169 - Bob Marley & The Wailers - Exodus - Ian Edwards

Summary

The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers – Episode 169 Summary: Bob Marley & The Wailers - Exodus with Ian Edwards

Release Date: March 12, 2025

In Episode 169 of The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers, host Josh Adam Meyers sits down with comedian and actor Ian Edwards to delve deep into Bob Marley & The Wailers' iconic album, Exodus. This episode, ranked at number 169 out of Rolling Stone Magazine’s 500 Greatest Albums of All Time, offers a rich exploration of the album’s enduring legacy, its cultural significance, and personal anecdotes from Ian’s life intertwined with Marley’s music.

Introduction to the Episode

Josh introduces Ian Edwards, highlighting his work in the acclaimed film Tangerine and his Comedy Central stand-up special. Ian, born in England and raised in Jamaica, brings a unique perspective to the discussion, having grown up immersed in Jamaican culture and Marley’s music.

Ian Edwards’s Connection to Bob Marley

[00:01] Josh Adam Myers: "This, I think, if you're talking about a greatest hits record, it's got a lot of songs from his greatest hits on it."

Ian shares his personal connection to Exodus, emphasizing its status as a definitive Marley album. He recounts growing up in Jamaica, surrounded by Marley's music, which was a constant presence in his household.

Ian Edwards: "Bob Marley or reggae music, especially Bob's music is some of the most easily listenable music. It's just perfect. It makes you feel good." [23:40]

The Significance of Exodus

Josh and Ian discuss Exodus’s place in music history, noting its blend of reggae with rock and other modern genres. The album’s themes of change, religion, politics, and sexuality mark a departure from Marley’s earlier works, offering a more cohesive and profound narrative.

Josh Adam Myers: "Natural mystic was very current because he couldn't believe he was still alive." [47:01]

Ian Edwards: "Natural mystic was one of his most iconic songs. It sets the mood of this record." [52:53]

Personal Anecdotes and Experiences

Ian shares humorous and intense experiences from his life, including encounters with violence in reggae clubs, which parallel the intense emotions conveyed in Marley's Exodus. These stories highlight the raw and authentic atmosphere that Marley’s music often captures.

Ian Edwards: "There's this reggae club, Nakasaki in Long Island, and a shootout happened right in the parking lot. It was chaotic." [50:13]

Rastafarianism and Bob Marley’s Influence

The conversation delves into Rastafarian beliefs and how they influenced Marley's music and life. Ian explains the spiritual aspects of Rastafarianism, including the significance of dreadlocks and the movement’s emphasis on African consciousness.

Ian Edwards: "The Rastafarians see Marley as the second coming of Jesus. He was the first African king to defeat a European power." [37:38]

Discussion on Key Tracks

Natural Mystic

Opening the album, Natural Mystic reflects Marley’s brush with death and his spiritual resilience.

Waiting in Vain

A poignant love song that Ian believes reflects Marley's personal life, particularly his relationship with his wife Rita.

Jamming

Ian describes this track as the quintessential Bob Marley song, embodying positivity and unity.

Three Little Birds

An anthem of reassurance, inspired by real-life birds that frequented Marley’s porch, symbolizing hope and peace.

Bob Marley’s Legacy and Personal Impact

Josh and Ian reflect on Marley’s lasting impact on music and culture. They discuss how Marley's messages of resistance, love, and unity remain relevant today, resonating across generations and cultures.

Josh Adam Myers: "If you want to be transported to a different time and a different culture, but still get hit by something that you can relate to, now listen to Exodus." [89:59]

Ian Edwards: "Songs like Three Little Birds and One Love are timeless. They carry powerful messages that still speak to people today." [86:46]

Final Thoughts and Reflections

As the episode wraps up, Josh and Ian emphasize the enduring power of Exodus and Bob Marley’s music. They underscore the album’s ability to convey deep emotional and social messages while maintaining an infectious rhythm and melody that continue to inspire listeners worldwide.

Josh Adam Myers: "Exodus is not just an album; it's a movement. It’s about staying strong and not letting the system get you down." [54:57]

Ian Edwards: "Bob Marley’s music is like a breath of fresh air. It’s revolutionary, yet so relatable." [77:32]

Conclusion

Episode 169 offers a comprehensive and heartfelt exploration of Exodus, enriched by Ian Edwards’s personal insights and experiences. Listeners gain a deeper appreciation for Bob Marley’s masterpiece, understanding its historical context, lyrical depth, and timeless appeal. Whether you are a long-time Marley fan or new to his music, this episode provides valuable perspectives that highlight why Exodus remains a pivotal album in music history.

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Notable Quotes:

• Ian Edwards: "Bob Marley or reggae music, especially Bob's music is some of the most easily listenable music. It's just perfect. It makes you feel good." [23:40]
• Josh Adam Myers: "Natural mystic was very current because he couldn't believe he was still alive." [47:01]
• Ian Edwards: "Natural mystic was one of his most iconic songs. It sets the mood of this record." [52:53]
• Ian Edwards: "Bob Marley’s music is like a breath of fresh air. It’s revolutionary, yet so relatable." [77:32]
• Josh Adam Myers: "Exodus is not just an album; it's a movement. It’s about staying strong and not letting the system get you down." [54:57]

This detailed exploration ensures that both Bob Marley enthusiasts and newcomers can fully grasp the profound impact of Exodus and appreciate the nuanced discussions between Josh and Ian.

Transcript

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[Ian Edwards]

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[Ian Edwards]

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[Ian Edwards]

This show is brought to you by Distro Kid. Bring your music to the masses. The 500 the 500 JM been walking us down through that 2012 edition so it ain't nothing to you. Hundreds more to go and in need of a friend. The King of peaceful angelo. Talking the 500 until the end Talking the 500 until the end with my men on the 500 Talking the 500 until the end that is Exodus is by Bob Marley in the whalers from the 1977 record of the same name. It's also number 169 out of 500 on the 500 with Josh Adam Myers. What is up party people? Fleece Army? How we Living? Welcome to the only podcast where a comedian is going through Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums from 500 down to 1. We are chipping away, man. We are getting there and we are having so much fun. Are you guys listening to the Patreon? Because Master Fleece Theater to the subscribers of Patreon is a podcast with me, DJ Morty Coyle and our number one guest Wayne Fetty Wap Fetterman. And it's just talking music. Our favorite albums that aren't on the list, our favorite concerts we could have gone to, favorite concerts we have gone to. It's a wide variety of topics. It's more of what you love about the 500 and it's only on our Patreon. So patreon.com backslash the 500 podcast subscribe. It's worth it. $5 gets you the podcast and gets you to support the show. And for $25 a month you get some really cool merch patreon.com backslash the 500 podcast. I mean it. I'm having a really good time recording these with Wayne and Morty. I don't know if we're gonna release them to the public. Public. I want to because they're so good. But we want you to subscribe to the Patreon because we really need more money. Guys, I don't mean to say it like that, but it's like if you love the show and you listen, help us support the show. $5, 25, $10, whatever you can afford. It really helps. Patreon.com backslash the 500 podcast. I mean, we have so much fun stuff to talk about and I really think you guys would dig it if you love the podcast. So I am on the road this weekend. I'm at Laughing tap in Milwaukee, Wisconsin March 14th and 15th. Then the 16th and 17th I'll be at the Comedy Store doing the Jam and Shimmy in April. I'm going to be in Las Vegas the 11th and the 12th. Then I will be at Moontower Comedy Festival in Austin. And then on top of that we'll be in Los Angeles again. And then I've got Vancouver, Plano, Texas. We got Vegas again. I've got Sunnyvale, California. Josh Adamyers.com for tickets or go to OSH. Adam Myers on all social media and you'll see me promoting. Support me. I'm a really fun show. Would love to see you guys out on the road. Come on everybody. It's a time you deserve it. Why not? Let's have some fun. Come to a show. Come say hi to your boy Joshua. All right, Bob Marley. This is our second time talking about him. And let me tell you guys something. This record is hands down, this is the one. This, I think this, if you're talking about a greatest hits record, it's got a lot of songs from his greatest hits on it. And so for our guest today, why not get somebody that grew up with this album, a brilliant stand up comic, the one and only Ian Edwards. You know Ian from his movie Tangerine from his standup special on Comedy Central. He is one of my favorite comedians and born in England, grew up in Jamaica. So this was a very special record, an episode for him, raid review and most importantly, subscribe to the 500 listen free on all platforms or anywhere you get your pods. Leave us a five star rating. It really does help. Follow me at Josh Adam Myers on all social media. Follow the podcast at the 500 podcast. Email the [e-mail] Follow the Facebook group run by Crazy Evan. And for all things 5 00, go to our website, the500podcast.com. Well, not left to say, but here we go with number 169 out of 500 with Bob Marley and the Whalers. Exodus. I know you. You know music, so I, you know that guy Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots, that band?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. I don't know names.

[Ian Edwards]

So he was the lead singer. And I was watching, like, old videos of, of, of them. Well, I did Blonde because of that. And then I was watching other videos and he had, like, pink hair, and I was just like, dude, it. And I, Dude, I could do anything. I can do anything that you desire.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Single.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How's this, how's the response of the pink hair with the ladies? Just out of curiosity.

[Ian Edwards]

Love it. I, I, you know, E, I. So when I colored my hair blonde, you know, all women were like, Were like, yes. To the point where I was at. I was at a festival and I ran into Big J's manager. God damn, I can't think. Adam Genovesen. And these group of girls were like, oh, my God, we love your hair. Let's look so great. Oh, my God. And then he was like, I don't like it. And the girls looked at him like, are you nuts? And when I did the pink, it's basically been the same reaction. I, I don't know. I mean, at a certain point, yeah, it doesn't look, it doesn't look bad.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, it stands out, you know?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah, it does stand out. And, dude, I miss you, brother.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Does. I miss you too, man. Does the, the carpet match the drapes? Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, I did, I did. When I, when I would color my beard or I, you know, I, I, I touch up the little nut here.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That would have been fire, bro.

[Ian Edwards]

Sometimes, Sometimes when I have a little extra, I do kind of like, you know, youthify my penis.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

And I've done. I'm. Dude, it's, it's, it sticks around a lot longer than. Because for some reason. And this is the thing about, like, body hair. Body hair just hits a point and it stops growing. But your facial hair and your head hair keeps growing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Speak for yourself. About, bro, you got that longy, Got that long, bald head.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, that. Dude, you always have one hair. You'll have that one hair that, like, you, you'll see that just that out of the pack is just like it's got for. It's just reaching for the sun. Like, it just keeps trying to grow. But yeah, dude, it's. It's. It's. It's definitely like, when it comes to the. To the head hair, it's like, I think at a point in my career, I was like, I can pretty much do anything. And. And I've auditioned with it and. And. And gotten a call back on something. I didn't book it, but I think you have headshots of just the way that I normally look. So it just doesn't. It's not getting in the way of anything yet. You know what I mean?

[Josh Adam Myers]

It looks good. Keep it up.

[Ian Edwards]

Thank you. How long have you been shaving your head for? You had dreads, right? I remember that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. I went from one extreme to the next. Just, I. I lost track, bro. It wasn't like, something, you know, Maybe I. Maybe I have it written down somewhere, but not on my. That was like, four phones ago.

[Ian Edwards]

You judge everything by phones?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah. At least my phone to. Gosh.

[Ian Edwards]

I'm g. Start doing that, man. That was age ago. That was Motorola Razor back in the day. Dude, you're our go to. You're our go to. Reggae, Jamaican dude, you've. We reached out to you for the Last Bob Marley 1. You've done toots in the Mays. So. Great album. Yeah, this. So when this one came up, I was like, you know, I was like, we gotta ask in. We gotta ask in.

[Josh Adam Myers]

What number is this in the 500J?

[Ian Edwards]

What number is that? 46. 146. Wait, 169. Sorry. 169.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Well, this. This record before we. Because I want to. I want to. Because I'm actually curious. I haven't talked to you in a minute. This record actually is. Is. Has been voted in 1999. Time magazine said it was the best album of the 20th century. So I think this is, you know, I know Legend, Jared. Check all this math. I know Legend is coming up. Like, I know we've got Legend eventually because, like, that's like, you know, which is so funny because I. This is basically. Aside from a couple songs on it, this is like, everything from his greatest hits record is on here. But, yeah, legend is 46. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. But before we even get into the album, what do you got going on? Like, what are you working on? What have you been doing? Like, you know, promote away. I miss you. But, like, you know, are you writing on something right now or what's going on?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, I wrote on a show last year that's about to be on Netflix this month. Is called Survival of the Thickest, and it's a scripted half hour comedy with Michelle Bhutto. Yeah, so that's coming out. I'm a producer on that, and I just shot a special, so it'll be out hopefully next month or the month after if I could line up the podcast to promote it. Yeah, so I've got that coming out. And just follow me on Instagram at Ian Edwards comic, and you can check out my dates. You know what I mean?

[Ian Edwards]

You're one of the funniest guys. You know, you've always been one of my favorite comics. You know that I. How much I love you. And still Jeremiah, to this day, one of the hardest I've ever laughed. I bring this up to you all the time is when I. Early on in my standup career, Jer, like, I, you know, Bobby Lee, when I met him was like, you need to hang out at the Comedy Store. And so I. I think I had done like a grip of open mics, but I go to the Comedy Store. I'm working at a restaurant gig on new on 4th of July. I leave and I go to the Comedy Store. And this is Jeremiah. You don't understand the Comedy Store at one point, when I started in 2008, and Ian, you. You. Because I know you had been there for a while already. Like, it was a ghostland, right? Like 2008, right around. You're talking empty, bro. This compared to, like, the Rogan years, where it was the hardest ticket to get in town. Yeah, but it's dead. As there's three people maybe in the audience, and one of them is this drunk older guy. And Tripoli is on, and he's a crowd work. You could call it that. But just arguing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

This is.

[Ian Edwards]

It's such a light audience, Jeremiah, that you can just. You. You know what I mean? The crowd work is just basically talking and he's arguing with this guy. It's so uncomfortable. And. And. And he gets off, and then you have to go on after him. And you're such a great joke writer that you're getting the laughs. But it's like, it's such a. It's such an awkward experience post Tripoli set that the laughter's like, just real, like, under the thing. And then to end the set, I. I never forget it. You were like, so I guess I'll do my closer in a normal show. No, no, I didn't say closer. You said in a normal show, I would use this to close and. Because it would be able to get laughter. But here, like, it was Just such a. It was.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That sounds like I just bombed, which is cool.

[Ian Edwards]

No, no, no, no, dude, everybody like you. There's way that you could do well in that show, but you just. It was so great, man. And it was also one of my, like seeing somebody you just. Because it's like when you're doing standup, it's about 90% of it is not giving a. And just. And just being confident. And you were just like. You knew the situation. You knew it was a no win situation, and you just stayed in the pocket. You did your 15 minutes to get your 30 bucks.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But wait a minute, they were paying that much.

[Ian Edwards]

Was it 15 back then? Wait, was it 15?

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's probably 15, bro.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. So it was like, for doing this dude 15 minutes for his 15 bucks. And. But it was also like, for me.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I do the minutes for the minutes just to become a better comic. Like. Like, at 15 bucks, like, you lose money at the comedy store, you give the 15 bucks to the parking lot guys.

[Ian Edwards]

But it was so great just to see what really watching somebody just not give a shit and. And just be like, this is it. I'm doing my thing. Because you're a young comic, you're always so nervous and you're so excited. And if I would have been in that situation, I would have been like you. Like, this is so important. And you just being like. You knew that it meant nothing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, it was important, though. It was important. That's why I love the story. Was important to, like, let me get the most I can get out of this 50, no matter what time of night it is, no matter what the circumstances or the conditions. Like, you know, I don't know if I did it that night, but I might have addressed the crowd, see what Tripoli did, see what the temperature room is, kind of address it, get into mindset, which is practice for different shows in different places at different times and different circumstances. And then dealing with the tiredness of the crowd and accepting what they can give and then, you know, just saying something else at any point, including what you said at the end, just to get something out of him. You know what I mean? So it's all. And that's the beauty of the store. It's like, oh, doing it. Being in situations like that, when it's not always like a better Roses audience just there for you. It's like you just. You just immigrant it out. You know what I mean? Like, you're immigrant, you're here. Let's not waste this. Let's get someone out of this now.

[Ian Edwards]

You'Re, you're deep, phenomenal joke writer. The. Your shark attack bit. Me and Angelo have, have used to watch and just laugh. And I still just like when I, you know, prep to do this, not like saying I was like, oh, I'm gonna do research, but I was like, I was just, I was just watching some of your older bits, man, and it's just, it's just some of the best joke writing I've ever heard. And just from my heart, man, it's like, you're still one of my favorites to watch. I'm excited for the new special. Where'd you record it at?

[Josh Adam Myers]

At the La Jolla Comedy Store.

[Ian Edwards]

Real great room, dude.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, great room. Kill box.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, dude. It's. Which is so funny because audience wise, it's rich, you know, San Diegoites, if that's what you call them, and they're just like. But it's like, it's always a dope room, dude. I love it. We'll do this, Ian. We'll, we'll make sure, Jer. Make sure we note it when it comes out and, and put it in my intro and outros and I'll promote it for when it drops. Okay, so we got you, dude. You'll have a, you'll have a nice grip of about 20, 000 middle aged, you know, music dudes.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Follow me on YouTube. I'll take them.

[Ian Edwards]

Follow them on YouTube. I don't know. We covered this on the last one, and I don't know if I even really asked you about it, but. So you're, you're born in Jamaica. Tell me about that. What's where, like, what do you, where, where are you born? How do you get to America? Like, you know, what's the situation like in Jamaica? How long were you there, etcetera?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I was raised in Jamaica, but I was born in England to Jamaican parents. But, you know, you in Jamaica, your cousins, the rest of your family is Jamaican. The food you eat is Jamaican. Your parents talk pato to you and everything like that. So you have a great sense of the culture and lifestyle and you communicate back and forth with relatives there. Then when I was nine, I moved there till I was like 17.

[Ian Edwards]

So you spent most of your, your, your life in Jamaica. You're like growing up years, right?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Growing up years, yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

What is that like? What is, what is? Because I, I don't, you know, I, I. The Jamaica I see is the resorts, you know, And I know it's not like that. I know it's like, you know, is in Part of my language. Is it a third world country? Is it, like. Is it, like, rough?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like, yeah, life can get rough. Like, it could be just like anywhere else. It could be good and bad, but as far as, like, you're gonna see some shanty houses, you know what I mean? When you leave the resort, you know what I mean? You know, but you can also. Food is pretty much everywhere because just grow it. You know what I mean? Like, we used to, like, let's go get some mangoes. Let's go get some guineps, which is like a Jamaican version of a grape, or let's go get some ackee. And we'd go to this other piece of land that we had. We had some stuff on it. We'd grow corn in the backyard, watermelons. We'd have goats in the backyard, in a pen, you know, My uncle had lived in the same yard, you know, big yard, so he had hogs. And, you know, it's like you just have everything. So you could get sugar cane. Just go cut that. Eat it with your teeth. You know what I mean? Peel it with your teeth, eat it with your teeth. Mangoes, coconuts, off the tree. You know what I mean? So, yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

And so is it, you know, were you. Were you. I'm gonna say, struggling, but is it like, is it rough or is it just like. Because you don't know any different. You guys just adapt, and it's just like, this is. This is the way it is, and we all just help each other. And, you know, England is.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's just like anywhere else. Like, England is first world. So then I moved to a country that wasn't first world. But when I moved to Jamaica, the economy was good. It was like, one Jamaican, two Jamaican dollars made an American dollar. Okay? And then the prime minister of Jamaica got into beef with the president of America because at the time, he was friends with Cuba, and Cuba built two schools there, and there was a threat of, like, communism. And America wanted us to kill our relationship with. With. With Cuba. And our premise is like, nah, I gotta be friends with both of y'all. And then. Then we were supposed to get this loan that was supposed to help the country from the International Monetary Fund, and they killed that loan. And then the American government started supporting the other party, and an election was coming up, and that party bought guns with some of that support money and kind of tried to scare the other people from the other party into not from voting so that the, you know, the party that America supported could win the election. So there was A lot of. Lot of chaos. And I think some of that is what, you know, you. If you saw the Bob Marley movie.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, it was really good.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Was it that was going on at the time?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. I didn't feel like. I'm not gonna say I didn't feel like seeing it. I just. I just never. It's on Delta flights. And I was like. I just thought the guy didn't look like Bob. And so you kind of like wrote it off as this, like, you know.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You don't think he look like him? I think he. I think. I think. I think it could have been. You know how the Brutalist is like four hours?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's what the Bob Marley movie should have been. It should have been like four hours, you know. Why is it short four hours? And they ain't making no music, you know what I'm saying? And Bob Marley movies, like two hours. They try to get it in under certain, I go brutalist. That make it long. He's worth it. You know what I mean? Like, I never heard of the guy from the Brutalist until I heard of the movie Brutalist. Bob Marley, the guy from the Brutalist heard about Marley, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

Is he the most famous guy from Jamaica, you think? I mean, he is kind of been, you know. What's the word? Not. Is it deified? Is that the word? Where it's like, he's. He's more than just a musician. Like, he is a. A cultural phenomenon.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Certified legend.

[Ian Edwards]

Certified legend, yeah. You know, what. What is that? What is that? Like, in. I mean, you know, tell me about, like, your experience with Bob in. In Jamaica, finding out about him and just you take me through it before we even get into the record. Like, I. I'm very, very curious, like, you know, because it was. It's for, you know, Bob. Since I have been alive, I just knew who he was, you know, and we mentioned the album Legend. Everybody had Legend. Everybody Legend.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I. Dude, I surprised to hear that White. That's from coming from where I'm like. Like, I know we had Legend, you know, but it's great to hear that, you know, somebody growing up somewhere else had that shit too.

[Ian Edwards]

Well, one.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Everybody short, but.

[Ian Edwards]

But also Bob Marley or reggae music, especially Bob's music is some of the most easily listenable music, you know, It's. It's just. You can play it in any situation. It's. It's just. It's just perfect. It makes you feel good. It's not, you know, you. You can't not kind of groove, do it it's always a positive message. Or if he's talking about, like, you know. You know. Well, with this record, I mean, the first half is. Is. Is the, you know, the religious and the politics side. And then the second side is all about, like, lovemaking. But it just feels like. Like it's just Legend. I mean, Jeremiah, like, we all of our friends had Bob Marley legend. Am I wrong?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

I mean, the stats. As of March 2025, Legend has spent a total of 876 weeks on the US Billboard 200 albums chart, 1175 weeks on the UK chart, the top 100. So that's the second longest run in U. S. History and the third longest in UK History. Can I. Can I guess what is. What is number. Is number one, Dark side of the Moon. Oh, I got a lot. Hold on, let me look at it. I think Dark side of the Moon might be one of the only records that, like, as or, like, Beatles. Like Beatles blue record or something like that, maybe. But, yeah, while he looks that up, you know, tell me about, like. Tell me about what that's like with. What's Bob Marley like, You know, your experience with him.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, that goes back to, like, growing up in England, like I said. Okay. Like, I had Jamaican cousins, Jamaican family. So around the house, my father had, like, this. This tape reel with reggae music on it. So his music was a little older. It was like John Holt, you know. But then I would go to my aunt's house, my cousin, who was older. We'd go into her room, and she'd never be there. She'd be at some concert, but her walls was just papered with, like, Bob Marley posters. Like, you could tell where she was at when she wasn't home. When you went in her room, she was always at one of those things. And then we'd hear, like, Bob Marley or any type of reggae, you know, anyway, in the house, in the car, at my family's house. And then going to Jamaica, like, when we moved there, he was just on top the whole time, you know, from the moment we got there. And everybody could relate to what he was saying because he's a very grounded individual. And Jamaican people are very, like, to the point there's not, like, a lot of lying or just, like, even, like, I remember, like, the nicknames people would have would be, like. You would be just be Pink Hair. You know what I mean? You know, and if. And you'd be Ponytail Jeremiah. It's just like, he had one arm. You'd be one. You know what I mean? Yeah, like your nickname just reflected. And it meant no malice and nobody took it with malice. Just so anything was just a common sense answer. So he directed. Yeah. Direct and common sense. So he just. Just verberated that in his music. And it felt like the music felt like exactly what was going on in your life. So it resonated and not just then. If you listen to it now, it's still going on now. So that's why classic, you know, people are born, you know, two days ago, still know Bob. Bonnie.

[Ian Edwards]

You're right, Josh. It is the number one. Pink Floyd, Dark side of the Moon.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, I knew dark 66 weeks. Yeah, I knew Dark side just was. It's just on that level. It's like one of those records but. But Bob Marley, Legend, it's just. It's, you know, it's perfect. It's a perfect. It's one of the. One of the few greatest hits records that I agree should be on this. You know what I mean? Because it's an album in itself. When did you start really understanding what. What he was saying? Like, you know, or did you. Where did people have to explain it? Or the first time you start hearing it, you started. You're like, oh, wow, this does make sense. He's talking about this and he's talking about what's going on right here.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, I think we always did because we watch the news, we see what's going on. We see that some. You drive around or go to school, you see that certain people are lacking. You see that certain people have money. You see, even in Jamaica, there's a color system where, you know, the lighter you are, the closer to white you are. You more. The two. The two prime ministers. And the one got. The one prime minister was like half white, and the other one was Syrian, you know, of a Syrian descent. So, like, he was just saying what was happening in society. You could see it. And, you know, we come from an island of slavery, you know, so, like all the songs, it has that African music. It had the 70s electronic guitar and drum in there, you know, and that. That funkiness. But the reggae from, you know, you know, take of African music and it just. Like some of the songs don't even need words. You just know whatever words could they be for this beat, you know what I mean? Like, this is, you know, you just felt it. I feel people feel it now. Yeah, it's.

[Ian Edwards]

It's crazy just like how much he gets across in a song. And just by, you know, you know, Natural Mystic. I mean, the opening Track on this record, it's just like. It. Just the way it brings you in. And. And it's. And it's. What's even crazier is that I think this album. Yeah. From my understanding, is he. So he's exiled to London. In. In. Just before his exile, he survives an assassination attempt while in Jamaica. Do you remember that? Were you there for that?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, I think I was like. I was like nine when I moved there. So what year did this come out?

[Ian Edwards]

This came out in 1977.

[Josh Adam Myers]

1977. So I was there. He was. Yeah. Now I'm trying to get my years together. This came out in 1977. Right.

[Ian Edwards]

This came out. Let me just see the exact date. Our record is Exodus by Mom Marley. It's the ninth studio record by reggae Jamaican legend Bob Marley. In the Whale is released June of 1977 through Island Records following his other record, Rastaman Vibration, recorded in Kingston and coming in at 37 minutes and 24 seconds. It's. So where's the little skadoodle that I was just reading? There it is. So it says he survives an assassination attempt in Jamaica. A shooter entered his home in Kingston, injuring Bob, his wife Rita, and his manager, Don Taylor. Marley survived and performed in a free Smile Jamaica concert two days later. Do you remember that? Do you. Were you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So here's where I'm confused with. Take me there for me. I'm confused, like, if I was there or not, because I'm. Because I remember reading his book Catch Fire, so that stories in there. I remember also writing an episode of the. Of. What is the name of that TV show that they animate? It was a movie that was animated in. At a Bob Marley episode. So I did a ton of research, and we had the Bob Marley's assassination attempt in that. What was that? I can't remember the name that.

[Ian Edwards]

You worked on it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, I wrote that.

[Ian Edwards]

Lyricist. Not lyricist.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Lounge's Lounge is an animated show. It was based off a movie with Michael. Jai White did the movie.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, oh, oh, God damn it. I see it. Right? It's Black Dynamite.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Black Dynamite. So I wrote the episode of that. So I. I lived that whole story through there. And then I watched the movie a few years ago. So. Yeah, I can't remember.

[Ian Edwards]

What do you mean? What do you mean? You guys made it in the episode? Like, what? Because I know that that show took place in the. You go ahead.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, they did a Bob Marley episode. I'm trying to remember what the episode. It was mostly about his life, so I did, like, learn his whole life again and put parts of it in this 30 minute episode. But what did Black. Maybe he had hired Black Dynamite as a bodyguard because Black Dynamite was part of his stuff was to like pop up in certain parts of historical 70s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My memory just stinks, period.

[Ian Edwards]

It's good enough to me, dude. I mean, the fact that you had to research, you know, Bob for that episode. I love that though they put. They put him in like the. The Cuban Missile Crisis from that. Yeah, from that era he provide. He performs at the free Smile Jamaica concert two days later. He then spends two years in exile in London putting out the albums Exodus and Kaya. Exodus went gold in the us, UK and Canada. Stands out from other albums by Bob Marley for its usage of sounds and instrumentation borrowed from rock and roll and other modern genre and artists. The album's production has been characterized as laid back, with pulsating bass beats and an emphasis on piano, trumpet and guitar. Unlike previous records from the band, Exodus thematically moves away from the cryptic storytelling. Instead it revolves around themes of change, religious politics and sexuality. And like I said, it's split into two halves. Religious and religion and politics. And the second half is all about. And like I said, Time named it the best album of the 20th century. Do you. Do you remember hearing this record for the first time? Or you just like. It just was in a collection of everything else.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's in a collection of everything else.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like, I can't remember like the first day I heard it. You know, it's like Bob Marley music was being played at some point, you know, at different points of our lives. So it's just tough to like, be like, this is when Exodus came out, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

Do you ever see him live?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, I never saw him live.

[Ian Edwards]

No, I, I still, you know, he'd. He'd be alive today if he. It's like he'd. He'd still be relatively young. I mean, how old would he be, Jer, if he was alive today? He was born in 45, so he'd be about 78 or. No, he'd be 80. He'd be 80, right? I think he'd be 80. I think that's the math. I'm terrible at math.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He'd be 80. Still having kids with different women.

[Ian Edwards]

60.

[Josh Adam Myers]

80.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, exactly. How many kids does he have? Let's see. How many kids does he have? Let me take a look. Bob Marley. That dude did not pull out, dude. He. He finished his job. Eleven kids.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How many. How many moms?

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, that's I mean, how many did Rita.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Rita raised them all.

[Ian Edwards]

Dude, Read is a trooper. She really is.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Nick Cannon or Bob Marley. That's the real question. How many does Nick Cannon have?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think Nick's up to, like, 14, but, geez, I feel like the moms are individually racing them. Rita was like, I don't care. Not that she didn't care, but she's. She's got a. She's got a big soul. She is.

[Ian Edwards]

Is that a Jamaican thing, or is it like, you know, that it's just like. No, I'm not saying the. The. The. The.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think people like that hair. You're talking about, like, just having. Sowing your seed.

[Ian Edwards]

Just a big heart, like, you know, like, you. You go to, like. Like, I went to my buddy Tassos's house, and his mom would, you know, even if she'd be pissed at the kids and she. And we. She didn't want us there. She would fe. Just, like, come on in, sit at the table. Like, you know, just very, like, you know, treated everybody like they were her kids.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I guess it's not a Jamaican thing, then that. Which is a good thing. You want all that. That all over the world and like, somebody. You know what I mean?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But did she find out that y'all were her father, her husband's kids?

[Ian Edwards]

Rita, this. Right, let's. Let's talk about some of this record. All right, well, how did he die? He died in 1977, diagnosed with a type of malignant melanoma under his nail. So he literally just. If he would have had his big toe cut off, he would have survived? Basically. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's what they saying.

[Ian Edwards]

Why do you mean? They ignored it. He said, God will take care of it. That it was pretty deep. Rastafarian religion he was involved in there. What is the. What is the basis of the Rastafari religion? Like, what is the. Are you. Are you Rastafari, Ian?

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, no, but I had dreads. And then because I had dreads, I would, like, look into it.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, so I might misspeak, but these are some of the things I do remember. It's like Haley's. The last is supposed to be, like, the second coming up of Jesus, the Rastafarians. And a big part of it was like, he was the first African king slash emperor to defeat a European power. And they just remember seeing a picture of him, you know, standing on an unexploded bomb. And I think it. I mean, the Ethiopians defeated. It's Italy Italy, Mussolini, I think, and them tried to take over. So it really was a big boost to, like, black Africa consciousness at the time. And I think the dreads are based off the MAU MAU tribe in Africa, where, you know, you know, they were warriors and they had this type of hairstyle and they weren't taking any. And they stood up. They, they, they would stand on it. As they say these days, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

Was it tough to cut off your dreads or are you just like, it was time or just. You were.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No, it was time. It was time.

[Ian Edwards]

How long did you grow it for?

[Josh Adam Myers]

At least 10 years.

[Ian Edwards]

Wow.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Definitely longer. Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Jer, how long have you had your man bun for like five years? No, eight years. You're gonna cut it off? Almost 10 eventually.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I will probably get to 10. Get to 10, get to 10 first.

[Ian Edwards]

Hold on to it. All right, let's talk about some of the tracks on this record and then we'll get into to more of these. I have some interesting facts about Bob Marley. The record. So hold on. Successful, critically, commercially receives gold certification in the US this album propelled him to international stardom. Conceived Exodus as the album title. Before even writing the songs I watched, I did watch a clip from the movie of him coming up with this song, them just like jamming it out. In December 76, Jamaica was going through, like we said, elections, generating substantial political discourse. In his campaign, Prime Minister Michael Manley used the campaign slogan, we know where we're going. In response, Marley wrote Exodus, which is the title track, became a number one hit in Jamaica as well as United Kingdom. In 74, two of the original Whalers, Peter Tosh and Bunny, left the band. The band continued releasing material as Bob Marley Whalers, as some as had sometimes been the case in the Lee Perry era. His current backing band included brothers Carlton and Ashton, family man Barrett on drums, Respectively, Al Anderson Jr. Marvin on lead guitar, Tyrone Downey and Earl why Lindo on keyboards, Alvin Seco Patterson on percussion. The three i3s consisted of Judy. Yeah, is it. What is it?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I threes.

[Ian Edwards]

The. The. The i3s consisted of Judy Moat, Marcia Griffiths and Marley's wife Rita. They all provided the backing vocals. And in 75, Marley had his international breakthrough with his first out hit, outside Jamaica, no Woman, no Cry from the Natty Dread record. This is followed by the breakthrough album in the United States, Rosterman Vibrations, which became the 48th best selling album on the Billboard soul charts in 78. And this is the second of three times we'll be talking about Bob Marley and the whalers on the 500. We did natty Dread a few months back with Maj Gibrani. Yeah yeah, when that came in at 181 and then Legend, like we said is number 48 and on the 2020 re rank, Natty Dread didn't cut but this album jumped 91 spots to number 71 and the Best of dropped two spots to number 48. All right everybody, I want to give a quick shout out to all the aspiring rock stars listening out there. Now let me ask you one question. Are you ready to up your musicianship to the next level? 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Go to the app or Play store to download it. Listeners of this show can get 30% off their first year by going to distrokid.com VIP the 500. That's distrokid.com VIP the500 for 30 off your first year. Dig it. Natural mystic, the first song on the record. A year earlier, Bob had survived an assassination attempt and gone into an underground exile in London. Not surprisingly, the close call had affected him. Whaler's guitars junior Marvin noted in an interview. Natural mystic was very current because he couldn't believe he was still alive. Getting protection from the spiritual vibration. How was he hit by the bullets? Was he. Was he actually shot?

[Josh Adam Myers]

When was this? At the Smile Orange? Because that's also like an attack on him at his home.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So which one?

[Ian Edwards]

At his house?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think right at his house. Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Was he shot in the Movie?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, I can't remember if. I can't remember now for some reason. If he got shot, he might not have been shot. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know if he got shot at the concert, he got hit at the concert, or if he got hit at home. But just being alive after somebody tries to kill you and if you stare deaf in the face, you must feel like it's some type of miracle. And Jamaica is very superstitious. What do you mean? Like, I grew up very, like, Church of England, Pentecostal, religious, but also, there's so many superstitious stories about dopi, about Obia Man. Obia man is like. It's like Jamaica's version of voodoo. And if you do this, then this will happen. If you do this, and if you don't do this, this will happen. So you. You. And it's an island, right? Where, especially at the time, technology wasn't that prevalent, so you could feel things sometimes that. I can't even put my word, my. My finger on that. You just knew you weren't alone spiritually, you know what I mean?

[Ian Edwards]

Have you ever had any close calls, like, with, like. You ever gotten mugged or anything like that? You know, come, like, not your. Like, your version of an assassination attempt? It doesn't have to be, like, you know, shot at.

[Josh Adam Myers]

If you go into reggae clubs, you're gonna be. You're gonna witness shootouts. You're gonna be in the vicinity of shootouts, like, and that also happens. So there's two incidences. Like, I'm just gonna name two. I remember.

[Ian Edwards]

You got more.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, there's more. But these are. I feel like these are the two funniest ones. So there's. First of all, there's different levels of Jamaican, you know, and some people are more Jamaican than others, or it's more a different type of Jamaican than another. Another. Just like there's different types of black Americans or different types of white people. You know, you're. You're your type of white people. I see you. I know what type of white person you are. I see Jeremiah, know what type of white person is, you know, so there's this reggae club, and this is in New York in Long island, called Nakasaki. Very popular record club. And I used to do comedy and then pull up at night and parking lot pimp, you know, and check out the girls coming out. So sometimes we get there a little early. So I'm in the car. My homeboy's, like, right here next to me, and another friend he met us in the parking lot. He's standing outside the car. He's talking to me. As he's talking to me, the doors to the club fly open. Because we're facing the club. We want to see the girls, you know, and their two bounce is huge. They throw it out. Two Jamaicans, you know, I know they're Jamaican because it's a reggae club, but I really know they're Jamaican because they're wearing linen suits, which is the drug dealer outfit of the day, you know?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So my friends. And I'm like, okay, where are these dudes going? So. So then they go to their car. They don't even fight back. They get thrown out. They're in linen suits. They don't even fight back. I know this ain't over. You know what I'm saying? They go to the car. My friend said, yep, yep, yep, yep, yeah. And as he's yapping, I'm like, yeah, man, that's crazy. That's crazy. I start, like, winding down my seat thing, and then, because I notice that they pop the trunk of their cars, pull out guns, bounce the spine. My friend's like, let me in, let me in. And I'm like, I'm on the floor right now, as low as I could. My friend Pat, he's fat as hell, so his seat is back too, because he saw a peak game, but his stomach is like, yeah, yeah. Screeching in a lot. Just all kinds of crazy. And then. Then they left and the shootout was over. And it was. That was just one. We just in the middle of, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And then was. Oh, this one night, I was in a club in Houston.

[Ian Edwards]

Another reggae club?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Nah, they was playing Tupac, and I think he just died. Always one of his new albums. And I was like. I was like. In my head, I was like, the vibe just changed. I was like. It was. Everybody's having a good ass time. But those Tupac beats was like. Was just. I can't even describe how it was hitting. I was like, something's gonna happen. Now. There's. There's no way he felt it.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Because the music was just like. Everybody was into it and sore enough, two guys start fighting and guns come out and I die behind a cigarette machine and bullets are flying. And then this other guy comes to try to hide behind the cigarette sheet machine with me. I said, bro, there's already somebody back here. You're sticking out like, I'm good. But, yeah, it was a shootout in.

[Ian Edwards]

That spot that night, dude, that's crazy.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So that's Natural mystic, like, feeling that. You know what I'm saying?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's Natural Mystic.

[Ian Edwards]

Natural mystic was. It was. There was. There was legend. And then I think the. The next greatest hits was Natural mystic. And that was what opened this. And I. This is just one of probably my favorite Bob Marley songs.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Me too.

[Ian Edwards]

You know, it just. It really just sets the mood of this record. And, I mean, you just feel everything that he's saying from it skipping ahead. Just like, we'll get through the hitters on this Exodus, which. I mean, God damn, it's just one of the catchiest songs. The song ties together the biblical story of Moses leading the Israelites out of Egypt to the hope of Rastafarians to be led to freedom. After an assassination attempt In Jamaica in 76, Marley flew to England where he recorded the song. The song had a revolutionary theme, punctured by its chorus of exodus movement of Ja People became a number one hit in Jamaica as well as top 20 hit in the United States, where it reached number 14 and in Germany. This is his first single to receive widespread airplay on black radio stations in.

[Josh Adam Myers]

U. S. That's why sometimes it's good to be shot at. It's inspirational.

[Ian Edwards]

Sure. I mean, I bet your life flashes before your eyes. And, dude, imagine what. Imagine what John Lennon would have written if he would have survived that. You know what I mean?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know what I mean?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah. Like, imagine how great the music would have been.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Imagine.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, well, he already did that, but, you know, imagine Exodus. Thoughts on this? What is this? What does this make you feel when you hear this, Ian? Like, any thoughts on any. Any. Any comments or anything you want to add to it?

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's just like one of his most popular songs, and it just lives in. I don't want to say infamy, but you hear it, it's timeless. And it just reminds me of growing up in Jamaica when I hear it. Yeah, like, same thing with Natural Mystic. It's like some of these things will stay with you your entire life. You don't have to hear them often, but when you do, it takes you right back to Taste of Food.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

A style of the time. And, you know. You know, if you saw a movie about that time, you have, like a certain color tone, it gives you those visuals and it's just. And it just says everything. Just makes you remind you to, you know, don't get caught slipping and stay revolutionary. Stay a rebel. You know what I mean? Don't. Don't let the system get you down, stay strong. These are messages that somebody left because he knew this was going to continue to be like this.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, that was perfectly said. I want to talk about it because it's being the story, the biblical story of Moses, which I. This is a weird segue into it, but I'm. It's really curious about this, and I don't know if I mentioned on the last one, but I feel it's relevant right now with him winning four Academy Awards. You were in Sean Baker's first film, Tangerine. Tell me about the. How you got cast in that, and what was that like working on that film with him? Because Anora, you know, just won Best Picture, and it was a true independent film. Meaning, like, the money that was spent is on the screen. There was no craft service. Like, you know, and I know. And I know that that Tangerine was. Was even cheaper because he shot it on iPhone. So just tell me about the process, how you met him and then how you got into it, and what was it like working on the film?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Right. So I'm trying to remember what happened first. Sometimes when you perform. And we was just talking about comedy earlier, like, as an immigrant is like, I'm not trying to waste any stage time. You don't know who sees you.

[Ian Edwards]

Sure.

[Josh Adam Myers]

And when, you know. So one night after I sat at the store, I'm walking, and I think it was. I don't think this was Sean, because my memory is blurry. But. But it was. I feel like if this is. Was his. One of his producers. And I said, hey, I seen you in New York at this. At the. Excuse me. At the Cellar. I just saw you at the Comedy Store. You're funny. You ever think about acting? Yeah, always wanted to do some acting. And he's like, well, I'm a producer. Here's my number. Can I have yours? I'll hit you up if anything comes up. So I'm like, bet. And normally I give people my number because I realize that nobody's gonna call. Like, you've. You've had these. You guys have these approaches, and it's just like. It makes you feel good, but nothing's gonna happen. So I get the call, and I thought, yeah, yeah, we. You know, we have some scenes from a movie. We're gonna shoot it. Blah, blah, blah. Do you want to be in it? Still interested? I said, yeah. All right, cool. And this wasn't his first movie. He was. He won an Independent Spirit Award. Two years. Yeah. He's gone. He did, like, two movies, maybe all three before that, you know, he's been built. He's been building, you know, So I said, yeah, so I'm a comic, and I've also been written up. Written on some TV shows before. So when they send me this thing, it's in Microsoft Word. So now I'm like, yeah, it's not even a script format. Yeah. And I read the scenes, and he's like, you don't have to memorize, you know, just generalized them. And. And I was like, all right. But the night before, we shot Saturday morning early. And at the time, I lived in Reseda, and the. Where we were shooting was like, East Hollywood. And the night before, I was in Hollywood, and I went to a Chris Spencer show at the movie theater they used to accommodate the Hollywood and Highland.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. I remember that now. That's. Well, no, now it. It was the actual movie theater.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It was at the actual movie theater.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They. Now they. There's a comedy club in the same area, that Kookaburra Lounge. But. But it's. That's in the. It's an actual space like, this was. Chris Spencer ran a show there.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, he ran a show there.

[Ian Edwards]

I love Chris, man.

[Josh Adam Myers]

One of the theaters. Yeah, Chris. Chris is dope. As.

[Ian Edwards]

Chris is dope. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I do the show or I didn't do. So I just went, hung out. It's a big party. I think they had a party there. Then after the party there, some friends wants to go eat. So I went to eat. After I went to eat, I get back to receipt of 4:00am and I think I have to be on set like 8:00am oh, shit. So I wake up on time, but I'm tired as. And I'm like. I could just. I'm like, this is a Microsoft Word. This ain't. I don't have to go. You know, we didn't have any discussions about what type of movie it was. If it's a short, it was just a seed. I just said yes, because I put it out there in the universe that I'm gonna get more acting gigs. And this came along, so I just want to go back to sleep. So then I was like, just go. I don't know how I taught myself in going.

[Ian Edwards]

You agree? You're. You're responsible. You're. You're. Yeah, dude.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You're. You're a professional, you know? And this was a time, like, I'm looking at the script like, this is in Microsoft Word.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Words.

[Ian Edwards]

That's the thing.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Microsoft could be. And how big of A deal if they miss, if I don't come, it's like. It's like. We didn't talk money. I didn't ask for any, but I was like, somebody put you in a movie. Go. And when I said, I also said, if I go, I better commit. Whatever they're gonna. I'm gonna do, because once it's in the can, it's in the can. I want to look bad. So I went down there. Guess when, like, I'm at this taco place or this burrito place.

[Ian Edwards]

Del Taco. Was it. Was it Del Taco? Because it's right on the corner. J. Like, you don't. You don't realize this. You know, the movie shot at what. What me and Angelo Bowers used to call Tranny Times Square. Oh, nice. Yeah. Corner of Santa Monica and Highland. Charming. There was a. There was a donut place called Donut Time, and then there was a Del Taco. Now the donut place is a Trejo's Taco, and the Del Taco is a Walgreens. But, dude, we used to get high. Yeah, we used to get high, and we used to go to the Donut Time or the Del Taco and just watch the fights. It's the equivalent. It's. Ian. It's the equivalent of. Because I know you're all.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's all Waffle House.

[Ian Edwards]

It's not just waffle. It's. It's Waffle House, but Tranny Waffle House. And. And, Ian, because I know you're a New York dude, too, and you do the Cellar. It's the equivalent of the McDonald's that's right there on Third Street. Do you know what I'm talking about? That McDonald's is right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right there next to the Village Underground. Yeah. And which is, like, dude, more world star hip hop videos had been recorded at that McDonald's because of the fights. And now they actually bought it, and they're turning it into another comedy seller. But it was Hollywood, and Highland was. Man, it was. It's. It. Charm. A lot of charm. A lot of charm. But it was a. It was a rough place.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So I said, that's where Sean Baker used to live, and that's where he got the idea for the movie, because of the transgender women there. And I guess he associated with some of them, like, talked to them, heard their story. And so, like I said, I only got the script in words. So when I got there, there were transgender women there.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That I was going to be acting with who'd never acted in anything before. And there were. They were shooting on iPhones. I'm expecting cameras, like, real cameras, even for a short. So I'm like, I could have stayed in bed.

[Ian Edwards]

It's in Word. It's in Word.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's in Word. And there's no cameras. It's on iPhone, you know? But I'm like, I'm here. Let me commit. And so we. We did the scenes, you know, and I, you know, improv a little bit, used the script a little bit, and then did it. And I forgot about it because. And then we shot it early in the year. It was like, February, January, shoot. And then around November, I get a call. I don't recognize the number. I just call back the number. They didn't answer. Then I listened to the message, and it says, hey, Ian, it's Sean Baker from that movie we shot, Tangerine. I'm like, what movie we shot? Because the movie didn't have a name when we shot it. That's. It was just Microsoft Word, Famine. So then he calls me back and says, hey, don't tell anybody, but it might. You might get this thing in Sundance. We have a really good chance. We want to do some adr. Are you available? So, yeah, I'm down. I'll do the adr. And still I don't know if it's a short or feature. I don't know what category.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So I didn't know what the movie. The whole movie was until it did get into Sundance and a bunch of actors in it, and I always wanted to go to Sundance, so I just quit Blackish. I was like, I'll go to Sundance and see this film. That's where I saw it. So at first, I met most of the cast members because I was only in scenes with the three girls. Yeah. And that's it. That's. I had no idea.

[Ian Edwards]

I love that. I love that. You just. It's like. So when. When you got that call that he was like, he's gonna get into Sundance, were you just, like. Were you shocked? I mean, you must have been just like, I have to figure out what.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Movie it was first, because I dropped another short. Yeah. Who are you? I shot another short early in the year, too. Too. So I was like. Like, the movie didn't have the name Tangerine on it, or maybe I missed it. You know, maybe they named it later. And it's. It. It was just. That's how. I don't know if he still rolls like that, but that's just how he rolled back then into, like, something You. It could be something that's not. When you. I work in tv, so they have, you know, line producers and production and they have crew meetings for every scene or moment in the movie or the t. Excuse me, TV show. So this is, you know. But when somebody said, hey, just pull up on this date with this Microsoft Word sheet and this. You just don't know, man. You just don't know.

[Ian Edwards]

Do you keep in touch with them?

[Josh Adam Myers]

I did text him the other day. I used to keep in contact with him and he invited me to like, other screenings. Like he had this movie about a male.

[Ian Edwards]

I don't know, Red Rocket.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Red Rocket, Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Red Rocket.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. And he was there for that. We spoke then. That's the last time I saw him. And I text with him before I texted me on the night. Congratulations.

[Ian Edwards]

That's awesome.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It was too busy.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, yeah. I mean, it was a big night for him.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Trying to figure out where to put him.

[Ian Edwards]

No, it's incredible. I just re. Watched Tangerine. It's just. It's such a good movie in your part, but we, we. It's. It's. I'm glad you woke up for it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm glad.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Dude, that's. That's really rad, dude. Whatever. That never happens. That never happens.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Exactly, exactly.

[Ian Edwards]

It's always. Dude, it's. It's always you. Yeah, I agree to do it. I mean, I don't know if you remember, but what's her name? Oh, my God. Ida Rodriguez. Were you in that movie that she made? Like, like it's called Brainiacs in La La Land. And I've been. I'm a first year comic. And. And she goes, we got an audition for you. We're making a movie. We got an audition. And I was like, oh, cool. And. And she gives me an address and I show up and it's at an actual casting office like, like where you can rent space to do auditions. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, this is a real movie. And. And I go in audition and she calls me. She's like, you got the lead role. You're the main male character. And I'm like, oh, my God. And I'm telling my parents and I'm telling friends back home, Jerry, I probably called you, dude. It was. I mean, it was. It was not on word. It was in the actual final draft and shot with an actual camera. But that was the. I mean, I've told her. She knows it. It was such a shitty. Like just the movie. I remember we went to the. The screening of It. And, like, it was. Dude, it was, like, almost three hours long. And it's like me and Byron are watching, and people are, like, stretching during it. You're like, Jesus. Like, that's how you know it's too long. And that's 99.9 of the time. What happens when somebody says, be at this place? It's a word document. Here you go.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like, exactly.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. You locked out, dude. That's rad. All right, let's talk about. Let's talk about a couple more tracks. We'll get you out of here. Jamming, which is. I don't know. This is like. When you think of Bob Marley, I feel like. I feel like the second half of this record is probably one of the strongest second halves in, like, album history. I mean, it ends. The first side ends with Exodus, and then it's just his greatest hits. It's jamming, Waiting in vain, turn your lights down low and Three Little Birds. I mean, talk about a loaded. A bottom heavy album. But I mean, like. Yeah, jamming. Any thoughts on jamming? Like, what do you. I mean, this is just like. It's. It's. This is like, probably the most Bob Marley. Bob Marley song of all time.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. I think this is. This is a big song in Jamaica and a lot of positivity around it. And I. But, you know, like, I listened to these. To this album a bunch of times yesterday just to refresh into it. Refresh. But I. Waiting in vain really got me especially. I heard it last night. It makes you want to be. Ever hear a love song and you want to be in love?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Or you hear a man in love and it makes you. The way he sings to the woman makes you like, damn, I wish I. I felt that way about somebody like that. And I think the woman he wrote this song to or was about was one of his mistresses.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Mom say what? Ziggy's mom, right? Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Damien Marley's mom, Cindy Breakspear.

[Josh Adam Myers]

How do you say yeah?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

She was, like, beauty queen or something. And it's like his wife is beautiful. Singing.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, God, dude, Rita. Rita's a trooper. You know, she got shot, too.

[Josh Adam Myers]

When.

[Ian Edwards]

When the assassination attempt happened. She got shot in the head and.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Was cheated on, like, by all these gorgeous women. So. So this guy was just magical. Magical. Like, yeah. You could just get anything done under any circumstances, you know?

[Ian Edwards]

But it seems more like a harem than, like, cheating. I don't know. I could be wrong.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I think there's a version, but I did. I Know, I know she did feel away, but she just dealt with it, you know?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, helped raise the kid, too.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. I, you know, I, I don't, I don't have words to put into what she must have been feeling and, and, and how to explain how she just put on a strong face and just did that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But this is International Women's Day, and if anybody deserves an International Women's Day award, Rita Marley.

[Ian Edwards]

It is Rita Marley. Give her a. Give her an award. Write it in Microsoft Word.

[Josh Adam Myers]

He wrote songs about her too, you know. Yeah, yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

But Waiting in vain and Turn your lights down low is about Chris. Cindy as well, you know, It's. What is that? Who, who else was I just talking to?

[Josh Adam Myers]

You got Riz, Bob. Molly got Riz, man. He's just in the movie.

[Ian Edwards]

They kind of gloss over it, don't they? At the end they're like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

They have like one argument, you know? That's what I'm saying. The movie, they have to remake that movie. It should have Just, Just do it. If you're gonna do it, do it. Don't, don't try to boil this life, this complex life down into like the regular two hour format.

[Ian Edwards]

This is. Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Bigger than that. You know, this needs to be a miniseries or just like. Yeah, because just growing up, his life, you know, the, the. His father and where he grew up and just like him moving from the country to the Damn. Where was. Where was it? Where's the hood that he lived in. In Kingston. Should I forgot. But it was just a shame. Just. And linking up on a farm in.

[Ian Edwards]

Nine Mile, St. Ann Parish.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Right. And then move to Trenchtown and linking up with the guys that, you know, were a part of the Whalers, you know, and, you know, Peter Tosh, Bonnie Wailer, and that journey is something. And meeting Rita when she was young and her being a singer too, and just that journey alone, like, they skipped all that. That. What. What about the luck or the, the destiny in just all of that, you know that. That's just bananas, bro.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Gandhi was three and a half hours long. You're telling me that, you know, you can't, you can't just add another hour. I think they. That was because it was.

[Josh Adam Myers]

No disrespect to Donnie, but he ain't got no bangers. No.

[Ian Edwards]

How long was he on the Billboard 100 list? I don't.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, he's not on there, dude. Yeah, but that's the thing is that I think that movie was made as a cash Grab not by a guy that was like, I have to tell the story of Bob Marley. You know, like, I think that's what you need. You need someone that really like, like, you know, like you said, he deserves a Ken Burns type documentary about it. Like a six, seven part, you know, thing. And I think somebody will probably do it. You know, we'll talk to Wayne Fetterman, see if Wayne, you know, when he's done doing his documentaries about Norm MacDonald, maybe they tackle Bob. But I just. Just on the music alone, it's like there's so many interesting stories. Like, just the story of. Of. Of like. Like you said right there, the conflict that Rita has to sing a song, a beautiful love song about waiting in vain for. For a mistress. Like, just. That's all. That's a. That's a 20 minute segment in the movie right there.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Right. Like the moment. Like, like, first of all, not just sing the song like on the track, like tour with the song.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like your man is making a song, a love song. And you know it ain't about you. So even if you don't like the moment, you're like, who's this song about? You know what I mean? Like, your womanly instincts is gonna be like, this song ain't about me. Are we singing about another woman? Like. Like there's no phones to go through back then, but this is a phone going. This is. This is definitely a signal that something.

[Ian Edwards]

Else is going on.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So who do you feel this like, who is like, you know, when your woman is like, who are you dreaming about last night? Like, that was. I know that wasn't me. You were smiling in your sleep. This is that. You know what I mean? Tell me all about this dream. What was her name? Yeah, this song is. Got these lyrics all of a sudden. About. In love. We. We are together. What you mean you waiting in vain? Right here, right here Been here, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

All right. Waiting in vain Turn your lights down low. And probably the most. I'd say it's one of his most iconic. I mean, you could say that about any one of these songs, but yeah, Three Little birds. I mean, this is like, you know, the don't worry about it thing is just, just, you know, everything's gonna be our mood really. Does. Yeah. No matter what. Like a message Marley received from the birds that frequented his porch stope in Kingston, Jamaica. He's like, that really happened. That's where the inspiration came. The. The i3s. Marley's vocal backing trio insists the song is actually about them. Group member Marcia Griffiths, who taught as the. Taught us the electric Slide. I don't know where that came from. She created the electric. Electric slide. Is that true?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Oh, look at it. It's electric.

[Ian Edwards]

That's her.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, I think that's it.

[Ian Edwards]

It's electric. Boogie, boogie, boogie. Is that where she got paid?

[Josh Adam Myers]

That's amazing. Because they all had, they all had careers. Those women. They were all at some point, like, no, like, he. All the Whalers, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Bunny, Bunny, Peter Tosh did. I guess he worked with Lee Perry. Yeah. I mean, if it was kind of everybody in the offshoot and they still tour. The Whalers still tour. I'm pretty sure you can still go see him. And, I mean, most of his kids, too, are like, like, you know, Damien's doing dance hall, reggae. Ziggy had a career. Rohan, I think that's one of them. I think he was married.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Football.

[Ian Edwards]

Did he?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, he had a son with Lauryn Hill. He had more than one kid, maybe with Lauren. I think they were married for a minute. But I went to Coachella last year and.

[Ian Edwards]

Really?

[Josh Adam Myers]

And this son performed.

[Ian Edwards]

Really? I wouldn't have expected you to be a Coachella dude.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Then you're not gonna expect it when I say I've been probably like, no. Every year.

[Ian Edwards]

No. Oh, yeah. Are you serious?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, man.

[Ian Edwards]

What do you love about it?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Music.

[Ian Edwards]

Sure.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Listen, they have the best bands there. It's. It's a Groupon to see everybody. You feel me? Like, it's a Groupon tip. Like, I don't have to go to different concerts all over the country, all over the world. I pay this 400 and something dollars. I think it's five now. And I'd be like, I'm gonna go see. I can see Nicki Minaj. I could see. I could just see anybody, bro. Hip hop, rock. I can discover some. I've seen mudfooting songs.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, but hold up, hold up, though. But you, I think you're the only guy there that's going for the music. Like, that feels like such a scene.

[Josh Adam Myers]

People. The people are there for the music, man. There's a stigma to this thing. But I, I. People are there for the music. Then there's some people there for the scene, for the photo ops. That's fine. But people, people love music there.

[Ian Edwards]

You don't get caught up in the influencer stuff. It's like, he's just there for the music.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I'm there for the music. And, and, you know, look at everybody. He's like, there's some, there's some Dimes there. I'm just having fun. Everybody, every and everybody. It's funny because I used to like everybody that doesn't go. They're pissed at the people who went.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So if you stay in town, there's a lot of negative energy.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, there is.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But if you go to it, everybody's in Christmas mode because they saved all year to look forward to this April. So everybody's in a good ass mood. You're in an energy field of positivity because people are excited, united and. And that's. And that, that's. That's just a great vibe to be around.

[Ian Edwards]

I never would have thought that. I really thought for this year, who's playing Lady Gaga? What do we got? Post Malone is the big headliners.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I looked at the list early in the year and I forgot. But I'll. I'll just. I'll just get a ticket at some point and go.

[Ian Edwards]

Missy Elliott.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen Missy. I've seen Cast there. There you go.

[Ian Edwards]

I've seen Outcast Live. I saw them and I tour.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I saw Kanye there before, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, can I ask a question? Wait, no. Can I ask you a question? And I. And I'm very curious. Me and a buddy were talking. How does the culture feel about Kanye now with what he did?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Feel about what?

[Ian Edwards]

Kanye, Kanye, the culture. How does the culture feel about what Kanye did now? And where does he stand?

[Josh Adam Myers]

There was a moment we were worried about him, but Diddy has surpassed it. Comparison. So they're like, damn. It was. There was one time when Diddy was hitting up Kanye to save Kanye. He was like, yeah, did he hit him up now? You look back, back, just a few months later, you're like, like, you know, obviously there's something. Something mentally going on with Kanye.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So I just hope he gets that taken care of, you know, the treatment that he deserves.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, I. I just. I'm very curious. I asked some guys at the stand the other night and. And they were like, yeah, it's. It's. He's still Kanye. You know what I mean? He's like, he hasn't put out any good music recently, but, you know. Know. And I was like, but you don't give a. That he said the. About Jews. I'm like, not really. Okay. Curious.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I mean, I mean, I wish he wouldn't say it, but I can't stop him from saying it. But I also know you got to be something. Something's definitely up besides just him saying it, you know?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. It's. It's sad. It's definitely sad. All right, let's wrap this up. Three Little Birds. It's incredible. Song. One Love. People Get Ready. I mean, that's just. Just. Good God, dude. I mean. Yeah, I didn't even see that one. That's. That's on the record, too. It's like, this is, you know, one of the strongest effort. I. I mean, it. I don't know. Out of the. All the albums that we've done, Jeremiah, I don't think. I don't think we've really ever had a record that's had this. It's usually always the first half that's top heavy. It's never the bottom half. And I mean hit after hit. It's just hit after hit. One Love. This is basically his. His Imagine by John Lennon, you know, it's. It's telling the world to stop fighting. There's a deeper meaning behind the song than a simple call for unity. Some of the lyrics are about oppression and how sinners will pay for their evil deeds in the end. For many listeners, the deeper message is lost in the overwhelming chorus. Marley wrote this song amid the turmoil in the Jamaican elections, December 76. We already went. In the history of that. That. Yeah. It says. This incorporates the 1965's Curtis Mayfield in the oppression song People Get Ready. And who wrote the song? He was a big influence on Marley and. Yeah, dude. A message about unity, spirituality and struggle. Let me ask you a question. Who. Who are your inspirations?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Bob Marley's definitely one of them.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That for sure. I'm not just saying that. Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, you know, and these are all for comedy, you know what I'm saying? No, I'm just kidding. But just. Just people who.

[Ian Edwards]

I was like.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Richard Pride. Just people that just went through it and got some done. You know what I mean? Like. Like, you know, you know, Nelson Mandela, you know, just, you know, Pete, there were some tough times that people lived. You know, the Panthers, you know, like, there's some tough times that people lived. And they put their lives on the line to speak their mind so that the world will be better. So I admire that.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Do you feel like we're going forward or we're going backwards?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Well, both, you know, like this. This ain't no straight line. We want this to be a straight line, but that's some. It's like the stock market is. There's dips. You know what I mean? Like, it needs to be corrected. And it's just. Is what it is, you know.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. It's crazy, man. It's. It's. I really hope. I really do hope that we. We figure this out. You know, it's. It's.

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's.

[Ian Edwards]

We were just talking about before you came on. It's just like. It's the. The. Not just financially, but it's just. We're. I've. America is just so divided right now in so many ways. It doesn't feel like it did in 2016, which it felt really divided. Maybe. Maybe I'm missing it, but it almost feels like the country's just like, all right, fine. You know, if you say you can fix it, fix it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Right. It does feel like it's at a dangerous point, but, you know, we'll. We'll see if it gets there. Like, you know. You know, nothing was more divided than a civil war.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know what I mean? So we're not there, and maybe, hopefully we have one thing about being a commercial society where we have a lot of possession. We, like, you know, maybe we won't risk, like, blowing it all up. Like, let's. Hey, let's talk about this first.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

You know, I don't want to. You know, I want to see the NFL. You know, I want to see.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah, yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

There's things, you know, I want to see the World Cup. You know, I want to. Yeah. You know, I just bought a hot tub. You know, I just. I want to soak in that.

[Ian Edwards]

I want to see how Avatar ends.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. The last Avatar before you risk it all. It's just. It's worth talking, bro.

[Ian Edwards]

It really is. It really is. All right, let's get you out of here. Let's ask our final questions. Dude, it's always a pleasure to have you on, brother. And I. I'll be in LA on the 16th and the 17th, so, you know, I know you don't sing, but I'm gonna. You should come by and do the jam one of these times again.

[Josh Adam Myers]

All right.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, you did it at Moon, not Moon. You did it at Montreal. Did it Montreal.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah.

[Ian Edwards]

Started from the bottom. We should. We should. We'll run that back, dude.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, I learned the. This time.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. What's your favorite song on this record?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Natural Mystic.

[Ian Edwards]

Really?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah. You know why? And. And I like, we just talking about that love song, waiting, Waiting in vain, but, you know, I hadn't heard the album in a while, and I played it, and just what a way to open an album. And it brought me back to growing up in Jamaica. I was like, oh, how dare I wait so long to listen to this.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

I felt like a criminal, you know? And then once I let that go, I just enjoyed it and just. I. I just don't have the words to explain how that makes me feel.

[Ian Edwards]

I know. I dig it. I. I know exactly. I. I know what you're saying about the music taking you back because there's so many songs that. That's what I love about music is that you put something on. It's like smell too. If I smell a cologne or I smell something, just reminds me of like, you know, Europe or this or whatever. But. But that song is just so beautiful and so powerful. I'm glad that. I'm glad that you came on then, man. Because it's like you probably. You probably didn't even realize how much you needed to hear it. And it just came at the right time. What's. Is there anything on this at record that you skip over? Is there anything that I would say we, you know, dislike?

[Josh Adam Myers]

It's not that I skip over, but I've never. There's never been a Bob Marley song that. That was redone better than Bob Marley did it. And the song on this album that is like, that is the one that Lauryn Hill did. What's the name of that song? Turn the Lights Down Low.

[Ian Edwards]

Like, she kills it.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Like last night. Yeah, I. I listened to that, like, once I heard it on this. I said, I gotta go listen to. And you almost make, say, the original version, like, Like. But it's. It's not like, that's the only song on this album. I don't think this. That song was a. I don't remember it being a hit when I was growing up, but I remember hearing it later. I was like, is that a Bob Marley song?

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Is that a Bob Marley song? And then finding out that it was on Exodus. But it's just. I listened to that a lot last night too.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Bob Marley version.

[Ian Edwards]

Yeah. I'm gonna re. Listen to that as soon as this is done. Because I. I was. As soon as we were reading that, I was like, oh, yeah, she did that.

[Josh Adam Myers]

That.

[Ian Edwards]

Can you. To this record?

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, yeah. The second half at least.

[Ian Edwards]

Oh, yeah. Second half for sure. I think you can. The Natural Mystic. I mean, it's, it's, it's. It's not. You know, it's lyrically, it's not about. But it's like reggae music just has a. It has a vibe. So you can. To this record. I don't think it's like, yes, you.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Can the exact Exodus?

[Ian Edwards]

Yes, you can. The accidents, Exodus, that's like climax. What would be your elevator pitch to get someone to listen to this? How do you sum this record up?

[Josh Adam Myers]

If you want to be transported to a different time and a different culture, but still get hit by something that you can relate to, now listen to Exodus.

[Ian Edwards]

There it is. Dude. Dude, this was great. Ian, thank you so much for coming on, brother. It's always a pleasure, dude. I. I miss seeing you on the regular, but hopefully I see you when I come back.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Yeah, when I get to la. Jeremiah, good seeing you, fam.

[Ian Edwards]

What did I tell you? What did I tell you? The one and only Ian Edwards. Follow him on Instagram at Ian Edwards comic and on X and Facebook book at Ian Edwards comedy. He's going to be going on tour, so check him out in Charlotte, in Greensboro, Washington, Edmonton and more. Go to his social media Addie Edwards comic to find all things Ian. Now for new music, we just listened to Exodus by Bob Marley and the Whalers. Our new music pick this week, brought to you in part by Distro Kid, is Windy Winding Roads by Stephen Marley featuring Jack Johnson, Bobby Weir and Wolf Brothers. You can find links to the music on our website the500podcast.com and if you were in a band and were directly influenced by one of these albums or artists and you want your music featured on the 500, send us your song to 500podcast gmail.com. make sure you put the album and artists and influence you in the subject line. Next week, Elvis Costello Week as we dig into My Aim Is True and we got a really cool guest for this one. Do your homework. We'll see you then. Stay fleecy. I seen the pave highways.

[Josh Adam Myers]

But none.

[Ian Edwards]

Of them is headed my way how long must we try these w road how long must we try these winding road? You struggle so hard oh good people I'll help you carry a load how long must we try these windy road? How long must we try these winding road? I hear your voice when you say none of them are coming my way how long must we try these windy roads? How long must we try these windy ro. Maybe you hear me too I could sing to you when you're low how long must we try these winding ro. How long must we try these winding ro.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Come on.

[Ian Edwards]

Kind of amazed but not much surprised Seems I've lost my way how long must we try these winding road? How long must we drive these windy road? Had enough worry, had enough struggle I opened my eyes and see how long must we Try these windy road how long must we try these winding road Open my eyes and see SA for the fleece nation on the 500 the 500.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Hey, what's up? My name's Lurk and I'm the host of Lambgoat's Van Flip Podcast. Every week I have in depth conversations.

[Ian Edwards]

With bands from all over the scene, big and small. We also like to keep our finger on the pulse and showcase up and coming bands on the show as well.

[Josh Adam Myers]

So come check out Lambgoat's Van Flip Podcast.

[Ian Edwards]

The Helping Friendly podcast explores the music and fan experience of FISH through interviews and deep dives on shows and tours. For more than 10 years, we've created insightful and fun discussions about our favorite band, and with the help of our guests and thematic series, we're still discovering new angles of appreciation for fish. And when the band is on tour, we provide a review of every show the following day. As one of our listeners said, any Fish fans that enjoy meandering conversations and incredible insight on new and old Fish shows? This is for you. Highly recommend. It's not just about the band and the shows, it's about the journey getting there. Throughout 2024, we're going to be running down the top 25 fish tours of all time, and that'll be interspersed with show reviews and regular episodes. Join us and check out the Helping Friendly podcast wherever you get your podcast. Podcasts.

[Josh Adam Myers]

Next Chapter Podcasts.