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Most advisors know they should be creating content, but the second equipment, editing, and keywords enter the conversation, the whole idea gets shelved. This week on Advisor's Fuel, Adam sits down with Kyle Andree, a podcast strategist and producer who has spent the years since 2018 helping business owners and financial advisors launch and grow shows through his company, In-House Podcasts. Kyle breaks down the one question every advisor needs to answer before they hit record, why most podcasts fade out around episode 30, and how to choose a format and cadence that actually fits a practice instead of someone else's playbook. Whether you're thinking about launching your first show, trying to fix one that's stalled, or just want to build trust faster than a newsletter or social post ever could, this conversation is packed with practical insight you can use right now. Episode Timestamps 00:00 — Intro: how Kyle got into podcast production 05:00 — Why "what's your why" is step one before you hit record 08:00 — A good podcast why vs. a bad one (the optometrist example) 13:00 — The biggest mistake advisors make when launching a podcast 16:00 — What to check when a podcast isn't growing 21:00 — Solo, interview, or co-hosted: picking the right format 27:00 — How to actually work with a producer like Kyle Key Takeaways 💡 If you can't say why you want a podcast, you're not ready to hit record. 💡 A podcast built for status fades fast. One built to share real expertise doesn't. 💡 Podcasting builds a closeness with your audience that a newsletter or social post can't touch. 💡 Advisors who over-invest in equipment before they're committed usually end up with expensive gear that sits unused. 💡 Pod fade hits around episode 30. Get past it and your odds of sticking with the show go up dramatically. 💡 The best podcast format and frequency is the one you'll actually repeat every single week. Key Quotes 🗣 "If you can't tell me a why, I would ask you to go back and think about that why." — Kyle Andree 🗣 "The authenticity you get from a 30 or 60 minute podcast conversation goes a lot further than a curated Instagram picture or a well written newsletter." — Kyle Andree 🗣 "The best podcast frequency is the one you're gonna use and the one you're gonna stick to." — Adam Koós Connect With the Kyle Andree Website: https://www.inhousepods.com/ Strategy Call Requests: https://www.inhousepods.com/form-page Email: KyleAndree89@gmail.com Follow Adrenaline Advisor Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: www.adrenalineadvisor.com Connect With Adam Koós Adam Koós, CFP, CMT, CFTe, CEPA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com

Adam Koós welcomes back John and Jack Kosar of Asbury Research for their quarterly market check-in, and this one covers a lot of ground. They dig into why markets climb slowly and fall fast, what the current shift out of tech and into industrials, financials, and healthcare is really telling us, and why a repeatable, back-tested model beats reacting to whatever's on CNBC that day. Whether you're fielding client calls about volatility or building your own talking points for the next correction, this conversation is packed with the kind of practical, data-driven perspective advisors can put to work right away. Episode Timestamps 00:00 – Adam welcomes back John and Jack Kosar of Asbury Research for their quarterly check-in 01:00 – Why markets move at different speeds going up versus going down, and the case against shorting 05:00 – Reading the S&P's triangle breakout and what a healthy broadening market looks like 09:00 – The 200-day moving average and reading a market at an inflection point 14:00 – Where the money is rotating: industrials, financials, and healthcare 18:00 – Why breaking a tested model mid-year to chase risk is a dangerous road 22:00 – Cutting through the noise with a data-driven, back-tested plan 25:00 – Coaching clients to turn off the news and actually enjoy their money 29:00 – Inside the Correction Protection Model (CPM) and its 15-year track record 32:00 – Final takeaways: every correction starts with a pullback Key Takeaways 💡 Markets tend to climb slowly and drop fast, which is exactly why chasing a short is a much harder trade than most advisors think. 💡 The 200-day moving average is a simple gut check on trend. Cracking below it has lined up with real trouble before. 💡 Right now the rotation out of tech and into industrials, financials, and healthcare points to a market getting more defensive, not one that's about to fall apart. 💡 A repeatable, back-tested model beats reacting to headlines, and breaking that model mid-year to chase performance is a dangerous habit. 💡 Every correction starts with a pullback, and every crash starts with a correction, so the plan has to exist before clients start calling. 💡 Clients don't need to beat the market. Most just want smaller drawdowns and a good night's sleep, and that's a conversation advisors can have today. Key Quotes 🗣 "Nothing good happens below the 200-day moving average." 🗣 "Every correction starts with a pullback, and every crash starts with a correction." 🗣 "The market goes up like an LP, and it goes down like a 45." Connect With the Guests Website: www.asburyresearch.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@asburyresearch John Kosar LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjkosar/ Email: john@asburyresearch.com Jack Kosar LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-kosar/ Email: jack@asburyresearch.com Follow Adrenaline Advisor Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: www.adrenalineadvisor.com Connect with Adam Koós Adam Koós, CFP, CMT, CFTe, CEPA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com

Part 2 of a four-part series on working with the wealthiest segment of the population, business owners. In Part 1 Adam covered how to start the exit planning conversation and get owners to the table. This one is about the thing every owner needs whether you're doing exit planning or not: a real financial plan for the owner and their spouse. Adam is taking you through our process at the office, meeting by meeting. The discovery meeting that runs two to two and a half hours, sometimes longer. The education meeting where we stop asking and start teaching. The planning meeting where we build the cash flow and then break it on purpose. The six-week follow-up. And the Safe Haven Kit, which might be my favorite part of the whole thing. If you've never done planning in your practice, or you do it but want a cleaner process, this episode is for you. Episode Timestamps 00:00 - Intro and the four-part series 01:00 - Why every owner needs a plan (the business is ~80% of net worth) 02:00 - The discovery meeting, and why it runs so long 04:00 - Soft questions first, numbers last, and a 90%+ conversion rate 05:00 - The education meeting: teaching investing and the risk assessment 07:00 - The financial planning meeting and cash flow analysis 08:00 - Breaking the plan on purpose with stress tests 09:00 - Ancillary advice: income, tax, estate and insurance 11:00 - The six-week follow-up and how they run review meetings 12:00 - The Safe Haven Kit, start to finish 15:00 - How Adrenaline started (the Leo story) Key Takeaways 💡 The discovery meeting is the longest one they run, two to two and a half hours and sometimes more, with no forms sent ahead and no shortcuts. Soft questions come first, the numbers come near the end. That process converts north of 90%. 💡 For most owners the business is around 80% of their net worth, so it has to live inside the plan as an asset. Value it conservatively, because owners almost always guess high. 💡 The risk assessment measures what a client wants. The plan output tells you what they need. The whole job is getting those two to line up. 💡 Once a plan looks good, break it on purpose. Push expenses up, pull the retirement date in, and show the client how much room they actually have. 💡 The Safe Haven Kit gets a client's whole financial house into one place, documents, passwords, an encrypted vault, and gives the executor access with one switch when the worst happens. Key Quotes 🗣 "A dream without a plan is just a wish." 🗣 "We're not going to use this risk assessment to determine how we invest your money. That's what the financial plan output is for." 🗣 "Okay, your financial plan looks great. Now let's break it." Follow Adrenaline Advisor Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: www.adrenalineadvisor.com Connect With Adam Koós LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com

Your business owner clients are the biggest bottleneck in their own company, and, if you run your own practice, I'm sure you can relate to them. They're answering phones, managing schedules, doing $20-an-hour tasks - and wondering why growth feels so hard. This week on Advisor's Fuel, Adam sits down with Tiffany Helton, an operational scaling and profit strategy expert who has spent 15+ years helping founder-led businesses get out of their own way. Tiffany breaks down exactly what founder dependency looks like, why most businesses aren't sellable (or even transferable), and what it actually takes to build a company that runs without you. Whether you're a financial advisor working with business owner clients, a CEPA helping clients think through exit strategy and enterprise value, or needing better operational systems in your own firm, this conversation is packed with practical insight you can use right now. Episode Timestamps 00:00 - Intro: Meet Tiffany Helton, operational scaling and profit strategy expert 02:30 - What happens when you actually reach the self-managing company goal 10:00 - Founder dependency: what it is and how to know if you have it 15:00 - The four Ds - death, divorce, disability, disagreements - and why you have to plan now 19:00 - Adam's BTEP framework: Business Transition and Exit Planning 20:30 - Why exit planning is the answer even if you're not selling for 15 years 24:00 - Profitability vs. revenue: why growing top-line isn't enough 28:00 - Clean books, zero forecasts, and the $523/hour exercise 31:00 - Delegation vs. operational leadership: there's a real difference 38:00 - Where to start if you want more freedom - and the house-staging analogy Key Takeaways 💡 Founder dependency isn't a personality flaw - almost every business owner ends up here. The question is whether you fix it before it costs you. 💡 If you removed yourself from your business tomorrow, would it survive? That's the real test. If the answer is no, that's your starting point. 💡 Most businesses aren't sellable because they're too owner-dependent. Buyers don't want to buy a job - they want to buy a system. 💡 Growing revenue doesn't automatically mean growing profit. Look at margins, budgets, and especially your labor percentage. 💡 Only about 20-30% of businesses have clean, organized books. Even fewer have a three-year financial forecast. Those gaps are where value gets left on the table. 💡 Exit planning isn't just for sellers. If you implement it early, you get a more profitable, less chaotic business right now - and exponentially more value when you do sell. 💡 Delegation is giving tasks away. Operational leadership is teaching your team to think like an owner. Both matter, but they're not the same thing. 💡 Every owner should be able to answer: does my business actually support my personal financial goals? Most can't. Key Quotes 🗣 "If I remove you from your business, what happens? Because if the answer is it falls apart - that's the problem, and that's exactly what buyers see too." - Tiffany Helton 🗣 "80% of businesses don't sell. They dissolve. And 80% of business owners' net worth is in their company. Those two facts together should terrify every owner who hasn't started planning." - Adam Koos 🗣 "Everybody can work on growing net profit - not just revenue. I don't care if you're a $10 million business or a million-dollar business." - Tiffany Helton 🗣 "Exit planning is simply taking you from wherever you are today to wherever you want to be. In some cases, that's just more profit, better margins, and less owner dependency." - Adam Koos 🗣 "Fix it while you're living in it. Don't wait for the realtor to tell you what needs to be done before you do it." - Tiffany Helton Who This Episode Is For Financial advisors who work with business owner clients and want a deeper understanding of operational readiness and exit timing CEPAs (Certified Exit Planning Advisors) looking for practical frameworks around founder dependency, enterprise value, and operational improvements that drive business value Business owners in any stage who feel stuck, overwhelmed, or uncertain about how to grow without burning out Advisors who want to add more value to their business owner relationships by understanding the operational side of exit planning Connect With the Guest Name: Tiffany Helton, Cultivate Advisors Email: tiffany@cultivateadvisors.com Website: https://cultivateadvisors.com/our-advisors/tiffany-helton/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffany-helton-a0239b8/ Follow Adrenaline Advisor Facebook - facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram - instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads - threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn - linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting TikTok - tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube - youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website - adrenalineadvisor.com Connect with Adam Koos, CFP, CMT, CEPA LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website - adrenalineadvisor.com

Most advisors are getting their market intel from the same three TV networks that make money every time you stay glued to the screen. John and Jack Kosar of Asbury Research don't work that way. They follow the data. In this episode, the three of us dig into what the market is actually doing right now - not what the headlines say it's doing. We talk about breadth, sector rotation, bond yields, the Mag 7 concentration debate, the AI bubble question, and what you should actually be saying to nervous clients this quarter. John's been doing this for over 40 years. Jack brings the institutional translation layer that makes it actionable. If you've ever felt like the financial media is working against your clients, this one's for you. Episode Timestamps 00:00 - Intro & guest background: John and Jack Kosar of Asbury Research 02:30 - Reading the current tape: S&P fresh highs, breadth, and what's really leading 07:30 - Sector rotation deep-dive: what's quietly winning and what's losing steam 11:30 - Bond yields and the inflation signal the market can't ignore 15:30 - The Mag 7 concentration debate: fragile market or media narrative? 19:30 - Why forecasting is just guessing dressed up in a suit - and what to do instead 23:30 - AI bubble vs. dot-com: the real difference this time around 26:30 - Preparing for the next big correction: what 2022 taught us 29:30 - One piece of advice for advisors sitting across from nervous clients Key Takeaways 💡 The parts of the market that should be leading - NASDAQ, semiconductors, Mag 7 - are leading. When the data lines up that cleanly, tune out the noise. 💡 Drawdown analysis is one of the most underused tools in an advisor's kit. When the market sells off, that's exactly when you should be studying what's holding up - because that's what you want to own on the way back. 💡 Bond yields near multi-year highs are a signal from the bond market that inflation is real, regardless of what any talking head says. The bond market doesn't lie. 💡 Market timing and trend-following are not the same thing. Nobody is trying to predict the future - they're following the money. There's a big difference. 💡 The 'stay invested always' narrative benefits fund companies, not your clients. The best days and worst days in the market tend to cluster together during high-volatility periods. 💡 Asbury's blend of their sector rotation model (CIF) and correction protection model (CPM) was up 8.6% in 2022 - a year the S&P was down nearly 20%. 💡 If you're worried about clients missing 'the best days,' make sure they're also prepared to survive the worst ones. They tend to show up together. Notable Quotes 🗣 "The business is way too tilted toward forecasting. Forecasting is a euphemism for guessing. It gets you on TV. It gets your clients excited maybe. But I make more money and I sleep better at night just following the models." - John Kosar 🗣 "The messaging that goes out to investors is really tilted toward: just give me your money and shut up and I'll send you an electronic birthday card once a year. And I think we could do better than that." - Adam Koos 🗣 "Clients want to know that you have a plan - and that you're going to do something about it if the market starts to go sideways. You don't have to be a market technician. You just have to be open-minded enough to look at options that are tested and proven." - Jack Kosar 🗣 "Follow the money. The money is the boss. If you can figure out a way to track where the money is going in a comprehensive way, you don't need forecasts." - John Kosar Resources & Links Mentioned Asbury Research - rules-based market analysis firm founded in 2005, offering SMAs on the Schwab platform and model portfolios available on advisor TAMPs. Interested in adding Asbury's models to your TAMP or learning more about their SMAs on Schwab? Reach out directly to John or Jack via the links below. Connect with Asbury Research Website: www.asburyresearch.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@asburyresearch John Kosar LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjkosar/ Email: john@asburyresearch.com Jack Kosar LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-kosar/ Email: jack@asburyresearch.com Follow Adrenaline Advisor Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: www.adrenalineadvisor.com Connect with Adam Koos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com

If you want to work with the wealthiest and most underserved segment of the population, this episode is your starting point. In Part 1 of this 4-part series, Adam Koos breaks down exactly why business owners represent the biggest opportunity in financial advising today -- and more importantly, how to start that conversation the right way. From eye-opening statistics to the specific talking points that make owners nod their heads, this episode gives you a practical, repeatable framework for sitting down with any business owner and immediately adding value. Episode Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome & series overview 01:30 - Why business owners are the wealthiest, most underserved segment 02:30 - The baby boomer exit wave: $14 trillion in business value 04:00 - The 3 shocking stats that start every owner conversation 06:00 - What to say when you first sit down with a business owner 09:00 - Adam's personal story: what's at stake for every business owner 10:30 - The follow-up framework: what owners are missing (and what resonates) 13:00 - What advisors can actually do to move the needle 15:30 - Introducing Adrenaline Advisor & the Talking Points newsletter Key Takeaways: 💡 80% of owners' net worth is tied up in the business -- not investments, not savings. That one stat will get any owner's attention immediately. 💡 80% of companies never sell. They dissolve. That means most owners stand to lose most of their net worth without a proactive exit plan. 💡 You don't need to have completed a business exit to start the conversation. The statistics and the follow-up framework do the heavy lifting for you. 💡 Most owners are missing the same things: an updated estate plan, a continuity plan, documented processes, organized financials, and clarity on what their business needs to be worth to make work optional. 💡 Your job as the advisor is to quarterback the process -- not do everything yourself. COIs and strategic partners carry much of the execution. Key Quotes: 🗣 "The wealthiest segment of the population in the United States is business owners -- and they're also the most underserved." 🗣 "80% of companies never sell. They dissolve. And those owners lose 80% of their net worth." 🗣 "75% of owners surveyed a year after they sell deeply regret selling -- because they didn't have a plan for what life looked like after." 🗣 "When you install an exit plan, you'll find yourself working less, making more money, and having a company that's actually worth something." Connect With Adam Koos: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com Follow Adrenaline Advisor: Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com

In this episode of Advisor's Fuel Podcast, Adam sits down with Bill Woods, co-founder and CMO of Fifty Marketing and host of The Missing Half podcast, for a candid, high-value conversation on what growth-minded businesses consistently get wrong about marketing, and how fixing those gaps can do more than drive revenue. It can materially increase the value of the business you've built. For financial advisors, this conversation goes deeper than marketing. Whether you're a practice owner who may sell someday, an advisor focused on succession planning, or a Exit Planning Institute professional helping business-owner clients prepare for exit, the lessons in this episode are directly applicable. Bill brings more than 20 years of B2B marketing expertise and hands-on M&A experience, and he shares practical insights on building a business buyers want, creating more transferable value, and avoiding the common growth mistakes that suppress valuation. Whether your goal is to scale faster, improve profitability, increase your firm's multiple, or better advise business-owner clients, this episode delivers frameworks you can put to work immediately. Episode Timestamps 00:00 - Intro & Adam's take on why marketing strategy is the missing piece for most advisors and business owners 01:00 - Guest intro: Bill Woods, Fifty Marketing, and the Missing Half podcast 03:00 - The biggest marketing mistakes B2B business owners make - and why strategy beats tactics every time 05:00 - Voice of customer: why it's no longer a nice-to-have and how to build it into your process 06:30 - What the 'missing half' actually is - the gap in B2B marketing most owners never see 08:00 - Why 100 views on a niche B2B video might be worth millions (and why D2C metrics mislead you) 09:30 - What's changed in 20+ years of marketing - and what surprisingly still works 14:00 - The return of direct mail - and why Bill's agency changed their playbook 16:00 - Branding for business owners: brand promise vs. brand aspiration - and why mixing them up costs you 19:00 - AI in B2B marketing: where it actually creates value, and where the hype outpaces reality 22:00 - Marketing ROI: the patience problem and why B2B buying cycles demand a different mindset 25:00 - Fifty Marketing's content strategy - personal branding for founders and why most competitors aren't doing it 28:00 - Native posting vs. scheduling tools: the algorithm truth that could be hurting your reach right now 31:00 - The one piece of marketing advice for every business owner planning to scale and exit Key Takeaways 💡 Strategy first, always. The biggest marketing mistake isn't a bad channel - it's no clear strategy. Owners who skip this step waste money at scale. 💡 Voice of customer isn't optional. Building products and marketing campaigns without consistent customer feedback is the fastest way to generate zero ROI on big investment. 💡 B2B metrics are not D2C metrics. Stop comparing your niche content to MrBeast. 100 targeted views on a long-cycle B2B product could represent millions in pipeline. 💡 Brand promise vs. brand aspiration is a critical distinction. Your promise is what you can deliver today. Selling your aspiration as your promise creates a customer experience disconnect that kills trust. 💡 Native posting beats scheduling tools. LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok all penalize third-party posting - sometimes by 20-30% or more. Post natively, especially for personal branding content. 💡 Personal branding drives outsized B2B results. In Bill's competitive analysis, fewer than 10% of competitors had a leader doing consistent personal branding. That gap is an opportunity right now. 💡 A repeatable marketing engine changes your exit multiple. Buyers want predictable, scalable systems - not just a good product. Build the marketing machine before you need to sell it. 💡 Patience is a competitive advantage. Marketing for B2B requires showing up consistently over long buying cycles. The advisors and business owners who stay the course win. Key Quotes 🗣 "If you have a repeatable, scalable, and predictable marketing and sales engine, you are going to attract a completely different pool of buyers and a completely different multiple range." 🗣 "Marketing is simple - but it's hard. It's simple to have a great strategy. It's hard to execute it consistently over time." 🗣 "Voice of customer isn't a nice-to-have anymore. It is a have-to-have - consistently." 🗣 "If you get a hundred views on a piece of niche B2B content, and fifty of those represent buyers with 20-million-dollar buying cycles - where's the ceremony? That is a huge win." 🗣 "Your brand promise is what you can deliver today. You cannot communicate your brand aspiration as your brand promise, or you're going to have a disconnect with your customer experience." 🗣 "If you're humble enough to work on what's in front of you today - the small, incremental steps - that's what actually gets you to the exit you're envisioning ten years from now." Connect With Bill Woods Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMissingHalfPodcast Agency Website: 50marketing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/50-marketing/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/50marketing/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/50Marketing/ Email: bw@50marketing.com Follow Adrenaline Advisor Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com Connect With Adam Koos LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com

What happens when a family does everything right - saves diligently, works with advisors, builds real wealth - and still ends up in court? It's not a hypothetical. It happens every day. And in most cases, it was 100% preventable. In this episode of Advisor's Fuel, Adam Koos sits down with Professor Kelly Lise Murray - attorney, mediator, legal scholar, and host of the Wealth Litigated podcast - to break down the real-world estate planning disasters that land families in expensive, emotionally devastating litigation. Kelly spent nearly two decades teaching law at Vanderbilt University before shifting her focus to wealth dispute resolution full-time. She covers real courtroom cases involving trusts, estates, divorces, prenuptial agreements, and family wealth conflicts - what she calls 'all the drama of true crime without the blood.' This episode is required listening for any advisor who wants to know what can go wrong - and how to help clients avoid it. Episode Timestamps 00:00 - Intro & guest background 03:00 - Why estate planning failures lead to litigation (and why advisors should care) 06:00 - Blended families, second marriages & the #1 estate planning mistake 08:00 - Real case: Marinakis v. Marinakis - siblings sue over a $10M estate 11:00 - California case: When a stepchild inherits as a natural child 14:00 - The Garn St. Germaine Act & what advisors miss about irrevocable trusts 17:00 - Trustee abuse cases: when the people you trust most cause the most damage 22:00 - Co-trustees, trust protectors & structural safeguards to prevent disputes 27:00 - The $800,000 unchecked box: Estate of Griffin v. IRS 30:00 - Prenuptial agreements: what makes them hold up in court - and what doesn't 33:00 - Portability problems: why moving states can invalidate your clients' plans 35:00 - Incapacity planning & what happens when the wrong person holds the healthcare directive 36:00 - The one question every advisor should ask in every review meeting 37:00 - Where to find Kelly & the Wealth Litigated podcast Key Takeaways 💡 The #1 estate planning mistake in blended families: failing to update documents before and after remarriage. A new spouse automatically has elective share rights that can override your will. 💡 Coordination is everything. Legal documents, beneficiary designations, and financial plans must work together - or the courts will decide how they interact. 💡 A missed checkbox on an estate tax return cost the Griffin estate $800,000+. Two sets of eyes on every execution detail is non-negotiable. 💡 A prenuptial agreement only works if it's executed correctly. A lawyer who drafts his own prenup, presented the day before the wedding, got it thrown out by the Ohio courts. 💡 If a client says 'my spouse will just control everything when I'm gone,' that's your cue - not to judge, but to introduce structural safeguards like co-trustees, trust protectors, and contingent beneficiaries. 💡 Estate plans are not portable across state lines. Clients who move need a full legal review of all lifecycle documents in their new state. Key Quotes 🗣"It's not a matter of if - it's when you get involved in some sort of litigation." 🗣"Coordination - the lack of coordination - leads to litigation." 🗣"I don't advise that you estate plan in a box. Go online and don't ask AI what to do with your estate plan. You really do need non-hallucinated knowledge of the cases in your state." 🗣"Frame it as structural support - not a condemnation of their financial budgeting abilities. It's a structure to prevent litigation, which would deplete the estate." 🗣"The number one most procrastinated financial planning item is estate planning. Without a doubt." Cases Referenced in this Episode: Marinakis v. Marinakis (Ohio) - blended family estate dispute California stepchild inheritance case - definition of 'natural parent' Estate of Griffin v. Commissioner (IRS) - Q-TIP trust / unchecked box Ohio prenuptial agreement case - overreaching by attorney-spouse Texas trustee abuse case - disabled beneficiary trust mismanagement Connect With the Guest Wealth Litigated Website: https://wealthlitigated.com Vetting the House: https://www.vettingthehouse.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kellylisemurray Email: prof.murray@vettingthehouse.com Follow Adrenaline Advisor Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: www.adrenalineadvisor.com Connect with Adam Koós LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com

In this episode, Adam uses March Madness to break down a lesson every financial advisor can appreciate: most people want to win, but very few are willing to prepare to win. Using the NCAA tournament as a framework, he shows why excitement, prediction, and long-shot thinking often lead people in the wrong direction. Whether they're filling out a bracket or building a retirement portfolio. This is a sharp, practical episode about probabilities, discipline, momentum, and why higher-probability decisions matter more than getting lucky once. For advisors and investors alike, the message is clear: sustainable outcomes are built on process, not prediction. Episode Timestamps: 00:00 – March Madness, busted brackets, and why people still play anyway 01:00 – Seeding, probabilities, and why the higher-ranked teams usually win 02:00 – The data behind top seeds, championship trends, and bracket reality 03:00 – What bracket strategy teaches us about investing discipline 04:00 – Why people chase Cinderella stories and ignore the real drivers of outcomes 05:00 – Trend following vs. trend predicting in portfolio management 06:00 – Building retirement portfolios on probabilities instead of surprises 07:00 – Final takeaway: retirement isn't a game, and discipline matters Key Takeaways: 💡 Most people are drawn to exciting long shots, but outcomes are usually driven by high-probability decisions, not unlikely upsets. 💡 In both brackets and portfolios, discipline beats prediction. Adam emphasizes the importance of following strength, momentum, and repeatable processes instead of trying to guess what will happen next. 💡 A winning retirement strategy should not be built around "Cinderella stories." It should be built around probabilities, trend strength, and intentional decision-making over time. Key Quotes: 🗣 "Most people have the will to win, but few have the will to prepare to win." 🗣 "We are trend followers, not trend predictors." 🗣 "We don't build portfolios on surprises. We build them on probabilities and repeatable outcomes." 🗣 "Retirement isn't a game." Follow Adrenaline Advisor: Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor Email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: www.adrenalineadvisor.com Connect with Adam Koós: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com

Is your advisory team underperforming or is your system setting them up to fail? In this episode, Adam Koós sits down with Matt Granados, founder of Life Pulse, Inc., to challenge conventional thinking about motivation, productivity, and team performance. Matt has worked with organizations like Google, Twitter, and the US Air Force, helping them move from high-performance burnout to optimal, sustainable success. For financial advisors drowning in people problems, reactive workflows, and inefficient systems, this conversation offers a roadmap to reclaim your time, increase productivity by 10-15 hours per week, and build a team that bridges the gap back to you not the other way around. If you're spending more time babysitting your staff than serving clients, this episode is for you. Episode Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro & Matt Granados background 03:00 – Your team isn't broken, your system is 10:00 – High performance vs. optimal performance 20:00 – Burnout is a design flaw, not a workload issue 30:00 – Sustainable growth & the 20-mile march principle Key Takeaways: 💡 Your team isn't broken—your system is. People problems are symptoms of systemic issues. Fix the root cause, not the symptom, and your team will naturally perform better. 💡 Burnout is preventable, not fixable. The average person operates at only 40% capacity. With intentional planning and structure, you can double output without burning out. 💡 Money isn't a motivator. Bonuses under 10% of annual income (post-tax) lose impact by the next paycheck. Instead, create personalized motivational packages tied to what your people actually value. Key Quotes: 🗣 "Your job is to be a firm foundation. Your team's job is to bridge the gap back to you—not the other way around." 🗣 "Are you babysitting or managing? Managing means ensuring others do their job. Babysitting means doing it for them." 🗣 "Every high performer burns out. It's not sustainable. What you need is optimal performance—same high output, but at a sustainable pace." Connect With Matt Granados: Website: https://www.lifepulseinc.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/life-pulse-inc/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LifePulseInc Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifepulseinc/ Podcast: https://www.lifepulseinc.com/podcast Episode Resources: https://www.lifepulseinc.com/afp Follow Adrenaline Advisor: Facebook: https://facebook.com/adrenalineadvisorconsulting Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adrenaline.advisor Threads: https://www.threads.com/@adrenaline.advisor LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/adrenaline-advisor-consulting/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@adrenalineadvisor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdrenalineAdvisor email: info@adrenalineadvisor.com Website: www.adrenalineadvisor.com Connect with Adam Koós: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamkoos Website: https://www.adrenalineadvisor.com #AdvisorProductivity #PracticeManagement #TeamPerformance #AdvisorBurnout #FinancialAdvisors #LeadershipForAdvisors #AdvisorGrowth