137 - The Replacements - Tim - Maura Tierney

Summary

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THE 500 with Josh Adam Meyers

Episode 137: The Replacements – "Tim" (with Maura Tierney)

Original Release: October 22, 2025

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Overview

This episode of The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers focuses on Tim, the 1985 album by The Replacements, #137 on Rolling Stone’s list of Greatest Albums. Emmy and Golden Globe-winning actress Maura Tierney joins Josh to dissect the album’s emotional highs and lows, share stories of fandom and backstage tales, and reflect on how The Replacements’ chaotic, heartfelt music impacted generations—Tierney’s own included.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Importance of "Tim" and The Replacements

• Maura Tierney’s Personal Connection:
  Maura was quick to claim this episode, having spotted "Tim" on the master list. She describes herself as a “huge fan” and reflects on how The Replacements shaped her college-age music taste.

  “I feel very, very grateful. Thank you.” – Maura Tierney, [07:07]

• Why The Replacements Matter:
  Josh notes the band's outsize influence on grunge and alt-rock musicians and their perpetual cult status:

  “The people that love this band…love this band.” – Josh Adam Meyers, [09:59]

• Introduction to the Album:
  Morty Coyle provides background: "Tim" is The Replacements' fourth album and major-label debut, as well as their last with guitarist Bob Stinson, whose departure signaled a change in the band's lineup and sound.
  Album trivia: The Replacements considered calling the record "Let It Bleed" before settling on "Tim" because it “was just a nice name.” [12:29–13:20]

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Maura’s Journey with The Replacements

• Discovering Them in College:
  Raised on classic rock at an all-girls Catholic school, Maura found something more direct and emotionally raw in The Replacements when she got to college.

  “This is speaking to me...it was just so much more emotionally direct to me than any of the stuff I had heard previously.” – Maura Tierney, [08:27]

• Not Just About Lyrics:
  She admits she first responded to the emotional temperature of the music, and sometimes the “melody within chaos” before the lyrics themselves. [07:50, 15:18]

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Track-by-Track Breakdown

“Hold My Life”

• Opening Track:
  Sets the emotional tone: reckless, searching. Maura connects to the warmth and vulnerability in his delivery.

  “I just get excited…there’s an emotionality to it...feels like I know him.” – Maura Tierney, [15:18]

“I’ll Buy”

• On Big First Purchases:
  Maura recalls celebrating her first success with a brown suede Agnes B duster.

  “I thought I was like the [expletive] in that thing…” – Maura Tierney, [17:08]

"Kiss Me on the Bus"

• Joyous, Vulnerable:
  About that tentative, public moment of pride and affection.

  “There’s a pride...to be able to do that.” – Maura Tierney, [19:10]
  Maura also recounts seeing Westerberg live doing a “burlesque” version of “Waitress in the Sky.” [20:00]

SNL Performance Anecdote

• The Replacements' infamous 1986 SNL performance is discussed: drunken clothing swaps, mistakes, and their resulting ban from the show.

  “They got so wasted, they switched all their clothing…cursing…a little unintentional nudity...” – Josh Adam Meyers, [20:58]

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Artist Life & Celebrity

• Navigating Fame:
  Maura keeps grounded with old friends and close family, avoiding Hollywood’s pitfalls.

  “I have a pretty tight group of friends…That’s who I hang out with mostly…” – Maura Tierney, [22:10]

• Public Recognition:
  The seismic shift came after joining ER – “the next day, people were recognizing me in the street…it was fun.” [24:28]
  But, “Please don’t interrupt me while I’m eating the food, because that’s just embarrassing.” [25:44]

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More Song Highlights & Life Stories

“Waitress in the Sky”

• Backstory:
  A tongue-in-cheek song for Paul’s flight-attendant sister, now culturally unwriteable, and the band’s legendary aversion to music videos.

  “You could never write that song today, ever.” – Maura Tierney, [27:21]

• Maura saw The Replacements at the 9:30 Club in D.C. when her friends opened for them:

  “I saw this tour...That’s crazy, right?” – Maura Tierney, [28:00]

“Swingin Party”

• Haunting, country-tinged, about “shared, quiet despair.” Maura notes underlying bossa or samba influences, and the “melancholy” beauty.

  “There’s almost like a samba type…” – Maura Tierney, [34:35] “It’s a pretty song…it satisfies so many needs.” – Maura Tierney, [35:37]

“Bastards of Young”

• The album’s anthem of youthful dissatisfaction—Josh and Maura both single it out:

  “Perfection—God, what a mess...on the ladder of success, you take one step and miss the whole first rung.” – Josh Adam Meyers, [39:54]
  “It doesn’t really ever stop, in a way, that feeling…” – Maura Tierney, [40:29]

• Tierney is blown away to learn that the chorus lyric is actually "Wait on the sons of no one" not "We are the sons of no one."

  “First of all, I have goosebumps. How could I be listening to that song for my whole entire life...” – Maura Tierney, [45:04]

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Personal & Professional Reflections

• Youthful Rebellion:
  Maura didn’t act out until college, partly because as the daughter of a Boston city councilman, her dad’s reputation was always at stake. [45:42]

• Life on Set with Jim Carrey:
  Shooting Liar Liar meant “35 takes” per scene, as Carrey refined his comedic improv—exhausting but rewarding.

  “He would just keep doing the take and keep doing the take...” – Maura Tierney, [48:13]

• Process as an Actor:
  Sometimes wants to be “off-kilter” before going out on stage, and describes ritualistically running lines. She tries not to put on her cop uniform (Law & Order) until she’s on set, to keep it fresh. [62:48, 64:12]

• Comedy & Cast Stories:
  On NewsRadio’s cast: “Everyone was really funny” – but Maura reveals a personal favorite moment: Paul Westerberg (of The Replacements) had a mini lovefest with Dave Foley that left her “very jealous.” [54:05]
  About Joe Rogan: “I'm not surprised Joe Rogan is the Joe Rogan Experience right now.” [56:10]

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Remaining Album Tracks ~ Favorite Moments

“Left of the Dial”

• A love letter to college radio and missed connections. Not Maura’s most nostalgic pick but learns more about its backstory during the conversation. [53:18]
• Maura discusses how she balances indie/experimental projects (notably with downtown NYC’s Wooster Group) and more commercial roles. [57:12]

“Little Mascara”

• Delicate, about small rituals and the things we hide behind. Morty and Maura dig into the meaning of “ebullient.” [59:53–61:32]

“Here Comes a Regular”

• Album closer—recorded solo by Paul, a sad, beautiful barroom ballad Maura describes as “almost the inverse of ‘Unsatisfied’—the beautiful version.”

  “There’s shame in it. There’s comfort in it. And the song is just so, again, pretty…Sounds like this kind of yearning.” – Maura Tierney, [66:45]

• Morty shares that the original lyric sheet (displayed at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame) reveals even more verses that spotlight the song’s poignancy and Paul’s writing process.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “The thing about this album: it’s all over, it satisfies so many needs.” – Maura Tierney, [35:39]
• “They got so wasted [on SNL]…so half of his ass is sticking out…they trashed their hotel room…they were understandably banned for years.” – Josh Adam Meyers, [20:58]
• (“Wait on the sons of no one”—on misheard lyrics) “So much better.” – Maura Tierney, [45:22]
• [On public recognition after ER] “The next day, people were recognizing me in the street. It was crazy. It was like that. But it was fun…” – Maura Tierney, [24:28]
• [On comedy] “I’m usually the straight guy. And that’s not a bad thing… No, it’s not.” – Maura Tierney, [52:24]
• [On process] “I want to be as off kilter as I can before I go out there…” – Maura Tierney, [62:48]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction & Backstory on "Tim" – [02:47–13:20]

• Maura Tierney on Her Replacements Fandom – [07:07–10:03]

• Track by Track Discussion (High Points)

  • "Hold My Life" – [14:45–15:54]
  • "Kiss Me on the Bus"/SNL Story – [18:53–21:56]
  • "Waitress in the Sky" (touring & family anecdotes) – [27:21–30:25]
  • "Bastards of Young" (anthem, lyric mishearing) – [39:49–45:22]
  • "Here Comes a Regular"/Lyric Sheet Discussion – [66:07–77:09]

• Maura on Fame, Hollywood, and Acting Process – [21:56–26:44], [62:48–64:34]

• Comedic/TV Career (NewsRadio, Joe Rogan) – [54:04–56:10]

• On Liar Liar and Working with Jim Carrey – [47:38–51:11]

• Listener Q&A, Recommendations, Classics vs. Streaming Roles – [68:02–70:14]

• Rapid Fire Closing Questions – [78:13–79:50]

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Final Thoughts & Recommendations

• Favorite Song:
  “Here Comes a Regular.” – Maura Tierney, [78:40]

• Skip Status:
  Not a “no-skip” album; a few tracks less essential for both. [78:48]

• Elevator Pitch for "Tim":
  Josh: “All the music that I love growing up has been influenced because of this record.” [79:50–80:09]

• Reflections:
  Maura underscores how The Replacements are woven into the fabric of her musical identity—and how universal their emotional directness remains.

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Guest & Host Plugs

• Follow Maura Tierney:
  IG: @mauratini
  Currently on Law & Order (NBC).
  Active in NYC theater, including The Wooster Group; recently in The Iron Claw and upcoming Twisters (brief role).

• Host: Josh Adam Meyers
  Web: joshadammeyers.com
  IG: @joshadammeyers
  Podcast IG: @the500podcast

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The Last Word

Maura and Josh celebrate "Tim" as both cultural artifact and deeply personal record—one that can still speak directly to the lonely, searching parts of every generation. The talk closes with shared laughs, a promise to bring Maura back for a Kate Bush or PJ Harvey episode, and the reminder that all of music is a lineage—one that "Tim" and The Replacements profoundly shaped.

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Transcript

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[Morty Coyle]

The 500 the 500 JM been walking us down through that 2012 edition so it ain't nothing to you. Hundreds more to go and in need of a friend. The King of Peaceful angelo. Talking the 500 until the end Talking the 500 until the end with my man JL on the 500 Talking the.

[Maura Tierney]

500.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That is Bastards of Young. It's by the replacements from the 1985 record Tim. It's also number 137 out of 500 on the 500 with Josh Adam Mayans. We are going through all of these albums on The Rolling Stone magazine 500 Greatest Albums list and we're almost done. We're almost done. We're almost done. We're almost done. Hey everybody. Police, army, baddies. It has been a wild week. I want to thank everybody that came out to see me in Albuquerque, New Mexico at Quesadas. This week I'll be at the Comedy Cabin in Jacksonville. We know not Jacksonville, Janesville, Jansville, Jansville, Wisconsin. Then I'm gonna be in Arizona, followed by New Orleans, Followed by Baltimore, MD. Big Show November 22nd at the Horseshoe Casino and then December is filling up. All the dates are on my website. Josh Adam Myers.com and go to OSH Adam Myers on all social media to look for updates. It's gonna be a wild ride. So let's make it count, baby cakes. Are you watching the podcast? Not just listening because you can watch it on YouTube. YouTube.com backslash the 500 podcast also just go to the Patreon Shishibe shishib to the Patreon patreon.com 500podcast. It is worth it. You get merch, you become part of the fleece army. I give you a ranking. You can ask the guest questions. Always fun, always great. Patreon.com backslash the 500 podcast all right, our main man, Morty Coyle, he is amazing. We love him. You love him. And he is going to be working on the Wild Honey foundation, his band all day. Sucker. They're doing a song along with Jackson Brown, Dwight Yocum, Fountains of Wayne Jordan, Zevon, Jorge Calderon and many others including Lee Sklar, Rick Morata and other immediate family players who actually played with Warren Zevon are playing Friday, October 24th at the United Theater, formerly the Ace Theater in downtown la. It's almost sold out. It's a charity event for autism research and Mesothelioma. You might know Mesothelioma from the class action lawsuit that's being promoted every night on most television. Over 30 Z Bond songs and a fantastic night with a silent auction and a meet and greet. Go to. Tickets are [e-mail] that's AXS.com Go support Morty if you're in LA. It's a great cause. We love them. You love them. And now the Replacements. This is a band that I've been digging on since we got to Let It Be. I've been to the Replacements Let It Be house and this is a record. I actually really like the next record a lot, but this one is really, really cool and for this people were fighting over it. Who wants to do the episode? And we got a cadoozy. The one and only Maura Tierney. She, if you don't know her, has been in so many different movies. We're going to talk all about it. Liar Liar. She's been on ER right now she's on on Law and Order. I mean she's killing the game. She is so cool. We had such a great time and she is a huge fan of the Replacements. So dig this raid review and most importantly, subscribe to the 500 listen free on all platforms or anywhere you get your pods. Follow me at Josh Adam Myers on all social media. Follow the podcast at the 500 podcast. Email the [e-mail] Follow the Facebook group Run by Crazy Evan. And for all things 500, go to the website thevivadabaga.com. all right, y', all not left to say, but here we go with 137 out of 500 with the replacements team. And I don't know if you know this, but I want you to know really, honestly, how lucky you are. This album was fought over and fought over by so many people. When we first started doing this podcast about, like, who wanted to do so, many people reached out and were like, please, can I do the Replacements, Tim, please? And I was like, that's what I did.

[Maura Tierney]

I saw a list, and this was down the line, oh, look, that's a song. And I was like, that's the one I want to do. And so I feel very, very grateful. Thank you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I didn't realize you were so hip hop. I knew you were cool, but, like, you're hip. Nice.

[Maura Tierney]

No, but their placements were a huge thing for me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It was a band that, like. For a lot of people I think of, like, you know, that are, like. Because we. You know, especially all the artists that I grew up with in the grunge era, I can tell that this is the band that they, like, loved. And how could you not? There was something chaotic. There was something beautiful. There was something that you never knew what they were gonna do, but they.

[Maura Tierney]

It was a melody within chaos. There was all the things. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So when did you get into them?

[Maura Tierney]

College. Because. And I've been thinking about this because I don't want to mean it to any kind of disrespect to classic rock or whatever, but I. I went to, like, all girls Catholic school, and the girls I was at school with were listening to, like, Van Halen. I saw Blue Oyster Cult. So there's nothing wrong with these bands.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Nothing wrong with them, especially just the original Van Halen veg Van Hager, a little different Van Shiron.

[Maura Tierney]

I saw Van Halen, but I got into college and I started hearing music, and I was like, oh, this is music. This is speaking to me. This kind of. It was just so much more emotionally direct to me than. Than any of this stuff that I had heard previously.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

And so does that make sense? Like, I heard Unsatisfied, and I was like, oh, I get it. This is music, you know?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, there's a. I think there's a moment in our life where it's like we're. We're listening to what our parents gave us, and then it's. We start growing into our own appreciation for. For you know, or for finding music and it's worth what's on the radio. And then you see that shift where it's just like, oh, this. This feels like this was made for me.

[Maura Tierney]

Me. Right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So this completely spoke to you the first time you heard it. Was this the first record that you. That. That you heard by them or did you start right at the beginning?

[Maura Tierney]

No, well, I don't think I started right at the beginning. I started at.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Let It Be. Yeah, Let It Be, which we already know.

[Maura Tierney]

I think there was two more before that, or one or two more, but that's the one I heard first.

[Josh Adam Myers]

They were. That was actually the record we did. We did what? How long ago, Jared, did we do that? A year ago, Years ago with David Cross. And what's so cool is that everybody that asked to do this record or asked to do the Replacements are people that were like, all these people. Cool, man. Like, we didn't cool. They're all cool. Like. Like literally, like, this is. It's just. It's funny that the people that love this band. Love this band.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know. Sorry. So before we get in, this is diving the records. We have so much to talk about.

[Morty Coyle]

Okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And. But then we'll do a little spiel right here. So this is the fourth album and the major label debut on Sire Records by Minneapolis, Minnesota, quartet lovingly nicknamed the Mats by their fan, by the way. If you want to jump in at any time to interject, please feel free.

[Maura Tierney]

Okay, I will do. I never called them the Mats, though. Even though I guess maybe I should have been.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right. Don't worry.

[Maura Tierney]

They were lovingly dubbed that. Yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So as we mentioned in the previous episode, the name was derived from jokingly calling the band the Placemats, which was shortened to the Mats by true fans. It also. This would also be their last record with the original lead guitarist, Bob Stinson, the older brother of bassist Tommy Stinson. Bob's ongoing substance abuse had made him unreliable and difficult, and he was fired in 86 before the follow up record, Pleased To Meet Me, which is insane, knowing the rest of the band. Like, you have to be a mess if you're getting fired from the Mats. Like they party.

[Maura Tierney]

I was gonna say rip. Oh, yeah, rip. And you know that the next record, it said on it. And this is so geeking out. It doesn't say the band, it says people who played on this record are. And then it's just a list of the people who played on the record because it wasn't really the original band. Anymore.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. So along with the Stinson Brothers and drummer Chris Mars, main singer, songwriter and rhythm guitarist Paul Westerberg was expected. And hoping to build on the burgeoning critical and slight financial success of 1984's Let It Be, this album was going to be the one to break them out of the punk bar rooms and regional circuits and reach the same or similar mainstream success that was happening for college darling contemporaries like REM Husker do who I wore my shirt today to try to be on brand with Minnesota bands the Minute man and X after some aborted sessions with one of their heroes, former big star and Boktops frontman Alex Chilton. The album ended up being produced by Tommy Erdelli, who himself was a member and co producer of a breakthrough punk band when he was known as drummer Tommy Ramone of the Ramones. The perplexing album cover was designed by world famous artist Robert Longo, who was hired by the record label. And according to Paul, who thought it was shitty, everybody else hated it too. With Paul wondering if Longo even liked it. And if you're wondering about the title of the record after joking around about continuing the theme of the prior record, Snarky swipe at an homage to the Beatles final album, which is the coolest ever that the ball is to name a record Let It Be right. Like. Like it's crazy. It's like they don't give a dude. Which. At final album they intended to call this Let It Bleed after the rolling stones record from 69. However, Paul said they eventually chose Tim. This is just. I love this. When Morty was telling me about this, Paul said they eventually chose Tim because he thought it was just a nice name. So they come up with album coverage. He's like, what about Tim? Like, yeah, that's a nice name. All right. Let's name it that. Like, that's so cool. Just to be so. Like, this is a. It's a big record for us. Who gives a. Just name it Tim. It's a nice name. We can name our dog that. And in. In 2023, a box set reissue was released called Tim Let It Bleed Edition, which contained a live concert, demos, alternate takes, a new remix and remastered version of the album by producer Ed Staceum, a close friend of ER Deli who passed away in 2014. These new mixes provide clarity which reveal many melodic, lyrical and musical components which had been hidden in the former mixes. Murkiness. I urge fans and everyone to give it a listen. Have you been able to check that out?

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, which is so weird because I don't usually. I like that janky, you know, kind of distortion that comes with, you know, that's what I thought I liked. And then in preparation for this, everyone's talking about it and I listened to it and I was like, oh, it is really good. It's really, really good. You can hear it's everything. I like them both, but I was surprised how much I loved the. The remix.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's almost like listening to speaking of Let It Be, like the Phil Spector Wallace sound version and then the reproduced one they put out years later, which it might just be a little different, but it's still. Still great music. But it's still, like, could be clear, could be murky or whatever, but it's just. It's really beautiful. And I think when I was listening, when I listened to this record the first time, and then I listened to Tim Lit A Bleed Edition, it was. It's. They're both great, just like you said. Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

Yep.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right. So do you want to dive into the record and do some songs and talk about music, life and art?

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right, let's do this. All right. So the album opens up with Hold My Life. The album opening sounding like Paul was caught unprepared, which is a pretty apt metaphor for a song about recklessness and survival, as evidenced by one of the lyrics. This is so great Time for decision to be made Crack it in this Crack up in the sun or lose it in the shade Thoughts on this song. Thoughts on the opener. Like, what do you love about it? Like, what does it make you feel like?

[Maura Tierney]

I mean, I think, like, all the songs, when you hear his voice, I just get excited. And I don't automatically listen to the lyrics then I do. But I like the opening of that album is. Well, because it's sort of warm, you know what I mean? In terms of. There's a emotionality to it, like you said, that is not always pleasant and front and center in their songs. So it just feels like. I don't know, it feels like I know him. I get it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't think. I don't think anybody writes or not anybody, but he. He. What I love about Paul is that he just knows how to write about being a young person dealing with life and. And it's just. He says it so perfectly in so many songs, especially one we're going to get to later, one of the biggest songs on the record.

[Maura Tierney]

But I'm curious to see which one you say that is.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, it's basically young. It's well, you want me to say. Oh, you want me to wait? Oh, damn it.

[Maura Tierney]

You mean it's not.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Here comes a regular dude. I I, we'll get to bastard Young. But it's just that greatest opening like paragraph of words about being a young person. But we'll get to that.

[Maura Tierney]

That's true.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's true.

[Maura Tierney]

That's true.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Second song, I'll Buy, and this is a pretty straightforward chugging song about the bargaining in a relationship. Let's ask something fun and light and easy that we've asked a lot of our guests before we ask that question. Like, thoughts on I'll buy or.

[Maura Tierney]

It'S not. I mean, I love the whole album, but if I was, you know, I'm listening to it. It's not like it's not my top five. But, you know, as a presented as a whole, the whole album's great. But what's your fun question?

[Josh Adam Myers]

The question is, what was your first really big and maybe ridiculous thing that you bought when you had your first big break in payday? We always love to find out what everybody got with that first check.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, I bought a suit. Was it a suit? No, it was a brown suede duster. Leather, like brown suede. Agnes B. Leather jacket duster. I do. I thought I was like the in that thing and I bought it and I probably wasn't even that much money, but to me I was like, it was awesome to be able to go buy that thing that I wanted to buy. It was very rock and roll, actually.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you still wear it? It's cool.

[Maura Tierney]

No, it's totally out of date. If I were now, I would look probably homeless. But I do still have it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're holding on to it just in case it comes back in style because everything seems to come around. Yeah, it does. How much was the jacket you remember?

[Maura Tierney]

I think it was like $750 or $800. It was a lot of money to me in that time. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Jim Jeffries, the comedian, once said that he was at this like John Varvatos thing and, and Ringo Star is like walking around and Jim picks up this jacket. He's like, this is horrible. And then he puts it on. And then Ringo goes, he's like, you look good in that, mate. And then he's like, well, I have to buy it now. And it was 6,000 said it. Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

If a beetle tells $6,000.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, if a beetle tells you look good in something, you gotta buy it, you know?

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And it's horrible. He's worn it before and shown it to me. And it's. It's not.

[Maura Tierney]

And it's ugly.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's a little. It's a little. It's terrible. Yeah. I would never wear it. All right, let's move on. Kiss me on the bus.

[Maura Tierney]

Yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

As many Westerberg songs do, this one perfectly catches an awkward youthful memory of vulnerability, Specifically that moment when you have a triumphant public display of affection. Thoughts on this song and you know, how do you feel about it? What does it do to you?

[Maura Tierney]

I love this song. I know. It's like a little more in the poppy end of stuff that. That the Replacements do. I love it. And I think when you're talking about capturing like, that new feeling of a relationship, there's something tentative about it and so exciting and I In energetic, you know, like, there's a triumph in. To being able to do that. Like, there's a pride, you know, to get someone to do that. And I saw. Am I making sense?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're making sense, yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

It's like a brilliant. Is that how you say the word? Celebrate?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm horrible with words. So he's the wrong person to ask. I'm the wrong boarding. My writer would be the one to ask.

[Maura Tierney]

Joyous. I saw Westerberg at the Whiskey a Go go whenever that 14 songs came out, his first solo album. And he did this like crazy, almost like burlesque, like stripper version of Waitress. Oh, no, it was Waitress in the Sky. Sorry, I'm jumping ahead. Save that Whiskey story.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Save that story. Yeah. Because I wanted to talk about. I want to talk about awkward public displays. Second single was also the second song that the Mats did on SNL in 86 when Harry Dean Stanton hosted. Have you seen this performance?

[Maura Tierney]

I don't know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's. You watch it on YouTube, but they do not replay it because it's. This is when we talk about why the band is cool. I mean, I find this cool. I find anything.

[Maura Tierney]

Refresh my memory.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, after they perform Bastards of Young, during the first half of the show, the Mats got so wasted. They got so wasted, they switched all their clothing with each other, along with screwing up the song's intro and having to start over on live TV due to cursing. A little unintentional nudity by Bob because he's wearing somebody else's pants, so half of his ass is sticking out. They trashed their hotel room. They were understandably banned for years, which I always find is like a badge of honor. Like Sinead's band Rage against the Machine was Banned. Elvis Costello got banned. I mean, Paul was eventually allowed to return. If you've never seen it, you're saying.

[Maura Tierney]

I can see this or I can't see.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, no, it's on YouTube. They just don't play it in syndication anymore. Oh, it's amazing, Jerry. If you want to look it up, we'll play it later in the show. It's definitely an interesting clip. Let me ask you this, though. As fame and celebrity and notoriety come with a territory of success, how do you. Have you navigated those treacherous waters?

[Maura Tierney]

Wait, say it again. What do you mean?

[Josh Adam Myers]

So as. So as fame and celebrity and notoriety come with the territory of success, like, how. How do you navigate. Like, how do you get. How do you navigate, like, Hollywood and the treacherous waters?

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, I mean, I have a pretty tight group of friends that I've known for a long time. Like, a long time. Like as old as this album.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

So I don't. I also have wonderful friends that I've made in the business, but I feel like my. My people. My people. That's who I hang out with mostly. And so, you know, I'm not. Press doesn't hound me. I'm not that kind of actor. They never really have, so I don't. I'm pretty lucky. And that I usually. I'm just kind of left alone and I get to do my work, and I have, like, really good old friends, so I think that's helpful to just be in my. And my. I'm close to my family, too, so I don't feel like at the, you know, whim of celebrity or show business.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you live in Hollywood or did you have. You moved out? I mean, you get your certain point in your career. It's like you really don't have to be there as much because no one.

[Maura Tierney]

Does now, but because of COVID But I live in New York right now.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, wait, you're in New York City?

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

At the moment, I'm in Gramercy. Oh, we could have done this live. Yeah, we could have done this live. I could have read in the studio. I could be hanging out with. Come on.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah. Well, in la, when I'm in la, I live in Venice.

[Morty Coyle]

Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

But I'm here in New York right now.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I love that you love. And you're. You feel more at home here.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, you can tell.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't know. I both. I went to college here, so I've been here for long, long on and off.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But I live 20 years.

[Morty Coyle]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, that's great.

[Maura Tierney]

I didn't graduate.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You didn't?

[Maura Tierney]

No, but I did go there.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think I'm pretty good.

[Maura Tierney]

You're doing all right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You can take it. You're gonna finish it later. Who cares? When did you first realize that you. Was there a point, though, when you started, you know, like, when did you first realize that you were. That you existed in the public's version of you and you would be over scrutinized for, like, just existing? Was there any moment where it was like, maybe it was, you know, as you're starting off as an actor in the first role, that made you go like, whoa, like, this is.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, for sure. Because I, you know, News Radio is a show I loved so.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Good.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah. And. But it was, you know, we weren't. We didn't get that great ratings. You know, we were a culty type thing, but they moved us around all the time, so we didn't, you know, do well. We were critically acclaimed. And then the next show I did was er, and I swear the night after my first episode of VR aired, because at that time, like 35 million people were watching Destiny. A different time. The next day, people were recognizing me in the street. It was crazy. It was like that. But it was fun, you know, it was fun for me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's always great when, you know, you get recognized, you get. People compliment you for your work. But I, you know, and I know it's like you get to a certain point where it can become, you know, too much. And I always say, it's like, you know, when you get. When you go up to meet somebody, it's like, do it at the right time or you don't even.

[Maura Tierney]

Like the time. I don't like it is. Someone did it to me the other day. I. She said, I hate to. I don't want to interrupt you while you're eating.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But you are.

[Maura Tierney]

But no, if I'm actually eating, like, with food in my mouth.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

Please don't interrupt me while I'm eating the food, because that's just embarrassing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And you're such a nice person. Even like. Like on. On screen, all one of. Just all the characters you play are always very sweet and just you. So you have such good energy. So I feel like that's why people feel comfortable probably to come up and approach you. But then it's like, it's. That's why I love, like, when I'm out with Bill Burr, who is known for being, like, a jerk, and people are like, I hate to bother you. And he goes, you are. And Then he takes the picture with him, but he gets to bust chops at the beginning. It would be odd if you came back with like, really? I hate to bother you when you're eating. Well, I've got a buffalo wing in my hand. That's the thing.

[Maura Tierney]

Especially if it's a buffalo wing. It's like, oh, God, can I privately have some shitty food?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. I love it. I love it. All right, dose of thunder, here we go. We're getting into the thick of it. This is CO Wright, co write with Tommy and Chris and just understandably feels like they wanted to have a sloppy rocking out moment on an album with so many career highlights. This is probably. It's not a bad song, but this is one of the weaker and obvious backslides into their typically shambolic older stuff.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, well, to me it sounds like a cover. Like I was like, is this a cover of another song? When I remember hearing it, because I just. It's just. Yeah, it's a little bit of a diversion and I thought, are they covering something else?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah, it's not a bad song. I mean, it's. No, it's just. It's just. Yeah, it's. It's one. I'm not like, I. I heard it a couple times. I'm like, all right. But now to the thick waitress in the sky. Is this the one that we were talking about earlier that. That we. Yeah. Teased a little bit.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah. Well, it's hilarious. First.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It really is. Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

And you could never write that song today, ever. It's. And. And there's. The thing is, I saw Westerberg at the Whiskey and he did this version of it that was almost like. Like I said, like a burlesque. He re. Orchestra. He re orchestrated the whole song and it was so fucking funny. I won't really forget it. That was a. I saw the Replacements first of all in. When did this record come out?

[Josh Adam Myers]

85. 6 or 85. Okay, 85. September.

[Maura Tierney]

I saw this tour because I had. My friends were in a band called the Historians and they opened up for the replacements in Washington D.C. so like, that's crazy. I. I saw this. Don't you think?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

Really aging myself.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, I mean, it's. Dude, it's like. That's. That's one. That's cool that you work. Like I said, you are cool if you're going to see them. And you know, especially my friends are.

[Maura Tierney]

Opening and so we all went to D.C. i was at NYU, so that's great. And then I saw that Westbrook show was great, too.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right. Being that I'm from Washington, D.C. and so is Jeremiah. Where. What was the venue? Do you remember the venue?

[Maura Tierney]

I just asked my friend, is it 9:30 Club? Yeah.

[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

Hold on.

[Maura Tierney]

9:30Pm or something like that?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, it's 9:30 Club.

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I. This is. This is the club that I've seen. Me and him used to go to concerts. I mean, I've probably seen hundreds of shows there. And then I got. Then I sold it out. I performed there and sold it out. And it's.

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, that's so gratifying.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, you get it. You get it. It's like. Because there's.

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[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, we. We always. We have so many, like, losses, and we always forget to hold on to our wins. And if you would have told me that one day, I would have sold venue that I've watched Radiohead and Old Dirty Bastard and so many incredible bands. We were very lucky to have that. And that the second you said you saw them in DC, I was like, it was either 9:30 club or the Black Cat. Everything else. Because they're not playing the Warner Theater, I'll tell you that much. Nothing against them, but they're not playing the Lincoln Center.

[Maura Tierney]

Congratulations on that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Thank you. Oh, thank you.

[Maura Tierney]

It's a huge thing. I should be proud.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right. I am. And it's. And it's. You know, it's. That's what's great. But also, I think I'm. This is what's cool about life, is just being able to sit here and talk to you about this cool record. So they're all wins. If every day feels like Christmas, it's a great life. Famously, when the head of Warner Brothers, their record labels. Well, hold on. I forgot this. So this is a tender satire about Paul's sister, who was a flight attendant at the time. While this may seem overly. It is. While this may seem overly misogynistic by today's standards, just like you said, remember that when the match first started, Paul wasn't getting coffee. Also, no, please go. It was also a maintenance engineer, which he clarifies in the song, had previously been been called a janitor. It's more about how the job titles don't change much. Much of what the actual occupation is famous.

[Maura Tierney]

He's not wrong.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, he's not. Famously so. Famously, when the head of Warner Brothers, the record label's owner, told them that the reluctance to make music videos wasn' going to stand in the way of them making one, Paul Said, tell you what, you get us on Hee Haw, and I'll lip sync to Waitress in the Sky. This such a cool dude. Speaking of. They just.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, like the show. He.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like the show. Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't know. This is fun.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I love it. All right. Speaking of job.

[Morty Coyle]

Yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, you go ahead, finish your thought.

[Maura Tierney]

What about that video, and it was just like, someone's sneakers.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, it's like. It's. It's.

[Maura Tierney]

I mean, your video. It's just like someone's foot tapping in.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Front of a. Morty was telling me we go over this, like, we go through the episode before we do this. And he started telling me about something. No, it's fine. He started telling me about some of their music videos, and they're just like. It's just. It's ridiculous.

[Maura Tierney]

Like, everywhere you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, it's 100. I want to. Speaking of jobs, did you ever have any notable or crappy ones before you became a working actor?

[Maura Tierney]

Sure, I did. I mean, I've had. I. I don't know. It's not that bad. I like to work. I worked in a deli when I was in high school for four years, and I smelled like pickles. The whole. My whole high school thing, maybe that's why I didn't have a boyfriend. I was a waitress in college. I loved it. I don't. I like to work, so I haven't. I haven't had any truly world crappy jobs.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really? How lucky.

[Maura Tierney]

I know. I mean, it's not like, you know, being a waitress isn't always fun, but it's. It's. I was pretty good waitress. Was all right. It was all right. It's a good jukebox in the place.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Was it like Jack the Rivers? Oh, really? And this was where. This was in New York or this was.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, it's St. Mark's Bowery.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, wow.

[Maura Tierney]

Doesn't exist anymore.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I. I used to wait tables in Washington, D.C. area. And then I started in, which I just was terrible at. I couldn't deal with the LA people. I feel like there's. There's just being a waiter in New York. It can be because New York people are so fun. The real New Yorkers. But, you know, it's. It also, you have the. Like. Everything changed once I moved out here. It's like my. It just. I just. I have no tolerance for anything. So if. Even if you were probably. You know what I mean?

[Maura Tierney]

It's like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's a faster place. So you're just like, lady, you got.

[Maura Tierney]

I know, but I'm I'm becoming that person on the street. Like it's a sidewalk. Like, I'm a. Like that. Because there's so many tourists waiting in line for pizza or a donut or some Instagram.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And I'm like, what's the longest you've ever waited in line for food? I don't exactly.

[Maura Tierney]

I'm sorry.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, exactly. We don't wait. We don't wait.

[Maura Tierney]

I do not.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't want to turn into Soviet Russia. Okay. Like, just to get. Just to get a pop up Cersei's pizza.

[Maura Tierney]

It's. I'm gonna say that to the line next time.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's what it is. Dude. You're talking to an old Russian. They're like, dude, I used to wait four hours for rye bread. Don't even get me started about ciabatta.

[Maura Tierney]

I say snarky things. Like, sometimes I'll be walking by the line. I'll just go, you know, you're gonna be in this line for two hours. Like just a. Just a.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Just. Yeah. You know what?

[Maura Tierney]

But I do love New York.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Of course. But it's. But there it's. I think it's. But I don't know. They were doing. They weren't doing this years ago. They weren't waiting in line for food years ago.

[Maura Tierney]

It's interesting.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We do just. Yeah, it's for Instagram. It's like, you know, that's what sucks is when one influencer posts something that you really like and then it just blows up. And now you can't get any donuts at Snk on. On Wilshire. You're like, all right, dude. All right. Swinging party.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

This stirring and haunting country tinged ballad is seemingly about our shared individual, quiet inner despair. Like, it's a social event. Track six. We're in the thick of the record now. Thoughts on this? What do you got? What do you love?

[Maura Tierney]

I love. And here's the thing. I am not a musician. And you said country tinged, and I feel like there's almost like a samba type. It's. Is. Well, how does the samba go? Like, do you have.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I wish I. I wish I knew. Into the official samba vibe. I know it's. Were you talking like, girl.

[Maura Tierney]

Maybe that's a samba? And I'm wrong.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's awesome. As I was doing it, but it's close enough. There's like a basa samba. It's all very. It's all on brand.

[Maura Tierney]

I. I know this song is very melancholy to me. Like, again, as you said, it's sort of about not understanding kind of where you're trying to go, but not necessarily knowing where you are. Right. Yeah, I would say. But it's also just so pretty.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, it really is pretty.

[Maura Tierney]

You know, it's just a pretty song.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It is a pretty song.

[Maura Tierney]

That's the thing about this album. It's all over. It satisfies so many needs.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It really does. And I. And I think a good. A better way to say it just has like a Burt Bacharach vibe.

[Maura Tierney]

There you go. Okay. That's helpful.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's samba.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't know. I don't. That's probably the wrong word I like better.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's. It's apt. Don't worry. To connect this to one of your most popular roles as Helen on five seasons of the Affair, whose husband became a swinger unbeknownst to her via the titular affair. The show became a Golden Globe winner in 2015, and you won for best supporting Actress the following year. Your go. Is your Golden Globe close? Is it here in New York or is it in la or is it in Venice?

[Maura Tierney]

It's in la. It's in Venice.

[Morty Coyle]

Ah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is it heavy?

[Maura Tierney]

No, it's not that heavy, really. It's a regular. It weighs. It feels like what it looks like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay.

[Maura Tierney]

I'm. I'm not ungrateful for it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Of course. Dude. It's.

[Maura Tierney]

Dude.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And Golden Globes are the most fun award show, by the way. Everybody's drunk.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's an all up.

[Maura Tierney]

The Emmys are so long and no drinks. It's like three hours of sitting there and in my case, until you lose, I lose. Which is no fun.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's. Yeah, but at least you get to drink through it then.

[Maura Tierney]

No, no, the go. No, the Emmys. The Emmys. You can't drink.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, the Emmys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? You know which award show, the award show that gets. That has the most amount of alcohol? The Nobel Peace Prize Awards, they are getting tanked. Dude, I wanted to ask you. Yeah. Dude. After a substantial career, including movies, theater, and years as series leads on your previous programs, what was life and your career like the day after the Golden Globes party? Did it. Did it change or, you know.

[Maura Tierney]

A little, because I do think because it was recognized by the Globes, I then got nominated for an Emmy, which was. I think that helped all of that. It fuels itself a little bit. But also, here's the thing. I'm a very shy person. And so I was so extraordinarily nervous and I was Very surprised that I won and I was embarrassed of my speech. So the next day like a lot what I was going through was like that speech sucked and I didn't give myself a lot of time to be happy about it. I was really in your head. No, I was in my head about this speech and that it was bad and I didn't do enough justice to the I went through a lot of that which is really a lot a waste of time. Sure. So the very next day no. Was full of like self lambasting.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Did you write the speech ahead of time? No.

[Maura Tierney]

God no. I was very surprised. I forget what's up against. But yeah. And I'm superstitious.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, but so you freestyle the whole thing.

[Maura Tierney]

I poorly.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It'S like, you know, it just as long did you thank the people you needed to thank?

[Maura Tierney]

I think so. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But if I was somebody passed like.

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, and the time and I was wearing my glass. The whole thing was just like really?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Were you drunk?

[Maura Tierney]

But no, I didn't have a sip before my category.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And then afterwards, just in case.

[Maura Tierney]

And then afterwards.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah. Good, good. All right. All right, let's talk probably I mean this is, this is the first song I ever heard by them. I love this one to death. This is probably my favorite song on this record or maybe buy them I mean then some stuff on, on some of the others. I love Alex Sheldon but Bastards of young. Yep. If unsatisfied from the previous album Centralized Paul's and his generation state of mind sliding into the mind of 80s this is the Matt's rallying cry anthem of dissatisfaction and desire to be heard, to belong, to be recognized A brotherhood of the isolated. I mean go ahead.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't know what else to say. That's a perfect, perfect summation of that song.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I, I, I mean this sincerely. It's, it's like because I'm much like you where it's like I might just hear the song but I don't, I don't read the lyrics, I don't hear the lyrics. I just hear like the phonetic and I'm listening to it. But this, this first time I heard this, I just heard that opening line and it's just Perfection of God. What a mess. On the ladder of success you take one step and miss the whole first rung. Yeah, I, I mean that's, it's almost, it's like how can you not like identify with that as a young kid? You know, especially I feel like even now, more now I was gonna say.

[Maura Tierney]

It doesn't really Ever stop.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Ever.

[Maura Tierney]

In a way of, of that. Well, it does. I mean that's youthful, but that sentiment of like I'm taking one step and I missed the whole first run. It's like, like, damn, I'm trying, you know, but it's exuberant.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. And this is Paul as frustrated as it is very. He continues to sum up the tail end of his baby boomers generations place on the timeline with the lines the ones love us best are the ones will lay to rest and visit the graves on holidays. At best.

[Maura Tierney]

At best.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Ones. Yeah. The ones love us least are the ones will die to please. Yep. And if, if it's any consolation, I don't begin to understand that.

[Maura Tierney]

Understand them.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. I mean that's just beautiful. And for those of us who were slightly younger and part of the pop culturally rich but annoy beaued Generation X, it's predated the self deprecating cynicism of songs like Creep Loser, Teenage Dirt Bag. I mean this is, this is, this is on all of. You know, it's just, it sums up.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah. References it in another song and very similar lyric. I forget what the song is, but it's something about the same thing, like trying to please the people that love us the least. It's, it's, it goes on and on.

[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, but we misheard. The lyric in the course is not. The misheard lyric in the course is not we are the sons of no one, but rather. Wait on the sons of no one. I don't know if that. Yeah, I know it's weight on the sons of no one. It's not we.

[Maura Tierney]

Okay, first of all, I have goosebumps. How could I be listening to that song for my whole entire life?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Go on Spotify.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't read the lyrics, but I don't do that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I get it. I get it.

[Maura Tierney]

Am I cursing too much?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, please.

[Maura Tierney]

This is.

[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

This is.

[Josh Adam Myers]

This is. This is a. This is a cuss podcast. So dig into it.

[Morty Coyle]

Really?

[Maura Tierney]

That lyric, wait on the sons of no one?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yep.

[Maura Tierney]

Better. So much better.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right. Of course. Of course. Growing up as the oldest daughter of a public figure in Boston. Yes, your dad was in politics. Did you act out to express any youthful frustrations during your rebellious era to establish your independence and autonomy?

[Maura Tierney]

No, that. I didn't do that until I got to college. I. You know, I was. My dad was a politician. He was a city councilman for 18 years. And I was a very good girl. And I was Quite aware of his reputation. You know, other politicians, if they're kid, you couldn't get caught drunk driving or doing things. You know, like, I really respected the him and I didn't want to get in trouble and so I didn't get in trouble. And then I a little bit went crazy in college, but not in high school so much.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, because it's like if you get in trouble, then he gets in trouble because it'll be. Of course. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I was a.

[Maura Tierney]

Good kid anyway, but that was, you know, on our minds, me and my sister.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I don't see you doing any bad. You're. You must think you're vanilla. I mean, you got some. You got some chocolate and strawberry in you too, but. No, but I'm. See, I know you party, but you're. You're undercover. You got to keep it in you had you to grow up in the public eye.

[Maura Tierney]

Yes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So let's dig into Lay It Down, Clown. Here's another sloppy rocker, like Dose of Thunder that just sort of is what it is. I really. We can talk about the song, but I really want to use this song to ask you the question because there's not much about the song. I just want to talk to you about working with Jim Carrey because Liar Liar is one of my favorite movies and a lot of people, I mean, it's. It's him at his height and it's just a perfect movie and it's. I mean, literally, like, how hard was that? You know, he's watching the end of the movie and he's doing. They're showing all the outtakes of him just going off and I mean, like, was it. Were you breaking 90 of the time on set? Was it. Were you able to hold it together? Like, was it just non stop riffing? Because he's. He seems like he's just going off because you're literally getting him one of the biggest stars in the world on. On a huge movie. I mean, what was that like?

[Maura Tierney]

To be quite honest, it was very funny, of course, but it was a lot of work because really, you guys saw the funniest outtakes. Like, it was the first movie where he was sort of playing a human. It was like an acting job for him and he was a father. Like, it wasn't Ace Ventura, it wasn't these other things. The bastard was deeply focused. And we would do like 35 takes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

35, yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

On him because he would just keep doing the take and keep doing the take. And Tom Shadiak, who is directing, I Get it? He wanted to, like, exhaust every idea that he had. But that's a lot of work.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I didn't realize it was like, Cube. It was like working Eyes Wide Shut. I just. It was lighter. I didn't realize you got shot for a year, for 15 months. Paid off.

[Maura Tierney]

But you guys saw the funniest of that.

[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

That.

[Maura Tierney]

But, like, you know, it was a lot to have him go through all those machinations, and he's. Was hilarious. I think he's a little more serious now, but it was. It was a lot of. It was a lot of work.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. Did you not be a downer? No, you're not being. But did you have to change your, like, acting approach with working with him? Was it. Was it easy? Was it hard? Or did you just, you know.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, you did. Because if there was going to be so, so much work in the scene with your scene partner, you got to learn to hold a little bit back, because if there's. If you're going to repeat it that many times. For me, that's not how I work. My first few takes are usually the best and most genuine. Genuine. So working like that, I had to realize, you know what? I might have to just. I don't want to say phone it in, but reserve something for myself for when the camera turns around so that I'm not bored with what I'm doing. So it does change. Change it. Change it a little bit. Because I tend to. Like I said, I like coming at the scene fresh. I think I'm better in the first few takes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sure, sure. What was. What was the hardest. He broke you. Was there a ball? Like, do you remember a take, a line? Something that might not been in the movie or something that was in the movie?

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, but I can't say it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, can't. We can't get a 500 explosive.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't know if he would like it if I. It's a joke he made that I could tell you after. I can't.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay. All right. That's why you need to subscribe to the Patreon, everybody. It'll be there.

[Maura Tierney]

I can't. But it was really funny, and I still tell the joke now.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, you know, you mentioned something about him being serious. It was like. It was. I. I love that transition that he's made because it feels like he's happy now. And I don't think, you know, it seems like talking to you. And I know, like, like you said, you've. You've. Haven't. You know, you. You've been able to maintain a normal life and. And. And work and consistent career. But it's like someone like him, it's like to be that big.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, to be arguably the biggest comedic actor of the 90s and just. And be. Be thrown a lot of money and. And realize that that's not what brings the happiness. You have to be content with just being alive and existing. It's. It's really interesting. Like, I. I kind of love listening to him talk because he feels like he just is. I mean, it might seem abrasive in an interview, but he definitely seems to have an outlook that I never would have expected. A lot of people don't ever get that.

[Maura Tierney]

No. And I think he's incredibly intelligent and, like, clearly, like, there's 600 things going on in his mind at one time, which, which allowed him that opportunity to. To act those characters. But it must be a lot to live with. And it seems like he's been able to focus and distill it into a place that. I don't know him. We're not friends anymore.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sure. But. But yes, you see something in Robin Williams. Like, you see it in Robin Williams too. It's like when you. You're working. I mean, unfortunately, Robin, like, wasn't able to handle it or, you know, I don't know what his journey was, but it's. To be that. To be that kind of comedic mind as, like, it's there, there's. There's. You're constantly just probably hearing stuff, because the way he riffs, it's like that's how his brain thinks. I mean, to be able to calm that down, you know, for Jim, it feels like he's probably figured it out. And it's. I'm unfortunate from other comedians that I've been friends with that. That, you know, like. Like I said, Robin Williams.

[Morty Coyle]

It's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's like you're, You're. It's. To be able to do what Jim's done, it's a beautiful thing. And so. Yeah, I just gotta say, I love that movie. So I. I don't think I've laughed harder. And you killed it, by the way, too. So. We're just talking about Jim. But you were amazing. We're not just.

[Maura Tierney]

No, thank you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Okay.

[Maura Tierney]

Well, I'm usually the straight guy. And that's not a bad thing. No, it's not straight, man.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, my God, no. All right, left of the dial. This is a love letter to college radio and also specifically about. To guitarist Lynn Blakey, who played in the 80s Georgian band let's Active. Blakey had asked Paul to stay in touch via letters while they were on the road at the same time. And failing to do so, he eventually got to hear her when let's Active can't come through or came through on college radio stations as they passed the town before the signal just as suddenly faded out. Song features big stars Alex Chilton on backing vocals. As you'll remember, Alex also provided some of the additional production on the record. I mean, this is a song that's still played on college radio. This is still like alternative, you know, in the rotation. I love this song, you, thoughts?

[Maura Tierney]

I love it too. Again, if I was gonna pick my favorite four songs on the album, that's the least sort of nostalgic one for me or gets me going like, little mascara might do it a little bit more. But I didn't know everything that went behind it. So now I have to listen to it with fresh ears now that I'm learning all the things about all the songs.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Ah.

[Maura Tierney]

From you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The more you know. We already talked about it earlier, but.

[Maura Tierney]

I wanted to remember the more you know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, yeah, man. That's the goal. This podcast, we teach you some and then we also find out you don't know. You're gonna get the questions about your creek. You think you're coming on to talk about the replacements. And now we're about to ask you. We now are going to ask you about News Radio.

[Maura Tierney]

Okay.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Was. Were you. Were you doing comedy when you were younger or was it like, was it unexpected to book a comedian a comedic lead?

[Maura Tierney]

It was, but I love the show. I thought it was so funny. I was so happy to get that show. I mean, we. Well, I have a replacement story about. About news Radio. Do you want to take me there? Well, it's more Westerberg thing again, because that was in 94 and we did news radio. So this was around 95, 96. And, like, the makeup guy on our show was also the makeup guy on the Larry Sanders show, and Westerberg was performing there, and he invited me and Dave Foley to go watch the sound check of the performance. So we went over to the Larry Sanders show and watched the sound check, and it was just like, awesome. And Westerberg loved Dave Foley so much and was telling Dave Foley how much he loved kids in the hall and going on and on. And I was standing there and I was like, I would, like marry you had been listening. But it was funny because I was very jealous that Westerberg and Dave were having a freaking love fest oh, but it was still fun.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean it's amazing. And they think about like the cast of that show with you like Phil Hartman, Steven Root, Stephen Root, who is probably the best character actor working. I mean he is just. Yeah. Constantly doing John Lovett's Andy Dick and then the greatest voice in, in podcast history, which did you know.

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, Joe.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is it shocking that Joe became joke.

[Maura Tierney]

Is Joe was on the show. I'm like, oh right. Joe Rogan.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Was he just doing, was he just practicing kicksboxing when he wasn't doing a take?

[Maura Tierney]

Because he was, you know, he's very. Yeah. I mean he, he does that. He was always that guy, that mixed martial arts guy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

But people say to me, are you surprised? No, actually not at all. He, he, he was opinionated. He, he, he, you know, I'm not surprised. Joe Rogan is the Joe Rogan experience right now.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, well, it's, I mean I, as a friend of his, it's like. And just I remember when I went, I was on the podcast early on when it was just like before podcasting really had blown up and it's just like it still blows my mind that he was just this, this, this meathead like pot smoking, psychedelic taking guy that did Fear Factor. And for him to literally be 20 million listens, it's. And to see what it, but it became. It's, it's just, it's insane. It's. It's insane. It really.

[Maura Tierney]

Is it surprising to you he doesn't care what anybody thinks? No, he doesn't say whatever he wants. That's why people like to hear that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sure.

[Maura Tierney]

I like to hear someone who's not full of.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Sure.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Can I ask you a question? How do you balance out decide on between more commercial and more left of the dial independent projects? Like how do you.

[Maura Tierney]

I do work with a downtown experimental theater company called the Wooster Group which is like, it is experimental theater. So whenever I can, whenever they want me, like in April I'm going to London to perform with them after this job. So like I don't my, my stuff that way. I do in the theater. I know really my non commercial like artistic experiences with this group.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

So we don't really look for it in movies.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So you don't need it because you get to, you get to really open up. You get to do it. Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah. And it's like wild. Yeah, it's really fun.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, I forgot to ask this question about the news radio thing, but as I'm looking at the picture of the cast who made you laugh the most? Was it Phil Hartman, Stephen Root, David Foley, or Andy Daniel Dick, or Joe Rogan?

[Maura Tierney]

That's a really tough one. Andy was hilarious. Vicki was hilarious. Can you know Phil? Phil's funny. This is really. I don't know. That's. I don't know. Everyone was really funny. I know that's not a really great answer, but. No, it's true. Like, it was really spontaneous, and we were all pretty young, so at any moment, anyone could just come up with something, including the writers. Like, we just had fun.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Andy is a peak. Andy Dick is just one of the funniest people when he was on the Ben Stiller show.

[Maura Tierney]

And so funny. I mean, Phil Hartman wrote uniquely funny, too. No other person, you know, and a.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Complete genius on stage. When I've seen Dave, all the kids in the hall. But it's like. But Phil. I think Phil is the one that. That he just. He had. It's really sad that he's gone, because he was so incredibly funny. A part of some of my favorite movies and, like, Peewee's Big Adventure and so much so. And that was one of the main reasons I tuned in, because I loved him and Dave from Kids in the hall, and it turned into one of my favorite TV shows, so. What a cool thing.

[Maura Tierney]

Very. Also nice, man.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

Very, very nice, man. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right, so let's just move on to Little Mascara. Yeah. This. This is more of a delicate, introspective track with emotional undercurrents about small gestures, rituals, and fragile adornments we use to mask ourselves. Thoughts on the song or.

[Maura Tierney]

I don't know, but I love your. Do you write these?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Morty does. I don't write this. Morty. Morty goes over with me, and he basically hammers all this stuff into me.

[Maura Tierney]

And it's. They're really well done. It's sort of. I'm like, okay, good. Got it. That's a really good.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's. I've been working with him since very early on. He was a brilliant musician, and he just loves music, and he. You know, so before the podcast, like, I'm working on this, like, two hours before, where he's like, all right. Paul Westerburg's working as a janitor. He meets Tommy Stinson. They're in the basement. He knows sometimes he writes, like, too much, where you're like. He's like, just so you know, on the day that they wrote this song, Paul was wearing mismatch socks. I'm like, like, why the. Do we need to know? That dude. Morty's smile went from really good. No, it's awesome, dude. It's awesome.

[Maura Tierney]

That's a thoughtful examination of the song. And.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And he is so good with words, too. This. That's why I was saying sometimes he'll write words that I have no idea how to say him, so he has to, like, write them out phonetically. Like every person's name that. That's come up on here. He's literally writing it out, like, you know, like, for like a two year old. It's like. What was the name earlier?

[Maura Tierney]

Bullion. The right word. Can someone tell me?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, he's. Well, he's on, like, he's on the thing. Was that the right word? Morty, you can pop in. All right, now. Here we go. There he is. What is it? Oh, we can't. We can't hear you. Morty.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

The way she used a bullying was correct.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

It's. It's shiny. I mean, it's another word of just sort of saying glowing.

[Maura Tierney]

And I said it about a song. Correct.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

I think you were talking about Kiss Me on the bus or a feeling.

[Maura Tierney]

Yes, okay.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Of a bullion of feeling.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

That bolstering. That expressiveness. Yeah, that expressiveness you have when you're young and you're on a bus. You're not in control, but you're like, with the date. And my first date was a bus into Westwood to go see irreconcilable differences. So that's how old I am. Remember Drew Barrymore, Ryan o' Neill Stone with a big heart and Shelley Long song?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, yeah. Oh, Shelly movie.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Her first, like, big movie role.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like, I thought it was true. Beverly Hills.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

No, no, she did Night Shift before Shears.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, yeah.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

She, like, this was like, this sort of like, the girl from Cheers is in a movie with Ryan o'. Neill. It's a forgotten movie, but it's. It's actually.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think you're the only person that's ever been that excited about it.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

I got no kissing on the bus. That was the best part of the day date.

[Josh Adam Myers]

If. More like. If you really want to check out. I think you'd love his band all day. Sucker. He's a brilliant musician, brilliant singer. Like, so check it out. Thank you. Morty, having started as a theater actor, do you have any rituals and processes for even or even superstitions that you bring to each new role?

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, depends. Like, depends. Sometimes, like, I will wait until the very last possible moment to put on my costume or do whatever, because sometimes in the theater I want to be as off kilter as I can before I go out there. So I'm not too much in my head. I've done other plays where I had to do this one play where it's basically a 30 minute monologue. And I would have to do that monologue twice during the day. I would do it once when I woke up, and then I would go to my dressing room and do it again. So, like, there was every single. I would just run it and if I made a mistake, I'd go back to the very beginning. So it depends on what the piece is. But I do have stuff I need to do, whether it's over, rehearse it or whatever, or put off as long as I can, basically till I walk on stage.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. What's the. Do you have like a fast. I get it. No, it is fascinating. I always find it like, my actors process is very fascinating. It's like you do the same thing in theater that you do for like, television and film, like, because I can't assume you. You. Because there's so much more waiting in. In film and. Yeah. And in television. So.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Do you still try not to get dressed into the last second? They're like.

[Maura Tierney]

I do. I don't like sitting around in my. My cop uniform. I'm on Law and Order now. Like, I. I don't. I don't like to sit around in costume. It ruins it for me. I like to put the costume on and go to set. Like, so partially. Yeah. In. In that sense. I don't like waiting around like, ready? Because then your energy gets all messed up.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Have you met Dick Wolf?

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is he cool? I've never seen a picture of him. I never. I didn't know if he was a real human being. I just like.

[Maura Tierney]

I feel like, what am I gonna say? He's not cool.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, no, he's not cool. I'm not saying that.

[Maura Tierney]

I was just like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's just.

[Maura Tierney]

You're my boss.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He's nice. I mean, he's like one of the most important people I did. Law and Order is like one of my favorite shows. There's like 45 of them. I mean, the guy, it's like almost feel like he's. It's like the Hudsucker proxy. It's like, is he a real. Is he real?

[Maura Tierney]

He is real. And he has a party once a year and we all come to it, and it's very. Just wild because, like, Dick will make a speech and then everyone just sort of pays a Comes and pays Homage to Dick. There'll be a line that's awesome. People, you know, saying thank you or like kissing the ring sort of. But he's been nice to me. I sit next to him at those dinners. He's nice to me.

[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

He's.

[Maura Tierney]

He's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Dude, so many. There's people that have been able to work. He's. He's created so many jobs, not just for actors, but for crew and.

[Morty Coyle]

And.

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, and the shows are great.

[Maura Tierney]

Probably thousands of people.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. And dude, Law and Order is a show that you don't have to watch. You could watch season season 8, episode 4 and you're like, you. You got it. That's entertained.

[Maura Tierney]

Point of it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Exactly. It's like. It's genius. It's genius. All right, final song on the record. Here comes a regular. This acoustic guitar ballad recorded in one take by Paul alone.

[Maura Tierney]

It was.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. Who also overdubbed the little piano solo section and like, likely played the uncredited cello sounding synth at the end is a poignant and melancholy ode to his fellow local barflies at Minneapolis CC Club that carries with its comfortable regularity as regularity. A sad shame. I thought this was a great way to end the record. I didn't want it to end, but yeah. Dude, I feel like 11 is perfect. Your thoughts on this being the final song or any thoughts on the song you want to add?

[Maura Tierney]

No, I think it's beautiful. I mean, I think it's a. Okay, I'm gonna use another big word.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Go.

[Maura Tierney]

Hit me on a monopoeic. I don't know if I'm using this correctly either, but it sounds like exactly what it is to me, that sound. I've been a regular at a bar. I've not liked that feeling, except liking the feeling that you. You are. You know, there's shame in it. There's comfort in it. And the song is just so. Again, pretty. But it sounds like this kind of yearning. It's almost like the inverse of Unsatisfied. It's like. It's like the beautiful version of Unsatisfied. Does that make sense? Because it's not working right. But it. And it's not loud, it's. But it's quiet. But it's the same sentiment.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. And I agree.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I want to end this. And we might have kind of mentioned this already, but we were talking about. Because you. I love that you still doing the theater. As with having that theater troupe that you do when you're going to London. Do you prefer the regularity of the. Of the Television series compared to theaters and movie or, like, if it's up to you, what do you. What do you prefer the most?

[Maura Tierney]

I. It's always different. I mean, I. I have worked. You know, this is now broadcast television that I'm doing again. It's more work, like 22 episodes. When. And I love my job, but, you know, when I was on streaming, when that used to be more of a thing, you get more freedom with language, with content you can curse. You could go to darker areas. So there's a little more creative freedom in that kind of television. And this, it's a little more rigid and structured. So you have to find the freedom in there to be creative with what. I sometimes like to try to find a way to be creative when there's restrictions around it. And I haven't done a movie in a while, so. Twisters, I mostly work until. Oh, yeah, I did that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

The Iron Claw. Like, this is all, like last year, the dude, years ago, she shot it. Right. She's so dialed in on Law and Order right now. You're like, no, no, no, you're in the Twister.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, it's a great movie. I worked on it for four days, though. Like, I was in. And I was out in Oklahoma City and Iron Claw. Yeah, I forgot about that. That was a while ago.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But yeah, it was a great movie, by the way. But I. I love this movie. It was really. Yeah, it was. I didn't. I knew and heard of that story of the Von Erics, but I was out with. I was in Arizona during. I guess it was last two years ago, 23. And it really was emotional. It was. It was great. It was a really great movie. Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

But Twisters worked very hard on it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Twisters, though. I'm an original Twister guy, right?

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Love Twisters, though.

[Maura Tierney]

Are you throwing some shade?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, I'm not throwing shade.

[Maura Tierney]

I'm just. Dude, it does sound like it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Bill Paxton.

[Maura Tierney]

I recently also watched the original one and it's. It's great. It totally holds up.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It totally holds up.

[Maura Tierney]

Actually Dropped Trucks. There wasn't CGI and stuff like that. Like, he. Those were practical stunts, a lot of them.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I love that.

[Maura Tierney]

Not to sound like a geek, but.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And for little people that don't know, Yonder Mont directed Speed. I forget what he did.

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, was it Yonder Bond? It was Twisters.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. No, you're right. It was Yonder Bond and then he did Speed and then he did Twister. And Morty was talking about going to see that movie on a date. I took I think took the hostess from the Outback Steakhouse in Germantown, Maryland, on a date to see the original Twister.

[Maura Tierney]

So. So this is why you guys work together. You like to bring dates to movies.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, I don't do that anymore. Now. Now it's like now I'm just dinner and then walk around New York or concert, always running. I mean, we're in the greatest city for live music. Like, New York is hands down. I mean, last week I saw the Cult, Rachel Yamagata and My Morning Jacket three days in a row.

[Maura Tierney]

Where'd you see the Cult?

[Josh Adam Myers]

They were at the Beacon.

[Morty Coyle]

Oh.

[Josh Adam Myers]

If you want, I think here at something you might. You might really dig. Before we wrap this up, there's a website called oh my Rockness. O H M y. Rockness. And it'll tell you every concert that's happening in New York City and the surrounding area is like in a 15 mile. Like. Like there's maybe Long island or like Jersey City might be in there.

[Maura Tierney]

I'll check it out.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Dude, it's really cool. If you're ever like, oh, should we do tonight? You go on there. You'll be surprised who's performing in New York now.

[Maura Tierney]

How does the Cult hold up?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, they were great. Are they great? They were. They were great. Like, it was. I. I didn't know a lot of their music. I only knew three of their songs that I was really appreciating. Yeah, she Sells, Sanctuary, Wildflower. And then his. His voice, he. He still sounds good, but it's like there's certain he's not hitting the notes that he used to. Yeah, but as Morty and me always say, it's like, if there's anybody that you like or anybody that's famous that you're just. You've ever wanted to see, like, go see him now, you know, because you never know when. Yeah, but you never. You Tom Petty. Dude, I'm so bummed that I never got to see Neil diamond live. I mean, it's just. I would have. It would have ruled dead. He's not dead. He has Parkinson's. And. Yeah, he quit touring a few years ago and. And right. Right before I started really making money where I've been able to go to see shows and it's like, I just. I love it. So the Beacon's one of the most beautiful venues. Did you really? Yeah, we've done. How long ago?

[Maura Tierney]

Lot. I was married, so it was a long time ago. In the early 90s. Maybe. He did like a resident. They weren't calling It.

[Morty Coyle]

That.

[Maura Tierney]

But he did like three or four nights there, and I. I think I'm right. It was the Beacon, I'm pretty sure.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It seems like that would be the venue that he would play at, especially Upper west side. It's like a 3,000 seater. I could see a lot of. A lot of people do residencies there.

[Maura Tierney]

It might have been someplace else. Oh, no, because it was flat. The Beacon goes like this, right?

[Josh Adam Myers]

The Beacon has like a. It's. There's. There's two level. There's three levels.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's. It's. It's not.

[Maura Tierney]

This is fascinating, everybody. Let's just say I saw him at the Beacon.

[Josh Adam Myers]

We'll take that. We'll move it along.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, I'm live.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right, so. Oh, let me. Show me the lyrics sheet. Morty, What's. What's the lyrics? You want me to show. I don't know if we're able to pull it up, up. No, no, no, Morty. He sent me something actual at the.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

At the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Anybody who's a fan, first of all, if you've ever seen the first album, Sorry, Ma, Forgot to take out the trash. Liner notes are hysterical. What Paul writes for each song. If you get a chance, look it up.

[Maura Tierney]

I had that CD a million years.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Ago, and if you look on the.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Inside, you open it, it's got Paul's writing for each song where he talks. I don't even want to. I don't even want to defuse the bomb. This stuff is so funny. So he has the original lyric sheet of Here Comes a Regular in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. I sent it to Josh. You can look it up, pull it from your thing. But what's amazing are the lyrics that didn't get used. But hearing his frame of mind, because I have to assume he's referring to himself, but also probably Bob, because.

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, yeah, you know, you got to.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Imagine where this is coming from. I mean, he's the only one. And as we know about Westerberg, there are similar songs on earlier records within your reach. Off Hootenanny, where it's just Paul. It's just Paul, you know, doing his stuff. And then obviously, the last Replacements record was only going to be a Paul solo album, which ended up becoming, you know, which ended up becoming the last Replacements album. When you hear this song and you know that it's just him sort of singing it, I mean, I've cried. Anybody that's ever questioned their own substance abuse or anything, or alcoholism, but if you look up the lyrics, find the lyrics, and you'll see the lyrics that didn't get used.

[Maura Tierney]

But how do I find that again?

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Oh, it's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Right. Hold. I don't know.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

How do you. I sent it to Josh.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, I would have to. Let me see if I can send it to Jeremiah real quick.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Yeah, just stick it. Or you could stick it in the.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Chat, I think, or he can.

[Maura Tierney]

I'm like, oh, my God. If you stick it in the chat, I'm gonna be like, it's.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

But it's so cool. In his handwriting.

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, chat.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

And seeing that, that he.

[Maura Tierney]

I can probably Google it here.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm sending you Jeremiah. Here we go. It's.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Yeah, it's so cool. Like, when you see it, it's just something about. And then it's, you know, it's in handwriting and it's got, you know, his little lyrics on the bottom. The lights come on and, you know, you could see him and how he. How he simplifies it for the record. But how deeply he goes into details about specific. The police came, they said couldn't stay Y. Like, he really goes into more of the. I want to say, sort of the alcoholism of a thing. You know, the police had to be called. So when you read it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

A long time, some older guy said, you can't miss what you ain't had. I'm sick of everything my money can buy. He said, you're crazy and stupid. I said, yeah. You know, lyrics that didn't end up making it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

When you hear the final song, it's just a point. I mean, I get choked up about it. Just a poignant song. And knowing the Replacements, knowing the Mat's history of sort of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Maura Tierney]

Right.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

And they're famously. Their bootleg record is called the Hits, the Fans.

[Maura Tierney]

There it is.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Look. I mean, look, just.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, I had that first line where.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

You'Re like, that's a great line. But then as you get into it and you start seeing some of the things that aren't used.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. It's so.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

I mean, is so amazing how many verses he had. I mean, it's like a Bob Dylan length song.

[Morty Coyle]

Yeah.

[Maura Tierney]

You know, I was gonna say that earlier, but it accepted. To me, it's like, better. But that's. It is kind of like a Bob Dylan song.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Really?

[Maura Tierney]

Yes. I just said better than Bob Dylan. Please don't hate me.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

When you look at this and you see. Especially I love process.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

When you see somebody's writing and you see What?

[Podcast Advertiser/Host]

What?

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Their first, like, their absol. Vomit of what it was. And then they scale it back and you end up with this perfectly poignant.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

Just closer to an album of shambolic. This is the record. Anyway.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Throw me into the room again.

[Maura Tierney]

So, anyway, you guys have fun job, huh?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, it's. This is what's great about. It's great about, like I tell those people all the time. It's like there's. There's so much music that you never thought you were going to experience. And I mean. Or bands. I mean, I went most of my life without listening to this band, and now I'm like, I went to the house. I went to the Let It Be house last time I was in Minnesota. So it's just to be able to listen to these records is like. It's. It's. It's the most beautiful music. Some of the greatest music ever written. And I mean, the fact that this is in here, it deserves to be. And it's subjective, but, I mean, you got to make a case for every one of these records. And so before we do our final questions, I just want to thank you so much. I know you got to get out.

[Maura Tierney]

Thank you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

This is real fun.

[Maura Tierney]

I hope I. I get nervous, so I.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No. God, no. I love you in law and order.

[Maura Tierney]

Thank you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Everything you've done. I'm a huge fan. Never forget Twisters. You know, Never forget it. Never forget nine, eleven. Never forget Twisters. All right, These are the questions I ask everybody. This has been a blast. Thank you for being so cool. Dude, I mean it. What's your favorite song on this album?

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, it's probably Here Comes a regular.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Nice. Is this enough? Oh, no. Good finish off.

[Morty Coyle]

Cut.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I didn't mean to cut you.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, I do skip some of this.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Stuff, so it's not a no skip. All right. Can you. To this album?

[Maura Tierney]

Oh.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, I don't think so either. Because he sucks. Because then you're gonna. You start hearing the lyrics, and they're a little too, you know, just. They're too deep. In certain moments, it's almost too deep.

[Maura Tierney]

And then it's like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because Al Green would be far better. All right, what would be your elevator pitch to get someone to listen to this record? Oh, how do you sum it up?

[Maura Tierney]

I would say. Again, I'm not. I don't know if I could do that one. How. What's yours?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, I don't want to cheat mine.

[Maura Tierney]

Why not?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I would.

[Maura Tierney]

I would say.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I would say this is that if I. I would say this if you're. This is. This is for. For someone of my age in, like, their 40s, if they've never listened to this record. It's. It's just something that. All the music that I love growing up has been influenced because of this record.

[Maura Tierney]

See, that's why it's hard for me, because I've known this music since I was 20, 23 years old, so it's hard for me to, like, put it into a language that's not, like, woven into the fabric of my musical history and knowledge. And the Replacements and then who? Skirdu. And then the Pixies. And then, like, I don't know how to parse it out because it's. It's just.

[Morty Coyle]

Just.

[Maura Tierney]

Do you know what I mean?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I know exactly what you mean.

[Maura Tierney]

How to tell someone else to like it, because it's part of this way I grew as a.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You could have said, like, it spoke. It spoke to me when I was at a certain age, and I feel like it even when, if it was then, if somebody today was listening to the same record at that same age and they pay attention, and obviously it's. You know, music has changed, but it's like, if you really dig into it, I mean, this will affect you. And especially it's.

[Morty Coyle]

It's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's some of the. I mean, like I said, like, Bastards of Young is just. It sticks out so much, and it's like, I wish I would have heard that when I was younger, you know?

[Maura Tierney]

Oh, that's what I'll say. Yeah, I did hear you, what you said. Pretend I said it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, perfect. All right, please promote away. Anything. I know you're on Law and Order now. Do you have anything coming up that we need to look out for? It's. It's, you know.

[Maura Tierney]

No, no, that's it. I was just excited to talk to you guys about this. This. I'm on the show Law and Order. You.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Dude, congrats on all your success. You're such a sweet human being. I'm really, really. Like, I always get nervous when I'm, like, talking to. To people that I look up to, and you just are very, very calming energy. So thank you for being cool.

[Maura Tierney]

Thank you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Please come back if we find another record for you.

[Maura Tierney]

Yeah, come back if you're talking about PJ Harvey or Kate book.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Ah, we. We wish we would have known that when we did PJ Harvey, we already did Stories. Who's. She's one of my favorites. Because of this podcast, we did Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea. And then we did Rid of me. Is it rid of me or.

[Maura Tierney]

Yes, it's rid of me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, it's so good.

[Maura Tierney]

So good. All right. Kate Bush comes up and not running up that hill. I'm talking about that. All right.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Thank you so much. What I tell you? What I tell you. The one and only Maura Tierney. Follow her on Instagram at mauratini and that's instagram.com/mora tierney watch ER and support the that she does. And before we go any further, I want to give you another thing to read about what's going on. The band, their placements, they're all still out there, man. Tommy's still touring with Cowboys and Campfire and solo and was basis in Axel's Chinese democracy version of Guns N Rules services. Also we, we talk about how important Westerberg was. Sort of the unwitting voice of his generation influenced Kurt Cobain, Jacob Dylan among so many others. Those right after that. The same way that the high school in Greece is named Rydell High after Bobby Rydell who is a teen pop heartthriat in the 50s. The high school in Heathers, Westerberg High. Little tidbits Morty told me to throw in at the end time. Thank you, Morty. You always kill it. DJ Morty Coyle on All Social. All right, we just listened to Tim from 1985. Our new music pick this week brought to you bar by Distro Kid is a track called Seasick by Nikki P on T&TCM. Then you can find links to the music on our website the500podcast.com and if you were in a band directly, influence for all these albums are also you want music featured on the 500 album show that we're doing. Send us your song to 500podcasts gmail.com next week. It is Elton's John's Greatest Hits from 74. It is a smokes show so dig it. It's going to be an easy listen for all of you. Do your homework. Thanks for tuning.

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[Morty Coyle]

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[Josh Adam Myers]

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[Morty Coyle]

I've been tossed around on the shaky ground I was seasick, nervous and wrecked from the causal effect Hit me so quick relatively minor if I could only find hope.

[Maura Tierney]

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[Morty Coyle]

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[Maura Tierney]

Before?

[Morty Coyle]

Satan Sam for the fleece nation on the 500. The 500.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds of with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug. Uh, limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us? Cut the camera. They see us.

[Morty Coyle (additional commentary)]

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[Maura Tierney]

Massachusetts when segregation was a law. One mysterious black club owner, Charlie Fitzgerald, had his own rules.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Segregation in the day, integration at night.

[Maura Tierney]

It was like stepping in another world. Was he a businessman? A criminal? A hero?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Charlie was an example of power. They had to crush him.

[Maura Tierney]

Charlie's Place from Atlas Obscura and visit Myrtle Beach. Listen to Charlie's Place wherever you get your podcasts.

[Josh Adam Myers]

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