CLAVICULAR Talks Female Psychology, Drug Habit, Infamy

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Adam Friedland Show

Episode: CLAVICULAR Talks Female Psychology, Drug Habit, Infamy

Date: February 17, 2026
Host: Adam Friedland
Guest: Clavicular

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Episode Overview

This episode features an in-depth and often irreverent conversation between host Adam Friedland and controversial streamer and "looksmaxer" Clavicular. The discussion cuts through internet fame, the culture of looksmaxing (an obsessive self-enhancement movement), youth disaffection, social media ascendancy, and the evolving ideas around attraction, masculinity, and self-improvement. The tone is unfiltered and often sardonic, blending personal anecdotes, theoretical talk, rapid pop culture references, and explicit exploration of status anxieties in young men.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Looksmaxing: Origins, Philosophy, and Practice

• Definition and Mainstreaming
  • "Looksmaxing" refers to maximizing one’s physical attractiveness—to “MOG” others, i.e., to outshine or dominate them in looks (06:14).
  • The term burst from online forums into TikTok and then into more mainstream spaces by 2023.
    • Clavicular: “You’re not in your own world with not knowing about this whole looks max thing. It’s kind of a new thing that’s popped up over the past few months...” (04:33)
• Hierarchies and "Mogging"
  • Mogging: Outperforming others in attractiveness or status—originally “alpha male of group” (06:22).
  • Classifications: “Normie”, “Chad”, “GigaChad”, “Stacy”, “Becky”, etc.

2. Society’s Bias Toward Attractiveness

• Basic Thesis
  • Society rewards the attractive, a principle Clavicular frames as essentially self-evident—citing research and legal disparities in sentencing (08:08).
  • Clavicular: “It’s quite clear that it’s a huge advantage to have in life.” (08:08)
• Economic and Dating Realities
  • Looksmaxing is presented as a more achievable route to improving “sexual market value” (SMV) than financial or status ascension, especially for young men facing bleak economic prospects (11:04).

3. Methodologies and Interventions

• Pharmacology & Surgery
  • Daily “stack” includes: exogenous testosterone, GLP-1 agonists (like Ozempic), hair loss medications (e.g., dutasteride) (46:15-47:35).
  • Surgery as an investment: Advocates for using college loans for cosmetic surgery instead of education (49:46).
    • Clavicular: “If you’re gonna take out hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of loans, you might as well invest it into surgery rather than going to school.” (00:01, 49:46)
• Looksmaxing vs. Statusmaxing
  • Philosophy: Anyone can improve, but genetics set your ceiling; not everyone can become a Chad (30:34).
  • Surgery examples: Discusses procedures like “double jaw” advancement, sometimes limb-lengthening, but emphasizes ROI over extremity (32:11, 32:51).

4. Cultural Shifts, Male Anxiety & Online Communities

• Forum Evolution
  • Looksmaxing is rooted in PUA (pickup artist) and incel communities but became more about “solving” unattractiveness (20:51-21:12).
  • Female perception: Clavicular argues women have always "lookmaxed" but not as “scientifically” as men now do (29:52).
• Hypergamy and Modern Dating
  • Asserts modern women are “hypergamous”—trying to date above their level, with exceptions based on money or status (23:30).
    • Clavicular: “Women are just outrageously hypergamous.” (23:25)

5. Fame, Streaming, and Infamy

• Clavicular’s Meteoric Rise
  • Began streaming (late 2025), now widely known—credits "consistency" and freshness of content in a stale Twitch ecosystem (35:08-36:03).
  • Mixed fanbase: Claims surprisingly even male/female split, with men dominating stream viewership and women more involved via TikTok (36:53-37:11).
• Downside of Infamy
  • Viral hate clips, paparazzi moments, and public confrontations are discussed, but Clavicular insists the majority of interaction is positive and in-person fan encounters are often supportive (37:56-38:56, 63:40).
• Streaming Lifestyle and Obsessions
  • Clavicular rarely does anything off-camera; all life and fun is content (“if I’m doing anything off camera…I could be streaming this, getting paid”) (52:09-52:44).
  • Adam: “Come on, dude, you can’t just make—you separate a little bit.” (52:44)

6. Controversy and Public Perception

• Edge, Politics, and Stereotyping
  • Looksmaxing often misconstrued as right-wing or “incel,” but Clavicular claims it’s apolitical self-improvement (57:40).
    • Adam: “Because you got your forums, you say naughty words. So they think it’s right wing.” (57:54)
  • The “Manosphere” is more hostile to perceived weakness or deviation; Clavicular addresses critiques but frames himself as misunderstood (64:29).

7. Personal Life & Psychology

• Family Background
  • Raised in Hoboken; close to family, especially his sister (13:46); parents were bodybuilders (14:41).
• Socialization & COVID Impact
  • Describes himself as a loner, “rotted” on video games during lockdown; hyperfixations led to obsessive communities like looksmaxing (17:28-19:21).
• Love and Relationships
  • Difficulties with stable relationships due to lifestyle; admits being in love is elusive (21:24-22:06).
• Obsession Cycle and Social Stigma
  • Looksmaxing is seen (even by Adam) as an uncool obsession, yet Clavicular’s implication is that obsession may be a new “cool” for the alienated and ambitious (67:54-68:05).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Surgery as College Investment:
  • Clavicular (00:01, repeated 49:46):
    “If you’re going to take out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of loans, you might as well invest it into surgery rather than going to school.”
• On Social Bias:
  • Clavicular (08:08):
    “It just seems...beyond obvious that the better looking you are, the better treatment you get in almost every aspect of life.”
• On Streaming Lifestyle:
  • Clavicular (52:44):
    “When I’m doing anything off camera that’s like an activity, I’m like, ‘I could be streaming this, getting paid right now.’”
• On Modern Dating:
  • Clavicular (23:30):
    “Women are just outrageously hypergamous. It means that they’re trying to date above their looks level to a ridiculous degree.”
• On the Limits of Looksmaxing:
  • Clavicular (30:34):
    “Genetics are going to play a huge role...you might look smacks your entire life, do everything properly, but...if you just do not have the genetic base…you might be a little disappointed.”
• On Fame vs. Infamy:
  • Adam Friedland (35:22):
    “Famous. Famous. Say it, dude. Say it with your chest.”
  • Clavicular (35:25):
    “No, no. Yeah, not yet. Hopefully one day.”

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Highlight | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------| | 00:01 | Surgery vs. college loans rant | | 04:16 | Looksmaxing defined; Adam plays “boomer” | | 06:22 | “Mogging” explained | | 08:08 | Society and legal system's bias toward attractive people | | 11:04 | Looks vs. Status vs. Money in dating | | 16:14 | Discussion of steroids and health | | 17:28 | Early online obsessions and COVID impact | | 21:24 | On being in love and impact on relationships | | 23:30 | Women's “hypergamy” claim | | 30:34 | Genetic limits of looksmaxing | | 32:11 | Double jaw surgery explained | | 35:08 | Clavicular on his ascent and streaming audience | | 46:15 | Daily pharmacology stack | | 49:46 | College loans as surgery funding (repeated) | | 52:44 | Refusal to have fun off-stream | | 57:40 | Disputing political/anti-woman/alt-right labels | | 62:04 | Attractiveness ranked above kindness, etc. | | 64:29 | Self as "spokesperson" for young men; manosphere | | 67:54 | Obsession and “coolness” discussed |

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Memorable Moments

• Adam razzes Clavicular about living like a monk with nearly every waking activity streamed for content (52:09-53:07).
• A humorous exchange about “rating” girlfriends’ attractiveness and the subjectivity versus the supposed objectivity of “face math” (25:06-25:36).
• Deadpan lines about cosmetic surgery, like Clavicular's advice that using student loans for plastic surgery provides a better ROI than college (49:46).

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Tone, Style, and Takeaways

• The episode mixes banter, dark humor, and self-aware irony, typical for Adam Friedland’s program.
• Clavicular leans into the nihilism and scientific pretensions of the looksmaxing world, but is also self-deprecating and at times guarded.
• The discussion exposes the ways modern young men process societal pressure, economic anxiety, and the allure (and toxicity) of self-optimization communities.
• The fringe internet—forums, meme language, obsession with beauty—has fully infiltrated mainstream youth culture, but comes with a cost: anxiety, alienation, and perpetual self-surveillance.

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Conclusion

This episode gives a raw, often comic, and revealing look inside the headspace of digital-native masculinity and the new beauty cults it births. It’s as much a satire of self-improvement and influencer culture as it is an earnest clinical breakdown of a new type of obsession. Adam successfully draws out both the absurdity and the genuine pathos behind looksmaxing, offering a window into why these movements resonate and where they might go.

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For listeners interested in youth internet subcultures, modern self-improvement, and the new masculinity, this episode is both illuminating and deeply strange—a perfect artifact of its era.

Transcript

[Clavicular]

If you're going to take out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of loans, you might as well invest it into surgery rather than going to school.

[Adam Friedland]

What if you could be a plastic surgeon?

[Clavicular]

And by the way, you can actually get college loans and use it for surgery. So this is a method. So I've been. I've been telling people, yeah, you can literally do that. So just misappropriating the funds, it's really not going to get you in that much trouble. And you'll mog so you'll be able to sort of get out of sa.

[Adam Friedland]

Welcome to a very special episode of the Adam Friedland Show. It's Adam Friedland. We're gonna get right into it. My guest this week is controversial kick streamer and looks maxer. Clavicular. That guy. Clavicular has enjoyed quite the meteoric rise over the last six months, thanks in part to a series of livestream controversies that have put him on the social radar of anyone and everyone that has a social media feed. I wonder if our parents. You think our parents do. My mom knows. Your mom knows because your mom's horny. Okay. Now, I'm no fan of the things this young man has said about various groups like women, the LGBT community, and especially Jews. What has he. I didn't know that. You didn't know that? Yeah. What does he say about it? It's not. Again, we'll talk about it later. But the bad ones, right? The bad Jews. But I think it's important to view clavicular as a symptom, a symptom of something much deeper, something much darker, perhaps a cultural virus that has plagued the country, the world, perhaps for the last decade. And I'm talking about, of course, I don't have to say it, but none other than video game player and pickup artist extraordinaire Hassan Piker. Our younger generation has grown up idealizing this man who uses a preternatural fashion sense as a tool for sexual persuasion. How many times have you seen young men at the store or perhaps the mall wearing this exact outfit, attempting to mold themselves into a man who's quite frankly, an anti Semite. Anti Semite of the year, mind you. A man who views women as workers, A man who livestreams everything he does, makes it about politics. A man who's not even as big as his dog. Folks, I'm hoping this interview will be a wake up call for everyone who's watching it to stop supporting the monster Hassan P. Care. So please enjoy my interview with Clef. Hell, Jesus Christ. But he use a phone? Why is he using that? Anyway, so please enjoy my interview with Clavicular, everyone. It's gonna be a good one. I think it'll be a good one. Ladies and gentlemen, the number one streamer on Kickstarter. Give it up for Clavicular, everyone. Thanks for having me. Dude, how you doing? You're in New York City doing great, man. You're enjoying it?

[Clavicular]

It's a little cold for me, but.

[Adam Friedland]

Honestly, like, I'm 38 years old and I'm like, learning about looks, maxing and stuff. Like. Like, I do a lot of research for the show and I feel like. I just feel so. Like a boomer. I feel like, so foreign from the youth of today. I feel like it's. I'm learning like a new fucking language or something like that.

[Clavicular]

Right? Yeah. All of the terms are quite comical. But, you know, you're not in your own world with not knowing about this whole looks max thing. It's kind of a new thing that's popped up over the past few months, I would say, to the mainstream. Right. It's been.

[Adam Friedland]

It existed in forums for years. Right?

[Clavicular]

Right. Yeah, no, it's been around for years and it had sort of a explosion on TikTok back in 2023 where, like, the kids knew about it, but now it's kind of pushing to X and like, you know, people in your demographic a little bit, so.

[Adam Friedland]

Shut up. What does that mean? Demographic? What is my demographic?

[Clavicular]

Old cells.

[Adam Friedland]

Old cells, yeah. What does that mean? Celibacy? Just, like, I get pussy. Shut the up. I get mad.

[Clavicular]

No, it's not like when I was poor. That's just one of the terms that we use.

[Adam Friedland]

My sexual market value is just through the roof.

[Clavicular]

We'll just add sell to the end of a descriptor. Really old cell.

[Adam Friedland]

So what is your role in this ecosystem? How would you define your. The place that you exist within that?

[Clavicular]

I would say I'm kind of the cultural leader in the lux maxing world, you know, because not a lot of people are super well versed, you know, they're not willing to go the distance, do whatever it takes kind of to ascend through any and every mechanism out there available to them. So I was like, okay, let's, you know, take this to its logical conclusion, you know, with biohacking with, you know, whatever form of ascension necessary.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Are there other, like, are there ops that are trying to come for that number one spot? Do you have to defend the throne?

[Clavicular]

Not that I know about.

[Adam Friedland]

Are you the hottest guy? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no, no.

[Clavicular]

Well, that's just.

[Adam Friedland]

You just know the most about looks back.

[Clavicular]

See, Right, well, that's the goal of the game, right, Is to MOG other people.

[Adam Friedland]

Right. Tell the boomer cells about what that is.

[Clavicular]

So mogging is essentially just outperforming them, looking better than them, and just sort of dominating. Right. It came from something called amog, which was alpha male of the group. Then it was shortened to just mog. So that's kind of like the term we use when someone is just like outshining another person in a photo or whatever. So if that comes along and happens to me. Right. That's just kind of like almost biblical, you know?

[Adam Friedland]

Have you been mogged by another? By another man?

[Clavicular]

I've definitely been mogged, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

How does it feel to get mogged?

[Clavicular]

It's not a great feeling.

[Adam Friedland]

It feels bad. It's just that a guy is more.

[Clavicular]

Beautiful than you or just it could be through a whole plethora of different things. Maybe they have more money than you. They could money MOG you. They could status MOG you.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay. Do you only chill with handsome guys?

[Clavicular]

No, no, I chill with.

[Adam Friedland]

You have normie friends?

[Clavicular]

I do have normie friends.

[Adam Friedland]

And what's your perception of those guys? That they're like, you feel bad for them?

[Clavicular]

I try not to think about it too much. It's kind of just like the only thing that I'm kind of talking about when I discuss looks, maxing and the importance of looks is you could try your hardest not to acknowledge someone being ugly or good looking, but at the end of the day, it's a subconscious bias that everyone's gonna have and it's unavoidable. Right. So just because I know the exact facial ratios that make someone good looking or not good looking, it doesn't mean that everyone doesn't instinctually know them already.

[Adam Friedland]

It makes sense to me. The basic premise that society rewards attractiveness, Right? Yes. Yeah. Correct. It's kind of obvious, right? Yeah. Do you think it's like a revolutionary concept because it's like you're just saying something that's always existed, Right? Right.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. No, I think it's quite logical. And that's why I would say that most of my messaging is so well received, because it seems to me so beyond obvious that you're better looking, you have better treatment in almost every aspect of life. And this is something that's also quite well researched. Right. You know, you look at prison sentencing for good looking people versus people who are Less attractive. It's quite clear that it's a huge advantage to have in life.

[Adam Friedland]

You think you beat the case recently cause you're a hottie?

[Clavicular]

No comment.

[Adam Friedland]

No comment. But did you like, you pumped before you walked into the courthouse?

[Clavicular]

No, I didn't pump.

[Adam Friedland]

Did you wear something slutty so the judge could see?

[Clavicular]

No, I was fixing my hair in that one mirror. The curved one? Yeah. In the courthouse.

[Adam Friedland]

I would throw your ass away for life. Personally. Yeah. To ugly jail. I'd send you to ugly jail. Brutal. I'm just playing. I'm just playing, dog. Wait, so you came with your boys? That's your camera guy?

[Clavicular]

Temporary.

[Adam Friedland]

Why? You're about to fire him?

[Clavicular]

No, no, no, my other.

[Adam Friedland]

What's your name? Come up and say. Say what up to the crowd or to the audience? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Say we come up and say hi. Yeah. Say name, age, body count.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Haha. Yeah, yeah. You don't have a body count? I'm yours.

[Clavicular]

Social Security number one.

[Adam Friedland]

And body count like lower double digits? Lower double digits? Like 10? I don't really count. Lower double digits. A bizarre way to say that. Well, double digits implies like 50s. That's too high.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay, so what's your body count? I don't count. Do you guys ever run two mans together or. No, not yet. Not yet. Not yet. One day it's like threesome. Yeah, one day like a devil's three way with you and your. You're in the white shot right now. Okay, sorry, I'm just like, let's get back into you. I want it like because it's been like really fucking fast your ascent, right?

[Clavicular]

That's right.

[Adam Friedland]

Mr. B says you're about to be the number one guy I saw clip.

[Clavicular]

Yes, he said that if he were to invest in any content creator who's up and coming, it would be myself. I'm not really too sure what that.

[Adam Friedland]

Means, but it sounds like a little bit sinister. Yeah, maybe a little bit. But dude, that guy kind of tortures poor people, don't you think?

[Clavicular]

I don't know too much about that. That's been speculated. No, I think people just kind of call into questions stuff about some of the budgeting maybe not being the greatest.

[Adam Friedland]

What does that mean though?

[Clavicular]

So they're doing like the team water thing, right? In Africa where it's like a charity project.

[Adam Friedland]

Wells. Yeah, for Africa, the wells.

[Clavicular]

And people were like, is $40 million really necessary? And you know, personally, I have no idea how any cost for the wells and well, that's what people are speculating I have no fucking idea. Quite honestly. I don't think anyone has any idea how much it costs to, you know, run a water project in Africa.

[Adam Friedland]

An interesting thing that you talk about is kind of like how economy that you were presented with at your age. The world that you were promised wasn't a better future. Right? Like, how would you explain that?

[Clavicular]

So essentially, what I always say is looks maxing is just another version of self improvement. And I'm simply stating that in terms of ascending your sexual market value, which means how valued you are by women, how easily you're gonna succeed in the dating market. It's a lot easier to improve your looks and improve your SMV by that metric than it is to overcome certain disparities with your finances or improving your status. Because what needs to be accomplished is so much greater than people could ever imagine to have equal results, right? So it's like, let's say you ascend. Making even seven figures a year sounds like an incredible number. And it is.

[Adam Friedland]

When you're a kid, you're like, that's the most money ever.

[Clavicular]

True. Real. I mean, especially when you live in big cities. So that's the thing, right? People get to these, like, insanely good milestones and then they're expecting these results and they're not coming.

[Adam Friedland]

Like getting pussy, you mean? Or like.

[Clavicular]

Well, the fact of the matter is looks are valued a lot greater in these big cities with how shit the economy is. That's really not getting you as far as you think.

[Adam Friedland]

You know, you could just also just move to New York because there's like so many gay guys that. There's just more straight women than straight guys. It's a hack.

[Clavicular]

Or you could just look smacks.

[Adam Friedland]

Have you seen Seinfeld before?

[Clavicular]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

George Costanza was like, on dates with elevens. And it's real. It's real.

[Clavicular]

That's actually what happens for any of the pop culture references we are.

[Adam Friedland]

No. You don't know any shows or movies?

[Clavicular]

Not. Not like anything before, like 2015.

[Adam Friedland]

So like transformers, like four?

[Clavicular]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

No. What's your favorite movie?

[Clavicular]

Favorite movie?

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, that's a tough one. Jester. Movies are Jester.

[Clavicular]

Movies are kind of jester.

[Adam Friedland]

And sports is. Oh, yeah, you hate sports.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. Movies I could, you know, put up with every once in a while.

[Adam Friedland]

What's the best one?

[Clavicular]

Let me think. The most enjoyable movie.

[Adam Friedland]

Dude, you gotta not go back to Miami. Just come chill with me and the.

[Clavicular]

Lads tonight and just watch movies.

[Adam Friedland]

Have you seen Moneyball?

[Clavicular]

I have. That's a good movie.

[Adam Friedland]

So us that movie. So Us. Have you seen it? I love it.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I like the. The movie Limitless.

[Adam Friedland]

You kind of are a Limitless style guy.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Is that kind of what having like a stack is? Is. Is like being limit. Justin Timberlake, or is this guy in Limitless.

[Clavicular]

Bradley.

[Adam Friedland]

Bradley Cooper?

[Clavicular]

Yeah. Yeah. So it kind of feels that way when you first start taking stimulants. Yeah, a little bit.

[Adam Friedland]

For me, I just write long emails to people that I haven't talked to in four years. So you grew up outside the city? Hoboken?

[Clavicular]

Yes.

[Adam Friedland]

And you've been staying with your family?

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Are you close with them?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I talk to them a fair bit. Just online, usually. I haven't seen them in person for about a year before this week.

[Adam Friedland]

You talk to them online? What do you mean?

[Clavicular]

Like, just over the phone?

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, that's on the phone. That's not online?

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You have a sister? Younger sister?

[Clavicular]

I do.

[Adam Friedland]

Are you close with her?

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. How many years apart?

[Clavicular]

She is turning 16, so four years.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, me and my sister are four years. Okay. Yep. Yeah. We gotta fucking protect our sisters, indeed. Yeah. My sister is my dog. We're, like, very close. You like Springseed? Who? Bruce Springsteen. He's like New Jersey. He's like a rocker dude. I gotta put him on his songs. I gotta put him on the movies. We got a movie Max and Song Max. At some point, the two of us as dogs. Your parents are also. They're bodybuilders. Is that right?

[Clavicular]

Back in the day before I was.

[Adam Friedland]

Born, you know, they were competitive, like Mr. Olympia.

[Clavicular]

No, not that. Like, that's the top of the top competition. Yeah, you know, just local stuff, you know?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Jersey.

[Clavicular]

My mom.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, your mom was.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, not my dad.

[Adam Friedland]

You had a jacked mom?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, before I was born.

[Adam Friedland]

Whoa. I wonder what it would be like to have a jack. What was it like to have a jacked mom?

[Clavicular]

I don't know.

[Adam Friedland]

You don't know? Your mom was. Oh, before you were born?

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. You had hot parents?

[Clavicular]

That's kind of a weird question.

[Adam Friedland]

I had a hot mom and a disgusting father. Yeah, I'm fine saying it. I did the measurements on their eyes and stuff.

[Clavicular]

Okay. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Did your dad teach you how to work out?

[Clavicular]

No, I kind of just figured it out on my own because we had a home gym that I would just dick around in when I was. Was growing up. And then I got my first gym membership and kind of would just watch, like, you know, various.

[Adam Friedland]

Rich. Piano Rich.

[Clavicular]

Yes.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. He was a night. He was a Psycho. I loved him.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I loved rich, too. Unfortunately, 99% of the shit he was doing is the complete opposite of what the literature suggests.

[Adam Friedland]

I can't believe it. I can't believe that he was doing this. Rest in peace, you God.

[Clavicular]

He was a great guy, but his mentality.

[Adam Friedland]

Did he die from steroids or can he die from steroids?

[Clavicular]

It definitely had a role in his passing, unfortunately. But you can die from steroids?

[Adam Friedland]

Yes.

[Clavicular]

It's putting a strain on your organs, you know? So when I talk about steroids and testosterone usage, it's put into the same category as these bodybuilding guys who are dying prematurely. But it's not a binary thing. Right. It's extremely dose dependent. So when you're talking about trt or slightly above that, that's not comparable with bodybuilders who are using about 10 or 20 times the dosage.

[Adam Friedland]

Does your dick get smaller or your balls.

[Clavicular]

Your balls.

[Adam Friedland]

Your balls get smaller? Yes. It kind of makes your dick look bigger.

[Clavicular]

Probably correct.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Proportionality.

[Adam Friedland]

It's probably true. Yeah. I should do. Dude, I have long balls.

[Clavicular]

Wait, what?

[Adam Friedland]

Nothing. Would you swipe your V? Like, 11, probably.

[Clavicular]

No, 16.

[Adam Friedland]

16. All right. That's a responsible age.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I thought so.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. So you got into looks maxing prior to.

[Clavicular]

Yes.

[Adam Friedland]

Getting shaped. Yeah. Was that a motivation? Those, like, message boards.

[Clavicular]

That was. But, you know, that wasn't necessarily the only thing I was thinking about at the time. It was more just like an objective, this will improve the quality of my life mentality. Yeah. And that was just one of the results of that, I guess you could say.

[Adam Friedland]

When did you start? Like 14.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay. Were you in COVID lockdown?

[Clavicular]

I was, yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Did you start?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, well, that was when I was eighth grade and freshman.

[Adam Friedland]

This fucking sucks. Yeah. You had to, like, be at home with your parents the whole time.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

If I, like, couldn't see my friends every day, it would just fucking suck. Yeah. So you got, like. You were online a lot during lockdown?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah, I was. I was definitely on the Internet probably 14 hours a day.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Yep.

[Clavicular]

Video games, whatever.

[Adam Friedland]

We don't talk about it enough, like, culturally about how that sucked for kids.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I don't really think it was that bad for most people, not gonna lie. Especially this generation. I think a lot of people just got to sit on their Xbox all day and not have to do any schoolwork. I don't really think that anyone was too upset by the whole process, but.

[Adam Friedland]

It probably, like, made it harder, like, to be, like, socialized. Right.

[Clavicular]

Well, I wasn't doing that anyway.

[Adam Friedland]

Were you a loner growing up?

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Your obsession prior to looks backstain was Nerf guns.

[Clavicular]

No, that's just one.

[Adam Friedland]

What's that all about?

[Clavicular]

That was one when I was like, you know, 8 or 9 years old.

[Adam Friedland]

How many Nerf guns do you have?

[Clavicular]

Not anymore.

[Adam Friedland]

Come on, dude. You talk about it. We all.

[Clavicular]

I said it one time, but that's good research.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. I know everything about you, dog. Wait, did you get obsessed with things growing up? Was that like an aspect of your personality?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, that was kind of the point I was trying to make.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. What other things were you obsessed with?

[Clavicular]

Was pretty obsessed with, like, GTA 5, I would say.

[Adam Friedland]

Obviously. Far.

[Clavicular]

I rotted on that for hours a day. Like minimum 10 hours every single day during COVID So it'd just be that kind of stuff. Just getting super hyper fixated.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Random shit.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. So I think that's pretty normal.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Video games for kids.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I guess. But just only playing one thing for. I have no idea.

[Adam Friedland]

I play sports games because I'm cool.

[Clavicular]

Okay.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. FIFA 2K.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. I wish I was that cool.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't trust a guy that doesn't like sports, honestly. You can't trust a guy that does like sports. You can't trust a guy that doesn't. Goes on seven dick appointments a week. Do you have seven dick appointments a week? That would suck. It's a lonely feeling actually being one of those guys.

[Clavicular]

What's that?

[Adam Friedland]

Nothing, bro. What are you guys. Is your camera guy. Do you guys. Are you roommates? Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Yep.

[Adam Friedland]

We're at Brickell.

[Clavicular]

No, thank God.

[Adam Friedland]

Where do you live in Miami?

[Clavicular]

Just no comment. But not.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, no. Yeah. I don't want to talk. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

I would say that Brickell is probably the worst place that you can possibly live if you're an influencer.

[Adam Friedland]

You know, this is all influencers.

[Clavicular]

It's all wannabe influencers.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

You want to stop you for a street interview when you're trying to get a coffee?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Like, do one of those.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Was your. Would you. Would you let your girl get a train run?

[Clavicular]

That's what they all say, right? Yeah. For.

[Adam Friedland]

For a million dollars, I'm like, obviously, I would let you do it for free. Yeah, I guess. Like, what's the genesis behind, like, the boards? Did it grow out of, like, incel and pua shit? Like.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, right.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Did you. Did you interact with that kind of shit?

[Clavicular]

That was before my time. That was kind of when I was, like, born was when it was like, all conceptualized. On the Internet.

[Adam Friedland]

So the genesis behind it was like, if you're involuntary celibate, you're like, I'm actually not gonna accept this. I'm gonna become a, like, piece of ass, and then I'll get girls.

[Clavicular]

That was the idea behind it. It was more so like identifying the world. I think it was more so just identifying why people were in cell. And then it kind of transitioned into, okay, how could we fix this now?

[Adam Friedland]

Have you ever been in love?

[Clavicular]

That's a tough question.

[Adam Friedland]

You know, it's awesome. It's the ultimate. Honestly, it feels great, but it feels crazy. It feels like you're taking crazy pills sometimes it's like, what are we even doing? I think you've been in love. I feel like you're capping. That's cap I can see on your face.

[Clavicular]

Well, I just said I love her.

[Adam Friedland]

Boy, you don't know. So you thought it could be love?

[Clavicular]

I have no idea.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Do you think that your career has complicated, like, having, like, a stable relationship?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, for sure.

[Adam Friedland]

You had a girlfriend recently?

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And did it make it tough?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, certainly. It's kind of not really possible to do what I do just because of the hours. Like, you know, with all this kind of production oriented stuff where you're kind of running a show. It's a little less time devotion than, like, the streams. Like, the streaming hours are beyond brutal, and the shit that I do on stream isn't something that most girls would want to be a part of.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, like hose. Like flurries.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

For Brickle, Brickle type style.

[Clavicular]

Hose, Brickle, hose.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Trying to do street interviews are the worst. Do you ever worry that you'll be like, you'll get so hot that you'll be hotter than your girlfriend? You don't want to be hotter than your girlfriend.

[Clavicular]

Why?

[Adam Friedland]

He's just like, what? You want to date? No, you don't.

[Clavicular]

That's like, typically how it is in modern dating.

[Adam Friedland]

Not for me. Not at all. Dude, she is an idiot. I can't believe she's gonna wake up one day and be like, what the hell have I been? Well, yeah, I guess there is an aspect of dating that is like courtship. Right. Like, it's not sexy if someone is pursuing you. Right. Like, it's more sexy if you have a crush on someone and you want to, like, you know, like, be charming and get them to like you.

[Clavicular]

Right. And women are just outrageously hypergamous.

[Adam Friedland]

What does that mean?

[Clavicular]

It means that they're trying to date above their looks level to a ridiculous degree.

[Adam Friedland]

You gotta move to New York, dude. You see some of the gargoyles with just elevens, dude, it's a different world.

[Clavicular]

That's because there's a lot of people in New York who are like gay.

[Adam Friedland]

Gay guys.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I was going to say money maxers, like, you know, finance. Not even as a whole. Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

What, what is true about women is they are hypergamous. They're dating above their looks level. And if they're not, if they're better looking than the guy, it can 99% of the time be attributed to either money or status. They're way better.

[Adam Friedland]

So titties and assholes.

[Clavicular]

That's why I don't really understand when people give like, you know, anecdotes on breaking these rules. When it's like, yeah, as a whole we're looking at a society here not, you know, were you able to get with a chick who's hotter than you?

[Adam Friedland]

I don't know, it's just like they like it kind of a little bit if we're like a little ugly sometimes.

[Clavicular]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

I think, yeah, bro.

[Clavicular]

Well, you're also a millionaire. Status billionaire. Billionaire. Oh wait, I did see. Someone says.

[Adam Friedland]

Why did they say billionaire? Who tweeted that? That I'm a billionaire?

[Clavicular]

I don't know. I was like, is that true?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, I'm a billionaire, dude.

[Clavicular]

But you know, as a whole, these rules are true and these are rules.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't think they're true. Dude, you're.

[Clavicular]

I think you're making up rules. No, I don't think so.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm telling you, dude, all my friends, girlfriends are hotter than them. Are all your friends rich Steven's roster, Steven? No, not at all. Back me up, Steven.

[Clavicular]

And that's another common cope is people just don't know how to properly rate individuals attractiveness because they'll score women a lot higher. Because it's like, yeah, these are hot. Exactly. But when you actually know the objective measurements, it doesn't become about sexual attraction. It's about mathematics. And you're able to be a lot more analytical with, you know, rating people.

[Adam Friedland]

But what's sexy about math?

[Clavicular]

Well, it's about figuring out attractiveness.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't need to know the math on a pair of tits, you know?

[Clavicular]

Well, it's about, it's about the faces. And at the end of the day, yeah, you see a girl, you think she's hot. It's the same. But we're just trying to identify why, you know, why you have that subconscious instinct, you know.

[Adam Friedland]

But why?

[Clavicular]

What makes a Face good. What makes a face bad. That's the kind of stuff that I'm just explaining to people.

[Adam Friedland]

I think girls are hot. Sometimes I get horny for them.

[Clavicular]

There you go. Well, we're just.

[Adam Friedland]

I've been horny for them, for them my whole life, dude. Even before I can bust, dude, I've been horny for them. Anyway, let's not get carried away. Can you break it down for me? So what are these measurements? And like, how have they. Is it crowdsourced? Is it like the community has kind of determined.

[Clavicular]

Like they do a lot of psl.

[Adam Friedland]

Psl, yeah. Okay.

[Clavicular]

So it comes from a bunch of different sources. You know, even something like the mid face ratio tracks back to ancient Greece. But a lot of it is, you know, attractiveness surveys, scientists determining what is the most ideal measurement, right? And you take all these measurements and you come up with a total facial harmony score. And that kind of is able to be gauged on how attractive someone is. There's other things that play a role, like phenotype, you know, and if you were to extend it to just the full body and height and frame, things like that. So there's a lot that goes into it, but it's all very objective.

[Adam Friedland]

And this is kind of something that's like the community has debated and kind of like.

[Clavicular]

It's not like that makes it sound like it's just a bunch of autists on forums kind of debating. Well, no, I know there's no like guru.

[Adam Friedland]

There's no like Ross Jeffries, who.

[Clavicular]

No, it's not like one guy's opinion. You know, it's all very well researched.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you know Ross Jeffries is.

[Clavicular]

I don't.

[Adam Friedland]

He's like the first pickup artist guy when we were 15. My friend Tommy's like, dude, I'm sick of not fucking. I was like, we all are, dude. And he's like, I downloaded these lectures from KAZA of this guy Ross Jeffries. And I was like, what? Like, you're not gonna get pussy from lectures. And he fucked at school, like three days later at school. Literally. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. And then he started dating that girl and he saved her in his phone as bitch, bitch. It was rude. Quite rude. So just explain to me what like the PSL kind of like, you know, layman's terms. Because I. I'm like, not very smart. But like.

[Clavicular]

Well, PSL was.

[Adam Friedland]

There's four categories. Sorry. It's an eight point scale.

[Clavicular]

Right, Right. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

So how's that determined?

[Clavicular]

So that's just a different rating system that came from the community and those are just. PSL is three lookism oriented forums and pickup artist type things. So the idea behind it is that there's no such thing as a 10 and the highest rating was an 8. Now it's kind of been skewed to match the decile scale. So it's not completely what it is. What's the decile scale like out of 10?

[Adam Friedland]

Out of 10? Oh yeah.

[Clavicular]

So people will kind of just try to like make it translatable when that was never really the intention. There was a reason There was no 9 and 10 included in the scale. So that's kind of just what it comes down to.

[Adam Friedland]

What are the three categories?

[Clavicular]

The three categories?

[Adam Friedland]

You said there were three standards.

[Clavicular]

No, it's just three forums that PSL stands for.

[Adam Friedland]

What does it stand for?

[Clavicular]

Pickup artist Hate, Slut hate and Lookism.

[Adam Friedland]

Slut Hate?

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

What do they say? Just fuck girls?

[Clavicular]

Well, that's what the forum was called.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Who was on the boards? Was it like his?

[Clavicular]

Your age now? It is, yeah. Now it's often people who are a little bit younger. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Are there girls on there?

[Clavicular]

Sometimes there will be girls who try to like larp their way into the community when it's meant to be a male dominated space or just like a male space in general. Because women have just an exponentially easier time living life and sort of getting away with whatever the fuck they want. So you know, you give them like this whole looks max avenue now to make things even easier. It's just, I don't know, makes the playing board kind of.

[Adam Friedland]

But haven't they. They've been look maxing for a long time though.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, but not properly.

[Adam Friedland]

Not properly.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

So wait, there's. Correct me if I'm wrong, there's normie for guys, right. Low tier, mid tier, high tier normie.

[Clavicular]

Yes.

[Adam Friedland]

And then there's Chad Turbo. Chad Gigachad.

[Clavicular]

Chad Light. Chad.

[Adam Friedland]

Chad Light.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

What are you?

[Clavicular]

I don't rate myself.

[Adam Friedland]

We're like giga. No.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, sure. We're like giga.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. People don't understand what it's like for us to be true. Yeah. Is your philosophy that like one can make themselves into Chad if they want? No.

[Clavicular]

So genetics are going to play a huge role in everything and what's able to be accomplished. But you know, anyone can improve their looks to a pretty significant degree if they're willing to do sort of whatever it takes and go with that mentality.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

But obviously your base where you start out Is going to determine a lot of, uh huh. You know. Yeah, you might look smacks your entire life, do everything properly. But if you're someone who just does not have the genetic base to allow for you to be a chad or anything, you might be a little disappointed.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. How do you conceive of yourself prior to like going on this transformation? Like what do you think of that kid?

[Clavicular]

No, I'd say it's like a very like linear process to looks max. It's not like a, you know, where you leave your cocoon or whatever, like a butterfly or some sort of metamorphosis. It's very slow and steady. So I don't really think you change your, you know, view on anything.

[Adam Friedland]

Had you not looked smacks you think you'd still be a hot guy? You probably would.

[Clavicular]

No, I would say that, you know, obviously your genetics are gonna play the biggest role in everything, but you have it right. I don't think I would be as. As good looking. No, not as.

[Adam Friedland]

But like you'd still be a hot guy.

[Clavicular]

I don't know.

[Adam Friedland]

But not as hot.

[Clavicular]

It really is hard to pinpoint exactly how much some of the different interventions would have played a role or where I would have got to.

[Adam Friedland]

I know you said you wanted to get double job and you're not going to do it now. What's double?

[Clavicular]

I still want to do it, but there's just been a lot of.

[Adam Friedland]

What does it do?

[Clavicular]

Just advances your upper maxilla and your lower mandible.

[Adam Friedland]

You just get. Your mouth is like print out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Clavicular]

Turkey.

[Adam Friedland]

You're going to Turkey?

[Clavicular]

Yeah. There's just a lot of complications with travel right now that I'm not going to get into.

[Adam Friedland]

You're on the no fly list?

[Clavicular]

No, no, nothing like that.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. We got to go to Turkey.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I'll get. I get rid of plus. There you go. Actually, I like my nose. I used to not like it.

[Clavicular]

Okay.

[Adam Friedland]

I like it. The other thing was leg. Leg breaking. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

That was kind of just like a thought experiment. I think people didn't really understand what I was getting at. Was the reason I was talking about sort of the ling, like limb lengthening stuff was just about roi. And then I kind of started popping off in another area which was, you know, social media status, money. And I realized that the ROI was not, you know, not worth it anymore in terms of like ascending my SMB. I was able to just leverage something else.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. How tall are you now? Six. Two.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. So that's the goal at the end of the day is to maximize SMV and if you could do, do so through other areas, you know, go for it.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Gesturing.

[Clavicular]

But at the end of the day that's going to be incredibly difficult for someone to have like the status ascension I did.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Where it makes it comparable.

[Adam Friedland]

Can I ask you a question? Is it like, looks maxi a means of like avoiding like. It's called gesturing. But like just like chat. Chatting like. Or like flirting with girls if you're like so hot you don't have to talk to them.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. It certainly makes it easier to be.

[Adam Friedland]

A dumbass to not talk to girls.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Also just about like when I was like a 16, like just being so afraid if a girl doesn't want to kiss me back. Like, just like, like wanting to kiss a chick and like how nauseating you feel at that age. And like, had that been post me too, it probably would have been even scarier. Right.

[Clavicular]

I've never had to.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm just saying, like, does that make it scarier? Like, does that make dating or like, or gender relation, like relating to women scarier for. For guys your age? No, no. Me too.

[Clavicular]

I've never had any issues.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm not saying you got me too. No, no, you're not listening to me. I'm saying that it creates a fear. Kids are having less sex now.

[Clavicular]

That is true. Yeah. There's a lot of statistics about this. Young men are. I'm pretty sure 2/3 of young men, 18 through 21 haven't had sex in six months. So it's, you know, it's quite brutal. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

That's crazy. I guess, like, let's. Let's go into like your fame. Right. Like it's been rapid.

[Clavicular]

Correct.

[Adam Friedland]

What has it been like to like to become a famous person very quickly?

[Clavicular]

Well, I don't want to use the term famous, just kind of well known, maybe infamous even.

[Adam Friedland]

Famous. Famous. Say it, dude. Say it with your chest.

[Clavicular]

No, no. Yeah, not yet. Hopefully one day.

[Adam Friedland]

But you get more famous. But you're very famous.

[Clavicular]

I've kind of been doing social media for a little bit longer than people realize because I just started streaming and you know, going super mainstream. But I had been posting and doing content for about a year now. So.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Which I guess in, you know, the grand scheme of things for social media, that's still, you know, relatively short in terms of like career longevity. But yeah, so the live streaming started in about November was when it kind of took off. So yeah, it's been a quick rise from there. But I don't know I've been adapting.

[Adam Friedland]

What do you attribute it to?

[Clavicular]

Consistency. And it's just. It's new, it's fresh, it's content. You know, people are doing the same shit all the time on Twitch, you know, and no one gives a fuck anymore. It's the same streams. It's like video games. It's just boring.

[Adam Friedland]

Right, But I don't watch it.

[Clavicular]

Exactly. Yeah, no, so. And people are realizing that more and more. So everyone looks for what's new on the Internet.

[Adam Friedland]

Who's your fan base? Who's the squad? Would you have a name for the stands?

[Clavicular]

No, not. Not really.

[Adam Friedland]

What are they called? Clav Gang. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

No, no real name really is it.

[Adam Friedland]

It's. It's a lot of guys. It's a lot of young men.

[Clavicular]

Surprisingly, it's actually pretty split down the middle.

[Adam Friedland]

Really?

[Clavicular]

Yeah. I would say in terms of like my live stream viewership, it would be like mostly men, but I have a lot of female fans, like, you know, for being hot. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what exactly.

[Adam Friedland]

Come on, bro. You're. You have an smv. That's why the. The bitches want to come on.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I don't. I think it's just from. From Tick Tock. Like would be most of the female audience, like, they're not really interacting with.

[Adam Friedland]

These girls right here.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Tick Tock. Probably.

[Adam Friedland]

Wait, I felt bad for you when I saw that clip of the Orlando Asian kid. What up, homie? Yo, you think you can sign my sell my album?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I got you, man. Yeah, no worries.

[Adam Friedland]

Deborah, we've been on your ass since the moment you were streaming since November.

[Clavicular]

Oh, hell yeah, dude. Good stuff.

[Adam Friedland]

You think we take a stream photo?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, let's do it, man.

[Adam Friedland]

I bet. All right, in the count of three. Three, two, one. Oh my God, that kid sucked.

[Clavicular]

Oh, man, that is so annoying when like I'll be just trying to talk to girls and in the bar or whatever, but you know, people want to spam a million photos and it's like, I get it and I like all the fans, but if you're dropping game on like a chick irl, like people will come up and you know, kind of distract you or whatever. Yeah, a little bit by accident.

[Adam Friedland]

But you know, how could you even call yourself the Orlando Asian Mogger when that guy is clearly mogged no one is entire life. He's a liar. He should call himself the Orlando Asian Liar perhaps.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I'm not really sure if that was like a clip farmer or whatnot.

[Adam Friedland]

But yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess like I, when I found out about you, it's like, I guess you've had like various controversial moments. But like those have obviously for me as like a middle aged man, like those are the times that it gets on my like algorithm. Right. Yeah. Is there a pressure there? I guess like to like controversy? Max.

[Clavicular]

Most content creators try to clip form.

[Adam Friedland]

What is clip form?

[Clavicular]

Like just do stupid shit to go viral. But a lot of the times, like I won't really be thinking too hard.

[Adam Friedland]

It's just happens. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

The thing is all those clipping accounts that just went viral for that kind of shit, none of those words are anything that I even understand myself. Like it's just people making up random shit because they pay clippers based on viewership. So they're just writing dumb shit. And like they'll put filters on your face.

[Adam Friedland]

What words are they say?

[Clavicular]

Like jester gooning. Doesn't like really mean it.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you feel like that's making fun of you a little bit?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I would say so, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

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[Clavicular]

Well, what percent of people are Chad?

[Adam Friedland]

Like, like what do you view the world?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, you know, point one, maybe.

[Adam Friedland]

Point one? Yeah. Yeah. Do you, you feel like you occupy that, that percentage?

[Clavicular]

No, I don't really like to try to categorize my looks. Want to look better?

[Adam Friedland]

Yes.

[Clavicular]

That's the message.

[Adam Friedland]

You, you aspire to look, to do looks Maxim.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, like, I don't really think the whole rating thing. For some reason, people are goddamn obsessed with figuring out the rating. Ask me for a rating. But dude, just look better. That's, that's all you need to worry about.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. When you look at the mirror, do you see the imperfections that you want to correct?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, but it's not like one of those body dysmorphia type of, you know, reactions where I'm just like, can't even leave the house because I like, you know, my mid face ratio is off by like one millimeter type thing. And there are people like that. There are people like that. I know, look at these girls.

[Adam Friedland]

What's fighting out of their chairs right now?

[Clavicular]

So I know what's suboptimal about my face, but I don't really let it occupy.

[Adam Friedland]

What is suboptimal about your face?

[Clavicular]

Well, you know, obviously there's, there's plenty of things. Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Geez, you're fire, dude. You know, plenty of things. What are you talking about, dude?

[Clavicular]

Well, just being like, what am I then?

[Adam Friedland]

I should kill myself. What is like, you suboptimal? You look incredible.

[Clavicular]

Well, almost no one has.

[Adam Friedland]

Look at Superman or something.

[Clavicular]

Well, almost no one has a completely perfect face according to science. Right. So you could find things that are flaws on anyone, but you know, some of them will be minor and some people will be extremely deformed. So it's just like whole things, a spectrum.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

But I don't really think about it too much on it.

[Adam Friedland]

Right. You know, so I guess, like, what do you do day to day? Like, what's your, like Kind of rate routine.

[Clavicular]

A lot of it is pharmacology. Right. So I like, like using pharmaceutical. Yeah, yeah. So what that would kind of look like is I don't like the endocrine system, which is like your natural testosterone production. Because just in a modern society there are so many things that are meant to disrupt this process. So my entire mentality is just don't try to fight it with doing these stupid carnivore diets and wearing like this cotton clothes. It's like just get off the entire thing and use exogenous hormones.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay.

[Clavicular]

So that's the first thing that I do is testosterone.

[Adam Friedland]

What is that, like a syringe?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah. So that's one. The next thing is going to be a GLP1 agonist.

[Adam Friedland]

What is that?

[Clavicular]

So I use something similar to Ozempic called retatrutide.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay.

[Clavicular]

And that's a peptide that basically suppresses my appetite, making it difficult to eat. I don't really think about food too much. And because being lean is about 70% of what you could accomplish in terms of looks, maximum. And then the next thing is, you know, hair loss because 2/3 of men by 21 years old are experiencing some form of male pattern baldness. So avoiding that is really going to be something that's crucial to maintaining those looks.

[Adam Friedland]

I agree.

[Clavicular]

So taking what's called a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor, testosterone converts into dihydrotestosterone through this one enzyme in your body. So you're blocking that process because DHT is going to be a huge problem for your hair.

[Adam Friedland]

Right.

[Clavicular]

Causes hair follicle miniaturization.

[Adam Friedland]

Would you rather lose your hair or your dick? Because I was a dick personally? Yeah. Yeah. Fucking. I would look terrible without hair. I look sick.

[Clavicular]

Exactly.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. But if you go bald, you could go jacked. You could go Bruce Willis kind of.

[Clavicular]

No, that just makes you look like one of those cringe red pill jesters.

[Adam Friedland]

I think they're jesters too. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

I kind of just like to refer back to the quote, like hair is life and if you have no hair, you have no life.

[Adam Friedland]

Confucian? Confucius.

[Clavicular]

No, that's actually Saint Hammoudy.

[Adam Friedland]

Who's Saint Moody.

[Clavicular]

Saint Moody. Just some autists from like the black veil space.

[Adam Friedland]

He's not from the Bible.

[Clavicular]

No, no.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And then you do. So you do like a finasteride or whatever, something similar. Okay.

[Clavicular]

Do tasteride.

[Adam Friedland]

Because the T makes you. Makes you go bald faster. Yeah. It gives you acne.

[Clavicular]

The testosterone and its byproduct.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

The Hydro testosterone.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. So you just do those three things.

[Clavicular]

No, I mean we'll be sitting here for a little while.

[Adam Friedland]

We go through the whole medical school.

[Clavicular]

Well, I got kicked out of school.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, but whatever, we'll get you back in. I don't want to be a Jewish mother. But you should go to medical school. You don't want to.

[Clavicular]

Horrible idea.

[Adam Friedland]

Why? You know all this crap. You can help people doing medical school.

[Clavicular]

I would never go back to school. I'm already doing good enough on social media where I can't even think about the word school in a serious context.

[Adam Friedland]

You could be a doctor. You could be a good day. It's a good job.

[Clavicular]

No, no doctors.

[Adam Friedland]

You know all this stuff. Do doctors agree with the stuff you're saying right now?

[Clavicular]

Doctors are.

[Adam Friedland]

You're a rogue.

[Clavicular]

I'm telling you. Listen, these people are literally going to school for 10 years accumulating a retarded amount of debt.

[Adam Friedland]

Retarded. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Just to make like, you know, a wage that's not really going to elevate you to a position where you could beat any looks disparity. So it just doesn't really make sense to me.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, but your mom tells the daughter like you find her doctor.

[Clavicular]

If you're gonna take out hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of loans, you might as well invest it into surgery rather than going to school.

[Adam Friedland]

What if you could be a plastic surgeon?

[Clavicular]

And by the way, you can actually get college loans and use it for surgery. So this is a method. So I've been, I've been telling people. Yeah, you can literally do that. So just misappropriating the funds, it's really not going to get you in that much trouble. And you'll mog, so you'll be able to sort of get out of it.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay, let's. Let's do a rapid fire questions. Okay. This will be fun. You were interviewed by Michael Knowles. What do you think of that? Guy's a bitch.

[Clavicular]

I thought he was very nice.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay, nevermind. I, I mogged, I mogged when he came on here. He's a nice guy. Whatever.

[Clavicular]

He is nice.

[Adam Friedland]

He just tells trans people they should be eradicated. He's a really nice guy.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, so that's why I just like. I don't like to think about politics because these people get into these manic headspaces over nonsense and I'm losers, dude. Why?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. I have politicians on their fucking.

[Clavicular]

Which ones?

[Adam Friedland]

They're jesters, dude.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, for real.

[Adam Friedland]

I had, I had the mayor Zoron. Have you Heard of him?

[Clavicular]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

He's fire. He's pretty fire.

[Clavicular]

Zo Rob.

[Adam Friedland]

Zo Ron.

[Clavicular]

I never heard of the guy.

[Adam Friedland]

He's sick. He's the New York mayor.

[Clavicular]

Oh shit.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

I'm so far removed. Fuck man.

[Adam Friedland]

He's a. He's a. He's got a high sexual market value. Do you gesture when you're chilling with your boys? You guys. Can you gesture with guys? Can you just not gesture with girls? Is okay to gesture with fellas?

[Clavicular]

Dude, honestly, it's okay to gesture regardless.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh my God. Thank you. When I read that gesturing was cope, it forced me to look in the mirror when I was learning.

[Clavicular]

It's just like about. You just have to be kind of conscious of the fact that you're gesturing. That's like the main distinction that needs to be made because some people will gesture and genuinely think it's like game or the right approach. But like if you just want to be silly and fuck around like that's perfectly fine.

[Adam Friedland]

Fun to make a girl laugh at a joke though. It's fun.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Good.

[Clavicular]

It's like that's not really gesture maxing though. Jester maxing would be like juggling. Yeah, that or just like maybe self deprecating humor would be like one thing.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah.

[Clavicular]

That's like a very jester Max thing to do.

[Adam Friedland]

What do you do for fun? What's like what, what's.

[Clavicular]

Dude, I'm gonna be honest, I don't do anything besides stream.

[Adam Friedland]

Come on, bro, you gotta have fun. Sometimes you gotta put yeah with the boys and make jokes about it because it's a bad movie. Just try it out. Yo, where's the camera guy? Just, just please just promise me you'll do that with him. We can try.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

No. Why fuck no.

[Clavicular]

Dude would rather. The way I think about it is like when I'm doing anything off camera that's like an activity, I'm like, I could be streaming this, getting paid right now.

[Adam Friedland]

Come on, dude, you can't just make you separate a little bit.

[Clavicular]

Think about it, right? There's literally people who do shit like mini golf and bowling and like go and hang out with like go to dinner dates with girls off screen. They're not getting paid. Yeah, like dude, doesn't that with you a little bit? Like there's people who actually.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you think that that's what people are primarily doing or you make dinner with your girl, you put on a girl show.

[Clavicular]

Stream it, bro.

[Adam Friedland]

You do face. No, I don't, I don't know. I wanna, I actually like What a private life. And I had to learn that.

[Clavicular]

Dude, I want my hourly streaming.

[Adam Friedland]

Here's the thing. I think that people are a little. When I read, like, at social media, I think, like, people are kind of ignoring the fact that you're 20, right?

[Clavicular]

Yeah. I would say that pretty much every content creator has seemingly got like this treatment for immaturity or like, you know, people excuse bad behaviors. But that's never been applied to me whatsoever.

[Adam Friedland]

Why?

[Clavicular]

I don't know. Maybe it's because I just come across as like, more mature and when I do, like these long form, like, podcasts a lot of the time, so people don't realize my age a lot of the times. And I'm also like a figure of authority in the looks maxing space.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

So they're like, okay, well, we're not gonna give you an easy out on this one, but it's fine. I don't really, you know, complain about it.

[Adam Friedland]

What aspects of life would you not stream? Like, taking a shit. You would stream. Yeah. Shower, getting pussy.

[Clavicular]

Well, I mean, have you streamed getting.

[Adam Friedland]

Having sex.

[Clavicular]

You can't do that. Like actually put it on the camera. But I've done it, like with the mic on.

[Adam Friedland]

Really? Wait, you're rocking. You're rocking her world. What's it like for a girl having sex with you?

[Clavicular]

Like one minute and then you have to go to a clinic a few days later.

[Adam Friedland]

You're, you're, you, you, you hit it. You hit it quick.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, bro, I got to get back to work. I'm busy guy. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You're such a legend. It's crazy, dude. You're such a legend. Why are girls more flattered about premature ejaculations? If a girl prematurely ejaculated the best of sex, what A girl should be like, wow, I was incredible today.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, dude, it's about my time, right?

[Adam Friedland]

It's. Oh, so you make yourself bust really fast.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, bro, I'm not here to flatter anyone.

[Adam Friedland]

So then just jack off.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Yeah. What is the looks back saying?

[Clavicular]

You ever do the Stranger?

[Adam Friedland]

What's the Stranger?

[Clavicular]

Oh, dude, I love telling people about this one.

[Adam Friedland]

What is it?

[Clavicular]

So basically, you got to sit on your hand until.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Classic.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

The Stranger.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I was gonna say, have you.

[Adam Friedland]

Ever done the Tennessee Pile Driver?

[Clavicular]

I kind of want to know. What is it?

[Adam Friedland]

It's you're stupping on a wall and the force is so big that you smash through the wall. Okay, yeah, yeah. No. Have you ever done the Darwin The Darwin.

[Clavicular]

Maybe by accident.

[Adam Friedland]

You put your soft dick in a girl's mouth and then it evolves.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I've done that one.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Yeah. That's a fun one. So do you feel like a fear or an anxiety about sex staying on top? Like I asked you this earlier, but are people coming for your spot ever?

[Clavicular]

No, I mean, like, there's. Making good content is kind of like the goal at the end of the day. And I think I'm pretty captivating based on what's been happening with the numbers. So I'm just going to continue that. Continue being myself.

[Adam Friedland]

What about Marlin? Who's. Who's this Marlin I'm seeing? Yeah, yeah, but he's a hot guy too.

[Clavicular]

I don't know. It's up to you, man.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. I don't fucking look at guy. I don't. I don't do the math on guys. Hotness. Dude, who's the hottest girl?

[Clavicular]

The hottest girl ever. Ever.

[Adam Friedland]

And we're gonna go around the room. Get rid of it.

[Clavicular]

Maybe you go first. I don't know.

[Adam Friedland]

Denise Richards, That James Bond movie, Dr. Christmas Jones.

[Clavicular]

What, the old James Bond stuff?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. With Pierce Brosnan. Yeah. She was an 11 or the movie Wild Things model. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

The thing about that question is like, I'll kind of flip flop on the answer a little bit.

[Adam Friedland]

Who sweetie you think is number one?

[Clavicular]

I think that bitch looks like shit. Really?

[Adam Friedland]

I saw the clip where you say she looks like crap.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. So you baited me to say that she got big.

[Adam Friedland]

Have you seen the Things?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Kind of awesome. No?

[Clavicular]

Yeah. But it's just hard to get over that face. Come on pause and she's gonna be shooting your head off about some like, political issue.

[Adam Friedland]

You think Sydney sweetie is political?

[Clavicular]

People want her to be.

[Adam Friedland]

They want her to be. They want you to be.

[Clavicular]

I know, bro. It's.

[Adam Friedland]

Why do people attribute looks maxing to be right?

[Clavicular]

They just don't know what it is, man. So there's kind of, you know, scrambling to figure out what I'm about and. Because it's a whole new thing. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Because you got your forums, you say naughty words. So they think it's right wing.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, that's just like any fringe, you know, culture on the Internet is kind of like edgy and, you know, not something that you would hear just out and about on a day to day basis. So it's not necessarily political at all. It just looks. It's self improvement.

[Adam Friedland]

Who's the hottest chick? Dude, just. Come on, just tell me.

[Clavicular]

Hottest chick. I think Taylor Hill's pretty good. Just a model.

[Adam Friedland]

Who's that? Run a pick. Let me see. Come on. She's fire. And you guys think that Matt Bonner is the hottest guy.

[Clavicular]

I said the highest in terms of the objective harmony ratios.

[Adam Friedland]

Matt from the Spurs. The redhead guy. The three point shooter. Matt Bonner.

[Clavicular]

See?

[Adam Friedland]

Let's check. She's hot. Let me see. Do you. Do you take that down or no?

[Clavicular]

Nah, man, not yet.

[Adam Friedland]

Just say what up to her? Just DM her or something.

[Clavicular]

Couple more fashion shows maybe.

[Adam Friedland]

Really? She's a fashion model? Yeah, just say hi or something.

[Clavicular]

Dude, that's the thing.

[Adam Friedland]

You know what you should do? Respond to a story and say, damn, bro, she's perf. And then she'll say question mark and you'll be like, I meant to send that to my friend. Dude.

[Clavicular]

She descended.

[Adam Friedland]

That's what jesters do.

[Clavicular]

She descended since. Since that photo.

[Adam Friedland]

So she ended. She's dead.

[Clavicular]

Descended.

[Adam Friedland]

Descended.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, like looks worse.

[Adam Friedland]

I gotta show you some shit, dude. There's a whole wide world out there outside of male beauty. Peep this, you're gonna love it. Those are nice headphones too. Check those out. You know this track? Put them on, dude. Or you want to mess up your.

[Clavicular]

Not really my style.

[Adam Friedland]

Come on. Can I put you. I'll play you another track. Not really. Your song. You're an idiot. Okay. This song will change your life. Yeah. Garden State, dude. She says this song will change your life and it does. Does your boy know these songs? What, the Karma Police? Yeah, from Invincible. From what? The show. What's Invincible? Oh, you don't know it. It's an animated show. No, I don't watch cartoons, bro. What the man? You don't with this?

[Clavicular]

No, no.

[Adam Friedland]

All right. You want to hear a song that I wrote? Tell me if this is good.

[Clavicular]

Do you want me to be honest?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, be honest. Honestly. Okay. Okay. Weary, feeling small.

[Clavicular]

Little slow.

[Adam Friedland]

Keep listening, dude. Wait for the hook. Like a bridge over trouble water. Can I ask you another question? What's your favorite animal? Dog. Yeah, me too.

[Clavicular]

I have a dog.

[Adam Friedland]

Me too. What kind of dog?

[Clavicular]

I don't know.

[Adam Friedland]

I have pit bull.

[Clavicular]

I hate when people ask me that question. Like they think it's weird if. If you don't know what kind of dog you have.

[Adam Friedland]

Dude, look at my dog.

[Clavicular]

And that's another. Just like that's when Normies interacting. Nice.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

What do you think I got her from the street?

[Clavicular]

Normies interacting is always so silly to me because they're like.

[Adam Friedland]

What was that?

[Clavicular]

Like normal people yeah, because they run into each other and they're like, oh, what kind of dog do you have? As if they give a shit about that.

[Adam Friedland]

Is they go mini golf. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Answer. So. Yeah. No, I never.

[Adam Friedland]

Wait, let me see your dog then. Just be a normie for a second. Just be normal. Maybe for a second, dude. All right, your dog looks. That's your best friend.

[Clavicular]

Is that what they say?

[Adam Friedland]

I don't know. Who's your best friend? This guy in the back. He fucked 10 girls and he said low double digit.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. I can't even find a picture.

[Adam Friedland]

Like, where do you rank male beauty in, like, the kind of scale of what's important? Like the highest. Like, higher than, like, kindness or something?

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Really? Why is that?

[Clavicular]

Well, because these things are going to be perceived according to the physical, right? So, like, all the intangible things, like, you know, being kind or, you know, being funny.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

That's all going to be haloed by your attractiveness. So there's no point in really valuing them as separate things when they're all kind of interconnected.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, like, Mother Teresa, she wasn't quite. She was a looker, but she was. She's famous for her kindness. Right. Like, she didn't need a baseline attractiveness. She was. She was kind. Right. Like, she, you know.

[Clavicular]

Well, nobody gives a shit about Mother Teresa. I'm gonna be honest with you.

[Adam Friedland]

People do. No, people, she's. She's. She's famous. Yeah.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. But, like, I think people are probably gonna care more about someone in Hollywood, like a Brad Pitt figure than they.

[Adam Friedland]

Would Mother Teresa, because he's hotter than her.

[Clavicular]

He probably mogs.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, he mogs. He would mog her, that's for sure.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Since you've maximized your attractiveness. Right. The things that I've seen, like, I found out about you from are like, things like. Like the car, the, you know, the. The thing last week in Arizona. Like, those kind of things, I guess, have those. Do you perceive those as complicated your life? Like, you know, like. So it's just like. Is the formula of, like, maximizing your attractiveness to make everything better, does that necessarily. Maybe. Does that complicate it?

[Clavicular]

Well, I just have an interesting status, I guess you could say, where I'm like, a infamous figure. Yeah. So, you know, where there's a lot of love. And I would say that's 99% of interactions. Those aren't the ones that are going viral on headlines as some one dickhead who is a hater and wants to, you know, do some dumbass Shit, yeah. You know what I mean? So that's just what goes viral, but that's not the reality of the situation. Yeah, the reality of the situation is, you know, I'm talking about men's issues and kind of identifying with that. And no one's been a spokesperson for, you know, this, the struggle in any meaningful way. I would say there's a lot of.

[Adam Friedland]

You're the first.

[Clavicular]

Well, there's just a lot of like disinformation, I guess would be the way you could put it. Or there's sort of like a key element that's always been missing from the manosphere and the red pill space, which was that looks are an extremely important thing and they shouldn't be ignored. So I think young men, like, feel kind of understood by my message, like, you know, by me.

[Adam Friedland]

What resonates, you think with young men?

[Clavicular]

Well, because I understand it, right.

[Adam Friedland]

It's.

[Clavicular]

It's not like I have my head super big because I'm famous. It's like I kind of blew up on social media not that long ago. So I was right there in the struggle.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Clavicular]

You know, I was still working a normal job less than a year ago.

[Adam Friedland]

Wage cook.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, I was wage cooking.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. What was your last job?

[Clavicular]

Working at a restaurant?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. If you're close with your sister, right. If someone told her that she was low tier Becky or subhuman, whatever, like, would you want to beat their ass?

[Clavicular]

Well, that'd be like sort of a cortisol spike. So the expectation for you to do some dumb ass shit and like get into fights all the time, I think it's just a culture that definitely needs to be added. Like, I'm, you know, I'm high class and I don't do shit like that.

[Adam Friedland]

In the same sense as Michael Knowles fixating on trans people's lives. Like, what is the merit of telling someone that they. That they are nasty?

[Clavicular]

Like, well, yeah, I guess. And I would not really do that unless someone were to be a dickhead to me first. And I think any of the clips where it's just like me, you know, talking to someone in a disrespectful manner, they always cut out the previous part of the interaction where they would just come up and start acting crazy. Like, I'm not.

[Adam Friedland]

I imagine so.

[Clavicular]

Yeah. Like, it's not like I'm going up to people and being like, oh, you're fucking subhuman.

[Adam Friedland]

I saw a clip where a girl was like trying to flirt with you. She's like, why don't you come say Hi. You're like cuz your cheeks look like or something. No, you said her, her man mandicular was crappy or something. Come on, be nice to girls, dude.

[Clavicular]

At least I am. I would say you should be nice to girls. I would say I'm. I've.

[Adam Friedland]

They're girls, dude.

[Clavicular]

There's a lot of clips of this, but pretty much every single chick I've met in person was like, wow, you're actually a lot nicer.

[Adam Friedland]

I think as a thesis, the concept that life is, is exponentially better for people that are good looking is the most obvious thing in the world. And you're just articulating that.

[Clavicular]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And I don't like. To me that just makes sense. Right, right. And that's been our bit, like what's benefited us in life. Like that's why we've just. Everyone's like, you know, like it's fine. Like it's annoying sometimes. Right. Like when, you know, just girls are like this every time I, you know, publicly masturbate. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. But, but like, but beyond that, what I'm saying is, is that like, I guess when I was younger, getting obsessed with something was something that losers did. Like cool people and hot people could just be normal. Right. And that's the fascinating thing about this is like it was never a cool thing to be obsessed with anything. And I think that that's what I'm trying to grapple with. You know what I mean?

[Clavicular]

Yeah. I would not really say that looks maxing is cool. I would say that it's something only.

[Adam Friedland]

But you're the coolest guy. You're the biggest streamer.

[Clavicular]

Well, I mean, it's more just that there's a lot more sides of the Internet now and there's a lot like people are just looking for what's new, what's fresh.

[Adam Friedland]

Have you enjoyed this?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

No, dude, I think it's fascinating and I really hope that I'm not condescending.

[Clavicular]

No, no, no, I don't, I don't get any malicious vibe at all. You know, I would say, dude, I'm not going to lie, I already kind of forgot.

[Adam Friedland]

It's fine. Don't worry. That happens to me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's thrilling to be around me and stuff, right?

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm awesome, right?

[Clavicular]

Absolutely.

[Adam Friedland]

I feel the same way.

[Clavicular]

Thanks for having me on. Thank you.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, I feel the same way. But I mean also like, can it. You're braided. Right For.

[Clavicular]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You could call me by my. My real name, too. Okay? Yeah. Muhammad.

[Clavicular]

Muhammad, my guy.

[Adam Friedland]

I thought it was awesome. You enjoyed it, Guys. Sam. Sa.