#683: It Takes Two

Summary

Tell 'Em Steve-Dave! #683: "It Takes Two"

Date: July 13, 2026
Summary by: Podcast Summarizer

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Episode Overview

The latest episode features Brian "Q" Quinn and Bryan Johnson holding down the fort at the comic shop while Walt is away on vacation. What begins as a casual chat about holiday weekends quickly veers into deep dives on recent horror movie releases, celebrity controversies, relationships, and meaty listener questions about addiction, heartbreak, and life advice. True to the podcast’s DNA, the conversation is raw, funny, occasionally dark, and always honest.

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1. Updates and Banter

Walt on Vacation & Fourth of July Catch-up

• [00:34] Walt is away in Orlando with the Frank family, leading to musings about breaks, responsibility, and running the podcast’s schedule.
  • Johnson jokes about letting Walt enjoy the theme parks, unless there's a comedic punch for a phone call.
• [01:44] Both hosts reflect on their Fourth of July celebrations with family, good food, and fireworks, celebrating 250 years of the United States.
  • “Look at all the other countries… some of them still in shambles, some of them, they’ve been around for fucking thousands of years still living in twigs and stuff.” — A [02:21]

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2. Movie Reviews & Pop Culture Observations

Evil Dead “Burn” & Modern Horror

• [04:17] Discussion of the new Evil Dead Burn movie:
  • Both felt it was an “okay” horror film but a weak entry in the franchise—lacking the gory humor and “meathead hero” essential to Evil Dead’s DNA.
  • “It was a good horror movie, not a great Evil Dead movie. Zero humor.” — A [04:37]
  • Q: “There was none of that feeling of a meathead’s going to come in right now and save us all... I really hope the next movie involves some dopey dude fighting Deadites.” [07:14]
  • Criticism of three consecutive films with female leads, wishing the franchise would return to its “meathead” hero roots.
  • Both missed Ash Williams/Bruce Campbell’s presence.

Supergirl & Lobo Movie

• [12:16] A slams the new Supergirl movie as a “swing and a miss," criticizes Supergirl logic gaps and casting, but admits lead Millie Alcock was not the problem.
  • “If that girl was talking to you in a bar and you had a shot with her, the last thing you'd be worrying about is her quote, unquote, fucked up teeth.” — A [15:08]
• Lobo’s depiction “just Jason Momoa in whiteface” was disappointing.

Mummy (Lee Cronin's Version)

• [19:36] B praises it for gory Deadite-like horror, suggesting some fans should check it out.
  • “This could have been an Evil Dead movie...” — B [19:58]

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3. Pop Culture & Social Commentary

Celebrity Controversies & Online Outrage

• Reviews ongoing drama with Supergirl star Millie Alcock's anti-dad and anti-Christian comments. Discussion of youth activism, generational differences, and protest efficacy.
  • “It is weird when you see like the people who are protesting everything…. Usually people who are very young.” — B [16:09]
• Discussion of Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish as self-righteous celebs guilty of hypocrisy when it comes to social and political stances.
  • “Sometimes it’s better just to keep your fucking mouth shut...” — B [25:55]
• Commentary on the futility and cycles of protest, with acknowledgment that some have made change (e.g., Vietnam, Berlin Wall, BLM).

Life Offline & Quality of Life

• Q and B discuss disengaging from negativity online and curating Instagram feeds toward pets.
  • “I’m now looking at kittens and puppies wrestling. It’s pretty great. Opium for the masses.” — B [19:16]
• Beach, reading, and “offline” habits as forms of personal peace and sanity.

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4. Listener Questions & Advice

Stolen Valor & Senior Discounts (Light Segment)

• [22:36] B asks if he should feel bad about a restaurant giving him a military discount he didn’t earn. Both joke about accepting senior discounts, accepting small perks of aging.
  • “So few things about getting older are positive... If getting two bucks off a movie ticket is one of them, I’m going to take it.” — A [24:01]

Relationship Troubles and Cheating

• [58:08] Listener’s wife cheated multiple times; advice is to focus on healing, accept heartbreak, and not obsess over the “other guy.”
  • “She’s definitely unfaithful… but evil’s a stretch.” — A [58:47]
  • “People cheat on people all the fucking time. ... You have five or six rough months ahead of you, but you just gotta do it, bud.” — A [60:48]
  • “Commit to having five shitty months ... then you’ll be fine.” — A [65:19]
  • “It’s only when you’re like, I’m not gonna take this level of anymore. You have to defeat that wiring.” — B [63:27]

Addiction, Mental Health, and Self-Improvement

• Stories of personal and family addiction; advice to practice “tough love,” stop enabling, and understand that change has to come from the addict.
  • “If the soft touch isn’t working, you’re gonna have to take a harder tact... she’s gotta change for her kids, for herself, her family.” — B [50:57]
• For listeners struggling with depression, pain, or “cycles,” the prescription is to make small changes—not to overhaul everything at once.
  • “Just make tiny changes. If you drink every night, don’t drink Wednesday.” — A [88:03]
  • “You can’t tackle all the... you can’t look at the whole photo and be like, I am a fuck up. How do I fix all of this?” — A [85:01]
  • “Go easy on yourself. ... You need to be your own Mickey from Rocky.” — A [89:54]

Marriage, Sex, Young Relationships

• Married listener (25) not having sex; advice is open discussion and scheduling intimacy. Both hosts advocate “scheduling” as a technique.
  • “Just sit down, you gotta have these conversations. You just gotta schedule it.” — A [70:02]
  • “You are never too busy for pussy...” — B [70:00]

Kids or No Kids?

• 29-year-old listener wonders about having kids.
  • “If that’s the way you feel and you know it, I think you’re fine. ... I have never regretted, I have never had a single second in my life where I’ve wanted kids.” — A [75:11]
  • B shares that while he loves raising Sage, sometimes he wonders how life might have been child-free, and that taking in his sister’s special needs child was an act of love and responsibility.

Cat Ownership Advice

• New cat owner calls in for tips.
  • “Clean the litter box twice a day. ... I’d get a second cat; two are hardly more work than one.”
  • Maintain their nails, buy cheap/scratch-proof furniture, and socialize cats to children and house guests.

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5. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There’s a reason why Ash is so fucking popular all these years later. It’s like, people love fucking meatheads.” — A [33:31]
• “Give me that. Let me watch kittens and puppies wrestling. It’s opium for the masses.” — B [19:16]
• “Just commit to having five shitty months. ... Everything you’re feeling is normal and just deal with it. The only way through it is through it.” — A [65:53]
• “I feel like 70% of my days is walking around just feeling like I’ve wasted my life… I think it’s just being human.” — Q [91:03]

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6. Other Segments and Shoutouts

• Announcement of Taste Funny live event (Q can’t attend, B will be there) [21:02]
• Callbacks to memories with Sal (from Impractical Jokers), including stories of pranks and injuries [53:17]
• Brief mention of possible future UK tour [56:52]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:17]-[11:14] — Evil Dead movie review and horror franchise commentary
• [12:16]-[15:28] — Supergirl & Lobo movie discussion, Millie Alcock controversy
• [19:36]-[20:47] — Lee Cronin's Mummy: Horror movie recommendation
• [25:04]-[26:44] — Taylor Swift & Billie Eilish hypocrisy
• [38:49] — First advice question: Addiction and “tough love”
• [50:57] — Hardline approach to addiction in family
• [58:08]-[68:05] — Heartbreak and heartbreak recovery advice
• [68:38]-[73:37] — Marriage, sex-life, and young relationships
• [73:59]-[79:38] — Kids or childfree? Life choices
• [80:25]-[83:16] — Cat ownership advice
• [83:23]-[92:28] — Coping with chronic pain, depression, and positive self-change

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Tone & Style

As always, the podcast settles into a rhythm blending heartfelt, darkly comic honesty with classic ball-busting friendship. Both Q and B’s conversational style is peppered with self-deprecation, bro-to-bro wisdom, and little interest in sugar-coating hard truths.

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For those who missed the episode:
This installment is a tour through the hosts’ raw, real perspectives—on horror movies, relationships, and the big and small challenges of adulthood. You’ll find movie nerd-outs, reflections on old times, surprisingly sound life advice, and some of the best back-and-forth in podcasting. If you’re looking for warmth, laughs, and real talk (with a heavy dose of gallows humor), #683 delivers.

Transcript

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Foreign.

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Steve Dave set recording of the comic store But Brian Q felt that they needed more film wanting women adventure and booze pride Just wanted to debate how perfect publics and not have to lose. So they traveled. Q travel and hitting pavement try providing abundances of vague navigations. But whether they win or lose, triumph or fail, listen to this podcast and they will regale you with their tales.

[A]

Space Monkeys.

[B]

Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Space Monkeys.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

That's right. Walt's off. He's out and about.

[A]

He's on vacation.

[B]

He's on vacation? Yeah. Long vacation, too. It's like, I don't know, 10 or 12 days, something like that.

[A]

Him and the Franks.

[B]

Him and the Franks went. Yeah. Down to Orlando, to Universal.

[A]

Oh, that's right. Yes. Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. All right. That's great.

[B]

So no Walt this week? Unless we call him. We could call him.

[A]

Yeah. Let him enjoy the park.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, unless there's a comedic punch involved, then I'm all for it.

[B]

But you never know.

[A]

What if the guy's online for the monsters ride and we call and he misses his.

[B]

Misses his cue?

[A]

Yeah. I wouldn't feel good about myself, would you?

[B]

No, not really. Went all the way down.

[A]

It's nice to take a break. You don't really take a lot of breaks. Oh, me, from the podcast? Yeah.

[B]

No, not really. I'm constantly like, okay, when are we doing it next? Yeah, I gotta keep it going.

[A]

You gotta keep it going?

[B]

Cause if I did it, nobody else would.

[A]

I don't think I'd be like, it's been three weeks since we did it.

[B]

Yeah. What's the name of that pod we used to do? Yeah. So I got some stuff before we got to our traditional questions that we have people write in and we try to help them with their problems.

[A]

Right. Oh, cool.

[B]

Some of them I have phone numbers, some I don't. But first, how was your fourth?

[A]

It was good. It was. My parents were at my house. My brother and his kid was at. One of his kids was at my house. Great. Right down the middle, you know, it was.

[B]

Weather held out.

[A]

Weather held out. Pool was good. Everybody was happy. The fireworks display was nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah, good. You know, I was proud. Happy. The. The country. 250 years felt pretty good.

[B]

250. Look what they. Look what the country has accomplished in 250 years. Look at all. Look at all the other countries. Some of them still in shambles. Some of them, they've been around for

[A]

fucking thousands of years still living in twigs and stuff.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Not. Not the US of A.

[B]

No way.

[A]

No, sir.

[B]

Give us 250 years. We're going to build something.

[A]

We're going to build a lot.

[B]

Yeah, fuck you, you say? Yeah, I had about. My fourth. Is about the same. Very. Like, I didn't decide we were having a party until, like, noon because I wasn't sure about the weather.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then we finally decided, yeah, fuck it. All right. It looks like it's going to be nice. Your family came over, had the family over, did some barbecuing on the Blackstone, did some swimming, and that was about it. Very sedate. No fireworks. We didn't go to see fireworks. Hs fireworks. So.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I get out of fireworks every year and I can't see them from my house. Like, you so sure.

[A]

This is subdued. You. I thought it would be bigger this year.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, from my view, I know New York City did a great. And seeing all the tall ships go by.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That was cool. I broke out the binoculars and watched that. That was fun.

[B]

Yeah. Somebody. I can't remember who it was saying, but was it. Was it Walt? I think he was talking about, like, how massive or was it you how massive the ship was. He saw it going by and he was like. He just could not believe how big it was. It was like twice the size of, like, a cargo ship or something.

[A]

Oh, really? Wow.

[B]

Yeah. He was like, it was fucking huge.

[A]

It's cool. I saw something on Instagram that I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. But somebody had taken a photo of, like, the tall ships, but, like, no land behind them out. So you just see the ocean. And the description was like, it's insane that all those old paintings about these ships were 100 accurate. And like, it did. It looked like a fucking painting with sky behind it and the wind blowing the sails in one direction and the choppy sea. And I was like, oh, shit. It was like a photograph.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's just cool.

[B]

Yeah. So that was the fourth. 250 years.

[A]

See any movies?

[B]

What to see Evil Dead Burn.

[A]

I saw it yesterday. What do you think?

[B]

I wasn't super happy with it. I was like, it's okay. It was an okay installment. I like, I didn't hate it, but I wasn't like, I didn't like it as much as Evil Dead Rise.

[A]

No, I love it. It's probably my least favorite Evil Dead movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I felt like it was a good horror movie, not a great Evil Dead movie. Zero humor.

[B]

No. No humor at all.

[A]

No humor at all which is shocking to me. And I liked it. This is gonna sound like a negative review because it is a good horror movie.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Just, it was missing some Evil Dead things, but when I had Evil Dead things, it was awesome. What the fuck is that?

[B]

I think that's let's Get Hims.

[A]

Yeah. It was like the Deadites were. The Deadites, when they were Deadites, were awesome. That scene with the gun, with that Bill Burr looking motherfucker with the gun shooting himself. Oh, it was so fucking cool. And. And, you know, anytime they leaned in on the glee and the joy of the Deadites, I was like, this. This is cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just found that the cast of people they were hunting, I didn't care for at all.

[B]

That was my problem too. I'm just like, I don't relate nor care about any of these characters.

[A]

Especially, like, the lead girl. I'm like, she's so inscrutable and, like, French.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

That I was like, I don't. It's hard for me to connect with this person.

[B]

Yeah. Well, was it French directors?

[A]

Directors? I think it was shot in France.

[B]

Was it?

[A]

Yeah, shot in France.

[B]

That becomes a problem sometimes when it's trying to translate to America. Like a big example of that is Alien 4.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Where it's like. I'm like, resurrection. Yeah. This guy does not know what the fuck he's doing.

[A]

There's a weird French tinge.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. You know, my main problem with Evil Dead Rise, and I'm going to burn it. I'm going to go see it again. Because it did get a lot right and I did like it. It's just my least favorite Evil Dead movie is when they go that dark and they go that humorless. You still exist in the world where the greatest hope to fight these things is fucking Ash Williams.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, you can't erase him from the canon. He's the guy. So it's like, imagine him. To me, if you can't imagine Ash in that movie at all, then it kind of loses the Evil Deadness of it all. And I thought the 2013 version had the same issue, but at least it was the first time it happened, right? And you were like, all right, they're trying something new. And at least there were enough Evil Dead touches to do it. And also the other thing is just like. And I know I'm gonna catch some shit for it, but, like, enough. Enough with the females. Like, like, enough with the female leads. It's three in a row of. And I love Evil. Evil Dead Rise is fucking. I love it. So this isn't a problem with women leading fucking movies. It's probably like three movies in a row of a franchise based on a fucking meathead who somehow blunders his way to being the best warrior possible, not having any element of that at all, right? It's just these women running around, getting terrorized and fucking.

[B]

Yeah. You know, it's Evil Dead and Name Only. Not really a spirit or theme.

[A]

But Rise had it. Because in the end, when she's going nuts and, like, fucking covered in blood and her eyes twitching and, like, you know, and she says, come get some. I'm like, all right. You know what I mean? Like, it feels like Evil Dead this. There was none of it. There was none of it. There was. There was none of that feeling of a meathead's going to come in right now and save us all, right? Which to me, undercuts it because, like, these monsters can't be this scary and they can't be this dangerous if Ash Williams could come in and fucking win. And, like, that's what Evil Dead is. And I just felt like, man, I really hope the next movie involves some dopey dude fucking fighting. Fighting Deadites. Because that's what I love about Evil Dead.

[B]

Yeah. It reminds me in as much as like. Like the first Joker movie where I'm like, this didn't have to be the Joker. This could have just been like, some psycho guy.

[A]

But again, it's like the same thing with. With. With the Evil dead remake from 2013. It's like, it doesn't have to be, but they're trying something different, so I'll bite. But by the third time I'm seeing the trick, I'm like, this is an Evil Dead. Like, give me. But it was, though, at points, the gun scene was Evil Dead. The old woman was fucking. The grandmother was awesome.

[B]

Yeah. Her running joke never really paid off.

[A]

No, no, I didn't get that either. But it is awesome. When that old woman's looking up the stairs, she just starts cutting off her own leg as fast as she could. I was like, that's pretty fucking funny. And then, like, in it, there's a Bruce Campbell nod in it, which I appreciate what I found within the movie. I was like, well, now I'm a little bit confused because is that just a nod to Bruce Campbell or is that supposed to be Ash and is he somehow related to this family? Like, it just. A lot of it didn't work for me and a lot of it did, I guess so. Good horror movie. As an Evil Dead movie, I thought it could have used a little more Evil Dead in it. Yeah, I know. And the family was miserable.

[B]

Nobody. Nobody was happy. Everybody was bummed the whole. The entire time.

[A]

Every. Every man's abusive or coward or cowardly abuser. I'm just like, guys, like. I mean, come on. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. The males are pretty weak in this.

[A]

Weak and evil. And you're just like.

[B]

Yeah, just. Just. Yeah, like the. The main guy who. Who, you know, in the very beginning, who's fighting with his girlfriend.

[A]

Oh, so cartoonish.

[B]

Cartoonish. And you're just like, I don't like this guy.

[A]

I hate him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's an abusive asshole. He's an asshole. Yeah. And then you're just like, I don't want to spend time with any of these characters, and I don't care when they die.

[B]

No.

[A]

Like, it doesn't matter.

[B]

That's a problem.

[A]

You like the Deadites more than you like the fucking characters. And then. Did you stay for the after credits?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I don't want to spoil that, but, like, that was, again, a great character, but I was like, well, I don't understand how this fits together. Mm. Yeah. I'm gonna go see it again.

[B]

Yeah. I think when. When a person that's not American makes a movie that plays in America, it's just like certain things are lost.

[A]

Maybe not every time, but they.

[B]

Not every time, but some things can be lost in translation.

[A]

Yeah, but I. Man, I really hope whoever they. Because they're already shooting it. Evil Dead Wrath, I think it's called. I just. Please, please, just give me some fucking meathead. Give me a meathead hero can just give it to me. I've sat through now an equal amount of movies with women getting terrorized by Deadites, as I did with Ash. Yeah, three and three. So can we just tip the scales back to a meathead for me? That's. That's what I'm hoping.

[B]

And no cameo from Ash either.

[A]

No, just that one nod to him in the house. Did you catch it or you didn't catch it?

[B]

I might not have caught it, so.

[A]

I mean, it's not spoiling anything, but. But when she's going up the stairs, the grandmother is in that chair. The pictures on the wall, one of them is. It looks like a headshot of Bruce Campbell.

[B]

Oh, really? Yeah, I missed that.

[A]

Yeah, it was like a headshot of Bruce Campbell, and I was like, well, what? Well, is that Bruce Campbell or is that Ash Williams? You know, his character? I Was like, I don't know. So I don't know.

[B]

Yeah. Why would Ash have a headshot?

[A]

Yeah. And if they're like, well, we just wanted Bruce Campbell in the movie, I get it. But believe me, I get it. And then I saw back rooms.

[B]

Back rooms. Never heard even heard of that.

[A]

A horror movie. I think you'd like it. It's one. It's like based on this Internet thing where, like there's all these liminal spaces, rooms behind the door, and they don't lead anywhere and they get increasingly surreal as you go and this guy gets lost in it. It's. It was pretty good. You know, I don't think it's that. The landing, but pretty good. And then I saw Supergirl.

[B]

Did you? Yeah. Everything they said it would be.

[A]

Fuck, man. What a swing and a miss it was. The first half hour. I was. I was kind of into the take on it and then you're just like. Like, there's no logic to this movie. Like, she doesn't have powers under a fucking red sun, but somehow she does kind of still have powers on. She could take a beating that would kill any normal person. And then the dog who's Kryptonian gets poisoned on the red sun. And her first instinct is like, let me get him to a yellow sun. She just leaves him under a red sun. I'm like, well, wouldn't it be better to have him under the yellow sun to heal up? And then like, in the end, it was just like, I wanted to like it. I couldn't like it.

[B]

Just kind of like. And this is coming from a guy who's not a Christian dad who. She said she doesn't want them at the. Doesn't want them to see. Come see the movie. She doesn't like him.

[A]

No, none of that stuff. Like, I'm able to be like, all right, whatever. She's a 20 something year old kid. She shooting her mouth off. I don't even know what she said, but I know that, like, she shouldn't have said it. Once you start to promote a movie, it's like stuff I'm able to shed all that stuff. All that political kind of stuff. When I go see a movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What I can't shed is logic gaps and stupid decisions and, you know, dump. Just dumb, dumb shit. So. And Lobo is disappointing to me.

[B]

Yeah. You said you had to see it because of Lobo.

[A]

Yeah. I love the character so much. And it was just Jason Momoa in whiteface. I was like, why? You guys didn't even he didn't even try and make Lobo his own character. I mean, it helps that Jason Momoa is perfect for it, but I was like, I would have liked to seen a little bit more Lobo in it. Yeah, but whatever, man.

[B]

What are you going to do?

[A]

What am I going to do? I'm going to review movies on a podcast now. Apparently, that's what I'm going to do. Yeah. But Evil Dead I was not disappointed in, but I was hoping it would be a little bit more funny.

[B]

So she says, this is Millie Alcock. She made comments about online criticism that alienated a certain segment of the audience. She's targeted specific demographics, such as individuals with Christian themed profiles. I guess that's on, like, Instagram or Twitter or whatever. And dads. She doesn't like dads. And then expressed that if you're pissing the right kind of people off, you're doing okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She also discussed the character's sexuality and her intentional disinterest in watching past female superhero performances.

[A]

Sounds like you got a winner on your hands.

[B]

Wait a second.

[A]

She wasn't the problem.

[B]

That didn't do well. Yeah. Misogyny. Mm.

[A]

You can only beat that horse so much, man, before you got to make a good movie. Yeah, I thought she was. I didn't think she was bad as Supergirl. Like, I actually kind of didn't mind her take on it. And I thought, I don't know. Again, I don't know why guys are saying she's ugly. I. I don't.

[B]

I saw that too. Like, they said her teeth are all messed up or something.

[A]

Dude, if that girl was talking to you in a bar and you had a shot with her, the last thing you'd be worrying about is her quote, unquote, fucked up teeth. She's so pretty. You know what I mean? And, like, I thought she. I didn't think she was a bad Supergirl. And I don't care what she said in interviews, but I am looking at pictures of her.

[B]

Her teeth aren't exactly straight. I'd say, yeah, it's so.

[A]

Fucking.

[B]

What the fucking video is like. It's so mean. The title is just ugly and then says, wtf? Teeth.

[A]

She doesn't deserve that. That's. No, no, but what are you gonna do? But she's young. Like, she's gonna say what? Look, she grew up in the era where pro people kids her age were programmed to be sanctimonious, know it all, fucking preachers. So you can't.

[B]

You. Virtue. Virtue.

[A]

You can't really hold it against her like as she'. I mean, you can. And people did. But I would be like this, you know, maybe the kid just needs to fucking age up a little bit and realize that she doesn't know everything.

[B]

Yeah. It is weird when you see like the people who are protesting everything and the people who are like, I'm, I'm anti this, I'm anti that. It's like, it's usually people who are very young.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Who like. And I'm like, I'm sorry, but like I'm fucking closing in on 60. I'm not going to listen to some 20 year old about like what life means and you know, like, and, and what the, what direction the country needs to go in because, you know.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They're unhappy with it.

[A]

Yeah. But you know what? It's going to be their country long after you're gone.

[B]

Yep. There'll be somebody else's country long after they're gone. But they don't realize that yet.

[A]

They don't realize it.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't realize it at that age either. No, now I realize you do.

[A]

Matters. No, no.

[B]

You can sit out there with your sign as much as you want. You can hoot and holler as much as you want and it's not going to change.

[A]

Yeah, I might though, I guess, but I think so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're telling me no protest has ever changed anything.

[B]

I don't know, let's see, what protest has changed something. Vietnam perhaps.

[A]

I mean, it definitely changed public opinion towards it. But again, oh yeah, if you meet with some of these Vietnam guys and like, they do have stories of like, yeah, now people were spitting on us, you're like, well that, I mean, that's not great.

[B]

No. Call them baby killers and shit like that. Yeah.

[A]

But so it's just, it's always been this way and it'll always be this way and it doesn't, you know, it doesn't really matter.

[B]

Protest that changed history. Okay, let's see, you got. Well, not many. Well, the fall, the most, like most recently, Black Lives Matter protests definitely cross

[A]

a ripple, that's for sure.

[B]

It definitely changed some shit. The fall of the Berlin Wall.

[A]

Sure, yeah. I mean, I'm not, I don't think you're saying that protest doesn't work. I just think that. I don't know. What the fuck do I know, dude?

[B]

No, I think though, people protest a lot of shit for a long time. Like at a certain point I'd be like, I give up.

[A]

Yeah, that might be a you thing.

[B]

You Think so.

[A]

It's definitely a me thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know what you want from me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just gonna go feed the squirrels and the cats in my yard and, like, just try.

[B]

So much simpler, right?

[A]

Make that a little bit better for them. Yeah.

[B]

You know what? The other day, I went to the beach with Marybeth. She goes, she loves shelling. She likes going for shells and little rocks and stuff. And, you know, I brought my book and I was reading, and I'm like, this is nice. Like, I'm just. I'm reading a book that has no messages, no political. I'm not listening to anybody with their fucking opinion in my ear. She's leaving me alone because she's going seashelling. She's seashelling. Yeah. It's perfect. I'm like. I'm by myself, I'm alone, and nobody is hooting or hollering about what I'm doing wrong.

[A]

Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, it's nice. I think people, you know, as people get offline and stuff like that. I think that's more what. We'll see. What do I know?

[B]

Yeah, I don't know.

[A]

Nothing.

[B]

I've been offline a lot.

[A]

That's good. Yeah, I've been. That's. How's your head?

[B]

Better.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, it's definitely better. I don't really like. I mean, I guess the shit that used to piss me off and get me annoyed, it's still out there, but I'm just not seeing it.

[A]

Great.

[B]

I've completely changed my ig, My Instagram algorithm. I'm now looking at kittens and puppies wrestling.

[A]

There you go, buddy. There you go. The more you watch them, the more they get sent your way. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's pretty great. Yeah. It's opium for the masses.

[B]

Give me that. Give me that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's see, what else? Oh, I think you might like it, because it definitely was gory. On hbo, the Mummy is streaming Lee Cronin's the Mummy.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And I was like. At first, I was like, it seems a little long. It's 2 hours and 15 minutes. But I'm like, all right. You know, for a horror movie, I'm like, I'll give it a try.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This could have been an Evil Dead movie.

[A]

That is what I've heard about it.

[B]

Yeah. Dude, it is so gory.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's so much violence in it and shit. And it's not like, like, the person who is, you know, the quote unquote mummy is not Very mummy. Like they're more like a Deadite. Like that's what I was watching.

[A]

I kept hearing, right, and this is the guy that directed evil dead in 2013.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I got to check it out. I know people have seen it, hate it. Some people like it, just don't watch it. And I guess it scared me away. But you're saying give it a watch.

[B]

I didn't hate it, no. Yeah, I thought it was like. I mean, I went in thinking it was going to be something different. I thought it was going to be more of a slow paced, like, you know, mummy movie. But no, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

[A]

Oh yeah, I'll check it out. Yeah, then I'll take it. I'll take your. Yeah, I. It looks from the trailers, it looked a little dead eyed. Ish.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The girl like laughing and causing. Mm. I'm assuming. I mean a spoiler for a two year old movie, but I'm assuming that's. No, she's like a demon or something like that. That's not like a mummy, right?

[B]

She said. Yeah, she's a demon.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I'll check it out. I'll check it out.

[B]

Yeah, I liked it. What else I got here? Oh, tastes funny weekend. Will you be there?

[A]

Unfortunately, I cannot be there.

[B]

Can't make it, huh?

[A]

Two very beloved crew members on Jokers are getting married to each other that weekend.

[B]

So gotta do that.

[A]

I gotta do that. And it's a weekend thing. Like I'm going five hours upstate and shit like that.

[B]

So.

[A]

Okay, I can't make it, which is a bummer because I don't get to see Jiggy as much as I want to anymore since he moved to la.

[B]

Yeah, well, I'll be there.

[A]

Oh, great.

[B]

Yeah, she could text me as if I want to come down and do some. Do some podding with Ming.

[A]

Oh, very.

[B]

Ming will be there.

[A]

Man, I'm missing that. Yeah, that sucks.

[B]

Yeah. You hadn't mentioned it, so I figured you probably couldn't go, but I want to go.

[A]

I just. This. It's like the one wedding that I couldn't be like. Sorry, guys, I got to go do a show with my friends.

[B]

Yeah, let me see. I had it down here. Oh yeah. The. The dates are if you want to go. It's. Well, it's Thursday. July 30th is like the bonus Thursday night. And then it's Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The. July 30th. 31st. First and second, I guess. August 1st and second. So if you're into it.

[A]

Yeah, it's a good time.

[B]

Check it out.

[A]

Taste Funny 6 A lot of Taste Funny's DNA is built into Q West. So if you went to that and had a good time, it's kind of.

[B]

Yeah. I thought Jiggy did a great show at Key West. That was really entertaining. He's handcuffing people all kinds of shit. I did have a question for you. It's a moral question.

[A]

Oh, I like this.

[B]

So I frequent a restaurant for breakfast. Like enough that they're like, this is a regular.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And so we get certain benefits. Like sometimes we'll get free drinks. We'll get a free basket of tortilla chips.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

The other day I noticed on my bill she didn't charge us for the drinks, but she also added a discount. Ooh, a military discount.

[A]

Oh, stolen valor.

[B]

Stolen valor.

[A]

She doesn't think you're in the military. She's just. She's just trying to. She's just using whatever.

[B]

Whatever means necessary to give you the discount. Yeah, I saw that. And I said to Mary Beth, and it was only like three bucks. It wasn't like that much.

[A]

I mean, you didn't walk in and camouflage and shit like that. Like they're trying to help you out,

[B]

you know, I got PTSD, man. Give me $3 off coming in a

[A]

wheelchair with long hair.

[B]

Yeah. Look like Charlie. Always sunny.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I wasn't sure. Like. Like I don't want it to become a regular thing.

[A]

Why? It's three bucks.

[B]

It is three bucks.

[A]

Think I'm not buying movie tickets with senior discount. Oh, I do 100% of the time now.

[B]

Yeah. I'm silver enough now that they just assume.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, the. The 18 year old working the counter would. They think I'm 100 anyway, so it don't matter.

[B]

Yeah, at one time I think it would have bothered me. I would have been like, you think I'm a senior citizen now. I'm like, hey, man, aaa here.

[A]

Hold on, young one. So few things about getting older are positive. So few things like that. If getting two bucks off a movie ticket is one of them, I'm going to take it.

[B]

Yeah. With the movie tickets, which I did get the other day, I'm just like, you know what my neck like, right. My right side of my neck has been hurting for like a week. If that doesn't qualify me as being a senior, I don't know what does.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah, that's funny.

[B]

Yeah. So, okay, no stolen valor.

[A]

I don't think so. I think you're okay, you're not asking for it. They're giving it to you.

[B]

No. Yeah, they just, they assumed. They assumed maybe I had that thousand yard stare in my eyes when they fucking didn't bring my pants fast enough. Last thing. Taylor Swift wedding. Why weren't you there?

[A]

Mainly because I wasn't invited. I would have won if I was invited.

[B]

Would you have gone?

[A]

Yeah, of course. You're talking about. Absolutely.

[B]

That was something else. I love all these people that are like, hey, man, borders. Borders. Taylor Swift was all about borders for a while.

[A]

Oh, was she?

[B]

And then around Madison Square Garden. What does she do against borders? And then what did you do for Madison Square Garden?

[A]

What's up? Security fence.

[B]

Yes, exactly. There's security out the ass.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't know Taylor Swift.

[A]

Well, what are you suggesting? That she, like every other human on the planet's a hypocrite?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

All right.

[B]

That's what she is.

[A]

All right, that's fine.

[B]

I just want her to admit it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they won't admit it.

[A]

Is she politic? I never really hear about her.

[B]

She's not really too political. But she did squawk about borders for a while. Just like Billie Eilish when she was squawking about we're living on stolen land and then it turned out where her mansion is built is built on like some certain tribe's land. And they're like, hey, we'll take it back.

[A]

I'm guessing she didn't give it back.

[B]

She did not give it back. No, I don't think she acknowledged it. Yeah. So she.

[A]

Oh, there was a land acknowledgement that time.

[B]

Nope. Sometimes it's better just to keep your fucking mouth shut if you're not.

[A]

I mean, most times they're better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Keep your mouth shut.

[B]

Yeah. Just be quiet.

[A]

Yeah, but it's easy for them to. And I, you know, I certainly don't want to get into apologies or anything like that, but like, it's easy to tee off on, on like that because you know it's never going to happen. So you could take the quote unquote right side with no repercussions. It doesn't cost you anything and nothing will ever change.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it's like, yeah, of course you could take the high and mighty route when there's like the second, it's like, well, what about your house? You see the real one come out? And by that I mean not come out of their house.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. To acknowledge it. Yep.

[A]

But again, she's got to be young too. Like Billie Eilish.

[B]

Yeah. She's in her early 20s.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, you know, I think, I think. I think maybe people are too hard on kids that age because they just grew up, one, the pandemic, and two, they just grew up in a time. And. And, you know, I think a lot of people are learning that it wasn't right, but they just bring up broke. Such a divisive, angry time, sanctimonious people that they have no choice but to absorb that any more than you and I had a choice to absorb what was going on in the world while we were growing up. Which is why we're cool as fuck.

[B]

I'd agree with that.

[A]

Yeah. You know how the cool kids have to tell you how cool they are, right?

[B]

Yeah. They have to remind you constantly. I'm cool.

[A]

Right, guys?

[B]

I'm not just saying. A lot of people have said it, not just me.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Let's see. Before we get into our questions, let's get these two ads knocked out. I got two of them this week.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah.

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Mm. You can use them pretty much every day. And I know Gidem uses them when he goes to the. When he goes to the buffet. He has a special pair. Yeah, he's charging them right now, so he might be on his way to the buffet soon. Yeah. Probably surprised he's not there right now.

[A]

Yeah. I got a purple case, one that I'm using right now.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I got black, which is not. I wish I didn't get black because it's so hard to see.

[A]

I have a black pair from before. They upgraded it to USB C. I just never use it because now I have the new ones.

[B]

You got the new ones? Yeah.

[A]

Purple.

[B]

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[A]

You want the purple ones?

[B]

Regal.

[A]

I'll trade with you.

[B]

Yeah, if you want. Yeah. I think I got a brand new pair. Let's see what else we got.

[A]

Purple is my color. I like it.

[B]

It is.

[A]

Really is. I love purple. I think when I was younger, I fought against it. Purple sk. Yeah, I think when I was younger, I considered it a girl's color.

[B]

Well, it reminds you of the grimace a little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But at the same time, it's the most regal color out there.

[A]

It's a great color. I mean, it's just a pleasing color to look at.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Purple.

[B]

I don't mind purple.

[A]

I like saying it. Purple.

[B]

Yeah. It's probably the funnest color to say.

[A]

I think it's a great color. If I met a hot alien woman with purple skin, I think I'd marry her.

[B]

Yeah?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It wouldn't shy. You wouldn't shy away from it. Nah. All right.

[A]

Like, purple. Beautiful, light purple skin with like, maybe like, darker purple nipples. Oh, yeah. You see what I'm getting at?

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[A]

Then I'd be a purple people eater.

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[A]

A lot of French needle drops in this Evil Dead movie. There were at least three French songs.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

French. At weird times.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, that's what I mean about, like the foreigners directing American films. It's like sometimes it totally works.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Other times it's like, I don't know that. Like I said, it gets lost in translation and there's just something like, not quite right.

[A]

I was wondering about that in the beginning when. When like they were painting out that guy to be abusive. Like every single line he said. There was no shades of anything. It was like this guy's. They might as well put a neon sign on his head and been like, bad guy.

[B]

Right? Dickhead.

[A]

Dickhead. Bought you $1,000 pen. We got it. And you're just like, oh, boy. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I agree that that dude was very one dimensional.

[A]

Yeah. And then like when he was a demon later on, I didn't like the design of the demon. Like the fire demon. I was like.

[B]

I liked his rib cage, though. I thought the rib cage look.

[A]

Yeah, but it's something I've seen a billion times.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I guess you've seen in other Evil Dead. The army of Darkness. Right.

[A]

Yeah. Those were just flat out more skeletal. Yeah. I just. Yeah. I just kind of wish they made more of an Evil Dead movie. Sorry. What's our next.

[B]

We got some.

[A]

You know what these movies mean to me.

[B]

I know. Yeah, I know. I know you're not gonna take it lightly.

[A]

And I gotta take a look. And again, I know I'm being very negative on it, but it is not. It's not a bad movie. It's just not a great Evil Dead movie.

[B]

Yeah. Is what I. Yeah, I would agree with that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would agree with that. Yeah. If I went in there not thinking it was evil, Dennis, just like, you

[A]

know, some fucked up shit.

[B]

The demons.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know. Yeah, I would like. Wow. This is not bad. Like, they did some pretty cool shit here, but.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. The actual tone of it, like, and the lack of any comedic elements whatsoever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really makes it not quite an Evil Dead movie.

[A]

Yeah. I wonder if the lead in the next one's going to be another, like, small woman getting abused by demons. Can I just get a meathead? Where the fuck are the meatheads?

[B]

There's a meathead out there.

[A]

There's a reason why Ash is so fucking popular all these years later. It's like, people love fucking meatheads. Yeah, you know, I'm great. You suck. And then they step on a rake and hit their face like, that's the character.

[B]

That's the guy you want.

[A]

That's the guy.

[B]

Anyway, sorry, Forget about what we want. Need. Guys, what do women want and need?

[A]

Great question.

[B]

I don't know. I'm 58. I still don't know what women want. Yeah, I try to guess. I always guess wrong, it seems.

[A]

Remember that Mel Gibson movie years ago, what Women Want?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Where he could hear what. I never saw it. But like, they should remake that movie with, Holy shit, I'd have to watch it.

[B]

That would be funny. Yeah, yeah. That was one of those movies that I'm like, it looks. I know they're. They're not going to be thinking what I want them to be thinking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So fuck this movie.

[A]

I think, as I recall the trailer, and I don't think I've seen the trailer since I started movie theaters, it was a lot of women looking at Mel Gibson going, he looks good in those jeans. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think that's what I would be hearing.

[A]

No. Like, ew.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What?

[B]

Talking to their kids. Stand behind me. Don't go near them. Let's see.

[A]

What do women want?

[B]

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[A]

Okay, they're telling you what it is.

[B]

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[A]

How often do you have sex in your bedroom?

[B]

Oh, almost always.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, Almost exclusively. Wow.

[A]

I'm like, you're all over almost. Bedrooms for sleeping.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, really? You don't want to taint your bedroom, huh?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's. Anywhere else in the house is more likely.

[B]

Bend her over the couch and send her home.

[A]

Get out.

[B]

Well done.

[A]

No, no, no, no. Of course.

[B]

Oh, I cradle her and I loving afterwards.

[A]

You know, we order a pizza at this age.

[B]

What are you supposed to do? You're supposed to celebrate the aftermath. It's like, you do it, you're done, and then here comes the pizza.

[A]

You give a high five. Let's get a pizza.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have you seen this episode of Ash vs Evil Dead yet?

[B]

Look at this meathead.

[A]

Explain why my outfit's gone down in recent years.

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[A]

I think I figured it out while you were talking. Okay. I don't have any kids. Like, if you have kids, you kind of got to lock it into the bedroom. You can't just be balls out banging all over the house.

[B]

Yeah, I agree, because I. Sage's room is right down the. Yeah, the hallway from us, so you

[A]

gotta lock that door.

[B]

Gotta lock it. We gotta. Blockade.

[A]

I don't have these issues.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Worst I have is a cat staring at me while I'm trying to do my work.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Boris, we need to get tension. Nobody tells you about that in high school sex ed class. Like, sometimes you're gonna look up and Lock eye with a cat. And you're like, get the fuck out of here.

[B]

And they're not gonna listen.

[A]

No. Then you gotta disengage. Chase him out of the room.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Dick flopping, boner popping, bonus slapping all over the place.

[B]

The fuck out of here. Let's see. Okay, you want to get into the problems and the questions?

[A]

Keep your face in that pillow.

[B]

I'm getting this cat out of here. Don't you move.

[A]

Don't move. Face down, ass up. You know the rules. Get out of here.

[B]

That's the way Q likes to fuck.

[A]

That's it. I can't do it anymore. I don't know.

[B]

All right, let's see what we got here. Oh, this is a sad one.

[A]

Get him. No mic for you.

[B]

No mic for. Get him today.

[A]

I had a question for him, but I'll save it for the next show.

[B]

Okay. Hey, boys. I'm wondering if you have any advice dealing with a sister with a severe addiction issue. She has lost custody of both of her kids, hasn't had a job since November, and yet she still expects blind, unwavering support from me. Thanks in advance.

[A]

All right, this is more my. I just. I don't. I don't have. I'm not good for advice on this. No, I don't think so. I don't think I helped you too much when you were in your throws. I was very permissive and, like, I don't know that I ever took a hard line when you were dealing with all that stuff.

[B]

No, not really. You know why? Because I was functional.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not like I was. I didn't have it. Well, I didn't have a job for a while, but, like, once we started the podcast and we were doing that and getting that going, and then the TV show started and all that, and then the Patreon started. It's like I've been. You know, I had been functional the entire time. Like, I was probably for the first four seasons of Comic Book Man, I was on pills.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so I was still able to do it. Right. So that's why I think nobody really felt like. Except for Walt. If I was going to point to somebody who suffered from it, I would. I would say it was probably Walt. Yeah. Because, like, I was in the throes of it when we were doing Cryptozoic Man. So, like, I always late on deadlines and like that. So, like, Walt really had to bear the brunt of it. And Walt was the one who went to Kevin, and he was like, look, I Think we got to do something about this guy.

[A]

It's good. He was a better friend dear than I was at the time, that's for sure. Because he took steps to help you.

[B]

Yeah, he's that guy, though. He's. He looks out for people. He's.

[A]

Well, he's judgmental.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? And it's like.

[B]

It's, you know, for good, for better or for worse.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't mind telling you what you're doing wrong, but he did. He was. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And he definitely, like, had to deal with, like, me being an asshole at times. Like, I remember one time, like, I lied to him about something. I have no recollection of it. I don't remember what it was about. But then when he got upset, I was like, oh, what? You've never been lied to before? This is. You know what? I believe him because he tells me, yeah, that's the logic of a fucking dope fiend. Right. So for her, I would say on

[A]

you for being sensitive that your friend lied to you.

[B]

What are you, some kind of puss?

[A]

Some twisted. Yeah. Some twisted logic there.

[B]

Yeah. My thing. Okay. So she lost her kids. She hasn't had a job since November, and she expects blind and unwavering support. I think this is one of those situations where you have to go, tough love.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You can't keep supporting somebody in something that's so detrimental to not only herself, but obviously to people around her. Her own children. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, if this government's taking the

[B]

kids away, yeah, that's a problem.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a big problem. Yeah. So I would. My. My advice would be that, you know, and I guess people didn't really have to do this with me, but. But with her, it sounds like you need to take a hard line and say, like, look, we're not going to support this behavior anymore. We. We can't. You know, we love you. We care about you. This is. You must know, even, like. Even, like, back when I was in. Like I said, in the heat and right in the middle of it, logically, I knew that I was fucked up, and I knew I shouldn't be doing what I was doing. I just couldn't help it because, you know, the addiction, you know.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I wasn't ready to be like, fuck this. I don't want to do this anymore.

[A]

It's fucking hard. It's hard to do when you're not fighting an addiction.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, don't you. To this day, still. And I'm Talking about myself here, too. Like, look at your own behavior and be like, why am I doing this?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, what does it matter? I could sit there and logically be like, what I'm doing now is what I don't want to be doing. I don't want to be eating like shit. I don't want to be wasting time. I don't want to be doing this. And I'll just do it anyway. It's fucking. It's a weird feeling.

[B]

Yeah. I couldn't agree with you more. There are times when I feel. It's like, I'll go on Amazon and I'll buy something. I'm like. And when it gets. I was like, I didn't need that. Like, why the fuck did I buy this? Why do I do this? What. What hole am I trying to fill?

[A]

Yeah. And to be aware of all this and to still do it, it's fucking. It's pretty nuts.

[B]

Yeah. Like, at a certain point, like, I read an Agatha Christie book and I had this character, Hercule Poirot.

[A]

Oh, sure, of course.

[B]

Yeah. So. And he's like a. He's this weird, eccentric little. Little guy.

[A]

He's got that mustache.

[B]

Got his mustaches. Yeah. And I really enjoy the book, and I'm like, I'm going to buy every Hercule Poirot book there is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I went back and I looked them all up, and I probably have. I think it's like 25 books now or something.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's going to take me forever to read them because I just started.

[A]

Are they thick?

[B]

No, I can get each one done in about two days.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I can't do it now because I just started the. The Dark Tower series.

[A]

Oh, right. This is your first time doing the Complete.

[B]

Doing the run. Yep.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I read the Stand first and I read Eyes of the Dragon because that also has some.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tan flag stuff. Yeah. So I read them just to. Yeah. And I'm like, I probably didn't need to read them.

[A]

You didn't need to read them.

[B]

Right. But there's like.

[A]

I mean, they're good reads.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I never read Eyes of the Dragon before.

[A]

Oh, it's good, right?

[B]

Really enjoyed it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I remember at the time when it came out, I was like, this isn't horror. This isn't like, Stephen King is horror. I don't want to read about dragons and fairies and shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when I read it, I was like, this is fucking pretty good. This is a good story.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I enjoyed it.

[A]

So why don't you think you can get through the. I get the Christie books.

[B]

Oh, I can. It's just gonna take forever. And like, my point is, like, why didn't I just buy them one at a time when I was sure? Like now I got all 25 books sitting there waiting to be read.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know, it's like. It's this completist attitude though.

[A]

Yeah, I want it. I'll have it here and I'll read them.

[B]

Yeah, I will read them for sure. But it's gonna take forever. Cause, you know, like I said, I got this Dark Tower series to get through that's gonna take me probably the whole summer at least.

[A]

Yeah, I reread them last summer.

[B]

Did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've talked to several people who have reread them. So I'm like, it must be fucking awesome.

[A]

It is awesome. It does, it does. Towards the end, you know, your tastes are going to vary on it. On the reread, I was happier with it than I was the first time I read it, so. But yeah, they're great. I mean, Eddie Dean is an all time fucking character. He's one of my favorite characters ever. He spent a lot of time with him in those later books too. Yeah, yeah. School. Do you ever hear the First Law trilogy?

[B]

No.

[A]

By this guy named, I think Joe Abercrombie. That came out in the early 2000s. Somebody recommended to me the other day. And I tore through the first one, but it's same sort of. Not dragons, but in that Game of Thrones type world with dragons and man, I tore through the first fucking book. I'm recommending him heartily.

[B]

Man, you're a fast reader.

[A]

Yeah, I read real fast.

[B]

Yeah, you read quickly.

[A]

Yeah, I read fast and I love it. So it's like, it's not like I'll just sit down on the couch and read for like three hours and just love every second of it.

[B]

So, yeah, that's what I tried to do in the morning. Like, I started getting up early, you know, like Sage would get off to school and then I would just read for a while while Marybeth was still sleeping.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

For whatever reason. It was great. For whatever reason, as I've gotten up, like I get usually get up around 6. I let the dog out, I can make my tea. By the time I'm ready to sit down and read, it's like 6:30. I've noticed that they've. Both Sage and Mary Beth have started getting up earlier and earlier and earlier encroaching yes. Encroaching on my time. And I hear them, and Mary Beth comes downstairs, and she's talking to the dog. And we had this discussion last night. I was like, look, I don't. If I'm doing whatever. I don't give a shit if you talk to the dog and talk to the cat and talk to the fucking fish and all these other fucking pets she's constantly talking to. But when I'm reading, it's. And you're, like, in the same room, it's really distracting.

[A]

And it's always, like, a voice, too, right?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Because I do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm not picking on Marybeth. I'll be like. I'm like, who's your Boris today? Are you a Boris? Good. Over here, Boris. Get out of here, Boris. I'm trying to fuck. I'm trying to fuck, boys. Yeah, but. What? Yeah, that's. But you haven't. This is. I feel like there's a solution for you.

[B]

All right?

[A]

And it's that fucking great basement you got. Turn it into your area. You just go down and, like, close that door, and you're good.

[B]

I think you're right. I actually did consider that. But, like, the one reason that I'm holding off is because every morning, like, I sit on the couch, and then on the back of the couch, I'll set my. I'll set a pillow. And then my cat Salem, comes up, and he sits right next to me, and he purrs and hangs out with me.

[A]

You don't think he'll do that in the basement?

[B]

I think he will, but I'm scared of him getting lost in the basement.

[A]

Oh, he's a cat. He'll come back.

[B]

He'll come back. Yeah.

[A]

I just.

[B]

Yeah, I could bring him down, but I just don't want him, like, wandering and, like, getting into the floorboards or something like that, because there's. Like that. It's finished, except for the one part where the storage that's unfinished. I don't want him in there.

[A]

No door.

[B]

No, there's two doors, but they're like these barn doors. I don't know why they did this, but there's, like, a. There's barn doors, but they didn't attach the bottoms. They did it twice in the house. Like, they don't. Like, they should be sliding, you know, but, like, they slide, but then, like, the. The end comes out, and then they fucking slowly slide back. So I'll have to put, like, a latch on it or something. No.

[A]

What you do is you hire someone to come in. Either finish the doors.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or you rip those doors out and have them done. Like, don't. This is your life, man.

[B]

Yeah, you're right.

[A]

You're not using that basement because the fucking door won't stay closed. Like, this is it. These are. These are the upgrades, man.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. You're.

[A]

Yeah. Like, just get it done.

[B]

All right. Yeah. All right. Yeah, that's what I'm.

[A]

That's what you do, mate. I love. When I first saw that basement, I was like, there was so much that could be done here.

[B]

Marybeth has ruined it by piling shit up all over the place.

[A]

Put them behind those barn doors.

[B]

Yep. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna get on her. I'm gonna be. Come on, let's.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

Let's clean this up.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Let's get your ass. We got out of bed. God damn it.

[A]

Yeah. And you could even, like. Because I did this in my house, I had. I put basically pet doors. Interior in my house in some of them, so I can still close the door and lock out sound, but the cats have access to certain rooms in the house when I'm not there. You do that at the top of those basement steps. Dude, you got your little guy coming down with you every day.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

It's heaven. Heaven.

[B]

I say I'm gonna give it a shot.

[A]

Give it a shot. Because two doors, like, you get sunlight in there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you get one of those lights, those winter lights down there. You know what I mean?

[B]

For depression. Yeah, I think I got one of them somewhere.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

You're.

[A]

Who's. Who's. Now. Now you're down there now. You got a neon sign, you got a jukebox. Oh, you got a nice TV on the wall.

[B]

I'm in business. Yeah, I got my TV down there, too.

[A]

You'll be. You'll be down there all the time.

[B]

I don't need my family. What the.

[A]

That's the upstairs.

[B]

I'll put a refrigerator down there. I won't need anything.

[A]

Now you're talking my language. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So anyway, the person who's.

[A]

You still talk to Ernie?

[B]

Who's wondering about Ernie? Yeah. But he doesn't do that kind of stuff anymore. Yeah.

[A]

He might have a recommendation for you.

[B]

Yeah, he may. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. There's plenty of guys that do it from.

[A]

Just get it done. Get it done this month and you'll. You'll be so much happier going forward.

[B]

Yeah. All right. Done.

[A]

Done.

[B]

That's what I'm doing. Let's see. So, yeah, I would say you're gonna have to take. If. If the. The soft touch isn't working, you're gonna have to take a harder tact, and if somebody had taken a harder tact with me, I'm. I'm. I don't know. I might have changed. I might not. It's. It's tough when you're. When you're in the. The addiction cycle. It's so true what they say. It's like, you have to be ready to be like, I don't want to do this anymore. Like, I'm tired of this. You can't have other people telling you or do it for other people. Although I will say, like, when I was like, what am I doing? Like, I got to get off this shit. Like, Sage was a big part of that too.

[A]

Right?

[B]

I'm like, I got to get off this.

[A]

I'm live for.

[B]

Yeah. So that would be my. That would be my advice to take a harder tact and let her know that, like, you know, you're not fucking around anymore.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like, she's got to change. She's got to change for her kids, she's got to change for herself. She's got to change for her family. And if she doesn't. Yeah, it does. I don't know what she's addicted to, but it must be something strong. Yeah.

[A]

It just sounds so hard.

[B]

What's the next question? When did you guys first start actually hanging out? That would have been 97.

[A]

No, earlier. 96, because I was 19 or 20 when we met, so 94. I was 18 or 17, let's say, graduated high school. Yeah, 96.

[B]

About 96.

[A]

So, yeah, about 96.

[B]

Maybe about 30 years now.

[A]

Yeah. Long time.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Long time. That. That. That.

[B]

Don't regret a second of it.

[A]

Not a second.

[B]

So glad I met you.

[A]

I. Yeah, I mean, you changed. You changed my life. So. So, like, I. When I met you, I felt like I met my people. View askew. Overall was, like, really good for me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It's surprising to me that. Look, it's been many, many years, and a lot of things have happened, but it's always surprising to me that I'm not closer to Kevin, given the impact that he's had on my life.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, that was such a formative time in my life and such a fan of his growing up. You know, Clerks and Morats, and I came in on Chasing Amy. Like, sometimes I Like, you know, like I said, it's been a long time. A lot of things have happened. But I always look back at that time. My life is so formative to me, and how much of that he's responsible for.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. We think of all the shit we did back there, like, the cons and, like, you know, even, like, working at the office. Just the. Like, such a good group of people that we had. We would go to the movies, we go out to eat, you know, like. Yeah, it was. It was pretty cool.

[A]

Yeah, it was a real. It was like a social. I mean, I was always a low man on the totem pole back then, which wasn't fun. But I was also a fucking idiot kid. You know, why wouldn't I be? You know, why wouldn't I be?

[B]

Remember we moved the office, right, one time? We moved the office one time from three Harding across the street, kind of. And Sal helped us. This is pre Joker. So Sal was looking for a couple extra bucks, and Sal helped us. And he parked his car under a tree.

[A]

Oh, all those bird shit.

[B]

I've never seen so much bird shit on one car in my entire life. I was like. He comes out, he's like, what the wild.

[A]

It was. It was like we fucked with him.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And poured fake bird shit all over his car.

[B]

I've never seen anything like it.

[A]

I have never seen anything like that. It's funny. Sal on set. Sal, we're having a lot of fun this season. This has been, like, a really fun season. And we were just sitting around bullshit and laughing the other day, and he brought up again slamming his car. His fingers in the car door in New Orleans.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

He brought it up. And I was just starting to laugh, and I started going, open the door.

[B]

Open the door.

[A]

He's like, my fingers were still in the fucking door. It was closed on my fingers. And Brian Johnson's making fun of me already.

[B]

I think back, I think it's so evil.

[A]

And that story, I go, dude, this is the guy who, after I got into a car accident, I walked into the store, and the first thing he said was, like, if I suck dick in a car, I'm supposed to be in the passenger seat, not the driver's seat.

[B]

Car's flipped over. Car flipped over.

[A]

It's on its side. I'm wandering in, like, hurt, like, what am I doing? Am I calling an ambulance? What am I doing? And you're like, you. Yeah, you don't suck dick when you drive a car.

[B]

I'd like to think that I've Softened

[A]

over the years, but it was fun, you know? You know, everybody laughed. I mean, Moser fucking laughed. Walt laughed. It wasn't like. It wasn't like. It wasn't funny.

[B]

Yeah. I remember you coming in and looking like, dazed, like, what the just happened?

[A]

Yeah. No sympathy.

[B]

No. None. Yeah, none. Oh, would you flip your car? It's a girl's car anyway.

[A]

Yeah, it was. It wasn't a girl's car. That was. That was the. It was a Honda. Okay, you're talking about the Plymouth laser. It wasn't. Yeah, and it didn't flip. It just went up, almost flipped, and

[B]

it slammed back down on its side.

[A]

Yeah, but. But Sal started telling that story on set. It was making me laugh. He's like. Because I hear people laughing and I'm trying to get my car. The car door.

[B]

Yeah. Mary Beth will still sometimes, like, if. If, like, there's a New York accent, she'll be like, open the door. Open the door.

[A]

Oh, yeah, she brings it out.

[B]

Yeah. She'll bring it up sometimes.

[A]

That's how friends. That's how dudes make friends.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How we used to.

[B]

Yeah. If it happened to me, I would expect nothing less from you guys.

[A]

Well, now I'd be afraid you really hurt yourself.

[B]

Yes. Now it'd be different.

[A]

Oh, shit. Are we losing them?

[B]

Yeah, he's gone. He's gone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This guy also wants to know a secret question. I don't even know if. I don't think you've revealed the answer. The Star Trek guy who said to you, I don't watch your show.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. I really don't want to. I don't want to put the guy on blast. No, because he's. He is. And by the way, I've met him again and he's. He wasn't much better. But I don't want to be the guy that's like this guy, you know? So I'll keep that to myself for now. After he passes. I will.

[B]

Yeah. Then you'll reveal it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Piece of shit. He is.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not saying he's a piece of shit, you know, I just. He was. It was. It was. Odd choices all around.

[B]

We have Tobias, a UK ant.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

The 10 year anniversary show is understandably canceled and Walt still has an aversion to flying. But can we expect the space monkeys to come back to the UK for some shows anytime soon? You are missed and wanted, not opposed. I'm not opposed either, but I don't know. The UK seems to be in shambles I'm not sure. Like, September, I hope. Aria, be careful, man.

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

Every time I. Every time I look online, it's like there's riots and there's fights and there's all kinds of shit going on.

[A]

I mean, it's a major. I'm sure. It's like you could turn that camera to another street and everything's fine.

[B]

Everything's fine. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think that's, like. To me, that strikes me as, like, very selected, content to position things a certain way. I'll tell you, I was on Canal Street, Manhattan this week, and I was like, well, it's fucking pretty good.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

A couple years, I went to Canal and it was like, what the fuck? Third World market? Am I in right now?

[B]

Oh, they cleaned it up.

[A]

It seemed. It seemed like New York to me again.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah. So, I don't know. I think it's all just. What do I know?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

But I'm going. I'm going in September.

[B]

Oh, cool.

[A]

Yeah, I like London.

[B]

Yeah. You're a London guy. Yeah, several times.

[A]

Yeah. I like the uk.

[B]

I liked it when I went. When we went there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's our first time. That was really fun.

[A]

I would do another show there. Yeah.

[B]

All right, we'll talk about it.

[A]

We'll talk about it.

[B]

We'll talk about it. Maybe we'll get out there. I'm in the process of getting divorced. She cheated on me and I was willing to forgive her. It's nice, but not a good idea. I've forgiven cheaters before. It never works.

[A]

It's not a great idea.

[B]

No. I caught her a second time.

[A]

That's why it wasn't a great idea the first time.

[B]

Yep. And that's where I told her I needed time. So we separated. In early March of this year, she moved away with her sister. I recently found out she is still in contact with the guy she cheated on me with. I started the divorce process, but I need help getting over her. I'm hurting every day. I started antidepressants and therapy, which I've never been on in my life, and it's destroying me. I know she's evil. How do I get over her?

[A]

Well, first of all, she's not evil. There's reasons why she's making those decisions that we'll never understand. She's definitely unfaithful. She's definitely a fucking backstabber.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

But evil's a stretch.

[B]

Yeah. Unless he's not including some evil stuff she's done. But, yeah, this is like. This is very typical.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cheating, separation type stuff. Yeah.

[A]

My advice to you would be like. But it's. You know, you got to learn. It's. This is no longer about her at all. This is about you, pal. This is like. Like she's not making you feel this way. She's not making you heartbroken. She's not. It's the absence of her that's making you feel this way. Like, you. My advice to you would be like, you owe nothing to her. You are. This is about you. You need to focus on yourself. You need to be comfortable in your skin. I'm sure I've given this before, but, like, this is just who you are now. You got fucked over. You know, you probably feel stupid because you gave her another chance and then she took advantage of that again. It's just like, you didn't do the wrong thing. People deserve second chances sometimes. In this instance, I would have told you not to, but you didn't do anything wrong. But you have to just accept that you're heartbroken. This is what it's going to be. You got, I would say, five or six rough months ahead of you, but you just got to do it, bud. You just got to. You just got to be okay. Because there's probably some loyalty in this gentleman to her still. Oh, I love her. I. You know, I still care about her and all the good times and everything that we went through, and I'm throwing all that at. Dude, none of that shit's gonna matter the second you're over her. None of that shit's gonna matter.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that day's coming. So just accept that you're heartbroken, you know. You know, as much as you could tamp down the anger at her, do it because it's not ultimately not gonna be helpful. And she didn't really do anything unusual. People cheat on people all the fucking time.

[B]

Yeah. Even when they're given second chances.

[A]

Yeah, people just do it, man. It's. It's. I don't think human wired for monogamy and hearing that ladies, I just don't think they are. And it's like, you know, she might had some weird kink that you weren't into. I mean, it could be a billion reasons that have nothing to do with you.

[B]

And she just didn't tell him. Like, that could have been it.

[A]

Like, she didn't tell or he wasn't open to it. Look, you know what I mean? Or she tried to tell him. The point is, like, you just don't know what you do know is that you're in a tremendous amount of pain. You probably still love this person, and you're. You're trapped in that. Which is all. Okay. Like, that's fine. Just accept that that's where you are right now and just move on. Just. Just get out. Just get out and get away from her.

[B]

Well, therapy's a good idea.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I think therapy, like, talking it through helps. Not. Maybe not obsessing on it. Like, I wouldn't, you know, think of it 24 7, but I think therapy is a good idea. The antidepressants, they may help, you know.

[A]

You know, they may help me over the years.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. I always say to people, like, if you think about what goes on in your own head all day, the chaos, the. The. The shifting thoughts. She's having them too. And she just sometimes needed dick, bro. It just happens.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, the. The flip side is like, okay, you're divorced, but now you're out there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now you're. Now you're gonna be the one getting some pussy.

[A]

Sure will.

[B]

You know, and you're not gonna have to think about her or her bullshit. Look, we've all. I don't know, most of us, I would think, have been through something similar. Maybe not getting divorced, maybe not being married.

[A]

No. But heartbreak's.

[B]

Heartbreak. Heartbreak. Getting cheated on. Getting cheated on multiple times and physically abused. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's happened to me. Got hit with a door.

[B]

Got hit the head with a door. Goddamn bitch took it. Yeah.

[A]

Not really. That was kind of the end.

[B]

Was that the beginning point?

[A]

That was near the end. Yeah. But it was the same thing. It was like, well, you know, in this girl's particular case, you know, I found out later that she had gotten molested as a child and. And, you know, it kind of rewired parts of her brain and, you know, and you come up with all these excuses, but at the end of the day, she fucking hit me with a door.

[B]

Yeah, that's. I found myself making many, many excuses in my life. I don't know why I look back and I'm just like, yeah, like, what was going through my head at the time that I wasn't like, I'm out. I'm out.

[A]

Your own problems. The. The. Yeah, there's the. That was put into you growing up. Made you that person. To take that.

[B]

To take that level of.

[A]

That level of.

[B]

Yeah. It's only. It's only when you're like, you know what? I'm not going to take this level of anymore. Like, you have to. You have to defeat that wiring. You have to rewire.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's what this guy needs to do, is just like, don't worry about him. Don't worry about her. Don't worry about the guy she's with. That's like. That's something totally separate.

[A]

The last thing you should worry about is the guy that she was with. He's got nothing on you, dude.

[B]

And it's probably gonna happen to him, too.

[A]

Oh, definitely. I mean, I remember, like, if I'd gotten cheated on, like, a lot of my anger was directed towards the guy. And now I'm old enough to be like, it's got nothing to do with him.

[B]

Nothing. Yeah. What loyalty does he owe me?

[A]

None.

[B]

Yeah. None.

[A]

Fucking none. And he's just a guy getting his dick wet, man.

[B]

And I would be lying to say if I weren't, at some points, that guy.

[A]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[B]

I was the guy.

[A]

Fuck. I mean, yeah, you were the guy. Many times I went to a regrettable peer. Well, for me, it was more like. I thought a lot about this over the years of being like. It ensured that things couldn't go any further.

[B]

Right.

[A]

In fact, it ensured that things had to be kept absolutely quiet. You know what I mean? And that was the more attractive part of it to me. I was like, all right, this can't go anywhere. So I'm free to just have as much fun as I want with this without any expectations of it moving forward.

[B]

Yeah. And you're not going to get into a situation where the girl's, like, threatening you all of a sudden, like, oh, you know, if you, like, you try to break it off or something.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, right. I was never really worried about that. But you're right. Yeah. There's zero drama unless he finds out, which also happened to me, you know? But regrettable. Regrettable behavior for sure. But I understand it now, at least. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is wisdom and time and. Yeah, buddy. It's got none. Yeah. Don't sweat the guy. The guy is just a guy. He's just a faceless dude. He's just a fucking dude with the same fucking issues that the rest of us have. Like, it's not worth getting upset about, even though. Easier said than done. But just commit to having five shitty months. Get the divorce. Stay away from her. Don't romanticize it.

[B]

Don't think about the happy times, by

[A]

the way, like, I'm friends with female that I think are great people that have cheated on their boyfriend. You know what I mean? Like, it's. Everything's so messy. Just fucking. Yeah. Just commit to no five months. So you're gonna have five months of hell, and then you'll be fine.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. Because what it's gonna take is time.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

That's what it's gonna take, is just time. And then you're gonna be like, I don't give a fuck about this bitch anymore. In fact, I'm glad she's out of my life.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I wish it had happened sooner.

[A]

And then one day, you're like, you run it to her and maybe you guys have one last fuck. You never know.

[B]

You never know.

[A]

Stranger things have happened.

[B]

Could happen.

[A]

But you're in a shitty spot, bud. But if you just don't feel stupid, don't blame yourself. Don't get too caught up on who this other guy is. Don't think that you lost something special because you didn't. Because you never had something special because she was cheating on you the whole fucking time. Like, just don't think like that, man. You just gotta. You just gotta accept reality. Easier said than done.

[B]

But you gotta do it.

[A]

Gotta do it.

[B]

It's tough. It's a hard road.

[A]

Yeah. I've had my heart broken. Sucks. There's nothing worse. I had my heart broken so bad once. I remember. I think I've told this story before on the show. Like, just like, being on the floor in my living room, in my apartment at the time, and literally, like, chewing at the carpet. Like, I was just so. Just like, heartbroken and lost. So. We all been there, pal. You'll get over it.

[B]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know if there's, like. I. I don't know. I don't know if there's a person that you're like, I absolutely cannot live without them. Boyfriend? Girlfriend? Wife. Husband.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I get being. I. I get the. The loving relationship that people have. I get like, you know, the. The need to be. To be with them. But ultimately, man, it's like, people die. People cheat. People do this, people do that. It's like you can go on without a person. Oh, yeah. And like, this, where the person is, like, actively contributing to, like, negativity in your life and making you feel bad and making you feel this way. So you have to go to therapy and go on antidepressants. That's not a person who's worth it.

[A]

No. No, not at all.

[B]

No.

[A]

You just gotta. You just gotta. Just gotta get through it. But the Only way through it is through it and everything you're feeling is normal and just deal with it. Just go through it.

[B]

Do it. Just do it. Let's see.

[A]

It's gonna be a good story one day, I promise you that.

[B]

Yeah. Sit there with your buddies and talk about what a fucking cunt she is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That makes you feel better?

[A]

Fuck yeah. You think she's not saying that about him?

[B]

Yeah. And don't be one of those guys that, like, starts getting, like, protective because other guys are talking shit about her. Because if they never liked her and they're like, hey, man, you know what? I never really liked her to begin with. Think about that. Yeah, Think about that and be like, wow, I didn't see it, but they did.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So next time you have a girl, you know, maybe.

[A]

And don't take it out on the next girl.

[B]

Take.

[A]

Cheat on her.

[B]

Yeah. Take it out on her. Evil to women. This guy's got a big problem. My name is John and I'm 25. I've been listening since I was 18. My problem is my wife and I have been together since they were 19 and married since they were 23, and he hasn't been getting any. It's not attraction. It's not attraction or loss of love. Just been too busy and she's been stressed. What do I do? Help first off, work on that stress for her. Get her a massage. Do something to help her out, like alleviate that stress. If you can.

[A]

If you can.

[B]

Yeah. If it's like, stress at work, I don't know. I don't know what you can do.

[A]

You know, I've always found.

[B]

Get her the massage, I guess works good is.

[A]

And I know people have a resistance to this, but I always found that, like, I know, look, I know it's not going to sound great, but you just got to schedule sex. You just got to be like, this is an issue. Look, you're in your 20s. This. It doesn't get better than what you're going to have right now. Like, this is it, buddy. Like, this is. This is downhill from here. Just got to be like, look, I. And whether we're in, like this Saturday, we're going to. To have sex, you just have to do it. And because the second do, you're going to be like, oh, yeah, that was. I love this. Why, why, why did we stop? You know?

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's just habit. It's really just habit.

[B]

And one thing that a mentality this guy has to adopt is that you are never too busy for pussy. Never too Busy. No, I know he says he's too busy here, but no, you got to make time for that pussy.

[A]

And that's. I think the scheduling helps with too, because, like, even if Saturday, one or two things is gonna happen as that Saturday night approaches, you're gonna be like, looking forward to it and maybe that or you're going to be like, I committed to this. I got to do this. And you're going to get through it. Either way, the effect is going to be the same. Both going to get laid. You're both going to feel better. And it just removes that fear of like, I'm not getting laid. I'm not getting laid. I'm not getting laid. So I would say just like, just sit down. You got to have these conversations. You got to schedule it. You just got to schedule it.

[B]

Yeah. Once, twice, three times a week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and then and truly, like, if she's all stressed out, it should help with the stress. Yeah.

[A]

It's always helped me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be my advice. You can't rely on passion to carry a sex life. You just can't.

[B]

No.

[A]

Because you just can't have the same passion for someone five years on.

[B]

I've been married going on six years now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With her for 10.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just had a discussion last night.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

About passion and sex times and being attracted and all that other. Not. Not in a bad way.

[A]

No. These are the conversations you have to have. Right. When you're in a relationship.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And it's good. But I do think you better start putting out more.

[B]

That was.

[A]

Oh, that was a conversation. Oh, it was your side. You were asking for more passion.

[B]

I need more passion.

[A]

That's not how I thought that conversation went. Yeah. Maybe Ash versus Evil Dead and ordering a pizza right afterwards isn't the way, but yeah, it's. I would say try the scheduling, man. I. I know it sounds lame, but in practice. It's better in practice than it is in theory. I found.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. All right. This is a.

[A]

But also, look at her body and realize that it ain't going to look the same in 10 years. And I ain't gonna look at the same 10 years after that. And it won't look the same. 10 years. You are in the years that you're gonna look back and be like, if I had one more crack at that fucking 20 something year old body on air, I would love it. You're in it. You're in the moment. Pretend you're a time traveler yourself from the future in your own body. Now being like, holy shit, I gotta the crack of this tight young thing. Mm.

[B]

Yeah. You don't want to wait.

[A]

You don't wanna wait.

[B]

I wait until you're in your 50s like me, then they're not gonna watch you at all. They look at you, flabby, wrinkly, defeated,

[A]

old pizza sauce in your beer.

[B]

I'm like, I do. Why didn't anybody tell me?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they got married pretty young, man.

[B]

Yeah. That is young.

[A]

That's young.

[B]

Especially since they were dating from like 19, you know? Yeah. It's like. And then nobody else until you're married, and then.

[A]

I can't. I can't. I've seen it work. I've seen it work. I have some guys in my firehouse that married their high school sweethearts and they're definitely doing pretty good. I don't think it could ever work for me.

[B]

No. Mine's dead, so that wouldn't have worked.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I needed. I needed a collection of perverts and freaks to come and teach me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And luckily I had those ladies.

[B]

Yeah. You really want to get some sort of. Some sort of experience?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

In life, you know, I think prior to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Getting married so young and I think so.

[A]

I mean, I recall the feeling in my 20s of. Of having a woman try something in bed and being like, what? What?

[B]

This is awesome.

[A]

You know, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Like, I could teach this going forward. This is part of my repertoire now.

[B]

Yeah. Now you're the guy.

[A]

Yeah. Teaching that. Now I'm getting credit for the movies.

[B]

This lady. This is a good question for you.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

29 year old, 13 percenter from the UK.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[B]

Lauren. 11 years listening, and she bows to our superior knowledge.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right, we'll see. She's at that age where she wants to decide if she wants kids or not. As one child, free guy and the other father by choice. What are your opinions? I'm married to a great guy. We have good paying jobs, and I love bumming around, getting high, playing video games, sleeping until noon. And I think having kid changes all that. But while I regret not doing it helped me make the biggest decision of my life. Now, what I've heard in the past is, like, a lot of times the people. The reason that people have kids is they're like, I don't want to die alone.

[A]

Yeah. That never held water on me.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If I have to die alone. And you know what? We all die alone anyway. Even if we're fucking Surrounded by people.

[A]

You have no idea what's going to happen in your life. A nuclear bomb could go off and kill us all.

[B]

Yeah. You're trying to play your video games with your kid bugging you. Next thing you know, you're incinerated. Vaporized. It seems to me, Lauren, like, you already know the answer.

[A]

Yeah. She's not saying she's afraid or nervous to have kids. She's just listening to things that she can't do anymore.

[B]

Yeah. And you're not listening. You're not listing any of the good points to having cats.

[A]

And I will say this if it makes you feel better, Lauren, I have never regretted. I have never had a single second in my life where I've wanted kids or now that it's clear I'm not having them. I've never had a moment of just like, oh, what it would have been like. I've always been like, I do not want kids.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Never wanted them. As I remember being fucking 13 and talking to my parents and then being like, you'll change your mind. If that's the way you feel and you know it, I think you're fine. I mean, you're married, so I think what your husband thinks probably matters a lot more than what I have superior knowledge.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Like, what if he does want kids? Like, well, then what's the answer? Either they're gonna go their separate ways, or she's gonna have kids.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, if you're 29 and you're already like, I don't know, I. I would. I would lean towards. No. And look, I. I got into a situation where, like, I didn't want kids either. I would have never had kids. I liked living my life the way I did, going the cons and, you know, doing whatever I wanted to do at any time. And I still enjoy doing that. But I can't now.

[A]

You can't.

[B]

And I would be lying if I were to say there aren't times where I'm like, what would my life have been if I hadn't taken St. John, you know?

[A]

Right.

[B]

And there are some things that would have been better.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

You know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would have a lot more money.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, because I'm raising a kid, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And continue to raise. She's 20, but, you know. You know, she acts like a kid, but every time I like, you know, you're a good kid, she'll be like, dad, I'm not a kid. I'm an adult. Always reminds me.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, but her life wouldn't have been better.

[B]

No. And that's what I have to remember.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that her? That. It was. It was for her. It wasn't really for me.

[A]

It was for her. And you sacrificed a lot for it.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I took a look and I'm like, all right, this is a little kid. Not only a little kid, a little two year old, but a special needs two year old who needs, like, that extra attention and that extra, like, little oomph to, like, you know, get her going in different avenues of her life. And I'm like, I don't think my sister is the one to do that right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she wasn't. She wasn't the person to do that.

[A]

You deserve a lot of credit for, man. Because, like, it. I don't think a lot of people would necessarily have made that decision. And like, that's where, like, I know people get on you on the podcast sometimes and you lost your Teflon shield. And like, they don't like some of the things you say, but, like, if you look at that alone says something about you that's like, I don't know, pretty. Pretty great. Pretty great. I think you're pretty great all around.

[B]

No, thank you. Likewise.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. It's a weird one. I dated a woman in my 30s who was very smart and very feminist, but not in, like, the roll your eyes kind of way. Like real life.

[B]

I hate men.

[A]

Yeah. And she said that. She said that she does. When she meets women who are older who don't have kids, it does seem like they're missing something.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

She. You know, I would surprise me coming from her, but I don't really have any experience with it. I just know I never want the kids.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I think if you're even on the fence, probably you shouldn't have them.

[A]

Well, I don't know, because I think being on the fence is probably a normal reaction to thinking it through. Right?

[B]

Yeah, I guess you're right. Yeah, I guess so. I just feel like if I'm, like, even questioning something, I'm probably not gonna lean in that direction, you know, because it's not like, should I get a blue car or should I get a gray car?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, like, the gray car is a little bit cheaper, but the blue car is what I really like. It's like, it is something that you're gonna live with. Like, this is the rest of your life now.

[A]

Yeah. And it's not even your life because the second you have a kid, it's. It's really not about you anymore. It's like that and I never had the one. I just never had the desire. There's just some in me. I never had the desire. But beyond that, I didn't think I'd be good at it. You know, Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe if I had a kid, it would have been the fucking greatest thing ever. But I don't care. It doesn't matter to me.

[B]

Yeah, no, I mean, look, I love Sage and I like, I wouldn't change anything that I did. But again, there are times that I sit there and I'm like, what would it have been? Like, where would I be right now? What would I be doing?

[A]

But really, what would you have been doing?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I mean, how much better would it

[B]

would have got sitting around without Sage?

[A]

Yeah, it's like, how much better would it. I mean, we've learned how life just kind of drags on until it's over.

[B]

It's true.

[A]

So who knows?

[B]

Cat owner advice. Oh, do a couple more and then we'll say peace, assholes. I spoke to you guys on one of the last call in shows about his dog that died. The advice he needs now is much less. Said he adopted his first cat last Friday and would love any and all first time cat owner advice.

[A]

Huh. That's interesting.

[B]

Yeah. Cats are, I gotta say, man, cats are way different than dogs. Cats are very self sufficient and yeah, you know, they, they don't, I don't think they command the level. I mean, at least the cats that I have don't command that level of affection and attention that dogs do.

[A]

Huh. I, I would say my advice would be clean the litter box twice a day. Just do it. Your whole house will be better for it. The cat will be better for it. And I don't know, I'd get a second cat.

[B]

I would say second cat.

[A]

Two cats have hardly more work than one.

[B]

I agree with that. Yeah.

[A]

And it's. I think it's better for the cat.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

So I would say get two, but on the litter box is a big one. And trim the nails, trim the claws is basic maintenance, I think is the thing with cats.

[B]

Or get them a hell of a scratching post. We have like on our banisters, we have this like twine that's with that wrapped around so the cats scratch that because two of. Well, there's only two cats left. Neither one of them will let you near their nails. Like we have to bring them to the vet to get them.

[A]

Oh, wow. Really?

[B]

Yeah, it's Crazy.

[A]

Okay, So I don't have that problem. Yeah, I buy cheap furniture. Like, I have a really nice house, but when you get inside it, it's all fucking ikea. All of it. Like, across the board. I think the most expensive piece of furniture I have is that fucking burrow couch that I got, because they're just gonna scratch the shit out of it. And there's something to not caring, just being like a. Fuck it. It's an IKEA chair. Let him scratch the shit out of it for a year, and then I'll just get another one. Same thing with carpets and stuff. Like, I buy carpets off Amazon and shit. But, yeah, that would be it. I would say. Just stay on that litter box. Man, you will thank me if you get in the habit of doing that litter box every morning and every night. I had to learn that the hard way. Yeah, yeah, because, like, sometimes it would. Like, they would piss outside the litter box or.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You let it go a little bit too long, and you're gonna be. You're gonna be paying for it.

[A]

Yeah, just do it twice a day. That'd be my advice.

[B]

Play with him, pay attention to him. Get him really socialized.

[A]

Yeah. Get him out of the house. That's what I did with Boris. He's more comfortable out of the house, which I'm glad for.

[B]

How do you mean? Like, you let him walk around?

[A]

No, I have. I have one of those fucking backpacks that the cat could go into and, like, look around and stuff. I have a stroller that I could put him in and walk around the fucking neighborhood. I'll do that. You know, I bring them to Key west, you know, boy, he comes on the plane with me and stuff like that. That's made life easier. But honestly, just the litter box would be the most important thing.

[B]

There you go. All right, let's see. We'll get a couple. Wow. A lot of people in addiction and depression and stuff.

[A]

Oh, that's our brand.

[B]

Hello there, long timer here. A few years ago, I was hit by a car. Chronic pain is a huge thing. Pain meds and social anxiety meds are my life these days. Since then, my legal case was sentenced. Did okay, but with my limitations and new money and pain problems, I've been drinking my face off.

[A]

Whoops.

[B]

I'm stuck in a cycle and fucking it all up. I'm 47 now. Not working. I'm confused and lost. What should I do to not entirely fuck it up? Any help or advice would be helpful. Oh, and between COVID lockdowns and the accident. I have been with a woman for eight years. Oh, I haven't been with any woman for eight years. I'm a mess. Seriously. A neurodivergent mangled Canadian. Whoa, buddy.

[A]

It's a lot, but I feel this pain. There are things, buddy, that I want to change about myself that I seem fucking incapable of changing. I don't know why I. I don't eat better. I don't know why I don't work out more. I don't know why I don't write more. Like, I think with me, it might be like a comfortable nest syndrome. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not really hungry in terms of career anymore or anything like that. But I should not fucking. I should not look like what I look like.

[B]

I don't know. You want. You don't look that bad to me.

[A]

I. But I appreciate that. But I don't feel like I know I could be better. So I understand it, but I think this is one step at a time. But, like. Like, do. You can't tackle all the. You can't look at the whole photo and be like, I am a fuck up. How do I fix all of this?

[B]

Right? Like, mind your money. First of all, be very careful with the money that you. That you won for the. The Don't. Don't piss it away on alcohol and drugs and bullshit. So be careful of that. The drinking. Just slow it down, you know? Like, if you're drinking a lot, drink a little less one day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Drink a little less the day after. I'm unclear.

[A]

Is he saying he's alcoholic or he's just drinking too much because he's in a period? That's what it sounds like, right?

[B]

With the limitations and new money and pain problems. I've been drinking my face off. I'm stuck in a cycle, and I'm it all.

[A]

How old is he?

[B]

47.

[A]

Dude, you're at that point where you got this. Yeah. If you were in your 20s, even early 30s, I'd be like, all right, bud. You know, we all go through it, but you're at that age, pal, where it's like, it's not great, right?

[B]

That was around that age. Yeah, yeah, I was around that age when I was. When I was doing pills and. And same thing. It's like, yeah, you get. You definitely get stuck in a cycle where you're like, I mean, I wasn't working at the time. And, like, that's what I think you need is structure of some kind, whether you. Whether you. Yeah, I mean, I'M not sure how fucked up he is from the pain. Car accident. Well, chronic pain is a huge thing, he says. So I don't know if you can volunteer somewhere, do something like that, you know, even like.

[A]

Yeah, that's structure was a bit.

[B]

It was a big problem, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't have any structure, so it was like I would just sit there and do drugs and watch TV all day.

[A]

Yeah. And that's the thing that this guy.

[B]

I'm not saying it wasn't awesome.

[A]

All roads lead to the same behavior. Right. Right now. So you have to disrupt that behavior somehow. You have to. Look, I'm not gonna sit here and be like, dude, you just got to start going to the gym because that becomes another failure because you're not going to get up and go to the gym. You know what I mean? Then you just feel bad about that. But you gotta. You gotta break out of whatever cycle you're in. You gotta break out of your habits and your behavior. So what does that mean? I know it sounds lame, but like, well, therapy is good if you, if you talk to someone once a week because that's. Is. Ends up a positive direction. But like, you know how many times I wish I joined a fucking book club? I don't know why in my life I haven't joined a book club. It sounds so much fun.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Getting together and like reading books and talking about them and shit like that. I don't know why I never did it.

[B]

Now, would you want to do like a book club or not? Like an online book club where like a zoom type thing?

[A]

I mean, I think it's better in person. Yeah, I think it's better in person. But for me, I'm not suggesting this gentleman. I mean, why not? But I think it's just breaking your. Breaking your cycle, man. You're just doing the same things over. You're treading the same ground over and over again. And drinking. Like, I did a lot of drinking in my day. I never felt great the next day.

[B]

No.

[A]

And the answer for that is more drinking. You know, And I don't know, that's a. That, that's, that's working out for you.

[B]

Well, this is also the mixture of pain meds, anxiety meds, and alcohol is not. Well, while fun is not good.

[A]

Because it doesn't sound like he's having fun.

[B]

No, no, it doesn't sound like he's having any fun at all.

[A]

Yeah, I've had great fun on drugs and alcohol.

[B]

Oh, yeah?

[A]

Yeah. Like got awesome time on it, but it doesn't sound like you're having fun. You got to just small change. You got to go easy on yourself. That's. I think the main advice is always like, you just got to go a little easy on yourself. You can't. And I know I've said this before, but like, if you just ride yourself and tell yourself that you're a fucking loser or that this, the other thing, like you're, you're feeling bad about. You already feel bad about yourself. You already feel like you're not living up to your potential. You already feel like you're not doing things the way that you want to do them. That's the problem. If you start beating yourself up over that, that becomes the problem. You're now hating yourself because of this behavior. And all you've done is compound the misery. So you just have to go easy on yourself. You have to just be like, look, I got, for whatever reason, you don't want to get hit by a car. You didn't fucking get hit by a car. Like, things happen to you. Maybe they react in the, in the best way possible. Okay? Okay, you're human. Welcome to the fucking world. You know what I mean? So it's like you got to get rid of the self loathing. You got to get rid of the anger at yourself, which I know you're feeling. It's useless to you. It's useless to you. You have to look at the patterns. You have to look at the way you're behaving. And you just have to make tiny changes. You're not going to reinvent yourself in a fucking week. You just got to make tiny changes. If you drink every night, hey, man, don't drink Wednesday, right? Make Wednesday the day that you're not drinking. Or even better, drink on the weekends. Just be like, you know what? Saturday, Sunday, I'll have some and don't. But it's just tiny. Tiny changes will add up. But the first thing you got to do is, and it's always helped me most, is you have to go easy on yourself. Don't compound the problem with anger and hate towards yourself because you're the only one in your corner. It sounds like, buddy. And if the guy in your corner is just telling you all that's wrong with you, it's not going to be helpful. You need to be your own Mickey from Rocky.

[B]

That's right, Rocky.

[A]

And not the Mickey that told him he was a bum in the beginning. The Mickey that came in later and was sorry that he called him a bum and helped them Win everything.

[B]

I think you said something key right there. It's like, small changes. Don't look at this whole picture and be like, holy shit, I cannot believe what a fucking loser I am. Because of A, B, C, and D. You can say, I can't believe what a loser I am. Let me try to change A. And then once A's taken care of, it seems like you have some money. So don't worry about the job right now.

[A]

Yeah, great. By the way. That's awesome.

[B]

Yeah. If you can support yourself and you don't have to work, work on other stuff like you said, therapy probably could help. You know, especially. It's like, you know, you're. One day you're. You're, like, normal, and the next day you're. Because you got into a car accident.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a major life change that, like, I think anybody would have a problem adjusting to.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

So it's like, you're not. Like. Even though you may seem alone or you feel alone, you're not alone. There's lots of other people that are in the same boat that, you know. Right.

[A]

And I think I said it two episodes ago, where I'm like, look, and I'm doing okay in life. I. You know, I don't. Like. I don't think I really have anything to point to that I like people. I think most people would look at my life and be like, he's got a. He's got a pretty good. I feel like a piece of 70 of my days. Like, just 70% of my day is walking around just feeling like I've wasted my life, that I'm not doing what I'm meant to do, that I've let people. Like, I think it's just being human. So, you know, you have to keep that in mind. Like, what you're feeling is common, Right?

[B]

Exactly. Yeah. It's not like. It's not unique to you. There's lots of people that feel the way you feel, even if they haven't been in car accidents and on pain meds and drinking their face off. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, trust me, you can walk around feeling like a. All day long without any of that stuff.

[A]

Oh, dude, that. So I bought the bearded lace. So excited.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then, like, three days have gone in and I haven't texted to check on what's going on, and I'm like, am I. Why did I buy the place? What's wrong with me? Like, now I'm not pulling my weight. Meanwhile, there's no weight to pull. It's gotta. You know what I mean? Like, right? Just. You could turn any positive into a negative if you got a mind like mine.

[B]

So you don't even know if it could be like, it's Q again, checking in.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You just don't know. You just don't know. So it's like, you just gotta go easy on yourself with. Take small steps. Don't be your own worst enemy.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Peace.