DANNY BROWN Talks Diddy, BBWs, 50 Cent

Summary

The Adam Friedland Show

Episode: DANNY BROWN Talks Diddy, BBWs, 50 Cent
Date: January 2, 2026
Guest: Danny Brown

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Episode Overview

This loose, wildly candid episode features rapper Danny Brown in conversation with Adam Friedland. The two bounce between memories of Detroit and coming up in rap, wild tales of relationships, and sharp commentary on hip-hop culture, media rumors, and the experience of being famous and growing older. They blend crude humor and earnest confessions in a way only the Adam Friedland Show manages, with Danny bringing an unabashedly honest voice to topics from industry near-misses to personal vices and social perceptions.

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Major Discussion Points

1. Danny’s Early Hustle, Being Broke & BBW Stories

• Danny reflects on his 20s, hustling for survival and sex, often in exchange for food or a place to stay.
• Takes on BBWs ("big bitches") and his past sexual exploits for "a hot plate and a couch".
• Quote:
  • "I remember one time I hit a bitch so big and we were sleeping in the bed together. Like, her roommate had came in the room. She didn’t even know I was in the room. ... That shit was crazy. That’s what I'm like, yeah, this gotta stop." (00:06, reprised at 21:43)

2. Rap Career, Industry Near-Misses, & Detroit’s Music Scene

• Talks almost signing to G-Unit—50 Cent didn’t like his skinny jeans; wanted him to wear "big ass pants with gold $100 bills on the back" (14:07).
• Formative influences: LL Cool J, Nas, Wu-Tang, Snoop & Death Row, Dizzee Rascal.
• Describes Detroit’s hip-hop—open-mic era, not the 8 Mile battle world, but still rough and highly self-aware.
• Quote:
  • "[50 Cent] didn’t like that I wore skinny jeans. ... He gave me some clothes one time ... some big ass pants with like some gold hundred dollar bills on the back pocket." (14:10)

3. Culture & Identity in Music

• Discusses regional identity’s role in hip-hop but notes how the internet blurs boundaries: "Everybody make the same sounds now." (46:33)
• Praises music as "ghetto news," a way of reporting from your world.
• On the lasting impact of records: Marvin Gaye’s "What's Going On" or how Future’s lyrics capture modern alienation.

4. Legacy, Craft, and Evolution as an Artist

• Danny is driven by legacy, not just hits:
  • "Music is a never-ending quest to get better… Maybe 30 years after I'm dead, some kid is sampling my records and making hit songs out of them or whatever the fuck. So right now I'm just making music for my legacy now." (43:20)
• On growth: can look back at early records and see how much he's grown (43:44).
• New album influences: hyperpop, breakcore, collabs with underscores, Jane Remover, Quadeca, and Polish rapper Ty Yukrenka (38:53).
• Cussing and language in music: shifting away from cursing a lot in lyrics—not on purpose, just where the writing’s going now. (59:25)

5. Fame, Sobriety, & Community

• Reflects on being in Austin’s "hill country" among older, white neighbors; feeling simultaneously out of place and accepted ("the only black guy," green hair, but "they like it").
• On getting sober and making amends with people he was mean to while intoxicated (64:02).
• On the difference between music communities and comedy—rap’s more communal, but as he’s grown older, friendships become rarer.

6. Absurd Internet Rumors & Diddy Discourse

• Extensive riffing on recent Diddy rumors, including wild internet allegations about celebrity sex parties ("Carl Winslow" from Family Matters):
  • "We thought it was like huge orgies... but nah, this nigga was just jerking off at hijab, squirting oil on niggas." (67:30)
• Sympathizes with random targets of gossip:
  • "Imagine Carl Winslow... just chilling at the crib, ... everybody talking about Diddy fucked him. ... That kinda shit make motherfuckers jump off bridges..." (68:45)
• Reluctance to be online because of how quickly and baselessly stories spread (69:52).

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Memorable & Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• "If you came here, you'd be a ... you’d be a tall gentleman. You're probably like five eleven, six foot six." (08:31)
• "When Em first came around, it wasn’t really too many white rappers. So it was like he had to really go extra, extra..." (11:33)
• "Money." (Danny on how short men date beautiful women) (09:03)
• "Chief Keef. ... That’s why the hooks are so good, I think. He said that’s why the hooks are so good." (29:50)
• Adam: "Future is kind of like blues music for toxic niggas that owe child support." Danny: "It's true." (45:27)
• On growing up in Detroit: "Like, you in the eighth grade, you just literally just humping a bitch on the ground... you wonder how teenage pregnancy was running rampant..." (52:32)
• On public shame: "I just remember ... the way he was looking at me, like... he was like, no, no, no." (27:02)
• On sobriety: "Once you get sober, you gotta do that thing… make amends." (64:02)
• On local life: "I'm definitely like the youngest. ... You're living with 60-year-old hill people? ... They like it. ... Keep Austin weird." (62:18–36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:06–00:30: Danny’s BBW/Couch-surfing stories
• 07:44–10:15: Early career: G-Unit & Detroit rap
• 11:25–12:10: Relationship with Eminem, 8 Mile scene
• 14:07–15:09: 50 Cent's gift of "big ass pants"; rap industry fitting in
• 16:00–16:52: Breakout moment at Fader Fort
• 17:54–18:19: Early influences, UK rap, Dizzee Rascal
• 22:53–26:43: More BBW tales, couch-surfing, and humility
• 30:18–32:12: Growing up in Detroit, family, Sega/NES
• 38:43–39:20: New album: influences, collaborators, breakcore
• 43:20: On making music for legacy
• 46:08–47:01: Rap’s shift—regional stories to global sameness
• 67:19–70:11: Diddy trial rumors, Carl Winslow, harmful internet gossip
• 64:02: Amends after sobriety
• 62:18–63:10: Life in hill country, guns, being "the only black guy"

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Funny & Unfiltered Moments

• Danny admits to using party chat lines in his 20s: “Show up, $300, like all right… I used to have a pep talk with myself on the way over.” (21:21)
• Adam & Danny try to recall the Backstreet Boys’ “hard for me”—realizing it’s literally about boners at bar mitzvahs and dances. (49:02–50:49)
• Sex stories in fast food freezers, “caught the bus over to that bitch,” shame of walking home after, and Detroit’s party lines and phone dating culture.
• Adam: "If you’re playing me, keep that on the low" – calling it the "cuck anthem".
• Danny on growing older and maturing: "I meditate 30 minutes a day now." (57:41)

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Reflections on Growth and Cynicism

• On fame: Austin can be more communal and grounding than NY/LA hustle.
• On women and friendships: Expresses regret at not valuing platonic relationships with women earlier.
• Adam, summary of youthful sexual exploits: "This is the misogyny episode. I love it. I'm having such a good time." (57:31)
• Danny on making amends and being less mean, especially after getting sober.

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Hip-Hop, Legacy, and Originality

• Talks about the changing nature of storytelling in hip hop, from regional “ghetto news” to more generic, internet-driven style.
• Nas’ Ilmatic as the pinnacle of place-based rap.
• The importance of making something that lasts, referencing Marvin Gaye, David Bowie, and Prince as standards for timeless impact.

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Final Thoughts

Danny Brown’s episode is a raw, unguarded, and often hilarious tour through the realities of fame, the awkwardness of male youth, and the weirdness of online gossip and modern hip-hop. With candor and wit, Danny weaves stories of struggle, wild escapades, self-reflection, and ultimately, growth.

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Notable Closing Quote:
"I feel like music is … a never-ending quest to get better. And now … maybe 30 years after I’m dead, some kid is sampling my records and making hit songs out of them … I’m just making music for my legacy now." —Danny Brown (43:20)

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[Host]

What's the fattest? You would go with a girl?

[Danny Brown]

I done hit some big.

[Host]

What's the biggest?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, my 20s, my entire 20s. I was broke and just living couch to couch kind of situation. So. Yeah, for a hot plate and a couch. I remember one time I hit a so big and we was sleeping in the bed together and like her roommate had came in the room. She didn't even know I was in the room. We was laying next to each other. She didn't even know a was in that.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, that shit was crazy. That's what I'm like, yeah, this gotta stop.

[Host]

All right, last episode of the year, guys. Happy New Year to all of you. I hope you guys are doing well. I hope you're with your families. I hope you're relaxing. It's been a real wild ride. And thank you for a great year. I mean, should I do the. What I said yes, sir. Am I gonna get flamed if I. If I play? All right. I just want to say my life has really changed this year. It was a sincere note. Okay. This episode, I'm like hungover. I don't really do much. He kind of carries me. But let's get that out of the way. Danny Brown is the guest. But I was practicing this in the studio and I thought from on a sincere note, like, it's been a. It's been a great year and I love the guys here. I love you guys, seriously. And I appreciate you guys for liking the show. It's really cool that we can. That people think it's good. It's really cool, actually. It's sick and like our lives have changed. I mean, this is like so cringe. But I'm gonna do it. I don't care. Guys, I. You know what I learned this year? That. That it's okay to talk about what's in your heart. So I just want to say. I just want to say. Oh, I hope oh, one more. All right. Tears gone cold I'm wondering why Go out of bed at all Morning rain closing my window oh all right. I'm not.

[Danny Brown]

I don't.

[Host]

All right. Tears look tears gone cold I'm wondering why I go out of bed and old morning rain clouds on my window and I can't see it all and even if I could it would all be great with your picture on the wall it reminds me that it's not so bad it's not so bad alright now look I gotta fuck. What are the chords? Oh, it's so easy. I didn't even. Okay, And I wanna thank you for giving me the best year. Year of my life. It kind of is. And I wanna thank you for giving me the best yet. Oh, one more. And I wanna thank you for giving me the best year of my life. Thanks, guys. I really appreciate it. Just to be with you. Oh, I want to get the chorus better. I'm sorry, guys. And I want to thank you, all of you. And the boys, too. Just to be with you.

[Danny Brown]

Oh, my.

[Host]

Is that good? No. No. What? Can I try one more? I'm sorry, guys. Thank you, guys. Seriously, Just to be with you. I hope Red Bar doesn't see that. Is it good? Is that. Was that embarrassing? The guest is Danny Brown. Enjoy this episode. I don't have it, guys. We're exhausted. How much did we do this year? It's been 11 months, guys. A shout out to Zach in the other room. He's doing coverage right now. Thank you to you guys. We got a lot of. A lot of big things planned for the new year. Really? Seriously, it's been a great year. Danny Brown, he kind of carries it. By the way, I don't do shit in this one. Thank you to RO for sponsoring this episode. I'm not a Rose Sparks user, but I'm excited to tell you what it's all about. Women can sense confidence in the bedroom. They think it's sexy. And I've heard that Rose Sparks is the easiest way to to not worry about your erection and how it can affect your swag in the bedroom. Rosemarks is a 2 in 1 prescription treatment for guys who. What's up, dude? Who want harder and fuck. I can't. Can you make the words larger? 2 in 1 treatment for guys who want to be better in the bedroom. It's a.

[Danny Brown]

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[Danny Brown]

What's up, Retta?

[Host]

You dress so cool, dude.

[Danny Brown]

Thank you.

[Host]

Is this like your New York look or. You look like that in Austin, Texas, too.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, it's hot out there.

[Host]

I know.

[Danny Brown]

So I gotta, you know, I gotta pick my poison.

[Host]

Do you like layering kind of like an autumn autumnal kind of fits? Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I plan for it. I like buying clothes. Preseason.

[Host]

Exactly.

[Danny Brown]

Like in the summer, I'm shopping for

[Host]

fall and you get. You put on like a slouchy Saturday morning and you go to the farmer's market with your. No, I don't know why I said it that way.

[Danny Brown]

I really. When I'm home, I'm really more like. Just because it's so hot. So whatever you can wear just to not be hot.

[Host]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Danny Brown]

They're too big.

[Host]

They're big over there in Texas. The people.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, they eat a lot. Have you seen the portions?

[Host]

Yeah, it's disgusting. But if you came here, you'd be a. You'd be a tall gentleman. You're probably like five eleven, six foot six.

[Danny Brown]

One, two, three, maybe. Oh, in New York, I mean, on my Wikipedia, they say I'm six' three. So let's go. Yeah.

[Host]

I'm just saying, you're like a New York 6, 8. Then. I'm just saying, you're like. It's a good feeling.

[Danny Brown]

Okay.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

Okay.

[Host]

Yeah. Danny DeVito is basically the normal, common New York. Yeah. You see a lot of them guys, like, dating, like, elevens, and you're like, how does that work?

[Danny Brown]

Money.

[Host]

I was at the Zo Ron Mom Donnie election party last night. I got. I'm hungover.

[Danny Brown]

Yes.

[Host]

I mean, it's pretty lame to.

[Danny Brown]

I'm not jealous of you. Some things happen.

[Host]

Some things. Some things happened last night. And I can't say because it's kind of a secret.

[Danny Brown]

Sounds like a great time.

[Host]

I'm just not talking to AOC again.

[Danny Brown]

All right.

[Host]

You know what you did? You know what you did. Do you feel like. Do you know that Zoran was a rapper?

[Danny Brown]

He was.

[Host]

He had. He was a hit. He was a rapper.

[Danny Brown]

What's his rap name?

[Host]

Do you feel like representation knowing that there's a Rapper, Mayor of New York.

[Danny Brown]

No, no, that has nothing. I mean, rapping.

[Host]

He's got smoke with 50 too. You know that?

[Danny Brown]

Really?

[Host]

Yeah. 50 is talking. He said that because he's gonna raise my taxes or something.

[Danny Brown]

See, I've been staying away from social media, so I don't know what's going on.

[Host]

Me too. I just learned all this in the last, what, 30 minutes before the interview?

[Danny Brown]

Okay.

[Host]

No, but, yeah, famously nearly signed by G Unit back in.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, Tony Yayo took a liking to my music, so he was helping me out.

[Host]

But there was something about your pants or something.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, they didn't like. I mean, 50 didn't like that I wore skinny jeans. Really? Yeah.

[Host]

He said, why are your pants so tight?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. That's so pretty of him.

[Host]

So you're on Team Zo Ron in this beef right now.

[Danny Brown]

I'm not on no team because we don't know in two years.

[Host]

Zorron is two of the finest rappers.

[Danny Brown]

I don't trust politicians, really. So in like two years, we don't know what we gotta see. We gotta see his work.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

You gotta show improve first. So. I can't.

[Host]

I think he's. I met him and I think he's just pretty. Like, he's just a millennial. He likes soccer.

[Danny Brown]

Cause I remember when Detroit had a real young mare, really, Kwame Kilpatrick, and.

[Host]

Oh, yeah, he caught some charges, right?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

What was the scandal with Kwame Kilpatrick?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, it was a lot, but I feel like it was like just misusing funds type of situation.

[Host]

If Michigan. Let's say Michigan, had a governor race, right? And for the Republicans, you had Kid Rock and Democrats, you had Eminem. Who do you think would win?

[Danny Brown]

Eminem.

[Host]

Eminem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would it be close, you think or.

[Danny Brown]

I don't. No.

[Host]

Yeah, I think I would go for Eminem, too.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. I think I'd vote for Em.

[Host]

Do you have a relationship with Marshall?

[Danny Brown]

I met him.

[Host]

Yeah. He really is so good at rapping. It's really like. But sometimes it's like, I. You're rapping too good.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, when Em first came around, it wasn't really too many white rappers, so it was like he had to really go extra, extra to really be, you know. And I feel like he was just a fan, so he cared more about the genre than, you know, the average rapper, I would say.

[Host]

Yeah. Do you think there'll be more opportunities for white people?

[Danny Brown]

It's a lot of opportunities for white rappers right now.

[Host]

I. Why am I Being. Were you part of the 8 mile thing? Was that a real thing?

[Danny Brown]

I wasn't. I'm not from 8 mile.

[Host]

But did you do. Did you go to the mom's spaghetti kind of battle kind of place?

[Danny Brown]

No, that was kind of like before my time. Yeah, that was like. Right. That was like the generation before me, so I would have loved to be a part of that world. When I came around, it was more like open mic. It was like open mic situations, but they were kind of like. It was kind of like dying out.

[Host]

Were people doing standup at the open mic?

[Danny Brown]

No, it was just rap.

[Host]

Just rap. It was just rap. That would be so funny.

[Danny Brown]

It used to be sick, though.

[Host]

Yeah. If someone was just, like, talking about Tinder in the middle of it and getting booed.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, you would get booed if you was trash.

[Host]

Did you ever go end to 8 mile mode where you're like, I live in a trailer. I never lived in lunch houses. No, but you say all the things embarrassing about yourself.

[Danny Brown]

Oh, I think I do all the time. I mean, I just think that's self awareness.

[Host]

You were inspired by B. Rabbit to do that. Was he kind of like a. I

[Danny Brown]

think m inspired a lot.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

But far as like that, I think. Yeah, I guess.

[Host]

So he never unked you as, like, a newer Detroit rapper?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I will say. I mean, at the time we met, I was still deep into, like, my alcoholism and still getting, you know, up and all that. So I'm sober, so you don't want to be around that, you know.

[Host]

Yeah, because.

[Danny Brown]

And I wasn't, you know, I was still having fun, so it wasn't. So I totally understand that.

[Host]

You drank a fifth vodka and. Would you dare me to drive? Did you ever say that to him? That would have been funny.

[Danny Brown]

Nah.

[Host]

You were on the verge of signing for G Unit.

[Danny Brown]

I wouldn't say on the verge. I mean, 50 started to. I mean, you know, I would make songs at Yale Crib and he'd play them for me. He eventually started to take a liking to me, you know, But I still. I just was.

[Host]

I was too old.

[Danny Brown]

I kind of feel like. So I was already stuck in my ways of what I wanted to be as an artist, and he wanted to mold me into something else.

[Host]

Was there ever a moment where you were gonna just, like, they wanted you to just fucking sell out?

[Danny Brown]

I wouldn't say sell out. It's just more what they thought would be more appealing to what the masses of hip hop or the average hip hop fan would like.

[Host]

Did they pitch you on like an outfit or like.

[Danny Brown]

No, I mean 58. He gave me some clothes one time.

[Host]

Like just wear this back of your pants.

[Danny Brown]

It was some big ass pants with like some gold hundred dollar bills on the back pocket.

[Host]

Why didn't you put on the pants?

[Danny Brown]

I did put on the damn pants. I wore them a little bit. Then I was getting no bitches, really. And I was like, hold up, let me get these skinny jeans back.

[Host]

Do you conceive of like the fact that like in hip hop today, like there was primarily just a coastal thing happening and it took a while for like, I guess first it was Atlanta, maybe a little Houston, maybe a little.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, but that's, that's just where like the bigger companies was at. So if you was somebody that was in the Midwest, if you wasn't traveling to New York or LA to get a record deal, you wasn't really doing them. But I still think it was like a lot of scenes still bubbling. Like Memphis been doing they thing for a real long time.

[Host]

Since the 90s.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Host]

Have you ever listened to those early like DJ Paul tapes?

[Danny Brown]

They're amazing.

[Host]

Yeah, Little Fly Lord, infamous.

[Danny Brown]

Oh, that shit. I like Coops the nigga, but the

[Host]

music just sounds like it's coming out of a shoebox or it sounds like it's coming out of hell, actually.

[Danny Brown]

I mean that's the, that's the vibe.

[Host]

It just sounds insane.

[Danny Brown]

That's the vibe.

[Host]

It's the best music I think ever.

[Danny Brown]

Like, I love that they took to it in like Asian countries now and it's like three six mafia style rap groups in like Tokyo and shit. Yeah, they make drifting videos to that shit.

[Host]

Your dad like was a house dj, Correct?

[Danny Brown]

He hates that I say that. He, he just DJed for fun, right? But like DJ house music, that was his style.

[Host]

Detroit was techno, right. Chicago's house. And like the cool thing is like it's bigger in Europe basically. Like those, those artists are bigger in Europe than they are in the States, basically.

[Danny Brown]

In Germany and Germany, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Why there?

[Danny Brown]

I think it's always just like Berlin. Berlin just always took to like, like you have been a trezor.

[Host]

I'm never gonna go, why, what's wrong with Berlin? That's fool me one situation. Oh, I'm not going back. When did you like, when's the first time you felt like you like popped like or.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, it was, it was a year I was playing at south by Southwest and you know, I was just doing the normal shows like, and the biggest show at the time was, like, Fader Fort and Rafael Sadiq couldn't make his flight, and so they needed to fill the spot. And, you know, I was just starting to get a name, and it was bubbling, so they had me to come fill his spot. And, you know, I did great at the show. I started to see, like, my social media started to go crazy. I was gaining followers. And then maybe like, a year later, I was on the COVID of the Fader. So that was, like, my moment.

[Host]

I felt like, yeah, it sounds like an old story, right? Like, there was a cancellation on Johnny Carson. And then I had a big. I had a great set. It's kind of like there's something like, oh, yeah. There's something sweet about it.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. Because, like, I was. It was just like, I had my moment, I was prepared, and I killed it. And so, yes. And then the next year, I was, like, headlining Vader for it.

[Host]

We had a great idea for a documentary. I know your manager's here. You want to pitch your manager on what our idea was.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, we're gonna go back to my motherland, which is the Philippines.

[Host]

We're gonna go to the Philippines and connect with the A Wakanda. Kind of like retracing the ancestors.

[Danny Brown]

I want to find out who speared my uncle.

[Host]

Someone speared him, like, Bill Goldberg style.

[Danny Brown]

Like, no talking about with an actual spear. No.

[Host]

Who did that?

[Danny Brown]

We gotta go find out. That's what the documentary about.

[Host]

Oh, so this is more of, like,

[Danny Brown]

a revenge murder mystery.

[Host]

This is a revenge true crime.

[Danny Brown]

Murder mystery. True crime.

[Host]

Just call Netflix right now. What are you doing?

[Danny Brown]

Niggas are still getting scared.

[Host]

He's on his phone right now. Who you texting? Netflix. He's bored.

[Danny Brown]

I heard Netflix don't pay nobody, though, so.

[Host]

What?

[Danny Brown]

Netflix ain't paying nobody, so.

[Host]

I know, dude. It's not true.

[Danny Brown]

Go to Tubi, man.

[Host]

Tubi's paying.

[Danny Brown]

I think so, yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. Who, like, who did you look at as, like, your kind of influences? Like what? Like, what was the thing that kind of inspired you to get to get started making music?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I knew I wanted to rap the very first time I heard LL Cool J. I can say my favorite rapper was NASA growing up.

[Host]

Illmatic.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. And then, you know, Wu Tang. And then, you know, of course, like, I had a West coast face. Snoop and Death Row and all that. But my. I think my biggest influence is a UK rapper, Dizzy Rascal.

[Host]

He's the best.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, he's a goat.

[Host]

He's the best.

[Danny Brown]

He's a goat.

[Host]

Have you met him before?

[Danny Brown]

Yes.

[Host]

Is he cool?

[Danny Brown]

A few times, yeah.

[Host]

He's like, dude, how classy is that?

[Danny Brown]

Yes.

[Host]

Check it out, dude.

[Danny Brown]

It's like Don Dre living the life.

[Host]

Yeah, I'm hungover. I'm Don Draper, dude, I can't believe I'm hungover from a politics party. I gotta tell you, I would have

[Danny Brown]

to be drunk to go to that.

[Host]

There was, of course, you had a famous incident once on stage. Pretty cool.

[Danny Brown]

I wouldn't say so now that I look back on it.

[Host]

I mean, you were young. You were probably.

[Danny Brown]

I was in my 30s.

[Host]

You were in your 30s?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. Too old to be doing that kind of.

[Host]

Oh, yeah. Well, how old were you?

[Danny Brown]

In my 30s.

[Host]

How old in your 30s?

[Danny Brown]

I can't remember. I was on a lot of Molly.

[Host]

You could only run for president at 35, so that's pretty.

[Danny Brown]

No, I think I was probably before 35.

[Host]

Okay, so you're 33.

[Danny Brown]

Come on, you gotta go maybe about 33.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, 33. So you can't even be the president yet. Yeah, you can get your dick sucked.

[Danny Brown]

30s are still young, though.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in retrospect, it was like. I mean, come. But it's not like the worst thing in the world.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I would like. I mean.

[Host]

Yes, it's a little.

[Danny Brown]

I would like to forget it.

[Host]

Yeah, I don't want to bring it up. It's probably annoying because you get like, asked about it.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, it's so long ago. That was like 20 years ago.

[Host]

Yeah. And you weren't married to her either.

[Danny Brown]

No.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

I think it was a CIA psyop. Really?

[Host]

CIA sector. Jake on stage.

[Danny Brown]

I think. I think they was put. I think she was planted.

[Host]

That's so them. That is so CIA. That is so CIA. I should have known. That is exactly the kind of thing they would do. They would do that. Why doesn't the CIA stand it?

[Danny Brown]

Is a conspiracy theory behind that?

[Host]

Do you have baby boys? Baby bruhs? Are there younger rappers that you look out for?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, there's a lot of younger artists that I connect with, but I wouldn't say look out for her. I mean, if they, you know, when ask me some advice, I'm always here to talk, but I can't say I'm that hands on with anybody like that.

[Host]

Is it like a lone wolf kind of world? Like, it's like, kind of like, ain't

[Danny Brown]

comedy like that, too?

[Host]

I'm the only one that's comedy.

[Danny Brown]

Definitely some lone wolf backstab. But with Rap music, it's a little more communal.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. Like you can help each other lose

[Host]

your best friend in rap.

[Danny Brown]

Best friend in rap. I would say I have best friends because you know how that is. And I'm old. When you getting. I mean, I don't know. I'm not like hanging out, you know,

[Host]

as a man, you should be friends, Right?

[Danny Brown]

I really like hanging out with Quadeca. That's my homie. We went to go see Weapons. It was a great time.

[Host]

Was it a good movie?

[Danny Brown]

Hell, yeah. I like that.

[Host]

Yeah, that's nice. You go to a movie with your friend from work?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, you know, he was in Austin. He's like, you wanna go see Weapons? I'm like, yeah, I feel good. I wanna go on a date.

[Host]

What's the fattest? You go with a girl?

[Danny Brown]

I don't hit some big bitches.

[Host]

What's the biggest?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, my 20s, my entire 20s. I was broke and just living couch to couch kind of situation. So. Yeah, for a hot plate and a couch.

[Host]

Oh, good for. Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

I used to be on them phone chat lines. And then the fat. They used to be sounding good too. Really? You'd be like, damn, this boy should notice me. Show up £300, like, all right. I just always used to have a pep. I used to have a pep talk with my way. While I was on the way over there and be like, man, it don't matter, man. Whatever it is, I'm hitting it, man. Yeah, you just gotta be strong.

[Host]

I only did it one time.

[Danny Brown]

You know what I'm saying? You just gotta be strong. Get over there. Like, yeah, If I knew, see, you'd be mentally prepared. I remember one time I hit a bitch so big and we were sleeping in the bed together. Yeah. And like, her roommate had came in the room. She didn't even know I was in the room. We was laying next to each other. She didn't even know a nigga was in that bed. Yeah, that shit was crazy. That's what I was like, yeah, this shit gotta stop. I'm fucking so big, I gotta hide behind them.

[Host]

You didn't know that it was a two man situation.

[Danny Brown]

I was hungry that night. She said she was buying pizza.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

She had weed. I'm like, man, I'm tired of sleeping that grandma crib. Let me just get a night away. And then it'll make you start to appreciate the grandma crib. Cause you be like, damn, that was hard work. I can't do that every night. That was some shit.

[Host]

It was some heavy lifting.

[Danny Brown]

I mean. Yes.

[Host]

You know, I only did it one time, and it would feel like she. Every time I've been with a lady, I've been like, she's an idiot. What is she doing?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

What a fool. Like, imagine your father. And then. But with the. The bigger one, she was like. She was like, thank you. She appreciated me. She made me feel beautiful. Yeah. She made me feel beautiful.

[Danny Brown]

I have purpose, man.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

And if it does feel like you've kind of.

[Danny Brown]

So I don't got no. Like, I don't got no type.

[Host]

Yeah. No type whatsoever. Yeah. It's kind of gay to have a type.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. I like. I'm all about personality.

[Host]

Come on. But you wouldn't be with some sort of.

[Danny Brown]

If I hate you, I can't be around you.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

But if you're somebody that's, like, with

[Host]

an eye hanging out of the socket, you wouldn't do that. If it's a great guy. Girl. I mean, I'm hungover.

[Danny Brown]

I'm trying to think about it. Like,

[Host]

imagine a small hand. But she's, like, funny as fuck now

[Danny Brown]

for basically like Toxic Avengers.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah. Acid burn victim.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Host]

And it's no shade. I mean, we could be friends.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

Can you be friends with a girl?

[Danny Brown]

I don't think so.

[Host]

I don't think so either. They always fall.

[Danny Brown]

I try. I try.

[Host]

They always fall in love with us. And they say things like, you're not there for me. And I'm like, you're not my girlfriend. You're not my girlfriend.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, it's possible, but it's possible. I just. I think I just wasn't at the right place in my life to be friends with women when I were. Because I kind of now miss those kind of relationships.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

Because you kind of talk to them about different. That you tell one of your homemade. Man, shut your gay ass up. Right.

[Host]

You could be sensitive with them.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. Sometimes you need the outside perspective. You need to talk to a. About a bitch.

[Host]

I know. You could, like, say a little, like, gay thing once, and then it's kind of. She'll. You could be like, I know.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. And she'll like. They like it.

[Danny Brown]

You can be yourself.

[Host]

You can be yourself. You can watch me. You watch reality TV.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

You'd be like, let's see how 90 Day Fiance. See how real these housewives are?

[Danny Brown]

That's my thing. 90 Day Fiance.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Do you find that you end up hating the American every time. I think I do.

[Danny Brown]

Every time no, because.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

I'll be rooting for the scammers. Yeah, I kind of the African niggas with the fat white. I'd be like, that was the best one. That was the best one.

[Host]

The Nigeria guy. The Nigeria guy. And she went to Nigeria and gave

[Danny Brown]

all that Trump stuff. She had cornrows and all type of shit.

[Host]

So disgusting. That woman, He's a good man. She's like. And then I saw he had 2,000 other women on his social media. And then she felt betrayed.

[Danny Brown]

That's some shit right there.

[Host]

Yeah. And he's wearing the trumpet. He's like, He's a great businessman. Yeah,

[Danny Brown]

he had moved. He moved with her, didn't he? She tried to like, make him like he was just babysitting kids and shit.

[Host]

Oh, she was one of those you can't see the roommate on the other side kind of ladies.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, no, she was. She. What I'm talking about was crazy Mountain.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

It was a mountain.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. That was like three or four of them. I'm talking about like the 600 pound type shit. Really? Like, you see. Yes.

[Host]

I'm telling you, like, they can't leave the house. So how did.

[Danny Brown]

She left the house, But I'm telling you it was painful. I know she used to be in pain.

[Host]

How did you know that? She was offering the pizza. But she's like, you have to exchange some services.

[Danny Brown]

That's how she wooed me.

[Host]

So you were out. Where did you see her? Do you remember. Do you remember the new series of things? No.

[Danny Brown]

This was back in. This was in the early 2000s. This is the day where you can call one of them party lines up on the phone and it'd be like. It'd just be. You could just. You be listening to Profile and be like, I'm at the crib right now and it's hot and juicy. Really don't pull up. And then you gotta press the number. You gotta press the number. Leave her a message. And then she immediately leave her a message. Like, just hit my number. Then y' all will call or whatever. And then you link up. Really?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

She's like, I was just about to order a pizza. I got some weed, I just need some dick. I should have knew she was big when she said that, though. I'm like, all right, this sound like a good night?

[Host]

That sounds great. Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I'm not saying it was a bad time. You had a great time. I mean, I was the way I felt about myself. The next day when I got back to My grandma.

[Host]

That's self hatred. That's self hatred. You didn't hate her.

[Danny Brown]

I was really ashamed.

[Host]

She's a great person.

[Danny Brown]

I was ashamed. And I only was ashamed because then in the morning, I was like, damn, I need to get some cigarettes. She's like, ah, you can walk to the gas station. I remember we walked to the gas station together.

[Host]

Took forever.

[Danny Brown]

And didn't know I was a nigga. He was pumping his gas and just the way he was looking at me, like, I just knew in my heart that's something where he was like, no, no, no.

[Host]

It's like he called the party and

[Danny Brown]

I tried to just be proud, look him in the eyes, like, yeah, I'm with the big, but I ain't want to go through that no more. That's all it was.

[Host]

What about it, sir?

[Danny Brown]

Public perception is everything, man. I wasn't that mature in life, man.

[Host]

Did you tell her, what did you say to your grandma when she came back?

[Danny Brown]

It just was a ghosting. I mean, my grandma, she wanted me out the house for the night. Like, damn.

[Host]

So she was like. Your grandma was like, just go find one of these.

[Danny Brown]

No, she didn't care. I'm just saying, like, I'm, you know, when you.

[Host]

She didn't say, how was last night?

[Danny Brown]

No, my grandma, she was happy I was gone somewhere.

[Host]

She wasn't, like, telling me all about it. She's like, I hope.

[Danny Brown]

I hope he move in with the bitch.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

Is she still with us, your grandmother?

[Danny Brown]

Hell yeah.

[Host]

She kicking the shirt. How old is she now?

[Danny Brown]

I don't know. She old.

[Host]

Does she know that you have money now? I mean, or does she still treat you like you're, like, on the couch?

[Danny Brown]

My grandma was a boss man. My grandma owned like five houses. Me, my money, she probably like, he still ain't got money like that. My grandma, that caught her.

[Host]

My grandma's a like, grandma, too.

[Danny Brown]

It couldn't even be real money to her side.

[Host]

My grandma, I will, like, you doing

[Danny Brown]

all right for yourself.

[Host]

I, like, will not see her for a year. And then I'll see her and she'll be like, you have problems. I'll be like, you lady.

[Danny Brown]

Mine is my grandma. My grandma cuss a lot.

[Host]

Mine is.

[Danny Brown]

My Filipino grandma is pretty cool, but she. She's very strict.

[Host]

Is she good at karaoke or no?

[Danny Brown]

No, my grandma. I mean, my grandma been here since the 60s.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, she goes back every blue moon. No, I don't think my grandma, she good at sewing.

[Host]

I don't know if that's a Filipino thing.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, that's her job. That's what she always did.

[Host]

They're unreal.

[Danny Brown]

They're seamstress. I thought that was always like. That was like more of like a Japan.

[Host]

No, no. Karaoke is a Japanese word. But the Filipinos really gave it a new meaning.

[Danny Brown]

I know they love it over there in, like, the uk, too.

[Host]

Yeah, but they don't do a Filipino style like that.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I never was a karaoke guy, to be honest. I feel like I'm working for free.

[Host]

Cause you make your own songs.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, I'm working for free at that point.

[Host]

For me, I feel like it was fun.

[Danny Brown]

I've been one time and I saw Chief Keef.

[Host]

You went with Chief Keef?

[Danny Brown]

No, that's the song I performed. Was Chief Keef. Oh, no, I did Kevin. You did Kevin. It's going down.

[Host]

I'm yelling.

[Danny Brown]

Tim Burton. That's so good.

[Host]

Actually. Put that on. Put that on.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, that's a great karaoke song.

[Host]

Did you ever meet Chief Keith? Yeah, he's the best, right?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, he's amazing.

[Host]

He's amazing. He's like a normal guy now, too. Have you seen.

[Danny Brown]

That's great.

[Host]

Because he was just. He was on drugs when he left.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, he left la. I mean, he left Chicago, you know. Yeah, he spent his whole twenties in

[Host]

LA now, but everyone thought that he was, like, potentially mentally retarded.

[Danny Brown]

But, like, I mean, he got Asperger's, don't he?

[Host]

Yeah, probably. But that. That's why the hooks are so good. I think he said that's why the hooks are so good. But, like. But then I saw an interview with him like a couple months ago. He's like, yeah, just need to get out of Chicago. Pretty much. Pretty much happy here in LA. Just like a normal guy.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, he, like 39. I think he like them.

[Host]

He's like 30.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. So I'm saying he spent his whole 20s in LA. I feel like that was a pivotal time in his life. So, yeah, definitely changed him. He definitely a different person than what he would have did if he grew up in Chicago. In Chicago?

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah. Was Detroit as crazy as Chicago when you were growing up or. No?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I think Chicago just going through a real hard time right now. I feel like every city has those phases of just spikes of crime type. But I think Detroit has definitely chilled out from when I was a kid.

[Host]

What was it like growing up? Because it was like post like Autoboom.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, it was. I just remember all that kind of like, going down, you know, as time progressed. Cause my grandma worked for Chrysler, you know, so. And I just. But she got hurt on a job, so she had retired real early.

[Host]

She did, yeah. And your parents, were they in the auto industry or.

[Danny Brown]

No, no, no, no. My mom had me at 18. My dad had me at 16. They had four kids by the time he was 21.

[Host]

Your dad's 16, your mom's 18. Mm, that's pretty cool.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

Did you respect him for that?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, my dad was like. I mean, they were young.

[Host]

Well, he pulled.

[Danny Brown]

It was like kids growing kids. I never thought about that.

[Host]

Did your dad hurt his hand?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. How you know about that?

[Host]

From all the high fives?

[Danny Brown]

Oh, no, no. He did lose a finger, though.

[Host]

Oh, never mind. From all the high fives?

[Danny Brown]

No, he worked somewhere.

[Host]

Oh, in a factory.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. Some type of.

[Host]

Oh, you're closer with your mother or your father?

[Danny Brown]

I would say it's equal.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

It's equal. I grew up. I mean, they were together all the way till I was about 18. So my pops is in and out the house.

[Host]

What music do they show you?

[Danny Brown]

Growing up, my dad, he was a super hip hop fan.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

So, like, he was the first person ever. He bought me Wu Tang. First cd. I didn't even know what Wu Tang was, really. Yeah.

[Host]

You're like a cool dad.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, definitely. Like, even, like, just with. Even, like with clothes and sh. Like, my dad would get the Jordans the first day they came out. Whatever new console, video game console was coming out, we'd get it the first day, but then he'll play it all the goddamn time. So then you had to wait three days before you can even try it out.

[Host]

My dad got it. My dad did that with my nes. He got addicted.

[Danny Brown]

My dad was addicted to Madden, man.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah. But I was addicted to Super Mario. I was like, can I play? He invented a new hand hold.

[Danny Brown]

Like, he's like this.

[Host]

What are you, 14 year old Asian kid? What are you doing? He's like. He was like up late, like. Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

That kind of shit.

[Host]

That kind of stuff. It's really annoying when our dads are kind of trying to do kids stuff like that.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, it was a gift and a curse because I was happy to have all the games and shit.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

You know, and then, you know, like I said, my pops was in and out, so sometimes he might be gone for like three, four days, but then

[Host]

he come back with the coolest gift ever.

[Danny Brown]

Mm.

[Host]

Oh, my God, that's so awesome.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, I know, right?

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah. Did he have a cool car? Yeah, my dad, he was one of those dads who rolls up in a cool car and he's like, I'll see you around the way.

[Danny Brown]

I think, yeah. The coolest car my dad had, he had the. Remember the Eddie Bauer Explorer trucks? When they first dropped, we had that.

[Host]

We had that.

[Danny Brown]

He would be wearing Eddie Bauer and driving in the Eddie Bauer Explorer. Didn't you know the green one? Yeah. The real you.

[Host]

Remember the tires exploded. The Firestone tires.

[Danny Brown]

Did they?

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like the most popular car in America. Then there was like a huge recall because the, the tires, the tires were exploding on the Ford Explorer.

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[Host]

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[Host]

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[Danny Brown]

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[Host]

You never, you never like left like your hometown? Like most. Like I've been.

[Danny Brown]

I've been gone for four years now,

[Host]

but like, kind of like most, most people like go to New York or la.

[Danny Brown]

I feel like I've had my stints, but I just always felt like I couldn't handle myself. I wasn't disciplined enough to be in LA or New York.

[Host]

You were like with Paris Hilton kind of situation?

[Danny Brown]

No, I just knew that I partied too hard.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

In Detroit, you know, you get them winners. You can't do shit, stay in the house. And I work on music really, you know, so I think it was great that I didn't try to leave Detroit too soon because I just wouldn't know how to handle it.

[Host]

Do you have like a production partnership that you've maintained or is it. Do you kind of just.

[Danny Brown]

I think, yeah. I keep a relationship with everybody that I work with in some sense, but I feel like every album I'm always trying to find A new. New sound or something to influence me. So it's always good to, like, work with newer people coming up and stuff.

[Host]

I have some. I have some stuff I can show you.

[Danny Brown]

Okay. Yeah.

[Host]

Let's talk about the new album. Like, what was, like, what was the new thought? You say that you try out different things each time. What was, like, the thought process this time around?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I was just really influenced by, like, what was going on in, like, the hyper pop break core scene. So I wanted to reach out and work with a lot of those artists

[Host]

who produced on it.

[Danny Brown]

I got underscores, Jane Remover, Quadeca. Holly did a lot, you know.

[Host]

Did you get British folks? That sounds British style to me.

[Danny Brown]

I have a Polish rapper on there, Ty Yukrenka.

[Host]

Really? You know, the Polish, they get a rough rap, you know, I mean.

[Danny Brown]

Cause she. That's what I'm saying. Hers, when she rap, it almost sounds.

[Host]

Oh, it's a girl. Polish.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. It almost sounds Asian, almost.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, the way she. She's sick, man. Tire's sick.

[Host]

When you're saying you're getting interested in, like. Like break core. You called it.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

What? Just describe what that.

[Danny Brown]

Break core. I mean, digicore, breakcore. Is this more like.

[Host]

Like, is it like, dance? That's what it sounds like to me.

[Danny Brown]

I would say it's kind of like a cousin of, like, drum and bass and jungle.

[Host]

So it sounds British, right?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It definitely influenced. Definitely a lot of samples from that.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah. It's music that, like, on a rainy day, you drive like a VW Golf, like a gti.

[Danny Brown]

I just walk in the rain.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

That's beautiful.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, you just walk in the rain.

[Host]

Do you conceive of, like, when you finish the song? Have you ever. Do you ever conceive of, like, I've written the. That's a perfect song or do you like.

[Danny Brown]

I never say perfect song. Cause I always want to get better. I feel like with music, it's never. You never. You know, like, even Bowie did it till he was gone, you know, so it's like you get. And it's one of the Ellis albums he made.

[Host]

Is he your goat, Black Star? Yeah, it's so good.

[Danny Brown]

That's what I'm saying.

[Host]

So, like, I could only listen to

[Danny Brown]

it twice because I ain't about to go back. I'm not running Black Star back.

[Host]

He's your number one. He's one of your number ones.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, definitely a huge inspiration, but I will say I wasn't around for that. Time to where I'd seen the impact. But just reading, you know, studying, doing the history, I definitely could get some inspiration from there. I would say Prince too. Kind of like that.

[Host]

Yeah. Midwest. Mm. Did you ever meet him?

[Danny Brown]

No, I wish.

[Host]

I wish too. Yeah. Yeah. He would be so mean to me.

[Danny Brown]

That same thing. I was literally thinking in my head, like, he probably imagine how mean he would be.

[Host]

I'd be like, I mean.

[Danny Brown]

But I wouldn't have it no other way.

[Host]

The artist. I'm so excited.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I wouldn't be disappointed by that. That's what I would say. You know how they, like, never meet your idols type shit. I would just, like, expect that he

[Host]

was mean to his friends.

[Danny Brown]

If he was nice to me, I'd be like, oh, shit.

[Host]

He hated Michael, and Michael just was completely unfazed by it. That rivalry was the funniest rivalry in the world.

[Danny Brown]

I can't pick between them two.

[Host]

I was Michael growing up.

[Danny Brown]

Of course I was too. But once I got old enough, I realized the genius of Prince.

[Host]

When Michael did the dick grab thing when I was a little kid, I would see it on TV and I started doing it, and then I would get in so much trouble.

[Danny Brown]

Mike fucked me up, man. I got my ass whooped with Mike.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

It was not cool to like Mike.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, that bad video came out, and you remember he was in the subway being bad and shit.

[Host]

And you know, and those are real bad guys in the video. He got real bad bullies.

[Danny Brown]

I know. I was getting bullied on the playground

[Host]

and I thought you thought your butt is mine. You were trying to do your butt is mine.

[Danny Brown]

No, I just thought, do what Michael do and get up out of this. You know what I'm saying? So I hit the. Oh. And got punched right in the mouth.

[Host]

You thought that was real fighting?

[Danny Brown]

I was dilute. Music ran my life. You know, it was always.

[Host]

You thought that was how a person fights.

[Danny Brown]

I didn't know. But yeah, I did try to break out the bad routine before the scrap and got my.

[Host]

Imagine if it worked.

[Danny Brown]

So embarrassing. I'm glad we moved, dude, you have to move schools.

[Host]

You have to move schools after that.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, I think. But, yeah, I got my ass whooped.

[Host]

I mean, that is something I didn't

[Danny Brown]

even realize you can punch people in the mouth to then, like, damn, this nigga just. I just saw that shit on tv

[Host]

was like second grade and it sounded the same.

[Danny Brown]

No, this was kindergarten.

[Host]

Kindergarten?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

Oh, that follows you to 12th grade.

[Danny Brown]

Oh, shit.

[Host]

Oh, yeah, you got. Cause it had to have been so

[Danny Brown]

far or no, maybe it was first grade.

[Host]

It would have to be like this.

[Danny Brown]

And maybe it was first. Cause I remember. Yeah. Cause we moved mid. We moved mid semester type shit. So it was first grade.

[Host]

You had the nicest parents in the world.

[Danny Brown]

No, they were already planning to move.

[Host]

Getting out of Dodge when you embarrassed,

[Danny Brown]

they were already planning the move. It just lined up, right. But yeah, I got punched in the face.

[Host]

Did you have to learn how to fight?

[Danny Brown]

I don't think I ever did.

[Host]

I don't think I ever did.

[Danny Brown]

I just realized just punch him in the mouth first.

[Host]

You have to go first. Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

That's all. Even if you get your ass whooped after, everybody gonna remember you fouled on him first. So yeah, I just took that motto. Anytime I felt threatened, I would just punch a nigga in the mouth.

[Host]

Did it like sometimes it didn't work hard enough.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I don't think I never knocked nobody out. So.

[Host]

Yeah, I guess, like moving forward, what are some goals that keep you going as an artist?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I feel like music is something, like I said, you can never. It's a never ending quest to get better at it. And now I understand more. So like it's a legacy thing. Like maybe fucking 30 years after I'm dead, some kid is sampling my records and making hit songs out of them or whatever the fuck. So right now I'm just making music for my legacy now.

[Host]

Do you see some early records and you think like, oh, that like I'm better now?

[Danny Brown]

Hell yeah. Yeah, Hell yeah.

[Host]

Or you like that guy's a better.

[Danny Brown]

But it was a different way of going about making songs at that time.

[Host]

Yeah. How did Nas do that at 17 then? It's so weird.

[Danny Brown]

Just born with it, man. But then, you know, I feel like him having a jazz musician father.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

And you know, like your parents, if you haven't any record collections in the house and they really into music, like that shit definitely plays a huge part. But yeah, I like that, like doing the history of music, you know, like going back and like, just really like figuring out records that stand the test of time. And maybe one day I'll have a record like that where people are still talking about like 30 years later.

[Host]

So instead of top five rappers, what is your five of that?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I have my. I mean, I feel like five of my favorite rapper records may not stood the test of time versus records that I know stood the test of time.

[Host]

Yeah. You know, so what would some of those be?

[Danny Brown]

Records that I think stand in Touch, like, even. Shit. Just look at something like Marvin Gaye, what's going on? Shit, look what the fuck going on right now. You get what I'm saying? Records like that.

[Host]

Sometimes when I listen to Future, I think that actually.

[Danny Brown]

Oh, no, definitely.

[Host]

Or like, when I listen to, like, Future, like, blues. Well, when I listen, like, March Madness, he's like, even, like. He's, like, in a club, right? And he's, like, on so many drugs, right? And his head can't, like, keep track. It's like he keeps changing tracks. And he's like. He's like, damn, the cops are killing people. Should I fuck this girl even if she's ugly? You know? And he's just. But he's like, also, like. Like, I'm maybe too fucked up right now, and I'm super famous, but I still feel all alone.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, Future is.

[Host]

It's just kind of how it is. A very alienating time. Cut that plea. All of that that is sucks. Just sucks.

[Danny Brown]

I understand what you're saying. Because Future. Future is kind of like blues music for toxic niggas that owe child support.

[Host]

It's true.

[Danny Brown]

And Gaslight, it's like gaslighting for them. You know what I'm saying?

[Host]

But don't you buy it when he's like, I cheated on you, but I'm so sad. You're like, damn, he's having a tough time. It really.

[Danny Brown]

I understand.

[Host]

Don't buy it. I'm like, wow. Yeah, he really has a lot going on.

[Danny Brown]

Sounds like a struggle with discipline.

[Host]

Yeah, well, rap used to be, like, when we were kid. I mean, you're a little bit older than me, but when I was a kid, it was about, like, I had nothing. And now I'm. And then I made a lot of money, and now I'm celebrating it, right? And now it's kind of like I have. I got to the top, but I, like, don't trust anyone around me.

[Danny Brown]

Drake started that. I don't know. I think. I mean, one thing, I feel like hip hop always been rooted in. And this tradition has always been originality. So I like just hearing different stories. And I like hearing, like, regional rap, where you can. Like, you've never been there before, but you can close your eyes and hear them describe it. And you'd be like, ah, that's what's going on in the Magnolia Projects in New Orleans. You know, like, listen to Illmatic. Like, that's Queensbridge, you know.

[Host]

Right.

[Danny Brown]

So that's what I loved about rap. Oh. Even when I listen to Dizzy Rascal I'm like this London, betting the greens. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, take me to your hood. That's what I like. I want to know what's going on. It's like news. It's like our ghetto news. But it ain't like that no more. Cause the Internet, everybody merged in, so everybody make the same sounds now. You know, it's just some regional shit everywhere.

[Host]

But you think it's fucked up that a kid could listen to like. Like Spotify? You listen to any song ever?

[Danny Brown]

No, I think that's actually great, to be honest. Cause I know a lot of kids

[Host]

and we miss it for two months.

[Danny Brown]

I think that is great. Cause a lot of kids do. Could go back and do their research and do homework. I really do think that's the great part about it.

[Host]

But I don't get as deep, though.

[Danny Brown]

I know. I know some. I mean, kids that are into music, they get. Indeed. I can't say, like kids that I've known. But they all making music though, so. They do. It's some kids right now, more knowledgeable old school than me. And I'm like, what the fuck?

[Host]

Yeah, for me, it's just like. I think that, like, when I. I would go to the mall, I get one cd.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, same.

[Host]

And it'd be a month.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

And I would just like. I think that I needed that time to like, just listen over and over and over again to get something. But these kids, I feel like you could just keep changing to, like, different things. I wonder if they could like, really just absorb it. Like, I remember me and my cousin got Dark side of the Moon and we. We were like 11, and we turned off all the lights and we pretended to be high. Oh, we like, imagine like one day we're gonna be high. And it worked.

[Danny Brown]

I've done it before. I think everybody needs one acid trip. Dark side of the Moon.

[Host]

Oh, you've done it too. Dark side of the Moon on real record.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, it made me appreciate it a lot more.

[Host]

Really? Yeah, I like it regular style.

[Danny Brown]

I didn't. I can't say. I mean, yeah, it's definitely a different experience.

[Host]

I love the Floyd dude. What's your favorite song on Dark side of the Moon?

[Danny Brown]

The first one.

[Host]

The time. Time isn't the first one.

[Danny Brown]

I definitely don't know the track.

[Host]

Yeah, that's time. No, no, the first track is. Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

What is it?

[Host]

How does it. What is it?

[Danny Brown]

The way that should start.

[Host]

Keep going, Zach.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, yeah, that. That's the hardest shit.

[Host]

It's so sick. Best man ever. Dude, do you remember that song? I don't wanna know. Yeah, if you're playing me, keep that on the low.

[Danny Brown]

You know what song that guy's like getting?

[Host]

This is the cuck anthem, bro.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, that is correct. If you listen to a lot of those songs and you just think about it, like, you be like, man, they tripping. I remember that one backstreet song where they just singing about getting a boner on the dance floor. Which is that called, like, when we always grinding. I get so excited. It's all about getting a boner. I can't fight it. Dance for real.

[Host]

So as a bar misfit, you're making

[Danny Brown]

it hard for me. They just sing about boners.

[Host]

Just Rebecca Schwartz and the angriest boner you ever had in your entire life. Just like I need to 13 year old boner.

[Danny Brown]

They're singing very aggressively about getting the boner too. Dude like it excited, like, damn. It's like the blue ball started kicking in. Like, ooh, how I like, try, but I can't fight it. You making it hard for me. How was 4N in the booth singing in unison? You. You making it hard for me without breaking a lap.

[Host]

It's with your friends. Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

Who wrote that shit, man? Honestly, it is actual. That's like songwriting genius. Yeah.

[Host]

What is the girl part? The girl feel a little poke coming through.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, the girl part says feel. I feel alone coming through. Oh, you. Oh, you know I can't help it. Those are some freaky niggas, man.

[Host]

Rfe has to come back.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, man, just six. They trying to be too cool. They trying to be too cool. They don't want to sing about boners and shit no more. Cause we all couldn't relate to that. Like, yeah, I remember them bitch grinding on me. That motherfucker. You got to put the mushroom under the drawband, under the elastic. You got your dick on your belly button.

[Host]

You like, man, just these guys. Like, I'm so rich and I'm so sad. Like, that was the purest shit.

[Danny Brown]

You got your dickhead peeking out the bushes. Yeah.

[Host]

12 o'. Clock.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, he's just up there like, yeah, but how did they. How did they convince her to sing that part? I feel like as a woman, I'd have been like, hold up, man. Y' all niggas are here tripping.

[Host]

She thought it was a cool song, probably.

[Danny Brown]

That's like dance. That's like wedding reception.

[Host]

I know you've like, people have danced with their grandmas to that song.

[Danny Brown]

That's what I'm saying. It's crazy now. It's crazy now when you really think about who was cutting the rug to this freak.

[Host]

Dancing for the. For us boys was bar mitzvah era. And it was just our parents were there and we were just like, yeah, like, I have a couple friends just let it go inside the pants.

[Danny Brown]

In Detroit. In Detroit, we had ghetto tech, though. So that's like the most like blatant, like, sex over sexually music ever. So that's what I was growing up, like teenagers and shit.

[Host]

There was nothing left to DJ Assault.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, DJ Assault. Ass and titties and shit.

[Host]

Oh, he. That's ass and Titan.

[Danny Brown]

That's what I used to. That's in Detroit as a kid. That's what we used to hear when we go to like parties and we didn't hear like top 40 radio. It was just DJ assault mixtapes. There's some holes in his house.

[Host]

I wonder how he came up with that.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, he's amazing. He has so many.

[Host]

He's like the kind of the DJ Rashad of Detroit. Is he like the local legend?

[Danny Brown]

He's a super legend. Super duper legend. I mean, he was way before DJ Rashad, so I can't even say DJ

[Host]

Rashad in the sense that like footwork or like Chicago.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it was more jit music because that's what we did in Detroit was more jitting. So I don't know if Assad was just more about hoes. Step up your clothes, hoes get naked.

[Host]

And it would just be like not even a full sentence over and over.

[Danny Brown]

And then I just remember just being like, you know, you in the eighth grade, you just literally just humping a on the ground. You just doggy styling bitches. Just all clothes at the school. Homecoming luck. Yours is in that. You wonder how teenage pregnancy was running rampant around that motherfucker.

[Host]

Remember how angry the boners would get. Those are the most raging.

[Danny Brown]

That's what I came for these days.

[Host]

I'm like, what are you? You're a loser.

[Danny Brown]

I remember especially high school.

[Host]

They'd be like shaking. They'd be like, you don't remember. You're like Super Saiyan.

[Danny Brown]

You don't remember them. Terry Cloth Aniche joggin suits and shit. The Fat Farms boners in them was insane.

[Host]

Well, terry cloth is good for.

[Danny Brown]

That's what I. That was my strip club where.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. Fat, firm, drunk and so what are

[Host]

Detroit strip clubs like?

[Danny Brown]

I haven't been in over 20 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host]

Were they more industrial?

[Danny Brown]

I mean I would be scared. That's what shit happened at. Shit.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. That'd be gangster shit. It's too. I'm too. I'm a bitch ass nigga.

[Host]

Did you ever. This is a stupid question and I'm embarrassed, but did you ever have that, the eight Mile style sex ever?

[Danny Brown]

What's that?

[Host]

When he's like in the factory with Brittany Murphy? Because it was a good.

[Danny Brown]

I got my dick sucked in a Burger King freezer.

[Host]

That's pretty much the same thing.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, yeah, I guess you right. It was the same. I was working at Burger King.

[Host]

It's probably romantic. Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

Bottom onion rings and shit. Yeah, yeah. And it was. It was like my first time really getting a blowjob and I couldn't really respect it because it was in a cold ass freezer. So I didn't really know the powers

[Host]

of it your own self.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I'm just saying I wish it was in a more comfortable setting. Then I really would have, you know, been like damn. So I didn't really. I don't really count it because I didn't know how good it really could get.

[Host]

Well, my first handy was in the back of a girl's parents car. And it took an hour and a half.

[Danny Brown]

That was great.

[Host]

It was the most painful experience of my entire life. She was like starting a. Like a fucking lawnmower. She was like pulling and I was like, stop.

[Danny Brown]

And I was like, I just wish I wasn't a horny kid like that. I wish. I just.

[Host]

But then I was like, I have to like come otherwise I can't call it a hand job.

[Danny Brown]

Oh.

[Host]

So then I was like.

[Danny Brown]

So you were committed to the bit?

[Host]

Yeah. And then I busted him. I busted my face.

[Danny Brown]

Oh yeah.

[Host]

My first hand job. I busted my own damn face. I mean after an hour and a half of just.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, definitely. I'm sure that would happen.

[Host]

Humiliating. I know her full name and I, I want to say it. I would, but you know where you are in your parents infinity.

[Danny Brown]

That's crazy.

[Host]

It's so funny. The only part like not having money sucks.

[Danny Brown]

Oh.

[Host]

But. But getting like the, the girl part is kind of like the one thing that was kind of a little bit fun.

[Danny Brown]

What do you mean?

[Host]

It was like a video game. Well, it's just like I, I had a. I remember. So I had no money and so I say, well, you know all guys take you out to like a, to like a restaurant or a bar and I didn't like have the Money for it. So I was like, why don't I cook for you? And I had this, like, spaghetti bolognese that I priced down to, like, $7.30.

[Danny Brown]

See, this is different cultures going on, right?

[Host]

So then I make her this. This heavy meat sauce spaghetti, and then. But I would buy ground turkey, which was cheaper than ground beef. And then I realized, years later. I know. I realized that it's got like. That. It's not. They didn't go to sleep or anything, but it's like a tryptophan. And I was like. I was making, like. In retrospect, it was like a date. It wasn't a. No, I'm. Come on. It's not. I know. They. Nothing like that happened, but it was like, you shouldn't give a girl a sleepy meal. You know, it's just not the right thing to do. But it was affordable. It was an affordable sleepy. But I was like, in retrospect, I'm like, turkey does Is a sleep. It's not Cosby. I'm not Cosby.

[Danny Brown]

But. Yeah, see?

[Host]

Thank you for your support.

[Danny Brown]

I don't know. When I was broke, I was moving mountains.

[Host]

I know. So I should have gone that route.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. Put the dick on the truck.

[Host]

It sounds like you've conquered a beast.

[Danny Brown]

No, never felt like that. It never felt like that. It just felt like. Cause, you know, you're doing something you really don't want to do, and I feel like anytime you're doing something like that, you're not gonna feel.

[Host]

But didn't you think that you're being like, you're giving them, like, the ple. You're being a nice guy to them?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

To the mountains.

[Danny Brown]

Like charity. Yeah.

[Host]

And they were like, thank you.

[Danny Brown]

I don't know. Cause they be like, he ain't pulled back up.

[Host]

Wait, they insulted you afterwards?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, they want you to come back.

[Host]

Oh, they want you to come back.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. I don't know if I can do it.

[Host]

I don't know if I could do it.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

And then you hit rock bottom, and then you're like. Yeah. Then you're like, bro, that's the worst walk on the way to the.

[Danny Brown]

Oh, the walker's round two.

[Host]

No, the round two of that.

[Danny Brown]

I caught the bus over there to that bitch. The bus at the bus stop. Cold as hell. Leaving, like, what the fuck I got going on? Oh, in the Detroit window. Yeah. You just looking out the window on the bus like, man, what have I done with my life? Just staring down grand river like, this

[Host]

is the misogyny episode. I love it. I'm having such a good time. And don't get me started on their stories.

[Danny Brown]

Can they go, I'm not like that no more. I'm definitely a changed man. I meditate 30 minutes a day now.

[Host]

Me, too. I used to be like that, too.

[Danny Brown]

So, you know, that was my 20s, man. I feel like once I got, like, of age to. My frontal lobe was developed.

[Host]

Yeah. I feel like mine is still developing.

[Danny Brown]

I didn't make those choices because I could think about shit I used to do, man. I'd be like, I can't believe. I'm definitely. No, I can't believe I even thought about doing shit like that.

[Host]

Yeah, but you live, you learn, bro.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I'm so happy now.

[Host]

When you look at Patrick, can you tell, like, do you have, like, a sense of, like, how many times he said the word when it was in a song?

[Danny Brown]

No, I look like he paused.

[Host]

What?

[Danny Brown]

He look like he paused.

[Host]

He paused. He's gay. What?

[Danny Brown]

No. He'll pause on that part, then continue on.

[Host]

He looks like a pauser.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

What about Zach over here? How many times is. Do you have, like, a sense of how many times?

[Danny Brown]

Roughly 56.

[Host]

Zach, he's Jewish.

[Danny Brown]

Roughly a 56. But just while he's. Is it like in the shower or something?

[Host]

In the shower, and then he's still gonna. Oh, shit, it's so funny. It's like masturbating, right? It is like locking.

[Danny Brown]

Why. Why are y' all so obsessed with saying that word in the song?

[Host]

Because it looks so cool.

[Danny Brown]

I have found myself.

[Host]

I've never done it.

[Danny Brown]

I do say nigga a lot, but it's almost like a. It's like an assist. Yeah, it's like a pass. No, I'm talking about when words like. Cause you can fit another word there. But it just rolls so great into another word.

[Host]

It just, like, in rhyme form, when a black guy calls me that, it feels like flying.

[Danny Brown]

Cause sometimes I'll be like, hold up. I'd be like, hold up, man. It ain't enough niggas in here. Let me throw some niggas in this bitch.

[Host]

I agree. There aren't enough.

[Danny Brown]

On my third draft. On my third draft, I drop some more niggas in there. But this new album I've actually made, I don't really even cuss that much much. It's very. It wasn't done on purpose, though. But then all this stuff like, damn, I probably cuss.

[Host]

Is it. You think cussing is hack?

[Danny Brown]

No, definitely not. It just came out that way.

[Host]

No, it's easy.

[Danny Brown]

I think cuss. I think you know what it is. Rhyming cuss words is hack.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

So if you. Anytime you do that. Oh, man.

[Host]

Yeah. Yeah. Duck. You could rhyme with fuck.

[Danny Brown]

But if you say fuck twice.

[Host]

Have you ever rhyme fuck with fuck?

[Danny Brown]

Nah, but I rhyme. I do rhyme twice.

[Host]

Rhyme twice is fun. If it's an emphasis on.

[Danny Brown]

Cameron is like the best ever.

[Host]

He's the best at it.

[Danny Brown]

He created that kind of, you know.

[Host]

I love the watch. Trying. It's great.

[Danny Brown]

Dude, I'm trying.

[Host]

You should move to New York and chill with fuck.

[Danny Brown]

No, it's too cold. And I would get fat.

[Host]

Why would you get fat?

[Danny Brown]

It's just because you can get whatever you want at any time of day. Like, I'm not trying to eat chopped cheeses at 4am but you want to

[Host]

be around those people.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, where I'm at, Austin, where I'm at, it's more of a communal situation. They don't even like me ordering Uber eats in my neighborhood.

[Host]

Really.

[Danny Brown]

They only want like outside motherfuckers hanging out over there.

[Host]

Oh, you're like a hippie commune situation.

[Danny Brown]

It's like hill country.

[Host]

Hill country. Hill people.

[Danny Brown]

I guess.

[Host]

Yeah. Sounds.

[Danny Brown]

It's real communal. I really like it. I go to the market. They want you to. It's all like, only local shops, really. So.

[Host]

Yeah, you wave at your neighbor. Hey.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, you got to Jeff. Everybody just drive golf carts.

[Host]

Do you do a nod?

[Danny Brown]

No, we kick it. They pull up, them motherfuckers talk. Cause they like. I say, they want to know who you are. You living over here? Pulled up. They in your business?

[Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

You know, so it's fun.

[Host]

Who's your favorite one in the neighborhood?

[Danny Brown]

In my neighborhood? Oh, I got a. It's a lady up the street from Michigan.

[Host]

Oh, she's family.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. So, you know, she always invite me over to watch the Lions game and. But I like to smoke and so

[Host]

she doesn't like you smoking in there?

[Danny Brown]

I wouldn't say that. I just don't even want to bring it up, really.

[Host]

She's like a mom.

[Danny Brown]

Like, I can't just sit there and watch football without, you know, with a blunt, you know.

[Host]

Why don't you just ask her? Why don't you? Why don't you? Why don't you ask her if she plays it?

[Danny Brown]

But I'm not the biggest football fan. I like watching football. If I'm betting on it, I'm more of a basketball. And they. They were. They're not basketball people.

[Host]

Maybe you should get all these just.

[Danny Brown]

But they do though. Like. Like in the summer they were watching like the. The Stanley cup finals and on like a big ass projector just.

[Host]

Oh, in the neighborhood?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, Just outside. Everybody just hanging out, watching them.

[Host]

Do they know you're a famous rapper?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. And they think that's cool. I mean, that should make you the most popular guy.

[Danny Brown]

I'm definitely like the youngest. It's like, so you're living with like 60% over 60 years old.

[Host]

You're living with 60 year old hill people?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

And you're like Jeff.

[Danny Brown]

Mm.

[Host]

Yep.

[Danny Brown]

They real passive aggressive too.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. When you be fucking.

[Host]

You the only black guy? Yeah. Yeah. Really?

[Danny Brown]

I think so.

[Host]

And you got green ass hair.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, they like it.

[Host]

Really? They're like, look at this hippie over here.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. They always be like, yeah, but you know, Austin is kind of like that. It's cool. Keep Austin weird type shit.

[Host]

So I fit in mother shit.

[Danny Brown]

Well, like I say, I'm more. I'm literally like maybe an hour from downtown Austin.

[Host]

Oh, so you're in the sticks?

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, like I said, hill country.

[Host]

You got a gun?

[Danny Brown]

Hell yeah.

[Host]

What kind of gun do you have?

[Danny Brown]

I got a staccato.

[Host]

What does that sound? It sounds like music to me.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, staccato, it's very expensive. It's really used for like Olympic shooters and like that. It's like one of those type of professional shooting guns. That's why I don't hear rappers rap about it. Cause they cost too much.

[Host]

Really?

[Danny Brown]

You never heard nobody say, don't got the staccato. But they like talking about expensive things they don't buy. They talk about the cheapest guns, though.

[Host]

They do.

[Danny Brown]

The worst guns. That's a plex. Yeah.

[Host]

Who's the biggest dickhead in rap that you've ever met?

[Danny Brown]

What's the definition of dickhead?

[Host]

I don't know. Just being a dickhead.

[Danny Brown]

Like, being mean?

[Host]

Yeah, being mean.

[Danny Brown]

Probably mean. Really?

[Host]

Are you mean other rappers?

[Danny Brown]

It was a time.

[Host]

You're like Patrice o'.

[Danny Brown]

Neill. Yeah, definitely.

[Host]

You're like.

[Danny Brown]

You're a f. I definitely. I really look up to Patricia o'. Neill.

[Host]

How did you do that? Like, how did you. Like, how did that. Like, how did you act mean to them? Like, how did you establish dominance like that?

[Danny Brown]

Just get drunk as fuck and say the first thing to come to your head.

[Host]

You'd be like, you suck at rap.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. You're a bitch.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

Who? Is there someone you.

[Danny Brown]

I wouldn't want To. I wouldn't want to.

[Host]

Is there something. Have you made amends?

[Danny Brown]

I mean, I made amends. Whatever. You know, once you get sober, you gotta. You gotta do that thing.

[Host]

You gotta like, hit up Drake and be like, I think you're a good guy, actually.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, I'm not Drake. I never met Drake or anything.

[Host]

You've never met him. We gotta chill with him.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

It's so incredible he got to be famous. He's like, how is that?

[Danny Brown]

Oh, because he gives all you Jewish guys.

[Host]

It's our dream, Hope. It's our number one dream. It was so meaningful to me.

[Danny Brown]

What about Jack Harlow?

[Host]

He's Jewish.

[Danny Brown]

I don't know.

[Host]

I don't know how to look at him, knowing everyone who's Jewish. No, he's not Jewish. He's not on my list.

[Danny Brown]

Okay.

[Host]

Shin Blizzle.

[Danny Brown]

Who are some Jewish rappers?

[Host]

Bob Dylan, technically.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. I could say by Dylan. By Dylan had some bars.

[Host]

Yeah. Subterranean. I don't know. We shouldn't. We shouldn't talk about Jewish anymore.

[Danny Brown]

Okay?

[Host]

I don't want to talk about it anymore. I'm sick of it. I wish I could quit. I looked up foreskin reattachment, you know.

[Danny Brown]

Why would you want to do that?

[Host]

Because BB was being such an ass. You can do that though, apparently. But you don't regain it ain't going to look sensitivity. It'd be cool if I got a different color.

[Danny Brown]

Oh, I guess. I guess you could imagine if I

[Host]

had a different color at the end. Helmet.

[Danny Brown]

You can. You can get the style. A different style?

[Host]

Different style.

[Danny Brown]

You can get a style like pick your. Switch your up, like go hoodie or turtleneck.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, mine would be an intellectual. He'd be like a beep. Nick.

[Danny Brown]

You can get like. You know what I'm saying? You want to leave extra skin right here, you know?

[Host]

Yeah, yeah. Get a little.

[Danny Brown]

I'm all down for dick surgery, man.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

I'm all down with it.

[Host]

I'm too scared, like, about.

[Danny Brown]

I don't give a fuck if I get to like 60. Like, fuck it. Just give me the long dong Silver.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

And just stay hard all the time.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

I don't gotta have no feeling in it.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Brown]

That's the only reason. It's the only reason why I work out, really. It's just to be able to fuck with them in my 60s.

[Host]

Yeah, it's true. Because I. I did realize, like, I would always think that, like, if you can't have sex anymore, you.

[Danny Brown]

That's why they. That's why you see old people and they be angry all the time. I mean, because they ain't talking.

[Host]

They got the. You could just take a thing, though.

[Danny Brown]

But no, I mean, yeah, but it's all about your physical prowess.

[Host]

Yeah, but my grandma's doing unspeakable.

[Danny Brown]

You know, like I told you, these hill country, these motherfuckers. Oh, and in shape.

[Host]

So you think that they're having key parties.

[Danny Brown]

They definitely getting freaky.

[Host]

Yeah. Really? And they're judging your ass for being a rapper.

[Danny Brown]

No, they don't judge me. They like that shit. They like you because they like, man, he cool.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

You know, and then they know, like, they know I had got sober and all that kind of. So.

[Host]

So they're impressed.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, I mean, they just. They know I'm not partying all no wild shit.

[Host]

Yeah, it's cool, Jeff.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, because, you know, it's a rapper moved to your neighborhood, you think you're gonna be having parties and. Or something. I don't know.

[Host]

Yeah, free bodies, perhaps. Baby oil. I mean, were you ever invited?

[Danny Brown]

I was never that cool.

[Host]

You is cool to. I agree.

[Danny Brown]

I don't think I was cool enough for the free.

[Host]

I would have been like, I did it. You know, I'm freak off level now.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah.

[Host]

I'm white part.

[Danny Brown]

I mean, you got it. Sometimes you got to do shit for the story.

[Host]

Yeah, of course. Yeah. Did you know that stuff was happening?

[Danny Brown]

Fuck no. But I was definitely entertained by the trial.

[Host]

Yeah, it was pretty good.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, I was tapped in.

[Host]

What was your favorite. What was your favorite little moment?

[Danny Brown]

I'm just. I mean, to be honest, like, the way it all started out and how much was said and what the allegation like, you know, like you thought it was way more like crazier than. Did you sound like, just to find out he was just hiding behind curtains in hijab, jacking off, squirting baby oil. You know what I'm saying? We thought it was like huge orgies with all famous people and politicians, but nah, this nigga was just jerking off at hijab, squirting oil on niggas. It's basically like, yeah, now he doing fine. That's the worst jail time ever.

[Host]

If you film that. That's Jackass 4, you know, now you gotta. You go to jail for it.

[Danny Brown]

But I mean, he was beating on

[Host]

and he was a. Yeah, that was not good.

[Danny Brown]

So. No, but. But what they said, jerking off, baby. What the rumors was that was happening versus what was presented in the courtroom is. Is two different worlds.

[Host]

Well, I. I heard that he was having sex with the dad from.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah, like all these rumors.

[Host]

Dad from Urkel show.

[Danny Brown]

Yeah. And then Carl Winter, TD Jakes and all that shit. Like, and. But it was none of that. It was none of that. When you heard he just hiring.

[Host]

So he did have sex with Carl Winslow.

[Danny Brown]

I don't know. I don't know. But I'm saying that wasn't in the trial. None of that shit was.

[Host]

Go home, Steve. Imagine walking down to the movie, he goes, go home, Steve. That's like the shit of Urkel Carl Winslow.

[Danny Brown]

Imagine Carl Winslow ain't never met Diddy in his mother life. He just chilling at the crib. And all of a sudden he just look up and everybody talking about he diddy fucked him. He like, what the fuck is going on right here, man? You get what I'm saying? And n believe it. And motherfuckers believe this shit. Like you still. That shit happened years ago. I believed it. People that rumored been out. But I'm just saying, like, I feel bad for him. You gotta have some sympathy for the guy. Like, he ain't like, he like some crazy A list actor. Like, he working all the time. Who knows if he trying to get new jobs and shit now. Like, he like, man, I been doing auditions. They thinking I did he at the freakos. Like, who came up with that?

[Host]

It's such a random guy. And I've been.

[Danny Brown]

That's what I'm saying. That's why I feel bad for him. Cause I don't believe that shit.

[Host]

Of course he Carl Wizard.

[Danny Brown]

I don't believe that shit. I don't believe that shit. No, man.

[Host]

It's so easy to believe anything you're told these days. Yeah.

[Danny Brown]

Especially after hearing the trial. Diddy ain't fucking. I'm just saying, I feel. Just imagine Cars Winslow just chilling at the crib and you just on Twitter, like, ugh. His mentions just started going crazy. He getting memes and shit. He like, oh, it's not true. Like, that kind of shit make motherfuckers jump off bridges and shit, man.

[Host]

It's so not true.

[Danny Brown]

Like, I feel bad. Like, duh. That's why I'm off social media, dawg. That's why I'm done with that shit, man. I don't want to know. And then just imagine if you is a motherfucker that's off social media. You ain't watching. If you don't even know these allegations is out here, then you. You just hanging out at Chipotle niggas looking at you crazy. Like, everybody giving me the one eye. Like, what's going on?

[Host]

Doesn't even know that. People think.

[Danny Brown]

Did somebody just say. Somebody get bold and say some weird to you. You're like, what the fuck is going on?

[Host]

People are like snickering looking at you. Yeah, come on, dude. That's amazing. I think that's great.

[Danny Brown]

That's why I hate the Internet.

[Host]

Yeah, I hate it too.

[Danny Brown]

And no one does any fact checking to find out ain't nobody checked on their homies. There's a lot of car. Check in on Carl, see how he doing, man.

[Host]

All right. If he wants to come on the show, I definitely.

[Danny Brown]

He do need to speak his part.

[Host]

Can I say something?

[Danny Brown]

I think maybe that's why it's still lingering like this, because he ain't never really addressed it.

[Host]

We need to hear from him.

[Danny Brown]

Is he still living?

[Host]

I hope so.

[Danny Brown]

Imagine if he did and then n just started saying, you fuck Diddy. That's my legacy now.

[Host]

Danny Brown, everyone. Did you have called Starbucks.

[Danny Brown]

Thank you, brother. Sam.