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128 - Iggy and The Stooges - Raw Power - Maria Bamford
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Maria Bamford makes her debut on The 500 to discuss the album that was a turning point for Iggy and The Stooges
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Josh Adam Myers
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Maria Bamford
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Josh Adam Myers
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Maria Bamford
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Josh Adam Myers
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Maria Bamford
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Josh Adam Myers
Sprite Obey your thirst. This show is brought to you by Distrokid Bring youg Music to the Masses. The 500 the 500 JM been walking us down through that 2012 edition so it ain't nothing to you. Hundreds want to go and in need of a friend the King of Peaceful angelo Talking the 500 until the end Talking the 500 until the end with my man JL on the 500 Talking the 500 until the end. Of night love in the middle of a firefight. That is Search and Destroy. It's by the Stooges from the 1973 record Raw Power. It's also number 128 out of 500 on the 500. What's up party people? I'm Josh. Adam Myers. I'm your host and we're going through Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums. Merry Christmas everybody. We're gonna make it quick. I'm taking off right now. This is a good one. This is a goodie. You want to give us a Christmas present? Subscribe to the Patreon $5 gets you something. 25 gets you more merch. All that cool. Patreon.com backslash the 500 podcast I'm very grateful for Jeremiah, Adam Logan, Alex, Pete Emily, Morty, Wayne, Lekka, all of them. Everybody involved with the 500. If I missed you, I love you guys. And 2026 is going to be a great year. The albums are getting better. So be with your loved ones today. Tomorrow, enjoy yourself. But let's get to the episode. Our guest today for the Stooges, I think our final Stooges record is the one and only Maria Bamford. Maria is one of the funniest comics working today. She's a comics comic. Man, this was just so much fun. Once we figured out the audio, I think you guys are gonna love it. Not only is she on tour right now, but she's a documentary coming out. We don't have a release date, but it's gonna be at Sundance. And it's directed by Judd Apatow. So keep your ears peeled, eyes open, and, yeah, dig this episode. Rate, review, and most importantly, subscribe to the 500. Listen free on all platforms. Anyway, get your pods. Follow me, Josh Adamyers on all social media. The podcast at the 500. Email the podcast at 500podcast. The Gmail. We got a Facebook group run by Crazy Ev. Our website is the500podcast.com Cool. Let's do it, guys. Iggy Pop and the Stooges. Raw power at 128. Figure it out. And we got the sound working. We're just doing, by the way, this is what the podcast has turned into. It's just 45 minutes of me doing Benny Bonassi beats over the Mortal Kombat. Raw power. Raw power. God. That's enough. All right. That's the show, everybody. Merry Christmas. We did it. We did it. I can't believe we're. I can't believe this is happening. I cannot believe this is happening. Is this happening? Miracle Christmas Miracle Christmas Miracle, miracle White Christmas. What a. What an odd record to talk about. The opposite of anything Bing Crosby ever could have created. But before. Before, ladies and gentlemen, we get into that, this is. We've been doing the podcast for what, six and a half, Almost seven years. Seven years. And, you know, and today I think it's our final. Our final Stooges Iggy Pop record. There might be a solo record. Jeremiah, if I was you, I would check that math because we are talking today. Is it sad? Is it. I love it. I've seen them live. I've seen him live. I've seen him live. That's amazing. I've seen him. Seen him live. Me and John Moyer went to go see the Stooges with former guest Mike Watt at the 9:30 Club in 2006. Which I will. I'm gonna send you the picture, Jer, right now so you can post it so Maria can see it because I think I posted it before, but it's super funny. And then I saw him at the Palladium with Duff and Chad Smith. But, but today I think it is our final record, Raw Power. The album that sounds almost as if it was recorded inside a panic attack mixed by the panic attack itself.
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Maria Bamford
If the, if I only know Iggy. Sorry, am I talking out of turn?
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Josh Adam Myers
No, no, no. God no. Please jump in.
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Maria Bamford
I only know Iggy and Sus and or Iggy Pop himself through my husband. I know because he went to go see him, I think it was two years ago where Nina at some sort of Rose Ball situation.
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Josh Adam Myers
Sure.
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Maria Bamford
And yeah. And he said it was fantastic. He was fantastic. And he sounds, he sounds wonderful at this on this particular record. Although I don't know what I'm talking about. Am I the worst?
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Josh Adam Myers
You are so far we're checking the polls and no, you're not the worst. All right, you, the polls say you're right now in the 75th percentile, but you're moving up because you're the only, the second person that's ever worn a scarf and that the first one, Peter Asher. Peter Asher, former beetle who hated me more than anybody. So.
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Maria Bamford
Well, this is not, this is not a scarf. This is a hand dyed sweatshirt with some weird embroidery on it. If that makes, if that bumps me up a little bit more.
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Josh Adam Myers
Honestly, now you're dropping, you're actually even lower now. People like this scarf. They like. I, I, I'm so excited. Here's the deal. And I love that your husband is a person that turned you on to them. I, you know, and we'll get into all of that, but before we even get into the history of all that, do you promote away, do anything you want to promote. You know, we'll do it at the beginning, at the end, but anything important going on, we don't want to miss it. Let's knock it out right now because, you know, it's, this is, this is what we do. This is what we do.
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Maria Bamford
Judd at Mr. Judd Apatow has a documentary coming out about me. He's done several documentaries of comedians and mine comes out the first day of Sundance in January. So hope that's interesting. And if not, best of I love you. I love you and I wish you all the best. Make good choices. Now the other thing is that, yeah, I'm constantly Touring. So look on my website, maribanford.com and I will, I will be coming near to you within the year. Unless it's a course. Casper, Wyoming. I will never return. Never return.
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Josh Adam Myers
What happened in Casper?
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Maria Bamford
Well, it was hilariously one of those, which this is what I. I kind of love about. My husband will tell me about famous concerts, but there was only. It was like a 1500 seat theater and maybe a hundred people showed up. And the door guy kept saying, yeah, I mean we had Seinfeld here and he like sold it out like four nights in a row. And I'm like, we. I mean we can close off part of the, part of the theater so it looks a little bit more cozy. No need, no need. I like this. The pathos of seeing a comedian, you know, just with just titters, a few titters. And yeah, it's my favorite.
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Josh Adam Myers
That's what you say to the guy. That's what you say to the guy. You're like, I'm still in Covid seating. So I like to make sure there's seven speeds between everyone. Anytime I sell less tickets, I go, this is exactly what I wanted. I wanted Covid seating. I wanted it intimate night. Intimate.
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Maria Bamford
Intimate. This is the coolest thing about me is not many people are into it. Get it?
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Josh Adam Myers
I'm a deep cut man. I'm a deep, deep comma, B side. I always love my buddy. I've said this a million times. Yeah, Seinfeld, he's apple pie. Everybody loves apple pie. I'm a radish. Not everybody loves a radish, but the people that love radishes, they fuck with it hard. I'm a radish.
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Maria Bamford
When I cheer up my husband, I try to say things that he says about his record collection. So like, you know, if I talk about punk, let's talk about the Faith Void split album. I mean, everyone says Bubba Dupreen his guitar skills, but it's really Ian McCain, his brother off Discord Records who never sold out.
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Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, dude, what a hip guy. This guy knows what's up.
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Maria Bamford
He does, he does.
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Josh Adam Myers
So is he. So are you telling me he's the one that schooled you on, on Iggy Pop and the Stooges, like.
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Maria Bamford
Well, and also. Yeah, because he's originally from the mid Michigan. And so my husband used to work for an artist who grew up in that area of the. Of the world and was a big fan. So. Yeah, and I love reading biographies of, of musicians and I especially love the punk ethos of just. You don't have to Learn it. You don't have to know what the music is. You don't have to know anything. You just get out there and you jump. Jump. You jump. That is, that's my favorite ethos, is to. That everybody gets to participate. You don't have to be very good at your. I mean, I think they were good, but I think I've, I've enjoyed that. Of hearing of the Ramones and others. Yeah. Because I, I don't know what I'm doing. If you couldn't tell.
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Josh Adam Myers
Well, let me ask you a question. I love that you said that. Do you feel that, like, do you feel that there is a connection between like punk rock and stand up comedy? I mean, I feel like, you know, it's that same. It's that same. You know, I talked to my drummer, Nick, or I talked to somebody in music and you're like, well, you don't need to learn how. You don't even need to know how to write music or read music. But you just gotta have the feel. You have to have the feel of, of what the vibe of the music is. Know where the one is and know like, know how like actually like rhythm goes in a sense. But you know, in stand up, do you, do you. I mean, because you, you, you don't have to be Seinfeld. You don't have to be. You, you don't have to be a serious joke writer. Like, what do you, do you think that, that punk rock and comedy are like hand in hand? Or do you think you have to have an idea of what you're doing, like comedy class style to jump in?
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Maria Bamford
Yeah, no, to me, I feel like you just have to have an addiction to trying to keep getting up there. And yeah, that is the thing that bothers me the most about any sort of comedy discussion is saying, oh, this is real. This isn't, you know, this is the super real deal. And then this sucks. Which I know that happens in music as well, so apologies around, but I, yeah, just. I think anybody who's getting up there, like, that's, that is, that's the person who's doing it. Like if he's the last person or she or they are the last people who've done stand up, they're better at it than me because I haven't done it in a week. Like that. That's my feeling. Because there's, there's also, it's, it's very humbling.
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Josh Adam Myers
Very, very humbling.
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Maria Bamford
Justly humbling. And I love that. Yeah, it's inspiring to me. I Like reading about people who keep, well, Iggy Pop for sure, somebody, you stay alive and you keep, you keep doing it whether people are caring about it or not. And yeah, I just, I love that, I love a long career where they just keep talking about your first and third albums.
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Josh Adam Myers
I, I think that, I definitely think there is like the, like I said, the connection because, you know, there is a, there is a, a level of like, you know, when we first start doing stand up of just not knowing what we're doing and just going up there and, and the failure and, and, but having fun and just being like, you know, being able to like take that and, and have that maybe a quasi embarrassing moment because it's, I'd say it's like 1 in like 10 actually go up the first time or the first few times and actually have like a set and like the confidence to actually get through it where it's not even like slightly awkward, you know, or they have the presence to be, to be in the moment and just be enjoying it because we're also in our heads. Do I remember that joke? Did I do that? And blah, blah, blah, you know, but, but, but also there are the people and I think there is that thing about, you know, you, you just, if you're funny, you just need to figure out how to. It's not very hard to be yourself and be funny. Whether it's, you know, three chord punk rock or it's, you know, or the blues or, or, or heavy metal. It's just we, the genre, whatever it is, you know, I think there is like a style. It's like this would be like, if you were to compare this album Raw Power, which we're going to get into the whole history of everything with the Stooges and all that jazz. But if you were to say, you know, would this. All right, this is a two part question. Would this album Raw Power be performed in a comedy club? Is it a comedy club comic? Is it a theater comic? Or is it a shitty open mic on vine at a cafe where, where five days a week before the open mic they have an AA meeting.
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Maria Bamford
Oh my God. Well, gotta be the shitty open mic where they have the AA meeting. Because that, I mean, that's my favorite on some level. Like I perform, I, I, I don't know if it's, well, it's definitely lazy, it's not punk rock, but it's, I do shows in the morning in my neighborhood in LA because I just, I can't possibly be bothered to stay up till midnight and go to the Laugh Factory and bomb. I can bomb right near my house.
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Josh Adam Myers
Wait, wait, where are you doing this? Where are you doing this? And where can we see you and who's coming?
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Maria Bamford
Oh, tons of people. People are underemployed, sober and bored out of their minds in LA County. And so I can sell out a 40 seat theater on a Monday.
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Josh Adam Myers
I love that. Oh, my God, I love that. I didn't know you were doing that. I think that is incredible. That's, that's, that's more punk rock than going to the Laugh Factory.
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Maria Bamford
Well, and, well, but I think there is a kind of machismo that is the same for music where it's like. And then, you know, he threw peanut butter at the audience. Or is there, Is there a story? Because I read the biography and I didn't find that he threw poop at the audience. He took a shit behind the. The Iggy pooped on stage. Did he actually poop on the audience?
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Josh Adam Myers
I mean, here's the deal. Like, no one really knows. The legend goes that it really wasn't a full poop. It was actually just a. Just a shark discharge. No, I have no idea. I. So I. That's something you gotta look up. Jeremiah, I mean, on it, he was passing a kidney stone.
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Maria Bamford
I'm interested. You know, like to go, oh, wow. Yeah. What, what really happened? He had the school. He had the peanut butter on stage. I know, I'm at Detroit.
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Josh Adam Myers
I've seen that.
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Maria Bamford
You've seen. Yeah, I saw that as well. And I saw the interview with the Australian host that went poorly. But I, Yeah, I love, I, Yeah, I, I like the kind of stuff. Yeah. There is Stephanie comedy where it's like, this is funny. This, you know, you know you're funny or, you know, you're not. You know you're funny, you're funny. And it's like, I mean, I don't know if I'm funny. To me, that's one person and I'll buy anything.
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Josh Adam Myers
Kill me. I'm. I'm very funny with me. Now, them over there, I don't know, maybe I think a couple of them. Maybe I crack a couple of those nuts.
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Maria Bamford
Like the idea of, oh, I'm gonna please everyone. That, that's very retail, you know, that's very much like Hollister. I can't. That's ridiculous. No, I'm not. As I gotten older, I used to be mean to the audience if they didn't like it, you know, or what I thought was mean. Probably was very passive aggressive. But now I'M I just try to be curious because it is weird when somebody shows up to a show and they don't know what it is.
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Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, that still happens with you. You see, you're getting people that are showing up to your shows. Someone who's been. Been around for so long, so well respected, had so many great specials. I mean, so many incredible comedians shout you out. I mean, I mean, even recently, I mean, because I was going to make that connection later, about, about frontman is like, you know, even recently you've had some people say that you're one of the greatest living comics in articles that I've seen. Which, I mean, I know, like, if you're like me, you're probably, I mean, I'm assuming. And knowing you, you probably turn to the elephant man and you're like, no, please don't look at me. It's not me.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah, I haven't, I don't yet have a burlap sack and I will not wear one. I will not wear that burlap sack over my head. I. Yeah, and that's, you know, that's fleeting and it's all really lovely and yet, you know, is it any more meaningful than someone say she sucks? I mean, is. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, my, my dad, the last time he saw me perform, he sat in the back with this other guy and said, you know, we had a great talk because he didn't know. He didn't understand what was going on either. And yeah, like, I don't think. And that's. My dad loves me and is, you know, and he knew that I was going to pay for dinner that night. So he could not get himself to laugh out of fear.
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Josh Adam Myers
He probably. His friend didn't get it. You know, your dad got it. The friend didn't get it. He wanted to be cool with the friend. You know, they hang out, they hang out together. He doesn't want to be like the intellectual, you know, I get it. The other one, dude, the other guy, a little slower, so don't even worry about. But it's. Yeah, there is a, you know, I, I think, I think stand up comedy punk rock. And I do think, you know, when it comes to a record like this, which it just blows my mind and I love this. I was, I. When, when Emily, Code Red, Emily Kagan, our incredible booker, when she said I was. We love you. And when we. When she said she had you for this record, I was like, what? Like Maria, Maria Bamford's doing Iggy Pop, the Stooges. Raw power. And she's like yeah. I was like all right. And I was like okay, well this chick is definitely. She was. She was. She was in Minnesota with the Replacements and she's just a rocker and she knows Prince and. And. And the Husker News and the Everybody and. And instead no loose bands.
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Maria Bamford
Low for Slow Core. Trampled by Turtles. That's another alternative band up there. Anyways, just Duluth.
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Josh Adam Myers
Big shout out to the Duluth. Duluth. The big Duluth hitters.
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Maria Bamford
But this is. This is my only thing is through my husband. My husband has taught me about. So I don't. I know. I feel it feel like I know nothing and he'll be embarrassed by my. My being on the show. No no, no. Feel embarrassed remembered.
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Josh Adam Myers
Dude. Maria, here's the deal. Here's the deal. This music. It finds you when it's supposed to. It doesn't mean you have to be the. You know I'm the. I'm an OG Stooges fan. I was with them right at the beginning. You find them when you're supposed to. So what were you attracted to then? Like what was it when. So how did he play it? Did he just. Because this is not something you like put on like honey, do you want to go see the new Avatar? Avatar Way Water. Just drive to the.
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Maria Bamford
Whoever drives gets to pick the music. And so that's. That's how I listened and yeah. And I think it's. I get more interested in the biography because isn't this. This album is the one where it was taken out of his control. Right. Like they. Somebody else mixed it and it seemed like from Some people thought that they mixed it in a way that they knew he wasn't going to like it or they did a half assed job of it. I can't. Yeah. Isn't there some drama around this?
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Josh Adam Myers
Well there is some drama to mix it right. Is that the key detail would date But David Bowie was there is. Is kind of.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah. Yeah.
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Josh Adam Myers
So I guess here's the deal for everybody just to kind of get an idea we get through this and then we'll dig into the. To the great googly moogly of the album. But the background so if everybody doesn't know this is this third record Everybody by the Stooges. Their first album came out in 69 which we did just self titled then funhouse from 1970 which had like down on the street and I think we did that with Fitzsimmons. Right. Who did we do the original Stooges with? Unless I think it must have been Somebody cool. We always get cool people for this band. Except for today. Except for today, we. I don't know how the. We got Maria Bamford. We were, we were killing it, dropping. But wait, we had Fetterman we had Fetterman on for the first time, self titled. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Oh, that doesn't seem like one that, I mean, Fetty Wap, is he working on.
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Maria Bamford
He was on one of my specials. He helped me in one of my specials. He played the keyboard. So.
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Josh Adam Myers
So, Maria, guess what? Wayne Fetterman has been on this podcast more than any person. He's been on it over 20 times at least. He's one of my favorite people in the world. Even though he's a holocaust denier. I look past all of that and I say, you know what? It's cool, dude. He makes good points. I listen to him and I let him talk. But then he knows about the records, so it works. But no, I love him so much. Is he working on the doc with you? I'm assuming he's working on. He's like Judd's right hand man when it comes to docs.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah, I, I don't know, actually. I, I've only seen like a, you know, rough cut of it, so I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But if they're pals, then maybe they have talked about it. I know Jez got 5 million projects going at once, so.
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Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, I just, I also they're. They're already giving the reviews about the, about your, your bi. You know, your biography, your documentary. They're saying it's up there with man on Wire with Leaving Neverland Ranch and the new 50 Cent Diddy documentary. They're saying the expose that's going to come out about Maria Bamford. She's not going to be performing at those 10am shows in Altadena anymore.
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Maria Bamford
She's going to be wearing a. Yeah, a scarlet letter. Yeah. Well, this is the hilarious things for. This thing was filmed over four years and the guy who was filming it, he kept saying, what is this about.
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Josh Adam Myers
Man?
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Maria Bamford
Like, I don't want to get cancer. I don't want to, you know, try to make an arc to the story. So please make something up.
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Josh Adam Myers
Can you die or something? Can you like lose a limb or just meso sleep? Can mesothelioma just go get aids? Go get aids. You go down the street, go get aids. Downtown la. Right down the street.
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Maria Bamford
How about Cookie Monster Bulimia? A lot of that's when you eat it. You eat it and then you spit it into a cup.
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Josh Adam Myers
Oh, my God, Brandon. I just love the. That's like one of the key grips. Like, why is she. This is a doc. People are gonna watch this. I mean. I mean, I just worked on that. Corey Feldman versus the World. I mean, at least that guy thinks he can sing.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah, it was that. That was. Yeah, those. Yeah, that's. Well, and I get. That's the thing at Largo, when you do. Comedians go up at Largo, there's always musicians attached. Like the guy from the Eels.
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Josh Adam Myers
Yes, I know him. And then you'll get back a lot. You get back a lot with Apatow. I love that. I always miss that. I wish I could see it. That's so cool.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah, yeah. But. Yeah, but I don't. I. Beyond. Yeah. I'm very good at reading biographies of musicians. And then I feel like I can listen to them more easily because I go, oh, you know. Yeah. Because my husband likes a lot of 70s reggae, which I wasn't into at first, but now that I've read. I have read so many books and I've watched the movie Rockers six times. It's a 1970s. Yeah. Like a heist movie, but it takes place in Jamaica where everyone's so high that when they're taking the money or the expensive items away, they're losing their shoes and they're falling over.
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Josh Adam Myers
Wait, why did we break in here, man? What were we supposed grab. Should we grab out of the. They said, can we find the. The. The employee break room and maybe grab some snacks?
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Maria Bamford
Man, that is. It's almost exactly like that where it's like they're trying to steal a washing machine and. Yeah, it's good stuff. Please check it out.
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Josh Adam Myers
I gotta watch this. I love it.
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Maria Bamford
Horse Mouth. Horse Mouth is the star.
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Josh Adam Myers
Oh, I love. It was originally intended to be a documentary, but turned into a full length feature.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah.
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Josh Adam Myers
That's crazy. Well, all right, so back. Back to this little skidoodle of this record. And then, you know, like, did we. Did she even answer the question? So your husband. Wait, I feel like we haven't gotten there. Your husband played Raw Power and you were like this. Or you were just like.
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Maria Bamford
Well, and I also like. I. Yeah, I. Yeah. And I. I think once you. I am one of those people where it's like, I hear it more than three times and then suddenly it becomes a hit for me. Then I'm like, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know this. I remember this.
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Josh Adam Myers
I like this song. Yeah.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah.
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Josh Adam Myers
I like this. Oh, no, no, no. That's I do this all the time with this record. Not this record, but with the podcast where you just. Yeah, you're like, I. I don't know if I get this record. And then you listen again. You're like, all right, I think I. That's. That's pretty cool. And then, like, by the third or fourth listen, you're like. You're like, you know these dreams alone when it takes my time Every moment of the night I'm feeling in the br. That you. You just start feeling the song and it doesn't happen with every record. But yeah, I. I totally get that. And especially if it's someone you love and they're like, this is cool. And then you go, oh, tell me more. So you were immediately. You weren't. It took a listen or two, but then you found this and you were like, yeah, yeah.
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Maria Bamford
And also, you know, it has good memories of us, you know, our fam, you know, family driving around Los Angeles and yeah, so I. Yeah, I. I chose. Chose this one and I love it.
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Josh Adam Myers
So. Yeah, so. So here to go off of what you were saying. So I love that. And big ups to your husband, you know, for. What a cool guy. So. So. So if we were saying they had the first two records, they're not successful. The very little commercial success. The band is in disarray. Some have even said. And the band even kind of is quite. Is quietly quoted saying that they have broken up. Bassist Dave Alexander, he's fighting alcoholism. Iggy Pop shooting Shoot Boot scoot boogie in the. The Black Tar heroine, the China White. He's. It's escalating. It's getting bad. Until there's an intervention. Was escalating prior to. Oh, to the intervention of David Bowie. Wow. So David's on coke and he's doing drugs. Papa is quoted saying very few people recognize the quality of the Stooges songwriting as it was very meticulous. And to his credit, the only person I'd ever known oven and print to notice it was Bowie. So he brings on Bowie to. To produce this record. I think he's worked on some other with them too. Jeremiah. I'd check that math. When they were in Berlin, right? Well, yeah, but that's later. That's later. If I'm not mistaken, it went to.
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Maria Bamford
Berlin to get clean. It seems like a terrible.
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Josh Adam Myers
Speaking of which. Speaking of which. Speaking of which. Oh, speaking of which. I can even send you a picture. I can. I can send multiple photos. I was holding the microphone Iggy Pop used when he sang Lust for Life. At Honza Studios, I stood in the exact same spot that David Bowie was looking out the window at Tony Visconte, kissing his girlfriend, where he wrote the song Heroes. And I've been in the studio where he wrote that. I actually found the. The dealer of the heroin that Bowie and Iggy Pop got, and I did some of it. That was great. And then I went and got. I got curry worst. I got some curry worst and a Donner kebab. As you do. Love Donner. No, so, yeah, so, I mean, there's. That was all later, though. That's an all later thing. Yeah, it was 76 to 78. And this was. Yeah, yeah. Five years before that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So this is like he. So Iggy signs as a solo artist, he relocates to London, is where he writes and records an album with James Williamson, who served as a Stooge's second guitarist in November 70. They need to find a rhythm section, so he brings on Ashton, Uh, Ron Ashton and Scott Ashton. They fly over to Particip. Then here we go, the recording sessions. All right, so here we go. So this is released on February 7, 1973. Recorded between September and October of 72 at CBS Studios in London. Produced by Iggy Pop, with Bowie assisting in mixing it. That they. Like you said, they have one day to mix the album, resulting in this raw and unpolished sound, which years later, Iggy would go back and remix the record as well. Have you ever done that? Are there jokes that you wrote and then recorded and then you were. I have a way better punchline now because I know, like, Mitch Hedberg used to do that.
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Maria Bamford
Really?
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Josh Adam Myers
I think so. I'm pretty sure, like, he would, like, rework bits.
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Maria Bamford
Oh, God, no. Once I've done something, I'm. I forget it. It's. It's a way. It's off. Off my. That. That is. I do find that fascinating about how you keep the passion for a song after you've sung it for 20, 40 years or whatever it is. Yeah. And so did he. But he and Bowie, they had some fights about this album. Right. Or it was like he was kind of mad at Bowie.
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Josh Adam Myers
Let me find out. Jeremiah, you want to double check that math? Yeah, I'll look into it. So band relationships are shredded. Bowie steps in as a supporter to help save it. This. You know, the mess that they. That they had been making with the. Coming in with these great songs, not being able to spend the time fighting over the mixing. Yes. They're saying that they were going back and forth, but still keeping it very civil. But you're also dealing with drug addicts at this time, you know what I mean? So imagine what that must have been like in the studio, you know, and, and, and this is like, you know, they're coming in with these songs about self destruction and lust and boredom and violence and nihilism and swagger. So imagine just right there on itself. They're, they're, you know, the, the mood that they, they must have had. Can we ask you a question? Because this is so basically everything's falling apart and yet even with this one day mix, they get this incredible record which maybe not at the time was doing well, but I mean in the discussion of music, this is considered the prototype to punk rock music. The, you know, one of the, the best garage records ever made. Have you ever made something while feeling like everything else in your life was like collapsing? Have you ever had like a moment like that where you're like, everything's coming down and I'm working on this and wow. The, you know, this actually turned out pretty good considering.
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Maria Bamford
All the time. All the time. I mean, you never know. I, I, it's gonna be artery how people respond to it and hopefully I'm proud of it. But yeah, it's funny when people latch on. It's a pop thing. If it's like a popular culture thing sometimes, you know, they'll, they'll enjoy a Louie Louie or rather than. Yeah, yeah, I think that happens frequently. I don't know what the response is gonna be.
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Josh Adam Myers
I remember when I was like, bro, a broke comic and the writing just seemed like I was writing so much and I was performing even more and I, cause I cared so much and I needed, you know, the, the, the hunger of the success and, and even like, you know, ah, these bills aren't paid in that. It still was this, like I was still, I think some writing some of my best material or just you know, I was like hungrier. Like, do you, do you. So I was gonna say, did you feel like you've gotten some of your best out while you were, while you were kind of like in a, in a spiral or like life was a little bit harder?
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Maria Bamford
No, no, I don't think so. I think food, shelter, those trump any kind of. I mean, yeah, you can have some funny premises about being unhoused, but that are very relatable. But yeah, I feel like the reason, I feel like my first, you know what, the first album is so good because you spent 10, 10 years working on it, you know, like that, that's why I think things are so good usually in the beginning. And I think now I love making new material as much as I used to, except for I lack ambition. Because once you have made an album and you know what that's like, and you go, oh, you just make the album. And then people just go, when's your next album? Like, it's not like this high. It's very much like any other job where they're just like, awesome. See you Monday. Like, yeah, it's not gonna be this ecstatic experience or even as far as money, like, it's not gonna save your life. So, yeah, I think I'm always trying to maintain a level of. Of. I always feel like I'm a little hungry. Hungry on some level, just to. To make stuff more of it. When I started was based on fantasy of like, oh, and then I'm going to destroy, and people are going to carry me off stage like I'm a Faberge egg. But now I know that's not. It's never happened. And even if it did happen, I'd be like, don't touch me.
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Josh Adam Myers
Crowd. Serve me without touching me. Can I just hover above your fingertips? Like. Like the. The main bad guy from Dune. How he just floats above everyone. I can't think of his name. Not General Zod. That's from Superman. Ah. What his name. Harkison. Harakisson. Doesn't make it Harken. It doesn't make a difference. Is it the Harkonnens? I don't know. I think you're close, but, yeah, I get that. I like being housed too. Huh.
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Maria Bamford
Think about popularity. I almost feel like if there's too big a crowd for comedy, isn't that just fashion? Like, isn't that. Aren't we kind of going towards. If there's a large crowd for comedy, isn't it just fascism? Isn't it just. It's kind of a full every laughing all together because we're all in on this point of view. I prefer a confused crowd of 20.
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Josh Adam Myers
At 10am Monday morning, 10am Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Nope. Mondays, Mondays, Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays. Because she's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, she's a road dog. Playing. Playing Jones. Playing Jonesville, Wisconsin.
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Maria Bamford
Oh, my Lord.
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Josh Adam Myers
She's not allowed. Back covet Covid numbers. Covid numbers. You sit there and you sit over there, and you said all the way back there, you right there, him right there, and that person gonna wear a mask. All right. Hey, everybody. So you guys have probably heard me talk about how I've been in bands my whole life. I love writing songs and performing in front of crowds. Just like with comedy. As a musician it can be kind of hard to cut through the noise and really stand out as an artist. I feel like half the music projects I've been in have ended just because we couldn't figure out the answer to that eternal question of how do we get people to hear us. But then again, that was before there was Distrokid. Distrokid is a digital music distribution service that brings your sound to the masses. It's a one stop shop for getting your songs on itunes, Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube Music, Amazon, Deezer, Tidal, and many more. What's these? I never even heard of Deezer. How many of them are there? I know that that's like the holy grail of streaming services though, and getting paid. They want to we want to get you paid for your music. That's huge because a lot of bands go broke before they get big. But Distrokid collects earnings and payments and sends 100% of these earnings to artists minus banking fees and applicable taxes. And that's just one of the tons of benefits of using Distrokid. You can send big files to anyone with their Instant Share feature. You can use the Hyper Follow feature to promote your release and get pre saves on your song. You can even create personal landing pages for yourself, your band, your brand, and whatever you like. It has a free Spotify Canvas generator too to generate your own Spotify Canvas for your songs. And the Mixia feature instantly masters your tracks for higher quality audio. So if you're ready to bring your band to the next level, it's time to check out Distrokid. The Distrokid app is now available on iOS and Android. Go to the app or Play Store to download it. Listeners of this show can get 30% of the off their first year by going to distrokid.com VIP the 500 that's distrokid.com VIP the five hundred for 30% off your first year. Dig it. Thursday Night Football is on Christmas night and it's only on Prime Video. Wide open Touchdown. This week the Denver Broncos and the Kansas City Chiefs meet in a Christmas night showdown. Has the league ever seen anything like this? Coverage begins at 7:30 Eastern with football's best party teeing up tonight. Presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Broncos and Chiefs Christmas night at 7:30 Eastern. Only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details. I love this. I love, you know, it's funny. I love that you're doing this record. I, I see the connection in so many different ways. I mean, this is a gift. This is a gift. Jeremiah. It's a gift. At Marie on Raw nerves. Self sabotage. Intensity, absurdity. Art that feels like it's screaming from inside the body. Proto punk manifesto. Fascism. Talk are only. It only took, it only took 38 minutes to get into fascism.
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Maria Bamford
And Bored. I, I, that's from this album, right? Bored.
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Josh Adam Myers
I think there's a, I think there's a, a frenetic energy of this. This is a, you know, like I said, lust, violence, swag. These are the buzzwords. Swagger. I wrote down, I wrote down self destruction. I mean even like, you know, I think there's a, there is a, there is a bravery to letting something so ugly be exposed and, and be almost too much. There's something like, it's just, it's something, it's, it's really, it's really cool for this record to which, you know, is, you know, you're coming out of the early 70s when, when there, when there's like, you know, rock and roll is bloated. It is big. It is, it is so serious, so self serving. So it's all virtuoso guitar guys. And you fucking have these, you know, the Stooges that are just like, I mean, the. Christ, they're called the Stooges, you know, I mean, Iggy Pop, he looks, you know, he's a weird looking guy. If any of this is a weird reference. And this came out way later, but Iggy Pop kind of looks like Zelda from Pet Cemetery. You know, the woman that lives upstairs that's like, Bob, feed me. He's got a Zelda face. Yeah. So, I mean, this is. And punk hasn't even happened yet. So this is a record that in a sense helped create it. It is, it's rejecting everything that's before it. There are no solos for showing off, just Blunt Force, you know, even to the first track, the first track, which is probably the most famous track on the record, Search and Destroy. I mean, this is a, it's inspired by the Vietnam War. It's. Iggy has positioned himself as a walking weapon and outsider. It's become an anthem for alienated kids everywhere. Is this, was this one of the songs that when your, when your husband played it, you were like, like, oh, I like this one.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah, it's a good, it's a Good one. I mean, I. I don't. I'm terrible at describing things.
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Josh Adam Myers
You don't have to just. You can say good, bad.
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Maria Bamford
And. Yeah, I love the pace of the. You know. Yeah, I like. I like that. I don't. I don't. Yeah. And you can tell that everyone is. Yeah, it's intense. It's intense. That's intense.
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Josh Adam Myers
I love that. So my question to you because, you know, this going off the title Search and Destroy is like, you have built a career around voicing the thoughts that I think a lot of people try to hide and do. So do you ever feel like. Like, you're on a Search and Destroy presence just by being honest? Like, so you're just, like, searching and going through just like, what can I talk about? To almost, like, help me process it? Like, how deep can I go?
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Maria Bamford
Or totally. That's the only thing I can do. Like, I don't have anything else. I mean, it's either a form of sloth where all I do is material that is directly relevant to my experience on Earth, or. Or it's genius. Let's say. Let's use the latter. But, yeah, like, my current album is all about money, and I find that super interesting to hear about bands and how they'll sign a deal and then they'll owe the record company money. Yeah, like. Or. Yeah, because, you know, I think it's. It's not during this phase, but at some point has no place to. On people's couches and stuff like that. Anyways, I. I love finance, finances, and economy stuff and love it.
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Josh Adam Myers
I love that you love it. We heard some of it. We heard it, broke up, and then you went. I love money, finances and money, everything. I swear to God, everything broke up except the last two. I. It was like cash, bitcoin. I love money, finances and money. Next question. I'm not lying. I swear to God.
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Maria Bamford
That punk music, you know, there is so much, you know, like, oh, we don't need anything. We're raw. And yet you do participate in capitalism. Everybody does just by being alive. So I like that too, how eventually people have. Start having more concern about what their contracts say. And. Yeah, I think. Interesting. Oh, oh.
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Josh Adam Myers
I want to ask you a question because we, you know, we've talked about the mixing in this, and I mean, and you talked about finances too. And you've talked about, you know, we. We mentioned, like, this is a. This is a very controversial record because they had such limited time. So this mix, there's. There's like three different versions of this. There's the mix that we have listened to, which I think we all should have listened to, which is that first 1973 one or 1972. Whenever the record came out, that was the one that we wanted. Then if you on Spotify, Darklord Spotify, you can listen to the Iggy Pop one that's out there. It's literally in. It's literally right after this on this one record on the anniversary. So yeah, Bowie. Bowie mixed it, which added to the mythology. Then you have Iggy. He claims he mixed it with the idea that the vocals should dominate everything. Like a deranged sermon. Would. Would. Let me ask you, have you ever like when you were working on your TV show, were you. Were you able to do whatever the you want or were you getting notes constantly? And if. If not, has there been a project that you have gotten the. What's the project you've gotten the most notes on?
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Maria Bamford
No notes.
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Josh Adam Myers
No notes.
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Maria Bamford
No. No. Netflix, at least at the time had no notes. They were like you do you. And that's, that's what I. At least from my perspective. And yeah, I, yeah, that was a very. A plush experience.
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Josh Adam Myers
I love that.
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Maria Bamford
A pillow pet.
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Josh Adam Myers
Have you had like a pillow pet? Have you like one of those, like one of those, like one of those ultimate warrior Hulk Hogan pillow pets that we used to like Body Slam, which, you know, which was just ah, back in the day. Ah, I love finances because finances help you buy all that. Have you had somebody. Have you had there been a project that you've worked on that you, even if you weren't creating it, that you've been a part of, that you just, you saw a lot of, you know, hands in the pot can. Adding to the ingredients of the stew.
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Maria Bamford
Oh my God. Yeah. There's anytime I've been on a sitcom that's like a three camera type thing.
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Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
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Maria Bamford
Wow. Is that a drag?
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Josh Adam Myers
Even though you love finances.
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Maria Bamford
Well, it's. That's you. It's union work. So live better work. Union. Okay. And then. But yeah, it can be. Wow, not a creative process or what seems to me not a creative process at all. Like very 70 people deciding, is it a joke or is it not a joke? Like, oh my Christ, who the fuck cares? Nobody's watching this, man. Even if millions were watching. How much does it, you know, somebody needs to slip on a banana peel at this part and you're arguing whether it's a banana peel or not. Anyways, I, Yeah, I, I'm not a fan of sitcoms.
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Josh Adam Myers
I know. I. And I mean, who is. I mean, they've only done, like, two good ones, and one was Al. I loved alf. I don't think I've. I was watching Hamnet. Did I say that to you, Jeremiah? I went to go see Hamnet. Oh, is it good? Which is that. Oh, man.
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Maria Bamford
Mean.
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Josh Adam Myers
If you want to cry, it's. It's. It's a. It's made for. It's really. Yeah, you need it. We talked on the phone. I know you need it. So do I. And so I went to go see Hamnet, and, I mean, I cried so hard because it's just. It's brutally like. The girl is so good in it, and the kid is so good in it. And my buddy was like, dude. It's like, dude. You know that he wanted to see it because I cried so hard. I go, yeah, dude. I mean, it. The only time I've cried harder was the first episode of Alfred when he had to call Melmac to let him know he wasn't coming back. And, I mean, I was like 7 or 8, but I wept. I mean, I wept. So was it. It was. It was up there with that elf cry. That's how hard I cried, everybody. Was ALF crying at the AMC in Kips Bay? Everybody.
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Maria Bamford
No. Is this true? I'm a hot goss person. Was he having. Iggy having a relationship with David Bowie at this time?
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Josh Adam Myers
Oh, hot tea, hot tea, hot tea. God. This is a Morty question. Morty, would you know, I. Well, I. I think they were. Ian, I don't want to. They weren't fighting. At least there's nothing that documents, like altercations or arguments, But Iggy Pop is often referred to Bowie as a benefactor and guardian angel who helped him through addiction and brought this album, brought his career back, right?
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Maria Bamford
So he was like, okay, fledgling and David Bowie came from a very wealthy background. Is that not right?
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Josh Adam Myers
I mean, at this point, Bowie is, you know, gazillionaire. I mean, this guy is like, you know, I always loved Morty. I said. The coolest thing I said was this in a. Was this in a. When this came out. Excuse me? I said that, Morty, about one of the records we've done about Bowie. I was like, when this came out, was it a big deal? And he goes, every Bowie record was a big deal. Like, you know what I mean? Like, when he dropped a record, it's like, you know, I. I know this isn't. I don't know what comic I would say, you know, when they. When they. I mean, maybe years ago, when like Chris Rock would drop like a, like a special. But there's, Yeah, I think there is a, there is something about Bowie has that mystique of just like anything he touches. Whether it was Mata Hoople, whether it was Iggy, you know, and the Stooges, like he just had that thing. He made four and a half million dollars in 1972 when this came out. But that's, but that's not. How much is that change for inflation? Like, what would that be? $4 million is probably in this early 70s, is probably like 25 million or like. Yeah, 30 or 50. I don't know, dude. I think so. But he was still in massive debt. And you brought that up already, Maria, because I know you're focused on finance, but you. Yeah, he was also in big time debt.
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Maria Bamford
Well, doesn't that affect like the music, like the relationship he had with. Of David's coming to save him, like how shitty that would feel? I don't know, like that kind of, those kind of relationships for me whenever I haven't been paid or it feels like uneven. Like it feels, it feels bad. So anyways, I think, because maybe that's why he remixed it, is that he wanted to just say F you, Bowie. I don't know.
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Josh Adam Myers
I, I, you know, I think I, I do listen, you know, I think a lot of the artists that we love, especially the younger ones, like, they get caught in those bad contracts, which is like the record company has been screwing over the artist forever, you know, Hence why you have people like Taylor Swift who's re recording all of her, her albums over and over. Because she's just like, no, they're making, they're making all the money and I'm making nothing. They're. It's, it's, dude, it's, it's like being in the record industry is like, is like going to college. Like you're behind the eight ball. They want you behind the eight ball immediately to take out a 25, 000 to 50, 000 loan. So once you, once you finish that record, you have to tour, you have to make another record so you can recoup the costs. Because if not, they're just gonna keep you and eventually you're just gonna end up broke, you know, and, and homeless. Not homeless, you know, but let's, you know, unhoused about Riyadh.
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Maria Bamford
Is that.
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Josh Adam Myers
Sure. Ask me anything.
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Maria Bamford
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I obviously wasn't asked, so I couldn't say no, but I would have said no.
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Josh Adam Myers
How much they offer? What's the offer.
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Maria Bamford
What was it like?
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Josh Adam Myers
It was, it was. So I, I'll say this, I went with Bill Burr. He was the headliner. Obviously, we're playing the arena. I had just come off a tour with Bill. I've been in Europe for like two and a half months and was doing stand up stuff, but I wasn't doing like straight stand up. I was doing musical stuff. And so I had the gig. We flew to Bahrain. We did the gig in Bahrain, which was like a nice warm up for me, which no restrictions, no nothing. We could talk about whatever we wanted and the show was great. Then we, we went to the Riyadh show. We were the first show in the arena. And I, I'll say this, the morning of, we were both nervous. But, but dude, they, they, they go, you can talk about whatever you want. Just don't talk about the Saudi government or talk about Muhammad, which neither of us were going to do anyway.
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Maria Bamford
Oh, I got a 13 minute closure.
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Josh Adam Myers
You mean, you tell me I can't do my, my Muhammad bit. Well, that's why you brought me here, you know, you know, I'm the, I'm the top Muhammad comic. They. No, it was, I, dude, there was, there was, there was like no restrictions. Talk about, talk about anything. We wanted to talk about be dirty and, and I mean this. And I know everybody doesn't want to believe it. It was, you know, it was some of the most fun audiences I've ever performed in front of. It was really a trip, man. Like, I, I, on the audience, I, on the rich people, I talked about the poor people up top and, and I, and I made fun of the fact that they're all wearing the same outfit and flip flops and, and they all, they all got, you know, hot chicks. It's like, dude, I just, I just really like, had so much fun. And Bill, Bill murdered and, and they treated as well, you know, the, the hotels were beautiful. You know, the only thing that sucked was like, they, there was like, you know, I was drinking at the time, so, so you couldn't have a beer or anything. That kind of sucked. And trust me, if there was ever a show, I want to have a drink before it's Riyadh, you know, like, just the amount of stress of like being there and like being like, are they gonna dig it? It's a different country. But it really was great. And then the next night, Bill left. And then I stuck around and I watched Chappelle's set and hung out with him, and that was amazing. And I stuck around One more night. And I did an early show and then I watched Kevin show Kevin Hart's and, and he was great. And you know, it seemed like all the comics were having a good time. It was just. And, and rightfully so. I mean, the pushback that people, some people were getting and you know, I get it, I get it. But you know, I, I. For me, who's not on the flyer and not one of the big names and not nearly making even remotely what. What.
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Maria Bamford
That's interesting. How much were you paid?
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Josh Adam Myers
Not even, I mean, a percentage of a percentage of a percentage. Like I was, I was. It was low. It was.
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Maria Bamford
Let's hear it. Oh, tell me the number. Or can. If I name a number and you go up or down?
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Josh Adam Myers
Okay. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
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Maria Bamford
Five grand. Oh, okay. 10, 20. Okay. 15 around there. Okay. Yeah, that's fascinating. And that fascinates me too, is how the headliner earns tens of hundreds of times more than the open skill.
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Josh Adam Myers
Yes.
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Maria Bamford
I try to do profit sharing. Whoever who's opens for me, so they earn a third of what I'm earning because it's crazy.
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Josh Adam Myers
Oh, my God. Really? You do that?
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Maria Bamford
I, I don't always do it because sometimes I'm not making enough money. Like I don't want to. I can't create a, Create a, A sweatshop. Yeah, I gotta do four dates in Iowa. But yeah, yeah, I try to do that. My friend is usually Jackie Cation, who opens for me, so love Jackie. I, I want her to do well, I'm doing well. I want her to, you know, it's not trickle down, it's flood, flood down.
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Josh Adam Myers
Well, Bill, I'll say this, I'll say this, Maria. Bill did, did throw me more money on top of it out of, out of his. But he's one of my closest friends and I think he kind of saw, you know, what was kind of happening in America, the amount of pushback people were getting. He was, he's got a lot of people that, you know, because he had talked about, like people going to the Saudi government and are doing shows before and, and look, I, I get. People want to, you know, they want to like, just poo, poo anything.
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Maria Bamford
And.
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Josh Adam Myers
Oh, you know, you, we thought you were the, you were telling it like it is, and it's like, listen, and me and Bill, we talked about this. You know, it was a. Yeah, the offer was big, but once you got there and it's like, you see, like these, these people are like, they're just the regular people are the, Are Just regular people. And the country is trying to, they're trying to save their ass, to be honest. I'm not going to sit here and say in a bad thing. But they know that like oil is only people are going electric cars this, that and the other thing. So they want to like start open themselves up to different forms of entertainment. So in the country, the only way that people are going to want to come over there is if they start treating themselves like western countries. So this is one of the steps along with the golf tournament along with ufc along with WWE and now the enter the movie industry. A lot of shooting over there. So like Bill said and I agree with it and Chappelle said too, it's like we're just moving the goal post 10 yards down the field and then next year it's going to be even different. And then in three years everybody's going to be like, you know, like ah, it's like that we're all doing the Riyadh Festival. It's just the way it's going to kind of move. And they did the same thing with the golf tournament when Liv started and all the golfers started working there. It's just people want to on stuff. And you're not wrong. The country, I'm not going to see you say the country's the best and the worst, but so is America. We're pretty shitty. And so is, you know, in England and all the shitty stuff that other countries have done. I mean, Christ, it's like nobody's perfect. They just happen to still be closer to the imperfect. And we seem to be a little bit further away, but still with some, with our footprint in the bad stuff. So it's a weird sitch. But you know, I expect you to be doing it next year, Maria, because you as we talked about love, finances and money.
- [62:31]
Maria Bamford
But I also, I have, I have OCD about like if it's good money or bad money. So I probably can't do. I can't do it. I can't do. Can't do ads anymore because I can't get myself not to shut up about. I'll totally start to critique the company that I've shilling. Yeah, I, I couldn't do it. Not, not that I think I'm high and mighty because I, I've done some. I don't know. Yeah, well, I think all arts organizations can are sort of money laundering. It's non profits and non profits way that extremely rich people can give say that they're giving money and get a tax rebate you know, it's all that stuff where it's like, no, that's not great either. So everything's problematic is what I'm trying to say. So I'm staying home.
- [63:25]
Josh Adam Myers
Except for the 10:00am Show.
- [63:26]
Maria Bamford
Except for the 10:00aM yeah, you gotta.
- [63:31]
Josh Adam Myers
Do the 10:00am show. The 10:00am show.
- [63:33]
Maria Bamford
It's actually 9:00am, guys.
- [63:35]
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, God. I was gonna go and now I'm out. I'm out. Even Jackie was like, what the am I doing? Like, keep the money. Just bump it at. Bump it two hours down the road, man. What are you doing?
- [63:49]
Maria Bamford
The best part is when as soon as I tell somebody they're like, that was comic. They'll go, hey, could I. Do you think I could get a.
- [63:58]
Josh Adam Myers
Guess off who's doing that? Who's doing that?
- [64:03]
Maria Bamford
Who's asking people? Like, guess sets?
- [64:07]
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. Have you had who's dropped it? Who's dropped. Who's dropped in? Who's dropped in? Who's dropped in? Who's dropped in?
- [64:14]
Maria Bamford
Oh, no, no one. No. No one famous, but local comics who live in the neighborhood where you do.
- [64:22]
Josh Adam Myers
It, where you're doing it, where.
- [64:22]
Maria Bamford
Just so everybody knows, it's a block black box theater. It's outside in. And it's not every week. It's just weeks I'm in town and have nothing to do. They're very nice and they let me use the space.
- [64:35]
Josh Adam Myers
I love that 10am 10am black box. Fata spas with Marv, who loved the mom.
- [64:46]
Maria Bamford
I announced it on Instagram, so that's the only way you'll find it out.
- [64:51]
Josh Adam Myers
But don't buy it. All right, let's, let's. We have so much we could have talked about, but I don't give a. This is way better. Like, this is. Like, this is. This is what the podcast is. I'm telling you. Radical honesty. You know, inner chaos with connection, danger. I mean, what great song titles. Where's all the stuff that I had had before? Hold on, hold on, wait a second. Oh, I have these great little questions. All right. Are these. Is this album raw power? Is. Is this best to be listened to alone or at full volume or by accident or during an emotional spiral?
- [65:33]
Maria Bamford
Oh, definitely. Right after a fight.
- [65:38]
Josh Adam Myers
Yes.
- [65:39]
Maria Bamford
While you're driving or during a fight. Oh, you should have taken that exit. No, I will miss it.
- [65:52]
Josh Adam Myers
I'm a street walking cheater with a dime for the neighbor.
- [66:01]
Maria Bamford
Escalate it. Escalate the anger.
- [66:07]
Josh Adam Myers
If this album were a voice in your head, is it helpful or is it. Or is it honest or is it just. Honest.
- [66:15]
Maria Bamford
I think it's funny. Like, I. I think it's funny. Like. I mean, I know that's sort of awful, but I'm sorry. I don't know. Yeah, I think it's the seriousness of it that I. And this is bad, but I. I have a hard time being sincere as a comedian. I have a hard time. So if something serious, I. I always have to laugh a little bit.
- [66:44]
Josh Adam Myers
Are you bad at. You can't handle, like, death and stuff if you're like, you know, funerals or.
- [66:48]
Maria Bamford
I have. Well, I. I have a couple of jokes about my mom's death that I saw in person. My mom, the hospice. When people. Sometimes people die, all the energy. And a shaft of light comes in through the window.
- [67:03]
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
- [67:04]
Maria Bamford
And then a bird hovers outside the window. And that bird is your loved one. But what I saw was. Anybody? No. Okay.
- [67:29]
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, my God. I've been watching that show, that show on hbo. Max, the Pit. And that is exactly how one of the characters died. I was like, oh, my God. Did you audition for that? Phenomenal.
- [67:41]
Maria Bamford
Death is unattractive. That you get to see. They see all the way to your back tooth.
- [67:45]
Josh Adam Myers
So, yeah, you know, it's funny when my dad. My dad had the stroke and. And they were like, all right, so it's. We're going to take him off the. The breathing tube and the feeding tube, whatever it was, and then he'll pass. And it was like, in the TV show that I'm watching, the Pit, the family, they do that, but then they just sit by the guy's side while he, you know, for the night or whatever, until he passes. Me and my family were like, you call us when he's dead. We're going back to Germantown.
- [68:08]
Maria Bamford
Just.
- [68:08]
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, let us know when he passes. We'll. We'll come back here. Actually, you know what? I don't think we need to come back. You schlep him to Harrisburg. Can you schlep him to Harrisburg? Because we're not coming back. It's the. God's on the street.
- [68:21]
Maria Bamford
My sister wanted to move my dad's body back to our house so we could have a viewing at the house. Guess what? That is illegal to move a body.
- [68:35]
Josh Adam Myers
Isn't that Little Miss Sunshine?
- [68:37]
Maria Bamford
Like, we found a guy. We found a guy.
- [68:40]
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, nice. That guy.
- [68:42]
Maria Bamford
He had a covered back on his truck, and we've loaded him in and out and. Light as a feather, stiff as a board. My feather and.
- [68:58]
Josh Adam Myers
The board.
- [69:03]
Maria Bamford
Scott had to bring my dad's body like a couch through the front door. And so he kept hitting his head or his feet on the sides of the door frame.
- [69:14]
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, God. Fuck off. Moving your dad's like moving a couch. Slow down, slow down. You got it, you got it, you got it. No, no, now turn it around and give it to me sideways. All right. Yeah, turn them around. Turn around, turn around. No, that's hilarious. Listen, I know we got to get you out of here, so let's just do the final questions. I, I, Maria, I, Please come back. I, I can't tell you how much. What a great way to end our year. I know. We have one more to do, like, by the end of it. And we'll do that, you know, coming up. And hopefully that, hopefully. I'm not gonna say the guest name. Barack Obama. No, I'm kidding. Hopefully. Hopefully it lives up to the fun as this one. But I, I mean it. This was what, what a, What a gift to have you on. We, we might have talked about the album for eight seconds, but who gives a. You know what I mean? We now know that you can see Maria Bamford live at 10am @ the Skadoodle Theater in Altadena. And, and if you come, bring money, because she's paying 90 of it cash in, even though she has no. She loves money, but she gives it away. All right, so like we said, I'm gonna promote for you. Check out. When does that, when does the documentary come out? Is it going to be on hbo, you're saying?
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Maria Bamford
Good. And it hasn't yet been picked up as a, you know where it's going to be streamed, so, but it's gonna be at Sundance. So I'm going to.
- [70:42]
Josh Adam Myers
Sundance. I love that. Which is, which is gonna move soon. It's not going to be Sundance anymore. It's going to be, it's gonna be, I think Aspen. Not Aspen. They're moving it. They're moving it somewhere, like Colorado.
- [70:54]
Maria Bamford
Based. Oh, I heard.
- [70:56]
Josh Adam Myers
That. I heard that. So enjoy Sundance? Yeah, no, bummer. Why? I don't know. I think it's cool in Park City.
- [71:04]
Maria Bamford
Okay.
- [71:05]
Josh Adam Myers
But. Jesus. All right, all right, all right. Mitt Romney. All right, all right, all right. But. And also go see, go see Maria on tour. I, I mean it. You know, it's. You've always been one of my favorites to watch. You've always been one of the sweetest people I've ever met. We did a festival together. The first time I got to really hang with you. It was the Come and Take it festival in, in, In Houston, and we were all. We Have a great picture which I'll. Which I'll post on. On. On the gram. Also, did you send Jeremiah? Did you get the picture I sent you? Can you put that up? Oh, yeah, really quickly. We have one minute. We have one minute. She's got to leave in one minute, so go see her. All right, Rapid fire questions while you pull that up. Here we go. Favorite song on this record.
- [71:49]
Maria Bamford
Maria. I want to say Bored. I love.
- [71:53]
Josh Adam Myers
Bored. I love that. Is this a skip record? Is there a song on this you skip, or is this a no skip.
- [71:58]
Maria Bamford
Record? Skip or no skipper. Is.
- [72:02]
Josh Adam Myers
It. Is there a song. Is there anything you don't like on the album? Anything you skipped over, like a song you just didn't really give a about, so you.
- [72:07]
Maria Bamford
Skipped. No, you gotta listen to the whole.
- [72:10]
Josh Adam Myers
Thing. I dig that. Yeah. I don't think this. I think they all go into the next. Some I like more, but nothing. Nothing to the point where I wanted to turn it off. All right, this is going to make you uncomfortable. Can you. To this record. Is this a. Is this a record you would put on and then have intercourse with your hip, hip husband? Who turned you on to this record, by the.
- [72:30]
Maria Bamford
Way? Let me see. I don't know. I. The only thing I'd be worried is that he would lose.
- [72:36]
Josh Adam Myers
Focus. Yes, this is a. It's.
- [72:40]
Maria Bamford
Definitely. And. And he's got some tasks to.
- [72:44]
Josh Adam Myers
Complete. All right. Don't put this on. I don't think you can. Don't. I don't think this is a record you can do, to be honest with you. And. And last but not least, Maria, how would you get someone to listen to this record? What is your elevator pitch to get someone to listen to Raw Power by the.
- [73:03]
Maria Bamford
Stooges. Okay, well, dreams come true. Do you want to hear one. Want to hear. Hear this guy and his. Because he really loved David Bowie and was very exciting for him. So I want to say this is what happens when your dreams come.
- [73:20]
Josh Adam Myers
True. I love that. Well, you got it. Oh, my God, there's me. See that guy right there on the left? That guy on the left. He took the actual shot because you could see Iggy's looking at him. The guy on the left's dead now, I bet. Or at least I hope he is. That dude. That guy's. I've hated that guy my whole life since this picture got developed. But yep, there's Iggy not looking at me giving that guy the perfect picture and me looking like a dildo. Yep, that's it. Maria, thank. I know you got to get out of here. Thank you so much for coming on. This was. This was phenomenal. This really was. Please come back.
- [73:58]
Maria Bamford
Please. Thank you so much for having.
- [74:00]
Josh Adam Myers
Me. What I tell you? What I tell you? The one and only Maria Bamford. Follow her on Instagram at Maria Bamford comedy. Her website is mariabanford.com and check her out on tour and check out that documentary when it comes out. For new music this week, Distro kid brought us call the dogs by the street walking cheetahs. Dig it. It's on the website the500podcast.com next week the birds younger than yesterday. That's how we end of the year. See you then, guys. Bye bye. Just wanna make it go away for nothing Sh A such easy way little doggy is bl Somebody call a dog it's time to clear the h Of all these liars and heavy dealers Somebody call the dog Only phony two face band standards They p for the cameras you want to make it go away People are dead. Maybe the animals are right Come on, let's make them crow. Somebody call the dog it's time to clear the home. Somebody call the dog. All these two big money dealers Somebody call the dog. Call the God sam. Somebody call the dog it's time to clear the h dealers Somebody call the do Somebody call the do Somebody call the dog Somebody call Saunders for the fleece nation on the 500. The 500. And Doug here we have the limu emu in its natural habitat helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds of with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally Doug Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us. Cut the camera. They see us. Only pay for what you need@libertymutual.com Liberty Liberty Liberty Liberty Savings Fairy underwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance Co. Affiliates excludes Massachusetts Next chapter.