The Astrology Podcast
Host: Chris Brennan
Episode: Saturn-Neptune Conjunctions and Secret Groups
Date: February 6, 2026

Overview

In this episode, Chris Brennan explores the significance of the rare Saturn-Neptune conjunction occurring this month. He connects this astrological event to the recent release of the Epstein files and draws historical parallels to previous Saturn-Neptune conjunctions. The discussion focuses on recurring themes of the exposure and suppression of secret groups, conspiracies, covert operations, and the pervasive ambiguity about truth and fabrication during such periods. Chris synthesizes his research (including prior work with Nick Dagan Best) on themes that emerge during Saturn-Neptune cycles, using both current events and deeper historical examples.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Current Events: Epstein Files and the Saturn-Neptune Conjunction

• Recent DOJ Release: Millions of files related to Jeffrey Epstein unveiled hidden networks and secretive elite groups (00:10).
• Exposure and Ambiguity: Brennan reflects on the public grappling with what is real versus misleading amid the flood of documents (01:20).
  • "It's also creating a great deal of confusion at this time about what's real versus what's false." (03:05)
• Mention of the Zodiac Club: A mysterious elite group with astrological symbolism, linking past financial moguls like JP Morgan to astrological lore (02:15).
  • Speculation on famous quotes and their origins, e.g., “millionaires don’t use astrology, billionaires do,” and its potential connection to Morgan and the Saturn-Neptune cycle (02:50).

2. The Saturn-Neptune Cycle: Historical Repetition of Secret Societies and Conspiracies

• Historical Context: These conjunctions happen every 36 years. Brennan references research showing secretive organizations and concealed power dynamics often become central in society during these times (04:25).
  • "Often coincided with themes involving conspiracies, secret organizations, covert operations, and also sometimes the exposure or suppression of secretive groups." (05:20)

Key Historical Examples:

• 1307 – Knights Templar Suppression (06:20)
  • King Philip IV’s destruction of the order on Friday the 13th; accusations and speculation about their true activities.
• 1738 & 1917 – Papal Ban on Freemasonry (07:00)
  • Reiteration of Church suppression of Freemasons; reaffirmed as recently as 2023 as Saturn-Neptune applied.
• 1773 – Sons of Liberty (08:00)
  • Secretive action (Boston Tea Party) influencing the American Revolution.
• 1881 – Assassination of Tsar Alexander II (09:00)
  • Secret revolutionary cell ("People's Will") changes history.
• 1882 – Standard Oil and the Triple Alliance (13:05)
  • Rockefeller’s clandestine monopoly-building via trusts; secret alliances shaping pre-WWI geopolitics.
• 1916/1917 – Sykes-Picot Agreement & Zimmerman Telegram (14:15)
  • Secret diplomatic arrangements with long-term geopolitical consequences, exposed to broad effect.
• 1953 – MKUltra & Iranian Coup (18:55)
  • CIA’s hidden programs and interventionist operations during periods of Cold War paranoia.

Thematic Patterns:

• Secret Pacts and Diplomatic Conspiracies: Alliances or plans laid in secret fundamentally shifting politics and empires.
• Covert Operations and Intelligence: A shift from classic secret societies to modern intelligence agencies as the main “hidden hand” (13:50).
• Paranoia and Witch Hunts: Recurring mass fear around hidden enemies, leading to moral panics and overreach.
  • Han Dynasty witchcraft trials (21:00)
  • 1950s Red Scare and McCarthyism (22:40)
  • 1980s Satanic Panic and astrology’s association with the occult (24:00)

3. The Problem of Truth and Falsehood Under Saturn-Neptune

• Ambiguity & Epistemic Crisis: Conjunctions amplify both revelations and misinformation, creating confusion over what is authentic (03:40).
  • "Some elements of the truth are clearly being suppressed, whereas there’s some things that are probably not true that are being amplified." (03:50)
• History as a Guide for the Present: The exposure of secret groups and conspiracies echoes across centuries of such conjunctions.
  • "So we’re gonna have to be somewhat careful as astrologers, cause...there’s a tendency for, as we’ve seen under Saturn, Neptune alignments, for fake narratives to be amplified as well." (34:50)
• Expect Ongoing Revelations: Only partly redacted documents have been released; anticipate further disclosures as the aspect peaks (33:20).
  • "I actually expect there’s probably gonna be more related to this that will come out in February and March, both as the Saturn Neptune conjunction culminates, but also as we head into eclipse season." (33:50)

4. Subtle and Shadowy Themes

• Poisonings, Biological & Chemical Threats: Rising warnings and historical precedence connecting Saturn-Neptune with literal and figurative toxicity (28:10).
  • "One of the recurring themes...was sometimes themes involving chemical warfare or biological weapons in war, but sometimes that can also extend to things like poisoning, for example."
• Surveillance and State Secrets: The Berlin Wall/Stasi archives storming (1989) as an earlier echo—public reclaiming knowledge hidden by authorities (30:30).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Saturn-Neptune Mood:
  "The core of it is something that’s nebulous and somewhat hard to grasp." (36:00)
• JP Morgan & the Zodiac Club:
  "Supposedly he said that millionaires don’t use astrology, billionaires do...it’s not clear if this ended up being like a real quote or if it was a fake quote." (02:45)
• On Cyclical History:
  "It’s fascinating that that occurred on a Saturn Neptune conjunction. And one of my reflections was, yeah, just about that. And how that ties in with other instances of secret groups and organizations being exposed or in this instance, attempting to actually suppress them." (06:45)
• On Conjunction’s Double-Edged Nature:
  "It’s simultaneously confirming that a bunch of things that were previously thought to be conspiracy theories are true. But then at the same time, it’s also showing that some conspiracy theories...were actually being used to manipulate and mislead people." (03:20)
• Warning for Future Assessment:
  "It may not be until after this conjunction is over, a few years from now, that a full assessment of everything can be done somewhat objectively once we get out of the conjunction..." (35:25)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:10 – Current Event: Epstein Files release and its significance
• 02:15 – The Zodiac Club & JP Morgan astrology connections
• 05:20 – Historical overview: Saturn-Neptune conjunctions and secret groups
• 06:20 – The Knights Templar (1307)
• 07:00 – Freemasonry bans and reaffirmations (1738, 1917, 2023)
• 08:00 – Sons of Liberty and the Boston Tea Party (1773)
• 09:00 – Assassination of Tsar Alexander II by People’s Will (1881)
• 13:05 – The Triple Alliance & Standard Oil’s secret trust (1882)
• 14:15 – Sykes-Picot Agreement & Zimmerman Telegram (1916/1917)
• 18:55 – MKUltra, Iranian coup, covert ops (1953)
• 21:00 – Han Dynasty witchcraft panic (91 BCE)
• 22:40 – Red Scare and McCarthyism (1950s)
• 24:00 – Satanic Panic, Reagan astrology scandal (1980s)
• 28:10 – Poisonings and bio-chemical themes
• 30:30 – Berlin Wall, Stasi files, and surveillance state exposure (1989)
• 33:20 – Ongoing expectation of revelations
• 35:25 – Need for distance to objectively assess the conjunction
• 36:00 – Closing and call for listener observations

Conclusion

Brennan underscores that the current Saturn-Neptune conjunction is playing out archetypal themes of the exposure, distortion, and confusion around hidden power and secret activity. He urges vigilance and careful discernment, both as astrologers and as citizens, recognizing both the unveiling of deep truths and the risk of amplified falsehoods. He expects the aftershocks—both revelations and confusion—to continue unfolding in the coming months.

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