#4783 Jimothee, Tanathee, Laudrathee

Summary

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TBTL Episode #4783: "Jimothee, Tanathee, Laudrathee"

Date: July 31, 2026
Hosts: Luke Burbank & Andrew Walsh

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Episode Overview

In this Friday edition, Luke and Andrew embrace their signature blend of goofy banter and pop culture riffs, tackling everything from unexpected raccoon cameos on Roku screens to the double-edged sword of viral "canoodling" scandals. The episode blends nostalgia with current events, offers deep dives into TV and podcast culture, and wraps with a hilarious confession on neighborhood vigilance. If you love tangents, inside jokes, and a balance of cynicism and delight about modern media phenomena, this is peak TBTL.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Jimothy" the Raccoon’s Pop Culture Ascent

Timestamps: 03:28–18:55

• Luke's Roku Epiphany: After initially mocking the corny Roku home screen, a THC gummy leads Luke to discover the wealth of movie Easter eggs hidden within it—and, shockingly, the inclusion of local raccoon celebrity "Jimothy."
  • Luke: “I thought because I wasn’t looking closely...I was like, get out of here, weird screen...Cut to last night. Another disappointing Mariners loss...it reverts back to the home screen at about the time Andrew, I decided to eat a gummy and let me tell you, don’t usually play in that space...goddamn, that Roku screen is amazing.” [09:39]
• Easter Egg Hunt: They delight in discovering references—Jaws, The Godfather, and, crucially, Jimothy the raccoon—hidden throughout the screen's landscape.
• Cultural Critique: Discussion on how once-beloved "wholesome internet stories" (like Jimothy) quickly become over-marketed, losing their initial charm and their generational cynicism toward viral cuteness.
  • “I think you have pulled me slightly more over to that side of the line, cynicism.” –Luke [17:39]
  • “There's just not a lot to do with [a cute raccoon] after a certain point.” –Andrew [18:58]
• Jimothy at the Mariners Game: They critique the execution of Jimothy's mascot at the stadium and muse about the logistical realities of raccoon cosplay.

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2. Streaming App Frustrations & Changing Tech Habits

Timestamps: 06:40–11:29

• Luke’s Ongoing Quest to Watch the Mariners: Luke describes his struggle with incompatible streaming apps, the haunted Roku device, and how nostalgia for old interfaces now shares space with new amusements (see: Easter eggs and inebriated appreciation).

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3. Viral Infidelity & “Canoodling” Lawyers

Timestamps: 21:18–39:26

• Central Park Scandal: Luke recounts the saga of two high-powered lawyers caught on TikTok making out in Central Park, which snowballs into job loss, public headlines (including the NY Post’s “Pro Boner”), and the unexpected collateral damage of viral shaming.
• Media and Professional Ethics: Parallels are drawn between this case and the Diana Russini–Mike Vrabel sports journalism scandal, critiquing how viral exposure can rapidly unearth years-old secrets and sweep up unrelated colleagues.
• Cynicism About Modern Media: The hosts bemoan rage-baiting content, express discomfort with the cultural trend of shaming via internet vigilantism, yet admit to a soft spot for the “Cart Narcs” channel—a lighter, arguably justified form of public shaming (for not returning shopping carts).

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4. Neighborhood Vigilantism: Andrew’s Confession

Timestamps: 39:26–54:42

• Andrew Reports a Reckless Driver: Andrew sheepishly admits to calling a cleaning company after seeing their branded van driving dangerously in his neighborhood, worried he’s now gotten someone fired.
  • “I am just gonna martyr myself. I’m just gonna throw myself on the content pyre...” –Andrew [39:26]
  • Luke (supporting Andrew): “I honestly stand by the decision to call.” [51:44]
• The Dilemma: They discuss consequences—does the punishment fit the crime? And the odd moment of being contacted back by the very kind office manager, who cryptically promises a "discussion, or more," with the driver.
• Tangents: Includes sandwich-ordering nerves at Jimmy John’s and the generational etiquette of feedback, both as drivers and as citizens.

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5. Old Seattle & Generational Shifts

Timestamps: 55:06–64:06

• Driving Styles & Learning: Luke reflects on being a slow, cautious driver (and backseat driver), and the generational contrast over eagerness to get a driver’s license.
• Nostalgic Anecdotes: Memories of neighborhood driving schools, beloved local landmarks, and the excitement of a friend getting a first car.

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6. Tech Law: The "Duress Code" Phone Wipe

Timestamps: 64:15–69:03

• James Bond for the Digital Age: Luke tells the story of an activist who, at airport customs, used a duress code to wipe their phone on demand. The legal gray area—destruction of evidence after official request—is debated.
  • “Now he’s being charged with like, destruction of evidence... unfortunately, it seems like he is technically on the wrong side of this based on, you know, I guess, prior case law…” –Luke [66:06]
• Columbo Strategy: Andrew jokes the best defense is to answer, “What a world. I don’t know what happened.” Much like suspects on Columbo should, but never do.

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7. Podcast & Pop Culture Recaps

Timestamps: 69:03–78:40

• Columbo Podcast Idea: Genevieve’s concept of a podcast where she “advises” Columbo suspects on what not to say is amusingly floated.
• Inbox Roulette: They play a listener’s voicemail about a dance recital and tap dancing to “Life Is a Highway,” reminisce about Rascal Flatts/Tom Cochrane/Disney, and riff on random cultural memories.
• Tim Robbins Tangent: Andrew laments finding out Tim Robbins' recent “cancel culture” rants, and they joke about the perils of beloved actors going off the rails in old age.
• The Player Reference: Clever wordplay in listener comments and appreciation for classic Tim Robbins films.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Goddamn, that Roku screen is amazing.” —Luke on discovering the joys of a stoner-level deep dive into the Roku screen’s Easter eggs [10:49]
• “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Like, drive a work vehicle in a dangerous way on a residential street. And like, yeah, you should get in trouble for that.” —Luke supports Andrew's citizen vigilance [54:11]
• “Canoodle a baby right into her.” —Andrew, with a classic TBTL turn of phrase about scandalous news coverage [29:59]
• “Pro boner.” —Luke, marveling at the NY Post’s cheeky headline [27:10]
• “Honestly, if you would have seen Rossini and Vray in Central Park, they would have both been on their phones.” —Luke on the evolution of relationships and tabloid “canoodling” [32:06]
• “Now I know how Joan of Arc felt.” —Luke, in response to Andrew’s martyr-level embarrassment [39:50]
• "I'm just gonna martyr myself. I'm just gonna throw myself on the content pyre..." —Andrew on his confession about reporting a reckless driver [39:26]
• “Cart Narcs”—the Magnet of Shame: “It is incredible to watch how angry certain people get about a magnet going on their car. Don't touch my car...He seems to have a really...good sense of where I am in space relative to other things and people.” —Luke [37:45/38:47]
• “Cyanide pill for your phone.” —Luke describing the "duress code" for wiping a phone under legal compulsion [65:39]
• “What a world defense. I love it.” —Luke, on beating Customs/Columbo by feigning ignorance [69:03]

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Notable Timestamps

• 03:28–18:55: Jimothy's viral status, Roku discoveries, stoned revelations
• 21:18–39:26: Infidelity scandals, NY Post headlines, media ethics
• 39:26–54:42: Andrew reports a reckless van driver, agonizes over moral consequences
• 64:15–69:03: The “duress code” phone-wipe, legal and Columbo strategies

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Tone & Style

Unfiltered, improvisational, and deeply self-aware, this episode is classic TBTL: nostalgia-drenched, with biting cultural critique wrapped in genuine amusement and layered inside jokes. The hosts blend crankiness about "cute" viral news with a real yearning for harmless fun—and can't help but turn everyday embarrassments into communal therapy.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a perfect slice of what makes TBTL beloved: smart, silly, and more than a little self-effacing. Whether you’re interested in the odd ways pop culture permeates daily life, the perils of the internet’s viral spotlight, or just want some laughs about Mariners fandom, slow driving, and weird local news—there’s something here for you.

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Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

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[Andrew Walsh]

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[Luke Burbank]

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[Andrew Walsh]

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[Luke Burbank]

I love these guys.

[Andrew Walsh]

They make funny with their mouths.

[Luke Burbank]

Alright. Hello, good morning and welcome everyone to a Friday edition of tbtl, the show that just might be too beautiful to live.

[Andrew Walsh]

This whole conversation bothers me.

[Luke Burbank]

My name is Luke Burbank. I am your host, coming to you from the Madrona Hills studio perched high above the mighty Columbia, where it is just an absolutely gorgeous day.

[Andrew Walsh]

Once again, California got sunshine.

[Luke Burbank]

Looks like we're going to be in the mid-80s out here. It's just going to be absolutely ideal for presenting yet another podcast here, which is what we do today is episode 4783 in a collector series.

[Andrew Walsh]

Let the fun begin.

[Luke Burbank]

It's Jimothy's world. We just live in it. Obviously he is the animal of the summer. How about like pranking an animal? But he showed up somewhere last night that I was not expecting and I've had an about face on something. There's something that I was that I denigrated on the show some weeks ago and I spent an hour riveted by this thing last night that happened to involve Jimothy. We could talk about that. And turns out there is a program that you can put on your phone that if someone like is trying to take your phone and they're Trying to force you to put your passcode in. You can, and it will erase your entire phone. It's called a duress code. Isn't that for techno geeks with spreadsheets? It's the subject of a law issue. Law enforcement issue or a customs issue that we'll talk about, too, time permitting today. We've always got time for this guy. Longest running cobra of the show. Maybe best known for his depictions of the tall ships. I'll say.

[Anon]

What's up, dog?

[Luke Burbank]

He's Andrew Walsh and he is joining me right now. Good morning, my friend.

[Andrew Walsh]

Good morning, Luke. I was a little distracted there. Did you recognize. Were you listening to that intro tape? I was.

[Luke Burbank]

It's.

[Andrew Walsh]

I had pulled that tape somewhat randomly before we started recording, and I had forgotten what the drops were in the little montage. And that. What is his name? Jamo from T Mobile trying to sell us some sort of podcast or deal. Who is that character? Do you know who that is?

[Luke Burbank]

Is that Janewick line?

[Andrew Walsh]

No, that is our friend Nikki.

[Luke Burbank]

Is that Nikki?

[Andrew Walsh]

That's Nicky. Yes. I forgot that she used to call.

[Luke Burbank]

She used to call and prank the voice for a. Like that, right?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Did she go into the bathroom and call you?

[Andrew Walsh]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

No.

[Andrew Walsh]

You're. This is a. This is a totally.

[Luke Burbank]

That's unrelated.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's not unrelated, but it's much more complicated than that. I was at dinner one time. This is a complicated story. I was at dinner one time with Nikki and Ders and Genevieve. It was just the four of us, and I used the restroom. And I don't know what was on my mind at the time, but I realized I was sort of muttering to myself in the bathroom, kind of a. Probably an intrusive thought kind of situation where I was probably muttering to myself like, you idiot or something like that. And then as I'm washing my hands, I realized there was another person in the bathroom. Was like one of those small one stall, one urinal bathrooms. And I was using the urinal, and I didn't know that there was probably somebody in the stall hearing me say swear, just Robert Durst style. And so I come back out and I tell this story to Genevieve, Nikki, and Durs. I'm like, you're not gonna believe what just happened to me. I'm such an idiot. And then I got a very sincere voicemail a few days later on the TBTL voicemail line, just saying, hey, I'm a listener. And I don't know, I just heard something really disturbing in the bathroom the other day, and I didn't know who to tell. I thought I'd tell you guys. A guy just. I was just doing my business in the stall and some guy just came in and was just swearing at himself under his breath. And of course, it was Nikki using a voice changer. Yes, exactly. And she did get me with that for a while until I pieced together what had happened. So that's.

[Luke Burbank]

That's not Jamo.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's not Jamo. Jamo is some character she just created who I think works in a mall.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm not exactly sure at the T Mobile store itself.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's my understanding.

[Luke Burbank]

We need to get. We need to get some. You know, we always love to have Mort, my agent, call the show. Maybe we can get JMO to call in a few times from the T Mobile store.

[Andrew Walsh]

I will. I will reach out to Jamo. I have some contacts there. So anyway, I. That was just very unusual for me because I hadn't played that intro in a while and I totally had forgotten about that tape. And I'm just over here laughing my ass off during the intro. I would like to hear some. You know, you did a good job of teasing some of these things on the show today, but I don't want to get ahead of ourselves. I'm very curious, though. Again, you can hold this off for later if you want, but I'm curious about what you've changed your thoughts on.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, we can jump right in

[Andrew Walsh]

a

[Luke Burbank]

few weeks ago or probably a few months ago, as everyone knows, if they listen to the show. One of our favorite topics is complaining about watching Mariners baseball games because of the shifting sands of different streaming platforms. That even though we've paid good money to watch this team hit, as it was written about in the Seattle Times today, rock bottom. You don't usually see that in the headline Mariners hit rock bottom. A Mike Vorrel piece.

[Andrew Walsh]

Voral. Interesting. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

You don't see that it wasn't called Tate Culkins.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wow.

[Luke Burbank]

But so the way that I now on my television, the way that I have to watch the Mariners because my TV will not integrate the MLB.com app. I don't know why I have. It's a giant computer screen. It has every other streaming app. It doesn't allow you to have mlb.com, so you were nice enough to give me your late mother's Roku.

[Andrew Walsh]

No. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

Of course you were nice enough to erase the.

[Andrew Walsh]

I should tell you that it's haunted, by the way. Did I not tell you that?

[Luke Burbank]

Actually, that's kind of, you know, sort of Related to this story, I guess, in a roundabout way, but. So I have to use this Roku to watch the game. And as I was setting it up, I told you that, like, I was really struck by how kind of. How kind of corny the Roku home screen is.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, I love it. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, because it looks so.

[Luke Burbank]

It just looks really antiquated. It's just like, what is. Like, what is this? Looks like a screensaver.

[Andrew Walsh]

So do you think most people know what it looks like?

[Luke Burbank]

How would you describe it?

[Andrew Walsh]

So I think you're very right to say that it looks like a screensaver. It rolls across your screen from right to left and it's like. It'll be various sort of scenes. I think the one that is default is like a cityscape, right? And you see sort of like the outline of a city at night. But then there's all these like little corny things that are going on in it. And it's like, don't you even see below the ground too? You can sort of see the skyline. But can you see people tunneling underneath as well?

[Luke Burbank]

Not on whatever they were doing last night on the Roku. But here's where I'm going with this. I thought because I wasn't looking closely the first time, I was just trying to furiously get to my Mariners watching. So I just saw this kind of very 90s looking, or maybe early 2000s looking, kind of computer screen. Yeah, it's got. It's kind of going. There's like bay that's like San Francisco Bay, but it's kind of an amalgam of all these different cities. It's got something that's vaguely space needle ish, but it's got something that's kind of like the Bay Bridge and it's

[Andrew Walsh]

filled with Easter eggs of little scenes from movies. Right.

[Luke Burbank]

And that's what I didn't know the first time. Cause I just wasn't really clocking it. I was just like, get out of here. Weird screen. And then you told me, I think on the show you're like, oh, it has mov jokes in it. I was like, okay, whatever. Cut to last night. Another disappointing Mariner's loss. And I'm still on Roku because I had been watching it on there and I'm just puttering around. I'm cleaning up the dinner dishes. It reverts back to the home screen at about the time Andrew, I decided to eat a gummy and let me

[Andrew Walsh]

tell you, don't usually play in that space.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm trying to Explore that space more. I feel like if I could, if I, if I could lock in on a, if I could figure out my relationship with a, you know, moderate amount of, of THC as just kind of like in lieu of having a beer or something, I think, I think it would work for me. I just. The problem is I'm very inexperienced. I tend to get a little paranoid. But I was.

[Andrew Walsh]

The problem for me is the in lieu part. Any idea how strong the gummy was that you took? Do you know milligrams? Is it standard? 10 milligrams?

[Luke Burbank]

I don't want to, but I don't want to. I don't want to bust anyone out, but. It was given to be my, my sister in law. My brother's wife had left it here like months ago. I didn't even know if it was good anymore. She, she, again, I don't think she'd be embarrassed for me to mention, you know, we'll have a gummy now and then. And she was, I was telling her, I want to get into this stuff, but I don't know how to. And I haven't ever found one. She goes, this one's pretty good. It, you know, it doesn't make you paranoid. It's like, whatever. So I've just had this loose gummy, you know, in my life for four months, whatever. They stayed with me and I finally took it and goddamn, that Roku screen is amazing. I was like, I finally.

[Andrew Walsh]

Would you say that you just opened the doors of perception, my friend?

[Luke Burbank]

I am the lizard king. Andrew. This is the end. Beautiful friend. I was so geeked out on the Easter eggs, man.

[Andrew Walsh]

What did you find? Because I haven't really. Like, my list is long.

[Luke Burbank]

Then I was on Reddit pages. There's whole subreddits about when the thing gets updated.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, actually, Actually, though, tell me, because I'm the one who told you I thought it was cool. And I know there's Easter eggs, but I haven't really done a deep dive on it. And I've always thought like, oh, yeah, I'll bet you there's some good online discourse about, like, what is actually going on in those screens. I see it mostly.

[Luke Burbank]

The gummy enjoyers have locked on.

[Andrew Walsh]

I usually see it at the Eagles because it'll be like in between and then somebody will forget, oh, I got to put on a new movie or whatever.

[Luke Burbank]

I think it would be a fun guessing game with a group of people, honestly. Because what it is, is, it's like, it's so, for instance, in this Bay. You know, there's a. There's like. Imagine San Francisco Bay. It's. There's like a little boat out there. It's a trawler, and there's like something in the water. And, like, it took me 30 passes to realize. Oh, that's the Jaws boat.

[Andrew Walsh]

Jaws boat. Okay, gotcha. And is there an upside down ship? 2 for what is the big upside down movie? Upside down?

[Luke Burbank]

Poseidon Adventure.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Isn't there a Poseidon Adventure? Maybe it's in a different Kraken.

[Luke Burbank]

There's some kind of sea beast grabbing a boat. There's also like a. Like a stern wheeler. Like an old fashioned kind of like, you know, the. The kind of boat that has the paddle wheel on the back. I don't really know what that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, that is.

[Luke Burbank]

Wouldn't that be Cape Fearful whorehouse in Texas?

[Andrew Walsh]

Cape Fear.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, maybe that's Cape Fear.

[Andrew Walsh]

See, I've never even seen Cape Fear, but I know that from the Simpsons parody of Cape Fear. So I could be totally wrong on that. Does Cape Fear actually have a bow with a wheel on it or is that just the Simpsons version?

[Luke Burbank]

I'll take it. I'll. I'll. You know, I'll. I'll. I'll go ahead and endorse that. There's a. I don't want to ruin this for people. They want to play this game at home tonight with their gummies and loved ones. But there's what I was really proud of, and this was towards the end of the night. There's a. There's a restaurant that has a neon sign in the window, and it looks like a hand is grabbing spaghetti. And I realized it's the Godfather. It's the COVID of the Mario Pujo where it's kind of holding the marionette strings.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nice. Nice. Yeah, there's. Now you're making me want to. Can we cut the show off early today?

[Luke Burbank]

But you know what drew me in? Guess who's already there, buddy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Guess who's already on the screen.

[Luke Burbank]

On the Roku screen.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, Jimothy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Really? They updated the screen to include Jimothy

[Luke Burbank]

already they have updated the Roku screen to include Jimothy. That. That's what I was looking at. And that's the only reason I stopped and started observing the screen. I was like, is that frickin Jimothy on there?

[Andrew Walsh]

I didn't realize that they were so nimble. I'm not even. I know that sounds crazy, but that.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm gonna send you out my mind.

[Andrew Walsh]

And now as you send this to Me though you've confirmed that this was Jimothy. This wasn't just the gummy talking.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, I have a photo of it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did you go online and type in Roku, Jimothy? Because I'm doing that. No, I was too high for that. That's great. Wow. That's what finally got you into a one screen experience.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, right? It took a gummy and Jimothy to finally get me to just focus on something. I texted you. Sorry, I know that's not the ideal, but I would be quite shocked if it's not Jimothy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, here's the deal. I haven't gotten your photo yet and I was typing into.

[Luke Burbank]

Are we the only show talking about this?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I'm kind of surprised there wasn't. There's not more online chatter about it. But I am now seeing a headline from USA Today. Where is Jimothy showing up? Google, Minecraft, Roku and more. So, yeah, apparently people are sneaking them in. Did you text me that thing? Is that where I should see the.

[Luke Burbank]

I texted you the photo.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nice.

[Luke Burbank]

And I have to say, like, considering I was splayed out on my couch looking at my TV photos, I. This morning I got up and I was like, I wonder how that photo was. And it was like, actually, it's okay. It actually does the job. It's in focus. I caught him because you said. Because you're right. It's a moving. It's sort of scrolling, I guess, right to left.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Definitely.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. That's so great. And everybody knows what Jimothy is at this point, right? The raccoon with the short sign.

[Luke Burbank]

Boy, did that ever take off. And I. We were in Valley City, so we didn't. Yeah, we didn't go hard on it. And you know, it's one of those kinds of stories that is. Is kind of cute, but then almost as, you know, quickly as it pops up, it's sort of. I mean, the one nice thing is that nobody's going to milkshake duck Jimothy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right? Well, I don't know. We'll see.

[Luke Burbank]

You know what I mean?

[Andrew Walsh]

Like, basically, Jimothy has some very disturbing posts on Reddit. Post.

[Luke Burbank]

It's one of those.

[Andrew Walsh]

Twelve years ago, I just saw this

[Luke Burbank]

headline in the New York Post. Oh, I wanted to tell you about another New York Post headline too, but this just on the subject of like, no one, no human being's life can survive the scrutiny of the Internet. And granted, this is the New York Post, which is a very, very annoying conservative. They're always looking for reasons to basically confirm the worldview of Donald Trump. But I just saw this headline this morning that. So you've heard of the whole thing of this guy that was running for Senate in Maine, Graham Platner, who had all kinds of issues in his background and finally dropped out of the race. So they go off the main Democratic. Whatever folks. They go and they have a little mini convention and they get their new guy, Troy Jackson, and he's like sort of. I think he used to be like, maybe the head of the Democrat state legislators, either the state Senate or the state House there in. In Maine. He's, you know, a farmer, he's quiet. He's not as charismatic as Graham Platner was. But he's, you know, they vetted him this time. And then I see this headline in the Post today. He had two children with his second cousin.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, no. I'm also seeing. I thought. Because I was just Googling just instinctively while you were saying his name. And I see Troy Jackson ran anonymous account to troll Republicans online. And I'm trying to figure out that's a good thing or a bad thing. Yeah, I wouldn't know.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm fine with that.

[Andrew Walsh]

The trolls were. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

But, oh, I. The other headline that I have to. This is kind of convoluted.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh.

[Luke Burbank]

The thing I was gonna say about Jimothy was just that it's the kind of story that is quite charming, but then it almost collapses under its own weight pretty quickly of like, it's Jimothy Day at the Mariners and it's, you know, the declaration of, you know.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Of it officially being Jimothy Day in Seattle. And again, I said this on Livewire because we did a best news segment about this. And I was. I was saying the thing a lot of people have said, which is. And it's not. This is not super insightful of me, but it's like it's the kind of story that gets popular because we need that kind of story.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right. Sure. Like, sort of the. Although, I mean, don't you feel, though, that, like, there's always those stories like it and you and I always react the same way to it. Like, you and I are just so cemented in our Gen Xyness in this particular way.

[Luke Burbank]

I think. I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but I think you have pulled me slightly more over to that side of the line cynicism.

[Andrew Walsh]

This feels to me like even when we first started working together. And I'll leave some of the. Well, it's a bad comparison. But I remember when I was sort of applying for the job at Cairo Radio to produce the show that you and Dave Ross were already doing. I remember there were certain stories that were like, yeah, they're pop culture, and there's fun and there's stuff to talk about, but then there's the stuff that's just sort of like, yeah, it's cute, but it get way too cute way too quickly. And there's just like. I don't know, like, the lifespan of these things for you and I, I feel like, is a little bit shorter and always has been. Maybe I've turned you into more of an asshole, though. I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, no. I. I think. I think in. I guess what I think is, like, in the first year of tbtl, we would have been like, I would have had a jimothy tattoo. Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay. Yeah, maybe. Maybe you guys.

[Luke Burbank]

But that's part of that. Because we're on commercial radio. We were trying to appeal. You know, it was a different. It was a slightly different energy. We went. I think we went a little. A little harder on things and. And. And. And stayed with them. And, you know, I mean, it's the reason why people still send us stuff about juggalos and things, you know, Like, I think my. I think just the aging process has kind of caused me to have a little bit. I sort of. I guess I tire of some of these topics a little bit quicker than I did back in the day.

[Andrew Walsh]

I guess.

[Luke Burbank]

For what that's worth, I don't want to blame that on you or anything.

[Andrew Walsh]

No. But in our. Can I just say, though, in our defense, I think it depends on the kind of story, too. Like, you and I. Hey, listen, man, there is nobody more dedicated to saying, I don't have a Doug on this flight than me. You know what I mean? Like, there are certain things that, like, if there's something there. Yes, we stick with it. It's just that cute raccoon that's caught on video. There's just not a lot to do with that after a certain point. I will say, speaking of the Mariners, I did think it was really cool that they included him in the salmon run. Did you follow that? That's like. I thought that was a pretty good integration.

[Luke Burbank]

I will be honest with you. I wish that they could have got the person being Jimothy to. I don't know what the exact term for it is, but to run on all fours.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, interesting.

[Luke Burbank]

The jimothy raccoon. First of all, you clearly, somebody, at 3pm on that day was driving around Soto trying to find, like, a pillow or something to stuff into a raccoon outfit. So as to Jimothy, it's a ton of a gun.

[Andrew Walsh]

It's like, I got. I'm on deadline here.

[Luke Burbank]

Some intern. Some Mariners intern. Probably works for our friend Greg Green, who's just, like, being sent hither and yon to, like, get me a Jimothy costume stat. And then. And, like, you know, it's actually really hard to. For us humans to kind of, like, you know, kind of ambulate, move on all fours. I remember when I was, like, playing high school soccer, we'd have to do these bear crawls, which are exactly what they sound like. You're on your hands and your feet, but you're never actually just standing up and going bipedal. And that's. We would have to bear crawl the entire soccer field, like, multiple times. And it's, like, kind of shocking how hard that was.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah. And didn't some people do the crab walk, too? I mean, that was less of a drill and more of just a fun trick. Right?

[Luke Burbank]

But the crab walk, is that where

[Andrew Walsh]

you, like, on your. Aren't you on your back?

[Luke Burbank]

You're doing, like, a bear? I don't think I knew. Yeah, that thing, dude. I feel like it wasn't exactly that, but we did have a girl. She was doing the phys. The President's physical fitness challenge. She was running and picking up the erasers. The shuttle run, and she fell back into the crab walk position and broke both of her.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, you mean just accidentally fell. Oh, God.

[Luke Burbank]

Into the crab walk position.

[Andrew Walsh]

Broke both wrists.

[Luke Burbank]

Jolie Arneson.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, Jolie.

[Luke Burbank]

Rough stuff. But. But I did like that the Mariners had a. Had a Jimothy in there. And like I said, he. You know, this Jimothy thing. I'm very happy for all of us to take joy in it, because again, particularly this week in Seattle and just everything. It's like, I'm good with it. Now, back to the New York Post real quick. This is a story that I'm sure you're not clocking, but it's kind of. It's kind of interesting. It started with. I don't know if this was, like, last week or when it exactly happened, but there were these two lawyers, right? A man and a woman, and they're in Central park on a bench, and they're kissing. It's actually, I think, kind of charming. It's kind of cute. It's like, you know, it Sort of looked like teenage love, but the guy's in a suit and the woman is very well, lawyer guy.

[Andrew Walsh]

What's that? I think I have her.

[Luke Burbank]

I've seen this guy.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I only caught a little corner of this story because, like, you know, kind of downdraft of people talking about. He's just like. He's a lawyer, right? He's like wearing a suit.

[Luke Burbank]

They're both lawyers, okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, you just said that. You just said that. Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

And so this is like, this is the kind of the most 2026 story that could ever happen, which is two lawyers are canoodling. This has been a great week for canoodle. If there had been a. Some kind of a poly market bet on. Is canoodle gonna really worm its way into the news headlines this week, it would have been a smart bet. But these two lawyers are canoodling on this park bench in Central park and in like, not doing anything. They're not, you know, they're not disrobing. They're not being. They're not being like over the top. Other than they're. You don't maybe always see, like. I think the man's like, in his early 50s. I don't know exactly how old woman is, but you don't always see people of that age in a suit and well put together, like, kind of making out.

[Andrew Walsh]

On making out. Yeah, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And so then you have a content creator, Tiktoker, who's just wandering through Central park, and he is some guy who I guess is like, known to sort of like, kind of provoke people or mess with people, you know, out. That's. That's a whole kind of. That's a whole part of TikTok are just these. It's mostly guys, young guys who will go into Home Depot and just like, mess with people and then just get people really mad at them or whatever and post it. It's kind of rage baiting is the term they use for it. I don't like it either. This random Tiktoker is walking through Central park, and this looks like it's also like in a kind of a slightly off the. Off the beaten path area of Central Park. And because he's a content creator, he's got his phone out and he's taping these two lawyers making out and he's saying to them, get a motel or something. He's like, get a room to them or whatever. And he just thought, oh, I'm just making content. I see two adults making on a park bench. But then the you can tell that when the male lawyer turns around and he sees there's a phone in his face, he is like shocked. He's trying to kind of like block like wave the phone off. He doesn't get like hostile because he's a very high paid, probably pretty smart attorney. But you can tell like immediately, oh, these two people are not supposed to be canoodling.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And this is not something the tiktoker knew about. The tiktoker was not sent there. And everyone's comparing this to the like Coldplay concert couple where there was more canoodling that was caught on the diamond vision or whatever, the fan cam. And those two people had their whole lives fall apart. This was another just like completely like if this tiktoker isn't walking through Central park, none of us know about it.

[Andrew Walsh]

These.

[Luke Burbank]

The canoodling continues. Yeah, but it turns out I think both of these lawyers were married to other people. Are married to other people. And in the case of the man, the male lawyer, he had just signed a contract to move to a new law firm in New York that if I believe, if I have this right, was. Is the highest paying law firm in the world. So the guy who's doing the canoodling on the bench is about to. He's leaving his high paying law law firm job that he has and he's on his way to an even higher paying law firm that he's going to go to. That contract appears to have now been voided because of the canoodling. There's speculation about what might happen to the, the, the, the woman who he was making out with, also an attorney. They worked at the same place. These were the people who I think defended Sam Altman in his lawsuit or the lawsuit that was brought by Elon Musk against OpenAI. Elon Musk basically said, hey, look, I helped start OpenAI as a, as a nonprofit and then you greedy bastards bought me out of the company and then made it a for profit. And he had this huge lawsuit which he lost, by the way. These were the people that were defending Sam Altman and OpenAI from Elon Musk. That's the level of law that these folks are practicing.

[Andrew Walsh]

And now. And now he's out of a job.

[Luke Burbank]

He's probably out of a job, or at least I don't. I mean, I'm sure he'll be able to practice a lot. It's not illegal what he did. But, but they. It sounds like this new law firm doesn't want the smoke. I mean, as far as smoke goes, it's pretty tame other than this appears to be infidelity. But this is where I'm going with all of this. Now, it turns out that the. The bosses. This is the headline, or this is one headline from the New York Post. Bosses of canoodling Central park lawyers were also hooking up. And now they've got pictures of these two other attorneys who Bill Savitt and Sarah Eddy, who work at this on the same team that was defending Sam Altman. They were also apparently having an affair, which is now coming out into the public. But what I really love about this is because now you have four different people from this law firm who are maybe having relationships that are not particularly appropriate, and they're all lawyers. It allowed the New York Post to today run the headline, pro Boner.

[Andrew Walsh]

Houston, we have a boner. That's pretty blue Boner. Wow.

[Luke Burbank]

That's a pretty solid headline for this story.

[Andrew Walsh]

Solid? Well, yeah, solid. But also, like, I know that they, you know, I know that they have Very funny or you know what I mean? Like a very.

[Luke Burbank]

It's the only reason I read their horrible slanted rag.

[Andrew Walsh]

But that. Don't you feel like that one is especially, like, sexual, even by their standards?

[Luke Burbank]

Pro boner. Yeah, I guess it's hard.

[Andrew Walsh]

That doesn't seem like they. It doesn't seem like they've crossed a new line with that one for you?

[Luke Burbank]

It's hard for me to say because I find almost everything they write offensive.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right.

[Luke Burbank]

For different reasons. It's like it's a perfect. And, you know, I mean, I always mention this when I mention the New York Post on this show. It always comes with this caveat of like, I hate myself for reading it. But they do have this weird. They do. The Net that they're sort of running through the water does catch stories like this that maybe aren't making it in the Times. Although I don't think we've seen. I do think we will see a big Times write up about this at some point. The sort of like, you know, the, like, I don't know what you call it, the legitimate coverage of the story. But. But everything else in the Post, it's just like, it's like looking into Donald Trump's mind. It's so unsettling. It's like every op ed is about how, like, crazy woke Dems created the democratic socialists and now they're coming home to roost. Now those crows are coming home to roost, you know, and it's like every time there's a crime that's allegedly committed by somebody who doesn't have their immigration paperwork in order. It's just like that. It's the biggest story they. I mean, unfortunately, Peace and Love. It's like, it's basically like some of the talk hosts over on a certain radio station in Seattle we used to work at. It's like where they get all their stories from.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And it's weird because I don't spend a lot of time in that headspace generally. I mean, I'm over in my bubble of Ezra Klein and Pod Save America and things like Chris Hayes, things like that. So because I don't watch Fox News, I don't do those. I don't engage in that kind of stuff, which I don't know, maybe I'm not taking in all the information. The only exception to that is I read the New York Post every single day and it makes me angry every single day.

[Andrew Walsh]

And it also makes you laugh.

[Luke Burbank]

Every once in a while we get pro boner.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know this isn't your point and I don't want to just take this to the typical place where any talk show would. But I mean, it is pretty astounding. Not just like the impact on these two people who actually got caught on camera in the park, that's one thing. But because of that, that just focused the eye of Sauron on this particular. And now people are. It's a little bit like the Rossini thing, the Diana Rossini. This is the sports reporter who was having the affair with my colleague Mike Vrabel, the coach of the former colleague Mike Vrabel.

[Luke Burbank]

That was some canoodling as well.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly. And years and years and years of canoodling. While it turns out they were both married and had kids.

[Luke Burbank]

Canoodle a baby right into her.

[Andrew Walsh]

Exactly. That she named Mike. It's just like. And so I understand. Listen. That is when a journalist. And listen again, I was always a fan of hers and so I feel a little icky doing this. But in any case, like that is a conflict when there is. There is a reporter who is secretly having a long, long, long term affair with one of the main people that she's covering. Like that's a conflict and it should be talked about in. From a media perspective and what have you. I'm not in it for like the destroying of lives or what have you. But having said that, it makes a little bit more sense when there's. So it started with like a couple of photos that leaked of them like sharing some times. Not, not like it sounds like I'M trying to make it sound like they were doing some real commuting. They were just like sort of holding hands and stuff and enjoying some believable.

[Luke Burbank]

If for not. If not for the hand holding. Yeah, it would have been believable because their initial cover story was like we were with different groups of friends and happened to randomly be at this, you know, wellness spa somewhere and we just know each other from our professional lives. But then there was like a picture of them with like interlaced hands. And I swear to God it was the interlacing of the hands. Like I've never once done that with someone who I just work with. And so the story started to fall apart pretty fast. And then all this other weird. Just pictures of them at bars together.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, exactly. Going back years and years and them renting boats together and trying not to show up in photos and stuff.

[Luke Burbank]

Using assumed names.

[Andrew Walsh]

In fact, going back to something here. Talking about the lawyers who were canoodling in the park and drawing a comparison, you know, the photo of Rossini and Vrabel from the original set of photos when they were, you know, caught or whatever word you want to use. The one of them in the hot tub, I was like, well, they do look sort of like friends. They're not doing anything. They're just sitting next to each other in a hot tub and it's like. Yeah, because that is a relationship that's been going on for a decade. Like, that's the difference. You know what I mean? As opposed to like a brand new couple that is stepping out and they're just filled their hands out. Exactly. It's kind of like in a certain

[Luke Burbank]

way, canoodling in the park.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. I mean, honestly, if you would have

[Luke Burbank]

seen Rossini and Vray in Central park, they would have both been on their phones.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right, exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

Sitting on a bench. But when in that. In year 10 of the relationship, when

[Andrew Walsh]

people start finding earlier photos of them together out and about at places, like when they're both sitting on those bar stools, there's a lot more like sort of intimate hand touching and stuff like that. And it's kind of like, yeah, you can sort of see the fire in a certain way. It's a sweet story. Okay. The point I was trying to make though is there is, you can argue like some sort of legitimate news coverage story there. And so when the eye of the media is on it and then people keep pulling threads and keep pulling threads, threads and more and more stuff is discovered that makes sense to me. Speaking of, did you see it Was really bummed me out. Like somebody went back and found Rossini talking on a podcast about kind of quasi bragging about how she got out of a ticket by sort of talking to the cop and telling him all about all of her contacts and how she was like wheeling and dealing when she was on the phone when he pulled her over. And then like somebody's like, wait, she told that story in a podcast. She said she was in Florida or wherever it was. We can find, find the body cam tape of it. Did you end up seeing that? Yeah, it is pretty like.

[Luke Burbank]

And I saw that body cam tape or I saw, you know, I saw that it was something and I read a little write up of it. I didn't realize that that was how people got there.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, because she's, because she's, you know, for people who don't know her. And again, the reason I was a fan of her on talk shows and stuff is she's a very funny, very brash person, you know, very. A lot of elbows. Right. With great sources. And so when she's like, oh yeah, I got out of a ticket once because of my job, because of, you know, who I know or whatever, then somebody is kind of like, oh, okay, well this is, should be public record then. And so people start pulling anyway. All of that sort of makes sense to me, but I don't. Listen, I'm not going, I'm not going out of my way to like ruin my weekend worrying about these high paid lawyers who are caught having extramarital affairs. Yeah, but it is a little bit weird when you are. I mean, again, these people are in a tier of, of class and wealth that I can't even imagine. I'm sure. But they're still not public figures, you know what I mean? They are people just leading private lives and suddenly it's kind of like, oh, your employee was caught canoodling. I'm just leaning into it in the park. And now therefore everybody who works for this company is kind of like, oh no, are they going to find about

[Luke Burbank]

our affair running a full audit? Yeah, everyone that has nothing to do

[Andrew Walsh]

with ethics or I mean, it has to do with morality maybe, but it doesn't have to do with the ethics of your job or your ability to do your job.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, no, you're right. It's in a way, I don't feel bad for them, but it's also. You wanna talk about catching strays. Now there's a picture of these other two attorneys who again are not the initial canoodlers. Yes, they're other like. And they're just. They're walking on the street and you can just look on their face of, you know, this is. A photographer is taking a picture of them. I don't know when this photo was taken. It's a Getty photo. It's Agency France Press via Getty Images. Maybe these people were just going in to do their lawyer job. They look like they're going, oh, shit.

[Andrew Walsh]

Really?

[Luke Burbank]

Like, oh, man, what? Now we're on the race. Like, they can they see that they're being photographed by essentially a paparazzi on the streets of. I believe it might be. I think they're in California. So maybe they are just at the trial for this because, you know, they were defending Sam Altman. So anyway, all that is to say, like, you would be. It would be kind of a bummer if you just. If you were just living your own little scandalous life, not trying to. Really not trying to bother anyone. And then these two. And there's also something. Again, I really don't want to defend people being unfaithful in doing stuff like this, but there's something about the initial event being so kind of wholesome. Like, had they not been married to other people. It's like a guy and a gal in. On a sunny day in Central park on their lunch break doing a little canoodling. Like, it's almost like they should have gone on a bicycle made for two.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right. Caught in a little boat. A little paddle boat.

[Luke Burbank]

Exactly. Like everything about it is actually kind of quite sweet and innocent other than the fact that it indicates both of them married to other people, all of that. But it's like, you know, I don't know. It's like. And again, it's the fact that it's like one of these TikTok rage baiters walking by them.

[Andrew Walsh]

This is what bothers me. Yeah, Just this idea of just. And I'm just. Even before the person knew there was infidelity, just like getting in people's faces and ruining their time and then potentially ruining a chunk of their life by putting it online and seeing how the world reacts to it. I mean, that is my least favorite thing.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. I do not have a lot of tolerance for this kind of content creation where it's just all based on just. There is one guy that does a version of this that I do actually kind of like watching he runs. I think I must have talked about this years ago. This is one of like one of the first weird, like tick tock kind of content creators that I started seeing on a regular basis and kind of watching. He runs a thing called Cart Narcs.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh yeah, yeah. You don't go turn your shopping cart. Yes. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

He has magnets made.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

That say like something. I forget what the magnets say, but they're like, I'm rude. Or I mean, there's something annoying. And what he does is he goes up and he's probably wearing like three cameras or what. I've never even seen the guy. I've only seen his pov. But if you are like, just leave your shopping cart right next to where your car was parked in the parking lot, which is of course rude and makes everyone else lives harder, he will go up and say like, hey, you gotta take your cart back or why are you being so rude? And then he'll throw this magnet on their car. And it is incredible to watch how angry certain people get about a magnet going on their car. Don't touch my car. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

There is a sense of like, propriety. Right? Like, just like people get really defensive about touching your car. Their cars.

[Luke Burbank]

I kind of feel like, because I'm not a car guy. I don't know. I don't think it would bug me that much. I mean, I haven't been in this situation. I also am a careful cart returner. Not because I'm worried I'm gonna get cart narc ed, but because I do feel like, what am I gonna make the poor 16 year old kid who works for Safeway have to go track this thing down? Like, come on. Like, it is the minimum that we can do in a society. But. But I don't think a magnet going on my car would cause me to sprint through a parking lot at a guy. He's also really fast at running backwards. I think because he knows exactly. He has a thing that I don't have, which is a good sense of. Is it prior perception? My sense of where I am in space relative to other things and people. A lot of the time I bump into things or I try to fit things through doors that don't fit. I'm not good at that. He seems to have a really. He knows exactly how close the person can get before he's in actual danger.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's great. So he's always.

[Luke Burbank]

He's just. And he's. He's never rude. He never raises his voice. He's. He's doing kind of like. He has almost this like, notice me, senpai, notice me kind of way of talking. That's like, well, you're just being Rude. You should take your cart back. And there's people just getting so, so mad and they just. Can you just be like, well, like, I'm gonna kick your ass? Well, why would you do that? I just want you to take your cart back.

[Andrew Walsh]

Very disarming in a certain way.

[Luke Burbank]

Pretty. It's pretty funny actually. So I don't know if we consider that to be rage baiting. That one doesn't really bother me because I feel like the people who are on the receiving end kind of asked for it. They're not just some random person who is just trying to live their life who's now being messed with.

[Andrew Walsh]

I will. I mean, I knew this was gonna happen. I did something yesterday that I'm very embarrassed about that I said, I will never tell Luke this, but I also was like, it's just perfect TBTL material. So I am just gonna martyr myself. I'm just gonna throw myself on the content pyre and let you all absolutely just judge me as harshly as you want. Because for real, this is.

[Luke Burbank]

And now I know how Joan of Arc felt.

[Andrew Walsh]

What is that?

[Luke Burbank]

Now I know how Joan of Arc felt.

[Andrew Walsh]

Who is that?

[Luke Burbank]

That's. Well, that's a Morrissey song about Joan of Arc.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay.

[Luke Burbank]

But then he gets all weird and he goes. As the flames rose to her Roman nose and her Walkman started to melt. Where are we going with this more?

[Andrew Walsh]

She's wearing a Walkman.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, that part doesn't seem, strictly speaking, historic.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, I value human life, but also, I mean, those Walkman are rare. I mean, at that point. Yeah, 1300s, France or whatever. Yeah, especially that. All right, okay. Yesterday I'm driving back from somewhere and I'm driving through kind of my old neighborhood of Roosevelt. And I'm on one of those roads, it's 12th Ave, for those who know. And it's a two way street, or I'm sorry, a two lane road that is a one way street. So in other words, two lanes of traffic going in the same direction. Right. And so are you on Roosevelt at this point? No, it's 12th. And so Roosevelt is two lanes of traffic going the other way a block away. And then this is two lanes of traffic going north. Yep. And I'm on this road all the time. It's just kind of of one of those when I'm going to do my pop up volunteering or whatever. This is a neighborhood I'm in a lot. And I'm driving in the left hand lane of. Again, they're both going the same direction. And by the way, what happened doesn't even affect me. That's what makes this so even more embarrassing. But I see a work van like well ahead. So this road is not like a strode. It's not like how I describe Aurora, which is like really busy with tons of businesses and just activity or whatever. It's actually. It's by a reservoir. It's like in a park. And it's just kind of like a quiet little kind of residential area. There is a grocery store nearby, you know, so. But anyway, it's like, it's just a place where you should drive a little bit more carefully. And I do. And the older I get, I drive very slowly around parks and everything like that.

[Luke Burbank]

Do you know. I'm sorry to interject.

[Andrew Walsh]

Go ahead. No, please.

[Luke Burbank]

That exact street you're talking about, probably right where you were was where that crazy crime went down, where that dude shot like a chef who was driving home. You probably remember this story. How long ago am I thinking this would have been? Like, maybe now it's probably five, 10 years ago. Maybe 10 years ago. There were two guys sitting at a stoplight on 12th, right where you are, and one guy shot the other guy. And because of like a road rage incident. But they couldn't figure out who did it.

[Andrew Walsh]

I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

And the guy who had done it was otherwise seemingly a very normal dude. I think he worked in software. And he then did all this crazy stuff where he tried to get the. He changed like the rims on his car, he repainted his car, all this stuff. This all came out in the. In the investigation afterwards.

[Andrew Walsh]

But he.

[Luke Burbank]

Maybe the guy was a wine steward. It's a beloved wine steward who worked at like QFC and was just driving home and it was a big story.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I don't know how I totally missed that, but.

[Luke Burbank]

But anyway, all that is to say I don't know that road.

[Andrew Walsh]

So there's that road. So it's. It's so just so folks know, it's not like a super busy congested area or anything. It's just this road. And so I'm driving in the left hand lane. There's, you know, traffic in front of me. We're all just driving at very moderate speed or whatever. It's supposed to be say 30 miles per hour and then off of one of these side roads because there are some intersections, but it's the side roads have to stop for you. We're a main through fair. Some work van. And this is well ahead of me. This is at least one car ahead of me. So he's not cutting me off, and I'm just gonna assume it's a he. This work van just comes tearing out in front of traffic, cuts off the car in front of me, and just goes into the right hand lane. So this van is coming from the left, cuts across a lane of traffic, and just like. I mean, it looked like a team style driving. I was like, what in the world is going on? And then it like speeds up really fast on this road and then cuts back over the left hand lane, cutting off another car.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't like anything about this.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I'm just like, what is going on? That is bananas. And again. And I wasn't even like. Unfortunately, some of my road rage triggers have to do with, like, when I feel like you. You didn't respect my. My space or whatever. This had nothing to do with me. I was just like, this is nuts and very dangerous. And then we're all sort of waiting at a light. The van is maybe a couple of cars ahead of me. And then the light changes and the van kind of speeds up and then takes this hard left on another side street. And then as I'm passing, the side street is just like so far away. So. And it's one of those roads, Luke, that, where we talk about that has little roundabouts with little signs to say, like, slow the flock down or whatever. And I just like, these are roads signs.

[Luke Burbank]

One of my number one things. I hate signs and roundabouts.

[Andrew Walsh]

There are cars parked on either sides of these types of roads, so they're like very residential. One car can pass through and this van is just ripping down. And so I do something that is not very safe, which is rip after him. No, I didn't rip after him, but I grabbed my phone and just quickly out my side window. I just blinded. Kindly tried to take a couple of shots. And I'm like, maybe I'll get a photo of that van. Because what was on the side of this van I was gonna. Was a huge phone number. A huge phone number. It was some sort of cleaning company.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

And I'm like, there's no way.

[Luke Burbank]

Take them to the cleaners.

[Andrew Walsh]

There's no way. Like, I actually got that. That number because the van was so far away from me. But phones are. The cameras on. Phones are really incredible these days. And I just enhanced. Enhanced when I was at a stoplight and I was like, I'm gonna call. I'm gonna call this number and just tell them, listen, you have somebody who's driving your van like a Maniac in a residential area. And I even said. I'm like, I feel weird leaving this message. In fact, it's this cleaning company. It's like shine and bright or something like that. And when I call, it's the only time I've ever called a company and not wanted to talk to somebody live, right? I'm like, I feel like snitching. I need to get this off my chest. But also, I am so embarrassed in the moment that I'm even doing this. Like, who am I? Let people live their life, even if they're assholes. Like, why do I feel the need to police this? I can't believe you have my back on this. Really? Because I feel like this is the. I told my dad this. I'm like, dad. He's like, of course you should call. I'm like, dad, yeah, but you're the only person who texted me.

[Luke Burbank]

We decided it was important for us to present a unified front to you.

[Andrew Walsh]

You've both been great role models to me. But anyways, love you. So I am. I'm driving in the car now. I'm on speakerphone. My car is plugged in, right? Or my phone is plugged into the car. So we're all. We're all one singularity in there. And so I call, but I'm just like, please don't actually let a human being pick up. Just send me to a voicemail where I can just leave this in voicemail purgatory and nobody will ever hear it. But I end up getting the nicest, friendliest phone tree recording you could possibly imagine. And now I immediately love this company. And by the way, I wasn't calling to yell at the company just to let them know, hey, you might want to know that somebody is driving like a maniac with your phone number on the side of the van. And so. But there's something so unbelievably likable about this company. From the moment you reach their phone tree, it's just kind of like, hey, I know that these things are annoying, but we just have a couple of new options, and we're going to get you exactly where you need to go. And like, the person who's leaving the outgoing message to us, the people calling the company is so nice and bubbly and, like, apologetic for making you go through this ph tree. I'm like, if I ever need anything cleaned, I'm calling these folks. I already like their vibe. And so they give me all. The phone tree gives me all kinds of options of who I can like, Talk to or whatever. And I'm like. And then at the very end, they're like, or if you don't know which option is right for you, just hit zero. We'll hook you up with somebody. Right now. I'm like, all right, I'll just hit

[Luke Burbank]

zero for Lightning McQueen. Lightning McQueen, that one cleaning person who likes to. To basically go full Dukes of Hazard on it.

[Andrew Walsh]

Lightning McLean. If that's not the name of today's show, it'll be the name of the show I'm recording with Hannah after this.

[Luke Burbank]

Jim Tan Laundry, which is from the. Oh, yeah, the Jimothy Tanty Laundry. That's just been going through my brain for, like, three days. I don't even know what it means because had to get it out. Well, because on Jersey Shore, they used to always talk about GTL laundry.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

But Jimothy.

[Andrew Walsh]

Jimothy is what's triggering that in your brain. Jimothy.

[Luke Burbank]

And I've been trying to make Jimothy Laundry.

[Andrew Walsh]

That might be a good title, actually. I actually like that a lot. I think we had a Jimothy title the other day. Move over, Let Jimmy take over.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, yeah. Oh, that was good. I meant to tell you because that was like you were working the Jimi Hendrix thing.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Anyway, I like that. So I'm already like, oh, please don't anybody pick up. And thankfully, I get a voicemail line saying, hey, I'm the. I'm the office manager. I'm not my desk right now. Leave me a message. Now, I don't want them to call me back or anything. I just say, hey, I just thought you should know that there's somebody driving your van, like, really erratically and dangerously around this neighborhood. I'm in. I'm kind of in the Roosevelt neighborhood around 12th and 75th or something. And I feel really weird leaving this voicemail. But I don't know. I said, maybe. Maybe somebody stole your van. But if not, you might want to know that somebody's, like, driving it pretty erratically. And I think I kind of apologize, but I didn't say. I didn't leave a phone number or anything. I was just kind of like. Like, sheepishly left this by the time I got home. And I don't know why. Maybe my phone was in my pocket. Maybe I didn't plug it back into my car for the rest of the trip. I don't know what it was. I got out. I got a Jimmy John sandwich. Luke, yesterday on the fly. What do you go with? Well, it was only, like, my second time In a, in a Jimmy John's. And so I, and I was having like, I was kind of nervous. I just don't know why I get nervous when I have to order something. But I, I'm trying to read the board as fast as possible. I don't want to hold, hold up the line. And so I got the number seven. It was like an Italian sub with their cheese.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I like, I really like their veggie but they always want to put avocado on it. And I don't feel like avocado belongs on a kind of a sub sandwich. For me that's a different flavor profile than what I'm looking for.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, I agree with you. And also the texture. You got to make sure that you're

[Luke Burbank]

into that texture totally texturally it's a problem. And what happens is I order it and I want everything on there except avocado. And it's complicated because there's of a lot like they have this whole part of the board that's like extras or whatever and it's like I want everything except I don't want the avocado. But then they're like. But do you also want the like peppers? I'm. Yeah, I want the peppers. You want the pickles? Yeah, I want the.

[Andrew Walsh]

Somehow say everything but the avocado.

[Luke Burbank]

That seems like it would work. And yet I find myself at the. Talking into the. The Jimmy John's in like Kelso, Washington has a drive through and. And I will occasionally hit it. I feel like I'm always having to like like five easy pieces for some reason. Who knows why?

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, yeah, anyway, so I go into Jimmy John's which is why I unplug my phone from my car, I guess and then my phone is in my pocket. By the time I get home, let's say 10 minutes later or whatever, I have this waiting for me.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh boy.

[Anon]

Hey Andrew, this is from. I'm the business manager and just wanted to say thank you so much for letting us know about what you saw with one of our vehicles. And unfortunately it wasn't sold or fortunately, I don't know. But yeah, I am able to see that one of my installers was there and we will absolutely have a discussion with him or more. So thank you very much.

[Andrew Walsh]

Or more. Or nar.

[Luke Burbank]

Or more. Or more.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean this is where, wow, the fantasy of just feeling like this person shouldn't be on the road and there should be some sort of accountability runs right against the reality of did I just get somebody in life changing trouble because if so, I don't feel great about that.

[Luke Burbank]

I honestly stand by the decision to call. I know what you're talking about, which is sort of like you're like the dog that caught the car. You're like, oh, wait, I didn't think that they were going to get fired for this. But on the other hand, that is dangerous.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, it was really appalling.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, it was terrible, this driver being dangerous in this way. And the part that really got me is like the parked cars along the street. That's a recipe for like a kid walking out from between those. Or a pet or something.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And it really was really uneasy. The van almost seemed like, I can't explain or I can't like sort of underscore enough how it, the van was moving like a van in an action movement. You know what I mean? Like, it almost felt like, like when it took this one corner, you felt like it was going to fishtail out. And it didn't. But it was just like, it was pretty, it was pretty egregious. But I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

Got, I've got the photograph. I'm on the website of this company now.

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, just so you know, I'm gonna beep the name of the actual company and the name of that person in that voicemail I just played for you.

[Luke Burbank]

So I, and I'm not going to give the name either if we're trying to be a little bit, keep it a little vague. But I'm on their website now. Andrew, based on the, the, the me hearing the unbeeped name of the company and what they have is a staff photo. And now, now I'm playing a game where I'm looking at, there's like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. There's like maybe 13 staffers standing in front of one of their trucks. And I'm trying to figure out which one of these mo. Which one of these look like the kind of person who would be be driving in a dangerous way. I, I honestly, I, I, I honestly do not have any problem with you making that call. And also with the potential outcome of this person not being able to drive. I mean, my guess is that they will get reprimanded and you know, I don't know what or more.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know, but isn't that, isn't that incredible thing to hear at the end of that voicemail?

[Luke Burbank]

That's really incredible.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, I really want to know what, or more actually what that could possibly mean. But, but yeah, I think, I think if you know, I don't even, like, why am I. I hate this. This saying, why am I. Why am I gonna amplify it? But it's like, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Like, drive. Drive a work vehicle in a dangerous way on a residential street. And like, yeah, you should get in trouble for that.

[Andrew Walsh]

I mean, with a huge phone number back of the van. I mean, that's the amazing thing. Have you seen those cars that have the stickers? Maybe we've even talked about it. But there are work cars now that they don't even say. Like, I can only drive up to a certain limit. It says. It says, car speed monitored by gps. Which is basically just saying, hey, listen, my bosses are watching. Don't ride my ass. There's nothing I can do here.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, I see that often now on the road. Just basically like, leave me alone. I. They don't let me drive this thing any faster.

[Andrew Walsh]

Right. Yeah. Which I also wonder if it's kind of like the new driver stickers, if some people are just getting them because they just want to be passive drivers and have people leave them alone.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, I learned recently that I think I am a bit of a Hans Moleman, like, because Becca, you know, in the kind way that she tends to. While we were driving, or somehow the conversation of driving came up, and I said something like, well, you know, I'm. I'm pretty slow driver. She goes, oh, yeah, I know.

[Andrew Walsh]

I know.

[Luke Burbank]

And I realize that I think I drive too slow for her liking.

[Andrew Walsh]

Uhhuh.

[Luke Burbank]

And particularly when we're in. I. I mean, when we're in, like, parking lots or anything like a residential street, I, like, honestly will drive, like, 10 miles an hour because I just get, like. I didn't want to hit anything, and I don't. I'm not in that big of a rush to get to Target or whatever. And so I don't think I even realize. I can see it be maddening in. If there's some. I'm, by the way, I'm a terrible, terrible backseat driver. When. When I'm. When I'm in the passenger seat and Becca is driving, I have a really hard time not kind of weighing in on, like, that. Not so much the speed, but like, oh, look out for that other car or look out for my big one is I always am worried we're going to hit a pedestrian. And I will say to her, like, oh, look, there's somebody crossing the street right there. And sugar, go. I've never hit a pedestrian in my life.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, right?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, you Know, like, I've been driving. She's been driving for 20 plus years.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And has never hit a pedestrian. But I am constantly terrified. This might be the first time we were. We were driving. We were down in Salem in her car. And we were driving on like a. Not quite the freeway, but definitely something more stroy than you were describing. And there was somebody who was just crossing. This is in an area of Salem where you have kind of a city park and there's a lot of people. There's a lot of unhoused people that kind of hang out in the park and kind of, you know, they're crossing. This was a part of the street that you should not be crossing. Had a big concrete divider in the middle. And they're kind of coming out of the blue. Like, this is not. This is not designed for crossing this street. And cars are going kind of fast. And this guy is crossing the street at. Oh, also it's a downhill. So he is crossing the street at a point on the street where you might not even see him fully.

[Andrew Walsh]

And clearly, if you're cresting the hill, you could come over that.

[Luke Burbank]

We're kind of driving sort of this hill where I clock this dude who is kind of dealing with some stuff and is crossing this road that is like, totally not where you're supposed to be doing this. And so I like, say to her, like, okay, there's a guy down there. And she goes, I see him. And I like, was like, okay. It's just that this is not where people should cross. There's low visibility, and I really do not want to witness somebody getting hit by your car. She's like, yeah, again, never hit a person in my life. Feel pretty confident I'm going to continue not hitting people.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm like, I know. I'm like, I want to turn that part of my. It's obviously a control issue, but I'm. I'm. Yeah.

[Andrew Walsh]

But anyway, if it only happened that one time, then it would be like, you know, it's dark, dark. It's got all of these various circumstances, like the hill. And like, if you. If it was the first time you ever just said, whoa, do you see that person up there? Like, that's dangerous or whatever.

[Luke Burbank]

I do it a lot, but if

[Andrew Walsh]

you're doing it a lot, then it kind of. That's where it probably.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't like it about myself, but I literally can't stop myself sometimes because I just feel like. I feel like, you know, what if

[Andrew Walsh]

the time you don't say it and

[Luke Burbank]

there have been, I can't give you the exact example but like, like there have been a couple times where I didn't say something because I'm like, I'm trying to be better about it and I'm, you know, and then we almost like get into a situation. A situation doesn't happen. You know, maybe the brakes are slammed upon or swerves are happening and it's one of the times where I was like intentionally not saying something and then I'm mad that I didn't say something.

[Andrew Walsh]

Once again, I'll just say that Swerve is a terrible name for a driving school, yet it seems to be one of the premier driving schools in this part of the country.

[Luke Burbank]

Is that still that's I see these

[Andrew Walsh]

cars that are just like Swerve driving school. I think our friend Gus went there. By the way. Phyllis had let me know. I hope I've never been in a car with Gus before. I hope he's not swerving all over the place.

[Luke Burbank]

I, I, what I was going to say there is like, are driving schools even still a thing? But I guess that's one of the few, that's one of the few jobs that can't be replaced by AI currently.

[Andrew Walsh]

I guess so. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Once we have self driving cars, I guess the driving schools, that's gonna be a bad day for the driving schools. But it just feels like such a, you know what it feels like to me is old Seattle. Speaking of Roosevelt. When I was growing up, the section of Roosevelt that runs between like Ravenna and the university district proper where there's that like a garishly yellow Indian restaurant and there's like a, like a dol like a department of licensing kind of place where you can get your tags.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh yes, yes, yes. In Roosevelt. Yes, I know exactly.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. By where Cafe Racer used to be.

[Andrew Walsh]

I used to get my tags there all the time. Time.

[Luke Burbank]

But, but yeah, driving that road. There was also like a house that had been converted into a driving school. And I forget what it was called, but I would just go by it all the time. And it just seemed like peak 1990s Seattle to me. It's the summertime. Maybe I've been playing pickup basketball over at Marshall or at Green Lake. I'm in my Honda, I'm driving down Roosevelt. I see this driving school. It's got, you know, a 90s looking Seattle dude in his 40s who's getting into a driving school car with the student.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Just it feels anachronistic to me for some reason. But I mean, kids still need to learn how to drive. And another thing I learned in my teenage dumb is that that is a real crucible. The biggest fights I ever got into with my mom were when I was trying to drive before I got my license. So I have my learner's permit and I'm driving the station wagon and my mom is in the passenger seat and is probably doing to me what I now do to Becca.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Just being freaked out about like. Do you see that by everything? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Now, did you, by the way, multiple accidents, all which proved to be her fault.

[Andrew Walsh]

Did you do that with Adelaide when she was a kid?

[Luke Burbank]

I do not remember. Well, first of all, she didn't get her license until she was like. I think she was like 18 when she got her license, so. So I think maybe she just figured it out. I was shocked that she didn't want to get her license on her 16th birthday. I feel like that's really generational. I feel like our generation. I don't know how it was for you in Ohio, but my generation of folks in Seattle, you went to the DMV on your birthday and you got that license. It was like a rite of passage and you were psyched about it. And then I feel like Addie's generation, no one was in a big hurry to get their license, I think because the culture of driving kids to things had changed.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think it was.

[Luke Burbank]

It was a much more ride based. Ride based world.

[Andrew Walsh]

You mean people. Kids were. I was like Addy. I waited until I was late 17, maybe 18, maybe not 18, because I was driving in high school. My senior year, I finally got my license. I think for me though, it was because so many of my friends were one year older than me. So I had just like. All of my friends were driving my ass around. Something that you would become familiar with 20 years later. But like, everybody just had their license already. They were just driving me around. I was just. Just a passenger princess, as you like to say. And that was like, you know, that was fine with me. So I didn't have a real urge to get my license either. But I know what you mean about like, culturally speaking though, people were just like. It was a sense of freedom. Like once when I am 16, then the leash, if it doesn't break, it gets much, much longer.

[Luke Burbank]

I remember being 15 years old and it was Christmas and my buddy Peter Williams, who was one grade ahead of me, so he was 16 already. I remember him calling me on Christmas morning and being like, you will not believe this. Like, what'd you get for Christmas? I was like, I don't know. Some socks, some. Some whatever. I was like, what did you get? He goes, I got a car.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, my God.

[Luke Burbank]

His parents had gotten him. And, you know, it was a used car. It was a very. It was like a used Toyota something, or maybe a used Honda something. But I remember he. Like, I was gonna say he sent me a picture of the car keys, but this was before cell phone, so. No, he didn't. I just like, no, you didn't, Oprah. I just, like. I just remember, for some reason, I remember that they hung the key to the Toyota, which still had the little, like, tag from the car lot, you know, and it was. I'm sure, again, this was like a. This was a used car. It wasn't like a. They gave him some fancy flashy thing. But I remember they hung it on the Christmas tree as, like, an ornament. And after he'd opened his other gifts, they said, there's one more you might want to go check out.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, my God.

[Luke Burbank]

And I was like, our lives have changed.

[Andrew Walsh]

Our lives begin today.

[Luke Burbank]

Our lives begin today. And I was like, get your ass over here.

[Andrew Walsh]

And he drove directly, going, it doesn't matter.

[Luke Burbank]

Guess where we went. Oak Tree Village. Went to Oak Tree Village, where I feel like Larry's Market was, for some reason, open even though it was Christmas Day, and Oak Tree Cinema was showing movies, and we went to a movie.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nice.

[Luke Burbank]

Just because we could.

[Andrew Walsh]

And you kept your feet on the damn floor. Yes, exactly the way God intended. At the movie theater. That's awesome.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, that's. That's like a core memory. It's not even me getting a car. It's. Yeah, it's my best friend who now will drive us anywhere we want to go. Him getting a car was. It was almost as good as me getting a car.

[Andrew Walsh]

Here I go once again with the email. Every week, I hope that it's from a female. Oh, man. It's not from a female.

[Luke Burbank]

We never got to a duress code. But the short of it is, is you can apparently. Apparently, you can put a piece of software on your phone that, like, means that if you're going through customs, as this dude was going into Atlanta and they want to confiscate your phone or they want to get into your phone to see what's on it, which, by the way, seems very dicey to me as a thing. This guy in Atlanta said that the reason that he was on some sort of, like, watch list was because he's Been in opposition to. Do you know what the whole story on Cop City is?

[Anon]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, it's this, it's this ridiculous, I think pretty ridiculous proposal sort of outside of Atlanta to turn this big area that's like, I think a nature preserve now and other stuff into just like this giant like police training academy place. And it's been very pushed back on by people in that area and they call it Cop City sort of derisively. This guy's been anti Cop City. Sounds like he's probably a fairly progressive dude. Dude, he gets through the airport customs says, hey, we need to see what's on your phone, what's the code? And this part is just so kind of badass. He gives them the code, they hit the code, it deletes his phone, it wipes his entire phone.

[Andrew Walsh]

Wow.

[Luke Burbank]

Which is I think just friggin James Bond city. I kind of love it.

[Andrew Walsh]

And if you have this technology and you know you're willing and ready to use it in a situation like this

[Luke Burbank]

cyanide pill for your phone, you must

[Andrew Walsh]

also have secured and backed up everything on your phone. I mean, our phones do a lot of that anyway. You and I are more like casual users of it. But even us, if something happened to our phone, we can find a lot of our information. But I'll bet you if you have this type of device, this sort of nuclear code device, you're making sure that you are set up so that you can in the moment, wipe your phone without wiping out your life.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. If you went to the trouble of getting this thing on your phone, you're probably making some kind of backup plans. But now he's being charged with like, destruction of evidence. And it sparked this legal question which is, and unfortunately it seems like he is technically on the wrong side of this based on, you know, I guess, prior case law in the Constitution or whatever.

[Andrew Walsh]

Nuts.

[Luke Burbank]

Now, now what? The, the, what I was reading in this, in this particular article was like a lawyer was saying, you know, if he thought customs was gonna, or border patrol, whoever it is, if he thought that they were going to look through his phone and he, and he nukes his phone like as he's getting off the plane, that's totally fine. But when they ask you, you've destroyed evidence because they've asked you to see your phone and now you've nuked it.

[Andrew Walsh]

I kind of hate that. That makes sense.

[Luke Burbank]

I know, I hate it as well. But I love how cinematic is. I love the look, the befuddled look on the faces of these, of these Jack Booted thugs working for. Whatever it is. I don't know if it's. It's not really tsa. I don't know if it was borders and Customs or whoever, but, like, I love the idea of, like, one of these. And I'm just gonna. He's just gonna be a guy in my mind, and he's punching in the. He's like, give us the passcode and he punches it in. And then just, like, there's some little freaking V for Vendetta, Guy Fawkes mask shows up. I don't know why it's that.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, I do, but I guess. Is there any defenseless, like, I. Is there a defense? Is there a legal argument called the you're Punching Yourself defense or I'm Not Touching youg Defense? Because I feel like I didn't destroy evidence, my friend. You did. You did.

[Luke Burbank]

You punched in the code.

[Andrew Walsh]

You punched in the code.

[Luke Burbank]

I feel like. Can't you plead? Like, I have no idea why that happened. Can you just be like, what did you do to my phone?

[Andrew Walsh]

Okay, how about, what a world Defense? There you go. What happened?

[Luke Burbank]

I tried that in various courts.

[Andrew Walsh]

What a world. Everything just deleted. What a world. I know.

[Luke Burbank]

Can you believe it?

[Andrew Walsh]

That's what I mean. Honestly, I didn't realize what I was doing there. But what I'm doing there is. I'm telling you what Genevieve and I are shouting at the television every time we watch Columbo because the. And I've said this to you on the show before, like, the Columbo villains. I love that show. But the worst thing about it is the villains always decide they want to play a cat and mouse game with Lt. Columbo. And it's kind of like when Columbo's like, well, what I don't understand is why would the vase be on the. The other side of the room? I mean, I was in here and it wasn't over there. And then all the person has to say is, I don't know. What a world. If you have any info on that, let me know, you know? But instead, the suspect is kind of like, well, I mean, sure, there's a very reasonable explanation, Lieutenant Colombo. I mean, I know what it was. She was probably cleaning and moved the. And you're just like, shut up, dude. Not your job to solve this for Columbo. Like, just say, I don't know. It's not your job to give him possible solutions. Drives me bananas. Do you know that?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, what a world defense. I love it.

[Andrew Walsh]

I think I've told you before that Genevieve and I, we're not starting any more podcasts. But I'm done starting podcasts. But it's such a good idea and I don't want anybody to steal it because I'll just be jealous. But, like, the Genevieve wants to call it something along the lines of like the Columbo lawyer, where basically it's a Columbo recap podcast. But Genevieve is representing, like in her role as podcast host. She is advising and representing the suspects throughout the show and saying, like, love it at this moment, you do not want to say what you're going to say. Here's what I want you to say to Lt. Colombo and just give them advice because they're just like, they can be so clever and set up the perfect crime and then they just feel the need. I guess the point is at Colombo

[Luke Burbank]

is not take the field sobriety test, say I do not answer questions, request your lawyer, and then just. That's it. Zip it.

[Andrew Walsh]

1-800-duioa Turns out the bases weren't the only thing that was loaded. All right, do you want to play a quick voicemail here? I have a voicemail here. I have no idea what it is. I saved it months and months ago. It's just been knocking around this, this folder I have. It's. It says it's from somebody who didn't leave their name. Anon is how I slug that. And it says dance recital. Would you like to hear a story about dance recital from Anon? Sure you would.

[Luke Burbank]

This would be a great way to go into the weekend.

[Anon]

Hey, Luke. Hey, Andrew. I just wanted to recount an event from my weekend. My daughter's in a new middle school this year and so I'm trying to do everything I can to foster the friendship she is making, which includes going to sit through the three hour dance recital of one of her buddies on a Saturday in May in Maine. One of the first nice days we had. Anyway, I had so much respect for all those little dancers. They did great. But the high point of my experience was when a bunch of little girls came out dressed in sparkly racing suits and all of a sudden they started tap dancing to Life Is a Highway by Rachel Flack from the Disney movie Car Power Out.

[Andrew Walsh]

That voice come in around the time when we were talking about that song a lot because I did not realize that Rascal Flats had covered it or

[Luke Burbank]

cover of Tom Cochran.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's right. I thought it was going to be because it had been so long since I heard that. I thought it was going to be Scatman. That would be something that came up in my feed yesterday. And I hate to bring this up, but at least I'm doing it at the end of the show. I didn't know that Tim Robbins has gone off the deep end.

[Luke Burbank]

No.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

So did I see him. I saw a clip of him on Rogan.

[Andrew Walsh]

That's the problem.

[Luke Burbank]

But he wasn't with the clip I saw. He wasn't saying anything kooky. He was just talking about his career. But does he also end up saying kooky stuff?

[Andrew Walsh]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

Our friend Jimothy was an inside job.

[Andrew Walsh]

Our friend Norm Charlatan posted a screenshot from. I don't know what the publication is here. Oh, Fox News, of course. The headline is, Tim Robbins turns to ayahuasca. After feeling, quote, consumed by anger over cancel culture, Norm said, I like the

[Luke Burbank]

turns to ayahuasca part.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. Norm says, this is.

[Luke Burbank]

Can we just get. Can we just get him the Roku screen? Hey, Tim, take some ayahuasca and look at this for the next three hours.

[Andrew Walsh]

The reason I bring it up is Norm tweeted this with or posted this with the sentence, this is what happens when you have nothing to lo. And then a bunch of people started posting the gif of Tim Robbins dancing to Scatman John and Nothing to Lose. I think that's people's On Ramp for that song. He's, like, not dancing to it. He's like, his feet are on fire or something. Scatman's World plays a big role.

[Luke Burbank]

Is it Scatman's World video?

[Andrew Walsh]

In the movie Nothing to Lose, there is a scene where they use that song and. Are you looking for it now? And Tim Robbins. I've never seen the movie, but I know from our Scatman John discourse that this is what a lot of people associate that song with. Can you play it and tell me? Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. So it's nothing to lose, which looks like it also has Martin Lawrence in it. I maybe. I knew this movie was a thing back in the day. Looks. 1997. This is described as spider Skatman.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, it's a spider, right?

[Luke Burbank]

Okay.

[Andrew Walsh]

What?

[Luke Burbank]

There's a spider on your head. Martin Lawrence and Tim Robbins are driving in a car. Tim. Obviously, Martin Lawrence is telling Tim Robbins there's a spider on his head. Sorry, I'm not up on all this jive talk boy lingo. What's that supposed to mean?

[Andrew Walsh]

There's a spider?

[Luke Burbank]

Probably cancel whoever wrote that line right.

[Andrew Walsh]

On your head.

[Luke Burbank]

It means there's a spider on your head.

[Anon]

Man.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, get it off. Get it off. Get it. It's got a giant, huge black spider on his head. Ain't touching that. Get it off.

[Andrew Walsh]

Get it off.

[Luke Burbank]

Get it off, get it off, get it off.

[Anon]

Get it.

[Luke Burbank]

That's a big spider. Martin now has a Hi8 video camera that he's now filming the spider with. Crawls onto Tim Robbins's face, jumps out of the car.

[Andrew Walsh]

Somebody posted underneath this gif. Okay? You will never laugh harder in your life than you will at this scene.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, and then he steps on a book of matches that somehow lights not one of his feet, but both of his feet on fire. We are absolutely at the edge of what I would say. Pyrotechnics could sort of occur in this scenario. I don't think stepping on those books of match certainly wouldn't light both feet on fire. But anyway, that's the world we're in. So now he's basically getting hot footed. Both of his feet are on fire, and he's dancing to Scatman.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, wow.

[Luke Burbank]

He calls it the hot foot. Martin does. That is remarkable. I can't believe that at some point Ders hasn't, like, deployed that in the. I was so sad that Emerson Hancock had such a bad game the other night because I was all ready to send Will Smith as Hancock.

[Andrew Walsh]

Oh, Will Smith was in some, like,

[Luke Burbank]

one of those superhero movies.

[Andrew Walsh]

But he's like, yeah, yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

It's kind of like a messed up superhero Hancock.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And he kind of. He drinks a lot, right?

[Luke Burbank]

Like, sleeps on benches or something. He doesn't have full control of his superpowers. I was like, oh, my gosh. I found a funny Hancock meme that I'm gonna drop on the boys as Emerson cruises into the seventh inning in another quality start. But it didn't work. I. I could see that Tim Robbins thing being something that somehow shows up in the chat.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, yeah. So anyway, but the Tim Robbins stuff is a bummer. I. I was very curious, so I wanted to read what he said.

[Luke Burbank]

He doesn't like cancel culture, basically.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, He. It's so, you know, it's all. All this news is coming out of the. This Rogan interview he did. But, you know, the whole Rogan thing. I took ayahuasca to get in touch with myself, and he had. He feels he was in touch with the spirit of his mother when he was at this ayahuasca retreat or whatever, like all this woo woo kind of stuff. But then, of course, the cancel culture stuff is what Fox News wants to write about. And there's pretty unhinged quotes from him just sort of saying, like, he was touring, like, the Eastern block or something, and he was talking to the people who live there about what they appreciate most about freedom and how these people who are living in Eastern Europe are concerned about the cancel culture that they're seeing in the United States because it's the closest thing to the authority, the authoritarianism that they lived through. And cancel culture is the new authoritarianism. And it's just like, oh, my God. It was just like. It was definitely quotes taken from a rambling podcast, but it also was just like, I always had good feelings about Tim Robbins, and now I have bad feelings about.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, yeah, I mean, because he was like. He was sort of. I mean, what was that mockumentary? Bob Roberts, right.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

That was big in my kind of. You know, it was satire of politics and kind of shot like a documentary.

[Andrew Walsh]

And he and Susan Sarandon were both big activists, I thought. Right, Absolutely. Yeah. So, anyway, it's just a. These men of a certain age get to a point where they just say, you can't say anything anymore. Like, somebody probably gently corrected him one time on something, and now he feels like he's been canceled. Like, has he even been canceled? I'm canceling right now.

[Luke Burbank]

I was unaware of his cancellation.

[Andrew Walsh]

No, I don't think he canceled.

[Luke Burbank]

I. Honestly, when I saw that clip, I. Of him, because the clip that I saw was him talking about turning down a sitcom role that would have paid him a million dollars because he had just. He said, I just had a child, and they came to me with this sitcom, and I couldn't do it because of the child, and I was broke. I needed the money, but I just couldn't do it. So that was the context of the clip I saw, and I just thought, oh, Tim Robbins is still around. And, you know, again, I have a generally positive feeling towards him. It's. It's too bad that that's how he's viewing his world. That that's. That that's the number one thing that he's kind of. Or a number one. If that's. If that drove him to take Ayahuasca to heal his mind, that's kind of a bummer, because it's like. I just think that's the number one issue facing most people today is cancel culture.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. And of course, I mean, that was. Who knows? It's probably a very long interview, and that was just the part that Fox News pulled out. But in this text chain, because I jumped in with A comment of my. Because I found another. I was like, what's going on with Tim Robbins? And, like, then I googled it. And there's another thing that's. It's like, Tim Robbins lived on lemon peels and honey for two weeks, and

[Luke Burbank]

now that feels on brand for him. Based on my prior thoughts, like kooky diet, becoming a breathitarian or something like that checks out.

[Andrew Walsh]

But what I thought I did see, and I don't know who this person was, so I posted that. I said, as Dan Savage would say, it gets better. Tim Robbins lost £25 by consuming only lemon juice, cayenne pepper, and maple syrup.

[Anon]

Up.

[Andrew Walsh]

Is that the ultimate cleanse or something like that?

[Luke Burbank]

I think Beyonce did that once.

[Andrew Walsh]

But somebody wrote underneath the. Underneath the. Tim Robbins turns to ayahuasca after feeling consumed by anger over cancel culture. Somebody wrote, don't hate the player. Are you familiar with the movie the Player?

[Luke Burbank]

That took me a minute. I love the movie the Player.

[Andrew Walsh]

And so I was like, oh, damn, that is so good.

[Luke Burbank]

I saw the. I saw the Player at the Crest Movie Theater up there in Shoreline. Across from the bingo hall.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah. God, I haven't been there in forever. I need to go support the Crest, man.

[Luke Burbank]

That place is a. Is a. I love that it still exists. That was the other. But we would go to the Crest so much. And I think. I think I saw Strictly Ballroom there anyway.

[Andrew Walsh]

Yeah, that's awesome that you saw that in the theater. I didn't see that until long after it was on video, but I've watched it a bunch of times. It's a. That's kind of a little bit of a go to for me now. Not that I should.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, is it ruined for you?

[Andrew Walsh]

No. I mean, that's not the same Tim Robbins. And also, like, I'm not going to get that. I mean, this is just like a. This is, for me, an eye roll. You know what I mean? Like, whatever. He said this stupid thing in an interview with Rogan. Like, I just. Like, I'm not. I mean, I guess in terms of cancel culture, in my heart, I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to carry this around with me. Like, whatever. People say things all the time.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. Well, speaking of people saying things and then people being done saying things, I think that's probably where we're going to wrap things up today. This brings us to the end of our broadcast week. Thanks, everyone, for spending all these hours with us. We got a weekend to get to, but we're going to be right back here on Monday back here in the podcasting minds shoveling coal. I was kind of mixing my metaphors there, but you get the idea. We're gonna be back on that Roku screen shoveling coal into a locomotive.

[Andrew Walsh]

Well, now I know how you're spending your weekend.

[Luke Burbank]

Throw mama from the train.

[Andrew Walsh]

Are you gonna, like. Are you gonna get all annoying into, like, weed culture and stuff like that? Are you gonna be, like, celebrating 420 and stuff?

[Luke Burbank]

I'm thinking of being, like, a guy who loves everything weed but doesn't smoke. Wouldn't that be a funny.

[Andrew Walsh]

Are you gonna be saying, like, puff, puff, giddy, give a lot like, I can't handle this era of Luke Burbankism.

[Luke Burbank]

My. My sound check is going to be pass the Dutchy on the left side now.

[Andrew Walsh]

I can't handle this.

[Luke Burbank]

All right, thanks for listening, everybody. We'll see you on Monday. Please remember, no mountain too tall, and

[Andrew Walsh]

good luck to all. Power out.