
Frankie Quinones returns to talk about Santana’s debut release, just weeks after their Woodstock appearance.
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He's got a special coming out in October on Hulu produced by Ali Wong. He is the man. Real Chicano dude, real Mexican. Perfect guest. Glad we had him back. We had DJ Morty Coyle sit in with us because he's friends. Always a pleasure working with Morty because he is the guy that schools me, teaches me what I need to know. RAID review and most importantly, subscribe to the 500 listen free on all platforms or anywhere you get your podcast. Follow me at Josh Adam Myers on all social media. Seriously, follow me at the 500 Podcast for their social media for the pod. Email the pod@500podcastsgmail.com follow follow the Facebook group run by Crazy Evan. And for all things 500, go to the website the500podcast.com all right, y', all, nothing left to say, but here we go with number 149 out of 500 with Santana. By Santana. You gotta always hit record. Janet, Jeremiah, I want to go back to doing that. I'm going back to doing that, dude. I'm going back to singing the people's name in from one of the songs. Going old school. And then I'm gonna give him the intro. I'm gonna give him an intro that I actually wrote for you, Frankie. But I want to first do. You gotta always hit record Jeremiah Benton Ban. Frankie, turn your camera on. You gotta do it. Da da da da. Morty, have a call 45 minutes before the show and write some questions. Gatton, tell me about CSNY and why deja vu is important, but track number three isn't. You gotta know why. Where the fuck did Frankie go? We're podcasting. My cleaning lady is coming at 2. I bumped her up in at an hour, but doesn't make a difference. She'll be here when we're still recording, but I'll send her and to my bedroom and then my bathroom because it's gonna take up an hour. And then I'll make a burrito with lean ground beef and avocado. Morty hasn't had cottage cheese. I am bad money. Last night I just saw Fantastic Four. It kinda bummed me out because I don't think Marvel knows what the fuck they're doing any more. I mean, the movie was fine, but it was no Robert Downey Jr. Pedro Ban and Jan. Pedro Pascal is really good, but he's no Robert Downey Jr. That was a lot. Keep. Put that in the episode. Put that in the episode. Frankie, Frankie, Frankie Is a vacation for romance. That's not the song of this album. Frankie, take me away to where I've always dreamed of. Are you ready, Frankie? Because I got my intro. You got 90 wires out. This is awesome.
Morty Coyle
It's got every wire.
Josh Adam Myers
You got a pseudo. This took. We supposed to start 30 minutes ago, but there were gardeners. Gardeners. And Frankie then signed online. But he had wires and microphones and headphones too. And he is tired. Cause he's been shooting in New Mexico. He's been working. Jesus Christ. Put those in a bag and hold them. Put them in a drawer. A junk drawer. Everyone has. We got a drunk drawer. We all got a drunk drawer. Everybody's got a junk drawer. Everybody. I have 1, 2, 3, and then I have a bag of junk. I have chords galore in my little makeshift music studio. And actually, well, yeah, let me do the morning. Good God. Let me do my intro. I'm going back to the old school shit. Because we used to do this where I sing the name of the person And. And being that it's the second time in here, you know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do a whole thing. I'm gonna even mention the record in this. So for the Fleece army today we are diving into the Latin rock explosion that Morty, I think would probably agree with me, has changed the game forever. It is the 69 self titled debut record from Santana with a full ride of psychedelic guitar solos and rhythmic genius grooves that just don't quit. And we have a guy who I think not only knows a thing or two about bringing rhythm, humor and cultural flavor to the stage. You might know him as Creeper from Cholofit. He is one half of the main characters on Hulu's this Fool. And I mean, I think for the most part, you just finished shooting something else. The Walking Dead. You are. You got a new special coming out produced by one of the most brilliant comics of all time, Ali Wong, which is a gift to all of us. And. And how cool is that for you? The one and only Frankie. You gotta do the podcast, Frankie. He's coming back for Santana his second time. You're the Santana dude. Dude. Baby.
Frankie Quinones
Finally found the chords. I need to hook the mic up.
Josh Adam Myers
What were you. What were you shooting in New Mexico? Can you talk about it or. Because that's so exciting, man. You're working so much. I love it.
Frankie Quinones
Oh, yeah, it was, you know, Tom Segura is making a. It's like a cartel comedy. Yeah, I play like this coked out cartel leader. Pretty fun.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh boy. You got to change your evil ways. That's awesome, man. I think, you know, I know like, I know like, you're in that YMH world and Tom's great. His, you know, bad thoughts with was great. And I didn't even know that's what it was about. So are you having fun? Was it a long shoot or super hot, I'm assuming too.
Frankie Quinones
Oh, not yet. Not done yet. I gotta go back on Wednesday. Go back a couple more times actually. Yeah, they're going hard at it. They just started last week, so.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, really?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, they're going hard right now.
Josh Adam Myers
Well, then I really appreciate, dude, because, you know, I.
Morty Coyle
We.
Josh Adam Myers
When I texted you about it and. And you were like, you. That's what I loved is I was like, hey, can you do the Santana Santana record? His first album. And the first thing you said is, it's the one with the lion on the front. I was like, dude, this guy knows, man. This guy knows, like you're a fan. And that. That Rules, dude. Because, you know, we. I want to. You know how much I love you. And we did. Holy shit. I don't even know. We talked about this on the last one. The first time you did the jam, actually, both times you've done primarily, I would say, like, like, like Latin focused music. We did the first time you did Give me your heart. Make it real real or else forget about it. And then you did Cypress Hill, and we do. I'm. I'm a great send dog. You're a. You're a much better be real. Mine falls apart halfway into the. Well, the time.
Frankie Quinones
But you can start off hot for sure.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, I came out hot, dude. It's. It. Let me ask you. So let's just get right into it then, like, you know, because from doing Abraxas and then doing the opening record, which one did you hear first? Like, did you. Did you hear Santana in, like, chronological order or like, was it just introduced song by song and then you started digging into the records?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, I think it was like, song by song that I started diving in. But I will say I did hear them, though, you know, like, my mom and dad would play the full record in the house. That's why I remember the lion face when. Because they had the. The vinyl, you know, And I remember tripping out on that because, you know that that drawing on the COVID is.
Josh Adam Myers
Is.
Frankie Quinones
It's like a lion face from far away, but getting closer. It's like a bunch of faces.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Come together. Like they're facing each other on the nose. There's even two faces facing out. And I was just like, whoa, dude, this is crazy.
Josh Adam Myers
Pull it up because I want to see it. Jer. I don't even. I didn't see that.
Morty Coyle
It's Lee Conklin, a famous psychedelic artist at the time Time San Francisco. The very reminiscent of the psychedelic composers. Lee Conklin is the name of the artist.
Josh Adam Myers
Big ups Lee Conklin. Can we get him on the pod? Jer? Call him. Is he dead?
Morty Coyle
He's dead. He's still trying to figure out how to turn his mic on.
Josh Adam Myers
Still got to get the poster up here. You know, Abraxas had a few of the songs that I think I really knew about, you know, because I think the first thing I got by them was their greatest hits and Abraxas, probably the first record I really dug in and listened to. Do you feel Morty? Because we. Did we talk about it. The Abraxas history or the. The history of Santana?
Morty Coyle
I wasn't on that.
Josh Adam Myers
Can you sum up the history in 2.10 seconds?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
Carlos Santana is born in Jalisco. He becomes a musician around the age of 12. He's playing at the. I think bass in a band. And then they moved to San Francisco. The Santana family lives in San Francisco. At the time that everything is going on in San Francisco, you know, we have by 66, 67, because we just did the Jefferson Airplane episode. San Francisco is a hotbed for music.
Josh Adam Myers
And now, wait. And now it's a hotbed for drugs and homelessness.
Morty Coyle
Well, it was there, too. That's the thing about that, is people.
Josh Adam Myers
Started defecating on the street.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
Where people went to Los Angeles and they were like, this is the industry capital. San Francisco became like a rock and roll mecca. That's where you went.
Josh Adam Myers
And it's.
Morty Coyle
And then all these, you know, all the bands that were actually from the area were already starting to get.
Frankie Quinones
To get big.
Morty Coyle
Similarly to everybody running to Seattle or everybody running to, like, New York.
Frankie Quinones
Everybody.
Morty Coyle
Everybody started coming there by the mid-60s. So much so that when George Harrison, when people heard about it, George Harrison came here to see what this was, and he was like, yo, it's kind of a bad trip. And everybody started coming up to him, asking him for money. And, you know, he was like, yeah, there's a lot of people that came here. What happened is a lot of people came to San Francisco and they ended up casualty. They got drugged out, they got burned out. They didn't have places to go, so they were on the street.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
But back to the band. This is.
Josh Adam Myers
This.
Morty Coyle
This band is a. While most people sort of erroneously think of it as, like a Mexican band, because there's so much Latin rhythms. Really. You have a couple of white dudes, you have. Carlos Santana is really. I think he's the only Mexican guy in the band because I think. I think the percussionist. I. What was his. I blanked out on his name. But, yeah, he had a. He has a nickname. Pep Kep. What was his name? Because they started off with one. So the other thing about this band is Bill. Bill Graham has the Fillmore. And that becomes a big hub for people playing. That's how we end up with. Which we'll get to later, how Chipito. That's his name. He's a percussionist. And so I think one of them was, like, Nicaraguan. And so, you know, they're Latin. But most people, when they think of Santana because of the name, they assume that it's like a band of larasa, you know, like, they're all. You know, and. And they're not. I mean, Greg Raleigh is the singer. You know, as far as I know, he's a white dude. So they were a multicultural band that happened to grab this. This rhythm thing, and they were still really young. You know, they had a black bass player, and they're still really young as they're coming up. So because of their connection to the Filmore, I mean, they're already signed as a. As a band by the time they do Woodstock. But, you know, we'll. We'll get into maybe more of the. The Nitty Gritty. But they're the only band that doesn't have a record out when they play Woodstock. So, you know, the record doesn't come out till like, a week and a half later. So by the time we know about them on this album, this album comes out, and then the movie Woodstock doesn't come out till 1970. So by the time the movie's out, everyone's like, oh, yeah, that's Santana. Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. Zoom in on that album cover. Yeah. Can you zoom it in? Because I can't. Like, is that your tattoo? Isn't your tattoo right.
Morty Coyle
Thing on that?
Frankie Quinones
It. Mine's a Abraxas.
Morty Coyle
Oh, is it?
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, my God. I love. Dude, you're the. You're the Santana guy.
Morty Coyle
Great. You were so the Santa.
Josh Adam Myers
You're the Santana guy, man.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah. See the faces in there? Dude, that's.
Josh Adam Myers
And you don't even hold it against Santana that they had a black basis. Like, you don't care, man. Like, you don't give a. And I love that about you. Is it. What is it? I mean, I. I understand that it's your family, you know, your mom and dad that have the records and are listening to it, but also, is there. Is there something about the. That Santana. And I know it's multicultural, Morty, like you said, but is there something, you know, like, is it about them, you know, you know, basically embracing his heritage in sound and also other heritages of the world that he's influenced by, but it's just like, it has that. That thing that it's almost. I don't. You know, I don't want to call it Latino rock at all. I don't think that's not. It's not, but. Because it's rock and roll. But, like, let me just ask you, like, how important is it for you to, like, embrace your heritage openly in your work? Like, do you try to, like, in a sense, incorporate. I mean, obviously with. With Creeper, you Know, and this fool and everything. I mean, but it's. You tell me.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, no, I think all that. That happens naturally. You know, you're just representing, like, what you grew up around and stuff like that. But like, Santana, for me, he was like the first dude because he had such a diverse band and stuff like that. He kind of was like the first, like, worldly, like whatever, like world travel, like Latino, where he just kind of like brought all these colors in, but he was still representing, like, you know, where he's from, and he's straight up from the motherland, you know.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
So it was kind of like. He kind of like, inspired me to like, open my mind up to, like, damn, there's so much out there. You know, even when I was a little kid, not. Not going anywhere, not traveling anywhere, but through his music, I felt like I was going place, like, going somewhere, you know, he was like showing me these colors and stuff like that. When he was, you know, he was Mexican, bro, in Mexicano. But, yeah, I just got mad love for that dude. And, you know, and then we're talking about the whole San Francisco thing. Like, you know, I'm from la, but I moved up there and I worked at this hardware store on Haight street for like six years, right? And so I was just, you know, in that whole thing, there's a lot of, like, Grateful Dead, like, stuff around there. But, dude, I was like going. I would always smoke weed on my lunch break right from the hardware store. And I walked down to the. To the Golden Gate Park. It's right there at the end of Kate street, if you know that area. And I see this crowd down in Hippie Hill, Hippie Hills, like, you know, where people gathered in there. And they're. They would have drum circles there, but the drum circle was like, extra cracking. I'm like, just going to smoke my weed at my lunch, dude. And I walk over there and I'm like, who the. Who's in there, homie? And then I go in and it's Santana.
Josh Adam Myers
No way, dude.
Frankie Quinones
He's chilling there. It's like, it's like a 2pm on like a Tuesday or Wednesday. And he has this huge crowd around him and he's just jamming out, bro, with the hippies on. On Hippie Hill in Golden Gate Park. Like, I was on a random afternoon. I was like, this is crazy, homies. So I'm like, I just sit there watching them. I smoke my weed and I'm like, I have to go back.
Morty Coyle
I'll be able to get in Trouble.
Josh Adam Myers
It's a hardware store, dude. It's not. Lt gray. Like, you can. You can get another one, dude, pretty easily. What's. What's that like, seeing him there? What's that like? I mean, what. What emotions are running through you besides just being high and, like, in shock? But did, like, what is he. Is he playing just jamming with whatever they're playing, or is he. Is he starting?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, yeah. He just, you know, it's like.
Josh Adam Myers
It's the groove.
Frankie Quinones
Six, seven drums. He's just. He's just on one drum, just boom. And then, you know, they're just getting it.
Josh Adam Myers
God, I love that.
Frankie Quinones
It was crazy, bro.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, I love. Yeah. And then one year, he was. You know, he went to Mission High School, and I think Chapito went to high school with him, too, at the same time, but I'm not sure about that. But at the graduation, he randomly dropped in the band, played for, like. Like, at the graduation at the high school. Like, surprised everybody. Yeah. So. Yeah.
Morty Coyle
So cool.
Josh Adam Myers
I mean, he's a.
Frankie Quinones
Cool.
Josh Adam Myers
He's a true icon. Not just, you know, you know, as. As a Latino, but it's just as a rock star, he's in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. And also, I thought it was really cool that, like, you know, back in 99 when he did that collab record with all those different stars with, like, Maria Maria, Even the stuff he did with the matchbox 20, it's like he won all these Grammys. Yeah. Was that the best record that year? I don't know. But you know what? It was. They got him the awards that he deserved years ago, and the Grammys tend to do that. And I feel it was a culmination of everything that he's put out.
Frankie Quinones
Well, even when he dropped, he was kind of already, like. People were like, okay. He had his heyday. Like, the whole, like, smooth and all that came way later. Way, way later.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
So it was like he was already like, okay, the old rocker dude that was still alive doing it, and then he dropped that album, and it was like, oh, like. Like, Maria Maria was on Smooth, I think was like, one of the most played records. And I don't know how long at that time, but it was like. I was like, oh, dude. He's just like, all right, you guys thought I was done now. Check this out. Bat, bat. Here's for your little top 40 hoes, too. Here's a little, you know.
Morty Coyle
A Clive Davis thing where he was like. Because Cry Davis famously could revitalize people's careers. Like, we got Celine Dion.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, Jer, hold on for a second before jumping into clips. Give us a moment.
Morty Coyle
Oh, that's dope.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, well, we'll look at that. What was that?
Morty Coyle
That was him at the high school.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, okay. Well, yeah, play that then. If he. Does he say anything or is it just him, like people clapping because Peter.
Frankie Quinones
Mission high school thing.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, dude, there it is. Let me take this.
Frankie Quinones
This moment outside of time.
Josh Adam Myers
If you can understand this.
Frankie Quinones
Making a moment outside of time.
Morty Coyle
That's when it becomes nimble.
Frankie Quinones
And me. I want to look at your eyes.
Josh Adam Myers
Is he tripping right now? He took acid and went. It went through the thing. I want to look at your eyes. Your face is melting.
Frankie Quinones
Hey, look at me, though.
Josh Adam Myers
You're looking at me and I'm looking at you. And I see you and you see me. And our eyes work and we work. Skip ahead, dude. Skip ahead. I got my cleaning lady coming in like 10 minutes. I gotta let her in.
Frankie Quinones
Chat.
Morty Coyle
He is channeling Mr. Rourke.
Josh Adam Myers
Get to some music.
Frankie Quinones
I always loved his. He always gives those little speeches, though, like the molecules of life. That's cool.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, that's rad. You see. You see Mexican Justin Bieber on the base back there. 12 year old Justin Bieber. Join the Patreon. You can see all this. Join the Patreon master, please. Theater. You know these cats? You know all the people on stage?
Frankie Quinones
No, not all of them, but the dude that was playing what's the thing with the woodhive?
Morty Coyle
Or. No, the.
Josh Adam Myers
The.
Morty Coyle
Not the Greek.
Frankie Quinones
The. Yeah, anyways, that's whatever. That's Andy Vargas. That's his godson.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, I love that.
Morty Coyle
Now.
Frankie Quinones
It's been his now been one of his lead singers for like 30 years now, but.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, that's rad. All right, you can cut it, man. That's. That's so rad, man. I love that. It's the pause button. There you go. Jer's on. Jer's on ibogaine right now. He's. He's on an eye. I'll be with him this weekend. Well, next weekend. All right, let's.
Frankie Quinones
So let's.
Josh Adam Myers
Let's talk about. Let's talk about an opening record, you know? Like, you know, do you got. What do you guys feel? I mean, is it. Is it like. Like how many bands have put out Bunk Records to start and then still had careers? Like. I know not. I'm talking major label stuff, you know, because this is. This is their self titled debut. Morty, you said this is on. They wanted this is on Atlantic. But they wanted Columbia.
Morty Coyle
No, no, they were offered Atlantic, but he was like, I want to be on Columbia because Miles Davis and Bob Dylan are on club. This is back when, you know, they would sign a lot of. Originally, this was called the Carlos. I think it was the Santana Blues Band, which a lot of people had their names. They always just threw blues in there. Jay Giles Blues Band. The Santana Blues Band. Like it was. To let you know that that's what it was. You were getting.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
You know, I don't really hear the blues.
Josh Adam Myers
Not at all. There's no blues.
Morty Coyle
But. But I think people was. I think it was an operative term, like calling it the grunge band or the hip hop band, you know, it just sort of immediately. But yeah, they were offered. I guess they were offered Atlantic, and they were like, nah, man, I want to be on the label as. The same label as Miles Davis, the same label as Bob Dylan.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
How do we. How do you.
Morty Coyle
Columbia.
Josh Adam Myers
How do you feel, Frankie, of this being, you know, even just the way it starts, like. But as a. As a debut album from where Santana has done what they do, you feel like this kind of sets the. The flagpole of, like, basically saying, like, this is who we are. This captures everything that Santana basically, you know, not stands for, but, you know, musically represents. You feel like this is. This is a good interpretation of where he is and where he's going to go, too.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, I think it is. I mean, you know, there's some of his best. Some of his most legendary tracks are on that album. I mean, Evil Way. Evil Ways is on there, right?
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, so.
Morty Coyle
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah. So it's like. And that song is. That's like. I don't know, it's had an original sound. And then when I would listen to it, I would try to, you know, put myself in that time period. Like, when it dropped too, it was just like, oh, man. So crazy. And then thinking about his Woodstock performance, too, I'm like, this is this. Is this guy just busting out? Because it sounded original, but it was also, like, current with that whole movement, you know, that was happening in. In, you know, 70s or, you know, late 70s or late 60s or whatever. But I don't know, I just. Yeah. And then, you know, it does have that Latin vibe to it, but it's not Latin rock like you said it would just kind of like. Like the little thing, you know, it's got the groove.
Josh Adam Myers
I mean, it's probably. It's probably, you know, compared to something like we talked about. A few days ago, like, Jefferson Airplane. I mean, this is far funkier, far groovy, or far more danceable, I don't think. I think the psychedelic in this record isn't even nearly as intense. So to be. To have this being lumped into psychedelic, I don't even know if I would call it psych. It is, but it's not.
Morty Coyle
It's.
Josh Adam Myers
I could see you tripping out to this and getting lost in it, but it's not. Yeah, yeah, he.
Frankie Quinones
He got crazier later, but I think that he was just kind of giving a little, like, okay, boom, here's all my stilo. And then now he definitely got more psychedelic on other records down the road. But. But, yeah, it was dope, man.
Josh Adam Myers
Just.
Frankie Quinones
And just, like, my mom and dad are, who put me on game, playing his records in the house. So just from listening to Santana, just because he was like, oh, he's one of us, and he's doing this. I saw my mom and dad, like, it opened up them to listening to other, you know, rock music. It was all because of Santana. Like, oh, well, he's doing this, and then he's rocking out with these fools. And then so they would buy these other records, you know, and they're two. You know, just a young Latino couple trying to raise their kids. They're just like, Santana is the one that opened the gate to them listening to, you know, different rock music, all because of Santana.
Josh Adam Myers
I dig that. I dig that. All right, let's. Let's talk about opening up to the first track, Waiting. It's instrumental. Just burst of percussion energy. I think it's a great way to open the track, open the album. I mean, you know, it's. It's. It really kind of sets the tone of what we're about to get. Thoughts on it? Frankie, anything you want to add or about the opening track?
Frankie Quinones
No, let's do it.
Josh Adam Myers
Perfect. Let's. Let's. Let's talk about waiting, because you mentioned you worked at a hardware store, and a lot of people have, like, taken jobs as waiters, you know, to kind of get ready. Like, what was the weirdest job you've ever had?
Frankie Quinones
The weirdest job? I mean, probably.
Josh Adam Myers
There was this. This.
Frankie Quinones
This, like, powder called Zit Fizz. I think it's still around, bro. But I would have to set up, like, little boosts inside, like, Costco or whatever, and, like, do that whole thing, like, get them to sample it. Yeah, like, hey, Zip fizz.
Josh Adam Myers
What was it like to put in a drink or something? Or. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Frankie Quinones
I think they found out it was actually, like, bad for you. But you think, you know, you just. You pour it in your water, mix it up. Zip fizz.
Morty Coyle
It got rid of zits or.
Frankie Quinones
No, no, it, like, gave you energy.
Josh Adam Myers
Not zit.
Morty Coyle
Oh, I thought it was zip.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, zip fizz.
Josh Adam Myers
Zip fizz. Like, it's like saying Josh shoots it up. No, it's like. It's like when I tell that story about almost overdosing at a rave, and I say I was in, and then I walked into the trance tent. Trance. The other. The trans tent would be way different. Anything was it. What was it like working at Costco? That must have blown.
Frankie Quinones
Well, I didn't work at Costco. That was just one of the places we went to set up these little booths.
Josh Adam Myers
Okay?
Frankie Quinones
It was. It was whack, man. I probably had some weirder jobs, too, but I had pretty big. I worked at it, like, bonsai nursery. I did a lot of handyman work, and then that led me into the. You know, the hardware store. And then I did, like, shipping and receiving. But I remember that job being like, what a. What a crazy job. And it was just like, yeah, you go set up at different places. Sam's Club, even the drugstore. But yeah, I remember being really hungover and having to go, like, try to, like, be the little zit fizz guy at the. You know, when people walk in, like.
Josh Adam Myers
Hey, I love that. I want some now I feel like I need some zit. I have zits and I need zip. Yeah.
Morty Coyle
No. Did they let you, like, could you bring the comedy into. Or do you have a script?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, no, you have a script. You didn't want to be there, man. I was like, you know, right?
Josh Adam Myers
Like, making your own.
Morty Coyle
Have fun with it.
Frankie Quinones
It sucked, bro. I would try to use my, like.
Josh Adam Myers
Hey, what's up, y'?
Frankie Quinones
All?
Josh Adam Myers
You know?
Frankie Quinones
But, like, on the inside, I was like, ah, sucks, you know?
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, there's nothing worse than doing a job you don't want to do. Like, that is in trying to have to stay positive and be like, all right, you know, okay, like, you know, I'll be right back for you then. It's just. Especially if you're trying to sell something, too. I also thought this would be an interesting thing about waiting because you act a lot and you between audition and finding out, what's the longest you ever had to wait for to find out you book something?
Frankie Quinones
The longest?
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Six months.
Josh Adam Myers
Fuck. What was it for?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, we shot up in 2017, me and my buddies were in a group called the Dress Up Gang. We got a. We got to make a pilot presentation, right, for TBS at the time. And this was in 2017. And it was like, you know, we're both. We're all doing the odd jobs and shit like that to make ends meet. And then these fools gave us, like, you know, give us a good budget, like just over 300,000. Just make a non arable presentation.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
And we thought we did a really good job. We worked really hard on it, and then all of a sudden, one month goes by, two months go by, and we're like, yo. And then it reached a point where contractually, they had to make a decision. So, you know, our reps hit him up, and they were like, oh, we're so sorry. Like, Kevin Riley was ahead of the network. He hasn't watched it yet. We're like, what? He hasn't watched it? Our whole lives are depending on this, homie. And so. And then they're like, can he. Can we get another week? And we're like, you know, okay. Obviously, we said, okay. And then. And this was already, like, six months of waiting. And then two days later, they hit us back. They're like, oh, he loves it. He wants 10 episodes. And then, like, you know, I think I told you that story before. I was delivering a sandwich on a doordash.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
And they called me and said that, so love it. Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
And then they didn't air the 10 episodes, right.
Frankie Quinones
Oh, dude. And then they gave us a premiere day. Everything. We're working our ass out. We got to make the 10 episodes.
Josh Adam Myers
It's so good. By the way, I just want to say this, you guys, like, I. You know, I love that show because I, I. The clips that you guys would post, it was perfectly cast. The dry humor and the. The ridiculousness of it. Every character was an individual. So funny, man, I. I love. And Andy McDowell, for some reason, is in it, which is even better.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, dude, that still blows my mind. She read, like, one or two of the little scripts, and she just was like, yeah, I want to do this. I was like, she was cool as hell, too, but. But, yeah, I was just like, oh, Groundhog Day had the biggest crush on her. But anyway, yeah, they gave us a premiere date and everything, homie. And we're just like, hell, yeah, it's coming. And then, like, two weeks after it gives premiere, dude, like, an @t. Time Warner merger happened, and they shelved this whole TV block we were gonna be on. It wasn't just us. It Was like five shows and they just buried it, bro. And they dumped it on On Demand like two years later, just like, all right, there it is. It was just like, oh, my God. It was wild, bro. It was heartbreaking. It was like kind of like my wake up or welcoming to the industry and how weird and crazy it would be, you know, just like, I didn't even know they could do that. You guys spent the money on 10 episodes and just like, no, no, we're not gonna air it. It's a tax write off. Like, just like crazy.
Josh Adam Myers
I know, Isn't that crazy?
Frankie Quinones
But yeah, just to answer your question, they made us wait six months.
Josh Adam Myers
Six months. At least. You got paid. You got paid for the 10 episodes. You know what I mean?
Frankie Quinones
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
It's like, you know, it's. It's not the way you want it. And luckily people were able to see it. Like I found it a lot of other people. And I mean, it's a great show. If anybody's out there, we're working just so the fleece army can find it. Where? Where is it? Because I know it lives online somewhere, right?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, yeah, you can. I think it's still On Demand on tbs, if you have that, or the TBS app, but there is some episodes on YouTube if you go to the dress up gang on YouTube. And then we just shot a feature to Impulse right now that we just locked picture like two weeks ago. That'll probably be out sometime early next year.
Josh Adam Myers
I love it. I love it. Yeah, yeah, dude, good for you, man. Let that. Dude, it's. It's, it. Trust me. And as you keep getting bigger, then people are going to keep finding out about that and, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really is funny. It's really funny. Everybody. Donnie's great. Everybody's great in that show. All right, for time. Evil Ways, this is the breakthrough hit. It just. Just swagger. This is like the groove. I mean, this is, you know, probably one of Santana's biggest songs, I would say. I mean, next to like, you know, some of the stuff we talked about later, but it's probably like this Oyakomova. What else. What else would be up there? Black Magic Woman.
Frankie Quinones
Yes, for sure.
Josh Adam Myers
You know, black women singing, just regular black women.
Frankie Quinones
He's married to a black woman now, so.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, he is. Yeah, he is. Santana knows. What's up, dude?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
You know, what do you remember, I'm assuming Evil Ways was in your house as a kid and you. I mean. Oh, yeah. What is. When you hear this? What is It. Does it just take you back there? What do you see when you hear the song?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, man, I just. Yeah, I. I remember hearing it in my mom and dad's living room and, you know, and then in their little apartment and. And then just, like, jamming out. Like, it has that, like, steady, like, groove or like that. I don't know how. I don't. I'm not, like, you know, a music expert by any means, but, you know, there's that count. It's nice and chill. It's like a chill but upbeat at the same time. I don't even know how to. If that I'm probably just butchering, right? The what?
Morty Coyle
The clave thing doesn't have the.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, yeah. You got to change your evil way.
Morty Coyle
When I see you at the kibbutz, I jump into it.
Josh Adam Myers
They didn't. They didn't write this, right? Oh, yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, you did.
Morty Coyle
No, this is a Sonny Henry song. I mean, Santana's famous. That. A lot of the stuff that people sort of think about when they think of Santana are covers like Black Magic Women, there's a Fleetwood back song, and then we'll get to Jingo later and stuff. But a lot of their stuff that, when people really think about Santana are just covers they popularized. You know, this is. This was a prior song, you know, but really? Yeah, they were the ones doing it, you know, they. They were the ones that introduced this to, you know, I mean, I don't want to say to the white society, but to the rock and roll fans and stuff, you know, that's.
Josh Adam Myers
Even.
Morty Coyle
Even when I listened to the Santana later, like, I was kind of like, really? Every song has to have Maria in it. Like, you could almost see, like, the people writing with them were like, I'll put Maria in. And they're like, great. You know, how original. Would you only see west side Story? You know, like. And that's. That's the thing about it, is when you listen to Even the later stuff, the rhythms are still there. You know, the rhythm of this, her first album, comes through on, like, even smooth.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, it really does.
Morty Coyle
It's got the same. Almost. Almost the same, you know, like, you know, rhythmic, rhythmic setup. So, yeah, Evil Ways, man.
Josh Adam Myers
Evil Ways rules originally.
Morty Coyle
Sun thing at the end.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. Willie Bobo, Latin jazz percussionist, big influence on Santana. I wanted to ask you a question. It's not focused on evil Ways. I don't know. I want to see if I can phrase this properly, but where did you. So you. You lived in LA for how long? And what part of LA did you grow up in?
Frankie Quinones
I lived in the Valley until I was about 12 and then, and then we moved to Oxnard.
Josh Adam Myers
Okay.
Frankie Quinones
Lived there for a while and then, and then, you know, then I went up to San Francisco and I was there for like 11 years.
Josh Adam Myers
Well, how old were you? San Francisco? How old were you up there?
Frankie Quinones
I was like, like 20.
Josh Adam Myers
So you, you moved up by yourself, I'm assuming, or like.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, well, and I live with some, I have some relatives up there. So I, I lived with my cousin for a while and then, and then I just, you know, I moved to Lower Hate with a homie and then started doing that life walking up to the hardware store and I went to school, went to San Francisco State.
Josh Adam Myers
Nice.
Frankie Quinones
And then I thought I was gonna come right back to la and I ended up staying up there for a while because I was like, ah, this. It was, I was enjoying, it was.
Josh Adam Myers
Dope, you know, like the weather, it's like, it's, it's way nicer like I think just weather wise. It's so funny. I was like, remember one time when I went to go do outside in August, it was 90 degrees in Los Angeles and when we got up to Golden Gate Park, 40 degrees, 40 degrees. And the band, nobody brought, no, I was the only one that brought a hoodie. So everybody had to buy. The band had to buy hoodies. And they were so sold out that all they had were like, like gay, like pink ones. And so the whole band just looked insane. I, I would.
Frankie Quinones
Oh yeah. Outside lands is fun though.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, it really is.
Frankie Quinones
But yeah, it's always, it's always foggy, bro.
Josh Adam Myers
Like always foggy.
Frankie Quinones
It could be a nice sunny day, guaranteed when 5pm comes, that Fox coming in, boy, that's what they call it, Fog city.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, I want to talk about, but I want to talk about growing up in LA and kind of seeing some of the people and like. Because I know like your character Creeper is based on like, you know, it's like the, the cholos that you, you know, you must have seen like living in Los Angeles, you know, the, with a lot of the cholo culture, like not all of it, but some of it is aligned with kind of like, like gang culture. Like, like did you ever get like at a young age, like get pushed into anything like that? Not pushed in, but you were, you know, like how close were you to it and like how did you try to avoid it if you were.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, no, I mean, my dad was the first one I saw. He was just straight up, you Know, Dickie's crease, Chuck Taylor's white tea crease down the middle. You know, the palm comb with the three flowers? The three flowers, like a heavy pomade. It takes, like, two weeks to wash it out of your hair. But my dad would have that. And he didn't do A Funny Story. He would always get it at Kmart. And when they closed down the Kmart, he was all tripping out, like, where am I gonna get my. My Tres Flores? You know? And my mom's like, hey, relax. Like, they have it on Amazon. And he was like, what? Amazon has stress Flores. That's crazy. But anyways, he always had a low rider, man. Used to have a 65 Impala with the little chain steering wheel. Yeah. And he just wrapped it, bro. But he was like. Like he was already out of that street stuff and all that. He would just repping his. His stilo, you know? And his best friend was my. My godfather. He baptized me my Nino John. He was president of Vijitos Car club for, like, 33 years, right? So I was always around, like, that positive side of the culture. While I did have relatives and cousins, though, that were, you know, in the gang life and stuff like that, they were my. My dad and my nino, his best friend, were more just, you know, they were about low riding and repping the stilo. But, you know, when I was trying to find my identity and all that, and I got sprung on a chola. I just, you know, I had a crush on this troll, and I ended up. I got jumped. I was. You know, I was wearing. I started wearing the. My mom didn't want me to wear it. My dad's like, nah, nah, let him. But my dad wake me up at 6 in the morning, make me crease my dickies, crease my white teeth and. But I ended up getting jumped, bro. I got 12 staples in my. In my head right here. I still got a dent in my skull.
Josh Adam Myers
Me too.
Frankie Quinones
Remind me to. Remind me, like, you know, I was trying to be something I wasn't. And these dudes jumped me, and they hit my head against a metal door. But, you know, the adrenaline's going, so you turn around. I'm like 12 years old, you know? So I'm like. And they. They were like, yo, yo, yo, yo. Even they, like, were like, oh, they didn't mean to like me up that bad.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
But I'm like, well. And they run out the bathroom, and I look in the mirror, and there's, like, a mouth on my head just open, bro. And I Was just like, wow. So, you know, I tell that story, and I'm like, that's when I, you know, switch back to Bugle Boy jeans and cargo shorts.
Josh Adam Myers
Where my British night shoes at?
Morty Coyle
Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
Damn it. Was that in school?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, dude. It was funny because my mom was pissed because I. One of my homies just went to the. To the. The nurse at the school, and they asked for, like, a big bandage, and I just kind of, like, sealed it up with a bandage and I went home. And my mom's like, what's under there? Like, let me see it. You know? And I'm just like, no, no, don't worry about it. She's like, what? Like, no, like that. Like, let me see it. And then she lifts it out and sees. She's like, oh, my God. Like, so she was pissed I got the school. She's like, how the. You gonna give out a big ass? It was like this. The bandage, you know, and not see what that's for. Like, you know, like, we're. It's a middle school, you know, so it's just like. So she was pissed, bro. It turned out to be this big old thing. But, you know, nothing ever happened of it. It was just like, you know, I got the staples and went away. I learned my lesson. That was cool. You know, I was trying to be. I was trying to be something I wasn't, you know?
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
And I remember my. My cousins being all pissed. Like, who the did that to you? Like, da, da, da. And I lied. I not only lied to them, I lied to my mom, too. I was like. I told him I was playing basketball, and I tripped and I. And it was a brick wall, and I was going for the ball, and I just hit my head on the wall. And they. They bought it, and they were like. Because my cousins would have been, like, doing some crazy. And I was like. I didn't want it to get any crazier. And I actually ended up being friends with the guys that jumped me.
Morty Coyle
I was gonna ask. I bet y' all bonded.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, that happens a lot because you just have, like. You end up having, like, a mutual respect or whatever it is.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, did. Well, let me now. Now going off of, like, you know, the. The character creeper. Like, has anybody from that community got pissed at you?
Frankie Quinones
There's some, but, like, for the most part, you know, they know what it is. I mean, they're like, you know, there's always going to be haters in every area. Of course, I remember in the beginning, it doesn't happen so much anymore. But like in the beginning, oh, this idiot, he's misrepresenting us or making us look bad and da da da. But that's like, you know, hold on a second.
Josh Adam Myers
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Frankie Quinones
Oh, my goodness.
Josh Adam Myers
Put that in your head.
Morty Coyle
What's your favorite?
Josh Adam Myers
Santana. This is.
Frankie Quinones
We're doing Santana today. How you doing, Frankie? Hi, Frankie.
Josh Adam Myers
You know him from Cholo Fit. You know him. You know, from Cholofit. That's Morty. You know him from just being a Jew. Hey. And Jeremiah. We'll be in Ibiza together, and nice to meet you guys. I want to have sex with some of his friends, his girlfriend's friends, and hopefully that happens. Don't tell her that.
Frankie Quinones
He's so special.
Morty Coyle
Have to use the sanitary setting on the washer.
Frankie Quinones
Dude.
Josh Adam Myers
That's my dude. Check. You want to something funny that you'll appreciate, Frankie. And you might appreciate everybody might, because a few of the guests have been on. She cleans like. Like, we. All these comics. Like, me, Mad Dog Mad. Who hosted the seller, Mato Lane, Ian Lara. Like, I go on and on. Like, Lisa Trager. Like, she works with all of us and even lives at the Cellar. And, like, I mean, I'm not gonna say it, but I'll always ask, like, whose apartment's bigger?
Frankie Quinones
Like, how's mine?
Josh Adam Myers
Like, is my bigger? Am I doing good? She's like, yeah, you're doing better than that person. Mateo's killing it. Like, you know. Yeah, Mateo. I mean, come on, dude.
Frankie Quinones
That.
Josh Adam Myers
That is. That is. He is. I'm so happy.
Frankie Quinones
Plus, the gay homies, they're better at decorating and stuff like that.
Morty Coyle
I mean, that'd be so nice. My.
Josh Adam Myers
My ex girlfriend decorated this place. It's not terrible. I just need more space. That's the problem with, like, New York just compacted. So we're the. Everything's bunched up and just needs to breathe.
Frankie Quinones
Did you adopt her from Rosebud or.
Josh Adam Myers
No, this is Rosebud and Andy Haynes's old apartment. And, you know, they're. Oh, wow. And so I got in at a very, very reduced rate, and I got good homies and friends that live in. That's friends. But I, you know, because of the dog, I meet everybody, and it's a very closed off building. But it's like, you know, dude, it's one of those things where it's like, I could move into a nice apartment or I could live here and have more money to enjoy the city. Do you know what I mean? And that's the best thing, is that it's a dope one bedroom. I got a tempur pedic with the cooling mattress. You know what I mean? Birds come over, they don't want to leave, you know, I mean, my toilet pressure might be a little weak, you know, And I think there's something dead outside by my window that smells like butt. But, you know, I'm killing it. Dude, that's what you do in New York. Dude, that's what you do in New York. Big J, we were talking about it and he was like, dude, you got a great apartment. Even though my radiator, once an hour goes, you just put up with that because it's New York, the dream living. Hey, man, I'd still rather be here than la. I love this town. I mean.
Morty Coyle
Well, no, I get it.
Josh Adam Myers
I get it, you know, dude.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
And you know, it's like when you're born in la, that's one thing when you just come to visit and at least there's like. I don't want to get caught up in this because I want to keep back to this record. But I'll say this is. Is like there is. I know that I'm walking around and the people that I see are real people. And when I go to la, I know I'm looking around and everybody I look at is like, that person's probably broke on their dad's credit card. That person's driving that and they're probably a billionaire. And that person. It just really just feels like I'm in an actual city of like, of. Of. Of like people with intentions, but not you. Evil ways, baby. Let's do the next song for time. How about Shades? Oh, my God. This next song's got time in the title. Shades of Time. Themes about reflection and change is what I got from it. Morty, anything you want to add before we ask Frankie about it?
Morty Coyle
No, I mean, it's, you know, it's another solid. It's another solid song. This one is, you know, this one is Greg and Carlos together. This is like a Raleigh song.
Josh Adam Myers
I want to make sure that I want to make. Dude, is Greg still in Journey?
Morty Coyle
What? No, he hasn't been in Journey since the beginning.
Frankie Quinones
He.
Morty Coyle
So what? So. So those. We did this on the Abraxas episode. Basically, after a few albums, Greg leaves and starts his own band with a young guitar player that they got into Santana when he was like 16 or 17 named Neil shown.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, who? That's the guy. Yeah. Neil's in Journey still, right? And is he the Republican or the anti Republican?
Morty Coyle
I don't know his political.
Josh Adam Myers
Hold on, let me find out, because one of them I went to go see.
Morty Coyle
No, you're thinking of. You're thinking of Jonathan Cain.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, yeah, Neil, dude. Neil. Let me tell you guys, dude, I went to go see Def Leppard and Journey, and Neil, who I'm looking at right now, is 71 years old. So let's say last year he was 70. The dude was wearing the dopest, most expensive, like, Rick Owens outfit. I mean, like, I shot a video and you got the little Filipino guy killing it. And I was like, that dude, look at Neil, like, you know, killing the guitar solos, but also dressing young and yet still looking cool. Do you know what I mean? Like, not feeling like you see some rock stars. You're like, all right, like the guy that sings for Toto now. Like, the shirt he had, I mean, it looked like, you know, looked like it looks like the Abraxas type, you know, cover on the Santana one cover. Like, it was insanely bad. So that being said, it feels pretty.
Morty Coyle
Badass who wears the shades with his security, even if nobody in the room knows who it is. I've seen him walk into places and I'm like, I'm the only person that knows that that's Neil Shown. Yeah, the rest of the room is sort of like, whatever, and he has like a big security dude with him. But dude, Greg and. And Neil started this band as an, like, after leaving Santana, which is pretty. You know, you go this early because Steve Perry wasn't in the band until later. That's a lot of people don't realize he. Perry was not the original singer. He came on even as a second singer when they had. When they had the dude. And then he started slowly coming in. And then when we know it, like the 80s, late 70s is. It's like Wheel in the sky and.
Josh Adam Myers
Where you're like, oh, yeah, the gold. Yeah, yeah.
Morty Coyle
They're another. Yeah, so.
Josh Adam Myers
So, Frankie, I just saw you listening to it just to like. And it's. And. And as you should, because it's like, I don't know a lot of these songs by title too. It's like I used to do nine listens an album, and now I try to Keep it down to around three, depending. Any thoughts on what you were just listening to right there? Like, did you dig on it? I mean, is it. It's. It's all just. I feel like everything on this. This is a very non skippable record. Like, you can literally put this on and let it ride. Good.
Frankie Quinones
So good. Yeah, yeah, that's good, man. I mean, I like the, you know, whatever. I don't know what you call it. Like melodic, like, you know, talking.
Josh Adam Myers
Hold on, let me say this. I want to add this. I do this all the time. Like, Morty and certain people are very good at, like explaining the way music is. And then you and me are like, I like the melodic intricacies and the groovy feel and then you put like a Latino flavor on it, you know, I like the ste of the album.
Frankie Quinones
I don't mean to get all technical, but I like the ste of it.
Josh Adam Myers
You know, the homie on bass in the. Yeah, it's like that homie over there and that. What is that instrument?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, yeah, you know, it's got the wood, you know. Hey, homie.
Josh Adam Myers
It's. It's great, dude. I love that. I love. It's about reflection and change. It always shows you that, that, that, that, you know, Santana, I feel like even in his instrumental or even as whatever it is, there's a meaning behind it. It reminds me a lot of his playing. Reminds me of. And Morty, correct me if I get the guy's name wrong. The Eddie Hazel solo at the beginning of Maggot Brain, there's emotion into it and it really feels like he is. Because I saw that quote is like, he's. It's like he's speaking through his guitar, whereas. And I think that's a beautiful thing. Like his guitar, he says, quoted saying is you're. The guitar is your voice. And. And I love that. And I wanted to ask you, talking about time and your voice, you know, how did your comedic voice evolve since you started from the first open mic, which I'm assuming is in San Fran, to now, like, how much of Frankie now is in that first set? And I'm assuming a laundromat in San Francisco called Brainwash.
Frankie Quinones
The Brainwash Cafe.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
I don't know that first set. You know, I did get some laughs. I was pumped on it. But, you know, I was going for the low hanging fruit, the diarrhea and the sex jokes and doing that. But I don't know, I was. I was maybe, like, it took me a. Maybe a couple years to start really getting my own voice into my. My material. But, yeah, I would say, you know, I was always doing voices, and then, you know, I started doing my family voices, all like that. So it organically led to, you know, and I was a big fan growing up of, like, In Living Color, snl, and it was good. And, you know, there was a show called Culture Clash that was with some guys from, you know, from San Francisco and Los Angeles that were. They did. They had a sketch show on Fox called Culture Clash, and they were straight up like Chicanos, you know. So I was like, oh, shit, this is crazy. So I. Yeah, so I started making videos and. And back then, it was a little harder because technology was a little more, you know, harder to come by, but because, well, who. I went. You know, I went to school for broadcasting and media performance because I wanted to be a morning radio dj, and. But I met people that were getting into this. This world. So I was able to get like, a camera guy, stuff like that. And then I started shooting sketches, you know, and so it kind of. While I was still doing stand up, so it kind of was like, already kind of brewing that I wanted to. To, like, produce content. And then as time went on, not only did my, you know, not only was I putting more and more myself out on stage, but I was able to start adding layers. And I learned how to write script. In the beginning, I would just draw, like, storyboards, kind of like this thing.
Josh Adam Myers
I'll just.
Frankie Quinones
Oh. Because I could draw a little bit. So I'll just draw a storyboard. I'll book a camera guy and then be like, here, we're gonna do this, and here's the first scene. And he'd just be like, all right, cool. But then what? My buddy Kevin Kamiya taught me how to write script. And then so I started writing scripts. And then, yeah, he was like, to put layers of emotion and stuff like that into sketches of Creeper and stuff like that. Because, like, to touch on your point, there was like, I would meet. I love when I meet people at shows and they're like, yeah, we saw you doing, like, this cholo and da, da, da. I was like, hey, what the. Like, you know, they kind of took, like, left like, a bad taste in their mouth that I'm like, trying to whatever, put a negative light or something. Whatever their thought.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Then they're like. But then I started watching the videos and I was like, oh, like, he's doing this, you know, like, he's not just out there, like, you know, it's like, oh, there's. There's like, this dude is like a grounded person, Creeper, you know, and, like, a lot of people from my community can relate to it or they know somebody like that. Like, they go, oh, hey, Creeper's my friend Ricky, or that's my cousin, or that's my dad bad. And so I think as time went on, people that didn't maybe got, you know, weren't with it in the beginning were now, like, oh, okay, now I see what he's doing.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Like, this dude has. Has layers to him.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Like a real person.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
So I was like, so I don't know.
Josh Adam Myers
It.
Frankie Quinones
It. It kept growing to that. You know what I mean? And then just kept going.
Josh Adam Myers
So, I mean, you know, anything about Creeper is like, he's very positive. It's not like you're making fun. You're really like. You're helping people. You're not. Not on people. And if you do, it's a cute, funny thing. This is saying, hey, you're doing this wrong. Nah, man, you got to do and work on your letterless. You know, whatever the genius thing you come up to. To describe a body part, you know, like, what would you call. What would you call. What would you call this part right here on the leg? What would you call that? What would Creeper call that? This part?
Morty Coyle
What?
Frankie Quinones
The what? The gluteus muscle, man.
Josh Adam Myers
Wow. You got that in your holster. Just shoot it out, baby. Shoot it out. I love this, man. This. I'm so glad.
Morty Coyle
You ever get a chance to do. Dj, did you ever get a chance to do any radio, like, morning?
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. Good question. Yeah. Did you. Do you ever get on. I mean, I'm assuming you've been on air doing, like, interviews for, like, but it's like, you ever get to do morning? Morning?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, I would, you know. No, no, not. Not like as a booked, like, but as a host. Yeah, obviously. So, yeah, there was a guy. There's a legendary Bay Area morning radio dj, Chewy Gomez. He's up there in the. In the Bay, and he, like, through a mutual friend, told him about me. He went to one of my shows, and, you know, this is like, I don't know, maybe 2007, 2008. I was already doing it for a while, and he started talking about me on the radio. So, like, a bunch of homies and family were like, yo, man, Chewy's talking about. You know, and then shortly after that, he had me on air and stuff like that. And it was funny because When I was going to school to doing a broadcasting media performance, stuff like that. Yeah, I had to take audio engineering classes and stuff like that. But he came and spoke to like one of our classes and I was like, it was like a big deal because he's like the guy, you know, he's like the, you know, big boy is the guy down here in la. Chewy's the guy up there in the bay. So I was like honored to meet him. And then, you know, fast forward, years later, he's at one of my shows and then talking about me on air and then. Yeah, yeah. So it was cool, man. Like I wanted to be, be that dude. But obviously the, you know, the, the whatever change, you know, the landscape change with the streaming and, you know, podcasts and all that stuff. So I was like. And then I just started doing. I was working at a warehouse job after I graduated. I was doing a little tech support too. It was like a startup company. And then I started hitting open mics at night and then that's when I, you know, was like, I always wanted to do stand up, though. Like, my mom and dad were die hard stand up fans. It was always music and comedy on in the house constantly to this day. So they were date. When they were dating, they would go to the Comedy Store, the Improv, the Laugh Factory, all that stuff.
Morty Coyle
So is that like Freddie Prinzera? Was that, Is that what did that register? Because when I was a kid, Freddie Prinze was the guy that got out. He was like the dude that broke out as like a Latin, you know, Latino, like male. I mean, it's a sad ending to his life.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, yeah, very sad.
Morty Coyle
But he was the dude that got the sitcom. Like. Yeah, up until that point, there was a dude on Barney Miller, like one dude. And there'd be one dude on Sanford.
Frankie Quinones
And Son and the Man.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
But Chico and the man broke out and you were like, dude, he was everything. I mean, you know him by his son now, but at the time, dude, that was, I mean, heartbreaking because if you don't know, he got into drugs and stuff and he committed suicide at his peak. Like. Yeah, he was absolute.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
It wasn't like he was still rising a little bit.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
But he broke out. He was like the dude that everybody was, I guess, would be compared to until now. And I didn't know if that had a register because they might have been younger than that, you know, or, or about the time. But I just, I don't, I don't know. I don't Know what he meant to the community that, you know, that. That felt like a kinship with him as much as seeing him. When I was a kid. Chicken. Chicken. I mean, dude, you had. You had Jose Feliciano did the. Did the.
Josh Adam Myers
The.
Morty Coyle
The. The opening title. It was everything, you know, and that dude, he was. He was the guy that like, like, gave a lot of us, you know, people that maybe didn't know the culture as much window into that. Talking about low riders, talking about the dog in the back with the head that goes like this, you know, it was something very specific about what he did that I was like, wow, what. What it must have been like to have somebody like that as a representative. You know, up until that point, they had, like, what, Jose Jimenez, like, Bill, you know, Bill Dana doing like. Like the Ed Sullivan sleepy thing, which is kind of, you know, kind of whack.
Josh Adam Myers
Was. Was. Were your parents with that, like, all that, too, Frankie?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, they were, like, with it all, to be honest. They were like. But obviously that, you know, when you see your. Your people up there on. On the screen. Yeah, obviously it's like you. You know, you're more drawn to it. But yeah, I remember them. Like, any special that came out, they were. They were on it, man, and we would, like, watch it, like, you know, focus. Like, I remember, you know, like, when Paul Rodriguez came out, too, that was like, the first one for me being young to be like, oh, he looks like me, you know, like. Like, Freddie Prinz was more my mom and dad's time.
Morty Coyle
But sure.
Frankie Quinones
But yeah, we would watch. I remember they'd let me watch Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, George Carlin. I remember when I first saw him, I was like, oh, this was making me think, you know, and even to look at my mom and dad watching them, like, you know, it was like, it was kind of cool to see that, you know, that they were like, okay, what's this guy talking about? Like, damn, he's making you think in a different way. But. But yeah, it was. Would say it was like, you know, and back then, too, there wasn't as many standups. I feel like when an HBO special came out, it was like, oh, that one's coming out. Like.
Josh Adam Myers
Well, there was like, five channels. Yeah, you had basic. You had basic. And then you had, like, you know, espn, seven other channels. And then when HBO dropped something, it was a big deal, and we all watched it, you know, and that was a beautiful thing. That was why, you know, we even the, you know, MASH being the number one watch show of all time. And no one will ever get those numbers again because there was four. There was not even. I don't know, FOX was around back then. It was cbs, NBC, and abc.
Frankie Quinones
Depressing ass mash, you know?
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, dude, go to bed. Yeah, that's. That's a guy's on his.
Morty Coyle
Everything good for kids is done.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, but I remember In Living Color was one we watched, like, religiously, dude. It was like, my mom would make sure to, like, make dinner right before and, like, all that stuff so that, you know.
Morty Coyle
But I remember the cross. I remember. And culture. Tito and Tarantulas was the band because I knew people that played with them, too, from that. For when they had their own show. And I was like, wow, that's really great that they have their own show. You know, like, for those that didn't know it, when you watch that, like, it was Latino sketch comedy. Interesting on, you know, early on. And, yeah, the band that played is the band that's in. You'll know them from. What's the After Dark. What's the Quentin Tarantino movie? The vampires.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, from Dusted Dawn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do that. They do that.
Morty Coyle
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
They play this song when Salma Hayek is. Oh, my God, I was just talking about a dude. Because that song was playing while I was buying those glasses the other day, and we started bringing that up, and I was like. He's like, yes, from Dusted On. I go, oh, trust me, I know. I'll never forget that song.
Morty Coyle
Of that era.
Josh Adam Myers
All right, so let's talk. Let's talk. Is it Jingo? Is that how we say it? Jingo? J I N G O. It's a song by Nigerian percussionist This I'm not gonna get right. Babatunde Olatuni.
Frankie Quinones
That's close.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, I didn't say the J. Featured on his first album, Drums of Passion, from 1959. In Yoruba, which is his native language, jingo means don't worry. And it came out two, 10 years before Santana's version. Yeah, this is. This is. This was the first single off of the record. And. And I can see why. I'm a little shocked because I think Evil Way is a little bit more accessible. But I think if you're going to introduce the world to Santana, I think it's a great song to do it. Thoughts on it? Anybody? Frankie, how do you feel? You love it. I mean, obviously, I know you probably.
Frankie Quinones
I love it, man. That jingle was the first song that I. That I heard with from Santana that Was like, super, like, super, like, African. Like, you know, it made me, like, just move my body and it, like, you know, I remember listening to it in my room just like, ah, just like, move my body. Crazy. To this day, it's like on my, like, workout mix, you know, just like, ah, like, let's get crazy, man. The drums just everywhere. And then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but. But, yeah, yeah. I didn't know. It wasn't until later when. When you could, like, search things on the Internet, I knew that a lot of these tracks were covers, you know? But then when you. When I would start listening to the originals, I'd be like, oh, but he.
Josh Adam Myers
Did, like, put his thing on it. He put his knees on it.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, he's on it for sure.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. I don't want to get. Well, go ahead. No, I. I was gonna say, like, people. What was that? Just say it, Morty.
Morty Coyle
I was gonna say, for a long time, we talked about this, I think with the Abraxas thing, too, which is people would just put Carlos's name on the writing credits because it was just different time. And a lot of times the original artist would be kind of like, yo, like, like, you're doing a cover of my song. I mean, I know that it didn't cross over, but so these things would get rectified years later. And they talk about that. On our practice, we were talking about how was it Tito Puente or somebody. I think it was like, Tito Puente, where he didn't get the credit in the first place. And it said Santana until years later. Then he got the credit for it, and all the money started coming in. I think Babatunde was a similar thing for a long time. It had Carlos as being the writer of the song, you know, which gets. Which happened a lot of those times. But usually it was like old Jews who would just put their name on and be like, this is how it's done.
Josh Adam Myers
I wrote Jingo Morris Levy.
Frankie Quinones
This is how Morrison came.
Josh Adam Myers
It was me and Babatunde. We were having a nice piece of fish. I mean, it's. I think we're keeping so light. I don't know if I want to ask this, but I am curious, though. You know, you're. You're in LA now, right? Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, with all the. That's going on in the world, because it's about, you know, like, do not worry. I feel like there is a more right now. There was political going on. It's. There's a lot of worrying going on. And I mean, the Latino community. It just feels like all the, that's going on in LA and New York and on all the places like the border towns. Like how affected are you, you know, as, as a Mexican American? Like are you getting with. Is it, is there like that you got to worry about or do you know people that you love that you have to be, you have to worry about?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, mostly like extended family or you're just like, you know, I mean when it first started happening, it was like so mind blowing. It was like, like, you know, and I don't know, you just feel helpless. It was like, you know, you donate and stuff like that and I'll feel good for like 45 minutes and then I just get all pissed off again because it's just like, you know, and, and then you see all these like supporters of, you know, the, the dude. Yeah, the. And. And now they're like, well, we didn't know he was gonna do all that. Like, what'd you think he was gonna do?
Josh Adam Myers
Exactly. We didn't want you to take Hector. Hector's been living here, we love him. Well, guess what? Hector's been illegal for 30 years. But he's a part of your community and he adds a lot. It's crazy. Like, yeah, just the amount of stupidity.
Frankie Quinones
The amount of trauma that you're spreading to these neighborhoods and to these families that are going to be affected. Like I had a extended relative who was huge detained in Sylmar. You know, Silmar is in the Valley and he worked at this warehouse out there and they detained him for like six hours. And he's born, born here and he's like, you know, he's like, I'm, I'm okay, but like I got these like, you know, 17, 18 year old guys that are working here that are getting with and, and they're legal and they get, you know, they let them go. But how do you think they're gonna live the rest of their lives thinking about, you know, this system or this government and all? Like you're just creating this, you know, tension and anger unnecessarily that's just going to keep growing and you know, it's just not, it's just crazy, homie. Like that's your. Yeah, that's how you're doing it. Yeah, it's like, I get it, get the criminals out and all that, but now they're going into these neighborhoods and creating all this havoc with these military vehicles and just like, it's just like what dude? Like, you know how, you know it's Just. It's. It's mind blowing. But also, I knew you. I knew it was coming. And it's like, I have friends that are like, well, you know, give them a chance. Let them cook, and da, da, da. And then I'm like, I can't even. I can't even talk to those people, you know, now, because I'm like, well, look, you let them cook, and now look, now you're all like, well, I didn't know he was gonna do that stuff. And it's just like. It's all. It's crazy because it's just like. It's just like a agenda, you know, political agenda. Here's how I need to keep power. He wants to normalize military presence so, you know, he could just take over and, you know, put in martial law whenever to take over the government for sure. Yeah, it's just like, you know, and it just sucks, man, because it's. It's. Because it's just, like, singling us out, you know?
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
And just like. And then just see people like, you know, and then everybody's like an immigrant here in the big picture of things. And. Oh, yeah, my mom's. My mom's Native. You know, my mom's Native American. My uncle's chief of our tribe, Diwas. And this is like. They're like, you know, you get providence.
Morty Coyle
This is your land before my land, for sure.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, it's. It's wild. Dude, I love our.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, I love that you said, like, it's. You don't know what you're doing to the future generations. Not. Not like, it's like the. The stain and the anger, and it's. You know, something like this will have. Will resonate for the people that. That are legal, that whatever. And seeing what they see in that community, it's this building like. Like, I don't know. I would say, like, dude, there's kids that.
Frankie Quinones
They're. They're born here. Their parents have been here for 30 years. They know no other life. They just know that. And they see that that father who's been here 30 years, working his ass off, paying taxes, get ripped away from the family. Yeah, like that. That's happening, bro, like, in. In big numbers, you know? It's just like. It's crazy. It's just like.
Josh Adam Myers
Well, he's trying to get rid of.
Morty Coyle
Birthright citizenship where you're born here. Like, you are a crazy American. You know what I mean? And not even to get political. That's constitutional, right. You're born in America, you're An American. I mean, that's just sort of. That's ingrained in the Constitution.
Josh Adam Myers
Your mom's Jewish, you're Jewish. That's the loophole. That's the loophole.
Morty Coyle
The irony is the word jingo. The word jingo itself, it means basically to have like. Like a belligerent patriotism, like an aggressive patriotism. Like, aggressive jingoism means to like. It's like the worst of patriotism. It's like going. I might use the word Nazi, but Nazi came from nationalism, meaning you are a nationalist. Over. Even over any reason. You know what I mean? You're like, america, right or wrong? Well, when you're saying America, right or wrong, you're saying it's wrong some of the time. You know what I mean? Like, this is one of those things. And as a. As an Angelino, like, Like, like Frankie, man, I. I can't tell you about any other place but here. Our entire society is based on the hard work of the people that come over here. I don't care if they're undocumented. I don't care what you call it. The entire society is absolutely hinged on it. Every restaurant, you go to a sushi restaurant, there's people, Latinos, in. In the kitchen. You go to an Israeli restaurant, a Lebanese restaurant. Somewhere in there, they're the.
Josh Adam Myers
It's got to be a race that matches their same skin color close enough. So it's got to be Lebanese, Israeli. I don't. Asian, Chinese. I'll take them out of Panda Express. I'll take it. That was a joke that. That I'm can't believe I'm quoting Ben Morrison, but he had a joke saying, you ever go to Pan Express and it's one Asian person up front at the register, and then all the people cooking is Mexican. He goes, I guess they're the Express. That's good. That's a good joke, dude.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
But. Yeah, dude, I just want to say, as an Angelina, I can't imagine a world, you know, I can't imagine a world where the kids have to look over their shoulders for no reason. I mean, they're born here, you know what I mean? Like, just detained because of the color of the skin. I mean, it's.
Frankie Quinones
It's a.
Morty Coyle
Not, you know, not to belabor the point, but it's. It's a. It's. It's incredibly disheartening, you know, it's incredibly hurtful. And I must say, Stephen Miller, because he went to San Mill, probably got his ass beat. Oh, yeah, that's What I think happened, I think he got beaten over. He went to Santa Monica High School. I bet he got. Because I went to Palms, and I remember learning about colors in the early 80s and being like, dude, don't wear it. Because, you know, break dancing. I like a bandana. And then, dude, walk up to you go, like, don't wear that bandana. And I was like, oh, oh, okay.
Frankie Quinones
Dude.
Morty Coyle
I just thought it was like him.
Frankie Quinones
You know, it was funny. It was funny because earlier Josh said, oh, your British knights. But, like, we couldn't wear those either, because those meant Blood kingdom. Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
Really?
Morty Coyle
I thought it was blood killer.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, Blood killers, too. Yeah.
Morty Coyle
Yeah, dude, I wore case Swiss. I was like, they're white.
Josh Adam Myers
We're neutral. Neutral, yeah.
Morty Coyle
Don't with them. Not even the case with colors. Not even red. White, but just white.
Josh Adam Myers
That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, just to put a button on this and move on and try to leave in a positive light. I mean, but there is, like, it's. There's ways to fight back and. And. And, you know, protect yourself and whatever anybody can do to help, you know, I think we'll get through this. I mean, history, you know, I know they say it's not progressive anymore, but, you know, I think. I think we're seeing the younger generation at least, you know, is. Is hopefully we'll. We'll rise up and, you know, we'll. We'll have some people in the future that might be. I take some time, but, you know, the imprint, the stain will be left for a moment, and. And that's unfortunate.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think we're gonna. We're gonna. We're gonna be okay. Like, I've done some charity events, and, like, you see, like, all the people that come out and then the speeches they give. You're like, all right, man. Like, we're gonna be all right. You know, it sucks, obviously, but. But, you know, it is it. You know, people are going to come together and get through this, you know, Done it before, plenty of times. So it's just like. Yeah. Because I feel, like, so helpless sometimes. My sister has to calm me down. Like, look, you're doing enough. It's okay. Like, because people like, oh, you need a postmark. That. She's like, posts aren't gonna do anything. Don't listen to those people. They're like, you know, you do your thing. You're out there, like, you know, doing your part. So that's. That's all you can do. Like, don't beat yourself up and da Da, da. Because you feel like, oh, you know, kind of guilty that I'm like, these people are going through this. I'm like, oh, well, I gotta get a flight to New Mexico. I'm filming something, you know, and it's just like. Like, you feel like, you know, I don't know, it just makes you feel some kind of way.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. But, you know, do you do it? You're doing enough. You're doing what you can raise awareness, raise money. You know, it's. It's. It's just. It is what it is. And there's. The only thing you can do is vote. That's it. And hopefully our votes still count in four years, so. Right. I guess that's all that matters. All right. Not. Not to skip over tracks, but I. Because I gotta. I got such a. I'm leaving for Europe tomorrow, and I've just got. Got, like, so much I gotta do, and I feel like I want to end it. I want to end it on. On a positive. Also, pull up the video of Santana doing Soul Sacrifice. Oh, yeah. Let's go right to Soul Sacrifice. Nothing against Persuasion. Treat or you just don't care. All great songs. Listen to the record, as we always do, but Soul Sacrifice is. Morty, you said it. This is what put him on the map. Right.
Morty Coyle
As you're pulling up this, I just want to give you guys context. So Woodstock, the movie doesn't come out till 1970. They do this in August of 1969. This record doesn't come out until like, six, seven days after Woodstock. So this is the only band on the. On the bill that doesn't have a record deal. I mean, that doesn't have a record sort of in the marketplace. Yeah, I mean, I think Crosby, Stills and Ash was like, their first gig, their big.
Josh Adam Myers
But they were all a part of something, and they were already. They were already in the ethos. And so people knew who they were individually. Usually are part of their bands, like the Hollies and.
Morty Coyle
Yeah, these.
Josh Adam Myers
Buffalo Spring break out.
Morty Coyle
Yeah, these dudes break out. Like, if you. If you talk about. Yeah, Sly in the Family Stone. These are people that have been around. If you talk about a band that, like, the movie comes out and then people are like, oh. And by the time the movie comes out, they're already on, like, I think Abraxas or Two or Three, you know, the second or third album after. But when this happens, you know, and it's also. And when you watch the video, know it's got, like, the different screens and, like, there's so much. There's pulsing rhythm and there's energy in them being on stage. And for a lot of people, you know, you can't imagine now we just think of like, oh, with the Latin rhythm. But at the time, you know, to give you an idea of context, Credence Clearwater with like a headliner there. And John was like, nah, dude, I don't really want to be filmed. And to this day, people are like, don't even think about Credence being at. At Woodstock and they were like a headliner. They think of, like Santana being on stage and this band cooking on Soul Sacrifice and just going crazy and the kids in the audience being all hippie.
Josh Adam Myers
And look.
Morty Coyle
I mean, just look at this.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, that's why it's a little.
Morty Coyle
By the way, Carlos absolutely on acid, out of his mind, trying to control his guitar because he thought it was turning into a snake.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, he thought it was a snake.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
I love that. I love it.
Morty Coyle
But I mean, look at is. Imagine this is. Not everyone doesn't have this music.
Josh Adam Myers
And those guys are beating on the wall like the monsters in Night Breed. That's a weird reference if anybody gets it, but it was app. A weird reference. Clyde Barker movie.
Morty Coyle
That dude brought a triangle. This dude came all the way from Pitsy with a triangle.
Josh Adam Myers
It's so badass. Guess if you never seen Woodstock, watch it direct directed by Martin Scorsese. I mean, it's. No, no, it was Scoot.
Morty Coyle
It was Scoon Maker, but he was one of the dudes.
Josh Adam Myers
I worked on it. Oh, okay. Well, all right. No, I think it was Scorsese.
Morty Coyle
No, no, Scorsese was like second. He.
Josh Adam Myers
Both wrong. It was Michael Wadley. He looks like a child.
Morty Coyle
Looks so young.
Josh Adam Myers
He's really young. He was. How old is he there?
Morty Coyle
I mean, I mean, I'd say probably if. If not early 20s, late teens, man.
Frankie Quinones
I think. I want to say 19, but I could be wrong.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, he's.
Morty Coyle
He's young, dude. When he died.
Frankie Quinones
Hold on.
Josh Adam Myers
He's born.
Morty Coyle
He's born in 47. So he was like, what, 20, 22.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. Oh, so Thelma. Thelma Schoonmaker edited it. Martin edited as well. And he. He was a second. He was an. They were both assistant directors.
Morty Coyle
And she's.
Josh Adam Myers
That.
Morty Coyle
She's his face.
Josh Adam Myers
Look at that afro, dude. That is a. That is a code red Kagan afro.
Morty Coyle
I mean, but look at them cooking. And you got to imagine, you know, the audience is there to see, like, the who and the day.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, right.
Morty Coyle
Credence And. And then these guys come out and this would be considered exotic to a lot of people. I mean, dude, just that they move this crowd and they really are one of the breakouts of this live. The energy. Because there's nobody that can. I mean, Sly is amazing when you watch that. But, dude, look at this.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
I mean, and by the way, white drummer. You know, like, you're like, what?
Josh Adam Myers
It's so weird. He's also. Could be trans. Really? Has no male or female characteristics from the trans tent. The transition on drums. Wow. I mean, just look at that. I want to send this clip to Burr right now. I think Bill would get a kick out of watching this right now. Yeah, he'd love this. It's really cool.
Morty Coyle
And I'm wondering what everyone else is wondering because, like, there it is, dude.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, that comes back in the sg. There's the. There's the Indian. Who's that record producer guy. God damn it. My brain's not fast sometimes. Who's the guy that. Rick. Rick Rubin. Do you see him? The Mexican Rick Rubin?
Morty Coyle
Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
Not him. That's. That's how I would.
Morty Coyle
By the way, Rick. Greg Raleigh on the Hammond organ with the Leslie speaker behind him.
Josh Adam Myers
That's that the drummer. The drummer actually looks like Zelda from Pet Sematary, if you remember that reference. Remember the woman that's in bed? She's like, feed me round. There's. There's the Latino Little Richard. I could do this all day. Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Big horror movie references today.
Josh Adam Myers
This is.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
Ricardo Pequena.
Josh Adam Myers
I think he's being Chinese. He's making a Chinese racist face. Like it's a little. That's what happens when you trip. You know what I mean?
Morty Coyle
You remember that he's on acid right now. And by the way, this is a really huge compliment. People used to say that Prince. When they said to Prince, they said, yo. You're like. They always compared it to Jimi Hendrix. And Prince was like, nah, dude. If there's anybody that I'm more like, it's Carlos Santana. That's how he described his own guitar playing. Because then people just said Jimi Hendrix because it was like, black. And they figured he looked a little like. He's like, no, my actual guitar playing style is more like Carlos.
Josh Adam Myers
Are they all on drugs?
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, they're all Tripp. I mean, they all. Yeah.
Morty Coyle
He thinks his organ's a turtle and he thinks his thing's a snake.
Josh Adam Myers
They're all on.
Morty Coyle
They're all having journeys. They're all on ayahuasca journey I love.
Josh Adam Myers
This so much, dude, but look how bad ass.
Morty Coyle
You know, that's the thing I think about is like, what people thought when they heard this for the first time without context of. Of Latin rhythms, you know what I mean? Of just taking over. Like, because it's all about dancing and free and moving, man. This is, you know, and it's soul sacrifice.
Josh Adam Myers
I mean, it's.
Frankie Quinones
Dude.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. Even.
Morty Coyle
And you, Frankie, you and I went to see like a house dj.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
And we went to go see that. There's a lot to be said about that. Absolute, uncompromising, relentless. It doesn't stop. The rhythm keeps going. It's just. It's just an excuse to dance and be alive, you know? And that's. You know. We saw Miguel, right?
Frankie Quinones
Yep.
Morty Coyle
Is that. Yeah, that's what we saw. When I'm like, yeah, and I saw you dancing and I was like, oh, I get it.
Josh Adam Myers
I get this.
Morty Coyle
No, but it's like, because, you know, house music derives from black and Asian gay culture a lot of the time in Chicago. And I think about just that absolute. We are here to dance.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
We're not making. We're not like, we are getting something out of this.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah. We're not here to know, so. Right.
Morty Coyle
This is absolutely. We are here for this experience. We're not making. And you know, and jt, you have that same thing in Ibiza, where you're really in the. In the dance culture of that. So much of it comes from the polyrhythmic stuff of Latin, Afro Cuban music.
Frankie Quinones
Hey, you said it. You said it, right? Ibiza.
Morty Coyle
Yeah. It just does not.
Josh Adam Myers
I looked it up too.
Frankie Quinones
This album was number. It was the number one album in Spain.
Josh Adam Myers
It hit number one in no other.
Morty Coyle
Country when it came.
Frankie Quinones
Really. First Santana album. Wow.
Morty Coyle
It hit number one.
Frankie Quinones
I was like, oh, that's cool. Spain recognized guys early. Yeah, that's dope.
Josh Adam Myers
I wanna.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah. And I know. I know I said this on the last. When we did a Braxis, but my first ever concert, I was 14 years old and I went and saw Santana at the Greek Theater and War War open for him. Oh, yeah, la.
Morty Coyle
That's an LA version.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, dude.
Morty Coyle
That's the LA band.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
Look at that.
Morty Coyle
Spanish albums chart.
Josh Adam Myers
Number one.
Morty Coyle
We got number four in the us. I mean, dude, to get the four on your debut album.
Frankie Quinones
Album.
Morty Coyle
That's the first album right handed. Yeah. By the way, he is. Santana as a band is one of the biggest selling. There's like 47 million or 48 million sold. They are one of the big this is like obviously with you take the later record. But when you look at him, he's, he's one of the biggest selling, you know, artists. You know, this is a leg, this is not just like a legacy based. And not a lot of people could say they got a chance to sort of have a late in their career sort of resurgence to the point. And also health, health and good vibes to Carlos.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
Because he's been going through some stuff lately.
Josh Adam Myers
You know when you, yeah. Definitely go see him or anybody. Yeah, see we know that we say that all the time. Go see everybody, man. Do not wait for time. I had a question, but I gotta wrap this up guys, because I gotta get somewhere. I, I, dude, Frankie, I, I, I, come on, for something other than Santana, please give you, let's give you some real white people. And then. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like you're coming like rainbows, lollipops and coes doodly do.
Morty Coyle
I.
Josh Adam Myers
But I'm dude. And I mean this, Frankie, I mean this. I, I, I love you man. I, you know, I'm always rooting for you. I love the success that you're getting and, and it's, it just makes so many of us happy to see you succeed. And you know, I know this next year is going to be so great when that special drops, dude, it is going to be so good for you. And then just, you know, keep doing what you're doing. You're doing everything great. You look great. You know what I mean? I love that you showed up in a tank top. We're all. Dude, it's hot as everywhere right now. It's 97 degrees.
Morty Coyle
Like I'm not pulling the guns. Everybody here is like has their guns out.
Josh Adam Myers
I'm sitting here going, I look like.
Morty Coyle
I look like I'm going to church.
Josh Adam Myers
Morty's.
Morty Coyle
Morty's five coming out.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, the mirror.
Morty Coyle
So I just want to know because we talked about right before you recorded it and you were like, oh, I'm about to do this new special.
Josh Adam Myers
And then you're like, yeah, when's it come out? Like when, when does it drop? I know it's going to be on Hulu Ali Wong's produce.
Frankie Quinones
October, October, October. I think October 18th is a lose date, but definitely in October. Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll make sure we, that's crazy.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, we'll make sure we promote it. We'll put it on and put like maybe an ad in to slip that in right on the release date. We'll give you a shout out because, you know. You know, it was funny. You were like. You. You asked me. You were like, be kind of thing in October. And I was, like, looking over what we got. Hold on. I just want to, like, look, and I'll make a joke about this, because I was like, yeah, I don't think. I think. Let's get him on. Santana. No, dude, it's white. It is. It is Christmas in October. Well, we did it. We did. We have the Meters, we have Blondie, but we actually have. I'm not gonna drop who we have. We have hooked up to Dream. He could have done Dr. Dre, sure. But I. Dude, that's. It is LA. But, dude, I feel like, you know, and not to be, like, race with person. It's like. We have NWA Coming out, and they were wanting us to get that. That. That comedic actor Ike Barna Howitz. And I was like, it just feels. This is. I want somebody that was of an age during that time. You know what I mean? Because when the police is said and you live in LA or you live in Chicago or you live in New York, that means something to you. And I'd like to get that perspective. And I think just, you know, I've had. Had, you know, having Santino want to do the fugees, that makes sense. Having a black guy on for NWA that makes sense. And I think with Dr. Dre, you could have done Dre. But I also think, like, we had, like, the Replacements. I don't think that would have worked. Elton John, maybe.
Frankie Quinones
Perfect.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah. But either way. Either way, you're coming back. We've got more. I love you to death. Let's do final questions and get you out of here, buddy. Favorite song on this album.
Frankie Quinones
Them. Soul Sacrifice.
Josh Adam Myers
Nice. Anything you skip over?
Frankie Quinones
Not really, man. Because I think the album does a good job of taking you on a journey, but it does. Yeah. I don't know, man. I guess maybe if I had to maybe treat. But I still love that song, too.
Josh Adam Myers
I mean, it's a no, Skipper. It's a no Skipper. You don't. You don't even. You don't even know you're going into the next song sometimes. And that's what's beautiful about it. It all flows. The sequencing's great. Whoever. Big shout out to everybody involved, from the engineer to the producer. It's a great album. Can you fuck to this record?
Frankie Quinones
Fuck, yeah.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, you can.
Morty Coyle
This is.
Josh Adam Myers
This is not.
Frankie Quinones
I am around the evil ways right out of that high.
Josh Adam Myers
Not like, yeah, dude, it's like, we've had some records up where it's just like, you know, like Bruce Springsteen. You can't. Fucking Led Zeppelin, I think. I think Bill said you can fuck to it, but also like, you know, fucking Jefferson Airplane. You know, Know when the truth is right, it's a little, A little too intense.
Frankie Quinones
Okay, we're really getting going here, honey.
Josh Adam Myers
And then we have, coming up, we have Dr. John. Jesus Christ, man. Dude, you get on this list, Bruce Springsteen. Boom. Santana, Boom. Led Zeppelin. Boom. Crazy Still Dash Young. Boom. Jefferson airplane, Steely Dan, NWA, Dr. John and the Night Tripper. Who gives a. Like, damn it. I'm already. Don't, don't join in. Do not say anything. It's a good one. I bet it's great. I bet it's great. Phil Spector, a Christmas gift for you from Phil Spector. That's great.
Morty Coyle
That's huge. All right, well, that's a huge. That's a huge record. That's just a huge record. Because it's one of those ones that everybody had.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
Because of that.
Josh Adam Myers
Sure.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah.
Morty Coyle
Like I said, we'll go over it.
Josh Adam Myers
We'll go over.
Morty Coyle
It happened once they added Black Predict.
Josh Adam Myers
We'll go.
Morty Coyle
What happened once they added people with like, when they added, like.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, they didn't make it.
Morty Coyle
It that the newer ones.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, sure, sure. They replaced it with nine Drake albums. Oh, I'm not even going to get into the argument that I had with it. I had an argument with a 25 year old. I'm not going to even get into it because it just pissed me off. But he said, old music sucks because it's old. New music's better because it's new. And he said, would you. Yeah. Would you rather have a. An iPhone One or a brand new iPhone? I go, dude, you can't say A Tribe Called Quest, Low End Theory. That's. That's a brand new iPhone. To me, that's a perfect album. It's like, it's. That's better than anything. That's. That's, that's. That's actually an album. That's. That's a phone. That's like 25 phones from now. That's how ahead of its time it is. But that's a different discussion. Last question. How do you get someone to listen to this record that's never listened to it before? What would you say to them? How do you pitch this album and sum it up to get somebody to dig on it?
Frankie Quinones
Get somebody to dig on it that's never listened to it or Just what's.
Josh Adam Myers
The steez of this record, dude, let's stay on that term. What's the skis?
Frankie Quinones
I don't. It's just rock with African drums. Grooves, Latin grooves. Yeah. It just takes you on a journey. When's it. I mean, I would be like, when's the last time you listened to a whole album all the way through that you felt genuinely like. Took you on a journey where you didn't have to skip any tracks and it made you feel some kind of way they might be like, well, you know, and. Okay, well, listen to this album then.
Josh Adam Myers
I love that. I. I don't think. I think that's a perfect way to say it. It's just like. It's just. This is music of the world in. In almost just one man speaking through an instrument and taking you on a journey. It's. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing. I'm so glad I. Hopefully we have another Santana record coming up. We all. Let's get. Not. Not. We'll get Frankie on, but let's get him something else. Like we said. Either way, I love you. I'm so happy you came. I'm so glad this worked out, man. And I'm glad this was the last episode before I leave for Europe. Promote away. Frankie, I know we talked about the special, but where can everybody find you? And. And you know this. This fool on Hulu, it's still there, right?
Frankie Quinones
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Well, thanks for having me, man. I'm sorry. It took me 25 minutes to find some cords, but.
Morty Coyle
Well, you did go to audio to school and work as a tech.
Josh Adam Myers
You did. Yeah, yeah, nice one.
Morty Coyle
He said that. I was like, I went to audio school and I worked as a. I.
Frankie Quinones
Was like, clearly can't even find a one cordage. But yeah, dude. But real quick thing. The. My. My James Barsodi was one of my main professors there and he had a. He bought the. The analog mixer that was used to do the. The soundtrack for Apocalypto because it was all done on analog, which was dope. Just wanted to drop that in there. But yeah, yeah, this full. It's on Hulu. Get my special called. Damn, that's crazy. We dropping in October on Hulu or Disney plus if you're outside of the United States. And yeah, man, go to check out the Dress Up Gang. You check me out at Frankie Quinones, frankiekinones.com or Cholo Fit Creeper. Yeah, yeah, I think that's. That's about it, man. I'll be on the new season of St. Denis Medical.
Josh Adam Myers
Nice.
Frankie Quinones
Coming out soon. Yeah, and then. Yeah, and then we got the new Dress Up Gang movie. Plant man and Blondie coming out early next year. So check it out.
Josh Adam Myers
We'll promote the out of it. You know that. Morty, why don't you give your little shout out? You gotta, first of all, somebody to thank. Somebody died probably. You gotta.
Morty Coyle
Wait, hold on. Tom Lehrer died.
Josh Adam Myers
No. Jesus.
Morty Coyle
Yesterday. Who was one of the great. No, but hold on. One of the greatest. One of the greatest writers. Singers, comedic. He's probably known as a paradise and a satirist. But if get a chance, listen to Tom Lehrer. Look him up. L E H E R E R An incredible. He was in his 90s, but one of the greatest writers. Once you look him up, you'll be like, I know that he was a voice on. On one segment of the Electric Company. I gotta say, I'm really looking forward to Young and Sick doing this cover because this.
Josh Adam Myers
Oh, yeah, I should send it to him now. I should send it to him now.
Morty Coyle
I can't wait to see them put Frankie in it as the Lion.
Josh Adam Myers
I just hope he does. I hope he just doesn't put. I think. I think when it's a good record like this, when he can have more fun with. I think is when he's like. But I'll get it into him now because I know.
Morty Coyle
I'm just gonna say, just find me on. Yeah, find me on the DJ Morty Coil on the, you know, on the. The things that aren't, you know, owned by fascists. And then, you know, I'm around, which is nothing anymore, but you'll find me around there and check out Being Daddy cartoons. That shit's blowing up on Tick Tock. I don't know what's going on. And then hopefully. Frankie, I see you soon, my man.
Frankie Quinones
Yes, sir.
Josh Adam Myers
Love it. And Jeremiah, I'll see you in Spain.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, I love a visa.
Morty Coyle
Santana went to number one.
Josh Adam Myers
You've been before, Frankie?
Frankie Quinones
Yes, dude. A dj, A homie of mine, DJ sneak hired me to go out there and. Yeah, dude, his neighbor. Sorry, real quick. It was his neighbor because he. He lived more like in a ranch, like inland. He was. He stays there for three months out of the year.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah.
Frankie Quinones
And you know, so you're kind of like. And his neighbor was this old door guy and he said Freddie Mercury would hire him every year to work the door at this, like, big old house that he would rent. And he said, dude, for one month every year, he's telling Me and, you know, the Spanish, I could barely understand. But he's like that. That Freddie would just get after it. And he would just.
Josh Adam Myers
Every dude.
Morty Coyle
That dude was open.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, girl, girl, guys, whatever, dude. And then he would go back to work like after. But he would do for one month every year.
Josh Adam Myers
But also texted Josh, I was like.
Frankie Quinones
We have to go to Freddie Mercury's.
Morty Coyle
Like, house or whatever.
Josh Adam Myers
Nice.
Frankie Quinones
I don't know if you can go in or. Or what the deal is, but yeah, you just.
Josh Adam Myers
But also, also everybody, he died of aids, so protect yourself. Okay? Everything that moves, be careful. Okay?
Morty Coyle
I just read that they might have a cure for hiv. I just read they basically.
Josh Adam Myers
It's called.
Frankie Quinones
Yeah, they pretty much do, man. They got to take one pill every morning.
Josh Adam Myers
Yeah, dude, it used to be like, oh, no, no. They're saying now it's one.
Morty Coyle
No, they're saying not a cocktail. They're saying they might have finally figured out.
Josh Adam Myers
You sound like my mom. My mom's gonna send that to me in an article from like News Week. CK LY 74. You know my mom does that. I gotta split, guys. Frankie, I love you. Thank you so much for coming on, brother jt. Appreciate it, Morty.
Morty Coyle
All the best, guys.
Josh Adam Myers
What I tell you? What did I tell you? The one and only Frankie Quinones. Follow him on all social media at Frankie quinones. Go to Frankie kinones.com for all his fall tour and check out his special in October, all on Hulu. Now we just listened to Santana's self titled debut record for a new music pick this week brought to you in part by Distro Kid Is Willie and the Hand Jive by Azo Motley. You can find links to their music on the website the500podcast.com and if you were in a band and were directly influenced by one of these albums artists and you want your music featured on the 500 podcast, send your song to 500podcastgmail.com. Make sure you put the album and artists that influenced you in the subject line. Next week it's Led Zeppelin week as we go deep into 1973's Houses of the Holy do your homework skadoodly doo stay fleecy I know a goddam way you got a cool little tick named rockin Billy did you walk and st and do that crazy handshake too? Papa don't will and you'll ruin my home you and that hand drive's gotta go well he said probably don't put me down been doing that I drive all over town Hatch I Hand job, hand job. Doing that crazy hand job. Mama, Mama, look at Uncle Joe. Look at him. He's doing a hand job with sister Flow he began baby sister of D. Hey, hey. Say, do that hand job one more time. Well, a doctor and a lawyer and a native chief they all take that crazy feet way up in the gave them all a treat. Yeah, when he did that, I died with his feet bad Jock hand, jock hand Jug going that crazy Got married last fall. They got a little Willy jelly around that he know you know that baby got greatness in his plain sea Doing that hand job on tv. Come on. Hand job, hand job. Do not risk Hand job, hand job. And do not crazy Sam. Yeah. The 500. Keeping it flee See for the Fleece nation on the the 500. The 500 this Friday, starring Taran Edgerton. All dangerous men are coming for us. I want you to be brave. Can you do that for me? All her father needs is a flower. Fighting chance. Everybody is looking for you. What did you do? I'll keep you safe.
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Promise.
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Podcast Summary: The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers – Episode 149: Santana – Self Titled with Frankie Quinones
Release Date: July 30, 2025
Host: Josh Adam Meyers
Guest: Frankie Quinones
Episode Focus: Rolling Stone Magazine’s 500 Greatest Albums of All Time – Santana's Self-Titled Debut Album
The episode kicks off with host Josh Adam Meyers welcoming listeners and introducing comedian Frankie Quinones as the special guest. Frankie, known for his role as Creeper in Hulu's This Fool, brings humor and cultural insights to the discussion about Santana's debut album.
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Frankie shares his current endeavors, including performing in England and upcoming shows in various cities. He discusses his background in comedy, his roles in This Fool, and his upcoming special on Hulu produced by Ali Wong.
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The hosts transition into discussing Santana's self-titled debut album, highlighting its significance in Latin rock and psychedelic music. Frankie expresses his admiration for Santana, noting the band's multicultural composition and the album's impact on his own musical tastes.
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Album Cover Art: Frankie describes the iconic cover art, featuring a lion and multiple faces, and shares his personal connection by having a tattoo of it.
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Band Composition: Discussion about the multicultural makeup of Santana's band, emphasizing the inclusion of Latin rhythms without being labeled strictly as Latin rock.
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Release Timing and Woodstock: The album was released shortly after Santana's performance at Woodstock, which played a crucial role in catapulting the band into fame despite not having a record deal at the time.
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1. "Evil Ways"
Recognized as Santana's breakthrough hit, blending rock with Latin grooves. Frankie reminisces about hearing it in his parents' living room, highlighting its lasting appeal.
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2. "Waiting"
An instrumental opener that sets the album's tone with its percussion energy. Frankie connects it to his personal experiences working at a hardware store, illustrating how the song's rhythm resonates with everyday life.
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3. "Jingo"
A cover of Babatunde Olatunji's song, Santana's version introduces African percussion into rock music, showcasing the band's innovative fusion of styles.
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Frankie and Josh discuss Santana's role in bridging cultural gaps through music, emphasizing the band's ability to incorporate diverse influences while maintaining a unique sound. They explore how Santana's music opened doors for Latino and multicultural representation in rock music.
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Frankie shares a memorable story of encountering Santana live at Golden Gate Park, highlighting the personal impact Carlos Santana had on him and his family. This anecdote underscores Santana's authentic presence and influence on aspiring artists.
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As the discussion wraps up, the hosts reflect on the enduring legacy of Santana's debut album. Frankie praises the album's seamless flow and ability to take listeners on a musical journey without the need to skip tracks. They also briefly touch on upcoming episodes focused on other legendary artists.
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Josh expresses gratitude towards Frankie for his insights and encourages listeners to explore Santana's debut album. The episode concludes with promotional mentions for upcoming content and Frankie Quinones' ongoing projects.
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