Episode #852: Let's Talk About The Seven Second Delay

Summary

Podcast Summary: TBTL: Too Beautiful To Live - Episode #852: "Let's Talk About The Seven Second Delay"

Release Date: June 30, 2011
Hosts: Luke Burbank and Jen Flash Andrews
Description: In this episode of TBTL, Luke and Jen navigate through technical challenges to deliver an engaging discussion on media censorship, political discourse, celebrity scandals, and more. They also feature an interview with Jenny O and share their thoughts on popular TV shows like Jeopardy and The Voice.

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1. Introduction

The episode kicks off with Luke and Jen exchanging playful banter about the acquisition of a new social networking site, uface. Luke humorously mentions setting up his "uface" page, a blend of "photo" and "hello."

• [00:02] Luke Burbank: "This picture will be my folo. Not a word, which is a contraction for photo and hello, you face."

Jen responds with confusion, highlighting their friendly rapport.

• [00:17] Jen Flash Andrews: "Who are you facing? Tbtm."

2. Technical Difficulties and Behind-the-Scenes

Luke and Jen discuss the struggles of producing the episode amidst technical glitches at the radio station. They humorously lament the challenges of setting up the studio and managing sound effects.

• [03:07] Luke Burbank: "Why does shit have to be so hard?"
• [05:25] Luke Burbank: "We're bringing you a Thursday afternoon edition of TBTL, which took every ounce of energy we had to just make this much of it happen."

Jen elaborates on the communication issues with a new executive, expressing frustration over the lack of clear feedback during meetings.

• [03:28] Jen Flash Andrews: "We had a meeting with a guy who's super, super nice guy, but he doesn't ever communicate to me what he's thinking."

3. Main Discussion: The Seven Second Delay Incident

a. Context of the Incident

The hosts delve into a controversy involving Mark Halperin, a political commentator who was reprimanded by MSNBC for using profanity on his show "Morning Joe." The discussion centers around the network's implementation of a seven-second delay to censor offensive language.

• [06:15] Luke Burbank: "This is episode 852 in a collector series... we do have a fun program."

b. Discussion on Free Speech and Political Discourse

Luke and Jen debate whether the president's language should be sanitized and the implications of such censorship on free speech. They argue that while it's courteous not to insult the president, widespread disrespect exists regardless of formal language constraints.

• [12:58] Jen Flash Andrews: "I don't think the president is that delicate. But I just think as cultured human beings, I don't think you should call the president that."
• [14:00] Jen Flash Andrews: "These are things that we're not exactly sure."

c. Blame Allocation and Media Responsibility

The conversation shifts to assigning blame for the mishandling of the profanity incident. Jen criticizes the executive producer for not knowing how to operate the delay system, while Luke expresses frustration over hosts blaming producers for technical oversights.

• [17:19] Jen Flash Andrews: "The executive producer is new to the job and didn't know how the 7 second delay button worked."
• [17:27] Luke Burbank: "I hate that kind of. Like, to me, if you're the host, you're the person with all the power you need to stick up for the people that work for you."

4. Advertisement: Chateau St. Michel

Luke and Jen take a moment to promote their official sponsor, Chateau St. Michel. They highlight the versatility and affordability of the wine brand, mentioning its availability both online and in local grocery stores.

• [28:16] Jen Flash Andrews: "We have a cap, a TBTL cap... the window decal... T-shirts are available."
• [29:02] Luke Burbank: "Prettysnarky.com. That's where you can go. And right now, we're doing a special where you get them both for a reduced price."

5. Interview with Jenny O: "Well, Okay, Honey"

The hosts introduce Jenny O, the artist behind the song "Well, Okay, Honey," which won the podcast's Song of the Summer contest. Jenny discusses her creative process, highlighting how the song was developed spontaneously without overthinking.

• [31:25] Jenny O: "I was totally just like, I'm just gonna play the bass. And then I just kind of came out."
• [33:46] Jenny O: "I'm putting all the money right back into making a new full-length record in August."

Luke and Jen congratulate Jenny on her success and encourage listeners to support her music.

• [33:46] Jen Flash Andrews: "We think it was because of hackery."
• [34:15] Luke Burbank: "Congratulations on the song and capturing the hearts of our listeners."

6. TV Show Commentary: Jeopardy and The Voice

a. Jeopardy

Jen recounts an episode of Jeopardy featuring a contestant named Jeff Amaros, who wins $30,000 by taking bold risks. The hosts discuss strategies for the game, emphasizing the importance of aggressive betting during Daily Doubles.

• [35:04] Luke Burbank: "I have long held... Anytime you get a double, you should bet more than you're comfortable with."
• [37:20] Luke Burbank: "I loudly boo. And I'm not a booer, as people know."

b. The Voice

Jen shares her experience watching The Voice finale, praising the supportive environment fostered by mentors like Adam Levine. They discuss the positive atmosphere of the show and the genuine connections between mentors and contestants.

• [38:27] Jen Flash Andrews: "It's very positive... the mentors were really rooting for these people."
• [40:34] Jen Flash Andrews: "I think the celebrities had invested in somebody else... it's a great opportunity."

7. Listener Email and Closing Remarks

Jen reads an email from Sarah, a state social worker who had attempted to call in but missed connecting with the hosts due to her demanding job. Luke humorously acknowledges the importance of Sarah's role.

• [42:15] Jen Flash Andrews: "I am a state social worker who sometimes, as today, have to do things like unscheduled visits."
• [43:16] Jen Flash Andrews: "I feel so special. Thanks, Sarah."

The episode concludes with Luke and Jen addressing the scattered nature of their show, thanking listeners for their patience, and teasing upcoming content.

• [43:30] Jen Flash Andrews: "Sarah is definitely back on the list."
• [44:29] Jen Flash Andrews: "Good luck to all."

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Notable Quotes:

• Jen Flash Andrews: "The whole point of this show is six people all talking at the same time for an hour." [08:28]
• Luke Burbank: "Go big or go home. That's a kind of a personal saying of mine." [35:33]
• Jen Flash Andrews: "It's a cluster. The whole show is a cluster." [15:37]

Conclusion:

In Episode #852, Luke and Jen tackle the complexities of media censorship, explore celebrity controversies, and celebrate emerging musical talent. Despite technical setbacks, their chemistry shines through, delivering a blend of humor, critical analysis, and heartfelt discussions. Listeners are left anticipating future episodes filled with more intriguing topics and lively interactions.

Transcript

[Luke Burbank]

Oh my, is it yearbook time already? The company has acquired an up and coming social networking site called uface. So each executive has to set up their you face page. Now, this picture will be my folo. Not a word, which is a contraction for photo and hello, you face.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Who are you facing? Tbtm.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, hello there, America. Welcome to a. Is it Thursday already, Jen?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yes. Yes, it is.

[Luke Burbank]

I just heard the love of Mike tell me. It is a Thursday afternoon edition of tbtl, the show that's probably too beautiful to live. I dropped the stake in the bathwater. Son of Tatum O'Neal. Oh, Lord, Flash, why does everything have to be so hard always?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I know. This is supposed to be the Friday of the midweek.

[Luke Burbank]

Hey, you know what? I just noticed something. We've been hanging out a lot today. But you're. Your nose where you got hot tipped looks great.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Oh, I have makeup on it today. It looks just like it looked yesterday.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, really?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

The fading hasn't really taken effect yet.

[Luke Burbank]

Maybe by fading she meant you can.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Put makeup on it.

[Luke Burbank]

My friend Madeline in LA who does the Madeline Brand show on KPCC listened to the show and she told me to tell you dermatologists are the chiropractors.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Of medicine, of face medicine.

[Luke Burbank]

She doesn't believe him for one minute. Hey, you know what? This is episode 852 in a collector series. And despite an incredibly labored, labored beginning to the show, or I should say pre show series of challenging technical whatnots, we do have a fun program.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Hi, this is Luke's mom, Susie. Coming tonight on tbtl.

[Luke Burbank]

We posed the immortal question. What are you doing here? What are you doing here? To the man who first posed that eternal question, Chris Hanson, who's got himself in his own little bit of videotaped trouble. Also, should Mark Halperin, he's a political type dude. Should he be suspended by MSNBC because he said the word dick after the people on the show he was on Morning Joe told him it was fine because of the delay. The famous 7 second delay. Who should be in trouble over this, if anyone will talk about that. And also we'll play you an interview with Jenny O. She was the people's choice for the song of the summer. She has that great little tune called. Well, okay, honey. We caught up with her in Los Angeles, California. And we will play that conversation for you in just a few moments. First, our dear friend, I love Jesus, but I drink a little. And our recently dermatologically scarred longtime producer of the show, Jen, Flash Andrews here. Hello, Jen I don't even. Like, can we just start over?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Half done.

[Luke Burbank]

I was half done before this show started today. Why does. Why does shit have to be so hard?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I know.

[Luke Burbank]

Like, should we. I mean, because this is tbtl, I guess. Why not, right? Tell them about the boring details of how hard it was to do this. Today we had a meeting here at the radio station. And so it seemed like, hey, you know what? It's a radio station. They've got studios. Let's just get in one of them and we'll crank out an episode of tbtl.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And just to backtrack to the meeting for a minute, we had the meeting with a guy who's super, super nice guy, but he doesn't ever communicate to me what he's thinking. And so what I have to do constantly during the meeting is say, do you not like that idea? Do you like that idea? You seem like you don't like that idea.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, you have. It's not really.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Huh.

[Luke Burbank]

It's the kind of. It's the personality type that I think you tend to have the most difficulty with because you like to know where you stand in the conversation.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I would far rather have the person say, no, that's not possible. No, that's not gonna work. No, I don't like that idea. Because he's the expert. Yeah, that's no problem. But. And so anyway, it was a really difficult meeting for me because I wasn't getting any feedback. And so. So even at the end of the meeting, I still don't know if the things I asked for are going to happen. I have no idea.

[Luke Burbank]

The website is canceled. I don't know if you know that that was my takeaway.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

So I was already kind of at the breakpoint before all of the technical trouble started.

[Luke Burbank]

So we get done with the meeting, we wander down here to this other studio where we will be kicked out by Michael Medved in some matter of minutes. And we set about doing today's edition of tbtl. But it's just like one dumb thing after another because we like to play these little sound effects and we gotta plug all these things into the board. And like, you know, the one guy who's super helpful is on vacation, and then the other guy, who's also helpful and looks exactly like Boris Yeltsin for the record, was just kind of like, yeah, it's not set up in this proper way. So it just. What we had to do was like, I scout. I've scavenged and salvaged an old CD with the theme song on it. Which you're hearing me talk over currently. But it was like it had other recorded stuff over it. So I had to pause it at exactly the moment that it needed to be paused so that later I could activate it after all of that, we're trying to play it, and none of it is being recorded in this computer here. So I had to get. Tell me it wasn't impressive, Jennifer, when I got all engineering on it and started moving things in and out of programming.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Let me just audition it over here in the monitor.

[Luke Burbank]

That's exactly what I did. And so here we are bringing you a Thursday afternoon edition of tbtl, which took every ounce of energy we had to just make this much of it happen. So it's gonna be really downhill for me. If you think about the sort of resources I have to do one of these shows on a given day. They were all expended. All of the calories I had in my body, both literal and the sort of figurative fuel I had all used up figuring out program and audition on this board.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Well, that concerns me because the top story, I was planning on maybe being a little bit confrontational with you, producer to host. Because the top story is about a conflict between a producer and a host. And I have a feeling you and I might have different people we blame.

[Luke Burbank]

I don't know about that. Well, what the hell, let's just see how far we get today. I mean, we may just stop at any point in the show. Once we've done the Chateau St. Michel ad, our fiduciary responsibility to this goddamn podcast is officially satisfied. So, hello and welcome to Top Story. All right, today's top story does involve this guy you may have heard of. His name's Mark Halperin. He's a writer for Time magazine. He used to do this thing at ABC called the Note, and he was on this show on msnbc, Morning Joe, and he was talking about the President, because the President has been getting very tough on Republicans over this debt ceiling. Oh, by the way, we're gonna do about two hours on the debt ceiling tomorrow, so just clear out your afternoon. No, I'm kidding. So anyway, just take a listen. This is this guy Mark Halperin talking on Morning Joe on msnbc.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Have it. We can use it, right, Alex?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, sure. Come on. Let me back it up a little bit here.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Oh, Lord.

[Luke Burbank]

I wanted to characterize how I thought the President behaved.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

How do you think you. Well, we have it. We can use it, right, Alex?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, sure. Come on, take a chance. Go for it.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yeah, let's See what happens.

[Luke Burbank]

Alex, behind you. You fall down, I'm going to catch you. Trust me.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And the precedent has been set on this. Okay? So anyway, go on.

[Luke Burbank]

So we're good. I thought he was kind of a dick yesterday. Oh, my God. Delay that. Delay that. What are you doing? I think the president. I can't believe you.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I was joking. Don't do that.

[Luke Burbank]

Did we delay that? I hit it. I hope it worked. Okay, okay. Well, my mom's watching, so we'll shut the fuck up. Scarborough, your mom's watching. Your mom's never heard the word dick.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Starting with Mika, going to Joe, going to Halperin, going to Alex, the producer at every turn. That was the. And by the way, if you've ever watched this show, the whole point of it is six people all talking at the same time for an hour. I'm actually, first of all surprised there's a producer. That was the first news that shocked me in this. But, you know, this happens all the time. This happened, used to happen on our show all the time. Somebody would say to you, can I cuss? No, you're on the radio, you cannot cuss.

[Luke Burbank]

I agree.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

So the guy says to them, can I say what I really think? And they take five minutes to say, yes, you can. We'll just dump it. So what would even be if their whole point was they were going to erase what he said? What a complete waste of time.

[Luke Burbank]

Right?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

So they obviously. I can't figure out if they actually thought they were gonna dump it or not, because if you were actually going to dump it, why would you even have him say it?

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, that's. Well, that's. And this is the weird thing about the radio dump is that if it works, and this is the way that for those of you who are unfamiliar with what the hell. We're talking about live radio stations, and I guess live TV stations, too. They're usually. What we're doing in the studio is delayed by 7 seconds compared to what you're hearing coming out of your speaker here on tbtl, we take that up to about seven, eight months. We have a very long delay because most people don't listen to this shit for years, right? But if we were a real radio show like we used to be, there is supposed to be this system in place where if somebody swears, you hit this dump button and it basically just takes out. It doesn't allow that into the stream.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

It takes out seven seconds of programming, right?

[Luke Burbank]

Which includes whenever. So if within seven seconds of someone swearing or doing something inappropriate, you hit that button, it just like, blocks it all out. But the effect that that has is when you're listening to, like, call in radio. I'll be the host and you be a caller. Okay. We're talking about gardening or something. Okay.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I am so sick of these motherfucking slugs.

[Luke Burbank]

No, no, I'm sorry. I didn't give you proper direction. Just talk like you're getting a little bit excited, but then when I point it, you stop talking. Okay, so talk about slugs. Okay, wait, wait, wait.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Let's really set the scene.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, let's do it. I'm going to be like Cisco Morris. What is he. What does he say? What's his big hit? Ooh la la la. Ooh la la. You're on with Cisco.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Oh, Cisco, I am so frustrated with these slugs.

[Luke Burbank]

Olo. We. We can't. We. We can't say that. I'm sorry. We have to let you go. I'm sorry. And you're like, as a listener, like, what? They can't say what. What happened because what happened is the seven seconds doesn't exist.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Right? But it's not like somebody came in and edited it to make it smooth.

[Luke Burbank]

And it's not like you're about to say the swear, and then there's like a beep, and then I go, you can't say it. It's just like an event. It's just like they're talking, talking, talking, and all of a sudden they're like, whoa, hey, hey. What? We had to let you go. It's like you've missed seven seconds in the sort of narrative of this little event. And it's super confusing as a listener because the whole thing is bizarre. So did you know, by the way, that the delay was broken at Cairo for, like, nine months and no one even knew?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

No, I didn't. But it is. It's so interesting because people will always say, can I say this? And they ask you. It's so interesting. And, you know, we had this happen, like, day three that we were on the air. Sean was telling a story, and he stopped and he said to you, can I call it my junk? Well, so you looked over at me and I looked at you. Well, the fact is, he's already said it. So we said, go ahead. And then afterwards, I kind of went round and round and, you know, we decided to air it. And it's fine. Whatever. He called it, his junk. But that's so the fact that this guy. And this is my question too, in terms of trying to allocate blame I don't know how often this guy is on this show. Like, I don't know how familiar he is with how the show works. But generally, if a guest says to you, can I use foul language? You say, no, because it's a live television program. You don't say, go ahead, and we'll ditch it if we don't like it. That's an insane answer to that question.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, and, yeah, not to mention that Scarborough's like, I was joking. First of all. I hate that accent so much. Reminds me of my grandma. Mother. We're not close. He's like, I was joking. It's like, that's not a funny joke. You know what happens when you make a joke? People laugh. People like, that's just. You were just saying to him, yeah, do it, and then we'll dump it. But then he acts all. I don't know if what he was thinking was, I'm gonna be in trouble for this. So now I have to act like, I didn't realize it was gonna happen. Here's the other thing, though, that's so crazy about this. I know we don't usually talk about politics on this show, and this isn't really a political conversation. It's more like an. An etiquette conversation. But MSNBC was like. They were like. I mean, groveling at the feet of the President. They were like, oh, my God, we are so sorry. They released this apology that was insanely, insanely prostrate. And then Mark Halperin also apologized.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And then he also. Then after msnbc, he also released another statement saying, I agree with every word MSNBC said.

[Luke Burbank]

But, like, is the president that delicate that we can't call him a dick? I mean, I don't think it's.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I don't think the president is that delicate. But I just think as like, cultured human beings, I don't think you should call the president that.

[Luke Burbank]

I know. But also, thousands of people across America, every single minute of the day, there are at least 4,000 people that are calling the president a dick.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Well, this goes back. I mean, you and I argued a year ago about. I didn't think it was right to put that picture of him without his shirt on, on that magazine. Because I thought, you know, if some paparazzi takes a picture of the president without his shirt on, I think that's disrespectful. And you were like, he can handle it. It's fine. So I think you and I kind of differ on how sensitive you need to be about the president. But I'M sure Obama didn't care at all.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, like, I just feel like it's such a weird thing that we have to act like no one is ever saying mean stuff about the President behind his back, because we all are at some point and he knows it. He's a smart dude. Like, I mean, to be honest, if, like, I was playing pickup basketball and it was getting heated, and then later someone was like, yeah, were you playing with that Luke guy? And he was like, yeah, he was being kind of a dick. Yeah, you're probably right. I mean, like, it's the most from guy to guy. It's one of the least offensive things you could say.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I also think that the President didn't care because I didn't watch that much of it. But he was definitely frustrated and trying to show that he was frustrated. And so I think he probably kind of likes that he got his point across.

[Luke Burbank]

Right. That's actually a point that was raised too. Is that like. Yeah, it was kind of good news for him because it was like, it indicated that, you know, that his sort of message was getting across.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

But on this blame thing.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

So this is what Scarborough has now said.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Apparently the executive producer is new to the job and didn't know how the 7 second delay button worked. You are supposed to know how to do the job. I would tell you what I think of him, but he doesn't know what button to push.

[Luke Burbank]

What.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And I'm just. I find it so fascinating that he and Micah, they, the two of them together, over and over and over, were like, say whatever you want. Say whatever you want.

[Luke Burbank]

It.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

The precedent's been set. We say stuff. I mean, they were acting as if that show is some kind of blue show that does all sorts of crazy sex humor all the time. And now they're mad at the producer because he didn't know it was a joke. Well, they joked about it for five minutes straight.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. That's utter bullshit. And how dare you get mad at the producer. Also, as the producer, you should really know where the dumpling is.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I know.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, that's a pretty straightforward.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Because you heard him on that tape say, I think it worked. Like, you should know. You should know where it is and when you have to hit it. I mean, that's like the first thing I learned.

[Luke Burbank]

But I mean, honestly, is it that big of a deal in any universe? He said the president was being kind of a dick. Okay. I don't even know. I mean, today on the radio show, Dave Ross kept going. Is that even Actually not allowed.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

It's like junk. These are things that we're not exactly sure.

[Luke Burbank]

Right.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And that's why I'm saying I don't actually think it was a big deal. And that's why this blame issue is really annoying me, how they're all trying to figure out who is to blame. The whole thing was a cluster. That whole show is a cluster. The whole point of that show is honestly five people talking at the same time for an hour.

[Luke Burbank]

Also today, I was forced to become aware that there's something called Morning Joe.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yeah, let's get to the blame of that situation.

[Luke Burbank]

Right. But I mean, you know what I mean? This is like, the best thing that could ever happen to them because we're talking about it. But, yeah, that whole, like, trying to be sort of, like, trying to be kind of funny and off the cuff and, like, anything goes, but then totally freaking out and then completely throwing your producer under the bus.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I was like, that reminds me of many hosts I've actually worked with, don't you think?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yes.

[Luke Burbank]

That's maybe why it strikes a nerve with both of us. And I know you thought we were gonna have this, like, host producer breakdown, like, disagreement, but actually, I've been a radio producer very recently in my life, and maybe one again soon. I mean, we'll see. I know how to run the gear, so that's, you know, put that on the res. But. But one of the worst things about people, like, the way Joe Scarborough appears to be in this case anyway, and the way that various radio hosts that I have worked for as a producer is they're totally dismissive of you, totally expect you to get everything right. And then if one bad thing goes wrong, the person who's making $29,000 a year is the person who takes the fall. Presumably, the guy in Scarborough country is making better money than I did on Wiseback, but you know what I mean? Like, I hate that kind of. Like, to me, if you're the host, you're the person with all the power you need to stick up for the people that work for you.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Right.

[Luke Burbank]

You know, instead of being like, it was their fault. And you'd be amazed at how many quote, unquote, talents in the business are so spineless.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Well, all I can hope is that actual executives at MSNBC listen to that whole tape, that whole run up to what happened, and don't let him get away with. With blaming this producer for everything. I think everybody shares a bit of the blame in that whole story.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, absolutely. And you're Right. And this goes to anyone who's ever on this show. Actually, that's not true. I was gonna say, if you're thinking about using the swear, don't. But we're a podcast. I guess it's okay. A little more okay with us. But if you have to ask, is it okay if I do this, then probably just don't do it. Because also, the other thing is it completely takes the whole momentum out of the conversation. You know what I mean? And that's another thing we know a lot about here, conversations that lack in momentum. There are just like children that work here now, by the way, at the radio station. Is that an intern? Is that someone. Is it bringing your daughter to work day?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

I'm always amazed at what goes on at this place towards the end of the day when I'm not usually around here. Okay, let's tell you about. Oh, guys, bad news. We're doing the Chateau St. Michel spot, which means after this, all bets are off. We are legally obligated to do one of these every show, and damn it, we're gonna do it. But then after that, we're gonna see how long Luki wants to keep doing a podcast. Chateau St Michel, official wine sponsor of TBTL, as you well know. I got an email from someone who said that they picked up a couple of bottles of Chateau St. Michel, they went to a party where the person was mid bottle of Chateau St. Michel, and they finished, I think, all of it. So it was a rough day the next day. But the point is, the wine was delicioso, as we've mentioned in the past. One of the things that's kind of cool about Chateau St. Michel is they have really affordable stuff. They have stuff that's under 10 bucks, and they also have stuff that's really nice. Like you could get it as a present for someone and give them this $70, $80 bottle of wine. You can pick it up in your local grocery store. You can buy it online, too, have it shipped to where you are. If you go to tbtl.net, there is a link to their page. They also have these cool things for your smartphone. They have a little app that will actually tell you what food and what wine go together. I still could never do that off the top of my head. I have this app. I'm not kidding. I have this app on my phone. I have used it before because. Do you know about that kind of stuff? Flash? Do you know what goes with what?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Not that.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, yeah. Well, this and particularly if you're on a date and you're trying to show off, not you, because you're in a committed relationship.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I still show off though, right? It's crazy how much I show off.

[Luke Burbank]

That's a great point. I assumed somehow, like, same thing for me. I assume that because we're in relationships, our days of showing off have. They're just getting started.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I still want Jason to think I'm the funniest person he's ever met. And I get so upset when he doesn't laugh really hard.

[Luke Burbank]

So even if you're in a committed relationship, you can still show off by using this wine pairing app. It's all available from Chateau St. Michel, the official wine sponsor of TBTL. Alright, onto our next little item here, which is the apparent secret videotaping of one Christopher Hanson, the guy from To Catch a Predator. Or as I like to call it, what are you doing here? Or as I really like to call it, proof that humans abhor awkwardness above all else. Because what happens on the Catch a Predator is the dude walks in, Chris Hansen is hiding in a laundry room or something.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

He thinks he's there to meet an underage girl.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes. Or boy. He then is about to get the worst news of his life, probably. Chris Hansen walks out. But the first thing Chris Hansen says is not, you're under arrest. Or not even. What are you doing here? The first thing he says will be some bit of small talk about the hat. Like, Boston's having a great season, if the guy's wearing a Red Sox hat, or if he's carrying. So one of the things they'll do is they'll tell them to bring something specific from like a, you know, chicken place. Because that also goes to proving that he, you know, wasn't just there on accident. Like, that he brought this thing that he was instructed to bring. So Chris Hansen will come out and he'll go like, they have pretty good chicken over there, huh? And then he gets down to business. But he always makes weird, surprisingly banal small talk with the person.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Even he has to ramp up to the big question.

[Luke Burbank]

That's right. That's right. Because that is how much. That's why when you get in an elevator and it's like, awkward, don't feel bad. That's humans. That's what goes on. We are all completely subject to that feeling. Because even Chris Hansen is feeling it in that situation. He's got to make dumb small talk, you know? Anyway, he's like a hell of a thunderstorm the other day, huh? Anyway, Chris Hansen has apparently, according to the National Enquirer, been caught having what's called an affair with a young TV reporter from Florida. He is married, he lives in Connecticut, he's got a couple of kids. They videotaped him. I read the article, and it just feels like overkill because it appears he's probably cheating on his wife. Okay, but here were, like, the details that they put were like, they videotaped him going into the restaurant, then they followed him home, then they saw to her home, then they saw him the next day, her driving him to the airport. And then they pointed out that her hair was tussled as if she'd been sleeping. They also pointed out they were wearing different clothes. Like, they were really nailing down all of the. So there was like.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

It was as if they were hired by the wife.

[Luke Burbank]

Right. But you know what I mean, it was like, okay, we get it. They're stupping and his breath was a little funky, which was. Cause probably, like, he didn't have his toothbrush, but they weren't quite there where they should share each other's. By the way, quick question. Is it ever okay to share a toothbrush in a relationship?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I think it is.

[Luke Burbank]

Not long term, but just like you're camping or you forget.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Absolutely.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, I grew up thinking sharing a toothbrush is the grossest thing you could ever do. But you also have your. I'm sorry, it's gonna get a little racy, guys. You have your tongue inside their mouth on a regular basis, probably, if you're.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

A. I never understood why that's so.

[Luke Burbank]

Why is that a taboo?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yeah. My friend Leah, in high school, when she was coming to spend the night at my house, she would have no problem borrowing my underwear. I mean, it was laundered, but she was like, I'll just borrow a pair of your panties. But she would insist that we stop at Bartel drugstore so she could get a fresh toothbrush.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, see, I don't think you'll share.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

My panties, but you won't share my toothbrush.

[Luke Burbank]

Someone turn that into a drop, please.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

What kind of friendship is this?

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, I don't think sharing toothbrushes with friends, that's not okay. Toothbrushes with a person who you make out with is okay because that's like you're doing the work of the toothbrush now. Unless there's something.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

What is it that you think is.

[Luke Burbank]

On something between you and Leah? Well, you know, what do you think.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Is on a toothbrush?

[Luke Burbank]

You know what? That's actually a really Good point. It's.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I mean, you could just. You can run it under hot water.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, it's just some nylon bristles. It's probably not that big of a deal. But anyway, what was I saying about toothbrushes? Oh, Chris Hansen, what are you doing here?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And we don't know if he brought his own. We don't know anything about that.

[Luke Burbank]

We don't know anything about that. But the point is, he has been apparently caught in this thing, and, boy, isn't everybody super duper excited. Because it feels like irony, I guess, in its most, you know, clear form. I would say, though, that. Not that I'm saying it's totally cool what he's done, but those are really different events. Consensual sex with another adult and, like, going over to meet some little kid. So to the people that think he kind of deserves this because he's trying to stop pederasts, I don't know if I quite buy that.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I think. No, but I do think the interesting thing is that if you decide to make what you do for a living something where you're catching people, I just think it's wisdom to make sure that your situation is cleared up. Like, if you need to, you know, file papers with your wife, like, whatever you need to do, you need to get your stuff in order because you've got a huge target. And I'm kind of surprised that he would be having an affair when this is his job, because he's gotta know that these people want revenge. And a place like the National Enquirer. I mean, that's just. I'm sure they. I would be surprised if they hadn't been looking out for him for a long time.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, this is the part that I don't understand for Chris Hansen is like, because he has framed himself and presumably made a lot of money as the force of anti. Shadiness. You know what I mean? It's like, he's like, when you're trying to do something shady, Chris Hansen's there telling you, what are you doing here? Whether you're a Nigerian email scammer. Remember he did that whole show where he tried to track down where all the scams went or whatever? So the thing about that is that how do you. My question is, how do you then sidle up to a. Like a. How do you sidle up to a TV newscaster who's 20 years your junior and go, hey, you want to go have illicit sex?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

We got to keep it secret.

[Luke Burbank]

I just don't understand how. Because she knows what his job is. Right. You know what I mean? It's kind of like these pastors, these people that are sort of on the pulpit talking about all this morality. And then I just don't know how with a straight face. Like, for me, I'm clearly amoral. So smooth sailing on affairs. Because if I went to somebody, hey, let's go get drunk and go do something inappropriate, they'd be like, that sounds kind of like a Friday for you. But if you're like Chris Hanson, how do you go to somebody and say, like, hey, I know that my day job is completely cracking down on people doing shit they're not supposed to do, but how about we do some shit we're not supposed to do?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I know. That's why I was so surprised when I saw that, because I thought he would. Not that he, you know, isn't gonna maybe have his marriage be unhappy or any of those kinds of things that happen to anybody. I would just think that he would be smarter than to carry on something illicit on the down low like this. I almost feel like I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that he and his wife have separated or something like that, you know, because he had to know people were gonna be watching him.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. They may be separating now. We'll see. It's interesting too, because his wife is a very attractive woman in her 50s, and this gal is like. Is like his wife minus 20 years. So, I mean, is that kind of flattering to the wife?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

No, it's horrible. Makes it so much worse.

[Luke Burbank]

No, but it proves that he likes you. He just likes you 20 years ago. Okay, but you haven't turned him off to the brand completely. Like, is it more insulting to me? Well, I don't know. I have two theories, because I used to think, would it be insulting if somebody left you because they were gay? Like, if somebody left you to go completely to the other sex, that's not insulting, right? Because that's just like. No, that's so much bigger than your relationship. That's like, oh, no, no, you're into a totally different thing. Right? That's a high five situation. No harm, no foul, right?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I would far prefer that. I mean, not that he's been in this kind of pain and all that kind of stuff, but I would far prefer that than leaving me for a girl that was 20 years younger than me.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, but what if he left you for a girl that was 20 years younger than you and looked nothing like you? Then what? He's rejecting everything about you. At least if it's just you 20 years younger. It's like. You know what I mean? Kind of flattering. No.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

No.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. All right, next up on the list. Oh, this is exciting. Flash, can you tell us about the new, pretty snarky merch?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yes, there's new merch today. We have a cap, a TBTL cap. It's a low, unstructured, adjustable hat. It's navy blue, and it says TBTL on it. That's available today. We also have the window decal. I'm not calling it a cling, because it comes with a removable adhesive because it's pretty thick, but you can. You know, you can move it from window to window if you want. If you have several cars, you might want to buy several. If you have several apartments with lots of windows, maybe you want to buy 10. But it's a great little window cling. It's white with black lettering that simply says 10.

[Luke Burbank]

That's awesome.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And we have about 20 T shirts left, so if you wanted a T.

[Luke Burbank]

Shirt, get in there now, and I'm gonna say something. The first time I see one of these 10 decals in the wild, I am gonna chase you down, and we're gonna go have a drink. Awesome. That is my commitment. And then we're gonna wait for the alcohol to leave our system so we can drive away and not get a dui. But that, by the way, doesn't apply if you hang out outside of my house. No, but if I see some. If I see somebody, what will you give them? Jen, we should each have a thing that will. Is that a bad idea to take someone for a drink? I'm trying to think what I can give them.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I think that sounds great.

[Luke Burbank]

What if they're, like, late for an appointment? I'm like, you're getting your goddamn drink.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

No, that's when it's appropriate to say, can we do it later?

[Luke Burbank]

Okay. Okay, well, I'm gonna come.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I will do the same thing. I'll take somebody for a drink when I see a 10 decal.

[Luke Burbank]

And also.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Or a decal for our friends in Canada, they call them decals. No, to our brothers and sisters in Canada.

[Luke Burbank]

A decal.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

A decal.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, you know what I'll do? I will come up and I will offer to take you for a drink. And if you can't do it right, then I will accept a rain check. Or you can take a rain check, and then you can. And then I will go have a drink with you at a time of your choosing. If I see someone with a TBTL 10 decal in the wild. People can go what to Prettysnarky.com?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Prettysnarky.Com. That's where you can go. And right now, we're doing a special where you get them both for a reduced price.

[Luke Burbank]

Excellent. Okay. Prettysnarky.com, one word, right?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yep.

[Luke Burbank]

Okay, awesome. Let's take a little listen to a conversation we had with Jenny O. She is the artist behind the song. Well, okay, honey. Which was, you know, the song of the summer contest is over now. And Bruno Mars won with the lazy song, which, by the way, someone tweeted me today that they woke up with that song in their head, and they said, thanks, ukebirbank for that. And I thought to everyone who doesn't listen to the show, they have no idea the context of that. They just think that I'm a big proponent of that song.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

So you've been sending it around.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, so that's disappointing. But anyway, that song won. We think it was because of hackery. Lady Gaga got second, which we'll. I don't know, we'll blame on the little monsters. And you know, Jen, it's not just our listeners who have taken a shine to this song. This song has been viewed a bunch oftimes on YouTube. I am predicting it's gonna pop up in a commercial somewhere. Oh, yeah, it's super catchy and likable. So anyway, we started off asking Jenny if she had a sense this was gonna be a hit song when she wrote it.

[C]

I really didn't think anything like that when I wrote that song, because I usually, like, I'll slave over songs and lyrics and really carefully write songs before I even put them down to tape or theoretical tape. But that particular song, I was totally just like, I'm just gonna play the bass. And then I just. I just kind of came out. And especially with all this swinging and, like, weird parts to that song, I really just didn't think that it. I was making the right decisions when I was making it at all. So I just kind of.

[Luke Burbank]

You need to continue ignoring your instincts because that's.

[C]

Or going with. Because they were my instincts. And I was like, this can't be the right choice, but I'm just gonna do it.

[Luke Burbank]

How old were you when you. When you first were performing in front of people or when you first kind of thought, oh, man, this is totally a thing I want to do with my life.

[C]

I always knew. I always wanted to do it. Like, I always was a little kid. I wanted to be a rock star. I Thought everyone wanted the same thing. Like I. I would play, I played bass, I played guitar and all these instruments. It just kind of was my reality. And it wasn't until in fifth grade, so I was at 10 or 11. There was tryouts for select chorus. The good kids. Like the good choir.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, right.

[C]

And I didn't, I didn't get in. And I was like, what the hell? Like, no, I was like, I was like, it doesn't make any sense. And I was like, so pissed off, like, or just like confused or like it was like the first time where there was like, like a competition or like some kind of like, criteria. And then I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna be good at this. And then I. And then I just like, I like practiced or something and then was like convinced that like the next year I was gonna get into this choir. And then I did. And from then on it was kind of like my prerogative.

[Luke Burbank]

So what's going on next for you? Is everybody very excited? I don't know, at the label or in your basement where you recorded this song? Well, okay, honey. It's kind of getting played a lot of places again. Song of the Summer, kind of. For our podcast. Does this mean big things for you? Does it mean you can have a slightly larger tour van or better venues?

[C]

Yeah, it's been really good. I've gotten place a few places that have helped me. Basically, I'm putting all the money right back into making a new full length record in August.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, Jenny, congratulations on the song and congratulations on capturing the hearts of our listeners and on all of your future success, which we will excitedly watch and feel like we're slightly a part of.

[C]

Thank you.

[Luke Burbank]

So there you go. A little bit of Jenny O. And I was checking out her videos and such on the youtubes and she seems like a ton of fun to see live. So if she comes to a town near you, you should, you should make a point to go check her and tell her that TBTL sent ya. All right, Flash, we are in the home stretch here. In fact, we've done much more show than I expected to in the post. There we go. Got your mic on in the post. Chateau St. Michelle, part of the program. So what would you like to do here? Would you like to do?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Oh, last night on tv for sure, because I saw some stuff.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, you saw some stuff. Okay. What happened last night on tv?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Well, I decided I was going to. Well, first of all, I love to watch Jeopardy. While I make dinner.

[Luke Burbank]

Yes.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And the best I can't wait to tell you about him. Okay, his name is Jeff.

[Luke Burbank]

Is he the ascot guy?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

No, no. He's like, totally regular looking guy. I think he was probably like an athlete in college. Young, mid-20s maybe. So first of all, he got a daily double. And he wasn't. The kid that's the champion right now is like 20 years old. He was clear. He's prodigy type. Very, very smart. Not cheering for him. So this guy, he's trying to play aggressively. He's not doing very well. He gets the daily double. He goes all daily double, which is always like, I stand up and cheer.

[Luke Burbank]

I'll make it a true daily double.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Oh, I'll make it. Oh, I always stand up. I'm so excited. So he goes, true daily double. He gets it wrong. He's down to zero. So he just keeps playing. He keeps playing. He keeps playing. This guy's name is Jeff Amaros. Yeah, he keeps playing. He hits the daily double again. Again he says, let's make it a true daily double. This time. He gets it. So now he's in the mix. He's playing. He goes on a tear. He's doing great. They go into, uh, final jeopardy. He and the in the. I'm gonna call him homeschooled kid. I don't know for sure that he was the smart, smart little guy there. They're nearly tied. They go in. He gets it right. He bet it all. Less like a hundred bucks. So he ends up winning $30,000 in one night basically by going big every chance he got, which takes so much courage to do that. And everybody's gotta watch tonight. This guy. Cause, you know, now he's a champion. His name's Jeff Amaros. And he's so fun to watch because he comes, he plays big, you know.

[Luke Burbank]

Well, you know, Jen, a saying. I've always said, go big or go home. Just a kind of a personal saying of mine. That's awesome. See, I always. I have long held. And it's surprising to me because Jeopardy. Is a. Is a game that's obsessed over by people who understand statistics and sort of, you know, that kind of thing. I've always said you should bet a lot on. Anytime you get a double, Jeopardy you. Is that what it's called? Daily double, daily double. Every time you get a daily double, you should bet more than you're comfortable with. And the reason is because it's the one time in the game when no one can buzz in before you. So you've immediately improved your chances greatly just by, like, getting Rid of that competition.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yes. Yes. And when people are like just 100, I boo.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I loudly boo. And I'm not a booer, as people know.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. No, but the other thing I hate is when they bet $1.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

And on the final. I mean, I know, I know, I know, I know.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

But it's not the price. That's right. Don't do that.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah. If you're safe and you don't want to risk the money. But, you know, I am. I'll tell you what I'm awful at. I am awful at reading on the faces if the person got Final Jeopardy. Right. No, I never.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Why are they all trying to trick us? Like, they all stand there, like, really stone based. Like, why aren't they winking?

[Luke Burbank]

I know. Like, you never see anyone go, like.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Like. Because there is that moment if somebody manages to really, like, you know, come up, you know, somebody who's been second place. And it's like, okay, now if Richard bet enough and then you look at him and you're like, I have no idea what's going on in Richard's head right now.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I know. Why are they not dancing a little dance of joy? I can't ever figure out.

[Luke Burbank]

It's somehow their responsibility to not ever let us know what's up until that little thing goes on. Okay, so that was on TV last night. What else?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Okay, so then I wanted to watch the Voice finale because I felt like it's this big thing happening in the country. I love community stuff. I thought, I'm gonna watch it. So I did watch it. I saw the winner. He seems excited. Such a very nice man.

[Luke Burbank]

That's good. You've got a little audio here, just so you know. When you want me to play it.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Oh, go ahead. We'll hear a little bit of this.

[Luke Burbank]

This is the guy who won. Javier.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yeah. And this is a song they had to compete with songs that they wrote. You know, he's got a good, like, kind of babyface Pop Vi.

[Luke Burbank]

Is this contemporary Christian music. It sounds like this could be on spirit.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

It's very positive.

[Luke Burbank]

Alright, so this is the dude who only won a hundred thousand dollars, right? Yeah.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And a recording contract and that kind of thing. And it was sweet because his mentor was Adam Levine. And Adam Levine was like crying and you could tell that he, like, really cared. Like, he really cared about this kid. It wasn't just a paycheck. So that was really sweet. But the thing that I saw that was fascinating, you know, a lot of women wear dresses and shirts that don't have straps and you see them out all the time partying. And what they do constantly is hook their thumbs under the top and hike them up. They hike up their top because they don't have.

[Luke Burbank]

It's a tube top.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

A tube top, basically. Yeah, it's called that tube top in there. But now they're like dresses and all this kind of stuff. So Christina Aguilera, Xtina last night was wearing one of those and she did something I've never seen a woman do. And in full view of the camera, she was standing there and she had been cheering and stuff, so it was slipping a little bit. She just put her hands under her breasts. She just cupped her breasts and she just gave them a big lift.

[Luke Burbank]

Whoa.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Just right on tv.

[Luke Burbank]

Wait, on her own breast or on someone else's breast?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Her own. And I realized afterward, I thought. I think what was most important to her was that she wanted her boobs fluffy. She didn't want them flattened in any way or, you know, so she just gave him a boost right there on television in front of God and everybody. It was so fascinating.

[Luke Burbank]

I mean, if you think about some of the videos that Christina Aguilera has been in in her, like, post ch when she wanted to really reinvent herself and let everyone know she was all grows up, I don't think that probably she feels very self conscious about just lifting and separating right there on national television. I heard that part of why this show was good was because it wasn't in the judges best interest to tear the people down because they're on their team. So, like. Right. Not even the judges, the mentors, I guess, are there judges and mentors?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Well, at the end it was voted on by viewers, but I don't know.

[Luke Burbank]

How it worked along the way because that was something that I heard Ann Power saying on npr was that she liked the format because instead of it being a thing where it's like Simon's there to try to tear the person down in the most creative way possible, you've got Adam Levine and CeeLo and X Tina, really rooting for these people. Really, really rooting for them. And that's kind of a cool thing. You're harnessing the power of being on someone's team.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yeah, well. And it was kind of cool to see the celebrities. You could tell that they had invested in somebody else. And especially at that level of fame, you're investing in yourself most of the time. And you could tell that I think it was really a great opportunity. You could tell that they enjoyed it. They were into it. Like, mentoring this person meant something to them. So that part of it I got into all that, that was kind of cute. But ultimately, I didn't think any of the singers were anybody that will ever hear again.

[Luke Burbank]

There was a lady from around here too, right?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I think. Yeah.

[Luke Burbank]

Vicky or Vici. I've never heard her name spoken. I've just seen it written and it's like V, I, C, C, I, Y. Yeah, probably Vicky. I've been thinking, have I mentioned this on the show or did I just have this thought in my brain that someone is going to name their kid Kevin, but the K is gonna be backwards, like in corn. That's gonna be the new way that.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

People screw with and they're gonna fight with their first grade teacher. No, this is how I write it.

[Luke Burbank]

It's like Korn. Have you seen the band Korn? That's gonna be the new way that we start trying to mess with otherwise normal names. All right, Flash, anything else that we need to throw in before we put a little bow on this bad boy?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Well, I do want to read you one email that I don't know how this will make you feel, but we called Sarah yesterday on Call Makers and she asked if we could call back.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, no.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

We had some fun with that situation. And also because she was apparently at a playdate and this is what she wrote.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, no.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Omg. I'm super duper bummed I couldn't take your call properly. I am a state social worker who sometimes, as today, have to do things like unscheduled visits. Hence the young children. Anyhoo, would love to talk to you guys soon. I feel so special. Thanks, Sarah. So I thought maybe we could bump her back up.

[Luke Burbank]

So when she said, I'm with kids, what she means is I am the only thing standing between a life of horrendous child abuse.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

I just saved these kids out of a dog cage.

[Luke Burbank]

Yeah, so I'm sorry I can't talk to you about my friend owing me money because I am in one of the most undervalued, underpaid, overly important jobs possible. Social worker.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

Yep.

[Luke Burbank]

Is it too late to go back and edit yesterday's show?

[Jen Flash Andrews]

We can just do the dump button. It's no problem. Just dump it.

[Luke Burbank]

Oh, Scarborough, I'm sorry. Okay, we'll totally call her back. Well, we can't say next week because we have to have the mystery. Could be next week.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

It could be.

[Luke Burbank]

Could be.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

But Sarah is definitely back on the list.

[Luke Burbank]

Could be a crackhead that got hold to the wrong stuff. And decided to play a leprechaun. All right, that's it on this Thursday. Thanks for bearing with us. Sorry it was so scattered. I'm apologizing to Jen, not you, the listeners. You guys are lucky you get any of this. You are lucky, lucky people. Have a great Thursday. We will be right back here tomorrow with more imaginary radio for you. Oh, a little scheduling problema. We weren't able to hook up with our friend Dan and Mark. Our friends Dan and Mark from the Sporkville. We're doing something with them next week, so don't you fear. And I think that's. That's it. That's all the radio I have in me for one day. So I want you guys to know that I. I left it all on the field for you. This is what dedication sounds like. And also this is what running out of things to say sounds like. Have a great Thursday. We'll see you tomorrow. Remember, no mountain too tall.

[Jen Flash Andrews]

And good luck to all.

[Luke Burbank]

Indeed.