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Ming Chen
Look how mad he is already.
Bry
We're 90. Worked up about it. Yeah. I haven't gotten worked up about anything in a while.
Ming Chen
Yeah,
Bry
We.
Walt Flanagan
We see a woman now, we just go like, what the fuck was. And you like. Your bones get softer too, right? You got a soft bone.
Bry
Soft bone chin. Don't worry, we have a blue chew coming up.
Gidam
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Tell Them Steve Dave.
Bry
Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Tell Them Steve Dave with me, Bri and Walt.
Walt Flanagan
Hello.
Gidam
And get him how you Stankin and
Bry
Walt when Q can't make it. And this is one of those weeks, what better fill in than the Maverick himself, Ming Chen.
Ming Chen
Hello, everybody. This is Ming Chen. I love. So if Q can't make it on the. On the backup, the pinch hitter, the.
Walt Flanagan
The Sunday couldn't make it either.
Ming Chen
Oh,
Gidam
kidding.
Walt Flanagan
You are first choice. No, no, I'm only teasing.
Gidam
I was surprised Ming wasn't invited to the New Jersey roast being the Maverick.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, yeah, the roast of New Jersey that Q went to.
Ming Chen
Did you get her invite? No, I did not get an invite. I heard about it. I was told about it. Was not invited to it.
Walt Flanagan
How come?
Ming Chen
I don't know. I. I guess I just. I don't have those chops.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, you got those chops.
Bry
I thought you meant, like to be in the audience. That's really what I thought.
Gidam
You mean. No, I meant to perform.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, I meant to get.
Ming Chen
No, they didn't give. They offer me a free ticket. That's how far off I was.
Bry
Wow. What were the benefits that came along with being the Maverick? Aside from the plaque that was now a trophy?
Ming Chen
And then everyone calls me the Maverick now. That's the benefit.
Bry
That's the benefit.
Ming Chen
Thanks to you guys. Yeah, you guys popularized the term. So. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Fresh off the cruise of usq. Cruise.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
How was it?
Ming Chen
It was fun. It was fun. Definitely. You guys were missed. You guys were brought up where, you know, you think the guys would come on the next one. A lot of you have a lot of fans there. There's a lot of Tom Steve's fans. A lot of. A lot of ant shirts. Rent a lot of ants.
Walt Flanagan
What were your. Some of your duties while on board? Did you have any set? Because. And I talked to you before you left, you said you didn't really have any firm scheduled events or anything. So what did you do to pass the time or earn your. Your room and board?
Ming Chen
I. So I didn't have any responsibilities. It was awesome. It was awesome. Didn't get. Didn't really get roped in Anything. And yeah, my job was to go to as many scheduled events as I could.
Walt Flanagan
You're like Kim Kardashian. You just need to show up. You don't have to do anything. You just got to be there.
Ming Chen
That was great, man. Was getting. And then get free. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Did you get free, too?
Ming Chen
I. I mean, I got free cruise. A free three thousand dollar cruise. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
That was nice.
Ming Chen
Yeah, I can't complain about that. Yeah, they. They had like. They had like 13 guests there, so I didn't. Yeah, they didn't need me. They didn't need.
Bry
Still brought you anyway, though.
Ming Chen
They did.
Bry
So you had some value, man.
Ming Chen
I guess either they wanted to make the boat look full, like, see receiver.
Bry
We need one more guy.
Gidam
It's a lifeboat feller.
Ming Chen
We need one more who's guaranteed to show up and not say no and do whatever.
Walt Flanagan
Did you do any karaoke? Nothing.
Ming Chen
I did karaoke. Yeah. Yeah, I did that. And yeah, I mingled. But yeah, it was very much Kim Kardashian. It was pretty awesome. I get it. I get it.
Walt Flanagan
Nice. Yeah, it's great work if you can get it right.
Ming Chen
Yeah. But yeah, whenever I run into Thompson's Dave fans, like, how do we get Walt on the next.
Walt Flanagan
Really? See, I feel that that's why I cannot go to any of these things, like the View Askew Cruise or Q West, because I keep the mystique alive that way. Like, if I never show up, then there's always the clamoring.
Bry
If I show up, are you officially declining Key west right now?
Walt Flanagan
But then they're like, if I come, then the mystique is shattered. Then they're like, oh, my God. I asked for him to come countless times, and this is what he's really like when he's on an event. Yeah. This way I keep that mystery and that kind of vibe going of like, one day he'll show up and it'll be amazing. But if I do show up, it won't be amazing. So it's like I have to not show up. Yeah, that's the key.
Bry
That's how you get people to keep liking you by not interacting with you.
Walt Flanagan
Yes.
Ming Chen
But we were trying to think of ways to get you on there. Like, what would get Walt Flanagan on this phone?
Bry
Let me guess. Somebody suggested drugging him. Like, B.A. brock.
Gidam
I'm just gonna say that. Mr. T. Matt.
Ming Chen
I was like, we don't have to fly. These guys have driven down to Florida. That's not really a problem. But I was talking to our friend Savon. He's like, I got it. What if they came up. They let him emcee game shows on the boat. You could bring all your own games.
Walt Flanagan
So. Yeah. So then it becomes one real job. I want the Ming Chen fucking gig where I just show up and not do anything. I have the noble responsibility, and I can leave whatever I want.
Ming Chen
Like Family Feud, all these. Get them, Tracian, Take over the boat.
Bry
Get them, Tre.
Walt Flanagan
No, thank you. That's. That's like more work that I'm doing right now than it sounds like.
Ming Chen
I guess so. But that somebody came up with that. I was like, he might go for it if you got the mc.
Walt Flanagan
I can't. I just have to never show up to any event. And that just keeps the excitement, you know, at a. At a fever pitch.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Well, good thing.
Walt Flanagan
And the anticipation.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
That I might just do it one year.
Bry
Next year's a year when they. When we had. What was it? What were we celebrating? That day that we went down to Kevin's theater.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, that was curator's event.
Bry
Curators. Curators event. That's right. Yeah.
Gidam
Antstravaganza.
Bry
Antstravaganza. Yeah. Like, there's one where you showed up. Nobody expected it.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Bry
Then you were in and out, in and out.
Walt Flanagan
Yep.
Bry
You weren't trapped on a boat for four days.
Gidam
No WI fi.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, you get WI fi in a boat?
Gidam
Yeah, you told me, you know, you never get wifi. That's why you don't answer my notes.
Walt Flanagan
I'll just tell you that. I just tell you that because I don't feel like answering about the yarn lady and your battles about the thermostat in the hallway.
Ming Chen
Great excuse. I didn't want to pay $200 for the Wi FI package. That's why I didn't. That's why it was out of communication. Yeah. Well, you guys were missed, so it would have been. Would have been nice to have you guys.
Walt Flanagan
That's nice to hear. It's always nice to be missed. Rather than the opposite where they're like, I'm so glad they're not here.
Ming Chen
I did not hear that once.
Walt Flanagan
So what else is going on with Ming Chen? I think.
Ming Chen
I think that's it. You know, doing cons, podcasts.
Walt Flanagan
I thought you were slowing down. You haven't slowed down at all.
Ming Chen
I slowed down a little bit.
Walt Flanagan
You did not slow down.
Ming Chen
I don't think I'm gonna be going to as many as I did last year. I did 37 last year. God damn. Was a lot.
Walt Flanagan
And so what are you planning on this year then if you did 37 last year, what is your.
Ming Chen
Maybe 20?
Gidam
What are you up to now?
Ming Chen
I think I did two.
Walt Flanagan
I count the, the cruise, though, as an event though. You can't say.
Ming Chen
No, that counts. That definitely counts. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You did more than two so far in 20, 26.
Ming Chen
2.
Walt Flanagan
You did more than two weekends where you were away?
Ming Chen
Oh, sure. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. So so far.
Ming Chen
Yeah, yeah, that was Albuquerque. I did the cruise. I think that was it. Maybe there was one more.
Gidam
You were at Smart Castle the other day. I saw.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Does that, that don't count though.
Gidam
Okay. Still wasn't home for the weekend.
Ming Chen
That don't count. So I think I've been to two or three. I might in there, but yeah, it's good. You know, that means I get to be here more with. Hanging out with you guys.
Walt Flanagan
I've been here a lot, but that's why I'm holding your feet to the fire, because I'm. Like you said, you're going to slow down and you're still not around.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Well, I'm here and happy to be here now.
Bry
Do you miss it? Because you were like, you went. Were going hot and heavy for years.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
So do you miss it now? Like the slowed down pace, like.
Ming Chen
No, not really.
Walt Flanagan
He's not slowed down though. Like he's still going like a mile a minute. How is this slowing down?
Bry
He's only been to two or three of us.
Ming Chen
Yeah, Two or three. Yeah.
Bry
As many months. Yeah. Like he was going every other week.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Bry
Sometimes more.
Ming Chen
No. It's nice being back here. It's nice hanging out with you guys. It's nice being on call as a third stringer.
Bry
Now was this your decision solely or was there any, say, spousal input?
Ming Chen
No, no, not at all.
Bry
No, I think.
Ming Chen
No, no, I think. I mean, I'm sure my wife likes having me home more, but.
Bry
Sure about that?
Walt Flanagan
I'm pretty sure.
Ming Chen
I'm pretty sure.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Ming Chen
But there was never. Yeah. You know, as I kept going, there was never any pushback that I was going too much.
Walt Flanagan
Wow.
Bry
Okay. That's an understanding wife. Debbie Chen is something else, huh?
Ming Chen
She is.
Bry
She is. I couldn't get away with that.
Walt Flanagan
You couldn't?
Bry
No. Really like being away that long. And I never bring her ever. 37 weeks out of the year now, she wouldn't like that. Wow.
Gidam
Ming was in the air for 10 days in 20, 25.
Ming Chen
Yeah. If you added up all the flights,
Gidam
all the hours, 10 days, total 93 flights.
Walt Flanagan
That changes your, your body, though, when you're in the. When you're in the air that much,
Ming Chen
probably not good for you. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Like, it's like being in space.
Gidam
Yeah. You get exposed to a lot more
Walt Flanagan
radiation and, like, your bones get softer, too. Right. You got a soft bone.
Bry
Soft bone chin.
Gidam
Don't worry.
Bry
We have a blue chewing coming up.
Gidam
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Tdsd.
Bry
Yeah.
Ming Chen
What am I looking at here? Get him. Brittle bones. Osteoporosis.
Gidam
OPL. Apparently it affects Asians.
Ming Chen
Really?
Gidam
Same thing I.
Ming Chen
What's OPL? Oh, yeah.
Gidam
Ossification of the posterior ligament.
Ming Chen
All right, I better watch it. Keep my neck up.
Gidam
Start losing feeling in your feet and your penis.
Ming Chen
And where does the radiation exposure come from?
Walt Flanagan
Is that true?
Gidam
What?
Ming Chen
And.
Walt Flanagan
And the little. Get them.
Ming Chen
Also went. Infected your penis.
Gidam
Oh, yeah. I was losing. Yeah. I was dribbling.
Walt Flanagan
Not a. Not a. Like a DEFCON 4 situation, I think
Gidam
so
Walt Flanagan
If I don't feel it, it doesn't exist.
Bry
I can't see it. I can't feel it.
Gidam
But, no, the radiation comes from space.
Ming Chen
Oh.
Gidam
Just because you're that much closer and you're. You know, the aluminum isn't that much of a shield.
Ming Chen
Right.
Gidam
So.
Bry
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Wow. Okay.
Gidam
That's why pilots don't get it. To opt out of the scanning at the airports because they get exposed to so much radiation while they're flying.
Ming Chen
All right. So no, no. No X rays.
Gidam
No extra X rays.
Ming Chen
Right?
Bry
Yeah.
Ming Chen
All right, I'll start. I better watch it then.
Bry
It's too late for you.
Ming Chen
Yeah. It's been fried to a crisp.
Bry
Yeah. Ming talking about flying.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Bry
It's rare that I read a headline and I get a smile and I'm like, yes, finally.
Ming Chen
That rarely happens.
Bry
Yeah. United finally implemented a ban on people listening to their devices without headphones.
Ming Chen
Thank God.
Bry
Is there any bigger asshole on earth than a person who goes to a restaurant or in an airplane or a train or any number of public places and they don't use buds?
Ming Chen
I think it's one of the worst things you can do in public. Yes. It's beyond annoying. I'm not. I'm not easily annoyed, but, yeah, it happens every so often.
Walt Flanagan
I didn't realize this was a big issue out there. I've never been exposed to somebody who listening or watching something that was so loud that I was like, oh, my God, what's with this guy?
Gidam
It's not that it's loud. It's just that it's. It's there.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
It's distracting. And if you get a couple people doing it, you know, everybody's doing it.
Gidam
Like the people who, who sit there and hold their phones as they're talking on it because they're on speakerphone, because they can't just hold it up to the ear. They got to do that, keep doing this.
Bry
Yeah. Because everybody wants to hear their conversation.
Ming Chen
Yeah. And you're trapped in a metal tin can.
Walt Flanagan
Okay, but. Okay, I can see it on an airplane. But, like, when you're out, like, these guys aren't on airplanes. Where is this happening that you're so annoying?
Bry
No, I'll go on airplanes.
Walt Flanagan
Well, not that man. Not as many as Ming Chad.
Bry
No, I'm no Ming Chan, that's for sure.
Walt Flanagan
What about him? Let's see, you've been on one airplane in the last, like, 15 years when he went to QS.
Gidam
QS, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
So what's one one irksome.
Bry
He doesn't like it when people do it in the office.
Gidam
No, I just don't like it. Like when I'm doing. When I'm shopping. It's. It's. Yeah, like, you're just. Yeah. Like you said, like, they're carrying on full conversations about people that they hate and stuff. And it's just. You almost want to join in just to get them to realize, you know, what they're exposing.
Ming Chen
Yeah. With all the technology out there, you could get Raycons.
Gidam
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Gidam
I love my Raycons.
Ming Chen
Yeah. You get $5 earbuds from the. The convenience store and I mean, Christ.
Bry
They give them to you on the airplane.
Ming Chen
Yeah, give them to you on the airplane.
Bry
I read a short article about a lady who was kicked off American Airlines plane. I think because she was playing her. Her phone. And her defense was, this was only my second warning. It's like, you're a fucking adult, for Christ's sakes. First, you shouldn't have to be told once. No, that's common courtesy. But if you are told once, turn it the fuck off.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Bry
And cut the shit.
Ming Chen
I agree.
Gidam
I.
Ming Chen
Look how mad he is already.
Bry
We're not even trying to get worked up about it. Yeah. I haven't gotten worked up about anything in a while.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
This is it.
Ming Chen
I love it.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Ming Chen
What I'm here for.
Walt Flanagan
I feel I have the ability to drown it out.
Bry
Yeah, not me.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, I can. I don't. I don't think I'd even notice it. It's probably going on all around me, and I kind of just like, you know, just like, close my ears to it.
Bry
They got to you, man. They have you hypnotized for some of their fucking.
Walt Flanagan
I Don't know if it's. Hypnotized is the right word.
Bry
Mesmerized.
Walt Flanagan
It's just the. I don't know. Yeah, I just don't. If I don't want to hear it, I don't. I have. I can not hear it.
Ming Chen
Yeah, but, like, on an airplane, it's pretty quiet on there. You know, you hear the drone of the plane, but it's very noticeable, and it's annoying as hell.
Bry
Yeah. There's enough noise on a plane as it is.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
We don't need to hear, like, competing to, like, you know, YouTube or whatever.
Ming Chen
Yeah. I'm surprised it took this long to go into official policy.
Gidam
They don't want to offend anybody.
Bry
You want to offend people that do it.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Good on United, though. I hope this. All the other airlines, I'm sure will.
Bry
Other airlines should follow suit.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
They're gonna ban them.
Gidam
The passengers. Yeah.
Ming Chen
It's gonna happen. Throw them on the no fly list. Yeah.
Bry
They should be on the same list as terrorists, I think.
Ming Chen
Yeah, I think so.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Bry
I was wondering on the way. And Walt, I'm sure you see this guy, the dude dressed up like Statue of Liberty, and the tax guy.
Walt Flanagan
The tax guy trying to get people to notice the tax company he's promoting.
Bry
He has an arrow.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Bry
And on the arrow, it says, file today. And, you know, he's sort of pointing it in the general direction of the tax place as an advertising medium. How effective do you think that is? How many people walk in and like, hey, I saw your guy, and I need to file my taxes. So one plus one.
Walt Flanagan
The conversions, I have to think, are pretty low. I don't think it would sway. I think it would actually, like, deter me from going to that place because I'm just like, this is cruel and unusual fucking punishment. I think, because the guy can't sit down, apparently, or he's allowed to sit down for, like, a second or. I think there's rules that you have to be moving and holding a sign to be in that corner for that long. It's a. It's a very unusual tactic that I'm surprised has been adopted by so many businesses, like furniture stores going out of business to use it. Any number of places I've seen utilize the. Like, they must go to, like, the methadone clinic and be like, hey, do you want to hold the sign for eight hours?
Bry
I think you're right.
Ming Chen
You know, for 20 bucks, no experience necessary. We take all criminal records.
Bry
Yeah, I'm with you. I think that I Would not guess that that place was reputable. And because it is cruel. Like, I mean, today it's beautiful out for some reason. It's 70 degrees out today. The sun's out, shining. It's great here. But there are many days when that's not the case. And you see these people out in like 20, 25 degree weather, freezing their asses off.
Walt Flanagan
Like a foam costume of the statue.
Bry
Yeah, like the foam hat, like little hair band thing.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. And they have a. And they can stop to take a drink, but they have to be like. As long as they're moving their arm, you know, some sort of gyro gyration movement, they're technically, I think, able to stand there with a sign. You can't sit with a sign, though. You have to be standing.
Bry
Gotta be weird.
Walt Flanagan
New Jersey law.
Bry
I mean, the only reason they make laws like that. Right. Is because too many people were sitting down.
Walt Flanagan
I. I really don't know. I don't understand.
Ming Chen
Oh.
Bry
Oh.
Gidam
For those who don't know, we're showing the day in the life of the Office Coach where I was out on Route 36 with an arrow pointing to the TSD General Store.
Bry
What was your conversion rate?
Gidam
Zero. Negative.
Ming Chen
Yeah. How many people came in here bought. Bought hats and Baron pop figures?
Walt Flanagan
Hot.
Gidam
Hal,
Bry
you are.
Ming Chen
Well, I mean, you liked it though? You were out there?
Gidam
Oh, yeah, I was having fun.
Walt Flanagan
It was the middle of summer though. Believe me, when that camera went off, he collapsed.
Bry
Oh, he's dancing. He's picking up.
Walt Flanagan
This is the era of getting. When he could dance.
Gidam
Yeah, I'm getting back there slowly.
Ming Chen
What about when you were directing traffic and doing kung fu? Was it. Was it.
Gidam
I couldn't do that because that would scare the horses. Any large sign would have scared the horse.
Ming Chen
But was it inclement weather when you did that or.
Gidam
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like I was out there, rain or shine, directing traffic.
Bry
And the thing like, I mean, it's good if, like, if you have an intersection and you can get a couple people to see it, it's great. I guess we were lucky. For the most part, people are speeding by at 50 miles an hour. Like, what'd that say? Where am I supposed to go?
Walt Flanagan
So with you slowing down now, Maverick.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Would you maybe pick up a couple weekends and a Statue of Liberty foam costume?
Bry
You're gonna dress as a butterfly? Why not?
Ming Chen
Between then going back to cons,
Walt Flanagan
you know you wouldn't.
Ming Chen
Well, it's a tough choice.
Walt Flanagan
Easy though.
Ming Chen
Sweating my ass off, spitting a sign, or getting treated like you Know, like
Gidam
treated like royalty at a con where people are bringing him drinks and stuff.
Ming Chen
Yeah, I know. Tough choice.
Walt Flanagan
Well, is it? I. I didn't want to ask the tough question.
Ming Chen
Okay, you.
Walt Flanagan
You can decline. Is it. Is the slowdown like your choice or is it. Is it the cons being like, there's just not as many cons nowadays.
Ming Chen
Mainly my choice. There's definitely no shortage of conventions.
Gidam
Really.
Walt Flanagan
There's still like, I would think that that window starting to close as the hobby starts. I hear it's. It's struggling.
Ming Chen
It's not struggling. There's actually more competition.
Walt Flanagan
I don't mean con wise. I'm talking about comics and.
Ming Chen
Oh yeah, I think comics, sure. But these conventions are all pop culture cons now, so as long as there's movies and TV out there and the
Bry
guests are a big draw too, right?
Gidam
Yeah.
Ming Chen
And the. There's more competition now since Hollywood's kind of dried up, there's no work. You'll start seeing names like Sus and Sarandon and Gina Davis.
Walt Flanagan
And that hurts the mavericks asking price. Gina Davis is like, I'm willing to come to a con now. And you got. Well, let's see. We got the. For the budget. We. Can we budget. Can we budget a maverick when we got Gina Davis?
Ming Chen
Yeah, yeah. If you got Thelma and Louise versus. She's like a triple threat versus Ming Chen and Mike Zapsyk.
Walt Flanagan
That's.
Ming Chen
Yeah, that's really no competition there, unfortunately.
Walt Flanagan
I.
Ming Chen
Maybe we drove a convertible off a cliff. Maybe, Maybe then. But yeah, I don't think.
Gidam
Let me check my spam folder. Maybe there's an invited.
Ming Chen
Actually, yeah. Some of these names are getting bigger.
Walt Flanagan
Does that, does that irk you when you see those big name shows?
Ming Chen
A little bit. Yeah. Where, you know, a year or two ago, you're like, man, this was. You were too good for this. Oh, now you, you know, you need to pay your mortgage and pay your butler and, you know. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You were just paying your. You just need a gas money and they're. This is butler money for them.
Bry
Yeah, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Take a money out of your mouth.
Ming Chen
I gotta maintain my cyber truck like all this. Yeah, it's. It's tough, man. It's. It's tough.
Walt Flanagan
Speaking of Mike's apps, I had any.
Ming Chen
I've seen him see.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, yeah, yeah. I've been by the store and still everything's great.
Ming Chen
Everything's good. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Nice.
Ming Chen
Yeah. He. Well, I think the other week he seemed especially happy. I'm like, what's going on? He's like, those Guys are mad at you, aren't they? He thought. He thought after, I think that one potty thought you guys were mad at me, so that made him happy. Whatever makes you happy, dude.
Walt Flanagan
He thought that TSD was made at the Maverick.
Ming Chen
Yeah?
Walt Flanagan
What gave him that idea?
Ming Chen
I don't know. I guess someone must have gave him bad intel. Maybe.
Walt Flanagan
I know there's ants out there that do feed him. Oh, sure, sure.
Bry
He's got double agents.
Walt Flanagan
You got to hear what they said about you this week.
Bry
Oh, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You didn't, like, set him straight, though. You didn't say, like, why. Why are you playing into that? You're letting him believe that we're married.
Ming Chen
Listen, if he's happy and Happy Mike
Bry
happy, happy Mike happy life.
Ming Chen
Yes, that's exactly it.
Walt Flanagan
Yes, that's a Freudian slip.
Ming Chen
But, yeah, if he's happy, I'm happy.
Bry
Really?
Walt Flanagan
Wow. What kind of mindset do you have to have that if Mike Sapsk's happy, you're happy?
Bry
Listen, I'm trying to think of the circumstances.
Ming Chen
That's just how it is now.
Walt Flanagan
What kind of fucking Hampshire wheel is in that cranium? That's all it takes is to know that if Mike's happy, he's happy.
Bry
Checking his Facebook and shit. You know what kind of days have it.
Ming Chen
Everything good? Okay. Good.
Bry
Good. Yeah, Deb, we can breathe now. Mike's okay.
Ming Chen
He's in a good mood today.
Walt Flanagan
That tickles me a little bit.
Ming Chen
It was like that with you for a little bit, like, oh, man, the devil's lost. I can't go in the store today.
Walt Flanagan
You would. You would avoid me. The devil's lost. You really thought that I would. I would take it out on you?
Gidam
He was lucky you'd be in a
Ming Chen
bad mood when you were really.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Ming Chen
You know, when you were really.
Walt Flanagan
No, but that wasn't bad for over 20 years.
Ming Chen
Put you in a bad mood pre2010, pre colon shock. Yeah, you were. You're. You, you, you're.
Walt Flanagan
And you. You would be like, they won. They won last night. I'll go into the store. Or if they lost, like, if they. I'm not going to go into the
Ming Chen
store if they lost. I knew if I came in before, like, one, like, I might hit you might be moody. And then afterwards, just because it was
Walt Flanagan
before one and I was still.
Ming Chen
Sure, sure. But I know there's a little.
Walt Flanagan
That, like, it kind of upsets me, though, that I was that out of control, that is that, like, irrational, like, they avoided me because the devil's lost
Gidam
amongst Other things.
Walt Flanagan
Is that your mindset when I'm. When I'm pissy to you or you're like out of devils? Must have lost last night.
Bry
Any number of things.
Gidam
I just knew it wasn't my fault.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, yeah, you're blameless. Have you been listening to the pod?
Ming Chen
Did you listen to last week's while we guys talking about big tampons and. Yes.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, you just listened to the fucking title? You just read the title.
Ming Chen
You didn't listen to it? I listened to it as much as I could on the way over, about 20 minutes.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, so you didn't get into it. Okay.
Bry
All right.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Listen, how can you avoid it? How can you avoid it?
Walt Flanagan
Avoid what?
Ming Chen
Him.
Bry
Oh, there's a breakdown. Ming at the end of the episode of Of Gidham. And his. His psychological.
Walt Flanagan
He got a 1984 psychological evaluation.
Ming Chen
All right.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. So we're calling to try and adhere to the doctor's orders.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Walt Flanagan
From 1984. They've been ignored for this many years. So I feel it's time that somebody at least take these. These measures like the recommendations from the doctor, to actually implement them.
Bry
Right.
Walt Flanagan
That's what we're trying to do now.
Ming Chen
Good. Good luck. Good luck.
Gidam
Going good.
Walt Flanagan
Really? Yeah. Get him. I had to get him over to the house the other day just to come over.
Ming Chen
Okay. And you actually called him and made
Bry
there wasn't a bird in your flu? Nothing like that.
Walt Flanagan
I picked him up. Chilled out.
Ming Chen
Set time.
Bry
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
We had conversation. Right.
Ming Chen
Okay. No falling.
Gidam
Hung out with your wife.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Wow.
Ming Chen
All right. No falling asleep in the car outside. That's okay.
Bry
I fell asleep when he was there.
Walt Flanagan
I was laying down on my daughter's. But he was built. He was actually making a crib for me, not for me. Together.
Bry
That's all making sense.
Walt Flanagan
I laid down on my daughter's bed and I fell asleep.
Gidam
Because you had Teddy with you.
Walt Flanagan
I had Teddy laying on. I think Teddy started snoring. The next thing I know, I'm snoring.
Bry
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
And it was like it was 2 o' clock and all of a sudden it became 6 o'.
Ming Chen
Clock.
Bry
Get him. Good conversation. Is it time to take you back to the office?
Walt Flanagan
You feel better?
Ming Chen
I know I feel better.
Bry
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Good job, Garam.
Gidam
I try.
Bry
How do you do with the crib? Looking good.
Walt Flanagan
Absolutely exquisite. And we would only put Oliver in a crib built by Gidham stick.
Bry
Really?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. For fear that any other slack jawed yokel putting it together, you know, wouldn't put as much time. And that little extra elbow Grease and making sure the nuts and bolts are tight.
Bry
Nice and tight.
Ming Chen
Right.
Gidam
Attention to detail. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Yep.
Bry
All right, get him. Did it.
Ming Chen
Good job. Get him, get him.
Bry
While you're working on that, did you have time to solve the mystery of the missing dish soap?
Gidam
No, I did not.
Walt Flanagan
What was that?
Bry
I've heard this, I heard this around that Gittam left his dish soap in the women's room.
Gidam
No, I didn't leave my dish soap. What?
Bry
And then when it was gone, he freaked out.
Gidam
So explain. Okay, so the men's room only has a. What is it that like the hand operated.
Ming Chen
Yeah, it's a dispenser.
Gidam
No, no, no, no, no. The sink itself, you gotta like constantly run your.
Ming Chen
It's a motion.
Gidam
The ladies room, on the other hand, has handles. So when you want to like wash dishes or something, you can turn the hot water on and you get hot water.
Bry
Your body
Walt Flanagan
hobo bath.
Ming Chen
Okay, understood. So you can keep the flow of water going.
Gidam
Yeah. So yeah. So you get a hot water. So I have my own dish soap, but I know other people go in there and wash dishes or used to go in there and wash dishes. So I decided I'll say, let me just leave like a 99 cent bottle of dish soap. Because there's also. There's hand soap. Yeah, yeah, there's hand soap. And I was like, let me just leave some dish soap. Yeah, So I left some dish soap.
Walt Flanagan
Thinking about the other residents of the plaza besides himself.
Bry
So. Not forgotten. Left there on purpose.
Gidam
Yes, yes. I even wrote second floor ladies room on it in a Sharpie marker.
Ming Chen
Very generous of you.
Gidam
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Gidam
Within 24 hours was gone.
Ming Chen
Wow.
Gidam
Stolen.
Ming Chen
Wow. So back up. You're allowed in the women's room here.
Gidam
I go in there after 10 o'. Clock.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Gidam
I always knock, you know, if I don't see if the light's off, I just go straight in. But if the light's on, I knock, I go housekeeping.
Walt Flanagan
But it's not inaccurate.
Ming Chen
No, I'm watching things. I guess.
Bry
So.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Gidam
You know, just so that.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Gidam
And hola. Yeah. As long as nobody responds, then, you know, I go in.
Bry
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
To his defense, though, there are. Now that the yarn lady's gone, it basically is a fucking all dong action in the airport plaza. Like we don't like. Yeah. We see a woman now, we just go like, what the fuck was that?
Bry
Like, it's been so long. Lady that works downstairs and that's it.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, like we don't see many women up here.
Ming Chen
Right. So my question is all hot dog action. How did you find out that the sinks in the women's room don't automatically shut off?
Gidam
Because I went in there one time because the men's room was. The lock was broken on the men's room.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Gidam
So we had to go into the. Use the ladies room if we had to use the bathroom.
Ming Chen
Okay. So this is sanctioned.
Gidam
Yes.
Ming Chen
Building.
Gidam
Well, not by the building.
Ming Chen
Like, oh, you were like, I gotta
Walt Flanagan
go, I gotta go. Nature calls. Okay. And you know there's no women in the fucking room.
Gidam
There's like.
Walt Flanagan
You wouldn't, you wouldn't go in.
Gidam
I'm.
Walt Flanagan
Bullshit. Bullshit.
Ming Chen
There's only one. And there's only one restroom in this building.
Walt Flanagan
No one was in.
Gidam
There's the men's room and the ladies room.
Walt Flanagan
Right. It was unusable because we couldn't get
Ming Chen
in the lockers broken. But that's the only set of restrooms in this whole.
Gidam
That we have access to.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
There's another restroom on the other side of the building, but we don't have a key to it though.
Gidam
No, I think.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, they kept us away from it for some reason.
Gidam
Well, I think that's for that side of the building. Like the sticker guy used to use it. The tax people downstairs use it.
Ming Chen
Okay. Yeah, but I love. Like you've basically set up an office and they're like Fonzie and shit.
Gidam
All the graffiti on the wal up your nose with a rubber hose.
Walt Flanagan
Was it.
Gidam
Stick it,
Walt Flanagan
stick it.
Ming Chen
Wow. So are you. Are you. Are there any suspects? Cuz aren't you kind of like the security guard around here now?
Gidam
We now have a new security guard.
Ming Chen
Like a real licensed and bonded.
Gidam
Well, I am. I am licensed by the state of New Jersey as a security guard? Yes.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. Are you certain that license hasn't expired especially.
Gidam
No, I renew it every two years.
Walt Flanagan
I know, but if they knew your health conditions, there's no way they'd license.
Gidam
There is no.
Walt Flanagan
They would revoke that shit.
Ming Chen
There's no physical requirement?
Gidam
No, it just. It's actually. It's a knowledge requirement. I can. It's a knowledge requirement. You have to go through 24 hours training every two years. Okay.
Ming Chen
Yeah, it's like all online, I imagine.
Gidam
What do you mean?
Ming Chen
The training?
Gidam
No, you have to go into a class.
Walt Flanagan
Wow.
Ming Chen
And what's the class like?
Gidam
It's just a lot of it. Some of the. Most of it doesn't apply to you.
Walt Flanagan
If a train leaves the station at some.
Gidam
No, like, it's like the last one, it had modules on like how to tell if a cargo containers been tampered with.
Walt Flanagan
Really?
Gidam
And stuff like that.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, it's all common sense. You. You feel?
Gidam
I feel, yeah. And it's number one. It doesn't apply to me, but yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Why doesn't apply to you?
Gidam
Because none of my security jobs involve shipping containers and checking seals and stuff like that. I truly. I. I never know. You don't want to. Like, I'd love a nice dock job. Those are.
Ming Chen
You want a no show dog job?
Walt Flanagan
He's already got a no show here. I mean, no shows.
Ming Chen
Does he need.
Gidam
Need.
Bry
He's mobbed up.
Gidam
Yeah, actually, I have to go again. This year.
Walt Flanagan
You will fail.
Gidam
What?
Walt Flanagan
You. Why didn't you shamble in over. You're like, oh my God. We cannot with good conscious give this guy did his check clear.
Gidam
Okay. He's good.
Ming Chen
Is there like an exam at the end? You have to. Okay.
Gidam
Yeah. It's so easy.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Gidam
Yeah, the initial one was pretty tough because you have to go through. I think it was 48 hours of work, which is why you don't want to let it expire. Because if you let expire, you have to go through all that all over again.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Gidam
So I've had it active since like 2012.
Bry
Wow.
Ming Chen
And they get like a certificate at the end.
Gidam
You used to get a card. Now they don't do a card. It's all on. It's an online.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Gidam
So. Which is upsetting because I. That actually helps sometimes.
Walt Flanagan
Right.
Gidam
Because it's issued by the state police, so I could use that as ID for like the six points of driver's license.
Ming Chen
Yeah, yeah.
Bry
So hear the collective. Yeah. I'm almost falling asleep here.
Ming Chen
There's a real security guard here now.
Gidam
Yeah.
Ming Chen
And you get along with he or
Walt Flanagan
she's got a real security guard here. Don't perpetuate lies.
Gidam
Well, I walk. I do walk the floor. And yeah, so did you.
Bry
Oh, so you were referring to yourself. There's not somebody else who also does?
Gidam
Well now. Now there is. Okay.
Walt Flanagan
But going back to the dishwashing and the investigation, who are your leads? Like, who are you targeting as? Do you think Flo just took it on her way out?
Bry
She's like, for sure he would have a corkboard up here with the yarn and everything.
Gidam
But to me, I don't have access to yarn anymore.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, our lady left. She took all the yarn off our
Gidam
cork board I used to pull out of her trash. Now there's none.
Walt Flanagan
But let's say the yarn lady kind of in a state of Emotional distress. You know, she's retiring after 40 years in the building. Was like, you know what? I'm taking this just because I need to take something. I need this. I need this. Feel like I'm getting over.
Gidam
I need some memory of the man.
Walt Flanagan
I'm getting over on the man.
Bry
Like, when people steal office supplies.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. Would it be that big a deal? Let her have the dish detergent.
Bry
Or maybe she came back and as revenge, she took it because she's like, where's my sandwich board?
Gidam
She had just asked. I would have told her, as soon as Q said, take that sandwich board, I was downstairs.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You can't really bitch and moan if someone steals your fucking plant or you. Your dish detergent, because you're taking sandwich boards left and right. There was every sandwich board that's on the front. You're like, you're eyeing up. Is like, I'm stealing that.
Gidam
There was a note on the plant that said it belonged to this.
Bry
I've been in business for a long time.
Gidam
There was a note on that plant, and the guy ripped a note off.
Bry
Oh, was that the one that said, I have a home or whatever? Oh, and he took it off and stole your plant.
Gidam
The dentist. The dentist on this floor took the plant.
Bry
Really?
Gidam
Yeah.
Bry
No idea.
Gidam
When I found out he took it, he was like, can I keep it? Do you want it back? I was like, yes, I want the plant back.
Walt Flanagan
I would have been like, keep it. Yeah, just take it.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
He wanted it that bad, he was probably going to give it a lot of love, more attention than you do.
Gidam
Because the person who took the Lenzicato, they killed it.
Bry
Oh, God, not the Lenzicato.
Walt Flanagan
I don't mean to be mean. You've been awesome. You're a great guy, but I think you're killing the vibe of the show. We got the Maverick here, and he hasn't even spoken. Because you're going on about plants and fucking nonsense.
Gidam
Okay, fine.
Bry
Let me see if I can liven it up with a spot.
Ming Chen
All right, what do we got this week?
Bry
Oh, Ming, you're going to be happy to hear this. We got Squarespace.
Ming Chen
Oh, all right. Building websites.
Bry
Yeah, I know that you use Squarespace.
Walt Flanagan
I do remember you used to call Eric Square Dick.
Bry
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Yeah, Eric.
Walt Flanagan
When's the last time you called your brother, like, square dick?
Bry
In a while. The cubicle. Cubicle.
Walt Flanagan
You should just text him, hey, what's up, Square Dick? Just to see what he says. See if he's like, aw, damn it.
Ming Chen
I thought he'd stop calling me that?
Walt Flanagan
No, I think it'd be heartwarming. He's like, oh my God, does Pam
Gidam
Pro and Edgar know you call him that?
Bry
I don't think so.
Gidam
People liked it when he called Pam the other day.
Ming Chen
Oh yeah, we love Pam.
Walt Flanagan
What was the reason why he was Square Dick?
Bry
I have no. Because it just rhymed with Eric. It doesn't rhyme with Eric a little bit.
Walt Flanagan
What?
Ming Chen
Yeah, not at all. Eric Square Dick.
Gidam
Duh.
Bry
Okay, so I just texted him, what's going on? Square Dick.
Ming Chen
I mean, doesn't have the same ring as say, SpongeBob SquarePants.
Walt Flanagan
Eric Square Dick. Yeah, it doesn't rhyme at all.
Bry
Eric Squaredick. Yeah, I guess the K rhymes.
Ming Chen
The K?
Bry
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Just because they both end in K.
Walt Flanagan
It's a stretch though. Some poet over there, isn't it?
Bry
What am I gonna write with Eric?
Ming Chen
Professional writer. Leave him alone.
Walt Flanagan
Wow, this Jim Morrison. And now there's Brian Johnson. American Poets.
Ming Chen
Both Maya Angelou.
Bry
Square Dick Johnson. The Cubicle Pubic.
Gidam
Let's name a rest stop after him.
Ming Chen
Yeah, but Square space. Not Square dicks.
Bry
Not Square dick. Square space. They give you everything you need to offer services and get paid all in one place. From consultations to events and experiences. Showcase your offerings and customizable website to attract clients and grow your business. Get paid on time. Do you get paid on time, Ming?
Ming Chen
I do get paid on time.
Bry
All right, that's thanks to. Thanks to Squarespace with their online payments. Plus streamline your workflow with built in appointment scheduling and email marketing tools. Every dream needs a domain, Ming. You had a dream.
Ming Chen
I did.
Walt Flanagan
What was your dream, Ming?
Ming Chen
My dream?
Walt Flanagan
Overall.
Ming Chen
In life?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Besides playing in any number of professional sports.
Walt Flanagan
Really? Wait a minute.
Ming Chen
You.
Walt Flanagan
You had a dream of being professional athlete? Don't most guys?
Bry
Yeah, but midget wrestling.
Walt Flanagan
What year did you hold that dream on? Like you know, when you were younger
Ming Chen
was, you know, say ages 6 to 12.
Walt Flanagan
Maybe even at 12 you had the. You're under the illusion that you could be a professional player. In what league?
Ming Chen
I'm about to hit puberty.
Bry
Maybe.
Walt Flanagan
Okay, if.
Bry
If when pube hits those hormones.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You're gonna turn into a six foot.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
From four 225 pound Adonis.
Ming Chen
Yes. That could hit a 99 mile per hour fastball.
Gidam
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
So when you. When 14 came around and you looked in the mirror where you.
Ming Chen
Like when I tried out for the high school baseball team and I didn't come close to making it. Yes. That's when the dream died.
Walt Flanagan
What was your like? What was your. Your attributes like. Like what were your good qualities as a ballpark?
Ming Chen
I thought I had some speed.
Bry
That thought.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. Until you've raced any other. Any. Some of the other players on the team.
Ming Chen
Yeah, they were. Yeah, they were taller and faster than me.
Walt Flanagan
Longer stride.
Ming Chen
That's what I. Yeah, that's why I blamed it on. Sure. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
And your parents. You should have blamed it on you. It's not your fault that you're not.
Ming Chen
Right. That I'm not.
Bry
Genetics. Yeah.
Ming Chen
Superiority.
Bry
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
But that's. All right. So you abandoned the pro athlete dream. What's your next dream then?
Ming Chen
I mean, next one was be rich and famous somehow.
Bry
Are you.
Walt Flanagan
You're well on your way right. Halfway there.
Ming Chen
I mean, at one point, you know, podcast studio, the trajectory was looking pretty good for say it was.
Walt Flanagan
You were on the right track.
Ming Chen
We were on a track.
Walt Flanagan
You're on track.
Ming Chen
We were on a track from, you know, say the. The years 2012 to 2018. It was looking pretty good.
Walt Flanagan
But as soon as AMC said then you had to. Another dream goes to bites the dust.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Then you're then, all right, so what's
Walt Flanagan
the third dream, then? You're old. This is the third act.
Bry
Used to call. Like when he was into the Amway stuff, he didn't call him dream stealers. Like if you weren't into the same.
Walt Flanagan
Dream killers.
Ming Chen
Dream killers. We heard that term firsthand.
Bry
Yeah, yeah.
Ming Chen
Dream killers.
Walt Flanagan
So what's Ming Chen's new third act?
Ming Chen
Dream the third right now is just get. Get out of bed every morning. And it's.
Walt Flanagan
It's gone from professional athletes and now just getting out of bed. That's not Ming Chen. There's. Are you suffering from depression?
Ming Chen
No, but you know, come on.
Walt Flanagan
That is not the main chance.
Bry
The maverick.
Walt Flanagan
I know that now. His dream is to get out of bed in the morning.
Ming Chen
Now it's. It's getting a little late in the game to.
Bry
This is a hard 51. The past 10 years he hasn't been fucking around. He's been out there partying, living the life.
Walt Flanagan
So I know there's no mountains to climb for Ming Chen.
Ming Chen
I. I would. I would love to be back on TV again.
Walt Flanagan
Are you making any movements towards that, though?
Ming Chen
Not really. That's tough though, you know, but you got to do something.
Walt Flanagan
You just can't be like, oh, one day I'll be back on tv. I'm not going to do anything.
Bry
Wait, what? That's what I'm hoping for. Yeah.
Gidam
What's the last show?
Ming Chen
It worked once.
Bry
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Yeah, once.
Bry
Why not again?
Ming Chen
Once, why not again?
Walt Flanagan
Wow. These kind of do seem like a little bit of vapid dreams though. I just want to be rich and famous.
Ming Chen
Compared to, you know, curing diseases, there's
Bry
no path to it changing.
Ming Chen
Yeah, no, I hear you.
Walt Flanagan
It's all fluff.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Because then when you gain the fame and fortune, you realize it's empty. I don't know if anybody's told you that who's famous.
Bry
Yeah. Is that why you developed a drinking problem?
Ming Chen
Yeah. That cured everything. That cured everything.
Bry
Oh, there he is. Michigan.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Did you just AI that right now?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Ming Chen
That's great, man. Yeah, I did. I mean, I get the body there of a baseball player, just like you'd have to be. You just gotta hit a baseball and field really well.
Walt Flanagan
Remember you, you have a. At least in that picture, you have a Kirby Puckett type body. I do not in real life though. You need to start, you need to put on a little bit more muscle mass to get that Kirby Puckett start
Ming Chen
lifting instead of taking that protein powder that get him's taken.
Walt Flanagan
Or do we have. If he gets, if he ever gets out of jail, I'll hook you up with a guy I know downstairs who might be able to get you some, some good steroids.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
Oh, that's what you need. You need to roy up, man.
Ming Chen
At this point.
Bry
Yeah.
Ming Chen
That's the only way it's going to happen.
Bry
That'd be a good idea.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
Squarespace.
Walt Flanagan
Okay.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Bry
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Walt Flanagan
I want to hear Ming Chen's feelings.
Ming Chen
It can be useful. It's gonna kill a lot of jobs.
Walt Flanagan
You think so?
Bry
Yeah.
Gidam
Do as a.
Ming Chen
And overall, is it good? I don't know. I mean, we were kind of warned about this in 1984 when Terminator came out and no one's listening. So yeah, ultimately I think it's gonna
Walt Flanagan
let people say that. Now I must have missed a portion of the movie because I don't remember anybody talking about AI like making like Ming Chen look like me.
Ming Chen
Player.
Walt Flanagan
Now being as dangerous as a fucking murdering cybernetic robot.
Gidam
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
That to me, is at the same.
Ming Chen
They didn't really. Threat level. They really touch on that when they're talking about cyber die. I mean, maybe that's how cyber got started. They were doing memes and stuff like that.
Walt Flanagan
But what can we do, though, to save, like. Like the writers and of Hollywood from having to fucking be, you know, the threat of AI writing movie scripts.
Ming Chen
I don't know. I don't. I think it's too late.
Walt Flanagan
It's too late.
Ming Chen
And it's too late.
Bry
Genie's out of the bottle. Yeah. Out of the tube.
Gidam
As a podcast studio owner, have you found that it impacts your business in any way?
Ming Chen
Only positively.
Gidam
Okay.
Ming Chen
Yeah. So all positive. Just even. You know how you write the description of the episode every week? Just throw it through AI and it spits it out in like two seconds. Just me. It's made it easier. You're easier.
Bry
What? Write the description.
Walt Flanagan
You're writing AI. You're letting AI write. Nobody has to.
Bry
I could, I guess, if I want.
Ming Chen
A lot of people are. Most people are doing it, like, it'd
Bry
probably take me longer to figure out how to do that. Just write it down.
Ming Chen
Yeah, that's true.
Gidam
I've been seeing commercials on Pluto for a podcast. Studios.
Ming Chen
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one in la.
Gidam
Have you considered something like that?
Ming Chen
They're. They're nice. Those are. They're. They're expensive, but.
Walt Flanagan
No, I mean, like a commercial, though.
Ming Chen
Oh, yeah, Yeah. I. I would love to have a commercial on Pluto.
Gidam
If you need a director, this man right over here direct a commercial like you wouldn't believe.
Ming Chen
Yeah. It would be cool to have on. On, like, the Comedy Channel, like watching Three's Company.
Walt Flanagan
I think Pluto is probably a little bit more your price point.
Ming Chen
Yeah, I think so.
Walt Flanagan
Rather than Comedy Central.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Gidam
Do you own the rights to the price? Mike?
Walt Flanagan
I see does. I'm sure AMC wouldn't even remember.
Bry
Yeah, it was an injunction issue. Yeah.
Ming Chen
Bring back price mite for.
Gidam
Oh, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
The.
Ming Chen
The pitchfork. It could work. It could work.
Bry
Ming, you know what you got to do?
Ming Chen
What do I have to do?
Bry
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Ming Chen
Well worth it. I highly endorse this product.
Bry
Yeah. You like them? If you're still using them.
Ming Chen
Still use them. Yeah. Yeah. I need a quick website. Didn't want to spend a lot of time building it. And, yeah, had it up in, like, a couple hours.
Bry
All right.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
How many websites you got now?
Ming Chen
I think one, like two or three. Not that many.
Walt Flanagan
That you monitor daily, that get traffic.
Ming Chen
Yeah, yeah. Not like the old days where I was responsible for.
Walt Flanagan
Hey, if. Now you're gonna have some free time. If we, both of us, you know, went back and we're like Vladi. For our old jobs back at vosq, you think the. What do you think the interest level is? And we come in with, like. With like, we'll do it for half the price. We did.
Ming Chen
Or back in the day, desperate. It would reek of a little desperation. But we did good work back in the day.
Walt Flanagan
We did. I think that's at half the cost.
Ming Chen
At half the cost now.
Walt Flanagan
Half the price? Same amount of work, half the price.
Ming Chen
Would that mean, I guess if people that are doing our jobs now get ousted.
Bry
Yeah. Would you do it just for spite? A spite job?
Walt Flanagan
Who's doing your job?
Ming Chen
They got multiple people that. Freelancers.
Walt Flanagan
I think it's a. AI at this point.
Bry
Yeah. Sorry, man. You can't come back. Well, you're in.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, but.
Ming Chen
Yeah, I think that would mean whoever's doing our jobs currently are. I don't.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, okay.
Ming Chen
Especially if we come in at half the price. We lowball it.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
We got to go in and we got to have a power meeting.
Bry
They would definitely be like, what is going on? Why are they trying to infiltrate this company?
Gidam
Work on your elevator pitch.
Ming Chen
Yeah. There would be a degree of suspicion, I'm sure.
Gidam
Why?
Walt Flanagan
Why is it, like, we just miss it. I miss being going to Red bank every day.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
Yeah. The traffic, the people. It was great.
Walt Flanagan
Remember that guy Doc?
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
What was his real name?
Ming Chen
The. Wait, which Doc?
Walt Flanagan
He was like a psychiatrist. Yeah. What was his real name? Remember what I'm talking about?
Gidam
Oh, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You remember his real name? We could tell me off my.
Gidam
No, I don't remember the name. I just remember the discussions I used to hear.
Walt Flanagan
All right, sorry, Squarespace.
Bry
We're done with that.
Ming Chen
Build your website.
Bry
Yeah. We're moving on to bluechew.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, we actually do have bluechew.
Bry
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Walt Flanagan
Well, yeah, that's even more, you know, ancient. Then it's even more of a, like, you know, grab you by the face and, like, be like, hey, wake up, stupid.
Bry
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Gidam
What else could you ask for?
Ming Chen
Wow. How do I get this Bluechew gold?
Bry
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Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Gidam
Can you.
Walt Flanagan
Could you. Would it be detrimental to your health if you, like, took too many Blue Chews?
Bry
Oh, yeah, I think so.
Gidam
Anything can hurt you.
Ming Chen
If it.
Gidam
If it can help you, it can hurt you.
Bry
All right.
Ming Chen
That's a lot of blood flow, right?
Walt Flanagan
I just thought maybe it made it, like. Made it, like, almost like a adamantium dick.
Bry
No, I think they specifically warn against doing that for that result, because.
Walt Flanagan
I know.
Bry
I think it works.
Walt Flanagan
There might be dimwits out there that might be, like, you know, if I take six of them, six times harder.
Bry
Some people would think that. Yeah.
Ming Chen
From the mines of Wakanda. Come here, Snict.
Bry
Did you see. Wait. Go, Henry.
Gidam
No.
Ming Chen
I'm sure there are people who think that way and they suffer the consequences. So this is your warning. If you're listening, don't take six.
Walt Flanagan
Don't take six at one point.
Ming Chen
Yeah, I'm sorry, what were you about to say?
Bry
Well, I'm rolling the dice on this story. The Georgia teen who got charged with killing the high school teen teacher and the prank gone wrong. Did you see that?
Gidam
No.
Bry
I'm really torn on this one because normally I'm like, kids, you know, forgetting my own youth.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Bry
But it's a. These kids, it was like a senior prank that they were pulling on their Teacher who evidently was aware of it. He was like, kind of in on it. And what happened was they were toilet papering his house and he ran outside to get them, and they took off. You know, they ran. They got in their car, and I guess he slipped and he fell on. Somehow he slipped and fell underneath the car and they ran him over. They ran him over and killed him. They killed the guy or the guy got killed, I should say.
Ming Chen
Prank gone wrong.
Bry
So Prank gone wrong?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. Is there ring footage?
Bry
I haven't seen any.
Ming Chen
There's gotta be.
Walt Flanagan
You would ring footage, because if you're chasing someone, usually that means you're behind the car, you're not in front of the car.
Bry
It says, after catching the pranksters doing it, he ran after the teens, but slipped and fell into the road because of the rainy weather and was run over as he.
Walt Flanagan
By the car with the kids or by another car by the kids.
Bry
He was driving his pickup truck away. The five teens gave first aid to the injured teacher before first responders arrived and rushed him to a hospital, where he later died of injuries. His wife Laura, had previously called for charges against the teens to be dropped. This is a terrible tragedy, and our family is determined to prevent a separate tragedy from occurring, ruining the lives of these students.
Ming Chen
Oh, so they don't even want to press charges?
Bry
They don't want to press charges, but the prosecutor's like, no, I want to. I want to get these guys.
Walt Flanagan
I think there might be more to the story than we're getting then if the prosecution feels that there's something there. I mean, first off, how are you in front of the car if you're chasing the car?
Bry
Well, I mean, you can run to the side of it, right? You can run up along the side and then fall.
Gidam
Yeah. Like if they were underneath, if they were parked in front of his house, like two cars, unless they backed up
Walt Flanagan
and ran him over, don't look that way.
Gidam
Like, if he was running in front of their car to get around to the driver's side, and then as he's running, he slips and they're already in drive.
Walt Flanagan
And should all of everybody in the car get charges or just the driver?
Bry
Just the driver is getting charged.
Walt Flanagan
I think that's fair.
Bry
The other people are getting charged with criminal trespassing and littering. Or that was the. I mean, come on.
Ming Chen
Yeah, those are.
Walt Flanagan
It's gonna.
Bry
It's on private fucking property.
Walt Flanagan
It's going to forever you. It's hard to recover from that if you're one of the. Like, if you Kill somebody in a prank. A high school prank, senior prank.
Bry
But that's.
Walt Flanagan
But I'm not willing to just like. Just because the wife is like, well, no charges. I would want to hear more about why they want to charge them before making a decision like that. We do. We shouldn't charge them because they didn't intend to kill him. You know, a lot of things happen where you didn't intend for it to happen, but you were fucking stupid.
Bry
Yeah, well, look, I hate to victim blame here, but is there any onus on this guy who ran out into the road in the rain chasing a truck? Is it partially his fault for doing something?
Walt Flanagan
What should he have done?
Bry
I don't know. Let him do it. Go come out and be like, hey, you guys.
Walt Flanagan
You would just let someone TP your house?
Bry
No, but I mean, if they were students of mine and I recognize them because the. Evidently, this prank was worth two points, like the seniors.
Walt Flanagan
So let's say.
Gidam
Well, how would you recognize them unless you went to chase the vehicle?
Walt Flanagan
Let's say RUP and Chalker TP in your house. You're not just gonna sit there. Just sit there and be like. You're gonna go out there and you're gonna chase them.
Bry
I would be like, no, what are you guys doing? No, I'm not running all the way down to the road in my house. I'm like, I gotta. I can't wait until we record the weirdest thing happened.
Ming Chen
Yeah, but you're like, this is why I have guns, man.
Bry
Finally.
Ming Chen
Yeah, finally I get my firearms, get
Bry
put to use, like in Chuck's tail.
Ming Chen
Get back here, Rob.
Bry
Yeah, I mean, so, I mean, in response to your, like, you would want to know more that this is pretty much everything I've seen so far. It's like, there hasn't been. After it happened, there hasn't been like, a ton of information. A ton of information beyond that. Yeah, that was given.
Ming Chen
Did you. Did you tp. You ever TP to house?
Walt Flanagan
I've never TP to ask you.
Ming Chen
I. I tried. I went with a friend, but halfway there. It's the middle of the night.
Walt Flanagan
You had to take a. Yeah. What happened to that toilet paper, man?
Ming Chen
Now, I chickened out, and my friend kept on going. I. I turned tail and went back home. I got scared I was gonna get caught.
Walt Flanagan
It was Mischief Night.
Ming Chen
It wasn't Mischief Night. It was just some random night.
Walt Flanagan
But I would go out on Mischief night. I never TPed a house, but I would throw eggs. I soap up windows. You know, I wrote Some like some pretty funny ass on windows. On the windows of people's cars.
Gidam
Sit on it.
Walt Flanagan
Stick it. No.
Gidam
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
It was a little bit more colorful than to sit on it. Guys who are like. Who always, like, chases off or playing football on the street.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
Like. Like, because the football may have hit their car and. Nerf. Yeah. They paid for that.
Ming Chen
Oh, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
As I exposed what they put in their mouth.
Ming Chen
Right.
Bry
Oh, no. Everyone to see in soap.
Gidam
I drew a wild ass on the side of their car.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, yeah, we did some. I would. We would shoot bottle rockets right At. At just houses and.
Bry
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. We were wild animals.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
We ran the streets.
Bry
It's the kind of. That if, like, you're right. If somebody was shooting bomber rockets at my house, I'd be like, what the. What is going on here? Like, this is. This is weird.
Walt Flanagan
It's 1983. It was different rules back then.
Bry
Yeah. There really were no rules.
Gidam
No rules. I remember one night I was working at the supermarket overnights, and some kids came in and bought three cases of eggs.
Walt Flanagan
You weren't supposed to sell them to them, Right.
Gidam
I tried to stop the sale.
Bry
Of course you did.
Ming Chen
You stepped in.
Gidam
I'm like. I called the manager over. I'm like, it's two is.
Walt Flanagan
He is the biggest.
Gidam
How would you feel. How would you feel if someone egged your house and no one tried to stop it? It was 2 o' clock in the morning.
Bry
I assume nobody was trying to stop it.
Gidam
It was 2 o' clock in the morning. I said, who? What? Teenagers are buying eggs at 2 o' clock in the morning? 3. 3, like 36.
Walt Flanagan
So the mornings fell on deaf ears. Yeah, get him. Shut the fuck up.
Bry
We want to bring him up.
Walt Flanagan
God damn it.
Bry
We got shit to sell, man.
Walt Flanagan
It's three egg eggs. I'm going to sell that. I wasn't going to sell, so please. I'm not going to this sale. Up. Shut the up and bag it.
Bry
Yeah. So that somewhere someone will be like, well, my house didn't get. I'm sure there was some. Some grocery store clerk who stopped it.
Ming Chen
Yeah. My hero.
Walt Flanagan
Sometimes there's a hero that no one ever sees.
Bry
Yeah. What a. What a little. I would just feel like, yeah, he's the.
Walt Flanagan
He's the guy that. Yeah. Like, I would be fighting such fucking horrible shit on your windows and soap if I was a kid that you tried to stop us from buying eggs. Oh, yeah. Everybody would know what you put in your mouth, bro.
Bry
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
And your butt.
Bry
Wherever I fit. That's where it's going.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Just remember, not all heroes wear three pens and an LED light.
Gidam
Some heroes wear aprons.
Ming Chen
Well, how'd you try to stop the sale? Were you renting and raving like that?
Gidam
I said, I have to ask my manager if I can approve this sale. Am I managing?
Walt Flanagan
How old are you?
Gidam
28, 30.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, my God.
Ming Chen
Shut up, old man.
Gidam
And my manager just was like, yeah, sell them to him, dude.
Walt Flanagan
There was. There was.
Ming Chen
Kid.
Walt Flanagan
I was in high school and I had a job. I had a job at Futown.
Gidam
That's what this was.
Walt Flanagan
And there was kids that came in that I was in summer school. And one of the kids in my summer school class came in and brought beer. And I didn't even fucking rat him out because I was like, and this is breaking the law, not fucking buying eggs. And I was. I didn't like the guy either, but I was. I wasn't gonna be fucking the hero that stands up and was like, this is wrong, right? I was like, fuck it, man. He didn't. Like. They didn't care back then. It was 1984. Nobody gives a.
Ming Chen
No.
Walt Flanagan
Especially about eggs. No. Does anybody egg houses anymore?
Gidam
Apparently, yes.
Walt Flanagan
No, they don't, do they?
Gidam
Why were they buying?
Walt Flanagan
No, no, I'm talking about 20, 26. Does anybody.
Gidam
Yeah, well, it doesn't make the news, so I can check. But I knew that these kids were. Because especially when they went to leave, they had a. One of the. Was like an astro van and the window was taken out of the sliding door.
Bry
So you knew they were.
Gidam
Oh, yeah.
Ming Chen
Or drive by.
Bry
Egging.
Gidam
Yeah.
Bry
All the clues pointed to it.
Gidam
Yeah. But my manager was like, no, just sell the eggs.
Ming Chen
You have your ear do stuck firmly to a police scanner. You don't hear about egging on.
Gidam
A lot of the police scanners are now encrypted, so I mostly get first aid calls.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Gidam
Yeah.
Bry
Why do they do that? So that like criminals can't listen in.
Gidam
It's just, it's. The radios are cheaper, I guess, and less interference. And the state police can monitor the frequencies so they know what's going on. It's just easier for communications.
Walt Flanagan
I know someone's jeep who's going to get egged. This mischief.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
In the airport plaza.
Gidam
I won't notice.
Walt Flanagan
You're right, it wouldn't matter.
Ming Chen
Getting covered.
Gidam
You got the unlimited wash. You come
Walt Flanagan
down Megs, like in your Jeep, clean,
Gidam
cage free.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Don't get killed chasing him down. Get him.
Gidam
Is that Eric?
Ming Chen
Don't get killed.
Bry
He didn't answer. He's probably working.
Ming Chen
Well, I'm. I'm sure. Who's ever. I guess the house did get right.
Gidam
Oh, yeah, yeah. They weren't baking cakes at 2 o' clock in the morning.
Bry
Damn. You'll never know.
Ming Chen
Almost foiled this plot, Richard.
Bry
Jewel.
Ming Chen
You could have been Richard.
Bry
See how it worked out for him? There's a new trend now. Ming, I think you eventually told your wife that you and I had a mini bachelor party when you got married.
Walt Flanagan
Yes.
Bry
Yeah, she knows all about it.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Bry
Walt, his bachelor party was devil's game.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Bry
My bachelor party was sitting around a table podcasting with you guys.
Walt Flanagan
Great.
Bry
But there's a new trend because usually guys go to strip clubs. That's. That's the tried and true classic bachelor party move. But women now, instead of getting a stripper, because there was a long period where they were getting strippers, there's a trend towards getting magicians.
Ming Chen
Magicians.
Bry
Yes.
Ming Chen
Wow. That's totally the same.
Bry
It's totally the same thing. Right?
Walt Flanagan
Do they perform in a banana hammock?
Bry
They don't perform in a banana hammock. It's just a regular magician and it's not like, erotic or anything. I read this in. Really? In the paper. Yeah. Well, online. But, you know, you have like a
Ming Chen
bachelor, part bachelor art party, and like Harry Blackstone shows up or David Copperfield or.
Bry
Well, I don't think you're getting those guys. I think. I think you're getting a guy, like, off of Facebook.
Gidam
You're getting Tom.
Bry
Yeah. You're getting Tom the magician.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Bry
Do you think guys will follow suit?
Ming Chen
I.
Bry
Or do you.
Ming Chen
I'm going to take a wild guess and say no.
Walt Flanagan
But if it's a female magician, maybe, and she's wearing pasties.
Bry
Yeah, but it has to be some sexual element. It can't just be a regular magician.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, just a legit. It has to be a thong somewhere. Maybe a rabbit has wearing a thong. A little mini thong.
Bry
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
There has to be a thong for
Ming Chen
it to be official. One thong somewhere.
Bry
A thong has to make an appearance.
Ming Chen
Right.
Walt Flanagan
But yeah, I don't know if.
Ming Chen
Yeah, I don't think this is going to catch on in the. The bachelor party community.
Bry
Here it is. Ginham found it.
Ming Chen
Is this an ad?
Gidam
This is someone looking for a magician.
Bry
Hello. We're visiting in July for a bachelorette. 11 adult girls and looking for a magician to come to the house. Don't ask Roger's request. Lol. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Walt Flanagan
It still sounds a little, like, salacious. Yeah, it doesn't sound as wholesome as you making it does sound like the weird, like, stilted wording of it makes it still sound like it's dirty.
Bry
Well, I think she's like, normally we would get a stripper, but for some reason we're getting a fucking magician.
Ming Chen
Don't ask why, but there's a trend now you say?
Bry
That's what I read. It's a trend. Let's see. Yep. Brides waits, bridesmaids swear a new trend at bachelor parties is even better than a stripper. They're swapping abs and lap dances for a new kind of thrill.
Ming Chen
For rabbits and coin trucks.
Bry
Yeah, yeah. And there's a picture of the guy performing. He's just under. He's like in a suit jacket and a fully clothes, button up shirt. Yeah, there he is. He's right there.
Ming Chen
Oh, yeah. He's just.
Bry
He's fully dressed.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
How much you can make? He typically performs for an hour.
Ming Chen
I mean, what, a hundred bucks?
Bry
Maybe that's it.
Ming Chen
I. Yeah, I. I can't imagine.
Bry
That seems like a lot of work. Like, you're. For an hour.
Ming Chen
Yeah. But you're. Would you pay more than a hundred
Bry
probably for a magician? Well, if it's a bachelorette party, there's, you know, there's a bunch of girls there, they could all chip in. Even if, like, you know, you got 10 girls in each, chip in 20 bucks.
Ming Chen
Right.
Bry
Then you got 200 for the magician.
Ming Chen
It's an expensive magician, though, man.
Bry
I don't know what's a magician's going rate? I'm not even sure.
Gidam
Not priced a magician.
Bry
Yeah. Oh, here's the thing. Because they say that no one felt awkward or left out, and everyone was laughing and generally comfortable and amazed, which isn't always the case at bachelorette party.
Ming Chen
Now it all makes sense.
Bry
Yeah. So it's for the other people who aren't into the stripper. Like, you have a friend that's like,
Ming Chen
ooh, all right, this is precious.
Bry
Or they're married or whatever.
Ming Chen
This is all inclusive.
Bry
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
He puts shaving cream on his magic wand, you know, and then the girls have to lick off the magic wand.
Bry
It's better if it was whipped cream than shaving cream. Probably.
Gidam
I heard Jimmy's having like four bachelor parties.
Bry
Is he really? I haven't been invited to any of them.
Ming Chen
I don't.
Bry
Me either.
Gidam
I wonder if magicians have been invited to any of them.
Bry
Probably. He seems like that kind of guy.
Ming Chen
Have you heard of, like, the themes of these?
Gidam
No, no. I think, like, all, like the members of his.
Ming Chen
The jugglers.
Gidam
No. Like, what's the wedding. No. Yeah. The wedding party are, like, vying to throw, like, the best bachelor party for him.
Walt Flanagan
Oh.
Bry
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
It's a competition.
Gidam
Yeah. I think Truck wants to be number one.
Walt Flanagan
He's gonna have to hire a magician and.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Yeah.
Gidam
Recommend it to him.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Make that shaving cream disappear.
Walt Flanagan
I meant whipped cream.
Bry
Yeah. Lunches and cocktails followed by games, dancing, activities. It seems outdated and predictable. They say, wow, the world is evolving, huh?
Ming Chen
Sounds riveting, but. Yeah. I don't see a bunch of dudes doing this.
Bry
No. Why don't you have a stripper? Just. You didn't want a stripper, Walt. Or was it. We think your wife would get upset.
Walt Flanagan
I don't think the Devils would have been, too.
Bry
It was a fun bachelor party, I'll say that much. We had a good time.
Ming Chen
Yeah, well, we had. We had fun at ours, too, so.
Bry
Yeah, we did. We had a good time.
Ming Chen
Yeah, we had a real good time.
Bry
Ming's bachelor party was me, him, a stripper who we were friends with, and then a teacher who we were friends. Yeah. And then we just went to strip clubs and hung out.
Ming Chen
Yeah. Good old Jersey. It was fun.
Bry
Yeah, it was a good time.
Ming Chen
It was fun. Brian Johnson knows that. Throw a party, man.
Bry
Yeah, I do it rarely, but I do it. Speaking of parties, Q's turning 50 on. I think it's Sunday. Oh, really? Yeah. He won't be here, though, so we're going to try to schedule some kind of.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, nice, big five zero.
Bry
Yeah. Right now he's down in Key West.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, really? Getting ready.
Bry
Sure. Yeah, sure. He's there for a week, getting ready.
Ming Chen
Yeah, yeah. It's going to take that much time to.
Gidam
You excited for Qs, Ming?
Ming Chen
I'm very excited. Last year was awesome, and I expect nothing less this year.
Walt Flanagan
Have you announced? Oh, yeah. You announced your father's coming, right?
Ming Chen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that. I'm excited about that. I never met your dad.
Walt Flanagan
Ask these guys what you should do about the jersey.
Gidam
I already ordered it.
Walt Flanagan
Everybody tell them the dilemma you had.
Bry
You had a dilemma with the jersey.
Ming Chen
What's going on?
Gidam
So I wanted to get my dad a jersey so that he was easily identifiable. So in case.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Gidam
In case I'm not around people. Well, no, just so if I'm not around, like, you know, someone will at least keep their eye on him.
Walt Flanagan
So we want to order him a Giants jersey.
Bry
Okay.
Ming Chen
New York Giants.
Gidam
Yeah, New York Giants.
Bry
You purchased a pin, A note to his shirt.
Walt Flanagan
He's identifiable as, like, did you think that he would be like, oh, my God, that's Phil Sims.
Gidam
What do you mean?
Walt Flanagan
Like, how is he easily identifiable?
Gidam
Well, then people would know that he's
Walt Flanagan
my father because he's wearing a Giants
Gidam
jersey that has Giddham's dad written back.
Ming Chen
Spell it out for everybody.
Gidam
Yeah, I ordered. Yeah. Custom jersey for him, but I was trying to find out the right color.
Ming Chen
Oh, the jersey.
Gidam
Yeah. Like, did he want the white jersey? Would he want the blue jersey? What do you want the. You know.
Walt Flanagan
Okay.
Gidam
So I was trying to find out which color jersey he wanted, and I was trying to find, like, the best.
Walt Flanagan
He's trying to find out without asking his father.
Bry
Oh. Oh, you want to surprise.
Gidam
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
I.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Gidam
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
I told him, go blue, but it wasn't. Yeah. The answer wasn't good enough, though.
Bry
I wanted to go blue, too. Yeah.
Ming Chen
That's pretty standard.
Gidam
There's two different. There's like two or three different blue ones, though. Just.
Ming Chen
Home blue Giant.
Walt Flanagan
This is the.
Ming Chen
This is what you guys do all day here?
Walt Flanagan
I tell him, he asked me. I give an answer, and then it's. But he doesn't like that.
Gidam
No, I just wanted to know which blue. Because again, there's a new blue one. There's an old blue one.
Walt Flanagan
I said, get the 80s blue one.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Gidam
Which is when I ended up.
Ming Chen
When they're champions.
Gidam
I thought you got the white and the blue eventually. Yeah, I did get the 30 jerseys.
Ming Chen
What the hell?
Gidam
Just. Well, no, I went. I went both blue.
Ming Chen
Okay, Okay.
Gidam
I went both blue.
Ming Chen
Okay, well, so he can have one for each day.
Gidam
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Bry
Do you have a number on his jersey, too?
Gidam
Yeah, I found that. His high school football number.
Bry
Oh, the high school football number.
Gidam
Yeah. Okay. 62.
Bry
Oh, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
What was he, a lineman?
Gidam
I'm not sure. I don't know. I remember really asked.
Walt Flanagan
Wichita lineman.
Gidam
No.
Ming Chen
Is your dad prone to, like, what, just wandering off? Is that.
Gidam
No, just so, like, people could, you know, make sure he's being taken care of if I'm, like, found it available or if I'm doing something.
Walt Flanagan
Okay, now, what does that mean? Like, quote, unquote, taken care of? Like, what.
Bry
Who are these people that are taking charge?
Gidam
You know, it's just gonna ask the other answers to, you know, make sure he's having a good time, like, type deal.
Bry
Right.
Gidam
Like, you know, he's not being excluded.
Walt Flanagan
What does that entail, though? Like, have a good time. That sounds almost like, wink, wink, make sure he has a good time. If you know what I Mean, no,
Gidam
just like, you know, he's not bored, you know? You know, just bored.
Walt Flanagan
Strangers that he's never spoken to.
Bry
Make sure he's done his important.
Ming Chen
Make sure he's entertained and having.
Gidam
Well, he's not just like sitting by himself. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You know, this is the fevered mind.
Gidam
Like, he doesn't like he being worried about my father.
Walt Flanagan
No, listen, but you wouldn't even mention this on Mike, though. So in his mind, he buys this jersey. Two of them.
Ming Chen
Yes.
Walt Flanagan
This ensures in his brain that if his father is there, if strangers see him, they'll read the back of his jersey, realize it's get him's father, and then make sure he's not bored. But he would never have put this out there.
Gidam
No, I was gonna say something when we were down there.
Walt Flanagan
Okay.
Gidam
Yeah.
Bry
Spread the word.
Gidam
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ming Chen
Like, it's like, hey, guys.
Gidam
Hey, if this can't that be your
Ming Chen
responsibility, Ming, to make sure it's a good time.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Gidam
When he's in the butterfly sanctuary.
Walt Flanagan
All right, so, like.
Bry
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
So when Ming butterfly costume. He can't make sure he's having a good time. But yeah.
Gidam
Or if, you know, if they want me to do. What are you doing? You can't. If they want me to do something, I've already. I've already offered myself for down there, so I.
Walt Flanagan
As what?
Gidam
Whatever they wanted me to do, I
Walt Flanagan
told about for your father. Why can't you make sure your dad's
Gidam
having a good time again? If I'm doing something.
Walt Flanagan
What are you doing?
Gidam
I've already offered to do anything they wanted me to do.
Walt Flanagan
What did you do last year that you.
Gidam
I was helping Chuck with the recording and stuff.
Ming Chen
You're on stage?
Gidam
I was on stage, yeah. So.
Walt Flanagan
So your dad will be left alone when you do those things.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
All right. So ants who are coming, you know, now there's going to be like, any number of ants are. Now we're going to, like, they're going to want to, like, basically tag along with your dad.
Bry
Let's steer clear. Get him down. Otherwise you got to entertain him.
Walt Flanagan
No, I think there's some that will be like, I want to watch.
Bry
Oh, yeah, you can hang out with us.
Gidam
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Now he's going to have plenty.
Gidam
Yeah, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Probably too many.
Gidam
I just, you know, how much would
Bry
you hate that if, like, one of your daughters did that to you? Make sure everybody's around my dad at all times.
Ming Chen
Make sure you talk to him and don't leave him alone.
Bry
Don't let him get bored.
Walt Flanagan
Don't Let him be bored. Now.
Gidam
What do you want to see? There's tons of different jerseys out there.
Walt Flanagan
So what would be a bridge too far, though? Like, all of a sudden you. You're, you know, you. After helping Chuck, you kind of go, where's my dad? And then you find out like, some aunts took him to like.
Gidam
What if we took him to the. The Garden of Eden?
Ming Chen
Let's say we took him to the Gard Eden.
Gidam
What's the. The naked part.
Ming Chen
That's it. That's the Garden of Eden.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, and he. And he was like, basically like. Like painting the town red.
Gidam
Okay, good for.
Walt Flanagan
His girlfriend found out back home and she broke up with him.
Gidam
That's not on me.
Ming Chen
Is your dad committed?
Gidam
Yeah, he's got. He's had a girlfriend for 30 something years.
Bry
Wow.
Ming Chen
Okay. So can't.
Walt Flanagan
He can't.
Gidam
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You can't get crazy. Yeah, don't. Don't get the man.
Gidam
Hey, what happens in Qs stays in Q. West makes out his girlfriend, listens to the pod. Well, like I said, I'm looking out
Walt Flanagan
for the jerseys come yet?
Gidam
No.
Bry
No.
Walt Flanagan
You're getting nervous at the beginning.
Bry
Well, they're coming from China, right? I'm assuming.
Ming Chen
Yeah, yeah, it was a Chinese New Year. They don't do any work down there.
Gidam
But it's over now.
Walt Flanagan
Featured father. Why aren't you just going out into the fucking Dicks and buy him a fucking Giants Jersey?
Gidam
No, it's 120 that has Gideon's dad on it back. Yeah, they'll do that at Dicks.
Walt Flanagan
Yes, they will, but they will.
Ming Chen
It'll cost you like 10 times as much.
Walt Flanagan
It's his father.
Gidam
It's true, he is my father, but I'm still me.
Bry
And it's guaranteed to be here on time. You don't have to like, stress and
Walt Flanagan
worry about it now. You're all stressed about it.
Gidam
Well, I'm not really stressed. They said that it would be here on time, so I trust China. They called me friend. So it's. You know what they tell me? Do not worry, friend.
Walt Flanagan
Dear friend. It will be there. Do not worry.
Bry
All right, China, I trust you.
Ming Chen
Don't trust the Chinese schedule. Do not trust the Chinese. Well, good luck. I'm glad we have an identifying marker now so we know it's your dad.
Walt Flanagan
If you see anybody in a Giants jersey. Yes, it could be.
Ming Chen
Get him's father could begin his father.
Bry
I'm gonna get married both as Bry's wife.
Walt Flanagan
Jersey.
Bry
Yeah. What kind of jersey should I get her?
Gidam
Okay. We got it.
Walt Flanagan
We already fucking.
Gidam
You're welcome, friend.
Walt Flanagan
We cannot have another. Like, bug everybody about what Jersey you should buy. You already did that already.
Bry
Forget them.
Walt Flanagan
You'd have to decide what jersey to get her on your own.
Bry
All right.
Ming Chen
Jersey of a winner.
Walt Flanagan
What else, man? Anything else? Where we hit the road?
Ming Chen
I think that's. I think that's it. Thanks for having me back. I miss this, man. This is fun.
Bry
Yeah, it's fun shooting the.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Bry
It's a good time, right?
Ming Chen
Like it. Everyone's like, why aren't you on more? It's like where they found someone even more messed up than I am to feature. I'm sitting across from her.
Walt Flanagan
That's not the case. We're not. We're not going any more low blows like that.
Ming Chen
No more low blush.
Walt Flanagan
No. Really serious.
Gidam
No more low blowers.
Walt Flanagan
No. It's loving the ribs.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
It's got to be more like a. Like a yuck yuck.
Ming Chen
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
Like, not below the belt.
Ming Chen
Okay. They're laughing with me, not at me.
Walt Flanagan
Yes.
Bry
Blow the belt. And he spazzes out.
Gidam
If I could feel it.
Walt Flanagan
Has little Gidem returned to life?
Gidam
He's been getting more and more feeling back. Yeah.
Bry
Wow.
Walt Flanagan
It's been months then.
Gidam
It was. It was on a slow decline. Yeah.
Ming Chen
Wow. Just in time for Key West.
Bry
Entertain my dad. I'm going to bang this broad.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. Will your dad be a good wingman, you think? Or would he be a bad wingman?
Bry
Like, if he comes home and he sees. He comes to the. To where you're standing, he sees a tie on the bedroom door.
Ming Chen
Yeah. A sign.
Bry
Yeah. Yeah.
Ming Chen
Or an LED. A scrolling LED for 30 minutes.
Gidam
I think he might be happy.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, I think he'd be very happy.
Gidam
Yeah.
Ming Chen
So.
Bry
Yeah, boy.
Ming Chen
Yeah. I mean, is he cool? He doesn't. He won't block you, right?
Walt Flanagan
Like Dad?
Gidam
I think unintentionally, he might.
Ming Chen
Unintentionally.
Bry
Okay.
Gidam
Yeah.
Ming Chen
Oh, man, I can't wait.
Walt Flanagan
I don't think Q wants you banging anybody on that trip.
Bry
Better safe than sorry.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. I think you better just tell people it's still numb.
Bry
I'm not even gonna bang my wife to play it safe.
Walt Flanagan
Just tell everybody. Let's just get it out there right now. If anybody is interested in. Get him. His is still numb.
Ming Chen
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
At least until. Doesn't work until next September.
Bry
Yeah.
Gidam
I'm waking up. When September end.
Ming Chen
It could paralyze him.
Bry
Don't even try.
Walt Flanagan
Tell him, Steve.
Bry
Dave.
This episode sees Walt Flanagan, Bryan "Bry" Johnson, and special guest Ming Chen (filling in for Q) joined by "Git 'Em" for an uncensored, classic hangout. The vibe is irreverent, honest, and meandering as the guys catch up on everything from convention travel, weird local news, and bachelor party trends, to their own unique brand of workplace drama at the legendary Airport Plaza. The theme is classic TESD: everyday absurdities, community in-jokes, and ribbing each other about everything under the sun.
“That’s how you get people to keep liking you, by not interacting with you.” – Bry ([04:41])
“If I don’t want to hear it, I don’t. I can not hear it.” – Walt Flanagan ([14:02])
The Case of the Stolen Dish Soap
Security guard certification
"If they knew your health conditions, there's no way they'd license you." – Walt Flanagan ([29:54])
Ming’s shifting ambitions: From pro-athlete to pop culture figure to ‘just getting out of bed’
AI’s Pros and Cons
The episode is quintessential Tell ‘Em Steve-Dave: equal parts barbershop sarcasm, neurotic detail, honest reflection, and a deep in-group rapport. The language is informal, profane, and sometimes deliberately absurd as the group riffs on the mundane—turning every day office drama and nostalgia into oddly compelling comic essays.
This show is as much about the peculiar chemistry among its regulars as it is about any news item, trend, or event. If you haven’t listened before, Episode #669 provides plenty of context—and plenty of laughs.