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One of the most important timing techniques in astrology is the technique known as transits, where you look at where a planet is in the sky and when it lines up with a placement in the birth chart, often an important event will happen in a person's life. I've always focused on both sign based as well as degree based transits. But in this webinar I want to really emphasize the importance of degree based transits. Especially when a transit goes exact within 1 degree of orb or, or even goes exact to the minute. These are incredibly potent time periods for events to happen in a person's life. Both really major events, as well as somewhat moderate or even minor events, sometimes can be described by exact transits to the birth chart. So today I'm doing a webinar with a group of patrons and we're going to go through and talk through some examples of exact transits that happen in people's charts and what happened in their life when those transits went exact. All right, so where do we start here? So over the past few years, during the course of my work, one of the things that I did in reviving ancient astrology is I revived a sign based approach to astrology where when we go back and look at the ancient texts, we can see that the ancient astrologers were taking into account both sign based transits and placements, as well as degree based planets like placements and transits. So they would pay attention to, for example, an aspect begins when two planets are aspecting each other by sign, or when they become configured by sign. But it grows more intense the closer the aspect gets to an exact aspect to the degree. And this is a paradigm that we see coming up over and over again in ancient astrology. In modern times, the degree based approach to things was very well worked out because everything really moved in an almost hyper degree based focus during the course of the late 20th century and early 21st century in terms of astrology. So when I came into astrology, or at least got into Hellenistic astrology in the mid-2000s, something that was new and innovative was the idea that there could be degree based aspects, or that you should pay attention to a degree based conjunction, for example. And so a large part of my work was reviving that ancient sign based approach to working with not just natal placements, but also transits. For example, I've been one of the loudest proponents who has promoted the idea that the Saturn return begins as soon as Saturn returns to its natal sign, and it isn't over until Saturn departs from the natal sign, even if the most important period of activity is when the Saturn return goes exact the degree. And I saw some astrologers commenting on that recently and wondering where that came from. And I think I was largely responsible for that or at least partially responsible for that because I've seen that as such a potent technique, especially when you're paying attention to in a whole sign house context, the fact that when Saturn returns back to its natal sign, it's also moving through that whole sign house for the duration of that entire transit. And that's often wrapped up in some of the themes of what the Saturn return is all about out. So I feel like I've established the sign based approach pretty well, not just as Saturn returns, but also in recent years with things like retrogrades and eclipses. But I've been really into transits and tracking my own transits and other people's transits over the past few years, especially as I've been doing some of the retrograde work and other things like that and just paying attention to transits when they go exact. And I'm continually. I've always been. It's not something I've ever not paid attention to, but I'm often, continually impressed at how an event will manifest when a transit is within a degree of going exact, especially when it's within one degree of applying or even one degree separating. Oftentimes there will manifest a specific event in the person's life and it doesn't always have to be a major event, but something significant will happen when a transit, it goes exact. And to me, this has always been one of the most impressive parts of astrology that I feel is the most compelling because of how consistently that happens and how closely it often aligns to the exact transit, sometimes down to within minutes of the transit going exact. So yeah, I want to clarify this degree based approach and I would like to emphasize it and make sure that's clear in everybody's minds because it's a really potent and powerful tool both for prediction as well as for looking at your own chart and understanding events coming up as well as the timeline associated with those events. Okay, so here's the little diagram. Imagine that let's say Mars is at 5 degrees of Aquarius in your birth chart. And let's say that it's in your fourth house. So let's say we're having a transit of Mercury comes up to 4 degrees of Aquarius and 5 degrees of Aquarius and it conjoins Mars. So that means that this transit, the way I Often conceptualize it. And the way I see it actually experienced is almost like a graph. Where when it gets within that 1 degree range. Which in this instance would mean as soon as Mercury gets to about 4 degrees of Aquarius, About a degree from Mars, not just to the degree, but also to the minute. So if Mars is at 5 degrees and 30 minutes of Aquarius, then the 1 degree range begins at 4 degrees and 30 minutes of Aquarius, exactly 1 degree earlier. And then there's just this intense spike that begins increasing at that point. All the way to the point that the conjunction goes exact when it's at its most intense. And then immediately once in this instance, Mercury starts separating from Mars. There's a downslope where it starts to dissipate. Especially once it gets more than 1 degree from Mars or 1 degree from the exact transit. The event associated with the transit often starts to drop off or dissipate or move into the past rapidly. Once you get outside of the 1 degree range. So that's a really simple, basic concept. And theoretically, it's something like everybody learns when they first learn transits. But I really want to emphasize it here because it's such a crucial technique. And it's something that everybody should be paying attention to regularly in terms of their own transits. And when you pay attention to that range, you're going to start seeing things. You're going to start seeing very interesting things. About how astrology works. And how it lines up as a timing technique. So I've been tracking this, especially over the past year in my own chart. Especially with Mars transits Where, starting in last fall, Mars started going through Scorpio. And it would just conjoin almost every planet in my chart over the next several months. And I was often surprised at how literal the events were that would occur. Especially within Mars was within a degree. And. And because I have a day chart and Mars is more tricky in my chart. They were often like a crisis or some sort of problem would arise. When Mars was within one degree. For example, just a few weeks ago, one that happened was that Mars hit 5 degrees of Pisces in my second house. And it squared the degree of my IC at 5 degrees of Gemini. And what happened is that day, about five minutes before the transit went exact. I noticed there was a leak in the ceiling of my place, basically my home. And there was this dark brown, smelly liquid that was dripping out of a fire suppression pipe. That had become damaged for some reason. And was dripping through a vent onto my floor. And then what ended up Happening is I had to get people to come out to fix it. And they had to cut a big hole in the ceiling. And it was a whole ordeal. But it began when the planet Mars was squaring the degree of my ic. With the IC representing the home and the living situation. And then basically a negative event happened in my home on that day. Almost to the minute of when the transit went exact. So that's an example of the type of event that I'm looking for here. In terms of the type of things that you'll see. And for a lot of people, you know, it's gonna be in terms of people trying to remember it. Unless you're tracking it recently. We may only remember the biggest transits or the outer planet transits. Or the ones that were more consequential. But it's actually happening all the time. So let's set up some of the ranges. So people, though, sometimes get tripped up in terms of expectations. Because they might always expect it to be a major event that happens that coincides with the transit going exact. However, sometimes it's a major event that coincides with the transit. But other times it could be an event of moderate importance in your life. Or it could be an event of very little importance in your life. But nonetheless, something still happens at that time. That impacts you and is related to your life in some way. So we have to pay attention to the whole range of really important, middling importance and very not important types of events. Additionally, sometimes a transit will manifest as a concrete external event. That happens in your circumstances in your life. But sometimes it will just manifest in a psychological context of being in an irritable mood someday. If you're having a Mars transit. Or let's say feeling overly depressed or slow one day, if you're having a Saturn transit, if it's a Venus transit, maybe you're feeling particularly positive or optimistic, and so on and so forth. So the exact transit can manifest sometimes as an external event. And sometimes as an internal event of some sort. Which also trips people up. If they're not paying attention to that range of possibilities. Other options are. Sometimes a transit will coincide with an event that happens in your life. That you're aware of exactly as it's happening. Let's say you get into a car crash. You're aware that that is happening right when the transit goes exact. But other times a transit will go exact and something important will happen that impact your life. But it won't be immediately visible to you or evident at that time. So I remember there was A course or a digital file or something I had out there. And it got posted somewhere one day. And then I found out about it later. But it wasn't until I found out about it that I realized what the bad transit was that I had that day. In retrospect, that something negative if it happened to me because somebody shared my book or something online or something like that. But I didn't find out what the bad transit was, what the manifestation was, until later. But it turned out that it wasn't that the transit hadn't coincided with an event. It was just that I wasn't aware of the event that was impacting my life on the day that the transit went exact. And that's a tricky part in terms of this as well. But it's one that's important to pay attention to because sometimes or oftentimes you will find out at some point in the future about what happened with that transit. But it's only if you're paying attention that you'll sometimes connect it with the transit later on. Okay, so those are all basic things. Leisa Schaim and I did a whole episode on Transits where we went into a lot of this. More so I won't continue to belabor it too much. But now I want to talk about some of the examples that were sent in by listeners. And I put out a call for examples on social media, and a bunch of people sent those in. And then I also have some patrons that I'm going to interview here today. Let me read just a few of the submissions that were sent in on social media, because there was a few good ones that I wanted to highlight. So one of the people. And I'm going to skip. Well, there's one person named Tara who sent in one that said when transiting Mars went exact conjunct my natal Mars in the seventh house, my divorce came through. When it retrograded from there and hit my descendant, my ex reached out. After 23 years, when Mars started moving and hit my descendant again, I finally saw his message. So I liked this one because on the one hand, that's a pretty straightforward symbolism of the first direct hit, that when Mars was exactly conjunct natal Mars in the seventh house, a divorce was finalized. So Mars usually represents severing and separation, and the seventh house represents marriage. So in that instance, we have a very literal manifestation on the day of the exact transit of the separation of the marriage being finalized. But then the rest of this brings up other things about how there's different ways that you can Identify whether a transit's gonna be more important or less important. And some of that has to do with things like profections. For example, you can use the annual profections timing technique to tell if a transit's gonna be more important in a given year. If that planet happens to be the ruler of the year or the lord of the year. In annual profections, you know that it's gonna be more important. Other ways that transits can be more important, or an exact transit can be more important is if the transiting planet is actually stationing on that exact degree or is going retrograde there so that it's going to pass over that degree three times. And sometimes when that happens, it signals the unfolding of a series of events that's going to take place over an extended period of time. And I've talked about that a lot in episodes over the past year. But this is also a good example because it showed the other thing I was just talking about, which is they said that when the second exact Mars transit hit in the seventh house, their ex reached out after 23 years. And this would have been when Mars was retrograde, conjoining the descendant. But they didn't get the message, basically. But then when the third transit happened, they finally saw the message. And that would have been weeks later. So that underlines one of the points I was making, that sometimes a transit can go exact and it can indicate something important's happening, but you're not aware of it yet. But oftentimes you will become aware of it later on. So that was a good one. Another one, Stephanie, Iris Weiss, sent in a good example where she said my bookcase piled. Well, the setup was Pluto Square Mercury in the eighth house. That was the transit. And she said, my bookcase, piled heavy with decades of books that inform my work and worldview, imploded from the inside. It didn't topple or fall over. The shelves just crashed on top of each other, Pushing all of my books to the Hadean bottom of the bookcase. So this is a really good example. Just because it was Pluto. Exactly. Squaring Mercury in the eighth house and squaring Mercury especially within a degree. And then just having the destruction, basically of all of these books suddenly in the bookshelf, just imploding suddenly almost from the inside. So that's a pretty good example. Thanks to Stephanie for sending that in on social media. A person named Sarah sent in one where they said, transiting Mars in Leo in the sixth house. Exactly. Trinatal Mars in Sagittarius. Exact within one minute. The event was the day this hit. Exactly. I was literally on the operating table having a c section at 45 years old. Mars didn't show up as a conflict for me. It showed up as precision, it showed up as surgery, and it brought my son into the world. So I thought that was a great positive example of sometimes Mars in the sixth house and sometimes the health or bodily things that come up with the sixth house. But because it's a trine, it was a positive manifestation where she's having literally surgery, her body is being cut into, which is a Mars signification. But in order to bring new life into the world, which is a really beautiful manifestation of that. And that's another tricky thing that I should bring up, that sometimes it's the difficult transits that stand out the biggest in our heads sometimes because they often coincide with the most obvious events. Whereas sometimes people have trouble remembering the more positive ones. Sometimes. And that can be tricky sometimes when you're working with clients or when you're trying to collect examples. But you can still see it if you're paying attention in your own life in terms of a day to day basis and having positive transits. But sometimes it's like in our memory, a pleasant day where we went to the park and really enjoyed ourselves. Doesn't stand out as much as, I don't know, the day that we had surgery or the day that a car accident happened or something like that. This was a good simple one. Christina sent in this one that said transiting Mars exactly conjoined the IC in her chart, the degree of the ic. And she said a few years ago there was a woodpecker in our basement. The day Mars was exact on my ic, I looked it up and found that woodpeckers are associated with Mars, the Roman God of war. So I thought that was a really good one because a woodpecker is like annoying thing that's making sound. There's an animal in there that's presumably hitting its head against the wood and making a lot of noise. And so it's a sudden kind of intrusion of having a wild animal in your house that's making a lot of noise or destroying things and having it right on your IC like that on the same exact day. And I like that because it's a good example of what I said of a lower level significance transit that happens. But nonetheless, in this instance it stands out because it fits the symbolism of Mars as well as the symbolism of, in this instance, the exact degree of the ic, which again is the home and the living situation. So it's like, for me, I was having Mars square my IC from Pisces, and then there was a leak in my house, and they had to cut out part of the ceiling and start construction. And then for Christina, it was like Mars conjoining the IC and having a woodpecker in her house suddenly. I've seen other examples. I have one. I think I used it in my book. That combined with profections of a guy who. He had Mars conjoined his IC and his house caught on fire and then burned down with all of his possessions on the exact day of Mars conjoining the degree of his ic. So there's lots of different manifestations and different levels of severity, just depending on what the profections are doing, whether there's a retrograde, whether it's also going retrograde, and other things like that. All right, so there's others I could go into, but I'm gonna save those. And I want to interview some patrons now that are here to talk about and hear some stories directly from people. So let me look and see at what the most upvoted ones were. Okay, I'm going to do the top two. So, Charles, if you're still here, I'd love to talk to you first. All right, thanks for joining me.
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Thanks for having us.
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What's your birth data?
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4-29-88.
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All right, so here is your chart with the transits. So the transit. Give me the setup. And what was. What was the story here? Sure, yeah.
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I had started a job a week prior, and so, yeah, this. I. I'm in a Virgo profection year in my second house, and I got this job. So Mercury also rules the 11th. I was. Got this job through a friend, and I started out just as one of the, like, the. The clients there.
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It's like a.
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It's a wellness center. And I was hired there just to participate in, like, their workforce program. And on my second week there is when Mercury when retrograde station direct on the degree of this. Of my ascendant. And then it's, uh, pretty much like that day or the day after was when I was then promoted to, like, a case manager position where I'd be like, leading groups. And I mean, it was the first time in, like, well over a decade that I had, like, a salary at least for. It lasted for at least a couple of months. So, you know, Mercury, I think it was. Was interesting. It was sort of the joker. But yeah, that's. The general setup was just like a Large like pay increase in a second house. Perfection year.
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Nice, I love that. So you got a promotion basically the day that Mercury was exactly conjoining your ascendant while you were in a Mercury profection year that was activating your second house of money and finances.
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Absolutely, yeah. And I thought interestingly also Pluto was fairly conjunct the descendant. And then also my natal Pluto
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had
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Lilith conjunct, which Lilith's in my first house. So I also kind of found that significance there also to some degree. And then the moon at the time was conjunct my mc.
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Nice. Okay, so you knew it almost down to the minute that that day the Moon was conjoining your midheaven, which I see it was at 21 Aries. Yeah, that's a really important one when you see the moon triggering things as well because it moves so swiftly. But the days that it does do something notable or coincides with something, it really stands out. And you said that. Okay, I see it. So Mercury had actually been retrograde and then it stationed. What was the date that we were looking at again? The 7th or 8th?
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No, I think it was the 13th or 14th.
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Okay, got it. So. And you said you had gotten the job originally like two weeks earlier.
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It was just a week prior. So it was like the first full week of August, I believe I had started like that Tuesday. And then it was either the following Wednesday or Thursday.
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Promotion. Got it. Okay. So yeah, as you were saying, this was Mercury retrograding back and basically stationing direct right on top of your ascendant while it was the Lord of the year and the ruler of the second house. So this is basically taking into account all of the filtering mechanisms that I had talked about at the beginning, which is like profections, since Mercury is the Lord of the year, so its exact transits are going to be more important. And then retrogrades that when a planet retrogrades and especially stations on the degree of something in your chart, especially something important like in your instance the ascendant, that those are going to stand out as even more important events than otherwise. So that's a beautiful example.
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Oh, and then I. I also forgot to mention I thought it was interesting that the nodes were fairly conjunct also with my natal nodes at the time.
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Right, and your second. Second, yeah.
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And. And that it was like a very temporary thing where it like. I mean I. I still am working where I was promoted, but it was like it was temporary in that we all received a pay cut maybe a couple of months later or a few Months later and we're still there, but. Yeah, it's just like. It was like. I don't know. I thought that was interesting because with my south node in my second house, but then with the north and eighth of shared resources, getting away from personal finances.
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Yeah, well, and just. That also means eclipses and are still taking place in your second and eighth house axis. So there's a lot of fluctuation and major beginnings and endings and going back and forth there in just the financial axis. And that's something that's still playing out. And you're about to have a birthday, so you're actually about to switch out of this profection year and go into a third house profection year. Right. Correct.
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Yeah.
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Nice. Okay, cool. All right. Well, I think that's a great example to start off with, just because it was exact right on your ascendant, and it fit all those. Those criteria. So that's pretty good.
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Great.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, thanks for joining me. I just say. Thanks for sharing. All right, so let's go to the second example, and I'll just go through as many as I can here. Bebe, are you here? Hey, thanks for joining me.
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Hey,
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how do you usually pronounce your name?
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Bebe?
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Okay. Sorry. I was like.
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No, you're good.
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You actually got it right the first time.
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First time, yeah. And I started questioning myself. What's Your birth data?
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October 10, 1993.
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Do you know the date that we're looking at?
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Yeah. So March 7, 2022.
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Okay, so we're looking at March 7, 2024. And give us the setup for what we're looking at.
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Yeah, So I was in an abusive marriage, and we actually had been separated for two years before that. So I, like, moved out in 2022. And that morning on March 7, I just was like. Because over the two years, I was trying to make it work, but that morning, I was just like, nope, this isn't working. I'm gonna, you know, file for divorce. I'm gonna cut you off. I blocked him. Blocked his number, blocked him on social media and everything. And I just. Just remember going to file for the paperwork the next day or within the next couple days.
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Wow.
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Okay. So this was basically you decided to fully exit the marriage and to cut off your ex.
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Yeah. And that was my seventh house profection year, too.
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Right, so you had. And let me see. So just to clarify, because I see several things going on here, but was it 2024 or. Actually, no, this is 2023. It should be 2023. Right
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on 2024 on my.
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Just trying to clarify what the transit is in the description. You said Saturn was at 0 Pisces
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or it was the transiting Venus conjunct my natal Saturn.
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Got it. That's what you're going to. Okay, got it. So there I see it now because it's like you're in a seventh house profection here. You have Saturn in your seventh house. It's just past your descendant. So it's actually not super far from your descendant. But then on this very day, Venus was conjoining your natal Saturn as well. And that was like the primary transit was just realizing that that was it and you were done.
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Yeah.
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Nice.
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And interestingly enough, when you started this webinar, I was sitting here looking even further back. The day that I moved out, Saturn was like transiting Saturn was conjunct my natal Saturn.
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Saturn was conjunct. Okay, so that was part of your Saturn return story.
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Yeah.
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Do you happen to know what day that was?
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That was April 30, 2022. That's why I said 2022 on accident at first.
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Got it. Okay, so that's another exact one and that one's even closer. So your Natal Saturn's at 2353 Aquarius and your. And transiting Saturn was at 2414 Aquarius. So on pretty much the day of your Saturn return, you decided to move out and not fully end the relationship, but to start the process.
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Yeah.
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Okay, nice. And that's also again interesting because now Mars is going through pisces in your 11th and it's just off your descendant. So I'm assuming there was probably something in the few days before that that like precipitated that or led up to it or.
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Yeah, actually I was in the hospital and the day that he picked me up from the hospital, it was just awful the way he was treating me. And that's why I was like, I, I can't stay with you at the house. And I moved out.
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Wow. Okay. And it was the day that he picked you up.
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D
Yes.
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A
Okay, so then the hospital visit itself
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is shortly was like the 25th. It started the 25th.
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Okay. So yeah, that was right when Mars was actually conjoining your descendant within one degree. And transiting Saturn was actually even closer to your sixth house Saturn exact transit. What if I can ask, why did. Where were you in the hospital?
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So it was for a suicide attempt. And I know that like my. I'm going through a lot of trauma therapy right now, but from the way like my ex treated me and he was an alcoholic and, you know, he was very psychologically abusive and emotionally abusive and. Yeah, and I had gone to the hospital to, you know, deal with my own mental health issues. And the way that he treated me when I got out, you know, literally just within hours of picking me up, I couldn't, I couldn't stay there anymore, you know, after just spending, you know, a few days trying to take care of myself and.
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Right, yeah, yeah, that makes complete sense. So it's like we're seeing all of the different themes of 6th House, Saturn return and health and being in a hospital. And then Mars is going over your descendant during all of this and he's being a jerk. But one of the things that's fascinating about. You said April 30th was the day you decided to move out.
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Yes.
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One of the things I love is that Venus was exactly conjoining Jupiter in your seventh house on that day. And so just objectively, the astrology was saying something good is happening that day in your love life, while at the same time simultaneously there's two negative transits, especially Mars going through the 7th, and something bad or there's a severing or separation that's happening. But that's really descriptive then and makes so much sense that you took the first step towards freeing yourself from a not good relationship and something positive happening there and then presumably opening it up so that you could have more fulfilling and successful relationships in the future.
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E
Yeah, I commented on the post and Patreon, but later that year in 2022, I met my current partner in November and there was, I think Pluto was transiting my south node, so, you know, just breaking old patterns. And we didn't start dating, you know, that year. We didn't start dating until 2024.
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Oh, right.
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You had a whole story about that because it was like three transits, but it showed that you had met somebody important, right?
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Yeah, because it was also conjoining my vertex. There were some other ones conjoining my vertex. Yeah, Got it.
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Okay. Yeah. So it opened you up to meet them and then you've been together for a while since then, right?
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Yes.
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Nice. Okay, well, that's a really good example then. And that shows. It's great because it shows. And then the divorce was finalized in or you said 2024 was when you
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decided to do it. Yeah, so I finalized it. I don't remember the exact date, but it was in April of 2024.
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Okay, got it.
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Yeah.
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I want to say it was like mid April, but
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Mid April. Okay, well, that's kind of funny just because then Mars is actually back to your descendant than where it was when you first left. Yeah. All right. Well, this showed several different things where obviously we all have multiple things going on in our charts at any one time sometimes because lives are complicated and there's different factors that are coming into play. But this is a really good example of the exact Saturn return and that being important. Positive transits and negative transits happening at the same time, even in the same house. And how you can have something that probably felt somewhat wrenching and hard to do, but necessary at the time, but then was also positive at the same time. And how sometimes the. Even the most difficult transits and experiences in our life can sometimes open it up and set things up for more positive experiences later on, which is kind of what makes them necessary, because sometimes if we hadn't had that, then we wouldn't have met somebody else who ends up becoming the love of our life or what have you.
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E
Right.
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Yeah. So that was good. Thanks for sharing that. That's a really good example.
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E
Yeah. Thank you.
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Okay, I'll just start going through the most upvoted ones. So, Karen, it looks like you're next. That had the Mars opposite Pluto transit. Are you still here? Hey.
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H
Hi.
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G
Hi, Chris.
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Hey, thanks for joining me. What's Your birth data?
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April 27, 1957.
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What's the date of the event?
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We're looking at It's April 25, 1992.
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Oh, yeah, there it is. Okay. And the setup you said in the description is that you were in a Jupiter profection year and on this date your father passed away when transiting Mars opposed your natal Jupiter.
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H
Right.
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G
It was an 11th House profection year, and it's right near my birthday. As you can see. I was just about to switch over to 12th House Saturn year, and my dad had been ill for many months. It was not entirely a surprise, but still painful.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. And Jupiter's in your eighth house, which is often the house that has to do with death and mortality and things surrounding that. And we see, for the audio listeners we're looking at, Mars is exactly at 22 Pisces, almost very closely opposing Jupiter at 22 Virgo in the 8th House. And you have Aquarius rising. As you were saying, you were in the tail end of an 11th house profection year. And your 11th whole sign house is Sagittarius, where we also find Saturn, which is also a little tricky in terms of activating that, especially since you have a night chart. And Saturn natally is Squaring Jupiter a little bit widely, but nonetheless.
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G
And also it was like the monthly Scorpio month because it was the last month of that 11th House year. So Scorpio or Mars was kind of like the monthly ruler opposing my annual Time Lord, which I always thought. I find sometimes those monthly ones are very accurate too.
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A
Yeah, absolutely. And it also brings up. I'm glad this is a great example because like you said, you're in the last two days of this 11th House profection year. But nonetheless, the Lord of the year getting hit by that tough transit of that opposition from Mars is still really potent, even if it is the end of that profection year. I had actually the same exact thing happen when my sister passed away. I was in a Jupiter profection year and it was the last week of that profection year. And then transiting Mars opposed my natal Jupiter and she got in a car accident and passed away. So it's a really similar. It's interesting just seeing this because it immediately makes me think of that in terms of just the profection year being active all the way up until the last moment.
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G
Yeah, well, weirdly, when my mom passed away, Mars squared Jupiter, I was in a fifth house year and Mars was in Gemini squaring Jupiter the day she passed away too, which was kind of weird.
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A
Wow. What was the date of that?
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G
August 14, 2009.
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A
August 14, 2009. Oh, wow. So, yeah, Mars, like, exactly again. So Mars here is at 22 degrees of Gemini. This is like years later. And Mars is at 22 Gemini squaring Jupiter again at 22 Virgo. Although now we've got the addition of Saturn is there basically on top of Jupiter. And coming up on that conjunction.
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G
And I think the monthly for that event, I'm pretty sure was the Virgo the eighth house as well.
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A
Okay.
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G
It was like a fifth house year, but that was the monthly had come to the eighth.
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A
And Mercury, I see even Mercury there, but it's really far from the sun, so Mercury must be stationing. Let me animate it. So you're in a Gemini, a Mercury profection year.
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G
Oh, yeah. I hadn't. Yeah.
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A
So August 14th. Let me animate it. So 1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 20. Okay, it was a little bit far away. It was about two weeks away or so from stationing. And then it would station in Libra and retrograde back into Virgo and hit the Cazimi and stuff. So I'm assuming that that was. Oh, wow. And then it would station direct on top of Your Jupiter since she was your second parent. Was there like inheritance stuff after that or were there?
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G
Yeah, there was actually. Now that I'm thinking about that it was kind of a delay with the inheritance a little bit just because my one sister that was executor was having some health problems. But otherwise it was. Yeah, yeah, there was some inheritance then.
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A
Got it. Okay. And just a process in terms of after she died, I guess I'm assuming doing some of the things that come after that in terms of.
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G
Yeah, the paperwork kind of was slowed down due to my sister's issues that she was having. But eventually it all got resolved, everything was fine.
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A
Got it. Okay. Yeah, so those are both then pretty impactful in terms of weirdly having the same exact Mars transit both times with a hard aspect to Jupiter in your eighth house of mortality in both instances. And yeah, that's pretty stunning. And that makes sense just in terms of sometimes some of the most important events in our life having a notable exact transit, aligning when. When that takes place.
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G
Yeah, yeah, I know that. That's one of the ones that would have been the most exact that I've ever noticed. I've found getting exact ones a lot of times the transit is like close, but not always necessarily right on the degree.
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A
Yeah, I think it's tricky because there's more broadly a range of. By the time they move into the sign based aspect, it begins the transit and it gets more and more intense the closer they get to the exact degree, which is kind of. We're demonstrating the one degree, the really tight ones today, but there is more of a range realistically in terms of events happening, not always falling exactly within that degree range. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, thanks for sharing that. That's a really good.
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G
Thank you for all you do. I appreciate all your efforts and the podcast has just really meant a lot to me. So appreciate it.
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A
Thank you. Well, thanks for contributing a great example to it now today. All right, take care.
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G
Yep, you too.
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A
Okay, Josh, with the Mars transit and the job layoff, if you're still here. Hey, thanks for joining me.
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I
Yeah, thanks for having me.
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A
What's your birth data?
- [45:26]
I
1121, 1990.
- [45:30]
A
And what is the date of the event? We're looking at January 13th, I think. Let me double check.
- [45:38]
I
Yeah, January 13th at 8am 2026.
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A
Since I'm animating, I'm just going to approximate the time. All right, there we go. And so for those listening, what's the setup? You said this was a transit that coincided with a job loss. Yeah.
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I
So I got a message that morning that I had been impacted by layoffs at my job and immediately realized, like, oh, Mars is transiting my natal Saturn, and Mars is currently my time Lord. I'm in a 10th house profection year, if we profect from the law of fortune.
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A
Where's Fortune? I don't have that.
- [46:22]
I
Fortune is in Taurus at 10 degrees of Taurus.
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A
So 12th house year, 10 degrees of Taurus. Okay, you're in a 12th house year
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I
10th if it's from Fortune. But yeah, 12th house from Fortune.
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A
Yeah, got it. Okay. And I see so you had a job loss on this day. Saturn is at 2135 Capricorn natally and transiting Mars was at 20 to 28ish Capricorn. So, yeah, you were having exact Mars transit to your Saturn. This is a night chart because your sun is in Sagittarius in the sixth house. So Saturn is the more difficult and sensitive placement for you in terms of getting a natal transit to that position. How long had you been at that job for?
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I
I had been there for four years. And what's interesting is the first day on the job, April 4, 2022, was an exact Saturn, Mars conjunction in Aquarius at 22 degrees Aquarius.
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A
Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. 22 degrees of Aquarius in your eighth house. That's interesting because your eighth house was also coming up in the other one because you have. Pluto was very close to your moon in the eighth house in the layoff, which was. You said January 13th. Mm.
- [47:44]
I
Yep. Oh, also, my. My birthday is November 21st, not 22nd. So there's just the sun and the moon are slightly off everything else.
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A
Got it, got it, got it. Okay, let me redo that then. So Your birthday is November 21st.
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I
21st. Yep.
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A
Okay, here we go. Does this look right?
- [48:04]
I
Yep, that's correct.
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A
All right, so that. That actually makes the transit even more important just because your moon is natally at 20 degrees of Capricorn.
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I
Yep.
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A
Okay. Got it. All right, so, yeah, you've got a lot of stuff going on here then. Your Midheaven is at 8 degrees of Pisces. So the nodes are transiting there, which means you've also had eclipses going on in that axis, which is also bringing in some career stuff. So this is a big. Losing a job that you've been in it for four years is a pretty big loss or pretty big hit, I'm assuming, right?
- [48:45]
I
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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A
Okay. Just trying to understand the sort of magnitude of it and trying to think if there's other Questions I had. But that's pretty straightforward just in terms of that hit to the natal Saturn. And with Saturn ruling the eighth house, maybe bringing in some financial focus in terms of the implications of that for you.
- [49:13]
I
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. The symbolism felt really, really apt for me. Like Saturn in the seventh house contracts Mars separation from contracts. It was all very literal. And the funny thing is, two days prior, when Mars had been exactly conjunct my natal noon, I had a tattoo like needles on the skin. So I was. There are some very, very exact transits right there, right in a row with the symbol.
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A
Yeah, I love that. There was another lady that had Mars conjunct the moon in the first house, and she did needling or something like that, and she said her whole face turned red. So I love that you're mentioning that here. That wasn't your first tattoo, but had you done that before?
- [49:57]
I
I have, yeah. And I only started paying attention to transits this year, and I've had two tattoos in that time. Neither of them have. I haven't planned them around transits at all. But both of them have been Mars moon transits. One was transiting Mars conjunct my natal moon, and the other one was the moon conjunct my natal Mars.
- [50:19]
A
Nice. I love that. And what was the. Do you know the day that it was happening? Because this is reminding me this is the whole triple conjunction of Venus and the sun and Mars.
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I
The tattoo would have been the Saturday before the 13th. So it's January 11th.
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A
PM why is it telling me that the Saturday was the 10th?
- [50:46]
I
I may have just done the math wrong in my head. Let's see. The 13th was a Tuesday or a Monday.
- [50:55]
A
The 13th itself, it's saying, was a Tuesday.
- [50:59]
I
Oh, that's weird. Oh, I'm looking at 2020. That's why my calendar is on 2025. Let me jump to 2026.
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A
The Monday would have been.
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I
Yeah, so it was Thursday. It was the 13th is correct for the layoff. Saturday was the 10th.
- [51:14]
A
Yep. Cool. Okay. Yeah. So then it's this whole triple conjunction of like you were saying sun and Mars. Exactly. On the moon. But even Venus was sort of there as well, which I like that because there's an aesthetic component to how you're getting poked with a needle that day as well.
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I
Yeah.
- [51:32]
A
Yeah, that's pretty good. Okay, I like that. Well, and that also brings up a good point that I meant to make, but it completely spaced out but was worth making here, which is that a transit and an exact transit. It isn't always just one event. But sometimes there's multiple things that will happen to you under the same transit that will be symbolically similar, even if they're completely different events. So in this case, it's like happening around the same transits. You get major work done with a needle in terms of your skin and getting a tattoo, but then at the same time, you get a layoff just a few days later, sort of under similar transits, activating similar placements. And so sometimes that can happen. And I've seen that a lot as I've been tracking my own of sometimes an important day will happen, and then you'll have two or three different things happen at once that are all separate things in your life but somehow symbolically connected with the same transit or transits. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. That was a good example.
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I
Yeah, thank you.
- [52:45]
A
All right, take care. All right. Awesome. Yeah, so pay attention to that. It's a really important point, and we'll probably see more of this as we go through, but it's not always. Even though we're focusing on what was the singular event that happened under this transit, that's another thing that people should pay attention to that can trip people up is that there can be multiple things happening under the same transit that manifest different ranges of the symbolism of whatever that transit is. It's not always one singular event. All right, so let me go back and see what the next example is. And if everybody could continue to vote on by clicking the Q and A button, like, which one they think I should do next. I'd appreciate it. Marine, if you're still here with the transiting Pluto story, let me know in the chat if you want to share it. Hey, what's your birth data?
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J
May 21, 1956.
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A
What's the date that we're looking at?
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K
Yep.
- [53:55]
J
November 2, 2024.
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A
See? So here is the chart, and I'm going to do an approximate time since we're focused on outer planet transits. You said you were traveling and you got sick?
- [54:14]
J
Yeah, I was traveling with my church. We were on a pilgrimage, and we were in Lourdes, France. I got sick with norovirus. A bunch of us came down with a terrible stomach bug. And from throwing up, I wound up with a compression fracture on my spine. And so you can see Pluto was exactly opposite my natal Uranus. And Mars was also conjunct natal Uranus as well at the time.
- [54:54]
G
Wow.
- [54:54]
A
Okay, so you. So you were like. You were throwing up so violently that you broke your. Your neck?
- [55:02]
J
My spine. The spine. Yeah, the L2.
- [55:06]
A
Wow.
- [55:07]
J
When I finally got home, I had to have back surgery. It's also worth noting I had an eclipse in my sixth house in Libra earlier, about a month before that. That was like October 2nd, I think.
- [55:25]
A
Yeah, that would have been. Yeah, right in Libra. Well, there's a lot going on here. I mean, so your ascendant itself is at early 26 Taurus. And transiting Uranus was retrograde at 2550 Taurus. So it was really very closely conjunct your ascendant with the recorded birth time. It was within, what, 15 minutes. So that is an exact transit itself where you have Uranus conjoining your ascendant and there's this unexpected bodily disruption that takes place. But then at the same time in the sky, transiting Mars was at 29 cancer, opposing transiting Pluto at 29 Capricorn. And this was right on top of your natal Uranus at 29 degrees of. Of cancer. And it's interesting that you were in
- [56:21]
J
a ninth house profection year.
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A
Oh, okay, nice. So you're in a ninth house, because I was just about to say you were traveling. You're in a foreign country at this time. So that's part of why the third house ninth house axis is getting activated there and getting lit up. And you're actually in a ninth house profection year. So that's even more striking in terms of why the Pluto transit at 29 Capricorn would be really potent in activating that opposition with Uranus. And I guess that's why the third house component is coming in. Because the effect that it had and the impact that it had is that in injuring your neck in that way, it probably seriously impacted your mobility from that point forward.
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J
Oh, yeah. I mean, just before the trip, I found out I had to have a hip replacement. So, you know, I had a cane with me, but the pain from the broken spine was unbearable. And then we still had to go to Barcelona to catch the flight home. So it was. It was not a fun trip.
- [57:29]
A
Wow. Yeah. That sounds really rough.
- [57:31]
C
Yeah.
- [57:32]
A
How are you? So it's a year and a half now, almost later. Like how. How are you now? Or how's your mobility at this point?
- [57:40]
J
I mean, it's good, but I still have back pain. If I'm on my feet too long or walking for long distances, I don't think it'll ever be the same. But it is what it is.
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A
Yeah. Well, and it's interesting. Uranus went into taurus back in 2018 and 2019, and that was the beginning of Uranus moving through your first house and. And probably some changes that started happening in your life and your sense of self and even your body starting at that point. But then because your ascendant is so late, the most important event of that transit probably wouldn't have occurred towards the end. We would just think, theoretically. And then that obviously is this. And now this month, actually, that transit of Uranus through your first house is finally ending as Uranus is getting ready to go into Gemini. So you're sort of moving out of that period of your life, and it sounds like are about as recovered from that as you can be in terms of getting over something that intense.
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J
Yeah. It's funny because we traveled last July to Amsterdam, and I believe it was in a Mercury retrograde, and we had nothing but problems. And then I got Covid when I got there.
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A
Oh, no.
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J
Yeah. My travels have been a little turbulent to say the least.
- [59:12]
A
Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's tough. I guess the last thing is you were in a. It looks like Mercury was at 29 Scorpio on this day. And it's interesting that that was conjoining Saturn at 29 Scorpio. And that's the Lord of the year. That's the ruler of the ninth house.
- [59:31]
H
Yes.
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C
Yes.
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A
Okay. Wow. Okay. Well, I'm glad you're okay. Just as a quick question, with Uranus going into Taurus in 2018, 2019, other Taurus rising people I know started making major radical changes in their life or especially later in life. They were pursuing the things they always wanted to pursue or doing the things that they always wanted to do from that point forward, which I know, like, two people, for example, that moved and, like, relocated to a completely different part of the country. Were there.
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J
Exactly.
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A
Yeah.
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J
We. We retired in 2016, in April. So that's.
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L
Yeah.
- [60:16]
J
10 years ago. And we left New York and we moved to Florida.
- [60:22]
A
Oh, wow. Okay. So you. Yeah. You moved to your sort of dream retirement situation at that point?
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J
I wouldn't say it's my dream retirement situation.
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A
Okay.
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J
But here I am.
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A
Well, what. When you made the move, did you have, like, aspirations that that would be a good situate retirement situation?
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J
I mean, it's something and something that my husband and I always talked about. He hates the cold. I really, really didn't want to move to Florida.
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A
Okay.
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J
But I did. And here we are. And, you know, that's why I travel a lot during the summer, because the heat, hair. It's just unbearable.
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D
So.
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A
Got it. Okay.
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K
He loves.
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J
I tolerate it. And that's where we're at.
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A
So you retired in 2016. Did you move right away or did that happen a little later?
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J
We did. We retired on April 1 and we moved on. I believe it was like the sixth or the seventh.
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A
Got it. Okay.
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J
It was pretty quick.
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A
And then it sounds like you went on two trips just in the past couple of years. So the travel part is really important is that what you've been doing in your retirement is traveling around all the different places you've always wanted to visit.
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J
We've been doing a lot of traveling in the past 10 years.
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K
Yes.
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J
I also, you know, was very heavily into animal rescue with different non profit organizations here as well as before I retired in New York. And now it's funny because I have a pile up of planets in my 12th house and I am going to volunteer at one of the local hospitals and considering ends of life doula care.
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A
Oh wow. Nice. For animals or for people?
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J
Oh no, for people.
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A
For people. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, I like the moon Neptune conjunction you have in your sixth house and just the sense of compassion for taking care of animals or people in. In not good positions. So that makes a lot of sense.
- [62:47]
M
Yeah.
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A
Cool. All right, well, thanks for sharing that example. I'm sorry that happened, but thanks for sharing it so we could all learn something from it. I think that was really compelling.
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J
Well, thank you for having me and have a good weekend.
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A
All right, thanks. I don't know the episode number, but I've done an episode on annual profections. Someone's asking in the chat. So if you go to theastrologypodcastepisodes, you'll see you can do a search for profections there and you'll find it. All right. Yeah. Thank you. That was a really good example from Marine. It's tricky because as always, I always actually want to just keep talking to people and going through the chart because I always learn and I'm so fascinated each time to hear people's stories. But I'll keep moving just for the sake of focusing on this topic, hyper focusing on it and getting through as many examples as we can today. All right, so let me go to the next one. Looks like the next one is from Amy that had the Pluto Venus transit. Let me know if you're still here in the chat and if you'd like to share your example. Hey.
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D
Hi there.
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A
Thanks for joining me. What's your birth data?
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H
21074 at 7pm but my great grandma was an astrologer so we'll take the 7pm as being absolutely correct. Even though it's 29 degrees, Leo.
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A
Nice. That's cool. Having a great grandmother astrologer, that's pretty unique. What was the location? What's the date of the event we're looking at?
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H
Well, I looked back in my text to my phone, and August 2, 2021 was when I was first texting a realtor about buying a different house to live in that was separate from my husband of 24 years. Okay, so instigating event, I think, in that.
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A
So give us the. The setup or what was the. Remind me of the premise again of the event that happened around this date?
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H
I mean. Well, you know, at the time, I actually wasn't looking at astrology at all. I had kind of fallen off from looking at astrology because my life was pretty set with my business and my husband and so on. But anyway, I had this impetus to move along and I was like, I'm done with all these problems. And yeah, so I ended up. But at the same time, I was also receiving some money from my family that helped me to have some funds to be able to like, venture out and have a place of my own, so.
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A
Got it. Yeah. So in your description, you said that the transit is that you had Pluto transit your Venus. I see your Venus is at 25 Capricorn, and transiting Pluto is exactly at 25 Capricorn at this time in the sixth house. And you said when it got within a degree of that, you moved out of the house you lived in with your husband of 24 years. And also that Jupiter was conjunct your natal Jupiter in the 7th, and Saturn had just entered your 7th house.
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H
Yeah, I mean, Saturn was of course, well into my seventh. Sorry, I should have phrased it better.
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A
That's okay. Yeah. So we see transiting Pluto conjoining Venus. We also see Jupiter at 29 degrees of Aquarius, conjoining your descendant at 29 Aquarius. Exactly. So this is actually very similar to one of our earlier examples where you have, you know, difficult transits. You have Pluto conjunct Venus, you have Saturn going through the seventh house. And both of those can be like wrenching, kind of ending, sometimes metaphorical death type transits when it comes to a partner or the death of a relationship. But then at the same time, you also have a very positive transit, which is Jupiter conjoining your descendant. And in this instance, that's describing this wrenching motion of deciding to leave and separate from your partner, but that ultimately being a choice for you and being a positive choice that you made out of Your own personal volition.
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H
Yeah, that puts it perfectly. Thank you.
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A
So 24 years is, like a long time to be together. Was there a thing that set you off or why did you decide to end it at this time? In terms of how it lined up with these transits?
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H
I honestly couldn't say because, I mean, we went through marriage counseling so many times from 23 years before that time. So, yeah, thank you, Pluto, because I'm much happier now.
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A
Okay, so you just weren't happy?
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H
I mean, I felt like so many things had piled up and there was an instigating event where one of our. My. My ex husband and I, a mutual friend of ours, had had a bad fight with her husband, and she had said how it was like a marriage breaker. And my ex husband was like, yeah, that's a marriage breaker. And I was like, like, let me just say, there's like 10 marriage breakers we've had. And I was like, you know what? I'm done. And so it was like a surprise to me that I could even say the words. Like, I. I had been sort of stuck in it for so long that I didn't even know I could say those words and move on to something else. And boy, golly, am I thankful I did because it was, you know, difficult.
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A
And so what we're looking at, date wise, August 2nd, because I'm noticing that, like, Mars is at 2 degrees of Virgo. So it's just coming off of your ascendant just the week earlier, where you had Mars exactly conjoined the degree of your ascendant. But we're looking at a chart on August 2 for the day that you decided to look for a new place.
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H
Yeah, that's when I first was in contact with a realtor. And actually that very day, we put in an offer on a house.
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A
Oh, wow. Okay.
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H
Yeah, so it wasn't like I was just starting the conversation. It was. I actually saw a house and I was like, let's put in an offer.
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A
And so you're using that to approximate when you made the decision to leave. But when do you think the precipitating events happened? Were they pretty close in terms of days of when you had made that decision?
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H
Oh, no, there were dramatic events over, like, years past like that where, you know, whatever, eight years before or 10 years before, 14 years before. You know, there were. There was sort of like, sort of at intervals, very traumatic events. And.
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A
Yeah, I mean, more like finally I
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H
was like, I can't do it.
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A
Right? I mean, more like what was the. This is Approximately the date that you made the final decision to leave. But it's not. Yeah, that's okay if you don't know if this is the closest we can get to that, I guess, because this is a pretty tangible decision in terms of you actually got the new place, new house at this point.
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H
Well, yeah, that's when I first put in an offer on that house and first actually looked at real estate listings. And as it happened that very day, I know it seems improbable, but I found a good house that first day.
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A
Nice. All right. Awesome.
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H
Mercury in Pisces. I'm not the best on telling you all the dates precipitating that.
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A
That's all right. Are you still in that house to this day? This is like four or five years ago.
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H
No. Yeah, actually, I ended up starting a date and then September 7th, met my new partner. September 7th, 2023, met my new partner. Sept. 7th, 2024, we moved into our house in Maine. But what was interesting is that in July, so July 3rd or 2nd, 2023, we put in an offer on this house in Maine. And like, just, you know, within a week after that, I talked to my business partner of a dozen years, and I'd own my company for 20 plus years. And I was like, I'm moving to Maine. What do you think? And he's like, well, if you want me to buy you out, you know, that could be a good idea. And I was like, oh, yes, please, because AI is eating us alive. So at any rate, Uranus hitting my midheaven, as you had there on the screen, certainly.
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B
What.
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A
What date was that?
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H
So July 2023 would be like, you could say mid July. July 7th, July 10th, something like that. 2023.
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A
Got it. Okay. So, yeah, so this is like transiting Uranus going over your Mars in the 10th house and eventually your midheaven as well. And you decided to sell your share of your business to your partner and to have them buy you out and then were sort of liberated from that job and that career.
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H
Yeah. Which was kind of like, I still can't believe it, honestly. Because I started the company in 2001, and I was the face of the company. But amazingly, I was able to extract myself.
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A
2001, that would have been close to Jupiter. I see Jupiter's in your 10th house here. So that would have been just after Jupiter was in your 10th house originally. Yeah.
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H
April 6, 2001 is when I started my company.
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A
Yeah, it was just after. Because the Jupiter Saturn conjunction in 2000 was in Taurus, which would have been your 10th house. So it looks like Saturn was still going through there and Jupiter had just moved into gemini into your 11th house.
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H
Yeah. Probably when Jupiter was in. My 10th was when it was actually I was making enough money to actually think of starting a company.
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A
Got it. Nice. Cool. All right, well, those are good examples. Yeah. Again of reiterating some of the things we were seeing earlier of sometimes difficult choices showing up in a person's chart, because that's one of the things is it was you making a choice to leave. And I think that's one of the things that's so fascinating is that it's not an external event happening to you per se, but sometimes the exact transit is something that comes from inside of you and a choice that you make. And that's pretty cool.
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H
Yeah. Yeah. And it definitely came from inside of me because I was really not paying attention to astrology in that period of my life. I only have come back to it in the last year or so after seeing how emblematic it is of actually the things that happen in my life.
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A
Nice.
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H
Yeah. It wasn't instigated by my being like, oh, Pluto's going over my Venus. What am I gonna do about this? It was totally unconscious. And then afterward I saw an astrologer. I was like, oh,
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A
yeah, totally. That's one of the things that I love, is that we're not always aware of the astrology operating. But sometimes when we learn it and we go back and then look at the big events that happened in our life and see how it lined up, that's when it's really impressive. Because then it's obvious that. That we weren't doing it because of the astrology or because we were convinced that it was something we should be, or that we had the suggestion implanted or something like that, but instead it's something that's just naturally arising from within us. Cool. All right, well, thanks for sharing your example. I appreciate it.
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H
Thank you.
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A
All right. Awesome. Yeah, so we learned some really good stuff from that. Constance said there was a long term buildup. Yeah, that's really important. Oftentimes with these exact transits, we're looking at trigger events, and trigger events. Transits often trigger things when they go exact. But the buildup is often taking place with the sign based transit, with the broader sign based transit. And that's why I always tell people to start paying attention as soon as the sign based transit happens, because at that point you may start seeing some of a shift take place where the unfolding of a sequence of events starts to happen. But it's not until the transit goes exact that the most pivotal or crucial turning point will actually happen. And that's part of the dynamic that we're seeing here. Yeah, it starts when the planet moves into the sign. Exactly. And then, Jessica, if you got a Saturn return one, then sure, let's do that. What's your birth data?
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C
14th of June 1994.
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A
And what's the date of the event that we're looking at?
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C
So the first event which was the custody return was the 15th of May or March 2020. So I've got two examples with my Saturn return, both of them going back to the exact degree of my natal Saturn.
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A
Sorry, you said 2024, right? March 15, 2024.
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C
Yes.
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A
Okay, just confirming. All right, so here is your chart. You have 9 degree of cancer rising.
- [77:45]
C
Yes.
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A
Okay. All right, so this is a Saturn return story for the audio listeners. You have Saturn at 12 degrees of Pisces. And tell us what was happening.
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C
So I had a long court battle for two years prior. And then all of a sudden, out of the blue, the other party just returned my daughter back to me, which was a big shock and yeah, big event that happened that year.
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A
So you had been married and you had a child with somebody and then you separated two years earlier in what year? In 2022.
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C
So what happened was it was my daughter's grandmother. She actually stole my daughter and then use the court against me to keep the custody. So it was really, really, really horrific Court case with so much bad things. And yeah, the father, which is. Yeah, daughter's father wasn't involved at all. It was all between the grandmother and me. It was crazy.
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A
And it. Was it your grandmother or the father's grandmother?
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C
The father's mum.
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A
Okay, that's interesting. Wait, it's the father's mother?
- [79:13]
C
Yes, Yep. The father's mother was the one that essentially kidnapped her and then she just gave her back all of a sudden on this exact date.
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A
All right, so on this date, Saturn is at 11 degrees of Pisces, 1135 Pisces. And it's conjoining your Saturn within a degree at 1219 Pisces. So that is very close and very exact. You do have Saturn ruling the 7th House of Relationships as well as the 8th House of Other people's things. And it's conjoining your natal Saturn in the ninth house, which is also the ninth house can be legal things like the courts and having to deal with lawyers and different things like that. So that's probably part of what we're seeing there. And so that was the first exact hit of Saturn to your natal Saturn. But then you said there were other things that happened.
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C
Yes. So in November 30, 2024, I tripped on a puzzle and I broke my foot. It was the second foot break I had had in the course of I think four months of each other. So Saturn retrograded back after I got my daughter back and then it stationed again over here. I don't know how that worked essentially, but this is when I broke my foot and essentially I thought. But it was quite interesting with Saturn. Banham.
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A
Sorry, the connection's breaking up. Let me see. So Saturn retrograded back and then yeah, we see Saturn again at 12 degrees of Pisces. Conjunct your natal Saturn at 12 Pisces. And you broke your foot at this time?
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C
Yes. Yeah, still healing from it now.
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A
Got it. Okay, so this is like a major, major injury.
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C
Yes. Yeah. And both of my feet were actually broken during my center return, which I thought was very interesting. One was in July I noticed that Saturn was at 19 Pisces but in retrograde. So. But I had a Mars conjunction. It was conjunct my natal Mars at the time of the first instance of my flute. But I think also with that Jupiter transiting my 12th house with a lot of hospital visits as well during that time.
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A
Right. And you were saying even just having Saturn in Pisces natally which is associated with the feet. And it's weird that you had foot related injuries during the course of your Saturn return.
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C
Yeah, yeah. Both feet essentially, which was horrific but very, very correlative with that.
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A
Yeah, that's terrible. Were those the two events or was there another one with the third pass?
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C
So there was two events separately. The other one was in when was it? The third of July. Yeah, but it wasn't exactly passing over it. But yeah, the Mars was conjunct the Mars at the time.
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A
Got it. Okay. So the other injury was transiting Mars had just conjoined natal Mars. I see it there with your Mars at 15 Taurus and Mars is at 16. I think I have it for my time. I'm not sure if I had it set for the right time zone for the transit. So it was about 16, 17 Taurus which would have been just coming off of activating that Mars placement there in Taurus in your birth chart.
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C
Yes. Yep. Horrific. Andrew too. They were both very accidental.
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A
Yeah, I see even transiting Pluto's at one degree of Aquarius, squaring your midheaven and your IC at the same time. And it looks like transiting Mercury moved into Leo and then opposed Pluto and squared the midheaven. So I'm sure that would have impacted you. How did you do that both times? Or how did you break each foot during the course of that year?
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C
One was at home tripping over a puzzle piece and the second was in a public place at the school, which was.
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A
Which in this instance in July that we're looking at.
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C
The July one was at school. My daughters had a school event and I fell down the stairs and tore a tendon. And then the second one was at home tripping over a couch and there was a puzzle piece that caught on a certain part of my foot and. Yeah, got it. Lots of swelling.
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A
Yeah, that's really, really tough. How are you now that it's. What is it? It's almost a year and a half, two years later,
- [84:46]
C
still having issues. Unfortunately, they. One of them needs surgery as there's a nerve caught around the area and the other one's still getting diagnosed. So it's definitely a bit of a long process. The eclipses I've noticed that are in Virgo have been really correlating with it and flare ups of my injuries as well. Because I have quite a few injuries. I'm not sure whereabouts in my charts. I think it might be that it's my Mars and moon squaring. Exactly. That is the reason I have so many chronic injuries. But yeah, those eclipses definitely flare up. All the injuries at once.
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A
Yeah, I was gonna say that about the eclipses just because even though Saturn is finally getting out of. You've completed your Saturn return recently, that Saturn has moved out of Aries. We're still getting. For example, the Virgo eclipse that just happened in early March was in your third house. And when we did the third house episode a year or two ago, we saw so much of how the third house is so important for mobility and just themes of being able to move around. And it makes sense as you continue to have eclipses there in terms of having ongoing issues with that and then eventually needing to do things to allow yourself to have a. A restart. And it sounds like the surgery is part of that. I'm glad you mentioned the Mars moon square, though. I hadn't seen that aspect when we were talking about the first injury and having Mars conjoining your natal Mars in Taurus in July of 2024. But that means it would have been activating and also squaring the moon at 15° of Leo natally. At the same time. So that makes a lot more sense of why that would would be a sensitive spot for you, especially with cancer rising and the moon ruling your ascendant.
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C
Yeah, it was. That aspect of my birth chart, I think is a reason for a lot of the issues I've had over my life as well. Especially with Mars being in detriment, I think, just not happy. Not a happy Mars.
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A
Sure. Yeah. I mean, it is good that you have some counteracting things though with like Venus in the first house is helping a little bit in terms of a little bit of bodily help and protection as well as Jupiter at 5 degrees of Scorpio trining your ascendant. And then this year you've had Jupiter going through your first house. And while that may not have fixed things yet, hopefully some of the things that you're doing, you know, you're looking into the surgery and everything else, hopefully that'll be able to fix or heal to whatever extent you can. Some of those things. How soon are you planning on doing that?
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C
So I've got a few surgeries that I need to do. I'm trying just to time it with my life at the moment. I'm a single mum of three kids, so having a foot surgery and I also need a shoulder surgery as well. They're just such big events that I'm trying to time it with my life and to find a good time to do it essentially at the moment with. With Jupiter in my first house, I've been getting really healthy, taking lots of supplements, doing some physio. I've recently gained a lot of weight. I was almost sickly before and that Jupiter definitely helped me gain enough weight to feel healthy again. So I'm just hoping to fix my body, sort out life a little bit and then see where I go. The shoulder surgery will probably be the first point of call because it's what causes me the most pain. And then the foot surgery will probably be the next point of call.
- [88:46]
A
Nice. Okay, good. Well, I'm glad at least that there's some positive things going like that Jupiter transit has been bringing some positive health things being offset by the difficult stuff you had been dealing with up to this point. And it's good that to whatever extent your Saturn return, and especially the exact Saturn return, coincided with some of the most intense part of that, that that's over at this point with Saturn just a month ago departing from Pisces and you've officially ending your Saturn return. Yeah. So onwards. Yeah. So on. Onwards and upwards. Thank you for sharing thank you for sharing that. I really appreciate it, even though it was, like, hard stuff you went through. Thanks for sharing your story with us.
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C
Oh, you're very welcome.
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A
All right, cool. Well, take. Take care. All right. Everybody says thanks for sharing your story. Let me, Laura, if you're still here with the home birth story, it looks like you're the next. Hey, thanks for joining me. What's Your birth data?
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D
May 30, 1986.
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A
What's the date of the event that we're looking at?
- [90:00]
D
February 22, 2014.
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A
Does this look your ascendant is 21 Libra? Yep. Okay, so you said that on this date you had. You gave birth at home, and it was a home birth and that one of the primary transits was that transiting Venus was conjoining your Mars in the fourth house at this time, right?
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D
Yeah. It was also a fourth house profection year.
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C
Wow.
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D
27. And there was just a lot going on for me that day that all accumulated to my firstborn arriving very late.
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A
That's incredible. I love that. So a fourth house profection year, because this is a great inversion of a lot of the other examples that I talked about earlier today where it was like transiting Mars, going through somebody's fourth house, and then in my instance, there was a major leak in my ceiling or another person's home burned down. But in this instance, it's like a positive transit happening in the fourth house where Venus is at 2122 degrees of Capricorn and it's conjoining Mars at 22 degrees of Capricorn. What was the buildup to it in terms of deciding to have a home birth? Which is the other interesting part, because that's unique in and of itself, giving birth at home, which is a fourth house thing, obviously, versus, like, doing it at the hospital. So I have.
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D
At the time, I was doing all my research and felt really strongly about giving birth at home. And since then and since having two more children, I have changed my entire stance on home birth. And it's not something that I would recommend to my loved ones and friends. And I feel very fortunate that my daughter and I survived and had a very straightforward, uneventful experience. So, yeah, I thought it was interesting that Neptune was also very present. I think Neptune is conjunct my moon in the sixth house and also sextiling my natal Neptune, which is in my fourth house as well. And just how I was sort of under the spell of the magic and delusion of home birthing as it is presented in the natural Childbirth world. That illusion has since been broken for me. So I just thought that was interesting also.
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A
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, because it works when it does, but then the danger is like if something goes wrong then you could be in a really bad situation not having access to doctors and the ability to do life saving medical procedures and things like that.
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D
Yes, absolutely.
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A
Yeah, well, yeah. And that brings in other exact transits where in this instance it's like you're having a positive transit. But yeah, you're pointing out, for example, you're in a fourth house profection year. So Saturn is the Lord of the year. I mean, actually that's interesting in and of itself. You're in a fourth house profection year which is activating your Mars and your IC in the fourth house, but also your Neptune in the fifth house. And then natal Saturn is at 6 degrees of Sagittarius. And you were talking about Neptune and it is interesting that there was a Sun Neptune conjunction in your 6th House happening that day at 4 and 5 degrees of Pisces that was squaring your Saturn and like the combination of all of that. Yeah.
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D
Oh, sorry. That Sun Neptune conjunction is also aspecting my Pluto.
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A
Right. I guess I was just thinking of that. The way you're describing it from your perspective, you were under the illusion of some medical ideas with Neptune in the sixth house at the time, as well as whatever presumably media and stuff you were taking at the time with Saturn in the third house. And that was giving you a perspective that was different than where you're at today. So it's just interesting that Saturn was the ruler of the fourth house and that was receiving an exact transit from Neptune squaring Saturn at that time. And that you did something related to your home and living situation and a medical thing that would be different once you came out of that transit. Yeah, yeah. I can't think of a better way to phrase that, but that makes a lot of sense and it's just really interesting. And I'm glad you had a positive transit happening in that day with transiting Venus conjoining Mars so that it went smoothly. And I can see you also had Transiting Jupiter at 10 degree of cancer, conjoining your natal Venus at 11 degrees of cancer in your 10th house, which was another pretty positive and supportive transit that was happening that day.
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D
Yeah, I noticed that as well.
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K
Yep.
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A
Nice, nice.
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D
And my nodes also had something
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G
maybe
- [96:01]
D
not, it's hard to see on my
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A
phone, but anyway, yeah, just a nodal. You had an exact nodal reversal happening at that Time where the north node was exactly. Conjunct your south node in the first house.
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I
Cool.
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A
All right, well, that's a pretty good example, and I like the positive side of that, but I appreciate your cautioning in terms of telling a story of where you're at now.
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D
Thanks. Appreciate it.
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A
All right, thanks. Okay, this is a little different one, but this might work, Kelly, if you're still here with the example of purchasing shares in your company. All right. Hey, what's your birth data?
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M
9, 2162.
- [96:47]
A
All right, and what is the date of the event? We're looking at
- [96:54]
M
August 27, 2018.
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A
And your ascendant is at 27 Aquarius.
- [97:02]
M
Yes.
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A
Okay, so in terms of the setup, you said that on this day you purchased shares in your company to be a partner and that Saturn and Uranus. Exactly. Trined your natal Uranus in the eighth house.
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G
Right.
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M
But what I also noticed is that the sun and the Jupiter were. Do we have date 20? Yeah. We're also in opposition on the second and the eighth house.
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A
Right. Okay, so what was the setup in terms of describing the context of this event? What. What does it mean that you bought shares with your company?
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M
Okay, so I have worked there for a number of years, and I had been offered to buy shares before, but never really wanted to. And for some reason, I decided to do it at this time. And it was just different because I was just before where I questioned it, I think because of Saturn, but I was just so sure this is right. And I was very comfortable with the decision, but it was something that. That I wouldn't normally have done.
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A
Okay, and how did it impact you or why was it an important event?
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M
Because I had to take, you know, money out of my savings, and that's. I had put away for retirement. And I just looked at it as a way for, you know, a different way to retire. You know, build a retirement fund.
- [98:52]
A
Got it. And did that end up being successful or how did it impact your life? Yes.
- [98:57]
M
Yes. Yeah, I'm still working there. And yeah, so, yeah, it was very just. I was on the board before, but now I just felt like I played a more important role in the company. And so it kind of changed what I was doing at work and how I was looked at. Just my partnership made it different than just leading a department. I was part of the whole leadership team, I guess.
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A
So by buying the shares, it elevated you to be a partner. And a partner is more like a leadership role in the company.
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M
Right. And I think because of that, because the company did really well for a number of years that the dividends have pretty much, you know, helped to pay for that investment. And then also, I feel like in the past, I felt like my salary hadn't been where it really should be. And I think because of that, I feel like it's, you know, it's more appropriate for where I am.
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A
Got it. Okay.
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M
Also, I'm not sure if it matters or not, but I do the finance there, so that kind of plays a
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A
role also in terms of accounting. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, that makes a lot more sense then, if you're working there in an accounting capacity.
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G
Right.
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A
And I love that in terms of just you having a cluster of three planets in the eighth house in Virgo, and accounting being part of that is, like, a really common thing that I see.
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M
Right. And it was also 8th house profection year for me.
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A
Oh, wow. Okay. So it was in eighth house profection year, you're asked if you want to buy shares and through that, be elevated to partner. That's brilliant. That's also brilliant because that's one of the transits I was seeing. But I was curious why that was being so important. But I saw that it's like transiting Venus that day got to 20 degrees of Libra. So it was conjoining your natal mercury at 21 degrees of Libra in the ninth house. And that makes more sense now, if Mercury was also the Lord of the year, and you're having an extremely positive transit of Venus to Mercury within a degree at that time.
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M
Yeah. And then would the Mars play into that at all with it being trining my sun?
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A
Yeah, for sure. Especially if you're in an eighth house profection year, then the sun would have been activated as a more sensitive placement. And so transiting Mars. Because also, it looks like transiting Mars wasn't just trining your sun, but it looks like Mars is actually stationing literally that day at 28 degree of Capricorn. So it would have been trining your sun for a week or two or a few weeks while it was stationary. At that degree, it looks like it was stationing direct.
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G
Mm.
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M
And then Jupiter being in the 10th house at that time.
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A
Yeah. Jupiter transiting your 10th in Scorpio and just coming off of that conjunction with your Venus at 13° of Scorpio.
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M
Yeah. I just thought it was ironic how I had so many exact transits that day.
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A
Yeah. And they're all pretty positive transits. And it's showing a positive move in terms of your career and going Upwards at this point.
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M
Right.
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A
Nice. That's really good. Okay, well, that's cool. In terms of it being both a positive career transit as well as a positive of financial transit for you, and showing that interplay between your natal Jupiter in the second house versus your eighth house, stellium, and how your personal finances being kind of intertwined with other people's money. And that happening both in the sense that you work as an accountant, but also that this crucial turning point had to do with investing shared resources basically, or your resources in the company's resources.
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M
Right there was. I think you'll see this also plays into a negative transit that I was having. And that would be my brother passed away two days after this.
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A
Oh, wow. Okay.
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M
And so you look at that was eighth health perfection year. And then Mars maybe because it's in the 12th house.
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A
Right. So what was the exact day of that?
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M
The 29th.
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A
The 29th. Okay. So there's Mars stationing in your 12th house. And what else is happening? So the sun is going through your eighth, and then you had the positive financial transit. But then. Okay, I mean, the other one is, besides Mars stationing in your 12th House of Loss, Pluto was like squaring your Mercury, which is the Lord of the year. So it's weird that you're having a positive transit and a negative transit at the same time to the Lord of the year. What is Mercury itself doing? So the ruler of the third house is Mars, which is Natalie in cancer in the sixth. It's a day chart. How did he pass away or what happened?
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M
He was an alcoholic, but when he went into the hospital, we didn't realize that he was that bad that would be the cause of him passing away kind of suddenly, actually.
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A
Oh, that's what it is. It's transiting Pluto. I was looking at it when I was looking at the 27th. Pluto is at 19 degrees of Capricorn. But then by the 29th, Pluto had retrograded back to 18 degrees of Capricorn. And that was exactly opposing your Mars at 18 degrees of cancer, which is the ruler of the third house of siblings. So it's like, okay, that was probably the worst transit that you were having at the time and is a once in a lifetime transit. To have transiting Pluto oppose Mars in the sixth house. And because it was ruling the third house of siblings, to have it be like the loss of a sibling through illness and essentially through addiction. Addiction issues show up oftentimes with the sixth house because it's functionally treated more like an illness at this point when somebody has a drug or alcohol problem. Yeah. So that was the other major transit you were having at that time.
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M
Right.
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A
Wow. Okay. So I'm sorry to hear about that. Was that a big loss and shocked you at the time?
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H
Yeah.
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M
I mean, he'd been an alcoholic, obviously, for a long period, and we knew it had been escalating, but really had I, you know, probably in denial thinking, like, okay, now he's going to get some help and he'll be fine. And then he just wasn't.
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G
So.
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A
Okay. Yeah, yeah. So that's the other part of the eighth house, and I guess that's the other thing I was talking about, which is that sometimes when parts of our chart are being activated or transits are happening, we'll get multiple different manifestations of that thing, of whatever it indicates. And for you, it's the eighth house being activated. And so on the one hand, we're having the shared resources and investment and other people's money and accounting aspect of the eighth house, which is a strong positive part of the eighth house. But then on the other hand, we're also having the themes having to do with mortality and death, which is the other main signification of the eighth house. And yeah, you were experiencing both of those in that year. I assume that's one of the more significant deaths. Deaths that has happened in your life. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well. And it's similar to the examples we were looking at earlier with one of the examples, which was Mars was opposing Jupiter, the lord of the year at the time, and the person lost a loved one. Here it's Pluto transiting Pluto, opposing Mars and losing a sibling.
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M
Right.
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A
Wow. Okay. Well, that's a good. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. That's a good example. And again, it shows what we've seen in other instances, which is like, sometimes we're having really positive transits and really negative transits happening at the same time. And that sometimes you can have metaphorically there's like a wedding and a funeral, or in this instance, it was a job promotion and then the loss of a loved one. And yes, that life is complicated like that sometimes.
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M
Right? Yeah. So two big ones right at the same time, basically.
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A
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Absolutely. Well, that actually brings up that. That's actually the answer to that, though, is that transiting Jupiter in your chart is transiting your 10th house. You have a day chart. So your Jupiter transit's the most positive and the Mars ones are the most negative or challenging. And transiting Jupiter's at like 16, moving into 17 Scorpio so that's actually trining your natal Mars at that time. Okay, so that's actually it. Those are the two primary ones. Let me circle that. Let's see. So we have transiting Jupiter trining Mars, and then we have transiting Pluto opposing Mars. So on the one hand, you're getting a positive career thing happening with Jupiter, going through your 10th house and hitting positive things like your Venus placement and trining Mars, which is the ruler of your 10th House of Career. And you're getting a promotion. But then because you're simultaneously having one of the worst possible transits, which is transiting Pluto opposing Mars, the ruler of the third house. And because Mars doesn't just rule the 10th house of career, but it also rules the third house of siblings, you're also experiencing a significant loss at that time. So that's a really incredible. Yeah. And rare sort of lineup to have that happening at that time and to have both of those areas activated in that way. But I think that that is really important in terms of what we can learn from that as astrologers. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I appreciate it. I guess that's happened. The promotion happened. And you said you're still with the same job. Yep, yep, yep. Good. Okay, awesome. Well, thanks a lot for sharing your example. I appreciate it.
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M
Thank you.
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A
All right, take care. Yeah, so that's really important. And that's the other thing about this is life is complicated and all of us have multiple things going on in our life at any one time. And sometimes important threads in our life can culminate all around the same time. Especially when we have multiple important transits happening at the same time. Same time. And sometimes when those transits are going exact at the same time, we have multiple really important life defining events happening at the same time. Or sometimes it'll be just a few days apart if the transits are spread out just a little bit. Or sometimes if the exact transits are spread out by a month, there'll be two important different things happening back to back in a different month. Yeah, that was good. So everybody in the chat says thanks to Kelly for sharing. All right, where are we at? Okay, there's just two more I think if both of you are here, that I could do really quickly before I wrap up and before I run out of energy. So, Rachel, with the Mars transit, let's do yours first if you're here.
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F
Hey.
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J
Hi.
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A
Hey. Yeah. What's your birth data?
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L
March 17, 1995.
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A
There it is. Okay. And what's the date of the Event
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L
that we're looking at, it was March 24, just this past March.
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A
Okay, so you have 28 Libra rising. What is the setup? This is a transit that you had a medical event.
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L
Yes. So I think it's kind of a short and sweet story, but on that day, I ended up going to the er. I thought it was, like, chest pains. I was on a new medication, so I thought maybe I was having a reaction to it, but turns out I do have gerd and it was, like, flaring up really badly. And I think Mars can mean, like, inflammation too, so I think that was pretty significant. But, yeah, it was just my stomach, and I'm still kind of going through it, but it's getting better.
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A
Nice. So it was for the audio listeners, you have Saturn at 16 degrees of Pisces in the sixth whole sign house in the night chart. And on that day, transiting, Mars was at 17 Pisces, conjoining your Saturn in the sixth house. And you had, you said, tightening in your chest and another issue.
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L
Yeah.
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A
Okay. And what is GERD again?
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L
It's like acid reflux heartburn, so a lot of burning in my stomach.
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A
Okay. Wow. Yeah. So Mars is usually like, fieriness or inflammation or other things. And so you're actually literally feeling that and ended up in the hospital.
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D
Yeah.
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A
And is that. Is it fixed now, or was that a major incident that you're still dealing with?
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L
I'm still dealing with it, but it's kind of slowly getting better. But it's kind of on and off now, but it's much better than it was on that day.
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A
Got it. Yeah. Well, Mars is at late Pisces right now, so it's still been going through your sixth house, but it's about to finally depart from your sixth house. So hopefully that'll be better once it gets out of there. And that's something we see sometimes, commonly is the most critical event happening at the exact transit, but there's still being lingering things while the transit is still happening by sign.
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K
Yeah.
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A
Nice. All right, well, that's a good quick example. Thanks for sharing that.
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L
Thank you.
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A
All right, and then my headphones are about to die. Die. But I think I might be able to squeeze in the last example. Nai, are you still here? What's your birth data?
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K
March 15, 1994.
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A
All right, and what's the date of the event? The first event.
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K
Date of the first event is February 21, 2025.
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A
The chart and the transits. And give us the setup. What happened?
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K
Yeah, so this is all happening While the Mars retrograde is grinding over my mc. And this was the day that my mom passed away. She had a really unfortunate accident at the start of February, and
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D
she was
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K
in the ICU on life support for like multiple weeks. And then with another astrology friend of mine, we had actually elected this day as when to end her life support because of multiple reasons. But I didn't actually realize until looking back that it was my exact Venus return. There were so many other things going on. I was just trying to figure out a way to bring her peace as fast as possible. She has sun and Mars in Sagittarius, so that moon was transiting right over her sun during that event. But yeah, I went back and looked at this and I was like, oh, that is an exact hit on my Venus.
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A
Got it. And the event, her injury happened, the medical event happened earlier in the month. So that would have been when Mars was closer to your midheaven and opposing your IC.
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K
Yeah, yeah. The event happened like February 7th. And I live in Honolulu now. I live in Hawaii. So there is this really interesting thing because, like, Mercury is combust with the sun. I actually didn't get the call that she had been in this accident until Mercury perfected the conjunction and then passed the Sun.
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A
Got it. Okay. Yeah. During the cazimi.
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K
Yeah.
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A
So I see on February 7th that Mars was at like 18 cancer, and it was opposing your IC at 20 degrees of Capricorn. And so there's other things going on, but that's probably one of the main triggers in terms of the Mars retrograde opposing your ic and the IC representing the parents and each of the parents, and in this case, your mother and she has that accident. And then later in the month when transiting Venus. Exactly. Conjoined natal Venus at 9 degrees of Aries. And Venus is actually the ruler of your eighth house of death and mortality, as well as the ruler of your ascendant.
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K
And this would have been at the tail end of my seventh house profection year too.
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A
Oh, wow. Okay. So you're also in a seventh house profection year. And then she was gone. And it was just a matter of that. The doctors said that you needed to stop doing life support, and it was a matter of when to let her go. And then it ended up being this day.
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K
Yeah, yeah. And then. Right. Flew back to Hawaii, trying to get my life back together. I was in my final semester of college too. So many moving parts. And then April 16th of that same year, I got the call that my stepfather had passed away. And the Venus Retrograded. Had retrograded back into Pisces. And it was conjunct, I think maybe off by a degree, my sun. And then also with Rahu and Saturn.
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A
Oh, right, because this wasn't just Venus conjoining your sun on the day that your mom died, but Venus was slowing down to station retrograde grade within a degree. Okay, so that.
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K
And then this would have been the start of my eighth house profection year. So now I'm in a Venus profection year.
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A
Okay, so then your birthday takes place on March 15th. And then it switches from your seventh house to your eighth house. And then Venus is activated as the Lord of the year. Venus is retrograde. And then what was the date for the second event?
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K
April 16th.
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A
Okay, so then like a month after you switch into your eighth house profection year. And what happens with your father?
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K
He had passed the night before from a stroke. And I got the call at like, I got the call at like 6:15 that it had happened. And then I think at 8:15 that morning, I had called my job and I was like, I can't do this. I was like, I. I was like, I used up all my vacation time. I'd used up all my, My, My pto, my. My paid sick time, my. My unpaid sick time. And I just kind of had to take an extended leap of absence, which is very like the north node there. Because I was already having questions about whether I wanted to stay at this job. But knowing that the job market was really shitty, I was like, I'll just stick with it. It's not.
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M
I've.
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K
I've definitely had worse jobs. It's. It's a pretty great place. But then just kind of like push came to shove and the life circumstances happened and I just had to call HR that day. And I was like, I can't do this right now. Like, I have. I have to grieve. I have to graduate college. I have all these other things. Like, I, I just can't prioritize this job right now. And they were super cool about it. They were like, so sorry this is happening to you. I totally understand. And yeah, then I checked the chart and I was like, whoa, like, like north node, Saturn, Venus on my son in the sixth.
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A
Yeah. So you said you had used up all of your sick leave and pto, and so you quit your job on the spot on this day. And we see Venus is conjoining Saturn in your sixth house of work, and it's also conjoining your sun at 25 degrees of Pisces. Because I also see that transiting Uranus is conjoining your south node in the eighth house. Was this unexpected. Was this one of those situations where his medical situation came out of nowhere? Where sometimes when an older couple, when one passes away, another one does not long after that because of the stress on them or what were the circumstances surrounding this?
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K
So my parents, my mother and my stepfather have been divorced since before I was born, which is another story for another day.
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L
But
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K
when my mom was passing away, I. There was a lot of arguments or strife between me and him because he didn't want to come to her funeral. And I was really upset about that for obvious reasons. So I actually wasn't on speaking terms with him. And it wasn't. He passed from a stroke, so it wasn't, it was very quick and sudden. He did have a history of high cholesterol and high blood pressure. So when they told me he had passed away, I said, oh, did he have a stroke? And they said yes.
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A
And it was on the 16th.
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K
Yeah. So it would have been the night of the 15th, going into the 16th.
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A
Got it. Okay.
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K
And fun fact, he is also a Pisces sun and a Taurus moon.
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A
Pisces on Taurus moon.
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K
So we have that synastry.
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A
Well, that's crazy. Then that both of those happened independently though, and that both happened for you on either sides of the Venus station where your mom passed away as Venus was stationing retrograde conjunct your Venus and then your father passed away when Venus was stationing direct conjunct your sun.
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K
Yeah.
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A
Wow, that's incredible.
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K
Yeah, it was a. The astrology. I remember when I got the call that morning that he passed away, I just screamed at the sky and I was like, Saturn, what the hell? Because this is also the tail end of my Saturn return.
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A
Right, Your Saturn return and Saturn exactly. Conjoining your sun.
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K
Yeah. So I was just screaming at the planets on that day. I was like, I get it. Astrology exists. I get it.
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A
Yeah, that's really heavy. And that's a good example of again, even though your natal Saturn is early in the sign, it's at like 5 degrees. But it's like because your sun is so late, at 25 degrees of Pisces, there was still major final climactic like Saturn return events that happened towards the tail end of what's still more broadly speaking like a three year period of Saturn going through its natal signs.
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K
Yeah. And I'd had a reading recently and I told the person, I was like, because I have the malefics conjunct so early. I was like, I was kind of surprised that I didn't have more climactic things happen when that was a direct hit. But I think the Mars retrograde is really the Mars retrograde and the Venus retrograde and. Right. Like the Venus retrograde starting in the sign of the Lord of the year at that point and then switching to Venus being the Lord of the year. I think all of those culminating factors.
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A
Yeah, that literally layers in all of the main filtering factors that we've talked about today, which is like exact transits, retrogrades being more important when the transit is retrograde and stationing, especially to the degree annual profections activating either the sign or the Lord of the year. Go ahead.
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K
I just said it's also my ascendant Lord, Venus.
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A
Right? Yeah, absolutely. And, yeah, that's a really good example I'm trying to think of. I mean, did you have any other stuff when Saturn went into Pisces in what, early 2023 forward? Like, what. What was happening?
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K
That's when I first got this job. The. The job with that day. I got. I think I signed. I. I like, signed my paperwork and stuff at the end of 2022, but my first day in the office was like January 2, 2023 or something.
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A
Got it. Okay. So I was working that job for a couple of years, which then culminated with you quitting it during Venus retrograde stationing conjunct Saturn on your sun in your sixth house.
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K
Yeah.
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A
Wow. Okay. Well, and I guess that's the other thing that it demonstrates is that transits are sometimes multiple things happening at once. In this instance, it was the loss of your father, but then also quitting that job at the same time.
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K
Yeah. And it's just like I said, it wasn't the worst job in the world, but I already kind of saw that I didn't, like, there wasn't maybe as much maybe sinistry, since we're talking astrology. There wasn't as much synastry with, like, my beliefs and the direction that the company was heading. So I was already having those questions about, like, how to reconcile that and, like, what I was going to do about it. And then the universe, fate, the north node, whatever you want to call it, kind of took the decision out of my hands.
- [127:02]
A
Yeah, that makes sense. And that's really important in terms of how that can work sometimes where there's a confluence of things that are outside of our control and then sometimes things that are within our control and our choices. But all of Them are being mirrored and mapped out in some ways by the transits.
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K
Yeah, for sure.
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A
Awesome. Well, thanks for sharing that. That's a really good example and I think is a perfect one to end on today just because of how many things that tied together at once. So thanks for sharing it.
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K
Yeah, Mahal, thank you.
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A
All right, thanks. Yeah, everybody says thanks for sharing. All right, I think that's it. So my headphones are dying, so that's the last one I can do for today. But I think that puts us at a good two and a half hours for this workshop. Thanks everybody, all the patrons who joined me for this today for this live webinar that we did with just patrons of the Astrology podcast. I also got a bunch of social media examples that were submitted so I might do a separate recording at some point sharing some of the best ones of those. But I think we learned a lot here today where I was trying to isolate it and we were trying to focus on what was the exact transit that coincided with the event. But obviously our lives are complicated and there's other sign based things going on at any one time. There's eclipses happening, there is whatever the broader outer planet transits are. Sometimes there's multiple transits happening at once. We saw the importance of annual profection elections as a filtering technique to help identify the most important transits that are going to be more potent in a given year. We saw quite a bit. So this is a good first step, I think, at really understanding exact transits. And if people would like to do more of these, let me know and maybe we can do another webinar like this if people are watching this later on YouTube. If you have a good example of an exact transit that happens happened in your life, please post it in the comments below this video on YouTube and I may take some of those and use those as examples in a future episode. What else? To summarize the main point of today though, everybody should pay attention to your exact transits, especially when a Transit comes within 1 degree of Orb, because oftentimes you will see a specific event manifest in your life at that time. And sometimes it can be really important events. Like we've seen some really major life defining events happen today. Sometimes it'll be an event of medium importance, let's say, and other times it will be an event of lesser importance. But nonetheless something has still happened at that time which, which symbolically has matched the quality of the transit in some way. So sometimes creating a transit journal can be a good idea and that might be a Good project that all of us could do this year because I started a document and I've just been noting sometimes when I have an exact transit and what happened on that day, or if multiple different things happened on that day that a transit wouldn't exact to note that. And that could be a good process that maybe we could all research this year and come back and do another episode is just from this point forward, paying attention to each notable transit that you have when it comes within a degree and just what happens in your life at that time. And you learn so much about astrology by doing that about not just the transiting planets, but also you learn more about what the houses meaning. Like we've seen a lot of really clear instances of what the houses signify today. You learn about what the aspects mean. You learn about distinctions about benefic versus malefic and everything else. And that's the reason why I've always said that transits are one of the most compelling things about astrology. Because when you look at natal charts, for example, sometimes the interpretation of a natal placement can be somewhat subjective in some instances or to some extent. But having an event happen in a person's life really brings the chart alive in a really concrete way. And that to me has always been one of the most compelling things about astrology that I wish that more people truly studied. But by doing webinars like this, I hope that I've given people the tools in order to understand understand how to approach degree based transits in this way a little bit better. So I think that's it for this webinar and for this episode of the Astrology Podcast. So thanks everyone for watching or listening. Thanks to all the patrons that joined me and shared your story with me today. I really appreciate each of you and especially those of you sharing really delicate things and really important events in your life. Thanks for opening up and sharing with that with us so that all of us can grow and learn as astrologers. I think that's so important and so valuable and I'm really grateful to be able to do this with all of you. All right, I think that's it for this episode. So thanks everyone for watching or listening and I'll see you again next time.
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