172 - Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells A Story - Wayne Federman

Summary

Podcast Summary: The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers – Episode 172: Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells A Story with Wayne Federman

Introduction

In Episode 172 of The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers, hosted by Josh Adam Meyers of Next Chapter Podcasts, the conversation centers around Rod Stewart's seminal album, "Every Picture Tells A Story." Joining Josh is comedian and actor Wayne Federman, marking Wayne's millionth appearance on the show. Together, they delve deep into the intricacies of Stewart's work, his influence on rock and pop music, and share personal anecdotes that highlight the enduring legacy of "Every Picture Tells A Story."

Concert Anecdotes and Personal Stories

The episode kicks off with Josh recounting his frantic quest to secure tickets for Paul McCartney's performance at the Bowery Ballroom. Despite initial setbacks, Josh's persistence pays off when his friend Zach from the band Shinedown manages to secure two tickets for him and Wayne.

Josh Adam Meyers [09:45]: "I couldn’t believe it when Zach called and told us we had two tickets waiting. It was surreal walking into that concert, surrounded by legends like Anne Hathaway and Jerry Seinfeld."

The experience underscores the camaraderie between Josh and Wayne, as they navigate the excitement and unpredictability of live performances. Their conversation reflects a blend of humor and genuine admiration for the artists they discuss.

Deep Dive into "Every Picture Tells A Story"

The core of the episode revolves around Rod Stewart's album "Every Picture Tells A Story," released on May 28, 1971. Josh and Wayne explore the album's pivotal tracks, particularly focusing on the iconic single "Maggie May."

Wayne Federman [29:24]: "Maggie May isn't just a song; it's Rod Stewart's storytelling at its finest. It captured the essence of his transition from rock to a more soulful, narrative style."

They dissect the storytelling aspect of the album, highlighting how Stewart weaves personal experiences into his music. The duo also touches upon Stewart's collaboration with notable musicians like Ronnie Wood, who later joined the Rolling Stones, emphasizing the album's rich musical tapestry.

Rod Stewart's Career and Musical Influence

Beyond the album, Josh and Wayne discuss Rod Stewart's broader career trajectory. They highlight his versatility as a vocalist, seamlessly blending rock, soul, and folk influences. Stewart's raspy voice, a defining characteristic, is lauded as one of the best in the music industry.

Josh Adam Meyers [39:32]: "Rod's voice has this unique rasp that adds so much character to his songs. It's timeless and just as powerful today as it was in the '70s."

The conversation also delves into Stewart's involvement with bands like Faces and his successful solo career, underscoring his ability to remain relevant across decades. They touch upon his numerous accolades, including his induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and being knighted in 2016 for his services to music.

Personal Reflections and Impact

Throughout the episode, both hosts share personal reflections on Rod Stewart's impact on their musical tastes and careers. Josh reminisces about nearly opening for Stewart during his early years, a missed opportunity he now considers a significant regret.

Josh Adam Meyers [77:21]: "One of my biggest regrets is turning down the chance to open for Rod at Mark Ridley's in Michigan. Just hanging out with a legend like him would have been everything."

Wayne adds his admiration for Stewart's enduring presence in the music scene, noting how Stewart continues to captivate audiences worldwide with his performances.

Notable Quotes

• Josh Adam Meyers [09:45]: "I couldn’t believe it when Zach called and told us we had two tickets waiting. It was surreal walking into that concert, surrounded by legends like Anne Hathaway and Jerry Seinfeld."

• Wayne Federman [29:24]: "Maggie May isn't just a song; it's Rod Stewart's storytelling at its finest. It captured the essence of his transition from rock to a more soulful, narrative style."

• Josh Adam Meyers [39:32]: "Rod's voice has this unique rasp that adds so much character to his songs. It's timeless and just as powerful today as it was in the '70s."

Conclusion

Episode 172 of The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers offers an insightful exploration of Rod Stewart's "Every Picture Tells A Story," celebrating its significance in music history. Through engaging dialogue and personal anecdotes, Josh and Wayne illuminate Stewart's artistic prowess and his lasting influence on generations of musicians and fans alike. Whether you're a long-time admirer or new to Rod Stewart's work, this episode provides a comprehensive and entertaining overview of one of rock's enduring icons.

Additional Information

• Podcast: The 500 with Josh Adam Meyers
• Host: Josh Adam Meyers
• Guest: Wayne Federman
• Episode Title: Rod Stewart - Every Picture Tells A Story
• Release Date: February 19, 2025
• Website: the500podcast.com

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[B]

Yep. Know all about.

[A]

Yeah. So you. I know, I know you know. And so I, I, I start sending out texts, but I can't do anything because you have to go down there to get tickets. And obviously I have to tape for the next hour. And I know for a fact the second I finish that podcast, the tickets are gone 10 minutes, you know, so, yeah, so I start reaching out to every person that I think can get me the A ticket. I got to be careful because I don't want to pop my P's on this thing. So I got to be very conscious about this Mike. And so everybody is coming back, either no or just like, I'll check. I reached out to one guy, and he. He goes, oh, this could be a tough one, but let me see what I can do. And he. He was probably my closest because he was the biggest. He knew the. And, you know, I. Then I reach out to my buddy Zach, who's a. Who's a member of the band Shinedown, which is this, like, huge band in, like, the Midwest. They're an arena rock band. They're huge in the radio. Rock radio and everything. But I just. I didn't get to know them until I started hanging out with Jelly. And he's friends with Zach, and I just send a Hail Mary to Zach, and he's a guitarist, and we had hung out a few weeks earlier with Chris Porter. And he goes, let me see what I can do, but, man, it's gonna be tough. And then an hour later, he calls me, goes, all right, I got good news and I got bad news. The bad news is you're not going tonight. That's. I can't do anything about tonight. But I got in touch with Paul's. I don't know if it was his manager or her assistant or something. And she goes, good news is Paul's doing two more shows at the Bowery. Of course, he goes, there's a good chance tomorrow night. So I do my thing. Next day comes, we're at Wednesday. I'm blah, blah, blah ing the whole day. I'm at the gym. It's 5:00. I still reached out to all those other people, and nobody came through. I reach out to Zach, I say, so any word? He goes, let me check. And then he calls me and he says, dude, you got two tickets waiting for you. $50 a piece, got paid in cash. You're on the list. Go to this thing and do that. And I mean, of course. I'm just like, what can I do for you? This guy's a multimillionaire, so he doesn't need anything from me. And I'm just like, please, like, I'm gonna figure out something Wayne to do for him, you know what I mean? Like I'm gonna do something because dude, it the cool thing. Then I text Burr, he's in town doing Glengarry Glen Ross. He immediately gets back to me, goes, dude, I got plans. I'm going to Bob Odenkirk's movie premiere. But then there's like, there's like a dot, dot, dot. And I'm waiting and he goes, but I gotta go to Paul, right? And I go, yeah, dude, this is like, Bob will understand. You know what I mean? This isn't like just Paul McCartney at.

[B]

You don't have to convince me.

[A]

I know you. I know you know. I know you know. And that's why I'm opening with this. And so he goes, I'm in. Meet me at six. He goes, get whatever drugs we can, which is weed and mushrooms, but really just weed. We ride down there. I meet him there. There's a line out the door. There's this guy, I wish I remember his name because I've seen this dude at almost every concert I go to. He's a real trooper. I'll, I'll fill. I want to give him a shout out to one of these pods because I keep running into him and he keeps. He's a cool dude. I think he's from like Belgium. Real sweet guy. He can't get in. Bill shows up. Dude, let me tell you something. I've never been more nervous than when they were looking for my name on that list. Do you know what I mean? Because they couldn't find it right away.

[B]

Oh really?

[A]

Oh no. They had it under Adam Myers. So I'm like, I'm Josh. And they're like, there's no Josh. And they're like, oh, there's an Adam Myers. That's me, Josh. Adam Myers. And we go down, pay the 50 bucks. I treat obviously. And dude, this is what's cool. I go, we got to get upstairs because it's going to be crazy. We walk upstairs, it's. And it's literally 10 minutes before he's about to go on. There's. The room's half sold. He only sold half the room. You know why? And I get it. He wanted everybody to be comfortable. He didn't want this to be crazy. I can only assume an 82 year old man, you know. And dude, if you look up, we're at, we're on the floor with everybody. If you look up in the rafters, it's a who's who of, of dude Elvis.

[B]

I know the snl I know, but not.

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But, dude, it's. I think it was even. You know, you have Anne Hathaway, Jerry Seinfeld, Carol Leifer. You have Sean Lennon, Yoko Lennon, little Steven, Amy Schumer. The owner of the Patriots is there. Robert Kraft, you know, with the hottie dude. It's just the who's who. And me and Burr are down on the floor. And. And it was magical. You know, it was. He opens with Can't Buy Me Love, and then he did about 80% Beatles, 15% Wings, and then 5%. I couldn't place it. And now here. Here's the coolest shit. This is why I love this podcast. Is so we. That day. No, the day before, we did Elvis Costello. Miamis true. I see Elvis up there. I've got the. I've got the pink hair now, right? So I stick out. Obviously. He. I'm. I'm looking at him. He looks at me. I give him the I love you. He goes like rock. Like. Like rock. Respect. Fist.

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Sure it wasn't Black Panther Party.

[A]

He was.

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The best. It could have been rock. It could have been rock.

[A]

It was rock. It was rock. Was Roc. Fist.

[B]

Yeah, man.

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It was just an amazing night. Me and Bill just had the best time ever. It. It made me so happy because I was the one that got it. You know what I mean?

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Of course it feels good. And. And also, it's. Dude, it's like. It's a once in a lifetime thing. And my sister's birthday was like, the day before, and I thought for a moment, you know, because I'm bringing Bill, I was like, dude, we're. They're going to see him. We're going to go backstage. We're going to meet Paul. None of that happened. We snuck out. Cool thing. Sidebar.

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Yep. Are you allowed?

[A]

Okay. So happy you're here, by the way. Dude, I'm. You know, I don't. You're coming a lot. You're. You're on this a lot now. You're.

[B]

I know, I know, I know.

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Emily's slipping, but I'll take it. Dude, this is like. It's like. All right, well, we couldn't get you pizza, but we got you cheeseburgers. Oh, it's just as delicious. Perfect. So, sidebar. We're. I look behind us, and Matt Stone from South park is hanging out. And as we leave, everybody is just like. We're all talking to one another, like, can you believe we just saw that? Isn't that the coolest thing? We're glowing. And Matt and Bill recognize one another. They start talking. We sit down with Matt, talk for a half hour at the bar. He's the coolest guy you could ever fucking think he would ever be. He plays drums. Bill pitches my show to him. He goes, well, it just so happens I have a lockout in Tribeca. Let's jam when we're all back in town in a week. So we got a date to hang out. I exchanged numbers. He's going to do the jam. And. And I mean, it was crazy too, Wayne. And I don't know if I've said it on the podcast, I haven't, but I've been.

[B]

What a great convergence. What a great convergence.

[A]

Oh, well, I had been really depressed, man. I'd been really depressed. Really? Yeah, I was in a really.

[B]

Okay, that explains the hair. I get it now.

[A]

I mean, yeah, dude, it's.

[B]

We do stuff from the inside. It's on the outside now, but.

[A]

But I had been really depressed and because I was smoking cigarettes and I was just really not taking care of myself and like, you know, that was one of those things that really made me, brought me out of it. And then that night, not that night, on Saturday night when I quit smoking, dude, I came up with a TV show idea. I'm casting you in it as my manager in the show. Gonna get made. I'll pitch it off air.

[B]

It is.

[A]

It is 100% gonna get bought. Burr is going to executive produce, is.

[B]

Going to know the idea.

[A]

We pitched him the idea. He loves the idea. He loves it. We. But he. And he will. I know he will executive produce it. It's right up his alley too. It's about a one hit wonder. It's great. I'll tell you about it later. You'll love it. That I said, who's. I got to have a wacky zany manager? And I go, oh, fetty Wap, if I that wacky. You're not wacky, but it was between you and Todd Glass. And I go, I'm going, fetterman, thank.

[B]

You, thank you, thank you.

[A]

He needs the work.

[B]

That's what's dripping off of me.

[A]

Bill also mentioned he had gone to see the Led Zeppelin documentary too, and he said the same stuff that you had said.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But. Well, yeah, I know. Burr is as big as.

[A]

I think he's. I think he's.

[B]

Yeah, I think maybe even more.

[A]

I think he is. I. That's what I was trying to get to. I think he is. I think he, he. I mean, dude, he went as John Bonham for Halloween. And that was why when he did the first jam, he dressed. Yeah, he had the whole outfit from Song Remains the Same.

[B]

He has the drum kid. He has the green.

[A]

He bought it. Yeah. And then he got rid of it. He sold it.

[B]

He did.

[A]

He did sell it. Yeah.

[B]

Because a lot of people when they get bottomized like that, they get the clear. They get the Ludwig, Clitty, whatever. The golden clear one. But he got the green one. I was like, ah, that's the best.

[A]

I know. It is.

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It is the best. The one in between. Yes.

[A]

With the ha and the he and the. Did you watch the snl, any of that stuff? Did you watch?

[B]

Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course I watched that. Big tv there was that. The NBA All Star Weekend was also.

[A]

Oh, come you're not watching that, are you? The All Star Weekend. It's. It's garbage.

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I love the garbage. I love it really more. Feed me, Seymour. Feed me. Yeah. It's so good. So good. And then. And then also there was maybe the most exciting hockey game I've seen in years.

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Usa. Know anything about usa Canada is. Or USA World? Yeah, I didn't. I didn't watch it, but I'm on a text chain with big shout out to Yellow Fleece Greg Chait, one of my. My brothers, and my friend Andrew Needleman, who. I've been on a text chain with those two guys for.

[B]

Right.

[A]

20 years. At least. At least 20 years. And you know, we talk sports, we talk movies, we talk politics, and I'm.

[B]

Not a hockey guy, but this was insane.

[A]

It was that good.

[B]

It was insane. I've never, you know, Canada is very. Canada is not happy with this, but Montreal is the most anti American part of Canada.

[A]

Of course they hate us.

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Yeah. Yeah. They hate the rest of Canada, let alone America. So they're. So this is what happened real quickly, before we get good.

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Good. We do. This is. This is this. People want us to talk.

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The. I've never seen this. They sang the national anthem. Had a guy sing the national anthem. Booing during the entire anthem from the whole crowd in Montreal.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Booing.

[A]

That's crazy. That's crazy. Usually they at least show the respect.

[B]

But yeah, they do the. Or shut up or boo at the end or something like. Or don't applaud. But I have never seen full on boo. It's literally. It was like when Sinead O'Connor went to. There's a famous Bob Dylan 30th anniversary concert at Madison Square Garden. This is after she had ripped that Picture of the Pope later. Of course, she's, you know, she's a hero. But at the time. And when she came out, they just booed her. They kind of booed her off stage. And it reminded me of that. It was. And then the USA won in Canada. And, you know, I. Anyway, it was super intense.

[A]

Can we also say this? That's crazy. It must have been weird if you were an American there. You know, how angry you could probably.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At least we didn't all vote for the guy. And we're not all. We're not. But it's like. And it sucks that he's the guy that's. They just assume speaks for all of us. And, you know, listen, if he gets rid of income tax, I'm gonna be the biggest Trump fan in the world, dude. But. But Sinead. The Sinead stuff, man, that. You brought that up, that's. She's a real rock star, man. I. I really love her. We did her album on the pod. I fell in love with her.

[B]

She's passed away. Is that correct?

[A]

She did. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she did pass away. But, man, if you've never live. You didn't listen to that. This is to all the fleece army out there. If you haven't listened to the album or you haven't listened to the pod. We did. It was during the pandemic, right at the beginning. Got my popping the peas. I'm sorry. There's a guy that messaged me about popping the peas. I'm. I gotta be careful with it. And. Dude. Well, I feel like we should talk about it because it's me and you, and we can do it when we sit down with Morty. So everybody. We're doing something. Me. Me, Wayne and Morty are gonna. It's a great idea. I think it's gonna be actually for.

[B]

The only four now. Just. Again, I'm not in this world that much. It's just for the Patreon now.

[A]

Yeah. But, dude, if we blow eventually go up. I think so. I think it could be. I think this should be a podcast. I think we. We talked about me and Morty, you know, because he's. He's one of my best friends. I love him. He's my brother.

[B]

I love him. I just saw him at the kibbutz.

[A]

I know. And he said. He mentioned that he's like, we're doing a thing. And you were like, yeah. And that's big. One, that you went out of the house. Two, that you're doing a thing.

[B]

Can. Yeah, I think I got a name for the podcast with Morty. It's word in edgewise.

[A]

He's. He's gonna do well, I think. I. I really. I really. I told. He knows. He knows. But that's what he. That's why he's special. But, you know, we got great ideas. I love. He's saying, like, we pick us, like, some episodes, we pick a song, and we. We try to argue about, like, what's the best song over a movie. Like, you know, from a scene.

[B]

Oh, that's interesting.

[A]

And we all. We bring one in, and we all talk and discuss it and argue.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And we're all different. You're. You're old. You're about 10. You're not. You're about what, your generation. You're not. Are you a baby boomer?

[B]

Unfortunately, I'm at the end of the baby boom. Yeah. I know it sounds weird.

[A]

He's Gen X. I'm gen. I'm Gen X, too. But I'm like, I'm right there at the Millennial, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, the way you are with the Millennial is the way I am with the Gen X. Yeah. I'm right at the beginning of it.

[A]

So we're all. So we're all like, you're here, I'm here. You know, so we're all like. And it's three different perspectives. We're so different. And I think. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I just want to do it because it gives me a chance to keep spending time with you. And. And I already see Morty on a regular basis, but I don't see you on a regular basis. So even though Emily, we were trying for. I forget who we had for this. And then last second, it just fell through.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. But this is Rod. This is. This should be. I've seen.

[B]

I've seen him live. I know a lot about this guy.

[A]

So do you want to.

[B]

By the way, his name is. And at the time, he was known as Rod the Mod. Did you know that?

[A]

I did. I don't know anything about him other than he removed ribs so he could suck his own dick.

[B]

Okay. That I don't know anything about. Again, we're different. Different generations focusing on the songs, the songwriters, the producers.

[A]

You have some, so why don't you.

[B]

By the way, before we even start, can I just say Rod the Mod Stewart, in my opinion, along with David Bowie and Mick Jagger, best hair. And for frontman and I guess Robert Plant also.

[A]

So. Sure. I mean, I think I Think like, you know, he's got his own. You know, it's really funny because it's like it got stolen by the emo generation, you know that like, poof. And then like down.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I love him.

[A]

You've always been a fan of Rod Stewart. Like you. You jumped.

[B]

Well, I'll. Let's do it real quick. We have a hard out, right?

[A]

We do have a hard out. We. If we could have a show today. I have a. I do. Which you should come back. You got anything tonight? You doing anything?

[B]

Can we just.

[A]

All right. Okay, go ahead.

[B]

All right. So, Rod.

[A]

Please.

[B]

No.

[A]

Please. No. Okay, go ahead.

[B]

So Rod, the Mod Stored is. He's an interesting character in the. In all of this. And he's connected to so many pod. So many episodes that we've already done already.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I'll show you how he all weaves into the whole thing.

[A]

Please weave it along.

[B]

But he turns. But he's. He's like a rock star that became a. Like a crooner. Like a singer who just sings cover songs and especially what's called American Songbook, which is basically from the 20s to the 50s, pre rock and roll music. All of the Cole Porterland.

[A]

Now, now. Not to interject, but they do that because it's. All the music is fair use, right? No, it's not. Oh, I thought they were all doing it because just they. Just to make an extra dollar and it's fair use.

[B]

No, this is like baby boomer almost like. I even think it's even older than baby boomer. Like baby boomer music to me is like the Beatles, the Stones, all of that. So maybe a little Elvis. But this is pre. All Pre rock and roll music. He. He released the. If I'm not mistaken. I think his only Grammy Award came from one of those out. I think the third one of like singing these sentimental songs. And he's got this as you. As do you. Raspy voice. We should make a list of the great raspy voice singers of all times. But he's. He's got to be near the top, right? Sure.

[A]

Well, I mean, name another couple. Just so we have like an idea. Besides me.

[B]

Rod Stewart, Paul McCartney. Last night on that show.

[A]

Was it raspy?

[B]

No, it was. Unfortunately. It was. It was. But yeah, I guess maybe, I don't know, Billy Holiday or something like that. Like, it's. Yeah, he's a raspy voice, obviously. Tom Waits. Yes, obviously. You know, who's the guy that wrote anyway? Yeah, so he is a raspy voice singer. So when I first heard the name about Rod the Mod Stewart. He was the lead singer of the Jeff Beck group. Remember Jeff Beck? Oh, yeah, Yardbirds.

[A]

I'm jam with him.

[B]

Exactly. Leaves the Yardbirds. He creates his own band. And the album is called Truth, which is. Have you done that album? It's got to be on this list. I don't know. I would just think it was so and so. You know, Ronnie Wood, who later became part of the Rolling Stones is a big part of Rod Stewart's life. Like he was the bass player in that band, not guitar player in Jeff Beck group. And so. And then one of my favorite. That's the first time I ever heard the voice. Ever heard the voice. And it was like, you know, again, this is the same year that Cream came out. All of these ex Yardbirds playing guitar players started doing their own projects. Two years later, obviously Led Zeppelin. Or actually a year later, Led Zeppelin one gets recorded. So it's. It's a really fertile time for those. For that scene in. In England. And those were the big guitar heroes, you know, Beck, Clapton and Paige. And then of course, Jimi Hendrix from over here, you know. And so. So that's the first time I heard him. And if you ever just want to listen to one song from that album, it would be Superstitious. I ain't Superstitious. I think it's called I Ain't Superstitious.

[A]

I ain't Superstitious.

[B]

No, no, that. That's the Stevie Wonder. It's so. It's incredible and it's just a W. Jeff Beck is just incredible. So. But the album is called Truth. Guitar players, like really know that album. I don't know how well it did over here, but my brother bought it and so that by older. So I listened to it and that's the first time I heard the voice. Like, oh, this guy's got a pretty good voice. Here's the crazy pre echo of what happens later in his career when he becomes this crooner guy. One of the songs on this song, this album called Truth is he does Old Man River.

[A]

Do you know that song Old man river, right?

[B]

Yep. Okay, 1927, again, this is my. I love all these old songs. So that's.

[A]

Is that what you're listening, dude? You guys don't realize there's like Wayne's at the gym and his headphones while everybody else is listening to Metallica. He's listening to Waiting in the Water. Waiting in the water now oh, happy.

[B]

Day oh, I do like Spirit. I just like old songs. Even Before I feel like 1927 is not. Is a newer song, you know, I love by.

[A]

From that era. Like. And I. Tell me it's. It's almost there. I'm gonna up the name. But they. They're always in, like, the old horror movies. It's like, you know. You know, if I didn't care.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Do I love.

[B]

Very Haunting. Haunting, right?

[A]

Very haun. I've. I've listened to, like, on a drive. Like, I. I've listened to their greatest hits. It's phenomenal. It's great.

[B]

Yeah, that lead vocalist is incredible.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So. So anyway, but on Truth, Rod Stork does a version of Old Man River. Here's a little bit of trivia before we get to this crazy great album.

[A]

Is it a sidebar?

[B]

No, it's just a. It's just a little bit of information.

[A]

Okay. What's the info?

[B]

Just information.

[A]

What do you got.

[B]

On that record? There's an organ player doing Old man river. That's John Paul Jones, who later is a crazy session man at that time, becomes the bass player for Led Zeppelin. And playing timpani drums, the drummer from a band called the who.

[A]

I knew it. I knew you were gonna say Keith Moon for some reason. I don't know why, but I got the incredible. Yeah.

[B]

Yep. So it was like. And Jimmy Page is actually on that. Anyway.

[A]

Well, they all knew each other, right? Like, yes. In England. I mean, I'm assuming England's not a huge place, so I'm assuming the cream rises to the top, no pun intended. And. And they're all, you know, Clapton and Jimmy Page. The bird, the yard Birds is a big thing. So, yeah, like, I. I obviously, dude, rock stars all know rock stars. You know, if you're in. If you're in the industry, it kind.

[B]

Of reminded me a little of. I mean, they didn't make a big deal out of it as a collaboration, but, like, when hip hop artists collaborate and, like, they're very. They're very into that. Which.

[A]

Which. Which. I've said this, you know, not many years on the podcast, but it was like, that's what I love about jazz, is that Miles will play with this guy and he'll play with that guy because he's like, I like the way you do that. And that doesn't mean that it's not.

[B]

Coltrane is on this album.

[A]

Exactly. Rock stars don't do that much. When they. When the rock stars do it, it's a super group, and it's a big thing. Like, A velvet revolver or an audio slave or.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, or the. What's the one? Humble Pie. What's the one that. That everybody was like Kenny Law, not Kenny Loggins, but it doesn't make a difference.

[B]

Well, I know Blind Faith was Blind Faith.

[A]

That's. Yeah, same thing. All right, so what were you saying? Good.

[B]

That's it. So that's the first time I heard him. And then I hadn't heard of him again until 71, when this. I didn't know this album. I just knew this single, Maggie May, which went to number one, by the way. This is the most fascinating thing. I'd love you to talk about it.

[A]

What is it?

[B]

Is that was the B side of the single Maggie May. Yes. He didn't think. No one thought much of that. They were just like, let's throw this thing on the B side.

[A]

I mean. Well, yeah, so I see it. Reason To Believe is the first.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The first single off it. So. Yeah. Just so everybody knows our record. I used to do this all the time, but I stopped doing it consistently. I would always say we'd be talking. I go, you know what? Let me take a second. Just so everybody knows we're talking about. Every Picture Tells A Story by Rod Stewart, released May 28, 1971, by Mercury Records. Produced by Rod Stewart. Yeah. So I got. First single, Reason To Believe, Maggie May, and then second one, I Know I'm Losing you, which is a great song. And then obviously the opening track, Every Picture Tells A Story, which is. Which is phenomenal. Yeah.

[B]

No, there was a lot of great singles, though. But that Maggie May, if there. You know nothing about Rod Stewart, nothing about this album of his is that. That would be, to me, his signature song. His most famous song, I think. So that's his Close to you. That's his. Like, this was the one that put him on the map way more than singing Old Man River.

[A]

Yeah. Even the Old man river had some legs. I mean.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Generational.

[B]

So he. And this. And it's a true story. I mean, it's based on a true story. It's about the woman who took his virginity and then he expanded it like he was living with her and stuff. That. It is so damn good. And here. If Rod Stewart's management is listening, and I hope they are, I don't know why that song hasn't been turned into, like, a movie or something like that. Because it's. There's so much information about. It's sort of a flip on sexual. You know what. The dynamics. He was just A teenager with that great head. And then this older woman took to. Took advantage of him. And of course, if it's a older woman and a guy, no one cares.

[A]

No one gives. We root them on.

[B]

Exactly. High five them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you're lucky. What a lucky rod was a lucky dude.

[A]

What's the biggest age difference that you ever had? Do you ever have an older woman?

[B]

I.

[A]

When I was in my 20s, I hooked up with a 45 year old woman.

[B]

No, I never had anything like that. No, I tend to. I don't want to. I tend to screw my age and younger.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's like. But I mean, we were doing coke, you know, she had coke back at her place. And yeah, she didn't take advantage of me. I mean, but I was adorable. I was adorable. I had a good head of hair back in the day. I had the frosted tips. I looked. I was a raver. So I had like the chain ball necklace. I looked like I was, you know, in that, in that band, that Steal My Sunshine band. You remember them? If you steal my sunshine make my world believe if you steal my sunshine.

[B]

Okay, I know, I know. Walking on sunshine.

[A]

I'm walking. You ever see. Did you ever watch the. You ever watched.

[B]

What's her name? What was her name? What was her name?

[A]

Walking on Sunshine. I gotta look that up. I mean.

[B]

No, I don't. This is, this is where we differ. This is where I like to. Because I know it's in my. Oh, I got it. I got it in my brain. Without looking at Katrina in the waves.

[A]

Sure. There you go.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So again, I always try to not look things up because obviously in 10 years we're all going to be permanently hooked up.

[A]

So while I'm living in the neural link.

[B]

Yeah, of course. Got to. It's got to. And so while I'm living in the analog world, I like to like to at least try to access my. That whatever file Katrina and the Waves is in my back of my.

[A]

There's a. There's a. That show Intervention. There's a. Yeah, there's one girl that was like addicted to huffing. She was huffing like cleaner and stuff. And. And she's right. She eventually went.

[B]

How does that work? How does that work? Do you put it.

[A]

No, you just, you just take the muzzle and you put it up to your mouth and you just. And you inhale and your voice gets all like, whoa, this is crazy. And then, and then I. I don't know. I'm Assuming it's like when you do, like, nitrous, so you're just like. And she's so addicted to it, she's losing her mind. And they interview her, and at one point she goes, I'm walking on sunshine. And so, Brian, can you find this while we search the podcast? We'll end the podcast. Type in Walking on Sunshine, intervention. And somebody cut together a song, you know, where it's like, she. It's just her, like, I'm walking on sunshine. Whoa. I'm walking. It's hilarious. Brian, find that. That's how we end the pod. All right, back to Rod. Good.

[B]

Oh, no, no, no. But again. But that's the song. That is the Maggie. But here's the question for you. It seems like the music industry is filled with people like George Martin, when he first heard, you know, one of those Beatles, I was like, that's it. That's your number one. And Mickey Mose, like, I'm into something good with the Herman Sermons and Clive Davis with here, you know, Whitney Houston, go. That's a number one. How can you be that far off on Maggie May? Like, what do you think it is?

[A]

I. I don't know. Is. It's a longer song, right? It's 550 single versions only. Is still 514.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, maybe that was it long. I gotta. I gotta listen to the Reason to Believe. I think that's. I don't. I know I listened to it on the record, but I don't really remember that one as much as I remember. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Reason to Believe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, of course I know that one. Someone, by the way, like you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And he kills it. He kills it, by the way. Sidebar.

[A]

Yeah, I allow it.

[B]

The Carpenters did a cover of Reason to Believe on Close to you, the album I just did with you.

[A]

They did, didn't they?

[B]

Yeah. Crazy, huh? Yeah.

[A]

Good song's a good song, man.

[B]

Tim Harden. Yeah, that song is so good and so that I. Look, that's a really good song. But Maggie May is, I think, just one of the great songs of the 70s. And also said something about Rod Stewart at the time was he was singing rock and roll. But there's a mandolin in that song. Yeah, there's like a country. There's a Southern kind of thing that's going on again in England. They're doing all these songs.

[A]

But they're fascinated, though, by the American culture. So the folk music, the Bob Dylan, it's like. That's the Beatles did. But. No, but what are the. What are the Beatles? What was their. Their folk record? Not Rubber Soul. Is it Rubber Soul or.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. When they did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So, I mean, it's. We, like, they influence us, obviously, but they're taking all the. That we're doing and they're doing stuff with it. So. Yeah.

[B]

No, but it was a real. I just love the recording of it. I love his voice. I love the storytelling of it. I can't imagine there's a concert that he does to this day, and he's still touring. Rod Sword. I was just looking at the thing he's playing with.

[A]

He's playing with Billy Joel at. At City Field. So I'm gonna go to that because I've never seen Rod.

[B]

Okay. Just be ready. He's a little Vegasy. He might be a little Vegasy for. Can you handle it?

[A]

I'm hoping he takes it up to, like, a hundred. I want all of it. I want the showmanship. I want Tom Joe. So he's Tom Jones more than he's. Then he's like.

[B]

Not like that. Not like a bump and grind guy, but just like the backup singers. And you'll. You'll see, it's. But it's fine. It's great. But it's not the Rolling Stones. It's not like a rock and roll. Yeah, it's not a rock and roll. Even though he has these incredible rock songs. Can I also.

[A]

Sidebar, Hit me allowed.

[B]

At the same time this album comes out, he's also the lead singer of another band, Faces. Yes.

[A]

Okay. So.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So tell me. I. That now I'm. Because I. Now I'm. I'm not confused, but I. I want to. Give it to me. Give me all the. Give me all the spilke.

[B]

No, I don't know. I don't know what I. It was just. He was like. To me. When I learned about Ross Stored, he just seemed like a vocalist for hire is what he seemed. Like me. Okay, he'll be in your band. He'll be in Jeff Beck's band. He'll do his own thing. He's got his own deal with Mercury Records. He's got. So that's what it. And eventually that's what became his career. Like, he would guest on other people's records, release his own songs, and he just would have hit very much like the Carpenters. I've hit after hit after hit. And then, unfortunately, he did a disco song called do you think I'm sexy? Remember it?

[A]

Yeah. Bobby Lee sang that on the goddamn Comedy Jam TV show Got Naked.

[B]

If you want my body and you.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I feel like he lost, like, some kind of rock credibility when he did that because it was so dis.

[A]

What about.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

What about the Rolling Stones doing. Yeah, doing a disco song.

[B]

Yeah. But I feel like they recovered. They recovered.

[A]

Sure, sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You say Rob never did.

[B]

I don't know. I. Again, I don't even know what Rod's vision was. You know, he's in the face. They reunite every once in a while. You know, he's in Jeff, but he basically likes to sing. And again, he can write songs, but it seems like he really likes just being a vocalist. Like, I don't know, Nat King Cole or Sinatra or Tony Bennett or something like that. Like, he's from a different. He's just. Anyway, so he has all of these songs. But this is. To me, everyone. I think everyone agrees, outside of one of his eight greatest hits compilations. Yeah, this is the best record of him, if you really kind of want to know. We'll put him on the map, no question.

[A]

So this is it. It's not Faces.

[B]

No Face. No, no, no. Faces was never as big as this. But here's the thing. Many people in Faces are in this. On this Rod store record, including Ronnie Wood before he leaves to join the Rolling Stones. And so it's. You know, he was just. I. It's a very. I can't think of anyone else. Can you think of anyone else who was in. Fronted multiple bands during the same time period?

[A]

Oh, man. No, I can't.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure there's got to be somebody.

[A]

And they're all successful. The.

[B]

Relatively nothing. Like Maggie May was the number one song in the country. And then that album. And that really pushed the album and. Really? Yeah, but. But the biggest hit from Faces was maybe my second favorite Rod Stewart song, which is. Which is called Stay With Me.

[A]

Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God, the arrangement on that tune is so damn good. But then he had, you know, then he had all the Young Turks and all. I'm reading the list right here. You know, some guys have all the luck. Tonight's the night.

[A]

Yeah, these are all Faces songs.

[B]

No, these are all broad store hit singles. So he's like. He's very much like. He's just like a vocalist who has these. And we put out these albums. Albums. And you look, they sold like 80 million copies. Although some people say 120 million. It's always weird.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

With the, the album sales. He's one of the most successful artists of on all Iraq. But he is like a singer, not the, the lead singer of a specific band. In my opinion. That's what Rod Stewart is. And by the way wanted to be a soccer player. What they call football over there.

[A]

I saw that. I see that he's always been into it and it's so funny seeing him in the short shorts with his fucking weird hair.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or as you call it, the best hair.

[B]

I love us there. I remember, I remember on the concert you used to kick soccer balls into the crowd.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Like just as a fun thing. Like he is really into it and.

[A]

Yeah, there's a lot of people. I mean Liam Gallagher, they're all. Every most British people are into, are into football.

[B]

Football, yeah.

[A]

Stuart inducted into the Rock and Roll hall of fame in 94 the UK twice with Faces, I'm assuming. Yeah.

[B]

Yes. Yeah.

[A]

So in 06 the UK, second time inducted in 2012 with Faces he had 10 number one albums, 31 top 10 singles, six of which reached number one, all in the UK. Stewart has had 16 top 10 singles in the US with four reaching number one on the Billboard 100. Knighted in 2016.

[B]

Right. He sir, is received a Brit Award.

[A]

For outstanding contribution music and first ever Diamond Award from the World Music Awards with over a hundred million records sold worldwide. According to Stewart, James Brown called his music. Oh, you know, he called him music's best white soul singer. I think, I think that's George Michael. I think George Michael is the best white soul singer.

[B]

He's pretty good. George Michael's pretty good.

[A]

George Michael's really good.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know, I. Again, I. I'll have to think about soul singers because also believe it or not, the guy from hall and Oats, I guess it's.

[A]

Yeah. Daryl Hall.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

From Philly. Daryl Hole.

[B]

Oh, yeah. He's a pretty good. Because he used to do Temptation songs and stuff like that. Speaking of Temptation songs, there's one of those on the album, but I don't know, it's just beautiful. He's just got a beautiful. It's just a great vocal. He's just a great vocalist all the way around. And it's so weird that he has a new album of, you know, standards again like swing Tongue swing songs that he did With Jules. That guy from England, Jules J O O L S. You don't know that guy? Oh, man. There's a famous British music show where they have live acts.

[A]

Oh, Jules. Jules Holland. I love Jules Holland. I love Jules. If nobody's ever watched that, like, there's so many great clips because he.

[B]

I know, right?

[A]

He has, like, five bands set up in a circle. And then each one does, like. I guess they do two songs throughout the night. But he's like, let's give it up for Rod Stewart. And he turns the band and then they get the light on them and then they play. Dude. Studio records wise. I mean, this guy. I don't. I'm not counting him, but if you look at his Wikipedia, I mean, yeah, he has got 30. I don't know, is it 30? Maybe 24.

[B]

It's a lot. It's gotta be a lot. And a lot of them birthed these singles, you know, birth these songs.

[A]

So what's the one that I really like by him? The one that's like, it's not Forever Young. Wait, no, that's the. So, no, it's. Is it Someone like you? What's the other song that sounds like Maggie May?

[B]

Oh.

[A]

What is that?

[B]

Tonight's the Night.

[A]

If I just wonder then that. When I. Is that. Oh, it is. Is that Reason to Believe? I guess that is reason to believe.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Someone like you.

[B]

Very sorry.

[A]

That sounds very much like Maggie May. Right?

[B]

Yeah. Well, it's. Yeah, it's.

[A]

Same record, flip side, Short. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I keep getting those. That's so confusing because I didn't know that that was called.

[B]

I know. And you would think that song would be called Someone like you, right?

[A]

Exactly. Exactly. It's a little tricky looking at this. I mean, he really does have great hair. Who has better hair?

[B]

Who?

[A]

Who?

[B]

Thank you. Thank you. I think Bowie has pretty good hair.

[A]

Bowie has incredible hair. But it's changed throughout the years.

[B]

Rod changes.

[A]

No, Rod has committed to whatever that is. That.

[B]

That's spiky. Yeah.

[A]

Is that mod?

[B]

Yeah, it's a very mod hairstyle. And sometimes he has a mod with a mullet edition.

[A]

You have to give him respect for that alone. That he's committed for 40 years. 50 years maybe.

[B]

Might be 50 years now.

[A]

I. Dude, I change my hairstyle constantly.

[B]

He's so good. He's so good. But I can't wait for your review of him in concert with Billy Joel.

[A]

I hope it's good.

[B]

I can't wait.

[A]

I hope it's good.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, no, no, he's got the hits. I mean, it's. And by the way, I saw him at Hollywood bowl with special guests, Jeff Beck before Jeff Beck passed away. Wow. And they did I Ain't Superstitious. And they, you know. And it was. But they also did. They had a mild hit, maybe late 80s, early 90s, of people get Ready. People Get Ready. There's a Train.

[A]

Did we talk about that? Was that with you?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, we have. I mean, I was not on the Curtis Mayfield.

[A]

Oh, that was. That was with Godfrey where I said, why? Yeah, black people are always talking about getting on trains. Like, what is it? It's always trains.

[B]

But they did a version of it. That's incredible. Yeah. So, so and so they did that that night. It was really, really fun. Really fun.

[A]

So I'm looking at his set list. He. Yeah. Does Maggie May Forever Young.

[B]

Yep. Let me hear what else for.

[A]

He's doing Love Train by the ojs.

[B]

Wait, has he been touring with this show?

[A]

So this. This. No, this show is. This is the one last time. This is September 13th, 2024.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So this was a while ago. He played this at the Huntingdon Bank Field in Cleveland, Ohio. So probably like a minor league park. Having a Party by Sam Cooke. Great song. Having a party. Gonna have the Love Train.

[B]

Oh, he does that.

[A]

The OJ by the OJs. Have you ever seen the Rain by Creedence Clearwater? Then he.

[B]

Yeah, this is what I'm talking about. His songs. He likes singing other people's songs. He just loves songs. As opposed to like, oh, this is the Rod Stewart show and you're. It's all going to be rod store, so keep going.

[A]

Forever Young. Yes.

[B]

That's Bob Dylan, by the way.

[A]

No, really?

[B]

Yes. Yes, That's a Bob Dylan song. Real name Robertson. Robert Zimmerman is his real name. Yeah, looks like I call him Bobby. I call him Bobby.

[A]

You call him Bobby. Have you ever seen him live?

[B]

Of course. Of course. I saw Bob B, you know, Bobby Dylan, Bobby D. First time he ever played Vegas.

[A]

Really?

[B]

At Bally's? I don't even. Just Bally's. Even. I don't think.

[A]

I think so. I think they reckon.

[B]

Yeah, he played bally the first time he ever played Vegas. You know what I thought? I thought, why not? Why? You know, because it seemed like the antithesis of the spoke singer, you know, but it was like, why not? There's fans in Vegas and. Yeah.

[A]

Still my favorite Bob Dylan thing is the. Yeah. Is him singing on the We Are the World. Stevie Wonder has Got to tell him how to do it. He sings. He sings Bob Dylan to his face.

[B]

It's unbelievable.

[A]

The other thing that was great was when. When Stevie Wonder was like, oh, we should add some, like, Kenyan Jamaica.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Kenya thing. And Merle Haggard's like, I'm getting the out of here. I ain't singing no Jabuki. And just walked out forever young. Tonight's the night gonna be.

[B]

Oh, tonight. Yeah. You know that one, right? That's a big hit.

[A]

How's that go?

[B]

Well, I hate to sing just the Court. Tonight's Then I Ain't Gonna Be. Oh, that's terrible.

[A]

That was great.

[B]

Forget I ever did that. But it's very catchy.

[A]

Clip it. Very.

[B]

Yeah, clip it. Get rid of that.

[A]

That's ours. No, I was gonna say that's our Instagram clip. Yeah. It's Heartache by Bonnie Tyler. Then he does Maggie May. Then he does I'd Rather Go Blind by Etta James. He does the Young Turks.

[B]

Oh, well, he does do a soul song if he's doing Eddie James. Yeah, he does.

[A]

He does the Time Young Turks.

[B]

That's one of his hits. Yeah.

[A]

He does the Downtown Train. Is that, you know, Donut Leave here tonight. Is that Downtown Train?

[B]

I don't. I think that's tonight. Tonight.

[A]

Oh, okay, wait. I was on a downtown train and see, you didn't. I guess that is. See, that is tonight's tonight.

[B]

I know you got. You got a show you're doing in an hour. What else is on the set list? I'm very curious.

[A]

I'm going. I'm going. Downtown Train. The rhythm of my heart. I'm so. He does. I'm so Excited by the Pointer Sisters.

[B]

This is what I'm talking about.

[A]

Lady Marmalade.

[B]

Oh, he does that.

[A]

Does Lady Marmalade. Rhythm of her Heart. First cut is the deepest. Cat Stevens. He does have. I told you lately that was a big song for him, though, right? Yeah, I told you lately. I remember that. Yeah.

[B]

For the ladies. For the ladies.

[A]

For the ladies. He got. He. Oh, dude, you're gonna trip out. He does it Takes Two by Not Rob Bass and Easy Rock. He does it. I don't know who that is. That's Kim something. Then he does. Some guys have all the luck.

[B]

Luck.

[A]

And then what?

[B]

And guess what. Guess what. He's one of those guys.

[A]

Why do you think that? Just because his career or just, like, he's had Incredible.

[B]

Yeah, the whole thing. Like, incredible thing that he looked that good. He had the hair. He had the voice and he cooked up and he. With the right producers and songwriters.

[A]

What do you think he closes with? I mean, you take a guess. What do you think he's closing with?

[B]

Well, I'm hoping it's stay with me.

[A]

Nope.

[B]

No. God damn it.

[A]

It's not playing it. He's not playing it.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

On the set list.

[B]

Okay, let me. Let me think. Hot legs. Do you think I'm sexy?

[A]

It's. Do you think I'm sexy?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This. So that's him. That's him. Right? To the critics, like, you didn't like this. Guess what? I'm gonna close.

[A]

Well, hold on. Let's see. I want to see. Like, if you go to his Spotify. Yeah, we always. Dark lord Spotify, Rod Stewart. He's getting 11 million monthly listeners. Yep. Number one song is not Maggie May, it's do you think I'm Sexy? With almost 350 million streams.

[B]

Oh, there you go.

[A]

I like Morty. Morty turned me on to sailing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Sailing is also.

[A]

You turn me into that. Yeah, yeah. Have I told you lately, it's all on their young turks. But. But yeah. Do you think I'm sexy Is this big thing. Chris. He's got a Christmas.

[B]

Because it's a dance song. Because it's a dance song. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it's probably. I'm assuming the audience is just women in their. In their late 50s, early 60s, just that old and lube themselves up and let him have their way.

[B]

Engelbert Humperdank style is incredible. I mean, yeah. Top.

[A]

My. My grandmother used to think Perry Como. She would. She would have like. She would have Perry Como in a second. Was he good looking Perry Como or is he just a regular dude?

[B]

He was like. He was very. He was an up. He was like Karen Carpenter. He was an up close, very intimate kind of singer. So women loved him. They thought they. It was like whispering in your ear, kind of singing. Very casual. The whole joke about him was like he was. Whenever people did jokes about him, they would start singing and then fall asleep. Like, that was like sort of the. That's how. Or if they cut to him, he's lying on a couch.

[A]

Yes. That was a. That was like the. I. I think. Was it.

[B]

What was that?

[A]

Saturday night Live or somebody did a sketch about that.

[B]

Yeah, that was very good. I mean, is relaxed as relaxed can be? Yeah.

[A]

God, it's so crazy. I. You know, all these guys that we love now, they're all just gonna start slowly, so they're all gonna like that's why you have to go see Rod Stewart now. That's why you have to go see Billy Joel now, dude. That's why.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Paul McCartney's 82. Still putting on a show, though.

[B]

Still putting more show, if I'm not mistaken. Born June 1940.

[A]

I'm not even going to check that because I know you're right. Yeah, I know you're right. I'm not going to make you look bad if you're wrong. You said it confidently.

[B]

I did. I did.

[A]

So that's the Go ahead.

[B]

Yeah. He's not the youngest beetle. That's George.

[A]

Is George the second one to die? But, but, but I bet John Lennon would still be alive today, though.

[B]

Yeah, he. John is a few months younger than Ringo was. Ringo's the oldest.

[A]

When he played Drive My Car, Wayne. I, I, I. It was. There was as much of a mosh pit that you could call it. Everybody started jumping. Burr started jumping like, dude, bur was smiling ear to ear. I really would have loved if he played. I wanted Band on the Run so bad.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Didn't do Ban on the Run. He did do.

[B]

He did do Lady Madonna. He did Lady Madonna, Right?

[A]

Lady Madonna. He also did Let Me Roll It.

[B]

That's. Yeah, that's almost in every concert he does. That's like. I feel like outside of Live and Let Die and Ban on the Run, that's like his favorite wing song. That song is so good.

[A]

I mean, good the. I mean, I brought it up to us and because I said I wanted to talk about it when we do the thing, but it's like, you know, the Rock and Roll hall of Fame put out there. Put out their list.

[B]

Listen, we're getting near your heart out. We're getting near your heart I know we just want to make.

[A]

We've got, we got. That's what I'm saying. We got eight minutes.

[B]

Okay, well, let's do the, the final thing. Your final question.

[A]

All right, let's do this.

[B]

All right.

[A]

What's your. Oh, by the way, hold on, let me see if there's any. Is because JT is not here, so I don't think there's really anything we need. I think we covered everything that we need to cover for this episode. What's your favorite song? It's got to be Maggie May, right?

[B]

Of course. You know me. You know me. You're inside my brain. You know I don't say anything.

[A]

What is, What's. Is there anything you skipped over?

[B]

Well, you know, I don't love Seems like A long time in Mad Mandolin wind are the ones I would say. But he does do a great version of that's All Right, Mama. The old Elvis. I know it is Elvis tune, but it's a. Oh, he does.

[A]

Yeah, that's all right. Yeah, he's. He really does have a strong voice. There's a reason, like. And what's good about a singer like him is when you have that raspy voice at a early age. You know, he's. Yes, he's hitting high notes, but it's. It's. It's. It's already raspy. So the older he gets, it just adds more character to it. Yeah.

[B]

Well, I'd be curious what. When you see him in concert, what you think. But those are the two again. These are re. It's. This is a great album. This album, I think went to number one like it was, but it was driven by the success of Maggie Bay.

[A]

Here I'm looking. And then statistics. Hold on. This is.

[B]

And then I'm losing you. Do you know that song at all?

[A]

I'm losing you. I'm losing you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's an old Temptation song.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Just a great version.

[A]

Great version of it.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So this is the only Rod Stewart record we're talking about. On the pod. It doesn't say anything about Faces, but on the 2020 RE rank, this actually dropped only five spots, so it didn't go too, too far. It doesn't say the sales for this, but it was a number one record. That's what you said, right?

[B]

I'm not sure about that, but I know it was close and I know it was huge album. I know it put him on the map, especially here in the United States.

[A]

I'm looking right now. Hold on. It went to number one, both UK and the us yeah. And finished third in poll by the jazz and pop.

[B]

No, I do. Like 1971 was his, like his year. Like, he was like the pop. The rock guy of the year. He could sing rock, he could be sensitive. Like he. Vocally, he was just. People went nuts over him in that. This year seven. It came out in 70 or 71.

[A]

71. And. And here's crazy thing. Everybody from the. From Faces plays on this record. Rod. Yeah, yeah. So you've got. You've got Pete Sears, you got Ronnie Wood. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's.

[B]

And then just a sidebar, all out. Ronnie Wood, of course, ends up leaving Faces to join the Rolling Stones.

[A]

Yes, he does. Replacing Brian Jonestown, who died, right?

[B]

No, no, Briantown is already Gone. Mick Taylor, who was back to John Mayall and the Blues breakers, the guy that took Eric Clapton's place. So we.

[A]

Yeah, it's all. Dude, it's. There should be a board up, like one of those, like, crazy. Those crazy serial killer boards. And it's like, it all goes to Daniel Lanois. It all leads up to Daniel Lanwa.

[B]

Yeah. So it would be great if it all led to Professor Longhand.

[A]

Okay. Even funnier. Yeah. That's. That's why you've been comedy longer than I have. It all comes to Bobby Blueblade.

[B]

But, no, he's still kicking it. And I can't wait for you to see the show. So thank you for asking me to do this.

[A]

I was like, hey, wait, wait, wait. Don't say goodbye.

[B]

Don't say goodbye.

[A]

I'll clean it up for you. I'm gonna clean it up for you. Can you make out to this record? Can you neck? Can you neck or heavy pet?

[B]

Yeah, well, I mean, there's someone like you. Come on. You can say that right in your ear. It would be great. Yeah, yeah. Not to. Maybe I'm losing you, but definitely to that song. So funny. They thought that was going to be the hit.

[A]

I know that.

[B]

Which is. And it is a good version of it.

[A]

Don't get me wrong version of it. But it's not the song. It's not the song. It's not the song. The song is Maggie.

[B]

But that's my. Let's. I have to say that's one of my favorite things in music. Music is when the people that produce no music live. It's in their veins. They don't even know what the hit song is going to be.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, sometimes it just smacks you right in the face and you're like, of course.

[B]

Most of the time. Most of the time.

[A]

Well, that's why I loved Motown. Is that Motown, you know, they would sit in a room and they would say. They go, all right. They listen to the record. They go, what's the hit? They go, is this a hit? This is what they think is a single. Is this a hit? And then they would. They would all vote. And if it didn't get the majority, they wouldn't make. Make it a hit. I love. Dude, that was one of my favorite tours ever, was going to that Motown. I had this phenomenal, like. Like, very flamboyant, gay tour guide. He was just big and black. And I love. I love an overweight. I love any overweight black individual. They're always great. But I Love like females got the sass and the gay has the sass too.

[B]

I always feel like the. Because there's a little bit of. Or a lot. A lot of like anti gay stuff in the black community. So if you are black and gay and decide to come out, it's always like a 10. Yeah, it's. It's always not like a subtle.

[A]

Yeah, I don't give a. Like all y'all.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I suck a dick right here. They really do have the really beautiful.

[B]

It's really beautiful.

[A]

And what would be. How do you explain this record to somebody? What's your elevator?

[B]

Oh, well, one of the great vocalists of the later parts of the 20th century. A guy named Rod Stewart who sold. And there's many great vocalists. Whitney Houston, you know, Mariah Carey. There's many. I put him in that category. A great vocalist who covered. Not only covered old fashioned songs, old. Old timey songs, like, but also was at the like just a. I don't. But this is the album for it. This is. If you only want to know one thing about Rod Stewart. You don't know anything about Rod Stewart. It's Maggie May. And now based on what you just told me, I hate to say it, but it might be. Do you think I'm sexy? Like the song that he got so much criticism from.

[A]

It's not bad.

[B]

People love that song. And it is a. It's a banger, right?

[A]

Like you can hear the. You know why it's catchy. It's like. Yeah, it's. It's the same thing. It's just like. It's like a cold. You just that. Yeah, it's great.

[B]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's a great song. It's a great song.

[B]

The synthesizer. Yeah, it's a great song. So anyway, and he stood the test of time. He's still selling out big arenas. I don't. It's not stadiums. Unless he's touring with somebody named. From long.

[A]

From Long Island. Here, let's do this. I don't want to do the. The. The top. Because we can. But I feel like we got to talk about that with Morty. Even though Morty gets mad about it. He gets mad talking about the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[B]

I mean, you know, it's just misnamed. It should be. It should be called what the Pop.

[A]

Music hall of Fame.

[B]

I don't even think that's right. I think it's music we like hall.

[A]

Of fame music that John. Jan Werner.

[B]

Yeah, it's like music we like hall of Fame and it's too bad. But, you know, it's fine. It's fine. I. I like celebrating music. I like being part of preserving legacies.

[A]

So do I. So do I. So I really do.

[B]

Does that. I'm all for it. Whatever. You know, they. They messed up with the original title. They realized they were boxed in, that it was mainly going to be white guys, except for Bobby Blue Bland and all of the, you know. You know, all of the influencers.

[A]

Get him in. Is he in? He's in, right?

[B]

I think so. I think, yeah. But it's all the influencers. And then it was like, oh, all right. This is. We gotta cut to Madonna. And they gotta get.

[A]

They gotta sell tickets.

[B]

You gotta sell tickets. It's a business.

[A]

There's a reason that Jeremy Piven will get a improv spin spot over. Over me. It's like he. You guys sell tickets. All right, so Bad Company, Black Crows, Mariah Carey, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker, Billy Idol, Joy Division, Cyndi Lauper, Mana, Oasis, Outkast, Fish, Soundgarden and the White Stripes. I have never been more confident that this is the year that Soundgarden will get in. I really gotta.

[B]

Yeah, they're a guitar band, right?

[A]

Yeah, they're a guitar band. He's one of the greatest rock and roll lead singers of all time. You know, Sad Death. Had a. You know, but incredible career. Outcast. Not Outcast. Audio Slave. And I think.

[B]

Wait, he died free.

[A]

He killed himself.

[B]

He killed himself?

[A]

Yeah. I think it was an autoerotic. But they don't know.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know.

[B]

That's the worst kind of erotic, right?

[A]

Yeah. The auto erotic. And if you ever. If you ever want to hear a good joke about it, it's. It's the. The. Oh, no, no. McDonald's has a great joke about. About hanging yourself. And it's like, it's either to end the pain of this lonely world or. Or to whack off. I. I think who I picked. I said. I said Outcat. When I said Soundgarden, Oasis, Cyndi Lauper, Billy Idol. I would probably. I think Mariah Carey's probably gonna get in, but I would say. Oh, did I say Joy Division, too? New Order. Yeah. And then. And I think I picked. They do Outkast, Outcast. Yeah. I. I don't know, man. Who do you think out of that?

[B]

Well, I. I like the rock act, so that's where I'm gonna lead. I'm gonna lead with all of that. I mean, I. How is Billy Idol not.

[A]

I Know, that's. And Cindy Lauper, too.

[B]

I don't think of her as a rock act.

[A]

And Chubby Checker, you would think with the twist alone, he should have been in years ago in one of, like, the early 90s inductions. I don't think the Black Crows, their first ballot this year. They're not getting in, Fish. I said the same thing.

[B]

They're not getting in, by the way.

[A]

Not yet. Not this year. Not this year.

[B]

Too hard to handle. Too difficult to handle.

[A]

The Black Crows. Oh, did you read that book?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, my God, Wayne. And this is. I didn't do. So I'll say this, and then we'll end it, then I'll get out of here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. So they did a tour with. If you. If nobody's read the book, read the book. The book is phenomenal. Steve Gorman, the former drummer, wrote an expose. So they. They do three records. None. They're. They're starting to fall off. And out of nowhere, Jimmy Page, who's jammed with them and Robert Plan or something, like, really takes a liking to them. And he's like, I want to do these shows and I want you guys to be a part of it. And they're like, we're in. And so they do like six shows. I think the Greek, they did a couple.

[B]

I was at. I saw the Greek one.

[A]

Yeah. So they recorded that one and it became a live record and. And then they release it. And, dude, because of the. Of the. Those. Those shows, Jimmy offers them a world tour. Like 50 or 60 dates all around the world, sold out, co headlining or on the off night, they'll be using the same crew as the whole. So Jimmy Page, the Black Crows one night, the next night, the who, then they go to another city. It's a dream come true. It's a Cream dream, dude. And Jimmy is. Loves them and he's doing all the interviews, and so they do the Tonight Show. Oh, by the way. And the Black Crows, because of the hype they get. The record deal ends with whoever it was, and they get offered five records. $5 million dollars. It's a great deal by Virgin Records.

[B]

By the way, they had already had hits before. They did.

[A]

They did.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, but they had that.

[A]

But they. But they were falling off. Grunge came out. You know, they weren't.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

They're not. They're not a hair metal band, but, you know, they're. They're rock. They're a rock and roll band, but, you know, Southern rock, but they're falling off. So they need this deal. And they signed the record deal. They agree to do the tour. Jimmy is like a little kid playing with that. He's. He's like. He says to me, he's like, I've never been this happy since I played with Led Zeppelin. Cut to. They do the Tonight Show. And after the Tonight Show, Steve Gorman hears from the manager of his band. He goes, jimmy left. They're like, why? He goes, well, he. I forgot to mention, he was having back issues. And they got this guy to fix his back, and he was acting weird before the back got fixed. Then the back got fixed. He did the show, and he's the happiest guy in the world, but he leaves the tour, says, no, I'm done. He cancels the whole tour because of his back. And then they just go about it. And I guess it was like, Steve Gorman quits the band a few years later, and he sees Jimmy is playing in London with all these famous people. So he's like, well, I'm gonna go. I'll go say hi to Jimmy. Because they always got along. And he sees him, and Jimmy's so happy to see him. And he's like. He's like, yeah, man, you know, I. You know, you left so suddenly. I didn't get to say goodbye. It was. It was your back, right? And Jimmy goes, well, yes, I had back surgery and I needed it, but, like, can I tell you something else? And Steve Gorman's like, you have to also know the dysfunction of the two brothers. Like, they are horrible, right?

[B]

Like the Kinks or Oasis.

[A]

Yes. But, yeah, I think even worse than them. I don't. There's no, you know.

[B]

But even worse, okay.

[A]

They had mentioned something about how they wanted to get back to playing their own songs. I think they hated Jimmy getting all the light and, you know, their egos and blah, blah.

[B]

And so Jimmy says, they played mainly Zeppelin songs.

[A]

I know, I know, but, you know, egos did. He goes, so. So he says to him, can I tell you something else? And Steve Gorman, the way he writes it, he's like, my. My. My stomach just dropped because I knew what was coming. And he goes, so after the Tonight Show, I was glowing. And I was like, man, I love these guys so much, and I want to help them. And I've got all these ideas, and I don't feel like waiting until we're in the tour bus. I want to go talk to him right now. So he goes to Rich Robinson's dressing room, and he says, rich, listen, I know how important this next Record you guys put out is. So let me help you. Like, I'll. I'll write a song with you guys. I'll play on it, I'll pronounce, I write it, I'll produce the song for you, I'll play on it. He's like, and then we'll do another tour and I'll go on tour with you guys and we'll do songs and, and, and we'll do all the interviews together. I'll do magazines with you, photo shoots, whatever you guys need. I love you guys that much. He's like. And then, dude, he's like, I've got all of these riffs that I wrote for Robert Plant that he didn't want to use. So how about me, you and your brother sit down and we work these out and we write some songs together, like real rock and roll songs. And like I said, we'll. We'll make an album and we'll do this and I'll put my name on it and I'll co sign you guys and you guys will be huge because I want to make sure this next record is a big thing for you. And Rich Robinson goes, nah, I'm good, man. He's like, we've already got a bunch of songs that we've written. We don't need yours. And doesn't say anything else, just says that. And Jimmy Page goes, this guy, I know who I am and I know my what? And he goes, this guy mopes on stage every night, you know what I mean? Can't find the enjoyment. He's like this dude. And he just packed. He doesn't even pack his up. He just leaves. Gets on a flight to England and. And that's it. That crazy. Doesn't that kill you? That Jimmy Page says, I wanna, I wanna help you. It's like, it's like the biggest comic in the world being like Carlin saying to you, I want to help you. Like, I wanna.

[B]

I know, I know, I know. It might, it might be ego thing or maybe they didn't like. Yeah, I. Wow, that's heartbreaking. That's heartbreaking. Yeah, I know. One of the shows they did was in Jones Beach.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

In New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd. It was. That album is incredible. And they do. And they do. One of the songs they do is the old Yardbirds, Shapes of Things. They do that song.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's the song that kick that Eric Clapton was like, I'll play on the record. And then I'm quitting the band because this is not what I want to play. And I love that song.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

So again, all back to Yardbirds. All back to Yardbird. And then Professor Long Hair and then Bobby Bootle.

[A]

It's all connected to long hair, Dude. Promote away, dude.

[B]

Well, the big thing, and you mentioned it earlier, is I'm working on a. I'm allowed to say it now, producing with Judd Apatow documentary on Norm MacDonald. So I've been doing a lot of interviews with people from Ottawa, and that's the first. That's where he started doing stand up and then Toronto before he even came to America. So I'm loving it. And it's. It's gonna be incredible. It's on Netflix. Yeah. Yeah. So it's. I love that guy. I knew him. Not well, but knew him enough. I have some text messages from him. They may make it into the doc. I doubt it.

[A]

I. I doubt. One of my biggest regrets is I got offered to open for him at Mark Ridley's in. In Michigan. And I. Yeah, there were. There's no money. It would have been. The flight would have basically been what I made. And. And I turned it down. And I wish I would have. I didn't even think about, like, because I was just broke. So it was like the idea of, like, not making any money. But, dude, just to be able to hang out with a goddamn legend, like, that would have been everything.

[B]

What a cool guy anyway. But troubled. Very troubled guy. Here's a little thing. Never drove.

[A]

I didn't know that. Yeah, I know. He was a general gambler.

[B]

Yes. His. Mark Marin is one of the greatest. I mean, it's so heartbreaking to listen to that Marin. It's one Mark does an incredible job getting him to open up about that. It's just beautiful.

[A]

I'm gonna listen to that probably tonight. Then I gotta split. I love you.

[B]

Later, brother.

[A]

I will, I will. I'll reach out to you about. About Morty and stuff. We'll set that up. And if we don't.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, we'll do it.

[A]

We'll do it soon. Okay. Don't worry. What did I tell you? What did I tell you? The one and only Wayne Federem. Follow him on all social media @instafetterman, on Instagram and Federman at Twitter or X, whatever you call it. And for new music this week, Distrokid has picked us. Don't Wait Too Long by Paul Karak. You can find links to the music on our website, the500podcast.com. And if you were in a band or directly influenced by one of these albums are seeing more music featured on the 500 podcast website. Send us your song to 500podcastgmail.com and we will play it next week. It's the Birds with the notorious Bird Brothers. Dig into it. It's from 68. See you soon. Thanks for listening. If you think time will change your ways don't wait too long.

[B]

When your.

[A]

Morning turns tonight who be loving you by candlelight if you think time will.

[B]

Change your ways don't wait too long.

[A]

Maybe I've got a lot to learn Time can't slip away Sometimes you've gotta lose it all before you find your.

[B]

Way.

[A]

Take a chance, play your part make romance it might break your heart but if you think the time will change your ways don't wait too long it may rain, it may shine Live will age like a fine red wine but if you think the time will change your ways don't wait too long maybe you and I've got a lot to learn why waste another day.

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

You got to lose it all before.

[B]

You find your way.

[A]

Take a chance, play your part make romance it might break your heart but if you think the time will change your way don't wait too long don't wait too long too long don't wait too long times.

[B]

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