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Brian Quinn
Go out to the garage, boy.
Brian Johnson
I mean, aren't we all looking for a James Gardner type?
Matt
It does seem like you're, like, assembling like, a small town. Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Well,
Walt Flanagan
Tell Them Steve, Dave.
Brian Quinn
Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of Tell Them Steve. Dave. I'm here with Gideum.
Gideon
How you stanking?
Brian Johnson
I'm here with Q. Hello.
Brian Quinn
I'm here with Walt.
Walt Flanagan
Hello.
Brian Quinn
And we're here with two special guests, Q that you brought in.
Brian Johnson
Very special guests. Yes. Yeah. This is Jonna. This is the episode zero we've been promising. This is John, who works with me on Impractical Jokers. I've spoken about her before in the show. If you're at Q West, she was there putting on the shows the last two years, and her husband Matt,
Matt
who
Brian Johnson
is a great dude, came down to Q West. We've hung out before on. On Halloween. I ruined his Halloween years ago by we. We got too drunk at a bar. We never got to the parade.
Matt
Ruined my morning.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty bad. But Matt came to Q West and said, man, I'd love to listen to Tom, Steve, Dave, but I don't know where to start.
Brian Quinn
Oh, my God.
Brian Johnson
So we put him to work instantly. Right? Put the married couple to work instantly. We're like, let's bring him in. Let's see if we can win him over as a listener, get him to ask questions that newbies would need to know.
Brian Quinn
Right.
Brian Johnson
And anybody listening to tell him TV Dave, for the first time can jump on as well. So we got to make this as accessible as possible.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Brian Johnson
I think we could do as friendly and as accessible as possible, boys.
Brian Quinn
Well, before we start, Walt, do you have any questions for these two? Because we see Q as a friend. We see Q as a fellow podcaster. We see Q at home, but we don't see really see Q on set that much. Is he a taskmaster?
Walt Flanagan
Is he laid back? Or is he a bit more of a, you know, high strung?
Brian Quinn
Right. Is he yelling at people?
Jonna
That's a great question. He is. He's extremely chill. Yeah, he's a great boss. I know. I've heard on the cast. You guys have kind of called him like Hollywood bq, right? I would say he's more of like a. He's more of a Princess Diana, more of the people's princess.
Brian Quinn
Oh, okay.
Jonna
He's a man of the people's princess.
Brian Quinn
He's not a Meghan Markle.
Jonna
He's not a Meghan Markle.
Brian Johnson
I'll take the people's princess. I'LL take it.
Jonna
Yeah, he's great. He's very fun in pre production. Comes in with big ideas and we get some crazy ideas. And he's always the one who's going, like, we'll see. Maybe we can make it work. All right, we got something there.
Brian Quinn
So, like, is it a difficult decision to be like, how do we dismiss his idea?
Jonna
Always. But we do it in the politest way possible. No, that's for the producers. They kill the ideas that we ascend. We ascend everything. We say everything's great. And then someone tells us, well, that'll cost $60,000.
Brian Quinn
And then you're like, we didn't have to say it.
Jonna
No robot dogs.
Brian Quinn
Oh, damn.
Jonna
No, we do have robots.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, we do have robots this season. We're trying to work this, Crack this robot thing for a while.
Jonna
Yeah, you're talking to the wrong people. We want to make all of Q's ideas work, to be honest.
Matt
Yeah. Yeah.
Jonna
The weirder, the better. Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Matt, what do you do?
Matt
I work for a labor union.
Brian Quinn
Uh.
Brian Johnson
Oh, you guys are union.
Matt
That's not a good answer.
Walt Flanagan
Or union.
Matt
Somebody here being exploited.
Brian Quinn
Did you hear that?
Walt Flanagan
She asked if we're a union here.
Gideon
I tried to organize myself, but it doesn't work.
Jonna
All right, Matt may flip. Get him.
Matt
Yeah, get him.
Brian Quinn
We'll talk.
Walt Flanagan
Well, you know how, you know how hard it is to fire a union guy? Yeah, it's just as hard to fire this motherfucker. Cause he never leaves.
Brian Johnson
We can actually use it because, like, the union also lists out responsibilities that the union members have as well. Right.
Matt
I mean, and all unions are different, so. Yeah, yeah, like a of times that's the case.
Brian Johnson
So Gideon would have a checklist of things that he has to do every day.
Matt
That's true. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
He doesn't want that.
Walt Flanagan
No, no.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Now, Walt, have you listed your grievances? Like, is it written down so that
Brian Johnson
when we ship can them?
Walt Flanagan
I have been compiling a list for many years.
Brian Quinn
When to tell? Just go back, listen to the episodes. You'll see. You'll see. Wow. All right, so you want to get right down to the questions, Q.
Brian Johnson
Sure, yeah. I mean, we can get into it. I, I, I'm excited to hear what they came up with.
Jonna
Yeah. Matt's the potential listener. I guess I'm ironically here as Matt's guest. You would think I would have been invited, but I'm really, I'm not. But I have some questions of my own.
Brian Johnson
You're Mets plus one.
Jonna
I'm men's plus one.
Walt Flanagan
Do you guys listen to podcasts?
Jonna
Yes.
Walt Flanagan
Okay. What do you guys listen to?
Jonna
I like to hear about women who have been murdered by husbands. So if this podcast has elements of that, that's for me.
Brian Quinn
I talk about it weekly.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Harry.
Gideon
Best plotting all the time.
Walt Flanagan
What do you like to listen to?
Matt
I've have a bunch that I've, like, dipped in and out. I've been a podcast person for a while, so, like, I noticed that you guys, like, keep the company. It seems of like. Like Dan Carlin's, like, hardcore history. I think he started in the same year. I saw. Listen. Like, I listened to. I listened to WTF for a stretch. The McElroy brother that.
Brian Quinn
Did he get to annoying, Mark Marin? I'm sorry, did he get too annoying for you, Mark?
Matt
I thank everybody. Like, I don't know anyone who, like, started episode one and listened to every week.
Brian Quinn
I used to listen to. And then I was like, all right, enough of this.
Jonna
Yeah.
Matt
You get to a point, it's like, all right. I definitely was like, fast forwarding through the preamble sometimes, you know, but you know, there's some good interviews in there. I got like, fantasy football podcasts. I listen to the Ringer. Yeah. You know, I. I dabble.
Walt Flanagan
What would you say your favorite genre is?
Matt
Favorite genre? It's always like, a lot of time it's comedy. Right. It's like, like a comic spin on like, something like the. The Ringers, the fantasy football podcast I listen to. And I like, appreciate it because they're
Walt Flanagan
just like, who's your team?
Matt
My team's the Steelers.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, okay.
Matt
Yeah, I noticed some Patriots stuff.
Walt Flanagan
No, I was a Tom Brady fan. I was not a Patriots.
Matt
Oh, Brady specifically. Yeah. Right.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You want Aaron Rodgers to come back?
Matt
It seems inevitable. I wouldn't mind it at this point, you know, like. Like two, like, guys off the bench. Like. Yeah, I'll do another time. Another time around the block with Rogers, for sure.
Brian Johnson
Good.
Brian Quinn
I should have just went to the girls bathroom with you.
Matt
Didn't want to talk about that for an hour.
Brian Johnson
What? I guess, man, what did you see in. In Key west that.
Matt
That.
Brian Johnson
That piqued your interest or raised questions?
Matt
It was like the whole vibe. It was. It's like. It seems like a rich lore. Right? Like, like, first of all, like, the. The community seems like a central part of the show or like, it seems to like, compound on the show itself in a way.
Brian Johnson
Like, everybody ants.
Matt
Ants. So that's like a question. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Right.
Matt
Of like, is that.
Brian Johnson
That's the official thing? Because Walt said. Walt said early, early on that no human.
Brian Quinn
He was trying to keep us in check.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, no humans are special. We're all just ants crawling around an anthill and stuck as a self. Before I became the people's princess. Yeah, we. We kind of self identified as non important replaceable creatures.
Matt
So like, is an ant like just any, any listener or does somebody have to be like steeped to.
Brian Johnson
No, there's any listener, but there are certain special ones that get. Like, like, like there's one called the Tony Stark Ant who repaired a robot robot for us or who was some of the other ant variants.
Matt
A robot repair man.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, he's just, he's working on that sketch.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah, he fixed my, one of my robots for me.
Gideon
Ambassador Ant.
Brian Quinn
One of them.
Brian Johnson
The Ambassador Ant. Yeah.
Jonna
You keep robots.
Brian Johnson
I have the robot from the, from the 80s that. What's that? The Omnibot 2000.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
I found one in a yard sale and this gentleman Ukan, great guy repaired it for me.
Jonna
Okay. I see the Hollywood BQ nickname a
Brian Quinn
little bit more now.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, Keep that in mind.
Brian Quinn
How many robots I have.
Brian Johnson
There it is. There it is right there. You know, it's from the 80s. It's a child story from the 80s.
Matt
Did he have like specific know how on. On robot or is he just like a tinkerer?
Brian Johnson
Everything. He's a tinker in everything. It's what he does. That's.
Matt
And he was a long time listener of the show. He just piped up.
Brian Johnson
He was in. He was in. He was in Key West, I think, both times.
Matt
Oh man.
Gideon
It's from Turkey. Correct.
Brian Johnson
I forget now.
Matt
But yeah, so yeah, I got a few like in the weeds questions.
Brian Johnson
Sure.
Matt
On the Ant. So like.
Brian Quinn
Well, there's also. Before you, before you ask, within the answer, there's also a subset of the 13 percenters, which are the women.
Matt
I was wondering about that. Yeah, yeah. So 13 of the listeners of the. That's what that are women.
Brian Quinn
But it's, it's jumped since we did the poll. But they're still the 13%. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Kind of kept it.
Matt
Have you ever thought about getting those numbers up?
Brian Quinn
We have. What did they jump up to? Like there was something like 18%, 19%, something like that. Yeah.
Matt
Did that just happen or did you.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Introduce a segment.
Brian Quinn
We've yet to be able to do anything that draws people in. Many ideas that we have, like what can we do? You know, that would make more people listen.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Okay. We don't roll that stone up the hill all that often.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, it Was a good question. You say, have we ever thought about getting that number up? How would you even suggest doing such a thing?
Matt
Well, I guess there's like. Well, you can come at it from two directions, right? It's like, have conversations that appeal to more women or have conversations that drive men away.
Brian Quinn
Oh, no.
Walt Flanagan
Neither of which sound appealing.
Brian Quinn
Periods.
Matt
Yeah, that's probably what they like to discuss.
Brian Quinn
Real quickly. It comes up, notice that you're embracing yourself because you're probably cold.
Jonna
Yes. No, I'm good. I'm okay.
Brian Quinn
You don't need a sweat. If you need a sweatshirt, I got you.
Jonna
I did wear shorts and a T shirt. And on the way here, Matt said, why did you do that? It's going to be cold in there. And I said, it's a podcast studio. They're not going to have the AC running. And he said, I'm sure they have central air.
Matt
Central air, yeah.
Brian Johnson
Well, you have merch lying around if you want to throw something on.
Matt
Great.
Jonna
Okay. I'm. I'm good.
Brian Quinn
You're covered.
Matt
If you probably help drive up viewers, like, all the women listening would see how, like, gentlemanly everybody's been. They have jackets on available that could get you to 14 the word.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, I don't know if that can undo 12 years of misogyny.
Jonna
Remember, this is episode zero.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. We could all start again. You hear that, Reddit? It's a new start. Now everybody likes me again.
Brian Johnson
I'm back to Teflon's back.
Gideon
50% less.
Matt
Q. Yeah.
Jonna
Is that what. Read it once. 50% less Q. one point, they did.
Brian Johnson
At one point, there was a. There was a. An overwhelming request for me to step back more.
Jonna
Okay.
Matt
Did something.
Brian Johnson
Was there. One person made a comment and we blew it up in terror.
Jonna
Okay, so Reddit. Does Reddit call the shots on this show?
Brian Quinn
Absolutely not.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
Nope.
Jonna
Let it be.
Matt
Terrific.
Brian Quinn
We let them call the shots. We wouldn't be recording anymore.
Jonna
Okay. Yeah.
Brian Quinn
They think they have great ideas. They don't.
Jonna
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matt
I definitely stopped into the Reddit to do, like, my. My homework. Yeah, yeah.
Brian Quinn
All the love.
Brian Johnson
That was a mistake.
Matt
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, like, Reddit is like, you know, it's like, I don't know, usually with others, like, other anthropological exercises, Reddit can be useful.
Gideon
Yeah.
Matt
The one thing I noticed was that, like, your Wikipedia is, like, pretty thin compared to, like.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
And it's like, do the Redditors not know that they can chime in on Wikipedia as well?
Brian Quinn
Or, like, I'm sure now, have they
Brian Johnson
been stopped or like, okay, yeah, I'm sure they know.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, I think they keep their hateful comments to Reddit as opposed to, like, going to other avenues, you know, like.
Brian Johnson
Well, because when you go to Wikipedia, somebody else could take it down and change it. So.
Brian Quinn
Right.
Brian Johnson
Engage in this constant battle.
Gideon
The moderation on the Reddit and the subreddit is pretty. It's tight, but we let a lot of stuff go to, you know, not be censor.
Brian Johnson
That's by the way, Ginnam's decision. We told them to censor it.
Gideon
I'm a moderator. I am a moderator, not the moderator.
Matt
Okay, right on. All right, so you're like in the
Brian Quinn
weeds on it, but if somebody says something particularly nasty, you have the ability to take that comment down?
Gideon
Yes. Yeah, usually. Usually I floated to the other moderators and it's a consensus.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Gideon
Yeah, I don't like striking the ban hammer down unless I really have to.
Brian Quinn
How do I get to be a moderator on there? The sole moderator.
Gideon
You have to be at the top one. Everyone above you has to leave.
Brian Quinn
Oh, okay.
Gideon
So I would have been the top moderator. One point and someone took me down and then dropped me down to the bottom of the moderator list. It's all about how many, how long you've been a moderator.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, so I haven't been on Reddit and coming up on three years, three and a half years. I just. Yeah, so I don't, I don't. I can't go there.
Matt
Gotcha. I imagine you have a different relationship
Brian Johnson
with it, and it's just some kooks on there that have been there for almost a decade that just do nothing.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, like the people, like the people that want to interact the most are the people that hate you the most, you know?
Jonna
Yeah, like restaurant reviews. You're only getting the, the zero stars mostly.
Brian Quinn
Yep.
Jonna
Yeah.
Matt
Is that just the natural turn of all Reddits or like, did you is like a certain sect of your listeners?
Brian Quinn
I don't know. Well, I heard now get them gleefully came back to me last week and was like, everybody on Reddit thinks you're bald. So people suggested that I shave my head like him so, you know, so I could appear to, you know.
Matt
Got it.
Brian Quinn
So I appear to be really bold. I embrace it, I guess.
Gideon
But we went to the, we went to the bold subreddit where I had posted because I shaved my head for a wedding or after a wedding. And the amount it is, like, everyone there is supportful, you know, very supportive of you shaving your head and like, you know, hey, you're looking great. You know, it's just. It's so much positivity.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Gideon
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
I'm going to start hanging out on our ball a lot more. Can't go to ours. Can't go to TSD Cares. But Gidem, I'm sure you've seen Curb youb Enthusiasm.
Jonna
Yes.
Brian Quinn
Do you remember the episode where the cop is talking to Larry about being bald? And Larry's like, in all fairness, he's like, you're not bald. That's a stylish choice that you've made where, like, Larry's really bald. And I think that applies to Gidem, too. People shouldn't be complimenting him. He shaved his head.
Jonna
Oh, it's so. It's a stolen valor.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Gideon
I'm going bald. Like, there is a spot up here that has no hair whatsoever. So it's still smooth.
Jonna
Yeah. It looks like you got a lot of hair there.
Gideon
Yeah. Don't.
Jonna
Okay.
Matt
Still got options.
Jonna
Yeah, you've got a lot of options.
Gideon
Yeah. But I had. I went for a tonsure cut for a wedding for somebody, so I look like. So I was a friar. Like Friar Tuck.
Jonna
I'm guessing that was Jimmy and Michelle's wedding.
Gideon
Yes.
Jonna
Okay.
Matt
Yeah. Our roommates, Jimmy and Michelle were in the room next to us.
Gideon
Oh, okay.
Matt
Congratulations to them.
Brian Johnson
Sweet people.
Jonna
So actually, that brings up a good question. So it seems like you have this collection of people in your universe, Jimmy being one of them. You know, you have. What do we have? We have also a lawyer. A doctor. We met.
Brian Quinn
Sexy lawyer. Doctor.
Jonna
Sexy lawyer. A doctor.
Walt Flanagan
Homicide detective.
Matt
Detective.
Jonna
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
A priest.
Brian Johnson
We have a priest. We have an exorcist.
Jonna
Okay.
Matt
It does seem like you're, like, assembling, like, a small town.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, well, yeah, we. TSC town.
Brian Quinn
Yep. Disney Town.
Brian Johnson
There's a map somewhere. Okay.
Matt
How do these characters come in? Are they, like, very organically? Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Like, Jimmy came around because Q had cut his hair on the show.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
And Jimmy came in and. And bought it because the. The. The idea was that Jimmy Q would sell his hair for two grand. Whoever bought it, the money would go to get him so he could get his teeth fixed, you see?
Brian Johnson
Well, no, it wasn't. I was gonna sell my hair for two grand. We cut the hair, and Gideon was gonna sell it for whatever price.
Brian Quinn
Forever price you could get.
Brian Johnson
And then held on to it for two years, never sold it, and then got an offer for 2000 and sold a lock of my hair for 2000.
Brian Quinn
Right.
Brian Johnson
Now, I thought that was insane. So I give him A Lego thing that I built as well to try and take the sting out. The $300 set, I was like, maybe this will help. But that's how Jimmy got in. That's why he's called Jimmy the hair guy. Yeah, yeah, because he bought the hair.
Brian Quinn
Well, that's initially how we met him, but the way we got him was at Walt, I think, was like, you have to really pursue a maniac who will spend $2,000 on air. We got to see what else this guy's about. So he was about a lot, it turned out.
Matt
How much did you think it would go for?
Brian Johnson
I mean, a hundred bucks, you know, something like that. So 2000 free was. I wouldn't have sold it for 2000. I would have been like, I wasn't involved in this transaction. I would have been like, you can't spend $2,000 on that. But I wasn't around to stop it. So, by the way, get him. Has not gotten his teeth fixed or moved into an apartment, which are the two things that we're raising money for.
Matt
So, okay, you still hold. Is it collecting interest or did you spend on something else?
Gideon
I had it in PayPal for a while, but now I have it in a high interest savings account.
Matt
Oh, okay. So you put it to work for you? Yeah.
Brian Quinn
It's only using 3. It's only losing 3% to inflation.
Gideon
Currently, I'm at 4%.
Brian Quinn
Oh, yeah? Yeah. All right.
Matt
And how'd you. Did you put it on ebay? Is that how Jimmy came across it or.
Gideon
No, I was going to put it on. What happened was I was going to put it. The Impractical Jokers movie was starting to take off, and I was weak. Well, then Covid happened, so that kind of killed it. I was going to, like, I, you know, I was getting ready for it to go, like, you know, a little more nationwide. And then I was going to list it so that it had, like, nationwide appeal. And then Covid happened and, you know, just everything went to everything. And so then I just had it in the case in a case in the studio or in our display case
Matt
with, you know, 2,000 plans for.
Gideon
Yeah.
Matt
Were you surprised it went for $2,000?
Gideon
I knew it would eventually go for that amount.
Matt
You knew what you had?
Gideon
I know what I got.
Brian Johnson
So this is a sort of whip crack conversation that we're going to get from. Get him on every episode going forward for new listeners.
Brian Quinn
Yep.
Matt
Okay. Yeah. But I guess, like, my question is, like, how did get him get involved? Like, because us people were like, well, cheering Whenever you walked into rooms and
Brian Johnson
stuff like, you want my side? You want. Get him signed.
Brian Quinn
In all fairness, they also cheered for Walt's dog.
Brian Johnson
So, yeah, when we first started the podcast, we were trying to get tell them stevedave.com and we mentioned it on the air, and Gideon was listening, so he. He bought it. Squaddle. It squatted on it.
Gideon
No, no, no.
Matt
And then I had it before.
Gideon
Then
Walt Flanagan
he had it years before the podcast even started.
Brian Johnson
I just had my side and his son. Okay.
Walt Flanagan
All right.
Brian Johnson
And then, you know, he claimed to. He was in the comic book store at the time. We were recording the. The episodes in the secret stash in Red bank. And Gideon would come in and he would claimed to like the show and claimed to, you know, be a good person. And then he wanted to charge us. He wanted to make money off us, and we came to an agreement on the price, and then he reneged and raised the price. So I hated his guts. And for that purpose alone, I think Walt brought him around more and more.
Walt Flanagan
That's not true. That's not true. If. If I. If I really felt you hated him, I wouldn't. I wouldn't bring him back around. I just.
Brian Johnson
I certainly didn't like him.
Walt Flanagan
No, you didn't like him, But I felt that there was so much to scratch beneath the surface.
Brian Quinn
You had no idea what you were doing to yourself.
Walt Flanagan
I know. Yeah, but I felt he was too interesting of a human being to just let wander away because he was a listener. And it was just by happenstance that he lived in the same state we did, only about an hour away from us. And it was just a coincidence that he owned tellemsteivedave.com because it was a line from a Kevin Smith movie.
Brian Johnson
That's.
Matt
That's why you purchased it. You, like, heard you knew the line had weight to it.
Gideon
No, I was. Well, by that point in time, I was going by get him, Steve Dave. So I had an original screen name, and I had a psycho ex girlfriend, and I had to switch names on AOL Instant Messenger. So I came. I misremembered the line of telling Steve, dad says, get him, Steve Dave. And so I had that as my username. And then I just started, like, godaddy was doing those 99 cent domain deals, and I was just buying up domain names for no good reason whatsoever, because I had a webcam site. I had webcam set up in my house, and I would have all those domains lead to my webcam site, so I would just drop them anywhere I could. So I bought get them Steve Dave, both spellings, and then also Tell them Steve Dave.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Years before a podcast even existed.
Gideon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was. I was. I was listening to. I was the Smodcast fan at that time. But you guys hadn't started Tom Steve Dave yet.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Jonna
Okay. And. And so with this podcast, from what I understand, you two, Walt and Brian had a TV show and wanted to do a podcast together. And Q, you were their audio engineer.
Brian Johnson
No TV show came later.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Brian Quinn
The TV show, I think, came out, what, 2012. And we started 2010 almost because of the podcast.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Jonna
Okay, got it.
Brian Johnson
So. So Brian and Walt appeared in several of Kevin's early movies as the same characters. And Walt's line in the movies was, tell him, Steve Dave.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
And so when Kevin Smith started his network up, he asked these guys to do it, to do a podcast. And I think Kevin forced the name on you. Right? He was like, call Tom Steve Dave.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, I wanted to call it something different. I want to ride on his coattails. And we, like. Walt was initially. You were for it. You were for Telemstead. You were like, it's instant recognition. I remember. Whereas I was like, let's do our own thing. Let's have anything to do with Kevin.
Walt Flanagan
I wasn't that against it.
Gideon
Wasn't it joint, counter joint?
Brian Quinn
I wanted to do a joint counter joint where I would smoke and I would debate Walt on different topics. I don't know how long that would have lasted.
Jonna
Okay. And you were their sound engineer at first?
Brian Johnson
Well, not really. I mean, I was just Brian's friend and Walt's friend, so they needed help. So I was like, I'll come down and work the soundboard. But I didn't know anything about doing the soundboard.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
I literally was just. Just hooking up mics and just recording it for them to help out.
Jonna
Okay, and then you got a TV show then?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, Then.
Brian Quinn
Then he started giving us the hi hat.
Brian Johnson
Well, then. Then Comic Book Man. Their show was based on Tele Steve Dave. I was supposed to be on Comic Book Men.
Jonna
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
And true TV tried to legally block me from being on it, and then they realized they couldn't because I'd carved out in the contract any projects I'd have to do with. Tell them Steve Dave. And they called me up and basically they, like, begged me to not do it. They're like, please just do that. And the schedule was getting so bad that there was no way I could have been on both TV shows anyway.
Walt Flanagan
Wow.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
What a Decision.
Jonna
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Comic Book Man.
Brian Johnson
So I stepped down from, I stepped down from Comic Book Man. Mike Zapsick steps up, steps up and takes the role. And the rest is. Oh, sorry. The rest is.
Brian Quinn
Oh my God. You believe this fucking guy with the phone?
Matt
Princess Diana would never pick up the phone during a podcast.
Brian Quinn
Okay. There's telling. There's Tesla town.
Matt
Oh, you do have a town.
Brian Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Brian Quinn
The early dream was to have a compound so we could all live on it.
Matt
You, you already have many aspects of society covered. Yeah, we talked to Troy and. Is it Johnny Law? The, the lawyer?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah, we have a lawyer.
Brian Quinn
It's like that. Did you see that documentary Wild Wild country where the, all the Indians came in and they like built that they built a town and they brought in people that. It's like these were serious engineers that knew how to build roads and bridges and all this other stuff. I don't know if we have any engineers.
Matt
Okay, you gotta get some civic engineers.
Walt Flanagan
I guarantee you I'll have two, at least two contact me after him saying
Brian Quinn
that you need a bridge built.
Jonna
Do you feel like you have enough to secede from the union and kind of create a sovereign state?
Brian Quinn
If Texas can't do it, I'm not sure what our chances are.
Brian Johnson
We're more just waiting for society to break down as soon as it crumbles.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Yeah. And then we got our people.
Brian Johnson
Right? We got it.
Jonna
And you have your secret police.
Brian Quinn
Sure.
Matt
Yeah. Okay, so I see the, the four colored demons there. Now I like, I understand this is a motorcycle club and there's one rule for, for entry, which is that you've seen a motorcycle.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, I, I, I forget like, I was, I forgot what episode we first mentioned. I was driving either home or, or to tell them Steve, Dave and I had. And it just popped in my head. I forget why. Like we're, we must have been watching that fucking TV show.
Brian Quinn
I remember you coming in. I want a comic themed motorcycle.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. And it was, that was it. I was like, I want a comic themed motorcycle club. And, and the name came pretty quick. And then. Yeah, it came together pretty quick. So it is, it's four color demons. It's the world's only motorcycle comic book theme motorcycle club. We're pretty loose. It's a free entry. There's a whole website for. You can go on and sign up and you get your membership card.
Brian Quinn
We're over 10,000 strong.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. There's no really dues or anything. And it's all over and like people in Ireland will have meetups like they. Ants 4. Call it demon members will have. Will organize meetups. That's so, like, if they're independent of us. Independent of us. Like, they'll be in, like, London this weekend. We're having a. Tell them four colored demons meet up or.
Matt
Oh, man.
Brian Quinn
When you do something like Qs, you realize that, like, these people are like. Like, we're incidental at this point.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
They have their community, they have their friends. They have, like, the people they want to see when they go to these meetups, you know, so it's like they're all like, we're kind of outsiders a little bit.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. We're not cool enough to be on the inside. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, we got the. We got the. The logo. The Kucharik brothers did that awesome logo for us. And, you know, we got. We. You get yourself a leather vest, bud. Get yourself a patch on the back and get yourself. People, like, get their numbers online and they just put the number on their vest. It's like as like a rank.
Matt
Oh, right on.
Brian Johnson
Even though all numbers are kind of equal, there's no. Yeah, yeah. It just is what it is. I think I'm one. Brian's two.
Brian Quinn
Three.
Brian Johnson
Three is Walt.
Jonna
Yeah. All the numbers are kind of equal, but, like, I'm one, you're these two.
Brian Quinn
The lower numbers are definitely coveted. Sure.
Brian Johnson
Some numbers are more equal than others.
Brian Quinn
You know what I mean?
Brian Johnson
But.
Matt
Get him. Do you have a number?
Gideon
Yeah, I'm number five.
Matt
Number five.
Jonna
Pretty big number.
Walt Flanagan
Frank should have been number five. We have a. We have a professor, too. Frank Five.
Jonna
Okay.
Matt
So you have a college educational.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, he was. He was a Q West.
Matt
Oh, right on.
Brian Quinn
He was up on stage. He was the guy who drank half a bottle of vodka before coming on. Because he was like. You didn't tell him? He was like, I didn't know that I was going to have to be up there on stage. So, you know, like. So right before he, like, he drank some vodka and I went back to my text and I was like, I'm gonna call you up tonight on stage. Just so you know. So he definitely was aware. You know, I think he just used that as an excuse to. To down some juicy Tits.
Gideon
Vodka straight.
Brian Johnson
So if you look around the studio, you'll see, like, a lot of the shows that are on Patreon because we have, like a whole. We basically have a whole network at this point that's really accessible through Patreon. It's like, they'll do. The guys will do like a KISS podcast or any Sorts of what I got. We have a comic book, one called I Buy Comics, where we sit there and talk about comics that we.
Brian Quinn
I sell comics.
Brian Johnson
I sell comics. Bride tries. Where bride tries New hobbies and stuff like that.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Matt
Baron Von Flanagan. You're Baron Von. Yes, correct.
Walt Flanagan
Yes.
Matt
So the Barons are, like. They, like, dressed up and stuff. There's like a cosmic.
Brian Quinn
Oh, the wannabes dressed up as. Yeah, they cosplayed as Barons. Yeah.
Matt
So what's the. The premise of the. The Barons, or.
Walt Flanagan
I was Origin. I was into the whole shtick. Or. Of horror hosts that host horror movies. You know, like Svengoolie.
Matt
Sure.
Walt Flanagan
And the guys who preceded him. Zacherly and I've always been into that, and I wanted to create my own version of that and do it on the podcast.
Matt
Is that a Patreon thing as well?
Walt Flanagan
Once in a while, like, he pops up here now and then. For a long time, I think I overused him. So he's kind of been retired for a while, so. He hasn't been. He was at Jimmy's wedding, though, ironically.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, he was.
Walt Flanagan
He asked me to come to. Yes, he came. Well, yeah. It's a lot easier to wear a mask to go out in public, I find for myself. So when he asked me to go to the wedding dressed as Baron Von Flanagan, I wholeheartedly agreed because. Yeah, that, to me, is more comfortable.
Jonna
Yeah, that sounds incredible. I would love to have a character that just goes to work for me.
Brian Quinn
Speaking of characters, it is really interesting to watch you slip in and out of characters. Like, I went to your. Your improv show, and then, like, with Sherman the scumbag, it's really, like, how much improv experience do you have? I know you're supposed to be asking us stuff, but. A lot.
Jonna
Oh, yeah, a lot. I. I started in college, and then that became sort of my major unofficially, you know? And then I moved to New York just simply to pursue improv comedy and see where that led and see what happened.
Brian Quinn
Now look at you.
Gideon
Yeah.
Jonna
Well, I found the one improv comedy job in the entire world working on Impractical Jokers. I think it's the only one that is that exact job, but it's really cool.
Brian Quinn
I really. When we did the Sherman the scumbag thing, I really appreciated Q sandwiching me between you and Ambergio. Two fucking accomplished. Oh, did I knock my thing down? Okay. That's just for us, though.
Brian Johnson
All right.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Two accomplished improvs, and I'm like, ARR. Hey, everybody. ARR.
Jonna
Well, I'll take credit for Joe as well. He was actually my student years ago.
Brian Quinn
Was he?
Jonna
Before we were co workers on the show.
Brian Quinn
Really?
Brian Johnson
How was he as a student?
Jonna
He was great. Joe Ambergio's like the most lovely man on earth, so. He was.
Brian Quinn
He's a really nice guy.
Jonna
Yeah, he's just. Yeah, he's. He's. He's someone that makes you very comfortable to, like, be in a room with. I know you guys have had him on the show.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Jonna
But, yeah, he was. He was. He was good. You know, I had notes for him. I helped him a lot.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, I figured I could tell when I was watching the improv show.
Jonna
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brian Johnson
No, John is a killer. Like, we will get. We get ideas. You know, we're writing the season and stuff like that. Everybody will submit these packets of jokes and like, John is like always, always killer. Always, always killer. Yeah, I use a lot of her stuff and claim it as my own.
Brian Quinn
That's great. You're the genius.
Jonna
And I'll be honest, every so often, an idea of Matt's comes into one of those packages.
Brian Johnson
Oh, excellent. Yeah. Oh, that's great.
Jonna
So sometimes it's a twice stolen joke.
Brian Johnson
And do you remember Nick Giovanni? So Brian worked with Nick years ago at the View Askew office, and Nick is now a writer on the show. And Nick and Jonna have a fun relationship. They seem to get along.
Brian Quinn
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jonna
We're both very dark people.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Jonna
Yeah, yeah. Nick's into conspiracy theories and I love to listen.
Brian Johnson
All right, so what do we got? So let's. Let's. Yeah, let's.
Brian Quinn
Well, I figured I could see Matt's notebook from here, and he was about to ask, like, your sponsors.
Brian Johnson
What sponsors do you gu. Like? Who we got?
Brian Quinn
And I was about to tell you. Yeah. Are you familiar with Raycon? No. Well, I'm about to tell you. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Yes, Tell me more.
Brian Quinn
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Brian Johnson
Not sold yet, Matt.
Brian Quinn
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Jonna
Yes.
Brian Quinn
So you run a lot?
Jonna
I guess I wear a lot of the clothes that runners would wear.
Brian Quinn
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Jonna
Okay.
Gideon
I wear mine when I'm working out at the buffet.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. You know, has a dedicated pair for the. For the buffet, if you can believe it. I'm not kidding around.
Brian Johnson
There is eating Raycons.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Designed for like, for powerful chewing, not to be pop out
Gideon
for loud yelling that other. There's other customers here.
Brian Johnson
You could eat two fried shrimp. You could eat 100 fried shrimp. He's done it both. And the Raycons have stayed in.
Brian Quinn
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Jonna
That's a fun word.
Brian Johnson
Ben Franklin. More bifocals, right?
Brian Quinn
Yeah, yeah.
Brian Johnson
You're progressive.
Brian Quinn
I gotta have at the end of my nose a little like rectangle.
Brian Johnson
You're the most progressive guy I know politically.
Brian Quinn
Thank you.
Brian Johnson
So it would make sense that you would hear. You hear that
Brian Quinn
it's annoying that all your devices have different charging cords. Your phone, your headphones, your watch, your Kindle, all different. Honestly, it should be illegal like it is in the uk, right, Gidem?
Gideon
Yes.
Brian Quinn
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Jonna
The worst thing a father can do.
Brian Quinn
Buy something for themselves. Something. No. Father's Day is coming up. Let's see. Magsafe Wireless charging, Apple Watch Charger, Lightning, usb, C, every way you need to charge, all in one premium device. 20 watts of power, 10,000mAh capacity. Get him. What's that again?
Gideon
Milliamp hours.
Brian Quinn
Of course. That's good. You've got three full phone chargers in your pocket. Ridge was actually built by father and son, designed to meet the same standards dad set every single day. Who's dad? I don't think that's universal that dads are setting these high standards for their kids. I mean, I can tell you from personal experience that's not the case.
Brian Johnson
There was no Ridge wallet building in your garage?
Brian Quinn
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Brian Johnson
I have a question between these two. Matt. What do you think of a guy that gives one price for something and then turns around and tries to rip you off for a higher price? What are they?
Matt
I would make him a regular part of my life.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, right. You carry for the rest of your life.
Gideon
They felt they were under pressure and made a decision under duress.
Brian Johnson
Grown man made an agreement. Anybody can come up with any excuses to negate it. Who?
Matt
I'm gonna have to think about.
Brian Johnson
It takes a temple special type man to, like, honor the agreement anybody can come up with.
Gideon
Weren't you.
Walt Flanagan
Weren't you given guidance by another podcast?
Gideon
Yeah, people had reached out to me and said that, you know, I was being lowballed. So.
Walt Flanagan
Is that podcast still around?
Gideon
No, the one person died. So.
Walt Flanagan
So what?
Brian Johnson
Making great decisions?
Gideon
It was a couple do you think
Walt Flanagan
that they would have hired your ass if you lost your job or do you think that they would have taken you in like a lost puppy?
Gideon
They took me in a couple times.
Walt Flanagan
How so?
Brian Quinn
What do you mean how so?
Gideon
Well, I used to go down to there for a mummer's parade. To their place for mummer's parade.
Jonna
I don't think that's taking you in. I think they let you spend all night at your house.
Walt Flanagan
They would have let you squat basically. And the way you squatted in this office.
Gideon
I don't know.
Walt Flanagan
I don't think so.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Jonna
What's behind the gray curtain? I'm curious. Is that.
Gideon
Don't look behind the gray curtain.
Walt Flanagan
Okay.
Gideon
Yes.
Brian Johnson
It's a green screen. The office is normally disgusting.
Jonna
It's beautiful in here.
Brian Johnson
I know. It really is.
Jonna
It's beautiful. This is like the most basement ever.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. Normally it doesn't look like this. Normally there's piles of garbage everywhere. And by the way, when I mean garbage, I mean whatever your definition of garbage is, that's what was lying all around. Pizza boxes, wrappers.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
And then get him said John is coming and he cleaned the place up.
Jonna
He knows how I like it, you
Brian Johnson
know, and it was. It became. It was starting to get unbearable.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
So something had to be done. I suspect what was done was that curtain was put up and everything was pushed behind it.
Walt Flanagan
I would like you to go look behind that curtain and be wrong. Yeah, it's just. It's just foldable chairs, a podium and some boxes of. Of merchandise that we have to pack and send out in June.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. You know what? Yeah, it's not bad.
Brian Quinn
In your face.
Brian Johnson
Everything is in a place that it's supposed to be.
Walt Flanagan
Yes.
Brian Johnson
Not just. We don't.
Walt Flanagan
We don't do half assed around here.
Gideon
Right. Or nothing. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
So where were we?
Brian Quinn
We were at the. We were talking about the travel bank.
Gideon
Ridge.
Brian Quinn
Ridge.
Brian Johnson
Oh, we weren't done with that yet.
Brian Quinn
No, we weren't done with that. No, no. Q halfway through is like, let me look behind that.
Walt Flanagan
How much more is there to talk about?
Brian Quinn
I still got to give the the code and everything.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
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Brian Johnson
Steve.
Brian Quinn
Dave.
Brian Johnson
Nice.
Brian Quinn
All right, now, before the mics went hot, Q, Matt came up to me and he's like, jonah says, I'm in the bedroom.
Brian Johnson
Oh, really?
Brian Quinn
I need your help. I mean, he did tell me this confidentially, Right?
Brian Johnson
Okay.
Brian Quinn
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Brian Johnson
All right?
Brian Quinn
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Brian Johnson
I mean, they have a. I know, I know. Okay, all right, all right.
Brian Quinn
Sorry. I just need a patsy.
Matt
I communicated it with my eyes.
Brian Quinn
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Brian Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Brian Quinn
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Gideon
Oh, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
It's a mood altering drug as well.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, that's why I like it, man. I'm still popping it. I haven't had a mood altering drug in some time. This type of innovation is why Blue Chew Gold is the number one. What's that?
Brian Johnson
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Gideon
This is not sold in a bathroom in a vending machine.
Jonna
But I could grind it up and like put it in somebody's coffee.
Brian Quinn
You sure did tell somebody that's what you felt like.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. For the mood altering aspect of it,
Matt
gotta make sure you're the first person they see after that. That's how it works.
Brian Quinn
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Jonna
And I thank you, Brian. Thank you.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, no problem. I wouldn't have done it like you approached me earlier and was like, can you bring this up to Matt? Yeah, yeah.
Matt
No, don't worry. Like, I recently turned 40, and it seems like every algorithm on the face of the Earth is, like, you should really know about bluechew.
Jonna
And now we do.
Brian Johnson
We came to the right place. We've been doing this show 16 years. 16 years we've been flogging boner pills the entire time. The entire time. We've never been above it. Not even for an episode have we been above it.
Gideon
Boner pills and underwear.
Jonna
You'll know when you've made it with the ladies, when you're, you know, hawking the women's libido. I think that's. That's out there, you know?
Walt Flanagan
Does that exist, too?
Jonna
I believe it does.
Walt Flanagan
There's a Blue Chew for gals.
Jonna
I believe so.
Gideon
I was gonna say women have a libido.
Brian Johnson
The number set?
Gideon
13%.
Brian Johnson
Let's stick it up right now.
Matt
Here we go. We get to 14. And that sponsor's coming. Yeah, for sure.
Walt Flanagan
I didn't. I wasn't aware of this. What does that do? I mean, that. I thought that was all about, like, candles in a bath and some bath bombs. Yeah.
Gideon
Like, are we talking about Frank 5 now?
Walt Flanagan
Is that coming to pill for him?
Brian Johnson
Because I didn't trick their eyes into thinking that you look like Brad P. Whoever the hell is out there now.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Who is out there? Brad Pitt, I think. Could still be the gold standard. I saw him recently. I'm like, jesus Christ.
Walt Flanagan
This guy.
Gideon
Oh, the guy from Maverick?
Brian Johnson
Well, why don't we ask Shauna? She's here.
Walt Flanagan
Cruz?
Gideon
No, the other James Garner.
Walt Flanagan
Cruz look like it stuck his head
Brian Johnson
in the beehive lately. James Garner is the new, hottest thing.
Matt
Gen Z. Women are just looking for a James Garner type.
Brian Johnson
I mean, aren't we all looking for a James Garner type?
Gideon
I was thinking Glen Powell.
Walt Flanagan
Is that from the Rock profile?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, but he was in the movie version of Maverick.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, as the older man.
Brian Johnson
He was Mel Gibson's dad. Oh, yeah. What? Wasn't he the original Maverick?
Matt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was.
Brian Johnson
So. So he connected him to Mel Gibson,
Gideon
who's in Project Hail Mary.
Brian Johnson
Gosling.
Gideon
Yeah.
Jonna
Gosling. Yeah. Okay.
Brian Johnson
That's a dream boat. And that movie I finally saw is.
Gideon
Oh, you did.
Brian Johnson
It was so good.
Matt
Yeah, yeah.
Brian Johnson
Project Hatmere was awesome.
Matt
Oh, man.
Brian Johnson
It was really a little different than
Gideon
the book, but it was a little different way. Acceptable.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Speaking of which, real quickly, 100 pages
Brian Johnson
into DCC Dungeon called Carl.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
What are you thinking?
Brian Quinn
I like it. And I see why you love it.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
It has a lot to do with Dungeons and Dragons and video games.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, I can tell the influence is there.
Brian Johnson
That stuff evens out, like.
Brian Quinn
Does it?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, it's. They give it to you heavy early on, so, you know, so, you know. And then later on, all you gotta know is like, oh, they went up. They stop even discussing levels and. Okay.
Brian Quinn
Very enjoyable so far.
Brian Johnson
That's great. Yeah. Did you get the mongo yet?
Brian Quinn
No, no Mango.
Brian Johnson
Okay. Okay, great.
Gideon
How far are you into. How far are you into book 8?
Brian Johnson
A little more than halfway.
Gideon
Okay. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
I think Planet.
Brian Johnson
I don't want to ruin it for. No. You. I'm not that cool.
Brian Quinn
But it's not a special needs person, is it?
Brian Johnson
In a way.
Brian Quinn
All right.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. But not really. I think I'm on the fifth race.
Gideon
Yeah. I'm like 40% in. Yes. They're just doing the third. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
All right. This is what we do, though. We go to do zero episodes and
Brian Quinn
we don't start talking about.
Matt
I'm curious, is this a single book or is this a series?
Brian Johnson
Dungeon Crawler Carl is a series of books about a guy who. Earth gets taken over by aliens that turns Earth basically into a dungeon. Dungeon and Dragons Maze is the loose way to describe it. And you. You have to. And they broadcast it like a TV show, so it's like a Hellish Truman show type thing. And they have to survive their fight. And this guy Carl has his girlfriend's cat with her, and she gets super intelligent because of something the aliens do, and it's him and this cat fighting their way through a dungeon. But it's seven books. Eight books now.
Gideon
Eight books now.
Brian Johnson
Each book is, like, better than the one. Yeah. It changes as it goes. Like, it's. It's kind of a different story now.
Matt
Does it really reward a reader that knows Dungeons and Dragons?
Brian Johnson
Really? No. It's definitely an easier in, but no, there's. It really doesn't.
Brian Quinn
I'm not a bit, like. I don't know a lot about Dungeons and Dragons. I still can. Like.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. They just gamify the rules.
Brian Quinn
As long as you know the basics.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Gideon
It's like, there's like no rolling or anything, but, like, there is the levels. So you have to learn about levels a little.
Matt
Like leveling up.
Gideon
Yeah. And quests and.
Matt
Got it.
Brian Johnson
But all of that and camp falls away fairly quickly. Okay. It's just. You're into it and then it starts getting into the political of why the aliens are doing it, and it becomes this whole other. Other Thing. Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. Anyway, the eighth book came out last week, so me and Kiddim are. Yeah, hot and heavy.
Brian Quinn
All excited.
Brian Johnson
And if you're an audiobook guy, the audiobooks are fucking awesome.
Matt
Yeah, yeah.
Gideon
I'm a reader, so I just read it on my phone. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
So. All right, so let's get into this. We do. We get distracted. Do you guys feel so far that we've created anything that's welcoming to new listeners as of yet?
Jonna
Yes, yes. I have to tell you, it happened during the commercial break, but I think I want to listen. I'm drawn in. It was when Gidham recommended the special headphones just for eating honestly. And it was right on the heels of talking about the Baron and Em. Like, I think I would come for the comedy and I would say, stay for the life advice. Like, I. I feel like I've learned a lot just in the few minutes that we've been together. And you're all just so likable. I. I want to listen. I mean, can I listen?
Brian Johnson
Yes.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yes. And I think after this episode, you'll be even more prepared to listen.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Those are the Barons by you. There's multiple colored Barons. Just to go on what we are before.
Jonna
Oh, cool.
Brian Johnson
I'm the White Baron in the middle there.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Who's a bit of a doof, apparently. And Brian's the Gold Baron. Where's the Gold Baron? Over there. Over there on the right up there above. Get him.
Brian Quinn
I'm the gay baron.
Brian Johnson
He's. He's the gay Baron. Just puts us in positions.
Gideon
There's lots of facts about Paul Lynn.
Brian Quinn
I had no choice in the matter. Judy Garland put this outfit on.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. We have a Claymation movie which. Matt, you worked in. In stop motion for a while, right? As I recall.
Matt
I still do. It's kind of like a side hustle. My friend's the actual animator.
Brian Johnson
Okay.
Matt
We do. You guys would remember.
Gideon
What's his name?
Matt
Alex Kropen.
Gideon
Okay, sure.
Matt
That would have been crazy. Yeah, same guy.
Walt Flanagan
Do you know Mr. Oz? Ever heard of that animator, Mr. Oz. Mr. Oz.
Matt
No, I mean, not Frank Oz.
Walt Flanagan
No connection to Frank Oz. He's his own Oz.
Matt
Yeah, for sure.
Brian Quinn
Oz unto himself.
Brian Johnson
We like him now.
Walt Flanagan
We kind of reconnected. I did, me and him, and we had an email back and forth. Tried to, like, build bridges after a burnt, destroyed bridge, but I wasn't able to convince him to come back into TST town. He was polite, though, and said he wished us well, but he didn't feel like he could Ever work with us ever again.
Brian Johnson
I don't blame him. Hard to blame the guy.
Matt
So you're looking to add an animator to your 50s?
Walt Flanagan
Claymation only.
Matt
Claymation only.
Walt Flanagan
But they're harder to find. They're more maniacs than I found. When you work in Claymation, you've got to be a bit special.
Brian Johnson
But we have a line in here to a non claymation anime.
Matt
Could definitely do Claymation. Yeah, he's. He. So we have a contract with Marvel. We do the. What the videos for YouTube, which is, like, you probably remember, like, the panels in the middle of the comics where they have the action figures. Do, like a little sketch. Oh, yeah. It was usually to, like, advertise the actual Hasbro toys.
Walt Flanagan
Okay.
Matt
But yeah, he's made, like, hundreds of these things since, like.
Brian Johnson
And you write them with him.
Matt
Yeah, so I'll write them and do voices. John is like. John has done. John is the voice of Captain Marvel.
Brian Johnson
Nice. And that's on an official Marvel product.
Matt
Yeah.
Gideon
Whoa.
Brian Johnson
So you are Captain Marvel.
Jonna
I guess. I didn't remember.
Walt Flanagan
Wow.
Brian Johnson
I didn't even know that.
Jonna
Awesome.
Matt
And canon. You are. Yeah, she's the, like, stop motion. Carol Danvers.
Brian Johnson
Wow, that's cool.
Matt
Yeah. You and Brie Larson.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
I think. I think we're going to get you guys some low numbers on those four color demons. Captain Marvel here. Yeah.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
How much to sell your number?
Walt Flanagan
Well, I'll sell mine.
Brian Quinn
I don't do anything with it. Make me an offer.
Walt Flanagan
I've never used it once.
Brian Quinn
Does it get you discounts anywhere?
Matt
Well, yeah.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Matt
We'll have to talk or I'll like, Alex could definitely Claymate if you're. If you need Claymation. But yeah, he's. He's stopped motion. All things stop motion. But he is also, like. Yeah, your brain needs to be wired a certain way. Yeah, he, like, does all of his. He'll, like, not sleep for, like, 48 hours.
Walt Flanagan
Disappear from the real world for months on end.
Matt
It's wild. His office looks like this, too.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Just, like, surrounded by toys.
Jonna
Yeah. Maybe that's why I like this office. It looks like your office.
Matt
That's in Pittsburgh. I never get to be there.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, guys.
Matt
Those guys hold it down.
Brian Quinn
What other questions got Matt.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
So I feel like we covered, like, the community. Like, is awesome and sincere and inviting and, like, that's the first thing I learned to Q West. And then you got, like, the crew and we talked about get him and Jimmy. But, like, how do you, like. I understand you have a number of franks.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, some of them have died since the whole Frank thing started.
Brian Johnson
We went on a run where we were meeting interesting people who were named Frank. Like Frank one was just a cranky old dickhead, right? Or something like that.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, he was like the racist guy. Yeah, yeah, he was like. He was pretty bad.
Brian Johnson
But then Frank number two was a Auschwit survivor, Auschwitz survivor. He was this old and he survived Dachau and oh my God. We had to separate him from the first Frank. So we called him Frank 2. He was obviously the more interesting one. Which is. Which led to a great tell him Steve Dave moment early on where Brian Johnson was complaining about how hard his life was to a dock house survivor. It was phenomenal.
Brian Quinn
And then I took his survivor, took his seat.
Matt
Did you hear him out?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, it was interesting. So the Frank. So that put the Franks on the map. And then we just kept meeting these different Franks who were assigned the number of Frank three. The most relevant, I would say to this day is Frank 5, who is just a regular on the show and one of. Has become one of Walt's best friends. He was also at us.
Matt
He's at QS. I remember meeting him, Frank.
Brian Johnson
He owns a DeLorean. He's a back to Future fan. So he bought a DeLorean.
Gideon
He skipped Thanksgiving dinner spending with his family to drive down and visit the studio.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
At 35.
Walt Flanagan
That's how we met him. Yeah, he showed up one day, the day before Thanksgiving and the rest is history.
Matt
Yeah, there's Frank 4 up there.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, Frank 3 was. We don't hear from him much anymore, but Frank 4, I don't even remember.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, he was the guy. He came in very, very briefly. He came into the. The store one day and he was. He was from Staten island and we were talking to him for a bit and then he. It sort. Sort of. I can't remember how it came out, but that he had married his cousin.
Brian Johnson
Oh, we were like, what?
Brian Quinn
Yeah, and that's why we started talking to him. But he wasn't like. He's not a. Like Frank 3 for a long time. He was a regular part of the show. Frank five for even longer. Probably is now as we're part of the show.
Brian Johnson
Frank 1 and 2 were assuming dead at this point.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, I would have to imagine.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Brian. Frank too, a notable character. He was a World War II duck out concentration camp survivor and in parentheses, though Brian later contested his veteran status. So. Yeah, so yeah, we collect and usually like. Like the. Like Father Lance.
Jonna
Oh, you have a priest as well.
Brian Johnson
He's an exorcist. He's on the. He's on the Pittsburgh.
Brian Quinn
He's from the Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
Matt
You got a Yinzer exorcist on the show.
Brian Johnson
And he works with the church. He's an actual. On the church's exorcist squad. And when. When it. So Walt collects these guys and brings them in and finds these interesting people, and then they tend to stick around once they've been in.
Matt
So you're the purveyor of the.
Brian Johnson
Well, he answers emails,
Jonna
you bring them in, and then you guys deal with them, basically. Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Matt
We do have. We have some sources. Like, two of my, like, longtime friends are listeners of the show. One of them claims to have emailed with you. I like.
Gideon
Okay.
Matt
I don't know. He didn't even tell me about what. He was actually pretty unhelpful.
Brian Johnson
This is.
Matt
I guess I'll call out Jesse.
Walt Flanagan
Okay.
Matt
He was. He was like.
Walt Flanagan
I remember Jesse.
Jonna
Listener Jesse.
Gideon
That was the.
Matt
That was striking. Like, so, like, how many emails do you get?
Walt Flanagan
Like, it depends, you know, I found. And I understand it. I get it. Like, there's a kind of vibe that. With the show, I think anybody listens to podcast probably kind of gets that vibe. Like, you know, the people that are on the mic. So when you see guys like a Jimmy or Frank who are listeners and then they come in and then they kind of get. Get roles, regular roles, reoccurring that keep coming on, coming back, become part of the family, you'll find then you'll have a lot more emails of being like, well, here's what I can do. Here's what I am. And, like, they want to join the colony in a more important way than just listening sometimes. So I get a lot of emails like that.
Jonna
Like, I buy hair also.
Walt Flanagan
Yes.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
It never. It's just people have, like, People just have to break through.
Walt Flanagan
Through chemistry there, though, too, though, you know, Like Eli.
Brian Johnson
My boy Eli.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Who doesn't have an official ant title. But he. I. I went to. I gave him an extra ticket. He sat with me at Derosa show with the Netflix special. He hung out with me afterwards. Like, some of them just get their way into. You know, they prove to be.
Brian Quinn
Because they're cool and they're laid back.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. Like, I gave you, like, my number at this time. So that's. I don't think I've ever given. I think Ginham only got my number two years ago.
Brian Quinn
Jimmy was asking me for your number.
Brian Johnson
I'm like, well, Jimmy I gave my number.
Brian Quinn
Oh, did you give it to me? Eventually.
Brian Johnson
So far, so good. There are some random thoughts coming in at, like, 1am that I wonder why I love. He's always lovely, right?
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Gideon
Sometimes he's at work at that time.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. And then the text will come in and I'll be like, I don't know why he's telling me this. I just don't answer those.
Gideon
I love you.
Jonna
Jesus.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Jonna
Jimmy is the best. I want to say, like, he was so wonderful at Key West. He gave me, like, the support that I wish I got from my mom before I do comedy and after. I see why you have him around. He's just a wonderful maternal energy.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Ray of sunshine.
Brian Johnson
He was on the cruise. He was on the last cruise we did.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
He was on that. That's where I learned to like him. I actually didn't like Jimmy that much up until that point.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
He freaked me out a little bit. I didn't believe a person could be that nice.
Jonna
Okay. So it wasn't about the hair. It was just. He was too.
Brian Johnson
No, it was just that I, I. I kept trying to find out what his angle was.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
And he doesn't have an angle.
Jonna
He's.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, he doesn't. Yeah. But I had to get. I had to figure that out first.
Jonna
That's wild that it wasn't about the hair. Someone was too nice to you, and you couldn't figure it out.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah.
Jonna
Says everything about you I'm not sure about.
Matt
He just happened to pay two things. Thousand dollars for my hair.
Brian Johnson
And that's. Yeah, it was. It was a. It was a crazy start, but, yeah. Great guy. Yeah.
Matt
Someone who's, like, been to Jonna's comedy shows, like, with both her mom and Jimmy, and it's like, I can. I can confirm, like, Jimmy was, like, after the show, he, like, looked at me. He's like, how does she do it? Her mom is, like, very generous, but she's definitely like, all right, is it time to go home now? You know?
Jonna
But speaking of Key west, though, so, you know, we couldn't help but notice that Frank was there, Johnny Law was there. No. Walt. And I understand. It's because Walt don't fly.
Walt Flanagan
I do not fly.
Jonna
Okay. And we were wondering what else Don't Walt do drugs? Okay.
Brian Quinn
The list goes on.
Brian Johnson
Alcohol, seasoning, on food.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Gideon
I don't eat a lot of many foods.
Walt Flanagan
Many. I only have, like, maybe four things. I eat.
Matt
Eat.
Jonna
Wow.
Matt
What are they?
Gideon
Plain hamburger, no bun. Chicken.
Walt Flanagan
I'll let my Son.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, go ahead.
Matt
Tell them what?
Walt Flanagan
I don't.
Gideon
But I eat plain fries, no salt. Yeah, pizza. Plain pizza, chicken fingers.
Walt Flanagan
That's about it.
Brian Quinn
That's about it.
Gideon
So you can soda only from a fountain machine.
Jonna
I get that.
Matt
This is all, like, bowling alley food. Yeah, like bowling alley. Like drive in theater. Like,
Walt Flanagan
I like foods in a basket.
Brian Johnson
Years and years ago, what was the year we drove cross country for Comic Con, the three of us.
Brian Quinn
Oh, that would have been 2002, I think.
Brian Johnson
2002, we drove. Three of us drove across country.
Brian Quinn
2003 at the latest.
Brian Johnson
And Walt told me at the time that if he could, he would cast a magic spell, that the only way you could get drunk was to eat powdered human feces. He was like, then let's see the drunks Dr. Drink.
Jonna
I think we would all still do that.
Brian Johnson
That was my point. I'd throw it in the water and drink it back.
Jonna
Koolaid hides a lot of flavors.
Brian Johnson
So Walt has always had an aversion to, you know, drugs or outside influences. Yeah.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
He's probably steered me straight a lot of ways.
Matt
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
He's been a good influence on my life.
Gideon
Oh, really?
Walt Flanagan
How so?
Brian Johnson
Well, some. You know, sometimes. I promise you that I would.
Walt Flanagan
The amount of times you come in here and you're like, I. Guys, I'm really hungover. I got a bad headache. It doesn't seem like I'm staring you, right?
Gideon
Two months ago. Like, two months ago.
Brian Johnson
And when was the last time for that?
Walt Flanagan
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Can't even name it.
Gideon
I suspect many times you zoom in. That might be the reason sometimes.
Brian Johnson
Sometimes I have Walt on my shoulder. Yeah. Or you're telling me not to do things.
Jonna
Who's on the other shoulder?
Brian Johnson
Brian Johnson. You're looking at him. You're looking at both of them. You're looking at both of them.
Jonna
So that's interesting. So are the three of you really different people? And what is it? I guess. What about you guys is different? What draws you together as friends and co hosts?
Brian Quinn
I love painkillers.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
Walt doesn't.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
And I'm not talking about the baby shit either. I'm talking about Bay.
Brian Johnson
The. You got to go to rehab, like, two, three times to shake, and then
Brian Quinn
once you get rid of it.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Then it's okay. Then you're good. Then you're. Then you're like Walt Flanagan almost.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
Except for the weed and the occasional booze.
Matt
Yeah, I guess. Like, with. In the show, like, whenever you started out, did you have, like, specific responsibilities to the show? Like I. I heard, Walt, that you put together games.
Brian Johnson
Right.
Matt
And, like, I noticed at qs, like, you seem to introduce the topics.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, pretty much that.
Matt
So, like, was. Was that, like, intentional? Do you have, like, jobs?
Walt Flanagan
That was probably organic.
Matt
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
It just kind of fell into roles.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Early on.
Brian Johnson
Well, there was a thing with Walt specifically where. When. When we started it, Walt didn't want to do it, didn't want to do the podcast and didn't think it would last. So looking back over the long years has been something to see Walt become, like, this creative force. He's thrown himself into it in a way that I don't think any of us would have called. Like, a lot of the creativity you see around them came from Walt being like, I have this. The Barons this. That, like, came from Walt. From a guy who was largely uninterested in doing a podcast whatsoever. So it has been. It's been great to see my friend bloom into that sort of role as, like, a producer, main producer, almost, in a way. Brian, you know, always wanted. Wanted to do the podcast, did the podcast, but then stopped taking it seriously for a while because of a horrendous drug addiction. But comes in and drives the show. He steers the ship. He's out here. I come in. I don't prepare any. Walt says, I sleepwalk through the show. You know, Brian comes in, he sees. He becomes with topics every week. Like, that's why when you saw her on.
Gideon
On.
Brian Johnson
On stage on. Space Monkeys is a show that Brian and I do that Walt's not a part of telling Steve. Dave without Walt becomes Space monkeys, and Brian is the guy that drives captain steering the ship type stuff. When I came onto the show, my job was, like you said, to be the audio guy. Purposely didn't talk much early on. And I think all these years later, like, I still kind of see myself as, like, my job is to pivot between the two of them and to knock them into some thing. Like, I've never been, like, a main engine driver on the show type thing.
Matt
Gotcha.
Brian Johnson
Like, you get to kind of watch these two go back and forth, which is great.
Brian Quinn
And decide who you want to jump in with.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, decide I want to jump in with. You know, that sort of tiebreaker. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, get him is just get him. He's a singular entity.
Jonna
Yeah.
Matt
Chaos agent.
Brian Quinn
Yes.
Brian Johnson
Is any of this helping? Is any of this.
Matt
Yeah, it is working. So, like, Space Monkeys, that's the show where, like, if Walt's not there and
Brian Johnson
it's me and Brian at Space Monkeys.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Originally it started as like topics that Walt wanted to steer clear of. Hot button topics. Okay. You and I would bring to our Space Monkeys podcast and talk about. Until Q got pussified and won't talk about Hot Topics anymore because he's too famous.
Jonna
When did you get pussified, Q?
Brian Johnson
It's about the time that the crew started relying on us for their jobs. And I was like, ah, I got a lot more responsibility than just I want to say on the show. So, yeah, I have to. I catch a lot of from for that.
Brian Quinn
I expect the next time you guys shoot, I want to see like an 8 by 10 of Q up. Right. Pussified on. Just tack it up somewhere. What's this?
Brian Johnson
That improv job that she's. That she loves is one of the jobs I'm protecting by.
Jonna
Not as soon as you said that, I was like, I do love my job.
Matt
Bad advice.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
So.
Brian Quinn
So, yeah, I mean, even. Even I don't wade into those waters anymore. People are just too willing to fucking try to put bring you down for any means necessary.
Matt
That's interesting. So one of. One of my friends did say space monkeys is when Brian and Q get sexy.
Brian Johnson
We have gotten sexy on it.
Matt
It's definitely like there was something to. Was a fair.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, it's. It's. It's not what it was like. Originally we were going to interview like drug addicts and prostitutes and stuff like that.
Brian Quinn
But yeah, it was going to be a travel. We were going to travel all over the place and have sponsors pay for it. We had big ideas.
Matt
Wow.
Brian Johnson
Big ideas. Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Materialized.
Matt
So is it scheduled or is it just like. If you're just like busy that day and they record, then.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matt
Do you have a show you do by yourself when?
Brian Quinn
No, on Patreon. Patreon.
Walt Flanagan
Patreon. A couple years.
Brian Quinn
Like the driving show. Like you steer that.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Not. No pun intended.
Gideon
Old timey radio album.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Matt
Is that generally the deal with Patreon? It's like you got like, tell them Steve Dave is what's in front of the paywall and then behind the paywall. Yeah, all of the other stuff.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. With some other people in the universe, you know, other. I don't call them characters, but other people who make up our family. You know, since Q is so busy, we rope in any number of different guests who. Who have appeared on this on the regular show and give them more opportunity to shine.
Jonna
Okay. The stuff you don't want John Q. Public to see.
Walt Flanagan
No, no.
Brian Quinn
I think he's even More definitely cleaner
Brian Johnson
than, like, they'll review, like, shows from the 60s. Yeah. It's all. It's like. It is just that place where it's. That's where, like, the. Tell the. The. The TSD town residents get to shine a little bit more.
Gideon
So you take an old. An old issue of TV Guide, just go through it.
Brian Quinn
On the surface, it doesn't sound good.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Gideon
A JCPenney catalog from 1962.
Brian Johnson
They'll just go through and discuss it. It's awesome.
Jonna
I'm unbelievably turned off for becoming a Patreon member.
Brian Johnson
You see that T right there, blocking T S, D and D? That's like, we'll play. Tell him we'll play. We'll play Dungeons and Dragons. We'll come up with a character.
Walt Flanagan
That show got canceled. Q.
Brian Johnson
Did it really?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
What happened?
Brian Johnson
I killed it.
Walt Flanagan
Well, we couldn't live up to your absence once you appeared on it. Everybody was like, well, now it sucks with that Q on it.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Because he was so psyched. You want to do it every time. Complain about.
Matt
So they wanted you off the main show, but they couldn't have that show without you.
Brian Johnson
You. Yeah, I really had fun on that one. Like, I came alive. I was. I was. I had a. An elf that I made when I played with my cousins in junior high school, and, you know, when I was really young, and I had an elf named Fister Mesh. That was my character back then when I was pre. Teen. Teen.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. I'm your boy. And I brought Fister Mesh back for. To play that. And I was so excited to take my friend out of the. Out of the case after decades and decades that it really shown. Shone through, and I took it seriously, and people liked it, but I just found out it was canceled. I was
Brian Quinn
maybe. A very special episode.
Walt Flanagan
Yes. The return of Fister Mesh.
Brian Johnson
Fister Mesh, Yes. I don't know where that came from. So, yeah, Patreon is where you get a lot of the. Like, Bride Tries is an awesome one where it's like, Bright Tries. Different hobbies. Stamp collecting.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Stamp collector. Last week, we did balloon animals.
Jonna
Okay. Has anything taken permanently? You know, you've tried a bunch of hobbies. Has one?
Brian Quinn
Not yet, no. Okay. I'm very hard to. To capture my interest.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
You know, so with any. One thing for any amount of time, Walt has likened me to a frog hopping around on lily pads. You know, but in fact, there was one where we were gonna check out serial killer stuff, and Walt's like, no, because then you'll have a hobby. The show will end. So we didn't do that.
Jonna
Good. Okay.
Brian Quinn
I'm about to do beekeeping.
Matt
Is that Overkill? Oh, sorry, no.
Brian Quinn
Overkill is. Is the supernatural paranormal show that we do once in a while. Every once in a while. There was a. There was a time when we did. I think it was 16 episodes. We did 16 episodes with Microsoft because Microsoft was paying people to do podcasts.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
So they gave us a bunch of money and they're like, just come up with a podcast for 16 episodes. And I think it was. I think it was you, Walt, that wanted to do the supernatural thing.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
So we did. Yeah. Overkill for 16 episodes. And then from there on, we do it every once in a while. Every once in a great while, I should say.
Gideon
That was where my first episode was, Wasn't it overkill, like, 09 or something?
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
And that was funny because that was early into the podcast, and we were like, what do we call this new show? And we're like, I forget who said it was like, well, people are going to get sick of us. It's going to be overkill.
Brian Quinn
I know who said it.
Brian Johnson
And it stuck. And that was probably 14 years ago that you said that. And we're still overkilling it. Yeah. So when an overkill comes, we're supposed to come in with, like, a supernatural topic and discuss.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
That's where we found. Father Lance was on an overkill. Right. We were talking about exorcism and stuff like that.
Walt Flanagan
I can't recall if he. He definitely emailed in regarding something supernatural.
Brian Johnson
Right.
Walt Flanagan
And when I. When I. Of course, my. My Joe hit the floor when he said that. He was a, you know, a real hard carrying exercise. Yeah. That's very rare, you know, that you can pull in a man of the cloth and talk about.
Brian Quinn
And he's not all stodgy and shit. He's a cool guy.
Brian Johnson
No, he's a great guy.
Gideon
So Father Lance came in about the Prussian kissing devil skull.
Walt Flanagan
That's right. Yes.
Gideon
Episode 325.
Brian Johnson
Okay.
Matt
Our friend Josh said specifically, who is much more helpful in prepping for this, and honestly, much better salesman of the show. But he said, ask about the kissing skull.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Brian Johnson
So that. It's actually here.
Brian Quinn
It's.
Brian Johnson
It's in the lobby out there, but that's it up there. So that was found. I found that in a market. It's a real human skull. And I brought it in. It's got, like, this copper face bottom, and it's this real carved human skull. And when we got it, we got a. We got a letter. An anonymous letter. We never know anonymous, who detailed the history of the skull. And it was this. It was like this skull has been missing for a long time. This was the Prussian kissing devil skull. And it was this cursed skull that we have. So the idea was to profit off of it. Yeah. So the idea is if you give the skull $5. What is it? $5? I think it's $5 if you don't. What was it? Get him. What was it?
Gideon
Well, you got to give it $5 and it will grant a wish.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, it'll grant a wish, but there's a way it could backfire on you somehow. I don't remember.
Jonna
Is that how you got the TV show?
Brian Johnson
That's how we got the TV show, yeah. Thinking of taking that $5 out now. It's never gonna end. The. Yeah, so that's it. He's out there. He's in a fish tank out there with five. And ants will come in and put five dollars.
Gideon
Grumpy's in the fish tank.
Brian Johnson
What's up?
Gideon
Crumpy's in the fish tank.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to Crumpy. Let's not confuse.
Matt
Let's get several entities in it.
Brian Johnson
Then I discovered this. This night fair where they sell all these cursed and haunted objects, and occasionally I'll buy something and bring it in. But the real one was. Was. Was a Prussian kissing devil skull. So that's out there. And people. Oh, that was it. People were accusing of us trying to make money off it. And we said we would donate the money, which we've yet to do, but we also haven't ever filled the tank, so we haven't had to. The money's just sitting there, but. Yeah, that's out there. That's a big part of the.
Matt
That's crazy. So somebody sent you an anonymous letter. You still don't. Just confirming that that was for real thing. That's like straight up, like Cthulhu stuff.
Brian Johnson
Yes. Yeah. And it had, like, dates, and it has the name of the guy who. Skull it is and stuff like that. It was like a pretty intense lore.
Jonna
That's. You're okay with this, Walt, just having this around?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
There's five bucks in the. The.
Matt
Is it Father Lance or. What was the priest's name?
Walt Flanagan
Father Lance.
Matt
Father Lance. Has he weighed in on the.
Walt Flanagan
He's called into question a lot of the authenticity of. Of the letter and the skull.
Matt
Okay.
Brian Johnson
It's a real. It's a real skull.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, but yeah. Father Lance is not ready to deem it a true supernatural artifact.
Gideon
He says he believed it was a Tibetan Kapala skull.
Matt
What? Yeah.
Jonna
Have you all put in $5 and put a wish in? Yeah. Yeah. And have the wishes come true?
Gideon
I'm still here.
Matt
Yeah. You wished a cigarette.
Brian Johnson
Around that time Brian met Mary Beth. He wished for love. He got it.
Jonna
And the monkey's paw twist was that you became part of Q's life. I guess.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, that was. That was the curse. But, you know, wow. Walt. You know, Walt never had a son and he put $5 in and get him. Is now basically his son. So in a way, this. The kissing skull. Oh, man.
Jonna
I'm putting money in.
Matt
I was, but now I don't know if I'm going.
Jonna
No, I'm gonna put in for both of us. I'll take yours as well.
Matt
God.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, it's pretty cool. The Prussian kissing devil skull.
Matt
That's so cool.
Brian Johnson
It's a great story too. Like, it's a cool. It's a cool legend.
Matt
I like. I'm not religious, but I. I went to CCD enough to be, like, freaked out about that.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, but it's not.
Gideon
Crumpy's evil.
Brian Johnson
Crumpy's evil. But again, okay, but there's.
Jonna
So there is an evil thing here.
Gideon
Yeah, it's not evil.
Brian Quinn
You felt it when you walked in, right?
Brian Johnson
Yeah. So cold.
Jonna
Felt a blast of cold air.
Gideon
That's what it was.
Jonna
Yeah.
Matt
I'm definitely. I'm definitely starting with your overkill episodes. This is definitely like, my shit. Although both my friends and like, like everything we saw, it was. The episode was Hay day.
Jonna
Making Hay.
Matt
Making hay. Making hay.
Brian Quinn
Told to ask about the first one. There's three of them.
Brian Johnson
It's a Making Hay trilogy.
Matt
They said, just ask about Making Hay. Which I know takes places at a flea market, which I also have a soft spot for. Flea market.
Brian Quinn
That was. That was our first outing, right?
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, that was our first.
Brian Johnson
Isn't that where we met G for the first time?
Walt Flanagan
So the first time. That's where he met Ginham. Ginham used to be a frequent.
Brian Quinn
You could just stop it. Freak.
Walt Flanagan
He would get up before sun up and make his way.
Gideon
Sometimes I wouldn't even go to sleep.
Walt Flanagan
Yes, he would stay awake so he could get to the Collingwood flea market early. And I've always been fascinated by flea markets. It's one of those things that I just don't know. I just marvel at the commitment and the optimism of people selling some of the things that you see on that
Brian Quinn
table versus the return.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, it's really like, it can just make you go, why? How can they do this at weekend after weekend selling faded out Matchbox cars?
Brian Quinn
Some people like one table, you're like, this is some awesome shit. Like, I would buy this. And then the next table is like, where the fuck did you get this from? And why did you bring it here?
Gideon
And some of them people, they go to Collingwood on Friday and they bought it at Columbus flea market on Thursday. And then from there they'll go to Englishtown market on Saturday. Wow.
Jonna
Just for the love of the flip,
Gideon
putting it on the table, some of them will. They'll sell up until the sun comes up and then disappear. Because when the sun comes up, when the guy comes out and starts collecting money, and so they'll just sell stuff and then just disappear before they have to pay for the table.
Matt
What were you waking up early to? Were you hunting for something?
Gideon
Oh, yeah, Zippo lighters, old razors.
Matt
Oh, really?
Walt Flanagan
Razors?
Brian Quinn
Yeah, old razors.
Gideon
Yeah, like double edge razors. Massive collection I found.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. I marvel at those people. And inspired by those people, though, because it's like they just do it and they keep coming weekend after weekend, putting out stuff that there's little hope of selling, packing it all up, going home and then coming back and doing it again. To me, that's.
Brian Quinn
I would say, I also marvel at them. I'm not inspired by them.
Brian Johnson
Inspired him not to be there.
Brian Quinn
Oh, my God.
Walt Flanagan
There's a certain level of discipline. And there it is.
Brian Quinn
There's his collection.
Walt Flanagan
Determination and just not willing to accept that, like, this might be garbage and it might be better to throw it away, but they just won't do it.
Gideon
I met a guy there once, he had a Zippo lighter. I wanted to it he. I wanted to pay 8 for it. He said, no, 10. And for five years, I saw that same lighter in the same display case at two different flea markets. And this guy was driving around and he would not go below $10.
Matt
Did you ever buy it?
Gideon
No, because he wouldn't go below $10.
Matt
And I understand you came into $2,000 at one point.
Gideon
Yeah, but I had a certain. There was a certain limit I would pay for individual.
Matt
It was. Yeah, pride. Yeah, I got you. Yeah.
Gideon
But this. But this guy's driving this thing around for. For hundreds, if not thousands of miles, this lighter, and he won't come down from $10. And he's probably spent that in gas driving it around.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. So these are the sort of conversations that you've been missing all these years, buddy. Yeah. So we went there and we interviewed some of the people that worked there. That's where we discovered Frank 2, the Dachau survivor. He was selling it.
Matt
And what was he selling?
Brian Johnson
Frank 1.
Brian Quinn
Frank. I can't remember. What was Frank 2 selling?
Walt Flanagan
He was selling like. Like when you. When a house. When someone dies in a house.
Matt
Like estate sale.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
He would buy like boxes of stuff like that. Like you know, a box full of aspirin. But the aspirins are open and maybe there's gauzes in there. But the box may be sealed, it may not be sealed. It's just stuff that was ever in someone's bathroom. They pull it into a tote and they bring it to the English town or Collingswood flea market and try to sell it for two or dollars or a dollar or whatever.
Brian Quinn
Non sterile gauze here.
Brian Johnson
So that was Megan.
Gideon
Hey.
Brian Johnson
And it was a. It was a huge. I mean it was like a five hour episode, right?
Gideon
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
It was long.
Brian Johnson
We did video, we shot pictures. And then years later we did make it in. Hey 2 where we went back to the flea market kind of after the rise. Like the.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. The attitudes were a lot different.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
From us and from the vendor. Like the first time we went there, we were bushy tailed and bright eyed. And then we went back and I guess some of the vendors had listened to the episode and weren't that happy
Brian Johnson
with the way that they were depicted. They were depicted.
Walt Flanagan
And plus not all of them. Not all of them. And you know, that, you know, Q was a lot busier. So if. And Bride was on drugs, so he didn't want to be there. So it was like kind of an. It was like an ugly episode. Like it was like the opposite of what the first one was. But then we brought it all back together. Making Hay three, we went back years later and it was like a triumphant return. Different vendors who are long gone or dead.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
And so it was a different vibe. And you know, we were happy to be there at that point and it was. Yeah. So we were determined not to sully it.
Brian Johnson
Right.
Walt Flanagan
But only three. Three part trilogy.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Squeeze all we can from the Making Hay trilogy.
Walt Flanagan
But it's interesting that like if you listen to 1 and then 2 and then 3, because it is a totally different vibe. It's much darker and like we're just.
Brian Quinn
I'm really nasty to Tina.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Really nasty to somebody.
Brian Johnson
Tina X was a woman that was in all of. All of them. She was there over the 10 years that we made this trilogy. And she was, she was good, she was sweet. The last time we saw her she was half time.
Brian Quinn
The second time she didn't give me the same. She give us the same reception. So I was really nasty to her. But then we won her back.
Brian Johnson
Oh we. That sounds on three. She was right in there.
Brian Quinn
She was right in there.
Brian Johnson
It was nice to get an update on her life and her mom and stuff like that. So those were kind of early cornerstone episodes that, that kind of, you know, because when we started podcasting, like nobody knew what a podcast was. I would, I remember telling Sal being. I'd be like, it's. He'd be like, but who's listening? And I'd be like, sal, it's a radio show on the Internet. And that was the best way I could put it because nobody. And they'd be like, what is the pod part coming? Like that's how on. So it was like, it was a. It was an early. Now I wager that people do making hey esque things all the, all the time now. But back when we first started doing this, it really was a unique thing that differentiated Tell them Steve Dave from other podcasts and like in that we just did stupid like that, you know. And even now like, you know, reading a TV guide from the 70s, you know, it's something too.
Brian Quinn
It.
Jonna
I. Oh, that's a real thing you do. Okay.
Brian Johnson
That's not a joke.
Matt
I thought how many years in are we.
Walt Flanagan
I mean like there's like the life stories are gone. So you look around, you're like, you know what, let's talk about 1970s television.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, like you'll find this out eventually, but your average 58 year old man doesn't do that much during the week. There's nothing to talk about.
Walt Flanagan
But we could talk about. Welcome back, Conor.
Brian Quinn
Oh yeah. Every episode.
Brian Johnson
Like it's Shakespeare.
Jonna
No, you guys are really. Honestly, you're very interesting. I'm like trying to figure out of the four of you who is the weirdest person at this table. You all keep one up.
Brian Quinn
I don't know.
Jonna
I don't know.
Brian Johnson
Between me and G. Yeah, I think, yeah, maybe.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, you have a lot of quirks, bro.
Jonna
I mean, but then you're fighting.
Walt Flanagan
What are my quirks though?
Brian Quinn
Super smeller.
Walt Flanagan
I don't know if that's just.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, that's just the way you treat.
Brian Johnson
He claims he has a super smeller nose and then he can smell anything because Brian brought a sandwich into the car once and it almost derailed. Their friendship.
Gideon
I brought pulled pork in, but I
Walt Flanagan
don't know if that's a personality trait, though, like being. My senses are just more enhanced than yours are. It's not my fault that it might. I have a superior sense of smell.
Brian Quinn
It isn't your fault. You're right. So I'll remove that one.
Matt
It's not that you have a superpower, it's what you do with it.
Brian Johnson
We were the first podcast to ever do an episode on vinyl record.
Matt
Oh, really?
Brian Johnson
Other people are trying to make that claim now, but they can't. We did it first.
Matt
What'd you put on vinyl? Or did you know you were doing the vinyl?
Brian Johnson
We did. We did a vinyl cast episode. We did one and two. We have a plan for three. But most things that sit in my corner to get things done. Yeah, there's a long time. I cook for a long time. So that's. That's the vinyl first. Vinyl cast. Walt did this amazing image of it that was like all these inside jokes from. Tell him, Steve Dave. And it's just. It's just gorgeous. And Giddum's on the COVID And you won't recognize him because this was. Get him when we first met him, when he was about half the size of the gidem we have now.
Walt Flanagan
And no beard.
Brian Johnson
And no beard. Yeah.
Jonna
But luckily you kept your teeth the same, so. So, yeah, I can tell that it's you.
Brian Quinn
And the shooting up is more something I would do than he would do.
Brian Johnson
He's injecting the podcast. Into his veins.
Brian Quinn
Flutter. Flutter is a guy. Sunday Jeff. Are you aware of Sunday?
Matt
I've heard of Sunday, yeah.
Brian Quinn
Sunday Jeff is a guy who used to go to the. Well, still. I mean, he used to go to the comic book store when it originally opened, and that's where we first met him. And then he started working at the store, and then, you know, he became a regular part of the show. And he's like the most straight. If you think Walt straight laced. Holy.
Matt
He eats two things only.
Brian Quinn
He might only eat two things.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, but that's all, like, inside jokes and like, kind of like. That's Ming Chen getting crucified. I forgot about that.
Gideon
With high heels.
Brian Johnson
With high heels on.
Brian Quinn
Foam face is something that we. That was created. So I. Q. Created it because we couldn't say retard anymore. So he brought. He said, we're going to call people foam faces.
Brian Johnson
No, that's. That's not correct. My point was that anything could be. Anything could be offensive if you're. If you're a bitch. I said. And I made up. I said I could call someone a foam face.
Jonna
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
I was like, it means nothing.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
And then everybody just took it to mean that it meant retarded. It just meant, like, anything. So we were like, look at this foam face over there. And eventually someone got offended by it. The truth came around. And then we did vinyl cast two years later. That was my 40th birthday, which is 10 years ago now. That was a roast that was way better than the first final cast. It's like. It's like it has a bunch of ants on it. And tell him to see downtown regulars on. And we just ripped into each other. It was. It was great.
Brian Quinn
It was fun.
Brian Johnson
That was really cool. That was a really good one.
Jonna
So that'd be one to check out if we want to.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. And we have an idea for three, which is final history is just funerals or wakes.
Brian Quinn
Funerals.
Brian Johnson
Eulogies, where we read eulogies for each other as if we had died. It's just another way to do a roast.
Matt
But.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, but we're.
Walt Flanagan
I think it's a horrible idea.
Brian Johnson
Why?
Brian Quinn
You don't like it now?
Gideon
You sound like Simi.
Brian Quinn
We're too close.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. Because people are actually leaving our town now. You know, we've lost some members, so I feel like this is so, so dicey to start.
Brian Quinn
Who's next?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, it's just. It's just not a good idea. It's just like poking a tiger.
Matt
Definitely don't give the skull$5 and ask for the eulogy episode to go well.
Walt Flanagan
No.
Jonna
Really?
Gideon
Well.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. Okay. What else we got? What. What other car?
Brian Quinn
Well, I mean, even something like. Like on that vest, if you look. Can you go back?
Matt
Those cuts were cool. Which, like, I honestly like showing up completely. I. I thought, like, oh, there's, like, some overlap. These guys are in, like, an actual motorcycle.
Brian Quinn
No, but, like, if you look at, like, the overkill sign beneath it is cash poor. That's something that Q used to complain about when he was still rich.
Brian Johnson
Rich.
Brian Quinn
But he was like, I'm rich in a house, but I'm cash poor. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
I don't have a ton of money.
Brian Quinn
You complain about it. Yeah. And so that's where that came from.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Cash poor. It's all invested in robots.
Brian Quinn
The rocker on the far hand right side says funerals. That was a game show that what Billy Eichner stole from us. Right. Where you pretend people were dead and then reveal them.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. We tell People. It was Walt's idea. Right. Like funerals, where it's like, you go up to people and, like, let's say you're a fan of. Of whatever. Who you're a fan of.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
That's still alive.
Walt Flanagan
I'd be like, you know, Brian Johnson, recon man, just passed away. You hear the news? Yeah, I'm doing a news coverage here. What's your thoughts on, you know, what you remember about Brian? And if he does. If he says, I don't remember, says something nasty, then he would pop around the corner.
Brian Quinn
Totally. Yeah. Siby was there when you were pitching it. Right. And then it was.
Brian Johnson
Pitch it the same.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. You know, Simi. Right. I'm sure. I'm sure.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
He. He came into the show one time.
Brian Johnson
He was on the show a few times, and.
Brian Quinn
And what? We were talking about it, and then suddenly, Billy Eichner has a show where he's revealing people like Seth Rogan.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Q has to remain.
Brian Johnson
I don't have to remain neutral at all. That company doesn't even exist anymore.
Brian Quinn
Q's bruise was a.
Brian Johnson
Was beer company.
Brian Quinn
The rest called the beer company company.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
We talked about it on the air before I actually opened and then closed the company. And these guys proposed logos for the company, like, Hugh Spruce for whites only. Like, stuff like that, you know? And I was like, no, not gonna work.
Matt
Foam heads only.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Stuff like that. Yeah.
Matt
Is there, like a. There's not a boy Scout aspect to these vests, is it? Just whatever patches people pick up or they have to have.
Brian Johnson
Those are all. Those are all references to the show in some way.
Brian Quinn
Not a bad idea, though. Like a merit badge. You have to earn it.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
You have to go do something special, and then we send you the patch.
Matt
There wasn't a queue.
Gideon
Write that down for Patreon.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Like going on a cruise. Mary Beth has made patches for the cruise every year.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Oh, yeah.
Jonna
I did notice that at Q West, a lot of the attendees were giving away stickers and magnets and bracelets. Like, it feels like that's a big part of the culture.
Matt
We have Darren Patch of. Or, like. Yeah. They just, like, handed me, like. It was like Mardi Gras, I guess.
Brian Johnson
Like a patch
Jonna
started.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Matt
That's why I, like, texted my friends. It was like, what am I looking at here? They were just jealous. They didn't give me any information.
Jonna
Speaking of cash poor, my friend Jesse, who's a listener, said that Q likes to talk about his taxes. So I wanted to give you an opportunity today.
Brian Johnson
I used to. I stopped because I caught so much shit. This is pre pandemic, the tax. That's how long ago. Okay. But you know, it's just talking about how high taxes are in New York.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
And. Oh, it's a bit now. It's. Now you can win the fucking being a mayor with it. But when I did was a problem where I was. Like I said the thing that pissed people off when I said, like, the government takes half of what I make. Full half of what I make. I said, if we lived in a zombie apocalypse and there was a warlord on Staten island and. And he came and said, half the crops you. You grow belong to me or I'll. Or I'll kill you. He would be the bad guy. He would be the bad guy. That's a bad guy. And like, for the government to come and say like, half of what you make comes to me or I'm putting you in jail. And then I just got such blow up in my face about it.
Brian Quinn
You're not wrong.
Brian Johnson
I'm not wrong. But like many things on this show, you can only say, say certain things before you get to what you. So I stopped complaining about taxes.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
Started complaining about the weather.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, a lot about the weather. But.
Matt
They come after you about that yet?
Brian Johnson
No, not yet. It was weird because it just seemed like people enjoyed paying taxes. Like suddenly, suddenly people are like calling me greedy for wanting to keep more of the money that I earned. Like the money that I made through my blood, sweat and tears. I was greedy for wanting to hold on to Matt.
Jonna
Think about the interstates, Q. Think about paving the.
Brian Johnson
I know there's all sorts of people that need to get free.
Matt
Is it just a coincidence Space monkey's time?
Walt Flanagan
I got an old TV guy I can break out right now, Wednesday night in 1977.
Brian Johnson
So I stopped talking about taxes quite a while ago because apparently people like paying taxes. They got no problem.
Jonna
Okay, hot button issue. I understand.
Brian Johnson
What about the fire department that was faithful to my taxes. That was, that was a big one. People would say to me and I'd be like, yeah. And I. So your house doesn't burn down? Well, you got a paycheck for taxes. Yeah, and I had to run into burning buildings to get it. Like, it was like, I know where
Brian Quinn
the clips for this week are coming.
Brian Johnson
I. This is a subset of people that listen to the show that are just unbearable. Not fun, bearable.
Brian Quinn
No.
Brian Johnson
Anyway, go ahead. Next question before I get myself in further.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, and you got a heart out in 12 minutes. Okay.
Jonna
I did notice. I really, I loved your little. Not little comment, but the comment about the optimism of flea markets. I actually, I've been thinking about. That's kind of a beautiful thing to say. Do we, do we expect more of that from you if we listen to the show? Do you have nuggets of wisdom to share generally every week?
Walt Flanagan
I would think so. I would think. I think those two are the. Are easily the more cynical and dour and are prone to go towards, I would say the,
Brian Johnson
I don't want to
Walt Flanagan
say negative side, but they're a bit more prone to complain about this, about things. And I feel like I'm. I could complain too, but I don't think that I do it as much as they kind of like feed off that kind of negative energy and that fuels each other and that they're kind of like a parasitic kind of relationship.
Brian Quinn
As recently as a couple weeks ago, we had a friend pass away that was a part of the show.
Jonna
I'm sorry.
Brian Quinn
And yeah, he was a great guy.
Brian Johnson
Great, great guy.
Brian Quinn
And one of the other guys got a tatt and memoriam and.
Walt Flanagan
Exactly it.
Brian Johnson
That.
Walt Flanagan
That's it. Yes. That is a perfect example of, of how bizarre and negative reaction could be to this.
Brian Quinn
So this guy that got the tattoo said the reason that he got it was because he didn't take time to get to know this dude. And it was sort of a reminder, like take time to get to know people because you know you might end up liking them. And me and Q were like, why the would you want to get to know most people? Most people are.
Brian Johnson
You don't have to say gay because
Brian Quinn
most people are idiots and assholes.
Brian Johnson
Phone faces.
Brian Quinn
And Walt immediately was like, you see, here's what I'm talking about.
Jonna
Okay,
Brian Quinn
what else you got, Matt, what
Matt
else do we have you mentioned, Sunday Jeff? I understand Dallas. Shave is.
Brian Johnson
I just told the guy who's coming to my house, the electrician, I'll be like, I probably won't be there till around six. I was like, we're rolling.
Matt
Had a guy at the question about dollar Shave. Yes, it's gonna take some.
Brian Johnson
Get a pull up picture of dollar Shave. Walt briefly became kind of obsessed isn't the right word, but let's just use it. Obsessed with 70s exploitation.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Well, Dollar Shave is a company that did ads for us.
Gideon
We go.
Walt Flanagan
They were called dollar Shave. And to me that sounded like a blaxploitation character. Dollar Shave. So I took the guy. My friend of mine called Jeff. Sunday Jeff. And I turned him into a honky version of a blaxploitation character called dollar
Brian Quinn
Shave, the palest funky brother you ever met.
Walt Flanagan
And this is before the world changed, though.
Gideon
Okay.
Jonna
Before the P. The great P. The
Walt Flanagan
great p of year 2019, I think.
Matt
Vaccinated. And now you can't say these trop.
Walt Flanagan
And so he hasn't really shown his face quite often, like, a lot since then here or there. But for the most part, he deals
Brian Johnson
in tropes a little bit. A little bit.
Matt
The magic. The gathering card.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. But that was just to create a fun commercial that the company all didn't really appreciate all that much as, like, he would wear Hawkins razors with a white blaxploitation character. They didn't appreciate that.
Brian Johnson
Just read that. They were like, just. You could just read what we tell you.
Walt Flanagan
I had to change the name so that, like, to keep the characters from dollar to dollar with a H. All right.
Brian Quinn
We don't like it.
Brian Johnson
Which made it seem worse. But we didn't have a choice.
Jonna
So they fixed it so I could
Walt Flanagan
keep the character, use it. So the dollar Shave Razor company couldn't say they owned him. I changed the name.
Jonna
That's like when my high school, we were the North Hills Indians with an Indian mascot. And to fix it, because that wasn't okay. They kept the mascot logo, but they became North Hills Big Red. So that fixed it. Everything's good now.
Matt
That guy's name is Big Red.
Brian Quinn
You're that young that. That was coming out when you were in school.
Jonna
It happened after I was in school.
Brian Quinn
Oh, after.
Jonna
Yeah, it happened years after.
Matt
My high school is also the Indians and went through that. There's like, a thing, I think, because, like, the Redskins were getting some crap.
Jonna
Yeah. I think it was around that time. They're like, we're going to fix it countrywide.
Brian Quinn
Meanwhile, every Indian in the country is like, we like it. What are you gonna do?
Brian Johnson
So this is a dollar Shave anime. We have cartoons. Like, we have listeners who make, like, cartoons and just send them in and stuff like that.
Brian Quinn
Not this one, though.
Matt
Yeah.
Jonna
And it's a cartoon porno is what I'm watching.
Brian Quinn
You would think so.
Brian Johnson
Okay, that's Ming Chen. There's Dollar Shave.
Matt
Right on.
Brian Johnson
So he's probably. He falls under the Sunday Jeff.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah. But he's kind of like Pepe Le Pew has kind of been walked back a little. Yeah. You don't see him a lot in the Warner Brothers.
Jonna
Has he been walked back? Really?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, he was. He took advantage. Was always about trying to kiss that
Jonna
cat girl felines, I guess, under false pretenses. Right.
Walt Flanagan
Always running up to them and kissing their arm against. Against their wishes. And Speedy Gonzalez is back, though.
Brian Johnson
Warner Brothers is making a Speedy Gonzalez movie.
Walt Flanagan
Okay, that means there's hope for Dollar Shave.
Jonna
Then there is even more hope for Pepe.
Gideon
I mean, what about Slowpoke Rodriguez?
Brian Johnson
I hope he's in it.
Gideon
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, I would hope he's in it, but it's a. Fluffy is doing the voice of him.
Gideon
Oh, okay, Tommy. Okay.
Brian Quinn
Who the hell is Fluffy? I never heard of this person.
Gideon
Domino Domi. Damian Glacier. What's his name?
Brian Quinn
Julio Iglesias's son.
Brian Johnson
No, Gabriel.
Brian Quinn
Gabriel Iglesias. Oh, this guy.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Oh, okay.
Brian Johnson
He's doing the voice for Speedy Gonzalez also. One of the nicest guys in the industry.
Matt
Oh, right on.
Brian Johnson
Just a total sweetheart.
Jonna
I watched him on Last Comic Standing. I think he was.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Any. Yeah, so. So that's. So Sunday Jeff is his own sub. Everything Sunday Jeff does is magic.
Matt
And.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. I can't help it.
Brian Johnson
You can't have it. People love him. Everything he says.
Gideon
He. He lives in a state of childlike wonder.
Brian Quinn
Well, he kind of was voted, like, the most loved personality in TESD town.
Brian Johnson
Right.
Brian Quinn
He's the most beloved out of anybody.
Walt Flanagan
More so than any of the major hosts.
Brian Quinn
Oh, definitely.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Matt
The fans have made rankings.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. But it doesn't hurt our feelings because it's hard to disagree. Everything he does is kind of magic. That's him dressed on the top of the rock and roll. Right. That's Sunday Jeff.
Matt
Oh, right on.
Brian Johnson
And then here's him dressing the TESD adventures as, like, a peacock. I don't know if you can see.
Gideon
Riddled with syphilis.
Matt
Yeah.
Gideon
He was his character.
Brian Quinn
His character.
Gideon
Sunday Silver Tongue.
Matt
Are we missing any other, like, characters in the stable that haven't come up yet? Like. Like, we've met Ming Chen.
Brian Johnson
Like, we know Ming Chen.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
I'm trying to think who else. I'm trying to think who we would have.
Walt Flanagan
Brian Michelle.
Brian Quinn
Oh, Nichelle. That's right.
Gideon
They do a show called Tales from Behind the Fake Counter where they rewatch comic book movies.
Brian Johnson
Men.
Gideon
And talk about the.
Brian Johnson
He was a producer of showrunner on Comic Book Man.
Matt
Right on.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Great guy.
Brian Johnson
Great guy. He shows up all the time. And Patreon, you see him fairly often.
Brian Quinn
And then we have guys like. We have a guy like Tom Milachowski. We're not really sure what his last name is, but he's like, he's. He's on screen but he's also. He does game shows and he writes stuff for the Sunday Jeff show and all new Sunday Jeff Show.
Brian Johnson
We do a Christmas episode every year. That's usually a charity thing. That's a big. That's a big deal. Yeah, Walt starts panicking about that right around now. Right around now is when he starts worrying about the Christmas episode.
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Matt
Oh, wow. Okay.
Jonna
What, do you have a specific charity you go to?
Brian Johnson
No, it's usually the listeners.
Walt Flanagan
We usually do it for a family, not like, not a big organ. I don't want to say not to poo poo on a big organization, you know, but this way it feels like we're really impacting somebody, you know who. You could see it.
Jonna
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
You know, and that's what we usually do every year.
Gideon
Well, we once raised $5,000 for orphans and they accepted the check and then nothing.
Brian Quinn
Most unappreciative orphans.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, we actually went up to the letters.
Jonna
You went to the orphanage?
Walt Flanagan
We went to the orphanage, gave them a church at Santa Claus, and we never heard from them ever again. But they cashed a check though.
Brian Quinn
No, I read Oliver Twist. I thought all orphans were like. Yeah, super appreciative. Like even they take a beating. Thank you, sir. May I have another? Like that kind of thing.
Brian Johnson
Okay.
Jonna
Did you bring up Oliver Twist to the orphans? That might be a source up there?
Gideon
We weren't allowed to meet them.
Jonna
Okay.
Gideon
So we were. We toured an empty facility and we were told the orphans were someplace else.
Jonna
Okay. So something off putting happened here.
Walt Flanagan
Orphanages in New Jersey too, in 2016. Whenever we did it, it was hard to find an orphanage still running. And then when we got up there, we could only meet 18 year old orphans.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Quinn
We got beaten up.
Jonna
I think there's more to the story.
Walt Flanagan
Right. We can only meet the ones who are like right on the cusp of turning 18.
Brian Quinn
It seems like maybe out of the
Matt
orphanage, maybe you wanted. When you contacted them, the first thing they did was check the Reddit.
Brian Quinn
Don't ever go.
Brian Johnson
Don't go. I would not go on the Reddit if I were you. It only takes away from the show.
Jonna
I have a question. In most workplaces, when there are two Brian's, one person is like Brian J and the other person is Brian Q. But I see that you just got to be Brian and you had to take a different name.
Brian Johnson
Most people call me Q.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
All right. Yeah.
Jonna
Okay, so it wasn't a power play.
Brian Johnson
No.
Brian Quinn
Because like Q sounds better than BJ, right?
Jonna
Oh, yeah, yeah. And BJ's pretty fun, though. You could run with that.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. As a child, it was great. I loved it.
Walt Flanagan
Sure. Well, what do you call Q on set?
Jonna
Q? Yeah.
Brian Johnson
That's pretty universal. That started in the firehouse. Nobody really called me Q before that. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
I thought we started from day one of tsd.
Brian Johnson
I was in the firehouse. I was in the fire department.
Walt Flanagan
I don't think I've ever called.
Brian Quinn
We used to call you bq. Like, when we worked at the office, it was bq.
Brian Johnson
BQ is a lot, right?
Brian Quinn
Yeah.
Jonna
He's BQ in our notes.
Walt Flanagan
I don't think I've ever. I don't think I've ever addressed you as Brian.
Brian Johnson
Nobody does ever. My mom doesn't even call me Brian. Nobody calls me Brian. I like it. I wish more people would. But why'd you get legally changed?
Gideon
The Q? Q?
Brian Johnson
What's. What would be the point?
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Like Madonna, Roseanne. Just like. Just go by Q. It's like that's on your license.
Walt Flanagan
And you don't think they get picked up by the. By the.
Brian Johnson
No, the news. No, I don't. I wouldn't want. I wouldn't want it anyway. Yeah.
Jonna
It feels like a midlife crisis thing if it gets picked up by the news. Changed his name. Just. He's just Q now.
Walt Flanagan
Prince did it. It was a big deal.
Brian Quinn
Go buy a symbol.
Brian Johnson
Sure. Yeah. I'm all right. It sounds like.
Gideon
Oh, yeah.
Walt Flanagan
If you say you're changing it to
Brian Johnson
a symbol and it's just a Q. Yeah. Right. I'll get Helen on it.
Walt Flanagan
You're going to have to. At the interview, asking. So what would you like to be called based upon this symbol?
Brian Johnson
Yeah. Q. Yes.
Brian Quinn
What do you think?
Brian Johnson
What's matter with you? What are your phone face.
Walt Flanagan
Cnn.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Fox, tmz.
Brian Johnson
They'd all pick it up. None of them care.
Walt Flanagan
They wouldn't care. Okay.
Brian Quinn
Toasty Twitter, maybe pick it up.
Brian Johnson
I'll try it.
Jonna
Another question. If you ever have any celebrity guests, who's the biggest one you've ever had? And do you think you could get a beetle? Do you think you could get a living beetle on the show?
Brian Quinn
No, I don't think we could get. What's that? Fake Beetle. Beetle Mania. I don't think we could get one of them.
Jonna
Okay. Okay.
Gideon
Beatles fan.
Jonna
No, it's just the biggest name I could think of. Like the Beatles.
Walt Flanagan
You know, we have found, or I have found, that our listener base vehemently is opposed to us bringing on guests. Celebrities.
Brian Quinn
Good luck.
Gideon
I find they want guests, but then they're not happy with the guests.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Jonna
I will not look at the Reddit.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. Stay away.
Brian Quinn
Are you familiar with Little House on the Prairie?
Jonna
Yeah. Huh.
Brian Quinn
So we had Nellie come on.
Jonna
Yeah. Which I thought Nelly.
Brian Quinn
Great. I thought she was awesome.
Brian Johnson
I read the Bitch of the Planes.
Brian Quinn
Yes, exactly. I read her book. I did all kinds of research. We had her on panned. Universally, people did not like. I loved it.
Jonna
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
I thought it was great. People universally, like, disliked it.
Gideon
That Svengoolie.
Walt Flanagan
We landed the biggest name in. In Halloween that you can get for, like, to do a special Halloween podcast fangirl. Landed him twice.
Jonna
Wow.
Walt Flanagan
And the response was just, you know, they. They don't want guests.
Gideon
I don't know why.
Jonna
Tough to hear at the end of the year.
Walt Flanagan
Like, we have never tried. I would be interested in doing that, but it seems like the. The listener base is against it. They just want.
Gideon
Well, currently, they want either Brooke Shields or Danhausen right now.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah, they do.
Brian Johnson
Danhausen.
Matt
And this is adding up. Our friend Jesse was definitely like, if it. If it's clean there, it's not for you. It's for Brooke Shields.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. Because I was saying, like, I can't bring guests in here. Like, I can't bring Brooke Shields in here.
Matt
You gotta tidy up.
Brian Johnson
You gotta tidy up. Get him. Did not want to tidy up. He's got hoarding issues. His brain doesn't work like it should.
Walt Flanagan
He's actually a certifiable genius, though.
Brian Quinn
Wow.
Walt Flanagan
You didn't tell.
Jonna
You didn't tell me that.
Matt
And when we were a member of Mensa, you.
Brian Johnson
No, he could be, though.
Walt Flanagan
He could run the place.
Jonna
So do you assess people when you see them? Just instantly are you like. You're kind of like, did you read my iq? Like, people can read auras?
Gideon
No, no, no, no, no, no. I'd like to give everybody a chance.
Jonna
Okay.
Gideon
Let them stick your foot in their mouth.
Brian Quinn
Stephen Hawking over.
Brian Johnson
Well. Well, you.
Walt Flanagan
You didn't tell them your IQ number.
Gideon
It's. It's 148.
Jonna
Okay. I don't know. What if that's big?
Walt Flanagan
That's. That's like Einstein.
Matt
Whoa.
Gideon
Not verified.
Walt Flanagan
Einstein looks down on him, but not many others. Look, you know, everybody else is looking up. I get him, though.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Gideon
Wow.
Brian Johnson
He's an unverified number. But we did go look at his files from when he was a child.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
And some teen psychiatrist or whatever wrote that he had a very high iq.
Jonna
So is that what you're basing this on? On it?
Brian Quinn
Actually, no. It was measured on those papers at 144.
Gideon
Yeah, 140.
Brian Quinn
144. And then you did it again. You said.
Gideon
Yeah.
Jonna
Is it hard to just walk amongst,
Matt
you know, the plebs?
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Jonna
Mortals like us.
Gideon
No.
Jonna
No. Okay.
Brian Johnson
I mean, it's hard for them.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, yeah.
Brian Johnson
It's easy.
Gideon
Forget them stuff to explain yourself, you know, it's. It's like, you know, explaining something to a bird. It's.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Gideon
You have to be understanding.
Walt Flanagan
We're all parakeets.
Brian Quinn
I admire your plumage.
Matt
Have the three of you, like, noticed, like, the. Like. Does he do anything where you're like, oh, that's the IQ revealing itself?
Brian Johnson
No, not in my estimation.
Brian Quinn
He's handy. He's really handy. He can figure out how to do stuff.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
We did a $6 million man. We did an episode where we recreated the Bigfoot episode. And in the episode, his arm gets torn off and all these sparks come in.
Jonna
Out.
Brian Quinn
So I played Bigfoot and G somehow rigged it up. I'm not sure exactly how, but it looked great.
Gideon
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, it looked amazing.
Matt
Just like a catch all kind of. If a problem comes up, go, go to get him. You gotta. Right on.
Jonna
Okay.
Walt Flanagan
I mean, it's not penicillin. It was. But it was a Roman candle.
Jonna
Okay.
Matt
He stuck a Roman candle in a hoodie and like.
Gideon
No, it was a. I developed a plate with a sparking device in it,
Brian Quinn
so I didn't catch on fire.
Brian Johnson
Okay.
Jonna
Not every invention can be penicillin. We need bread, too. That was a great one.
Brian Johnson
It wasn't bread either.
Gideon
Some Velcro strips so that the arm could be ripped off, like. Yes.
Matt
Right on.
Brian Quinn
Wow.
Walt Flanagan
And tell them about the. The rubber band on the. On the hangers at the Stash.
Gideon
So we have. Well, when I worked at the Stash, we had these displays that, like the. They're a bar with, like, little balls on it. And you hang hangers and shirts on them Off.
Matt
Yeah, yeah.
Gideon
And the problem is, is that when you go for a back one and pull it forward, it knocks the other ones off. So I just took a rubber band, strung it between the balls, and now you could pull a shirt off and not knock the other shirts off.
Brian Johnson
So they get love shields.
Brian Quinn
Wow.
Jonna
Okay. That's what it looks like.
Brian Quinn
That's what it reveals.
Gideon
The French cleat that holds the poker table up on the wall.
Brian Johnson
Yep. That's our original recording table from the. From the secret stash he came up with the cleaton.
Walt Flanagan
He called it a French cleat.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Jonna
Okay. But you came up with A hook. Basically, you invented a kind of hook.
Gideon
It's. I took a French cleat, which is what it's called, and.
Walt Flanagan
Oh, okay. I thought that was your invention. No, no, no cleat that you invented.
Gideon
No, I figured. I figured out the. The way to mount it was a French cleat. There was a bunch of other ways
Brian Johnson
museums use it, so it's a high. It's a high quality.
Gideon
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Hanging.
Gideon
It only gets stronger the more weights on it.
Brian Johnson
Oh, science. Yeah.
Jonna
That's a fancy cleat.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Protesters have come in and tried to throw red paint on that.
Walt Flanagan
You can hang off that. No way.
Jonna
It could support 99 pounds.
Gideon
Yeah. It's into five different studs, so two times.
Brian Johnson
So there you go.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
You want to know more?
Brian Johnson
Damn.
Walt Flanagan
No,
Matt
I got one more random lore question. So Declan is a sound guy of yours, and I guess he. He's noisy.
Brian Quinn
He's Irish. Well. Cuz he's got bad knees.
Matt
That comes from his knees.
Brian Quinn
That's where like.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, you hear comes from.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. That's him trying to walk from one side of the room to the other.
Matt
Yeah. It's like audible to other people.
Brian Johnson
Oh, Migos.
Brian Quinn
It hurts. Gosh.
Walt Flanagan
And me
Gideon
trying to get to the computer.
Brian Johnson
He does the mastering for the episodes.
Brian Quinn
He masters everything. He mixes everything and masters. And then he sends the. I edit it and then send it back onto him.
Jonna
2 Iron Ireland. Where he.
Brian Quinn
To Ireland. Yeah. He's so happy because he just got civilized Internet. So he's like. It took me three seconds to upload it, two seconds to download it. Yep.
Jonna
Okay. So the clicking doesn't make it on the show as much anymore, I assume, coming from Ireland.
Brian Quinn
We haven't brought up Declan in some
Brian Johnson
time, I don't think.
Jonna
Yeah, well, we went. We were. We were talking to a fan who was a Day one listener.
Brian Johnson
Yes.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Jonna
You know, we went.
Brian Quinn
And I think Declan was too. I think Declan was a Day one listener.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Wow.
Brian Quinn
Because he jumped in, like, around episode 10, I think, somewhere in there, very early.
Matt
Early what brought people in originally? Was it like the. The Tell Them Steve day? Like, they came from, like, mall Rats and the Kevin Smith stuff.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, I think. Yeah. The original audience. The. The first listeners came from Kevin's audience.
Gideon
Yeah. That's what brought me there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then Smodcast kind of became the same thing over and over again, and that's it.
Brian Quinn
Talk some shit.
Gideon
Just telling you, I'm not. Not putting anybody down. Not violating an nd.
Matt
But this genius's opinion, it was This.
Gideon
I found this to be more enjoyable. And then there was the giant hiatus after Zach and Miri.
Brian Quinn
All right.
Gideon
Yeah. So it's like, I need podcasts, and these guys are putting out podcasts. So it. I swerved over to their side and. And it just became more enjoyable to listen to.
Matt
Is there. Are there any other avenues that, you know, people come in from? Like, are there jokers? People that.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, there's. There's a bunch, because I would wear. I still wear it to this day. Like, tell them Steve Jobs, Dave Gear on the show constantly. Yeah. And that. That leads people to.
Matt
They check it out.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. Curious.
Walt Flanagan
I do think, though, you know, like you said, though, it is daunting to gain a new listener because of the thousands and thousands of hours of audio that people feel they need to listen to to understand what's going on, though. So we're kind of that catch 2020.
Brian Quinn
Yeah, we make a. We make a lot of. We reference older episodes and older stuff a lot, and we don't bother to stop and explain it. Cause you just assume everybody listening is on. You know, they're with the program and they know, which is not a good assumption.
Jonna
But I mean, that. That all changes today.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Right.
Jonna
This is episode zero.
Brian Quinn
We're starting fresh.
Matt
My advice to potential listeners is, like, get invited on the show. I've not personally explain it to you.
Brian Johnson
There are, like, back in the comic book store day, like. Like, ants would get on because they would just come into the store to shop and. What are you doing?
Brian Quinn
Come here, Russ.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, we'd be like, get over here. Like, sit down. And we. We'd throw people on the mic all the time, but it doesn't really happen anymore. We don't really get that sort of foot drive.
Matt
No.
Brian Quinn
People don't walk in here.
Jonna
Yeah. Hard to find little.
Matt
Yeah.
Jonna
You know, up. You have to go up some stairs.
Matt
Did they talk about comic book. Were they there to, like, was that an obvious.
Brian Quinn
Well, we would just be, like, if we would see somebody that would catch our interest, like, hey, sit down for a second. Like, this guy. English Russell Us. We talked to him for a while, and it turned out he was getting married. And then we followed the whole marriage, you know, like, you know, so.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, I missed that stream of people. Yeah, like, one there.
Brian Quinn
Just the randos, like, would come in and talk.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, it was fun. But maybe we could set up a
Gideon
table out on the walkway by the dmv.
Jonna
Already having a great day. We'll make it better.
Matt
Yeah. I think most of my questions have Been answered. I had, like, one like, is more like, gotcha. If you pretend. Yeah, gotcha. I really want to know.
Brian Johnson
Here's some quotes that you've said over the years. If I get an answer for them,
Matt
I know precisely why. It's only 13% play back. This audio is like. So if, like, Tom, Steve, Dave is like a book on a shelf, like, what other books are around it? Like, and I guess maybe I answered this question myself. Like, there's some smog cast stuff, but like, you know what, what genre would you put yourselves in?
Brian Johnson
Or like, I don't know.
Walt Flanagan
I don't know. I think it's. It's a weird podcast because I think other than Q, there are no people involved who are comedians or, or, or, or have even interests in becoming comedians. It's really like a blue collar, normal people who just kind of got scooped up and have been around now for over a decade. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how else to describe it.
Brian Quinn
It's odd when people are like, what's it about? I never know
Walt Flanagan
a. Yeah, like a professional comedian. Like, Like a lot of podcasts today are. And all the big ones are by professional comedians.
Brian Johnson
Well, podcasts seem to have become things that are mainly about promoting and, and getting a name out. Self promotion. That's why so many comedians do it. They don't want to do podcasts. They just want to sell tickets. Like, we, since we started so early and kind of like, we were free to just do whatever the fuck we wanted without any concerns about what a podcast should be or. Or there was no right way to do it. There was no wrong way to do it because nobody was doing it.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Like, your only real context was Kevin.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, Kevin, Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Like, you watch him be like, okay, I guess this is how you do. Because in the first couple episodes, maybe the first, like seven or eight episodes, like, Kevin always used to put this music bed underneath his podcast. So I was like, well, I guess that's how you do it. So that's what I did. And it took fucking forever to get like. To get like, we're talking about a topic. I'm like, okay, what song would resonate with this topic? So I would. To like, like, have to find it and put it underneath. Then eventually people are like, we don't like the music. So I was like, good.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. I was happy. They didn't like the music no more. Sitting there putting it in.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Gideon
There's not a lot of structure to the show, really.
Brian Quinn
No.
Gideon
And like, the topics can Be so varying from week to week. Like, you know, one week. It's that time your daughter went missing.
Walt Flanagan
Thank you.
Brian Quinn
But like, thanks for bringing that up.
Gideon
Well, I'm just saying is that's like a whole new entire episode. Could be.
Brian Johnson
We found her.
Gideon
Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
She's been found. Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Gideon
But like it's like a deep emotional.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Gideon
Like you're very involved. And then the next week's celebrity. But like.
Jonna
But bluechew is always involved.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Jonna
Okay.
Brian Johnson
We've done episodes where we started them and we were just so depressed that like 10 minutes into it, it was like it it. And we've just put out a 10 minute episode.
Walt Flanagan
Wow.
Brian Johnson
Because we just like this fucking. Anybody want to do this today?
Brian Quinn
Energy wasn't right. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
And we just released it as an episode, so. And I don't know that anybody would do that today. People were annoyed at that one. They were like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, we. We were lucky in that we got to cut it. Kind of created on our own terms without a real goal in mind or. Or blueprint in mind. So it's this kind of real hodgepodge weird thing. But I don't know that it's would be that inaccessible because once you meet Sunday Jeff once and fall in love with him, then it's not intimidating. Dollar shave Then it's not intimidating. Like whatever the fucking nonsense he's doing in the peacock outfit. You were like, I can't wait. It's like, well, there's a whole treasure trove of Sunday Jeff acting. Yeah, like Sunday Jeff. You know what I mean? Like, it's not that deep. One time Sunday Jeff and I went to a Kiss concert. We had the best time. And these guys were so jealous.
Brian Quinn
They were so mar a mention of it to us.
Brian Johnson
Oh, we were.
Jonna
We had that time was offered. Okay.
Brian Johnson
No, it's just me and Sunday Jeff enjoying Kiss and rocking out. It was the best. It was the best. He gets it. So it's like there's all sorts of like little things here and there, but I wouldn't say the show is really inaccessible. There he is this Sunday Jeff. Oh, is that at the kids concert? Yes, yes. Chris was the.
Jonna
But then you brought it up on the podcast after to.
Brian Johnson
Oh, I couldn't wait to wait.
Walt Flanagan
Rub it in our faces.
Matt
That's kind of beautiful.
Brian Quinn
I'm out here selling drugs. Oh, Cue is just before the gate
Brian Johnson
started moving in and fixing the place up. Who does this?
Gideon
This is the Wikipedia who run.
Brian Johnson
Who does this one that I'm not.
Gideon
I think it's gets contributed by a bunch of people.
Matt
So this is a different Wikipedia. Oh, this is the tele. Steve Dave Wiki.
Gideon
Yeah.
Matt
Which is why the wiki wiki is.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, they're.
Matt
They're putting all this stuff here.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. So there's all. Yeah, that's pretty cool that people do that.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. I love.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Brian Quinn
I love that somebody likes it enough that they take the time to go and do stuff like that.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. But yeah, so I mean, that's. That's kind of. Do you think you'll. Do you think you'll be. You have enough to start listening now? How do you feel?
Matt
I think I do. Yeah.
Brian Johnson
I mean, you have a direct line. It's a little unfair because you can just ask question anytime, anytime you want.
Jonna
Have we pleased you, Matt?
Matt
Yeah. My way in is definitely like, oh, I went to this like, festival with what, only 200 tickets? Yeah, you know, like, so, you know, that was a good leg up for sure. But yeah, no, like, the body of work is like extensive. At any time you see something you're interested, like, imagine somebody who's just like, I think I might like Dungeons and Dragons. And then they see the bookshelf with all the.
Brian Quinn
Right.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Manuals and everything. And it's just like, just like that. Those punches to just like, just jump in. Like, that's what I'm. That's definitely what I'm picking up from this conversation. What I hope other people might.
Brian Quinn
All are welcome. Like Poltergeist. All are welcome.
Jonna
Yeah. A little off putting to whisper. All are welcome into the mic and
Gideon
the feed is separated. So like the first 300 episodes are on their own feed, then in subsequent episodes. So, like, you can just start there.
Matt
Right on. Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
I love what you guys just said to like. It sounds like nobody puts on a mask whenever they record. It's like whatever.
Brian Johnson
You're finding a mask funny sometimes.
Gideon
Well, these are the little Master Rock Night podcast every day.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
But there's no like clock you're punching in and then you behave a certain way whenever you hit record.
Brian Johnson
No, not really. I think so.
Matt
Got to be the drawing in of itself.
Brian Johnson
Look at that line. Sunday Jeff rocks out doing air guitar and high fiving Q whenever a new song starts. This is the Kiss concert. Walt keeps trying to raid on Quinn's parade by telling him the band is actually lip synchronized. I remember that. You really were like, you didn't see Kiss before you saw them lip sync.
Jonna
I like how earlier this episode Walt was like, so I'm sort of the optimist of the group. So there isn't one is what I'm hearing.
Brian Quinn
So here's Walt emasculates Brian when he hears. Overhears him asking Mary Beth to go get him.
Brian Johnson
Ominous.
Brian Quinn
We still talk about that. She brings it up every once in a while.
Matt
So I was like, I was a little paranoid, right? Because like these two friends of mine, like one of them I've known literally since he was born so like 38 years. The other since high school, they've never mentioned this show once. So like the fact that like I know them both so well and then I went to this festival and J has this connection and then they just like revealed they were fans. I was like, am I surrounded by fans? Could like anyone. So I started wearing like the Q West hat hat just to see if somebody be like would reveal themselves as a listener work. Not yet.
Brian Johnson
Smart looking hat though.
Matt
I was curious though. Is there like, is there like a, like a code word or. Yeah. For a square deal, if. Oh, really?
Brian Johnson
Yeah. See Ant thing. I'd be on stage like when back in the touring they say there's me doing it on stage. Ants would do it to me from the audience and I do it back to them.
Matt
This doesn't seem like a discreet thing in a grocery store.
Brian Johnson
No,
Brian Quinn
it came from Q and I were doing. Q was doing shows and I was doing cons and we both got sick from just like shaking hands. Like really sick. Yeah, we're like, how do we like. I don't want to shake people's hands anymore, man. So we started doing the fist bump, but then we came up with that. The. The antennas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Say hi to people.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
And if people aren't in Ant, they don't know what the you're doing.
Matt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jonna
Not subtle.
Brian Johnson
No.
Jonna
This is not a secret society.
Matt
This is playing into my desire to be in a secret society.
Brian Johnson
Well, it's definitely a low key society almost.
Gideon
In a secret society, you got asked to join the Illuminati.
Jonna
You turned them down.
Walt Flanagan
I turned them down. I was going to join. What was the one that.
Gideon
Masons.
Walt Flanagan
The Masons. And. But I, I was told by Father Lance actually steered me not to join the Masons. The Freemasons.
Brian Quinn
Satanic. What was that?
Walt Flanagan
Well, he just said that it's, you know, it's. It's not good. It's not for a good Catholic boy.
Brian Quinn
Okay. And that's what you are.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Jonna
What are they doing in there?
Brian Quinn
I don't know. Makes me want to join them.
Matt
Yeah. See I think you're the one person
Jonna
in the world that's like, oh, not for a good Catholic boy.
Brian Johnson
Well, I think like what, you know, what I would like from you guys is if you did start listening a little bit. Like, we gave it like six months. Okay, Johnny, you get enough of me. You don't, you don't have to.
Jonna
I do have a new two hour commute, right?
Brian Johnson
That's true. Yeah.
Jonna
To my workplace.
Brian Johnson
You know, we didn't know if we were coming back for another season, so Johnna went ahead and moved down to Philly.
Jonna
Moved away.
Brian Quinn
I mean, look, I don't know if
Matt
you know about these taxes in New York City.
Brian Johnson
Oh, I know. I love paying. I think it's great.
Jonna
So anyway, I have the time, but. But it sounds like you send more in, don't you?
Walt Flanagan
Q?
Brian Johnson
No.
Walt Flanagan
Than you have to.
Brian Johnson
What's up?
Walt Flanagan
Don't you send more in than you have to?
Brian Johnson
I do. Yeah, of course. By the way, that's what everybody should do. Because if you love fucking paying taxes so much and I'm a fucking asshole for not wanting to pay them, I remind you that all these billionaires and all these celebrities can volunteer anything they want to the government because the government
Gideon
only has our best interests in mind.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, they could pay as any tax rate they want. So go ahead and pay any tax rate you want. See what happens. I get excited. So like if you guys want to give it like a preset of time and then come back with a review and maybe further questions, like 0.0 would be the episode
Gideon
first 2025.
Brian Johnson
No, I mean I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to guide their journey, take it however they want.
Gideon
But I think. What do you mean? What do you think would be more manageable for. Well, okay, yeah, let them decide.
Brian Johnson
I'm always like, just jump in and then just, just go from there and.
Gideon
No, I'm saying like when, when do you think that they should come back?
Brian Johnson
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Gideon
Like the first 25. The first.
Brian Johnson
No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. I don't think he should go in order. I think. I don't want to. I don't want to say he has to do it a certain way.
Gideon
Gotcha, gotcha.
Brian Johnson
However you do it in like in like around, maybe around the Chris before the Christmas episode, come back and give a review and then follow up questions.
Matt
Yeah, we'd love.
Gideon
And if you have any ideas for a good Christmas episode. Yeah, multly glad to hear that.
Walt Flanagan
In need. Sure.
Jonna
Well, bigger is always better.
Walt Flanagan
Walt for.
Matt
We found some orphans Philly that'll actually be grateful.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Brian Johnson
There you go.
Gideon
Fifteen people in last year.
Walt Flanagan
Yeah.
Jonna
Wow.
Matt
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
It was a massive.
Gideon
Yeah.
Walt Flanagan
Christmas episode.
Matt
Hit the whole family and probably going
Walt Flanagan
to go the opposite direction.
Brian Johnson
You know, strip it down.
Walt Flanagan
Strip it down. Only like four people, right?
Brian Johnson
Yeah, us. And Sunday Jeff.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. The Jewish guy.
Brian Johnson
Yeah. And John. No, I. I would love. You know, I don't want to give you any homework that involves spending more time with me.
Jonna
Yeah. Is this an official work assignment?
Brian Johnson
No, that's. That's what I was trying to make clear.
Brian Quinn
Okay.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
If you listen, it won't hurt.
Brian Johnson
I will say that it won't hurt,
Brian Quinn
but can you listen to it on the clock?
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Brian Quinn
There you go.
Jonna
We could pretty much do whatever we
Brian Quinn
want on the clock. That's some set, huh?
Jonna
It's some set. I. I'll tell you.
Brian Quinn
Sounds like it.
Jonna
Pretty loose in conversation.
Brian Quinn
Lay back and chill.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Let's just say this has worked. So we can write off our Spotify subscription.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
There you go.
Brian Johnson
And is there an ant title we can give? Is there an ant that we can give to Matt? Yeah. New ant. Fresh ant.
Jonna
Really gonna piss Jesse off.
Matt
Josh will be happy for me. Jesse will be upset. Aunt Maddie. Huh?
Brian Quinn
Aunt Maddie.
Brian Johnson
Well, we gotta get in the time. Like, if his job is to get his job to is Mant. Mant.
Brian Quinn
That's not bad.
Brian Johnson
It has nothing to do with the title, though, of like, what he's doing us.
Brian Quinn
Oh, like the Ambassador ant.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
That's what I mean. That's.
Brian Quinn
You want to strip Justin Kyle of his title. No, don't hang yourself, Justin.
Brian Johnson
No, don't do that to.
Matt
Justin's really hard.
Brian Johnson
Yeah,
Jonna
he's sort of like.
Walt Flanagan
I like.
Brian Johnson
I think fresh ant's fine. Like, because it's like we're trying to get fresh ants in. He could take in that direction of.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. You could be hip hop if you want to.
Brian Johnson
Yeah.
Matt
Give off a little 80s hip hop about.
Brian Johnson
How about the freshest ant?
Brian Quinn
That's not bad.
Matt
Yeah.
Brian Johnson
Because it'll straddle both of them. It shows that he's new from what I understand. And also he's fresh in the old school hip hop sort of way.
Brian Quinn
He's probably the newest ant minted as of this moment. Yeah. One. There's not. One. There's not a new ant being minted as we speak. Aside from Matt.
Brian Johnson
Right. So the freshest thing. The fresh or the freshest? What do you like, man.
Matt
I mean, it sounds like Sunday Jeff ran into some trouble with Dollar Shave.
Brian Johnson
No, no, no.
Brian Quinn
Yeah. Okay.
Matt
I. What do you think?
Jonna
I think the Freshest Ant is the craziest title. So obviously I want you to have
Brian Johnson
that Freshest Ant newly minted.
Matt
Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I'm gonna. Yeah. I'll get a vest with the patch and then. And then I'll wear it in front of Jesse and Josh. Not mention to them I won't answer any of their questions. Questions about.
Brian Quinn
I was talking to the guys.
Walt Flanagan
Don't even answer them at all unless they address you as Duff Fresh as a.
Matt
It's true.
Brian Johnson
Yeah, John, you probably get stuck with something like Mrs. Fresh,
Matt
Misses Duff, Mrs.
Gideon
DeFresh, Mrs. Five Baby Law.
Brian Johnson
And then finally and crucially, every episode ends like this.
Walt Flanagan
Tell them, Steve.
Matt
Dave.
Released: May 25, 2026
Hosts: Brian Johnson, Walt Flanagan, Brian Quinn (Q), with guests Jonna and Matt
A Welcoming Reset for New Listeners (and the Curious)
This highly self-aware installment, dubbed “Episode Zero,” serves as the launching pad for newcomers to the labyrinthine, inside-joke-laden, community-driven world of Tell ‘Em Steve-Dave! With guests Matt (a newcomer, curious about how to “get in”) and Jonna (a longtime Impractical Jokers collaborator), the crew takes a deep dive into show traditions, lore, personal dynamics, offbeat in-jokes, community structure, and listener culture, blending candid explanation with their usual irreverence.
"This is the episode zero we've been promising... let's bring [Matt and Jonna] in -- let's see if we can win him over as a listener, get him to ask questions that newbies would need to know."
— Brian Johnson [01:00]
“It’s a weird podcast because... there are no people involved who are comedians or, or, or have even interests in becoming comedians. It’s really like a blue-collar, normal people who just kind of got scooped up.”
— Walt Flanagan [115:52]
"No humans are special. We're all just ants crawling around an anthill... we kind of self-identified as non-important, replaceable creatures."
— Brian Johnson [07:58]
“It does seem like you're assembling a small town.”
— Matt [16:28]
“We have a priest. We have an exorcist. We have the hair guy. We have a homicide detective. It does seem like you’re assembling a small town.”
— Jonna & Matt [16:20]
“We reference older episodes and older stuff a lot, and we don’t bother to stop and explain it. Cause you just assume everybody listening is... with the program... which is not a good assumption.”
— Brian Quinn [113:47]
"Tell them, Steve-Dave."
[130:12]
Episode Zero achieves what it set out to do: demystify the maze of cryptic nicknames, occluded histories, and running bits for both new and returning listeners, all without diluting the quirky magic that defines T.E.S.D. If you crave podcasts that are unapologetically themselves, proudly welcoming, and sustained by an organic, evolving community, this is your new (if strange) home. Freshest ants encouraged to apply.
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