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Andrew
Come with me to try the yuzu pepperoni cup ranch vodka pasta at Sausage Hole Collective. This charming windowless food shack is a gem in the crown of Las Veg Angeles, North Ohio. Tonight, we're here to try their Dubai chocolate cream cheese everything bagel cinnamon bun. And you can't leave without going to breakup Bang's burger house right next door. And trying their karna burger with extra vore sauce. These two local favorites hit the spot every time. TBTL. I don't have a soul, but I
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Luke Burbank
guess that's an intergalactic space greeting that
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Andrew
means, hello, space brothers. Do not put that on the imaginary radio show.
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Luke Burbank
I don't know if it's video games or what, but it's so unfair to
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Andrew
after something like this to blame people
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Luke Burbank
in the backseat or say they deserve it.
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Andrew
I don't know who that is, and I don't care to find out.
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Luke Burbank
Oh, I get it.
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Andrew
You're joking.
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Luke Burbank
See, I'm cool.
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Andrew
I get jokes.
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Luke Burbank
Listen, please, please, please, if anybody doesn't
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Andrew
know the difference between a Valance and
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Luke Burbank
a Jabot, I really need you to leave. Shh.
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Andrew
I get it. I know who you are. It's been explained to me. I'm into it. Let's talk.
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Luke Burbank
All right. Hello, good morning and welcome, everyone, to a Thursday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live. You can do whatever you want to in life. Just make sure you do it well and you do it with passion. My name's Luke Burbank. I am your host. I like turtles. Coming to you from Los Angeles, California.
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Andrew
California got sunshine.
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Luke Burbank
Specifically the Hollywood area, specifically the intersection of Wilcox and Sunset, where we still do not have much clarity on what the deal is with Hit Boy. But we know a lot of other things and we're gonna talk about them today on the program. If you're scoring at home, it's episode 4000, 747 in a collector's series, Let the fun begin. That's a lot of episodes of a podcast. So much so that when I was explaining this yesterday to some of the folks that work on the Office Hours live program, which is also, I guess, effectively a podcast, it's a streaming live show that then exists in podcast form, telling them how many episodes we've done, and they were pretty amazed. So that made me feel kind of good when I got to watch them make their program, which is, I have to say, elite level of stuff.
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Andrew
Beautifully wrapped, glossy, sweet smelling show did
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Luke Burbank
leave me with serious drops. Envy, which we'll get into. And I Got to interview Tim Heidecker, who's a big comedy hero of ours around here.
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Andrew
Targets.
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Luke Burbank
Targets. So it was a fun day and we're gonna have a fun show here, though, because it's a Thursday, AKA Blursday. My birthday today. Do the Blursday messages and we're gonna talk to this guy. He's the longest running cobra of the show, maybe best known for his depict of the tall ships. We're interrupting his typical Thursday morning routine. I'm just sitting there on my ipod. But he's taking it pretty well. He's Andrew Walsh and he's joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.
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Andrew
Good morning, Luke. I'm sorry to start the show on a little bit of a bummer note, but you promised me that if we arranged it to send you to LA again, you would tell us what is up with Hit Boy. You said, this time. This time I will get to the bottom of Hitboy. And now you're starting the show by saying no updates.
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Luke Burbank
No updates on what the deal is with Hitboy. I still haven't tasted the 310, baby fire shrimp pasta. The other thing that is prominently displayed here in the part of Hollywood where I tend to stay now. Yeah. For people that don't know what in the world I was talking about, they've had these couple of billboards up around here for like the last six to eight months. Every time I come back down, I wonder if this will be the trip where they've swapped them out and it turns out no.
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Andrew
Are you hoping that they swap it out with a billboard that says, we figured out what's the deal with Hitboy? Oh, I see. You know what it is. He's got a song called what's the Deal? Did we already Google this? Did we already know that?
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Luke Burbank
I think maybe the first reference, which I'd say was eight months ago. I think we may have. We may have. I have something more interesting than Hit Boy even unfolding here in front of my eyes, Andrew, which is. Remember when I had my adult skateboarding phase?
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Andrew
Oh, yeah. What's up, fellow youth? Yes.
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Luke Burbank
Yeah, exactly. And it went, I'd say, okay. Sometimes it was kind of fun. Sometimes I fell down in Portland, Oregon, while wearing an enormous backpack that had all my stuff in it. When I got caught up on like a Max Line kind of railway. That was. I could have gotten some sweet moolah out of that. That seems to be a big source of lawsuits in the Seattle area is people riding their bikes and then getting caught up in those kind of embedded Tracks that are kind of at street level, if you know what I'm talking about.
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Andrew
Oh, sure, yeah. That was a big thing with like kind of an area of the Burke Gilman. Right? Or where the Burke Gilman ended. Yes, yeah.
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Luke Burbank
And there's just. That's, that's kind of dangerous. I hit one of those on my skateboard and fell down and kind of hurt myself. But it would be too embarrassing for me to try to pursue legal action against the city of Portland. They say, well, sir, what were you doing? I was like, well, I was skateboarding as a 46 year old man. Okay, but you didn't have like a really heavy backpack on, throwing your already shaky balance all the way off. And I would say, well, actually, yes, that was also happening. And I believe the judge would, would slam their gavel down and say, order in the court. I'm dismissing the case in your defense.
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Andrew
The backpack was only filled with about 50 cans of hungry Man Soup, I believe.
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Luke Burbank
Uh huh.
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Andrew
Just like the.
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Luke Burbank
That was during my all Hungry Man
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Andrew
Soup, the hamburger soup that I sometimes see in the grocery store. Who was the, who was the politician who just loved snacks?
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Luke Burbank
Ted Cruz.
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Andrew
It was Ted Cruz. That's right. Ted Cruz style. Cans of soup. Just weighing you backwards.
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Luke Burbank
I, I was thinking of my skateboarding phase because, Andrew, because as we were talking, as we were beginning the program, I was watching a guy who looked definitely, maybe older than I am even now. Although it's hard to tell anymore because at age 50, as I've said before, my whole sense of what everyone else's age is really gets kind of thrown off. Like this guy, he was wearing a fedora. I'm not kidding you, by the way. He was wearing a fedora and he was skateboarding down Wilcox. But he also looked very unsteady. So I mean, he didn't fall, but he didn't look like he was in total control of the skateboard situation. It reminded me of my brief foray into skateboarding, both from an age standpoint and from a, let's just say, lack of mastery standpoint. And then he got down to the corner of Sunset and then crossed Sunset again, looking like he was about to fall at any moment, but then somehow did not. He safely navigated over to the corner where the Staples is, which by the way, I've got a great update on that. Balloons are here, Andrew, Balloons are here at Staples. That's what the. We don't know what the deal is with Hit Boy, but we know that balloons are definitely here. This is the one sound effect Thing I brought with me to la because they've got a party city now in this Staples. And anyway, he got across the street and then it appeared that he realized that he had used up all of his nine lives on the skateboard journey down Wilcox. And he just picked up the skateboard and started walking with it. He also was like, yeah, that was touch and go. Somehow I managed to pull this off without completely eating shit. But I'm not going to tempt fate any longer. I'm not going to pick up my skateboard and walk down Sunset with it. And I think. I think I can say for all of us, that was a relief. I was really glad to see that he made that decision.
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Andrew
I like that he's out there. He'll probably put the skateboard down another time and try it and then maybe hit his limit again and pick it up. And here's the deal.
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Luke Burbank
I know a guy who's at his limit.
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Andrew
I know a guy who's at his limit. I want to. If you're expecting me to say something sarcastic here or turn this into a joke, I'm afraid that I don't have that in me. I'm just going to say something earnest, which is one of the things I really liked about Los Angeles, obviously. I mean, what can one say about Los Angeles? It's like, you know, it's one of the most iconic cities in the world, right? And it's got its reputations. But I also did like the kind of the casual cultures of it that I hadn't really contemplated before. And I liked the fact that you did see just all kinds of people using skateboards as transportation. Like, that was just something that was just like a kind of a casual truth of la. You could see a man in a business suit maybe. Well, probably not with a briefcase, but like, maybe with a bag slung over his shoulder, just. Just zipping down the street and stopping in at the Jamba Juice and then. And then heading on to work or whatever. And, like, I just saw that. And honestly, and I think we've talked about this, that was one of the reasons why I really wanted to get rollerblading down. Like, the act, the art of rollerblading, like. And I'm. We've brought it up recently on the show. I. I tried, I failed. I gave them to Goodwill, my Rollerblades. But I loved how it wasn't like, hey, let's plan a rollerblading date in la. It just sort of seems like, well, I need to go somewhere. And it seems like some sort of wheels on my feet would make that a more fun or easier, faster trip. And I loved that, particularly over, like,
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Luke Burbank
you were working in Santa Monica. And I feel like there's a strong Santa Monica, Venice beach culture of longboarding, of people on those very long skateboards that I think are sort of more stable. And people like to, you know, sort of go up and down the various kind of like Oceanside paved areas with those. That was a. That might have been better for me because I think I was still trying to. Well, I was skating on an even smaller than normal skateboard, which was probably added to my sense of instability. But I'm with you. I mean, I love. I was recently trying to. I don't want to say explain la, because that sounds very sort of pedantic, but I was talking to a woman backstage at Livewire who was in sort of music management and was working on behalf of our musical guest that week. And she had just moved to Los Angeles. And I was really trying to go to bat for LA as a city because she was saying, I never thought I would live in la. I just didn't really. It was not on my bingo card, as, you know, we say around here a lot. And I was just. I was trying to make the argument for la and I was having such a hard time putting it in words because, I mean, I love this town. This is my. Probably my favorite city in America for all of its, you know, hassles and all the things about LA that are not ideal. And for me, of course, that is because I was the first city that I'd ever lived in that as an adult that wasn't Seattle. And I. It was a really fun, exciting time in my life. I had gotten this job at npr. I was working with a bunch of people I really looked up to was getting all these new opportunities. It was sunny outside. Like, it just was this very magical time in my life. And it really made a strong impression on me. But as I was trying to kind of list the things that were good about la, I was like, well, you know, it's like there's just a lot of weird improvised shit going on because it's so poorly designed, which is not exactly a ringing endorsement. Like, I don't just think the chaotic parts of Los Angeles, you know, where there's just kind of like people selling stuff out of the back of their car or just kind of like weird, crazy stores that I don't even understand what the business model is, you know, like, that's the part of LA that I really love. But When I was trying to explain it to this person or trying to kind of make the case for la, I felt like language was really eluding me.
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Andrew
And now that this is super important, but I want to give love to my East Siders as well, because that example I gave of a businessman on a skateboard, that actually happened on Wilshire in my neighborhood, like, I was just. That wasn't actually a. Just a random thing. He literally. I watched him. Him go into the. Go into the Jamba Juice that I think was a Jamba Juice or some sort of a smoothie place too. So it's not just the sort of surf scene there as well. But I. I started to like LA once I. Once I found myself in a job, this job that I liked, I did not like L. A at first because I didn't like my situation in la and I was. I think I was pretty conscious of that. I, you know, you and I were doing the show for a while, and I don't think that I ever, like, you know, I didn't take to LA the way you and Genevieve did. Like, you guys love it in your. In your soul. And I. And I. But there are just factors, you know, like the weather, there doesn't, you know, I just don't have a personality that matches the sunny weather constantly. And so, like, I really like Seattle. I like the changing of the seasons that are, you know, a little bit more here and stuff. So I wasn't, like, predisposed to love la. But also people who really dislike la, I sort of feel like, are the people who. I think it's really hard to be poor in la. I think you've mentioned that before, you know, because then you have to keep a car running in order to get from point A to point B, because you're so dependent on car culture and stuff there. Or you might just be, like, thriving so hard or striving, I should say, so hard to break into some industry, and maybe that doesn't spark as much joy. And I just was under a lot of stress first, like, year and a half there, and then I can't walk anywhere, can't walk to the grocery store. Well, it turns out once I wasn't, like, you know, like, literally working or trying to get back forth to work for, like, 14 hours a day, I could walk to the grocery store. You know, like, the city opened up for me and I sort of feel like LA has a weirdly bad reputation from people who have never been there before. Yes.
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Luke Burbank
The thing that I always say is it's Often the biggest. Well, the biggest LA detractors in my experience are maybe people who visited one time and they were staying with somebody's like, you know, they were staying with some, like, extended family or some friend of a friend in one part of the area, but they were trying to go to a totally far away other part of the area on, like, a Friday afternoon, which is utter madness around here, and just had, like, a bad experience. Or they. They went to la, but their big night out, they went to, like, the Saddle Ranch Bar on Sunset or something. They just kind of like, didn't have maybe the best experience, maybe because of not really knowing the lay of the land and then just wrote it off as, like, this, you know, terrible city. The other people who really don't seem to like LA are people in New York and people in San Francisco. And I always think it's kind of funny because I don't feel like anyone in LA really has it out for any other cities. Like, because my thing I've always said is most people in LA are just too busy enjoying being in the sunshine to really give a lot of thought to, like, San Francisco. There's, like, a big rival, like, people in San Francisco that in my experience really like to be like, oh, man, I got to go to LA this week. Wish me luck, you know? And it's like, people in LA are like, if you say, oh, I'm going to San Francisco, they're like, cool. I love San Francisco. Like, I feel like, in a way, Louisiana is kind of a big Marmaduke of a town where being here, again, this is all through my lens of just really liking the city. It's like, it doesn't leave me a lot of room to be annoyed with other cities or think other cities suck, because I'm. I'm just too busy picking up my balloons at Party City in the Staples, because, as I mentioned, balloons are here.
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Andrew
I will say one thing that I noticed about L. A when I was first there, and this might have been. This could be a characteristic of certain sectors of L, A, or it could be the actual time I was there, which was about 10 years ago now. I think it was. Somebody asked. Somebody asked me, like, when were you in la?
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Luke Burbank
How dare you even say that?
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Andrew
I got a text or an email from a listener who was like, wait, you've been saying that you were in L. A 10 years ago for, like, 10 years now. Like, when were you actually in L. A? And it's like, well, maybe I've been rounding for a while, but I Do think that I was there in 14 and 15, 2014 and 2015. And this could have been just a cultural phenomenon going on at the time. But as a newbie there, and it also could be the people I was surrounded with, specifically at work, specifically maybe Madeline Brand. But I felt like we were doing a lot of stories that were sort of from a perspective of a chip on the shoulder of la, which is not something I expected. But because of that perceived like sort of. I was gonna say Second City. They should call LA the Second City. Luke, I'm having an idea here. But Second City, it was like I felt like we were. I remember we had Moby on an interview to actually talk about the topic of like why there's so much hate for LA from people in New York. It sort of felt like LA couldn't. Or least the people I was talking to. There's this whole thing about like not being able to get over the fact that people looked down at LA if they were in New York, sort of. And that's what. I'm having a little bit of trouble describing it. Not even. But I think you're absolutely right. I don't. And I think this is kind of part of that dialogue. I don't think people in LA are like, oh, New York sucks. I think LA is a little bit more like, LA is awesome. And it's in a kind of. It sucks that people in New York think we have some sort of a rivalry or that they look down on us or whatever. Which is the kind of media I grew up on. You know, you watch those, you watch any. I mean, I probably watch too much Woody Allen or whatever in my, in my, you know, early 20s or whatever. But like there's, you know, a huge narrative of New York based movies is just like those, those fruits and nuts and crazy traffic. People in Los Angeles, right?
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Luke Burbank
Yeah, like L A story even. Even though that is about L A But, you know, it's like everyone's. I remember watching that movie, I feel like at the Oak Tree Cinema near your beloved stars. But it could have been somewhere else. I think I saw that with my friend Peter Williams and maybe like his parents, because it just seems like a weird movie for us, for us to choose to go to. Except it had Steve Martin in it, which is like, you know, it was like, well, we like the Jerk. But anyway, I remember seeing that movie and I think Sarah Jessica Parker's character is just like such a kind of a classically sort of out there, kind of silly Los Angeles person.
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Andrew
Rollerblader I think I could be making that up. But she seems like she has that rollerblade energy.
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Luke Burbank
Big B, R, E, big rollerblade. Is rollerblade one word energy. You know? Another part of this area that I actually love more than I would have thought, Andrew, is Glendale, California, where I was yesterday watching them film that show Office Hours Live. And I mean really and truly, like when I was living in la, I didn't, I liked Eagle Rock, I liked Atwater Village, I liked what I considered to be the sort of like hip suburbs, hip exurbs. I didn't give Glendale a ton of thought. And when they told me we're going out to where Heidecker actually lives and where they have this adu, that's where they film the show, I was like, oh, Glendale, that's interesting because again I feel like to me Glendale was just not as like quote unquote cool as if you can describe a whole city or neighborhood in one way like that. But man, it's lovely out there. And he's got, let's just say, kind of got my dream house and kind of got, I wouldn't say my dream set up because I loved getting to do this show with you, Andrew, but it was very interesting for me to be. Remember a couple of weeks ago I was apparently I'm on the like I'm now the podcast reporter for CBS Sunday Morning because I was out at the offices and studios of the my favorite murder podcast people. And that was one whole kind of thing just the like how professional that looked like with they had a really nice built out building and there was a lot of snacks and a lot of people walking around doing important seeming things like they're building the My favorite murder folks I think it's called exactly right media. That felt like NPR west to me. Just like all of these glass cubed studios and offices and you know like that kind of polished cement floor that tells you that you're in a cool future looking industry. That was that vibe. This was totally different and this was so much more like TBTL because I literally do my half of TBT usually from the Madrona Hill studio. And that's where they're doing the show from, from Tim's house. Just the, the drops, the how much that show relies on just audio drops and stuff as we do on our program a lot of the time at least at the beginning of the show and just kind of like the sense of humor, the, the, the all the people that were there. It just, it felt to me like and this is going to sound like I'm. I'm. I'm being wistful or I'm being kind of like, I'm sad about tbt. I'm really not. But it was like. It was like tbtl, but just on steroids in some way. Like, it was so similar to what we do, except just with so many more people involved and such a bigger production. But it felt like it had similar DNA to our show, if that makes any kind of sense. Like, the kind of DIY ness of it and the kind of, like, in certain ways, just the whole energy of the show was really fun to get to watch. I was also very nervous because I was, in a small way, part of the show. I did not realize I was gonna actually be, like, on camera sometimes. Like, that wasn't. I was just there to watch them do the show because I'm a fan or at least I'm interested in the show. But then afterwards, I was gonna sit down with Tim Heidecker and interview him about this thing, which is that, you know, he's gonna be sort of the creative director of Infowars, which is Alex Jones's old website. So that was really the point of the interview. It's not really about this show called Office Hours Live that he does. But then when I got there and I sat down, I realized, oh, I'm actually kind of part of the show in a very small way. So of course they, like, turn on the camera. One of the things is, like, one of the guys that works on the show is named Luke Burba. So I was sitting right behind him. He has the same first name as me and the same last name, minus two letters.
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Andrew
Sounds like a wordle clue. Or not wordle. It sounds like a connections clue.
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Luke Burbank
If you took the last two letters off of my name, we would have the exact same name, which is just, like, a very bizarre sort of coincidence. But Heidecker was clearly struggling with it because he kept saying. He kept trying to remember my name, but calling me Luke Burba, but then calling me Luke Burbank, but then asking me my thoughts on Barry Weiss and this is happening on the show. And I'm like, let me. Let me be. Let me be judicious. Let me be diplomatic in. In how I'm coming off. But I was also trying to be fun.
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Andrew
You were miked up. That's. I got a note from a listener. Somebody had texted the line, said, hey, it was good to see Luke on Office Hours Live. And I was like, oh, okay. So I knew you were visiting, and Then I put it together, I was like, oh, yeah, they must just have. I mean, Luke, not unsimilar to the first time Veeves and I visited you at TBTL at Cairo Radio. We didn't know you, we hadn't met you yet. But like, yeah, we were still at some point, like, we were like, just talking to you, I think, off mic or whatever. Just like, well, you're sitting here, I'm going to talk to you, right? Like, so I was like, oh, they must just sort of do the same thing. And the camera caught you or maybe they were even focusing on you. I didn't realize that they were actually talking to you, though. So at some point, did somebody put a mic on you or was it just sort of like off mic kind of sound?
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Luke Burbank
The Luke Burba had like a. Like, in fact, you could say, I guess, coincidentally, the very mic I'm talking to you right now into kind of like a Sennheiser handheld mic with a green little, you know, windscreen pee popper on it. That's what I'm using.
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Andrew
He has the green wind popper too. Or the pea popper too. That is. Wait, this is weird. Are you sure this wasn't part of an elaborate prank? That is literally the microphone. I have photos of you using that microphone out in Australia. It's like, it is very noticeable, the green windscreen on that thing.
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Luke Burbank
That's exactly the mic that they have for if, like, if Tim or somebody in the main room is addressing someone in the control room. They cut to this. They have like a million cameras going. And one of them that's just clipped on top of one of the computers in the control room is they were joking about it off air that it's just like a very old Microsoft, like, you know, webcam that you would, like clip to your monitor or something. They were like, only the finest, you know, for the control room. And then they just have like a handheld mic that can't really be passed around because the, you know, the cord that it's on is too short. So Heidecker says something to me and then the other. Luke, Luke Burba hands me the microphone that I'm very familiar with the appearance of because it's the same kind I use on the road. And I'm holding it, but I have to kind of hunch over because I can't actually pull it all the way to where I am. So I'm both like, I'm trying to seem cool and funny. I'm trying to not tick off my bosses in New York or whatever. I'm also not able to pull the microphone fully up to my mouth. And then when they've moved on and I give the mic back, the other Luke goes, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you, the mic cable is way too short. Sorry about that. It's like that kind of stuff, which also just feels very TBTL in a way. I mean, again.
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Andrew
Well, what did you say though? I'm very interested in like, because you even mentioned on the show the other day, you're like, I don't know, there's all this stuff swirling around CBS and Barry Weiss and 60 Minutes and all of that. And you're like, we haven't talked about on the show. Because I don't really know what to say about. I don't haven't formed any opinions. I'm doing my job. And just like, you know, when I form opinions, you guys will be the first one to hear it. Now you're suddenly unprepared to be going on something that has a, even a slightly bigger footprint than our show. I would say a bigger reach than our show.
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Luke Burbank
Just barely.
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Andrew
And suddenly Sudd Heidecker is putting a microphone in your face, asking you to like crack wise about Barry Weiss. How can you tell us more about that? I mean, it's out there, I assume.
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Luke Burbank
Well, the, yeah, the ope. Yeah, well, so he literally opened his show saying like, it's a big day for us. CBS Mornings is here, which is not the name of our show, but that's okay. And then he's, you know, because he's just riffing, it's not scripted or anything. And then he said something about Luke Burba's here, Luke Burbank's here. And then said something like, he's gonna do that hard hitting Scott Pelley interview with me or something, who's the last person that you interviewed. And then they hand me the mic and I'm like, I literally can't remember anyone I've interviewed ever in my life. You know what I mean? Like, my mind goes completely blank because I was not, you know, if I, if I had had five minutes to think about it, I could have come up with a quippy answer. But instead I just completely blanked. And I think I said something like, I go, well, I go, I'm pretty excited to be here. I am going to be interviewing Keith Urban next week. Not to brag. And then Tim Heidecker said, andrew, wait for it. He said, what about Keith Rural? That's the joke that you made on the show the other day. And said, feel free to use that one around Heidecker, I think. Or no, you said, feel free to use it around Keith Urban.
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Andrew
I actually wanted you to get to the bottom. I wanted you to ask. Yeah, Keith Urban. About that.
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Luke Burbank
I'm starting with Hitboy and what the deal is with him, and then I'm going to move on to figuring out Keith Urban's name.
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Andrew
Really quick thing. Just to go back to it really quickly. I looked up Hit Boy before while we were talking about it. You might be surprised to hear he has produced a lot of hits. He really has. He has produced, like, one of my favorite, like, Watch the Throne songs that I can't say the name of here because Jay Z. Jay Z.
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Luke Burbank
Is it N Words in Paris?
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Andrew
Exactly. He apparently produced that. He's produced like, it would be funny
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Luke Burbank
if that was the song you were comfortable saying it was like a totally different track. I.
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Andrew
No, I didn't want to say a Whitey, don't go there. But no, I. Anyway, it's funny. He really is Hit Boy. But yeah, that. That is funny. I've been slipping Tim some notes. I was just kind of like, listen, I've worked with work for a long time. I know what tickles Luke's fancy. Try some of these jokes on him. Yes.
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Luke Burbank
So he made the same joke as you. He said, what about Keith Rural or something? And then they moved on pretty quickly. That was. That was my first little. Getting sort of introduced. And then, you know, again, completely freezing up when he asked me, like, who. Who was the last person you interviewed or something. And. And so then things moved on. The other Luke said, oh, yeah, sorry, the mic chord is too short. I forgot to tell you. It's like, okay. And then we're just watching the show, watching the show. And then they take a break. The show is two hours long, goes from 10am until noon west coast on. Typically on Thursdays, but. But they recorded yesterday because of some travel that Tim Heidecker has to do, which I thought, well, that also reminds me of a TBTL thing, like recording something on a slightly different time window because of some kind of a conflict we have. But then as they were getting close to the break, they take a little break at 11am Then they decided, I can't remember why, but to, like, talk to me again and say something like, I forget. Tim said something to me like, you know, so what do you think of Barry Weiss? Or how's it. How's it working for Barry? Or whatever? And I said, that sounds like a really great topic for the second half of the show because, like, we knew we were going to the break. And then they. Everybody kind of laughed. And then he asked me one more like, extremely pointed question and I said another excellent second half of the show topic, and everybody laughed. And then that got me off the hook. So I didn't actually say anything in any particular direction. And then that was it. And then they did go to the break. And then so I was really. I was on very, very briefly for like two moments of the show. And I don't think I exactly hit it out of the park, but I also didn't really, you know, I don't think I embarrassed myself. I think, I think realistically I was a non factor in the show that nobody would ever remember being on there, which is fine with me. That's better than. I tried to make a joke and it really didn't land, you know, and
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Andrew
that would have been the worst that that would be like, to walk away from that feeling like, oh, God damn it, like, why'd I say that thing? I was hoping, by the way, that the second time you said great question for the second half of the show would have been in the second half of the show that. Because I thought that maybe it was like they went to break, they came back, you're in the. That would have been a very show. And then you're like, that would have been. That's a great question for the second half of the show. But no, I. But what excites me most about that story is that idea of just like, oh, well, we have somebody in the studio here. Let's not ignore them. Which was something that I'm pretty sure was like a very. That was something that felt very TBTL to me when I was new in the TBTL verse, you know, TBTLA verse. What do we call it? The ten of us, whatever. And, and, and I love that. And Cairo too. I feel like there was a little bit of that with Ca Cairo radio to just even hosting the talk shows. They are just kind of like, well, we have so and so here. Like, we might as well. Or the one time, like, I think like the. Some sheriff called me during a segment because I. They felt like I had represented a. Some sort of litigation. They had a different take on it or whatever. And it's like, okay, well, yeah, I, you know, put them on the line, you know, and it wasn't like, it wasn't super confrontational, but it was just kind of like, yeah, this thing is just sort of happening and we're sorry I'm having a thought here. I just heard something on the radio yesterday.
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Luke Burbank
Never apologize for having a thought, Andrew.
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Andrew
Well, I tried to spread them out, Luke. I already had one earlier today. Yeah. What are we going to do tomorrow? No, this is something that I just know that you'll agree with, but I was listening to one of the sports radio shows that's sort of constantly on in the background on my little AM radio in the kitchen on 710 ESPN, and I can't remember which show has Maura as a producer, and clearly the person who calls and sets up the guests as well. I think that might be Brock and Salk. And so you hear her. She's on the microphone for some segments or something. But what perked my ears up the other day was the guest said. They asked the guest a question on the air and the guest said, oh, yeah, well, I was just telling Morrow when she was dialing me up or whatever. And that small little thing of the guest acknowledging that, yeah, I'm here on a radio show and your producer Maura called me up, and I was just talking to her about that before you guys put me lined up on the air, like, somehow that very small. And it might just seem obvious, it might even not seem worth mentioning here, but having cut my teeth on public radio, where you just never used to. You don't do it at all. Mostly on public radio, but now there's sort of like kind of a little play acting, like they pull back the curtain, but it always feels a little fake to me. Whereas in commercial radio and stuff like this, it's just literally like. Yeah, it adds a dimension. It adds another sort of layer of, like, the listener can just sort of get a more global sense of the operation in this very casual, almost seemingly unprofessional way.
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Luke Burbank
Yeah, that's definitely the energy on Office Hours Live of, like, anything that's happening. Anyone who's in the room or near the room could be pulled into it. I mean, it really felt to me like a morning radio show. And in fact, later when I was talking to Tim about it, just like, not as part of the interview, but just casual. It's like you're basically doing a morning show. He's like, yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, I just love morning radio, you know, like, good morning. He's a big Stern fan as well, and just like this idea that everything is fair game to talk about, and there's, like, the curtain is so far pulled back now. The reason I said that I had it was so the two guys that play most of the drops on the show. Well, really the play, pretty much all of them are. It's a guy named Vic Berger who also just does like incredibly hilarious and weird like short form video stuff all the time.
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Andrew
He was, wasn't he the, the kind of the, the editor on awesome Job, Great show or whatever?
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Luke Burbank
I think he was one of them and I think he was. Yeah, definitely. And he's had a few different like websites and things and stuff that I've like, follow I'm following on Instagram now. And it's also just like the 10 funniest things I've seen the last three days have been on Vic Burger's Instagram, you know, because I started following him three days ago. But like he is playing Drops. There's another guy named DJ Doug Pound who's playing Drops and they're using Farago. Andrew. They're using the program that I use to play my little Drops. And in fact at one time I heard the. I don't, I don't know if I can play it right now because I'm kind of, I'm on the road here. But like I, I'm listening to them do Office Hours Live and I hear this. They use the same stock dog bark from Farago.
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Andrew
Oh, did that come from. I don't think I knew that.
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Luke Burbank
It's preloaded. So like. And then I was just hearing drops that they were just playing randomly and I would recognize them as being like, oh, that's, that's a. That comes with Farago, doesn't it? And so then we went to the little. When they did the break or whatever, I was just like, all I wanted to do was geek out with these two guys about audio drops and about like, you know, just the systems that they use and how they organize them and everything. And like I don't think there's. There's probably four people on earth. Well, no, there's probably like five who even know what Farago is. It's. It's you. Because I talk about it. Me, Vic Berger, Doug Pound and the guy who invented Farago. I think that's pretty much the list. So like. But then when I say I had drops envy, it was. I was envious of the fact that they have two people whose full time job it is while the conversation is going on to be constantly firing drops and like really weird shit too. Like just the sound of people eating. Just like a musical. Like just that. Carry On My Wayward Son from the Kansas Song. Then they had a guy, a third guy who's I Think he's a, a musician named Machine Drum. He was there with a laptop and what he was doing was live making drops out of Tim Heidecker and everyone else in the moment. So Tim Heidecker had said at some point, go off King just casually on the show. And then about, I'd say 20 seconds later someone says something, something you just hear go off King. This guy was like pulling down audio from the show, turning it into drops and then just playing it. And it was the funniest thing I had ever heard. And I was just like, God, that would be so cool if we had an operation, Andrew. We could have like two people just like whizzing, whizzing smokers at us, just whizzing drops like it was what it felt like was like if I could think of my dream version of tbtl, it would be basically what they were all doing there. And maybe someday we'll get to that. Who knows? And I'm pretty happy with how things have turned out, but. Whereas when I was at the my. My Favorite Murder podcast, I was impressed by it, but that's not what I want to do. I don't want you and I to be doing a murder podcast.
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Andrew
Yeah, I thought about the conversation we had about that and like I maybe came off a little self righteous in that conversation. But like, I think now that you visited another podcast, I feel like this is exactly what I'm talking about. You looked at the My Favorite Murder people and you said, wow, this is successful. And then you said, this is what I want. And that's what I was challenging on you. I'm like, really? Is that what you want? And because it doesn't sound like the types of things that bring you joy, it's just nice to be successful. Whereas this is both successful and the type of thing that brings you joy.
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Luke Burbank
Yes, that's exactly right. This is. And by the way, I don't know how, I don't know what the economics of it are exactly. Like, I know it's really popular with a lot of the people that you and I are friends with online. Our friends like Hauser AKA jdog and other people. Our friend Cassie Chattelane gave, gave. Smashed the like button when I put a post about on Instagram. So it's like the funny people that we know and like and the comedy nerds. I feel like it's a big deal in their world. I wonder. I mean, I don't think that they're all doing this just for kicks. I'm sure that it is Profitable. But it's hard for me to get a sense of exactly the. I think it's probably. I think it generates less money than my favorite murder podcast.
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Andrew
But I.
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Luke Burbank
But I.
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Andrew
But I mean, my favorite murder has to be one of the most popular, right? It's got to be. Have consistently been in the top five.
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Luke Burbank
Probably. I think it's probably one of. Yeah, I would imagine it's one of the more profitable outfits going. But you're right. This was what I was observing yesterday was like my dream version of our show. It's you and me. We're in the same room. There's like. But there's like a bunch of other people that work on the show. But everybody is, like, fun and in on the joke and like, there's just like, sound effects are being played and we're just kind of creating this big fun, you know, this big fun kind of like two hour sesh. Like, you know what I mean? It was like, it was really. It was really, really up my alley. And to answer the question, because the other thing I've said about this show, Office Hours Live, every time it comes up on our program, was I was never sure if I understood what was going on with Tim Heidecker as the host of it. And so I was asking him about that, like, after the show. Again, we were just. I think we were filming at this point, but it's not anything that we're gonna use in the TV story. But I was like, how do you think about this character that just. Are we just seeing you? Are you just being yourself when you're hosting Office Hours Live? He's like, I would never talk to somebody in real life the way that I talk to people on this show, he says, or it would take a lot. Which checked out because, by the way, he was so nice and so friendly and so not like at all being weird or kind of like, you know, I don't know. He was very earnest in a good way. Like, he just was, you know, it just really. He was just really inviting and kind and nice and not being, not trying to be like now on air, when he's, like, asking me about Barry White, he is kind of messing. Or Weiss. He's kind of messing with me. It would have been great if he asked me about Barry and it was Barry White. What do you think about Barry? Oh, my new boss. No, no, no. The can't get enough of your love babe guy. But so it was interesting because when he was on the air as the host of Office Hours, he's Kind of being a little bit like, he's just playing this character of, like, a. A talk show, maybe a morning radio jock who's kind of like a little dismissive of other people, who's kind of dismissive of the callers if they're on a bad phone line or whatever. He's kind of doing this sht. And he was doing that to me a little bit on the air, you know, putting me in kind of a weird position to ask me about CBS stuff, knowing I'm from cbs, but then off the air, totally different. So that, for me, solved that question and made me then, like, really, like, really, like, what's happening on Office Hours Live. Because I was able to realize that, oh, that's he's doing a character that's not him exactly. That's not who he really is. It's him amped up for entertainment purposes. And so that gave me a category to file it under, and then made me like, I think I'm gonna become kind of a regular viewer of the show now. I mean, having been there, you know, and kind of get. Just getting a view into what's going on there. I'm. I'm feeling very. As if you can't already tell. I'm feeling very attached to this whole thing now. Office Hours Live.
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Andrew
Did you ask him what was wrong with his microphone stand at the beginning of his standup special? Like, he really seemed to struggle. And I've always. I always thought if I had a chance to ask him, I would love to know, like, what was going on. Was the stand broken? Do you know what I'm talking about? Did you ever watch that stand special? Came out during the pandemic, which was what made it especially special to me. I think a lot of people have some sort of content like that. Sorry to use content in that way. I feel gross just saying, but you know what I mean? Whether it was the Tiger King documentary or the Michael Jordan documentary, which I didn't watch, or for me, like, I like the little personal ones. For me, I dug into the archives of CNN and rewatched that documentary about the royal family. Do you remember that? It was like something.
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Luke Burbank
Yes, that was a weird time.
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Andrew
That was a weird thing. Or that I was ironing napkins watching that.
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Luke Burbank
And that we all processed the pandemic in different ways.
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Andrew
Was it John Boyes documentary about the Mariners? Anyway, we all have our little things that we attach to that time of our life, right? And one of them for us was the Tim Heidecker Stand Up Special, which he released I believe for free on YouTube. And I think I watched it not live, but the day that it dropped. And Genevieve was in the other room. And Genevieve is a huge fan, like, just a huge fan of his, as am I. But, like, I think Genevieve almost has like a. Maybe like a. I don't know, almost like a fascination or something. And. And so I put it on, and she's in the kitchen. And the first. I'm gonna say, I don't know, four minutes, which is a really long time. He just comes out, tries to grab the mic stand. The mic stand falls over. He goes to pick. It's just four minutes of physical comedy.
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Luke Burbank
Leather Jack.
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Andrew
Yes. Because he's playing this char of kind of being like this kind of like. Kind of like. What's the word? Like, kind of jaded, slightly toxic white male. Like, stand up. He's definitely doing a character in that, but it's. I don't know. I was going to say it's a little bit more subtle. It's not like he's just straight up doing a straight on parody of who was the guy from the 80s who wore the leather jacket?
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Luke Burbank
Dice clay.
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Andrew
Yeah. He's not like, doing a straight up dice clay. It is more subtle than that. Yet it's hard to explain how you can do that subtly when the first bit of your act is, like four minutes of just going to grab the microphone and having it fall, and then you're just wrestling with it and getting more and more kind of angry at the universe around. You can see it's pissing him off and that he wants to blame somebody else for it. And I remember Genevieve's like, so you started it? And I was like, yeah, I started it. We can go back. I'm like, I don't know if it's going to be for you. Like, it is. Let me just say that, like, so far, it's nothing but him, like, wrestling with a microphone stand. She's like, just put it on. So I rewind it to the beginning. And I don't know if I've ever heard Genevieve laugh so hard and so long before or since she watched that she was in tears and talk about me not being able to read what I thought Genevieve would find funny. Like, she. If I play, all I have to do is mention that scene of Heidecker, the physical comedy. Cause you don't think of him as a physical comedian, right? But, like, just the physical comedy of him trying to grab a microphone stand and then just being so foolish and knocking it over a hundred times. In a row will just bring her to tears.
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Luke Burbank
I also had this strong sense of kind of wanting. And I don't do this normally, but, like, particularly as Vic Burger Guy, I almost wanted to, like, send him our show or be like, you should listen to this. You would like this. And, you know, that is not how I roll. Like, I'm generally speaking, very embarrassed about this lifestyle of doing a daily podcast. And, like, I'm shy about it. But there was something about the audio drop thing. In fact, I was, like, telling Vic, I was like, I go, I think my current favorite drop is Tom Brady saying, I hate you because you're different. And then I was like, I want to send this to him. And then maybe he'll play it. Like, which is funny because people send us drops. Like, I. It was just. It was a. It was a. It was an interesting experience because I both liked it so much out there, and I liked everybody so much, and I wanted to be kind of. I guess I wanted to be part of it a little bit. But also, I just, like, was like, I do. I kind of do the same thing with my friend Andrew. And, like. And that was when I did get the strongest reaction from Vic and Doug Pound was when I told them that, oh, yeah, I do a daily show with my friend and we did like the 4000th and 700th episode or something today. They were like, what? So I did get to flex that a little bit. But. But, yeah, so that's the update from my. My big trip to Office Hours Live and talking to Tim Heidecker, which. Oh, the other thing too was, you know, they're taking over. The Onion is taking over infowars.com that was the website that Alex Jones had. And what I was really surprised by was talking to Tim Heidecker about how, like, how genuinely upset set he was about what Alex Jones did to the Sandy Hook families. Like, you know, he's really, like, it is really, really mad about that. And he really, really wants to, like, do something good with this website, which, you know, any money that's generated from it, as far as merch and stuff goes, it's all going to go back to the families. He's basically saying that it's going to become like, he said there's a lot of really funny stuff on Instagram and Tick Tock and all these places. There's not really one central, like, location for really funny video stuff. And that's what they want in fours to be. He kind of wants it to be like, he says he's hoping that in 10 years nobody will remember that it used to be associated with Alex Jones. It'll be like a funny website that people like and that they'll be like, someone will be like, do you know that how this thing started? Like, that would be kind of his dream. He doesn't want to just be on there doing an Alex Jones impression for the next 10 years. The other thing he said that I
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Andrew
thought was more like he used it to erase. Alright, Alex Jones.
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Luke Burbank
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. And he said that he and his wife found out that. That she was pregnant with their first child the day that the Sandy Hook stuff happened. And that he has always. Not that he was trying to center himself in the story and he even said that in the interview, but it's like there's something about his, you know, him having this moment of new life in his family and this awful, awful, incredible, unimaginable tragedy in the lives of these other families. These were just connected ideas in his mind. And he's talked to the Sandy Hook families and he's told them this and he's talked about what the plan is for the website. So that was like a moment of like real sincereness from him that I guess I was not. I wasn't expecting or something. Like he was a pretty sincere, pretty, like, you know, likable, but fairly serious guy, particularly about this stuff.
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Andrew
Yeah, I believe that. Hello and welcome. Welcome to Top Story.
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Luke Burbank
All right, before we jump into the Top Stories, Andrew, I was under the impression that we had read all of the dazzling donor messages that had been submitted and that we were now cruising until the next Thawne, but that is apparently not quite the case at all.
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Andrew
It's not quite the case. Can I tell you a story? Can I tell you.
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Luke Burbank
Yes.
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Andrew
I mean, it's a story, but it's really an allegory. Luke.
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Luke Burbank
Oh, man.
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Andrew
Do you remember when I lived in the Roosevelt neighborhood of Seattle? My favorite bar was Teddy's. And I spent a lot of time at Teddy's.
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Luke Burbank
And I would say it's still in your top five. You probably don't go there as much.
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Andrew
I just. Yeah, I mean, it's still a great bar. I just don't find myself going there all that often. Except for maybe after, after a Mariners game, I might stop off the train there or something, say hey to the old gang. But it really was like my like true definition of a neighborhood watering hole. I became friends with a lot of the folks there and including the bartenders. And they had a jukebox at Teddy's and they also had bartenders who very much liked their own music. And they had like a, like probably like a, I don't know, 12 hour long playlist that I found very comforting. And they didn't mind if you played the jukebox. But sometimes when somebody would start the jukebox, I'd see the bartender like kind of roll his eyes or get a little bit huffy or whatever, but like, what's wrong? And the thing is, what I learned was it wasn't about playing the jukebox that bummed the bartenders out. It was when somebody would interrupt their playlist and then just play one or two songs off the. Off the jukebox. And then there'd be like a long pause, then it'll go back to their music and then it would interrupt another song and it'd be like the herky jerky nature of it. So when I was there, if I decided I am going to make the leap and I'm going to rock the jukebox tonight, I like saying rock.
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Luke Burbank
Don't rock the jukebox. I want to hear George Jones.
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Andrew
This has really stuck with me in any bar I'm at now. If I decide I'm gonna go and use the touch Tunes or the AllMusic
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Luke Burbank
app or whatever, the All Rain Dogs front to back, including some European stuff that was not released here.
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Andrew
Spare Change got rained on with his own 38. Let's see, it's touch tunes or AMI play. That's the other one. Anyway, point is, if I'm doing that at a bar now, I make sure, like I'm in this. Like I'm gonna choose the first five songs mentally before I even put the first virtual dime into the the jukebox, right? And then I'm going to. And I'm going to keep it going for a while until I'm done. I'm not going to like, start the jukebox. Stop the jukebox. Start the jukebox. Stop the jukebox. Because it's too herky jerky. And that is what I would like to do in this final phase of the dazzling donor messages. I heard word from our friend John Sklaroff that another dazzling donor message has come in now. Right now. That is one surfing. That is one dazzling donor message that is sitting there waiting for us to read it. Now, we could have reintroduced the dazzling donor music and segment intro today and read this one and then just moved on with our lives. But then another one might come in on Wednesday of next week and then we're reintroducing that segment again. So with your blessing, Luke and the listeners, I'm going to hold this dazzling donor message and make this a final, final last call. I believe the first last call was in February and now in June, we're making the final, final last call. Any more dazzling donor messages? The doors are open. Send them in. If you no longer have that form in your inbox, email johnbtl.net right, that's it. Johnbtl.net don't put an H in the John.
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Luke Burbank
That's one I've been using.
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Andrew
Yeah. And send them in now. And then maybe we will have, we'll have a few more dazzling donor messages next week. How does that sound?
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Luke Burbank
That sounds great. Or if you just want to email John about the New York Knickerbockers. Yes, he will really want to have that. As I was, I was sending him videos from the hotel room of me watching his New York Knicks pull off that quite stunning comeback. And I want to, I want to say also for, you know, for every incredible comeback and make one fan base happy, it's very crushing for the other fan base. So if you're listening to San Antonio or if you're a Spurs fan, my heart goes out to you because that was must have been really, really tough. But man, for those Knicks fans like our John Sklaroff, that was a crazy night.
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Andrew
Luke, can I need to ask you about something?
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Luke Burbank
Yes, please. I'm very, I'm read in on this for once.
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Andrew
You and I talked very briefly about the NBA Finals, I think two shows ago or something. Right. Because I knew that the Knicks were in it and I think I knew, I'm guessing through you or maybe through a quick mention on the radio that it was, it's, it's a big story for several reasons, but it seemed like the biggest one early on was that the Knicks hadn't been to the finals in like a really long time. I can't remember if you told me that or if I heard that somewhere else. So that, that sort of put it on my radar.
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Luke Burbank
It hadn't won either.
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Andrew
That's the thing. I see. Okay. And so as somebody who like just said, like, I listen to a lot of sports radio just as background sound, but also I'm in Seattle, we don't have a basketball team. A lot of it isn't NBA related. And when it's the national shows, I literally just sort of, I keep the radio on, but I just, it just becomes background noise and I don't really pay that much attention to it yet. This time I feel like maybe it's because of all the Trump booing and the story around that and the Knicks losing that game and, like, because of the celebrities. I don't know why it was, but I felt like I'm just hearing more about it. I feel like this time where I feel like I'm just. Even to the modicum that I'm invested in the storylines, it's more than usual. And I was having that thought. I was like, is this happening all across America? Are people just more invested in the NBA Finals this time than usual? And I had that thought. And about three hours later, I came home from a quick walk with the dog, and I was surprised to see that Genevieve was in the basement. This was yesterday. Genevieve was in the basement watching our tv, and that's where she installed a over the air antenna. So if you want to watch anything that is actually over the air, you have to watch in the basement. But I was surprised. I come home, I'm like, what are you doing in the basement? She's like, oh, I just wanted to watch the end of the Knicks game. No, she didn't even say the Knicks game. She said, I wanted to watch the end of the basketball game. And I was like, what the heck? Like, Genevieve doesn't care about basketball. I don't care about basketball. There's never been a time in our life we've said, let's watch the end of the basketball game. And then I'm like, oh. And Viv says, yeah, they were. They were down by like 29 points and now they're coming back. And she said they. And I said, you're talking about the Knicks. Like, she didn't specify which team, but somehow I came in to see that Genevieve was turning on a basketball game to see how it ended. And that without saying which team she was talking about, I knew she was talking about the Knicks. I said, what is going on in the world? Like, how it is. This is way bigger than any other NBA Finals in recent memory. Right. As far as pop culture interest, I think it is.
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Luke Burbank
I think it's because it's the New York Knicks, who are maybe second only to the Lakers in terms of, you know, well known NBA teams. And also. Yeah, a team that hasn't. I think maybe it's been. I think maybe in 99, they played in the finals against the spurs, interestingly enough, and. And lost. I think that was probably back in the, like, Tim Duncan era. So it's been a long time. And they're in New York City.
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Andrew
That is such a good basketball name.
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Luke Burbank
Yes, that's true. You know, I don't think I even thought about that. But you're right. That's a very apropos name.
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Andrew
Will you ask Keith Urban about that?
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Luke Burbank
Hey, Keith. I have a question about Tim Duncan. So all that is to say, I think that the Knicks being in it is huge. I think the fact that Victor Wembanyama is this unusual player, even by the standards of a league that has a lot of tall guys. He's like. They said he was 75 last night. So you've got this guy who's like a head taller than everybody else on the court, which again, is insane because this is a sport where guys are seven feet tall pretty regularly, and he's really good a lot of the time. Somehow it's just. It's converged for me. The thing that helped, and I. I wasn't sure if I wanted to cop to this or not, but I guess I will. The thing that helped was so the New York Knicks won the first two games of the series in San Antonio. And that was very unexpected. And it was very close games. So they were leading 20 coming back to New York, and New York City was absolutely on fire for this team. Like, you know, the tickets were $5,000 a ticket. There were these outdoor watch parties everywhere. There was, you know, the. My mayor is Muslim. My what? My mayor is Muslim. My. I think it's like my banker. I think he said, my mayor is Muslim. My banker's a Jew. My Christian Dior Nixon 4. That was the, like, T shirt. That was the catchphrase that was going. This one dude literally just yelled this, this into a cell phone camera celebrating in New York City. And it became the like, rallying cry of the city, basically about the kind of the Knicks winning and also the multicultural aspect of New York City, etc. And the guy who was doing that, I believe was maybe a. A guy of, you know, Middle Eastern heritage. It just was kind of like this whole. It was just like a moment of peak New Yorkness. Like, oh my God, the Knicks are going to do this in four. We're all coming together. We love each other. Like, like. And that was when Andrew I said, I think that the spurs might win this series. Because what I know is that when all of the conventional wisdom is going in one direction, I cannot tell you how many times in sports it seems to not go the way that everybody thinks. And so on that Monday, I decided to, uncharacteristically for me, do a little para mutual betting on the NBA Finals. And I bet on the San Antonio spurs to win the series. And that was a crazy bet at the time because the Knicks had won the first two on the road. They're coming back to Madison Square Garden. They had, the Knicks had not lost in Madison Square garden for like 13 games or something. Like they were unbeatable at home. And I thought, I'm hearing this Knicks and for stuff I'm. Everyone just, you know, we got freaking Ben Stiller high fiving Timothy Shabladou on the, like. There's just too much, there's too much going in the Knicks favor for me to think that this is really going to work out. And so, so I did some betting on the spurs and sure enough, the spurs won that Monday night game. And what happened was my bet, because it may or may not don't come for me, everybody, but the bet was in a. Let's just call it a poly market. And so the way it worked, well
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Andrew
then it wasn't a bet. It was an investment in the future.
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Luke Burbank
That's right. Thank you, Andrew. I'm using the wrong terminology. It's an investment in our future. The investment is dynamic. So I'm watching the game. So if you were to do a sports bet, a typical sports bet where you went to like the sports book at Caesars Casino, you say, okay, I'm gonna put a hundred dollars on the spurs to win the NBA Series, the NBA Finals. And right now I'm getting back, I'm making three, I'm making three times my bet. Because right now the spurs are down 2 0. They are, you know, they're not expected to win this series. And so you're getting a lot of money. If they do it, it's an, it would be an unexpected outcome. And so, but, but what you would do if it was a typical sports betting thing is you would put that bet down. They would give you a receipt that's like, this is your ticket now. And then you just carry that around for the next week. And then depending on what happens with the series, you either go in and cash it out or you lose all your money.
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Andrew
The odds were locked in when you got the ticket, in other words. Right? Well, the way of putting it is, in other words, like, the line doesn't move once you bought your ticket. Like it's the value, the payout value on that is going the same the day you bought it as the day that, yes, you find out what the outcome is. Whereas with this, the, the line moves and your investment, I mean, that is I mean, I was joking, but that is the difference here is just like, no, if more and more people start, quote, unquote, investing in this outcome, well, then you're going to, it's going to devalue.
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Luke Burbank
Not legally. They literally call it your portfolio. They're trying to kind of make it look like it's like stocks or something, you know, but it's like, yes, you're exactly right. That was a very, very good description of how it works, Andrew, actually, because. So instead of that hundred dollars, you just either win your bet and you get your $300 later or you lose your hundred dollars. You're watching your hundred dollars. Every time the spurs are hitting a basket on Monday night, your hundred dollars is going up. It's like $101, $102. Because if the spurs win, they're getting closer to maybe winning the series. And therefore your bet on them, them is, is, is paying off. Also, if they start to lose, you see it go down, you're watching it go in either direction. And what you can do critically is you can also just sell it off at any time. You can just say like, okay, I've had enough. I'm gonna sell my hundred dollar bet. Because now it's 120. I've just made $20. Or it might go down to 70. And you're like, okay, I've lost enough. I'm gonna just, I'm gonna lose my $30. I'm gonna get out of this bet right now. It is, is very dynamic.
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Andrew
In a way, I was wrong about the way I was describing that, though I was wrong about something because I also thought that, I thought it was like a market, whereas if more. And maybe you know what this is, maybe this is maybe exposing me that I don't understand how markets work, just writ large. But I thought it was kind of like, well, if. If it looks like the tide is turning and it looks like the spurs start gaining more and more momentum, then more and more, quote, unquote, investors are going to jump on that bandwagon. And then the more people who are on that bandwagon, the less valuable it is. That's sort of what I was thinking as well, but it sounds like I'm wrong about that.
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Luke Burbank
I think what's happening is that the value of the people on the other side of the ledger is going down, and that's driving your value up. So the people that have the Knicks to win the series, they're watching their $100, you know, go down to $99 when it looks like the spurs are going to win game three. And I don't know if it's directly that money, but basically, like, the, the better that the. Because I had a bet on the spurs to win the series, the better they were doing on Monday, the more valuable my portfolio was for whatever exact market reason of that. Because, of course, it would be the opposite if there would be no upside to betting them and then them doing well and then it making my bet worth less money in. In the way that these poly markets worth but work. But here's the. Here's the major takeaway. On Monday night, I'm watching the game and I'm like, I'm. I'm. First of all, I made. Maybe I made the bet on Sunday, and I was just like. And then I was thinking about it on Monday and I was like, I didn't. I actually didn't really. I haven't really used these very much, these poly markets. I probably won't again. But, like, I think I didn't realize that it's not like a sports casino. In other words, I didn't realize that I could also just, like, sell my bet off if I wanted to. I think I thought I was stuck with it. And I was like, on Monday, I was like, that was kind of dumb. Why did I do that? Like, I had a hunch and I played my hunch, and now it's like, I'm just going to be really stressed out about this series. And also, I was kind of on a level. I was rooting for the Knicks because our friend John Skloff is a longtime Knicks fan. And, you know, I just. I don't know. I. I could. I. I also really like San Antonio. I like Greg Popovich. I. I like Wembim Nyama, sort of. Although he's becoming a little bit of a heel in this series now because he's done some of. Kind. Kind of pretty. Like, he's committed some pretty hard fouls on, like, Jalen Brunson, who's roughly a quarter of his height. So all that is to say I'm watching the game on Monday night, and I'm realizing, because I'm watching it and I'm looking at my little bet and at my investment, and I'm watching my investment kind of go up and down based on how the spurs are doing. And so by the end of the game, the spurs have won, and my bet has actually increased in value, like, you know, fairly significantly. It's, you know, it's gone up by a couple hundred bucks, and I'M like, wow, I could just to get all of this money back right now, plus the couple hundred bucks, and then just be done with this and then not be stressed about what's gonna happen the rest of the series. And so that's what I did.
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Andrew
Oh, good.
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Luke Burbank
I just said like, I was like, this is great. This is enough. Like, first of all, I was kind of sweating the initial decision to for some reason bet on this series when I know nothing about basketball anymore. And also this is like, amazing. I can actually just, I can quietly walk away with my initial amount that I had invested. And then also a little bit of gravy, a little bit of candy. As our friend Newman would say, rest in peace. And, and so I did that. But then that gave me like a what that basically does. It supercharged my Knicks fandom, if that makes any sense. Because what it meant was I had withdrawn, I had withdrawn my bet, which had a really big upside if the, if the spurs would have won the whole series. I basically, I took a safe, you know, I took a safe off ramp from this bet. I, I, I just said, you know, this is great. I'll take a couple of hundred bucks and I'll walk away from this and then I won't have any money invest. But then last night, when the spurs are up 29 points, Andrew, I am like kicking myself. I'm like, you, you scared fool. You like, they're like the Knicks. I mean, the spurs are not only going to win this game, they're going to win the rest of the series. This is not even going to be close. Like, if you would have just left your large bad idea bet in play, you would be rich right now. You could, you could hire 11 people to work on TBTL and play audio drops for you. This, you know, So I was like, in this whole weird thing of like, being kind of annoyed with myself that I had taken the safe out yesterday. So you can imagine that as the Knicks were roaring back, I was like. And then when they eventually won, I was both happy for the people of New York. I was happy for our buddy John Skaroff and other Knicks fans of the world. But I was really happy for myself that that was the right call. I was really happy I got out when I got out, because that little amount that I had made back on whatever Monday night, I mean, that whole bed of mine would have been torpedoed because now the Knicks are up three to one. They're, they're very much in the driver's seat of this series. And I would so this is. This is just really a story of me for once in my life making a prudent decision. I mean, I made an imprudent decision to bet on the NBA Finals, but then I made a prudent decision to get out of my bet on the NBA Finals.
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Andrew
What do you think happens with the series now? I mean, they're going back to Texas, right? So is there an advantage there? I don't. Again, keep in mind, I literally don't know anything about basketball.
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Luke Burbank
I think it'll still. I think it could still go to a game seven. Like, the thing is, when the spurs are playing well, which is. Has been a lot of this series, it's been most of the quarters of this series. It's just been that they've had kind of like they've made some really dumb decisions in critical moments. And I think game two, women. Yama threw like a turnover. He. He caused a turnover in the last minute, which really changed the course last night. I mean, they were leading by 29 points. It was the largest lead that any road team has had in the history of the NBA Finals. Like, it was over. And all San Antonio needed to do was just pass the ball inside to Wembanyama, have him just turn around and go to the rack and then either make the basket or get fouled. Instead, they jacked up like a bunch of three pointers. They shot like nine three pointers in a row at one point. I don't think that many of them went in. Like, they just. Just. They're a young team and they just sort of made some real blunders after they had played really well. But I think it remains that if they stick to their game plan, I think that they're an. Arguably, I don't know if they're going to win the finals, but I don't think that they're like. I think they're better than the Knicks potentially. This. This still may be the Knicks year, but my guess is that they will win the next game and then. So then it'll be three, two, and then I guess we'll see what happens. I could see them. I could see them winning the next two games at home and it being. Or I don't actually. I don't know if it goes back to San Antonio. I'm not actually clear on what the schedule is, but I would see. I could. I think this could go to seven games, believe it or not. Because you know what? Now it is. Andrew. It's like I'm just. I'm just an anti Pendulum guy. I think that's my entire theory of most things in life is. And you'll see this when we're watching the Seahawks and it's halftime and we're losing. I'll always be in the comments of our text chain being like, we're going to get some ball bounces in the second half. I just tend to feel like when the ball's bouncing away from you, it's going to eventually bounce back towards you. Like, it's going to regress to the mean. Whenever everyone's like, now the Knicks have this in hand because they just won this dramatic game last night. When all of the smart money is now on the Knicks, I start to think, well, I could see the spurs surprising some people. I don't know if that's a very interesting theory or if it's proven out, but it's clearly my theory of most cases. It's like, if everyone's saying one thing, like vaccines, if everyone's saying that we need to take these. I'm just saying, do we. Is this something that I might be able to research on my own and kind of find some insight on Andrew?
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Andrew
And if I do get it, should I get it in the back of the QFC on Holman Road or.
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Luke Burbank
Or should I go to a fancier neighborhood?
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Andrew
Yes, exactly. Like, I just do. I want to get my shot in the same place that has a P F Changs. That's what I want to know. Because my grocery store has both a pneumonia shot waiting for me and some General Tsow's chicken. You can get it all at the qfc. And I believe that there is a. Is there a Starbucks in there as well? It was funny you mentioned you're like, oh, I think you were for a second trying to figure out, like, kind of what the schedule is as far as, like, where the games are going to be played. If it does go to seven, it does go. It goes back to Texas for the next one. And then if necessary, it goes back to New York. And then, if necessary, it does go back to San Antonio.
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Luke Burbank
Game 7's in San Antonio.
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Andrew
Yeah. And so they do. And it's funny because this came up last night. I was asking Genevieve and I. So again, it was kind of funny. So I walk in the door and Genevieve's in the basement. And I ask her why? And I Remember there's literally 3 minutes and 40 seconds left in the game or something along the lines of that. She's like, I was on Blue Sky. So I've already talking about it. I Just wanted to catch the.
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Luke Burbank
Oh, that's what I wanted to know is what was the kind of impetus for her.
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Andrew
I think she was, like, scrolling. It's funny because she's not like on blue sky a lot, but I think she was scrolling on some sort of social media. And she's not on very much these days, so I'm assuming it was blue sky. And she said, I saw everybody talking about it, so I figured I'd turn it on, which was interesting. But then, of course, we start joking because first of all, it's. I see there's 3 minutes and 40 seconds left, and I'm not even sure if this is true of the NBA or if this is something that is more of a college basketball thing, but I'm like, oh, well, three minutes and 40 seconds, that's like. That's a long. That's a lot of programming to go, right? Like, the last few minutes of a basketball game are actually drawn out potentially to. What would it take, like, potentially 20 minutes, a half hour to finish off the last few minutes of a game? Because of all of the game clock management and stuff. Am I. Am I totally off my nut?
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Luke Burbank
It's not exactly like football because the clock doesn't stop.
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Andrew
I thought it was more so. I thought it was more like there because you can constantly. The teams are constantly drawing fouls to stop the clock. Stop the clock, stop the clock.
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Luke Burbank
I always thought maybe that makes it that. You know what? That might make it a. You're right. That might make it a coin toss. As far as I think of the. Somebody has studied this, I'm sure. I guess I think of the end of a football game as being the most ridiculous, ridiculously elastic amount of time and think of an NBA game as being a little more predictable. But you might be right because of all of the fouls and stuff. Maybe. Maybe the clock stops more than I'm thinking about with NBA basketball.
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Andrew
And it might. I might be thinking of college basketball too, because, again, I don't watch basketball, but the stuff I've been exposed to has been more of. I don't know. I'm in. I'm, you know, with somebody who is into the Final Four or something like that. So I've picked up some games there. I did watch a little bit of the Heat when they were in the.
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Luke Burbank
The.
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Andrew
When they were in. But that was the bubble year too, right?
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Luke Burbank
That was because Le Batard got you into the heat.
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Andrew
It was LeBatard and the pandemic. And so I think that it was
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Luke Burbank
just sort Of I wouldn't take off that Hassan Whiteside jersey.
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Andrew
I'm still wearing it. I sleep in it. Hasan Whiteside is. Or was. I'm looking it up on Wikipedia. Anyway, let's see here. What was I going to say? Oh. So I say to these. I'm like, oh, well, there's still. If there's like three and a half minutes left, like, this is. I'll sit down and watch some of this with you. And it did seem like, you know, we. I don't know how long we were in the basement, about 20 minutes, half hour, whatever. And. And we keep asking each other questions about how the game is played, and neither one of us know how the game is played. You know how you just naturally say, if you and I are watching a game, I'll just ask you a question like, why is that guy shorts longer than the other guys? Or whatever. And you might have an answer for me. And you would say, well, you know, back in the day, the shorts were actually much shorter, whatever. But, like, Genevieve and I are like a bird pecking at a mirror asking each other questions. And she's like, well, where does the game go after this? Does it go to San Antonio? I'm like, I don't know. Do they play every day? I said, why is there a space in between Monday's game and Wednesday's game if they're. If both games are in New York? And she said, I don't know. And I said, well, maybe it's because maybe it has something to do with the NHL playoffs happening at the same time. Maybe the leagues decided, like, alternate games. And she said, I don't know. And then she asked me something about, like, can you call a foul? I don't understand what that means. She asked me about that, and I said, I don't know. And then we started calling ourselves lifelong Knicks fans, of course, because we were.
- [71:08]
Luke Burbank
I mean, that actually might be a good show title,
- [71:12]
Andrew
I will say. And I can't. Of course, I can't remember the name of the player who tipped in that. That. That ball to actually a Nobel. What struck me was it was one of the. This is an audio engineering sort of point. The crowd was so loud in that moment that it. That all of the sound compressed. I don't know if you noticed that in the broadcast, but it was like, it got so loud that it got quiet. And that's sort of you. And I do that sometimes. I ask you to turn down your microphone a little bit when we're doing our sound checks, because if you get too loud, the compression kicks in and it starts. You can hear it. And it was amazing. It was so loud. It was quiet. It was like. It was like the final scene of Oppenheimer.
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Luke Burbank
I thought, by the way, it's Ananobi. Sorry about that. So this is only. I am only a slightly higher level bird Andrew pecking at the mirror myself. So this is like. I'm not much helping these things, but I thought that somebody was standing near the broadcast mic and was swearing because it kind of like glitched out. The audio glitched out when he hit that shot. And. And I. I thought it was like somebody was screaming and they had like hit the delay or something. That was my. My brain trying to figure out why the audio got so weird. At least here in my hotel room.
- [72:28]
Andrew
I don't think so. Cause it didn't go totally out. It just went like. It got so loud that I think compression like pumped it back down. The way that, like, if, you know, you have microphones picking up a certain amount of noise and you're. They're set in a certain way, but then if like a bomb goes off or something super loud, kind of like is out of the ordinary, then, and the compression kicks in, I'm pretty sure that's what we heard.
- [72:51]
Luke Burbank
Yeah. No, I believe you. I'm just saying I heard something weird and my brain was trying to write a story about it. The other thing too is it's like the thing with the Knicks is that on the one hand, and we just talked about this a while ago, you're kind of celebrity blind, and I have the opposite, which I don't like about myself. It makes me think that celebrity must mean more to me than I want to let on.
- [73:15]
Andrew
Nope, I don't think that's true. No, no, no. I actually think it's a really important skill. And I don. Think it's just about celebrity. I think that's one of the reasons you were able to have your job and not in Congress. You were not, as far as I know, a congressman, but like to cover Congress. The ability to recognize faces and immediately identify them with a name and some background information. I don't think you're just like that with celebrity. I think that that's a good skill.
- [73:38]
Luke Burbank
Okay, well, thank you for. Thank you for that. I legitimately appreciate it. Because what I was doing on Monday night when I was watching the Knicks was just like, like just yelling out the names of every famous person that I was seeing. And it was like Rahm Emanuel was there. Like, it's it's such a hot ticket and New York has so many well known people in it that like, there's a point at which the courtside seats, the seats that are surrounding the entire court are almost exclusively famous people. Like, you'll just be, it'll be Taylor Swift and the band Haim and then they're just like next to Larry David or something. And it's, you know what I mean? It's like, it's not like there's some celebrities at the game. It's like there's no one who's not a celebrity in the front row. And look, celebrities get to love their teams. They don't lose that privilege from being celebrities. And like, I like Ben Stiller a lot. He's, you know, this lifelong New York Knicks fan. He's of course, always on the sideline. You've got Chalamet there. There's something though about Timothy, like a nick hitting a shot. And, and by the way, I like Timothy Shama Chalamet too. Like, I think he's good at acting and I like seeing him in movies and stuff. But there's something about Timothee Chalamet yelling, let's go. Like he hit the shot that just is like, it's, it's a hard, it's a little hard for me to get behind. Like, it's like, it's like someone who already exists at the absolute apex of privilege, you know, again, self made. Like, I mean, Chalamet got to where he is because he's worked really hard and he's a very talented person and everything. Everything. But it's like, I mean, it'd be worse if it was Don Jr. Okay, so if it was, it was Donald Trump Jr. Yelling LFG. That would be, that would be the worst for me. But even so, it's like, it's like, you know, somebody who's just every. It feels like everything in their life has broken, right to the degree that they're like one of the, one of the, the valued few who get to be courtside for this. And then also this is working out for them. This is somehow in my mind, I'm not saying I'm not insane because I don't know why. These are the calculations.
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Andrew
No, no, I'm with you. Like, I had a little, I hadn't put it into words like that. And again, I'm not, I'm seriously not a Taylor Swift hater. But that was one of the first things I saw when I walked in the room. I was like, oh, there's Taylor Swift. And it was like they were, they were her and her crew. I didn't recognize that that was Haim. It was a pretty quick shot. But they, I guess they were all wearing shirts that said Stevie Nicks. That was both, actually.
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Luke Burbank
They were all plays. No, no, you're, you're, you're. You're partially right. She had a shirt on that said Stevie Nicks. Nicks spelled like the Knicks. But then the one of the other Haim sisters had one that said Nickelback. The Nick was spelled like the Knicks. And then I forget what the. They all had shirts on that were like a play on the word Knicks, but were slightly different.
- [76:22]
Andrew
I see. Okay, so, but like, I agree with you, like, when I see Spike Lee, I'm like, oh, that's cool. You know, like, that feels to me like true, true fandom that I've. I mean, again, as somebody who doesn't know much about basketball or basketball culture, I just, I feel like I've never known a time that he has not been in the stands of a Knicks game. You know what I mean? Going back to probably the late 80s, you know, so, like, I'm happy for somebody like him. Again, a man who is, you know, has reached the top of his. His own professional game and everything. But to me, that feels like that is a. That is a long suffering fan who has earned his place there. And I can't break down the other celebrities. It was so funny. I was trying to also, because I'm so bad at recognizing celebrities. There was a celebrity on the screen. I'm like, who is that? Who is that? And Genevieve said, that's Larry David. And the thing is, it wasn't that I was not, not recognizing Larry David. I didn't even notice Larry David because I was trying to figure out the guy next to him who was McEnroe. And I was like, oh, why is those two. And why is McEnroe and Larry David sitting next to each other at the game? So perfect. I noticed Seinfeld was in the crowd as well, but he was not with Larry David. Somehow McEnroe and Larry David do seem like a better couple. And is that something that we know about? Am I thinking of an episode of Curb youb Enthusiasm or something? Or is it just like, oh, yeah, two cranky old guys, Two cranky New
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Luke Burbank
Yorkers who get into it with people. See, McEnroe seems like the perfect guest star on an episode of Curb.
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Andrew
That's what I was racking my brain on.
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Luke Burbank
I can't Tell you if it's happened, but it feels like it should have been.
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Andrew
Yes, yes.
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Luke Burbank
You know, they seem very, very connected. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, I saw this online yesterday. I think that they might have had the person, the guy, I think his name is Avery Wilson, who sang the national anthem at Game three. Remember when they cut to Trump on the, on the screen and then everybody booed, I think they might have had him sing it for Game four. I'm not sure if that. Again, maybe. I don't know. I don't want to spread an Internet rumor. Rumor. Are you able to.
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Andrew
Is the idea because. Because of the distraction.
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Luke Burbank
Because he was unfortunately, yeah, like, he's just singing the national anthem while they're showing Trump. And so this is the person who had to sing the national anthem to a thunderous round of boos during their performance. That'd be kind of a pretty big bummer for them. So I had seen somewhere that they said that they had him back for Game 4, and I believed it. But now that I'm saying it out loud, I'm like, yeah, but who did they originally have scheduled for Game four? And that person must have been sad, too, if they lost the opportunity. Like, how do you tell them you're just not in. You're just not allowed to do it? Because we feel bad for Avery Wilson? I'd have to imagine those are, you know, those kinds of things are planned out pretty far in advance. So I don't know if they're trying
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Andrew
to figure it out. So I do see that it was Avery Wilson, the good luck national anthem singer, but I can't tell if that. Do you actually, I kind of lost the thread there for a second. So is Avery Wilson the person who sang definitely last night or definitely on Monday night?
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Luke Burbank
Definitely on Monday night.
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Andrew
Okay.
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Luke Burbank
You know, was the person performing the national Anthem when the booze reigned in for Donald Trump? And I had seen a CLIP ON Probably TikTok last night, somebody saying that they actually had had them back to sing it at the fourth game, so that there's not going to be booing during their performance.
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Andrew
I am seeing a clip online now that was posted 18 hours ago that says Avery Wilson performs the Star Spangled Banner at Game four. So that would confirm that. And also an MSN article that says Avery Wilson to return for Nick's game for anthem performance.
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Luke Burbank
So now that's good for Avery Wilson. But I'm also sad. I think it was Erica Kirk. Honestly, I think it's fine. I think it's probably okay at this point, there's a right way to rock and roll.
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Andrew
You can just listen to your song. Just remember that life is number one. You can be having so much fun. Just remember that life is much fun. You can be nothing but one. Did you tell Tim that we're using this for our Broadway music?
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Luke Burbank
I had two jobs when I came to Los Angeles. Figure out what the deal is with Hitboy and ask Tim Heidecker if we can use this song. And I failed on both counts. Not because I didn't feel comfortable. In fact, I wanted to. I had a plan once I realized he was a nice guy, to mention this to him really more or less compliment in a complimenting fashion. Like, hey, we like using right way to rock, wrong way to roll. I know that there's no way he can clear the rights for us, but I was really gonna tell him that. I just forgot.
- [81:18]
Andrew
Now I know you know this. And we mention on the show from time to time that little music that we play to introduce the Blurs day segment. First of all, it just occurred to me right now that there's a right way to rock. There's a wrong way to roll. That has nothing to do with birthdays. Well, how did we end up. How do we end up using that? But that is from the TV show, right? That's like Casey and his brother singing on Uncle Muscle.
- [81:43]
Luke Burbank
Uncle Muscles like fund.
- [81:44]
Andrew
I think it's like telephone or something. Right. And then. And that's what that's from. Right. And then we combined that with a different sketch that might have been like an online only thing or something of
- [81:54]
Luke Burbank
this music, which is also him.
- [81:58]
Andrew
Yeah, this is also Tim Heidecker, but I don't even know if it's from awesome show, Great job or what. But yeah, why. Why do we use it? There's a right way to rock to wish people a happy birthday.
- [82:10]
Luke Burbank
It's.
- [82:11]
Andrew
I have no idea.
- [82:12]
Luke Burbank
It's lost to time. I'm sure someone will email us. Somebody will email us the story on this.
- [82:17]
Andrew
Actually, we might even have a blursday recipient today who's the perfect person to do just that. Ooh. More on that in a moment. But first, let me tell people how they can wish a happy blursday to themselves or someone else. You can email me. My email address is andrewbtl.net there's no H in that. It's andrewbtl.net and put Blursday in the subject line and then write a short little mess wishing somebody a happy blurs day. Here's what Jody wrote. Happy 50th Blurs Day to me. I can kick, stretch and kick. I'm 50. I'm a certified brand new listener. Just over a year now.
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Luke Burbank
Wow.
- [82:56]
Andrew
That is a certified brand new listener. But you have become my favorite podcast and I listen to a lot of podcasts.
- [83:04]
Luke Burbank
Whoa.
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Andrew
This is really nice, Jody. Thanks for writing. Jody says, recently I decided to time bandit from the beginning. So I'm spending part of most days in 2020. I'm sorry, in 2008. Right now I feel so much kinship with the business boys. Reading Mary Oliver always makes me cry. Appreciate that, Jody. Also. Well, first of all, welcome, welcome, welcome to the Teniverse. Yes. And also if you're re listening from the beginning, let us know why we use why we use Casey and his brother singing. Right. Way to rock. There you go. You only have about what, I don't know, seven, eight, nine years before you get there. Lisa says her actual. Wait, her? Oh, I see. Okay. Lisa says her actual birthday was on Tuesday. So I want to wish a happy Blurs day month to Cheryl and Corvallis. One of the best things about being a 10 is the amazing friends you make. And Cheryl is one of my new nearest and dearest. I look forward to doing more TBTL related outings with you in coming years. I hope your Blurs day was filled with all the awesomeness and excellence you deserve. And chocolate also. Lots and lots tasty of chocolate. Happy birthday to Annie from Megan. May our shared wish of Andrew watching Dirty Dancing come true. I didn't pre read this one. May our shared wish of Andrew watching Dirty Dancing come true so the biz boys can discuss it on the show. Cheers. Well, what about you? Have you seen Dirty Dancing? Luke, why am I in the hot seat? Okay, this is. Okay, I tell you what I think I know about this movie.
- [84:46]
Luke Burbank
Yes.
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Andrew
So I want you to know that there are several dance movies that came out in the 80s and I get them all confused. And I know one of them has an older guy who's a doctor and dancing is banned in that town. And I want to say. And I want. Hold on. I know Kevin Bacon is in Dirty Dancing, right? Kevin Bacon is in Dirty Dancing.
- [85:12]
Luke Burbank
Nope.
- [85:12]
Andrew
Kevin Bacon is not in Dirty Dancing.
- [85:15]
Luke Burbank
No, Kevin Bacon is in the one
- [85:16]
Andrew
that you're referencing, the one with the doctor. And that's not Dirty Dancing either. Where it's outlawed in the town and somebody has.
- [85:24]
Luke Burbank
I can't remember. No, no, no. You're combining. You're combining Dirty Dancing in a different movie.
- [85:29]
Andrew
Okay, There's Flashdance. That's at a school. That's at a dance school. There's Flash dance at a dance school. And then there's the one with. I carried a watermelon. Dirty.
- [85:40]
Luke Burbank
Dirty Dancing.
- [85:41]
Andrew
That's Dirty Dancing. That's the one with. What's his name? Famously from Donnie Darko in Roadhouse, City of Joy.
- [85:51]
Luke Burbank
Patrick Swayze.
- [85:52]
Andrew
Patrick Swait. So Patrick Swayze is the Dirty Dancing one.
- [85:56]
Luke Burbank
Yes, Dirty Dancing, which, by the way, I think you'd actually like.
- [85:59]
Andrew
Okay, okay. I like Patrick Swayze a lot. And I like watermelons.
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Luke Burbank
I think you would like. You know how we talk about sometimes almost the film stock of a movie.
- [86:08]
Andrew
Yes.
- [86:09]
Luke Burbank
Just the look of a film. I think you would really like, enjoy the film quality of Dirty Dancing. It's basically the story of this young woman. Her nickname is Baby, and she's played by Jennifer Grey. And she and her family go to this, like, family vacation camp in the Catskills called Kellerman's, where Wayne Knight, who we did not see on the sidelines of the Knicks game last night, Wayne Knight is like. I think he's like. I don't know, he's the cruise director. He's the activity director or something. And he wears a hat, a Kellerman's hat that I've been trying to find for many years and still haven't. But anyway, her dad is played by Jerry Orbach of, you know, whatever you'd call it, like, Law and Order fame. And also of being Lumiere, the candlestick from the Beauty and the Beast movie, the cartoon.
- [86:58]
Andrew
Okay, so Orbach is in Dirty Dancing with.
- [87:01]
Luke Burbank
He's a doctor. He's a doctor.
- [87:03]
Andrew
I thought he was the one in the Kevin Bacon movie. Okay.
- [87:06]
Luke Burbank
No, that's. I think, John Lithgow, who's just like a real wet blanket who doesn't want there to be dancing in the town.
- [87:13]
Andrew
I'm getting those two guys confused. You're right.
- [87:16]
Luke Burbank
John Lithgow is both culturally a doctor and culturally from England, in my mind, even though he's from, I think, Ohio, technically Third Rock from the sun, which is planet Earth. I put that together years after that show went off the air. But anyway, I'm learning it today. So the Flashdance is a woman who I believe is working as a welder or in some kind of steel mill type of thing, thing, but also has a dream of being a dancer and. And does a, you know, and does some very cool dances. And the. What a feeling that big, like the Flashdance song. I think the video was set in, like, a. In an Old, like industrial factory where she's dancing and then this big thing of water unloads.
- [87:58]
Andrew
Yeah.
- [87:59]
Luke Burbank
I don't know.
- [87:59]
Andrew
Janet Jackson maybe did a video. No, no, no. There was a famous music video in the 90s that paid tribute to that.
- [88:06]
Luke Burbank
Oh, really? Okay. Oh, maybe Jennifer Lopez.
- [88:09]
Andrew
Maybe it was Jennifer Lopez.
- [88:12]
Luke Burbank
So Flashdance is obviously more of a blank spot, blind spot for me. I don't know a lot about. I don't think I've ever watched Flashdance, but I have definitely watched Footloose.
- [88:21]
Andrew
Footloose was the one that I couldn't think of the name. Everybody.
- [88:26]
Luke Burbank
Everybody.
- [88:27]
Andrew
Okay.
- [88:27]
Luke Burbank
And that, that one's Kevin Bacon. He comes to, he's like moves to this town. The town is very Bible belt and very no dancing. And he loves dancing and he wants to be able to dance. And he gives this impassioned speech in front of the city council where he quotes David danced in the Bible and he wins them over somehow. But Jerry Orbach, being a doctor is relevant in Dirty Dancing because the people that work at the Kellermans doing like leading the dance classes and all this stuff, there's basically the townies that work, work at the camp and then the more well to do people that are visiting the camp. Baby. She's part of the well to do class. Her dad is a doctor, Jerry Orbach, but she of course falls for Patrick Swayze even though he is a dance instructor at the camp and loves dancing, but is part of this kind of, you know, more working class, local community and somebody in that. I don't think Patrick Swayze, I don't believe is the biological. If you would say, say parent or is not the person who got this person pregnant. But somebody had an, an unsafe, non, I believe an unsafe abortion because it's not, it's not available. God, thank God that's changed here in 2026.
- [89:42]
Andrew
Okay.
- [89:42]
Luke Burbank
And Jerry Orbach comes and tends to her. So baby.
- [89:45]
Andrew
And that's okay.
- [89:48]
Luke Burbank
Baby has this real dilemma, which is she's been cavorting with and fraternizing with the help at the, at the, at the summer camp. And, and, and now she has to go to her dad and say, I know how you feel about, you know, me, you know, mixing it up with these, with these, you know, commoners. And, and you probably don't like me liking Patrick Swayze's character, but we need your help right now for you to come because someone has had an unsafe abortion and they are now in a really dangerous way medically. And he does, I believe. The thing is, Jerry Orbach Actually is, you know, he shows himself to love his daughter and to be more of, you know, taking his Hippocratic oath more seriously than any being mad at her or being in trouble. That's also the movie where famously, I think Patrick Swayze says, nobody puts Baby in a corner.
- [90:37]
Andrew
That's what that's from. When you said that's a reference to Baby. That must be what that's from. Yeah.
- [90:42]
Luke Burbank
And there's this great dance scene where it's like after hours. We're no longer doing the, like, Kellerman, you know, we're learning the cha cha. This is where the actual local town people who are all very good at dancing are getting together for their own special locals only dance night. And I believe Baby is invited to this. And she brings a watermelon. She carries this watermelon all the way up to this house where the dance is. And then later, when she's mad at him, she says, I carried a watermelon.
- [91:10]
Andrew
Oh, that's when she says that I always. Because I've heard that line so many times. And like, I don't know, like, literally every time Genevieve or I carry a watermelon, we say it. But I always thought. I always thought that that was. I thought that that was her making awkward small talk. I always picture her holding a watermelon, coming into a party, not knowing what to say, and then making awkward small talk and just saying, I carried a watermelon. But no, she refers to it later as in, I did this labor for you, and it brings up as a fight.
- [91:43]
Luke Burbank
You know, I don't know. Listen, here's where this is. I'm about to turn you into a real AI fan. I carried a water. This is the AI Overview. I carried a watermelon. It's one of the most delightfully awkward and iconic lines from Dirty Dancing. So they're calling it awkward.
- [91:57]
Andrew
That was. Maybe you're right. Why would I hear. I'm looking for the.
- [92:01]
Luke Burbank
I mean, I found the clip.
- [92:02]
Andrew
Okay. Should we just do it? I mean, look, I would say that even without me watching this movie, we have made Andy these blurs. Day dreams come true, right? I mean, we discussed it. We discussed Dirty Dancing and more. Do you want to play it?
- [92:17]
Luke Burbank
The phrase is spoken by the character Baby Houseman when she awkwardly crashes a secret. There you go. After hours party held by the resort's dance staff. Holding a large, heavy watermelon to contribute to the party. He tries to explain why she is there blurting out, I carried a watermelon. I always thought it was that she was mad at Patrick Swayze later in the movie and was like, I carried a watermelon for you. But no, it's more, I think, what you suspected, Andrew.
- [92:40]
Andrew
See, the teacher becomes the student.
- [92:43]
Luke Burbank
Yes, absolutely.
- [92:46]
Andrew
All of that is to say, happy Birthday, Annie, from Megan and baby and Jerry Orbach. Judy says I will be celebrating my 77th birthday today. That is a golden blursday by heaven. A wisdom tooth extracted. She's getting a wisdom tooth extracted today on her 77th floor state. The older we get, the more practically
- [93:15]
Luke Burbank
waited on that one, Jude.
- [93:16]
Andrew
We are. I will be having this done in the same small city where the power went out on a colonoscopy I was having. Yes, I'm that Judy. So while you are wishing me a happy birthday, wish me luck as well. Indeed, Judy. Happy birthday, Judy. And good luck. Luck.
- [93:34]
Luke Burbank
That's. I mean, you're. I guess, you know, my theory is the power can't go out again. I was talking about how I always think things regress to the mean. So it's like if the power went out once in that city while you're having a medical procedure, I think the chances are good that it won't happen a second time.
- [93:50]
Andrew
That's unless it's a city where the power goes out all the time. I mean, maybe they just have, you know, I don't know what the infrastructure.
- [93:55]
Luke Burbank
She in power outage, Vermont?
- [93:56]
Andrew
Yes.
- [93:57]
Luke Burbank
Where is she? Checking in.
- [94:02]
Andrew
Let's see here. Does this person leave their name? Yeah, here it is at the end. Okay, here we go. Hey, Aaron. Happy birthday, friendo. I'm so glad that we've become friends through tbtl. I hope you have a fabulous day and that all your birthday wishes come true this year. From Terry. So happy blursday to Aaron, from Terry. What if one of Aaron's birthday wishes was that we would talk about Flashdance Dance and Dirty Dancing and Footloose? I got there. What do they say? Everybody.
- [94:31]
Luke Burbank
Dreams come true.
- [94:32]
Andrew
Everybody. Everybody blank. Footloose. Everybody blank. Everybody blank. I heard that song Cut.
- [94:38]
Luke Burbank
It is Cut Foot Loose.
- [94:39]
Andrew
I thought I was saying it as cut, but then I was. When I was starting to sing it before, I'm like, they can't be saying cut. What does that mean? Like, cut a rug.
- [94:46]
Luke Burbank
To cut footloose is like, you know, to cut loose, I guess is what Kenny Loggins is. That was when. I mean. Yeah, that was when Kenny Loggins couldn't stop shitting out gold records. That makes it sound like I think he's, you know, he was crapping them out. They Weren't good. I'm just trying to say Kenny Loggins couldn't miss.
- [95:05]
Andrew
Yeah.
- [95:05]
Luke Burbank
That was. He was doing the Caddyshack soundtrack.
- [95:09]
Andrew
Yeah. Yeah.
- [95:10]
Luke Burbank
He was doing highway to the Danger Zone for the Top Gun.
- [95:13]
Andrew
Oh, my God.
- [95:14]
Luke Burbank
Everybody was cutting foot loose. Everybody. He was. We don't talk about this enough. I mean, actually, on this show, we talk about it too much. This is probably the 10th time I've brought this up, but, like, there was a period of time where we. It was Kenny Loggins world when it came to movies, soundtrack songs. We just lived in it.
- [95:31]
Andrew
Yeah. Yep. And then Peabo Bryson came along.
- [95:35]
Luke Burbank
Rip, by the way, literally passed away last year. I mean, last week. Really?
- [95:40]
Andrew
I don't think I. I don't think I heard that, or if I. Maybe that's why he was so top of mind. But I do think of him as. If ever I'm in your arms again it's not the best imitation in the world, but I do truly love. Yeah, well, the worst is bad.
- [95:57]
Luke Burbank
Well, he also. But you know what he did? He was topping the charts. This is what I was reading in the. Peabo Bryson. First of all, Peabo, not his real first name. He had a different name. Let's see here. But nobody could remember it, so he started going by Peebo. It was like, one letter off. Yeah, it was Pipo. So his name was Robert Peepo Bryson. Like P, E, A P, O. But. But nobody could seem to figure that out. They. People had trouble with Pipo, so he just started going by Peebo because.
- [96:30]
Andrew
Robert Pebo Bryce. So it was his middle name, but
- [96:34]
Luke Burbank
it wasn't even his name. His name was Pipo.
- [96:36]
Andrew
Yeah, I mean, Peepo. Yeah. Robert Peepo Bryson. Interesting. Yeah.
- [96:41]
Luke Burbank
Then he also. He had this moment in the, I think, like, late 80s, early 90s, where he was just absolutely topping the charts with his R and B music, but then also did the Beauty and the Beast soundtrack with Celine Dion. This all comes back to Jerry Orbach, by the way.
- [97:03]
Andrew
Well, that's why I brought it up, because I think of him as doing. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just thinking of Beauty and the Beast, But I thought he did. Did he do, like, Fievel Goes west or something like that as well? Did he? No, he was. He wasn't one of the singers on the.
- [97:15]
Luke Burbank
That was somewhere out there beneath the pale moonlight.
- [97:19]
Andrew
Yeah. And he wasn't on that.
- [97:20]
Luke Burbank
I don't think so. He also did A Whole New World. He did a version of the Atlanta
- [97:25]
Andrew
song Groom and Linda Ronstadt. Okay.
- [97:28]
Luke Burbank
It was. Was Stephen A. Smith.
- [97:31]
Andrew
I thought Pebo had a connection to the FAL universe, but I guess not.
- [97:35]
Luke Burbank
But Pebo, he did do a Beauty and the Beast. I don't know if it's on the record or if it was or if it was in the movie or if it was, like, on, like, a record they released, but it was really popular. I think he got Record of the Year, and then he got Best pop performance by a duo or a group with. For doing A Whole New World with Regina Bell. That, and I feel like his whole. And I feel like his. But again, he's not the. Like, if you watch Aladdin, he's not singing A Whole New World on the album. That's the. You know, the kid. Because, like, Aladdin is singing A Whole New World. He's like a teenager. He's a street rat riff raff. I don't buy that. But if you had told.
- [98:10]
Andrew
I'm now just realizing that A Whole New World is not a Fievel song. That. That. I never saw that. The confusion. I always thought A Whole New World was related to the. To the. To the mouse movies. Right.
- [98:25]
Luke Burbank
It would actually make more sense because Fievel, it's sort of an immigrant tale, right?
- [98:30]
Andrew
I don't know.
- [98:30]
Luke Burbank
It's actually more. It's more. Yeah. Fievel Goes west. He's kind of like a. He's a. He's a little mouse or something. I don't think I've seen it, but he's. You know, I think he comes in through, like, Ellis island or something. Like, he's got real kind of immigrant energy. Old Fievel. And that would make more sense for A Whole New World. Whereas in the Aladdin movie, it's just Aladdin just telling Jasmine, like. Like, I'm gonna fly you around this city on a magic carpet and I'm gonna tell you about A Whole New World, which my buddy Joe Dolan's older brother said was a song about losing your virginity. And he had a lot of. A lot of data and research to back this up when he went away to college and we were still in high school. And he's like, you know, that song is about losing your virginity. I was like, it would never be. It's Disney. He goes, well, if you think about
- [99:13]
Andrew
the lyrics, study it out. Study it out.
- [99:15]
Luke Burbank
That's all you do is study it up.
- [99:17]
Andrew
I see. Because I always knew that Fievel Goes west was. Was a sequel, or maybe you would even say a squeakle. Because. Because.
- [99:23]
Luke Burbank
Okay.
- [99:23]
Andrew
Because I knew that I did An American Story or An American Tale was the first one. And then American tail 5o goes west. And that makes sense. So the first one is the Ellis island story, I'm assuming. And then the second one would be like the next chapter in that. In that American mythology. Right. Of just like. Well, that makes it west.
- [99:43]
Luke Burbank
Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Jimmy Stewart was one of the voices. Is Jimmy Stewart played in FAL Goes West? Jimmy Stewart plays a character called Wiley Burp.
- [99:54]
Andrew
Oh, that's good. That's good.
- [99:56]
Luke Burbank
Like Wyatt Earp, but Wy.
- [99:58]
Andrew
No, I like that actually, now I'm looking it up. What are the other. Fievel Mouskowitz is Fievel's full name. Did you know that?
- [100:07]
Luke Burbank
I did know that.
- [100:08]
Andrew
You did, really? Oh, okay.
- [100:09]
Luke Burbank
And then yeah, I knew that he was sort of like a Russian Jewish mouse.
- [100:13]
Andrew
John Cleese plays a character named Cat R Wall or Caterwall. I like that. And then I'm looking for any other good little puns here. I do like Wiley Burp, though. That's pretty good.
- [100:27]
Luke Burbank
Wow. It was Amblamation. The short lived Amblamation was a studio Steven Spielberg set up to keep the animators from who Framed Roger Rabbit working. Oh, that was the animation studio that made an American tv. Fievel Goes West.
- [100:44]
Andrew
Are you interested in this new Spielberg movie? It looks like kind of a return to form of like kind of aliens and stuff.
- [100:52]
Luke Burbank
I am. I'm professionally interested in it because I'm also working on a story about UFOs right now. And we're gonna use. We just. The show just interviewed Spielberg for this movie Disclosure Day that he put out. And we're gonna use some of the stuff they didn't use, like interviews with him. Because one of the things I think is interesting about it is Steven Spielberg is a true believer. He's not just like there's some unexplained, you know, phenomenon out there that we don't know what it was. He's like, aliens walk among us. Like he legitimately believes that we have, you know, extraterrestrials on this planet. And he's. I think he's, he's so interesting as a creative figure because if you think about it, maybe second only to like Ridley Scott or something. Something. But not even second only. I'd say Ridley Scott would be maybe in second place with the movie Alien and Aliens. But like think about if you just like teleporters and close your eyes and think of like an extraterrestrial or an alien. They're probably picturing something from a Steven Spielberg movie. Whether it's Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Dreyfus Building the Tower of Mashed Potatoes or ET Or I'm forgetting some. I feel like he has created more of the pop culture mythology around what it would be for like non human intelligence to visit us.
- [102:08]
Andrew
I saw one of our favorite. It wasn't Wint. It was the other guy. Your friend. Who is it on Twitter? Bluesky. The guy with the weird avatar. And it's like your friend.
- [102:20]
Luke Burbank
Oh, Josh Letterman. Old friend 99.
- [102:22]
Andrew
Old friend 99. He tweeted or he posted earlier today. Something like. They say that Jaws is so good because you hardly ever see the sharp shark. That's why Spielberg's other movies are even better. You never see the shark. Thank you, old friend 99.
- [102:39]
Luke Burbank
Nice.
- [102:39]
Andrew
Let's see. He did. Batteries not included. Did we run?
- [102:43]
Luke Burbank
Yeah, we've run out of.
- [102:44]
Andrew
This is unprecedented. We've run out of Friends music twice now, though. I already secretly have restarted this.
- [102:51]
Luke Burbank
Oh, okay. That might be. That might be unprecedented. Yeah.
- [102:56]
Andrew
All right. I guess Super 8 was at an alien movie.
- [103:03]
Luke Burbank
No. I don't know.
- [103:04]
Andrew
Okay. Anyway, we got to get out of this. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm dragging my feet here. We have one final blurs day here on the list. It's from Ann in Poulsbo, who says happiest of blurs days to my 10 pal Emma in Sydney. I hope your birthday adventure in Christchurch was everything you dreamed it would be. Here's to another year of sharing nature picks and life updates from operations. Opposite ends of the earth. Happy blurs day. Wow.
- [103:32]
Luke Burbank
I know that's not Australian, but it's the closest.
- [103:34]
Andrew
Yeah.
- [103:34]
Luke Burbank
Accent to an Australian accent I had on this soundboard.
- [103:38]
Andrew
Well, also. Well, maybe this is too much information, but I do think that Emma has bitten Charlie's fingers. No, wait, yes. Not Charlie's fingers. Charlie's the finger biter in that case.
- [103:49]
Luke Burbank
But Charlie is the finger biter.
- [103:50]
Andrew
Yeah. Emma. Emma goes around. I don't want to say I can't rule her out, but Emma. Emma has bitten a lot. Lot of fingers in her camera scourge, actually. Yeah. All right. That was fun. What? How long have we been recording? It feels like we're in a. Oh, yeah. Long show. Long show today. Do you say days?
- [104:08]
Luke Burbank
I said days. And confused. No closer to knowing what the deal is with hit boy. But. But we've given it our best try. I'll have to look into that on my next trip down here because I will be heading home tonight. And then tomorrow we'll be joining you from the Madrona Hill studio where we, Andrew, will have a big announcement.
- [104:24]
Andrew
That's right. That's right. Everybody tune in tomorrow.
- [104:29]
Luke Burbank
John, lifelong Knicks fan John Skloroff will be.
- [104:31]
Andrew
That's right. And so let's see here. There will not be any more basketball played before he joins us tomorrow, right? No, because there will not be a game tonight.
- [104:41]
Luke Burbank
I think Saturday is the next game.
- [104:42]
Andrew
Okay, sounds good. So he will still be no matter there nothing.
- [104:45]
Luke Burbank
And I'm sure we'll have a lot of corrections for the things that I said today.
- [104:49]
Andrew
I think we got it pretty much right.
- [104:51]
Luke Burbank
Mostly about Dirty Dancing.
- [104:52]
Andrew
I'm looking for a song to play here. How about this? This is Sunrise. From a Moonbeam. I have no idea.
- [104:58]
Luke Burbank
Oh, beautiful. From this. From an American tale. 3. Fievel realize the West a little overrated.
- [105:07]
Andrew
Fievel hates LA going back to New York City.
- [105:10]
Luke Burbank
4 buys Nick's tickets. All right, thanks for listening, everybody. We'll be back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio. In the meantime, have a great Thursday. Thursday. Take care of yourselves. Go Mariners. And please remember, no mountain too tall.
- [105:22]
Andrew
And good luck to all. Power out.