102 - Cream - Fresh Cream - Wayne Federman

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers

Episode: 102 – Cream – Fresh Cream (with Wayne Federman)
Date: June 24, 2026
Album: Cream – Fresh Cream (#102 on Rolling Stone’s 500 Greatest Albums)
Guest: Wayne Federman (Comedian, Author, Music Historian)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, host Josh Adam Meyers invites comic and music aficionado Wayne Federman (on his birthday, no less) to dig deep into Cream’s debut album, Fresh Cream—#102 on Rolling Stone’s 500 Greatest Albums list. The two riff on the origins and influence of the British power trio, weighing the album’s legacy, musical prowess, and its surprising rough edges. With a mix of humor, personal stories, and deep music nerdery, Josh and Wayne break down why Fresh Cream is a pivotal but imperfect entry in the classic rock canon.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cream’s Formation and “Supergroup” Status (09:20–13:01)

• Wayne on the Band Name: Cream's name was, in his words, “very arrogant,” referring to their status as top-tier musicians in the 1960s London blues scene.
  Quote: “They were the cream of the virtuoso musicians... the three best guys.” (09:20)
• The band’s explosive dynamics were established from the start—notoriously, drummer Ginger Baker and bassist Jack Bruce had already been in physical altercations before Cream existed.

2. The Band Members and Their Egos (11:36–12:53)

• Ginger Baker’s Hostility: Wayne recounts how Baker nearly wrecked his car when Clapton suggested Bruce for the band. “He almost drove the car off the road. ‘I stabbed that guy!’” (12:26)
• The trio’s forceful personalities are described as enough “ego to power London” (09:44).

3. British Blues Explosion: The Power Trio Model (16:23–19:55)

• The Buddy Guy Catalyst: Wayne spotlights a 1965 Buddy Guy show at London’s Marquee Club (attended by Clapton, Jeff Beck, and Jimmy Page), as the moment British blues transformed into “power trio” rock—a key ingredient for Cream’s creation.
• Discussion of Earlier Trios: Cream’s format set the template for later bands like Rush, ZZ Top, and The Police.

4. Recording ‘Fresh Cream’ (22:21–23:43)

• The album was recorded quickly, on four-track equipment with minimal overdubs, and produced by Robert Stigwood.
  Quote: “Clapton said they barely took it seriously.” (22:25)
• Wayne admits it’s his least favorite Cream record: “It’s more blues, no psychedelic, no hard rock in it lyrically.” (22:33)

5. Cream’s Early U.S. Reception and Impact (23:36–33:08)

• Their first U.S. gig was at a chaotic Murray the K show with Smokey Robinson, The Who, Simon & Garfunkel, and others. Cream and The Who got to play just one song per set—frustrating for bands known for long improvisation.
• The show structure (multiple acts, a movie interlude) is discussed as a precursor to modern music festivals like Coachella.

6. Transition from Blues to Arena Rock (34:17–39:04)

• The hosts explain that Fresh Cream wasn’t the band’s creative peak, but it’s considered a “Big Bang” for future hard rock and arena rock: Quote (Wayne): “All of it kind of converges… and then this new kind of band… creates what will become arena rock with virtuoso guitar.” (39:10)
• The album is credited for taking the electric blues and pushing it into harder, louder territory.

7. Cream's Dynamic and Their Legacy (49:22–57:21)

• High Musical Tension: Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker’s fights, including an onstage stabbing during the Graham Bond days; Wayne recounts a documentary moment where Baker beats the filmmaker with a pool cue (49:25–49:41).
• Debate: MVP of Cream: Discussion whether Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce, or Ginger Baker was most essential.
  Wayne: “It’s all three… But it’s Clapton. He created the guitar gods.” (52:12) Josh: “There’s a debate through a lot of music nerds that Jack Bruce is the secret MVP…” (56:40)
• Clapton’s Burden of ‘God’ Status:
  Quote: “The pressure for being the Shredder guy… after Cream and Blind Faith, he goes into folk rock… it got too much.” – Wayne (55:43)

8. British Appropriation of Blues (62:00–66:06)

• The two wrestle with the dynamic of white British musicians reinterpreting Black American blues, both as tribute and sometimes as appropriation.
• They suggest that British musicians’ “love of authenticity” and “swag” drew them irresistibly to the blues.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Cream's Ego:
  “They were the cream of the virtuoso musicians in the London blues scenes. Those were the three best guys.” — Wayne (09:25)
• Founding Tension:
  “Ginger Baker almost drove the car off the road. ‘I stabbed that guy!’” — Wayne (12:26)
• On Musical Influence:
  “Plugging into a Marshall amplifier takes you somehow, some way… to any hair metal band… It all just starts here.” — Josh (80:58)
• On Album Quality:
  “It’s my least favorite of the four Cream albums. I don’t count the live one… it’s more blues. Psychedelic, hard rock—none of that is in it lyrically.” — Wayne (22:33)
• On Band’s Impact:
  “This is like a Big Bang moment, even though it doesn’t sound like it to me.” — Wayne (39:10)
• Clapton’s Burden:
  “The pressure for being the shredder guy… after Cream and Blind Faith, he goes into Bonnie Delaney and Friends… it got too much.” — Wayne (55:43)
• On British Blues:
  “The whitest people on the planet Earth, the English, are the ones that reinterpret the black blues. It’s just… wild.” — Wayne (62:25)

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Track-by-Track Reactions (74:24–78:52)

• Favorites:
  • Wayne: Likes “NSU,” “Spoonful,” and “I’m So Glad.”
  • Josh: Unexpectedly found himself returning to “Sleepy Time Time” because it reminded him of musical moments with his father.
• Least Favorite:
  • Wayne calls out “Screaming” as his least favorite: “I can’t believe Clapton’s on it. It’s just… not good production, not good lyrics.” (76:05)
• On Drumming:
  • Neither are fans of the long drum solo on “Toad.” Wayne: “One of my least favorite innovations in rock music is the drum solo.” (50:40)

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Who Was Cream’s Most Essential Member? (77:00–79:33)

• Both agree Clapton (the “God” of the group) is most important, with Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce in a close tie behind.
• If forced to swap a member, Wayne would put Neil Peart (Rush) on drums for compatibility—and says singing bassist Sting could theoretically pull off Jack Bruce’s role, albeit with a different flavor.

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Cultural Sidebars and Banter

• The episode regularly detours into comic territory: awkward festival stories, old porn, personal concert stories, and Wayne’s birthday celebrations.
• Wayne discusses his upcoming and recent projects, including a new Larry David series, documentary work, and his book The History of Stand-Up: From Mark Twain to Dave Chappelle (72:50).

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Closing Thoughts

• Fresh Cream is characterized as a foundational but transitional record: one that marked a major shift in rock history (from blues to arena psych-rock), albeit with some uneven material.
• Cream’s legacy is enormous despite the band’s brevity—setting the standard for future power trios, hard rock, and “guitar god” hero worship.
• The hosts marvel at how the band’s musical tensions, ego clashes, and genre innovations came together, accidentally shaping the sound of decades to come.

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Rapid-Fire Post-Show Q&A (74:20+)

• Favorite Tracks: “NSU”, “I’m So Glad,” “Sleepy Time Time”
• Least Favorite: “Screaming”
• Could they listen to it during sex?: Maybe to the bluesier tracks, not to “Toad.”
• Member Ranking: Clapton (most important), then Baker/Bruce (tied).
• Who could replace whom?: Neil Peart (for drums); Sting (for bass/vocals); Hendrix (for guitar).

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Recommended For

• Fans of classic rock, British blues, and musical history
• Listeners interested in group dynamic, band origins, and the transition from blues to hard rock
• Comedy podcast fans who enjoy deep musical dives mixed with personable humor

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Further Reading/Listening:

• The History of Stand-Up: From Mark Twain to Dave Chappelle by Wayne Federman
• Cream’s Disraeli Gears (their more psychedelic and acclaimed follow-up)
• “Beware of Mr. Baker” (Ginger Baker documentary)

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Next Episode: #101 – Frank Sinatra, In the Wee Small Hours (from 1955)
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Podcast Website: the500podcast.com

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Transcript

[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Wayne Fetterman]

my man JL

[Josh Adam Myers]

on the 500 Talking the 500 until the end Life is a joy we'll have a spirit time we'll have a sleepy time. That is sleepy time time is by cream from the 66 record fresh cream. It's number 102 out of 500 on the 500 with me. I'm Josh. My last name is Myers, my middle name is Adam. And this is the 500 where I'm going through Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 Greatest Albums. It's a late episode because I forgot to do the intro when I was with what's His Face. And then the guy was bugging me to send it in and I forgot. So here we are. And you're getting it now. We have a YouTube Subscribe. Patreon Subscribe. I don't know if anybody even listens to that. Let's just get to it, man. We are doing, I think our third or fourth Cream record. And it is not what I was expecting. It's the truth, I'm not gonna lie. And of course I brought back the homie, the Wayne Fetterman. And it's his birthday today. We did it live. He had no idea that I didn't know. By the way, new book out. The history of Stand up from Mark Twain to Dave Chappelle. I got a signed copy. He said I love you Gree Gree in it. Go to waynefetterman.com for everything. Check out Maria Bamford's doc and Mel Brooks he's always working on. And of course, I'll let him describe it at the end time to party rate reviews. Subscribe to the 500. Follow me and Josh Adam Myers on all social media. Email the [e-mail] follow the Facebook group and for all things 500, go to the website the500podcast.com. All right, guys, here we go with Cream Wet 102 with fresh creamsies. I just saw a thing.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I think the Viper Room. Is that still around?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Still there, but those are hanging on, man.

[Wayne Fetterman]

They are.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I just saw a thing. Ricky Rackman, you know the guy, host a Headbangers ball. He's talking about the Sunset Strip is dead.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Really? Every time I drive by, I see.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But it's not. It's never going to be.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Well, how could it?

[Josh Adam Myers]

And then somebody tried to say that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And remember we talked about that place on the corner of. Oh, my God, what's it called? The corner of Crescent Heights and Sunset. That started. There's something happening here. Oh, yeah? What was it called? Oh, my God. No, no. Right next to. Next to Gardens of Allah was the little club.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What was a club?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Ricky Rackman said that the Sunset Strip died when Guns N Roses put out November Rains. He says that was the beginning of it.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I mean, it was. Look, it had an incredible run.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Very incredible.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Incredible. I mean, it's ridiculous.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But that was. That was the shift.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Remember we talked about the Birds? They did that whole residency.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You've done. You've done all the bands you're getting all the shit that you like now.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, this band I do like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You almost had Coltrane, everybody. He was like. You were a pubic hair away from doing.

[Wayne Fetterman]

What did I say when you sent me?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Please, no, Please, no, Please now.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Because I don't like that music. I don't like a Love Supreme. But then when I did a little research into. Made me laugh like. His journey is wild.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I know.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Wild.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It was a great episode with James Mattern. And he did. Went through. Oh, dude. It's the. It's one of the most complicated, you know.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Did you talk about the. Him like being a Philly session guy and like being brought up to build?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yes. You know, I think we did.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's all 1955. It's all 1955. I'm trying to think of the name of the other saxophone player who before him.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Charlie Parker.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Charlie Parker dies in 55. And by the way, 55. We should do an episode just on 1955. And what happened in rock. Charlie Parker dies. Maybelline is recorded by Chuck Berry.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Maybe it's Maybelline. He did that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Tutti Fruiter is recorded by a guy named Little Richard. Bo Diddley did Bo Diddley. The movie Blackboard Jungle opens up with. Opens with Rock around the Clock. So the first rock song, really, in a movie. First time. 45s sell more than 78s. It's like the start of the youth culture. There's more. Bob Dylan buys his first guitar in 1955. Obviously, what happens with Parker? And there's something. There's something. And obviously Coltrane gets hired to play with Miles Davis.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yep.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's a really incredible. If you're, you know, just like. And through it all. Oh, and Buddy Holly stops playing country music, starts playing rock and roll.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The crickets.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, I know about the crickets. Come on, dude. We've done that before.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I love it. Come on his birthday, ladies. It's a really. It's a really fun.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, unfortunately, we're doing an episode 1956. We.

[Wayne Fetterman]

We planned on that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We said. We said. We said we're big in a year. It's 56. And nothing happened in 56. Nothing.

[Wayne Fetterman]

That was the Elvis year, man. That's the. So. So anyway, so I learned a lot about Coltrane.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And how much time are you putting in when I say. Because I give you no time at all.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I like it. I like learning. It's like. It's not. It's not like, oh, I have to excuse my language.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, please cut that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Cut that out.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Keep that in and really amplify it like his voice did earlier. Like. Like, put echo on it. Like.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, I. I don't. I really like learning about that. And, yeah, I. So that Coltrane situation, you know, I used to do a joke about jazz musicians and heroin, and he's like a perfect. All of these. Those guys.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, he is.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You know, by the way, my whole take was. If you thought bebop music was inscrutable and annoying, guess what? Modal jazz is coming down.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I love. I think modal's the one we were talking about. That on the episode is like, we can even flip it back to the band we're talking about. Like, if I was gonna give somebody the first Miles Davis record, I wouldn't give them. Where is the cool. No, I'll give them Kind of Blue. Yeah. Because it's the most easily digestible. And just like, for today, everybody, I'm just swinging in. I wouldn't give somebody this album. I would never give somebody. We're talking about, you know, the band. And that's what we're talking about today. Ladies and gentlemen, we're diving into Cream Fresh.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Cream Fresh. By the way, Cream has a very arrogant name for their band.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Why?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Because they were the cream of the virtuosis. Virtuoso musicians in the London blues scenes. Those were the three best guys.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's the.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It was, in a way, a super group, but nobody really knew them outside of, like, guitar guys. And we had already done the Beano album, so we have.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But, you know, this is. What's so funny is, like. Is like, you know, when all of these albums, arguably, that are on this list in, in a way, changed music, I don't think, you know, because, you know, we already know, like, these are three guys with enough ego to power London. You know what I mean? They are.

[Wayne Fetterman]

They're the cream.

[Josh Adam Myers]

They are.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You know, they're not the soy milk.

[Josh Adam Myers]

They're not soy milk.

[Wayne Fetterman]

What else would be in caught. I don't drink coffee.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, I. I think they're more of. Because they're. They're three. They have to be three ingredients that are all as equally strong.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know what I mean? What is it like a liquor drink? English.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know what you mean. I've been speaking English for years. This is my primary language. Did you know that? I grew up in Silver Spring, Maryland.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know what we should do? You and I should just do this episode where we just talk over each other. Just like the solos on this album just. We just. We just Solo. We just like. No, this is. This is. I don't understand why this one's below some of the other ones, because.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know. I agree with that. So this made higher on the list.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, ladies and gentlemen, this is the

[Wayne Fetterman]

first thing maybe I ever agreed on. Yeah, I love it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We both like Chinese women.

[Wayne Fetterman]

That is true.

[Josh Adam Myers]

They both hate Chinese food.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Hate Chinese food. Love Chinese.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Love Chinese women.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Love Mandarin, but don't like that other language.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We loved King Kim Jong Mao, but we hated the other guy. No, this is. You know, if. If we're talking about the debut album from. From rock's. I guess we first real super group where it's funny is jazz had super groups all the time. Speaking of that. Coltrane. But Power Trio. Yeah, but this is. This is basically, you know, supergroup, I guess, you know, with this band. Mason Maisley. Maisley mostly becomes like a code for. I wrote three famous people who hate each other by track four.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Well, the two of them really hated

[Josh Adam Myers]

each other, of course. And if you don't know who we're talking about, let's do all three.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. But the two hated each other. With the drummer, it came out of the jazz tradition. Ginger. You can say his last name. Baker.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Buck Hair.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, it's not Buck Hair. Ginger Baker.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Ginger Baker.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And the bass player, Jack Bruce also had kind of a jet, but they famously fought on stage before they got into Cream.

[Josh Adam Myers]

This is like. They're like the police.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, tell me. I don't know what that means.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The band, the Police.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, I thought you mean the police, like the LA police.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, if you've been outside anywhere and seen all the crime, they're not around here in Los Angeles.

[Wayne Fetterman]

But they were.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We needed you, Spencer.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right?

[Josh Adam Myers]

God damn it. Give us another reality star. How about Trisha from Season Vegas of the Real World? No, I. I think. I think that's what's interesting about this band.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I mean, it's insane that they said yes to Eric Clapton's idea to bring in Jack Bruce because it was originally Gingerbreaker said, I want to do something with you, and. And he was like, yeah, let's do it with Jack Bruce. And Gingerbreaker almost drove the car off the road. Like, I stabbed that guy like that. We, like, We've gotten into real physical altercations when they were with Graham Bond and all of that stuff off.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Dude. Yeah, I. I love. Dude, you are. You are burying the lead. And it's like, you know, can we do that? Can we put the pin in that and go Pulp F Style and Then go.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Let's go back to the beginning. By the way, let's say Woody Allen and Annie hall did time jumps before Quentin Tarantino.

[Josh Adam Myers]

100. Yeah, 100. And he also found out his stepdaughter before most other people as well.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Okay. His girlfriend's daughter. Adopted daughter.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, Mia Farrow's hottie.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I mean, she's with Frank Sinatra, if I'm not mistaken. Trivia question. What do you got? I believe Mia Farrow is the first face on the COVID of People magazine.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I love that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

In the seventies.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Look it up.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Look it up. Sorry to put you to work.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, he has to work. He's. He has to sit here.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Keep. Remember People still around? People magazine.

[Josh Adam Myers]

People magazine. Sexiest man in the world.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, they do all of that kind of stuff.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We remember Nick Nolte. Got it. And then he really went to. After that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, you got too craggly.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know what's funny?

[Wayne Fetterman]

So what, 74.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Come on, guys.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Again? It's my birthday. I've been around a while. I remember these things.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I want to say this because I brought up Nick Nolte.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Why am I yelling?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, right here? No, no, no, you're good. Yell, dude, it's your birthday. Now. You're an old man. Now you have to practice telling people to get off. Oh, that's right.

[Wayne Fetterman]

What do I do?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're going too fast.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yell at a cloud. What do I do? What is the expression?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Old man yells at a cloud? Is that what it is? It's from the. You know what's a good expression that I love. And I don't think I use it enough. Shit or get off the pot. Oh, yeah, I love that. I don't use that enough.

[Wayne Fetterman]

So that's take a dump or stop smoking marijuana. Is that what that means?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You take a shit or you wanted to do at least with the cbd, you know?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But I. Angelo. Angelo had this joke that it was like that when women say I have an ugly penis. I've been told it looks like Nick Nolte coughing. And what I remember after he died, like a month after he died, I was driving up Highland and I was very emotional, listening to Elton John's I want love and I won't love. Not just the brain way. And I'm just like, Angelo, please, I miss you. Give me a sign that you're with me. And then it was Oscar day, and in a parking lot of a Jiffy Lube, was. Was Nick Nolte right there. It just made me laugh. Because I was like, oh, man. I thought of the joke and I was like, oh, that's.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Does that make you believe in.

[Josh Adam Myers]

If you want to view, simply watch the movie. Nuts.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Pandora's Box. That is the name of the club on the corner of. Right next to the Gardens of Allah. Do you know that little island where. San Vicente. Excuse me not saying. Crescent Heights and Sunset. That used to be bigger. And that's where this club called Pandora's Box. That's where the riots started. There's something happening here.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

We talked about this.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We have talked about.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I love. I love that song so much. And everyone thinks it's about the war or what happened in Ohio. No, like. Well, these kids.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You need to. Anytime somebody says that, you need to, like, pop out, like, Shazam.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And I couldn't remember Pandora's. That's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How much.

[Wayne Fetterman]

This is my new future.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How much have we talked about the. The Cream Boys getting together? Because I want to know a little bit.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Well, we did, because we had done the Beano album and then we had done Wheels of Fire. So we really had done this. But I want to go back to what you were just talking about. Elton John.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Take me there.

[Wayne Fetterman]

February 1965. Not four, not six. February 1965, at the Marquee Club in London. The guy who owns the club takes a chance and brings a blues guy over from the United States named Buddy Guy. You may recognize him from the movie centers.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I saw him.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, I saw him. You may know him for that. So he goes over there and plugs into. Not a Marshall amp, but one of those boxes. AC 30s, I think they're called, but all the way to 10. Strat guitar. Does the chitlin circuit, plays with the teeth four. Hendricks. All of this stuff. And in the room, Eric Clapton. Wait. Jeff Beck.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Wait, wait, you know they are.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, we know. It's like a Rock and Roll hall of Fame thing there. Yeah. And Jimmy Page, but even better. And of course, this is the first time you're like, oh, blues can be crazy loud like this. Which is. And obviously, the dexterity of Buddy Guy on the guitar is just mind blowing for these guys. And it was a trio. That's where they get the idea for Cream. He's not like. He's not in a trio in the Yardbirds. Eric Clapton. He's not in a trio in John Mayo and the Blues Breakers. They're like, oh, man. You can do it with three. If you're that loud with your electric guitar.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Were they the first band to do three? I mean, I feel like there had to have been other ones.

[Wayne Fetterman]

They were the first big ones. Yes. There was, in a way, Buddy Holly and the Crickets and even Elvis before he got the drummer.

[Josh Adam Myers]

There's another band. L. A French trio.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Exactly. But they were really. And that guy Johnny Burdett, who did Train, kept a roll and he was a trio. But they were the real one. They were the first power trio, they called it before Rush, before ZZ Top, before. I can't think of another one, but. But the thing is, what would be another great one? Oh, Emerson, Lake and P. Rush. Rush, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The Police, Everclear.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, are they three?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think. I think Chevelle. Okay, these are all bands on these. None of these bands suck. Dude. Chevelle does not suck.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Chevelle's not on that list.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Not on the greatest of all time.

[Wayne Fetterman]

But, you know, I'm sorry, Chevelle, if you're listening right now, I apologize.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Huge fans.

[Wayne Fetterman]

They named after the car.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yes, but they're like new metal, so it's not like it's nothing you would ever listen to. Like, you've never listened to Korn before, have you?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know, but the K with the K. Yes, I have listened to Corn, but I don't know Chevelle. I don't know Barracuda. I don't know Dart. These are all Cars. Oh, okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Edsel.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I don't know any of these bands.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, why did you want to leave?

[Wayne Fetterman]

So anyway, but the other thing I was going to say, besides those three guys who were like blown away, I really feel like that Buddy guy, I think it was. I know it was a Thursday night in February 1965 at the Marquee Club that those three guys saw that and were like, oh, this is where rock and roll can go. This is not. This is louder than, you know, top 40 day tripper or whatever, you know, Beatles songs and things like that. And. But the opening band, who. I don't remember what they're called, but in that. Who opened for Buddy Guy that night? Backup singer Rod Stewart, piano player Reg Dwight later became. Yes. A crazy night. I feel like an under reported night in the history of music.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Why is that, you think?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Because it's. It's. Yeah, just because I. Maybe no one else drew all of those parallels. Maybe this is what I'm born on earth to do, which I do in my new book.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, my God. Well, here. Promote the book.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, we'll do it later. But I'm just saying I. A lot of times I like. I feel like I'm good at drawing connections to things. So. So that night was wild. And eventually, you know, Eric Clapton plugs his Gibson guitar into a Marshall amplifier and that's. And gets something called the woman sound. Do you know about this?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't know anything about it.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, we talked about this. This is the sound he wanted.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Dude, I moved on to like 45. That's the problem is that like we get so much.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You're right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like names pop up and I'm like oh, John Landau.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, of course, you know. Yeah, I apologize. Of course.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Tell us again. Come on.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, no, he wanted to have this. He had this idea for this sound that he felt like guitars were too jangly, were too high end. And he wanted something with a lot more mid range. And he got this with the smaller, not a stack of Marshall amps. Pete Townsend invents those. The big cabinets, you know, the hundred watts. Yeah, this was just like a 45 watt or something. Marshall amp made in England. This is one of my favorite things of like England came up with those martial amps. United States comes up with those Gibson inventor guitars. Look at this. Even though we fought a war against each other, we're collaborating now in the music world.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Get John Bonamassa on the phone.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Dude, this is no perfect.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He would, he would call him up.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, he would call him up.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He's smoking a cigar on his porch playing one of the trillion dollar guitars.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Exactly. That's a perfect guy. He is. He's the historian of that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But, but, but, you know, but.

[Wayne Fetterman]

So I just love that combination again. We're about to celebrate In a week, America's 250th anniversary, right?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yep. Going to the Trump rally, going to

[Wayne Fetterman]

go wrestle or whatever.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What else are they doing there?

[Wayne Fetterman]

They're nascar. What is he doing on the way?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know what, you know, they're going to get. They're not getting Cream, they're not getting Ginger Baker or Jack Bruce or they're getting Chevelle. They're getting.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, I love it. Yeah. So both, by the way, Bruce and Gingerbrake are now dead. So Eric Clapton is the only one left from that band. And they get together and then they record this album, you know, in 19

[Josh Adam Myers]

releases, released in 66. Produced by Robert Stigwood.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Four track equipment with very few overdubs. He says they barely took it seriously. Clapton, he said that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's. I don't want. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate. It's my least favorite of the four Cream albums. I don't count the live one, but obviously. But the. It's my least favorite. And it's still good. It's more blues.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Psychedelic hard. Hard rock. There's no, like, none of that is in it lyrically.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's horrible, by the way. It is. It is immature. Like, it's stuff that, like, it seems like.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It seems very element. I mean, there's a couple moments where you hear Clapton doing it, but even more interesting then. So they record this album in England, right? And they get our old buddy Ahmad Erdogan of Atlantic Records to put it, you know, put it out on the ATCO label over here. Does pretty good. And they have. But they don't really explode because their first live gig. Do you know about this?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't know any. Dude, I love that you're talking to me like, this is your shit, dude. Their first live gig, Coltrane, I knew everything. But this, I'm like.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Their first live gig they do is for Murray the K. Do you know who Ben Schwartz is? The improv guy?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yes, I do.

[Wayne Fetterman]

He just got hired to play Murray the K in all four of those Beatle movies.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No way.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Good for him, man.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Great gift working with Sam Mendez.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, the whole thing. The whole thing, the whole thing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And those are gonna be good.

[Wayne Fetterman]

He's Sonic the Hedgehog. He's also. He's done four of those. He's. And just as a side note, just an incredibly good basketball player. Great human being and Holocaust denier. Totally flat Earther. Flat.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Can't prove him wrong.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I can't prove him wrong.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Makes good points.

[Wayne Fetterman]

He's very careful, but. And obviously top level improv performer.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm good for him. Do you think those movies are going to be good Beatles ones, say Mendez. I mean, you know, it's like, you know, American beauty. 1917 was great. I even like that one about the movie theater in England. The one with the. The chick from. The favorite. The British Olivia Colman. Oh, yeah, it was good. I watched it like a hotel room when I was like, on the road somewhere.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I don't. You know, I'm a beetle nut, so, I mean, I'm. Obviously, I'll go lot. It's a lot.

[Josh Adam Myers]

There's so many young. There's so many young people that would. That think that the Beatles are overrated.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I love that take.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Don't like it at all. Love it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, it's. Love that take because it's such a ridiculous thing.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's fun. Why not?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, you can't.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And there was actually. I Saw a clip of a guy, like, driving a car, listening to Maxwell Silver Hammer or. No, no, no, obladio bladder. And just the look of disdain on his face. And I was like, oh, I kind of get it. I kind of get that. This would seem ridiculous. He's just driving in his truck. It's coming through the speakers, and he's just like, this can't be what everyone's talking about.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is this funny? Because I said this on stage. You know how, like the Beatles, when he wrote. When he wrote Yesterday, he originally, the original lyrics were scrambled eggs. And I was like. When Michael McDonald was writing Taking it to the Streets, the original lyrics were making my girlfriend queef. That's the joke.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I got it. You'd like to go blue? You'd like to go blue.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right. Dude, I thought that was pretty. They're like, nah, I think that's. You know, nobody's ever done a Queef song before.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, I could see that. The.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, McDonald's did that. You up?

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I thought it was a real story. And then I was like, okay, this is a joke.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I told you it was a joke. Is this funny?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

God, I don't like the seat. I hate this seat.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I'm really sorry. I don't like it either.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, you gotta get some more cushion. And you're pushing, bruh.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's. Yeah. Did you ever see the movie the Nutty Professor?

[Josh Adam Myers]

The original or the Jerry Lewis one? I mean, vaguely. There's a great.

[Wayne Fetterman]

There's a great scene where he's in the office of the dean of the school or the president, and he's not only is in the lower seat, he sits in it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Hilarious.

[Wayne Fetterman]

He sinks into. It's really beautiful.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I like the. I like the. I like the. The Eddie Murphy one, though, though.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Clums. Oh, come on, dude. They said that I. I found out that Dave Chappelle was modeling the standup comic performance off the guy that hosted the comedy seller Arty Fuqua.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, really crazy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's because we were all together, dude. It was.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, I didn't know that we.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Were you in New York? Let me write.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Hold on. Let me put this in the book. Let me put this in.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Were you in New York for the Knicks, the championship stuff?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yes, I was that while you were there, just for game five. Just for game. You go, No, I don't know. But I was outside. And here's the most betterman kind of angle on it. As you know, I'm a huge Hupes fan. Hupes not hoops. Hoops is. Went to see a little play by Arthur Miller called Death of a Salesman. Yeah. I don't want to tell you how it ends, but it's kind of in the. It's a spoiler title.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I thought they did. I thought they did a reworking of. Was more of it. It was more of a death of his ego.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The end. He actually, metaphorically, he drives a car and he parks it, and then he just goes, you know what?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I should have taken that other job. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. What am I doing?

[Wayne Fetterman]

What am I doing? Why am I so proud?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Happy, get over here.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Why am I so proud? I won't take this, my friend. He's offering me. Charlie's offering me a job. Why am I taking that? That's funny. But I like plays that spoil the end of it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm reworking the play. Chicago. It's going to be called Des Moines.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, just like the little small. So I saw Death of a Salesman at the Winter Garden Theater.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

One of my favorite theaters of all the Broadway houses.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Nice.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And then walked outside. There's viewing parties all over Times Square at different restaurants, different things.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I was in Phoenix for game five. I wanted them to lose game five so they could win game six.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because I really wanted to win.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I wanted a game seven.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, no. God, no.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And so guess where I watched it. Of all the viewing parties that were, like, kind of going. Were you just standing in the street watching through the windows?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Red Lobster.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Very close. Applebee's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I knew it was gonna be like a chain restaurant. Like, you know me, the Eminem store.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You don't know me. Okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You love the Ultimate Feast, and you love the. You love a good mozzarella stick cheese pull.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yes, I do. Yes, they do. So that's where I saw. That's where I saw outside Applebee's on 50th and Broadway and then went into Times Square, let a. Lit a couple school buses on fire and got out of there.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You love rioting, too.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, it's the best. It's the best. And my favorite was as soon as the Knicks won, you know, there's cops on all the corners everywhere.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I bet.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I. This girl, I took a picture of her. She was this female cop, and she's, like, pulling her hair back. She's about to put on the. The helmet.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Helmet.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah, the riot helmet. It was just a great, like, little.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And I was in Phoenix where it was 117 degrees.

[Wayne Fetterman]

So cool. So it's cool

[Josh Adam Myers]

like the fire that was burning inside the band Cream.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. So. So anyway, so they. Their first live in the United States. Brought over here Stigwood books of Murray the K has something called. Oh, my God, what was this called? Oh, Music of the fifth Dimension. I think this is before even the fifth.

[Josh Adam Myers]

This is the dawning of the age before.

[Wayne Fetterman]

That's. That's all in 1916. Later. Later. 6. So it's an incredible show. It's the who's first time performing in the United States. Okay. And it's like, who.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Who's this man?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Exactly. And then Cream. So they only get to perform like one song. It's one of these stage shows and then they show a movie and then they do it again. So they do five shows a day over like the week or something like that, or 10 days. And it's just a nightmare for these guys who are like, you know, these are the king of improvisational rave ups. And next thing you know, it's like they're doing I Feel Free. Or you know what, one of their hits off this album.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh my God, you can call it that and hit me like a ton of bricks.

[Wayne Fetterman]

But it's at a great. It's. But the movie. That's. But anyway, one also on the bill is Smokey Robinson and we did an episode on him.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Why aren't they doing these? I mean, is this. Are these like the predecessors for Coachella and festivals?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, this is in a weird. Simon and Garfunkel. It's excellent. You brought that up. This is you drawing the connections because Simon and Garfunkel is also on that bill. So Simon and Garfunkel, the who, Cream, Wilson Pickett, Smokey Robinson. And they have to do, you know, one after another.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Where did they put the Garfunkels?

[Wayne Fetterman]

That's a good question. I know Cream went towards the end because.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, you have to put whoever allow. I mean, but they're like, who. I mean, who's gonna.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And this is one of those where the who would break the equipment and then tape it together.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Can I tell you, I bet you had the best high energy performance.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Wilson Pickett.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yep. Yeah, I bet you he did. Yeah, I bet you he did.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Dude, that's your. That's your jam. Otis. Wilson Pickett. That's your.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, I got an Otis Redding tattoo.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Sorry about that. Oh, no, on purpose. I thought you lost the batteries.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Hey, do you want to put a black man on your arm?

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, but can we bring it back to Otis for just one second? And what you were saying about Coachella Is. Yes. These rock and roll shows that had like eight acts on them and then showed a movie. This was at the RKO theater on the east side. And then showed a movie. Five shows a day.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's like, all right, guys. And that is going to conclude our rock fiesta. And now get ready for From Here to Eternity.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right?

[Josh Adam Myers]

It was with Burt Lancaster, that kind of thing.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Presentation house, big 3,000 seat theater. But Simon and Garfunkel was so disgusted with it. Like, can we present our music in a normal way? And so they. Dude. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Garfunkel rules. It's Paul Simon. Dude.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, but you're missing my point. This is my point. Is so like, can we give like this kids music, which is basically what it was, right?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Rock and roll.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah. For teenagers. Can we present it with a little more elevated. And so they create Simon and Garfield, who's one of the creators of the Monterey Music Festival. Interesting, buddy. Yeah. And then the. Who was at that? Not Cream, obviously. Hendrix. And all of these guys. Janis Joplin. Your buddy Otis killed it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Showed a movie. We saw 15amazing bands. Where's the movie?

[Wayne Fetterman]

But I feel like that those festivals are the birthplace of Coachella.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Am I.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Do you agree with that?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I, I. After hearing what you said, I completely agree with that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

But it's before Woodside.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But just imagine it was all for like 8 cents.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Did I remember the movies were $4 and 50 cents. And when I was born. You're how? How?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Old man Screaming at Clouds.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How much were the movies when you went in Silver Spring and they were

[Wayne Fetterman]

like a couple, two or three bucks or something like that? Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, my Lord. That is your history lesson in inflation.

[Wayne Fetterman]

So anyway, so they do this horrible Maria the K thing, then immediately go to Atlantic Record to record their follow up album, which is one of the greatest albums of all time. Disraeli, Gears.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Wait.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And that's where they meet two very important people.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay, but put a bit. Is this funny the way that people are getting mad about Elon Musk being a trillionaire? Like do you think like back in like 19 or 18, probably like 1705. They're like, this guy's got 100 bucks. You know what he could do with that 100 bucks?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Let's kill him. Let's kill him with these.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He got 100 bucks. He changed the whole world.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know. Inflation.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is that funny?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. Write it down. Put it in your act.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What did I say last night?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right after the Queef last night?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I Ordered a salad. A $14 salad from Bossa Nova. Yeah, she loves you, dude. She knows you need the help. She knows you need the love. At. At 78 the. I did. I ordered a salad from. From Uber Eats. And. And. And I had to go through more shit to get this guy to drop it off with me not being there. Give him a code. He was like, I can't just get. Leave it. I was like. And then I once ordered a new MacBook Pro from Apple, and they just left it in my common area. A $7,000. This computer. $7,000. And I beefed it up so I can make music on it.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Seven thousand.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. I got all the RAM and the space.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I get the rain.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But, yeah, like, I had to, like. Like, I needed, like, my Social Security number and two forms of ID and, like, me holding. Me holding, like, a fork with the. Today's date on the newspaper.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Got it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Funny.

[Wayne Fetterman]

A fork.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Never mind.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right, Cream, Take us there.

[Wayne Fetterman]

So then this is where it gets really interesting for Cream. So they put out this album. They're already like, okay, this is virtuosity. Musicians, right? The three of them together, they do it right away. Yeah, they have these. Neither one of those songs were big hits. I Feel Free. Or they. What's the other one off the record?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Summertime.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, no, no.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Spoonful. No, I'm just going through. Because it's definitely not Sleepy Time Time, which is the worst. I mean, that's like, that now it's

[Wayne Fetterman]

like they're not even trying.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean it. I was. As I was listening to the first time, I was like, this can't be real. This is. And that's the thing that I want to argue about this list and why this record is lower.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I think I have an idea. Keep going.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The lower the albums get on the list, it needs to be perfect from top to fucking bottom. You can't. For the next hundred episodes, Wayne. Which you'll be doing 47 of them. We should never say. I didn't like that. So why is that song on there? Unless it's just, like, a joke that they put on purposely and they did something weird with, like. You know, it would be like having, like, revolution. The one. Like the Beatles one.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I don't know that song on.

[Josh Adam Myers]

On the end. It's in the White Album, remember? It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's what I'm saying is like, that's like more just. But that's also like, studio stuff and they're fucking around with it. And it goes with the vibe. I mean, Sleepy Time Time is like, musically is sound as. Pardon the language, but just is like. I. I just was. I was shocked that I enjoyed where we could look at Disraeli Gears or we could look at. What was the other one.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Wheels on Fire.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, Wheels on Fire.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Did you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Which did you do?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I did Whales of Fire.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay. Who did. Oh, just really? Gears was Stuart Copeland.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. And.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But the thing is, is, like, you know, I didn't. None of those. I was like, all right. I can. I might skip over this one, but I don't, like, think it's bad.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Had.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And there was a couple songs in here that I was like, yeah. So.

[Wayne Fetterman]

All right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Not to cut you off. You also said that, though, they had beef when he wanted to bring Jack Bruce in, so they had already had issues.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, Ginger Baker was like, oh, that's the one guy. I can't. Yeah, he's the best bass guy in London, but I hate that guy. Excuse my language again. And I guess just the idea of working with Clapton, who at that point was considered God, so.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He was already considered God at that point.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. He got the God stuff during the Blues Breaker stuff. That's true.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

So it was. So they were like, yeah, let's try this. And to answer your question, I might be way off on this, and I would love your listener to weigh in.

[Josh Adam Myers]

By the way, our listener. I got a stalker.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Dude. You do say girl.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I wish. Wants to have sex with me. I think not a girl.

[Wayne Fetterman]

This is that. I think, just. Because if you think about all what's going on, remember we're talking about, like, the psychedelic scene in San Francisco in a little LA with the Birds.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yep.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And Pandora's Box right over. Just bring it down. And what's going on with Motown, you know, in Detroit.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Keep trying to sell that Pandora's box.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know, I know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And then we get excited about it, and I'm just like, all right, we'll keep going.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And then in the south with, you know, Otis Redding and, you know, all your. Those guys down there, Muscle Shoals and Memphis, all of that craziness and the Mersey Beat sound coming out of London and the blues sound that's come, like, all of it kind of converges. I hate to use the word crossroad. It's like. It's like right at the cross. And then this new kind of band takes out and even takes elements from jazz, speaking of Coltrane, and creates what will become arena rock with virtuoso guitar. Players like Eddie Van Halen and Jimmy Page and all of this stuff. And so I just think that's why they think this album is like a Big Bang moment, even though it doesn't sound like it to me. And I think I know why. Because it's recorded in England and it's not as good as what happens when after they do the 58th Street RKO theater tour with the who and all of this not tour, but the. The that they go into Atlantic Records and that's where they meet Felix Pappalardi. Remember you talked about that guy, good old.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The pop.

[Wayne Fetterman]

The popularity. Who has like a. I like. He's a classical musician and he really was able to help form that band. And then obviously the genius engineer Tom Dowd, who by the way helped create the Atomic Bomb. And that's. This is the level. He was on the Manhattan Project.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. He's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Give me one second. I gotta go tell. We gotta do a reel to reel.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right. Right now I have to record Sleepy Time. Yeah, no, he didn't do Sleepy, but so Tom Dallas carry the two.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know what I mean? That was a child's a chain reaction and it'll blow up the world.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Exactly. Columbia went to Columbia.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like Clap Davis on the phone. RIP Clive Davis. He passed away today.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Today?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. Clive Davis died today on my birthday.

[Wayne Fetterman]

He waited to Wayne.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He wanted to make. He wanted to wait 6, 7. He wanted to wait until you were like. And you hear about Pandora's box. Who once had diarrhea there? Clive Davis.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I get mad when I know something, but I can't retrieve it. And this is obviously part of dying.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Your mom slowly dying is having a scene.

[Wayne Fetterman]

But that's happened to me my whole life. That's what's happened to me my whole life where I can't. Like I remember something and like I. I have like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Happens to me all the time where it's like I'll walk out of my apartment, go two down two flights of stairs down and go, oh my God, I left my xyz.

[Wayne Fetterman]

All right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And I go back up and I'm like, wait, why don't I just come back up here?

[Wayne Fetterman]

So from there to there.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And I sit down and go, I should probably masturbate before I leave.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Love it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Let me get one more in.

[Wayne Fetterman]

We now we haven't talked about my porn, my pornography journey, ever. That'll be for another episode.

[Josh Adam Myers]

When my dad died, I found his big box of porn.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And it was all Asian eye contact, blowjob scenes. And I was like, like father, like son.

[Wayne Fetterman]

All I need is a apple I like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All I need is a vcr. And I'm in the jerk and smirking.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, my God.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm in the jerking crocus.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Those days with my dad.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon here is a John Holmes and Marilyn Chambers. He only watched pornos from the late 70s and the early 80s, too. His favorite was one called Taboo.

[Wayne Fetterman]

What?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, he loved one called Taboo.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Taboo is one of the most famous porns of all time. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I've jerked off to it a trillion times.

[Wayne Fetterman]

That's about incest, right? I think a lot of it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think so. Yeah. My dad was really.

[Wayne Fetterman]

What is the B plot? That was the A story. What was the. I know. There was an underlying theme underneath it and a metaphor. I'm sorry. That would be hilarious.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, they only would have had someone to help punch it up. You know what I mean? You know, who did they need? Frank Darabont would have really come in there. Yeah. And script doctored.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I do not. So. So anyway, so then they record this monster album with Tom Dowd and Felix, you know, which is not the album we're talking about, but that one really. They ex that album. And when they tour for that, then they play the Fillmore in San Francisco and put the Fillmore on the map and just. And then they do these legendary live shows and they're off and running. I mean, and they're just, you know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And we talked about it is that this, you know, this album leans more blues.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But, you know, when you. When I was googling, like just now, I was really. Why is this album important? They're saying it's turned blues into hard rock.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. Yeah. And again, it was already bubbling up with the blues breakers and with, you know, these other.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That still felt like blues.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. More than.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And this still, like, out of all of their records.

[Wayne Fetterman]

The next album feels like a little more like a heart.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. With some psychedelic ting to it, which I love, of course, love the Psychedelic teen.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. Yeah. And they're. It's just. They were just so fun to listen. I just like. You know, it was just. I like musicianship. Musicianship is the word I was trying to say. I really. And they exemplify it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Wayne Fetterman]

And.

[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Wayne Fetterman]

I see you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Wayne Fetterman]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Wayne Fetterman]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Wayne Fetterman]

I'm so glad I think is the other. I feel free. Those are the two.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's one of the ones that when it came on I was like oh I know this one. Yeah, I knew that intro.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And in the I believe in the American version of Fresh Cream is. Has the single on it and the British one doesn't. I believe that's the difference between those. And. And there's a long version, a spoonful. You know, they have the Willie Dixon and they. The Robert Johnson stuff, you know, and they're just kind of feeling their way out on this album Fresh Cream. I even like their last out, Goodbye Cream, better than this alb, which is. Yeah. And they, you know, they. They were already kind of broken up and they're like, just contractually had it put out, that album. It's so. Yeah, so that's it. I mean, we can go by the.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We'll do some tracks.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, if you want. If you want.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, but, you know. Well, first of all, I want to go back to the thing you said, someone got stabbed.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, that's earlier. That's earlier. They would. When they were with Graham Bond is. I think that's the name of that guy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Graham Parsons.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, no, no, no. He was a Blue Birds. Yeah, yeah. Remember another dead guy. Rich, spoiled, spoiled, had orange juice fortune or something like that, Right. I think so.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Just another rich guy wanted to hang out with the pores and dress like in rattered clothes. Rattered. Rat is a word.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Rattered. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, what I.

[Wayne Fetterman]

So, so, yeah, anything.

[Josh Adam Myers]

If, you know, you here, tell me about the stabbing and then I'll ask the question.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, no, no. When they were in, I. I want to say Graham Bond. I hope I'm getting that name right. He was the one that later kills himself jumping in front of a subway. Supposed again, there's still controversy about a very depressed guy. But yeah, when they were in that band, they would. They just, like Bruce would play too loud and not listen to what Ginger was doing and like, it would sabotage each other. I mean, just absolutely crazy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Who's crazier? Levon Helmer? Ginger Baker.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's got to be Ginger Baker. Did you ever see the documentary they made about him?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, I haven't.

[Wayne Fetterman]

There's a great moment in the. With a documentarian gets beaten up by Ginger Baker, the guy making the documentaries. Bloody Pennybacker, like, literally bloodied with a pool cue.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He's beating up the guy that did Paradise Lost.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's just like some nerdy film guys gets beat up by Ginger Baker during it. And in a way, the look on his face is. Blood is pouring down the side of his face. He's just like, oh, yeah. This is probably what I should have expected to try to find out about this.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What a crazy person.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Like, he used to hang out at The Layer Factory.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yep.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, I. Because I was in the early 90s, and then I. You know what's funny? I just got them to mix up because Levon was the one that had the barn and kind of, like, lived there and used to have those, like, jam sessions until I think he died.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And Ginger. I just always thought Ginger went, like, senile. And didn't he just shoot guns and, like, real angry?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I think he was living in. I want to say, South Africa. I don't know. But he. I. Oh, by the way, also, maybe. Because if Toad is on this album and there's a long drum solo on that and that. You know, one of my least favorite innovations in rock music is the drum solo.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So there's none of them that you like in the Air tonight.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I like drum fills. I actually like the one. I know it's lame, but I really. For a drum solo, I like the one on In a Gutter DeVita by Aaron Butterfly. Dude, do you have any idea what I'm talking about?

[Josh Adam Myers]

So when we were doing one at the Roxy, we were doing one with Burr, and I was gonna have, like, John Theodore was gonna come in and play and. And I was hoping to get Josh Homey to sit in and sing with Bill on guitar. Bill on drums, right. I was like, you know what'd be a good song for them to do is Bill made a joke about we should do in a Godda de vita. And then I listened to it, and I was like, dude, if we did a condensed version of that with Josh Homey from Queens of the Stone Age singing it in his crooner voice, it would have been. I mean, that's a great song. If you cut out.

[Wayne Fetterman]

With you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

If you cut out about 14 minutes, it's an amazing. I mean, you could.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It was a single version of it. So they did put out. I mean, they did do a cut. Yeah. I really like that drum solo, by the way. That drum solo inspired Ringo. When he finally did his one drum solo in the end. The.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, man. That's such a famous, like.

[Wayne Fetterman]

But it's inspired totally from Inigata devita. He's like, all right, I guess this is what I need to do.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And it is kind of like the whitest guy's drum solo of all time.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I love it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

A guy named Ringo.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Ringo.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So was Garrett Clapton really like.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Was he the most important part, or is it. Is this is a. All three headed.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's all three headed monster. But it's Clapton. It's that. It's God it's the guitar God. I mean, he's literally created the guitar guys and more than Chuck Berry and, you know, a lot of good guitar players. But, like, Clapton is did.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because being called a God.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

At such a young age. Like, when I bring up Bird, a stage on any time I've opened for him, it's like his. His tormentors, like, do not say, yeah, the greatest comic working today. Just give him his credits. Not a whole like, hell bar. Like, just bring him up. And a lot of comics don't like that. They don't like when it's like you set the bar too high.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You know, what comic would like that outside? Like some egomaniac.

[Josh Adam Myers]

When we. We saw. When we saw Barry Manilow.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We took mushrooms and they. When he got ready to do Mandy, the screen came down and it showed Clive Davis and the other guy from the Midnight Special, whatever that show is. Midnight? That Midnight show.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, Don Kirchner. I might have.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't know.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Is that Rock Concert?

[Josh Adam Myers]

It was like a television show called the Midnight.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, Wolfman Jack.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, it wasn't Wolfman Jack. Not maybe not Midnight Special, but it was.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, there was another show called Rock Concert, which was Don Kirchner's Rock Concert.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And Barry Manilow premiered.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, that sounds right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And Clive Davis gives him this intro going, this is going to be the next big thing. This is. This guy's doing something and he's giving this huge intro. And I remember Bill leans over and goes, see what he did right there? He gave him the hardest intro to follow, and he.

[Wayne Fetterman]

He nailed it, Mandy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, he nails it in that performance. And then, like, he plays it, and then they pull the screen up and you're like. You see Barry Manilow's new warped face. Put the screen back down.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Like, by the way, I don't know what's in your.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It was funny.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. I don't know what's in your feed right now.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's black people eating pineapple soaked in koolaid.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Have you seen the Sugar Sugar where people put sugar on the table and then put honey on the table and then.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Okay, never mind that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're on the PG version of social media. I'm getting. I'm getting because I'm getting like, you know, because I'm making songs about stuff that's like the absurdity of the Internet.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Is this me? Am I having a stroke or is this flickering a little bit?

[Josh Adam Myers]

It is flickering.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And I got a David.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, I like it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I was just like, don't you Know

[Wayne Fetterman]

that I love what his birthday Wayne is. And everything started flickering.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And at 67, he realized he was epileps septic. It took him to 67 years.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Thank you. Sorry about that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, now they can't see you.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, I don't care.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Now you're in the dark. Now you're. Now it's now just turned into a film noir. Are we in the Maltese Falcon right now?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Nice. Nice poll.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Thank you, buddy. I'm actually pretty smart. Deep reference, Bank. Not about Cream.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You did.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But what I was saying is, do you think Did. Did Clapton from this point on, now that he is, and from the Bruise breakers, when him being Eric Clapton is God, does he live up to the title Clapton is gone?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Well, it's hard because these other Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page and then later, you know, Eddie Van Allen and all of these virtuosos come after him. And in a way, you saw Clapton. There's a kind of a boring part.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I thought it was one of the most boring. It's the only show at Madison Square Garden that I've seen that I was underwhelmed.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I felt like he didn't bring it at all. I felt like he could have given a. It was. It was paycheck for him.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right. Thank you, you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And it was a bummer because I was like, at least if he's not going to shred, at least say something racist.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He didn't do anything.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right. That's what he's known for.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, he's right. Yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I think that's why he was God. It was more about that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I wish I wouldn't have created immigrants.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. So he's one of them. He's one of them. And here's the thing. The pressure for being the Shredder guy, the thing that has to do these blues eventually gets to. And that's why he. After Cream and Blind Faith, he goes into Bonnie Delaney and Friends and then, you know, and so, like, into a folk rock band where he. He's not even the main guy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Interesting.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Like, it got too much for. And they also got into.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So then why is there that. Yes, that's true. Hotel. Well, we did Mainline Florida. That's one of my favorite Clapton songs ever.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I love that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I loved that song. It's probably top 10 from doing this podcast.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. No, he's great, but he was. It was too much to live. It was to the end, you know, what Led Zeppelin was doing in the who and stuff like that. And they just. He couldn't. He didn't want to be part of that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And also there was. Yeah, through research. Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's. You know, there is a debate through a lot of music nerds that Jack Bruce is the secret MVP of Creed

[Wayne Fetterman]

because he sang most of the songs.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, I was going to ask you, I was going to say, I just found. This is a great.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, he did write most of those songs and he added this weird guy that he would write with. I can't think of that gentleman's name. And then like, I don't know if Ginger Baker wrote any of those songs. And Clapton obviously is doing Robert Johnson tunes, you know, and, and Felix, I think was very important to that band as well. Just getting there. That vibe of the combination of loud Chicago blues mixed with psychedelia.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I love you say it like that. I just. Do you think if any of those. If, if, if.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

If, if Clapton's replaced and then.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I don't know why. I'm not saying Prince, but the reason Jimi Hendrix does. Did a trio the Jimmy is Cream. Yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, wow. I didn't know that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. Yeah. So that may be another reason Fresh Cream, like all of that blew up out of there.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, I, I, you know, do you think like Jack Bruce gets overshadowed because of Clapton?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Totally. Yeah. Clapton had Layla. I mean, he had these monster cocaine and all of these very. There's not one Jack Bruce song that came out after Cream that I can think of.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It really is funny when you're Ginger Bakers, when you think about. And I'm saying this, guys, you know, as a, as a person that now I feel like I am in the, I mean, I'm not In the top 1% of music knowledge people at all anymore.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But, but I'm starting as someone that's done this podcast for so long. If you told me to name the three members of Cream.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, I don't.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, I think the one that most people are going to forget is Jack Bruce over.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Ginger Baker over.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I know. I think Ginger, because Ginger Baker is a character. The name that he's a character. The, the. Because he, you know, if I want to find all the crazy shit, I just know that he's done like crazy shit like try to kill somebody. Right.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. This is post Cream. I don't, you know. And don't forget gingerbreaker was also in Clapton's follow up band, Blind Faith, which was with Steve Winwood, which was also. It just seems like Clapton was, you know, he played on a Beatles album. Yeah. Clapton is by far the biggest member of the Band.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, he definitely had the biggest career and has more money than all of them. Probably like 19 to 25 times over.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. Probably was for. For Brexit. Probably was for Brexit.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He loved.

[Wayne Fetterman]

He loved politics.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He was one of the guys, dude. He loved Brexit. Well, the Cats in the Cradle and the.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, no, I'm just thinking about Eric Clapton. There's this incredible tribute to Bob Dylan at Madison Square Garden where you saw Clapton. And he does like a blues version of the Bob Dylan song about that breakup song. Oh, my God. I can't. Anyway, this is terrible. I can't think of the name of this song, but it's one of the. It's my. It might be my favorite Eric Clapton performance. Don't Think Twice. It's all right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think he might have played that the night that we were there. He did.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I mean.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Ain't no use in sitting. Wonder why, babe.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, he did not play that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, my God. Just. If you ever want to see what Clapton was capable of, that is the moment. Madison Square Garden tribute to Bob Dylan. And with the rocking with that band, there's a lot of guys from mem. You know, from muscle shows in Memphis on there. Donald Duck, Dunn and Cropper. And all of those guys are playing behind him. And it's. Don't Think Twice. It's all right. And he just does a blues. A fast blues version. And they. It's just staggering what that guy can do as far as. Yeah, but even in a way, I feel like, you know, Pink Floyd, you know, with their soaring guitar solo, you know, like sort of like all of this kind of eclipse.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, he slows it down and I think. I think. I think David Gilmore is that really inspired. Like, probably the edge from you, too. The way there's like really long chords and like he'd hang on something you. But I love that you. You said you keep talking about the blues legends because. Yeah, you know, I'm curious. And being one that is you and knows so much. What do you think Robert Johnson and. And Muddy Waters would think of these three British kids taking their songs and then turning them into psychedelic artillery?

[Wayne Fetterman]

That's a good thing. Yeah, that's a great question. I don't. I don't know. I hope they would be thrilled that. Because it's really. It's not only the songs. It's also an absolute tribute. Tribute to techno. Technology.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. You have to evolve. You can't mean technology. Yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Amplifiers.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We are hearing sleepy time time. Like sleep a time times

[Wayne Fetterman]

I got a nickel automobile.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm gonna drive it in my automob.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. I hope they'd be thrilled. But there is, and this is something I talked about with you earlier, and that the whitest people on the planet Earth, the English, are the ones that reinterpret, like, the black blues. It's just. It's wild.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Why do you think that? I know it's the pirate radio stuff, and they heard it coming over, but,

[Wayne Fetterman]

like, I don't know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is it because I always.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You know, it's because they are the same. Maybe it's because.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Maybe it's because. I know is. When I was in Europe, I realized that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

That.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That there. If you go all over Europe, you know.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The. The. If you see a young black guy in, like, France, it's like, you could tell, oh, this guy's French. You could just tell. It's the way they dress. It's like. And then. And versus our American, you know, where it's just like, there's a different culture, there's a different. The way they talk everything, which is, like. Which is what I love the most about being an American, you know, versus because there's still the. Like, a French black guy is still black, and it still has its heritage, but it's like they're closer to, like, you know, where they emigrated from versus an American, which feel. They feel like Americans, and does that make sense? And I'm not saying they don't feel like Frenchmen. They dress a certain way and. But then what's funny is when you get to the older black guys in any country in Europe, they remind you of any old black guy in Detroit. Like, bonjour, motherfucker. Pass me the fromage, baby. We cut that out. Should we cut that out?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I don't have a. I don't. I really don't have an answer for that. Other than that. It's one of the most fascinating that they just developments in all of that, these guys, because Chess records, you know, in R B records and all of that stuff out of Chicago, you know, the Electric Blues out of Chicago. And I think it's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think it's swag, dude. I think it has to be swag. I see. They see that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

They see you can hear. That's probably right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You can hear this, dude. It's because of. And. And this is. You know, why I think they're just copying. And I say this on stage. I did this when we talked about the Sam Cooke record. Is that when I was talking to Aisha Tyler? Is that you know, everything American, any. Any music has come from the black culture. And you can whittle it all down just the way in sinners, the way that all it evolved. When he's doing that one jam session, you can see all the history of it. And. And it's the same reason why, like, the Jews with comedy, the pain. Good, great art comes from pain. And having experienced hardships, it's like some of the best jokes I ever wrote was when I was broke, right? Because it's like. You're writing because it's like, okay, you're playing and you're performing because you fucking need to.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Like, well, how do you then? How do you. So I think for grandparson, I think.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I just think that American, you know, in America, like, the. The reason the music was so, you know, powerful and evocative was because of the history of the American government and what they did to. To black culture. And you know what I mean? This is not a good thing at all. Like, I don't think anybody's like, well, thank God that happened. We thank God for segregation. No, it's nothing like that. But it's just when you go through those kind of things.

[Wayne Fetterman]

What about the water fountains? You feel like that helped a little, you know?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, you know, dude, white people get too close to the water fountain anyway. Like, we go put our lips on it for guys, but that's. You ever seen a white guy brush his teeth when he sucks on the wall, he fucking puts his mouth in the water fountain. No. And look, right or wrong, I just think that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, but why? My question. Yes, I get where that's where that music came from, but why were. Why does England so into them?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because they're closer. They're close enough to America to get the music. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Broadcast.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's. No, it's a. It's. I don't know. I. I think there's an authenticity to blues music that hit them. And they were just like, oh, this isn't like a jaunty Gilbert and Sullivan song or something like that. This is for real. And maybe. And they just. Here's the big question. Do those guys feel the blues or do they just are able to copy the blues? We'll be right back. You know, that's a big question, I think.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Are they just copying B.B. kingliks and Freddie?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're the guy. You're the guy that would know that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I. I just think they love playing. It is my feeling in the same way that like. Like Adele, when she Sings in that kind of bluesy way. Just that love singing like that. And music is for everyone.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Can I ask you a question? What would be your. What comedic project have you worked on that would be like. You're working with a Ginger Baker.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, a crazy person.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, but like, something where it's like, you're. I know you've worked on a million projects, and if you're willing to talk about it, because, you know, you don't just say the exact people that were involved if you don't want to. And it's like. And it could just be now you're friends with them. But, like, what was a. Oh, man. There is a. There is a thick tension, but good God, did we create something great.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, I see.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Does that make sense?

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, I haven't really had. I haven't really had words to like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because you're a pushover and there is like, you were cutting those five pages you wrote. Way.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I'm a team player. I'm a team player. But I. No, I mean, not, not. I mean, there is one thing, but not.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What was it?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I don't want to talk about it. It's too painful. Another. We'll do it another time. And we're running out of time anyway,

[Josh Adam Myers]

because we should wrap this up.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Did you wrap it up?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You got to go to get oral surgery. I said, happy birthday to you.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I loved. This was so exciting. When you told me we're going to do it today, I was like, yeah, perfect.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I kind of. I really wish I would have known ahead of time.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, no big deal. No big deal.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You've just always been 55 for me. You've never aged. I swear to God. Like, you. I mean this sincerely. You haven't gotten. You've. You've always. You just looked good. If you go back to the. To the. You know, those time I saw you with when the Wire and Kirby enthusiasm, you know.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Isn't that cool that you. You created a character, whether you.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Respectable, despicable.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Despicable. I think he's one of. I think he's. I think he's just as good as any Seinfeld character. I think he's as good as Wayne the Mailman. Yeah, I think. I think he is Newman, I think,

[Wayne Fetterman]

is the character's name.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, dude. And just the way he had to. Send me a bill. Send me a bill.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You went in for the hug. I don't know. That's more Seinfeld than.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah. It's. It's all. It's all micro. Examining human behavior.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You've done so much in your 67 years.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Can I say what's coming up, please? I know we're not at the pushing part, but I'll just say real quick next weekend, Larry David's new series, I'm now released from the NDA. I can talk about it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're in it or you wrote it?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I'm in it. Yes. I'm in it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you play like a sunglass character?

[Wayne Fetterman]

But, yeah, I play a horrible person with mutton chops from the 1800s.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is it going to be fun? It looks funny. The trailer looks great.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I mean, I'm fingers crossed.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is it closer to. Is it closer to Clear history or closer to Kirby enthusiasm?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I think it's closer to maybe like History of the World. Mel Brooks. Remember that movie?

[Josh Adam Myers]

One of the best movies of all time, dude.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I think it's closer to that than drunk. You're talking about drunk history?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, no, no. I was gonna say. Well, drunk history. Yes, I was gonna say. I love drunk, but I. Yes, I Like, that's a way better comparison because drunk history is like the reenactments, which. That is like somebody getting drunk telling

[Wayne Fetterman]

the story, which is incredible. Genius.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How.

[Wayne Fetterman]

How, How.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Hands on. Was Larry in it? Was he just. Was he in the room?

[Wayne Fetterman]

He was good. It was good. I was surprised it was as scripted as it was because usually he doesn't like. He excels in the non scripted.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But so when you're doing. When you're doing curb, like.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What are you getting?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Just bullet points.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So when. For that character, for the. For the. That guy that you're gonna play the first time you're playing him with the Wire. What did. What did it say in that. That scene?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Scene? It just said you're obsessed with Julia. Louis Dreyfus want a meter and that you can help. And in order to have them pull down the wire, you want to get a meeting with Julie.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That was so funny. And then she's. What was she pissed about again? When she finally meets you and she's

[Wayne Fetterman]

like, oh, because I missed.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because you were late.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Like, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Did you see what she say? Like, suck my dick or something? Like, really offensive.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It wasn't that. But she's like, yeah, when you have an appointment, keep it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah, she was.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I mean, she's the best. I really feel like she's a modern Lucille Ball.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, she. Dude, she's. She's the. The Madeleine Kahns. The chorus leads her death to King. Oh, I do Madeline Kahn. I mean, it's. It really Is like. It really is like.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I was just watching Paper Moon. Have you ever seen that movie?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I have. That's the one that. With the. With the. O', Neill's, right? She won an Oscar, the 13 year old.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. Tatum.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Tatum.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, you gotta watch it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Immediately after that rap. She got that Oscar and broke up a Coke.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You gotta watch that movie.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I should. I should.

[Wayne Fetterman]

There's so much I again, I don't ever. Do I ever tell you to watch anything?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I will watch Paper Moon if you listen. I think I recommended a record for you, Lux by Rosalia. I saw her at mad.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, yeah, I did listen to it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I saw her at the Garden.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, I didn't like it. It.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Wow. It was one of the best performances.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I know. You told me. You told me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, the new. I just went. I haven't talked to you about the concert.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, no, no. I'm sorry. But you recommended to listen.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You didn't like it. Wow.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's gonna be too weird. It's too weird for me. Too weird.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Interesting.

[Wayne Fetterman]

All right, let's wrap this up.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You were just saying you watched. So. Okay, I gotta give you another album then.

[Wayne Fetterman]

All right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'll give you a movie to watch. If I'm watching Paper Moon, you watch.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I've already seen Obsession.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Three ISIS beheading videos.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I've already seen.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You've already seen them?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Already seen them. I like. I like Mondo videos.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I got the. I got the Criterion Collection. All right. Do I have any further questions? Do you feel like we nailed everything about listen to everybody. We're not going to go into the details of all the dreams and we've done that. We've done that in two other episodes.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right?

[Josh Adam Myers]

We got the drummer.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Listen to the album. It's like it's worth. It's the highest rated Cream album. Correct.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It really is. I mean, I don't think there's another one after.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, I don't think so. So it's the highest rate and it. I think it's in a way like a big bang moment for what becomes arena rock. All of this, you know, Woodstock and Hendrix and. I can't believe. Yeah, no, I love it and all.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All of it.

[Wayne Fetterman]

You know my buddy Jimmy Page and Jeff, Beck and Slash.

[Josh Adam Myers]

They call you today? Did they call you for your birthday?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, Slash always calls me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He's like, where did you go? Where did you go now? Thank you, buddy. Promote the book, please.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, so this book is finally at the History of Stand Up.

[Josh Adam Myers]

This is mine from.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, I'll Give you this.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Can you sign it?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. From Mark Twain to Dave Chappelle. You better.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Can you do. Can you put something out of all the 45 episodes we've done together? Yeah, you got to put. You got to put like a DL thing between you and I. All right, I'm gonna say what. I'm gonna let you choose out of one of the funny things we've riffed on.

[Wayne Fetterman]

All right, all right, all right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

There's a Christmas record in there. We've. Dude, we've done everything. Lot thinner than I thought it was going to be.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, this is the crazy thing about this. It's very thorough. It's very thorough and it's very succinct. Like comedy should be. No excess. Yeah. So anyway, this book's out, and then the Larry David thing drops next week on it. Home Box Office is called.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, for now, until Larry Ellison takes it over.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And I usually don't have much to promote, but this week is so much.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Don't you have a documentary or something that's going to come out soon or you've been working on?

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, the Mel Brooks one is already out, and I'll tell you when the other ones come out.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What's the other one? Can't talk about how many NDAs have.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I signed an NDA about my NDA, so I'm not allowed to say that I signed one. That's where I'm at.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What's.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Thank you for having me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Who's the man called the who. Who.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, exactly.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right. You know, the Dilly Dally, ladies and gentlemen, are amazing. I mean, you're a co host at this point. Good God. We asked the same questions, everybody. Wayne, are you prepared? Your favorite question three, because.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Let's do it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm gonna throw an extra one in there.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Let's do it. Let's do a rapid fire.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay. Favorite song?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, this?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I like the first song.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, I mean, that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

That was NSU or whatever it's called, or. I don't even know what's. I don't even know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Let me just double check.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like I move your head, you're getting.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I really like the way that song sound. I was like, okay, this is gonna be good. And then, you know, it may be spoonful a little bit, and then. And I'm so glad.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, yeah, I love that.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, that's so great. But you know what's funny? The one that I thought I made fun of the most is the one that I listened to the Most Sleepy time time.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, really?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because it's just. I think it's like a. It's like a blues, like, you know, children's song. You know what I mean? It's like. It's like, you know, now's the time to say good night. Because I could see that my dad would have of. It really did remind me of my dad. My dad used to always do like, you know. You know, them bones. Them bones. Them dry bones. When he would, like, dry us off

[Wayne Fetterman]

after a bath, like, oh, okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We'd sing songs and, you know, I think that's kind of where that came from for me.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Is he wearing, like, a Redskins jersey?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No. He's naked too. Oh, yeah. Wow.

[Wayne Fetterman]

That's weird.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I was molested.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That was my original name. Molested.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, he didn't touch me. But no, he would always sing, you know, the. Like. Whether it was like a. He just. Music was a big part. So Sleepy time Time felt something that I might make up.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, or like a blues musician would sing to their child. So even though it's. It's a shite song. I loved it. Least favorite.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I think it's the. God, I wrote it down. I forgot. What. Give me the track list.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Nsu Sleepy Time.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Dreaming.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Screaming.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sweet one.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Screaming is my least favorite song.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What didn't you like about it?

[Wayne Fetterman]

All of it. Like, I can't believe Clapton's on it. It's just. Yeah. I feel like it's not good production. Not good lyrics.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's crazy we're saying that about a record that is lower than other. We should not be talking like this.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Don't yell at me. Talk to the staff at Rolling Stone magazine. Oh, it's not my problem.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Can you not to this album just. Can you. Do you have genitals?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Barely. Barely. Yeah, I mean, I guess too. Even to Sleepy Time. I think you could. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe do a blues song like Spoonful or something. Not to Toad. I feel like the drum solo is not a good thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but maybe if you're, like, super athletic in bed. Not like me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Cramp up.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Ow.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Rank the members of importance to this band.

[Wayne Fetterman]

That's awesome. That's awesome. Well, obviously Clapton, God, is number one.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He's one.

[Wayne Fetterman]

He's not way ahead. Distant second. God, it's. For me, it's going to be Gingerbreaker because I'm a drummer, you know, and then Jack Bruce. But they're, like, tied for second and third. I love.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I like both those guys who could be replaced to. To keep the. To keep the albums. Not keep the album, but keep Scream. Still Scream. And if you had to replace one of them, who would you replace them with?

[Wayne Fetterman]

You know, it would be. I would put the drummer from Rush. I know he just. He passed away recently. Yeah. I would put. If. I think Neil Pert could play those parts.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I love that you went. I love that you. I love that you went. Like, not their era.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I love that you did it like that. You could have said, like, oh, damn, Hambone Jenkins.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. I know he was just a kid or something at the time, but I really. I feel like. Because he played in a power trio and I think he could have done it without stabbing the bass player.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay, I'm gonna. Now, who could replace Jack Bruce?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Bruce. I don't know. It's hard because he sang. You know, he sang a lot of those songs. Sting.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sting could do it, but it would turn into like, you're the life.

[Wayne Fetterman]

No, he came. Look what you said earlier, that guy that maybe Jack Bruce is the unsung hero of this band. Because he sang that'.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think that's.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And also because he was able to compliment. You know, it's just a guitar and a bass. So like, he's doing a lot of very.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, and when I see. When I see, like there was that thing about, like, man, if. If the singer goes down, it's hard for me to take that band.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, the only.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Clapton did a couple song, you know, did Crossroads. Sure.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But you know what I'm saying, though, it's like, I like the only reason the Journey Band with. With that. The new singer after Steve Perry left is that he sounds just like Steve Perry.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Right, right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And you're not going to get Steve Perry because he's done. So you can still accept it. But then like someone like Stone Temple Pilots, which I love. I would never go see them with.

[Wayne Fetterman]

The new singing bass player is very rare. Right. I mean, outside of Paul McCartney.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No. What's his face? The guy from Motorhead.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh, wait, Police. Yeah. Okay. I guess I'm wrong. Not that rare.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So. But who would replace. Who could replace Clap Clapton? Jimmy Page, Hendrick.

[Wayne Fetterman]

It's hard. Yeah. I mean, obviously Hendrick surpasses Clapton in my opinion. And then, I don't know, you know, Back or Paige or any of those English blues guys. Mike Bloom figure, you know, there's a bunch of guys that can play the blues like that, but.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right, final thoughts on this. Bo on Life too, because it's your birthday and this is the last one.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Well, it was really fun going back to 1965.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You love that year.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Now, I like 55 is the year. I like 10 year. But just going back and like, what. Like the. The end of, like, when they played that RKO theater with the who and Wilson Pickett. And, oh, by the way, the drummer for, I believe Wilson Pickett was Buddy Miles, who later became Hendrix's drummer. Anyway, anyway, side sidebar. The. Just the absolute end of, like, Vaudeville, where you would have numerous shows, you know, and a presentation and a movie. Like, just that they were just at the very end of this and then they birthed this whole, you know, arena rock explosion. It's just.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It really.

[Wayne Fetterman]

I can't believe I was, you know, that I. I was into it. My older brother was into Cream and I. That's how I actually learned about the band. And I just. Just to my ears, like, you know, was.

[Josh Adam Myers]

If you. So this is this. What we're trying to say is, ladies and gentlemen, is that this. This little nugget of an album.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Super group and style of music. Turning and turning.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Plugging in. Plugging into a Marshall amplifier takes you somehow, some way. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

To, you know, any hair metal band.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Oh.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, doing this.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Motley Crue. Right over here.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I was going to say Motley Crue.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yep.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's. It all just starts here. But it also starts with, you know, three huge egos.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah. The Cream. They call themselves the Cream.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What do you think would have been a better name?

[Wayne Fetterman]

I don't know. I mean, it's. It's so ego wild. Like, oh, guess what? We're the best. That's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know what. There are some comedians that are goaded that. That do say that they're the best, that are living. It's like, you know, it's like before

[Wayne Fetterman]

they released an album, they're calling it before you've ever done comedy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oasis was kind of like that, too. They were very egotistical.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Well, that's talked about getting on fights and stay on stage. Right. And the Kinks. Yeah. Usually they're related.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I just love that it's out of all this kind of chaos, you know, it's like intention and. And just like power. Struggling between this band, you get to make something that is, like, really cool. It's like Apocalypse Now. It's like. It's like.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And they're only together a couple years. I mean, it's the whole thing. So.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But no, but then they. They went off and did other Products. Ginger played with Clapton a few more times.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah, but nothing like. I feel like that was the height for both of those guys. And Clapton luckily reunites with Tom Dowd in Miami and does that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, this is like Shaq and Kobe in the first couple years, the last year, the last few championships. You. I mean, where it's like they. They don't get along at all. They're not talking, but it's like, God damn when they get on that basketball court.

[Wayne Fetterman]

And there's something indulgent about this band too, you know, with their long jams and things.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We don't talk about them the way that we talk about the Beatles. We talk about the Rolling Stones. Like, they get. They're never in the discussion of. Of. Of. Of most important bands, most influential. But realistically, they kind of are.

[Wayne Fetterman]

There's a strong case specific kind of music that I like. But yeah, no, they're not like. They're not even like the Stones. I feel like the who is bigger, way bigger than them. Way.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, man. Three lunatics that accidentally changed the world. Just like you and I. Two lunatics.

[Wayne Fetterman]

All right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is that it?

[Wayne Fetterman]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What did I tell you? What I tell you the one. Only Wayne Fetterman. Follow him on Instagram at Wayne. No, insta Fetterman. Insta Fetterman. And. And wish him a happy birthday, man. I mean, it was last. It was on Monday, I think we recorded it. But wish him a happy birthday to all the Die Hards. And to the other dude that showed up my show. Please don't kill me. I feel like you're gonna get that book. The history of Stand Up Mark Twain to Dave Chappelle. He signed it and he'll sign send copies to you. So do it. For new music, Distrokhrid has bought us Glitter by the Flying Mojito Brothers. All the links are on the podcast website, the500podcast.com send us your song if you're in a band. We'll play it. We'll play it. I'll play all of it. Next week. It's Frank sinatra in the we small hours from 55. Do your homework all. The time. Ra.

[Wayne Fetterman]

Hold on, baby. Look at me. She told me to go meet her in the back, so I went back there. I was just waiting.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, well, after like three songs, she managed shows up. I was like. I was like, baby, what's up? I've been standing there for like 20 minutes. And she says, a diva. It's never late. She comes. Precisely. Can you believe that? Sam? It's it. The 500 keeping it flee See for the Fleece Nation on the 500

[Wayne Fetterman]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

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