
Hosted by Tracy Schorn, Sarah Gorrell · EN

In this episode Tracy talks with two OBGYNs -- Dr. Leyla Moossavi and Dr. Diane Traenkle -- about what it's like to be on the front lines of women's health when dealing with infidelity. Having to break the news to someone that she's tested positive for a sexually transmitted disease is not a topic covered in medical school. They shoot straight about the health risks of being cheated on. Everything from the loss of her fertility to even maternal and fetal death if a woman is unknowingly exposed to infection while pregnant. Drs. Moossavi and Traenkle, who practice in rural Michigan, also discuss the overlap they've seen between cheating and domestic violence -- the men who insist on being in the doctor's office, who gaslight and threaten their partners after a positive STI test, and who even insist that their partners stop receiving healthcare. On a more compassionate note, Dr. Moossavi and Dr. Traenkle also discuss what good care looks like after you've been cheated on -- zero shame and lots of self love.

Oona Metz is the author of Unhitched: The Essential Divorce Guide for Women. She is a therapist with 30 years of clinical experience. For the past 15 years Oona has specialized in treating women navigating divorce. She and Tracy discuss why divorce shame remains a stubborn relic, the grief of losing a marriage (even a bad one), and the power of peer support to get you. If you chose a divorce, or had one thrust upon you, Unhitched is a field guide to a better life on the other side. Learn more about Oona at her Youtube Channel.

Sarah decided to shelf dating for the last 13 years and focus instead on raising four kids. But now that they're nearly grown, she's considering to try dating. Maybe. Her friends are sharing horror stories. Tracy shares a couple horror stories and some pointers (as a two-timer loser who is been happily remarried for 15 years, yet sucks at dating.) And we open the field to your stories and advice.

Last week we heard from chumps who outed their cheaters -- to their families, their other Other Schmoopies, and even their employers. This is part 2 of "Did you out your cheater?" Hell hath no fury...

Chumps are often told to keep their partner's infidelity to themselves. In this episode we hear from listeners who shouted it from the rooftops. Maybe dropped a dime to their employers. Or perhaps held a roadside sign. We say "If it feels good, don't do it." But does that include disclosure? This is a two-part series.

Tracy interviews Eileen Fox, who was married for over 30 years in what she thought was a monogamous marriage when she discovered her husband's double life. For years he'd been having risky sex with men and prostitutes. As a result of his cheating, Eileen contracted a virulent form of the human papillomavirus, HPV16 and got vulvual, cervical, and anal cancers. Now this mighty woman is raising awareness about all women getting the HPV vaccine, regardless of age. (Insurance does not cover it past age 45.) If you were ever on the fence if infidelity is abuse, Eileen's story will convince you. "It would have been easier for my body if he had shot me. It would have been easier on my body if he had stabbed me. This is a life-altering, lifelong affliction that he imposed on me through his selfish decisions. To be deceptive. He was a coward."

Part two from last week's episode. Did comparing yourself to real or as-yet-unknown affair partners do your head in? Did your cheater thrill to everyone's pick me dance? Listen as chumps tell us how and why they stepped out of the game.

Caught up in the pick me dance, it's hard not to compare and contrast yourself to the affair partner, who until D-Day was a phantom competitor. In this episode we hear from listeners what details they discovered about the mystery Schmoopies, but most of all how they wised up and stopped competing. Anyone who loves you would never goad you into a humiliating contest.

When you get chumped, why don't people bring casseroles? In this episode Tracy and Sarah discuss the complicated "ambiguous" grief of infidelity. Therapists call ambiguous grief "complex, often unresolved emotional pain felt when a loved one is physically absent but psychologically present, or physically present but psychologically absent. Being cheated on is its own kind of loss without closure and is uniquely isolating.

In this episode, Tracy responds to your miscellaneous voicemails. A caller wishes to "put the final nail in the coffin" on the argument that infidelity is abuse, because of STI risk and consent. Another listener shares news about a sex addict conference in Denver. And a woman has a hard time leaving her marriage after her fifth D-Day and over thirty years of marriage.