originally, the idea was we're going to do a story about this person who's a kind of, again, pretty important person in sports, and you could even say political culture to some degree because he's friends with Trump. And that was this summer. We were filming it, and then there was a conversation with 60 Minutes where they really wanted to do a profile of him. And they literally asked, can we do ours first? Even though we'd already filmed ours. And I thought that might mean that our story was going to, you know, we were slowly putting a pillow over our story, which, again, I was sort of okay with not wanting all the smoke. Then the. Apparently that was not the case. There were still many people that were curious about the story of, you know, what we had filmed in Las Vegas, and what was the sort of status of that piece? So then I thought, well, if we're gonna do this, we should attach it to the fact that there's gonna be a UFC fight on the front lawn of the White House this summer. Because that, to me is. I mean, let me. I think the listeners of this show would know what I think about that. But at least it's a. It's a news event, even if it's like a Holy shit, can we believe. You know what I mean?

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd forgotten. I'd. I'd forgotten that that's supposed to happen. That's actually a really good peg. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Because it just gives us a way into the story. Like we now live in. We live in a version of this. We're in the timeline where when America is turning 250, they're having a UFC fight on the front line. And, oh, by the way, they actually moved it to June 19, which happens to be Donald Trump's birthday. So, anyway, that was going to be the news peg, and then I got a call recently that was like, no, actually, they want it for next week. Because there was pressure being brought to bear from somewhere, not even maybe within my own show, having to do with the fact that Paramount is now the new home of the ufc. Andrew. So when we filmed this story that certainly we did not know that, nobody told us that. That was not something my bosses knew. Now it is a reality. And so it's unclear to me why the story has exactly been moved up. But it has been moved up, and it's going out next week, I believe, unless it gets dropped for some reason. And what I will definitely say is it will be the most parsed story that I've ever done on the network. Like, it's going to go through a lot of standards and practice. It's going to go through a lot of lawyers. Who knows who else is going to get eyes on it? But it's a different world for me compared to. Well, for instance, when we're done recording today, I'm getting on an airplane and flying to Kansas to do a story about Bingo, not the cat. The thing that people like to do. That's my lane. That's where I thrive. Stories about mayonnaise and bingo. Stories with very, very low impact on the wider world.

[Andrew]

I realize that again, at any point, this isn't live. We can cut this out. But I'm going to keep on pushing with these questions. Why are you not doing a story about Bingo the cat?

[Luke Burbank]

Because apparently your contractor has already flooded the zone with TikTok content. The story's over. And that's the thing. In this fractured media landscape, he's getting more views than I am working for a major network.

[Andrew]

It's about being on site, Luke. This is the deal. You know what I mean? He's here. That counts for more right now. But don't forget bingo.

[Luke Burbank]

People want that relatability factor.

[Andrew]

Bingo. I can tell he's getting restless, but he's now cleaning himself. And so he might hop up here at any moment. If he does, I'm happy to give him the cans and you can ask him a few questions or anything, if it would help your story. I'm sure he's willing to talk.

[Luke Burbank]

Couldn't hurt. Yeah, couldn't hurt. Just like we're talking. Just like Dana White, he's in his dojo of an office with all the samurai swords, and then just cut to

[Andrew]

Bingo, just looking, just kind of tilting his head. A little bit, like, questioning a little bit.

[Luke Burbank]

I did. Andrew, you'll be happy to know this, I did win the man cave argument.

[Andrew]

Oh, oh, what did somebody want to put man cave, like you're in. You're watching UFC in your man cave or something?

[Luke Burbank]

Well, no, it's like we are in. In this guy Dana White's office in Las Vegas, which is, you know, this insane sort of glass, you know, structure with millions of dollars of like, art and artifacts in it. You know, paintings and weaponry and like, just everything. You would sort of expect a guy like Dana White to have, like, it's like, I think there's like a machine gun that's shooting money because war is really about money. It's some real deep art, you know, it's some real. And like a Kalashnikov that's shooting $100 bill or something. I don't know. But one of the people I was working on the shoot with kept coming up to me and kind of trying to feed me the line, is this the ultimate man cave? They wanted me. Somebody wanted me to keep. Somebody kept wanting me to ask Dana White, is this the ultimate man cave?

[Andrew]

And you kept scratching it out, writing, she shed. And they kept writing man cave. You kept writing, she shed. Uh huh huh.

[Luke Burbank]

And I turned to the person and I said, I'm not saying the word man cave on television.

[Andrew]

Good. And the.

[Luke Burbank]

And the person was like, okay, okay. And then like, literally, like two days later, we're still shooting. And the person comes up to me, goes, just, I'm just curious why the pushback on man cave? And I was like, I was, I said, I just think it's really overused. And I. And I know that if I even say it, this is the one thing I've learned, I guess, working in television, Andrew, is I'm now. And maybe this is like diva behavior on my part. I never, I will. I now refuse to say anything on camera that I'm not willing to, that I would die if it was in the story. Because what used to happen is they would say, well, just try it. Just, just do it as a take. And we won't even use it. We'll just say it and then. But once you've committed it to celluloid, then it. Then there's a possibility that you'll get overruled and end up on tv. So what I've learned now is like, don't even say it. Do not even give them the footage of you saying man cave. But I was worried it was going to get reintroduced in the script somewhere. But I'm happy to say that here on this Tuesday, as this is being aired, Man Cave is nowhere near that script. So I at least won that battle.

[Andrew]

Nice. Well, congratulations. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of reasons I don't have the jobs that you have. I mean, talent being somewhere near the top of the list, but. But also, it would just be all of that. I'd be like, no, I won't say that. No, I won't say that. No, I won't eat that. No, I won't eat that. No, I won't say that. No, I won't do that. No, I won't do that. I won't say that, do that, or eat that.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't want to eat anything bought, sold, or processed or cooked or uncooked. It is weird also how much of this job does involve me eating things

[Andrew]

and meat sometimes, too, which is something

[Luke Burbank]

a lot of times. And as I've said before on the show, it's. I'm so poorly cast in the role of person who eats things on camera because I don't have a good vocabulary for describing what it is I'm tasting. Like, if I'm out with Becca and we're eating something or having a glass of wine, it's, like, incredible. The way that she, like, her palate works and the way she interprets. Like, oh, it's this, and then it's this, and then I'm getting a hit of this and stuff, and I'm just like, I'm not getting any of that. And so I just have to constantly go like, oh, my God, that's really good. That's my look for that. If you see me eating something on television.

[Andrew]

That's really good.

[Luke Burbank]

That's really good. That's my signature take on food, Andrew.

[Andrew]

Well, I mean, I got this tape of you. I think you were doing a piece on rice. The rice.

[Luke Burbank]

You have really outdone yourself.

[Andrew]

The rice is great. Oh, thanks, man. You know what?

[Narrator/Announcer]

That means a lot to me when you.

[Andrew]

Dad, the rice is perfect.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, it's moist. It's perfectly cooked.

[Andrew]

You timed it right. Yeah. So tender, but it's not mushy.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, it yields to the bite, but not without a little struggle, you know, I mean, you gotta still open your mouth and chew it.

[Andrew]

It's not that. It just goes right in.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Well, it's not gonna bite itself.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I know what you're saying. So, anyway, good job on that piece. I thought that was a really interesting piece. One of your best.

[Luke Burbank]

We Was hoping for some razzle dazzle. Razzle dazzle. That's right, man. Razzle dazzle. On your mark. On your mark.

[Andrew]

Get set, get set now. Ready, ready, go.

[Luke Burbank]

Everybody rattle dazzle. All right, let's thank some dazzling donors. These wonderful folks are dazzling us with their donation of dough, and it's how this show can continue. Five days a week, 52 weeks a year, every single day except weekends, we bring you a new TBTL episode. And it's thanks to folks like Paul Pope, who's in Crownsville, Maryland.

[Andrew]

Hey, hey.

[Luke Burbank]

Paul says time for my annual dazzling donor check in. So last year, I broke my ankle, and I was so focused on that and slagging on y' all calling you dummies that I forgot to mention that I was at the live show in Philly. I was the guy in the fedora behind Luke's Uncle Chuck. I got a shout out from Luke doing that show. That was episode 4304 at timestamp 2201, which will be my TBTL claim to fame forevermore. I really enjoyed the show and hope you're planning to hit the east coast again soon. Okay, that's my dazzling donor message for the year. I hope you guys can keep doing what you're doing for years and years because I love your show. I love what you do, and what you do is so important. I pledge to continue to donate so you're able to keep it up and encourage anyone listening to support our bizboys too. No Mountain Too Tall and power out. That is signed listener Paul in Crownsville, Maryland. Well, Paul, thank you so very much. I always forget when we're kind of approaching the dazzling donor section of the year, Andrew, about what a racket this is for us because it basically involves these wonderful people like Paul who donate to the show, then sending us a note that says how much they like the show and like us. I mean, it's. This is. Nobody should be this lucky as we are to get these messages.

[Andrew]

I am using ChatGPT right now to write a official statement from the two biz headquarters saying that we are not a racket. We are legally non designated as a racket.

[Luke Burbank]

You and John went with S Corp. I kept saying racket.

[Andrew]

You kept going racket. I kept going.

[Luke Burbank]

I was going with Fly by Night.

[Andrew]

He wanted to call it Fly by Night Flim Flam.

[Luke Burbank]

I was going with racket. And you all decided to lawyer up, make us. Are we an S Corp?

[Andrew]

We are an S Corp. Here, let's take a quick listen to I'm going to try to needle drop this episode. 4304 TBT live in Philadelphia. Now I'm. Let's see here. Paul says I'm going to back this up by about like, I don't know, 45 seconds or something so we can lead up to it here.

[Luke Burbank]

And that makes sense to me.

[Andrew]

And also that I might have. Wait. Oh, that music that we're hearing was the end of the razzle dazzle song. Sorry, what weird timing. Back to the live show.

[Luke Burbank]

That ship sailed. Where's my bell? Yeah.

[Andrew]

Oh, that's right. This is where Genevieve hosted for me because you were Phantom of the Opera sick and you liked her more.

[Luke Burbank]

All right, Other famous Quakers, Dave Matthews of the band. Now, I was reading this fun fact during the sound check and rehearsal and yes, we had a rehearsal. Don't act surprised.

[Andrew]

We're getting close.

[Luke Burbank]

Every word I'm saying has been pre planned for months. Enough in the fedora.

[Andrew]

There it is.

[Luke Burbank]

Hey, Paul. And I was reading that. Dave Matthews.

[Andrew]

That was Paul.

[Luke Burbank]

Enough in the fedora.

[Andrew]

Enough in the fedora.

[Luke Burbank]

Nice.

[Andrew]

Nice.

[Luke Burbank]

That's a. You can get a tattoo of that.

[Andrew]

Paul.

[Luke Burbank]

Enough in the fedora. Paul, thank you so much for supporting the show. We really do appreciate you. And thanks for coming out to the. To that live show in Philly. That was really fun. You know, it's weird hearing the tape of that because I did not listen back to that episode and I. It actually sounds like we were having fun, but my head was just spinning the whole time. You know how that is one of those live shows. It's like we want it to go well. It's not our typical thing. It's kind of. I'm sort of in a fugue state the whole time. You know what I mean? Like, I don't really know how it's going because I'm just kind of tap dancing pretty hard and pretty fast. So to hear it later, like, oh, that sounds fun. That sounds like people were enjoying themselves. Yeah, it was okay. I'm sure Veeves was good.

[Andrew]

And for me, my head was spinning as well because I was under the weather. Now, I felt fine by the performance time, but I was worried I had caught Covid. It was worth the only time I had Covid. And so when I landed in Philly, I didn't know what was going on with me until I finally took my temperature and some. Some tests. So I. It's such a weird period for me. Sometimes I think about the setup for that show because I got in a day before you and John Because I had to pick up a bunch of rental equipment and set up our situation. And then I think I realized I had Covid before the setup. So we had this idea of building an audio desk for me with all of the like mixing boards and everything up in the rafters. Which was a good idea to keep me socially distanced, but was a more difficult setup. And I just remember being masked up, trying to social distance away from everybody at the friend center but not wanting to tell them that I had tested positive, but trying to respect them but then walking up. Oh, and I think now I'm just like. Now I'm just sounding like a sad sack. This is as. My ankles were swollen too and I don't think I was on any medicine for it at that point. I didn't know that I had.

[Luke Burbank]

And you were going up and down those stairs and there was a million for the setup.

[Andrew]

And I just remember going up and down and up and down and up and down and like slinging these cables up to the balcony where I'd be sitting. By the time the show started. I was feeling so much better. But I just have these flashback sometimes of the day before of setting all of that stuff up and being like, what was I doing? Sorry, that turned into a really self aggrandizing story. That was not my point. But anyway, sometimes I just look back at it.

[Luke Burbank]

I thought when you came out, when you came out of your little balcony perch out onto the upper area of the Friends center in Philadelphia, it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life.

[Andrew]

I'm wearing a mask.

[Luke Burbank]

You're wearing a Phantom of the Opera

[Andrew]

mask and a cape.

[Luke Burbank]

Glasses were fun fogging I think.

[Andrew]

Oh, they were on top of the mask. I was trying to wear the glasses

[Luke Burbank]

on top of the mask because you were, you know, there was a lot going on. I think, I think if you, if I remember you were saying that like your glasses were fogging, you kind of couldn't see. You had a cape on. I was so proud of you that you did that bit.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I didn't, I didn't.

[Luke Burbank]

Coming out like the Phantom of the Opera. It was the funniest thing I've.

[Andrew]

I.

[Luke Burbank]

Are there photos of that? If you're a listener and you got a photo of Andrew's entrance at the Philly show, would you please send it to me lukebtl.net because it just lives in my memory now. But I would love to see some photographic evidence of that.

[Andrew]

And it seems like because of this social distancing thing. You and Genevieve and John and all the listeners were down below. Now, you and Genevieve and John were backstage, whatever your backstage was. But I also remember, like, I was

[Luke Burbank]

dressed as Ben Franklin.

[Andrew]

You were dressed as Ben Franklin. But I felt like I was upstairs in my backstage area, which was just like this area where I had to keep this one door wedged open because I could have locked myself out and you would have started the show and I wouldn't have been there. Of course, I don't know how you would have, since I had to fire the audio, I think. No, John fired the audio from down below. That's right.

[Luke Burbank]

Then the screen.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I remember John coming in. I'm in, like, the nursery of, like, the church, dressed as Ben Franklin, I believe John comes in is like, what's. How do I. Your computer has locked me out. Like, how do I. What's the code to get into your computer or something?

[Andrew]

Falling asleep. But I just remember, like, you guys were downstairs waiting to, you know, go out on stage, and I'm sort of sequestered up by myself in this area that just seemed like an eternity. I had these windows, you know that meme? Every time I say this, you say, you don't know the meme. You've got to know this meme of the horse looking out the window. And it just says, soon.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, this horse window me.

[Andrew]

I'm pretty sure that when we joined public meeting, the Stubbot sent that out. Yes. The day before we launched or something. Because let me just describe the photo for people.

[Luke Burbank]

It's a horse in what looks like an office building.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Looking out the window.

[Andrew]

Actual horse. It's not a cartoon. It's an illustration. It's a photo.

[Luke Burbank]

It's like, how did this horse get in this business environment?

[Andrew]

Right, Exactly. And so I was basically that horse because I had an eye on the room. Like, I could go to this one place in my cape and kind of look out my second floor window down outside, but then through another window where the TBTL10s were gathering for the live show. And I kept on. It very much was like Phantom of the Opera. I kept on, like, sneaking through the window. I didn't want anybody to see me, but I would be looking down at the people gathering. What a. What a fun little trip.

[Luke Burbank]

It was a really. And. And it was a fun night. And also a continued lesson, which is that when. When life gives us lemons, it always seems like the lemonade is pretty good when it comes to, like, TBTL stuff. Like, I think it was arguably funnier that you were up there in your weird perch in your. In your cape than if we were just sitting, you know, doing the normal thing whenever, whenever there's a hiccup. Even the fact that we ended up at the Quaker center was because the Friends center was because we were having a heck of a time finding a venue.

[Andrew]

Yeah, that's right.

[Luke Burbank]

Everything was booked for some reason in Philly, or at least everything that was the, roughly the size that we were looking for. And finally, as a kind of a Hail Mary, we reached out to the Quakers in Philly. But that ended up being actually, I thought, like the best place we could have had it.

[Andrew]

Yeah. My only regret is the house sound was really bad. We couldn't. And the person who set it up for us was not on and just said, it'll be easy, you figure it out. So it's kind of distorted and stuff. It sounds good on the. I think I just closed that tab. But it sounded pretty good on the tape. I thought the recording was good, but I know the house sound was pretty rough.

[Luke Burbank]

And critically, my mom was able to just absolutely flex on my Aunt Kathy. Like just a full on, just John Cena just giving her the like. Because everybody was so excited to meet my mom. My mom. There was a, I believe a line of people at one point waiting for my mom's autograph. And her sister, my Aunt Kathy was also there. And so that just blew my Aunt Kathy's mind, I think, to see her sister Susie with a huge fan base.

[Andrew]

Does Kathy have any kids? You have cousins?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. And they were there. My cousin Mike.

[Andrew]

Are they starting their own Kellyanne casts now so that they can put their mom in the same position as Susie someday?

[Luke Burbank]

See, I love. Listen, I love my Aunt Kathy. Love her to death.

[Andrew]

Death.

[Luke Burbank]

But she's a little too normal. I mean, all of her great stories are just involve her being mad at my mom. My mom is still the central character in the story. Like when they were girls growing up in Philly and they had to share a bedroom and my mom would always steal my Aunt Kathy's mohair sweaters and then get BO on them. And then my Aunt Kathy would yell, sue you stinking on my sweaters. So all of my Aunt Kathy's good stories were. Were usually just about something insane my mom was doing.

[Andrew]

Uh huh. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, otherwise I don't know how that would work.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Meanwhile, my cousin Tim did write a book. My cousin Tim, who is an incredibly successful electrical engineer. Like he. He is responsible for fixing the power Grids of literal countries.

[Andrew]

Whoa.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, he flies to, like, other parts of the world to help them get their power grids working. He's just like, highly intelligent individual. And then he just, like, is also writing books on the side about that

[Andrew]

topic or related to his field.

[Luke Burbank]

Kids books.

[Andrew]

Really?

[Luke Burbank]

Or like young kind of a. Young, like a. Kind of a YA book.

[Andrew]

Oh, yeah, Like My First Electrode or anything like that.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, it's totally. It's a completely unrelated topic. But maybe. I don't know, maybe Tim will start a podcast. Mike could start a podcast about when. When Mike was. When my cousin Mike was young, he worked for the water department. And it was so funny, him spelling out his day for me. He was like, yeah, so get in at 9. And I immediately go to Wawa and I get my coffee and my whatever, and then I listen to Stern for two hours in the truck. And then I parked the truck somewhere and I hide for the next three hours. He was breaking his day down. Now, by the way, I think he's, like, in management somewhere now. I'm sure he's very productive individual. When we were like 23 and 24, he was taking me through his whole day of how he could do the least amount of work possible.

[Andrew]

I thought you were gonna say that the whole day was just stereotypical Philly. Just at first I go to Wawa.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, it did involve Wawa, and it involved listening to Stern, which was pretty. Which is a pretty Philly type of deal. But hey, Paul, thanks for allowing us to go down memory lane. That was really fun. And thank you for the donation, Maestro. I saw you were dealing with Bingo.

[Andrew]

Thank you. Bingo was. I knew you were trying to save me there. Bingo was just starting to walk on the board right as you were about to say, Maestro. And I didn't know that you had your. Your screen open that you could see me. So I was just trying to dust him out of the way as I.

[Luke Burbank]

That was very. That was very slick. You handled that with aplomb. Let's thank Angela Barrera, who's there in Corpus Christi, Texas.

[Andrew]

Hey, Angela.

[Luke Burbank]

Yippee ki yay, Mr. Falcon.

[Andrew]

Oh, yes. That is the clean. That is the TV cleaned up version of the die hard phrase.

[Luke Burbank]

Thank you, business boys, for the audio companionship for years and years. These days are rough. A chuckle, a cat story. The perfect drop. At the moment, Spread chi means a lot, truly. A few small requests. Drop rapid fire. Drop rapid fire. It's always a favorite of mine. Kwapla. What do we know about Kwapla?

[Andrew]

I Don't know. That's how Angela signs.

[Luke Burbank]

Let's check this out. That is. It's Klingon.

[Andrew]

It is Klingon.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you realize how racist that was going to be if it wasn't Klingon, Andrew? Like, I mean, is that like the idea that I would like, think a language that I don't recognize or a word I don't recognize, then I'm just assuming it's a made up alien language.

[Andrew]

I won't lie in the back of my head. When you said that, I thought you got nervous. I hope so. Just a tiny, tiny, tiny bit. And by the way, I want to apologize. I don't think you would have heard anything. There's a chance that our recording got a little bit haywire for a very split second as Bingo made his second attempt to get on my audio board. So apologies to the listeners for that. When things got really loud there for a second, if it indeed did. But good on you. And so it means success, by the way.

[Luke Burbank]

It means success. Angela. Three Corpus Christi.

[Andrew]

What a great way of signing off.

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely. And I don't know if I'm saying that right or not. It looks like Quaplaw to me. But thank you, Angela. We really appreciate it. This is when the subject of Corpus Christi comes up. Andrew. I've got my go to Corpus Christi story, which is I was dispatched there many years ago when Dick Cheney shot someone in the face.

[Andrew]

Oh yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Because the someone was convalescing at a hospital in Corpus Christi. And I spent a whole week there just eating whataburger and waiting for this guy to say something. And he never did. And then I went home because he

[Andrew]

didn't have a face.

[Luke Burbank]

Snitches get stitches, apparently.

[Andrew]

And things only went downhill for the party from there.

[Luke Burbank]

I know, right? Who knew that we'd be. Dick Cheney would be a paragon of respectability when he actually opposed the second election of Trump.

[Andrew]

I wanna let everybody know it's a total coincidence that. So yesterday on the show, I don't think our dazzling donor asked for a drop. Rapid fire situation. I think they just asked for. They just said that they really like the drops. So I said, hey, could you play a drop for them? And then we ended up doing rapid fire drops yesterday. And it's a total coincidence that this is Angela's request today because these, of course, came in a little while ago. But do you want to. Do you have some fresh ones you can offer, Angela?

[Luke Burbank]

I sure do. I'm trying to pick the right length. Length. I have these organized by their timing. So let's just do this. We're going to start with. Again, I'm trying to preview. I cannot be responsible if a weird drop comes up. Okay, everybody, but this is for our friend Angela in Corpus Christi. That's just absolute stupid.

[Andrew]

Are you going to finish that croissant? Are you sure? Okay. Everyone knows the only thing we should be ashamed of is our bodies.

[Luke Burbank]

Beautiful purple balls. Really? I'm trying to build my beef castle. Believe it or not, I'm a complete. Catch the kootra.

[Andrew]

Ma.

[Luke Burbank]

What is that? Trucks, trucks and trucktober. That dog is barking. That is not my dog.

[Andrew]

California.

[Luke Burbank]

Can somebody tell me what the hell is going on?

[Andrew]

Carol, hold my call. Classic.

[Luke Burbank]

A cat is an angel that poops in a box. Mean as your mama's forehead. I'm David Pumpkins. There you go.

[Andrew]

When I think of David Pumpkins, I really. You know, that was a cultural phenomenon that I had totally missed. Surprise, surprise, surprise. Because I missed it because I was watching too much Gomer Pyle, apparently. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Sergeant Carter, I don't know what David has Pumpkins is, but I can certainly bring out my. Not Jim Varney.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Surprise, surprise.

[Andrew]

Who is it? Is Jim Neighbors.

[Luke Burbank]

Jim Neighbors.

[Andrew]

Jim Neighbors. Of course. But. Oh, here, let me just add one last drop here.

[Luke Burbank]

Yippee ki yay, Mr. Falcon.

[Andrew]

That is for Angela.

[Luke Burbank]

Thanks, Angela. We really appreciate you.

[Andrew]

Hello, and welcome to Top Story.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, last week, or at some point in the not too distant past, I was talking about the Olympics and how it's a little hard for me to relate to some of the events because they're just things I've had no experience with. I didn't, you know, grow up figure skating or skiing with any proficiency or stuff like that. And. And I will admit that I was kind of. My schedule was out of sync with these. Those last Winter Olympics. I just wasn't, like, sitting down at night and kind of, you know, dialing them up on my TV and following the various plot lines. Except for this incredible thing involving this figure skater named Alyssa Liu, who's from Oakland and who. I mean, everybody knows who I'm talking about now. She won the gold medal, you know, for the women's figure skating. And, like, I kept hearing about, like, being like, well, after everything she's been through or whatever. And I was like, what do they. Like? They always say that, you know, for every Olympic athlete, they're trying to make some narrative. But I thought her story was so interesting and cool, actually. So her dad, do you know, you know, this Whole thing probably from listening to sports radio. Have they been going off about this?

[Andrew]

No. I haven't heard hardly any Olympic talk on sports radio, but I have been picking up some of it on social media. So I saw it when she won the gold. I saw that, like, wonderful clip of her skating and saying, that's what I'm effing talking about. And kind of like. So I saw this outpouring of love on social media, but I don't really know the backstory.

[Luke Burbank]

So her father came to the US From China. He grew up in rural China in what was described as sort of extreme poverty. So he comes to the US and then he becomes an attorney, and through I'm not sure the exact circumstances, but he ends up being a single dad. He's raising Alyssa and her siblings, I guess, sort of by himself. And she goes to take an ice skating lesson, and the teacher says, she's really good. This is when she's like, nine or something and says, she's really good. Do you want to get her lessons? And the dad's like, okay. And I guess throughout the course of her kind of young career, the dad spends between like, a half a million and a million dollars just on her ice skating, on, like, her training and. And coaches and all of this stuff. But he is apparently, like, very, very intense, as would I be if I was spending a million dollars on Addie's volleyball. I'd probably be at every practice making sure it was going okay. And he was apparently really hard on her coaches. He was pretty hard on her. But she was phenomenal at. I think she might have won, like, she might have been the US Champion when she was in her teens, which she was, like, a very young person to have won the US national championship. And then she went to the Olympics one Winter Olympics ago, and I don't know if she did particularly well. I think that the stress got to her, and basically she just decided, one day, I don't want to do this. Like, this is way too stressful. And so she quit, and her dad found out. She announced on Instagram that she was quitting ice skating, which is how he found out. And so she goes to ucla, and a couple of years go by, and then she realizes one day, wow, I really miss this. I miss ice skating. And so she calls her coaches up, and she says, I'm thinking about ice skating again, but only if I get to pick my music and my choreography and if I'm in charge of this whole thing. And they were like, okay. And so then she goes to her dad, and she's like, I love you, dad, but you are fired from being in charge of this. And apparently it really hurt his feelings, but he, you know, kind of rolled with it. And so she comes back now after two years off. Off, like, skating to her own music. She gets this, like, smile piercing, which is, like. Looks incredibly painful. I know that's like the most old man read on someone's piercing, but it.

[Andrew]

It.

[Luke Burbank]

I really wish someone would have asked her, how much did that hurt? Just because I'm curious, like, and that just seems like that would be super duper painful. But she has a piercing that kind of goes through her gums so that when she smiles, you see these two little kind of, you know, I don't know what they are. Diamonds or something. It's actually kind of a cool look, honestly. Yeah, but not one that I.

[Andrew]

There's something about her. And again, I've only seen little clips with. It's just like. I think it's because she could make anything cool, too. Like, she just has an air about

[Luke Burbank]

her, and this is a totally new thing for her. So her hair is. You know, she dyes her hair in this really kind of interesting way where it's, like, brown and then it has these sections of, I guess you'd say blonde and then brown. And she calls that her rings. Like, maybe the. I don't know. I think the brown hair is her natural hair color. So she dyes it blonde, and then it grows out, and then when the brown part grows out, then she dyes it blonde again on top of that.

[Andrew]

Oh, I see the rings of a tree. That's cool.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. And. And she's got this piercing, and she's just perpetually happy out there because she's, like, just, you know, skating literally to her own music. Also, I love that she. Addie was pointing this out to me the other night. We were texting that she skated to a Donna Summer song. MacArthur park, which is a reference to, I believe MacArthur park in Los Angeles. Just felt sort of. I don't know how cosmically, like a pushback on everything that's going on with ice and stuff. I mean, I'm reading a lot into that, but this was a cool song. And she's just. She goes into the final skate of the women's skate. And I believe she was in third place, maybe. And the thought was, hey, if she gets a medal at all, that's going to be really incredible because she's so sort of come back as her own person instead of being Totally, like, locked into the mold of what a figure skater is supposed to look like and skate. Like, she's just coming back with her hair and her piercing and her whatever. And her final performance was so incredible. And she skated with such just, like, kind of joy and like, kind of degaff energy, just not. She just didn't look even a little bit stressed out out there. Just, like, she was totally enjoying it, which later she said she was. And this all sort of lined up for her to end up actually winning the gold medal. And when she finishes this program and she knows that she has skated, like, the routine of her lifetime. And they cut to her dad in the audience clapping for her. And it made me so emotional. It was just like. Like, because I. I kind of understand the dad's perspective, too. Like, this guy comes over here, he works his ass off, he spends a million dollars on this ice skating, and then he gets told, you're not. You're not invited to be the coach of this anymore. And I could totally see a version of this where the dad, like, just like, all right, man, this. Now. This is your thing. And, you know, like, I could just see him kind of detaching from the whole thing.

[Andrew]

But.

[Luke Burbank]

But just the fact that, like, their relationship, obviously I have a big, like, father, daughter, kind of, like, trigger anything. Anything that's like dads and daughters really, obviously hits me in an emotional place. But I just. I just thought it was the coolest story. And she just seems like everything that's good about this world and her whole story and her family story and, like, the fact that her dad was there just, like, crying and clapping for her. It was just like. It really was like the kind of like they're trying to create those moments in the Olympics all the time. And usually it's probably hype that doesn't quite actually, like, measure up to the. This one shining moment they're trying to create. But this was one shining moment. This was a miracle on ice. Forget the USA Hockey team from the 1980s. Do you believe in miracles? Alyssa Liu's dad not being mad at her about firing him. That was the miracle I was looking for.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And also, I think she was speaking, like, weren't some of her and her skaters sort of, like, speaking a little bit of truth to power? I think in some pre skating press conferences and stuff.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. You had a lot of the US Athletes actually, you know, using their. Using their time to talk about the ideals of America that we're not living up to. And then, of course, you've got Trump, like, you know, yelling at them on Truth Social or whatever, which is a

[Andrew]

good look you should definitely have.

[Luke Burbank]

Criticizing U.S. athletes.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I don't know if you saw the latest one from. And I don't even know why. Like, I just. I need to stop feeding the trolls with my. With my tears.

[Luke Burbank]

But, like, like, listen, Andrew, I'll do the crying around here.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Apparently, like, Trump was also, like, sort of. I think it was like Trump made a joke with the men's hockey team. Something like. Oh, yeah. And now, because he was already. He already met with them or something, I think yesterday, Monday.

[Luke Burbank]

And, well, I saw Cash Patel apparently.

[Andrew]

Well, Cash Patel was partying in the locker room with the team after his spokespeople said that he was not in Italy for that event, that he was there for work. It was literally the taxpayers paid for him to go there and, you know, drink champagne with the hockey team. But apparently the hockey team also, I think, was meeting with Trump yesterday, I want to say. And Trump said, well, now I guess I got to meet with the women too, or something like that. And they all laugh along with them or whatever. Like, this is the President of the United States talking about gold medal winning women and disparaging them. I mean, there's no point in me even bringing it up here. There's just. And by the way, to go around. But like, that, that.

[Luke Burbank]

Sorry.

[Andrew]

So dumb. I said I'm so dumb. I meant I'm so done. But I guess I'm both.

[Luke Burbank]

That women's hockey game, that gold medal game was ridiculous.

[Andrew]

Were you watching this live?

[Luke Burbank]

No, I just. I mean, I watched it. You know, I heard that they won the gold medal and that it was crazy. And then I went back and I watched the last, like, maybe five minutes of the game and then the overtime, but, like, they were down two to one with, like, under, like, under two minutes left. I mean, that's. And they pulled their goalie. You know, that's just like, that's the absolute. I mean, that's the Hail Mary of hockey. And it worked. They got a goal to go to overtime, and then they won. I have to say, though, like, if I'm Canada, first of all, that just kind of sucks to be that close to winning and then to not win. But also it's like, listen, now, none of this is. None of this is on the U.S.

[Andrew]

yeah, but they won the World Series last year. Oh, wait. Oh, shoot.

[Luke Burbank]

None of this is like, I'm. None of this is the fault of any of the American athletes at All. But I also feel like if I was in Canada, I'd be like, are you kidding me right now?

[Andrew]

The.

[Luke Burbank]

It's like, if US lost to Russia back in the day, like, we are Russia now. We are the. I mean, if I'm in Canada, I'm like, I don't like America. America is the enemy to the south. And they just bested us at hockey. Like, it would feel extra bad to me.

[Andrew]

Yeah. But.

[Luke Burbank]

But do you know, did you hear about the probably the craziest Olympics press conference moment? It happened early on, actually. Sorry. That again, we're doing this post mortem, days after the closing ceremonies. Whatever. If you're listening to this three weeks later, it doesn't matter to you. It's all in a weird time span anyway. But did you hear about the. I don't even know what his event was, and I can't remember exactly which Scandinavian country he came from. I think he was doing a skiing event.

[Andrew]

Oh, you this asshole? Yeah, this.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh. Oh, that's okay. That's your read.

[Andrew]

I think that's the world's read on this. This guy who, like, tries to get. Who tries to apologize for being unfaithful to his girlfriend. Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't know why. I just totally stole your setup of that story. Sorry. Yeah, but no, I mean, everybody's kind of like, why would you do that to her? He didn't say. He didn't say her name. But he basically. And I think it was his post. Post game press conference.

[Luke Burbank]

I think he might have gotten like a bronze medal or something his event was.

[Andrew]

And he says, well, maybe, you know, he didn't use her name, but he said, you know, lose somebody who I'd met not all that long ago, they'd been dating for like months, I think. Right. But I was unfaithful to her. And now I'm hoping maybe I can use this platform to let her know how sorry I am or whatever. And immediately, I think the backlash was like, you're doing what to this woman right now? You're making her. When you do that to somebody, you're making them answer to a world stage. That is. So. I would break up with him again if I could.

[Luke Burbank]

Could. This is back to the. I won't go there. I won't eat that. I won't like the idea of. Of like, boundaries and stuff. That hadn't even occurred to me. I guess you're right. I guess you're right. I thought it was. I mean, it didn't work, but I guess I thought of it as being like, well, we know this guy. I think I saw it as a desperate. But not. Well, how might. How would I put this? I didn't. I didn't really see it in the terms that you're describing it as, which. Which I get. I get like, he didn't use her name, but I guess in a way it's dragging her into a conversation that she didn't ask to be a part of. So I guess that is kind of disrespectful. I saw it as a desperate act that even though it didn't work, I don't know, it was a. It was a good try or something. But I guess. I guess I'm. I was misreading it.

[Andrew]

I mean, I guess it could be this. I mean, my initial reaction when. When I saw that, which was, you know, I think commentary free was just like, oh, you gotta be me. In the same way. Like, unless you have an agreement with somebody that, you know you're gonna get married and you make some sort of huge public proposal to them, I vote. You know, I mean, since we've been working together, I always complained about that kind of stuff because you're putting in. Usually it's the woman who's being put on the spot. And maybe they're not ready to have this be a public conversation, you know, like putting. Putting yourself for the moment in front of the thought, you know, being thoughtful towards your partner and how it might impact them. But I guess I might just be reading the responses from my specific. Yeah, but I mean, it seemed universally. And she did finally, anonymously, still never gave her name. One publication was able to speak with her, I think, and she just said, like, that was just so deeply inappropriate. Like it was.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know if that's what she said.

[Andrew]

Did she not.

[Luke Burbank]

No, I think what she said was something to the effect. Unless, by the way, I didn't read the original.

[Narrator/Announcer]

The.

[Luke Burbank]

The source material. I just saw her like a pull quote. And I think she basically said something to the effect of, I'm not interested in talking about this. Or, you know, we've already established that we're not together or whatever. Like she shut it down, but I didn't remember her saying that it was inappropriate.

[Andrew]

I will, I'll. Look, I'm not saying that you're wrong, by the way, because I would just like to know, because I guess I shouldn't be making shit up. I do know that a lot of people said that it was inappropriate and I thought she said something with. I Mean, not. It wasn't long, but I thought there was something that had a little bit more of an edge.

[Luke Burbank]

It's very possible because I didn't read the original source material.

[Andrew]

I'll see if I can find it. Just. And again, not. Not because I. You're wrong about this, but just because I threw something out there that might not be true. I'd like maybe a little bit more clarification on that. So my.

[Luke Burbank]

I guess, I guess to me it was sort of like it was a. Charmingly or not charming. It was like. I guess what I saw in this was a guy who really, really, really didn't know how to fix this and thought maybe, like maybe this would fix it. And I mean, it's an insane thing to think would fix it. But it's like, I guess what I know is that he genuinely, genuinely, really, really really wanted to get back together with this person. Because that's like an embarrassing thing to admit in your Olympics press conference is that you cheated on someone and it was the dumbest thing you'd ever done. Like, that's a very embarrassing thing to admit to. And so that just tells me that he was very genuine in him his desire to mend the relationship. Now, again, it didn't work and there is the reasonable perspective that it's dragging her into something that she didn't ask to be a part of. But I guess there was something about the sheer desperation of it that kind of sort of charmed me a little bit. Have you gotten eyes on the statement

[Andrew]

was it is hard. This is the woman who wants to remain anonymous wrote to the Norwegian paper vg. It is hard to forgive, even after such a public declaration of love in front of the whole world. I have not asked to be put in this position and it is hard to be there. We have had contact and he knows my feelings about this. So I mean, I have not been asked to be put in this position and it is hard to be there. I overstated it, but that's what I was remembering. Like, she. I think that is clear that she is saying, like I have now I have somebody who's already been, let's just say victimized or, you know, like on the wrong end of something. She did not cheat, she didn't do anything wrong. But now the person that wronged her has now put her in this position where she has, you know, like, clearly she staying anonymous. But people have tracked her down. Like it became the story, like a global story, not even us a global story. And so people. I'm sure. She just was being flooded with people saying, hey, I know you're the person. Will you respond? Will you respond? Finally, she responds like she was put in a position to suddenly have to answer to stuff that she should not have to answer to. She didn't do anything wrong.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Andrew]

Here I go once again with the email. Every week I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man.

[Luke Burbank]

It's not from a female. All rightly, email or email.

[Andrew]

Yes. I'm gonna give you a choice. I have three voicemails that I'm looking at. Some of them are getting quite dusty, by the way, but they're good, so I'm saving them and they will air someday. But I'm gonna not tell you the names of these people because almost all of them, I think are folks that we recognize. Nice. I'm just going to tell you the topic and you choose the topic that you would like to hear about. Okay. They're all around the same length too. About a minute. So do you want to hear about a delivery mistake by somebody who ordered something online?

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew]

An explanation of restaurateur and why it is spelled and pronounced that way? Or somebody eating some really, really, really old food.

[Luke Burbank]

God, those are all compelling.

[Andrew]

That's why I've saved them.

[Luke Burbank]

Let's go with.

[Andrew]

With

[Luke Burbank]

old food.

[Andrew]

Old food. All right. This is from listener Peter.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Hey guys, this is Peter calling from the department of licensing district of Shoreline.

[Andrew]

Oh, by the way. So I don't know if I was hosting when you were gone or if it was just a hey dummies or whatever, but when I had to get my license renewed because I needed the official. The one you had, the real id, I went to the licensing department that's up there in Shoreline. I've been going up to Shoreline a lot lately. You know that, that one little. That shopping center area has a Chipotle Town and country grocery store, which I still haven't gone into a licensing center. And there's this giant building that is abandoned and it looks like a movie set. I asked Phyllis what it used to be. I guess it used to be a Sears. Did you used to go to a Sears up there when you were a kid?

[Luke Burbank]

I bought jeans at that Sears. When I was kidding.

[Andrew]

Was it just a Sears or was at an anchor store for a mall?

[Luke Burbank]

It was just a Sears.

[Andrew]

Just a big ass Sears. Because it's this big building with all these.

[Luke Burbank]

Across from o' Shea's restaurant.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Is o' Shea still there? I don't think on the other side of Aurora.

[Andrew]

I. Oh may, oh on the other side of Aurora. Maybe it's all the way up on 160th or 165th. I believe so anyway. So that is why Pete, this is where Peter is calling from.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Hey guys, this is Peter calling from the department of licensing district of Shoreline. And recently you were talking about Mary Lou Henner and her recall of dates. And I had an interesting date related story to tell you. The date I'm referring to is June 22nd of 2015. And Mary Lou Henner would know that that was a Monday. And she may also know a little bit of tragedy here, that that's the day that James Horner, the musical composer of both Titanic and Avatar passed away and a single fatality airplane crash. But the reason I'm reflecting on that date is because I recently made a pot of macaroni and cheese. And when I was making it I looked at the box and that is the best buy date that was marked on the box. So I made a pot of macaroni and cheese that was 3,000 about 3,850 days past its best buy date. I did make it, I did eat it. I did survive the cheese powder instead of kind of the sunny bright yellow color it had, it was a little bit more brownish and the taste was not, it was a little off. But again I did survive. So all is well, thank you, have a good day.

[Andrew]

Bye. Now I will say we have not heard from Peter since he sent us that voice memo. Yeah, so he was okay in the moment.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. Sometimes that could be kind of a depth charge, a delayed release. I'm interested in Peter kind of going through it. I mean it sounds like was he doing it more for the science experiment factor of it? Because, because if, how do I say this in a nice way? If Peter is down to his last box of Mac and cheese, I can send you some, I can send you some updated. I can send you some goodles. That's what I'm eating these days. Andrew, about goodles. No, it's just kind of a updated Mac and cheese thing. It's a new brand out there called Googles. It's supposed to be I guess a teeny bit healthier. But like I'm just imagining Peter like, like a cartoon mouse going to his cupboard and opening and there's, there's one box of Mac and cheese that's 3,000 days. That would make it like 10 years.

[Andrew]

Well he said June 2015.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. So like 10 year old box of Mac and cheese and then he's taking it on. The cheese is brown. The cheese powder is brown. He's just, like, eating it crying.

[Andrew]

I knew he was before he said it. I knew he was going to say brown like he said, you know, usually it's a bright color. And keep in mind, I don't eat this stuff, so I'm not personally familiar with it.

[Luke Burbank]

But you're not a Mac and cheese guy.

[Andrew]

I'm not a cheese guy. Yeah. And so.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, you kind of are, though. That's the thing. Occasionally, I guess I never know which.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

When it'll pop in or not.

[Andrew]

I don't think I eat any orange cheese or anything. I know that sounds weird, but. Mozzarella, Swiss world provolone, as long as it's all nice and melted. That stuff is all kind of similar, but anyway. No, I don't mess around with this. And Bingo, if you mute this board, I swear to. We're so close to the end, buddy. He's been giving me the Manson lamps. I know he wants this to be over, but anyway.

[Luke Burbank]

Manson lamps. Never heard of that.

[Andrew]

Really? I said I'm surprised I haven't said it before. That's a Genevieve saying. When somebody's giving you crazy eyes, the Manson lamps. Genevieve refers to them as Manson lamp.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I think that's from the Sopranos.

[Andrew]

Well, I think she was saying it before the Sopranos. I think it might be an expression because I guess the Sopranos was out when we were first dating. I could ask her if she grew up.

[Luke Burbank]

Manson lamps is a memorable phrase from the Sopranos. Season 2, Episode 5 House arrest, where Tony Soprano tells Richie April to stop giving him a Manson lamps look.

[Andrew]

I'll ask her if she got it from that, because, I mean, that. Is that an AI overview or somebody whoever wrote that probably thinks that that came from the Sopranos because the Sopranos used it. But it doesn't mean that it originated with the Sopranos necessarily, does it?

[Luke Burbank]

No, it does not mean it originated. Just it's something that was said on the Sopranos.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I could ask Genevieve if. Because I got the impression of something maybe she grew up with, but I could be wrong. All of that is to say Bingo wants me to get out of here. And I just KN somehow that that powder was going to be moving towards brown. I knew it wasn't getting lighter. You know what I mean?

[Luke Burbank]

Right. It's not getting more orange because the orange is like. That's just. That's total fakery. To make this thing look what we think of as, like, cheesy cheddar y cheesy. So that's going to start to. That's going to degrade the radioactive half life on that orange. But, you know, we found out it's

[Andrew]

10 years, but it's not going to fade. You know what I mean? Like, why did I know it was going to get darker and browner, not like lighter and just like, you know, less colorized. Things just love to go brown. Ketchup.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Andrew]

You know, I had this little collector's bottle of ketchup. It wasn't a collector's bottle. I just collected it. It was a little mini ketchup bottle, glass bottle that I got when I was a kid and I thought it was so cute, I kept it on my dresser. I mean, I kept it for years and years and years. And when I finally left for college, I realized, oh, this ketchup is straight up brown inside this bottle now. And I think I finally threw it away.

[Luke Burbank]

Also happens to mustard. I was at the Mustard. The Mustard Museum in Wisconsin, and a lot of the old mustard could become very, very brown.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I had. You know what I had for lunch yesterday was a. A sandwich. Luke. And I put your favorite mustard on it. I introduced you to some Coleman's English mustard at one of our TBT elephants. I don't know. Are you still buying that stuff? I highly recommend.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, here's the thing. I got a crapload of mustard at the mustard Museum. I bought it in the gift shop and then they gave me a bunch of. Of mustard that they had special CBS Sunday morning labels made for. So I'm just trying to dig out from. I've got a whole thing of Gorman Thomas.

[Andrew]

I was storming Gorman's mustard say that.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm trying to work my way through

[Andrew]

more and more Gorman Thomas references. Is it just because now I know who he is. I recognize the references are people like kind of always low key mentioning him in one way or another to get a laugh or a smile.

[Luke Burbank]

It is a go to, I think in and certainly in like me and Stu Bots and probably maybe Der's lexicon a little bit old. GT Gorman Thomas.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I saw somebody like made a fake baseball card for him or something. I have a real baseball card. Was it. I don't want to. I don't. I don't want to misrepresent who send it to me. I think it was Nigel maybe or. Or Levi sent me a Gorman Thomas baseball card which you can just barely see over my shoulder. It's right up there somewhere. But anyway I think I've run out of things to say, Luke.

[Luke Burbank]

I think the show is turning a little brown, and I think.

[Andrew]

You know what? I think I'm responsible for that. My apologies.

[Luke Burbank]

No, not at all. It's been a fun one. But. But aren't they all. All right, that is going to do it for today's show, but we will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio. I will be checking in from Kansas. Actually, I'll be in the Missouri side of Kansas, so. Kansas City, Mo.

[Andrew]

O. Yeah. And did you hear now the. The Royals just moved back to the Kansas side of Kansas. Did you hear this?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, they did. I heard that they were moving to Hammond, Indiana. Everybody's moving to Hammond.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I wrote to some of our. Some of our friends who root for the Royals. I thought that was going to bum them out, but it seems everybody's pretty cool with it, so. Good for them.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I'll get some eyes on that tomorrow and I'll report back. Hey, thanks for listening, everybody. We will be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio. In the meantime, have a. Have a great Tuesday. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no mountain too tall.

[Andrew]

And good luck to all. Power out.