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The Archers Omnibus
19/01/2025
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The verdict is in for Kirsty, and emotions run high at Beechwood.
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Chad Stout
This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the uk. Hi, I'm Chad Stout and I'm a registered professional forester in California. Growing up, I was always in the woods and I've just always had a passion for that. Now I'm passionate about growing a sustainable working forest. What makes a working forest sustainable is growing more than what we harvest and managing those forests to promote health. We're looking 80 to 100 years down the road. The forest that I'm working on is for my kids. Kids learn more@workingforceinitiative.com World of Secrets is where untold stories are exposed. And in this new series, we investigate the dark side of the wellness industry, following the story of a woman who joined a yoga school only to uncover a world she never expected. I feel that I have no other choice. The only thing I can do is to speak about this, where the hope of spiritual breakthroughs leaves people vulnerable to exploitation. You just get sucked in so grass gradually and it's done so skillfully that you don't realize. World of Secrets the Bad Guru Listen, wherever you get your BBC podcasts, BBC Sounds Music Radio podcasts. You're listening to the archers omnibus from BBC Radio 4. No, it's more than that, Rex. I just can't sit still. Yeah, I'm the same. Why can't Justin give us a straight answer? To beaver or not to beaver? He wants us to suffer. Haven't we suffered enough? Right, I'm gonna ring him now, see if he'll meet us this afternoon. Really? You're brave. Oh, no. What? Ruth Archer. Incoming. Oh, rather you than me. Good luck. Thanks. Afternoon. Hey, Ruth. How are you? Nice to have a break from the rain, isn't it? Yeah, I suppose. We were expecting to hear from you, Kirsty. From me? Well, from the rewilding team after the fiasco last week. Yeah, about that. We're hoping to hear your illegal beaver release idea has died to death. Don't worry, there won't be any kind of wild release. I should hope not. I can't apologise enough, Ruth. We didn't think it through. It was utter madness. We were way too hasty. I know. I can see where you're coming from. So there'll be no beavers at the rewilding. Licensed or unlicensed? We're still deciding on the licensed option. What? You're joking? We're not the only ones against, you know. There's loads of people. Including Brian. David filled him in this morning. Did he? Hiya, Kirsty. What you up to? Oh, hey, Rochelle. Just clearing the drive. You know, I had a lovely walk up Lakey Hill. I feel so much better. It's beautiful up there. Have you met Ruth Archer? This is Rochelle, Joy's daughter. Hi there. Hi. She's staying. For how long are you staying? Not sure yet. So, hang on, is it your farm? I could see from the top of the hill. Brookfield. Yeah, with all the cows. Am I right? Yeah, beef and dairy. And you've got your events barn, which is a fabulous space. We think so. I think I spotted the rewilded land too. Oh, yeah, you would have done. I guess. Some of it's actually Brookfield land. Just strolling through nature. Can't beat it. We all need a boost in January, don't we? It's so gray and miserable. Yeah, people need to be mindful of their well being this time of year. It's Blue Monday next week as well, when all the Christmas bills come in. Nightmare. And there's so much to worry about. Cost of living, climate change. True, but there are loads of ways to help with stress in a village like this. I mean, what is there? Actually, Kate does a lot at spiritual yoga, tai chi, Reiki. And Denise from the Vets. She runs a dance fitness class in St. Stephen's there was a choir one year. Well, two choirs. Fallon and Jolene each ran one. Your mum was in one and Mick was in the other. So there's stuff going on then. Yeah, but people don't always know what's out there. Hmm. By the way, any idea where Rex is? Rex? No, he just rang but I'm not sure where he was. Oh, I tried his boat and I've texted him a couple of times. Well, he can't be far. Right, I better head back. Nice chatting to you, Rochelle. And you. We need a meeting this week, Kirsty. Okay, sure. Yeah, I'll sort it out. Thanks. I'm going to have a think about all this, you know. What's that? What? The different ways you can get your mojo back. Well, being wise. Right, well, when you track down Rex, ask him about his running because that usually helps with his mojo. Okay, I will. Well, well, well. I didn't see you in a sauna, Miranda. That's because I was swimming. Oh, your usual 10 lengths, was it? 25 nowadays. You appear to be loitering, Justin. Oh, well, sorry. Do you mind me joining you? Apparently not. Oh, look, I heard about Christabel. Appalling bad luck. She hasn't died. She's moved to Monmouth. Yes, of course. Very picturesque. But I mean, still such a loss for you. She'll be a lot nearer her son. And the view from her new flat. Oh. How long were you two bridge partners? Over a decade, surely. Oh, more. Christabel was a delight to play with. Razor sharp instinct, agile brain. A real breath of fresh air. I wasn't that bad. Weren't you? I didn't always have the time. That's not how I remember it, but. Hey ho. Ah, there you are. Charming. Are you having a coffee, Brian? I'm not sure I'm in the mood now. Perhaps I should make a. Not before you explain what lunacy is going on with the rewilding. Beavers, you mean. Beavers. David's hopping mad. I don't blame him. I can assure you it's all in hand, Brian. What about beavers? Justin here was planning a wild unlicensed beaver release into the arm. Rubbish, Doc. Do you even begin to realise the damage they could do? Is this true? Not a word of it. Rex and Kirsty did get a little carried away, but that's all sorted now. So you won't be having beavers? No, I didn't say that. Well, I'll take it to the board, you know. Martin and Annabel will be firmly against, I can tell you that. Now slow down, Brian. It's not that cut and dry. Oh, isn't it? Well, there's no way any of us will allow you to bring beavers to Ambridge and there's an end to it. Isn't that rather a shame? What? Well, surely beavers are a welcome addition to the countryside? Absolutely not. Well, that's a matter of opinion. No, it's a matter of fact. One of my old chums in Devon had 30 metres of fencing completely destroyed by a falling poplar. But we're always hearing how useful they are for water management. Tree hugging propaganda, I'm afraid, Miranda. I don't realize. They look cuddly and sweet, but beavers are an absolute menace. Cuddly and sweet? Oh dear. Well, you know. You know what I mean. I'll make my own mind up, thank you very much. Then you'll see I'm right. Until then, we must agree to differ. Ryan. Oh, well, better get over to the rewilding. Oh, did Miranda tell you that she's short of a bridge partner? What? No. I'm sure I'll find an excellent replacement. Oh, it's a crying shame though, what with the Felversham Tournament coming up. You do so love winning that, don't you? I actually, I do. Do you Dabble at all, Brian. Me play bridge. It's the ultimate test of intelligence, I find. Indeed. So do you play, darling? Well, I have played. Of course I have. You've never mentioned it, but are you any good? I'm not mad, since you asked me. Really? Well, there you are then, Miranda. He can be your new crystal bell. Tootle. Pip. That man gets more insufferable every day. Every hour. Are you serious about playing bridge? Why wouldn't I be? Well then why don't we have a test run? There's an open session at my bridge club on Wednesday. This Wednesday? If you're free. I mean, if you're too busy. No, no, no, no. I'm sure Wednesday will be fine. Excellent. Then we'll see what you're made of. Ruth? Ruth. Hello. Am I interrupting the dinner? Rochelle, stay there. I'll come to you. I tried the house but you weren't there. Obviously. What are they eating, your cows? Silage. Pickled grass we cut in the summer. As you can see, they love it. They're very quiet. It's their favourite time of day. That's why. So these are your dairy cows then? Wow, there's more of them than I thought. 300 plus old tool. And that's your bowl. And the pen. He looks terrifying. No, Hector's a big softie. So, what can I do for you? Well, after our chat this morning, I decided to organise a well being day in the village with like taster sessions. You know, you're quick off the mark. I never hang around me. So I've emailed Spiritual Home about yoga and the last at the tea room offered to do a movement workshop. Probably Chelsea. She seemed really keen, so I'm sure there'll be others I can get. Anyway, Linda checked the village hall, but it's booked out for the month. Is it? It's annoying. Something to do with the council, I think. But then I remembered Kirsty said you host stuff here. Yeah, our events barn. Oh, you mean can you do it here? What do you reckon? Why not? Do you want to give me a call when I've checked the diary? I was hoping you could look now. Sorry, but my mom always says strike while the iron's hot. I think I probably do take after her for that. Yeah. Joy's a woman of action, isn't she? Let's see. How long would you need? A couple of hours. It could be kind of a drop in after six. They've passed so more people can get there, you know. Okay. How about Friday 7th February? Yeah. Sounds perfect. Six till 8pm We've got a Hassett Hills meeting there earlier, but yeah, it's free if someone can just open it up for us. I'll get me some Ben to do that and then he'll be on hand if you need him. Oh, thanks, Ruth. As soon as I clocked the accent, I knew you'd be up for it. Well, you're not wrong. Afternoon, Kirsty. Right, Justin. Would you like a coffee or something? No, no, just a conversation, thank you. Oh, I'll get another chair. You insist? You're having a nice weekend? I'm not sure yet. Okay. Firstly, can we apologize again for our misguided impatience? Yes, yes. Much as I enjoy receiving apologies, shall we save time and take that as read? Good idea. So, the purpose of this meeting is to establish where we're at, so to speak. I foresee two major obstacles to our reintroducing Beavers. Money, finance. Yes, and then local opposition, which was already going to be an uphill battle, but now what? Everest comes to mind. Brown's even talking about lobbying the BL board. Oh, no. And Ruth wants a meeting this week. Does she? Oh, sorry. Well, Kirsty's been looking into different funding sources, haven't you? Which we agree is in the order of 200,000 over four years, with a big chunk needed up front to build the enclosure. So, looking at 5 hectares, how much fencing? Sorry. 1,500 metres, give or take. Costing 60k. Give or take. And how much potential funding have you identified so far, Kirsty? Still working on it. So shall we say zero? Give or take? Yep. Someone's being annoyingly persistent. Rex? Yeah, it's just Rachelle. Sorry, I've put it on silent. But, Justin, we still think it should be a core mission, having Beavers here. It demonstrates everything we're trying to achieve. Nature. Restoring the land to where it should be. I applaud your enthusiasm, but this is a huge decision that you two have made considerably harder. Trust is a crucial part of a working relationship, don't you agree? Absolutely. Although, Justin, I have to say, you do have your own reputation on that score. She's quite right. Fair point. It is very much a two way street. So you two will be the first to know once I've made my decision. But I'll be frank, it's very much in the balance. Hello? Oh, hey, Tom. Oh, can I borrow your house keys? Sorry? Natasha wants me to measure up our bedroom at Beechwood. Oh, right. No, sorry. Dad's taking my car for its MOT and They're on the same key ring. Oh, damn. I've got a couple of hours spare now. Well, Joy's got a set, if that helps. Bumped into her this morning and she said Mick's got a day off, so they're planning to be at home all day. Oh, well, that's great. Oh, Tom. Yes? Did Henry manage to get hold of you? No, why? Oh, he's got geography homework due in on Friday. The components of climate change or something. And, well, basically he's struggling. Oh, is he? I told him to ask you because, well, he'll listen to you. Me? Yeah. Do you mind having a look? Yeah, sure. Tell him to email it. Oh, thanks, Tom. The water's warming up nicely out there. That's good. Sure you won't join me, love? You could do with a relaxing soak. Ah, I'm not in a hot tub mood, to be honest. Oh, you've started your new jigsaw. It's the Ponte Vecchio. Florence, eh? Oh, I took my breath away. Tuscany. Oh, I'd love to go, Mick, but the nearest I'll get is doing this jigsaw. Well, one day. Hey, what's your Rochelle up to today? Oh, she was popping over to Linda's first thing, but after that. But she's here for a tea later. Again, no clue. Sorry. I feel bad cooking separate, Joy, but it's too much like hard work, her being vegan. She won't mind sorting herself out. That way there's no need to fit in with us time wise. She's not easy to pin down, is she? Complete opposite of me. I'm always where I should be. But you getting on all right, you two? We're rubbing along okay, I think. Hey. Hey. I bet her kids would love to see the panto. I did suggest that, but she didn't think they'd be interested being teenagers. You know, pantos for all ages. Exactly. I can't wait. Can you be right? Laugh? Absolutely. These dark, chilly nights, we all need a giggle, don't we? Hey, the hot tub should be up to temperature. Now. You get yourself in there and I'll bring you a cuppa. Cheers, love. I definitely can't persuade you to come in with me. Sorry, no. Oh, but did I mention I've got us a chocolate cake from the tea room for later? Yum. Just what the doctor ordered. I doubt that. Now then, who's that? I'll get it. Oh, hello, Tom. Morning, Joy. Hiya. Oh, don't mind making his towel. He's about to get in the hot Tub okay? Well, a bit cold for that, isn't it? Nice toasty in there. Glad we decided not to sell it though. A bit of a treat for me, dear. Offset. Right. Well, anyway, Helen said you've got a spare key. I need to do some measuring up next door. Of course. Oh, it's on the sideboard. Can you grab it, Mick? Right up. Oh, I've brought the girls over to see their new home. Have you? Yeah. Only they fell asleep in the car. Oh dear. Here you go. Cheers. Do you want me to watch them for a minute? It's no trouble. No thanks, but I need to wake them up else they won't sleep tonight. Oh, if you're sure. But listen, we're really looking forward to you moving in, Tom, aren't we? Oh, hi. Helen will have told you how friendly everyone is around here. Well, you'll have seen it for yourself, no doubt. And people are ever so helpful. They really are. That's right. And if you need anything at all, you've only to ask. Oh, great. Well, thanks. Actually, there is one thing, if that's okay. Go. Fire away. It's just. Well, we're hoping you could keep the noise levels down in the evenings. Sorry? The girls bedtime is 7ish and they really need their sleep. I'm sure they do. So if you can save any loud music or any DIY, for example. Well, if that can be done before 7, we'd really appreciate it. Right. Sorry to ask. Oh no, don't worry, that's fine. We're really not the noisy types. Ask Helen. I like me prog rock now and then, but it's never loud loud, is it? Never. Well, that's perfect then. Well, thanks for the keys and I'll see you later. Right you are. What a cheek. Well, maybe they've had trouble with their current neighbours or something. Well, he won't have any trouble with us. Right, time for a much needed soak. Oh, I meant to say, shame about Rex. Rex? Wasn't he supposed to ring your Rochelle back, was he? Why's that? Oh, dunno. You'll have to ask her. Okay. Anyway, I best get in that tub. Yeah. All right then. Helen, over here. I got us both the parsnip soup. Oh, delicious. Thanks, Kirsty. Sorry, I had a sterling gold emergency. We'll have a cheesy drama. Yeah, they took the wrong batch, but luckily Clary noticed before the van left. So what's going on in Beaver world? Nothing, sadly. We're on pause till Justin makes his mind up. Sorry, but how have you ended up with Justin dictating the future of the rewilding. Search me. Although he does seem to have mellowed recently. Are you sure it's not a trick? I'm very wary, don't worry. But unfortunately, beavers turn out to be eye wateringly expensive and raising the funding is going to be tough. Well, fingers crossed then. So, did you get a chance to call Brenda? Actually, I did and we've got everything sorted. So Willow Farm is nearly mine. Just a few bits of paperwork to sort out. Kirsty, that is brilliant. I'm so jealous I was about to bring you a cuppa. Between you and me, the crying and squealing next door was a right put off. I did wonder. I could hear it from the lounge. All quiet now, though, finally. But I'm more stressed now than before I got in. Oh, dear. We were playing together. Lovely to start with. Then all hell broke loose. Well, it's a terrible twos, isn't it? Yeah, seems like it. So where was Tom? On his phone? Popping his head out now and then to shush them little ones next door, eh? It's going to be a bit different round here. Especially since Helen's boys are as good as gold. Aye, even when they're playing up, which doesn't happen very often. And they're mindful of us being next door. Toddlers with tantrums and two of them. I know. Tom's noise warning ought to work both ways. Good luck with that. At least they're quieting down in the end. Yeah, but I still couldn't relax. I don't know why, but I started thinking about Emma Grundy and the parish council thing. I thought we'd moved on from that. I know we don't agree, love, but it still makes my blood boil that folk could be so hypocritical and assume no one will notice. Water under the bridge, I know. Not the best turn of phrase, Mick. Oh, sorry. A future on the parish council won't be settled for a while, apparently. Anyway, I'll pop in the shower, then I'll have a look at that wobbly slab out front. Thanks, love. No, I'm fine about it now. I mean, I was annoyed with Tom, as you know, but mostly because they didn't say anything about buying the house. Nor did I, to be fair. You didn't know if they were serious? Not 100%. But you know, that's how Tom and Natasha work. They cook up these mad ideas without telling anyone in case it doesn't come off. Oh, like the Modeling, you mean? Exactly like the modeling. But if and when it does go wrong, the fallout is so much worse. They should have just come clean. So should I. Kirsty, it's fine. I know it'll be a bit tight with us all living together, but it's only temporary. There's a lot more room at Bridge Farm. No, I'm definitely not doing that. No, it'd be so much easier. Look, if I move back to the farmhouse, I will never move again. Why not? Because it'll be too easy. Mum and dad on hand all the time anyway. How would I be myself, you know? Of course you'd be yourself. Yeah, but how would I ever. Okay, how would I meet anyone? I don't know, Kirsty. I feel like I need to sort of live my life on my own terms, you know, before I can consider anything like that. Oh, it's hard to explain. Ignore me. No, I get it. I think you need the right kind of, well, power balance, don't you? From the very start. I do. I really do. Oh, thanks, Kirsty. Helps that someone actually understands. Sure. And likewise. Yeah. Yep, that's nice and level. Now the cement just needs to go off. Oh, you've done a smashing job there. Good as new. I know. But if I say so myself. Oh, looks like Tom's all done. Oh, it does. We're off now, then. See you both. Tom? Hang on a minute. Sorry. You've still got the key. Sorry. Sorry, I couldn't hear you. Shall I have the key back? Oh, I thought I'd hang onto it, actually. Did you? Well, I'll be coming round her a lot over the next few weeks, won't I? I'm sure you will, pet. But I'll still need it back. Why's that? For when the boys forget the key. Well, it'll teach them to remember it. Won't it be harsh? Nah. We've all got to learn. Might as well start young. And if Helen wants that, then it's fine by me. But in the meantime, I'll keep the key. Please. Well, Helen can get one cut, I expect. Absolutely, yeah. All right, then. Here you go. Thanks very much. Okay. I'll see you again. Aye, you will. Yeah. Say hi to Natasha. It will do. You're no pushover, are you? I try not to be. You deserve a large slice of that chocolate cake for Standing Firm, love. I need one. Still, people need to know what's what. They do. Bit of a prat, Helen's brother. Can't see Orochelle getting on with him. Who knows? I reckon she's starting to enjoy village life. You know, I was showing her a map of Ambridge last night. The great Gables land. I keep an eye on where the rewilding is. Lower Loxley. The woods where Rex's pigs are. All right. I still think there's a bit of chemistry between her and Rex. Although I reckon he's the shy type when it comes to women. I will. Rochelle's got a lot on her plate. Let's have this cake then. It's a shame, mind, because he'll miss his moment with Rochelle, like. And everyone deserves a bit of happiness, like us. Don't you reckon? Oh, where's that gone? Hey, Max. Oh, Rochelle. Hi. Oh, the piglets are so cute. Oh, look at them. Oh, just to steer clear of the sow. Yeah. Never get between a mother and a young, eh? Right. What's up? You don't look happy. Oh, no, sorry. I have keep dropping the bits and bobs for the heat lamp. Your hands must be freezing. Yeah. So what's this contraption then? I'm putting in a new infrared bulb to warm up the newborn piglets. That looks interesting. The little ones huddle under it and that should stop their mum accidentally lying on them. As long as it's fitted. Right. See you. Yeah. Aha. Is this one of the escaping screws? Oh, cheers. Yeah, there should be a couple more. Let's have a look. I've got eagle eyes, me. You never rang me back. No, I didn't. Sorry. It's been manic recently. So how did you know where to find me? Well, your pigs must need checking on every morning. Yeah. Oh, and here's another. Thanks. Your message said something about. What was it? A well being day? More of an evening thing. Kirsty said you were into running. I am. When I get time. Yeah. How do you fancy sharing some tips for people who want to start jogging? Really? Oh. Oh, and here's another one. Oh, thanks. That's the last one. This heat has good timing. Linda was saying it'll be chilly tonight. Poor little things. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, but I. I'd better put this thing in now. So I'll look in then. Because these hands, see, work has hands, I can see. Yeah, but I mean, you don't. Well, my only other option today is sipping yet more tea with the village oldies. Oh, Linda, you mean? Yeah, hubby, me ma'am. Mick. Don't get us wrong, they're lovely people, but reminded me P's and Q's all the time. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Might be a bit of a strain. I'm knackered, man. So I need rescuing. Are you getting that? Well, if you don't mind helping. Try and stop me. Oh, while I've got you, Joy, are you still okay to cover the post office later? You're taking Neil to the Bull for lunch, I remember. Yes, and I'd rather not rush back. He's okay though, is he? Oh, he's seeing Dr. Malik the small morning. Blood pressure still high then? Well, it's just a follow up. We're hoping it's back to normal because he certainly seems a lot better in himself. Physically anyway. Between you and me, he needs cheering up. So glad we've got your panto trip to look forward to. It'll be a hoot. I hope so. Oh, you sound ever so concerned. He's out of sort really. And what way he's. Well, he's dwelling a lot, I suppose, about his birth family really. You know he was an abandoned baby. I had heard that. Yeah. Which you can't quite believe ever happens, can you? I mean, what kind of mother would do that? I know it was a long time ago, but still, I'd say the only person who would is someone who's that desperate that can't see any other way. She must have been in a dreadful state to get more ready. Put him on a doorstep and walk away forever. Poor woman. When you put it like that. Anyway, hark at me. Whittering on. How's your Rochelle doing? Must be lovely to catch up with all her news. Oh, hi. It is. Hey, did I mention I bumped into your Emma in Borchester last week? She was a lot more herself. That's the only way I can describe it. I said exactly that to Ed the other day. It's like she's accepted the George situation a bit more. Him not letting her visit, you mean? Well, and the fact that she can't do a thing about any of it. It is what it is. You just have to get on with it, keep calm and carry on. That is very true. Now, Mr. Carter, this is much better. Is it back to normal? We'll keep an eye on it, of course. And the dizzy spells, have they cleared up? Yeah, they have. Then I don't think we need to consider blood pressure medication for now. Oh, that's a relief, Doctor. I was quite worried. And then it struck me that fretting about my high blood pressure might end up increasing it even. The main thing is you're back on track. Walk into work now where I can. And Susan's cut down on treats. Has she? That's good. Yeah, it's all about a healthy diet in our house nowadays. I wish my house was like that. Teenagers and treats are impossible to prize apart, I find. Yeah, I know what you mean. Kira's the same. But I think Susan's taking it that bit more seriously. Because at the end of the day, we don't know what my family history is in terms of blood pressure, do we? Or in terms of anything else. Okay. Is anything happening? Oh, this thing's faulty. After all that effort. Give it a chance, man. Let's see. Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely warming up, is it? 100%. Oh, well, good. You're on a right down at the day, Rex. You could do with dropping into Mind Dropping. Oh, the. The well being thing. Yeah, help some aspiring runners while also benefiting yourself. Ah, no, it's pretty full on at the rewilding. Oh, the irony. You de stress the land by getting really stressed yourself. Yeah, I hadn't thought of it like that. But you have now. So can I sign you up? Oh, you have definitely spent too much time with Linda. What? Christmas show? Village Fate cricket event, Anything like that. It's never long before there's a smiling Linda on your doorstep. Right, A smile says it all. Resistance is futile. That is literally me, Rex. I've been around the village recruiting people all week. Oh, no, I've morphed into Linda. Save me. No, no chance. You're too far gone. I am? Yeah. Story of my life. Oh, sorry, Rochelle, I didn't mean. Oh, no, I'm kidding. Anyway, if this drop in's a success, I'll at least feel I've earned me keep. It's a brilliant idea, so. Oh, you reckon? Thanks, Rex. Hey, you and Kirsty could talk about rewilding too. Running and rewilding. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, it's been tricky with some of the villages recently and maybe next time. Well, I'd like to see more of it anyway. Rewilding. Well, it sounds like an amazing project. We're a few years into it now. Mum says. Oh, it's really starting to show results. We've done surveys and there are loads more butterflies and invertebrates now. And the longhorns were an excellent addition. Do you know your whole face glows when you talk about it? What? Does it? No, I mean it. You've got every right to be proud. You and Kirsty are giving us hope for nature and climate change. Well, we're doing our best. We should all be doing More, mind. So. So Thursday lunchtime. You can show me the longhorns. I'll bring a picnic with me. World famous white bean dip. Can I give you a call? You've got to eat lunch. Well, it's just. I'm not sure yet. Listen, I am actually quite a nice person. I know, but I mean. I mean. No, of course you are. I know you are. So I'll see you on Thursday? Um. Yeah, I guess it's a date. Yes, I remember you telling me about that. So you haven't had contact with any siblings either? No, nothing. I mean, for all I know, I might have 10 brothers and sisters out there. Although hopefully none with high blood pressure. You're not curious about your birth family? Yeah, it was a long time ago, Doctor. Sure, sure. And it's. It's very different now. I mean, assuming it's appropriate, contact with your birth family might be encouraged nowadays. So I gather. But I'm not sure why, though. I think. I think it's about developing your sense of identity and probably helping you to understand your life story. Well, mine wasn't that bad. Luckily, once I was settled with my foster mum and dad, I had it easy. Warm house, food on the plate. You couldn't have met more generous folk. It made me who I am today. Perhaps that sounds like a positive experience, Mr. Carter. Yeah, I'm pleased for you. Of course, it doesn't mean I don't wonder from time to time who my mother was, whether she had any more children and, you know, brothers and sisters, like you say. And also, if she ever, you know, if she ever thinks about me. Right, she's still alive even. Right? I mean, did she ever try and find me or quietly check on me somehow without saying who she was? Or did she simply turn her back on me and move on with her life? I guess I'll never know. Anyway, that's for me to think about, isn't it? Sorry, I won't take up any more of your time, Doctor. It's fine. At least I can stop worrying about my blood pressure. Thanks very much. There we go. Sorry to ask. Ah, it's no bother at all. Jim will be covering the shop counter, so I'll be fine doing the post office. I've done it before. Well, thanks. I just want us to have a nice leisurely lunch so he can tell me how it went with the doctor. He texted me to say he's got the all clear. But still. Oh, here he comes after new birds. Hi there, Neil. Oh, look here, chickadee. Boo. According to Dr. Mallock. Well, thank heavens. Sounds like you were in there a while. Yeah, well, I did keep her talking a bit, now I think about it. We got talking about my birth family. Really? Oh, I was saying earlier how difficult things must have been for your birth mum to give up her newborn like that. Adam tracked down his half sister recently, didn't he? A year or so back. Yeah. Shall I ask if he'll have a word with you? No, no need, Susan. You know, I'd rather stop thinking about it and just be grateful for what I've got. I'm not sure it's doing me any good worrying like this. No. No, perhaps not. Well, if you're sure. Lunch. Don't you think I'm looking forward to sampling Fallon's steak pie, aren't you? If it's half as good as Wayne's, it'll be spectacular. Sorry. We'll get off then. Thanks, George. Enjoy your meal. Cheers. Oh, did he. Joy, are you there? Hello? Yes, sorry, yes, I am. It's Rex. Hi there. Everything okay? I'm not sure. I don't know whether to ring you or not, but you have rang me, so. It's Rochelle. I think we might be. Look, I know what you said, which I understand, or at least I think I do, so I tried saying no, but it didn't work and I don't want to upset her. Right, so basically we're having lunch this week, but I didn't want you thinking I ignored you. No. Although I'm not sure I do understand. But. Yeah. Anyway, you're busy. I'm about to open the post office and I've got a meeting to prep for. 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How smart is this place then? Bridge club? Oh, not overly smart, but you know, people tend to make a bit of an effort. I could change my shoes. Yes, muddy shoes might be a tad unwelcome. And you could put a jacket on. Perhaps there's not an actual dress code. Not that I'm aware of. Because I'm in no mood for preening myself. Yes, I gathered that. So this is about Justin and his beavers, am I right? What? Your lack of bonhomie. I don't know what you mean, Miranda. I sensed that you didn't appreciate me expressing an opinion on Sunday. Well, it's always best when you don't know what you're talking about. Bravely put. Well, glad we've got that sorted then. Except like many people, I've watched lots of wildlife programs, listened to a variety of experts and taken a view which I'm keen to discuss further. You have no idea what a threat beavers pose to agricultural land. You just asked David and Ruth. Oh, but I thought they were just. How did you put it? Oh yes. Cuddly and sweet, they're anything but. You don't think you risk coming over as an old fashioned nature destroying farmer? Me? No, not remotely. Lots of younger farmers feel the same. Bumped into Ed Grundy at market yesterday and he's very much against for exactly the same reasons as me. I bet Tom and Helen are too. Well, actually, I popped into the Farm Shop yesterday and Helen seemed remarkably positive. Anyway, no one can accuse me of being old fashioned. Home Farm was the first round here to introduce Herbal Lays, so. Ah, now I've read about that too. Interesting. And that was your initiative? Perhaps I will wear a jacket. As you wish. I also saw Kate in the Farm Shop, by the way. She's been asked to demonstrate yoga at this well being event sometime soon in Ambridge. Not sure. She didn't have any details. I bet they wanted to do it for nothing. I think it's just a one off as far as I'm concerned. If people want to try yoga, they should go to one of Kate's classes and pay for it. I see. Shall we go then? So you agree they need an enclosure? Now that's something, I suppose. I think we can put last week's exploits down to a rare moment of impulse. Don't you agree, Rex? Kirsty? Yeah. The time scale seemed unbearably long, but you're right, it was stupid of us. It's finished with Ruth, I promise you. Gone. I'm glad to hear it. But even with an enclosure, I mean, what if the beavers escape? And they do? I've looked into it. It's not uncommon. Exactly. We can minimise the risk with the kind of enclosure we go for. But there'd still be a full contingency plan. Which would be worked out very carefully. Basically, we'd set humane traps to recapture them. And obviously we'd let everyone know straight away. All the nearby farmers like yourself. Because you're right, beavers do escape sometimes. But this approach, honestly, it does work. They can be recaptured and returned to their enclosure. Oh, sorry, that's mine. The thing is, Ruth, for this to work how we want it to, we realize that there does need to be some kind of local consensus. Absolutely. Bit late for that. I really hope not. Our exploits aside, this is a genuinely strong project with all the biodiversity benefits we've already talked about. Oh, not again. Sorry, Justin switched off. And don't forget, there's an initial survey to find out people's views and concerns. And that's before we hold the consultation meeting. Right. Perhaps Ruth should see the area. So she knows exactly where you mean? Yes, because then you'd see how doable it is. Yeah. What you think? We're doing a huge amount of planning. Oh, they are. We'd love to share some of it with you. Sorry, no, I need to get on. I don't think it would take long, would it? 20 minutes max. Please, Ruth. Then you can make up your mind based on our actual plans. Last. Where are my glasses? I better have left them in the car then. I saw you put them in your jacket. Oh, yes. Here they are. Panic over. If you say so. Now, did I mention I might be slightly rusty? You did. Oh, God. I think these. These might be my old glasses. And I'm sure you'll manage. Brian, could you please buck up? Because our little disagreement is not worth brooding over and I should like to enjoy our game of bridge. I'm not brooding. If you must know, I'm rather miffed that you felt the need to disagree with me in public. And in front of Justin, of all people. Ah. You're not accustomed to dissent. As a matter of fact, Jenny often disagreed with me. Really? Though she showed me the courtesy of doing it in private. Understood. Sadly, that is very much not my style. Although I'm sure you'll get used to it. And by the way, should you wish to disagree with me in public, you're more than welcome. There's nothing I enjoy more than some lively open debate. Shall we go in? I'd love to. So the enclosure would end over there. Can you see by the orange marker? Okay. There's a kind of skirt on the fencing so they can't tunnel underneath. And steel barriers at the base of the wider gates to stop them burrowing under. It's a decent sized patch of ground, 5 hectares with pretty much everything they're going to need. And look, there's oak, beech, Hazel. Well, you can see. So the beavers can damage whichever they like. Surely it'll protect some of them. Yeah, we'll put wire around some like that crab apple. Okay. And there'll be special grills around flowing water so they can't get out that way. And a full feasibility study would make sure all this kind of planning is doable. Right. Well, the protection sounds pretty thorough. I'll need to look into it more, but I suppose it's useful to see the actual area we're talking about. I'll be honest with you, Ruth. This project matters to us big time. Having beavers here, it sort of exemplifies what the rewilding is all about. 100%. But the project still risks damaging the AM you can't deny that. Like the manure run off, which pollutes it all the time. Whereas beavers are sort of aquatic engineers, improving the health of the waterways. That's debatable. Ah, well, thank you for giving us your time. I realize you're busy today. Always busy, Justin. That's Farming for you. Rest assured, we'll keep you informed. I hope you will. But thanks for showing me anyway. I appreciate that. See you all again. Yeah. Bye, Ruth. Thanks again. That went better than I thought. We didn't convince her, but at least she seemed to listen. Yeah. What do you think, Justin? I think we should reconvene in the office after lunch. Because I have finally come to a decision at last. Where were you? I thought you might have run off without me. Don't be ridiculous. You look quite fed up at the end. I'm not used to coming bottom. Well, I did say I was a little rusty. And I foolishly assumed you were being modest. Me? Moi? Modest? Silly me. So what were you doing for so long? Apologising for your incompetent partner? Not quite. No. I thought, rightly, as it turns out, that if I lingered for a while in the ladies, then everyone would have gone home. What, you were actually hiding? I think laying low is the correct term. Do you blame me, Brian? Your bidding was not what we agree. Wasn't it? People couldn't work out if you were a disturbed genius or a complete beginner. Well, not a complete beginner. You said you were rusty. Yeah, I thought I did rather well. I spent a good couple of hours jenning up on the Internet, reminding myself of the rules. Ridiculously complicated, aren't they? Honestly. So you don't like being disagreed with in public, but you're happy to brazen it out at the bridge table? Well, I was enjoying myself. Your face was a picture when I bid that slam. What on earth possessed you? Oh, aim high is my motto. We went seven down. Good grief. I should have taken for the hills. So what you're really saying is a little more practice is in order? Oh, you'll need considerably more than that before you start partnering me. Oh, shame. I quite fancied being your Christabel. I hope Elliot isn't your preferred option. That tournament. I'd rather not play at all than partner Justin. I'm glad to hear it. I thought he had some brass neck. But you, Brian, you are in a category all of your own. Flattery will get you everywhere. However, there is potential in your. What shall I say? Your courageous style. So if you commit to proper lessons, we might make a bridge player out of you eventually. Thanks very much. Well, you certainly wreaked your revenge with that little display. I think it's one all now, don't you? And the rest. So, Helen, Tom, Natasha and two strapping lads all in that house. Don't forget the Twins. I don't envy them myself. Oh, nor me. Hey, Justin. Oh, she should have finished this email. Two ticks, please. I know there isn't much room on my boat, but still. Yeah, it's your own space. You can do what you like. Exactly. And that's it. And sent. Okay, great. Justin, can we start by stressing how sorry we are? No, no, no, look, please don't. I realize you're sincere on that score. Good. However, had your misguided little plan worked, I would have been finished with the rewilding for forever. Oh, it's a good job we saw the error of our ways. What happened, in fact, was Khalil squealed. But we would never have gone through with it. Not in the cold light of day. I only have your word for that? Look, Justin, we're still here, aren't we? Rex and I made a mistake. A big one. But we faced the music. Not easy when the people we've upset most are our friends and neighbours. Yeah, People we have to see every day. But we stood firm because we know this project can work well. Yes, all right. I think that's probably true. Do you really? I do. That's why I've just commissioned the feasibility study for Reintroducing Beavers to Rewilding Ambridge. What? That's what you sent immediately after I submitted our application for a license. Wow. I can't believe it. That's brilliant. Well, thank you. No, no, no. But before anyone gets over excited, can we agree that this is A, a long term project and cannot under any circumstances be rushed, however enthusiastic we feel. And B, it is a hugely expensive project which will cost us an arm and both legs, possibly more. Oh, we accept that, don't we, Kirsty? Sure. We have to be realistic. This isn't a done deal, is it? No. No. Where near? We can't underestimate the strength of local opposition. Not if Ruth and David are anything to go by. And Brian Aldridge. It's going to be an almighty battle. But one which is worth fighting, in my opinion. And which I feel sure we'll win. If it's down to the pair of you. One has to admire your tenacity and unwavering commitment to the scheme. Hang on. Is that a compliment? Possibly. Thanks, Justin. Yeah, cheers. One of your many roles will be to set up a full consultation process with all neighbouring landowners and concerned residents, starting with that feasibility survey. So we're really doing it? Yes, we jolly well are. Ah, he's not that bad. How our Tracy puts up with you. Well, your Dad's your dad, Susan. At the end of the day and he's still going strong. Yes, I know I shouldn't complain. I keep wondering if my father even knew I existed. But you're foster dad, Neil. He was a wonderful bloke. You always said that. Oh yeah. Dennis was a big gentle chap. Full of warmth. Took me fishing every Sunday. I remember we'd sit side by side on the tow path. No need to say a word. I really loved him, you know. So I don't need to know anything about my birth parents cuz that's not who I am, is it? No. Although genetically it is. Well, yes, that's the problem, love. I'm sort of veering between nature and nurture all the time. Oh, love. You see, this is why I've never looked into it before. It could be a right can of worms. I've managed for 67 years without knowing, so I'm sure I'll manage a few more. No, you're very welcome. Bye bye. Morning me. Oh, Rochelle. Sorry, I meant to ring you. I've brought a picnic as promised. It's just. Oh, you can't refuse me cannellini bean dip. We got the green light from Justin, you see. Well, for the beavers. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well done. Oh, you must be buzzing, right? Oh, we are, but there's. There's tons to get done. Well, you can at work on an empty stomach, man. I was going to grab a sandwich. Oh, I've got a hamper full outside. A hamper? I wasn't sure what you eat, was I? So I've done all the catering. All you've got to do is provide the location. The most picturesque spot you can think of. Oh well, there's a few possibilities actually, but I'm not sure. Great. Come on then. The weather's going to turn about three, so we'll be back before then, eh? Oh, Adam. Oh, hi Susan. Did you forget something? Oh no. I was hoping to catch you if that's okay. Oh, sure, sure. I just wondered. It's a bit delicate actually. Oh, don't tell me I've done something wrong. Oh no, no, no, nothing like that, Adam. What it is. You see what I want to ask? Yeah. It's about your half sister, Erin. You met up with her, didn't you? That's right, I did. Best part of a couple of years ago now because Neil, my Neil, he started wondering more about his birth family. Of course he was fostered, wasn't he? And he's thinking about looking for his birth mum. Wow. Right. I was hoping you might have a chat with us. If you think that'd help. But then David Archer turns up spitting tats. No. And that was that beaver bombing. Oh, you're total heroes. We thought we were. No, but. No, we'd have blown the whole thing. Oh, you're my heroes anyway. Oh, well, good. Here, have the last falafel. Oh, no, no, I'm stuffed. I'll do your doggy bag. Can't be easy cooking on that boat. I do okay, but thanks, E. I had a brilliant laugh years ago working in the kitchen on a luxury train. Seriously. So, I know all about cooking in tight spaces. I mean, I love canals, but you can't beat a heritage train. I cannot imagine you on a heritage train. Oh, and I loved it. The noise, the movement, the people. We wore them curvy 50s dresses, you know. You'd look amazing. I did. We should go. The view to die for. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Must be nice catching up with your mum. Well, she can be pretty judgmental. I expect she means well. I've had such a great time today. Thank you, Rex and me. So why don't we do it again? Well. Well, we could. I just. I'm not sure what I'm up to yet, so. Right. It's. It's a bit tricky at the moment. Are you seeing someone else? Me? No. No, no, no, it's not that. So what is it? I can't really. We're both feeling something here. Am I wrong? Rex, you're not wrong. Then, bam, down comes come the shutters again. You've got to help us out, Please. I'm thinking all sorts. Okay. Okay. Do I deserve to feel this rubbish? No. No, you don't. Honestly. It was your mum. Eh? She said. What? What did you see? She said you were tellers. Please. Vulnerable. What? Vulnerable. She said that? I'm sorry. Oh, right. I didn't know what to think. You're not the only one. Rochelle. So this Erin, she was keen to meet you, then? She was overseeing a friend in Hereford, but. Yeah. Yeah, I thought she was. And you heard all about your dad? Turns out he loved rugby. Like me. He'd spent some time farming abroad. Oh, and you have, too. He showed me photos of these exquisite sandcastles he'd make for her. How lovely. Yeah, but it also sort of upset me thinking of him devoting so much time to her. His daughter. All that love, but none for you. Selfish, I know. I'd say it's natural. Then when she didn't want to stay in Touch what? Not at all. A Christmas card? Occasional texts. That's it. Oh, what a shame. I've never been able to fathom it. Why make the effort to see me if she had no intention of. Of connecting properly? But she did answer your questions. And it was obvious my father had become a solid family man. Which was nice to know when I drove home. And this is silly, really. Oh, what I remember thinking, at least I come from decent stock. Really? Ian said that's just me being a farmer. Oh, I'd be the same. Anyway, I already have three amazing sisters. I used to dream about having a brother or sister like you, Susan. I love the way you and Tracy look out for each other. Well, I've also got Clive and Keith, so. Careful what you wish for. True. Listen, I'll. I'll have to get home. It's my turn to help Xander with his reading. Oh, thanks for chatting with us, Adam. I hope I haven't made things worse. No, no, no. Don't you worry. I appreciate your time. Well, thanks for the pint. Bye. Yeah, see you tomorrow. Bye. Wow. I'm not sure what I was expecting. Oh, I'm sorry, love. I thought hearing Adam's story would help things become clear. Clear as mud. He seemed to feel like he's been rejected all over again. Maybe. But, you know, I never felt rejected. Not when I was brought up in such a loving home. As far as I can see, I've got nothing to lose. What, you want to pursue it, then? Well, I think I do. Oh, right. Well, we. We can approach Social Circumstances Services, but that'll take a while. And if my birth mother is still alive, I could ask Adam about that website he mentioned. Well, the one Erin replied to. Yeah, why not, love? Let's give it a go. I've just vacked your room. What do you fancy for your tea? I could do some vegetable stew. Rochelle. Oh, what's wrong? Pat, what on earth's happened? Get out my room, please. Sorry. I don't want you anywhere near me. Rochelle. Get out. I will. But why would anyone do that to their own daughter? I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, you do. See? Oh, so this is about Rex. Two hours I've been walking around the village trying to calm down. I'm so sorry. Oh, don't bother, ma'am. Why would you do that, Rochelle? Get offers? Get your hands off me. Okay, I'm sorry. Why did you even speak to him, love? And to say that vulnerable. Do you even know how question that is? How humiliated as a Grown woman. To hear that from someone who likes you. Someone who's having fun getting to know. You said it. Because it's true. That is a complete and utter garbage. I can see you're vulnerable, pet, because I've seen it before. You're drifting again, aren't you? You've no proper home, no job. You don't know any of that. Think I do. And you're clearly broke. It's called bad luck. It doesn't mean I'm a pointless, powerless waste of space. No one's saying that. But you're a mam who's away from her Bens, so of course you're vulnerable. And that really breaks my heart. What, so instead of supporting me, you go and tell the only bloke I've liked for literally years that I'm damaged goods? That's not what I said. It's what you meant, ma'am. And he knew it. I'm sorry about Rex, but you need to stop getting distracted and think about Harper and Noah. Be in their lives properly. I am in their lives. I'm always thinking about them. What do you think I'm doing? Visiting Linda, Talking about her well being day. Enjoying the countryside, which is fine, but please, can you focus on your children first? Every single thing I do is for them. To make sure they're all right, so they have to some kind of future. But you need to spend more time with them, love. I know it's not easy, but that's being a mother. What would you know? You were a useless mother to me, were you not? But you can do a brilliant job, Rochelle. It's obvious you want the best for those Bens, but that means being with them, showing you love them. Maybe I'm not cut out to be a mother like you. Maybe that's why I keep messing up. You only have to love them. And you do. Anyone can see that. Why is there only just one way of doing that, ma'am? Your way, basically. But that's not mine, okay? That's not me. I know you mean well, sweetheart, but can't you see I need something for myself? Something to live for. Something to make things better. Look, let me help you, eh? We'll go and see them together, take them out for the day. Or they could come and stay here. Or. Hey, they'd love Ambridge, don't you reckon? Oh, I get it. What you really want is to see them. You don't care about me at all. You never did. I love you so much it physically hurts sometimes. Of course I worry About Harper and Noah. Because they're your bairns. They're family. And they need you. Just like you needed me. Except you weren't there. I'm here for all of you now, love. I promise you. What, so you wouldn't let us down now? Never. But you just have saying that to Rex. This is why I could never believe you. Please rush her. Just go away. Please, ma'am. Just get out. Get out. Okay. I'm so sorry. I'm so, so, so. Helen, have you got a minute? I'm about to take a new customer around the dairy. Can it wait? I was just wondering if we should launch the kids loyalty card at Henry's event. His know your onions thing. Yeah, and do you know how much space he'll need in the car park? He'll be back from school shortly, Tom, so you can ask him yourself. Oh, look, thanks for helping with his homework. Sorry. He's really pleased with it now. Handed it in this morning. Well, I didn't actually. See you later. Yeah, okay, honey. Me? That's good. Being on earlies because it's still light when I get back. Well, just. Ah. Oh, I thought you'd have done more of Florence. Not today. Not in the mood. Has she been down yet? No. I've heard her on the phone now and then. Not sure who to. Friends, I assume. I've been thinking, Joy, why don't we go down the Ball for some tea, the three of us? Nice walk. Neutral territory, you know, Talk it through, eh? I'm sure it's not that bad. Bless you. But going for a meal won't solve this. We can try. Listen, I reckon I've got to know Rochelle a bit now. And she might talk to me. She might. But what would that change? Make. Is it about the children? It's about them. Their mam and her mom. Okay. And what ought to be a close, loving, normal family like you see every day around here. Oh, I hear movement. Michelle, love. I say, I'm making us all a cuppa. You fancy that, eh? Rochelle, what's going on, love? Oh, no. Oh, come on now. What, you're not leaving, surely? Looks like it. Put your bags down and come and see your mum. I'm asking you, ma'am. Oh, love, sit down, will you, please? I'm not stopping. I was saying, why don't we three head down the Bull for one of Fallon's pies and a nice glass of wine on me? Get things sorted. No, thanks. For some mad reason, I thought I could get some. I don't know Some comfort being here. You will, pet. We love having you. I should have known better. Please, just talk to me. Well, so you can judge me like always. Let's face it, I was one big disappointment. So you were not. Why would you say that? And now my life has nothing to do with you. But you cannot let it go. You're my daughter and I love you. Give your mum a chance, kid. I've given her chance after chance, but there's nothing left. What time's the bus from the village? Eh? Oh no, there's no bus till tomorrow. I'll get a taxi then. I'm sorry I've upset you, but what if Rex is the only taxi free? I can't see Rex. Why not? Why not? So you haven't told him? Look, Mick, me and Rochelle had a bit of a misunderstanding. Seriously? I'll walk if I have to. Please don't go. It's getting dark, love. You can't. Watch me. No. Look, I'll take you wherever you want. I'll get me car keys. No chance. Then I'll take you. Will you? Thanks, Mick. I'll try my best to bring her back, I promise. Oh, please. Let's put your stuff in the boat then. Come on, please. Make a listen. Oh, great. You've nearly finished the veg boxes. Thought I'd pack a few before I start my homework. That's excellent. That means Will can start delivery as soon as he gets in tomorrow. Yep. Adam brought down more kale then? Looks like it. I was thinking, Henry, we should launch your kids loyalty card scheme at the February event. If we're showing children what goes into our veg boxes, that's a good time to get their attention. I've got everything organized, including the cards. Right. It's all in the plan. Oh, could you send me that then, do you think? Then I'll know how much space to rope off in the car park? Well, I can email it to you. Yeah, but whether you read it or not. Oh yeah, Henry, about your homework. I gave Kirsty a call. She made some really clever suggestions and gave me a whole page of links. Good for her. Because obviously you're too busy. No, it wasn't. I wasn't too busy to read it, honestly. So you just thought it was rubbish? No, Henry, I didn't. I. I just. I don't know enough about the latest research. Then you should have said. With the girls and all our staffing problems recently, it turns out I'm hopelessly out of date. I've handled it in now anyway. Yeah, Your mum said Heidi's check on the goats now. Yep. Well, thanks for helping out. I'll see you later. Hopefully not. Sorry, Henry. So where am I heading to? Town centre. Which bit? Straight on here. Okay. Look, I don't know anything, Rochelle, but I'm sure your mum was just trying to help. By slagging me off to Rex? She wouldn't do that. You have no idea what me mom's like. We've been together a while now. I think I do. She's not the lovely one person everyone thinks she is. I know you had your differences, but in my experience, these things don't sort themselves out without a lot of talking and listening. You're right there. So why don't we head back to Hamburger? Do you know, when my dad left, me mum was like. She was an empty shell. Must have been a shock. She'd known about his shenanigans for years. Still can't have been easy. But when he left, our life just stopped. And that's how it would have stayed if I hadn't took over. I probably cared for her, you know. It must have been hard. What difference did it make? Nowt. How do you mean, though? This. Turn here, please. Where? Oh, bus station. Yeah. So where are you going? Away from her. Doesn't matter where it was until I finally left and made me own life that she got herself together. Oh, Rochelle. But now, oh, she's right as rain, isn't she? I don't know. Is she? You weren't there, Mick. She's had a massive downer on us ever since. Never a word of thanks. Just this constant nitpicking and undermining and telling us what to do. She's actually toxic, my mother. She's trying her best. You don't know her at all. You really don't. You should get away from her while you still can. Rochelle, love, please tell me where you're heading. Sorry, but that's my business. Hang on, I'll help you with your stuff. No need. I can sort myself out. I've had plenty of practice. But thanks for the lift. No, this one's yours. Yeah, Good girl. Oh, they're looking fantastic, Henry. Are they all in, kid? Yeah, according to the scans. It'll be a busy April then. Thanks for making a start on the veg boxes. Made it loads quicker for me. I wasn't doing it for you. Okay. You're gonna have to tell me what I've done wrong. Am I? You're annoyed with me and I haven't a clue why. Hey, you Two. Hi, Helen. So, I thought lasagne for supper. Henry, Is that okay? Sure. Jack's gonna help me with it. Oh, and I've managed to get you and Khalil tickets for the panto. Okay, thanks. Well, I thought you'd be pleased. Is everything all right? Yep. Look, if something's happened, I'd rather know. So would I. Oh, yeah. Henry. No, let him speak. You don't think the way you bought our house was actually really nasty? Nasty? We talked about this, Henry. We'll find another wonderful house, and it'll be a new adventure. Yeah, right. But we will. Darling, you told me you were fine with what we decided. And Jack said the same. We'll be squished up in our own home with two extra adults and two little kids who won't leave you alone. But we'll manage, won't we? You asked me to say what I think, Mum. Yeah, sorry. She's obviously forgiven you, but it's not okay to do that. We're supposed to be family. No, no, I get that. We should have discussed it with all of you, and I apologize. You think? Oh, I'll talk to Jack as well. Okay. So, Henry, do you accept Tom's apology? Because it won't be easy, us living together, if you're holding grudges. I suppose. Thanks. And I'm sorry again. And did you thank Tom for helping with your homework? Oh, actually, I didn't help Helen. You didn't? Kirsty helped me. Oh, she knows everything. Pretty much. So I'll defer, get a good mark. Well, you wouldn't have if I'd helped you, that's for sure. Really? Yeah. I couldn't even understand the question. Shove up, then. Okay. That's better. Come here, love. Where's she gone to? She was getting a bus, that's all. I know. It breaks me heart that two people so obviously care about each other can be at loggerheads like this. It's always the same, however much I try. I have to ask. What in heaven's name did you say to Rex? She's really upset about that. I told him the truth. Which is? That she's more vulnerable than she seems. What does that mean, vulnerable? Well, she is, but that's not how she comes over. Not remotely. And how is she supposed to feel, you saying that? What's Rex gonna make of it? You tell me. How taken up with Rex would help Harper and Noah. I don't know. Maybe it'll give Rochelle a bit of happiness. You know, some stability. I don't think so. He's a smashing bloke. And she might feel more like having her kiddies a bit more often if she wants them. What? Kosher wants them? What you say? I'm saying nothing because I know nothing, do I? But she's an adult and maybe you shouldn't worry so much. But I do worry. I worry all the time about those children. They're busy teenagers now, aren't they? They're happy enough by the sounds of it. They can't be happy without their mum around. It's hard getting close to them. Benny's not a bad bloke, but I reckon he's finding life simpler if she's not so involved. Why would he think that? It's complicated. They were both free spirits when they got together. And when the babies came along, he knuckled down, but Rochelle carried on drifting, always looking for the next challenge. Right. And all the while, our biggest challenge is right under her nose. The kids. Why can't you say that? Mick? I'm sorry, but taken up with Rex would just distract her. You don't know that. And this is typical Rochelle, by the way, because it always ends up like this. How do you mean? Oh, leaving the minute things get tricky. I can't help pushing because she needs to show those Bens she loves them. I can't do any more if she won't even try. I think she might be doing her best, Joy. And I'm sorry to say it, but haven't you made things worse by scaring Rex off like that? I mean, surely she's got every right to be angry with you for interfering. Interfering? I'm not the one interfering here, am I? You've admitted you know nothing. So tell me, what's the point when you couldn't possibly understand? Why couldn't I understand? I'm not stupid, you know. You won't ever understand that kind of bond, will you? How it really feels between parent and child. Because you've not got children. What? Well, that wasn't by choice, but it's true. Well, I think I'll go to the ball for me tea. I don't know how long I'll be. Suit yourself. I will. Oh, Rochelle. I'm Matthew. Side and sideways. My podcast from BBC Radio 4 brings you stories of seeing the world differently. 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