#4746 Noise Cancelling Ears

Summary

TBTL #4746 “Noise Cancelling Ears”

Date: June 10, 2026
Hosts: Luke Burbank & Andrew Walsh
Theme: From presidential boos at Madison Square Garden to Slavic family planning myths and the art of booing in baseball, Luke and Andrew meander through the day’s oddities with their trademark mix of nostalgia, nerdery, and self-deprecating wit.

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Episode Overview

This episode sees the TBTL hosts riffing on recent news, deep-diving into old political scandals, fielding listener voicemails about Soviet thermostats and Morse code, and nerding out over obscure music samples. The show navigates from the politics of Trump’s notorious New York Knicks appearance (and his erstwhile quest for Manhattan approval) to the cultural peculiarities of country music on satellite radio. Along the way, listeners get a rich tastes of the hosts’ penchant for playful digression, music trivia, and listener engagement.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Medical Cold Open & Show Banter

• Timestamps: 00:00–04:10
• Andrew opens with a “doctor sketch” about the boundaries of medical questions—a light-hearted digression about privacy, bathroom habits, and the awkwardness of discussing “going to the bathroom” in a clinical setting.
• The hosts slip instantly into riff mode, introducing running jokes early ("Could you call me Scooter from now on?” - Andrew, 03:39), setting up their typical freewheeling dynamic.

2. Scooter Libby Scandal Reminiscing

• Timestamps: 05:02–07:22
• Andrew sheepishly admits he barely remembered the details of the Scooter Libby/Valerie Plame affair, prompting Luke to summarize the 2000s-era scandal (Bush, Cheney, CIA leaks, commuted sentence, and eventual Trump pardon).

  “He was convicted of lying to investigators… President George W. Bush commuted Libby’s sentence. And in 2018, President Donald Trump pardoned him.” – Luke, 06:53

3. Knicks Game, Booing Trump, & “Noise Cancelling Ears”

• Timestamps: 07:28–17:58
• The recent Knicks game and Donald Trump’s notorious Jumbotron moment at Madison Square Garden become a jumping-off point to discuss:
  • Why Trump seeks Manhattan approval but fails to get it.
  • The politics of billionaire James Dolan (Knicks/MSG owner) and his comments about “not being political.”
  • How Dolan uses facial recognition at MSG to ban attorneys linked to lawsuits.
• Notable moments:

  “There are just so few times where [Trump] comes in contact with any legitimate negative feedback because he’s so ensconced in this bubble of toadies and lackeys.” – Luke, 10:13 “Is there a chance that he’s wearing noise cancelling ears that just sum out any negative feedback?” – Andrew, 08:36

• Listeners/jokesters encourage strategic, low register booing so it can't be spun as cheers:

  “If you’re going to Madison Square Garden tonight, just keep it low. Make it very low so it’s unmistakable.” – Luke, 17:49

4. Art of Booing (Sports & Personal Anecdotes)

• Timestamps: 18:16–21:39
• The hosts wax poetic about the joys of booing in sports, especially in baseball:
  • Andrew cherishes Mariners fans’ persistent booing of former Astros over the cheating scandal.
  • Luke recounts being admonished as a child for yelling “kill the ump” at a game:

  “What I learned was ‘kill the ump’ was too negative.” – Luke, 21:06

5. Podcasting Meta & Upcoming Office Hours Visit

• Timestamps: 21:39–28:20
• Luke shares his excitement about visiting the set of Tim Heidecker’s Office Hours Live in LA, including nerves about meeting video remix artist Vic Berger.
• Andrew nerds out over Tim Heidecker’s Alex Jones impressions, playing a favorite soundbite:

  “I am confirming now I am wearing his skin. I’ve been wearing his skin for about two weeks. It is tough skin. It is Texas skin.” – Tim Heidecker (impersonating Alex Jones), 25:15

6. Listener Voicemails Segment

• Timestamps: 28:58–55:20

a. Russian Draft-phobia & Cold Remedies

• Voicemail from Rachel in Maine (31:53–33:47)
  • Rachel recounts her experiences with Slavic elders’ obsession with keeping windows closed and the belief that sitting on cold stone makes women infertile.
  • Andrew and Luke riff on the “catching cold from drafts” myth, confirming with Mayo Clinic search that temperature alone won’t make you sick, though it can affect immune response.

b. Mission Impossible Theme = Morse Code

• Voicemail from Melisande (36:38–37:37)
  • Trivia: The “MI” in the famous theme mimics Morse code for M (dash-dash) and I (dot-dot).

  “It’s based on Morse code for M and I… Isn’t it freaking cool?” – Melisande, 36:38

c. Music Trivia – David McCallum’s Jazz Sampled by Dr. Dre

• Luke explains that actor David McCallum (“Man from U.N.C.L.E.”, later “NCIS”) released a jazz tune, “The Edge,” that became the instrumental bed for Dr. Dre’s iconic “The Next Episode.”
  • They play and marvel at both versions.

d. Satellite Radio & Modern Country Music

• The hosts analyze the ubiquity (and mediocrity) of country channels on satellite radio, speculating it’s partly due to truck drivers and the genre’s easy-going appeal.

  “Modern country music asks so little of you as the listener.” – Luke, 46:46

• Quick profile of (and moral disgust at) ultra-popular but controversial Morgan Wallen:

  “He seems like an all around awful human being, but because he’s wildly popular, there seem to be no consequences for him.” – Luke, 52:12

e. Unclaimed Foreign Bank Money

• Voicemail from John Sklaroff (53:16–54:41)
  • Story of a friend who accidentally left a few hundred bucks in an Australian bank for 20 years, only to return to find it had grown to over $6,000 AUD thanks to high interest.

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Notable Quotes

• Luke (re: Trump and Manhattan):
  “He wants to be accepted in a certain kind of New York culture where he will never be accepted for all of the wealth that he has now…” (11:48)

• Andrew (on booing in sports):
  “I gotta admit, I like booing. I like booing too much.” (18:16)

• Rachel in Maine (voicemail):
  “There’s an idea among older Slavic women… that if you have a window open or there’s a draft you can catch a cold… or if you’re sitting on cold stone you can become infertile.” (32:41)

• Melisande (voicemail):
  “You know the song from Mission Impossible, right? It’s based on Morse code for M and I…” (36:38)

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Memorable Moments

• Andrew describes tactical booing at sports events as “just enjoying the opportunity to boo in a formalized setting.” (19:48)
• Luke’s childhood story of getting scolded for rabid heckling at a Mariners game (21:06)
• Entire goofy, self-deprecating sequence about Instagram anxiety when followed by Vic Berger, capped with:

  “Now it’s just a slow motion thing of me jogging to the Big Thief song Los Angeles while I’m low-fiving some of those robotic coolers on Sunset…” – Luke, 27:06

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Timestamps of Importance

• Trump at MSG / Booing: 07:28–17:58
• Art of Booing in Sports: 18:16–21:39
• Office Hours Live Excitement: 21:39–28:20
• Listener Voicemail (Slavic cold weather myths): 31:53–33:47
• Music Nerd-Out: Mission Impossible and David McCallum’s “The Edge”: 36:38–43:04
• Modern Country Music & Satellite Radio: 44:34–52:24
• Foreign Bank Account Windfall: 53:16–54:41

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Episode Tone & Style

• Comedic, self-effacing, casually nerdy, and tangential.
• Heavy on playful banter, quick asides, and in-jokes (“call me Scooter,” “noise cancelling ears,” Instagram anxiety).
• Empathetic and inclusive to listeners (lots of voicemail engagement and on-air listener praise).

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For Newcomers & Fans Alike:

This episode is classic TBTL: essentially a meandering, affectionate chat between two long-time friends, heavy on offbeat humor, music trivia, and oddball listener stories. If you aren’t afraid of tangents, you’ll learn why people boo, how to sneak into Bono gigs with facial recognition on high alert, and exactly how “MI” in Mission Impossible is more literal than you imagined.

Power out!

Transcript

[Doctor]

Let me just ask you a couple other questions. Are you experiencing any dizziness? No. Any shortness of breath? No. Aches and pains anywhere else? No. You go to the bathroom a lot? I don't see how that's relevant, really. Am I going to the bathroom a lot?

[Andrew Walsh]

What?

[Doctor]

You're urinating a lot. What does that have to do with my ear? This is a standard medical question. It's all I know. But I really don't think it's relevant how often I go to the bathroom. In all due respect, I think I'm the one to tell you if it's relevant or not. And it is. It's kind of private, and I really don't think so. How is it private? I'm asking private how often I go to the bathroom. It's kind of a private thing. But I'm not some strange. We're not on a bus. I'm a doctor. I'm normal. Let's just say that three times a day. Four times a day. Do we have to get into a specific number? Do we have to get a number attached to it? Yeah, it's science. However often people are supposed to go, I go unless I drink a lot of water. And, you know, sometimes I'll drink a lot of water and I'll go a lot, which I have been doing lately. So maybe lately I've been going more often than. Than I normally would. Great. But it's good for you to drink water. That's good. That's a good. That's all I wanted to hear. Okay. That's a good thing, drinking water. Sure, sure. Okay, let's move on, please. How's your stool?

[Andrew Walsh]

Tbtl.

[Luke Burbank]

Your mouth might be saying, hey, we cool. But your eyes are like, no, we not.

[Doctor]

Nice to meet you.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, it's not.

[Luke Burbank]

It's all good.

[Andrew Walsh]

Snowless.

[Luke Burbank]

Expect to feel several bone tremors and be perceived by all around you to be a disgrace.

[Doctor]

This is about respect.

[Luke Burbank]

This is about personal space.

[Doctor]

This is about the violation.

[Luke Burbank]

Let's get to the end.

[Doctor]

Got it.

[Luke Burbank]

Here's the long and short of it.

[Doctor]

Someone has been touching my karaoke machine.

[Luke Burbank]

Let me put it in plain English. I don't dance to Dido. Dude, I know there was a lot of Ds in there before you said anything. All right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Wednesday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is so boring and forever taking.

[Luke Burbank]

My name's Luke Burbank. I am your host. There ain't nothing like soup coming to you. From the Madrona Hill studio, perched high above the mighty Columbia, where we appear to be settling into some nicer early summer weather. I don't know if it's technically summer or not on June 10, but you know what I mean. It's going to be a nice day and it's going to be a nice show because we're rolling into episode 4746 in a collector series. Let the fun begin. I'm actually going to be watching another show get recorded today, the Office Hours live show in Los Angeles. And be honest with you, pretty excited about it. I'm so excited about this show just to see how they do it, to see, you know, how the other half lives. To see. I don't know if I've been around the modern era of podcasting in a while. I mean, outside of this program. So that'll be exciting. Also, we're gonna get through some voicemails today. They've been. They've been stacking up and we want to play them because people were nice enough to call that call us and leave a message. And so we'll.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm trying to use the phone.

[Luke Burbank]

We'll tune into a couple of email messages and of course, we'll say hello to this guy. Longest running cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. One thing, though, that he has been

[Andrew Walsh]

dealing with, his naivety will be his undoing, as it will be for each of us in turn.

[Luke Burbank]

He's Andrew Walsh, and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Andrew Walsh]

Jeez, what a rude way to introduce me. Luke, I'm supposed to be at my best after you use a drop like that to introduce me.

[Luke Burbank]

I just want to be very clear about how I feel about your job

[Andrew Walsh]

performance for the listeners. For the listeners who don't know, that was another drop that I picked out for myself. It feels weird. I was just. I know that you're in a little bit of a hurry picking some drops. I'm like, how about this one for me? Which. It makes me laugh. I like to send you the ones that neg me a little bit more. But it does. Now that I'm sort of saying it, I realize it feels a little bit like giving yourself a nickname. Maybe I shouldn't pick my own drops anymore. Also, could you call me Scooter from now on?

[Luke Burbank]

Absolutely. Did you recently meet a scooter? Did you meet someone?

[Andrew Walsh]

I've never met a Scooter I don't like? No, I don't know. I just Think it's a good nickname.

[Luke Burbank]

It is a cool nickname.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I used to fill in on Como Radio occasionally for a guy whose name was Scoot.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah, Scoot's good too, because he did like the.

[Luke Burbank]

I feel like it was the like, maybe like 10am to noon show on Como AM 1000. And I was a producer on like the morning show on kvi. And I was doing. Occasionally I was doing the Luke Burbank show on the weekends. But then sometimes they'd say, hey, can you fill in for Scoot? And I was so honored because I was getting outside of the bubble of conservative talk radio and getting to host just general interest talk radio on komo.

[Andrew Walsh]

The thing is, though, those are big

[Luke Burbank]

Scoots to fill boot Scoot and Boogie.

[Andrew Walsh]

What? What? Where do things end up with Scooter Libby? Do we even want to get into this? Because there's Scoot Libby, of course.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, I see you've also seen the emails.

[John Sklaroff]

You've been.

[Andrew Walsh]

You've been so scared to address this issue. But I just sort of feel like I've been pushing you for a long time to get into Scuba Libby talk. No, the problem is, and this is really embarrassing, I kind of can't remember what the issue with Scooter Libby was. I remember that he was a See a Chaney guy or something like that. It was during the Chief of Staff

[Luke Burbank]

Cheney, when Cheney was vice president. And I feel like he got in trouble for something. He resigned. I'm on Wikipedia now. He resigned from all three government positions after he was indicted on five counts by a federal grand jury concerning the investigation of the leak of the COVID identity of the CIA officer Valerie Plain. How's that?

[Andrew Walsh]

Right? Oh, my God.

[Luke Burbank]

That for old blast from the past.

[Andrew Walsh]

The Plain Alive podcast is one of my favorite podcasts. That is. That's. That is right. It was because they sort of. They leaked her name in a vindictive way. Right. And that. That was sort of the idea behind it. And so he was tied up in all of that. Yeah. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Valerie Plaim is an American writer, spy novelist, and former CIA agency officer. I'm surprised podcaster isn't in there. Andrew, if I'm being quite honest with you, who claims identity as a CIA officer was leaked to and subsequently published by Robert Novak of the Washington Post. Wasn't he. Was Robert Novak part of the. Was he on the McLaughlin Group?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I don't know. Bob Novak? Oh, I have no idea.

[Luke Burbank]

One of those. He was. It was like Jack Jermond, Bob Novak.

[Andrew Walsh]

And does look familiar?

[Luke Burbank]

I think he was, I think he was one of those. He was like a, maybe a two sort of a conservative journalist type of guy or something. In the aftermath of the scandal, Richard Armitage was identified as one source of the information, as was Scooter Libby, chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, who was convicted of lying to investigators. After a failed appeal, President George W. Bush commuted Libby's sentence. And in 2018, President Donald Trump pardoned him.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, good.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. So fantastic.

[Andrew Walsh]

So anyway, we got that out of the way. Finally we broke our silence on the Scooter Libby scandal. Have I seen what you imagine if

[Luke Burbank]

somebody had that on their bingo card today, Andrew? Their bingo card just said Valerie Pl. Discourse. And they, and that's what they needed. They just, they put a line through it and they just won.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah. Did I cut you off? Were you going to ask me if I had seen something? Maybe you don't.

[Luke Burbank]

I was, I, you know, it's the politics of the moment just remain so deeply depressing on every level. I think I was going to reference something or other about the current state of affairs that has me bummed out.

[Andrew Walsh]

I do.

[Luke Burbank]

I didn't want the Knicks to lose the other day, but I did like that Donald Trump got booed vociferously.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

But then of course, he didn't admit to it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

It was mostly cheers.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Which, which nobody asked him, by the way. The fact that he volunteered that somebody said, how do you. Are you talking about? He was like on a tarmac or something. And they said, yeah, that was where they were asked. Yeah, they said, how do you feel about the response? And they didn't say, well, how do you feel about the entire city booing you? Essentially they just said, how do you feel about the response? And the fact that he said, oh, it's mostly cheers or whatever is just very clear that. Because I was, I was wondering if he is such a megalomaniac that he literally doesn't even know. Like I was wondering, is there a

[Luke Burbank]

chance that he, he's wearing noise canceling ears that just sum out any negative feedback? I mean, they, what they did. And I know this is going, this is going back a little bit to Monday night for the big Knicks game. But like they, they did this thing where they cut to him during the national anthem. So it was kind of a, that was a. And by the way, did you know he was in. He was invited by James Dolan?

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I didn't know how he ended up there, but yeah, invited by James Dolan of course. Of course. And so, yeah, they put him on the. Not just for the broadcast or not, I don't think for the broadcast. All. They put him on the Jumbotron and then the.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, he was on the broadcast, too, during this time, because I was watching it on television.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I thought they just did a shot of the Jumbotron on tv. I didn't know that they actually just put.

[Luke Burbank]

It was a shot of him. And. And. But they did it during the national anthem. And then the thing is, you could just hear everyone booing, but there's a guy singing the national anthem really loud, so you were not getting the booing in the clear. But what I read accounts of later were people that were in Madison Square Garden said that the booing was louder for Donald Trump than for the San Antonio Spurs.

[Andrew Walsh]

So did you hear any of that? Because I did hear. It was funny how, like, Blue sky was just, can't wait to hear the boos tonight. That's how it got on my radar. People were looking forward to the booze. And then I saw the. Then the abc. I feel like it was abc, but I could be wrong about that. Whatever the broadcast was, it was an ABC broadcast. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I guess that sounds like booze, but whatever. And then. And then I started to see people putting up their cell phone footage. And then the boos were much more prominent in the cell phone footage because of the way the microphones are placed and what have you.

[Luke Burbank]

There are just so few times where he comes in contact with any legitimate negative feedback because he's so ensconced in this bubble of toadies and lackeys and, yes, people that like. And if he goes to something, it's like a UFC match or something. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's so rare that he dares to wade into the depths of midtown Manhattan. I think one of the great, sort of, one of the great, like, misunderstandings of Donald Trump as a person is that he's a New Yorker, he's from Queens. And I don't say this to be in any way derogatory about the great borough of Queens, but Donald Trump's life has really, in a large way, been defined by him being this guy from Queens who had a lot of money but not a lot of taste, who spent a lot of money and a lot of time trying to establish himself as a Manhattan person, but was never really accepted by the people of Manhattan because they tend to be more progressive and more erudite. You know, not all of them, but a lot of them. And so it's like, the idea that he would come into, like, I just knew that there might not be more hostile territory than him, to him, than Madison Square Garden during a Knicks game, which is pretty funny, considering there's buildings up and down Manhattan with his stupid name on them, you know, and yet he is somehow, he would have been much better off going to a Nashville Predators game or something. Like, this is the place that he wants to be. It's why he has that weird relationship with the New York Times where he's constantly saying they're lying and calling them the failing New York Times. But he's also. If somebody from the New York Times calls him, he will immediately set aside four hours to talk to them.

[Andrew Walsh]

He's also just texting them, you up 100%.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, because he wants to be accepted in a certain kind of New York culture where he will never be accepted for all of the wealth that he has now, you know, managed to accumulate through all kinds of nefarious schemes and systems. The fact that he's so much more wealthy after being president than he was before being president is just yet another thing to sort of, I guess, mourn about him in this country. But all that is to say, I was also very excited to see him get booed, and I was kind of mad that they. I mean, I was wondering how Madison Square Garden was going to handle it, because, again, they work for James Dolan. That's who invited Trump to the thing. And Dolan, by the way, said the most. Not only the most Dolan thing, but also the most. You know, when you talk to somebody and they're like, I don't even care about politics. I think it's all a bunch of crap. And then what emerges throughout the conversation is they voted for Trump three times.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Nobody. I've never had somebody say, I don't care about politics. I think it's all a bunch of bs and then I find out they voted for Kamala.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right. It has never been how they care deeply about their community.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah. No. It is always a thing that somebody says who later will admit that they tend to think the vaccines are giving everyone autism and they vote in lockstep and support everything Donald Trump does. But they're not political. They think politics is a bunch of crap. That's always how that statement ends. And Dolan said something like, you know, he's like, listen, I don't agree with everything Trump does, but I don't understand people being so down on him. He's the President. That's like hoping your milkman brings you spoiled milk. How are you hoping the President isn't successful? And it's like, my guy, you are so missing the point. You are so. I promise you, if Trump started doing good stuff in this country, I would be the first person to be like, wow, he did a good thing. That's what I'm rooting for, the milk to not be spoiled when it shows up at my house.

[Andrew Walsh]

You root against him because the idea of him being successful means he's successful in his terror, frankly, in his attempt to make other people who aren't white men to make their lives worse. And then he's installed all these just in some cases, potentially even worse people below him who are doing that. It's, it's.

[Luke Burbank]

So I'm rooting for him to do good stuff. I would love him to shock me with doing a bunch of good stuff. Like that would be awesome.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did you see that Dolan also said that a lot of the people were saying boo. Urns.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, Dolan was saying boo. I was saying boo. Literally a meme I sent. Becca, did you see one of our, one of the tens of listeners on the subject of Madison Square Garden's whole like reign of, of if you will say, if you might say, terror of banning people using facial recognition technology, because we were talking about the other day was they have all this facial recognition recognition technology at Madison Square Garden that, that scans your face when you come in. And if you are a person who is an attorney who works at a law firm that is involved in, in a legal dispute with James Dolan, the owner of the Knicks and, or Madison Square Garden, they'll come get you and not allow you to come in to watch the game. Even if you're not like, if you just work there, you're not even a person who's like bringing the lawsuit. You don't own the law firm, as

[Andrew Walsh]

it were, or whatever.

[Luke Burbank]

You're just. Your picture is associated with the website of the law firm and they've been able to go scrape that information. Somebody, it's our friend Alicia. Alicia who said. Yeah. That she tried to go or was going to the Beacon Theater in New York, which I guess James Dolan also owns, and they were going to see Bono's one man show, Surrender. She was going with her friend, her best friend, Angie.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wait, I thought I was her best friend.

[Luke Burbank]

It's a tough way for you to find.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead. But wow.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, so Angie is an Attorney who was on Dolan's Do Not Fly list at the time. So this picture is incredible. It really is. Her friend is, you know, wearing a raincoat with the hood cinched around the face and looks like a mask. I mean, I don't know if it's N95 or not, but like a mask. And there is the tiniest, teeniest bit of Angie's eyes that are showing. This was all just to get in to see Bono for a ticket that they paid good money for. She said. We used the same tactic at the Sphere twice because it's another thing this Dolan guy owns that's just incredible.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yank somebody out of line and say, hey, you work for this law firm that I don't like because I had some litigation.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm not political, though, Andrew. I don't understand why people are so political.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't understand. I love this photo, too. I mean, you're describing her friend, but the full photo is a group photo of about 12 people with Alyssia in the middle. My best friend. And then, you know, it's a big group, but everybody is just like, I'm smiling and there's one person who looks very undercover, like, big mask, which, you know, again, like, people need to wear masks and stuff, and. But then. But then like a kind of a puffy coat with the hood pulled all the way up, like you say. So I love seeing it in this group photo. I'm glad that they captured that moment, but I.

[Luke Burbank]

Again, I was. I was. I was hoping, but I knew it wasn't going to happen, that the msg, you know, Madison Square Garden crew, the camera crew, whoever's in charge of that, would just cut to Trump, like, during a quiet moment of the game. Because that would have been. It would have been. That might have brought down Madison Square Garden, the. The. The loudness of the booze. But instead, because again, they work for James Dolan, they. They did it at a time where it was going to be impossible to get a absolutely clear audio sort of recording of really how loud it was because again, someone's singing and the Rockets red glare at the top of their lungs.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right, exactly. And also it. It also has that kind of icky feeling of booing during the national anthem.

[Luke Burbank]

Right. It was a very intentional way to try to keep it at bay. I saw people online who were basically coaching people on how to boo. They were like, it needs to be really deep.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, that's smart. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Because it can get like. It can if you jeer. Someone jeering can get up into a higher register. That sounds like cheering. There's a reason those words sound similar.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yep.

[Luke Burbank]

And so this person was like on TikTok being like, if you're going to Madison Square Garden tonight, just keep it low, low, very low. Make it very low so it's unmistakable. Because if you start getting up into Jeer registry, then, well, somebody could later on say it was mostly cheering, even though we all knew it wasn't.

[Andrew Walsh]

I got to admit, I like booing. I like booing too much. Like the.

[Luke Burbank]

That's your baseball fandom, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

I. I guess so. Like, I mean, when, you know, I. I've always been proud of Mariners fans of not letting the. The Astros forget the cheating scandal. Even as me too, as that team. You know, eventually.

[Luke Burbank]

George Washington across.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. You know, like I'm trying to think was. I'm trying to think of Alonzo. Was he on that team? Am I confusing my. Was Peter. No. Pete Alonso was Never met. Yeah, yeah, sorry. But I don't know, Altuve.

[Luke Burbank]

I might be like the last.

[Andrew Walsh]

The last man standing team. Yeah, exactly. But there are still like a lot of players who were on that team who now play for other teams and when they come to Seattle, they still get booed or whatever. I really like that. And also even the throw to first, like by the pitcher to kind of keep the runner at first, like the home team yelled at. Yeah. Everybody boos. And you know who did not like that was, oh, geez. How am I forgetting our now Yankees play by Sims? Dave Sims. Yeah, our former Seattle Mariners game announcer, color man, or play by play caller, depending on his role that day. He would always say like, I don't, I don't know when this started, when they started booing the throw to first, but I swear I've gone back and watched. Like, he was always like a little like finger waggy about fans booing this move and you do some delivery for

[Luke Burbank]

the truck to the airport.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I gotta say, that's something that Genevieve, she and Dave Sims are in lock step on this one because she's like, oh yeah. Boo a guy for doing his job. The pitcher throwing the ball over. Yeah, yeah, like, oh yeah, you're booing him. Do you boo your own pitcher when he does? I'm like, no. Just enjoy the opportunity to boo in a formalized setting.

[Luke Burbank]

Did I ever tell you about getting admonished by Walt Burbank at a Mariners game when I was probably like eight and I yelled, kill the ump.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wow, that escalated quickly. I was.

[Luke Burbank]

Come on.

[Andrew Walsh]

It wasn't Come on, Blue.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I didn't. Yeah, it was one of those things where I, you know, I was very young also. There's probably like seven people at the game. You know, what it was. I didn't know really what. I didn't understand how people were at baseball because it might have even been the first one I was ever at. In other words, how much yelling do you do? When do you yell boo? Or when are you excited? I mean, I knew when you're excited, like if the Mariners hit a home run. But I remember it being one of those things where I was like, it's almost just like, I'm a baby deer, I'm Bambi and I'm taking steps. I'm trying to learn in the world. What do you do at a baseball game? When do you yell? How negative can you go? And what I learned was kill the ump was too negative.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, the fact that you were holding like a torch and a pitchfork, by the way, really quick thing. I don't know. I don't think that you would have noticed my lighting change in here, but I think we're having some power issues here. Uh oh, my lights flickered really briefly. Internet has stayed on, which is, boy, talk about an improvement from the old days. But one of my ring lights has gone totally out. And that usually happens when the power flickers. The ring light doesn't know to turn it on itself back on. But it must have been a very, very brief one because everything is still up and running. My other lights seem to be fine, but that was a little bit shocking. I don't know what's going on over here.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, well, fingers crossed. And, and yeah, we, we're doing some funky kind of time shifting recording stuff because as this is, as this recording is hitting the airwaves and you all are listening to it, I'm actually in LA going out to what I think is actually Tim Heidecker's real house.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, is that where they record that? I didn't know.

[Luke Burbank]

That's a little bit unclear as of this moment, as of our recording time. But it is, I think it's. I think there's like maybe like a guest. There's like a kind of probably, probably not unlike this, but a lot nicer. Where I think he might have like a ADU or something where they, where they, they film Office Hours live the show. I got a follow the other day from Vic Berger.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, nice.

[Luke Burbank]

Just out of the blue. So I was like, well, this is interesting. Like clearly somebody has told the staff of an Office Hours Live, for people that don't know is this. I guess it's a video podcast. I guess it's a kind of a online TV show with. Hosted by Tim Heidecker. And it's got this guy Vic Berger, who I really like, who does these hilarious videos and sound effects. It's got this guy DJ Doug Pound. It's also a really funny dude. And then they have guests come through, you know, Kurt Vile or actors, actresses, comedians, musicians. And I'm interviewing Tim Heidecker about actually the fact that he's going to be like the creative director of Infowars.com because the onion is going to be eventually taking that over from Alex Jones because he lost it in these various lawsuits. But before that, they're going to let me actually watch Office Hours Live. I'm just be taped and I'm just excited to be a fly on the wall on that thing. I've watched it so many times. I watched so many clips of it. And we've been talking a lot, you and I, about just kind of like the state of podcasting and how everything's a video now and everything. So I'm just very. I'm as excited to watch this as I've like, I'm more excited to watch this than I was to watch the Colbert show when I was in New York interviewing Depeche Mode backstage. So, yeah, so that's. I'm.

[Doctor]

That.

[Luke Burbank]

I'll have a full report tomorrow on how that went. Mostly, I'm going to try to maintain my chill, which is also not like, okay, next week I'm interviewing the singer Keith Urban. I'm not worried about keeping my chill. My chill will be firmly in place. I mean, Keith Urban is a pretty famous musician. Seems like a sweet guy. That is not one where I'm like, oh, my God, don't be starstruck. Don't be starstruck. I am pretty nervous about talking to Vic Berger.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, sure. But also. But also, you're not a fan either. I mean, that's a huge part. I do. I didn't know that. I was just thinking about him the other day and I don't know why, but you gotta ask him about the name, right? Like, he appeals mostly to what you would guess like a rural America, or I'm assuming.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, you're talking about Keith Urban. I thought you're talking about.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, that would be interesting too. I mean, he appeals more to a hot dog America. So the fact that his last name was Burger is also ironic. But you really gotta ask him you gotta ask Keith Urban about his last name and how it was probably a barrier for him as he tried to break through into more rural communities. Hey, going back to this Tim Heidecker thing, can we just play? I think I found it, and I know that you've seen this, and I watched it a bunch. Veeves and I were kind of a quasi. She. Her more than me, were obsessed with Tim Heidecker doing his Alex Jones impression in these videos. I can't remember. I think it's safe for our audience. Right? Can I play a little bit of this? Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't think it's sexual. It's just crazy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. This is one of those. Oh, why do all Meta products do this?

[Luke Burbank]

Office hours Live.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, I knew it was going to do it. It's like you unmute it and then you hit play and it mutes itself again. So you have to rush over to the other thing. So let's try this unmute. Okay, here.

[Tim Heidecker]

A lot of turmoil the past couple days on our road to total victory. We have just won a major battle, folks. Alex and his gang of liars and scoundrels have been cast out into the street. They have lost Infowars, Infowars.com and their various platforms. They have been cast out. Ladies and gentlemen, I am confirming now I am wearing his skin. I've been wearing his skin now for about two weeks. It is tough skin. It is Texas skin. It's leathery. And Old Spice is the main fragrance, as well as various alcoholic beverages. And this is just human blood.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'm sorry. He's taking a drink from a wine glass that looks like blood.

[Tim Heidecker]

It's thick.

[Andrew Walsh]

He just yells, it's thick.

[Luke Burbank]

It kills me every time.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's thick. Oh, my.

[Luke Burbank]

I may have to ask him. I'll ask Tim, like, what is the effect on his vocal cords of doing.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's what I was about to say to you. Doesn't just listening to, like, 35 seconds of that make your own throat hurt? I was going to say that, yes.

[Luke Burbank]

He's gonna have to, like, consult a vocal coach for how to do that without damaging his. His vocal cords permanently. But. But yeah, I. It's. It's weird. The things that. I guess it's not that weird. I guess it's. It's not that surprising that these guys who do this thing that I'm an admirer of, even though I've said also on the show a bunch of times, I'm not even sure if I totally get what's happening with Office Hours live all the time. If it's a real show, if it's a parody, if he's being himself. But I still look up to these guys a lot. And it's funny that just the other day, getting a follow on Instagram from this guy named Vic Berger just made me so excited. And then they make you go, look,

[Andrew Walsh]

oh, sorry, I just cut you off to say exactly what you're. So what's the last thing that you've posted on Instagram? How long ago was it and did you do a little bit of like, oh, what is Vic Burger? Think of me as I go through my old 100%.

[Luke Burbank]

I went in, I. I stopped sharing a CBS story that I thought was pretty mid. That I did. Not even mid. It just was like, it just. It was. If I watched that and I'm on the first impression of me, I'd be like, this guy's a pretty standard television reporter and that's not what I want my vibe to be. So I got. So now it's just a slow motion thing of me jogging to the Big Thief Song Los Angeles while I'm low fiving some of those robotic coolers on Sunset. That feels artsy, that feels like I'm being funny in some way. But yeah, I. I go from, oh, wow, that's amazing. I got a follow from this guy, which means there must have been an email that went around to everybody saying, these are the people that are gonna come interview you all. I actually don't even think I'm really there to interview anybody else on the show other than Tim Heidecker, because it's. Unless they're. Maybe they're all going over to the Onion, I'm not sure. But. But there was something about knowing that this guy, whose work I admire, Vic Berger, learned that I exist and I'm coming there. And then he took a moment to go follow me on Instagram. Was. It was. I don't know. It was an interesting experience for me. I felt weirdly kind of starstruck by the idea that he is aware that I exist. And then of course, I DM'd him. I was like, big fan. Can't wait to talk to you on Wednesday. No response.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, well, of course. Yeah, well, Instagram's a little bit weird if you guys are following each other now. He. I guess he could have or should have seen that. But Instagram messages are also very weird. So I want to give you a little bit of COVID there. Could have gone to some weird no man's land of messages, but Again, I'll

[Luke Burbank]

have a full report tomorrow from Los Angeles about how it went and also just what the whole setup was, which I feel like you'll be sort of curious about a little bit. Andrew, just in the, in, you know, being a fellow professional podcaster in the

[Andrew Walsh]

space here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man. It's not from a female, Andrew.

[Luke Burbank]

We've. We've gone through all the dazzling donors and now here we are just jumping right into some V mails because for the last, I want to say, four shows, we've gotten towards the end, we've taken a brief pause, I've said, what do you want to do here? And you've said, oh, I've got a couple of great voicemails. I said, perfect, let's end things.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, that was like. You mean off air? We were like kind of negotiating.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, we had pause on the recording. So we've got, we've got a bunch of voicemails that have been backing up and we need to get to them.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. But also like. And I've also admitted on the show in the past few weeks that I was playing catch up on, just like reviewing and grabbing voicemails off the line. And I would like to say that we are damn near caught up now. It looks like you come in over the past couple of weeks, maybe that I will review and get back into the hopper. But there were four voicemails that I have saved here that I don't know how many we can get through today. But. And by the way, one of the calls is coming from inside the building, Luke. But I'm not going to start with that one. I think I'm going to start with the longest one because people always say, like, Andrew, what we're interested is length of content, not actually what's in it. No, I like this. It's a bit of a stem winder. It's from Rachel in Maine, but it's referring to or it's referencing, which is two ways of saying the same thing. Another voicemail that was left by another listener who had spent some time in Russia. Do you remember this? In the winter. Oh, and that's right. What prompted it was a conversation about like house burping, I believe was the term times used when even in the middle of winter, some people will go around and just like throw all the windows open in the house for 20 minutes or something and let everything air out and then close it again. And I think that that was maybe A Scandinavian thing. But somebody had talked about how when they were in Russia in the 90s, I want to say, although I could be wrong about that.

[Luke Burbank]

I think it was. Oh, yeah, I don't want to interrupt you.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, go ahead. Who do you think it was?

[Luke Burbank]

I think. Well, I don't rem. I remember the person who left the message. But the story was that they were living with some. With a kind of like an older, like babushka and that she had. And had. She had like put plastic over all of the windows. And they were in a big kind of like Soviet, you know, sort of high rise, you know, presumably like sort of public communist housing and that with the windows plugged up, it got so unbelievably warm. And this person had like undone some of the plastic and then just gotten the tongue lashing of a lifeguard.

[Andrew Walsh]

He was in college at the time. And he had come home, he had helped her do all the sealing, all the winter sealing up of the windows. And then he had come home after a night of drinking and the heat was on. And he's like, I just need some fresh air. And so drunken brained him, just sort of like broke the seal, opened up his window and then woke up in the morning to find that snow had blown in and there were papers all over the place. And he got in trouble. He got hollered at by the woman who was putting him up. Now, Rachel in Maine said that she could associate with that story.

[Rachel in Maine]

Hey, business boys, it's Rachel in Maine. I was just listening to the caller who was recounting their study abroad experience in Moscow where they opened the window and got a tongue lashing from their babushka. I just wanted to say I totally relate. I studied abroad in St. Petersburg and stayed with the family there. And then I also lived in Ukraine for about two years. And the apartment I lived in in Ukraine, I was living on my own in this old Soviet apartment. It was on city heat. So basically the heat would come on in November and go off in March no matter what. So it was like snowing in October and there was no heat because that just wasn't the time yet. Or it would be sweltering in March and heat would still be blazing because that was the time for the heat. Also, there's an idea among older Slavic women, you know, Soviet or not, that if you have a window open or there's a draft, you can catch a. That's how you get sick. That's how you catch a cold, or if you're sitting on cold Stone, you can become infertile. So the number of times that I was sort of sitting in a sweltering train car with a group of older Slavic women just wishing that we could open that window is just innumerable. Similarly, the number of times I've been given a scarf or, like, a piece of carpet or something to put under my bottom so I don't become infertile. Anyway, I was a Slavic languages major. My family's from Ukraine. So. Yeah, dusted on you and power out.

[Andrew Walsh]

I wonder if there were young women in Russia who would purposely find the coldest bench to sit on as a form of family planning.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, that's. This might be the first I'm learning that you can't catch. You don't catch a cold from being in a drafty house. That's totally made up. That's not a real thing.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't think so. Because for me, growing up, and keep in mind, I had kind of a Polish grandma who would tell me that if I went outside with my hair wet, I would get sick. But I think it's more germs.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, okay, yes. But I guess what I thought was. I mean, obviously it's germs more than temperature, but I guess the way I pictured it was, well, if you're cold, your immune system is having to work harder to maybe keep everything right, and therefore you might be susceptible to the germs. Like, I got the idea of being outside in the cold, wearing a T shirt could make it so that your immune system was somehow less effective because maybe your body is having to focus all its energy on keeping you warm. It's taking its eye off the ball of the immune system, and therefore you get.

[Doctor]

You.

[Luke Burbank]

You're more susceptible to the germs. I think that's what I always assumed, but that. Yeah, I mean, sounds kind of silly when I say it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, but no, no, no. I think that actually you're right. So if you just type in, can being cold cause sickness? Which I did into the Googles, and then the Googles gives you this little roundup. It's kind of AI, but actually, I do like the fact that it's sort of. I don't know if you've this. On some of these AI roundups they do now, they do include links to their source material. So it says, no, you can't get sick from being cold directly. And it's mostly linking to Mayo Clinic stuff here, which is kind of one of the main search results anyway, when you're looking up health stuff online. But it does say, here's how cold weather does contribute to getting sick. And Luke, where's my bill? Immune response. When you are cold, your body redirects energy to maintain its core temperature, which can slightly weaken your immune system's ability to fight off infections. And again, they're linking back to the Mayo Clinic minute. Can cold weather cause a cold? There from a couple.

[Luke Burbank]

See, so these.

[Andrew Walsh]

There you go. So what you said is actually Russian ladies were.

[Luke Burbank]

Now see what it says about cold stones and. Yeah, birth control.

[Andrew Walsh]

It says highly recommended and says nothing. Nothing can go wrong there. So go ahead, sit on a cold bench, have the time of your absolute life, and you are guaranteed not to get preggers. It says here. So thanks, Mayo Clinic.

[Luke Burbank]

Excellent.

[Andrew Walsh]

All right, you want some more voicemails here, because I got it. I got them. Oh, okay. This one is just. This one is just fun. This is just a little bit of trivia from our friend Melisande. I don't know what spurred this. Were we talking about the Mission Impossible song at some point? Does that even ring about you?

[Luke Burbank]

That does not ring a bell.

[Andrew Walsh]

No. Me neither. And maybe. And maybe we weren't. She might even say at the beginning that this is apropos of nothing, and it just seems like a tidbit that we'd appreciate.

[Melisande]

Hey, you guys, I just wanted to give you this really awesome piece of trivia that I just have to share with everyone because I think it's so cool. You know the song from Mission Impossible, right? It's based on Morse code for M and I, because with the dits and the dahs, right? So it's M is da da and I is dit dit, and so it's da da dit. Isn't it freaking cool? I just think, like, that is so cool. I don't know this. It just. I had to tell somebody. I learned it from this really awesome

[Rachel in Maine]

little show called let's Learn Everything.

[Melisande]

And it's. It's true. They're relearning a lot of things.

[Andrew Walsh]

I'll beep out the name of the other podcast. Luke.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, thank you.

[Melisande]

Anyways, that has nothing to do with anything, okay? It's just freaking cool.

[Andrew Walsh]

So mi, of course, being the initials for Mission Impossible.

[Luke Burbank]

So it's like dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun.

[Andrew Walsh]

Get pulled down now. I guess so and so. But it's not the notes, because remember there was that rumor that the NBC, the three tone little sonic imaging was based because it's G, E, C. Those are the notes or something. And people said, oh, it was for General Electric Company, which owned NBC at the time. That ended up being a tall tale. I believe they might be the right notes, but it's not because GE ended up buying NBC. I think it predated their involvement with the network. But I guess this is not note related because there is no M note, as far as I can tell. But more about Morse code.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you know who this guy, David McCallum was? Oddly enough, he was on. And he was a British actor. He was on NCIS towards the end of his life and was on that show for a long time. But before that, he was. Let me just double check this. David McCallum. Do I dare go on IMDb?

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, God.

[Luke Burbank]

Right? Was I the canary in the coal mine of the inshidification of IMDb for you? Because I feel like I was banging that. I was banging that pot for a while. Let's see. He was. I wanted to figure out what his roles were, because I know he. He was in the Great Escape. He was the man from U.N.C.L.E. okay, so the man from U.N.CEL.L.E.

[Andrew Walsh]

was.

[Luke Burbank]

I think that was like a spy show. U.N.CULE is U, N, C, L, E. I never watched the. The man from UNCLE but I think that was something that he was very kind of famous for to a certain generation. But he also released a jazz record in the, like, 60s, and he had a song called the Edge. Are you familiar with this?

[John Sklaroff]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Let me see if I can find. I'm gonna find this song, and this is gonna be another audio nightmare when I'm trying to play this off of YouTube. But let's see. We're gonna have to skip through a couple of commercials, but this is the guy who was the man from UNCLE and then later was like, the professor on, like, NCI or. Yeah, ncis, I think. You think? I just did a story about that. Them and. But he had this jazz record, the Edge, or this jazz record called Music A Bit More of me by David McCallum.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

This song, the Edge, ended up kind of changing to some degree the course of rap music. Take a listen to this. See if you recognize it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, my God.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, yeah, Dre. Oh, my God. It's awesome.

[Luke Burbank]

Isn't this. It's also just a good song,

[Andrew Walsh]

And I love how deep the. The record collections or the digging in the stacks goes. That Dre was kind of like, I'm gonna give this David McCallum record a spin.

[Luke Burbank]

Music. Colon. A Bit More of me by the man for the guy who was The man from U.N.C.L.E.

[Andrew Walsh]

this is awesome.

[Luke Burbank]

You know what? And by the way this is, it's like I'm trying to figure out what track it is. This is, like. This is the 1, 2, 3. Like, it's like the. Like, the ninth track on the record.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I bet you this whole album is worth going back and listening to.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I like this stuff. You know, Genevieve got some sort of a big piece of furniture at an estate sale. I think it was one of those big pieces of furniture that had a record player built into it. It was from, like, the 1960s, and along with that were a whole bunch of records. But it was the kind of records that you find, like, Goodwill stores, like, the kind that are, like, a dime a dozen. I'm sure there is one of those, like, parody Kennedy family records in there that appear in, like, every site. I know we've talked about those before. Do you know what I'm talking about when I say that?

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

All kinds of stuff. They probably had literally every single. Every single. Not Bert Bacharach, but.

[Luke Burbank]

Hold on. Not Stan Getz, but. No, I just saw Herb Alpert.

[Andrew Walsh]

Herb Alpert. Thank you.

[Luke Burbank]

By the way. I saw Herb Alpert live, like, I want to say, seven, eight years ago. Awesome.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, good.

[Luke Burbank]

Totally awesome. At the Triple Door.

[Andrew Walsh]

He was great. Oh, at the tripledore, of all places.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, was that. Were you hosting something there?

[Luke Burbank]

Were you just. No, I just. I just wanted to see him.

[Andrew Walsh]

I remember you hosting something of the Tripledore, too. That's a cool space.

[Luke Burbank]

But I was kind of surprised. Yeah. That he was still. Herb Alpert was still out there doing it and sounding great.

[Andrew Walsh]

So anyway, this piece of furniture that Genevieve bought and then ended up kind of giving away to somebody else, we grabbed all the records out of it, but I got rid of most of them. I think I saved all the Herb Alperts. Just, like, why not have one Herb Albert record or one copy of each of his records, if you have them? And then, like, a bunch of holiday music that I got rid of and stuff. But there are some, like. There's some Mancini Records in there. There are a bunch of those and stuff that is kind of along the lines of this, like, movie music from the time. Just like, this kind of lounge. Literally, like, the stuff that people would play as lounge music in the 1960s and 70s. And I kept a couple of them just to put on, like, I'm trying to think of. I'm sorry that I'm. I'm blanking on the specific name of this one Mancini record. Is like, I don't know, maybe music from some Italian movie or something like that. I'm like, oh, I'll put that on every now and then. And not in a. Not in a campy, sarcastic way. It's just a vibe.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I feel like we don't there. That kind of music is not really. Well, I don't know. I guess there's. It seems like jazz is kind of coming back. I mean, I went to a jazz show with Addie in la and it was packed. And like, I feel like. Yeah, I feel like maybe the younger generation is kind of getting better. There's this kid. Well, he's. His handle is Gucci Pineapple on TikTok, but I think his actual name is Alden. And he and his buddy, they're Berkley School of Music guys, but they do. They kind of are this, like, jazz duo or trio. And they're coming through Portland in a couple of months and I'm totally gonna go see them. Wait a second.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is the guy with the little mustache, and he had the little bit of a lisp. And you were so obsessed with him. He was so funny.

[Luke Burbank]

I was obsessed with his TikTok content because he's so funny. But he's a very talented jazz drummer and he's got this. I think it's called like, Spencer and Alden or something. This little jazz duo that he's doing with his friend, and they're like, touring and, like, I'm gonna legitimately go see them. I guess where I started is not where I ended with this, but I was gonna say, like, it. Just think about the time when every record collection in America, every home, had like four or five jazz records, or at least Mancini or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, what is the equivalent of that today? Well, first of all, we don't own records. We don't even own CDs. But, like, is that. Is that techno? Is that. Like, is that what. What musical genre has slipped in and replaced, like, that kind of music that. That people. There was a standard thing to have in your house, Herb Alpert, that was just like. Everybody had that Herb Alpert record. What. What are people listening to instead of that now?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, that's a good. I don't know if I have an answer to that question, but it does remind me of a similar sort of thought experiment that I've been having in the car. I still have satellite radio in the car, and sometimes. Mostly it's for listening to either baseball games or baseball related content in Some way. But sometimes this happened on. I think this happened on Sunday. Sunday was that brutal loss to the Tigers, right, where we lost the ninth, and it sucked. And so I wanted nothing. This doesn't happen to me all that often. But I was like, I don't even want to think about the game of baseball right now. I don't want to think about it. And I was like, I wasn't following that game really closely. It was another one of those games where I was kind of running around listening on the radio or at a certain point just thought, oh, good, good, we won the series or whatever. And then to lose so brutally at the end, I was just like, I don't want to. I don't want to think about the game right now at all. And so I just started, like, flipping through, said like, click, click, click, which I hadn't done in a while. And I started putting together, like, almost a pie chart in my head of what genres are sort of flooding the zone as far as satellite radio options are. And. And what I noticed is there is so much country. That was the first thing that struck me. I mean, I don't know the last time you've just flipped through satellite radio, Luke. I don't think that's something you do a lot, but it is just like Carrie Underwood's country and Shoes off radio and cool country and hot country and Keith Urban. Actually, if you want to use any of this for your interview with Keith Urban. Yeah, go for it. So I was like, boy, that. So is that representative of. Of American tastes or is that representative of, you know, the niche tastes of those who subscribe to satellite radio in 2026? The other one is comedy. Tons of tons of comedy. I would say a decent amount of hip hop, but doesn't really compete. It depends on kind of how wide you want to throw the net of, like, kind of hip hop and soul in the kind of the cross genre stuff that's going on there. But still, country is super, super, super represented. And I think the reason might be also because maybe is it truck drivers who are mostly using. Oh, that's a huge chunk of the satellite radio subscriber audience as truck drivers.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, that's a good point. I think that probably it is a lot of people that are driving for a living in one way or another. I also just think that modern country music asks so little of you as the listener. I mean, God bless. And people can like what they like, and you get me on a boat and a couple of C minuses in a couple of Coors lights in. And I can definitely get the appeal of some just real right down the middle, country music. And again, I'm sure we have listeners that love that stuff, but it is just. It's everywhere because it just. It requires so little of you as the listener. You know what I mean? And so of course, that's why it's popular. Not that I need. I don't need my music to be particularly challenging either. You know, it's not like. Like, it's not like I'm trying to listen to a bunch of, you know, tuv and throat singing or something. Although I do like Mysterious voices of Bulgaria, which is maybe a little challenging. But. Yeah, it's just. It's just. It's just so. The. Every single song sounds so similar to me with the. With the modern country sound. It's a genre that I. Doesn't really speak to me a ton, but certainly a lot of people like it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Let me see here. I don't know if this is going to be an updated listing or not. It seems to be so. I hope this doesn't bely my point. I hope it is ports it instead. But you have the highway, which is next generation country music. That's channel 56, 57. You have Y2 country. That's Y2K.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, sure. 2000s country.

[Andrew Walsh]

2000s country. Channel 58 is prime country. That's 80s and 90s country hits.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Channel 59 is no Shoes radio. That's Kenny Chesney's channel there.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, sure. It's amazing that, like that. That's amazing to me that there was room for another guy who's singing about like, we don't need to wear shoes on the beach. Because you really felt like Jimmy Buffett had fully. Had, fully taken over that space.

[Andrew Walsh]

I didn't realize how literal that is. Does he have a fame? I didn't know that it was Kenny Chesney. I thought that was just sort of describing a vibe of country music. But he has Kenny.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I don't, you know, I don't know. I don't know if he has. He must have a song about not wearing shoes. But his whole vibe. Vibe. He's. I guess he's like the country Jimmy Buffett. Like if. If Jimmy Buffett. If you like the messaging of Jimmy Buffett, but you want it with more twang. That's where Kenny Chesney comes in, you

[Andrew Walsh]

know, about you and Tequila is one of his. Oh, that song actually kind of slaps.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't see you and Tequila make me crazy. I don't blow like water in my blood One more night might kill me, baby One is one too many One more is never. That's the one Kenny Chesney song I like.

[Andrew Walsh]

What about she Thinks My Tractor Is Sexy? Okay, well, let me go back to this.

[Luke Burbank]

That was a song. You know, our friend Ron Upshaw wrote a song called she Thinks My Truck Is Sexy because he was. This is long before AI. He said. He said anybody could write a country song. And he wrote a country western song called she Thinks My Truck Is Sexy years ago and was trying to literally

[Andrew Walsh]

make it a thing before 1999, because that's when that came out. She Thinks My Tractor is Sexy is 1999.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know, because I didn't meet him. I didn't know him back then. So maybe. Maybe he was pulling a Colin Jost. He was pulling a Luke V. Calling Jost.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Now, I don't know that that's actually what happened there. Now I feel like that's living in your head more than I. Okay, let me go back to this. Let me go back to the serious radio list, because we're still. We are still going. So you have no Shoes Radio. Then you have Carrie's Country. That's Carrie Underwood. I'm glad that I identified that off the dome before. Yeah, that was a good poll for you, Channel 6. Thank you.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't mean that sarcastically, but I'm just saying Gary Underwood is not someone

[Andrew Walsh]

that I would say. When you compliment somebody, you can leave off the. For you just as a.

[Rachel in Maine]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

But you're right. Channel 61, Willie's Roadhouse. Willie's Classic Country. Channel 62, Outlaw Country. Channel 63, Chris Stapleton in Law Country.

[Luke Burbank]

Only country music about your mother.

[Andrew Walsh]

In Law 63, Chris Stapleton radio. That's country, right?

[Luke Burbank]

I think he's a good one, too. I think Chris Stapleton is.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

Kind of a little bit more. I think he's making maybe slightly more interesting country.

[Andrew Walsh]

I see. And this is. This says it has Chris Stapleton, Tom Petty, George Jones, Lainey Wilson. I don't know who. But so it sounds like that's maybe. Maybe the center is not holding a little bit. And then the last one is Morgan Wallen.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah, that's a. Miss Me with that.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is not. Is this country or.

[Luke Burbank]

No, it is country. He's the most popular country artist in America.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

He also was caught screaming the N word off of his porch. He's white, by the way. He was screaming the N word off of his porch. This Was back when that was something that could get you in more trouble than it can now. And even then, he just kind of did a little. Yeah, well, I was drunk. And he also threw a chair. I believe this was him. I think he threw a chair off of a rooftop bar in Nashville and it crashed near a cop or something. And that he. I just saw a clip of him the other day. He's on stage, he's performing, and there's one of the security people. So everybody in the crowd has their cameras, their phones up. You know, that's what happens now. But there was a security guy who had his phone up and was taping Morgan Wallen. And I guess this ticked Morgan Wallen off. Maybe he felt like the security guy should be doing security, not filming him. Grabbed the guy's cell phone and chucked it across the stage. He's just. He seems like an all around awful human being, but because he's wildly popular, he just is. Just there seem to be no consequences for him.

[Andrew Walsh]

And this is why I want to get popular.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, exactly. I mean, you think about the life you could lead.

[Andrew Walsh]

Think of all the things I could do.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. So that's my. That's my. That's my quick take on Morgan Wallen. Not a fan.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, I.

[Luke Burbank]

One more voicemail.

[Andrew Walsh]

Time for one more. And since I sort of tease this, I said, one is coming from inside the house. This is our friend and colleague, John. David Scalaro.

[Luke Burbank]

I thought it was from Lucy. I thought inside your house. You would be inside the TBTB house.

[Andrew Walsh]

Do you know John's middle name? I don't know why I went with David there.

[Luke Burbank]

John

[Andrew Walsh]

Ichaba.

[Luke Burbank]

Mookie. Mookie.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's probably Mookie. Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

John Mookie Sklaroff.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is from our friend and colleague John Sklaroff. We were talking about found money, but not like the kind of money that you find on the ground. But I think you were talking about how you had gone online to one of those websites and given some information, and they're like, oh, yeah, there's money waiting for you in various states. Things that.

[Luke Burbank]

I got it too. It actually showed up.

[Andrew Walsh]

And so John had a story about that.

[John Sklaroff]

Hey, guys, it's employee numero uno, John Sklaroff. I'm just listening to yesterday's show. I think it's 4701, the episode you guys are talking about, unclaimed money. So this is something funny that happened 45 episodes ago. My friend Adam is.

[Andrew Walsh]

What was it? What was the number again?

[Luke Burbank]

45 episodes ago.

[Andrew Walsh]

Was it really? Is that the best? Yeah, I was digging. I let some things build up he after college. So I don't know if I talked over that, but he is talking about a buddy of his recently, my friend Adam.

[John Sklaroff]

He, after college, moved to Australia for six months and he like worked really, you know, worked like bars, restaurants for like the first three months, made as much money as he could, and then the next three months just like toured all throughout Australia. Had a really great time. Right. So that's 20 something years ago. Recently, he and his wife were going on a trip to Australia and he knew he had some money in a bank account there. And like from his recollection again, 20 years ago, he was like, oh, it was like a few hundred bucks Australian dollars. Like, you know, I'm gonna go like, see if I can get it out. He goes there, goes to the bank, deals with all this other kind of verification stuff. Turns out that it was a little bit more than he had thought originally. Plus 20 years of like interest. And I think it must have been a high interest account or something.

[Melisande]

Something.

[John Sklaroff]

He came home with over $6,000 Australia. I don't know what the conversion rate is over $6,000 from Australia that he had left in the bank, you know, 20 something years ago. That just grew over that time. So. All right, guys, have a good day. Power out.

[Luke Burbank]

That's how you do it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that is the dream, man. Free money.

[Luke Burbank]

Leave it in an account in another country. Yeah, because then you can't get to it. I wonder even how you like. I mean, he must have known the name of the bank. Like, how do you even. Yeah, where do you start with that? You come back, you go, okay, 20 years ago, you just think all the computer systems would have changed over. I also trust. I guess Australia probably has a pretty good system, whatever their version of the FDIC is and stuff. So, like, you know, I'm sure if you're. Anything you're doing in the bank, you've got to be porting over all of the, all of the records and all of the accounts and all the money that's owed to people. That's a big part of the job. But still, like, it's kind of amazing to me that they still basically had him in the system. System.

[Andrew Walsh]

Maybe they have the same people who are making sure you don't like, bring coconuts and.

[Luke Burbank]

And you think it's Barnaby 5. It's probably Barnaby yelling at Johnny Depp.

[Andrew Walsh]

And Amber heard a lot of attention to detail.

[Luke Burbank]

So guy wears a lot of hats.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, he really does. All right, all right, I'll leave it there.

[Luke Burbank]

I think we better wrap it on up for today because I've got. I've got to run to catch my flight. But like I said, we're gonna be right back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio. I'll have a full report on my interview with Tim Heidecker and everything else fun that's happening in Los Angeles, California. So please do tune in for that. In the meantime, have a great Wednesday, everybody. Take care of yourselves, and please remember, no Mountain Too Tall.

[Andrew Walsh]

Good luck to all, and don't forget to ask Tim if we can use his bass song for the Blurs day.

[Luke Burbank]

If it's going well, if I see an opening, I absolutely will take a contract. Yeah.

[John Sklaroff]

Power out.