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Episode #658: What's Really in the COVID Shots with Jessica Rose

Host: Marty Bent | Guest: Dr. Jessica Rose
Release Date: September 8, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Marty Bent sits down with Dr. Jessica Rose, an immunologist and data analyst, to dissect the ongoing debates around the COVID-19 vaccines, with a specific focus on adverse events, regulatory failures, data transparency, and the emerging evidence about DNA contamination in mRNA COVID-19 shots. The conversation draws from Jessica's in-depth experience analyzing vaccine adverse event data, the recent political shifts around vaccine policy, and her soon-to-be-published research on contaminants found in vaccine vials. The discussion is candid, occasionally combative, and laced with a sense of urgency around the need for accountability and informed consent.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Shifting Narrative Around Vaccine Safety

• Hope and Movement Toward Accountability ([02:08])
  • Jessica describes a new, almost "unbelievable" sense of hope among scientists and skeptics, as increasing mainstream political attention (e.g., RFK Jr. as Secretary of HHS, Trump demanding data from Pfizer) suggests a shift towards real investigation into vaccine safety and adverse events.
  • “It’s beyond hopeful. It’s actual movement forward, I think.” — Jessica Rose ([05:31])
• Political Reactions and Defensive Behavior ([02:08–06:00])
  • RFK Jr.’s hearings reveal extreme defensiveness, ad hominem attacks, and lack of professionalism from officials, indicating internal tensions and possible fear of exposure.
  • Jessica highlights the lack of substantive scientific rebuttal and how defensiveness only raises more questions.

2. Deep Dive: Adverse Events & VAERS Data

• Magnitude of Reports in VAERS ([08:17–17:55])
  • VAERS data shows an unprecedented spike in reported adverse events since the COVID-19 vaccine rollout.
  • Over 1.6 million reports relating to COVID shots, compared to 39,000 for all vaccines over the prior 30 years.
  • Serious events—including death, neurological damage, myocarditis, fertility issues, and cancer—are reported at rates and with diversity not previously observed.
  • "If you actually succeed at filing a VAERS report... that’s not an easy task." — Jessica Rose ([09:42])
• International Parallels and Consistent Signals ([17:55])
  • Pharmacovigilance systems across Europe, Australia, the UK, and Canada show the same safety signals as VAERS, impacting all age groups.

3. Regulatory Failures & Censorship

• Breakdown of the Approval Process ([22:56])

  • Traditional timelines and trial phases were compressed or ignored for COVID shots, with animal and phase trials overlapped or skipped.
  • VAERS, intended as a critical post-market safety tool, was dismissed once negative signals appeared, despite previously being standard.
  • “All of these rules, by the way, were broken.” — Jessica Rose ([23:30])

• Suppression of Dissent and Censorship ([33:03], [39:34])

  • Jessica’s research (notably with Peter McCullough on myocarditis) was retracted or suppressed without explanation, costing crucial public awareness.
  • Marty recounts the show’s YouTube censorship for episodes discussing safe COVID treatments, even with experienced doctors.

4. DNA Contamination & Manufacturing Issues

• Discovery of DNA and SV40 Sequences in Vaccine Vials ([63:50–76:27])

  • Jessica and colleagues found substantial DNA in mRNA vaccine vials, including SV40 enhancer sequences, typically used as gene therapy tools.
  • Manufacturing Shift: Earlier clinical trial vaccines used cleaner production; commercial batches used E. coli plasmids and insufficient clean-up, resulting in DNA "contaminants".
  • The DNA levels often exceeded regulatory (EMA) limits, and delivery via lipid nanoparticles could enable DNA entry into the nucleus, posing cancer risks, especially if SV40 is present.

• Implications for Cancer and Germline Transmission ([76:27–81:34])

  • Reports of rapid and rare cancers increasing post-vaccine raise alarms; possible mechanisms include insertional mutagenesis and breakdown of cancer-suppression pathways.
  • Theoretical risk of germline (heritable) DNA alteration is acknowledged, though unproven—demands urgent research.

  “The only conclusion that you can draw... is that they didn't do this. The enzyme didn't work. And they knew.” — Jessica Rose ([71:16])

5. Societal and Systemic Breakdown

• Loss of Trust & Disconnection from Logic ([48:38], [53:05])

  • The hosts lament public trust erosion and the increasing societal split, blaming vested interests and regulatory loopholes (e.g., childhood schedule conferring liability protection).
  • Defensive labeling of critics as “crazy” or “conspiracy theorists” is a tactic to delegitimize genuine inquiry.

• Spiritual and Cultural Corruption ([40:25–42:03], [85:33])

  • The emergence of bizarre behaviors (pentagrams, overt references to Luciferianism among officials) is interpreted as a sign of deeper moral or spiritual decline.

6. Future Risks: Technology, AI, and What’s Next

• AI as Double-Edged Sword ([88:19–94:05])
  • Jessica speculates about the potential for AI both to liberate and to further control humanity, with risks of dehumanization as systems become increasingly automated and powerful.
  • "AI will end up being the thing that saves us from AI." — Jessica Rose ([92:56])

7. Moving Forward: Calls to Action

• Need for Accountability and Transparency ([07:52], [77:45])
  • Both host and guest insist that COVID—far from being "over"—is a prelude to more gene-based interventions and central control, demanding vigilance and public engagement.
  • Jessica urges support for RFK Jr.'s efforts and highlights the importance of open science and peer-to-peer review.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• On Real Change and Accountability

  “It’s not over. It was a segue to what's coming next, which is all of this gene based therapy crap. It's all, it's the only thing you're going to hear about in the future. So you mark my words, this ain't over, man.” — Jessica Rose ([99:35])

• On the Regulatory System:

  “VAERS... It's a government database. It's actually really valuable... The data therein is so plentiful.” — Jessica Rose ([25:03])

• On Censorship:

  “The thing that really bothers me... is the number of kids that subsequently got injected by unknowing parents because this information wasn't readily available. So this is criminal.” — Jessica Rose ([34:33])

• On Spiritual and Societal Breakdown:

  “We literally have the guy at the CDC wearing pentagram leather straps and participating in Satanic rituals... and then gaslight them into believing that it's not true. It's just... a song and dance.” — Marty Bent ([85:33])

• On Potential Heritable Effects:

  “If this stuff got into germline cells, then we do have a problem in a certain cluster of people anyway... labs all over the world need to reproduce results in order for something to be like, yeah, this sucks.” — Jessica Rose ([81:28])

• On Hope and Moving Forward:

  “There's absolutely true movement forward and progress of, like, self when you make yourself uncomfortable by moving into fear... Like, is it possible that the shots, that kind of thing.” — Jessica Rose ([96:44])

Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|---------------------------------------------------| | 02:08 | Growing hope, political developments (RFK Jr., Trump, CDC) | | 08:17 | Scope and significance of VAERS adverse event reports | | 17:55 | International data parallels, systemic adverse events | | 22:56 | Regulatory shortcutting, what standard vaccine testing requires | | 33:03 | Censorship of scientific dissent, retraction of myocarditis paper | | 53:05 | Why vaccine safety testing timelines matter, skepticism at Operation Warp Speed | | 63:50 | Detailed breakdown of DNA contamination, SV40 enhancer issue | | 76:27 | Societal discomfort addressing cancer and vaccine links | | 81:28 | Generational ramifications, need for global research | | 88:19 | Potential risks and hopes surrounding AI | | 99:00 | Call to continued vigilance and support for further research |

Closing Thoughts

The episode is a forcefully critical examination of the COVID vaccine story—one that bridges scientific data analysis, regulatory politics, public health ethics, and deep skepticism toward both public agencies and corporations. Jessica Rose pushes for a radical transparency and a reckoning with the potential unintended (or unacknowledged) consequences of rushed gene-based products, while Marty Bent frames the controversy within a broader distrust of government and pharma power structures. It’s a conversation urging not just accountability, but an awakening for people to engage with uncomfortable truths, demand more complete data, and resist a return to business as usual under the guise of public health.

For further reading, look for Dr. Rose's new publication on DNA contaminants in mRNA vaccine vials (release anticipated September 2025), and consider following her work and upcoming collaborative episodes for deeper technical dives with her research team.