#685: Aqua Pussy

Summary

Tell 'Em Steve-Dave Episode #685: Aqua Pussy

Date: July 26, 2026
Cast: Bryan Johnson, Walt Flanagan, Brian "Q" Quinn, Gideon/"Get 'Em," Dr. D (special guest)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Tell 'Em Steve-Dave" features the classic banter between Bryan, Walt, Q, and Get 'Em, with recurring guest Dr. D, a physician, joining for in-depth and candid discussions about health, medicine, TV, movies, and plenty of comedic sidebars. The conversation weaves between personal stories, pop culture reviews, medical advice, and insight into the realities of working in healthcare—uncensored, irreverent, and peppered with self-deprecating humor and camaraderie.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Opening Banter: Get 'Em and Maladies

• Get 'Em's Maladies: The cast kicks things off joking about Get 'Em now being "defined by his maladies," referencing previous show lore about health ailments.
  • Quote, Bryan, 00:06: “Get him is defined by his maladies at this point.”

Pop Culture Catch-Up

• TV Reviews:
  • Little House on the Prairie (new version): Bryan is bored and underwhelmed, noting lack of modernization but observing that Laura is "very welcoming and inclusive," even calling her “a liberal. Big time.” (02:46)
  • Game of Thrones/House of the Dragon: Walt notes there's an episode focusing on menstruation and ruling power, calling it something he’d never thought about, and referencing learning from the show.
    • Quote, Walt, 03:12: “There was an entire episode about how hard it is to rule when you have your period… I learned something.”
  • The Odyssey (film): Q and Walt discuss a new adaptation, excited about practical effects, cyclops puppetry, and Matt Damon's performance (04:35–07:21).

Family News

• Bryan’s Niece is Born: Bryan shares that his brother’s partner has given birth to a baby girl named Juniper; jokes about white trash nicknames ensue. This segues to parenting experiences and appropriate timing for exposing newborns to nature and public spaces like Universal Studios. (07:58–10:12)
  • Quote, Bryan, 08:17: “I immediately said I’m gonna call her June Bug… because it’s appropriately white trash.”

Dr. D Joins: Medical Consult & Get 'Em’s Health Updates

Get 'Em's Ongoing Medical Sagas

• Chinese Spine / OPLL: “Still open.” (21:29)
• Enlarged Body Parts / Thyroid Concerns: Dr. D gives advice, emphasizing speed with medical imaging and discouraging at-home solutions.
  • Quote, Dr. D, 24:02: “If you have unilateral swelling anywhere, it needs to be prioritized… expedite getting better pictures.”
• Supplements & Self-Medication: Dr. D warns against taking a ton of OTC supplements unsupervised.
  • Quote, Dr. D, 31:51: “I think that sometimes people can really hurt themselves by just buying things over the counter… you can get toxic off certain things.”

Candid Medical Q&A (Walt, Q, and Panel)

• Cholesterol & Genetics: Discussed as often out of individual control even for healthy athletes, raising the role of new medications and insurance challenges.
  • Quote, Dr. D, 36:28: “Genetics is 50% of the issue.”
• Doctor-Patient Honesty: Dr. D tells stories about patients lying (e.g., anabolic steroids) and the critical nature of honest communication (48:05–50:13):
  • Quote, Dr. D, 49:15: “If you lie to my face, whether you’re my patient, my friend, or my family member, I’m gonna feel a certain way about it. I don’t like liars.”

Doctors, Hospitals & Medical Culture

• Bedside Manner vs. Clinical Detachment: Q and Dr. D discuss how impersonal some doctors are, and how much a positive, comforting vibe matters for anxious patients (46:19–47:16).
  • Quote, Dr. D, 46:55: “I treat people the way they treat me… if someone disrespects me, then it’s game over.”
• Hospital Culture: Dr. D confirms that “clicks” exist between surgeons and non-surgical doctors; surgeons are often viewed as “pompous,” but the teamwork is critical.
  • Quote, Dr. D, 56:06: “It’s not in a bad way, but… medicine people are more the nerdy people… surgeons… tend to be a little rough around the edges and pompous at times.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote or Moment | |-----------|---------|----------------| | 03:12 | Walt | "There was an entire episode about how hard it is to rule when you have your period, so it was cool. It was like I learned something. I didn’t realize that..." | | 08:17 | Bryan | "I immediately said I'm gonna call [her] June Bug. That's my nickname. ...because it's appropriately white trash." | | 24:02 | Dr. D | "If you have unilateral swelling anywhere, it needs to be prioritized because… you don’t want to have any compression on your airway..." | | 31:51 | Dr. D | "I think that sometimes people can really hurt themselves by just buying things over the counter... you really could harm yourself." | | 36:28 | Dr. D | "Genetics is 50% of the issue." | | 46:55 | Dr. D | "I treat people the way they treat me… if someone disrespects me, then it's game over." | | 49:15 | Dr. D | "If you lie to my face, whether you're my patient, my friend, or my family member, I'm gonna feel a certain way about it. I don't like liars." | | 56:06 | Dr. D | "It’s not in a bad way, but… medicine people are more the nerdy people… surgeons… tend to be a little rough around the edges and pompous at times." | | 75:34 | Dr. D | "[In the ICU] those are the sickest of the sick… times where I was successful in bringing them back, I feel like that was, like, [my best moment]." | | 83:44 | Dr. D | "You get better at giving bad news, but you can’t sugarcoat life and death." | | 104:43 | Dr. D | "I mean, I wouldn't agree with [that changing]." [On hospital romances and affairs still happening.] |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:06–02:58: Opening chat and pop culture segment: Get 'Em’s maladies, TV show recaps
• 07:58–10:12: Personal/family stories: Bryan’s niece’s birth, nicknames, parenting, and vacationing with infants
• 20:12–27:00: Get 'Em’s medical issues, thyroid, and supplement debate with Dr. D
• 31:51–36:28: Self-medication, supplement dangers, discussion of cholesterol and family genetics
• 46:00–50:00: Bedside manner, honesty in doctor-patient relationship, patients lying (testosterone anecdote)
• 56:00–62:09: Hospital social structure, surgery culture, surgeon vs. doctor dynamics
• 75:01–77:57: Dr. D’s “best moment” in medicine, resuscitating patients, “code blue” stories
• 83:44–84:52: Delivering bad news to families, importance of honesty, emotional challenges
• 104:29–105:38: Hospital relationships: doctors, nurses, janitors—“everybody hits on everybody”

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Additional Highlights

• Cons & Celebrity Conventions: The guys discuss attending conventions, guest lineups that now include internet meme celebrities and lawyers, and mention a Joey Fatone proposal in the works (16:32–19:23).
• Medical Q&A Potpourri: Listener-submitted or cast health questions including "hairy tongue" disease, aquagenic urticaria (water allergy), taking sleeping pills, bowel prep, and poop-mailable test kits, always spiked with crude humor and personal confessions.
• Medical School Stories: Dr. D recalls gallows humor and camaraderie among caregivers (paramedics, doctors, nurses) as a way to handle the trauma of the job, confirming “Scrubs” is the most accurate hospital sitcom.

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Tone & Style

The episode brims with TESD’s signature blend of irreverent wit, self-mockery, and sharp observations about real life, health, and “nerd” culture. Medical issues are handled frankly but with warmth, courtesy of Dr. D, whose plainspoken advice provides both laughs and real insight.

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Summary Takeaway

This installment of Tell 'Em Steve-Dave is a rollicking mix of nerd culture reviews, personal life updates, health quagmires, and inside-the-hospital tales. Dr. D’s presence elevates the episode with expert commentary, but the group never strays far from their roots: dishing out jokes, brutal honesty, and the unfiltered banter that fans love.

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Tell 'Em Steve-Dave!

Transcript

[Bryan Johnson]

Get him is defined by his maladies at this point. Like when you think get him, you

[Walt Flanagan]

think gouting around your asshole while you're asleep. There was an entire episode about how hard it is to rule when you have your period.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, boy.

[Walt Flanagan]

So it was cool. It was like I learned something I didn't realize.

[Q]

You didn't think it would be. Tell him, Steve Dave.

[Bryan Johnson]

Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of. Tell him, Steve Dave. I look around this table, I see so many beautiful people. Q. Hello, gorgeous.

[Walt Flanagan]

Thank you, Walt.

[Bryan Johnson]

Stunning.

[Q]

Thank you.

[Gideon]

Get him how you stank it.

[Bryan Johnson]

You're here. Magnificent and special guest, Dr. D. Dr. D. Hello.

[Walt Flanagan]

Hello.

[Bryan Johnson]

There you go.

[Q]

Welcome back.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yes.

[Dr. D]

Thank you.

[Bryan Johnson]

I'm not gonna give her any adjectives or adverbs. She's married. I don't want that, you know, coming after me. He's got muscles.

[Walt Flanagan]

It's wisdom.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah. So. Well, you had a plan for today, but you want to get through a couple things first.

[Gideon]

Sure.

[Bryan Johnson]

Any good stories from your doordashing or have you stopped?

[Q]

The weather has been so bad lately that I only been on a couple runs because I keep getting these tornado warnings and doordash will even suspend your time because they don't want to be. Have people out on the road, so

[Bryan Johnson]

they want to be accountable.

[Q]

So I was just like, you know, I have kind of taken my foot off the gas since I got back from Florida. Got to get back into the swing of things.

[Bryan Johnson]

It's hard once you're on vacation. You're like, I gotta go back to that shit.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Q]

Yeah, definitely.

[Walt Flanagan]

Huh.

[Bryan Johnson]

All right, what else we got here? Let's see. I've been watching Little House on the Prairie, the new one.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, how's it going?

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, my God. Does it suck? It's so boring. I've been comparing notes with Frank. Yeah, Frank watched the whole thing. I'm on episode eight, so I got one episode. So unless they pack seven episodes worth of action into this last episode, I'm going to be sorely disappointed again. Frank was like, well, they're probably just setting up for, you know, their time in Walnut Grove. I'm like, an entire season.

[Q]

Right.

[Bryan Johnson]

Like, they had a flu epidemic. Zero drama to it, though, is it?

[Walt Flanagan]

Follow the beats of the.

[Bryan Johnson]

Of the books.

[Walt Flanagan]

Of the books, I believe. Okay. So they don't add in new characters to modernize it or anything like that? Like, it's.

[Bryan Johnson]

No, I haven't seen any real modernization.

[Walt Flanagan]

Nice.

[Bryan Johnson]

I haven't seen anything like that. I haven't really learned any lessons. Although Laura is definitely A liberal. Big time. Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, a wild West.

[Bryan Johnson]

Or modern, I would say. I would say even modern.

[Walt Flanagan]

Really?

[Bryan Johnson]

Give her so far as modern. Yeah, she's very welcoming and inclusive.

[Walt Flanagan]

There's not anything that would have made me watch it, but now I think I'll watch it.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

That sounds refreshing.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah. That's what you need in your life.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, that's my favorite thing. When you watch Game of Thrones.

[Bryan Johnson]

No, I have not watched Game of Thrones.

[Walt Flanagan]

The new one's just great.

[Bryan Johnson]

Is that dragon?

[Q]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

House of Dragons.

[Bryan Johnson]

House of Dragons. The season of it.

[Q]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

This is the third.

[Bryan Johnson]

Okay.

[Walt Flanagan]

But there was an entire episode about how hard it is to rule when you have your period, so it was cool. It was like I learned something. I didn't realize that you didn't think it would be. No, I guess I just never thought about that before. Walter. And now.

[Bryan Johnson]

Now Walter's a God.

[Q]

Ben had to deal with that shit. Kingston have to deal.

[Walt Flanagan]

That's. Why do you think I'm saying this? I learned something and I never thought about when I was watching Game of Thrones before, what it would be like.

[Gideon]

What do they call that in the Game of Thrones universe?

[Walt Flanagan]

I don't remember.

[Gideon]

Something.

[Walt Flanagan]

I'll go rewatch it.

[Dr. D]

I'm just curious. I've never seen it. What are they. What is the explanation for the non being not being able to rule during that time?

[Walt Flanagan]

No, no, no, no. I didn't say. I didn't say she couldn't rul. I said it's more difficult.

[Dr. D]

I want to know why it's more difficult.

[Q]

I found it's harder on. Definitely on me when the person who rules my house happens to be in that stage.

[Bryan Johnson]

I'm like, oh, maybe I don't rule after all.

[Q]

I'm learning in the servants room.

[Walt Flanagan]

So much so. So much so. I think they accidentally included a battle between men last night. I was shocked. I was like, whoa. I forgot this happened in this show. So.

[Bryan Johnson]

Wow.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, I did like Game of Thrones, so I'll give it a try. I didn't watch oh, boy. Oh, no. Oh, boy.

[Q]

I saw the Odyssey.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, yeah. I can't wait to see that. I liked it. Very trusted people have told me it's great.

[Bryan Johnson]

Not a tough sit because it is three hours.

[Q]

Three hours long. But I did not feel like it dragged or it fell. Felt like three hours.

[Walt Flanagan]

Okay.

[Q]

Again, I thought this was more like a story. I didn't read the story in high school, so I didn't know anything about it. I didn't Realize it was fucking Clash of the Titans. The commercials don't really sell that. Like, why aren't you putting a cyclops

[Bryan Johnson]

in the fucking trailer?

[Q]

I think a lot more people would

[Walt Flanagan]

go, cyclops is in the trailer.

[Q]

No, not the trailer.

[Walt Flanagan]

I saw, he's in the trailer.

[Q]

I saw like, there's some Harryhausen shit in this. And I'm like, I, I, I screamed to Jeff on the phone. It's like, you gotta get down here. This isn't, this isn't boring, like historical. There's monsters and dragons in this.

[Walt Flanagan]

That's cool, man.

[Q]

Yeah, it was good.

[Walt Flanagan]

I'm gonna go see it. I, I, I, I've, I've been hearing nothing but good things about it.

[Q]

Yeah, Matt Damon's good.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Q]

Peter Parker's good.

[Gideon]

I heard for some scenes they hired a miniature actor to play Bat Damon and then like an eight foot guy to play the, the giant. So, yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

Was this cyclops a puppet on set? I heard, I heard somebody told me that the cyclops was physically there. They had a giant marionette.

[Q]

Oh, I don't know.

[Walt Flanagan]

And then they superimposed like, things on it. But that's, that's what someone told me. I don't know whether that's.

[Q]

It looked, it looked really good, if that. I don't think he likes cgi though, the director.

[Walt Flanagan]

I think that's why I think he's a maniac.

[Q]

And like, like there was no.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, look at that.

[Q]

That was a puppet. Huh.

[Gideon]

I think that's, yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, I'm sure they, they impose the.

[Gideon]

So they know what they're acting against.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, that's pretty dope.

[Gideon]

I think in Avengers it was. Brolin had like this tennis ball mounted above his head so, like, they would know where.

[Walt Flanagan]

Right.

[Gideon]

Thanos's eyes were.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, Jar Jar wore the Jar Jar mask back when they made that back in the day. So is that real or is this,

[Gideon]

that's movies in the making, so I

[Walt Flanagan]

don't know what that means, buddy.

[Gideon]

It's like behind the scenes footage from the.

[Walt Flanagan]

Okay, yeah. All right, cool.

[Q]

And he did a thing. I've never seen a cyclops before. The eye blinked sideways.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, really?

[Q]

Yeah. So it was like a little new twist. Something I've never seen on a cyclops before. But yeah, it was good. I mean, that guy's maniac, though, with the like for, in terms of not shooting on green screen. So I imagine it costs way much. The budget must balloon when you, when

[Bryan Johnson]

you insist on practical shit.

[Q]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gideon]

So that's the actor. Actress, and that's the one who played the giant.

[Bryan Johnson]

Man, she's real.

[Walt Flanagan]

That's cool.

[Q]

Yeah, it is cool.

[Walt Flanagan]

All right.

[Q]

There's no real explanation though, for like, why there's. I guess it's just all like. They're beings of the gods.

[Walt Flanagan]

I guess there's like, they're gods in the movie, right?

[Q]

There's not a lot of gods in the movie, but they're. They're. I guess there's. I think the Cyclops was the son of a God or something like that. Not living a great life, though, if you're the son of a God, though, living in a cave, herding sheep.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, well, what else was there to do back then?

[Q]

I mean, maybe live in a palace.

[Walt Flanagan]

Honestly, if you offered me a few years on an island by myself herded sheep, I'd be like, I don't know.

[Bryan Johnson]

No phones, no social media, nobody breathing down my neck.

[Gideon]

Sometimes the sheep need help getting through the cave.

[Walt Flanagan]

What are you gonna do?

[Bryan Johnson]

Announcement. My brother, not him, but his wife or girlfriend actually had her baby.

[Walt Flanagan]

Another Johnson in the world.

[Bryan Johnson]

Another. Yep, another Johnson. What's that?

[Q]

What do you name the baby?

[Bryan Johnson]

It's a girl. Her name is. Yeah, her name is Juniper.

[Q]

Oh, that's cool.

[Bryan Johnson]

I immediately said I'm gonna call June Bug. That's my nickname for. He said his wife would appreciate that because it's appropriately white trash. Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

So congratulations, Uncle.

[Bryan Johnson]

He now begins the. He now begins the odyssey himself of another. A kid he raised his other. His ex wife's kid. Pretty much, yeah. From the time he was 4. And now he's like 24 or something. And his now girlfriend, he's. He's stepfather to her kid or step boyfriend or whatever you would call that. Now he's got his own. Nice.

[Walt Flanagan]

The grand adventure begins.

[Bryan Johnson]

Is stupid bastard 50 don't watch to me.

[Walt Flanagan]

But hey, I'd rather be the Cyclops,

[Bryan Johnson]

probably her than sheep in a cave.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Q]

When's he planning to come to Jersey to show off the new baby?

[Bryan Johnson]

I don't know. Probably a couple months. Yeah. Why, you want to lock him down?

[Q]

Yeah,

[Bryan Johnson]

yeah, probably within a couple months. My mother wanted him to bring the baby camping in a couple weeks. To which he was like, I don't think so. That's. That seems a little soon.

[Walt Flanagan]

How come bring a newborn Ticks everywhere.

[Bryan Johnson]

The outdoors.

[Q]

If she's. Your mother's talking about camping like in a sleeping bag? No, no.

[Bryan Johnson]

Like, yeah, no, she's not.

[Q]

No log cabins. Like she wants to be out roughing it, like on the terrain, living off berries and Fishing. And if we don't catch any fish,

[Bryan Johnson]

that baby don't eat awfully hungry. Yeah. I think she's talking about log cabin type stuff. But he's just like, look, it's a little bit too soon to be bringing the baby out in the great outdoors.

[Q]

I mean, that's the couple months maybe.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah.

[Q]

So I saw newborns, like, barely out of the womb at Universal Studios, like,

[Bryan Johnson]

in the blazing heat.

[Q]

I'm just like, what the fuck?

[Gideon]

Tickets were bought six months in advance.

[Q]

Yes, I guess so.

[Gideon]

Baby came early.

[Q]

Like, mama. Like, she had two newborns in the stroller, and all three of them look miserable. And I'm just like, wow, why are you doing this to yourself?

[Gideon]

They should have paid that $100 trip insurance.

[Q]

Get us a fucking fire.

[Bryan Johnson]

I know, right? Look at him go. He's been all. He's been all backed up when you went to Florida, Nobody to talk to.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Q]

Oh, I thought you meant. Yeah. I mean, when he's probably. When he talks about being backed up, I usually, I, I, I always. To the other.

[Bryan Johnson]

The other ends backed up.

[Walt Flanagan]

Not his mouth. Never his mouth.

[Bryan Johnson]

I, I was told not to text something to. To my brother. Like, it was. We were on a big group chain. Group text. And so Eric said, you know, the baby's been born and everybody's weighing in with the congratulations. And then Pam was like, oh, the baby's beautiful. And under that, I wanted to text. Then why did you text me privately? Omg. Why didn't someone tell me Mars attacked? Because it was a picture of the baby and she might marry. But I said no. She's like I said, don't do that.

[Walt Flanagan]

Sometimes it's better to listen.

[Q]

Brian Lee Johnson listen.

[Bryan Johnson]

I listen because I'm on the fence about your.

[Q]

So your pimp hand is gone. It is literally.

[Bryan Johnson]

Look at it.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, that is a little.

[Q]

That is the limp.

[Bryan Johnson]

People are gonna mistake me for something.

[Walt Flanagan]

It looks like a plan. I forgot the water.

[Gideon]

The man who used to slip dildos into.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah.

[Q]

Permission now is letting his wife edit his comment.

[Bryan Johnson]

Maybe she knows his barbs.

[Q]

His brother was expecting that. Maybe, maybe he was. Maybe, like, you know, Eric was like, man, my brother didn't joke about insult the kid.

[Bryan Johnson]

I don't think he loves me anymore.

[Walt Flanagan]

Maybe he thinks there's something wrong with the baby now.

[Bryan Johnson]

Looks like a baby, though. Yeah. Looks like a little baby.

[Q]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

So Congratulations to Eric. Dr. D. I can ask you this. We were looking through pictures, my wife and I, we came to a picture of years ago. I was probably 19 or 20 and it was. Kevin was at the prom and I went down there to see him off. For some reason, I don't know why we went down there, but there's a picture of me and Kev and I'm in shorts and a tank top. And Mary Beth starts fucking salivating over it. Younger me. She's like, look at those legs. Look at you. Now, is this something I should be jealous at or mad at one of the two?

[Walt Flanagan]

Not realistic about it at all.

[Dr. D]

It was a picture of you.

[Bryan Johnson]

It's a picture of me and Kev. Yeah. She was talking about me.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I think that's. I think that's sexy. Like, she's. She's still in love with.

[Bryan Johnson]

She's pining over a totally different person. Look at me.

[Dr. D]

It's. You're. She's still pining over the same person,

[Bryan Johnson]

but a different version though.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I think that's.

[Bryan Johnson]

I think that's preferable version, maybe, some would say normal.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I think it would be more. I think it would be more offensive if she was saying negative things about you, but I think that's cute.

[Bryan Johnson]

Again, look at that hair. What's wrong with you? Yeah, could you tip your mic up just a little? Are you able to tip it up? No. It's not your fault. No. Get him's on the way.

[Dr. D]

I got it. Like this.

[Bryan Johnson]

There you go.

[Q]

You'll be there in about an hour.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, as soon as I say get. Walt says get him. Tell him. Cj. Yeah, yeah. You're just talking to him like.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I don't know. I think that's. I think that's sexy. I think that's reassuring.

[Bryan Johnson]

Reassuring, really?

[Dr. D]

Okay and present version of you.

[Walt Flanagan]

How old are you in the picture?

[Bryan Johnson]

Probably like 20.

[Walt Flanagan]

Mm.

[Bryan Johnson]

Not an ounce of fat on me. No saggy skin.

[Walt Flanagan]

I just print out a picture of that guy and tape it to your face.

[Bryan Johnson]

No beard either. Yeah, you're right. What?

[Walt Flanagan]

Print out a picture of it. Tape it to your face.

[Bryan Johnson]

You like me now?

[Walt Flanagan]

Make love?

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah. Why not get a little weird? Get weird with it.

[Q]

We're to go home and shave the beard and then like surprise her and

[Bryan Johnson]

be like, do some leg exercise.

[Q]

19 year old bride's here.

[Bryan Johnson]

He's back.

[Gideon]

Baby

[Bryan Johnson]

would probably scream, pop out, slip, break your hip. She doesn't know I'm holding you.

[Q]

There's toilet paper cuts all over your.

[Walt Flanagan]

You know the toilet paper.

[Bryan Johnson]

Toilet paper band aids all over your face. Spots all over me. Yeah. No, I'm younger than that.

[Q]

Dropping all your 19 year old jargon

[Bryan Johnson]

Lingo Yeah, it does look like it's popping up here.

[Walt Flanagan]

Wow.

[Bryan Johnson]

Get them Googled. Kevin Smith Prom. Brian Johnson. But yeah, I'm not.

[Dr. D]

I wouldn't take it seriously. I think it's cute. Cute?

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah.

[Dr. D]

You should take it as a compliment.

[Bryan Johnson]

All right, if you say so. What other choice do I have, right?

[Dr. D]

You could be. Yeah. Agree.

[Bryan Johnson]

What do you do? Stew about it?

[Dr. D]

Exactly. No, I think it's good.

[Bryan Johnson]

All right.

[Dr. D]

It's reassuring.

[Bryan Johnson]

You say so.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

This coming weekend. Not this coming weekend, but the weekend of the 30th to the 1st. I think I'll be with Jiggy Taste the Taste Funny Comedy Festival, if anybody is. I'm not even sure if tickets are left, but down there in Orlando.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yes. Yes, I'll be at a wedding, unfortunately.

[Bryan Johnson]

But you'll be upstate, right?

[Walt Flanagan]

I'll be upstate.

[Bryan Johnson]

That sucked. When I heard that, I was like, damn.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, I wanted to go. I would have had the bail on the wedding.

[Bryan Johnson]

And I can't because it's two people who work on the set.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dr. D]

Can you take special precautions so you don't have any more nosebleeds this time?

[Bryan Johnson]

I don't know. What precautions could I take? Massive nosebleeds. Moisturize a lot. Like drink a lot of water?

[Dr. D]

No, just like, you know, nasally.

[Bryan Johnson]

Nasally spray. Like a saline spray.

[Q]

Maybe insert some suppositories into his nose.

[Bryan Johnson]

That would look good.

[Dr. D]

Steam in the shower. Take all of your medicine, all those good things.

[Q]

Doesn't everybody steam in the shower?

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, pretty much. I don't like it steamy. I don't like it. So it's so hot that it's steamy.

[Q]

I love it steamy.

[Bryan Johnson]

No, because then it burns your skin.

[Dr. D]

I won't be there.

[Q]

That's very concerning.

[Bryan Johnson]

Cold shower man. That's for me, that's concerning

[Q]

behavior. Like, I don't like.

[Bryan Johnson]

Am I wrong?

[Dr. D]

It's true. If it's too hot, you get dry skin. But yeah, there's something about being cold.

[Bryan Johnson]

I'm so moist.

[Dr. D]

Not preferable.

[Bryan Johnson]

I looked at Walt. I know that we were talking about doing cons that we have not heard from Joey Fatone yet.

[Walt Flanagan]

No, we have. I have. I spoke to his manager and the proposal is being put together. Yes. Yes, we have a review.

[Q]

I'll have my.

[Walt Flanagan]

We will. We will. Review over. Yeah, we will review it.

[Bryan Johnson]

Look it over.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yes. So it. Though I haven't mentioned it. There has been ongoing. There's been ongoing discussions.

[Q]

Do we put the. The weird clause in there? Like, you know how Van Halen was like, we want, like, five pounds of brown M&Ms. Just to see if they're reading it.

[Walt Flanagan]

Sure, we could do that. You know, I made more concerns about, like, but we can do that, too.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, well, it's mainly concerned with M and M. Yeah. Yeah.

[Q]

But no, no, it was done just because Van Halen wanted to make sure everybody paying attention. Paying attention and reading the details.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, really? I didn't know that. I didn't know. I thought it was just one of those whimsical.

[Walt Flanagan]

They got there and they. And the bowl didn't have just that color Eminem in it. They re. They knew that. They weren't paying attention to the details.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, all right.

[Gideon]

Like the stage and stuff.

[Bryan Johnson]

But I was. I was reading. Walt. I was reading. Reading the list of guests for Dragon Con. Don't be.

[Q]

Atlanta, right?

[Bryan Johnson]

Atlanta. Yeah. Don't be. Don't feel like you don't belong at a con, because some of these guests, I was like, you've got to be fucking kidding me. Like, lawyers, accountants. Accountants, yeah. It's like, just actors who. Lawyers and accounts, I think. I don't know. No, it's not even actors. It's just, like, the one guy was, like, literally a lawyer who did, like, Law for Personalities and shit. And I saw another one where it was a girl who was in a meme. I don't. I don't have the picture. I actually might have the picture of the meme. Hold on, I'll take a look. But it just strikes me that it's not going to be.

[Q]

I'm sure there's nerds out there who are, like, even into, like. I'm really into the law of. Of how, you know, how contracts are signed by celebrities and lawyers.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, right.

[Q]

There's got to be nerds who are

[Walt Flanagan]

into that aspect of it, too, I guess. Why not?

[Gideon]

Some good guests?

[Bryan Johnson]

Who they got? Get them.

[Gideon]

Richard Dean Anderson. John Bellingsley.

[Q]

Richard Dean Anderson.

[Gideon]

Yeah. And General Hospital.

[Q]

What's he. What's he best known for? MacGyver, I would think, Right?

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, I think there's two. There's two answers to that.

[Gideon]

Yes.

[Walt Flanagan]

I think he's got his Stargate fans and his MacGyver.

[Q]

I mean, did anybody even know what channel that show is on?

[Walt Flanagan]

It's real popular, man.

[Gideon]

Matt Deniman's going to be there.

[Bryan Johnson]

There you go.

[Gideon]

Nathan Fillion.

[Bryan Johnson]

But this is somebody who's at a different. This is a different con. This is a Rocky. Oh, Smoky Mountain Anime Fest.

[Walt Flanagan]

John Glover. Jesus Christ. He's like, 83.

[Bryan Johnson]

This is a girl who is a meme. Remember her?

[Q]

Oh, yeah, I remember her.

[Bryan Johnson]

Remember this meme girl?

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Q]

Well, I mean.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, yeah, she's appearing at a con.

[Q]

Why not try to, like, just squeeze everyone? Oh, no, I'm not saying don't let it out.

[Bryan Johnson]

I'm not saying don't let her in. I'm saying that, like, if she can get in, surely somebody who was on TV for seven years shouldn't feel bad about, like, weaseling their way in there.

[Gideon]

I recently saw another artist. It was going to be at a con.

[Bryan Johnson]

The Super Jersey Eye in Peak Hillsborough, New Jersey, con. Mike Zapsyk, an artist. Alley. Is he an artist? Does he draw? Did he ever draw?

[Q]

Gidem is unable to answer that question

[Bryan Johnson]

due to NDA

[Q]

10 years ago.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, the Iron Golem. So that's what Mike. Maybe he's considered being a writer on it. An artist. I don't see why not. Why not?

[Walt Flanagan]

Q, why not?

[Bryan Johnson]

Why not? What else do we got here? Let's see. I think that's pretty much it. That was all on my list for this week because, Walt, you have stuff that you want to get to.

[Q]

Well, I came back to Gideon's new health update with his enlarged body parts. Right. I don't know how many. How many things are now enlarged?

[Gideon]

No, sadly, not that.

[Q]

How many things have grown, like, to the point where now they're considered enlarged?

[Gideon]

I think just one.

[Q]

Just one.

[Gideon]

And just half of it.

[Q]

Just half of it. And I thought it would be great time to ask Dr. D to come in and maybe give us, as his friends and employers, is there anything that we can do to help him reduce the size of his enlarged body parts?

[Bryan Johnson]

I thought you were going to say fire him without it being actionable.

[Dr. D]

Well, I wanted to just kind of, like, take a step back and see if we've closed the loop on the Chinese spine situation. Your Asian spine.

[Gideon]

Well, that's why I had to get conditions, because the numbness was coming back.

[Dr. D]

Oh, really? Yes.

[Q]

Wait a minute. What was that?

[Bryan Johnson]

Didn't he have Chinese spine condition?

[Gideon]

Yeah, the opll.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, it's a condition. Oh, I got that in Asian. Oh, yeah.

[Q]

I thought that was.

[Dr. D]

So I wanted to see if that was, like, if that's been. That book has been closed or if that book is still open.

[Gideon]

It's still open.

[Dr. D]

It's still open.

[Gideon]

Yeah. That's why I had.

[Q]

Do you think that probably his father or mother was Asian?

[Dr. D]

That, you know, it's possible you would. I know that. I know the answer to this because I Know how particular you are. But would you ever do genetic testing or anything like that? Or would you be too paranoid to do that anonymously?

[Q]

I do it or not. Maybe not father, but like there's in his family tree, there must be aging.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. There's a blood. It could be. Yeah. I think that a lot to Scott,

[Bryan Johnson]

it might not be his real dad. His real dad could be like a Charlie Chan type. You don't know. He doesn't tell you everything, right?

[Dr. D]

People find out a lot of things.

[Q]

That's more outdated. The kids are like who

[Bryan Johnson]

Even Jackie Chan's a lot of data. I should update it. You're right.

[Gideon]

When I was number one son, I would look.

[Dr. D]

I. I don't know. I would do.

[Q]

I would do at this point, what would it. Even if he found out, what would it mean?

[Dr. D]

More of an interesting thing to know.

[Q]

Okay, so what can we do to help? Now?

[Bryan Johnson]

You.

[Q]

You've seen the scans, right?

[Dr. D]

I actually didn't see them until five minutes ago.

[Q]

I thought you said. You said.

[Gideon]

I did.

[Dr. D]

I didn't get an email. I didn't look at it because it was too busy.

[Bryan Johnson]

So you didn't get it?

[Dr. D]

He didn't tell me. He sent me an email.

[Walt Flanagan]

She'll just do shit for free.

[Dr. D]

But I did look at it when I got here, so.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, because she knows any advice she gives me, he's not going to listen to either way.

[Q]

So I don't know. I think he will.

[Dr. D]

He would have text me and said, hey, check your email. I would have done it right away, but it was. It's been busy. So what I would say is when I saw. When I got here and looked at the scan was that I don't know if there's anything you can do other than take away the Himalayan sea salt and just.

[Q]

Where's this? Where's the Himalayan.

[Dr. D]

Secretly replace it with regular iodine.

[Q]

Where's the sea salt?

[Gideon]

Well, as you'll note,

[Q]

My confrontational.

[Gideon]

My multivitamins, 100 of my iodine.

[Dr. D]

Okay, so he makes a good point.

[Q]

Where's the sea salt at?

[Gideon]

It's in the back.

[Q]

Not anymore.

[Walt Flanagan]

Why does it not anymore?

[Q]

It's gone. I'm taking it. As soon as this recording is over, I'm throwing it in the dumpster.

[Walt Flanagan]

Regular fucking salt for you, son.

[Dr. D]

I would say this, the more serious thing is, and you know, obviously I care about you, so I want you to do the right thing at unilateral swelling anywhere. It needs to be prioritized because you would think that if something was homogeneous or bilaterally swollen, then it's probably less of an issue than something that's unilaterally swollen, meaning one sided. So, you know, obviously you don't want to. If that issue were to get worse, you don't want to have any compression on your airway, you don't want to have hoarseness, trouble swallowing, etc. So if I were you, I would get that ultrasound right away because you want to see what's what. The reasoning for the extra tissue is, is it a cyst? Is it a nodule? Is it something that's not supposed to be there? Is it an autoimmune thing? So it's not something I would put off to the wayside. I would, I would expedite getting better pictures so that you can make decisions about what you need to do. But I don't know if there's anything

[Q]

else that like, I thought maybe massages could. Like, maybe like.

[Dr. D]

No, no.

[Q]

Neck massages.

[Dr. D]

Wouldn't Karate. Karate chop to the neck once a day.

[Walt Flanagan]

I forget if, like, last time we hear, did we talk about one of those, like, full body. We did talk about them.

[Bryan Johnson]

I.

[Dr. D]

You. That might be up your alley. You might want to get that done.

[Walt Flanagan]

What is that called?

[Dr. D]

10 Grand Prix Whole Body MRI.

[Walt Flanagan]

Pronovo Full Body MRI.

[Dr. D]

I mean, it might.

[Gideon]

I don't like MRIs.

[Bryan Johnson]

Is there enough value in the world for that?

[Gideon]

Yeah, I'm not sure. Like the 10 milligrams they gave me was. Did like barely anything but that.

[Walt Flanagan]

But that thing will tell you everything, right? Like it tells you everything?

[Dr. D]

Yeah, it would give you a better picture. But the ultrasound is key because if there is something that's not supposed to be there and it's not good, it's gotta go. If it's something that is benign or not concerning, then you can probably just monitor it. But you don't want to waste time on that. I wouldn't.

[Q]

So how come the MRI doesn't show that you need another thing now?

[Dr. D]

So sometimes contrast, I don't know if you had contrast or not. So sometimes contrast is a better enhancement. But an ultrasound is the first line treatment because it gets super close to the area and it can give you definitive answers about like the texture of the tissue and what's going on in there.

[Gideon]

Like why you can see like a baby's face.

[Q]

Not, no kidding around. Do you think that, like, maybe after hours, like, you know, after Tom closes up his shop, that he could just sneak you in the back door?

[Gideon]

He says no.

[Q]

Oh my God. He's got. We Gotta put some pressure on fucking Tom.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, just tell his wife to tell

[Q]

him he's gotta fucking step up and fucking take on for the team now. And let get him have no reason to have.

[Bryan Johnson]

What's it called, the Pro bowl prolapse.

[Q]

Like he's gotta, like let you have at the Pro bowl machine and. And do all the scans.

[Dr. D]

I think it would be hard to get an old.

[Q]

Nobody would ever know. Right. Like it's. Isn't it like a copier, basically?

[Dr. D]

Well, the radiologist would have to read it and then it would.

[Q]

You could read it.

[Dr. D]

I can't read ultra.

[Q]

Okay, then we'll let Tom read it.

[Dr. D]

And then only a radiologist could read it.

[Q]

We'll let Tom read it and see what he thinks, though.

[Dr. D]

And then there's blood work you can do too. So I wouldn't put that on the back burner. I would do that this summer. Just get it out of the way.

[Gideon]

Yeah, I gotta find an endocrinologist that's on my plan. And then because I'm a new patient, then I gotta wait for the inevitable month of waiting, you know, or at least to get in to see them.

[Dr. D]

Do you have a primary, though, that could read the orders? Primary care doctor?

[Gideon]

I have a pcp, but my neurologist specifically said I need to see an endocrinologist. I would.

[Dr. D]

I mean, I handle thyroid issues all the time. I would just ask your PCP first because it's something that's easy.

[Q]

Now, what are the symptoms when you have a. Have a big thyroid?

[Dr. D]

So it's interesting. Interesting. You could either have a big thyroid because your thyroid is too slow or too fast.

[Q]

It's probably too slow

[Walt Flanagan]

based on all the other evidence available.

[Gideon]

That's not necessarily true.

[Q]

The blind girl would have issue with that.

[Gideon]

Hold up.

[Q]

I know something he's very quick at. Like a rabbit, James. You know, rabbits go at it and then they go down for like an hour or two. They just keel over. Leg still twitching like Thumper.

[Gideon]

Ain't no blue chew helping that.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I would say probably not hyperthyroidism, because usually those are like more. They're rough symptoms like sweating, heart rate really high, rapid weight loss, like anxiety really badly. I wouldn't think that. I think that you would be really symptomatic if you had hyperthyroidism. But it's. I mean, if it's the very beginning of it, maybe not. Hypothyroidism is like tired, sluggish hair loss.

[Q]

Check, check, check.

[Dr. D]

Weight gain, those types of things. Slow heart rate definitely not that. Yeah. So I would. I would just prioritize the situation if it were me.

[Q]

Okay.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Q]

But there's nothing we can do.

[Dr. D]

I don't think there.

[Gideon]

Do you.

[Dr. D]

Do you think there's anything you guys

[Bryan Johnson]

can do that's good?

[Dr. D]

I can't think. I'm taking this off your plate. I'm taking this off your plate. I can. I can handle it from here and tell them what to do, but I don't.

[Gideon]

Do you feel it could be a side effect of the surgery that was.

[Dr. D]

I was going to ask you that. Because it is on the same side as the incision.

[Gideon]

No, it's the opposite side. And I am a little TTP on that side. Tender to palpation, unlike the back of my neck.

[Dr. D]

Terms he studied for the test today.

[Gideon]

No, that was what my physical therapist told me to say.

[Dr. D]

To say. Yeah, I'm just kidding you. No, if it's on the opposite side, it's unrelated. I don't. If it hasn't been cut through, then I don't think it's part of the issue.

[Gideon]

Okay.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Gideon]

Because I do get a little trouble swallowing on that side where the incision was over here. But that's only every once in a while. Like, I'll say a certain word and, like, it kind of locks up.

[Q]

So I'll say a certain word.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Q]

And you're. And your neck locks up.

[Gideon]

No, no, Just, like, I get, like, a little twinge and I got.

[Dr. D]

What word is it? Can't breathe.

[Gideon]

I don't usually notice what word. It's like, I'll be trying to say a sentence and, like, it catches that one word. Yeah, it's not a specific word.

[Dr. D]

I can't say it's related. Okay. Just get the whole thing. Ultrasound. That I. I would just.

[Q]

Yeah.

[Gideon]

You know, because, like, you know, I can't see it back here, but the one side where the incision was feels like sunken, as opposed to the other side.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. I don't think it's ever going to be completely normal because anytime you're, like, surgerized like that, the. You're going to have some chronic pain and it's going to be, like, stuck.

[Gideon]

No pain.

[Dr. D]

Really.

[Gideon]

Yeah. Except. Except for the pushing. Like I said, if you outpat it,

[Dr. D]

you mess with it too much.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. I don't think it's related.

[Bryan Johnson]

You just said something interesting. Normal gidem is defined by his maladies at this point. Like, when you think gidem, you think gout, you think neck pain, you think this, you think that you do see any normalcy in his future with all these problems he has? It's an awfully long pause.

[Dr. D]

I know that's a hard question to answer because what is normal? I don't think any of us are normal.

[Gideon]

Normal. It's a normal age setting up.

[Dr. D]

I do think you could be better.

[Bryan Johnson]

You could be better. I'd hope so.

[Dr. D]

Could be better. You know, if you keep up with physical therapy, if you work at it every day, if you take care of everything that needs to be taken care of, I think you can get a lot of your function back.

[Q]

Like, do you think that tub of pills over there is. Is normal?

[Dr. D]

The thing that's concerning to me I'm the tub o pills is that.

[Bryan Johnson]

That's a lot of pills.

[Dr. D]

Someone tell you specifically to take these?

[Q]

Google.

[Gideon]

Did you told me to take that?

[Dr. D]

Yes.

[Gideon]

And magnesium as well.

[Bryan Johnson]

What about the 50 other.

[Dr. D]

But you know, if you're feeling.

[Gideon]

The calcium was for after my. Because I was regrowing the bone went after they did the surgery. Okay.

[Dr. D]

But if you're feeling better, like, you might not need to take all of the supplements. And I don't know what else is in there, but some.

[Gideon]

Yeah, some of it. Yeah.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. I think that sometimes people can really hurt themselves by just buying things over the counter. Like, you can get toxic off certain things. Certain drugs can change your heart rhythm. Like, so I think people just go in the store and they're. People just go in the store and they're like, what's the highest dose of anything I can find? I'll take it. I'll feel better. It's like, no, you really could harm yourself.

[Bryan Johnson]

I used to do that with oxy, so it's a high stove. Just give me it. Just give me it.

[Gideon]

Well, my B12 was low then they. When they took the.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I think we talked about that before and that's totally fine. But you just. You can't just take what you have to really consult with your doctor on everything you do.

[Gideon]

I. My doctor knows I take these. I admit it when I.

[Q]

You brought the tub with you?

[Gideon]

No, I bring the tub with you. Next time I fill out my. I put it in my. My chart so they know exactly what I'm taking.

[Q]

Take at least a photo of it and bring it and be like, doc, is this okay that I'm ingesting all these pills five times a day?

[Gideon]

Twice a day? I, you know, I take ones in the morning and once at night.

[Bryan Johnson]

How many pills are in each grouping?

[Q]

I mean,

[Gideon]

five in the morning and four at Night.

[Dr. D]

That seems like a lot. I. I would just see if you really need all of them.

[Bryan Johnson]

And that's all supplements, right? That's not like, prescribed medication?

[Gideon]

No, none of it's prescribed. Yeah, I have a. Like, I like to have a stool softener. I take the multivitamin.

[Bryan Johnson]

Come on, now.

[Gideon]

Don't get Dr.

[Bryan Johnson]

Hot bothered.

[Gideon]

My magnesium, my calcium.

[Dr. D]

All right, I applaud you for trying, but just be cautious.

[Gideon]

I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Q]

What's something he could do naturally to like, to soften things?

[Gideon]

I take a metamucil.

[Q]

Can he take.

[Dr. D]

You mean so that you're not constipated?

[Q]

Like a lot of cabbage.

[Bryan Johnson]

A lot of cabbage.

[Dr. D]

With the current situation of the.

[Bryan Johnson]

In the lettuce community.

[Dr. D]

He's gonna be crabbing the diarrhea. Lettuce is going around right now. We don't recommend that.

[Q]

Well, just not from Taco Bell. No, just don't buy Taco Bell lettuce.

[Dr. D]

Fiber, you're doing, staying hydrated, being active, moving things.

[Q]

Don't shake your head. Yes. At being active.

[Gideon]

I was shaking it.

[Bryan Johnson]

Fiber, you need to move involuntarily.

[Dr. D]

And then the magnesium would help. And I think also certain fruits.

[Gideon]

I take the magnesium night because apparently it also helps you sleep.

[Dr. D]

That it does.

[Q]

You don't have. Need any help falling asleep. Every time I walk in here, you're sleeping every time.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, you see my magnesium?

[Q]

Oh, man. I took too many magnesium up, man. Yo, bro, So up on this, man.

[Bryan Johnson]

Got my magic

[Gideon]

mad soft shits.

[Q]

Like, don't you think it's better for him to go the. The more natural route to get these things rather than just in a pill form?

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I mean, that's always the case. Sometimes, like, natural things are better than pills. But I understand there's certain. You know, certain people have certain issues. But as doctors, we always want patients to do things the natural way. I mean, at least I do. I'm not one to say, here's a pill for this. Here's a pill for this. See you later. Like, I want to try to help them get there on their own. So.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

How's your cholesterol going?

[Gideon]

You know, I think it was a little.

[Dr. D]

It actually wasn't that bad because when we were here for the Christmas pod, Chris. Chris La was so mad because cholesterol was better than Mom.

[Gideon]

My liver function and my liver function.

[Dr. D]

He was raging out over it, and I love him for that. But, yeah, I think. I think your cholesterol actually wasn't that bad.

[Q]

Life's not fair.

[Dr. D]

Sometimes yeah, that's. Genetics is 50% of the issue.

[Walt Flanagan]

Wow. Because Lodondo's not a. He's a pretty slim guy.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. But if you have that genetic propensity, like, there are people who are like high grade athletes who have horrible cholesterol.

[Walt Flanagan]

So what could. What could a high grade athlete do about it then?

[Dr. D]

Sometimes it's like their gi. Their genetics, or there's certain. Like there's new things we're trying to. Like, there's a new pill out that just came out last week to kind of like block the genetic. I'm sorry if this is boring you.

[Q]

No, no, no.

[Dr. D]

Like, there's a new pill they're trying to make that's trying to block one of the inhibitors that, like, makes you keep cholesterol longer. So we're trying to, like, be more scientific about it. Yes. Diet is a huge portion of it, but a lot of people who are extremely healthy have horrible cholesterol, and it's not their fault. So you can't always assume that a patient comes in and has a bad cholesterol, that they're eating poorly, because it's not always the case.

[Q]

As a doctor, how much of your time is spent having to keep up to date? Like you just said, there's a new pill on the market coming out last week. Like, how. How are you able to keep up with all the. Because I imagine there's somebody who, like a representative that comes to your office to try to sell the pill. Right.

[Dr. D]

Well, they just stop in and leave information and give me samples and say, if you have any questions, we can meet and have like a zoom or whatever. But it is very difficult because every pill has two names, the brand name and the generic name. So when I went to medical school, I had to, like, I feel like part of my brain just dumped information from the past and had to make like a whole new vocabulary. Because every drug has two names, and then you have to memorize what the drug does, both of the names, and they're constantly coming out with new drugs. So it is very difficult. So sometimes if someone comes in from a specialist and has a new drug, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I've never seen this and have to sit and look it up, read about it. So a lot of time is.

[Q]

Yeah. And. And then you have to keep also up to date on what drug maybe goes off market. Right?

[Dr. D]

Yeah. And a lot of the drugs too, when they first come out, are super expensive. So everybody wants it right away, but it's so expensive. So it's like, it's not, it's so difficult sometimes because some people don't have enough money to pay for things. You have to find an alternative. Yeah.

[Q]

What?

[Bryan Johnson]

My urologist prescribed something. It was $500 for 30 days.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh my God.

[Bryan Johnson]

I was like, I'm not gonna take it, I guess because it's not necessary. But it was like, yeah, helpful, beneficial.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. So it's, it's so convoluted, the pricing

[Q]

and, you know, so is it like, is it just to dumb it down? Like, as a doctor, do you order like, like a certain amount of pills a month or like, or you just prescribe them, right?

[Dr. D]

Yeah. So you.

[Q]

So like, you have them in your. But you, they leave the pills at your office though, for you to.

[Dr. D]

So if a new pill comes out

[Q]

to try it on yourself to see if it works.

[Dr. D]

No, no, no. So, yeah, I just, I just, I just go, well, down the hatch. Let's see what's gonna happen tonight. No, no, I.

[Bryan Johnson]

Is one of my pupils bigger than the other one right now?

[Dr. D]

Is my smile crooked?

[Q]

So if they leave a pill for you, what do you do with it?

[Dr. D]

Okay, example would be a. When a new blood thinner came out, right? The rep will come in and say, hey, if any of your patients come in and they have new onset atrial fibrillation and they need a blood thinner, here's some samples to bridge them to when their insurance could pay for it. So like, it's kind of like a help along the way.

[Q]

Okay.

[Dr. D]

I don't. Those pills are for specific conditions like thyroid or blood thinners, but they'll only give you one or two boxes. And then after you give them to the patient, you're like, I hope that your insurance covers it. I'll try my best, but you might have to pay.

[Q]

So do you keep up on the costs of these or do you not?

[Dr. D]

It's an impossibility because every insurance is different, right?

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, my insurance sucks. They pay for nothing. I take a pill that would normally be about six to seven hundred dollars a month, but my psychologist psychiatrist gives it to me in a sample form. So it's very nice of them.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, yeah. And that's what we're forced to do to try to make sure that everyone's well taken care. But I know, like in medical school I lost so much information from, like, sometimes I forget how to spell certain words because I swear my brain dumped like anything that was non essential to make room for that whole new vocabulary of words I've never known before. Like, even like when you do the cadaver lab and you have to learn all of the muscles in the body,

[Gideon]

all the different sinuses.

[Dr. D]

Every single thing has a different name. So it's like all these new words are coming in your head and, like, there would be times where I'm like. I forget how to spell, like, the simplest word because I feel like my brain just dumped it. But, you know, you adapt and you learn and you're allowed to look things up. You know, you have a lot of resources.

[Bryan Johnson]

Are you sad you missed the heyday of drug reps?

[Dr. D]

I never really got to vacations and dinners. I didn't experience that. Really? No, no. I mean, the most I used to do would be. Hey, if you want to talk about this new drug, we'll bring you lunch and we'll see.

[Bryan Johnson]

Lunch is allowed.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. And we'll sit and talk about the drug and you can ask me any questions you want. But never. I was never spoiled by them in any way. That's over.

[Bryan Johnson]

That was back in the day.

[Gideon]

Swag, like pens and stuff?

[Dr. D]

Yeah, they're not allowed to get.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, I'm talking about vacation Hawaii.

[Q]

Like pens.

[Dr. D]

Penridge.

[Bryan Johnson]

Wait, is your name on it?

[Dr. D]

No, they don't.

[Bryan Johnson]

It's one of those nudie pens.

[Dr. D]

At least they don't do that anymore.

[Walt Flanagan]

What is this you have up on the board? Get them. This is you.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, those aren't triglycerides. Dangerous ones.

[Dr. D]

I feel like they got a little higher.

[Walt Flanagan]

I mean, it's in the yellow. It says high.

[Gideon]

That's from October. Yeah.

[Dr. D]

Have you had it repeated?

[Gideon]

No, I can't find it.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, triglycerides is the one that they say is a dangerous one, right?

[Dr. D]

No, the LDL at the bottom.

[Walt Flanagan]

Ldl? He's even.

[Bryan Johnson]

He's still honey on that.

[Dr. D]

High on that. But not horribly. But you need to work on that a little bit.

[Gideon]

Yeah. And thyroid stimulating hormones. That relative or.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, that's actually in a good range, but that was from more than six months ago, so things can change.

[Walt Flanagan]

How often should the average person get all these tests done?

[Dr. D]

Depending on your age, Every six months to a year. If you have other serious medical conditions, then maybe every four months. I would say.

[Q]

Wow.

[Bryan Johnson]

To get all this shit done.

[Walt Flanagan]

I do once a year. I do check up once a year.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah. I'm in the. I'm in the. My cholesterol is a little high.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, you've mentioned that before.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, it's a little high. And everything else is great, though.

[Dr. D]

Please don't be terrified.

[Q]

You need to do it I'm so, like. I have a lot of neurosis.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, you don't want to. You don't want to know if something's wrong.

[Q]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

Kind of like with your car. You just turn the radio.

[Dr. D]

You mean paranoia. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I understand that. I don't think that anyone coming to see me, it's the best day of their life, but I think you. You should at least go and get a physical and you can kind of be in control of what you do and don't do.

[Q]

I don't want them to insert anything.

[Dr. D]

They don't have to. You have control over your body. You're not allowed to. They won't.

[Walt Flanagan]

They have to put a needle in them to get the blood out.

[Q]

No, I don't care about it. I'm talking about, you know.

[Walt Flanagan]

Okay. Your asshole, Jack. I told you, just do this in the bucket. Mail it in.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, you don't have to do any.

[Q]

I don't want to handle. I. No, I. I like my postman so much, I do not want to hand him.

[Walt Flanagan]

You don't give it.

[Bryan Johnson]

You don't give it to the postman. You'll put it in envelope and be like, here you go,

[Dr. D]

oh, my God. I have a story about that. I have a story.

[Q]

I like him too much. It's like. Like, here, brother. I.

[Walt Flanagan]

It's. It's.

[Q]

Well, you just came through my post office. I said hello to it.

[Walt Flanagan]

So, you know, X or something like that. Buddy, you know, you don't have to worry.

[Dr. D]

Well, I was gonna say, just so I can close the gap on this, you have to consent to everything that happens to you. So nothing in that room's gonna happen to you if you don't consent to it. So that's one. The second thing is, so you know, those things you might not know, there's these kits you can, like, put a stool sample in and mail out. Mail out. So I get this. Someone didn't read the directions. And I got a notification that the weight of the package and the sample size was too big for processing.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, my God.

[Dr. D]

Someone just took a massive shit in this box and didn't read the direct directions. So now I'm like, they. One, they have to redo the test. Two, I have to call them and be like, bro, you don't matter with you in this box that they're not going to take was so humiliating for me. So I just put it in an email for you. Yeah, I just said, hey, how do

[Gideon]

I tell my patient this?

[Dr. D]

Hey, you're going to have to read.

[Walt Flanagan]

I've done it a couple times. It's gross, but it's better than getting some guy. First of all, they have to knock you out look to do it. And then this. They're rooting around your while you're asleep. That's not for me, man. Root away, ladies. Could you swallow a pill, hedgehog?

[Bryan Johnson]

Come on now.

[Gideon]

It's better than the finger. So as it goes through your system, it takes photos.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, and you swallow that thing. Yeah.

[Dr. D]

Very expensive. Probably won't be covered.

[Gideon]

Okay.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, yeah.

[Q]

You know what?

[Walt Flanagan]

Wait. That's an option.

[Bryan Johnson]

I'm fine.

[Q]

Yeah, I'm good.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, nobody told me that option.

[Q]

They should.

[Gideon]

I mean, you're rich, but it's not an option.

[Dr. D]

It's only an option if they want to look at your small bowel, which they can't get to.

[Walt Flanagan]

Who do they want to look at my small bowel?

[Bryan Johnson]

It's beautiful. I've seen it. It's famous.

[Gideon]

Shoot TV and put it on for an hour.

[Dr. D]

It could be a special.

[Walt Flanagan]

You can tell advertising against that.

[Dr. D]

It's usually not covered unless you're sick in another way. Yeah. So just be glad you don't have to do it.

[Walt Flanagan]

Go pitch and then you have to root around and you're in the dinner for the capsules.

[Bryan Johnson]

Small bow.

[Walt Flanagan]

We'll Q. Small bow. Get a thumbs up or thumbs down this week.

[Dr. D]

Will he find the capsule?

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, which by the way, the new season starts tonight.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, tonight.

[Walt Flanagan]

So any of the ants out there

[Q]

will be out on Sunday.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, but. But the plus threes matter even more than the day of. So anybody that has the old.

[Bryan Johnson]

So Today is the 23rd.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

So we're recording on the 23rd. Yeah. It's this coming Sunday.

[Walt Flanagan]

I know some ants got the magic boxes out there. Yes.

[Q]

So please show me proof that they put down.

[Bryan Johnson]

They watched you when we were doing comic books. Mary Beth had one. She told me. Oh yeah? Yeah, they happened to send her one.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

That's cool. Yeah.

[Gideon]

She was telling the truth.

[Bryan Johnson]

I hope so.

[Gideon]

Okay.

[Bryan Johnson]

Otherwise I can't believe anything she said.

[Q]

I have to think that text that you're just as nice and kind like. I believe the. The personality you bring here on Mike is the same exact one in your. When you're at work.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Q]

So that would. That would be a big help if I was. If I felt like I was going in to see a doctor like that. But I don't know if most of the doctors I've seen, you know, in the past 10 years, which are not many, they're not. They don't have a good bedside manner, and it terrifies me.

[Dr. D]

I know.

[Q]

They're so cold and clinical and just kind of like. They don't seem like. Not that they have to care. I don't know what the word is I'm searching for, but, like, they're almost. They're almost disassociated, and it just feels

[Bryan Johnson]

like you're just another face.

[Q]

Not another face. Like, not that I need them to be my friend. I'm searching. It's probably just an excuse I'm building up in my mind. I'm like.

[Dr. D]

Or they're not comforting enough.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah.

[Q]

I want someone to hold me if they're gonna put their finger in me.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. You want a spoon? That's a big request, but.

[Q]

But I told.

[Walt Flanagan]

Maybe you can bring a third party in to hold you.

[Gideon]

I'll hold you, boss.

[Bryan Johnson]

Look at my wife.

[Q]

I can pretend it was her figure at least. Not you. I don't want to see your face.

[Walt Flanagan]

Breath on your neck.

[Q]

The doctor's in there right now.

[Bryan Johnson]

You see?

[Q]

It's not that bad, dude.

[Walt Flanagan]

So good boys.

[Gideon]

What about Teddy? Teddy. Teddy.

[Q]

Teddy would be. Teddy would be a very comforting to have, but I don't know if a doctor would be. Would be up for the hygiene factor.

[Gideon]

Teddy sleeps on your back while he's in there going deep.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, isn't he allowed any. What if somebody brought a service dog into your office? Is that allowed?

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be against it as long as it was a service animal and it wasn't wild, Right?

[Bryan Johnson]

What if it was rabid?

[Dr. D]

It was rabid.

[Bryan Johnson]

It was feral.

[Dr. D]

I don't want to get rabies. No, I'm not trying to get rabies anytime soon.

[Q]

So I'm assuming. Supposed to be honest with my doctor, right? 100%.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. If you're lying, I would be like, this is.

[Q]

I would have to be like, this is not my service dog.

[Dr. D]

Oh, no, you wouldn't have to say anything about that.

[Q]

I could lie to him about that.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, but you could be honest.

[Q]

We're already off to a bad start. I'm already lying. As soon as I walk in, I'm already telling him a lie. Wouldn't even add lying.

[Gideon]

He's giving you comfort.

[Q]

Right, but he wasn't subscribed to me, though.

[Dr. D]

I would never ask. I just like, oh, does your service animal. Great. Anyway, I wouldn't even ask. But I do think I'll help you in any way that you need help.

[Q]

I am 100%. Like, I would Bet anything that, yeah, you're the same exact person and that, like, your. Your bedside manner is. Is immaculate. I would have to imagine, even at

[Bryan Johnson]

the end of the day. Yeah, like, she's got an appointment. Like, you mean, she's like, I'm tired of being nice. Fuck you.

[Gideon]

The door closes.

[Dr. D]

I think that I. I treat people. I think I treat people the way that they treat me. So I'm nice to everyone. I think I'm very welcoming and chill, but if someone disrespects me, then it's game over. Or if you lie to my face and I catch you in a lie like people have done. Lie. Have done before.

[Q]

I say, like the service dog at the lie.

[Dr. D]

Wouldn't you. Not that kind of lie. Like, I had this guy that he lied to me about injecting testosterone and his numbers were all over the place. And I was doing this workup because I thought he had, like, testicular cancer. I was calling all these specialists, and I asked him. I asked him like, three times. Tell me the truth. Are you doing this? Because if you're not, you're in trouble.

[Q]

But.

[Dr. D]

And every single time with the law

[Q]

trouble, you have to report him.

[Dr. D]

No, no. Like, just. We're doing a. Like, you may have some sort of horrible condition. So I just need to know the truth. Are you doing this or not? Every time I asked him, he said no.

[Q]

And would there be signs of it?

[Dr. D]

And finally I got a letter from the consultant that I sent him to that said he fessed up. So I called him and I said, hey, I got the note. And he goes, yeah, I lied to you. I said, yeah, you did. And I did a lot of extra work because of it. So I was like, I think maybe we shouldn't continue.

[Bryan Johnson]

Dropped him as a client.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, why not?

[Q]

What would the benefits be to doing that, though? What would he get?

[Dr. D]

Why would he get a line?

[Q]

No, no, no. Why would he be injecting anything into.

[Dr. D]

He was a massively jacked human being.

[Q]

Oh. He was a bodybuilder.

[Dr. D]

100%. Like, he was huge and super muscular, wanted to look good.

[Q]

And so he was. What was he injecting?

[Dr. D]

Steroids, probably stuff he bought at the gym. You can buy it in the black market.

[Q]

Steroids.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. But the problem is when you're not doing it monitored, your numbers go through the roof. And then, like, horrible things start to happen. Or a doctor who thinks you're not taking it might think you might have a condition. Like, certain.

[Q]

Were you suspicious when he came in all jacked?

[Dr. D]

I was Suspicious. But that's why I asked. I asked him three separate times, and he. And he said a hundred percent no. And I, I.

[Bryan Johnson]

You probably thought he was gonna get in trouble with the law, right?

[Dr. D]

I don't know. After the third time, I was like, okay, I guess maybe he's being truthful. I don't know. You have to. You can't assume that. I don't know. And I'm sure people really aggravated me,

[Q]

but some people, I'm sure they lie by not. Is. Is. Would you consider omitting something? Lying because out of. Out of lying by embarrassment. Yeah. Lying by admission or lying because they're embarrassed.

[Walt Flanagan]

Every girl ever. I ever dated did.

[Dr. D]

It would depend on the case. I think if you lie to my face, whether you're my patient, my friend, or my family member, I'm gonna feel a certain way about it. I don't like liars, so I don't lie. I don't like liars. If you're gonna lie, you're. You're done.

[Q]

But if you. But if you're like, you know, like, let's say the guy is like, tons

[Gideon]

of water,

[Q]

It comes in a green can. Or the guy who comes in and he's like, you know, I fell on this light bulb. You know,

[Gideon]

he doesn't want it makes it a light bulb. We all know.

[Dr. D]

We all know you didn't fall on that light bulb. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'll go along with it to save face for some people, but.

[Q]

Because that's what I say. You're super nice, though.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. I mean, I would never, like.

[Q]

I know if I went in near a light bulb. I know there's some factors to be like, you know, they call me out immediately,

[Dr. D]

turn the lights out. What is it this time? We did have a case like that in the ER when I was an intern. Someone lost the. A dildo that was. It was supposed to be like, you

[Gideon]

know how it didn't have a flared end?

[Dr. D]

It didn't have. They didn't strap the wrist part on to some. They had like a wrist thing on it. You could stabilize it.

[Gideon]

Like a boogie board.

[Dr. D]

I don't know. It had like a thing on it.

[Gideon]

I was taking it for a walk.

[Walt Flanagan]

You laugh all you want. It sounds like it would have prevented

[Dr. D]

a lot of preventive mechanism that they

[Walt Flanagan]

did not use it for Nintendo. Why wouldn't I use it for my ass?

[Dr. D]

And it went all the way up, so they had to go to the.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, it always gets me confused about that. Like, why can't they Just poop it

[Dr. D]

out because it was too far up.

[Gideon]

Right.

[Walt Flanagan]

But everything starts up there.

[Dr. D]

It was motorized, so it's still on. I don't know. I didn't scrub it on the case, but they had go to the OR and sedate the person and then get a colonoscopy type thing to pull it out in the middle of the night, so the surgeon had to come in.

[Q]

Always happens at night, right? Never in the daytime.

[Dr. D]

Crazy. Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

Weird happens. If you do it during the day, there's something wrong with you.

[Dr. D]

And then there's people who like to swallow sharp objects. That's never a good time. Well, they like to do it either because they have, like, a fantasy to hurt themselves, or they're, like, into it

[Q]

and, like, at a sideshow.

[Bryan Johnson]

No. Freak.

[Dr. D]

No. I've never met any of those people. But, like, they'll just do it on purpose, and then someone has to come in and go down there and get everything.

[Q]

So when you were on, you said you were.

[Dr. D]

When I was a resident.

[Q]

Resident at the hospital, was that like. Was that like the. The whole wing was abuzz with. With the. With the story about the guy.

[Dr. D]

Everyone talks about things. Yeah. We'll get this X ray for bed six. Give yourself a treat. But, like, we don't see their names and stuff. Yeah, we keep it professional, but, you know, sometimes you just need something to break the monotony.

[Bryan Johnson]

Right.

[Q]

Well, that's what I'm gonna say. I'm watching Scrubs now, and it feels like that they use comedy a lot

[Bryan Johnson]

because of Dildo episode.

[Q]

If you guys didn't use comedy, it would be too traumatizing on your psyche. Right. Like to see.

[Bryan Johnson]

It's like cops and paramedics. You need that gallows sense of humor.

[Dr. D]

Q probably knows, too. Like, anyone who's a caregiver, service person, like firemen, firefighters, nurses, you see so much horrible things in the world that when you get home, you don't want to see something sad on tv. You want to laugh. You want to listen to a funny podcast. You want to watch a comedy.

[Walt Flanagan]

I have got the show for you tonight, 10pm on TBS.

[Dr. D]

Yes. So that's why I like to see things that are funny. But it is true. The show scrubs is definitely 150% written by someone who was in medicine, because every single character in that show I can equate to someone I've met in my life, and they probably still work at the hospital that I used to work at. So you use laughter as a way to get through the hard things, which I think a lot of humans do, but. But it is a very scarring profession for all of the people that are caregivers because those memories are with you and you got to break out of it somehow.

[Q]

I wanted to ask regarding scrubs though, like, do surgeons and doctors, do they like draw a line between each other? The way they show on the TV show, is there this kind of like, I'm a surgeon camp and I'm a doctor camp and they eat with the other surgeons and the doctors eat with other doctors. Is there this kind of like distance between them?

[Gideon]

Clicks?

[Dr. D]

Yeah, there are clicky because. And it's not in a bad way, but like the internal, the medicine people are more than nerdy people because we're doing all the behind the scenes work. We're making sure that the patients are staying alive during the night after they are operated on, keeping them alive so they don't die before the surgeon gets there to do the surgery. But we tend to get pushed into the nerdy scene because we're not doing, we're not, you know, scrubbing in and cutting people open and taking things out. So we're kind of like.

[Bryan Johnson]

Is that how they talk?

[Dr. D]

Yeah. And the surgeons, most of them do like think they're like, shit doesn't stink because they are beloved in the hospital and they walk around with their little scrub caps on and they, you know, they want, they, they get a lot of kudos because they do do a hard surgery is hard. It's a way longer residency than I had to do. So there is much respect for them. But they tend to be a little rough around the edges and pompous at times. But you really can't let that scare you because, you know, when it comes down to it, once they're out of the OR and you're in charge again, you're still keeping that patient alive. So much respect to them for doing that. But at the same time, is that

[Q]

all surgeons do is just surgery or do they have to do like put in hours of like treating people in a non surgical way?

[Dr. D]

They do the same internship as we all do and then they leave us and they go to do their five year surgical residency.

[Q]

Five years?

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Q]

So they just, they just.

[Dr. D]

So we only do two, they just three.

[Q]

And they watch a lot of surgery?

[Dr. D]

No, we just scrub in and help with all of them. So like you come in every day, you round on all the surgery patients. If there's a gallbladder, an appendix, a trauma, you have to scrub enough for all of them within reason, like don't

[Q]

you have to feel like you would have to be, like, to do that kind of work and open up bodies and get inside there. You have to be built differently.

[Gideon]

Right.

[Q]

I mean, it's like nothing really can, like, shake you or rattle you.

[Dr. D]

I think if you're. If you're working in a hospital like I did, or like a surgeon did with people who are extremely sick, you have to stay calm. Like, little. You can't let little things bother you because two people could be trying to die at the same time, and you have to try to fix both of them.

[Q]

Well, I mean. I mean, it's shaker rotting in terms of cutting open a. That's true.

[Dr. D]

So you have to be able to

[Q]

have insides of things that no, people

[Dr. D]

aren't meant to be seeing. Yeah. A strong stomach, a steady hand. I think you have to have physical capabilities to be on your feet for that long. Like, sometimes if you stand in one position for too long and it's hot in there, you feel like you're gonna pan out.

[Q]

Made a chair yet? Like a Professor X chair that kind of like.

[Dr. D]

Oh, the anesthesiologists sit. We don't. The surgeons don't sit.

[Q]

No, they get, like, these chairs that, like, let them take a little bit of weight off. Like, they're high chairs.

[Dr. D]

I mean, it's been a bar stool, you would think.

[Bryan Johnson]

Like a swivel chair into the operating room.

[Dr. D]

You would think it would be a good idea. But no, I don't think.

[Q]

I stand.

[Dr. D]

You stand. And I. Like, there's a couple times I almost went out because it's so hot.

[Gideon]

Don't lock your knees.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. Like, if you pull.

[Q]

I thought it was cold.

[Dr. D]

It is freezing in the hospital. But they pull these giant lights down so they can see everything, and they're burning up the back of your head. So, like, you have to be.

[Walt Flanagan]

What if they just use LEDs?

[Dr. D]

I don't know, because I have no freaking clue.

[Gideon]

The lights they use are specially designed. They don't cast shadows.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, well, I don't know how they pull that off. Why can't you position leds that way?

[Gideon]

I don't.

[Dr. D]

It'll probably get better, but I don't know.

[Walt Flanagan]

What about robot surgeons? Because I. I've been hearing a lot about this.

[Q]

Will AI actually one day replace human surgeons in every type of surgery?

[Dr. D]

I think it's possible that it will replace some surgeries because a lot of doctors do use robots with their own movements to do surgeries Now.

[Q]

My doctor did on me.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. So, I mean, it's so funny too. When we were in our surgical residency,

[Q]

it looked like C3PO.

[Dr. D]

It did. You were like, no, I anesthesia doc. I want to see the whole thing.

[Q]

Started insulting me like I was R2D2. Drink more water, idiot.

[Dr. D]

They actually, they separated us boys versus girls, which is funny to do this video game that would tell if you were going to be good at surgery in medical school. And because I play video games sometimes I got the highest score out of all the girls.

[Walt Flanagan]

Nice.

[Dr. D]

But it goes to show you that that hand eye coordination can help you because the and I, all the guys had high scores because they're probably more versed in that thing in that arena. Or maybe they're just. They were just better at the game, but they separated us to tell you, like, whether your skill set was appropriate for if you wanted to go into that.

[Q]

They won't use the board game Operation

[Dr. D]

Only After Hours.

[Gideon]

Have you ever seen this video where they stitch a great.

[Bryan Johnson]

You were watching a robot peel a grape and then stitch it. You say, get him.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, it's wild. Yeah. I mean, they're doing stuff like that. They're doing stuff like that now. But I don't know, there's something in my mind. I don't trust robots.

[Q]

Yeah.

[Dr. D]

Like, what if the thing has like a malfunction and it just goes. I've said this before.

[Q]

Our surgeon. Are there some surgeons who are like, I will not use a robot because they realize that, you know, sooner or later they're going to rebuild. They could replace surgeons, and I don't

[Dr. D]

know many surgeons anymore. But I would say that there's certain surgeries where you probably wouldn't even want to have to deal with a robot. Some surgeries are so straightforward, you wouldn't need it. Yeah, it's definitely a hard profession because you have to be able to. To be on your feet long hours and not feel sick in any way.

[Q]

You got to be sharp too. Right. You can't have an off day. You got to leave everything at home. You can't.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, but it's. I think that it's a. It's like that a lot in certain jobs where you have to concentrate. But. But yeah, you have to really be responsible.

[Bryan Johnson]

So you can't bring any baggage in. Like, man, my wife's slobbering over an 18 year old me. You can't bring that in.

[Dr. D]

Leave it at the door, brother.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, okay. Okay.

[Q]

I don't know if I asked you this last time.

[Bryan Johnson]

Wait, can we do a little couple ads here first of all.

[Q]

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[Bryan Johnson]

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[Dr. D]

Okay. I think he'll be okay with it.

[Bryan Johnson]

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[Bryan Johnson]

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[Bryan Johnson]

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[Gideon]

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[Walt Flanagan]

We should get a. If they call it Bluetooth gold, they should. Bluetooth blue. What is it? Bluetooth gold. They should get a leprechaun to do it. Oh, you got me gold.

[Bryan Johnson]

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[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, let's get Declan and maybe he could record a commercial.

[Bryan Johnson]

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[Walt Flanagan]

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[Bryan Johnson]

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[Walt Flanagan]

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[Bryan Johnson]

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[Walt Flanagan]

You get into a room, you pitch gold like that.

[Bryan Johnson]

Now, this one I'm not allowed to read word for word. We have to ad lib it.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, all right.

[Bryan Johnson]

And if you love jeans, emote tears are welcome. We're talking about perfect jeans. What's your biggest frustration with jeans? Get them. You don't really wear jeans, do you?

[Gideon]

In the winter?

[Bryan Johnson]

In the winter, you wear. Yeah, you're always in shorts, always seeing shorts. Jean shorts, maybe.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, that would be.

[Bryan Johnson]

Look a good look for you. Some jorts.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, I like jeans, you guys.

[Bryan Johnson]

Frustration with jeans. Q. Do you have one?

[Walt Flanagan]

I mean, usually it's me putting on a bunch of weight, not fitting into my jeans. Yeah, that's usually the issue.

[Bryan Johnson]

Let's see if perfect jeans can help you out with that.

[Walt Flanagan]

Okay.

[Bryan Johnson]

Do they usually feel like they're designed for someone else's body and mind? And if so, what? If so, what do you think his or her reaction was? I don't know what that means. Most dads have been wearing the same jeans for 15, 20 years. Not because they love them, because shopping for pants is a chore they've been putting off. The jeans are stiff. They're unflattering the gap at the back. They pull in at the thighs.

[Gideon]

I don't.

[Walt Flanagan]

The stiff jeans, I don't get. Like, people will buy jeans and never wash them. And I'm like, don't you want, like, one clean, soft, nice jeans?

[Bryan Johnson]

They say you wash them every 10 times or something. You don't like that?

[Walt Flanagan]

I mean, what if they get Spilly? I've gone 10 times, but whatever. I don't think so, though. Like, what is the point not washing jeans? Some people put them in the freezer.

[Bryan Johnson]

Freezer, huh?

[Q]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

You never heard that one?

[Bryan Johnson]

No.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah. Some people, like, put jeans in the

[Gideon]

freezer to clean them, probably because it kills the bacteria.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, I've heard that before.

[Dr. D]

Huh?

[Bryan Johnson]

Really?

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

Never heard that. Let's see here

[Gideon]

about that.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, I'd have to ask him more of a perf.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, yeah. Because anytime I wear jeans, I've worn jeans by that. Buy some nice jeans. And Ming is always like, hey, are those blah, blah, blah.

[Bryan Johnson]

He always knows.

[Walt Flanagan]

And I'm like, what's the name of this perfect jeans? And I'm like, no, Ming. They're perfect jeans. And he thinks they're more expensive than they are.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, dude, let me tell you something. Are they actually worth 79.99? Most jeans at this price cut corners where you can't see them. And the perfect jean doesn't. They have the best zippers in the world, which Are YKK zippers. So the one that snags on your current pair. Gone. The belt loops, you want them starting to pull away, do you?

[Walt Flanagan]

No, no.

[Bryan Johnson]

These are reinforced. Nice higher stitches per inch throughout. The difference between a seam that holds and one that slowly gives out at the worst possible moment.

[Gideon]

It's like that scene in Hudsucker Proxy when he's hanging out the building.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah.

[Gideon]

Yes, yes. Yeah. Double. You know, I give him double seams.

[Bryan Johnson]

Thank you for that current reference. Get him. What was that? 93, 94.

[Q]

That movie you've had not much to say. When you're dropping Charlie Chan, you really can't go back.

[Bryan Johnson]

I was going to cut that out.

[Walt Flanagan]

Now you're way more current than that.

[Bryan Johnson]

They have deep pockets that can fit your phone, your keys, your wallet without that weird bulge that ruins the whole silhouette. Waist from 26 to 52. Lengths from 26 to 38. Six fits from skinny to thick. Thirteen washes. That's over 5,000 combinations. Which means the guy who's been buying a size up in waist just to get the room in the thighs. Guys who's been hemming every pair he owns. And the guy who's been told by every other brand that his body is the problem. The real answer.

[Walt Flanagan]

I assure you, my body is the problem.

[Bryan Johnson]

Here's a 245 pound guy who wrote, normally when I buy jeans, I have to. The waist is 40 and the legs and the butt are huge. But with the perfect jeans, he's able to wear size 38 due to the stretchy quality and the fit is awesome. Let's see, listeners. You get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at theperfectgene NYC or Google the perfect gene and use code TESD15 for 15% off. That's 15% off your first order plus Free Shipping at theperfectgene NYC Or Google the perfect gene and use code tesd15 for 15% off. And then we just got one more new. Not a new one. One from last week because I walked in this week Q and Walt was like, who is that blue collar guy?

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, so these are the boots.

[Bryan Johnson]

These are the boots.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, yeah.

[Dr. D]

Whoa.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, look at that.

[Dr. D]

I like them a lot. I really do.

[Gideon]

Bet you could stand for surgery for hours and know you probably could.

[Walt Flanagan]

You know what, I appreciate that they have the. They don't have the holes for the top two lace. They have those brackets that you just wrap it around. That makes it so much easier. The top ones being that.

[Bryan Johnson]

Agreed.

[Q]

How long did you have to wear Them before you. You like break them in.

[Bryan Johnson]

You don't have to wear them at all. They're broken in already.

[Q]

Broken in already?

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

It's one of the beautiful things.

[Q]

No blisters.

[Bryan Johnson]

Let's see. Where is it?

[Gideon]

Here?

[Bryan Johnson]

It's somewhere in here. Oh, my God. The print is so small. Even with this glasses, I can't read it. This gear is for trade workers. It's mostly for blue collar guys. Let's see. Hosts will share their first experience with front boots. How they felt pulling them out of the box. What surprised me the most, the comfort, the weight or the flexibility? You're gonna ask me to pick one? Brunt, Come on now. That's unfair. They asked us to show them on camera, but we don't have a camera. Blue collar roots founder Eric Girard grew up in the trades. He built Brunt because legacy brands stopped listening and became fashion companies.

[Walt Flanagan]

That's true.

[Bryan Johnson]

Every product is named after a real tradesman that helped design the gear. Tough. First comfortable. Most boots force you to choose one or the other, but brought front. Front built gear is tough as hell, but comfortable on day one. I gotta admit, they are very comfortable. They're very soft. They don't like. There's no pinching parts or any of that kind of.

[Q]

And we didn't get any brunts.

[Bryan Johnson]

Did you order brunts?

[Walt Flanagan]

I didn't give them my sizes yet. We were asked.

[Q]

Oh, I had to give your. Give your size?

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, I sent you that thing and you said, I don't like boots.

[Gideon]

Yeah, Walt's the size 12.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, you got to pick the model you want too. I'm going to get those cowboy boots ones.

[Bryan Johnson]

Pretty nice. Yeah, pretty cool.

[Gideon]

You say those boots are be made for walking?

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, it sure would.

[Walt Flanagan]

Sure would. Get him.

[Q]

Boy, they're going backwards. They're going backwards, bro.

[Bryan Johnson]

It's.

[Walt Flanagan]

It's how proud he was when he said it. That's this, that's the fun part. Like he got a real. Would you say those boots are made for walking? Home run.

[Bryan Johnson]

Let's see. Pronunciation. The Marin. Like Karen in the Omen. Like Omen. Zero break in. No weeks of blisters. They feel good the second you pull them out of the box. High quality build without the heavy, uncomfortable feel of traditional boots.

[Q]

Do you have any thigh high boots?

[Bryan Johnson]

I didn't see any.

[Q]

That's what I'm looking for.

[Bryan Johnson]

You're looking for some thigh highs. Thigh high work boots they do make. I have seen like ones that go up to your knees practically.

[Q]

You know, when I'm delivering door dash. I want to make sure completely protected.

[Bryan Johnson]

Strut up to the, to the door.

[Gideon]

There might be rattlesnakes hidden in the.

[Bryan Johnson]

Brunt is celebrating America's 250th anniversary with a special collection of limited edition gear. It's a tribute to the blue collar workers who have helped build America for generations. The collection launches in July. Will only be available for limited time. Quantities are limited so they expect to sell out quickly. And if you've been thinking about upgrading your workwear, now is the time to do it. Risk free trial. They not only let you wear their boots to work before deciding if you're right, they're right for you. Real job site days, not just walking around the house. And the first like.

[Q]

And you place the order for me.

[Bryan Johnson]

No, I give you, I sent you the thing. Yeah, I'm not the Brunt intermediary because

[Q]

Q said you didn't give Bri your shoe size.

[Bryan Johnson]

And I'm like no, no, no, you didn't give them your shoe size.

[Q]

If I responded to the text, Brunt would have known.

[Bryan Johnson]

No, no, you have to fill it. You, you tap the thing. It's a chrome. Like not a chrome but like a safari. All you have to do is tap something and then put in your, put in your sizes and you're good. You would look awesome in those cowboy boots.

[Q]

I would.

[Walt Flanagan]

10 inch tall, soft toe, waterproof mid

[Bryan Johnson]

calf, soft toe wall. You're going to look beautiful. All you got to do is tap that little link that I sent you, put in your information, you're good to go. All right, all right. 100%.

[Q]

Are they free? Are they, am I paying them?

[Bryan Johnson]

No, they're free. Oh, they're free. Yeah, don't worry about that. Brunt's taking care of you. Stop over paying for workwear that doesn't last. For a limited time. Our listeners can get $10 off by going to bruntworkware.com tesd and then use the code TESD at checkout. This is top tier gear for an incredible price. Plus with a risk free trial, there's no reason not to give them a shot. That's right. $10 off bruntworkware.com tesd then use code TESD at checkout.

[Walt Flanagan]

I wonder if they do custom work.

[Bryan Johnson]

Thank you, Brunt.

[Walt Flanagan]

See they got the eagle on the side there. I wonder if they would be willing to do a four color demons.

[Bryan Johnson]

You could only ask. Yeah, the only thing you can do

[Walt Flanagan]

because then we would have an official boot.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, that would be great.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, are you Kidding me? It'd be awesome.

[Dr. D]

That's a good idea.

[Q]

Burn it in like a brand. Like, you know, that. See how the brunch.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, right, right.

[Dr. D]

The company.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah. Like, if we sent you something, could you burn it in for us? Like a little image? All right, we'll ask him.

[Walt Flanagan]

Who's gonna ask him?

[Bryan Johnson]

I'll text. I'll have Marybeth do it.

[Walt Flanagan]

All right.

[Q]

What's the proper footwear? I imagine not a lot of doctors wear boots to work, right? Or there's a more. Like, a more.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, they all wear Crocs.

[Dr. D]

We wear, like, Danskos or Clogs.

[Q]

Something comfortable.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, like Brunt.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Dr. D]

But I have seen. I have seen a couple of residents wear cowboy boots sometimes.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Dr. D]

Especially the ones from the was.

[Gideon]

Now you go, your doctor's wearing cowboy boots. Walt, you trust him more or.

[Q]

I don't think I partner.

[Bryan Johnson]

Let me check that roll.

[Walt Flanagan]

Calling for you, doggy.

[Gideon]

He's going to rope that prostate right here.

[Q]

I don't even think I'd even notice

[Bryan Johnson]

his shoes, what he's wearing.

[Q]

I'd be. I'm just so. Like, the anxiety would be through the roof just being in a doctor's office. So he could be wearing nothing?

[Bryan Johnson]

Not really.

[Q]

Well, I mean, bare feet.

[Bryan Johnson]

I've had bare feet. I mean.

[Q]

Although I might notice bare feet.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, probably would.

[Bryan Johnson]

A work boot store next to us. Yeah. Can you buy. I don't even know if you can buy Brunt. Not online. Oh, yeah. Brunt. Bestsellers Online.

[Dr. D]

They have a lot of stores.

[Bryan Johnson]

Select retail stores.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Gideon]

Looks like there's one in Edison.

[Bryan Johnson]

One in Edison, huh?

[Q]

Oh, well.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, that's nearby us. All right. Walt. Sorry for interrupting. I know you had.

[Q]

Oh, I just had a couple questions. I didn't know if I asked you the last time you're here, do you have a favorite moment as a doctor? Like, a moment that, like, man, this one, I'll hold on to her for a while. It felt so good.

[Bryan Johnson]

And when you got that diploma, you're like, I'm done with medical school.

[Dr. D]

Oh, gosh. It's a hard question because you have a lot of good moments. I think that when I would say there's not one experience, but I think when you run, I think the one thing that I have always, like, can remember is when someone would, like, code or stop basically trying to die, their heart would stop or they'd stop breathing. The times where I was successful in bringing them back, I feel like that was, like.

[Q]

How many times have you done that?

[Dr. D]

A lot. Because I worked in the ICU for 10 years, and those are the sickest of the sick.

[Bryan Johnson]

And have you ever met anybody that was like, what the fuck? I was dead. No. And you fucked it up on me.

[Dr. D]

No one had ever done that to me.

[Bryan Johnson]

Nobody was happy.

[Dr. D]

And a lot of people that you save don't remember because they're out of it. They're so sick, they have no memories.

[Q]

Maybe they went, like, did anything or, like, out of, like, a religious experience where they were in heaven. And did they recount anything like that to you?

[Dr. D]

Not. No. I haven't had anyone. I haven't had anyone tell me anything like that. But I think those particular moments are the ones that you. The reason that you do what you do. Like, you know, they always stick with you.

[Q]

Are you using those electrical.

[Dr. D]

Like, so when you. So usually the nurse. The nurse does that for you when you run the coach, because the nurses are your team. So you stand at the edge of the bed and you watch the monitor, and you tell. And it's protocol. You have to tell everybody what to do. So this nurse does this. You push this drug. You do this, and then someone will probably be doing cpr. And then you're watching the monitor, assessing the rhythm, and then giving the drug as you see fit. So, like, one time, it was, like, as simple as, like, a woman had. She just was sitting up, and she just went out, and he looked at the monitor. It was a specific arrhythmia. I said to the nurse, like, give this drug. I gave the drug. Boop. Right back. That's like a really baby aspirin. Tic tac. Boop. No, but it was like, those are the experiences that are really rewarding, and those are the ones you remember, but you don't have one moment that sticks out.

[Q]

Do you ever do the thing with the compressions?

[Dr. D]

You do sometimes, yeah. Like, you know, if you don't have any help and you're by yourself, but usually people come to your aid and help you. I know one time we had the paddles, and we almost all died because it was my first code I ever ran. And we went. So we had to take the patient from the cardiac floor to the ICU in the middle of the night. So all the nurses and myself shoved the patient in the elevator and tried to get down to the bottom floor, which her heart stopped again. So we had the shocker again. But then I realized we're inside a metal box with the paddles. We're all gonna get electrocuted. So the nurse goes to turn the machine on. And I was like. And I don't know, maybe we wouldn't have got electrocuted, but I thought of it, and I'm like, stop. Everybody off the elevator. So we got off the service elevator, went out into the hallway, shocked the patient, and then went back in the elevator and went down. But we all.

[Q]

Would they have been electrocuted? Get him.

[Gideon]

I would. They were on a gurney.

[Dr. D]

We're in a metal box.

[Gideon]

Were you on a gurney, though?

[Dr. D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gideon]

I would say the gurney's probably grounded. Grounded? Y. You think or sorry. Insulated.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. So, like, those types of experiences you never forget because they're successful.

[Walt Flanagan]

Did you ever lose a patience that you were like, good riddance?

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah.

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

You, like, kind of did it.

[Walt Flanagan]

Like, you did everything that you could. You did everything that you could. But, like, when they died, you were like, off.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, good.

[Walt Flanagan]

Off to the afterlife.

[Bryan Johnson]

There is. You can tell.

[Dr. D]

Oh, no.

[Walt Flanagan]

That wasn't an instant.

[Q]

No.

[Dr. D]

I think of certain experiences where people have called me obscenities, like, you know, like, there's people who just be like, get out of my room, bitch. Like, or like, because they don't want to be bothered, or they have mental health issues, or they don't want you to be discharged. You don't want. They don't want you to discharge them from the hospital because then they're going to be out in the street. So they're combative towards you because they don't want your help. Those are the people I'm not sad to see go. Because there's only so much verbal abuse that you can take in one day before you're like, I don't feel like doing this.

[Bryan Johnson]

Tell that to Mary Beth.

[Dr. D]

But, yeah, I mean, there's no one I wished ill on, but there's some people where you're just like, good, get them out of here. They're so abusive.

[Walt Flanagan]

You're saying, get them out of the hospital? I'm talking about no getting out of the hospital.

[Dr. D]

Only the good die young. So usually the people that are nasty live forever. They're hard to kill.

[Bryan Johnson]

Do you find that some nurses are too big for their britches? I always hear about nurses being like, we do all the work. The doctors don't do shit.

[Dr. D]

So there's usually one or two that you don't get along with, and that's personality conflicts, but they're like your lifeline. Like, because I would just. I, I. When I would be on call by myself for the night in the icu, I would just peek in the door and see who was working that night. And if I saw the. Like, some of the. That were working, I'm like, no. But then if I saw all my girls that I liked or guys. There wasn't that many guys that were nurses at the time, I would be like, yes, my favorite nurses are here. And it's going to be so good because we all get along. Then there's the ones that want to fight you for some reason, and you're like, come on, can we just get along so this night goes faster.

[Q]

So you mentioned that that first time you were. It was your. You were in charge of somebody, the code. So, like, that shift, like, was there. Like, you. You knew that sooner or later it's going to happen. Like, you're. Sooner or later this is going to happen, and you're going to have to be the one to, like, start barking out all the orders. Is that kind of like just like waiting for that moment? Because it's going inevitably it's going to happen. Like, do you rather have it happen right away or is the longer it goes, the more you get in your head?

[Dr. D]

I mean, every code blue in the hospital, you have to go to. So it could happen five times a day, could happen zero times. It really depends on. It's literally luck of the draw. But I'd rather get it over early because the later it gets in the day, no one's around.

[Q]

No, I meant that first time. It's your, like, you know, like, you're on your own. You're on your own. Like, it's just going to be your. Like you're.

[Gideon]

You're in charge.

[Dr. D]

It. Actually, that's funny you say that. The first night I was on call by myself, it happened, like, with. Within one hour of the shift. And that was the elevator incident. I'll never forget that because I was like, man, like one hour, just already one hour into the shift and I already have to do this. But it's part of the job. And fortunately, you've a lot of people there to help you. The nurses know what to do. But it is kind of scary being the one in charge of it all. You can't slip up.

[Q]

When I seen it on Scrubs, like, you have to make the call. Like, you have to make the pronouncement that they're gone.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. So after a while, if you know, because you know you have to say, enough's enough, like, stop.

[Q]

Everybody stop trying.

[Dr. D]

But usually go for. Usually try as hard as you can for as much as you can. But after a while, when things stop working, they stop working.

[Q]

Have you ever had to deliver like. Like in scrubs? Like, they have to deliver to the family, like, bad, bad news. Have you ever been. Had to go out to the waiting

[Dr. D]

room all the time? Yeah. So can I. This is why I used to be so shy and scared. One night in the middle of the night, 40 family members came into the. Into the family room because one of them, a mother of the family, the matron of family, was ill, and the nurse came in and said, you need to. I need you to go out and talk to these people. So I'm like, oh, it's probably, you know, like, one or two people, son and daughter. 40 people who. I don't know, crying, eating food. Everyone's hanging out in this family room, and I'm like. Like, oh, my God. Like, I have to tell them. I have to tell them that it's, like, really not going well. Like, once you get maxed out on four medications and you're not getting any better, what's left? Magic, you know? So. Believe in magic. So I just said, listen, it's not going well. We're doing everything we can. I lay it out on the table. I will continue to try for the rest of the night as hard as I can, but I can't promise you that this is gonna have a good outcome. I apologize in advance if it doesn't, but I will keep you posted every hour. But talking in front of 40 people who are all edged up because they're. Or not edged up. I don't know what the word is. Like, amped up because they're worried is like, you know, you're sweating through your scrubs because you're like, oh, my God. And I'm like. That's when you get. You're not afraid to talk in front of people anymore. After that, you get. You do it so much that you kind of become. As long as you're being honest and

[Bryan Johnson]

start to enjoy it.

[Dr. D]

No, you don't ever enjoy it.

[Walt Flanagan]

I'll take this one.

[Bryan Johnson]

No, no, no. Me, me, me.

[Dr. D]

I think that's. You get better at it.

[Q]

See, I think I as. Like, I would be so loathe. I would. I couldn't. Like, you're. You kind of told them, like, it's not looking good. I would. I would see that. That sorrow and that sadness, and I would be. I would be. I know I would be inclined to be, like. Like, it's gonna be okay.

[Dr. D]

No,

[Q]

it's gonna be good. It's good.

[Bryan Johnson]

We got. We'll be Right back.

[Walt Flanagan]

He's fine. He's fine. He came out. He's good.

[Q]

I just want to get out of that room. Like, he'll be going home soon.

[Bryan Johnson]

Give him another 10 years.

[Gideon]

Can. Yes. Get in four hours.

[Bryan Johnson]

What?

[Gideon]

You can ask again in four hours. I'm off in three.

[Dr. D]

You have. Your nature is to try to do that, but you can't. You can't tell someone when it's. It's going to be all right, when it's not going to be all right. So you have to just like, hide it. You can't say it.

[Q]

You just got to be brutally honest.

[Dr. D]

You have to lay the facts on the table and you have to be honest and push down that sugar coating. You can't sugarcoat life and death. Like, you just.

[Q]

You are.

[Bryan Johnson]

So is your mother.

[Q]

Have you ever seen anybody, like, sugar coat it and then have to like, kind of go out and then say, you know. Because I would. I know I would be. I would be like, yeah, it's not as bad as it seems.

[Dr. D]

I. Most of the time.

[Bryan Johnson]

What is death anyway?

[Gideon]

Really?

[Dr. D]

Most of the time. I've worked in the middle of the night on these situ. Like, you're by yourself. There's no other doctors there to run the. The unit but you. So, you know, I don't really witness other doctors make speeches like, and stuff. I don't know. I think a lot of.

[Q]

But I'm sure you have to go out though, and deliver good news, too.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, that's the great part.

[Q]

Like.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I mean, a lot of. There's been a lot of great calls and a lot of saves. And those are the ones where you're like, oh, yes, good. But there's a lot of bad ones, too. The people that are. Go to the intensive care unit are the six people in the hospital and 50% of them probably won't make it. Or maybe less than that. Don't quote me on that.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah. Really.

[Dr. D]

I would say it depends on the situation. If I would say maybe that might have been a little bit high, I would say maybe 30. Maybe 30. Yeah. Because a lot of people wait too long to seek out medical care and those are the ones that are in the most trouble. Yeah.

[Q]

How do you leave it at the office? I know you mentioned you like to watch funny TV.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Q]

Like Jokers.

[Walt Flanagan]

Premiering Thursday. Thursday, 10pm CBS. Very funny. If you're a doctor, if you've just told the family that highest rated original. Someone died, Dr. D. You just go ahead. Just go ahead.

[Dr. D]

Oh, yeah.

[Q]

How do you leave it Fair. So, like, when you go home, do you talk about it or.

[Dr. D]

I think if it's really. I think if it's really bad, it's hard to leave it all there. Like, if you have some really bad days, it's hard to leave it all behind. But I think, you know, distractions are always good.

[Q]

You know, what do you use to distract yourself? Do you go on, like, walks?

[Dr. D]

Yeah, I like being hot Bath Frank five style. No, I'm just kidding. I would say probably just comedy. I like to be outside. I like to exercise. I like to run, like go running and stuff just to kind of clear my head. Cause if you're focusing on trying to run and not die, you can't think of much else. So, yeah, I think I have healthy distractions.

[Walt Flanagan]

Do you try and find, like, the beauty in everyday things? Like if you're a Golden Corral and you see that chocolate fountain and you're like, this is beautiful.

[Q]

This is God's work.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, this is. I'm seeing the symmetry of the Lord's work in this.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. I think you appreciate things a little bit differently when you get to leave and go home and all those people don't. That are still there and you're like,

[Walt Flanagan]

yeah, I get to suck my ass, people. I'm going to Golden Corral.

[Dr. D]

Check you later.

[Walt Flanagan]

I've.

[Gideon]

I've heard. I've heard Tetris can.

[Dr. D]

Oh, like games like that. Yeah. Solitaire and stuff is good. Just mindless.

[Walt Flanagan]

That's a good time.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

Do you ever feel like, you ever see malice? Alec Baldwin, he's. He's a doctor and there's a great speech in it where, like, somebody's like, hey, like, you act like God and, and in the surgery room at the very end, he's just like, you know, you ask if I have a God complex. Let me tell you something. I am God.

[Walt Flanagan]

He goes, when people are praying for their family to get. Get through a surgery, who do you think they're praying to?

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, they're praying to me. You ever feel that way? It's great. You should watch it.

[Dr. D]

I never feel that way.

[Walt Flanagan]

It's a great speech.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah.

[Dr. D]

I don't ever feel that way. I just don't. I don't know why. I don't think like that. I'm not wired. I don't think I'm wired to think like that. No. I don't think I'm that great. There's always someone better than me. I don't know. No, you don't. Thank you.

[Bryan Johnson]

Somebody's got to be the best.

[Dr. D]

That was so sweet. But there's always someone better than you.

[Bryan Johnson]

I agree. It's so many ways.

[Walt Flanagan]

What my parents told me.

[Bryan Johnson]

Gonna set you straight, boy.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah. Let's get the facts out early.

[Q]

Do you resent Google?

[Walt Flanagan]

Google more or the AI more?

[Dr. D]

I. Well, they had. They do tell patients wrong things. Like, you've probably seen things where. It was like, how there was this one thing that someone was showing me where it said, it's probably inappropriate, but they googled something. It was like, yes, you can steam your balls to get the wrinkles out of them, and you just use an iron or a steamer. This was Google.

[Gideon]

I think Gwyneth Paltrow advertised that.

[Dr. D]

So if it's gonna go that far in telling people to do stuff like that, because I think this was a real thing. I saw on Instagram.

[Walt Flanagan]

Jesus.

[Dr. D]

That people will read it and be like, yeah, that's the right thing. And it's.

[Bryan Johnson]

It's on the Internet.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. It's not now, granted. If you, like, you really need medical.

[Q]

How smooth do you need them?

[Dr. D]

The. The. The recommendations, you mean?

[Bryan Johnson]

What do you had? No complaints so far.

[Q]

The balls. I.

[Bryan Johnson]

Smooth.

[Dr. D]

I know.

[Q]

No, they're not. But I'm like, how smooth do you need them?

[Bryan Johnson]

Right, Right.

[Dr. D]

I think it's. That's.

[Walt Flanagan]

I like a little texture on the balls.

[Dr. D]

I think that's. Yeah, it depends on what I like.

[Bryan Johnson]

When I'm freezing, they're shrunk up. It's not that big.

[Dr. D]

Again, Stanley Steamer call Stanley.

[Q]

That is something that. Like an Internet craze.

[Dr. D]

I just. I had. I'll give you an example. I had a woman who came in for a sick visit. She a. She AI'd everything that I should have done for her. And before I even could access assess her, she handed me the phone and said, this is what I need to do. And I was like, I. So I. I turned the phone down and I said, why don't we just talk and then I'll examine you and then we'll see if my recommendations match the phone. And they did. So that was an example of where she probably knew what she was getting herself into, etc. But that's a dangerous line to tow if you don't really know what you're doing. Because if you don't go to the doctor and you're like, I'll just do this. Could end up dead.

[Q]

And if you're a hypochondriac, like, if

[Dr. D]

you're hypochondriac, then you were dead yesterday. Because you see the most horrible thing. Thing, it's going to tell you the worst thing ever. So, I mean, respect for educating yourself, but you should check in with a professional at the same time.

[Q]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

All right. Good advice from Dr. D. Yeah.

[Q]

I wanted to ask you personally, I think I did Google this.

[Dr. D]

Okay.

[Walt Flanagan]

All right, 20.

[Bryan Johnson]

I googled it.

[Q]

You said yes, I googled what I think I might have. And it's a mild case. Case of aquagenic ureticaria. Have you heard of this? I might be pronouncing it wrong. Most definitely. Probably I'm mangling that way.

[Dr. D]

I've never heard of it.

[Q]

It is an extremely rare condition when someone may be allergic to water. And I think I have a mild case of it because, like, I just can't. Like, I'm in this. I've had this for four hours. I can't drink at all.

[Dr. D]

Because you're in pain?

[Q]

No, because I'm just get. I feel like I get full. I don't think I absorb water like a natural person.

[Walt Flanagan]

But last week you were talking about the parks.

[Q]

I know, but it was an effort though.

[Walt Flanagan]

Like, I was across the water like a lizard.

[Q]

I was, but at the cost of like, it took hours to get to that state where I was hydrated enough.

[Dr. D]

But it says you would present with an actual allergic reaction.

[Q]

Yeah, I feel like a bloated allergic reaction.

[Dr. D]

I don't think so.

[Q]

No. Okay.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, just a. Maybe you have a little bit of acid reflux and it's causing the water to make it worse. Really pushing the acid up a little more. So you're not like doing well with it.

[Q]

But I don't have it like for other liquids though.

[Dr. D]

Really?

[Q]

Yeah, Like.

[Gideon]

Oh, yeah, he could down Grape Aid. Like nothing.

[Q]

Yeah, Grape Aid goes down so easy. I could drink Grape Aid. Like, I could drink like 15 bottles and not feel any.

[Gideon]

But only found Coke, not canned Coke.

[Dr. D]

I don't know, I've never heard of that. I think you would have a more systemic reaction for the.

[Q]

I said mild.

[Dr. D]

Mild.

[Q]

Mild. You know, but again, I would have

[Dr. D]

to research it and let you know, but I don't.

[Q]

It's very rare too, though. And what's the odds that I have.

[Dr. D]

Probably low.

[Q]

Right.

[Walt Flanagan]

I. I have a. I'd like to get your advice on something.

[Gideon]

Sure.

[Walt Flanagan]

How many nights in a row could I take Advil PMS to help me fall asleep before we're looking at an issue?

[Dr. D]

So the only thing that I would be worried about with the Advil PM is the Advil part. Because the Advil is Not great for your blood pressure and your kidneys. So if you take too much Advil, Aleve or Naproxen, you can get kidney issues.

[Walt Flanagan]

So three full bottles worth night after night.

[Dr. D]

Wait, what?

[Walt Flanagan]

No, like I've gone through three bottles.

[Dr. D]

Oh.

[Walt Flanagan]

Just. I'm taking two a night.

[Dr. D]

Two a night may not hurt you, but I don't think it's a great habit.

[Walt Flanagan]

Okay, so just get the. The pills that's just asleep and stuff.

[Dr. D]

Have or talk to your doctor about maybe something else that you could get.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, you know, he gave me some stuff.

[Bryan Johnson]

Talk to your friend about some Zandies.

[Walt Flanagan]

He gave me some Zannies to sleep in a work great. But they don't want to give you the Zannies.

[Bryan Johnson]

Have you tried melatonin, Dr. Bry?

[Walt Flanagan]

I've tried melatonin. It's done for me. The only thing that does is some PMS. Where are my PMS?

[Bryan Johnson]

Give me my PM. God damn it.

[Gideon]

Because it takes me like 40 milligrams of melatonin to.

[Walt Flanagan]

No Melatonin. Don't do it for me. I've tried it. It won't do it.

[Dr. D]

You're not even supposed to take that much.

[Q]

Yeah, you're in a slow motion already. Why do you need to slow down?

[Bryan Johnson]

It's everything to help him fall asleep.

[Gideon]

Because I'm up to like constantly not what I'm supposed to be. I don't get to sleep till like 4 or 5 o' clock in the morning.

[Q]

Because you're sleeping all day.

[Gideon]

That's because I'm not getting to sleep before or five o' clock in the morning.

[Walt Flanagan]

Why are you making this about you? I'm trying to get medical advice. And you just fucking turning it to you.

[Q]

What about the volcano too?

[Walt Flanagan]

Jesus Christ, man. I can't get a fucking water.

[Dr. D]

I wouldn't do the Advil part.

[Walt Flanagan]

Okay, so just get. But if I just take those. The pills that's without the Advil. I don't know if you've heard this before, but it makes my palms itchy for some reason.

[Dr. D]

With the Benadryl portion.

[Walt Flanagan]

No. Yeah, the dip, the. That stuff.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, that's Benadryl.

[Walt Flanagan]

If I just take those pills like my. My palms start itching a little bit

[Dr. D]

of a react like an allergic reaction.

[Walt Flanagan]

But if I take it in the PMS with that in doesn't help because it anti inflammatory.

[Dr. D]

Oh yeah. So 148. Doctor.

[Q]

Doctor 148. Paging Doctor 148.

[Dr. D]

You might have a little bit of an allergy, man.

[Walt Flanagan]

I Have to apologize when I'm wrong.

[Dr. D]

I would say you're probably. Maybe a little. You might have a little bit of an allergy to Benadryl, which is odd.

[Walt Flanagan]

Okay.

[Dr. D]

But I mean, that's definitely a symptom.

[Bryan Johnson]

But they're supposed to take. For allergies, right?

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Gideon]

Like my father had the. Where he took the heparin and he got blood clots from it.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. Heparin allergy. I would just. I really would be careful with the Advil situation.

[Walt Flanagan]

Would you rather I take. Take Xanax?

[Dr. D]

That could be addictive.

[Q]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

So, I mean, every night anyway.

[Dr. D]

There are some other things too, that are mild, you can get prescriptions for, from your doctor.

[Walt Flanagan]

Like, what do you. What would you like?

[Dr. D]

There's Sonata, there's.

[Walt Flanagan]

I don't want to take that Wacky. That makes you Twitter race the stuff at 1:00am no. Yeah, that really, you know, that brought down a few people over there.

[Dr. D]

There's like varying degrees. Like, some of them are like straight up tranquilizers, but other ones are just like a little sprinkle of something.

[Q]

What about that stuff Michael took?

[Dr. D]

Propofol?

[Q]

Yeah, Propofol cube.

[Gideon]

What's that?

[Walt Flanagan]

What is it?

[Q]

The stuff Michael Jackson took?

[Gideon]

The. Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

Hey, man, at this point, you'd have

[Dr. D]

to rob a hospital to get your hands on Propofol.

[Gideon]

So Echo Q is on Propofol again.

[Q]

It might be famous enough for a listener who works in hospital to start sneaking out Propofol for you.

[Gideon]

That's great. Was that doctor still around or did he get out of jail?

[Q]

Out.

[Gideon]

What doctor? The doctor that.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, Michael Jackson. I think he's out.

[Dr. D]

People think he's still alive and not really dead.

[Bryan Johnson]

Maybe Michael Jackson or the Dr. Michael Jackson.

[Dr. D]

There's conspiracy theories that he never really died.

[Walt Flanagan]

Wow.

[Dr. D]

He just wanted to get away from everyone.

[Gideon]

Would a class fan be a reference? Be a little too dated?

[Bryan Johnson]

Probably. It is.

[Dr. D]

Talk to your doc.

[Walt Flanagan]

Q. Yeah.

[Q]

You have a problem sleeping?

[Bryan Johnson]

Huh?

[Walt Flanagan]

I. I can't sleep anymore.

[Bryan Johnson]

What about Sarah Quinn?

[Walt Flanagan]

I take something Seroquel.

[Dr. D]

Yeah, that's an antipsychotic.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, I know. So we won't go crazy. Plus, he'll sleep.

[Dr. D]

Side effects? You just have to figure it out. I don't know anything about your medical history, but there's other things out there.

[Gideon]

Nitrous.

[Dr. D]

And don't look on screens late at night either.

[Walt Flanagan]

I'm pretty good about that.

[Dr. D]

Okay. Good.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, yeah, I'm pretty good about it. I usually read.

[Q]

What about if you exercise before bed?

[Gideon]

Yeah.

[Walt Flanagan]

What's that?

[Q]

Exercise before Bed.

[Walt Flanagan]

Well, to do that, I have to exercise at all, so I gotta start that. But it's just hard when we're shooting the show.

[Q]

It's like on a treadmill before you go.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah, I know, it's. I know. You're right.

[Dr. D]

Do you drink a lot of coffee?

[Walt Flanagan]

I don't drink any coffee. I drink tea. I drink a lot of tea.

[Dr. D]

It might be caffeine too.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah. But I usually try and stop that, you know, reasonable times.

[Gideon]

Maybe. Maybe try a nighttime tea. Like one that has sleepy time tea.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, God, you. Sleepy time tea.

[Walt Flanagan]

I'll just take my Coke. Yeah, yeah, I'll drink my Coke and. And do it. But you got them Xanas.

[Bryan Johnson]

Not on me. Not me.

[Walt Flanagan]

Zombies work real well.

[Q]

And finally, I have. Have you ever treated something called hairy tongue disease?

[Dr. D]

No, but I've seen it in textbooks.

[Q]

You've seen it, huh?

[Dr. D]

Not in real life. Only in pictures.

[Q]

Like, you sprout green hairs on your tongue.

[Dr. D]

They're black.

[Q]

They could be green.

[Dr. D]

I've never seen the Green Show.

[Bryan Johnson]

Vern.

[Walt Flanagan]

Jordi.

[Q]

Is that like. That has to be probably one of the biggest challenges.

[Walt Flanagan]

Oh, my God.

[Q]

Somebody came in with that. You can't have a visceral reaction. You have to pretend like you've seen it. Like, yesterday. Oh, yeah. I have a couple patients with hairy tongue disease. No big deal. You have to lie to them, Right.

[Dr. D]

So you kind of have to be a little bit of an actor at times because you can't react if you see something seriously messed up. Like, oh, okay, like, sure.

[Walt Flanagan]

Look at this. Disgusting.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, it says. It says, though. Yeah, he's not staying.

[Walt Flanagan]

Help.

[Bryan Johnson]

It's not staying hydrated.

[Dr. D]

It happens a lot to people who are in nursing homes that don't get proper hygiene.

[Q]

Okay.

[Dr. D]

It's like, not that specifically.

[Bryan Johnson]

As if you're not old and gross enough.

[Dr. D]

I know life is not fair, but if you're not getting proper, like, care of your mouth, sometimes you can see stuff like that.

[Bryan Johnson]

I don't want to ever be. I don't want to ever hear, like, hey, can we take a picture of

[Gideon]

your tongue for a medical journal case study on here.

[Q]

I would think, though, out of all of us at table, it wouldn't be a big deal if you had Harry Tom, because, like, you stick your tongue out, it just blends in with the beard. Nobody would even look at it and be like, it's kind of like, oh, yeah.

[Dr. D]

I mean, they would just thought their eyes were playing tricks on, like, nah, that's just his beard. Yeah, I've never. I mean, I've seen similar things to that.

[Q]

Right. It's a very simple procedure. You just. I think you just got to scrape your tongue.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. And brush your teeth more and eat foods that are not soft. Like people that are just on, like, baby food type diets. Get it?

[Q]

Are there people on baby food type diets? Like, older people?

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Q]

Oh, okay. Yes.

[Walt Flanagan]

So it would all be avoided if they just brush their teeth and eat

[Dr. D]

foods that are not. Like, they have a little bit more of a texture to it.

[Q]

But she's saying that elderly people, I

[Dr. D]

guess it's harder for them when they don't have teeth.

[Q]

They might not even have teeth.

[Dr. D]

Yeah.

[Bryan Johnson]

Oh, so, like, there's nothing to, like, get this off the tongue.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. So you don't. Yeah, you. Sometimes you need that texture to get things going.

[Bryan Johnson]

Like a good pretzel or something.

[Dr. D]

Yeah. Some cereal.

[Walt Flanagan]

Salt on it.

[Bryan Johnson]

There you go.

[Walt Flanagan]

Why is my cholesterol.

[Dr. D]

There's no Annie Ants in the nursing home.

[Q]

Well, that is all I have. That's all I. I kind of like, you know, went through all my questions I had. These are the kind of questions I would go if I was seeing the doctor today. I would be. It's not about me, Doc. I want to hear if you ever treated hairy tongue.

[Dr. D]

Well, if you have. If you ever. I can be your chaperone. If you want me to do your doctor's. I will sit there with you and protect you and make sure they don't abuse you if you want me to.

[Q]

It's not, you know, it all boils down to just my own issues. It's not that really, the doctors. It's more about that. Just that fear and anxiety. I can't get over it.

[Dr. D]

You will one day.

[Gideon]

Now, ethically, do you have to announce that you're a doctor? Are you, like, one of those people who, like, follows somebody and they speak a language that they don't think the other person speaks? Like, would you admit to the doctor that you know everything?

[Dr. D]

I don't sometimes tell certain doctors that I see that I'm a doctor. Okay. Because they say, well, what do you want to do? And I'm like, no, what do you want to do? You're the person I'm here to see.

[Q]

It's like, then, yet, what's that oath you guys take?

[Dr. D]

Hippocratic.

[Q]

And that's like the. That's like the Green Lantern oath, right? Blackest day and darkest night. You guys can't.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, except it's real.

[Gideon]

They don't have to say it Every morning

[Dr. D]

when I put on my cape in the morning, I recite it.

[Gideon]

I shall do no harm.

[Q]

You. You guys treat that with, like. It's the most utmost respect. I believe you have to. Right?

[Dr. D]

Yeah. At graduation, before you get your diploma, we all have to get, like. We all have to say it out loud together and make that promise.

[Q]

And let's see. You see a. What's it called when a colleague. Let's say you saw a colleague break it. Do you have to report them?

[Dr. D]

I've done it.

[Walt Flanagan]

Whoa.

[Bryan Johnson]

Dr. D. The rat.

[Walt Flanagan]

Whoa. Squeak out the cheese.

[Bryan Johnson]

You have to stick yourself up.

[Dr. D]

If you do the right thing, you will not be. You will not be penalized.

[Walt Flanagan]

Now, did you do that anonymously, or did you in that face be like,

[Dr. D]

I had a guy who royally screwed me over with a case that he.

[Walt Flanagan]

So was vengeance. I get that. I'm with you.

[Dr. D]

It was something that was very wrong. Thankfully, I was able to fuck the

[Walt Flanagan]

corpse

[Bryan Johnson]

and then posted it online. Check me out.

[Dr. D]

Live stream. No, I just. He did something that was inappropriate. He broke the oath in a way I don't think he. I think it was out of.

[Walt Flanagan]

In a way that I would report

[Dr. D]

in a way that I think was negligent. So. And when it came to. On my. In my world to fix, I confronted him. I said, you did this and it was wrong. And I said, I'm gonna have to talk to someone about this because it's. It's not something that can happen again. And he was like, oh, it was a misunderstanding. And I said, there's no misunderstandings when it's right in front of you. But I.

[Walt Flanagan]

Was it more delicious because he made your life hard.

[Dr. D]

Well, he called me. He tried. Kept calling me, telling me to take it back. And I said, take it back like a little kids.

[Q]

Like, take it back.

[Gideon]

You can't unset the bells.

[Dr. D]

Like, take back what? Take back the fact that you said, I did this. And I said, no, absolutely not.

[Q]

Did he pay a price?

[Dr. D]

Like, I think that he may have not. He may not be there anymore, really. And it wasn't anything. It was. It was only a medical thing. It was straight medical. I don't want anyone to think it was like a sexual harassment. That's a whole nother podcast about that kind of stuff in the hospital. But I think that if you see someone that did something.

[Q]

Well, I mean, the days of doctors, like. Like being gigolos, Is that like what we saw in the 70s and 80s on TV? Like, you know, Doc, like General Hospital or everyone's just everybody's having an affair. That's not the case anymore. Right. In hospitals?

[Dr. D]

I mean, I wouldn't agree with that.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah. That's not my understanding.

[Bryan Johnson]

I know nurses.

[Walt Flanagan]

Yeah.

[Gideon]

It's still.

[Q]

It's still a.

[Walt Flanagan]

So a lot of infidelity going on.

[Dr. D]

Oh, my God. And I. I don't really want to say this. My husband, to get mad, but, like, everybody hits on everybody all the time. The janitors. The janitors.

[Bryan Johnson]

Even the janitors.

[Dr. D]

Everybody hits on everybody.

[Q]

They're in play, too. And not that they shouldn't be. Like, if you're. You're a sexy janitor. Yeah, but. But like, I would imagine nurses, like,

[Dr. D]

one time with these people all day, and they're just seeing what sticks. One of the times they're gonna hit on someone and someone's gonna say, yeah, sure.

[Bryan Johnson]

Well, it's also like, you're in. You're working together long hours.

[Gideon]

Stress.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah, stress. You gotta relieve that stress. Right. Get him.

[Q]

Yeah.

[Dr. D]

Somehow happened.

[Q]

I thought that was. Yeah.

[Gideon]

Lucho Gold.

[Q]

I thought that was amped up for television.

[Dr. D]

No, it still happens for, like, the Dr.

[Q]

The nighttime dramas, the St. Elsewheres.

[Dr. D]

No, it's true.

[Q]

Everybody's.

[Dr. D]

Everything's romantic and, I mean, most of the day you're working, but I think there are. It definitely happens a lot more than you would think.

[Bryan Johnson]

Yeah. I'm trying to become a doctor, man.

[Q]

I don't think so, but I think

[Bryan Johnson]

it's always shutting me down. Always shutting me down.

[Gideon]

How much dissipation? Yes. Stay. Good be.

[Bryan Johnson]

What about a janitor?

[Q]

Tell him, Steve.

[Walt Flanagan]

Dave.