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- [00:00]
Adam Friedland
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2 Chainz
I lit this weed up. It bothers you? I didn't know. I'll pimp with you, dude. I don't think you need it. Come on, bro. Dude, it's not lit. You gotta lit it. Light it.
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Adam Friedland
I know, I understand. I've smoked weed before.
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2 Chainz
This ain't from New York, baby. And those guys on the other side selling some. There you go. That's it. I just went on that punch. Yeah, one more man. One more Piff.
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Adam Friedland
I'm good, I'm good.
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2 Chainz
One more piff, bro. You gotta do at least three, bro. Ten. Nine.
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Adam Friedland
Oh my word.
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2 Chainz
Eight. Seven. Six. Five, four, three. His glasses fogging up. Two. One. Yes, sir.
- [04:27]
Adam Friedland
Wow.
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2 Chainz
Fucked around and found out, huh?
- [04:35]
Adam Friedland
SAO and welcome to a very special episode of the Adam Friedland show. I'm Adam Freedland. My guest this week is Grammy award winning rapper and newly minted author, 2 Chainz. I won't lie to you audience. This was one of my most challenging conversations of my entire life. Mr. Chains was immune to my charms as an interviewer. He deftly dodged each query as I scrambled on my back heel to find a way in. I sucked. I sucked up. I copycatted. I even tried to ingratiate myself to him via shared use of psychedelic drugs. This interview changed me and I'm sure you'll see that. And maybe not for the Better. I don't know. I'm still figuring that out. So please enjoy my conversation with 2 Chainz. Ladies and gentlemen, his new book, the Voice in My Head is God. Everyone please welcome two Chains. I can't believe it. I cannot believe it.
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2 Chainz
Sir. What's up? What's up? What's up?
- [06:06]
Adam Friedland
Nice to meet you.
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2 Chainz
How you doing?
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Adam Friedland
I am a big fan. I really appreciate it. Not to complain or take it. I complain a lot. But, like, you're 65 already, and then
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2 Chainz
you have these big furry Balenciaga boots.
- [06:21]
Adam Friedland
I know, but it's giving you maybe like six, seven right now.
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2 Chainz
Yeah, I'm six five. And then with these shoes on, I might be about 6 7.
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Adam Friedland
I think it's a little egotistical, perhaps.
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2 Chainz
No, I mean, I love myself. What can I say?
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Adam Friedland
You grew up playing ball. That's right.
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2 Chainz
Yeah, I did a little balling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Adam Friedland
What was your. What was your, like, game? You were at guard.
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2 Chainz
I think I was a great pass or a great playmaker. I have a really, really beautiful looking jump shot. It's pretty, pretty.
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Adam Friedland
What's your NBA comp?
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2 Chainz
Oh, a comp for me probably would be currently. Currently in the league right now. Let me just think. Who was in the All Star game for me?
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Adam Friedland
Steph.
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2 Chainz
Not Steph. Steph. He has the range. I'm more of a playmaker. Who are. Who think Halo, this and All Stars, Ant Man Jalen or Ant Man.
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Adam Friedland
Ant is something, you know, who's got like.
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2 Chainz
Ant is nasty, you know.
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Adam Friedland
Oh, he's the. And he's also like, happens to be the most. The funniest guy. Like, he has that Chuck thing where he's like. He could. He's funnier than any comedian.
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2 Chainz
Well, Ant is, you know, from Atlanta. We just have great personalities.
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Adam Friedland
Did you see that clip of him meeting Obama? Ant was like, I will cook you. Like, he didn't care that it was the president, like, any place, anytime.
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2 Chainz
Competitive. Competitive nature, man. Yeah.
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Adam Friedland
I actually. I watched a clip of you saying you're. You're. Not that this is pertinent at all to the interview, but saying you're top five. And we have an identical top five in NBA. Really? For the NBA? Yeah.
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2 Chainz
What is it?
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Adam Friedland
Because I put Shaq and Steph in the top five.
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2 Chainz
Okay.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah.
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2 Chainz
And what else?
- [08:09]
Adam Friedland
We got Covid, Bean, Braun, mj. Shaq and stuff.
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2 Chainz
We got the same.
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Adam Friedland
We have the same. Same kind of guy. LeBron produced an album for you.
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2 Chainz
Not produce. Produce would mean he would have actually made the track.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah, I know. He was an executive producer, executive produce. He was like the Suge Knight of your.
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2 Chainz
No, no.
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Adam Friedland
Well, not. I'm not saying he dangled anyone from. By their angle. Anyway. I'll stop talking. No, I gotta stop.
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2 Chainz
Braun is a great friend of mine, great friend of the family and friend
- [08:40]
Adam Friedland
of mine as well. UTA, Clutch Sports Family, my agency.
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2 Chainz
Okay. Shout out. LeBron, he came to the crib in LA, and he is a huge. Like, we always see him on Instagram, like, playing artist music, right? Like, supporting artists. And we haven't seen any other basketball player to his greatness do that. Not Jordan. Rest in peace, Bean. None of those people. So him being the biggest basketball player in the world, sitting in the back of the Maybach, supporting different artists music, it was something that I took to. I had him come over. I played about, I don't know, over 20, 30 songs, and then him and I kind of narrowed down the album, and that's how he was a part of my album.
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Adam Friedland
Now there's a famous clip of that, of LeBron inventing the deluxe album. Oh, man. You've seen the clip.
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2 Chainz
I mean, you know what? During that time, people really weren't doing that. I mean, deluxes had started, and they fade just like anything. They fade away, come back, and all of that. So at that time, I don't think he thought he invented it. I just thought he was coming up with a good idea at that particular point in time.
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Adam Friedland
I would say he invented it. And he also dominated in the dead ball era, the three ball era, and invented the Deluxe album. Let's give it up for LeBron James. No, but I grew up a big Kobe fan. I'm a Laker fan. I love Cobra, and I know that. I know that. Were you guys the same class, like, in high school?
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2 Chainz
Like, were you? No, no. But I just. Just like with anything else, his Mamba mentality, that whole. His whole. His aura was just, like, on the court, off the court. You know, I saw him off the court a few times. He just was someone that automatically just demanded that attention, man. Very detailed. Yeah. From me being around him, just even talking basketball with him out, I remember having a full conversation about hooping with him, like, after a game. So rest in peace to the goat.
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Adam Friedland
I saw that you. Maybe this isn't true, but that you did AAU growing up. And did you play against Sharif Abdurrahim?
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2 Chainz
I know Sharif.
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Adam Friedland
That was. Because that's a. Streets we'll never forget. Like, guy who I think is overlooked a lot in terms of just, like an absolute killer.
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2 Chainz
Sharif Is. He's definitely a killer. Sharif is, you know, with the G League. He's involved with the G League. He almost runs the G League. I'm not sure what his. I don't want to get his title confused or messed up, but I literally just ran into him. I was walking out the restroom. He's walking in at one of the College Park Skyhawks game in Atlanta, like, I don't know, not even a month ago.
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Adam Friedland
You're an owner, right?
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2 Chainz
I'm a minority owner of the Skyhawks in Atlanta, yes.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah. And that's your neighborhood that you grew up in?
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2 Chainz
Yeah. Yeah.
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Adam Friedland
How's that feel?
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2 Chainz
It feels wonderful, man, being, I don't know, five miles from my high school. Not even, I don't know, maybe five. Yeah. Six miles from my high school. Me being from the area, the owners of the Hawks, you know, noticing that, realizing that involved me into something new and refreshing for the city. So, yeah, just, you know, it feels like I was at the right place at the right time.
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Adam Friedland
There's no reason to have a lot of money unless you have your own squad. That's my. That's my, like, taking life if I ever.
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2 Chainz
That's what most billionaires. That's how they think.
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Adam Friedland
If I ever have enough money. Like, if you're just a billionaire and you don't have your own team.
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2 Chainz
Yeah.
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Adam Friedland
You're just. I don't know what. Trying to.
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2 Chainz
I didn't look at it like that, but I'm sure as a billionaire, it's something that you have to do, like, a subtle flex to let them know, like, I'm a. I'm a billionaire. Billionaire.
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Adam Friedland
I really. I want to get into your book. Tell me about, like, what growing up in College park taught you and, like, you know, how, like, what it. How it molded you.
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2 Chainz
I guess College park molded me in many ways. It taught me resilience. It taught me some independence. Did most of my adolescence growing up in College Park. I got there, you know, early ninth grade, built a lot of relationships. You know, I got a lot of my social bandwidth from College Park. So it just means, you know, means a lot.
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Adam Friedland
How. How did. What was it like seeing Atlanta become Atlanta in terms of, like, national profile when it came to music? Because, like, for. For a while, like, when I was younger, it was pretty coastal. Then I remember, like, there was Outkast and Goody Mob. But, like, prior to the, like, beyond that, like, Atlanta kind of, there was no concept. Like, I think maybe Little John or something, or, like, no, we had crunk and, like, like, And Ludacris, maybe.
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2 Chainz
Yeah. Ludacris is after Outcast and Goody Mob.
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Adam Friedland
No, that's what I'm saying. That, like, the only concept anyone had beyond Outkast and Goody Mob, they didn't really have a concept of music from Atlanta until you saw, like, Def Jam
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2 Chainz
South, I would say you had T.I. you had Jeezy. Even before Organized Noise. You had Kilo. We were listening to Kilo Getting ready today. Gucci. Yeah. So you just. You know, Atlanta has went through different periods and different eras, but for the most part, it's been sustainable. And it's like we keep passing the torch to the next and that. And that gives us, like, a lifeline, too. But, I mean, Outkast is when I think they won an award and Andre said about the south has something to say.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah.
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2 Chainz
And then it started being more intentional as far as what we were doing. But Atlanta has always been, like, a city for, like, growth and creativity musically.
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Adam Friedland
Have you seen music become less regional? Like, for instance, like, Too Short, like, went platinum, and he. I think he sold, like, like, 500 records on the East Coast. Music could be west coast on the East Coast. I think on the west coast, he. He went platinum, but, like, so Babe was, like, so regional that, you know, like, in the Bay, he was like, were you famous and, like, a known quantity in Atlanta for a while before you became nationally famous?
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2 Chainz
I think I. Excuse me. I was known in Atlanta not necessarily for my music, though. I was known in Atlanta because I'm like. I played basketball, I hustled. I'm from the streets, so I would be outside. I had. I've had nice cars my whole. Since I've been driving, you know what I'm saying? I've been presenting myself in a nice way far as attire and all that. So a lot of people already assumed that I was doing something, going to do something, or going to be something early on. You can kind of see my trajectory coming up.
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Adam Friedland
You had three cars in college.
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2 Chainz
I did.
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Adam Friedland
How did you, like, get them there?
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2 Chainz
I drove one. Boom. It was in Alabama. So I would ride home with somebody else because Alabama's two hours from Atlanta, and people would literally go almost dating, you know what I'm saying? It was two hours, and it was an hour behind, so you would lose an hour.
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Adam Friedland
That's not bad.
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2 Chainz
Yeah. You know, you'll leave.
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Adam Friedland
And this is a question I had when I was reading the book. I was like, how the hell did he get the three cars up down to Alameda?
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2 Chainz
Yeah, I know. You Thought I took a tow truck, but I didn't. It's literally like people. It's like, how did he do this? Another rap guy lying. No, I had a Cadillac. I had a. I didn't think you were lying Expedition. I just want to let you know I've really been having it.
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Adam Friedland
Like, you're a Division one athlete. You weren't a rapper.
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2 Chainz
And I was Division one in the streets, too. Yeah. So I pulled up Expedition with the tbn, with the beat. Wham.
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Adam Friedland
Eddie Bauer.
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2 Chainz
I pull up with the. Not the Eddie Bower, just a regular black Expedition. I'm not going to lie. I didn't have a Eddie Bower. You know what I'm saying? Mine had the Eddie Bower, had the leather. Mine didn't have leather on the inside. But once again, I'm in college.
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Adam Friedland
You had the xlt.
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2 Chainz
I had the xlt. Come on, man. Come on.
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Adam Friedland
You know, my family had that.
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2 Chainz
I had the xlt, man. I had that and I. Wham, wham, wham. Watching.
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Adam Friedland
You had the Firestone tires. Do you remember that? The Explorer had those tires that kept exploding.
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2 Chainz
No, no, no, no. Mine never exploded.
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Adam Friedland
No, no. Thank God.
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2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I had a. I had a. I want to say like a 93 Cadillac sedan Deville. It was. It was blue. Navy blue, black in there with the rims. With the gray leather. And then I had a. I say maroon. Some people say burgundy, but I had a maroon. Box. Box Chevy on rims. And on Monday, you know, Wednesday and Friday, I swapped cars. And then between Tuesdays and Thursdays, because I was staying off campus, I might. But. Yeah, yeah, that was me.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah. Volvo.
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2 Chainz
Volvo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My cousin Sherrod had a ball. No, he had a Saab.
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Adam Friedland
Those are nice cars.
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2 Chainz
Yeah, they discontinued the Volvo. And the side were, like, Swedish. Yeah, they looked. They were so.
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Adam Friedland
But they sold Volvo to the Chinese. Now, everything is really. Yeah, but I won't get too political with you, right? Let's focus on the book for a second. What is the thesis you want to get across? Like, what do you want people to take away from this book?
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2 Chainz
This is my first piece of literature that I'm putting out for the world to see and to consume. It's called the Voice In My Head Is God. The book is not so much a religious book. It's about intuition. It's about me using intuition as a sixth sense. The voice in this title speaks to my conscience, my intuition. And then when I say God, it's me giving credit to someone much higher than Myself, me giving credit to something higher than my ego. In this book, I talk about how the voice in my head, which is, I assume, is intuition. I assume that it's God because they say God is inside of you and, you know, blessings come from within. So this is just my presentation to the world. And hopefully it helps someone make decisions, helps them make decisions based on their own divine guidance.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah. Trust your gut.
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2 Chainz
Yeah. You get it.
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Adam Friedland
I mean, that's like becoming a man.
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2 Chainz
Basically.
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Adam Friedland
You have, like, one too many relationships with a girl who's like, I cheated on every boyfriend I ever had. You're like, this time is different.
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2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah, you're right. Right, right, Bro, you. You get it. Damn.
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Adam Friedland
This is. I'm different.
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2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly. That's exactly what this is.
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Adam Friedland
When bigger rappers would come through Atlanta, like, you would serve. Like, is that what you were doing prior to rapping?
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2 Chainz
Yeah.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah. Actually, can I. Can I show you something? I have this weed dealer who wants.
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2 Chainz
Is that what his ashtray here? What is ash. Right here.
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Adam Friedland
The ashtray is kind of a classy, kind of like 1960s kind of vibe. I mean, you could. You could do weed if you want.
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2 Chainz
Okay.
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Adam Friedland
Can you.
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2 Chainz
I mean, if you want it. Okay, cool. I.
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Adam Friedland
Okay, I'll piff with you. Dude, I'm not. Really. Honestly, I don't smoke weed. I just feel bad for this guy, so I still buy weed from him because he's had a tough time.
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2 Chainz
What.
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Adam Friedland
What I give it to. I give it to the homeless.
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2 Chainz
That's a good idea. So I've done that before, too. I've. I've. They said they want something and. Yeah, yeah, they done grabbed that. They done grabbed my joint and went on about their business. So I've done that before.
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Adam Friedland
You smoke, like, doinks, and then you, like.
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2 Chainz
You, like.
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Adam Friedland
I saw your ashtray. I saw your ashtray.
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2 Chainz
Where.
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Adam Friedland
It's. It's very wasteful unless you give it to the homeless.
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2 Chainz
I'm.
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Adam Friedland
Your roaches are, like, this long.
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2 Chainz
I think I should start doing that, though.
- [20:21]
Adam Friedland
Well, I mean, it's just like. I mean, you're a wealthy gentleman. I'm not gonna. If you. If you're. Put a towel under the door. Jonah, put a towel. Yo, can I.
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2 Chainz
You don't own this building. You, like, you can own this building. Your parents own this building, right? No, my.
- [20:38]
Adam Friedland
My parents.
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2 Chainz
I want to be sarcastic. Like, let's look at something your parents own, right? Your parents own something like this. Tell me. Come. What?
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Adam Friedland
I literally, like, I literally got no benefits from Jewish I'm not. I mean, it's like. It's a waste of Jewish.
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2 Chainz
I would never believe that.
- [20:53]
Adam Friedland
I swear to God.
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2 Chainz
You. You.
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Adam Friedland
The only person that's ever helped me out was an anti Semite named Nick Mullen.
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2 Chainz
Wet.
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Adam Friedland
Anyway, so my weed dealer, his name is Ari Stern. He.
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2 Chainz
Well, this just. Well, I guess is.
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Adam Friedland
He wants to be a musician too. And I. I want to. If I could play it for you. Can you tell me like, whether or not I should keep encouraging him?
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2 Chainz
No, I don't want to hear that.
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Adam Friedland
No, I think you do want to hear this.
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2 Chainz
I don't want to hear that, bro.
- [21:21]
Adam Friedland
I think you might want to hear this. It's very. It's very.
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2 Chainz
That would. Hey, let me tell you that what people need to hear, it's a song some people not. Not ready for that some people need to hear.
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Adam Friedland
I'm just saying.
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2 Chainz
Let me tell you this.
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Adam Friedland
He asked me if I could play Two Chains, his song about losing his son in custody.
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2 Chainz
What the fuck's so funny?
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Adam Friedland
Well, maybe. Should I tell him to keep going for it? Yeah.
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2 Chainz
Sounds like.
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Adam Friedland
I'm sorry to disobey.
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2 Chainz
You know why I think it could work. Cuz somebody can relate to it.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah? Yeah. Cuz you like. Cuz a lot of people get divorced.
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2 Chainz
Yeah, well, no, it's. People get their child. You don't have to be divorced for you. You don't have to be married to have kids. Some people just lose.
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Adam Friedland
You know any guys that are like really too upset at like about. At family court?
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2 Chainz
No. I don't know.
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Adam Friedland
Gilbert Arenas, he used to tweet all the. Or Instagram all the time about I'm the king of this family court. He used to talk.
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2 Chainz
I like, I like.
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Adam Friedland
But now his kids go in league.
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2 Chainz
Yeah, I like watching. Yep.
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Adam Friedland
Yeah.
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2 Chainz
His kid is like. Well, he has a couple kids that's like that. Woo. Yeah. So I like. I like watching him talk about basketball.
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Adam Friedland
Is. Is. We got to get. Are you doing Project Kobe? Yeah.
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2 Chainz
Halo will be going to the league too. He's 10 years old. He'll be going.
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Adam Friedland
Is he tall like his father?
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2 Chainz
Yeah, I think he's tall.
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Adam Friedland
You're going to the league, young man.
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2 Chainz
Say it so he can hear you.
- [23:05]
Adam Friedland
Say, I'm going. Yeah, okay. What's your game? What's your. Like You're a pastor. Oh, he's humble. He's humble like his father.
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2 Chainz
Yeah. Yeah, right. He's not humble. He humble, but he popping too.
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Adam Friedland
Are you good at 2k? I'll fry you. I'll fry you immediately wait, so I also.
- [23:31]
2 Chainz
He got his game up here in the room. He ain't just, like, talking like, he take his game everywhere.
- [23:35]
Adam Friedland
You're gonna say no to this?
- [23:36]
2 Chainz
Where's my lighter?
- [23:37]
Adam Friedland
Because you get him a lighter and
- [23:39]
2 Chainz
put it down my nerves.
- [23:40]
Adam Friedland
Get him a lighter.
- [23:41]
2 Chainz
You got me listening, doing a R. And we supposed to be talking about money.
- [23:44]
Adam Friedland
This guy lost his kids.
- [23:46]
2 Chainz
If he wants to make a man, I don't care. I got mine.
- [23:50]
Adam Friedland
Here's a song. So
- [23:54]
2 Chainz
somebody just. This is. Should just drop it out.
- [23:56]
Adam Friedland
All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
- [23:58]
2 Chainz
Go ahead. All right. I'm sorry you lost your kids. I'm sorry.
- [24:00]
Adam Friedland
It's not me.
- [24:01]
2 Chainz
It's.
- [24:01]
Adam Friedland
The weed dealer.
- [24:02]
2 Chainz
Lost his kids making songs about it.
- [24:04]
Adam Friedland
And I don't know if I should tell him to stop.
- [24:06]
2 Chainz
No, tell him to keep going.
- [24:07]
Adam Friedland
Because here's the thing. In white.
- [24:09]
2 Chainz
In the white community, I sold weed. And I talked about in the white
- [24:12]
Adam Friedland
community, if your drug dealer wants to become a rapper, that sounds like the worst thing ever. It sounds like he's the worst.
- [24:19]
2 Chainz
Like, oh, so I didn't.
- [24:20]
Adam Friedland
Look, you gotta hang out with him. And then he wants to play you his music, and it's just a punisher.
- [24:25]
2 Chainz
It look like you started stepping back when I lit this weed up. It bothers you. I didn't know.
- [24:28]
Adam Friedland
I'll piff with you, dude.
- [24:29]
2 Chainz
No, no, don't worry about it.
- [24:30]
Adam Friedland
I'll piff. I piffed on Saturday night.
- [24:33]
2 Chainz
I'm getting back into. Is that what the. That's what the Jewish brothers say? No, no.
- [24:36]
Adam Friedland
New York, New York, bro. It's a dead ass New York style. I would say piff.
- [24:40]
2 Chainz
Dead ass.
- [24:40]
Adam Friedland
Yeah, yeah. It's dead ass New York.
- [24:42]
2 Chainz
Dead ass.
- [24:44]
Adam Friedland
What did you say? I don't want you to have no part of this, okay? We want you in the NBA.
- [24:50]
2 Chainz
They got that buckweed up here. That what you say? They got that.
- [24:53]
Adam Friedland
I don't want you. I don't want you. Going down this path your father and I are on.
- [24:56]
2 Chainz
Don't want it at all. They don't want it all.
- [24:59]
Adam Friedland
For me. For, like, one of the most, like, incredible moments that I ever witnessed was that, like, generational run that, like, Wayne was on, like, 2005 to 2008, right? Like, dedication, driving everything going up to the corner, right? And the first time I. I heard you was when he did the hook on duffel bag, right? And you do. Can I.
- [25:21]
2 Chainz
Can I get a. You want to hit it? You want to piff it? I'll piff Yeah, I don't think you need it. Come on, bro. Dude, it's not lit. You gotta lit it. Light it.
- [25:32]
Adam Friedland
I know. I understand. I've smoked weed before.
- [25:35]
2 Chainz
This ain't from New York.
- [25:36]
Adam Friedland
So, like, you tell a story about, like, when you first met him, right? Was it that you sold baby two zips and what happened after that?
- [25:47]
2 Chainz
No. So, yeah, I was in the studio recording and cash money, baby. And those guys on the other side don't look. No, no. You hitting that movie. I see. Go ahead. That's right. You know what you're doing. All right. So anyway, I was selling some. There you go. That's it. I just went on that punch. That good old punch. You got it.
- [26:11]
Adam Friedland
That's me. King of the jungle.
- [26:12]
2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. One more, man. One more Piff.
- [26:17]
Adam Friedland
I'm good. I'm good.
- [26:18]
2 Chainz
One more Piff. Bro, you gotta do at least three, bro. You can't just do like two. Two. Two is two chain. You gotta do three for Adam. You gotta do three, titty boy.
- [26:26]
Adam Friedland
Dude.
- [26:26]
2 Chainz
Yeah, I'm gonna hit a real one, man. Hold it, hold it, hold it, man. Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. 10, 9.
- [26:32]
Adam Friedland
Oh, my word.
- [26:33]
2 Chainz
8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3. His glasses fogging up. 2, 1. Yes, sir.
- [26:46]
Adam Friedland
Wow.
- [26:47]
2 Chainz
Around and found out, huh?
- [26:48]
Adam Friedland
I used to. I tried so hard at being a stoner, and I took like a month off and I realized. And I tried to blaze again, and I realized I was like, I'm tripping on weed. Like all my tolerance had gone away, and I was like. I became like a 14 year old again.
- [27:08]
2 Chainz
What about now? How old do you feel like you are?
- [27:10]
Adam Friedland
I'm back to 14.
- [27:11]
2 Chainz
It looks like it.
- [27:12]
Adam Friedland
You know, the J Boys, we loved Piff.
- [27:15]
2 Chainz
The J Boys. That's cool. That's cool to say. The J Boys.
- [27:21]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah. You could say it. I'll give you the pass.
- [27:23]
2 Chainz
I'll never say. I'll give you the pass. Nah, I ain't going for that.
- [27:26]
Adam Friedland
You can say the J Boys. It's cool. No, we used to love. We used to love to Piff and then listen to rap. We put on Mitchell and Ness. We put one of the.
- [27:37]
2 Chainz
Put on Mitchell and Ness.
- [27:38]
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
- [27:38]
2 Chainz
It's insane.
- [27:42]
Adam Friedland
No, let's go back to it, though.
- [27:44]
2 Chainz
Like this Mitchell and Ness, when y' all put on these jerseys, like one of y' all dad be owning the team or something like that.
- [27:50]
Adam Friedland
No, I got no benefits of J.
- [27:53]
2 Chainz
I'm telling you, I'm not going for that.
- [27:56]
Adam Friedland
What do you think I am? The. The Rothschilds. No, no, no, I.
- [28:01]
2 Chainz
Why you hold.
- [28:02]
Adam Friedland
Why do you think I'm doing this?
- [28:03]
2 Chainz
See the lighter, bro? You got it. So you. You know, you. All right, all right, all right. Go ahead.
- [28:07]
Adam Friedland
So wait, let's. Let's go back to the story. Let's go back to the story about. Wait, what happened? Oh, the bathroom.
- [28:21]
2 Chainz
Yeah.
- [28:21]
Adam Friedland
It's around the corner. So wait, so. So cash money comes to Atlanta.
- [28:27]
2 Chainz
You remember? I thought you forgot because I thought you. I thought you forgot yesterday. I was gonna let that story go
- [28:31]
Adam Friedland
by, but it's a very funny story.
- [28:33]
2 Chainz
Oh, yeah.
- [28:34]
Adam Friedland
But it's like a kind of an anecdote. We clip. We'll say, like, true. Like, two chains. True story. We put like a. Like, lo fi.
- [28:42]
2 Chainz
I don't want to tell the dad.
- [28:43]
Adam Friedland
Come on, dude.
- [28:44]
2 Chainz
We'll find some.
- [28:45]
Adam Friedland
Can I tell the story for you? So he's. So he sells 2 ounces of marijuana. Young man. I don't stick to nevermind. Okay. And then Baby doesn't pay you for it. And then they're like, we're going to Atlanta or New Orleans. Fuck, I am high. Okay, we're going to New Orleans. And. And you're like, fine, I'll ride with you. And then you first met Wayne there in a indoor swimming pool. You piffed. And then at a certain point, you were like, I really do need that $900. And then he paid you.
- [29:24]
2 Chainz
Yeah. That's a great story. Thanks, bro. That's great.
- [29:27]
Adam Friedland
Let me tell you another story. No, when did, like, I guess, like, what was the first moment you knew that you were a known entity, like, outside of your home city? And, like, how did it dawn on you?
- [29:45]
2 Chainz
Oh, man, I'm so high.
- [29:53]
Adam Friedland
I'm interested.
- [29:54]
2 Chainz
No, no, no. When I knew I was. You know, I think it was when I started to. It was before. It was probably before I got my record deal, honestly, because I was so hot in the streets doing, like, mixtapes and just touring the chitlin market. I would go to different cities, the Carolinas, Tennessee, and I mean, and people would just fan out, man. You know, people. Before I even got my record deal,
- [30:30]
Adam Friedland
I knew the words.
- [30:31]
2 Chainz
They knew the words. They knew the vehicles. They would try to follow the vehicles on side of, like, real fans stuff. So I was having fan experiences prior to getting my record deal, and I started realizing that this was something that was gonna be a little bit larger than I expected.
- [30:47]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Was that Dante, or were you ready?
- [30:51]
2 Chainz
I prayed for it, so I believed it could happen.
- [30:53]
Adam Friedland
You believed? Mm. Yeah. You retired. Your mom's oh, yeah.
- [30:58]
2 Chainz
My mom hadn't worked in I don't know how many years. My mom hadn't worked in a long time.
- [31:01]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah. Are you. You're close with your mother?
- [31:04]
2 Chainz
Yes, I am.
- [31:04]
Adam Friedland
Thus, the first day before two chains.
- [31:07]
2 Chainz
Titty boy.
- [31:07]
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
- [31:08]
2 Chainz
From the family. You know, nothing derogatory towards women. Got it from.
- [31:12]
Adam Friedland
No, it's sweet.
- [31:13]
2 Chainz
Like being a spoiled brat titty baby. Like being. It's about breastfeeding from your mom. Yeah. And in this case, just being up under her so much, like not giving her a minute to do really anything. And that was kind of what I was known for early on. Yeah, me too. I was the momma's boy. Really?
- [31:30]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. I was breastfed until like 18, 19 years old. Yeah.
- [31:33]
2 Chainz
You look like you got any siblings, though, for real.
- [31:35]
Adam Friedland
I do. I have a younger sister.
- [31:37]
2 Chainz
I'm the oldest.
- [31:37]
Adam Friedland
We have the same birthday. Four years apart.
- [31:40]
2 Chainz
Swear.
- [31:40]
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
- [31:41]
2 Chainz
Yeah.
- [31:41]
Adam Friedland
What prompted you to, like, rebrand, reinvent yourself?
- [31:47]
2 Chainz
Me looking at business and me having mentors in the business space and noticing how big businesses rebrand every three to five years. So I treat the 2 Chainz brand as a business. So every two to three years, if it's not logo, it's something I'm doing to adjust the marketing. It's something I'm doing to just bring new light to me. And what I have going on. Yeah.
- [32:10]
Adam Friedland
Was also like titty boy. Like, you couldn't say it on, like, the news or something at the time. Now you can.
- [32:16]
2 Chainz
No. Yeah. At that time, you couldn't. But I would go to the radio and. And. Because when I got my record deal, I just was like, ah, I guess I'm titty tit. Whatever. You know, people would. You got to think. A lot of people automatically go into situations thinking negative, and you have to make them.
- [32:32]
Adam Friedland
Well, I thought it was. You were fat growing up.
- [32:34]
2 Chainz
Nah, never was fat.
- [32:36]
Adam Friedland
I thought it was like a fat kid with. With titties. And then I was like. It was about like that. You're close with your mother?
- [32:41]
2 Chainz
Yeah. Not Landon.
- [32:42]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. No, I wasn't saying it as a bit. I literally thought that because we had friends. I had friends like that growing up.
- [32:49]
2 Chainz
I've been. I've been slender a long time. It just was the point. I was an only child. See, that's why I asked you, did you have siblings? Because I. That's why I was the only child.
- [32:59]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. No, I mean, for sure. Like, when I found out you were a Division 1 athlete, I assumed you weren't titty boy. Or perhaps that's how you stopped being titty boy, by getting incredible at basketball.
- [33:09]
2 Chainz
Yeah, well, no, I get it.
- [33:13]
Adam Friedland
We're high, dude.
- [33:14]
2 Chainz
You're high.
- [33:15]
Adam Friedland
No, you're fucking. You're off your rucker right now.
- [33:18]
2 Chainz
No, man, I do this for. I literally, you know, I smoke just. I smoke casually throughout the day. Now you leaning back, you bouncing in a chair. You got one leg.
- [33:27]
Adam Friedland
I can't.
- [33:28]
2 Chainz
I'm not.
- [33:28]
Adam Friedland
I'm not comfortable being like this on the camera right now. And I'm getting a little soft.
- [33:32]
2 Chainz
Legs crossed, you tweaking, you scratching? I'm not tweaking.
- [33:35]
Adam Friedland
Oh, I'm fine.
- [33:35]
2 Chainz
Goddamn. Took something out.
- [33:37]
Adam Friedland
I'm fine.
- [33:37]
2 Chainz
You know, this doesn't amplify days in high school. Did you.
- [33:42]
Adam Friedland
You did.
- [33:43]
2 Chainz
Did you, though? No. Really? No. I assumed that Jewish people just had good grades in school.
- [33:48]
Adam Friedland
You. You're putting your foot in it right now, accidentally.
- [33:50]
2 Chainz
No, I just thought. I assumed. I assumed that the Jews. I just.
- [33:54]
Adam Friedland
No, my. I guess we did.
- [33:57]
2 Chainz
I assume. It's like, I'm.
- [33:58]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. There are a lot of harmful stereotypes like that, like getting great grades.
- [34:03]
2 Chainz
You dropped out of school?
- [34:05]
Adam Friedland
No, I went to college, but my whole thing was because my parents wanted A's. I would try to finesse it to, like, doing the least amount of work to get an A. I wasn't like. I didn't. I didn't think of school as, like, you learn there. I was like, it's like a game.
- [34:20]
2 Chainz
Yeah.
- [34:21]
Adam Friedland
We used to do cheat. We used to cheat. We used to, like. Yeah.
- [34:24]
2 Chainz
Really?
- [34:24]
Adam Friedland
Me and my friends would game the system. We were also smart. Yeah. We were just like. It's like a cost benefit analysis where, like, we could. And we'd still do well on the exams at the end of the year, but, like, it was, like, out of. It was like, trying to beat the system a little bit. That's how Jews. It's called white collar crime. It's like, that was my first experience. Yeah. At the end of the year, you do it. It's not important. Why are we talking about. At the end of the year, you do a test called the advanced placement system.
- [34:54]
2 Chainz
We're talking about the system, brother, and how people get around. We're talking about how people get around the system.
- [35:01]
Adam Friedland
If you didn't tap me there.
- [35:04]
2 Chainz
We're talking about the man and the system.
- [35:06]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah. No, exactly.
- [35:08]
2 Chainz
Yeah.
- [35:08]
Adam Friedland
No, it's like, we're like. I mean, when Jews came to America, they were just criminals. They were just. Yeah, they would.
- [35:14]
2 Chainz
Really?
- [35:15]
Adam Friedland
Yeah, of course. Yeah. They were, like, doing petty crimes really? Yeah, yeah. And organized crimes as well.
- [35:24]
2 Chainz
Really?
- [35:24]
Adam Friedland
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- [45:19]
2 Chainz
I've always been like this.
- [45:21]
Adam Friedland
So you knew your voice. Like, you've never, like, tried other, like other styles? I suppose so. Blessed, dude. It's crazy. So embarrassing. But answer as if I'm.
- [45:34]
2 Chainz
But you asked for it.
- [45:35]
Adam Friedland
They're not listening, dude. They're not listening you.
- [45:37]
2 Chainz
But you asked for this, though. I know because I thought that's experience, you know, you're a fan. You smoke with. You smoke with Tony.
- [45:43]
Adam Friedland
I used to be great at smoking weed, dude. Yeah, when I saw There Will Be Blood, I. I too.
- [45:50]
2 Chainz
What's your take on shrooms? You ever tried shroom?
- [45:52]
Adam Friedland
Yeah, Yeah, I have certainly yeah. What you think if you do, like, an eighth of shrooms and do a proper, like, trip? I always, like, sometimes will feel like everyone in my life hates me, and then when I leave a room, they all start making fun of me.
- [46:08]
2 Chainz
That's how you think.
- [46:08]
Adam Friedland
But if you do a little bit of shrooms, I found that it's kind of pleasant and nice and you're not. You're happy and you laugh a lot.
- [46:16]
2 Chainz
Yeah. 8th is crazy too, though.
- [46:18]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. In college, we used to. I did shrooms in college and Mission Impossible, the scene where he's, like, on the wire, and it was one of the most afraid I've ever been in my entire life.
- [46:29]
2 Chainz
You were afraid?
- [46:30]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. For Tom. For.
- [46:31]
2 Chainz
For Tom Cruise.
- [46:33]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. I didn't want him to get in trouble. I wanted him to cheat anyway. But, like, going back to you, like. Like, are you. To what extent are you, like, aware of the concept that, like, you've been on songs with, like, the biggest rappers of your time and. And you've kind of killed a lot of the time. Killed it harder than them. Does that register? Or are you like, I'm just. I'm on the team.
- [46:59]
2 Chainz
No, I know. I'm fire. I'm like that. You know, I get that.
- [47:03]
Adam Friedland
You know, when you've bodied everyone.
- [47:05]
2 Chainz
Mm.
- [47:06]
Adam Friedland
You wanna say the songs, though, right?
- [47:08]
2 Chainz
No, it's just. That's how I'm coming.
- [47:10]
Adam Friedland
Mercy.
- [47:11]
2 Chainz
A little bit. Mercy.
- [47:12]
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
- [47:13]
2 Chainz
Yeah. I had the best, you know?
- [47:15]
Adam Friedland
You did? You'll say it. Wow.
- [47:17]
2 Chainz
Did I say I had the best?
- [47:18]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Cause that's like a legendary.
- [47:21]
2 Chainz
Yeah, of course I had to.
- [47:22]
Adam Friedland
What was it? Yay. Was like, very good to you very early on. Is that correct? How did you guys be like? What was your.
- [47:29]
2 Chainz
I was making noise in the streets, putting out mixtapes. And what year was it? Man, this is a good one. I would say maybe either 2010 or 2011.
- [47:46]
Adam Friedland
So after graduation.
- [47:48]
2 Chainz
Yeah. Before my first.
- [47:49]
Adam Friedland
808.
- [47:49]
2 Chainz
Actually, this is before my first album. Okay. My first album came out in 2012, so we met way before, so probably 2011 or late 2010 or something.
- [47:57]
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
- [47:58]
2 Chainz
To where we built a rapport. And it was through the music that I was putting out in the streets, through my mixtapes. Started building a rapport, talking on the phone, bouncing creative ideas.
- [48:12]
Adam Friedland
What did he teach you? He's a genius a lot, bro.
- [48:14]
2 Chainz
Yeah. I don't think you can just name something he taught you just by being around him. He has a very high level of everything, from architect to engineering, not just music, you know, I mean, so it's just like also.
- [48:28]
Adam Friedland
Just as a producer.
- [48:29]
2 Chainz
Yeah, all of that. So just, you know, I'm definitely. And then I'm someone that tries to learn something and different. When I'm around the Wayne area or whoever I'm around that has more knowledge in that particular department or more experience. I come with my eyes and my ears open.
- [48:51]
Adam Friedland
That's what Kobe used to do, right? With like legends.
- [48:54]
2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah. That's what you. I think you should study him. I don't. I do less talking when I'm around certain individuals and more listening.
- [49:02]
Adam Friedland
Kanye is like my favorite. I like. I think it's not said enough, but he could very well be the best producer, you know, ever. People, like talk about him. His rap career is like, so, like, massive. But like the beats that he's made just like throughout his career, like, I think the best.
- [49:22]
2 Chainz
Yeah, I think he's really dope at curating.
- [49:24]
Adam Friedland
He convinced you to up your fee
- [49:27]
2 Chainz
for featuring for my feature? Yeah, man, maybe he did.
- [49:32]
Adam Friedland
What did he tell you to up it to?
- [49:35]
2 Chainz
I don't know. I was. This was when I was doing a lot of features at the time, and I would come in studio sessions with him and then like, go to another room and be like, I gotta knock out this feature. So it started being something that was not getting in my way, but it was something that I was doing. So common. And so I think his idea was just to put a high number on it so it would just limit what's
- [50:01]
Adam Friedland
the best features you've done in a week.
- [50:03]
2 Chainz
In a week? Yeah.
- [50:05]
Adam Friedland
In your life, man.
- [50:07]
2 Chainz
I don't know, man. I can. Oh, I don't know, probably 10 or 12 or something.
- [50:16]
Adam Friedland
Times that by a hundred thousand?
- [50:27]
2 Chainz
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
- [50:29]
Adam Friedland
$1.2 million.
- [50:31]
2 Chainz
Oh, yeah. He wanted me to judge her. Yeah. But yeah, the char. Well, I was charging him, but that was when. Because what happens is you work with artists that you're one fans of and that you plan on working with. So sometimes when you do that, you just do swap outs. You'll just swap it out. You'll be like, you know, whenever you need me. But then it became a point where you just charge because you're not gonna swap. And even now I have. I don't know how many swaps. I don't know, maybe two years ago I did like the update to see how many people actually owe me verses. And some of that, some of the people on those lists, I don't even want nothing. I don't even want a verse from them. Jason Dason Dulo. Jason Dulo.
- [51:12]
Adam Friedland
He owes you a verse.
- [51:13]
2 Chainz
Did I charge?
- [51:14]
Adam Friedland
I don't know if you charged it,
- [51:15]
2 Chainz
but you were on that song. But you know what that song is? Almost Diamond. That'd be my. So I had to figure out, like, that it worked.
- [51:21]
Adam Friedland
Does it sound like Jewish to you? A little bit.
- [51:24]
2 Chainz
Does what sound Jewish?
- [51:25]
Adam Friedland
That song. It does, kind of. That was my reference point, at least. I was like, what is this song?
- [51:35]
2 Chainz
I don't know. I don't. I didn't, you know, musically what it. What is the Jewish background of music?
- [51:40]
Adam Friedland
Klesberg.
- [51:42]
2 Chainz
Lesburg.
- [51:43]
Adam Friedland
Klesberg.
- [51:43]
2 Chainz
Klesberg.
- [51:45]
Adam Friedland
Yeah, kind of.
- [51:46]
2 Chainz
One more time. Klezmer klezmer.
- [51:49]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. You want to hear it? It sounds like Jason Derulo. Talk Dirty three.
- [51:54]
2 Chainz
Play it.
- [51:54]
Adam Friedland
All right, I'll put it on. You want to hear this? But not my weed dealers. Reggae song about family.
- [51:59]
2 Chainz
So what you about to play as a Jewish artist?
- [52:02]
Adam Friedland
No, this is a style. It's like. I don't know. I think it's kind of not bad. It's kind of like Radiohead a little bit. I can't believe I just said that. That's so embarrassing. Hunter, did you hear me say that? It's kind of like Radiohead. I'm so lit. Okay, I'll put, like. I guess. I don't know.
- [52:25]
2 Chainz
That's the style of music. Yeah. That's what you and your boys was pipping to. No, no, no.
- [52:31]
Adam Friedland
We were listening to Paul's Dropout Black album. Reason Doubt, Blueprint.
- [52:37]
2 Chainz
Yeah. Oh, y'.
- [52:38]
Adam Friedland
All.
- [52:38]
2 Chainz
Y' all listen to our music?
- [52:40]
Adam Friedland
Yes, of course. We're Jewish. Jewish boys.
- [52:43]
2 Chainz
Yeah.
- [52:43]
Adam Friedland
It's like this. Like, Jason Derulo.
- [52:47]
2 Chainz
No, that's not.
- [52:48]
Adam Friedland
It does sound like that.
- [52:54]
2 Chainz
What instrument is that?
- [52:56]
Adam Friedland
I think clarinet. You know Woody Allen plays clarinet. Anyway, it's kind of fire, though. You could get the reference to the Jason Derulo track. You do get it, though, right?
- [53:11]
2 Chainz
Yeah.
- [53:12]
Adam Friedland
Am I bodying this, or am I bombing this right now? Wait. So what I would suppose is. Do you ever have a feeling if you crush it on, like, another person's track? Like, you're like. It's like, I'm giving them, like, a great song.
- [53:34]
2 Chainz
Yeah, I have thought about that before. Like, I should say this verse. For me, this is a great song. I mean, this is a great verse or something like that. I have said some dope stuff on other people's song, but ultimately I'll think of something else. Dope?
- [53:44]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Or if you're, like, on a song, I imagine with, like, other killers, you just Want to kill the hardest?
- [53:50]
2 Chainz
Absolutely.
- [53:51]
Adam Friedland
Right?
- [53:51]
2 Chainz
It's like.
- [53:52]
Adam Friedland
It's like Glenn Gary, Glen Ross, the. This movie where it's like all the best actors.
- [53:57]
2 Chainz
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [53:58]
Adam Friedland
I don't know why I said that. We should watch it together, though. I'm not watching the move with you, Jack Lemmon. Good work, Adam. Keep up the good work. Alcido, Alec Baldwin.
- [54:11]
2 Chainz
The movie sounds good, but, like, me and you watching the movie, it's crazy.
- [54:14]
Adam Friedland
It's like Mercy. It's like you're on that track with the other best.
- [54:18]
2 Chainz
I understand everything you said. I think even listening to Mercy together for me and you is crazy. Like, we shouldn't be doing none of that. We shouldn't be watching a movie. Shouldn't be. We shouldn't be. We shouldn't be.
- [54:29]
Adam Friedland
We'll see how you feel in 13 minutes.
- [54:33]
2 Chainz
How do you feel?
- [54:34]
Adam Friedland
I feel great, honestly. This is one of the funniest things ever.
- [54:37]
2 Chainz
What would you do after this?
- [54:38]
Adam Friedland
I'm prepared. Right now. I have to go back to work. I have to edit the Gavin Newsom episode.
- [54:44]
2 Chainz
Oh, you had Gavin promoting his book. He came on here.
- [54:47]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. You're the second book promoter.
- [54:49]
2 Chainz
Did you. Yeah, I feel like.
- [54:52]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. Yeah.
- [54:52]
2 Chainz
I feel like.
- [54:53]
Adam Friedland
I don't know why I'm in this position.
- [54:55]
2 Chainz
Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
- [54:57]
Adam Friedland
Okay. We're totally gonna watch a movie. I feel like it's turning.
- [55:01]
2 Chainz
No, you crazy.
- [55:02]
Adam Friedland
I think we are.
- [55:02]
2 Chainz
You had Gavin Newsom on here, right?
- [55:04]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. He's gonna be the president. Maybe. Look at him. I mean.
- [55:09]
2 Chainz
All right, so listen, you was acting like that when he was up here by his book.
- [55:16]
Adam Friedland
I didn't piff, dude. I was all right before the piff.
- [55:20]
2 Chainz
You have to admit it. You was helping him set. You gotta sell. Look, bro, you use your network. That's why I'm on here. Use your network.
- [55:28]
Adam Friedland
No. This is an independently produced, kind of punk rock style place you're at right now. We're outside the system, kind of selling it out the trunk, if you will. I got him. I got him. Finally. Do you have any advice for me, young man?
- [55:48]
2 Chainz
Woo. Get. Get security.
- [55:50]
Adam Friedland
Chill out.
- [55:50]
2 Chainz
He needs a kid.
- [55:51]
Adam Friedland
Oh, my God. Having a kid told me to chill out from smoking weed.
- [55:55]
2 Chainz
Yeah, you don't need.
- [55:57]
Adam Friedland
I gotta straighten up.
- [55:58]
2 Chainz
It's not for everybody.
- [55:59]
Adam Friedland
I know, dude.
- [56:00]
2 Chainz
See, that's what I'm saying. It's not for everybody. My kids probably need to see that. Cause they know nothing, man. I definitely ain't gonna mess with nothing like that man that started, I'm doing
- [56:08]
Adam Friedland
this for him right now.
- [56:09]
2 Chainz
No, he ain't doing it.
- [56:10]
Adam Friedland
I'm doing it for the future.
- [56:11]
2 Chainz
You ain't doing nothing.
- [56:12]
Adam Friedland
He's the future of this country.
- [56:14]
2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [56:16]
Adam Friedland
He matters more than us.
- [56:17]
2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [56:18]
Adam Friedland
What was it like having your kids are like, rich?
- [56:22]
2 Chainz
My kids are rich.
- [56:23]
Adam Friedland
Yeah, yeah. Like by proxy of like, you know,
- [56:25]
2 Chainz
I teach my kids to really be rich from the inside out. So they got a good foundation inside and they not really like. I mean, they're sports.
- [56:34]
Adam Friedland
You worry about them being spoiled?
- [56:36]
2 Chainz
You just be cutting people off.
- [56:37]
Adam Friedland
No, I was gonna ask that. Do you worry about them being spoiled?
- [56:41]
2 Chainz
I mean, yes and no. But at the same time, you don't want them to experience what you experience. So they gonna have a higher level and more experiences than you did coming up. So I think my wife and I did a good job of putting them in a certain light. Right. But, you know, as they get older, we'll take our hands off the steering wheel and kind of. Or take the training wheels off and let them learn on their own as well.
- [57:01]
Adam Friedland
That's lovely. I can tell you.
- [57:04]
2 Chainz
Talk about my book because I know the I'm gonna look at the Gaps Gabbin Newsome episode. I'm gonna see how you tried a completely different thing. Talk about book.
- [57:11]
Adam Friedland
I'm a fan of yours.
- [57:12]
2 Chainz
Talk about book.
- [57:13]
Adam Friedland
I got it. Okay. So wait, you mentioned your grandmother, like, shot at the police and then you never followed that up? Can you tell us more?
- [57:23]
2 Chainz
Cuz I wasn't there, bro. I heard this story from.
- [57:25]
Adam Friedland
Wait, so what's the story, though? I just wanted to know more.
- [57:28]
2 Chainz
My grandma sold bootleg liquor and.
- [57:30]
Adam Friedland
Wow.
- [57:31]
2 Chainz
And this is before I guess, you could get liquor. And I guess the police was coming to ask or something. From my assumption, she shot at them. Shot at them. Pulling up. So the voice. I'll do it.
- [57:48]
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
- [57:48]
2 Chainz
Sit back, bro. I have a book that's very important to me. It's very, very, very important to me. I'm the author of this book. It's called the Voice in my Head is God. It took me over two years to write this book. It's very introspective and it's very detailed as far as my life experiences and my journey. It has the title God in it. But it's not necessarily like a religious book. I don't have, like, scriptures in it. I do have stories of the times that I either left a relationship meaning business or whatever, or stayed in one too. Long. I just let people in on the way that I think, the way that I move. And I think that this piece of literature can help my community navigate through their daily experiences by listening to the divine guidance that they have inside of them. And they can help you from everything, through business decisions, heartbreak, what shoes you should wear, everything from top to bottom. So, yeah, that's how you do that, bro.
- [58:51]
Adam Friedland
Okay.
- [58:52]
2 Chainz
That's how you do that.
- [58:53]
Adam Friedland
Can we be like, so tell me about the book.
- [58:56]
2 Chainz
That's Cap. No, I just showed.
- [58:58]
Adam Friedland
Just. Just. Let's get it clean. So tell me about the book. Wait, I want to. Were there stories that didn't relate or that didn't make the book?
- [59:12]
2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah, of course. Yes. I think I have a lot of stories that just didn't make the book. Ultimately, the book. Ultimately, the book is me telling stories through the lens of this voice in my head and how. Something told me. If you've ever said something told me to do something. To say something. Something told you to. Something what told you. What told you to do this?
- [59:41]
Adam Friedland
I thought it'd be cool.
- [59:42]
2 Chainz
I thought you.
- [59:43]
Adam Friedland
I thought it was slam dunk.
- [59:46]
2 Chainz
Yeah. So something told you to do that. All right, so sometimes the Voice. Sometimes.
- [59:51]
Adam Friedland
Sometimes we're gonna watch a movie afterwards.
- [59:53]
2 Chainz
Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes you. Sometimes the Voice could clearly be off, depending on who you are. So you have to, like, you know.
- [60:00]
Adam Friedland
Oh, yeah, yeah. When I blaze, I. I think about everything I say throughout the day, and I'm like, you suck. Yeah.
- [60:06]
2 Chainz
Yeah.
- [60:07]
Adam Friedland
I go through my entire day.
- [60:09]
2 Chainz
But I think you say stuff and you don't fear the consequences because of.
- [60:13]
Adam Friedland
Delusional.
- [60:13]
2 Chainz
Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, your family got money, right?
- [60:16]
Adam Friedland
No, they really don't have money. I bought my dad's house. Yeah.
- [60:20]
2 Chainz
So the Jewish kids can't, like, support their parents?
- [60:23]
Adam Friedland
No, it's. Well, yeah, no, it's.
- [60:26]
2 Chainz
I'm just. I'm a learner at this point.
- [60:28]
Adam Friedland
They're not plugged. They're not plugged. Yeah.
- [60:30]
2 Chainz
Why not? But don't you, like, have, like, friends of the family that, like, help?
- [60:35]
Adam Friedland
No, no, no. Because we're not from America. Yeah.
- [60:38]
2 Chainz
Okay.
- [60:39]
Adam Friedland
We're not, like, connected. Yeah. Yeah. But now that I have agents and obviously they're Jewish. Yeah. Or managers. Yeah, yeah. But I've, like, earned it through whatever this is. Through being great at asking a question.
- [60:54]
2 Chainz
Yeah, you're absolutely the top.
- [60:57]
Adam Friedland
Wait, wait. Can I ask a good question then?
- [61:01]
2 Chainz
Let's try that. Let's try a good one. Let's see if you got.
- [61:04]
Adam Friedland
Bro.
- [61:04]
2 Chainz
Let's see what you got?
- [61:05]
Adam Friedland
What is this? This is one of those shows, dude, this is like getting along and be best friends that watch a movie afterwards show.
- [61:12]
2 Chainz
He just laughing at this.
- [61:15]
Adam Friedland
Thank you. Your wife is.
- [61:18]
2 Chainz
She's. That's how we watch comedy. So we laugh at two different things.
- [61:21]
Adam Friedland
What's your favorite comedy? That's not. That's not my question.
- [61:24]
2 Chainz
I don't know, man.
- [61:26]
Adam Friedland
How do you mark like, evolving and growing as an artist? Like, you obviously want to top yourself each time, right? So, like, what are your markers of, like, a progression? Like, is there a moment where you're satisfied or is there a moment where it's like, I'll never be satisfied?
- [61:44]
2 Chainz
Yeah. I think it's hard to put a glass ceiling on passion. Yeah.
- [61:49]
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
- [61:49]
2 Chainz
I think when you just love something, it's hard to really, you know, find that end all, you know, for me at least, you know. Yeah. So you always, you know, you wake up every day thinking, you know, you could take it up a notch. You can go up a level. You're delusional when you're a creative, you just, you know, you wake up and then you hope that that day brings you an idea that you, you know, that you can reap the benefits off of. So. Yeah.
- [62:27]
Adam Friedland
When did you consider you fully, like, accepted? Tapped in that God was that God?
- [62:35]
2 Chainz
I feel like I've been tapped in for, you know, it's not been a very long time, but I can. I think it took life experiences and the outcome for me to come to a conclusion that this voice in my head has helped me navigate through some of the toughest times and turmoil in my life.
- [62:54]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. And it got stronger.
- [62:57]
2 Chainz
Absolutely right. You learned how clear. It got clearer.
- [63:00]
Adam Friedland
Clear. Yeah. You think that's what, like, maturing, like, that's the point of it. I think so, too.
- [63:08]
2 Chainz
I couldn't have wrote a book like that at 20 some years old, go through some stuff.
- [63:13]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. You seem remarkably, like, grounded for, like, someone as famous as yourself.
- [63:19]
2 Chainz
Yeah.
- [63:20]
Adam Friedland
Like, is this the method and means of you maintaining, like, a level and even keel?
- [63:27]
2 Chainz
I think it could have some secret sauce in that book. I think it could. I think I could be. And who knows, you know, this is my opinion. This is my personal belief.
- [63:37]
Adam Friedland
Yeah.
- [63:37]
2 Chainz
So I think what works for people is whatever they believe in. This is what I truly believe in. This is how I truly be operating. So ultimately, you know, it changes the way one person navigates throughout their day and they pay more attention to that. Something told me, boys.
- [63:57]
Adam Friedland
Have you said it to any, like, any people, you know, Like, I think you might have. You sent it to any baby bros, maybe tell them, keep their heads straight.
- [64:09]
2 Chainz
Oh, man. I think I definitely sent out some advanced copies. I've also had this conversation with people before writing the book.
- [64:21]
Adam Friedland
So that's what gave you the idea?
- [64:23]
2 Chainz
Well, yeah.
- [64:24]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. All right, last question. Is there a sneak diss, perhaps?
- [64:27]
2 Chainz
A sneak diss?
- [64:28]
Adam Friedland
Yeah. In that book?
- [64:30]
2 Chainz
No.
- [64:30]
Adam Friedland
There's one line where the. The one guy on earth reads it and he knows. He's like, oh, no, you're rent free.
- [64:37]
2 Chainz
This book. This book about positive eyes, man. Uplifting.
- [64:41]
Adam Friedland
Well, I. I think it's. It genuinely is a great thing you've shared with people, and I think it's like the. I know you're saying it's just your opinion, but I think it's pretty universal to learn how to, like, accept your. Your intuition and accept that you're like, life is kind of lucky at certain points, and so you have to, like, trust your gut.
- [65:03]
2 Chainz
Trust your gut, yeah.
- [65:05]
Adam Friedland
What is the biggest inflection point like that in your entire life where you. It could have gone one of two directions dramatically different?
- [65:17]
2 Chainz
I've had a couple of those cross roads, bro. I've had a couple of them that, you know, at that particular time, it probably led me somewhere that I felt was dark, ultimately leading me to the light. And then I've made decisions based off just good night's rest, and this is what I'm going to do. So I've had a few pivots throughout my life that have came, you know, through that process.
- [65:45]
Adam Friedland
I got it together.
- [65:47]
2 Chainz
You're not together, but it's okay.
- [65:48]
Adam Friedland
I got it together. At the end there. You gotta give. You gotta give me.
- [65:52]
2 Chainz
All right. Okay, cool.
- [65:54]
Adam Friedland
Am I saying it's. No, no, you gotta cosign. You have to tell the people that you're like, I'm impressed by the. By the tenacity and the.
- [66:03]
2 Chainz
All right, all right. How many hands I got?
- [66:05]
Adam Friedland
You have two hands.
- [66:09]
2 Chainz
Okay.
- [66:10]
Adam Friedland
You don't have visuals from weed.
- [66:12]
2 Chainz
I'm just trying to make.
- [66:13]
Adam Friedland
It is exotic. I will. I will attest to that.
- [66:17]
2 Chainz
This is okay, but you look like a man when I leave. You're gonna be punching it. You're gonna be punching yourself, man. You'll be like, damn, I got high as hell. I'm already knowing how you feel.
- [66:28]
Adam Friedland
Me personally.
- [66:28]
2 Chainz
Who's that? Hunter. Let me tell you how you and Hunter back there.
- [66:33]
Adam Friedland
Let me tell you how, like. Like, delusional I am. I'm not even gonna do that. I'd be like, that was awesome.
- [66:40]
2 Chainz
Awesome. Yeah. You're delusional.
- [66:42]
Adam Friedland
Seriously. I know. Out of my mind.
- [66:44]
2 Chainz
All right. My guy.
- [66:47]
Adam Friedland
I thought, honestly, bro.
- [66:49]
2 Chainz
Clap for him, man.
- [66:50]
Adam Friedland
Honestly, bro, that is. That is going to cut together. So fun. What an unmitigated disaster. One of my personal heroes, two chains, hated my guts. And to make matters worse, I was high on illegal marijuana. I had to get out of there. I ducked out of the studio. My head was full of dangerous, negative self talk, horrible, unspeakable things that I was telling myself, like you stink. Things like that. Then it all went black. Where was I? What had happened? You know, before technology like the cell phone or the mailman were invented, carrier pigeons used to be used by humanity to communicate for thousands of years. These pigeons don't know that they're carrying a correspondence for a general or a star crossed lover. All they know is that they need to go home. They're unaware of the magnets in their heads guiding their path or the sun serving like a compass. The pigeons only know one thing. No matter how far they started, they could always find their way home. I'm Adam Friedland and I'll be back next week. I promise. Stronger than ever.
- [68:27]
2 Chainz
Don't change, Don't change, Don't change, Don't change.
- [69:17]
Adam Friedland
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- [69:30]
2 Chainz
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- [69:31]
Adam Friedland
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