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Morning and welcome to the NBA Daily. Coming up, Anthony Slater's here to talk about the warriors having to face the Grizzlies in the Playin. And Xena and I break down the rest of the playoffs, talk about some of our favorite series and the play. Good morning everybody. Good morning Xena.
Xena
Morning.
Host
Welcome to the Play in We're here. Hey listen, I just like to leave Space in there. Maybe you got something to say. We, we've made it through the regular season. We are at the play in. The play in games are tonight. We've got the warriors and Grizzlies and we've got the Hawks and the Magic. We're, we went deep with Anthony Slater and that comes up after the break on the warriors and Grizz. So Xena, I just figured we could just talk a little bit about the rest of the play in Atlanta. Orlando, Atlanta basically just lives in this play in Orlando. You know, they had a huge drop off the season, dealt with a lot of injuries. I don't know that anyone necessarily is looking forward to this matchup, but it is a, an interesting clash of styles. Like as far as teams go, right? Like you have this Trey Young led offense versus the Orlando Magic defense. I, I think that it will be a fun game and have a playoff atmosphere, but I just don't know. You know, these teams kind of back their way in.
Xena
You know, I, I hate that both of these teams are missing very key Jalens. I think that that's makes it for not a true Atlanta Orlando matchup. But overall, yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be fun. You just like to see, you know, what Paolo and Franz are going to be able to do for the Magic. See what Trae Young always capable of making some sort of statement in these type of games. I'm very curious with what the thing is going to be for him, but I personally am wondering if Orlando's size is just going to overwhelm the Hawks. Even though we've been seeing the Hawks, you know, find their way to beat some big time teams this season, especially earlier in the year, as we close out the year, they've been okay. I mean this is quite literally, this is why it's the play and it's the battle of average teams. And I think they've been more average on the Eastern Conference side than anything. So yeah, Magic Hawk's going to be a little bit of a meh, but we'll see what happens.
Host
The 910 matchups in the west we've got Kings and Mavericks and in the east we have the Bulls and Heat and the heat being the 10 seed. You know, this is just not what we expected from them this season. Obviously things fell off for post Jimmy Butler trade. But of these two games, you know, which one do you think is going to be the, the, the best, I guess like the, the most entertaining.
Xena
Ooh, I'm looking at them both I really think the Mavericks will be. Mavericks Kings will be really interesting. Of course. Mavericks, Klay Thompson AD like you've got people that have championship pedigree that want to get their teams back into the mix. Kings have a chip on their shoulder after the way that their season went. So I, I think they're going to show up. But I don't see Sabonis doing much with, with Davis in the middle. I think that's going to be a big problem for the Kings in that game, in that matchup. So I think that will be more interesting to see than the Bulls in the Heat. Even though Bulls have been one of the most exciting teams this season.
Host
Yeah. So we'll see Kobe White. Kobe White is a great story. I just think like the way that he's developed and kind of led that team. If I was Miami, I'd be very concerned because the Bulls just somehow like they, they play hard. Right. And that gives them a chance in every single game. And while they may be a better coach team or whatever you want to say, you still got to play with the guys that are on the court. I just, I like what Chicago does in some of these games with the Mavericks. Look, we have a scenario where the Mavericks could beat the Kings and the warriors could lose to the Grizzlies and we have Klay Thompson going in to chase center to potentially knock the warriors out. Or we could wind up with the Kings going in there with a chance to, to knock the warriors out. So we've got a lot of drama in the play in even. I do want to talk a little bit. I do want to talk a little bit about the, the actual playoff bracket. Obviously. We know the Thunder and the Cavs, two best teams this season by record. They. We don't know who they're going to face yet. They're going to face one of the play in team. Same with the Celtics and the Rockets. But once you get into this the, the bracket, the part of the bracket that's already set, I think you have four compelling matchups. You got the Nuggets and Clippers, you've got the Lakers and Wolves. You've got the Pacers and Bucks and you've got the Knicks and Pistons and Xena. I would have a hard time to choose if I had to choose between one of those four to be the most compelling or interesting. So I'm gonna make you do it.
Xena
Okay. I'm gonna go from the west first and I, I'm struggling between the Nuggets and the Clippers. Just especially Because I've seen the Clippers go on a tear right now. Kawhi, everyone is fun to watch. And of course, Jokic is just a video game player and he's always fun to watch. And Jamal Murray's been stepping up, too. But I just like the drama and the Lakers and Timberwolves. I mean, I don't know if you saw what John Krasinski said that Anthony Edwards said going into the playoffs against the Lakers. He quite, I mean, about that particular matchup. He says, we don't give a damn. We ready. And I just feel like that sort of just like dogging them going up against Luka and LeBron. It's gonna be fun.
Host
They've got the size that they can match up with the Lakers, too.
Xena
Exactly, exactly. And not only. That's the thing about the Lakers, they have size on the perimeter just as much as they do on the interior. And that's good for, you know, Anthony Edwards, Julius Rayner, like you're at Nikhil Alexander Walker, you can go down the line for the Timberwolves. Like, it's going to be a big man matchup. I feel like this will be a battle of Giants going up against them, but yeah, yeah, I'm thinking Lakers, Timberwolves.
Host
Every one of these series has something like that. I look Pacers and Bucks, we know that this rivalry started with the NBA cup, which is kind of fun. And you've got Giannis, maybe with Dame, maybe not, but Giannis, you know, who I think can win a series by himself. But the Pacers have been so good that I think that if I'm, you know, if I'm in their side of the bracket, if I'm Cleveland, I'm. I'm kind of worried if I have to face the Pacers. And then there's the Pistons with the Knicks. You know, Jalen Brunson, he's not totally back to health yet. The Pistons have looked really good all year, and I'm not saying that they're a better team than the Knicks, but it does feel like the Pistons could be a team that would punch them in the mouth and to be able to follow through. But for me, the most, the most compelling. Look, you said it. Clippers, Nuggets, you've got Kawhi Leonard versus Nikola Jokic. As far as the just best players on their teams. James Harden playing some of his best basketball right now. I mean, he. He in the game against the Warriors. I mean, he was electric down the stretch and really took over. And Kawhi has never really had A guy like that and then Evita Zubac versus Nikola Jokic is in and of itself is going to be such a battle that I, I actually don't know who's going to win this series. Normally, you know, you, with NBA coverage, when you, when you talk about a playoff series, like I handicap, this team has the best player, so they get a plus one automatically. When I'm thinking about a matchup in this one, normally I would lean towards saying they have Nikola Jokic, he's the best player in the world. They can just win this series. It shouldn't be a problem. Yes, it'll be close. It'll be six or seven games, but Jokic will win. With the way Kawhi is playing, right. I can't do it.
Xena
It bounces out. It absolutely bounces out. And the thing about it is, it's so interesting when that conversation of best player is in opposite positions. Right? Nikola Jokic, of course he can maneuver from the top of the key. He could maneuver within the post. However, most of his offense does rely on him to be in the middle of the floor and people operating around him. Kawhi Leonard can maneuver wherever in transition at in the mid post, outside the key. Like everywhere he wants. He can get the ball and he could put it up and in a split second. So it's, that's interesting. I mean, I, I, yeah, I think the west, it's going to be more interesting. I mean, I look at the Knicks and Pistons. The main reason I do like that game is because of the Pistons. I mean, the Pistons haven't won a playoff game since 20. They haven't been in the playoffs since 2019. They haven't won a playoff game like 17 years or something like that. It's just like been a crazy long time since they've been able to find some success. And now they have a Cade Cunningham and they have some veteranship around them and Tobias Harris and Malik Beasley and Dennis Schroeder and you name it. To be able to support some of these young guys that are kind of getting their first taste of what it looks like to be in this position. And so I just feel like maybe that could be the edge for them to come into this with a little extra juice than the Knicks that do have more veterans that have been in the playoff world. However, they don't quite have the same edge as, you know, the Pistons, maybe, I don't know. And Jalen Brunson, as you mentioned, still.
Host
Trying to come back which of the top seeds. So this Is Thunder, Cavs, Rockets, Celtics. Which of those do you think is the most vulnerable? And I don't mean in the first round, because that's pretty rare. I mean, the 27 matchups could be. Especially the Rockets. They get the Warriors. I think that that's an interesting series for them. But which of them do you see as the most vulnerable in the. In the first couple rounds of the playoffs?
Xena
That's a great question. I think the Rockets are probably going to be the most vulnerable simply because of their star quality, their stars, and I would say that would be Alperin Shangoon and Jalen Green are the most inconsistent of the other stars in terms of their performances. And so you look at the Celtics, even with Jaylen Brown experiencing or going through his knee pain injections that he recently experienced, you still have significant star power on that team in Jason Tatum, Kristaps Brazingis. And you can go down the roster. The Cavaliers have a core, a solid core, more than just two players that show up. And of course, we know the Thunder already. So I look at the Rockets and I'm like, they're more susceptible to. If you shut down Jalen Green and you. Or on a given night and you shut down Alper and Shangoon, how will the rest of the team operate? And that's what makes them vulnerable.
Host
I, I do love that they played everyone on the final day to, to, you know, like, hey, we are trying to win this game.
Xena
But also, I love them.
Host
The Nuggets just blasted those guys like it didn't matter. So that also is funny to me. I, you know, I think that it's pretty, you know, it's, it's an. Kind of an obvious one there that, yeah, the Rockets would be most vulnerable. I mean, s even said it with the Celtics, Jalen Brown probably could take the first round off.
Xena
Right.
Host
And they should win. And you know, you could make that argument maybe like Cleveland might be in a similar situation. OkC potentially too. Right. Like where if a. If someone had to sit a few games, it's probably not going to hurt them. But the Rockets, they. We already questioned who's their guy.
Anthony Slater
Right?
Xena
Exactly.
Host
We do have a little bit of housekeeping because it was national firing day in the NBA. The New Orleans Pelicans moved.
Anthony Slater
Not official.
Xena
We're just naming it that, right?
Host
Yeah. From GM David Griffin. And the Suns moved on from Mike Budenholzer. Either one of those a surprise to you, Zena?
Xena
No, actually, you know what? Griffin was a little bit of a surprise. I'm shocked that he Went first without Willie Green being a part of it. Yeah, but yeah, I think that the report was that he actually wanted to part ways with Willie Green earlier in the season and ownership did not approve of that. And basically that probably resulted in this firing. But Budenholzer. No, no, I would say, look, I.
Host
Think David Griffin has done a really good job of assembling talent and that talent has just not had health at all. And so this is a, this is how the business works. Right. Like it is a results business. Not this, the theoretical stuff. But if I was a team looking for a GM that was good at finding guys who were maybe diamonds in the rough, you know, I would give that guy a call because he has found in Trey Murphy. The third to me is going to be a star. And David Griffin, he's coming. So yeah, Eve's missing. He's done a pretty good job down there. So, you know, the results don't match the quality I think of, of what they've done as a front office. So anyway, yeah, so now we got that out of the way, we're going to take a break and when we come back, Anthony Slater to talk about why the warriors are going to beat the Grizzlies. If you guys were keeping score at home, you might remember that my bold prediction to start the season was that the Golden State warriors would have a top five defense and that they would make the Western Conference finals. If they're going to make the conference finals, they're going to have to win a play in game in Memphis first. And here to talk about it, the Athletics, Anthony Slater. Slater. They're going to win this game.
Anthony Slater
It's in San Francisco, which helps.
Host
Oh, that's right, it's not in Memphis. Yes, thank you for that.
Anthony Slater
I mean, that's a pretty big deal. Huge deal. Although they have lost a playing game to Memphis in San Francisco before, they're owing three historically in playing games. But Jimmy Butler's like the playing king, right? You know, he has played his way to the finals from the play in. Although last year he got hurt in the play and remember Kelly Uber comes down on his knee. That ruins, you know, the heats playoff chances, but also Jimmy Butler's relationship. I think it didn't help that he missed this play and. But that's. That. That is a whole other podcast. But they're favored. I think they're favored by seven and a half. They just beat Memphis in Memphis. I think they have a lot of stuff going for them in this matchup, including the Grizzlies Teams of the past that used to defend them well no longer exist. They're not a very good defense right now. Jaren Jackson still looms back there as, as the type of rim protector that's concerning for the Warriors. But Jaren Jackson gets in foul trouble every time he plays the Warriors. They bait him into it and then once he's off the floor, if he's off the floor, it's Zach Edie in action, it's Luke Canard every time he touches the floor in action. John Morant has his own defensive, you know, errors and they just, they don't have the DE Anthony Meltons of the world. The Dylan Brooks is the, you know, Kyle Anderson's the guys in, in the past in this matchup that, that gave the warriors trouble on the perimeter.
Xena
Anthony, last night when Steve Kerr was asked about like his thought process going into this, he mentioned the fact that, you know, play ins aren't statistically real. Right. They don't typically matter in the grand scheme. They vanish. Right. But there are very real implications for the warriors in this season. I mean the fact that they've even found themselves in this position. When you think about how important it is that the warriors win this first one and then go on to potentially match up against the Houston Rockets, like just the key of it, like what is it from your perspective? I know my perspective.
Anthony Slater
It's all about what the alternative is. And the alternative is you go play a Friday night game at home against the winner of Kings Mavericks with a chance for, you know, theoretically Klay Thompson to come into Chase center and try to end your season. Anthony Davis, you know, is playing currently the Kings who ended their season in the play in last year. And it'll be this like tense NorCal Friday night battle, 7pm Pacific time. And okay, let's say you survive that. You're playing game one in Oklahoma City like you know, 40 hours later probably Sunday afternoon on ABC against a Thunder team that just wrapped up a 68 win season, was able to rest its starters down the stretch, has a fierce home crowd and you almost would have to punt game one and then what? Win four of the next six over a team that lost, you know, basically four times every two months. That's, that's dangerous. So they had, they talked about after they won the Portland game, hey, three home cracks at getting into the playoffs. I could hear the argument that they win Yesterday they faced the lakers in round one. Luca and LeBron, like that's not that appealing. You would have got the week off, maybe the matchup is better than Houston. Maybe it's not, but if they just win Tuesday night, you get four days of rest. You got to prep. You got to face a Houston team that, you know, I think sees a little bit of ghosts with the warriors somewhat. They beat him recently, but I don't hate that matchup for the Warriors. But as you mentioned, if you do lose to Memphis, it's, it's trouble. And either your season's going to end or I think you're probably going to be in a bad situation.
Host
With the Thunder, we got a chance to see a little bit of, we can call it playoff. Jimmy, that was a playoff game that they played against the Clippers. You know, he puts up 30. He was a little bit more aggressive. What took so long?
Anthony Slater
I mean, look, he had 17 free throws two games prior. He had a lot, you know, he was 57 of 59 in like seven April games from the free throw line. I think he's upped his aggressiveness lately. You know, his thought process on regular season basketball is like, you know, pump confidence and shot attempts and, and usage into some of the role players. You know, get Brandon Pajemski going, get Moses Moody going. He overly passes. There was a play in the Portland game where he had a layup at the rim and right as he's about to take it wide open, he just zings it back out to the perimeter for a 3 and like even Steve Kerr was like that one you want him to take. But that's, it's how he's always operated in the regular season and, and as the stakes rise, he tends to play more minutes, 48 minutes in that game and shoot more, take it more aggressively. And I, I, I mean I'd expect that moving forward, but he's also, he's older, he's not quite, you know, as, you know, strong a finisher as he used to be. The jumper hasn't really been, you know, with him much with the Warriors. He did hit in a couple nice mid Rangers yesterday, but he hasn't been hitting the three. That comes and goes. But yes, the version you saw yesterday is the one you want. But honestly, like the version you've had the last two months is completely turned around your season. He's kind of the least of their concerns.
Xena
Yeah, well, speaking of the least of their concerns, I think offense has been their biggest concern, especially with him in the mix of it. Just being able to figure out how do you space around Jimmy. And of course last night we saw Gary Payton II be the option for the Offense in terms of ball movement and that was, you know, per your report, that was the main reason as to why Jonathan Kaminga sat. In terms of being able to keep the ball and offense flowing, how is that going to help them set up in terms with, you know, Memphis and anyone they're going to face now? Long, athletic, just like the Clippers going into the Western Conference playoffs.
Anthony Slater
Yeah, you know, I mean Gary Payton is their best perimeter defender and like John Moran's gonna be in the building. John, like Gary Payton is their best guy to put on John Moran. But that comes with issues, you know, finishing issues at the rim, spacing. You said they sag off. Now look, that sag off Kaminga too. He's more willing to take the three. He has not been making it since he's come back. Steve Kerr went away from him for several reasons but you know, he's been looking at lineup data, lineup data since coming has been back, has not been good. I, I, I'm curious if you do see at least maybe a first quarter stand in Comminga to see what type of Kaminga you get. Because when he's got some verve and he's rebounding, he can be, you know, an asset to them. You saw it in that Lakers win they had in crypto a week and a half ago. He closed that night. It was one of his better games. But there's a, we could do about a three hour podcast and like really break down the Kaminga situation, but I don't think we have time for that today. So yeah, the question is like who's your fifth closer? Moses Moody was really good in the first three blocks, two steals. He was kind of everywhere. He hasn't been shooting it as, as well lately, but he's at least more of a threat that the defense has to get out there on. I'm surprised you only saw I think three minutes in the fourth quarter in OT combined. It was a lot of Peyton. That was probably a mistake in retrospect. You know you have Quentin Post as an option as a space five, but he looked a little bit, you know, overwhelmed by the moment a little bit in that game. I mean like, and the Clippers are very good. Like the Clippers played a really good game. Kawhi was awesome. Zubac is, was, was great. Harden had like 38. That was like maybe the best, you know, high stakes game he's ever played against the Warriors. If you go back to his Houston.
Host
He hit those two big shots in overtime and I've never seen him do that. Against Golden State.
Anthony Slater
Yeah.
Xena
Yeah.
Anthony Slater
And Steph had a bad game, you know, I mean, I know he ended up at 33 and he had some big shots, but he was cold early and he had eight turnovers, including some crucial ones. So I mean, you just, you know, he, by the way, he has a thumb.
Host
I was gonna ask you if you're worried about the thumb, you know.
Anthony Slater
Yeah. I mean, he's saying no, but he always says no. Right, right. It's. It's been hurting him all year and he resprained it in Portland and this one seemed like it's. It's bothering him, but he's. He'll still make threes and everything. Jimmy Butler got kneed by Kawhi Leonard in the thigh.
Xena
He says he's fine, but he's real.
Anthony Slater
He was really limping post game in the locker room and then Draymond Green left the game for like 10 minutes, the locker room after he took a neck thing. So reminder about this team's age and, you know, the accumulation of. Of a NBA regular season. So there are concerns in many ways. And one of the concerns wrapping it back to your question is like, who Steve Kerr uses as like the fourth, fifth guys in some of these certain lineups.
Host
I mean, I think it's probably going to defend especially against Memphis. Right. Like, what is the foul situation for Jaren Jackson look like when you get down the stretch of this game? I mean, you know, the, the last game with these guys, it fell apart when they got Jaren Jackson into foul trouble. And so you have to think that that's probably the game plan I this more aggressive Jimmy Butler. But you know, Kaminga, this could be a spot where like you said, first quarter, Kaminga minutes just to see if he's going to bring anything. I mean, to get to be able to be aggressive, get attack the basket. He's another guy who draws fouls. I mean, maybe that. That could play in.
Anthony Slater
It sounds great in theory, but I'm not sure the head coach is where, you know, pundits are at or, you know, other people believe that like, you know, at least giving him a shot. He's. He completely DMPed him in year four right before his restrictive free agency. We'll see. I think, you know, I think if they get into a Houston series. Kaminga has games of 33 points, 20 points to 23 points this season against the Rockets. His athleticism plays historically has played well against like, you know, Houston's. And that's a more of a series where it's like, feel out. I think Steve Kerr's concern on these games are these. They're these one game, high stakes, you win, you move on, you lose, you kind of like take a stair, step down, just like the Memphis game. So he does not appear to trust Jonathan Kaminga in those type of environments. So, like, I don't really expect to see him in the rotation. Maybe I'm, maybe I'm wrong, but. But that's seems to be the head coach's choice right now.
Xena
Yeah, I understand why GP2 comes in from a elevation. I've said this, I said this on yesterday's pod, like from an elevation of understanding how to space, when to space, when to attack the basket, also the ball movement. What I don't understand, I struggle to understand is how in Year four, as you mentioned Slater, that trust has not been built or the evolution of Jonathan Kaminga to fit this system has not happened yet. But that again is another three hour podcast.
Host
Yeah, that's sometime in the summer when they're thinking about trading him. You know what I mean?
Anthony Slater
I assume I'm gonna have a story that details it at some point heading into restrictive reagency. I mean, you know, part of it is like, he's not doing what they want him to do as far as, like, they want him to be this like, slashing, Sean Marion type wing. He obviously wants, like, he, he views himself long term as like a 20 plus point per game. I think the Jimmy Butler trade, you know, it created a trickier environment for him where, like, Jimmy Butler's like an isolation, slower, standstill guy who needs the spacing. Kaminga is no longer getting the ball as much and like, you know, it's a little bit. It's like a mini version of like the Jason Tatum issue this summer where Jason Tatum is getting DMPs and Steve Kerr's getting, you know, slammed for that. It was like, well, Jason Tatum's kind of the fourth or fifth guy offensively out here and he's not as good as Derrick White at being a role player. Right. Well, Kaminga is in this environment, particularly in a Draymond Jimmy Crunch spacing lineup, a role player that doesn't do the type of stuff like space the floor, slash and cut, not want usage, defend hard in transition like all that. Like, he does need to defend a little bit better, but part of the reason he's not doing some of that stuff is because he's sitting here in year four like, you've never believed in me, but again, I don't want to go down this Road right now, my.
Xena
Question was going to be about Memphis, and my question is going to be about Memphis, the Warriors particularly. Like, what are the big advantages you think each team has over the other going into this matchup?
Anthony Slater
Yeah, I think, you know, Memphis is still very dangerous offensively. John morant went like 14 of 22 in their last game, had 36 points. It was the. You know, he was celebrating, too. I think, if y'all remember some of those threes, but he's really tough for them to guard and, you know, we'll see. You know, Gary will help. Help them a little bit. He was not available in that game. Neither was Kaminga, but generally, like, they're gonna have. They're gonna struggle to stay in front of him, and then when. When they can't stay in front of him, and they're gonna have to overhelp. And then how many threes did Jaren Jackson hit? How Desmond Bain and, you know, some of some of the others. Santia, Santiago. Dama was like a -26 in that game, and that was. He was playing a lot of the minutes that Jaren Jackson went off the floor because of foul trouble. And then the other thing is, like, if Jaren Jackson has, like, a defensive player of the year type game where he stays out of foul trouble, he has four blocks, there's eight other shots. And Draymond's kind of hesitation, you know, floaters, and Jimmy's kind of passing out because he. He doesn't know if he can finish over him like that could. That could change the game. So that's an advantage that they. I would say Memphis kind of has over the warriors, but I. I just think Memphis is not. Overall, besides Jaren Jackson, very good defensively. Zach Edie is going to be a target, and they're just probably going to try to try to run him, you know, around in that building and that game. I mean, you mentioned Steph Curry had 52 points and 12 threes. There was, like, so many breakdowns by the Grizzlies, and that included what I thought, like, Jalen Wells is one of their better options on the perimeter. He was guarding stuff. He's out for the season. So they're just. They. They're gonna have trouble with Steph. I think.
Host
Yeah, the bottom fell out for them. I don't think they've got much of a chance. Anthony Slater, go and read them at the Athletic. That's gonna do it for today's show. We got. We're in the play in. Guys play in playoffs. I think it all feels the same, but we've made it for Xena Keda. I'm Dave Dufour, and this has been the NBA Daily. Thanks for waking up with us.
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The Athletic NBA Daily: Warriors, Grizzlies Deep Dive + Play-In Preview (April 15, 2025)
Hosted by Dave DuFour, Zena Keita, and Esfandiar Baraheni
In the April 15, 2025 episode of The Athletic NBA Daily, hosts Dave DuFour and Zena Keita delve into the pivotal play-in games shaping the NBA playoffs. Joined by NBA analyst Anthony Slater, the discussion centers around critical matchups, team performances, and the strategic implications of the play-in tournament. This episode provides listeners with a comprehensive analysis of the upcoming games, insights into team dynamics, and expert predictions on the potential outcomes.
As the regular season concludes, the NBA play-in tournament emerges as a battleground for teams striving to secure their playoff berths. The episode kicks off with an overview of the current play-in landscape, highlighting the matchups between the Golden State Warriors and Memphis Grizzlies, as well as the Atlanta Hawks versus the Orlando Magic.
Host (02:27):
"We've made it through the regular season. We are at the play-in. The play-in games are tonight. We've got the Warriors and Grizzlies and we've got the Hawks and the Magic."
The Hawks and Magic face off in what Zena Keita describes as "a battle of average teams." Both teams have navigated through injuries and inconsistent performances to reach this stage.
Zena Keita (03:48):
"I hate that both of these teams are missing very key Jalens. I think that that's makes it for not a true Atlanta Orlando matchup."
Key players like Trae Young for the Hawks and Paolo Banchero for the Magic are under the spotlight. The discussion touches on Orlando's defensive strategies against Trey Young's offensive prowess.
Host (04:43):
"You have this Trey Young led offense versus the Orlando Magic defense. I think that it will be a fun game and have a playoff atmosphere."
Anthony Slater provides an in-depth analysis of the Warriors' chances against the Grizzlies, emphasizing the Warriors' defensive capabilities and home-court advantage.
Anthony Slater (15:35):
"It's in San Francisco, which helps."
He highlights Jimmy Butler's impact on the Grizzlies and the Warriors' strategic adjustments, including their defensive matchups and key player performances.
Slater (16:59):
"They have a lot of stuff going for them in this matchup, including the Grizzlies teams of the past that used to defend them well no longer exist."
The Kings and Mavericks clash in a matchup filled with championship aspirations. Zena Keita points out the Kings' motivation to prove themselves after a challenging season.
Zena Keita (05:04):
"Mavericks Kings will be really interesting. Of course, Mavericks, Klay Thompson AD like you've got people that have championship pedigree that want to get their teams back into the mix."
The Bulls face the surprisingly vulnerable Heat, who have struggled despite their high-seed status. Discussions focus on the Bulls' resilience and the Heat's inconsistency post their Jimmy Butler trade.
Host (05:04):
"I think that will be more interesting to see than the Bulls and the Heat. Even though Bulls have been one of the most exciting teams this season."
The hosts explore the potential playoff bracket, identifying four compelling matchups: Nuggets vs. Clippers, Lakers vs. Wolves, Pacers vs. Bucks, and Knicks vs. Pistons.
Host (07:07):
"We got the Nuggets and Clippers, you've got the Lakers and Wolves, you've got the Pacers and Bucks and you've got the Knicks and Pistons."
Zena Keita (07:47):
"I'm thinking Lakers, Timberwolves. Every one of these series has something special going on."
A critical discussion ensues about the vulnerability of top seeds like the Thunder, Cavs, Rockets, and Celtics. Anthony Slater identifies the Rockets as the most susceptible due to their inconsistent star performances.
Anthony Slater (11:49):
"I think the Rockets are probably going to be the most vulnerable simply because of their star quality, their stars, and I would say that would be Alperin Shangoon and Jalen Green are the most inconsistent of the other stars."
The episode touches upon recent management changes in the NBA, specifically the New Orleans Pelicans parting ways with GM David Griffin and the Suns moving on from coach Mike Budenholzer. The hosts express mixed reactions to these developments.
Zena Keita (13:46):
"Griffin was a little bit of a surprise. I'm shocked that he went first without Willie Green being a part of it."
Returning to the central matchup, Anthony Slater discusses the Warriors' strategies against the Grizzlies, focusing on defensive setups and key player matchups.
Anthony Slater (17:36):
"It's all about what the alternative is. And the alternative is you go play a Friday night game at home against the winner of Kings Mavericks with a chance for, you know, theoretically Klay Thompson to come into Chase center and try to end your season."
He underscores the importance of winning the play-in to avoid facing tough opponents like the Thunder early in the playoffs.
The conversation shifts to injury concerns affecting key players like Stephen Curry and Jimmy Butler. The hosts discuss how these injuries could impact the Warriors' performance in the critical play-in game.
Anthony Slater (22:54):
"Steph had a thumb injury that's been bothering him all year. He was really limping post-game in the locker room."
As the episode draws to a close, Anthony Slater reiterates his confidence in the Warriors overcoming the Grizzlies, citing their defensive prowess and home-court advantage.
Anthony Slater (27:09):
"They're favored by seven and a half. They just beat Memphis in Memphis. I think they have a lot of stuff going for them in this matchup."
The hosts wrap up with final thoughts on the play-in tournament's significance and the potential ripple effects on the NBA playoffs.
Host (28:46):
"We've got drama in the play-in even. I do want to talk a little bit about the actual playoff bracket. Obviously, we know the Thunder and the Cavs, two best teams this season by record."
This episode of The Athletic NBA Daily offers a thorough examination of the NBA play-in games, providing listeners with expert analysis, strategic insights, and nuanced predictions. From the Warriors' defensive strategies to the vulnerabilities of top-seeded teams, the discussion equips fans with the knowledge to navigate the complexities of the upcoming playoffs.
Notable Quotes:
Host (02:27):
"We've made it through the regular season. We are at the play-in."
Zena Keita (05:04):
"The Bulls just somehow like they play hard. Right. And that gives them a chance in every single game."
Anthony Slater (15:35):
"It's in San Francisco, which helps."
Anthony Slater (11:49):
"I think the Rockets are probably going to be the most vulnerable simply because of their star quality."
Anthony Slater (17:36):
"It's all about what the alternative is."
This summary captures the essence of the April 15, 2025 episode of The Athletic NBA Daily, providing a detailed overview of the discussions and analyses presented by the hosts and guest Anthony Slater.