NBA Draft Trade Challenge

Summary

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The Athletic NBA Daily – NBA Draft Trade Challenge

Date: June 19, 2026
Hosts: Andrew Schlecht, Guest Host / Unnamed (the “Podcast Host”)

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Athletic NBA Daily dives deep into the 2026 NBA Draft with a special focus on creative trade scenarios, front office strategies, and key player moves possibly shaping the league this offseason. The hosts orchestrate a “Draft Trade Challenge,” where they debate and dissect bold, sometimes wild trade ideas involving top teams and stars like Giannis Antetokounmpo, Trey Murphy, and several high-upside draft prospects. The tone is lively, informed, and occasionally irreverent—with plenty of honest debate about the logic and likelihood behind each proposal.

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Main Themes & Key Discussion Points

1. Setting the Table: Draft Preparation & OKC’s Ambitions

[02:01–09:11]

• Live NBA Draft Show Announcement:
  The show opens with excitement for The Athletic’s upcoming live, in-studio draft coverage, teased with interactivity and behind-the-scenes banter.

• Spoiler Culture in Draft Coverage:
  Both hosts humorously recount the era before instant draft news and agree: “Everyone does spoilers. Let’s not pretend that everyone is living in spoiler free zone.” (Andrew Schlecht, 03:14)

• Oklahoma City Thunder: Aggressive or Conservative?
  The bulk of the first act is an OKC trade brainstorm—would the Thunder be better off packaging picks and players to move up, or using their draft capital to build out depth?

Memorable Quote:

“I am very team stay at 12 and 17, by the way. I think this draft is really good.” —Andrew Schlecht, [07:59]

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2. OKC Trade Proposals: Roster Construction and Philosophies

[04:05–11:14]

• Trade Scenario 1:
  Aaron Wiggins, Isaiah Joe, 12th and 17th picks, DAL 2028 1st to Dallas for #9 pick and PJ Washington

  • Andrew: Likes PJ’s fit but questions value, especially with salary/cap implications and the fate of Lou Dort.
  • Discuss topics like OKC’s need for versatile wings and “playoff-ready” contributors.

• Trade Scenario 2 (All-In Move Up):
  OKC sends a haul of picks (including #12, DAL 2028, DEN 2027, and own unprotected) to move up to #4 for Caleb Wilson.

  • Considered “insane” but logical, given OKC’s stash of picks.
  • Andrew outlines why it would take a real leap for Chicago to drop out of the top four given tier drop-off.

Memorable Quotes:

“The Thunder don’t have a lot of six, eight forwards that can shoot the ball.” —Andrew Schlecht, [05:26]
“This is the type of draft where they can go and get that guy that they love.” — Podcast Host, [09:11]

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3. Giannis Antetokounmpo Trade Watch

[20:28–29:38]

• “Giannis to the Celtics” Multi-Team Blockbuster:
  Celtics receive Giannis; Hawks get Jaylen Brown; Bucks get Kaminga, Risa Shay, Asa Newell, Corey Kispert, picks #8, #27, their own 2027 1st, and a Hawks future 1st.

  • Hosts break down:
    • The likelihood of Giannis finally being moved pre-draft.
    • The “Jaylen Brown wants his own team” theory as motivation.
    • Fit questions with Giannis/Tatum, concerns about center depth.
    • Bucks shifting toward a full rebuild.

• Alternative Giannis Destinations:
  Miami and Minnesota are discussed—Miami's coaching and defensive potential, and the Timberwolves as a possible “lobotomy” for the Cavs.

Memorable Quote:

“If we get past the NBA Draft and we still have to talk about the Bucks with Giannis, honestly, I will not care. I won't discuss it. If he wants to remain a Buck, good on him... But as far as NBA interest, I do not care about the Bucks anymore.” —Andrew Schlecht, [20:33]

[Key Segment:]

[21:41] – First detailed breakdown of the three-way Giannis trade
[24:09] – Celtics’ fit discussion
[28:26] – Focus on possible Miami fit

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4. Trey Murphy Trade Machine: Which Team Can Unlock His Potential?

[30:02–36:26]

• GSW, Detroit, and Charlotte Proposals
  • Warriors: Trey Murphy for #11, Pajimsky, Moody—does Murphy have the offensive shot-creation to merit being a #2 in their window?
  • Pistons: Murphy for Ron Holland, Marcus Sasser, #21, swap, 2028 unprotected—Andrew loves this for Detroit’s team-building.
  • Hornets: Trey Murphy/Yves Missi for Miles Bridges, #14, #18, and Dallas 2027 pick—spirited debate on value, off-court issues, and how much of an upgrade Trey Murphy actually is.

Memorable Quotes:

“[Detroit] need shooting in a really, really bad way. Trey’s a good enough defender to stay on the floor.” —Andrew Schlecht, [32:57]
“Personality-wise... he's a great guy to bring into your locker room.” —Andrew Schlecht, [33:05]

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5. Deep Dive: Evaluating Draft Prospects and Team Fits

[36:29–46:15]

5.1. The Mystery of Yaxel Landaborg

• A 24-year-old, late-blooming 6'10" defender with intrigue but risk.
• Andrew: “Zero track record of the Thunder organization taking a guy that's that old in the first round.”

5.2. Alan Graves, Analytics vs. Eye-Test

• A statistically bright prospect despite coming off the bench and playing low minutes at Santa Clara.
• Skillset: Great advanced stats, slow shot, “Boris Diaw mixed with Al Horford,” possible “Kyle Anderson variant.”
• Andrew is highly skeptical: “I am part of the watching with my eyeballs community. And I am terrified. I'm terrified of Alan Graves.” [45:10]
• Host: “He'd be one of the best LA Fitness players you've ever seen in your life.” [43:57]

5.3. Draft Philosophy:

• The hosts reflect on team interviews, age/fit, positional redundancy, and whether a team like OKC would break precedent for a unique talent.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Spoiler Culture:

“Everyone does spoilers. Let’s not pretend that everyone is living in spoiler free zone.” —Andrew Schlecht, [03:14]

On Trading Up Theory:

“Sometimes you just have to cash in everything, you go get this one guy.” — Andrew Schlecht, [11:28]

On the Draft’s Value:

“This draft is really good... if you stayed at 12 and 17, you’d get two players that are contributors right away.” —Andrew Schlecht, [08:02]

On Analytics vs. Eye-Test:

“I am part of the watching with my eyeballs community. And I am terrified. I'm terrified of Alan Graves.” —Andrew Schlecht, [45:10]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:01–09:11]—Thunder Draft strategy and early trade proposals
• [09:11–16:55]—Blockbuster OKC trade-up scenarios and debate on the value of moving into the top 4
• [20:28–29:38]—Giannis trade discussions: Celtics, Miami, Minnesota, Cavs impact
• [30:02–36:26]—Trey Murphy destination scenarios
• [36:29–41:30]—Prospect Deep-Dive: Yaxel Landaborg and why experience/age matters
• [41:31–45:39]—Alan Graves: Analytics vs. eye test as the draft approaches

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Final Thoughts & The Athletic's Draft Week Plans

• Both hosts underscore their passion for the unpredictability of draft night, the unique flavors of this year’s class, and the importance of fit, culture, and front office creativity.
• Listeners are reminded to join the live draft show for real-time reactions and deeper analysis.

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Summary At A Glance:
An energetic, idea-rich breakdown of NBA Draft trade strategies, with the Oklahoma City Thunder, Giannis Antetokounmpo’s future, and rising prospects like Alan Graves and Yaxel Landaborg front and center. Through mock trades, candid humor, and philosophical debate, the hosts offer a roadmap for what to watch as draft week unfolds.

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Transcript

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Good morning and welcome to the Athletic NBA Daily. Coming up, we're talking NBA draft trades. It's going to be great. Andrew Schlecht is on with us. Let's do it. Good morning, everybody. Good morning, Andrew. Hello. Hello. I can't think of a better person to talk trades with. I really can't.

[Andrew Schlecht]

That one, that cannot be true. And two, I love trades.

[Podcast Host]

You do. I know you do. And this is like the perfect type of slop to get everybody ready.

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[Andrew Schlecht]

Let's go for.

[Podcast Host]

You know, we're. We're days away. We are days away.

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Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

From the NBA draft.

[Andrew Schlecht]

From. Listen. From the NBA draft in which we'll be doing a live NBA draft show.

[Podcast Host]

That's correct.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Starring you.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

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[Andrew Schlecht]

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[Podcast Host]

Yep.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Is going to join us, which I'm so excited about. C.J. moore is going to join us. I'll be there producing. I'm sure that you'll hear me screaming whenever the Thunder pick whoever they pick. I may. You may even see me on camera there. But we're doing a live in studio show.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Andrew Schlecht]

On Tuesday, so. So join us live. Comment along. Tell us why you hate, who your team took or why you Love who your team took. We're very excited about it. But today. Yes, we're doing trades.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, it's. It's going to be very cool to do the live show. It'll be a lot of fun. You should come and hang with us. We will be reacting to your messages and comments and also reacting to the picks. We got to figure out if we're going to do spoilers or not. You know, that's.

[Andrew Schlecht]

That's part of spoilers for sure. Everyone listen.

[Podcast Host]

Everyone does spoilers. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Let's not pretend that everyone is living in spoiler free zone.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah, exactly like we are.

[Andrew Schlecht]

The spoiler show.

[Podcast Host]

You might as well read the newspaper if you want to not do spoilers for real.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Dude, seriously. I remember like there was one time where I was out of town for the NBA draft and I read the NBA draft results in an in the USA Today. Like no joke. That's how I found out who.

[Podcast Host]

That's awesome.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Everybody took.

[Podcast Host]

That's awesome. I love that. Yeah, the time when paper mattered. Okay. Anyways, let's talk about trades.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Let's do it.

[Podcast Host]

There's a lot of great trades. I have some trade ideas. Okay, look, there are OKC related trade ideas. Do you want me to start with that first?

[Andrew Schlecht]

Since we're with okc? Let's start with OKC and I can. You can give me some rage bait here.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Ben Green]

All right.

[Podcast Host]

So I'm just going to. I'm just testing the waters with this one. This is a very easy one. I feel like you would like it. It's not anything crazy. Okay. Aaron Wiggins, Isaiah Joe, the 12th pick, the 17th pick and Dallas's 2028 first back to them for the ninth pick. And PJ Washington.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Wow, that feels like a lot to go back to okc.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, interesting. Okay. Okay.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Feels like a lot.

[Podcast Host]

So you feel like the winner in this trade. I. You know what I just thought because Dallas would be getting back its pick.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, no, I get that. I. I like the idea. I think it makes a lot of sense for both teams. Now PJ Washington, because of the length of his deal does create some problems for okc because they just.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I mean that would almost like cement that Lou Dort.

[Podcast Host]

You do play for somebody else salary. Like you still, you're shedding like about 8 million ish dollars or something. So.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah.

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[Andrew Schlecht]

If we're talking about like long term though, I think that you probably like would say goodbye to Lou Dort now. Like PJ Washington would allow you to fill a spot that you don't really have. The Thunder don't have a lot of six, eight forwards that can shoot the ball corner.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

You know, they don't have those guys. And it'd be funny because PJ Washington was, like, the tormentor.

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[Andrew Schlecht]

Of the Thunder two years ago whenever the Mavericks were good. So I think that is certainly interesting. And Therefore talking about 9, if thunder removed from 12 to 9, then they would have the opportunity to take somebody like Braden Buries out of Arizona, who I think kind of fits the Thunder mold. He gives them another ball handler. We just got news that Nikola Topic had surgery on his back.

[Podcast Host]

So, like, which is such a brutal thing for him.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Dude, the guy came into the NBA with a ACL injury. He had testicular cancer, and then he had surgery on his back.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I mean, none of that's his doing. None of that's, like, this dude sucks. Like, none of that is that.

[Podcast Host]

It's just, like, luck, really. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Terrible luck for. For Topich, who is a delightful guy. And, like, I saw him in the locker room this year. Like, the dude still had it. Like, when you have cancer and my wife's going through cancer treatment right now, you have this port that's put in you.

[Ben Green]

He's.

[Andrew Schlecht]

You could still see, like, a visible port scar.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Andrew Schlecht]

On topic, as he's, like, changing clothes after a game that he played in.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And so, like, you have to give him, like, a ton of credit for just battling back, and hopefully he'll be good. The Thunders say he'll be back for training camp, and so it should be no problem. We'll see.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But two guys, honestly, two guys waiting in the wings between Topic and Sorber, right?

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, 100%. Two guys that didn't play, that have been on the roster, that have been battling back. But I will say this. Braden Burries makes sense as not only a guard that can, like, handle and get into the paint, but a guy that can be a wing as well. He's a shorter wing, which the Thunder, I think are very comfortable with. Like, they. They value guys that can, like, kind of level up from a height perspective and buries, like, meets, like, almost, like, every mark of the Thunder. So, like, buries makes sense. P.J. washington makes sense. I like that proverb perspective of the Mavs and that they get two guys that are, like, good rotation players and

[Podcast Host]

they get two picks in 12 and 17. It's not like they're moving down multiple spots. It's just three spots down, you know?

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah. I think that. I think that that makes sense for them too. And the Thunder are looking to save money in some kind of way.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Right. Like they're trying to. And if you can save money on those two contracts, do you, do you think they.

[Podcast Host]

Do you think they move up? Because it just feels, given the roster constraints, you know, the, the, obviously the expense stuff, but it just feels like OKC is going to move up.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I am very team stay at 12 and 17, by the way.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Andrew Schlecht]

That's where I'm at. It's like, I think this draft is really good.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And that if you stayed at 12 and 17, you would get two players that are contributors right away. That's where I think that's how good this draft is. So I'm more team stay at 12 and 17 than take both of them and move up. But if you get PJ Washington as a result of that, you add some toughness, some rebounding, some size, a guy that can play next to Chet, next to I heart, I think he makes a lot of sense for okc. And then you get to move up in the draft. If you go, if you came away from the draft with Buries and PJ Washington, it's pretty good. The Thunder are quite a bit better because we, we know that PJ is a guy that can play in the playoffs. That's, that's kind of the trouble with both Joe and Wiggins is that they're awesome regular season players. They're awesome people, but they're also guys that have struggled to make it work in the playoffs. And so if you're bringing P.J. washington, he can definitely do that. You bring in Burries as a developmental, like guard wing. I think it makes a lot of sense. So I actually like that one.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. You're not going to like this one. This, this next one is insane. And it is a move up thing. Okay. And by the way, I really do think OKC should move up. I disagree with you. I think this is, this is the type of draft which I agree is a very stacked draft where they can go and get out, get that guy that they love. And I think I trust in OKC scouting department in their drafting to be able to figure out who that guy is.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And I'm.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And they do try, by the way, they tried really hard to move up last year.

[Podcast Host]

I believe it.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I believe really hard to move up last year. And they try really hard in almost every draft to move up for a particular player that they like. And that is likely to happen again. And will they succeed? It's really Hard to move up in the draft. It is, it is really hard to ask a team to be like, hey, why don't you move back a few spots so that we can get the guy that we like that you potentially really like too.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Andrew Schlecht]

It's really difficult.

[Podcast Host]

Let me make the pitch here. Okay.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

This is going to be an insane trade. You might want to clip this one. Okay. This is, no players are included in this trade. It's all picks. It's all pick oriented. Okay. The Chicago bulls get the fifth pick. They also get the 12th pick. They get 2027 Denver first pick. I believe it's top three protected or something. They get the 2028 Dallas pick that we just talked about. They get OKC's 2028 first unprotected.

[Andrew Schlecht]

What is about to happen?

[Podcast Host]

The clippers get number 15. They get number 17. They own the 20. They get their own 2027 first back. They get a Spurs 2027 first back. And OKC. OKC gives up eight picks, basically.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

In order to get the number four overall pick and draft Caleb Wilson.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Wow. It feels like if you were an outsider looking in. It's insane.

[Podcast Host]

I know. It's insane.

[Andrew Schlecht]

No, no, no. This is something that, I think that on the outside looking in, this is something the Thunder have been gearing up for that because they've acquired so many draft picks, they should be able to do something like this.

[Podcast Host]

You have to be able to do something, you know, instead of like, just

[Andrew Schlecht]

like playing the long game with every single thing, like you just like cash in everything, you go get this one guy who. What's funny about, like, these top 10 picks is that they're, they're, they're not cheap. Like, they're, if they're really good, then they're, it's a bargain. If they're developmental projects, they're not. These are not cheap developmental projects.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

These are guys that make the money of a rotation guy.

[Ben Green]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Like $11 million or something, right?

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah. I don't hate this for the Thunder. I think it would bring a lot of excitement to okc. Now. They, they need to kind of find a path forward to compete with everybody in the league to take a step up. Now, if we, a lot of people may or may not forget that, like J.B. dub and A.J. mitchell were missing in the conference finals, which is a huge deal for them. Those are. I, I, I would think of the Thunder as a core four at this point. Bashay, Chet, Dub and AJ as their four players that they think are kind of like their best guys. If you were to add a another guy to that and Caleb Wilson, it would, it would allow them to play in a way that I think that they want to play ultimately where Chet is the five now I, you would keep I heart in the situation you'd like Caleb Wilson develop. He'd probably be coming off the bench.

[Podcast Host]

Absolutely. He would be perfect for you guys.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Dude like the, he would be, he

[Podcast Host]

would be great in terms of the energy, in terms of honestly like the character stuff, winning the everything that OKC ends up drafting for Caleb Wilson matches and then yeah. And then I just, I think he matches what you guys need positionally too. That's kind of why I was like, you know, P.J. washington makes sense for you guys. Get like a four that can sometimes play small ball five. The, the shot has to develop for Caleb Wilson. But in terms of a dude getting a massive even if he is a bit more of a project getting another blue chip prospect in the door to pair alongside chat to pair alongside Dub and AJ and sga, I feel like this is the type of move that can be done because I, I, I don't think it's possible to crack the top three in this draft.

[Andrew Schlecht]

No. And Cameron Boozer, like if the Thunder had like a choice of one of the top four guys, I think it would be Cam because he, the decision making stuff with him, the fact that he's a great rebounder. If you put him next to chat, like it makes a lot of sense.

[Podcast Host]

But Caleb, Caleb does a lot of like the rebounding crash in the glass. He does the intensity defense.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Tell me this as why would the Chicago Bulls do this?

[Podcast Host]

Because they only move down one spot and they get another. So basically they would get another lottery pick in number 12. They would get Denver's pick to bet on. They would get Dallas's pick in 2028 to bet on. They get OKC's pick. Like this is a treasure trove of pretty good picks in my opinion.

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[Podcast Host]

I will say I don't think the Bulls do this. I think the Bulls just say I'm taking the pick. You know, you would have to incentivize them further. But yeah, yeah, that's my, that's my trade.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I don't know that they move down because you're, you're not only moving down one pick, which doesn't, it doesn't sound like much if you were to put it that way, but they're moving down a tier.

[Podcast Host]

It's a tier. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Like it's a pretty Big tier of. And you probably ask the other 26 GMs, like, who do you like? And that's that fifth spot. You, you will get a lot of different answers. You'll get Keaton, Wagler, you'll get Acuff. You may get Fleming. So get Michael Brown.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I don't know if somebody would say Ament or Mara or not. I would, I personally would not say that for either one of those guys, but you might get one to say that. And so at that point, it's like, okay, we have clearly reached a different tier. At pick four, you're getting one answer.

[Podcast Host]

Like the Bulls new gm, Bryson Graham, he has brought up this philosophy of slap, which is size, length, athleticism and physicality. And basically all of those things. Describe Caleb Wilson, you know, yeah, 100%.

[Andrew Schlecht]

So it's, it feels too easy there. AC Law, who was in OKC, so last year he was with Brooklyn. The year before he was with the Thunder.

[Podcast Host]

Great OG NBA poll, by the way. AC Law, you know, dude.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And AC was like a great point guard from Texas A and M, then played at with the hot drafted by the Hawks. Like, great dude. You also wonder about him being like, we just need to get the best guy available. Surely that fits well. But you could also say that because he was from okc, he might be like, listen, guys, if we can nab all the assets possible out of this fourth pick, perhaps they do value a guy like Acuff or a guy like Waggler or Kel Brown or Waggler or Flemings as a guy that is closer to Wilson than a lot of people think. If they think that it's like marginal between the two, then maybe you could get a lot of picks out of them. I just feel, unless really, until it happens, I will not believe that anybody is able to trade into the top four.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I, I, I don't know. I just, I think OKC will try to move up, especially if they feel like they can get their guy, the guy that they love. And if there was a draft to do that, it would be this draft for them. So I think it was worthwhile to spend 15 minutes on OKC because they seem like they're going to be players in this 2026 NBA Draft. Okay, when we come back, we're going to do some Giannis trades, some Trey Murphy trades, and other stuff.

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Okay, we're back. It feels Like Giannis is going to get traded before the NBA draft.

[Andrew Schlecht]

It just, he better. If we, if we get past the NBA draft s and we have to talk about the Bucks with Giannis and like the Giannis us team moving forward, I honestly will not care. I will not discuss it. I won't care. I do not care. If he wants to remain a buck, good on him. He's going to make a ton of money. He's going to establish this like great life for his family. But as far as like NBA interest, I do not care about the Bucks anymore. I'm going to be better trade him.

[Podcast Host]

I already don't kind of care. Like I.

[Andrew Schlecht]

You shouldn't, you should not care about them. This really, you really should not.

[Podcast Host]

This really is the boy who cried wolf type of thing. Where, where it, you know, it's been like five seasons in a row, maybe longer, that we've talked about Giannis as a trade destiny, a trade target. It seems like it's going to happen, but you're right. If it doesn't again, I've, I've learned my lesson. What's that thing? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. You know?

[Andrew Schlecht]

Totally. Totally.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, this is, this is the three way trade that I found that would get Giannis to the Boston Celtics.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

Giannis goes to the Celtics. That's trade part number one. Number two is the Atlanta Hawks get Jalen Brown and then the Bucks get Kaminga, Risa Shay, Asa Newell, Corey Kispert. Pick number eight, pick number 27. They get their own 2027 first back. They get a Hawks unprotected 2028 first. If you want to throw in another first there. Sure. But that's basically the trade. And now the Bucks would have that group to build around. Plus number 8 plus number 10 that they have in this NBA draft. That's the rebuild for Giannis.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah. How do we feel about the Celtics like pivoting in this way? Because the Celtics are a team that is like so driven by three point shooting and all of that and they've had Jaylen Brown for a long time. How do we feel about the Celtics pivot to a guy who I think is obviously better than Jaylen Brown, but also a guy who has had a lot of, a lot more health struggles than Jaylen Brown. Yeah, I guess this is something that we feel like they are ready to do.

[Podcast Host]

I'll be honest, I don't think this is a Celtics thing. If this were to happen, I think it would be and just based on the vibes that we're seeing, I'm not sourced in any sort of way in this, but the way Jaylen Brown has reacted post the Celtics being eliminated makes it feel like he wants to have his own team. Makes it feel like he wants to be the guy. And yeah, with Tatum, he's not the guy. And I think he experienced what it feels like to be the guy this season. You know, he said it was his most favorite season of his career beyond, even beyond winning a championship. I think this would be more of a Jaylen Brown driven discussion than the Celtics in any way. Obviously, going out and getting Giannis is a massive thing for them, but that's the type of player that you trade Jaylen Brown for. It's to upgrade and get, you know, a guy who's been top three, top five in MVP voting for the last six or seven seasons. I know there's injury concerns with Giannis, but I think the fit between him and Tatum would be stellar. I think the. Yeah, the shock creation, of course, would be great. I think depending on what kind of players they fill out their roster with, Giannis could be back to the type of defender that he's been in the past. I think it would be a really good fit for. For Giannis and the Celtics.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah. I mean, if you feel like you can play Giannis at the five, I

[Podcast Host]

don't think you can. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I don't think that is in his cards form. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Okay. Well, then I'm a little bit worried then because, like, that is like the biggest thing that the Celtics need is like size that can play in the playoffs. And like, after you do that, you

[Podcast Host]

can do it in moments. But I just, I don't think you're doing a season with Giannis at the five type of thing.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, I get that. I totally get that. I just wonder how you acquire a center that is playoff ready, because if they don't have one, then I don't think that they get past round two, probably in the East. Does that make sense?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I think so. Although, like, you know, there's the Keda situation and I know Keda was bad against Embiid. Like he. He really was.

[Andrew Schlecht]

He got killed.

[Podcast Host]

They have to find some sort of solution at the 5. I agree with you. I think that's part of the Giannis equation. But that question persists. Persists even without Jaylen Brown.

[Andrew Schlecht]

What do you, what do you do with Keda this summer? There's a team option for 2.6 million, which is a bargain for them. But then he would become an unrestricted free agent the next summer. It's like, what do you, what do you do now with Keita?

[Podcast Host]

I don't think they can afford to resign him. And if they do, actually I would. You know what, I take that back. I think they would try and resign him after the season that he had because there's enough there to get him on a cheaper deal in comparison to if you give it another year and you might have to pay even more for him. So, like, maybe you can get Kate on like, I don't know, 15, 17, $18 million versus if he has another year like he had again like last year. He's like a 22, 23, $24 million player.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, yeah. I, I would be terrified to trade for a guy who is great in the regular season, but the goals that the Celtics have are to win an NBA championship. And if Keda is playing the role that he did. Yeah, can he be that guy? I mean, he's a 25 minute a night guy for them in the regular season. Like, what can he be in the playoffs? He was in a reduced role in the playoffs. It clearly did not work for them there. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You know what, though? Can I also be the devil's advocate here? Because the other, the other team is Miami and I just, I don't see the, I don't see the sell with the Heat with Giannis as a destination. Like, yeah, bam. And, and Giannis and Davion Mitchell and Norm Powell, like that's, that's like a 48 to 50 win team. That's a four or five seed in the Eastern Conference. That's maybe a second round out. I think the combination of Giannis and Tatum could go farther than that. That could be the core of a championship team. You have to fill out your roster. Derrick White has to play better than he did last year, but just the upside of Giannis with the Celtics is much higher to me than Giannis with the Heat.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, I agree. The Heat have been really good at pulling rabbits out of the hat though, when it comes to moments where they need players like, and the coaching there has been superb. Like Caleb Martin right now is probably on a negative contract in Dallas, you know what I mean? And he was like a guy that was delivering for them in the playoffs.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And so some of that is like coaching staff, like everything that they have in Miami is just a little bit elevated compared to other places in the league. And so I think if they feel like they Have a star in the league. I mean, they had Jimmy Butler, who is, I don't know, what is he like a B minus star?

[Podcast Host]

Sure.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And he took him to the finals twice. Jimmy was great. So I just wonder like, if they had a guy like Giannis. Even though on paper it doesn't look that good and certainly not as good as the Celtics, but if, if they had a guy that was as good as Giannis, they would figure it out. Yeah, they will find other things. I just kind of have faith in that franchise. Not that I don't have faith in the Celtics, but like having Bam there as a guy to kind of be the fulcrum of the defense down low and let Giannis kind of be the Roamer.

[Podcast Host]

They would, they would have one of the best defense, like top three defense in the NBA.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah. And we're talking about the Eastern Conference. I just think, like, if it was a Giannis Bam led team, which is not a clean fit, by the way. Like, that's kind of a rough, that's a rough fit. I just think that that would present a lot more problems to a team like the Knicks than any team did. Like, the Cavs on paper are awesome. The Cavs in real life are.

[Podcast Host]

They're not. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And so that's the, that's the dark

[Podcast Host]

horse, the honest team for me, them and the Timberwolves, I'm like, they gotta, they gotta do something.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Either one of those teams, if they could actually make it happen, should do it. Because the way that either that both of them are constructed, like, I don't think the Timberwolves, as presently constructed, can beat the spurs of the Thunder. And the Cavaliers need like a lobotomy at this point. And, and Giannis would be that lobotomy

[Podcast Host]

for them that he would be, he would bring a level of intensity that they just do not have right now.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Like they, yeah. It does not exist.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I agree. I, I, I feel like Giannis gets traded before the draft, though, that, Because I do too.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I hope, I hope it happens on draft night. Yeah, that's. Sure.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. While we're doing the show.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yes, please.

[Podcast Host]

It would be, it would be obviously incredible theater, but just the Bucks are operating as if they will have multiple first round picks, and right now they don't. So it feels like they're, they're preparing for Giannis to be, not be traded. Okay, let me throw some. Trey Murphy trades out. You, you just pick which one you like the most. Okay. Okay.

[Ben Green]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

The warriors get Trey Murphy. The Pelicans get the number 11 pick, Brandon Pajimsky and Moses Moody.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I think the 11th pick is very valuable.

[Podcast Host]

It is very valuable. Yeah, Absolutely.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And if you'd rather move forward with younger gu, I think that makes sense

[Podcast Host]

for pretty good value for Trey Murphy. Like Pods is a, is still. He's a good player.

[Andrew Schlecht]

He could play.

[Podcast Host]

He's a good player.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Rotation player. I would take that. I would wonder, too, about if you're the warriors, like, where's your head at in all of this compete?

[Podcast Host]

They are. If, if they're trading for Trey Murphy, it's to compete around Steph Curry, it's to compete around Jimmy Butler, and whenever he comes back and Draymond, like, that's. Yeah, I know, I know. We are like, they should not do that, but they should. They, they're going to do that. They are absolutely going to do that.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I like Murph. I think he's a really good player. I think that personality wise, like, he and Steph and Draymond would fit very, very well. He provides size and shooting that they would need on the perimeter. I also wonder, too, though, is Trey Murphy the kind of guy that fits into the Warrior system? I do question that quite a bit.

[Ben Green]

Sure.

[Podcast Host]

Because he would be excellent for okc, by the way. That's another team that I didn't bring up. But just. He would be excellent for you guys.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, I, I, I don't think that's a bad idea. I wonder about the warriors because, like, they're looking for essentially their second guy.

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[Podcast Host]

least in the interm. When. Until Jimmy comes back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Until Jimmy comes back. If they're looking for the Sarah second guy, Trey's not that guy. Yeah, that's not. It's an unfair position to put him in. And so I do worry a little bit about that for them and that they would be putting unnecessary pressure on a guy who may or may not meet the moment. And then we're talking about a team that's in the exact same place, but with maybe less upside with Trey. And then New Orleans, like, you get the 11th pick, you, you could get a guy who has a lot of upside at pick 11 in this draft.

[Podcast Host]

Axel Landenborg is a guy that the.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Axel is not the name I was thinking of, but continue.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. Pistons. Pistons get Trey Murphy. Pelicans get Ron Holland. Marcus Sasser, the 21st pick in this draft. A pick swap next year and a 20, 28 unprotected first.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Ooh, we are like, going all in here for Detroit. I love that for Detroit. I Think Detroit's the kind of team that needs a spot up shooter like Trey Murphy. I like this a lot better than Golden State. I would put, I would vault this to the top, top of my Trey Murphy, Trey Murphy standings. The Pistons need to make like a pretty big jump if he's their four man next to Jalen Duran, who they will resign and figure out at some point.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah, they're going to resign.

[Andrew Schlecht]

They need shooting in a bad way. In a really, really bad way.

[Podcast Host]

And he's, he's a good enough defender to stay on the floor consistently for you.

[Andrew Schlecht]

So 100% and personality wise, he, he fits like a, a growing team like that. I think you always have to factor in like, who is the like actual person we're bringing into the locker room. Trey Murphy is by all accounts like a great guy to bring into your locker room. So I love that. This is like, this is my favorite Trey Murphy trade. Even though I've only heard two. This is my favorite one.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, you might like this one more. The Hornets get Yves, me see and Trey Murphy. The Pelicans get Miles bridges, the number 14 pick. The number 18 pick, and Dallas's pick next season. Top three protected.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

Which is a, that's a good pick.

[Andrew Schlecht]

You know, 14, 18 and next year's pick.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And Bridges is basically just an expiring salary. They just get them and.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, yeah. And. And what's hard with Bridges is that like, as a consumer of the NBA and somebody who also enjoys like human beings as people. Yeah, he's a tough one.

[Podcast Host]

Yes, absolutely. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Because like the, the truth about Miles Bridges is that he's a really good player. Like, he's a really good NBA player and a guy that contributed a lot to them. And so I don't know that we're talking about like a massive upgrade as far as talent there.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, I would disagree there. I would disagree. I think, I think for what the Hornets want to do, Trey Murphy, obviously the three point shooting is massive. He kind of like adds another crazy shooter. But defensively, Trey is, is much better than Miles Bridges, in my opinion.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, I think he's. I think he's better. But I think my, I mean, Miles was.

[Podcast Host]

You also gave me, you know, another big man that they could have.

[Andrew Schlecht]

You know, that that's, you know, I am, I am me see neutral. Like, count me as me see neutral.

[Podcast Host]

I'm pro misi. I'm pro misi.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I think he needs a lot of development. And like, I will say this, that like the passing of Lamelo And Khan could really help me see become the player that he's. That he could be. But I mean bridges average 17, 6 and 3 yawn last year and his shooting wasn't great but like he will. He'll take enough threes to space the floor for you. He's obviously like an explosive athlete.

[Podcast Host]

Crazy athlete.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Train Murphy is a good athlete too.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I'm just Tray bro Tramer if he's. He's a really good player and I really like him. I think Miles is probably a little bit better of a creator offensively. And so I think like you are not like getting like the. I think you're getting an upgrade, but it's like not a three draft picks upgrade on him. Now if you're talking about personality, if you're talking about human being wise, like. Yes. You're getting like a seven pick upgrade.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Miles Bridges.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

But I just wonder about like team building wise if you're actually moving yourself that far forward in that moment.

[Ben Green]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I think, I think the Hornets would rather keep their picks too. I think they would rather keep.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I think it. I think that you can get players in the draft at the spots that

[Podcast Host]

they're at that can replicate what you want to. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Because like 14, if you got like Mahrez Johnson or I think Cameron Carr fits the Hornets really well.

[Podcast Host]

Kind of Trey Murphy esque too in terms of Cameron Carr. Right.

[Andrew Schlecht]

So yeah, he's definitely shorter than Trey, like by quite a bit. But like the athleticism, the shooting, like Cam will take. Cameron Carr will take really deep threes too.

[Podcast Host]

Absolutely.

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[Andrew Schlecht]

Like he's got this like irrational confidence about him as a role player that I think would really fit well with the Hornets. And then if we're talking about keeping the power forward slot the way that it is and taking Cameron Carr, I like is that then are we talking about such a massive upgrade?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But it's also like that Cam car is kind of a small. Like when you have Khan, you have Lamelo, you have Brandon Miller. It just feels like camp. Where is Cam gonna play?

[Andrew Schlecht]

You know, it's a great question. That's why I like brought up like Mares Johnson as a guy who.

[Podcast Host]

Yaxel. Yaxel could be the Miles Bridges replacement there, you know.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah. Ye. So Yaxo would be great for them. I think that, that he would be awesome for them. And like you don't, you don't seem

[Podcast Host]

like a Yaxel guy.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I listen you sound.

[Podcast Host]

You. You're sounding a little, you know, you said you were Yves neutral You're. You're Yaksel Pessimistic.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I. I like the idea of Yaxel. I can't get beyond the fact that this dude will be 24 years old when he starts his NBA career.

[Podcast Host]

That's perfect for you guys. That's perfect for the Thunder.

[Andrew Schlecht]

It's not though. It's not. There's zero track record of the Thunder organization taking a guy that's that old in the first round. 0. 0. And like maybe he works. And maybe he works great in the NBA. It's great. He's not a self creator, which I do think like limits like what the upside is for Yaxel Linderborg. He is a good defender. He's got long arms. He's 6 foot 10.

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[Andrew Schlecht]

All of those things are great.

[Podcast Host]

Thunder.

[Andrew Schlecht]

He. There's a lot of good things. Personality wise. There's a little. His. His journey to the NBA just makes you think like, huh. Like what's happening there with this guy? Like you. It's. It makes it for us really difficult because like we can't get in the room with him. And what, what you truly need with a guy like Yaxel Lindenberg is to like sit down with him and to like have a meal with Yaxel and to figure out what's going on with this guy and who is he really? Like, to me that is. That is the biggest thing about all of this, aside from the age, the skill set, all of it. Like he's obviously a winner. He won a national championship. He's molded himself into like everywhere he needs to be to become a winner. That all. That's amazing. But I, I feel like me personally, I'm lacking. The number one thing that I want to know about Yaxel Linda Borg is like, who is he?

[Podcast Host]

Who is he? That's why the interview, that's why the interview process is very important.

[Andrew Schlecht]

It's a huge deal. I think it's probably more important for him than it is for anybody else in the draft because like when you think about guys that are his age, they get drafted in round one. There are very few. Yeah, Very, very few that become what people think they can be.

[Podcast Host]

Who's the guy from the Pacers? It was like second in rookie of the year voting, but he was like 30 years old. Chris Duarte. Chris Duarte.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Dude. Duarte.

[Podcast Host]

Duarte.

[Andrew Schlecht]

You don't. You do not want to draft Duarte. You don't want Duarte. Everybody.

[Podcast Host]

I don't think Yaxel is Duarte. I'm putting my foot down Nobody.

[Andrew Schlecht]

But the problem is no one thought Duarte was Duarte.

[Podcast Host]

I guess that's true. I get.

[Andrew Schlecht]

You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host]

I guess that's true. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Like, everybody going into that draft was like, he's the sure thing. He can help you right away.

[Podcast Host]

And he showed it in his first year. He showed. He was like, he was very sure thingy in his first year.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And then he fell off a cliff, and it's just like, is he.

[Podcast Host]

Is the.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Is the axel going to be that? Where it's like, hey, he is what he is. And there's not much more that you're going to get. Which people liked about Duarte. And now Yaxel's bigger. He's got more length. Like, there's a lot.

[Podcast Host]

He started basketball later, too. Yaxel started at, like, 18 or something, which is, dude, like this.

[Andrew Schlecht]

The story is wild because, like, Yaxel tried to start playing basketball in high school, was not eligible because of grades for, I think, three years.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And then he eventually winds up, like, getting into college and, like, go see you. Ends up at uab. And he is, like, a finishing center at that point. It's like, this is cool. And then he gets to Michigan. He actually learns. I. I think at Michigan, he learned the game of basketball.

[Podcast Host]

Incredible year at Michigan, too.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Between him, became a shooter, fit in well, made almost every correct play to get them to the national championship. He was awesome. He's one of the most confounding players that I have ever watched in the NBA draft process. I don't know what to do with him because I think he could be amazing or. Or maybe he's not. I mean, he literally. I mean, he. He should be the guy that I'm, like, rooting for to become a Thunder

[Podcast Host]

player, because he sounds like he should be in your. Anyways, can I came to OKC and

[Andrew Schlecht]

put on the playoff shirt S. He did that and he said, I want to be a Thunder player.

[Podcast Host]

That'd be.

[Andrew Schlecht]

We're going way too long on this.

[Podcast Host]

But, like, it's okay.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I'm just like, can I kind of, like, getting it all out right now?

[Podcast Host]

Can I throw out another guy that's really interesting and fascinating to me in this draft. Just real quick.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah, yeah, please.

[Podcast Host]

Alan Graves, very fascinating player. Because it's just, like, fascinating is.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Is one way to put it. Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, well, I'll just go out on the record and say, I like him. I like Alan Graves. But I'm. I'm com. In similar ways. I'm confounded by Alan Graves. Because he came off of the bench for Santa clara, played like 22 minutes. He's an analytics darling, so the analytics community loves him. But when you watch him play, you kind of see what he's all about. Like, good shooter can. Can be like this defensive playmaker for you, connective passer. I would love for him to be on the Spurs. Like, I think he would be the perfect player next to Victor Wembanyama. Next to these other guys, they need a big four two. And he just. He matches and I. He's just weird because he played 22 minutes at Santa Clara and he was a bench player and it just. What do you do with that? You know, what do you do with that type of player?

[Ben Green]

How.

[Podcast Host]

How do you bank on this type of player? Because I think the Hornets could use him. I think the spurs could use him. I honestly think the Thunder could use him. It just. Very confounding player.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Yeah. Yeah. The numbers say one thing, but then when you watch him, it says a completely different thing in my mind.

[Podcast Host]

I like that. I like the tape. I like watching him. And. And I'm just like, he kind of is like Boris Diao mixed with like Al Horford. And even the shot, like, if you watch the shot, it's kind of Al Horford esque, you know, the way he sets it up. I just. I don't know, man. I don't know what I'm watching.

[Andrew Schlecht]

He feels like the defensive playmaking is like a huge strength of his. Yeah, he just feels so slow. And the shot release. He does the shot. The shot release is really slow. And so, like, it's. It's difficult when you talk about a guy who was as good of a defensive playmaker and has good of hands as him. But then when you actually watch him play, you're like, man, like, that dude would definitely dominate at the ymca.

[Podcast Host]

He'd be one of the best LA fitness players you've ever seen in your life.

[Andrew Schlecht]

You would think. You would think this guy is.

[Podcast Host]

And he's like, he's like below the rim. Like, he's not dunking all the time. He doesn't finish well. It's just. He's a very interesting player and I think he really needs to go to the right spot. Like, just needs to get drafted to the correct situation. Like Charlotte with all that offensive talent would make a lot of sense. San Antonio with all of that talent and kind of like the defenders to insulate some of the big slowness would make a lot of sense, you know, I know.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I just feel like, we have been trying for a long time to find the evolved version of Kyle Anderson. I feel like we try all the time.

[Podcast Host]

This is a Kyle Anderson variant, I agree. But he can shoot.

[Andrew Schlecht]

He can shoot slowly, though. And we have seen with guys who have slow releases.

[Podcast Host]

You have seen.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I have seen firsthand that guys that have slow releases don't matter. They don't matter. S. They don't. They do not matter. Until you speed up that release, it does not matter because you can. The guys in the league are bigger, faster, stronger than they were a decade ago when Kyle Anderson was, like, an actual player in the NBA.

[Podcast Host]

True.

[Andrew Schlecht]

And so I am super concerned about a guy like Alan Graves. And I know that the analytics community loves him. I am part of the watching with my eyeballs community. And I am ball washer. I am terrified. I'm terrified of Alan Graves.

[Podcast Host]

I'm. I'm. I'm somewhere in between. And I like Alan Graves. I like.

[Andrew Schlecht]

I like terrified. I would, like, listen, when the Thunder take him at 17 next Tuesday, I'll

[Podcast Host]

be like, I love Alan Graves.

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[Andrew Schlecht]

I'll be running around the studio in Chicago with S and Zach and cj and I will be terrified. I'll be just screaming. So if you. If you see the Thunder take Graves

[Podcast Host]

at 17, Alan Graves kind of reminds me of, like, Taj Gibson or like Tyrus Thomas, you know, like, he's like.

[Andrew Schlecht]

He's like a player that you. If this were 2014, Alan Graves maybe goes 12.

[Podcast Host]

Honestly, if he stayed another year in college, he might go 12. Like, that's higher. Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

In next year's draft. Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Ben Green]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schlecht]

It may maybe not the. The worst move ever. Especially if he's, like, getting like, a big fat nil deal. Let's say he went to play to Duke.

[Podcast Host]

Sure.

[Andrew Schlecht]

Play somewhere else.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of surprised that he didn't think, well, whatever. It doesn't matter. I like Alan Graves. I like Yaxel Landaborg. I like talking NBA draft with you, Andrew. I appreciate you, as always. Go and listen to all things draft related. We've done, like a whole week of NBA draft stuff. We're going to be live from Chicago doing the draft. That will be a lot of fun. Come hang out with us. And that's it. That's all I got for you guys. We'll see you guys later. Take care. Have a good one. Peace out. Thanks for listening. Make sure you hit the subscribe or

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[Ben Green]

This is Ben Green from the Athletic FC podcast and today I want to talk to you about Boost Mobile. In football, sometimes a player just needs a change of scenery to reach their full potential. And think about your phone the same way. Head into a Boost Mobile store and their team will clean up your device, check your battery health, and get you set up on the Boost Mobile Unlimited plan for just $25 a month. Forever. No contracts, no price increases, just a fresh start for your phone and your wallet. Visit Boost Mobile. Unlock your phone. $25 forever requires customers to remain active on the Boost Mobile Unlimited Plan.

[Discover Advertiser]

It's smart to always have a few financial goals and a really smart one you can set. But earning cash back on what you buy every day. And with Discover you can get this. Discover automatically matches all the cash back you've earned at the end of your first year. Seriously, all of it. And we trust you to make smart decisions. After all, you listen to this show. See [e-mail] creditcard.