MARK CUBAN Talks Luka Trade, Epstein, Steve Ballmer

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Adam Friedland Show

Episode: MARK CUBAN Talks Luka Trade, Epstein, Steve Ballmer

Date: March 11, 2026

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Overview

This episode features billionaire entrepreneur Mark Cuban in a wide-ranging, irreverent, and joke-filled interview with Adam Friedland. Cuban discusses his background, NBA experiences, major trades, the infamous Epstein list, ownership dynamics, healthcare, and corporate America. The conversation oscillates between serious business/life insights and playful banter, consistent with the show's comedic tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Mark Cuban’s Background and Family History

• Jewish Roots & Last Name Origin

  • Mark explains his Russian Jewish ancestry and how his surname evolved from a town in Russia ("Kadimi" → "Kabinski" → "Chubinsky" → "Cuban" upon immigration).
  • Quote:
    • Mark: "So my...back were in czarist Russia, right? ... they wanted to know who the Jews were, and so...they had to have a last name." (12:27)
    • “My grandparents didn’t speak much English and all that shit.” (12:36)

• Genealogy Banter with Adam

  • Adam shares his own family lore, comparing their migration stories.

• Notable Family Connections

  • Mark reveals Marty Allen, a famous comedian, is his great uncle.

College Hustle and Early Business Moves

• Pittsburgh Upbringing and College Hustle
  • Mark describes his upbringing in Pittsburgh, his rugby fraternity days, and the crazy stories involving teammates.
  • Chain letter side hustle paid for junior year college tuition.
    • Mark: "Literally made four or five hundred dollars, which back then was your tuition." (19:43–20:07)
  • Rugby stories, annotated photos, and blacked-out faces—a blend of humor and sincere remembrance of old friends.

Becoming a Billionaire: The Broadcast.com Story

• The IPO and Legendary Trade

  • Mark recounts the sale of his company (Broadcast.com) to Yahoo for $5.7 billion.
  • Explains how he protected his windfall with financial derivatives (the “collar”).
  • Quote:
    • “They called it one of the top 10 trades in Wall street history.” (24:25)
    • “All of a sudden, I got this B next to my name...” (23:36)

• Immediate Reactions to Wealth

  • Adam presses on what being a billionaire actually feels like. Mark describes disbelief, laughter, and immediately buying a plane.
    • Mark: “Plane is the thing.” (26:27)
    • “The weird part was...how everybody else responds to you.” (27:06)

NBA Ownership, Trades, and Team Dynamics

• Buying and Running the Mavericks

  • Details on purchasing the team at age 41, his transition from fan to “loudmouth” owner, and confronting NBA legends like Phil Jackson.
    • Mark: “...Phil Jackson...I called him my bucket boy, I called him my piss boy.” (28:44)

• The 2011 Championship Run

  • Mark reflects on the unexpected playoff run, sweeping the Lakers, the pressure of playoffs, and the joy of defeating the Miami Heat superteam.
  • Quote:
    • “When you get into the Playoffs. It’s stressful as fuck, right?” (30:53)
    • “The best part...was about, like, beating the shit out of it [the Heat]…People stood up and started clapping.” (31:06–31:34)

• Relationship with Players & Other Owners

  • Warm reminiscences about Kobe Bryant, Luka Doncic ("Luka’s my guy"), and jests about “domestic whites” in the NBA (e.g., Cooper Flagg).
  • Banter about infamous owners like Donald Sterling (“White party. Yeah.” (53:10)), and Jerry Jones.

• Luka Doncic Trade and Team’s Future

  • Adam presses Mark for clarity on the Luka trade debacle and speculation over Miriam Adelson’s influence.
  • Mark admits no one was satisfied with the trade explanations and expresses concern for Dallas fans.
    • Mark: “No, no one was satisfied with the explanation why one team?” (50:36)
    • “I think the fans have gotten let down, and I think because I kind of let them down.” (65:43)

• NBA Trades and Management

  • Adam: “Do you like developed into like you had to learn the cap and your cba. All of it?”
  • Mark: “Everything was my final decision.” (43:39)

• Transition and Selling the Team

  • Mark talks about selling the Mavericks, the motivation to move to healthcare, not wanting to pressure his kids, and regrets over how the sale process played out.
    • “It was just like, it was a constant battle. And, you know, inside the NBA, it was all about valuations.” (47:21)

• Ownership Culture

  • On his role post-sale and managerial conflicts with GM Nico Harrison:
    • “I did it that way because I expected that I would continue to run the team...That’s just not what happened.” (47:31–47:45)

League Politics, Scandals, Gambling

• NBA’s Transition, Politics, and Scandals

  • Discussion about gambling’s encroachment into the NBA, David Stern vs. Adam Silver’s leadership styles, and the Donaghy referee scandal.
    • Mark: "Shit changes around you, no matter who you are, really." (60:09)
    • "The problem was always the people who managed them. They were the idiots." (61:56)

• Sterling, Epstein, and ‘The Club’

  • Jokes about not being invited to the “Trilateral Commission,” and being ‘clean’ re: Epstein’s infamous lists.
  • Adam awards Mark for not being in the Epstein emails (10:11).

Healthcare, Pharma, and Business Ventures

• Mark’s Drug Company: CostPlusDrugs.com

  • Explains the transparent mark-up model and how Trump started "TrumpRX" as a copycat.
    • "We've saved millions of people a shit ton of money and they thought it was a good idea, so they copied us." (58:03)

• Corporate America, Wealth Gap, and Political Attitudes

  • Mark articulates that rising distrust of big corporations is recognized among business leaders, and that “if you don’t show some compassion as a capitalist, it’s going to backfire on you.” (68:33–69:02)

Miscellaneous: Sharks, Investments, Culture

• Shark Tank Memories

  • Mark recalls camaraderie with fellow ‘Sharks’ (esp. Kevin O’Leary, Barbara Corcoran), and memorable off-camera moments.
    • “The outtakes in Shark Tank would be like the number one rated show..." (55:29)

• Startups and Investments

  • Mark highlights his winning (Beatbox Beverages, sold for $600M) and losing investments.
  • Rapid-fire Q&A on companies he’s invested in: “Moolah Kicks” (women’s basketball sneakers), “Foam Party Hats,” and others.

• Soccer Ownership

  • Speculation about buying an English lower-division soccer team, comparing to “Wrexham.”
    • Mark: “I get offered teams like that all the time...couple million dollars on the lower levels…” (70:01)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On being a billionaire:
  • “It feels really good. …I don’t have to stress about the bullshit I used to…” – Mark Cuban (25:37)
• On the 2011 championship stress:
  • “When you get into the Playoffs. It’s stressful as fuck, right?” – Mark Cuban (30:53)
• On regrets over the Luka trade:
  • “[The fans] have gotten let down, and I think because I kind of let them down. So that’s what bothers me most.” – Mark Cuban (65:43)
• On NBA officiating scandals:
  • “Knew where the bodies were buried.” – Adam Friedland (60:45)
  • “I never had a problem with the refs per se. ...The problem was always the people who managed them.” – Mark Cuban (61:26)
• On the name "Cuban":
  • "Imagine growing up...with the last name like Cuban. ... Everybody called me Castro..." – Mark Cuban (10:40)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 03:45 – Mark joins; comedic riffing about conspiracies and not being “in the club”
• 09:50 – Discussion of Epstein’s emails, Mark’s absence, and Adam’s “award”
• 12:27 – Mark’s surname and genealogy story
• 19:01 – The college chain letter hustle
• 23:28 – Audionet/Broadcast.com founding and Yahoo sale; the legendary trade (IPO/collar)
• 25:37 – Adam asks what being a billionaire feels like, plane as status symbol
• 28:44 – Mark’s NBA ownership, Phil Jackson rivalry
• 30:08 – 2011 playoff run begins
• 32:42 – On Kobe Bryant and “amnesty that” moment
• 33:28 – On Luka Doncic’s arrival and the rise of "domestic whites" in the NBA
• 43:36 – Adam asks about involvement in Mavericks trades and operations
• 44:44 – Mark discusses regrettable trades and the fateful GM call
• 45:48 – Selling the Mavericks; motivations and family thinking
• 50:36 – Luka Doncic trade controversy
• 53:10 – Mark reminisces on Donald Sterling’s “white party”
• 55:01 – Shark Tank stories, Barbara Corcoran’s legendary “freak” reputation
• 58:03 – Mark’s drug company (CostPlusDrugs.com), TrumpRX discussion
• 60:09 – NBA gambling scandals and legacy of David Stern
• 61:26 – NBA officiating management “idiots”
• 68:33 – Corporate America’s growing trust issues
• 70:01 – Cuban on buying an English soccer club

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Conclusion

Irreverent, quick-witted, and packed with NBA and business lore, this episode delivers both deep insight and infectious fun. Mark Cuban’s candor about wealth, ownership, scandals, and the burden of letting down Dallas fans—balanced with his nimble comedic interactions with Adam—make this one a classic for listeners interested in sports, entrepreneurship, and the machinations of modern America.

Transcript

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[Mark Cuban]

I don't even. I'm rich, I'm Jewish. Nobody ever invites me to that. Right. The Trilateral Commission. I didn't get an E. Did you

[Adam Friedland]

feel like a loser? A little bit. Like not finding your name more in the.

[Mark Cuban]

No. Je.

[Adam Friedland]

No.

[Mark Cuban]

That. No. But I'm just talking about the Trilateral Commission. Right?

[Adam Friedland]

Come on. The protocols of the Elders. Yes. Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Like the real shit.

[Adam Friedland]

Did you at least get an invite to one of the sterling freak offs?

[Mark Cuban]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

Welcome back to the Adam Friedland show, guys. This is Adam Friedland. Thanks for joining us. I'm going on the road. I'll be in Tampa, Florida, Los Angeles, California. That's for the Netflix is a joke festival. San Francisco, California and Portland, Oregon. More dates will be announced throughout the year. You can get tickets at AdamFreedland show and there's also a link in the description of this video. My guest this week is American businessman and billionaire Mark Cuban. How do I put this? The story of Cuban is I guess, the story of the American dream. As you'll find out, first he got the money and then he got the power and then he got the pussy. He arrived in Miami, Florida in 1980 as a refugee with his best friend Manolo Ribera after a drug deal gone wrong where he witnessed a man being dismembered via chainsaw. He Began working for Jewish businessman Frank Lopez and developed an attraction to his wife, Elvira, who's from Baltimore. And she also just seems kind of like a frigid bitch. They met at a club, and she was dancing, and he's like, where'd you from? Mark Cuban said, where'd you from? And she's like, baltimore.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Anyway, Mark had a strained relationship with his family because of his ties to organized crime. He famously, of course, tried to offer his mother a thousand dollars that he claimed to earn as a political organizer, which she rejected outright. But then his sister Gina accepted the money. And then after that, he told Manolo to stay away from his sister. Okay. Famous, we all know that. Okay. Shortly thereafter, he was sent to Bolivia. On the side, he negotiated a drug deal behind Frank. What's his name? Frank Lopez. Yeah. Yeah. Behind Frank Lopez's back, he negotiated a drug deal with Alejandro Sousa, who's kind of the classiest guy in the whole. The whole story. Story, yeah. And then Frank. In the history. In the whole history. And then Frank gets mad about it. He's kind of going around Frank's back. And then what transpires afterwards is kind of, of course, boring. And the story kind of drags. But, of course, we all know the ending, which is that at his mother's behest, Mark Cuban, high on cocaine, tracks down his sister. And he finds her with who? None other than Manolo, who. He said, stay away from my sister. And then Cuban shoots Manolo dead. And then learns that Gina, who his sister was, just got married to him. Fuck. And then he takes Gina to his estate and begins a cocaine binge in his office, of course. And then he accuses. Then Gina turns to him and accuses him of wanting her for himself. She get. Yeah, she gets naked. She's kind of hot, too. Look up.

[Mark Cuban]

You can.

[Adam Friedland]

Mark, you look at it.

[Mark Cuban]

Look it up. Look it up.

[Adam Friedland]

Actually, real quick, we'll just go. We'll say pause for Caleb to see. Just check it out. Not Mark. I mean, you know, Scarface sister, maybe. X videos.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

There. So she. That's his sister. Kind of blow that. Get that bigger for me. Enhance. Sorry, I'm dragging. We just saw a picture of. Anyway, so she shoots. She said. She accuses Mark Cuban of wanting her for himself. And then she shoots and wounds him. And then subsequently, she's killed by one of Sosa's men, who Mark Cuban kills in return. And then, of course, Sosa's men invade the grounds and kill Mark Cuban's guards. And including Chi Chi, who's the one who, along with Manny, saved him from the chainsaw thing on Miami Beach. And then Mark takes a rifle and a grenade launcher to the invaders and he kills a bunch of them. But then he gets shot in the back and he succumbs to his wounds. And of course, Mark Cuban falls over the railing from the upstairs, which is open to the kind of an upstairs balcony situation. Do you have a one story or two story house growing up? Two story? Probably. Probably one story over there. But why two? But you know how like we had the balcony because divorced. His parents got divorced. He falls. So Mark Cuban then succumbs to his injuries after being shot in the back. He's killed. And then his body falls from the balcony into the pool, which is. He has an indoor pool. And he has his globe. And at the base of the globe, the motto the world is yours reads is red is red. Anyway. So say hello to my little friend. So say hello to my little friend. Mark Cuban, Ladies and gentlemen, legendary American entrepreneur Mark Cuban, everyone. Appreciate it. You guys sounded big for once. What for once? You know, first I want to start. I want to start. Give you a little credit for something, right? One of the news stories, I think that is going to be, you know, if I'm reading the tea leaves gonna be huge is this goddamn Jeffrey Epstein story. So we search. I mean, you're clean, my friend.

[Mark Cuban]

No, I was in there one time.

[Adam Friedland]

But you weren't in there. You were mentioned.

[Mark Cuban]

I was mentioned by somebody. I think Steve Bannon sent an article to Epstein saying that I might run for President.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, all I'm saying is this. Everyone's mad at all these folks that are in the Epstein emails, but they're not. You don't. Do you feel like you get enough credit for not being in the Epstein emails?

[Mark Cuban]

Let's just keep me out of that same conversation.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, actually, we got you. We got you an award. I had this made for you. It said, is Mark Cuban not in the Epstein?

[Mark Cuban]

Thank you.

[Adam Friedland]

Give it to him.

[Mark Cuban]

Thank you. I want to thank my family. And

[Adam Friedland]

I have a bone to pick with you.

[Mark Cuban]

Okay.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay. Last name we got to talk about first. Sure. Okay. Cuban.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. Where do you come from?

[Adam Friedland]

But you're Jewish.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, I'm Jewish. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

It's not fair.

[Mark Cuban]

Why?

[Adam Friedland]

That you get your last name gets

[Mark Cuban]

to be that it's a imagine growing up, when I grew up with the last name like Cuban. Like, what do you think my nickname was when I was a little kid?

[Adam Friedland]

Heshi Teshowitz.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. Yeah, that. How. Right. Yes, exactly. Everybody called me Castro, like, up until I was like, 17 years.

[Adam Friedland]

But that's cool. You're like. You have a cigar in your mouth.

[Mark Cuban]

You're like. Yeah, you have a.

[Adam Friedland]

You're a gorilla.

[Mark Cuban]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Invented the Euro step, apparently.

[Mark Cuban]

Yes.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you know about that? Castro invented the euro.

[Mark Cuban]

I did not know that.

[Adam Friedland]

It's a popular Internet lore. Apparently, he could hoop.

[Mark Cuban]

I seen something about that. Yeah. I knew he'd play baseball.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. For the Havana Sugar King or something.

[Mark Cuban]

But.

[Adam Friedland]

But also. Yeah. I mean, it's just not fair like, that. I have to just sound. My name sounds like this.

[Mark Cuban]

And you.

[Adam Friedland]

My name was Adam Dominican.

[Mark Cuban]

Right, Right. No, when I go to. When I. Before anybody knew who I was, when I would go to Miami, it was always, are you? Are you? Yeah, are you.

[Adam Friedland]

You're like. It's a little on the nose. What's your real last name?

[Mark Cuban]

That. So where came from? So my. Like, I'm into genealogy, so I'll give you.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, me too.

[Mark Cuban]

So my great, great, great. However, many generations back were in czarist Russia, right?

[Adam Friedland]

Yes.

[Mark Cuban]

And back then your name was like Igor Igorovich or something like that.

[Adam Friedland]

Right.

[Mark Cuban]

But they wanted to know who the Jews were, and so they told them they had to have a last name. They created last names for them, and the last names were based off of what town you lived in. And so my. However many generations back lived in this town called Kadimi. Right. And then went from Kadimi to Kabinski. And then when it got more Anglicized, it went to Chubinsky. And then when my grandparents came over on the boat, they just started. Some people started calling them Cuban. They don't know exactly when or how. The people just started calling them Cuban.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

And that was it. That's how it got to that. And literally on, you know, my name is Cuba M, but on my dad's birth certificate, and it's spelled C U, B, I, N because really. Yeah. My grandparents didn't speak much of English and all that shit.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, to me, it's Chubinski. You're on notice. There you go. Yeah, yeah. I'm actually Landau, apparently.

[Mark Cuban]

Landau. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

As in Martin. I think it's literally the same family. I think it was like the family, Lord is ten brothers and sisters. Nine. Nine of them went to Ellis island, and my dipshit relative went to Cape Town, South Africa. You got on the wrong boat. Literally.

[Mark Cuban]

Whoops. Wait, have you ever heard of Marty Allen? The old, old, old school comedian?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

That's my great uncle. Really? He was like the famous person. You know how every family in the family. Lord coming up from the old country. Right. But. But your great uncle Mark Marty Allen, you know, he's big time with his hair.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. With the curly hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

You had.

[Adam Friedland]

So he's got show business in his place.

[Mark Cuban]

My blood.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

All right.

[Adam Friedland]

I want to just cruise through, like, where you come from. You grew up in Pitt?

[Mark Cuban]

Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You went to college, you had a bar.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I got some pictures of this. Goddamn this, you.

[Mark Cuban]

This.

[Adam Friedland]

It was chaos over there.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, man. Right?

[Adam Friedland]

It does with. Some of the faces are blacked out. It does kind of look like it's for the episode.

[Mark Cuban]

Like that was blacked out because. Yeah, that was a different reason. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Is this you kiss. You're. You're smooching on the floor?

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, yeah, that was me. That was those. That wasn't from the book.

[Adam Friedland]

This is from the Department of Justice, guys.

[Mark Cuban]

No, it's not from the Department of Justice.

[Adam Friedland]

Yes, this is.

[Mark Cuban]

It was worse.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, my God, look at. You guys are doing that elephant walk thing with the.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, because what that was, was.

[Adam Friedland]

It's pretty cool. So that's brotherhood.

[Mark Cuban]

Rugby teammates. And so I played rugby and back when Google, what was the original Google social media thing, they came out with whatever. It was like in 2008 or whatever.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, yes, Google. A reader read. No, no, no.

[Mark Cuban]

I don't remember. But anyways, whatever. So, you know, this is. Back then, I was like, okay, I'll put my shit up there, thinking it was private. And then all of a sudden I got these emails from a reporter. Oh, my God. Whatever the site was, you got it. Because they're Deadspin, right?

[Adam Friedland]

Dead spin.

[Mark Cuban]

Deadspin. And they're like, we got all these pictures of you, like, you know, naked pictures and fucked up things and doing the elephant walk.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, this one, he's licking the.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, right.

[Adam Friedland]

This is from Little St. James Island.

[Mark Cuban]

I'm from Miami. Right. She was 47. Yeah, she was 47. But in any event. In any event. So I had all these crazy rugby pictures that I posted, and one of the guys, the reason so much of it is blacked out is one of the guys, Bob Considine. He was the one that always liked to get naked. You know, there's always a couple rugby players that, you know, parties, and so we had to black him up, but great guy. And so he went to Africa to.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, no vaccines.

[Mark Cuban]

To deal with malaria. Right. To save people, really.

[Adam Friedland]

And build.

[Mark Cuban]

Build nets and everything for people and then he died of malaria. And so this is like a month before all this shit came out. And I'm like, look, you got me, right? There's nothing I can do. You're gonna post every. Do me a favor, let me annotate him. Right? You don't want to just fuck with this guy and show his naked pictures of him after he just died. Being a great citizen.

[Adam Friedland]

Right.

[Mark Cuban]

Doing the right thing.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, if he had a nice one, maybe we can remember.

[Mark Cuban]

So there's a bar in Indianapolis. There's a bar in Indianapolis. And his nickname was Teeny Constantini. You're a good man. He's literally a good man.

[Adam Friedland]

Is that why you started Micro Solutions? Is that why you started.

[Mark Cuban]

That's the best line ever. The best line I ever heard. Wait, did you ever.

[Adam Friedland]

Did you ever find the solution or.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, I did find the solution because

[Adam Friedland]

I heard that you can increase the girth, but the length grows.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh my God. I can't remember name. It was a rugby bar in Indianapolis and literally they have a picture blowing up. Picture of Teeny cos, you know, Bob and just standing there naked, you know, to honor him. Because that's how he was for all these rugby players. And there's a picture of him standing naked, holding up a sign. And he has a. Looking like a flasher at an airport. Literally was at an airport. The guy was just a stud. He was amazing. And so that's how they honored him.

[Adam Friedland]

Who's got the smallest in the NBA? I'm just kidding.

[Mark Cuban]

I don't know. Right?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has a guy ever made it to league because it's so hard to make it to the league?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, of course, right.

[Adam Friedland]

It's just the chances of making it to the league and just like if you have to imagine a guy's got. He needs a micro solution, let's just say. Right. And he's worked his ass off his whole life. He goes to D1, he goes to D1 College. He's just been in showers with just legends his whole life and he makes it to the league. If anything like I'm like there should be like a.

[Mark Cuban]

That I'll just tell you my one. I'll tell you the one story. I'm not going to name the player. Okay, right. So one. Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Popeye Jones.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. But right when I got to the NBA, I would go out, hang out with some of the guys and you know, we were hanging out and one of his buddies goes. Whoever he touches. Female wise.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Let me just tell you. Whoever comes in behind him is going to be a hot dog in a hallway. I'm like, point taken. Moving on.

[Adam Friedland]

Wait, so do you ever. Do you think athletes might get so famous that they might have, like, affairs on their wives and girlfriends? Is that ever a concern?

[Mark Cuban]

You know, I stay out of their personal lives.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. What if you. What if you saw them having an affair and then their lovely wife called you and said, you know, was. What. What happened? What do you do?

[Mark Cuban]

I just say, I wasn't there. You know, Classic. Classic. Yeah. I'm not gonna. Don't get him.

[Adam Friedland]

What happens on Lil St. James.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, my goodness.

[Adam Friedland]

So. So you. I. I like. I like this little detail. Detail. I found. You went to University of Indiana for our.

[Mark Cuban]

Indiana University.

[Adam Friedland]

Congrats.

[Mark Cuban]

Thank you. Natty, baby.

[Adam Friedland]

Big one.

[Mark Cuban]

Yes.

[Adam Friedland]

Everyone on the team was 29 years old.

[Mark Cuban]

It doesn't matter.

[Adam Friedland]

Doesn't matter.

[Mark Cuban]

The score is the score.

[Adam Friedland]

The score is the score is the score. You chose it because it was the cheapest business school.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. Of the top 10. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I love that. I love that. And you paid your way through college. You had some, like, you. You were a hustler.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, totally. I had to pay for my own school.

[Adam Friedland]

What is this chain letter?

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, it's great. That's how I paid for my junior year of college.

[Adam Friedland]

What are you, Bernie Madoff?

[Mark Cuban]

So what it was, was one of these things where there was a list. You got a letter, right. And there was a list of 10 people on the letter. And when you start at the bottom and when you work your way at the top, people are sending you money. So, like, you. I go, I give the letter to you.

[Adam Friedland]

And.

[Mark Cuban]

And you send back. Then it was. You gave me $50 because I sold it to you. And then you sent $50 to the person at the top of the list. And then that way, then you work your way up the list. Then the person you sent the money to, you take their name off the list, right. And you work your way up, and it's your job to go out and get more people to participate.

[Adam Friedland]

That's smart.

[Mark Cuban]

So I made sure I sold all the names up and literally sold it to as many people as possible. Made sure none of the people I sold it to lost any money. They all at least broke even. And then I got up to the top. Suckers at the bottom, suckers at the bottom. Right. People got greedy, didn't take care of their own. And, you know, I literally made four or five hundred dollars, which back then was your tuition. That was my tuition, yeah. $500 crazy, right? Yeah, crazy.

[Adam Friedland]

Jesus Christ. We. Our generation is screwed. You moved to Dallas. Like, how. How big do you like your women?

[Mark Cuban]

Like, hair or. No, no, D. It's not Houston. No, it's not.

[Adam Friedland]

It's not San Antonio.

[Mark Cuban]

Definitely not San Antonio.

[Adam Friedland]

Chuck talks about that.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, Chuck talks about it all the time. Right? Yeah, but, yeah, no, Dallas women are hot. Yeah, they're hot. Yeah, for sure.

[Adam Friedland]

It used to go down Galveston.

[Mark Cuban]

Not often, but a couple of times.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. And they had the oil in the.

[Mark Cuban]

In the water. That part.

[Adam Friedland]

I never see that Chuck rant.

[Mark Cuban]

I got. No, no, I didn't see that.

[Adam Friedland]

They go to Cancun. They go to Galveston.

[Mark Cuban]

They got. They got oily water. Chuck is the best. Have you ever met Chuck?

[Adam Friedland]

No. I read his autobiography.

[Mark Cuban]

No, you should have him on.

[Adam Friedland]

Please get him on right now.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay.

[Mark Cuban]

All of my God.

[Adam Friedland]

Your questions are out the window.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, my best guy ever.

[Adam Friedland]

He's my hero. He's. He is the funniest comedian in America by far. Yeah. By far the funniest comedy show. In fact, the best show is just inside.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

It frustrates me when I see players now. They're all podcasters because I'm like, I have to, like. I lied my way into, like, having a meeting with Rich Paul because I'm like, nice. I was changing agencies. The UTA was like. I was like, next time I'm in Los Angeles, I demand a meeting with Rich Paul. And they took it seriously. I guess they didn't realize I was joking. So I, like, went into this man's office, and I guess now that he's starting a podcast, there was like, yeah,

[Mark Cuban]

he's doing a podcast.

[Adam Friedland]

But I was just like, can you stop? Like, you were. If I was the biggest agent in sports, like, like, I'm doing this because I'm not in the NBA. Like, you know I have to do this, right? Yeah. And then I like, you just don't. You don't want no part of this life. You know, this is like, oh, there's

[Mark Cuban]

no part of the podcast.

[Adam Friedland]

Why are you podcasting? Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

You don't understand, right?

[Adam Friedland]

Just. Why are you doing this? I have to do this. I have no choice. Because. Because I'm, like, 5, 10, and, like, a buck. A buck 20 wet or something. No, but, like. But then, like, yeah, the last 15 minutes, I. I kind of, like. I think we had a productive conversation. Then he just started taking calls, and he was, like, talking to players, and he's like, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

He's showing off. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

A couple Teams interested? I'm like, what should I be?

[Mark Cuban]

He's really talking to his mom is what he's.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah. He's like, it's desant. Yeah, but. But yeah, at a certain point, I was like, just loitering in a man's office and I kept just. He kept taking calls and I kept just being like, I want to say goodbye. Never mind. And then. And then he, like, hangs up on a call and he goes, you see, college basketball sucks, dude. And I was like, yeah, it does. And he goes. I'm like, it's been nice being here. I feel like I've been waiting for 20 minutes. He's like, yeah, he made me wait

[Mark Cuban]

too, so it's okay.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. What the hell is that? He was doing the golf. Do you do golf club?

[Mark Cuban]

No, I hate golf.

[Adam Friedland]

He did golf club in the office thing, like for movies where like, he's like, having a conversation with me. He's like, so, what's your process?

[Mark Cuban]

No, he did not. Bullshit.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

How Bullshit?

[Adam Friedland]

That's cool. But that's like business style. That's like quarter. So what's your process? What. What. What drives you?

[Mark Cuban]

Right. I swing. Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay, first question is, like, you suddenly became a billionaire in one moment in your life.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

What is that? What the fuck is that?

[Mark Cuban]

What the fuck is that? So the company, we started it as Audionet and we were the very first streaming company.

[Adam Friedland]

Did you call the top. Yeah, doc. You did?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. Yeah, we'll get to that. Right. And so started Audionet was first streaming company and just growing like a weed. And we were just audio added video, renamed ourselves Broadcast.com went public, biggest IPO, first day IPO jump in the history of the stock market at the time. And then a year and a half later, we sold Dyahua for $5.7 billion. In stock. In stock, though, Right, Right. So then I was like, look, I don't need to be greedy, right. I got this B next to my name, and I'm happy with that. And so I did this thing called a caller where it was a public company, Yahoo. And I sold calls and bought puts to protect my downside and give up some of the upside, protect my downside collar. Not three months later, everything craters. And they called it one of the top 10 trades in Wall street history.

[Adam Friedland]

Were they. Were you blowing the whistle on the dot com bubble? Like, were you saying, like, listen, this is. Everything's just.

[Mark Cuban]

No, no, the companies were cool. Right? It was just the valuations in the stock market. Like, literally, I would come to New York and be in a cab, and people would be talking about, oh, you Broadcast.com, right? Oh, I buy broadcast. I mean, everybody was talking about stocks. Like, now people talk about crypto or whatever, but you're not getting in your Uber and everybody's talking stocks. And that's the difference. It was just. You could just tell. It was just. People were just too excited about trading stocks. There would be ads on television. You know, let's trade stocks. It was just a different world.

[Adam Friedland]

Like the Robin Hood thing that happened, like, five years ago, right? Like, well, there was just like, you know, just all my friends.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, yeah, Everybody getting to Robinhood, Buying, selling crypto.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah, we thought that.

[Mark Cuban]

We thought to the moon, right?

[Adam Friedland]

With dogecomes of Wall street, all of us just got ripped.

[Mark Cuban]

My friend called me.

[Adam Friedland]

He's like, I just lost $50,000.

[Mark Cuban]

He's like, I think I have a gambling addiction. For real?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. So. So. So what? Like, what is a bill? Like, what is that? Like, what is a billion dollars? Like, what is having a billion. What does it feel like? Does it feel good?

[Mark Cuban]

It feels really good.

[Adam Friedland]

Really? Really? But what does it do? Like, what?

[Mark Cuban]

I don't have to stress about the bullshit. I used to have to stress, you

[Adam Friedland]

know, half a billion dollars, you don't have to stress, Right?

[Mark Cuban]

This is true. But I wasn't going to give it back.

[Adam Friedland]

I know, I know. I'm not saying that. But, like, your wife's not gonna. Your wife's not gonna understand what a billion dollars is, right?

[Mark Cuban]

Nobody does. Like, it was weird, like, when it first happened. I mean, you just. You can't even fathom it.

[Adam Friedland]

Like, when it would laugh. Did you laugh?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, it was insane. Like. Like, to this day, I mean, it's just like, how the. This happened to me. Me. But, like, when it first happens, it's like, okay. I mean, I remember the moment, right? And it was like this. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, oh, my God, how did this happen? And then your first inclination, what changes? You know? And for me, it was like, I wanted to buy a plane.

[Adam Friedland]

And so plane is the thing, right?

[Mark Cuban]

Plane is the thing. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Because you could be like, I want to go to Tokyo for dinner.

[Mark Cuban]

I can go right now.

[Adam Friedland]

That's crazy.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. I can go right now.

[Adam Friedland]

I want to go to Brazil for. For to shop.

[Mark Cuban]

Let's go. Let's go. Really?

[Adam Friedland]

You could do that?

[Mark Cuban]

I can do that.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you want to go to Magic City right now?

[Mark Cuban]

The wings, right?

[Adam Friedland]

We're at the Lemon Pepper lose. So the plane. So. So I guess it's just kind of like the plane is the thing.

[Mark Cuban]

The plane is what you can buy, like now with a billion dollars. You can't afford a sports team. Back then you could, right? It's crazy. But. So the plane was one thing, but the weird part was like, how everybody else responds to you. Like, my brothers, my parents, my friends.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, the jackals.

[Mark Cuban]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, they just don't know, right?

[Mark Cuban]

They're like, okay, you know what's going to change? Like, I had one dude that I was kind of like a running buddy type dude that I wasn't close to, but he just sent me a letter, right. Didn't ask me. Sent me a letter asking for $275,000.

[Adam Friedland]

And he said he's gonna give $275,000 to the next person.

[Mark Cuban]

Right. And put your name at the bottom of the list.

[Adam Friedland]

But like, you, you know, you. You're so, you still go to Costco and stuff?

[Mark Cuban]

I go to Target. Yeah. I go to Walmart. Just whatever. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Just like. Sorry. He's just like us, dude right now.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I mean, I, my. Here's my take, right? A billion dollars. Like, you're not. You're kind of. You just want to have more money than other guys, right? At the beginning, it's a little bit like you're thinking about other guys all day.

[Mark Cuban]

All day.

[Adam Friedland]

The only plausible way to do it in my mind is if you have a team. Right.

[Mark Cuban]

That's where my head was.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, it's the. It's. It must be the best thing ever when you're winning. Well, no, you even. Well, yes. Right.

[Mark Cuban]

When you're losing, it's brutal.

[Adam Friedland]

When you. I remember you coming into the league and being the loudmouth owner of the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah. And then I, I'm a Laker fan, so I'm like, oh, screw this guy. But then in reality, it's like, if I have my own boys, my squad, like, I would be doing it like you.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, my God, it was so much like when I first got in and nobody knew what to expect and didn't know shit about me. I mean, I would fuck with everybody. Like, I'd, you know, I'd get fined for shit. But like, Phil Jackson, right? So he and I. Because back then, you know, regular old school media, right? You just talk to a reporter and everybody would see it.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

And so, like, he would talk about me. Oh, he doesn't know this. I would just talk shit right back. So, like, I called him my bucket boy, I called him my piss boy. And I'm. And I'm getting an interview with the Zen master, right? The Zen master is my piss boy, right? Because it's from this old Mel Brooks movie, right, where there's this thing about piss boy. Piss boy. And so it's just like.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, like. Like the chamber pot.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Why did. Why Phil Jackson?

[Mark Cuban]

Just because he would with me and, you know, I would with him right back.

[Adam Friedland]

How old were you when you bought the maps?

[Mark Cuban]

41.

[Adam Friedland]

Sick. Yeah, sick. And they're. They're younger guys now. There's para.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, Robert.

[Adam Friedland]

Para. How old was he when he bought it?

[Mark Cuban]

I think he was. I don't know. I don't even know with Robert because he never would show up to the meeting. So.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, what was his thing? It was from, like, routers. Yeah, he has the best routers.

[Mark Cuban]

I don't know if he has the best, but Russia buys a lot of them.

[Adam Friedland]

I know. Your boy Pablo just did a thing.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, I saw it.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, your boy Pablo.

[Mark Cuban]

My boy Pablo.

[Adam Friedland]

Should we call him right now? Should we prank him?

[Mark Cuban]

You can call Pablo. I don't care. I don't know Paris stuff. I don't know. I don't know him at all.

[Adam Friedland]

You and Pablo were beefing, right, about the Ballmer thing?

[Mark Cuban]

No, I wasn't beefing. I get along great with Pablo.

[Adam Friedland]

Right.

[Mark Cuban]

It's just that we just disagreed.

[Adam Friedland]

I just want to just talk a little bit about that 2011 run because I think the NBA, we don't really see Cinderella runs like that.

[Mark Cuban]

And that was.

[Adam Friedland]

And what? Like what? When did you know there was something happening?

[Mark Cuban]

Not till we got past the Lakers. You know, when we swept the Lakers, then I knew, because I'm always the type that I'm. Because in 2006 we made it to the finals. We go up 20 against the Heat, and I'll never forget, it's the third quarter, we're up 14 points, I'm standing behind the bench and I'm thinking to myself, we might sweep these motherfuckers, right? And then two minutes later, you know, boom, it all falls apart. So I never got, like cocky or overconfident thinking this is going to happen until, like, there's a picture of me next to the bench with like 30 seconds to go, and we're up 10, and there's just a bunch of us meeting Brendan Haywood, you know, desean Stevens, just screaming at the top of our lungs. And it's not. It's. That's all the stress release, right? Because when you get into the Playoffs. It's stressful as fuck, right? Because. Yeah, because you're just going, going, going, and the further you get, the more stressful it becomes.

[Adam Friedland]

Was there a satisfying aspect about the, like, not one, not two, not three,

[Mark Cuban]

about, like beating the shit out of it? Yeah. Yeah. The best part about that, no matter where I went, people just clap. Like, I came to New York, I had, I had an event that I had to do in New York, and I got off the plane, Right. My plane. I got off my plane and literally the people that were just working at the airport started clapping.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

I walked into a restaurant here. Yes. Because we beat LeBron, you know, at rock music restaurant here, people stood up and started clapping.

[Adam Friedland]

In retrospect, kind of like that year kind of, I feel like, was what. I think he was beloved. And then there was the, the decision.

[Mark Cuban]

Yep.

[Adam Friedland]

And then that last press conference after JJ snatched his soul.

[Mark Cuban]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

After JJ Beret literally snatched his soul.

[Mark Cuban]

Hook him.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, that's your boys, dude.

[Mark Cuban]

Took him.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

You know, just, just as bad, buddy.

[Adam Friedland]

Right. That, that, that, that, that, that press conference, like, where he's being a clutch sports UTA family.

[Mark Cuban]

But I remember because I was drunk.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, you had to be hammered. But he's like, they were like, what do you say to your, like, your critics? And he's like, you're poor and you're not LeBron James. Tomorrow you're going to wake up poor. And I'm just. And from the dis, like, I saw him be like a darling of the league. And, and then from the decision that changed a year later, I think, like, his reputation still hasn't kind of recovered.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. I mean, you know, he's LeBron.

[Adam Friedland]

He's LeBron.

[Mark Cuban]

He's LeBron.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

I mean, I don't know. He's. He's cool. He's cool to me. Right. Because he produces movies and he's giving me cameos in a bunch of his movies. So that's my guy.

[Adam Friedland]

Wait, can you tell me about my, My goat a little bit? I know he wants my goat a little bit. Kobe. Kobe beat. Oh, yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Kobe's a real deal. Yeah, we miss him. I had a great relationship with Kobe.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. You know, you liked it if you were mean to him.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, no, because I fucked him. Like, I said they should amnesty him. And then there was like the anniversary, like 13 year anniversary of me saying that and him coming and torching the Mavs for 40 some points and then saying, then saying amnesty that.

[Adam Friedland]

You know, there's a Lakers Mavs game a couple years ago where Luka was maybe his second year or third year, and he was just going possession for possession with LeBron in that fourth quarter. Do you remember that game? It was like a regular season game. I was just like, it was unbelievable.

[Mark Cuban]

That's when you saw what Luka was going to. That's when he arrived.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's your. That's your. That's your. That's your favorite guy, Luka. Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Cooper Flagg. No, I love Luka. Luka's my guy.

[Adam Friedland]

How does that feel? Cooper flag. The domestic whites. We let these Euros come over here. And the domestic, better at sports than us. And then now the ride. Chet and Cooper flag. It's Wakanda a little bit for us. No, it's representation.

[Mark Cuban]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

When I'm like, I watch Austin Reeves on the Lakers, I'm like, if I played on a team with LeBron James, I would be busting my ass like this guy, right?

[Mark Cuban]

And look what's happened.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Become a hell of a player.

[Adam Friedland]

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[Mark Cuban]

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[Adam Friedland]

How much involvement did you have in like transactions?

[Mark Cuban]

Everything.

[Adam Friedland]

Everything.

[Mark Cuban]

Everything was my final decision.

[Adam Friedland]

And so you do you like developed into like you had to learn the cap and your cba. All that. All of it?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. What do you think the worst trade was in NBA history?

[Mark Cuban]

I don't know. Maybe there were a couple trades in February of 2025, that weren't that good, but I don't want to judge which one.

[Adam Friedland]

Which one was it?

[Mark Cuban]

I think there was a deal with the Lakers, but I forget. No.

[Adam Friedland]

What did that do to you? Did you feel like you put 20 years into something and then you were like, what the fuck has happened?

[Mark Cuban]

Pretty much, yeah. Yeah. I remember exactly where I was. I was talking to Governor Andy Beshear, speaking of. Governor of Kentucky. Of Kentucky, yeah. Literally, I was at a healthcare event and. Or at an event talking about healthcare, and there was like six or seven people, politicians and shit. And we were having a beer, and I got a text from our general manager, and he's like, hey, give me a call, Nico. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And you hired him?

[Mark Cuban]

I hired him.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you regret it?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, in hindsight now, it was a mistake, but whatever. But, yeah, he was like, mark, call me, you know, And I did. And that's when I. When he told me about it, I thought he was asking me as opposed to telling me. He's like, no, it's done. I'm like, what the fuck? And that was it.

[Adam Friedland]

When you own a team, do you feel like there's like an extra kind of layer of responsibility because you have a responsibility kind of to a community? Right.

[Mark Cuban]

For sure. Like, I would say it all the time. I didn't own the team. I just responsible for the Bills and the fans on the team.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. And like, to some extent, like, I mean, it's not your fault if something goes wrong. There's like a. I mean, God forbid, but there's like a domestic violence if somebody goes right. Like, then a guy from the Eagle, like an Eagles fan, will get to eat a piece of poo poo, right? Yeah. You know.

[Mark Cuban]

You know, you got to set your sights.

[Adam Friedland]

The community kind of depends on it.

[Mark Cuban]

No, I mean, look, when you're winning, when you're going on a champ, like the Eagles or whatever, you're going on a championship run, and they love. The whole city's on fire. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And it's their favorite food, a poop hoagie. So what. Why did you decide to sell? I mean, like, it had to. You had 20 years. You like.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, 23 years.

[Adam Friedland]

You 23. You love that ship. You were loving it more than any other owner.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, but it got. It got to the point where your

[Adam Friedland]

kids had to have been, like, that was so much fun.

[Mark Cuban]

They were. They were having fun, but I was, you know, I don't want it to be a situation where they felt forced to follow my footsteps, you know? Because I've seen other teams where the sun takes over, you know, and kind of like, it's just the expectation.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, your son is a problem.

[Mark Cuban]

No, my son is cool as hell. He loves basketball.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, he would fuck up the team.

[Mark Cuban]

No, he wouldn't fuck up the team.

[Adam Friedland]

You're saying your son is worse than Nico Harrison?

[Mark Cuban]

No, my son would run circles around Nico Harrison. My son knows his shit. Right. Football even more than basketball. But, you know, it was just to the point where it just wasn't as much fun anymore, you know, And I. I wanted to do this health care thing, and that was starting to take off, and I don't want my kids to feel the pressure to follow my footsteps. And it was just like, it was a constant battle. And, you know, inside the NBA, it was all about valuations. Like when I first got started with David Stern, and then even when Adam took over, it was all about fans and making the league better and improving the experience and the global profile, too. Yeah, and all that stuff, too. They were smart. They were smarter than I was on that stuff. But then all of a sudden, you know, teams changed hands, and all the meetings were about, you know, valuations and not about improving the teams or improving the game itself. And I was just like, okay, I don't need this shit anymore.

[Adam Friedland]

In, like. Do you feel like you sold at the top?

[Mark Cuban]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

Was it.

[Mark Cuban]

No, no, no. I left money on the table.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, because you're. It didn't feel like a Mark Cuban deal.

[Mark Cuban]

Right.

[Adam Friedland]

Because I got, like, a similar valuation right after you sold.

[Mark Cuban]

Right, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And it's like.

[Mark Cuban]

That's different markets.

[Adam Friedland]

It's a smaller market.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, for sure. No, I left money on the table. You know, financially, it was not a good move for me, or I made mistakes, and I did it that way because I expected that I would continue to run the team. Team, Right. Because. Yeah, and that's just not what happened.

[Adam Friedland]

And what was your title after that? Basketball operations.

[Mark Cuban]

No, it was going to be in charge of basketball operations, but the. The league had these stipulations, and we couldn't get it into the contract. And I trusted the guy, and the guy didn't live up to what he shook hands on.

[Adam Friedland]

Did he force you out or the league forced you out of it?

[Mark Cuban]

Basically, Nico forced me up because he got you hired. The guy I hired. Got the new guy.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Right. Got the new guy to basically trust him and ignore me.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you think Nico Harrison's done better with his role overseeing Trump's trade policy?

[Mark Cuban]

You know, I noticed the similarities.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

I think he has.

[Adam Friedland]

Is the tariff thing a Nico joint.

[Mark Cuban]

You know what? I think you're right, because, you know, tie it back. Right. Nobody really gets this, but you were the first. Right. Tennis shoes manufactured overseas.

[Adam Friedland]

I call them basketball shoes.

[Mark Cuban]

Basketball shoes. Yeah, basketball shoes. Sneakers manufactured overseas. Right, right. Tariffs.

[Adam Friedland]

Right, right, right.

[Mark Cuban]

Because Nike manufactures everything overseas. Right. And it's not just shoes, of course.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

You know. Right.

[Adam Friedland]

And so, yeah, of course, there's a speculation that. That Miriam Adelson wants to move the team to Tel Aviv. What do you think? What do you make of that?

[Mark Cuban]

I don't. I don't.

[Adam Friedland]

You don't think that.

[Mark Cuban]

No.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Did it change your whole perspective on the whole what's going on over there thing at the trade, like Miriam.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, Miriam. You know, we made an agreement not to talk politics, right?

[Adam Friedland]

You and Miriam. Yeah. Yeah. Here is a question, though. There is a speculation about the. What's happening in Austin. Lobbying in Austin for the gaming. It's a red state. It's the single biggest donor to the Republican Party. The Adelsons. Like, why have they been unsuccessful in.

[Mark Cuban]

In what?

[Adam Friedland]

In Austin? I don't understand. I mean, it doesn't make sense to me.

[Mark Cuban]

Texas politics is a different beast.

[Adam Friedland]

Well, they don't go to work. They go to work, like, two months a year, Right?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, Every two years. Every two years. Every two years they go to work. Right. And so. Yeah, yeah, it's just a different beast. And there's, you know, the people in charge have got to be able to bring the bill and all this stuff. I'm not into the Texas politics.

[Adam Friedland]

Trump was literally like, Miriam gives so much money. Like, she wanted the Golan Heights. I gave her the Golan Heights, and she got the Golan Heights, but she couldn't get a casino in Dallas.

[Mark Cuban]

You know, I mean, that shows you who has the power.

[Adam Friedland]

Greg Abbott. Oh, no, but she does. No, it doesn't.

[Mark Cuban]

It's a.

[Adam Friedland]

It's a.

[Mark Cuban]

Like I said, even more power than the president.

[Adam Friedland]

I. Do you think that there's, like. Like, why. What happened? Like, like, why was Luka offered one team? Like, do you think, like, do the people of Dallas, or do you, as a former owner, feel satisfied in an explanation? Like, do you feel like. No.

[Mark Cuban]

No one was satisfied with the explanation why one team?

[Adam Friedland]

I'm a Laker fan, too, so you don't even have to actually. Fine. It's fine. Israel wanted us to. No, but what.

[Mark Cuban]

Like, it made no sense to anybody.

[Adam Friedland]

It made no sense. Right.

[Mark Cuban]

It was like, if you're going to trade them. Okay. You can make an argument you're going to trade them, but at least get as much as Desmond Bain. I'm not here.

[Adam Friedland]

Who is it? Miriam.

[Mark Cuban]

Miriam. Yeah. Bathroom repair guys.

[Adam Friedland]

There, you see? There's like literally a toilet.

[Mark Cuban]

I saw. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

So embarrassing.

[Mark Cuban]

I saw someone had used it. That was the embarrassing part. Am I wrong? Right? There was in there. Wait, let's go back to this. Right?

[Adam Friedland]

Does it feel.

[Mark Cuban]

Wait, let's go back to right. I'm rich, I'm Jewish.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Nobody ever invites me to that. Right. The Trilateral Commission. I didn't get an email.

[Adam Friedland]

Feel like a loser a little bit like not finding your name more in the.

[Mark Cuban]

No jeopardy. No, that. No. But I'm just talking about the Trilateral Commission. Right?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Come on.

[Adam Friedland]

The protocols. The elders. Yes. Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Like the real.

[Adam Friedland]

Did you at least get an invite to one of the Sterling freak offs? No, but what was it like seeing that guy? The board of governors.

[Mark Cuban]

It was different. And it wasn't the board of governors. He would have gatherings like when they had the All Star Game there. Whatever. Oh, my God. It was, it was kind of weird. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I had Blake on the show and it was. I was like, he would like, he would bring in like other like, gargoyles to be like, these are the tremendous bodies of the beautiful boys on the team. Blake said he was in a towel and Sterling took his hand. He goes, my best player. Hip, hip, hooray.

[Mark Cuban]

And he lifted his hand up. It doesn't surprise me. Yeah, yeah. Did you.

[Adam Friedland]

You didn't go do anything like that. You just. In the locker room, you didn't say, this is. This is Heshi Teshewitz.

[Mark Cuban]

Heschi was a legend, though. You knew it was Heshi because he never worked.

[Adam Friedland]

Look at DeAndre Jordan. Yeah. What was that guy like? Tell me a little bit.

[Mark Cuban]

DJ DeAndre.

[Adam Friedland]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, Donald Sterling.

[Adam Friedland]

DS DS.

[Mark Cuban]

He was different.

[Adam Friedland]

He looked like, like Smeagol a little bit, though.

[Mark Cuban]

He was prototypical, that's for sure.

[Adam Friedland]

Like, what did he say to like, V. His girlfriend?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I don't want to see you with black guys.

[Mark Cuban]

It was, it was sad.

[Adam Friedland]

He was a racist. Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

I mean, and literally, like, I, he, I, I went to one thing, I think that the NBA put on that he hosted because it was always really uncomfortable.

[Adam Friedland]

White party.

[Mark Cuban]

It was a white party. Yeah. Yeah. But it was NBA hosted. I think it was All Star Game or something. And it was always uncomfortable. And he reminded me of my old Jewish grandfather.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, you know yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

You know cupid with an I? Yeah. It was just like he was. My grandfather was a little bit racist and he just reminded me of that.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, but that's what a grandfather is, honestly. Yeah. Fair play. Did you have a relationship with Jerry when you were in Dallas?

[Mark Cuban]

Jerry Jones? Yeah, I get along great with Jerry.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I have a question. Like, did it like, you're the owner of the team? Did it feel like, you know that clip? Do you see the clip of Jerry talking about like he's like five. He's like five foot nine, four, four, 40, 280 pounds, eight and a half inches hard. Did you about one of his players.

[Mark Cuban]

I missed that. I missed that one.

[Adam Friedland]

There's a lot of measuring as a

[Mark Cuban]

in sports, and you're the one bringing it up every single time.

[Adam Friedland]

What about penises? I mean, just guys bodies is the loop bit. Do you have to hire maybe a black guy to do the measuring? You don't want to be measuring as a white guy. That's the owner.

[Mark Cuban]

Do you need a job?

[Adam Friedland]

The owner of my teeth. I'm not saying the penises. I'm just saying like how high they can jump. And you just a little bit. You don't want to do the measuring.

[Mark Cuban]

You go back to it a lot.

[Adam Friedland]

Not the penis. Dude. You got a nasty mind, dude. You know, I had Kevin on the show.

[Mark Cuban]

Which Kevin?

[Adam Friedland]

You're Kevin o'. Leary.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, Kevin o'. Leary.

[Adam Friedland]

You know, Shark Tank's real, too.

[Mark Cuban]

His what?

[Adam Friedland]

I think Shark Tank is real for him. I mean, he's like. And I can't stand when Barbara and Laurie tell the. I was like. I like when you yell at kids. And he's like. And Barbara and I can see their idea. It stinks. Like, I can smell it from over here. And Barbara and Lori are telling these little four year olds, oh, the great idea.

[Mark Cuban]

That's Kevin. That's Kevin.

[Adam Friedland]

I'm like, it's real.

[Mark Cuban]

It's not just tv. No, it's real for sure.

[Adam Friedland]

He the. You left the show.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You miss it?

[Mark Cuban]

I miss the people. It was fun.

[Adam Friedland]

He cried when you left. I saw.

[Mark Cuban]

He did.

[Adam Friedland]

You guys did a cheers.

[Mark Cuban]

We did the cheer. Yes. Thanks for watching Tender. It was tender. It was a good moment. I mean, all the Sharks got on great. And the crew and everybody, you know, and we had our eater, too. And so we all celebrated them and. Who? Barbara? No, not Barbara.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, oh, sorry, staff. Yeah, Barbara's.

[Mark Cuban]

Barbara's a beast.

[Adam Friedland]

Barbara's a beast.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, my God. Like the outtakes in Shark Tank would be like the number one rated show, but because half the time, if there's a good looking guy comes in to pitch, here's Barbara. As they're walking up, I feel like Barbara.

[Adam Friedland]

I feel like Barbara just dates like Brazilian 22 year olds.

[Mark Cuban]

Both of them? Yeah. I mean, like, not just one.

[Adam Friedland]

Lori, too?

[Mark Cuban]

No, no, no. Not just one. Like, Barbara wants them all. Like, she's like, I'm at that point in my life. Or just bring it hard, baby. Oh, Barbara's a freak.

[Adam Friedland]

Barbara a freak.

[Mark Cuban]

I love her.

[Adam Friedland]

I knew it. We were talking about this yesterday. We were talking about this yesterday.

[Mark Cuban]

Yesterday, boys.

[Adam Friedland]

Of course.

[Mark Cuban]

You know what? When she had. How did we get this?

[Adam Friedland]

Because we were like, gonna ask about it.

[Mark Cuban]

We're like, oh, Barbara, you know what happened? Her birthday party, right? No, where she, she had a birthday party. We're like, where's Barbara? Where's Barbara? And everybody's like, special surprise. No worse.

[Adam Friedland]

No worse than shipping. I think shipping is nice, but in

[Mark Cuban]

a party with 100 people. But there's a casket. No. And literally we all walk up and they say, last rice. And then Barbara gets out of the casket and the party starts.

[Adam Friedland]

Was she wearing like a, like a, like a sexy outfit or something? Or like a bikini? Like a coming out of a cake?

[Mark Cuban]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Adam Friedland]

Just regularly. We love Barbara.

[Mark Cuban]

I love Barbara to death. She's the best.

[Adam Friedland]

Tell me, how did Damon go from a common street hustler to a fashion entrepreneur?

[Mark Cuban]

I'm sorry.

[Adam Friedland]

I've watched so much of that show because, like, I do stand up on the road and when you're in a

[Mark Cuban]

hotel, it's just on CNBC all day.

[Adam Friedland]

Shark tank for like 9 hours. Go to the comedy club, go back, see Kevin, yell at a child. I want to talk to you about your, your pharmaceutical drugs. Yeah, yeah. One thing that I don't, I listen, I'm not a fucking. I know nothing about business. Right. I, I, I literally, I'm a psychopath. Whatever this is. I don't know. Like, this is my business, and it's a good business. Your mom and the business is good.

[Mark Cuban]

The business is good.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay, but is it true that Trump has his own Trump drugs company?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, Trump rx.

[Adam Friedland]

Did he. And he copied.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. But his not good does not measure up.

[Adam Friedland]

What is your just.

[Mark Cuban]

So My company's called costplusdrugs.com.

[Adam Friedland]

okay.

[Mark Cuban]

And, and what it is, it's a very transparent pharmacy. So when you go to costplusdrugs.com, you can put in the name, and unlike anywhere else, we'll show you our cost. You just mark it up 15%, $5 for shipping, and you save a lot of money.

[Adam Friedland]

Okay. Right.

[Mark Cuban]

And so we've saved millions of people a shit ton of money and they thought it was a good idea, so they copied us. But we still work with them because I don't care. As long as people get cheap meds, I'm happy.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. And so then Trump. Now there's Trump drugs or whatever.

[Mark Cuban]

Just Trump rx. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. You were kind of positioning yourself as kind of the anti Trump billionaire for. For a second.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah. That's just, you know, he is who he is now.

[Adam Friedland]

You're best friends with him. You made a deal.

[Mark Cuban]

I haven't talked to him.

[Adam Friedland]

You went to the island, you made a deal. He said that they're 500% cheaper.

[Mark Cuban]

A thousand.

[Adam Friedland]

But how's that. What does that mean?

[Mark Cuban]

It means they're cheaper than.

[Adam Friedland]

So you get like. Drug is nine. Nine dollars. You get. Well, sorry, if a drug is $100, then you get $900.

[Mark Cuban]

Back.

[Adam Friedland]

Back.

[Mark Cuban]

That's what makes Trump RX so good.

[Adam Friedland]

That's what makes him so good.

[Mark Cuban]

That's why all those crypto deals, that's

[Adam Friedland]

the art of the deal.

[Mark Cuban]

The art of the deal, Right. You make all the money on crypto and then you give it back when

[Adam Friedland]

you sell people drugs from the Qatar or something. It's so white trash these days. Cutter, Cutter, the president shouldn't be making money off of being the president. Right? Isn't that. Isn't there a rule somewhere?

[Mark Cuban]

As long as the big guy gets 10%, right. I mean, it's just crazy. You know, they would with Biden, who maybe did, maybe didn't, and then make all this money from crypto and everything else.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. Would you see yourself getting involved in politics? No, no, no.

[Mark Cuban]

I don't have the temperament.

[Adam Friedland]

You don't have the temperament? Yeah. Yeah. What if Kevin was running and you're

[Mark Cuban]

like, Kevin did run in Canada.

[Adam Friedland]

In Canada.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, he did run in Canada and

[Adam Friedland]

he ran on the. On the child.

[Mark Cuban]

They ran him out the door.

[Adam Friedland]

Child hate party. I want to just like real quick, like, I know we have like five minutes, but like, I want to get to like the. This year in the NBA, there have been two major kind of stories break. There's been the baller story and then the. The gambling story.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

I think gambling does kind of like naturally, it was something that Stern was kind of keeping away from the league, I guess. First question is, like, does a David Stern NBA. Do these scandals break like they have in a Stern administration?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, things. Shit changes around you, no matter who you are, really. So. Yeah, I don't think he could have stopped it. And I love David to death, you know.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. You had a long standing rivalry with the refs. Right. And like, it is understood that like when Donaghy. Donaghy was going to turn state's witness and then go back in. And then it was leaked the post that Donaghy was working was with the mafia, and then it kind of prohibited him from wearing a wire, you know, with the rest of the reps. Like, can you tell us like a little bit about like, you know, Stern kind of. It seems like nipped that in the bud before.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, he did, right?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

I mean,

[Adam Friedland]

knew where the bodies were buried.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, for sure.

[Adam Friedland]

And Adam Silver is more like a company man.

[Mark Cuban]

No, no, they're both the same. They're both very, very smart.

[Adam Friedland]

They're both murderers.

[Mark Cuban]

No, they're both. But, you know, they make more. The more the league thrives, the more they get paid. But I think both of them, David and Adam really, truly want to see the NBA succeed. And as much as they try to protect it, it's just you're dealing with 20, you know, 450, 485, you know, 20, 18 to 25 or 18 to 40 year olds. Right. You're just get that many guys together, things are going to fuck up somewhere.

[Adam Friedland]

Are the refs, like, just. Is it bullshit?

[Mark Cuban]

I think the refs try their hardest. I never had a problem with the refs, per se.

[Adam Friedland]

Who's the biggest dickhead? Who's your worst?

[Mark Cuban]

The dickheads are the ones that, man. That are the management of.

[Adam Friedland]

What about Scott?

[Mark Cuban]

Scott Foster? Yeah, I got along with Scott Foster, right. I would give him shit, you know, and he would yell at me back or whatever. But I never really had Chris Paul.

[Adam Friedland]

Right.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, he definitely hates. He's got a lot of guys. Yeah, right. But the problem was always the people who managed them. They were the idiots. They had no clue what they were doing. They still don't know what they're doing.

[Adam Friedland]

Yes. So, like, I've watched your podcast with Pablo. I guess we'll close on this because we have two minutes so we can

[Mark Cuban]

go a little bit later.

[Adam Friedland]

Amazing. He's having the best time ever. It was plausible that it's like Steve Ballmer is successful and he as he is. It's kind of stupid to write a check for 10 bucks to a company and then they write a check for 10 bucks. To Kawhi Leonard. Right. Like. Like, drug dealers are better at, like, much better kind of washing money than. Right. But like, there is an aspect of it is like if it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck or whatever the.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, but if. You know the NBA. See, that's what I would tell Paul Pablo, right? If you. If you've been through all the shit and how it works.

[Adam Friedland]

Taylor, of course.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With Joe Smith. Yeah. But it just. It didn't make any sense to me, that's all. And I've been in situations where I've invested in companies that turned out to be scams and I didn't know it, so I got that part, you know, And I've been in situations where I

[Adam Friedland]

read somewhere you lost $590 million on Shark Tank. Is that true?

[Mark Cuban]

No. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

The Wall Street Journal.

[Mark Cuban]

Yo. Beatbox Beverages, though, just my Shark Tank company. Bought a third of it for a million dollars. Just sold the Budweiser for 600 motherfucking million dollars.

[Adam Friedland]

Let's give it up for that. Beatbox Beverages.

[Mark Cuban]

Beatbox guys are good.

[Adam Friedland]

Sounds like a thing that an adult drinks, not a child, after a long day at school. Wait, can I ask you about. So. So let's go back to the Ballmer thing. Like, I guess the league had to wait for All Star to investigate it, right?

[Mark Cuban]

No, I'm sure they're investigating it now and have been. And it says something that it wasn't obvious because they haven't done anything yet. And even with Pablo, when he came out with new stuff, right? I mean, even. He'll tell you there were no smoking guns. There was just, you know, you could. Like you said, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck.

[Adam Friedland]

He never did one endorsement anything.

[Mark Cuban]

But they tried to use him for that stuff. Right? But on the flip side, they never paid out the full contract that they promised him.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, but like, he got paid, like, the next highest endorsement was like $25.

[Mark Cuban]

He's Kawhi Leonard.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. He's the least charismatic NBA superstar.

[Mark Cuban]

No, he's so understated, I think it's hysterical.

[Adam Friedland]

Have you seen that clip of him talking about spongebob?

[Mark Cuban]

No, I have not.

[Adam Friedland]

Oh, my God, you got to see this dude. Who's your biggest miss? Like, who did you miss on, like, what players you wish you got?

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, there's so many of them. Like, Tyrese Maxey was a big mix miss for us recently, you know, Greek freak was probably the biggest Stravas. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

You know.

[Mark Cuban]

Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

This is Funny. Dude, you got to see this spongebob starting because he just wild. You gonna get it. Get it. Started for it. Scooby Doo. Second, I need him to figure out what's going on.

[Mark Cuban]

This guy's got entertainment chops. I don't care what anybody says.

[Adam Friedland]

Peter's funny.

[Mark Cuban]

When he retires, he's the next trade.

[Adam Friedland]

Peter Griffin.

[Mark Cuban]

When he retires, he's the next Blake Griffin.

[Adam Friedland]

No, I mean, we know and is. The Ant is pretty cool. He's gonna win an Academy Award.

[Mark Cuban]

Ant was talking so much to me. I love Ant.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you see? He was talking shit to Obama.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, I know, which is great for you.

[Adam Friedland]

The president, he's like, I would kill you. One on one. I would snatch your soul. That's what he said. Yeah. Was there ever a call for an investigation after the LUCA trade? Like, did anyone?

[Mark Cuban]

I don't know, because I was. I was out of it. You governor by then? Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Very convenient.

[Mark Cuban]

Very, very convenient.

[Adam Friedland]

Very convenient. Do you miss it? You want?

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, sometimes I do.

[Adam Friedland]

When?

[Mark Cuban]

When we do stupid, like the LUCA

[Adam Friedland]

tea back from Israel, dude, they're like, yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

I mean, I miss it because I think the fans have gotten let down, and I think because I kind of let them down. So that's. That's what bothers me most.

[Adam Friedland]

I mean, like, I was a little suspicious when they got A.D. i love A.D. but Chris Middleton, finally they've made it right. They got someone better.

[Mark Cuban]

You know what? Sometimes you got to go full circle.

[Adam Friedland]

Jesus Christ, man.

[Mark Cuban]

I love Chris, too.

[Adam Friedland]

That was 23. Three years of your work.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

And then sometimes it's time to move on, and then someone just it up it up immediately.

[Mark Cuban]

But, you know, it was. As much as I loved it and as much as I still love the Mavs. Always be a Mavs fan. Sometimes there's bigger things to do.

[Adam Friedland]

So you don't care about the maps? No, I love the city of Dallas. You just like the big ladies. That's it.

[Mark Cuban]

Big.

[Adam Friedland]

What is. Okay, I'm gonna ask you about a quiz. What. What these companies do. What's Clima Cl.

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, that was an old crypto thing.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah. What do they do?

[Mark Cuban]

They do. They do the same thing as aspiration. Does. Yeah, they do carbon credits. For real? They do carbon credits.

[Adam Friedland]

What is Yendo?

[Mark Cuban]

Yendo lets you borrow money against a car, against a car, against a car. So, like, if you have no credit and you. You've got, like, $2,000 in equity and a beater that you've had, and you need $500 to pay the Rent, we'll loan you. They'll loan you the money on it.

[Adam Friedland]

On your payday, perhaps, maybe whenever it is. What's Moolah?

[Mark Cuban]

Mula Kicks. So that's women's basketball sneakers. They're badass basketball sneakers. Yeah. Moolah Kicks dot com. Check them out. Moolah Kicks for girls basketball.

[Adam Friedland]

What's foam party hats?

[Mark Cuban]

Oh, they just got sold. It's a bank. Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Friedland]

Do you ever forget that you have an investment, something?

[Mark Cuban]

No. Yeah, because I. If you go to Mark Cuban dot com, I list them all. And so I'm like, is this one of my companies? I sent an email today to somebody like, is this one of ours? Are we still in this thing? So, like, there's some like. What was that one company?

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah, one of your companies is a swimming pool in. In a truck?

[Mark Cuban]

No, that guy. I did it because he was in the air force flying jets. Yeah. And so I thought it was a fun idea. And I like the idea of being in a truck. Right. Drinking a couple beers in my swimming pool, my truck bed. But that company kind of got put on hold and we're looking at having one of the guys who worked for us, his brother, take it over.

[Adam Friedland]

There is like souring attitude nationally. Like, it was always kind of like a. Like a, like a lefty commie thing to be like the corporations. But like, I think post Covid, like now people on the right are like, fuck the corporations. Right?

[Mark Cuban]

Everybody fuck the corporation.

[Adam Friedland]

There's a souring attitude to today nationally. And do you think, like, does is that felt amongst, you know, people that are in the business world? Like, is that like.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, if you're smart.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

Right. Because you're starting to see people rebel against the disparity in wealth, the wealth gap. Right. And if people are. The worst thing possible for business is when people are rioting or, you know, civil disobedience, whatever it may be to keep people from going into your store or doing business with you. People pay attention. Now, they didn't necessarily pay attention before, but, you know, if you're not. If you're not a. If you don't show some compassion as a capitalist, it's going to backfire on you.

[Adam Friedland]

You don't have enough money to buy crap that you don't need also. That's probably bad.

[Mark Cuban]

No, I mean, you got to pay the bills. The. Which.

[Adam Friedland]

How big are these foam party hats?

[Mark Cuban]

They're really big.

[Adam Friedland]

Barbara wearing one in the casket. Yes.

[Mark Cuban]

Yes, it would fit. No, they were like literally these big foam hats that were pretty Funny.

[Adam Friedland]

If I ever get to a place, like, in life where I need to get a group together to maybe buy, like, a, like, third division soccer team in England. Sam. I may as well ask the dream.

[Mark Cuban]

The dream.

[Adam Friedland]

And then do that thing that, like, Van Wilder did.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, Wrexham. Like, Wrexham.

[Adam Friedland]

Would you like.

[Mark Cuban]

Yeah, I talked to you about it for sure.

[Adam Friedland]

Yeah.

[Mark Cuban]

I mean, actually, it wouldn't be a bad idea if you went over there, right?

[Adam Friedland]

No, no, I have to be here at my Jewish long form. Oh, that fucks up YouTube styles. No, I'm going to go over there. I'm going to be in the owner's box. I'm going to be fucking taking shots with the guys in the village that eat, like, the disgusting food I'm having.

[Mark Cuban]

I get offered teams like that all the time. You can do it just, like, how

[Adam Friedland]

much is one of those teams?

[Mark Cuban]

I mean, a couple million dollars on the lower levels, and then you work your way.

[Adam Friedland]

Nothing. To us. To us.

[Mark Cuban]

Nothing. A rounding error.

[Adam Friedland]

Just let me just load. Load me, please.

[Mark Cuban]

Get on your knees.

[Adam Friedland]

You're not. Kevin.

[Mark Cuban]

That was a blast. Thank you. That was so much fun. Yeah, that was a lot of fun.