What teams NEED to make a trade | Morning Shoot Around

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Podcast Summary: The Athletic NBA Daily

Episode: What teams NEED to make a trade | Morning Shoot Around
Date: January 28, 2026
Hosts: Andrew Schlecht, Dave DuFour, Zena Keita

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Overview

This episode dives deep into the impending NBA Trade Deadline, analyzing which teams need to make trades, which probably won’t, and the factors driving those decisions. Using a "trade tier" framework, the hosts categorize all 30 NBA teams, debating the urgency and logic behind potential moves. The discussion is shaped by breaking news around a potential Giannis Antetokounmpo trade, the ripple effects of superstar movement, and the often unpredictable behavior of front offices under deadline pressure.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The Giannis Antetokounmpo Trade Saga

• Opening Discussion: The show starts with the hosts reacting to a cryptic report that Giannis is “ready for a new home” at the trading deadline or in the offseason. The consensus: It's a “weird” report that keeps everyone in suspense.
• Quotes:
  • “It’s a weird read... like, man, oh, it’s such a silly update.” – Xena (02:45)
  • “He learned the Damian Lillard playbook... how to amicably break up with a long-term team without sounding like I’m trying to break up.” – Xena (05:00)
• Evaluation: The Bucks are at a crossroads: either tank and trade Giannis soon for maximum return, or risk further uncertainty and less value later on. The panel agrees tanking is the clear path.
• Timestamps:
  • [03:11] – Giannis trade rumor breakdown
  • [08:22] – Bucks "trades to tank" discussion

2. Trade Tiers Explained

The hosts introduce six categories and slot teams:

• Going for it: Aggressively seeking immediate upgrades.
• Trades to tank: Offloading to rebuild or increase lottery odds.
• Future trades: Moves that set up for later seasons.
• Should make a trade but won’t: Self-explanatory inaction.
• Going to make a stupid trade: Teams likely to panic or make illogical decisions.
• No trade: Standing pat.

3. East & West Teams Under the Microscope

Milwaukee Bucks:

Tier: Trades to tank

• Consensus: With Giannis’ situation unstable, it’s reset time.
• Key Asset Questions: Which teams offer blue-chip prospects, or the Bucks’ own picks back?
• “I think it’s time.” – Andrew (10:09)

Brooklyn Nets:

Tier: Trades to tank

• “Just make guys available... try to get more draft assets.” – Xena (19:17)

New York Knicks:

Tier: Going for it

• Their window is now; must maximize a roster in its prime.
• “You’re not going to get a better opportunity to get to the Finals than this.” – Xena (19:57)

Toronto Raptors:

Tier: Future trades

• Not competitive enough; possibly get under the tax, avoid chasing stars.
• “Giannis needs shooters. If there’s one thing the Raptors don’t have, it’s shooting.” – Xena (23:30)

Utah Jazz:

Tier: Future trades

• Could move expiring contracts (e.g., Nurkic), and possibly veterans like Miles Turner/Bobby Portis.

Houston Rockets:

Tier: No trade

• Young core developing, in a good spot; KD acquisition adds confusion but not urgency.

New Orleans Pelicans:

Tier: Going to make a stupid trade

• History of questionable deals; might ship off Trey Murphy or Eve Mece for little return.
• “They’ve been really good at that—really, really good at that.” – Andrew (33:13)

Los Angeles Lakers:

Tier: Split between "going for it" and "no trade"

• Have LeBron, should always be pushing, but asset cupboard may be bare; future picks open up this summer.
• “Where are they coming up with the assets to make a trade that makes a big enough difference?” – Dave (35:09)

Golden State Warriors:

Tier: Should make a trade but won’t

• Steph Curry’s window is closing; front office hesitant after failed big swings.
• “You should be desperately trying to make a trade, but now you don’t have Jimmy.” – Xena (49:48)
• “It's okay that the Warriors had one of the most epic runs in NBA history, and then they just want to ride it out with Steph.” – Andrew (51:02)

4. The Trade Domino Effect

• Superstar moves (like Giannis) could trigger a cascade: “If this drags out to Thursday, we could have a situation where a Giannis trade happens and then 20 other trades happen right after.” – Dave (21:32)

5. Sleeper Trade Candidates and Value Moves

• Kobe White as a key potential get for contenders needing point guard play.
• Miles Turner & Bobby Portis: Solid options for teams like Boston or Utah looking for size and flexibility.
• Colin Sexton and Naji Marshall: Next-tier contributors who could shape playoff rotations.
• “If the Cavaliers wound up with Naji Marshall, that would help them a lot.” – Andrew (47:00)

6. Talking Salaries, Second Apron, and Market Realities

• Teams like Denver, Cleveland struggle to make moves with second-apron restrictions.
• On contracts: “$25M is the new $15M.” – Andrew (28:10)
• The need to “duck the tax” drives many small or future-focused trades.

7. Tanking vs. Going for It: Philosophies Clash

• The perpetual dilemma: Cash in now, or build/preserve flexibility for later?
• The panel is often cynical about middle-of-the-pack teams refusing to pick a lane.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the chaos of deadline day: “I want an IV drip of trades all day next Thursday because we’re going to be live all day for the deadline.” – Dave (21:48)
• On Warriors' endgame: “You beg, you plead, you do everything you can. You trade all the future assets… you just say it’s gonna suck when he’s gone, but while he’s here, we’ll just make it work.” – Dave (51:31)
• On Philly's risky bet: “You’re about to have the football pulled out from you again, and you don’t even realize it right now…Do you trust Joel Embiid and Paul George to be healthy for four playoff rounds?” – Andrew (58:50)
• On trade values: “What is the demand? Because…with these trades, conversations are being had … ‘Great, you want to trade for Ben Matherin, he wants a four-year $125 million deal, do you want to pay him that?’” – Andrew (67:51)

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Timestamped Key Segments

• [03:11] – Giannis rumors and the Bucks’ fork in the road
• [08:22] – Bucks and the benefits vs. risks of tanking
• [19:17] – Nets embracing rebuild; Knicks' urgent push
• [32:53] – Houston and the “finding your identity” debate
• [33:13] – Pelicans’ history of panic/illogical trades
• [35:09] – Are the Lakers even able to make a difference-making trade?
• [49:48] – Warriors' dilemma: desperation or acceptance
• [51:02] – Accepting the end of a dynasty era
• [58:50] – The ticking clock in Philly: urgency vs. health risk

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Fun & Memorable Podcast Moments

• “Crash with Jason Statham” as a metaphor for the hosts’ deadline trade preferences. (22:06)
• Ongoing inside jokes about obscure nicknames and internet handles in the chat.
• A passionate tangent on the legend of Colin Sexton playing 3-on-5 in college. (60:59)

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Final Trade Tiers Snapshot

Going For It:

• Knicks, Timberwolves, Clippers, Celtics, Pistons (aspirational)

Trades to Tank:

• Bucks, Nets, Grizzlies, Mavericks

Future Trades:

• Raptors, Jazz, Blazers, Nuggets, Suns, Pacers, Hornets

Should Make a Trade but Won't:

• Warriors, Heat, Magic

Going to Make a Stupid Trade:

• Kings (inferred), Pelicans

No Trade:

• Rockets, Spurs, Thunder, others by implication

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Takeaway

With only days left before the trade deadline, front offices across the league are facing tough choices: push chips in for a playoff run, blow it up, or—most commonly—hesitate and risk stagnation. The fate of Giannis looms largest, but once that domino falls, the entire landscape could shift in a flurry of deals (or missteps). The episode offers a lively, informed, and occasionally irreverent primer for fans trying to make sense of frantic trade season dynamics.

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[Andrew]

Welcome to the morning shoot around here on the Athletic MBA Daily. We're live on our YouTube page. We would love to have you join us on a weekly basis usually around 1 o' clock Eastern time, which I know is not the morning. But you know what? For people like Dave and Xena.

[Dave]

That's right.

[Andrew]

So in your face everybody else. All right. The trade deadline is eight days away. We did have a report drop today about Giannis which is exciting and I all I can think about is we're doing a studio show next week in Chicago at the Athletic football show studio. That's right for the trade deadline. We're going to be broadcasting from 8:00am Central all the way probably until like 2:33 o' clock ish. So we will be live. We would love to have you join us then as well. And all I can think about is please. Milwaukee Bucks 1 wait until next Thursday and then 2, please trade him. So the report is. It's a. It's a weird read. You know, like, sometimes you read something and you're just like, man, oh, it's.

[Xena]

Such a silly update.

[Andrew]

This is a really weird read. And here it is.

[Dave]

2 times chat GPT. Tell me how to make a vague trade request from a player, please.

[Andrew]

I don't know. This is. This is even like a level above chat GPT.

[Dave]

Is there an M dash in it? I. I haven't actually looked at the report.

[Xena]

Hey, M dashes are useful, by the way.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they are.

[Xena]

I had a. I had.

[Dave]

Early M dashes were invented in 2009.

[Andrew]

All right, Dave, let me read the tweet. Okay, here we go. I gotta read this tweet. Okay. Two time MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo is ready for a new home at the February 5th NBA Trade Deadline or in the off season as several rival teams make aggressive offers to the Milwaukee Bucks for him, comma, and the franchise is starting to listen, comma, league sources tell espn.

[Xena]

This does sound like a WWE promo, you know, like one of those wrestling.

[Unknown]

This just makes me think. I mean, if you're watching on YouTube, you could see my face. But you guys know the woman that does the kombucha, tasting that, like, tastes the first.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Part of the kombucha, and she has.

[Xena]

No idea what you're talking about, you.

[Unknown]

Know, and then she's like, oh, yeah, I remember. Yeah, yeah. And then she's like, no, no, no, no, no. And that's exactly how I feel as I'm reading that. It's like, wait, okay, but kombucha is good, though. Is this something. Yes. That's not the point, Dave. The point is all the emotions you go through as you read the tweet. You're just like, if you're another gm, you're like, oh, he's ready for another home right now or at the end of the season. But, like, it's just like, where are we? Where are we at?

[Andrew]

Where do we land? I mean, we're. We're kind of in the same place that we've always been, where Shams has been, like, slow playing these reports for a long time now. And it's really just Giannis and his agent that are like, we'd love to leave, but we also would love to stay, but leaving is also good. And staying also as long as you think we want to stay. That's what we want you to believe.

[Dave]

That's it.

[Andrew]

Andrew.

[Xena]

He learned the Damian Lillard playbook Like a T like that. If there was one thing Giannis picked up from playing with Dame was how do I amicably break up with my long term team without sounding like I'm trying to break up with my long term team?

[Dave]

But you know what the problem there is? I think he's worn out the Bucks fans a little bit on this.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. How would you feel if you're a Bucks fan right now? Like you're. I would be annoyed. Like, come on, let's just do this.

[Dave]

They could have been tanking this year, you know, I mean, this just sets them back, you know, a half a season, basically. I mean, we'll see. They. They could still definitely tank.

[Andrew]

I was about to say, yeah, let's opportunity.

[Dave]

But if they hang on to him till the off season, I mean, he's not going to play anymore this year, right? That pretty clear that he's not gonna play for the Bucks again. And if they trade him during the off season, maybe they can get more. I just don't know. I mean, I think if I'm a team that's thinking about trading for Giannis, I'd like to do it right now, especially if I'm in the east, because you have a shot at making the finals and Giannis is one of the few players that's going to be available at the deadline that's a star. I mean, this guy, he takes a, you know, your team to the finals. Any of the Eastern Conference teams in the top six, if they could get Giannis, right, they become the favorite, don't they?

[Andrew]

Yeah, as long as he can play, right?

[Dave]

As long as he's healthy and can play. But I don't know. Doctor, Dr. Giannis told us four to six weeks. So what is that, early March?

[Andrew]

Yeah. I mean, that's enough time.

[Dave]

That's one of the funnier things I've ever seen. It is doing this is a player saying, I'm gonna. It feels like I'm gonna be out four to six weeks.

[Andrew]

I love it.

[Dave]

It's. Hey, listen, that's the kind of disclosure we want, right?

[Xena]

Yeah, it's actually exactly what I did when I broke my ankle. I'm like, oh, man. I know it. Six to eight weeks in a boot.

[Andrew]

Yes. So funny. That's what I said when I tore my ACL. I said 46 weeks.

[Unknown]

Oh, God.

[Andrew]

All right, all right, let's, let's, let's, let's get to the main event here. So we are going to do trade tiers today. All right, so if you're watching on YouTube, you can follow along and see our trade tiers that we have. We're going to put all 30 teams into at least one category. So the categories are as follows. First category, going for it. These are teams that are at the deadline, going to be making trades to help them improve right now. Next category, trades to tank. There are teams out there that need to make a few more trades just to tear it down a little bit more.

[Xena]

Yep.

[Andrew]

Future trades. This. This is like the. The Trae Young deal where it's like, yeah, we're. We're going to put Trey Young on ice, but we like to have him now, please. But not for this year. Okay. So trades of that nature. Teams that should make a trade but won't. Teams that are going to make a stupid trade, and then we have no.

[Unknown]

Why the. Why are the Kings already.

[Xena]

You know why the Kings are already added in there.

[Andrew]

I don't know who did that. I don't know who would put the Kings and going to make a stupid trade. But you know what? They're right. Whoever did that did a good job.

[Dave]

Correct.

[Andrew]

Yeah. So let's. Let's. Let's start. Let's start with the Milwaukee Bucks.

[Dave]

Oh, man.

[Andrew]

They happen to be the first team right here.

[Xena]

Trades to tank.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they need. They need to tank. This is the opportunity to do it. And they. They need to. Because, I mean, let's. Let's say that they do trade Giannis. They get picks, they get a young player, and let's say they get the second pick in the draft.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Then you're actually on your way.

[Dave]

Right.

[Andrew]

To the next version of your team.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So.

[Dave]

And by the way, the way these.

[Xena]

Things work, usually, as we've seen from Luka Doncic getting traded and the Mavs getting the number one pick and then Anth. Anthony Davis getting traded and the Pelicans getting the number one overall pick.

[Andrew]

Yep.

[Xena]

I wouldn't be necessarily. They can't get the number one pick because that would be the Pelicans.

[Andrew]

They can get the number two pick.

[Xena]

They could get the number two pick, and it would be just as good. So.

[Andrew]

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. They. They. They need to. I mean, because let's say that Giannis comes back, right. And they. He even in a crazy world that he signs an extension, really, the only way that you could convince him to do that, I think, is if Giannis sits out the rest of the season, they do tank, and then maybe they do get the number two pick with Giannis still on the team. But to me, that's not a path to winning a championship. That's a path to the middle for your team.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And then having, like, having like these two timelines of a guy who's like, really ready to win and then a guy who, you know, I don't know. If you take Cameron Boozer, I don't know who you're going to take to Bansa, who I don't think fits with Giannis all that well, but you pick the guy that you think is the best. Like, I. I still don't think that team is contending for like two or three years. And then like, who. Who knows how much longer Giannis is going to be at his peak.

[Dave]

Right.

[Andrew]

I think it's time.

[Xena]

No, it's definitely time. It absolutely is time. And like, you know, based on the teams that are interested, slash, could make a deal. I'm kind of curious what the blue chip prospect is that the Bucks could get because, okay, Miami, I guess Khalil Ware is the blue chip prospect.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Xena]

For New York. They don't have a blue chip prospect. Golden State doesn't have a blue chip prospect. Sarzina and. Yeah, no, I hear you. And then I can't think of, like, if Orlando gets in here and says, we will offer you Paulo Bankero, do they just.

[Dave]

Is that it?

[Xena]

That's the trade.

[Dave]

I would do that in a heartbeat. If I was Orlando, I would agree. I would do that. Can I give him two pao Bankeros I. I like. Yeah, that would be amazing, actually. If Orlando tried to swing a trade.

[Xena]

Like that, would you like, would Phil and bj, Right.

[Dave]

I'm trying to. I'm trying to exist in the NBA world. I do not think Giannis would agree to a tr. Because the thing is, you need Giannis to say, I'm gonna sign an extension.

[Xena]

Right? Yeah.

[Dave]

And I don't think he will do that in Orlando. What if Orlando maybe had. And. And part of that is because it's Orlando, but they had like a better ownership or something like that. They had some kind of a history of being competitive. Maybe like we. If it was. If Orlando was Miami, then maybe I could see the Heat if they had more to offer. I just don't think that they're going to have the best package.

[Xena]

So then who does? Like, who.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Xena]

Has the best package?

[Dave]

Yeah, I mean, I actually think. Look. And in the chat on YouTube, Eric Weiss says this. The pro move for Milwaukee is Atlanta.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Working with Atlanta. Trying to get your. Because doesn't Atlanta have the Bucks pick also?

[Xena]

They have. They do have they have, it's like a buck swap that they have.

[Dave]

So maybe it's, you get that New Orleans pick, you get that swap back, and then you build out a framework from there. You're not going to get Jalen Johnson.

[Xena]

No.

[Dave]

Right. That's off the table.

[Xena]

No, but it's like Risa Shea, Asa Newell.

[Dave]

Right. You can get some young guys, you could get high value picks and that completely resets your table and you're ready to go. Don't forget they've got Miles Turner. That's going to have a market. I mean, I think that they could move Miles Turner and get something. Bobby Portis has a market. We talked about about that this morning with Hunter Patterson.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I, I, he could be a guy for the Pistons. So they could theoretically in the next week do a complete tear down.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Because they have some stuff. It's just, they don't have, they don't have good enough stuff.

[Andrew]

It would take two trades to tear it down. Dave. It's torn down.

[Dave]

That's, that's it.

[Xena]

So, so they are, they are clearly in this.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I would say the Atlanta move makes a lot of sense if Atlanta wants to do it.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

The question is also is do they want to do this by February 5th or do they want to do this after the season?

[Dave]

Well, there's this thing about holding the powder. Right. Keep your powder dry. We'll move it to the summer. But I think that there is such an opportunity, especially in the east, to make the finals this season.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

And I would even say look out west. If you look at how, how bunched up the top four, in my opinion are, maybe one of these teams says, you know what, we can do it. What if they didn't lose last night, Andrew. But they were, they, you know, it was a tough game against the Pelicans. I mean, what if the Thunder just say, hey, look, you know what, we're winning a title if we get Giannis. Let's just do it.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I don't think that they're not going.

[Andrew]

To do, they're not doing it.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Some team might just to have a differentiator. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I mean, Houston's already said they're not going to do it. I don't think San Antonio is going to do it. I don't think Denver can't, I don't think Denver has, yeah.

[Xena]

Denver.

[Andrew]

It takes to do it either. I really do think it's like these east teams and it's really like what team has that blue chip prospect? Because it's funny like the teams that do have them, like the Thunder, like the San Antonio, like Houston, they're all just kind of like, you know what? We're, we're good, we're okay is what it seems like. Because those are the three teams that you could say could probably most easily trade with the salaries they have, with the young prospects they have, with all the draft picks that they have. Like, those are the teams that are like the easiest that if you're Milwaukee, you're like, we want those teams to be making these quote unquote aggressive offers for Giannis.

[Xena]

I also like, I do wonder how much they will consider where Giannis wants to go.

[Andrew]

Because you have to.

[Xena]

It's just gotten to the point where like the relationship is over but at the same time he has done so much for the franchise. He's the franchise all time leading scorer, best player in the franchise history, etc. How much do you do right by that guy and say, well if he wants to go to Miami, right. And, and they're offering us this versus I don't know, Detroit is offering us a Sar Thompson and multiple picks, whatever.

[Dave]

Do you. It's, this is like Kawhi, man. It's like Kawhi. If he's not going to sign the extension, you're not going to get you, you aren't going to get enough to reset your table. Unless he's going to a team that he is committing to signing the extension to. Yeah, so there, that's the conundrum that they're in. All right, the best deal.

[Unknown]

Well, they might look at the Luca thing and say, you know what, it worked out for them. For who? For Lakers. He signed the extension.

[Dave]

I mean if they did, if the Lakers was gonna make, were gonna make this trade, sure, he's gonna sign an extension with the Lakers, which by the way, that makes the trade.

[Unknown]

And I was just gonna say if the Knicks, I mean, that's the other team we haven't talked about yet is thinking about a place that Giannis would actually want to go to that are, you know, is in contention. Would this would absolutely be a differentiator, something that elevates them in terms of the pedestal in the East. Yeah, I feel like you make the trade to the Knicks, that could be the landing spot. I don't know why have we moved away from that being the space that we're looking at. I don't know.

[Dave]

Just don't have the best packages is the thing. So like Carl Anthony Towns, that salary works, but if you're the Bucks, you're Not trading Giannis for Carl Anthony Towns, like, they don't have, they don't have enough picks to make this deal. The Mikhail Bridges trade really, like, just took away all their options in the asset pool. But the thing is, if Giannis wants to be a Knick, there's. There are ways to make it, to make it work. It just takes a lot of work.

[Xena]

Can I suggest the team or our framework here? Yeah. Carl Anthony Towns to the Hawks picks and that package that we're just talking about back to Milwaukee and then Giannis to New York.

[Dave]

Okay. That is. I mean, that's kind of interesting.

[Unknown]

I feel like any of these, I mean, regardless of if he's going to a western team or an eastern team, it always has felt like it needed to be a three team situation.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Yeah, probably. Yeah.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Portland's, Portland's the other one. Because Portland holds a lot of the Milwaukee Bucks draft assets.

[Dave]

Right.

[Andrew]

So if they could get them back, which, if any team is going to tank, the most valuable asset is your own draft pick.

[Dave]

Yep.

[Andrew]

And so if they can find a way to get their own draft picks back and rope the Blazers into this somehow.

[Dave]

Well, the Knicks, you know, there's all this reports that the Knicks are in on Drew Holiday, so maybe, which I.

[Xena]

Love for them, by the way.

[Andrew]

Could, yeah.

[Dave]

Could there be something with like, Mikhail Bridges and. I mean, I don't have the trade. I should have the trade machine pulled up, but maybe Mikhail Bridges and Cat are both leaving New York and maybe you've got a pick or two coming from Portland to Milwaukee.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, I think it's, it's. It. This is where it's like, okay, this is where it's going to be really hard for this to happen in a week.

[Xena]

Well, that's why it's easier to do it in the summer, too.

[Dave]

Yeah. But I will say, Andrew, this. If there's a trade coming, whatever trade it is, they definitely have been kicking around for a few weeks.

[Andrew]

Yeah. And also there is also the aspect of this might be easier to do at the draft because then you know what the picks are. Yeah. You have to ask yourself the question, are we okay living in this, like, middle ground where we don't know exactly what we're gonna get, but we got some valuable draft assets that either could be the number two pick in the draft or maybe it's the fifth or sixth pick in the draft, which is not nearly as good. So I think that there, there may be an aspect where maybe you want to wait until you know what's going to happen and maybe make the trade on draft night anyways.

[Xena]

But they are a team that's going to tank or trade to tank.

[Andrew]

They should, they should trade to tank the Brooklyn Nets. I think that they are also a team that should trade to tank.

[Xena]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yes. Yes, I agree. Nick Claxton, like, I just make guys.

[Xena]

Available, I would say Michael Porter Jr etc.

[Andrew]

Try to get more draft assets for the Nets and continue to try to build from the ground up. Definitely the Knicks, they have to go for it. They have no choice because they are going for it as we speak.

[Xena]

Yep.

[Dave]

Right.

[Andrew]

And they have, I think one of, like the more. I don't even know how to word this, but their roster is all in their prime right now.

[Xena]

Yep.

[Andrew]

And they, they like are going for it. And so when you are a team that's constructed in that position, you have to make trades to go for it.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Xena]

And it's also the Eastern Conference is the way that it is. So you, like, I don't think, think about next year's east with the Pacers eventually being back, Tatum back with the Celtics. Like, you're not going to get a better opportunity to get to the Finals than this.

[Dave]

This is it.

[Andrew]

So Knicks are going for it. Okay. Next.

[Dave]

My thing with the Knicks is if it's not Giannis, I don't know what the move is for him.

[Xena]

I do like Drew Holiday.

[Dave]

I like Drew for them too. But, but the issue is what are you giving up? And I, I think that the, their biggest problem is, is defensively in the middle when Mitchell Robinson's available, they look great. Yeah, it's great when he's, when he's not. It's rough and I. That's just hard. It's hard to hang your hat on that, especially once you get into the playoffs. And you know, the stuff with Carl Anthony Towns is just super weird right now. And I would be nervous about going, you know, into the playoff push with whatever's happening there. I don't know. I mean, it's never good when you're talking about firing, you know, in the media at least your first year coach before the All Star break.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Xena]

So funny this is happening to Mike Brown again. That's just hilarious.

[Dave]

Funny or the Knicks in my pattern.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I, I would also, I would also say that if Giannis does get traded, not to the Knicks, I think the Knicks are more likely to make a deal then, because I do think that, that if they, if Giannis stays on the Bucks, that the Knicks will, will wait and say like, hey, we're still here. Yeah.

[Dave]

If this, if this drags out to Thursday, we could have a situation where a Giannis trade happens and then 20 other trades happen right after.

[Unknown]

Right this. He's a domino effect, which is what.

[Xena]

We are all hoping for.

[Dave]

No, I would like a steady trickle. I want an IV drip of trades all day next Thursday because we're gonna be live all day for the deadline.

[Xena]

No, I want, I want streamline trade. I want to. You ever watch Crash with Jason. Jason Statham? That's what I want.

[Dave]

See that? I, I, that's how I want the draft. I actually just. Just give me. Just give me the printout with the draft choices. I don't need to watch the pop in circles. I don't need prints out.

[Xena]

Is insane.

[Andrew]

Dude, that is.

[Dave]

I don't need it.

[Andrew]

Dude, that is.

[Unknown]

Just reading them in direct order is awesome.

[Dave]

It's like your, Your high school or college graduation. That's not for. That's not for them. It's for their parents.

[Andrew]

Oh, my God, Dave. Sometimes, like, people say, like, I'm on an island with this take. You are on an island with that take.

[Xena]

Yeah, you're totally.

[Andrew]

All right. Raptors S. Could have been an email.

[Xena]

I think they will probably. I would say future trades.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Xena]

They're gonna get out of the tax. They're currently in the tax. I would be pretty surprised if they go for it. I don't even know what going for it would mean for this team.

[Dave]

They're too far away to go for it.

[Xena]

I agree with you. I don't think they're. They're at that point also, like, this is. This is a team that will, just because of the way that they operate, they will try to get involved in Giannis stuff, and I don't think they have what it takes to get Giannis unless they involve Scotty Barnes.

[Dave]

Right.

[Xena]

So.

[Dave]

And I think that would be a mistake.

[Xena]

Yeah, I agree. So, yeah, I think they just do future trades. Maybe get a backup center, call it a day.

[Andrew]

Yeah. How do you feel about Scotty and Giannis on the same team? Obviously defensive, Pretty weird. It's kind of awesome. But offensively, I don't really understand how.

[Xena]

Yeah, that would be clunky. No doubt about that.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Xena]

I think, like, the, the fit would be weird. And they. Giannis needs shooters. If there's one thing the Raptors don't have, it's shooting. It's consistent shot making. So I don't. I don't see a world in which they do it. Like, maybe you could convince yourself if Giannis was like, I want to go to Toronto, but. Right. I don't think he.

[Dave]

He didn't do it when Messiah was there. He's not going to do it now. Exactly.

[Andrew]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Utah Jazz is the next team up on the, on this team.

[Dave]

You know, they are in an interesting position because they are not as bad as their record appears.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Dave]

But I think that they might be a future by design.

[Andrew]

They are not as bad as the record appears.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Dave]

They have an opportunity to both trade, to tank a little bit better and to make themselves better next season. Does Nurkic have a market?

[Xena]

I think he would.

[Unknown]

I think he has proven himself. Yes. I think he's.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

This year for sure.

[Andrew]

He makes 19. He's a 19 million dollar expiring.

[Dave]

Right. And so look, I'm. I've been talking about Zubotch to Boston. Shout out to Ariel L L Boon.

[Unknown]

A real boon. That's what it is.

[Dave]

Right. A real boot. Okay. I was like, you know how that is with these usernames. I can't anyway. Shout out to a real boon. And who talked about Zubots of Boston? I've been talking about Zoo Watch to Boston. But what if it's Nurkic to Boston because he wants to duck the tax. Right. They've got that Anthony Simons contract. I think it's like 23 million that they can move. That's expiring. This is still an expiring. So it fits in with, you know, with what they're trying to do as far as clearing books.

[Unknown]

He's been solid. Double, double machine. Yeah. Yeah, I like that idea.

[Andrew]

I'm not a believer at all in Nerc as a playoff center, though.

[Unknown]

Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[Andrew]

Because that's what you'd want him for, right?

[Dave]

I mean, but he, I think.

[Unknown]

Do you have backup? Right. Do you have to have him as your, your, your playoff center? I think Nehemiah has been playing well for them.

[Andrew]

Yeah, but is he a playoff center too? Is a question.

[Dave]

Like, I think that.

[Unknown]

Is he a regular season starter? I mean, center, like, he's, he's proven that. I think. In my opinion, I think Nehemiah S.K. has proven that he's become a regular season center. I think at the start of the year, most people wouldn't have put him in that category. A lot of folks still looked at him like a G league player. So like I, I think he's proven himself that way. It's the biggest thing is you don't need him to be a focal point. You just really need him to not mess up. Know where you're supposed to be on help. Know when you're supposed to rotate. Be able to set a good screen and then not have a drop off when he gets off the floor. And that's what you know Nurkic would come in and do.

[Xena]

But I wonder if they could go for Miles Turner with the bucks tearing everything down or Bobby Portis. I think either of those guys would kind of be interesting.

[Andrew]

I'd like either one of those guys I like.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

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[Dave]

Turner is going to be interesting to see what, what happens with him.

[Xena]

Yeah. He could get Jeremy granted in the sense that like his contract is so big that it would be tough to move.

[Andrew]

It's only 25 mil.

[Xena]

Yeah but it's long right? Is it four years?

[Andrew]

Yeah but like as I mean 25 million is, is like you can, you.

[Dave]

Can get around that six man money.

[Andrew]

It's the new 15, you know.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So I think it's.

[Unknown]

That's a statement.

[Andrew]

I think it's okay.

[Unknown]

25 is the new 15.

[Dave]

I mean have you, have you looked at the inflation numbers, Zena.

[Unknown]

No, of course.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Xena]

I'd love to.

[Dave]

Barely surviving at 25 a year.

[Unknown]

I know.

[Andrew]

That's exactly right.

[Unknown]

That's crazy.

[Xena]

Houston, no trade.

[Unknown]

No trade.

[Andrew]

Yeah. That feels like that's where they're headed. They, they're, they're in a great spot right now. They've got a ton of guys that they need to develop.

[Xena]

Not according to Dave Dufour.

[Dave]

Yeah, I mean, great spot. I just don't think that they're gonna compete for a title this year. That, that's the difference. I, I don't think that they're a bad team. I think they're, they're in a really good place.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they're in a good spot. I, I hate how we do this. Like, oh, my gosh. Can you believe what Phoenix is doing? This is so cool. Phoenix Suns all the way, baby. And it's like, oh, Houston sucks. It's like, what are we talking about saying?

[Dave]

That they suck? But it is. They're in different tiers. I, like, if I'm, if I'm comparing the Rockets to teams, I'm not comparing them to the Suns. I'm comparing them to Oklahoma City, and I'm comparing them to Denver. I'm not.

[Andrew]

Yeah. You know, playoff series with this team, though, Dave, they haven't won a playoff series yet. Like, they need to go do that.

[Dave]

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I, I, I think that they're, they're in a really good spot. I, I don't think they need a trade. They need a point guard some. You know what I mean?

[Andrew]

Like, they, Wait, let's.

[Dave]

So maybe they can pick somebody up.

[Unknown]

Dave, let's pose the question that we had the other night to Andrew. Andrew, if you're looking at Houston.

[Dave]

What.

[Unknown]

Would you say is their thing that they are exceptional at?

[Andrew]

Offensive.

[Unknown]

Beyond being. Okay, offensive rebound. I was gonna say beyond being athletic, which I think offensive rebound also, like, feeds into it.

[Xena]

But, yeah, for sure.

[Unknown]

If okc. Well, not, that's not a good example. Not okc, but let's say Denver is getting on the boards. What is the counter for Houston against that?

[Andrew]

Yeah, I, I think that they have got to really. They have to figure out who they are, which is, which is the spot that they're in. And I think that should be, I think that should be acceptable for them. And I know that, like, trading for KD kind of complicates that to a degree, but you look at the guys who are going to be actually carrying this team and this franchise for years to come, you have Aman Thompson, 23, Sengun 23. Jabari Smith, 22. Reed Shepherd, 22. Yeah, I mean, like, these. Those are the guys that, if you are running the Houston Rockets, you're saying, like, we are hoping that that is our core that we're building around. And if you hit the fast forward button, like, too much on these guys, which I think, like, getting Kevin really does hit the fast forward button for you a little bit. But if you can help bring those guys along. And in two years, they are like this. They're at the top of the west and they're competing for titles, competing for Western Conference finals. Like, I think that's great for them. I think they. They need to go learn and figure it out. And like, sometimes you don't know until you're in a playoff battle, like, who you are and like, what guys are made of. And like, there's just a lot. There's a lot to learn for this franchise. And I think it's. I think it's okay for them to take these steps to get there.

[Dave]

KD increases their margin for error. You know, one of their biggest problems is down the stretch of games, Right. And this is a problem of youth, typically. I would also say it's some lack of offensive organization. But yeah, KD gives you a guy to throw the ball to, and now you've got another guy that, that you can. You know, it's not just Shingoon.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they need more shooting. Absolutely.

[Dave]

Big time. Yeah, they need more shots. Right. Like, they need to shoot more threes. They have. I mean, they. They are good at making them when they take them, but they don't take enough of them.

[Xena]

Starting Reed shepherd would solve that problem, man.

[Dave]

Well, but the problem there is though, if. If Adams comes back and he's healthy, are you better playing big? Are you better playing with Reed? And I think that that's. That's where the. This is where. Back to Xena's point, their identity, they're gonna have to figure it out. And I think that, you know, Reed is. This, you know, fastball off the bench isn't bad either.

[Xena]

No, it isn't. No. But it's just like he clearly provided.

[Dave]

What if level of what if it's not Stephen Adams that needs to come out? And if it's a men. Because Reed's shooting might be more valuable given, you know, like, you've got these huge offensive rebounders. They've got some options. That's the thing.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they have options. I do. I do think, though, that if you're taking Amen out of the lineup. We're. We've taken the development in the wrong direction. Like, that's. That's my opinion. Like, we. We need to figure it out with him on the court.

[Dave]

Right.

[Andrew]

And if it doesn't go well, that's okay. We need to figure out why.

[Xena]

Yeah, I think that's coaching, too. Like, you got to find a way for those guys to work offensively.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Xena]

You know, that's. That's part of it.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Pelicans.

[Xena]

I'm gonna say, going to make a stupid trade because that's what they've been doing.

[Andrew]

They've been really good at that. They've been really, really good at that.

[Xena]

Really consistent.

[Dave]

You know, Joe D. Is working the phones right now.

[Andrew]

Working both phones.

[Xena]

Trey Murphy for five seconds, you know something crazy.

[Dave]

Like, I don't think it be that bad. I don't think it'd be that bad.

[Andrew]

Jeremiah Fears into whatever trade exception you can find.

[Xena]

Oh, that would be nuts.

[Dave]

I'm gonna trade him for Lou Dort.

[Andrew]

Yeah. It's like, I like. I like the fire that that guy has.

[Dave]

I like it.

[Andrew]

Ludwort was a menace last night. I was just re watching that. He had this jump ball against Eve Mece last night, and he. He held down Misi's arm during the jump ball, and they didn't see it. And Lou on the jump.

[Dave]

That's his. That's the secret to his.

[Andrew]

Like, he's such a menace. I love it.

[Unknown]

Add it to the tape. Add it to the table.

[Andrew]

Funny. It's so funny. But the Pelicans do have players that teams want. It's funny. For a team that has the worst record in the Western Conference, you look at a lot of the guys that they have, you're like, you know what?

[Unknown]

Individually, they can add. Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Dre Murphy, Herb Jones, Sadiq Bay is like a guy that could help a team. Right now, Eve's me.

[Xena]

See, I'm telling you right now, that's a guy that. That's going to get traded before the deadline.

[Andrew]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, he should. And I don't know how much he can help you in the playoffs, but he's like a really interesting, like, developmental piece for a team, so. Yeah, yeah. It seems like they'll do something dumb. Okay. The Lakers. The Lakers you have to go for. You have LeBron James on your team, right? Anybody disagree with that?

[Xena]

Well, I don't think so.

[Dave]

I don't disagree that they have LeBron on the team. Yeah, right.

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Dave]

They definitely have LeBron. Will they? Here's my question. Is LeBron still going to be on the team after the deadline? Oh, because like LeBron is one of the pieces that. What do they have to trade?

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Xena]

Austin Reed.

[Unknown]

That's what I'm trying.

[Andrew]

As soon as you said going for.

[Unknown]

It, I was like, but with what?

[Dave]

And I don't think they're going to trade LeBron, but I just am like, where are they coming up with the assets to trade, to make and a trade that makes a big enough difference.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Also I'm on the opposite end of this. I think they're not making a trade. Yeah, I, I just don't see with what.

[Dave]

So here's the. There's a big LeBron question here because this is the last year of his deal. You have to imagine he's not going to come back next season to the Lakers. I don't. Does that make sense?

[Andrew]

It's certainly possible that he is not.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Uniform. It's certainly possible.

[Xena]

But then, you know the other. If he's not retire or go play for the Cavaliers, he's not going to retire.

[Dave]

He's going to go play some. I mean, yes, I was thinking he's. Maybe he's going to go to Cleveland next year, but I do think that we'll know more about the Lakers and LeBron relationship after the deadline, Right? Yeah, but if you're, if you're The Lakers and LeBron, don't. Shouldn't you at least be having a conversation about thinking about a trade right now if he's not going to be there next year?

[Xena]

Well, I will say he has a no trade clause. So he gets.

[Dave]

Right, he gets to choose LeBron James. He gets to choose.

[Xena]

Yeah, but then that adds the element of like if they're going for it, they can't use that salary to go out and do whatever they need to.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You know what I mean?

[Dave]

Right.

[Xena]

I, I to, to that point, I also wonder if they wait and don't make a trade because they will have more picks available to them in the summer. I think they get three picks available to them this summer compared to now where they only have one.

[Dave]

Yeah. Now they're trying to flip their pick for more future firsts. Right?

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Dave]

2031.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Good luck.

[Xena]

I would say no trade. I just don't see a, a version of them going for it, you know?

[Dave]

Yeah. So same way.

[Andrew]

Okay. So going for it to me is like, let's turn Gabe Vincent, Rui Hachimura, Jared Vanderbilt and other Guys like that.

[Dave]

Into different role players, like, or like Miles Turner.

[Andrew]

It's like something that Rob Pelinka, you can criticize or love the things that he's done through the years. One thing that he's consistently done, though, is make trades at the deadline with LeBron on the team to change out the role players. And so, like, that's kind of where I'm at. Just like, looking back at the history of what Polinka has done for this team is like, he's always finding ways to tinker with the roster to push it, you know, closer toward competitiveness. And so I wonder if he. I don't even know if that is even possible at this time with the guys that he has, but I do think they're going to try. Is really why I put them at going for it.

[Dave]

We haven't heard anything about Daniel Gafford in a while. Yeah, I know that. That was. That was kind of a thing. I mean, it's great.

[Andrew]

Yeah, great. They have also wonder if they do.

[Xena]

Future trades, you know, like, if you can throw.

[Dave]

Right.

[Xena]

Trades category.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

What if they trade for Jaren Jackson? I mean, it's going to start with Austin Reeves.

[Xena]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Dave]

I mean, if. If Memphis decides they're pulling the plug on this whole thing and just going to reboot.

[Andrew]

What is Jared Jackson, a Jaren Jackson, Luca LeBron team. How far does that go?

[Xena]

I could see them making the conference finals, probably.

[Dave]

I mean, it's good enough team.

[Xena]

Okay. Jaren is a big upgrade from DeAndre Hayden.

[Andrew]

I mean, you know, we can fill in the blank of 163 players on that one. Yeah. I don't know. We can put them at no trade. I'm okay with that. I just. I just think that they're always up to stuff.

[Dave]

They. They do make a lot of trades.

[Xena]

Yeah. Maybe we could say going to make a stupid trade. No, they kind of fit.

[Dave]

They haven't really made a bad trade in a while. Like, I can't think of a bad.

[Andrew]

They make pretty good.

[Unknown]

I like what Andrew said. We got to give credit where credit's due. Rob Polinka has made.

[Dave]

Yeah. Russ was the only bad trade. I don't think LeBron's got that much power anymore, so.

[Andrew]

Totally.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You look back at, like, some of the bad deals that have been made, and Polinka has to sign off on these to a degree, too. But a lot of it's been, like, driven by players.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Within the team. Which is a struggle for. For the Lakers, Chicago.

[Xena]

Oh, just throw them in there. You know where you're going to throw.

[Andrew]

I feel like they're going to do something real soup with Kobe White. Right. Or it's.

[Dave]

They are looking to build around their core of Josh Giddy and Booz.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Kobe White is a look depending on what the warriors do. I think the warriors should call about Kobe White. Yeah, obviously. Minnesota call about Kobe White. Orlando maybe even call about Kobe. Everybody should call about Kobe White. Yeah, I agree.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I agree. Orlando would be a great spot for him. They just needs. They need somebody else that can shoot the rock.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. That would be interesting. Timberwolves, I feel like going for it. Is that. Is that.

[Dave]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unknown]

I'm with that.

[Andrew]

I think they need a point guard. They're in the Kobe White sweepstakes.

[Dave]

Maybe they.

[Xena]

Maybe they get themselves involved in Giannis. Man.

[Andrew]

It's.

[Dave]

That would be.

[Andrew]

Isn't it really hard for them to trade for Giannis?

[Xena]

It's very. Because they're second apron team or they're. They're somewhere along the lines of that and it would be tough.

[Dave]

But picks too are an issue and picks are.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's. It's tricky. Especially with like, like Nas Reed has had a decent season. He hasn't been like as. As good. Like he's not like six man. Nas.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And Jaden's been up and down. I feel like Jaden's been mostly good, but he's been up and down. Yeah.

[Unknown]

14 over the apron. That's. Yeah, that's bad.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah. Spot cap wise. Okay. The Blazers. Where we put the Blazers here? Probably future trades.

[Dave]

Yep.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Dave]

I think so.

[Andrew]

That makes sense.

[Dave]

They've. They've done nothing but make smart moves. Good draft picks the last few years.

[Unknown]

Been patient.

[Dave]

Yep. No reason to think that they're gonna do anything crazy. Yeah. Right. Yeah, they're. They're. They're oddly like. They're a little bit boring in that way, but it's why they've. They've been able to come up with so many assets. You know, I. I think that they're. They're doing a really good job.

[Xena]

Yeah, I agree.

[Andrew]

Nuggets no trade.

[Xena]

I actually think they will make a trade, but it's future trade just to get out of the tax.

[Dave]

They're ducking attacks. I think Zeke Naji might be. Might be on the way out.

[Andrew]

Okay.

[Dave]

He's been. He's shown enough that if I was another team and could get him for. For cheap, I think he's worth it.

[Xena]

Yeah, I agree. You know, but yeah, I think. I think they'll duck the tax, and they'll try to find a way to, you know, clear up some space for Peyton Watson so they can sign.

[Unknown]

But that makes sense.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Zeke's the problem with Zeke. What does he have? He's got three years left.

[Xena]

Three years. $8 million each year.

[Andrew]

Yeah. He's got a player option. Yeah.

[Dave]

But it's not much money.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

It's not there.

[Dave]

And I think he's a rotation guy.

[Andrew]

Well, the. The Nuggets don't when they're healthy.

[Dave]

Okay. He's not a rotation guy on the Nuggets. The Nuggets have Nicola Jokic, though. That eats up 38 minutes, etc. And you know what I mean? Like. Yeah, I. I would think there's not really much of a spot for him.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I just would not want to have a player that I'm not sure as a top 9, 10 rotation player on my team that makes 8, 7, or 8 million. You know, that's just me. You know what? That's just the way I roll, so. All right. Okay. Thunder. I don't think they're making a trade. Maybe they'll trade Ooze, but I don't think. I also don't think they have to trade us, either.

[Dave]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Xena]

I don't think they're gonna make.

[Dave]

No, Their trades are coming this summer. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. There'll be some roster movement at some point with the Thunder. I don't think it's at the deadline. It would be surprised.

[Dave]

This is Dort's last run. Right.

[Andrew]

Don't put those words. Don't put those words in my mouth. How dare you, Dave.

[Unknown]

That's funny.

[Andrew]

I tried.

[Dave]

I tried, I tried.

[Andrew]

Don't you dare I do that. Memphis trade to Tank.

[Unknown]

Yeah, trade to Tank.

[Andrew]

They need to just start on over.

[Unknown]

Clear the board, clear the air, and just start over.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Who wants Ja?

[Xena]

Nobody. Nobody wants Joe.

[Dave]

That's sad.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Minnesota doesn't want to. I mean, I don't think they can do it. They can't do it. But point.

[Xena]

I wonder if, like, Brooklyn wants Jaw.

[Andrew]

No, no, no.

[Unknown]

He's signing yourself back up. Like you're. If you're trying to tank, like.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Xena]

I just think Barclays center, you need some butts and seats, you know?

[Andrew]

Yeah. They just grabbed Andrew's collar. Like Lou Torn last night to features. Yeah. I mean, does. Does Job put butts in seats? That would be my question. Oh, my gosh. The Nets got John Morant.

[Unknown]

Let's go.

[Andrew]

We now have a team. Like, I don't listen.

[Xena]

He he does more than Danny Wolf or Nolan Tre or.

[Andrew]

You know, I, I, by the way.

[Xena]

I like what the Nets are building, but it's just. You need some.

[Andrew]

I know, I know. I, I agree. I just, We've just seen them go down a path similar to that in the past.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

That has not worked for them. You, I, I think if you're the Nets, you trade to Tank and you just hope that you get a top three pick.

[Dave]

Right.

[Andrew]

And if you can get a top three pick, then you have a star, you know, for your team and you don't have to trade for John Morant to do that. I think that's the hope.

[Dave]

Dallas John's definitely getting traded, right?

[Andrew]

I don't know.

[Dave]

Or is it going to kick down to the summer?

[Xena]

I think it'll get kicked down. I just don't see where he, he ends up getting traded.

[Andrew]

Yeah, there's not a, like, super logical landing spot for him. The Dallas Mavericks is next on this very random list of teams.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Xena]

I think trades to Tank also, because this is the only time that they have their, their pick available to them after this. The picks are all cooked. They, they don't really have a chance to tank, so they need to tank this year. Yeah.

[Dave]

Well. But also, like, he's not gonna play for them again anyway. Right.

[Xena]

Kyrie won't come back. Right. But it's more about the other guys. So, like Daniel Gafford, Naji Marshall, you.

[Dave]

Know, I, I mean, I think that they're gonna wind up trading AD Yeah. There's no incentive. I mean, there, there's no reason for the Dallas Mavericks to give him an extension. There's not one. Yeah. Not a single reason.

[Andrew]

No.

[Dave]

And I, I just, I feel like they gotta move him now because, you know, this is how the game works. And Rich Paul's been pushing the button because, a, they want to get AD One more big extension, and the only way that happens is if he's moved right now. Like, you can't wait. So I, I think that he gets moved and probably not for very much.

[Andrew]

No, not for much.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

But they have, they have guys that. And we don't really know what the mindset of this front office is, but I would trade. Look at trading PJ Washington to, like, a contender. I would look to see if anybody has any interest in Clay Thompson. I would. Naji Marshall, I think you could get a, like a, a decent first.

[Xena]

I agree.

[Andrew]

For him. He's good. Yeah, he's good. Like, if the Cavaliers wound up with Naji Marshall, like, that would help them a lot.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

So I do think that, like, they've got some guys I think that you kind of roll with, obviously Cooper Flag, but like Max Christie. I wouldn't trade Derek Lively. I wouldn't, you know, consider. And then pretty much everybody else would.

[Dave]

Be like, yeah, I would try to move Kyrie this summer for sure.

[Unknown]

Brandon Williams has made a little noise.

[Xena]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew]

Where he could.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Xena]

Tear it down, man. Tear it down. I agree. Trade to Tank Tricks.

[Andrew]

Tank Spurs. I don't think they're doing anything.

[Dave]

Nothing.

[Xena]

Yeah, I would be surprised. Although you could argue going for it. They should, you know. But what is going for it for that team?

[Unknown]

Yeah, I, I don't know.

[Dave]

They just need Wemby to get back to normal.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they. Yeah, they just need health is what they need.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And they need. They need their young guards to bounce back as well who have been struggling as of late.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Phoenix.

[Dave]

I don't think they're going to do anything.

[Xena]

They are a little bit over the tax. So they're going to do a future trade.

[Unknown]

Future trade.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Dave]

It's. It's book bookkeeping.

[Xena]

Bookkeeping.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah. Clippers.

[Dave]

Clippers might make. Clippers could be an ad team.

[Xena]

I could see going for it.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they kind of have to. Right. Like, what else are. What else are you doing? You don't have your draft picks for this year or next year.

[Dave]

Yep.

[Andrew]

So, like what. What else are you doing if you're.

[Xena]

They also have expiring contracts and.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Xena]

Salary that they can move.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Yeah. I think they have to go for it. I don't know what that looks like. I don't know who they would try to acquire. But if you're the Clippers, you need. They need to be active because they, like you said, they have the expiring contracts. They've been really good as of late. They need to figure out ways to. To go for it this year. Xena Golden State warriors where are we?

[Unknown]

You know how we. You know how we started this exercise and the Kings were already locked into going to make a stupid trade.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I've been this entire time thinking maybe the warriors should be locked into the one category we haven't touched yet. Should make a trade but won't. Oh, I. I just feel like the Jimmy Butler situation obviously makes us a little bit different. Right. This conversation is tough for them, no question. But I, I feel like they should make a trade and they end up. Well, they won't until the summer and we'll see what happens then. But yeah, for the deadline, for sure. I don't think they'll make a trade. I just can't. I. I can't see it.

[Xena]

The only way they would, I think, is if Giannis wants to. He's like, I want.

[Unknown]

I think so, too.

[Xena]

And that's the only way.

[Unknown]

I think so, too. The only. The thing is, though, like, when they should make a trade is, like, we all see Steph, like, put in, putting in work. He looks sad after a lot of games, like, when they're. Obviously when they're not winning, it's tough, it's a burden. And if you're looking at that, if you're his front office, like, you should be desperately trying to make a trade, but now you don't have Jimmy. Jonathan Kaminga now is of importance to you. That means you need to trade for someone to immediately provide you some value, the same value that you would expect out of Jonathan. And he, right now is hurt with the bone bruise, so you're not getting the consistency out. I mean, I don't know. I. I feel like they're teetering between the two of their. They could make a stupid trade out of the desperation, or they should make a trade, but won't.

[Dave]

Man, the Jimmy Butler trade was kind of a desperation trade.

[Unknown]

It was.

[Dave]

I mean, when was the last trade this front office made that didn't feel like a desperation trade?

[Andrew]

Good question.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Which is also. Okay.

[Dave]

Sure.

[Andrew]

I think that. I think we need to let it be okay. And I think I've said this on multiple platforms by now, but, like, it's okay that the warriors had one of the most epic runs in the history of the NBA, and then they just want to ride it out with Steph.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

And if they want to even look desperate to try to get him help also. Okay.

[Dave]

Yep. Great.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Well, I've. I said this about Giannis. With the Bucks, you beg, you plead, you do everything you can.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

You trade all the future assets. I mean, you do. Look at what Cleveland did when LeBron came back and they traded away everything to get a shot at a title. Right. And you just say it's gonna suck when he's gone, but while he's here, we'll just make it work.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

And Steph is playing like a top seven player in the NBA still.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Yeah. So, yeah.

[Xena]

By the way, I also think it's easier to dig out of that hole of being desperate and going for it now than it was maybe before, where you. You had no ability to trade guys or turn one pick into four picks. Like there's just, there's a world in which you can kind of stave off doom a little bit easier than some other teams if you're just smart about it.

[Andrew]

So. Yeah, I think that's true.

[Xena]

Detroit, going for it.

[Andrew]

Let's go for it.

[Xena]

Going for it.

[Dave]

I thought you're gonna do it.

[Xena]

I, I don't know if they will, but I think they need to.

[Andrew]

I'm with you.

[Xena]

I, like, this is, this is.

[Unknown]

It's so funny how the opposite of going for it for me continues to be no trade.

[Dave]

Right.

[Unknown]

I'm, I look at that roster, I'm.

[Xena]

Like, I don't know.

[Unknown]

I mean, I see what you're saying with like, I'm thinking what ivy would be in the package. Yeah, I get it.

[Xena]

Like, and I'm not saying, like, go for Giannis, you know, I'm not saying go and make that kind of, you know, and I don't, I don't think that's possible. But like, we talked about it with Hunter yesterday, I think Trey Murphy would be perfect for that team and he fits the timeline, he fits the age, he has a good contract. All those things apply. I don't think it would be that big of a problem for them or it would hurt their bottom line future wise to go out and trade. I don't know, three firsts for, for Trey Murphy. I just, I feel like that's the perfect type of player. Mpj, you could convince me, like, okay, back injuries, you know, he has, he's not like the most perfect player for their system. But Trey, that's a guy that they should go for.

[Dave]

They're going to be good for a while. So, like the, the picks won't really matter so much for them. Yeah. So I'm, I'm kind of with you if you can do something that's based round picks. I just don't think they can lose any of their core pieces. Like none of their rotation guys. They. And they need shooting. Right. So, like, they need whoever comes in that needs to be able to plug into the lineup, be a plus shooter, plus defender. Trey Murphy would be amazing if you get Trey Murphy, make the trade. Yeah, if you, if it's mpj, please don't make the trade. Just keep that powder dry. Yeah, I agree.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Yeah, I think that's fair.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I, Yeah, I think that makes sense. I mean, they have four first round picks that they could trade now and Tobias Harris has a big expiring contract. And then if you wanted to include Asar Jaden or Ron Holland, like They've got. They've got the makings of a lot of different kinds of deals.

[Xena]

Absolutely.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

There.

[Andrew]

Yeah. From the.

[Dave]

From the YouTube chat, Matt Herndy said Ben Benedict Matherin as a team for. For Detroit. That's kind of interesting.

[Unknown]

That is interesting, huh?

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Big guard.

[Xena]

Seems like a guy who will get traded. By the way, I think like pelicans Yves me see Ben Matherin trade.

[Dave]

I hope he doesn't go to the pals.

[Andrew]

And Dave, that name is pronounced Matt H earnedy. Okay. All right.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Andrew]

Next team. The.

[Dave]

I actually stopped to read that one.

[Xena]

Before I read it.

[Dave]

Listen, man, these handles, you know, put some spaces in there, guys.

[Andrew]

Put some spaces in there. You guys. Crazy. Cleveland Cavaliers are in a weird spot. Where should we put them?

[Xena]

I don't think they have the capability to make a trade.

[Andrew]

Yeah, they kind of. If they feel like a team that needs a shake up of some kind. But show some respect to Matt. I love that. Shout out to the chat. The chat is. The chat's popping today. Yeah, I. I kind of agree that they may just stand pat, but I do like the idea of getting like a Naji Marshall or somebody like that.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I mean, to them.

[Dave]

Yes.

[Xena]

It's just tough because they're second apron.

[Andrew]

So I know the second apron, like, that's the kind of team that the second. Second apron is killing.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Right now.

[Dave]

Yep.

[Andrew]

Boston.

[Xena]

Go for it.

[Andrew]

Go for it, baby. Yeah, I agree. The Boston Celtics should go for it.

[Unknown]

Well, with that said, though, thinking about the next one Philly feel like, do we. Do we automatically put Philly in the. Going for it because of Joelle and Bead's health. But when we look at all the young assets that they have too, with Maxi and BJ Edgecombe and like, what are. Where do we feel like they fall?

[Xena]

They might make a small trade.

[Dave]

I think they could make a small trade. They look, they could duck the tax.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Jared McCain is it. Right. Like, we're gonna celebrate them ducking the tax. But Jared McCain to me is an interesting player that they could maybe dangle. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Do you know you're cracking me up with your. Like, he's an interesting player. He's like, Dave is like, questioning whether he is or not.

[Dave]

I. Well, no, because I think he's better than what we've seen this year. Right. Like, sure, he's coming back.

[Andrew]

He hopes that Philly fans hope so. Right.

[Dave]

But I think if I was another team, I mean, maybe he's a guy that I can. I can get for a decent price without it being a buy low. Does that make sense? Yeah, because he is young, he is talented, and. And that could be a piece that's a little bit redundant.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Like Jared McCain might be redundant for the Sixers. Of course, we. I say that at the same time. I'm always saying you never have enough guards and ball handlers in the NBA.

[Andrew]

Right.

[Dave]

But I, I wonder if. If some team might not try to pry him away. But the only piece they really need is a four. And I don't even know that they do because some of their best lineups are Paul George at the fourth. Kelly Oubre has been awesome at the floor. And, and so, yeah, I think this could be just another bookkeeping sort of trade situation.

[Andrew]

Some kind of future trade.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

If it's me, I'm like, man, Embiid and Paul George are healthy right now. I'm on the phone, baby. I'm like, listen.

[Unknown]

That's what I like.

[Andrew]

These guys. Who wants.

[Unknown]

I don't know. But wait, Andrew, are you saying that you're going for it with those two playing well?

[Andrew]

No, I'm saying I'm trading those guys.

[Dave]

He's trying to.

[Unknown]

Oh, you're trying to get. Oh, I thought you're trying to, like, win it with that.

[Xena]

Good luck.

[Unknown]

I think.

[Dave]

I think PG could get moved, that there's a chance.

[Andrew]

Let's go. Let's do it. I. I'm, I'm serious. If I, If, If I were suddenly given access to just trade everybody I could on the Philadelphia 76ers, I would. This is your chance, Philly. You're about to have the football pulled out from you again, and you don't even realize it right now. Right now, you're all happy. Oh, Embiid's finally healthy. Do you trust Joel Embiid and Paul George to be healthy for four playoff rounds?

[Xena]

All you need is one true.

[Unknown]

I don't know.

[Dave]

I don't know if that's true.

[Andrew]

That works.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I would be making calls because the future of this team is Maxi and Edgecomb. And if you could do something to help set up the future of your team and maybe get Joel Embiid to a team that is ready to compete right away, and maybe you don't get a lot for him. I think that's okay. I think that's.

[Xena]

I don't know who or what the.

[Dave]

Warriors would the warriors trade for Joel Embiid?

[Xena]

They might trade for Paul George. I could see that.

[Unknown]

I could see them trading for Paul George.

[Dave]

Sure. Got that Jimmy Butler contract.

[Andrew]

Jimmy Butler's dead. Contract to the Sixers would be hilarious. Oh, my gosh. That is content. Oh, no, man. I just got excited. Yeah.

[Dave]

I don't know. I'm going to say this. I don't think. I don't think it's traded.

[Andrew]

I don't think. I don't think it happens either. I'm just saying, if it were me, that's what I would want to happen. Because that football is going to be pulled again. You're going to wind up on your butt. All right. That's happening. Yeah. Warriors having another old injury prone guy. Sure. Maybe we should move the warriors right here. I don't know. Gonna make a stupid trade. I don't know.

[Dave]

I feel like somebody's gonna trade for Al Horford. By the way, what about Horford? Goes back to play pretty well.

[Xena]

He would actually be a great Raptors guy, actually.

[Dave]

How would he do in Boston, you guys think? Could you see the fit?

[Xena]

Well, you know, they'd have to massage the. Anyways. Hornets.

[Andrew]

Charlotte Hornets.

[Xena]

Future trade.

[Dave]

Future trade.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

These guys are rolling right now.

[Xena]

Maybe gets traded.

[Dave]

I think. I think Colin Sexton gets moved. I think Colin Sexton is going to be Minnesota's back. If they can't get Kobe White or someone like that and he works for them, that's fine. I think he works for them from a cultural perspective, too.

[Andrew]

Yeah, he's. Yeah, He. He run through a wall. He competes. Yeah. Trade M. Bridges. Trade Grant Williams, Josh Green. Any of those guys. Sure.

[Xena]

Yep.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I probably should have a poster on my wall from that time that he. He went three on five against, you know, when he was at Alabama. That's one of the coolest things I've ever seen a basketball player do. Was Colin Sexton going 3 on 5 in college. It was amazing.

[Unknown]

I'll have to look that up. I don't think I remember that.

[Xena]

I love the smack in the hardwood thing. That's one of my favorite. Colin Sex and highlights.

[Dave]

Yeah. Because it's usually like Steve Wojahowski doing that. Yeah. Right. It's not some guy with a nickname. That's the Young Bull.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Which is one of the best nicknames ever.

[Andrew]

That's a good one.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

Zards. They. They already made their big trade.

[Dave]

Yeah. Maybe.

[Xena]

I think trade to tank. They still have the Middleton contract that they can move.

[Dave]

They might.

[Xena]

They might be like a third team type of thing if someone wants to make a big trade.

[Andrew]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dave]

It's hard to tank, though. What do they won 12 games yeah, yeah, that's true.

[Xena]

It's maybe future trade then, but you can't.

[Dave]

You can't give any back. I don't think.

[Andrew]

Orlando.

[Xena]

See, I don't think Orlando's gonna make.

[Dave]

Matt Herndy knows there was a point in the game where Colin Sexton turns, he stares at the guy.

[Xena]

Oh, I know that highlight. It was great. Yes.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I need to go look this up.

[Dave]

Yeah, he's. He's incredible. Colin Sexton's the legend to me.

[Xena]

Yeah, he.

[Andrew]

He'd be awesome if he could get to a good team where he is like their sixth or seventh man.

[Dave]

Yeah, see, he's a perfect six man because listen, he's not. Part of it is he's so skinny. He's never going to be like a great defender, but he. He works so hard that he's not a bad one.

[Andrew]

He does try.

[Dave]

And then he's a 43 point shooter who can get to the hoop.

[Unknown]

Are we still on Colin Sexton right now?

[Dave]

I love Colin Sexton.

[Andrew]

I agree.

[Xena]

He's underrated.

[Andrew]

Are we still on Colin Sexton right now?

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Xena]

Cleveland, by the way.

[Andrew]

Yeah, Cleveland.

[Dave]

Orlando would, you know, they. They should trade Paolo, but they're not.

[Xena]

Going to, I don't think. I think they are gonna struggle to make a trade. Maybe Jonathan Isaac some, but I. I doubt it. I don't think they're gonna make.

[Dave]

I think Goga could. Could get moved. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Xena]

Maybe Goba. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Yeah. So is that a future trade?

[Xena]

I would say I could say that. Yeah.

[Andrew]

Okay. Miami Heat.

[Unknown]

They're.

[Andrew]

They're endlessly confusing team to me.

[Xena]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

The direction they're going, like, I. I don't really know what direction I would say.

[Dave]

I think should make a trade.

[Unknown]

Should make a trade, but won't. That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Xena]

Yeah, I agree.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Dave]

Maybe those two teams might.

[Xena]

Those two teams might trade together.

[Andrew]

Yeah, right. Yeah. Could make another trade. That'd be. That would be wild.

[Dave]

By the way, if you guys are listening, join our Discord. We put the link in the show description. Apparently our. Our good friend on the break pod put the Sexton 3 on 5 clip in our Discord.

[Andrew]

Let's go. Let's.

[Dave]

We're sharing film in there. We're gonna do film stu. No, we're not.

[Unknown]

I'm watching this. And you are absolutely right. It's ridiculous.

[Dave]

It's amazing.

[Unknown]

It's actually stupid. Yeah, this is wild.

[Andrew]

Okay, last two teams, Atlanta and Indiana. Where do we think Atlanta goes from here?

[Dave]

Well, any Any trade they make is a future trade. Unless it's a Giannis trade. Yeah, that's. And a Yanis trade, even. I mean, like, are we too late? Let's see. Atlanta, they're the ten seed. No. Okay, so they're not too late. If they trade for Giannis, they got a good a shot as anybody of coming out of the East. It's so silly. That's so silly.

[Xena]

Such a silly league.

[Dave]

It is a silly thing to say.

[Andrew]

Well, and. And they're in a good spot with Chris Staffs and CJ McCollum both being on these, like, giant expiring contracts. You know, you could even be like, hey, Milwaukee, we have, like, 6 million bucks or whatever it is. Like, you want to throw something else in, honestly.

[Dave]

And. And then with the. With. Give them back that swap. The pick swap and the New Orleans pick and maybe another first.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

And all of a sudden, that's a really. That's a really good. Pretty good deal for Milwaukee to reset the books.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it's not bad.

[Unknown]

It's.

[Andrew]

It's really not a bad way to go, so.

[Xena]

And that's what I gotta go, but see you guys later. The Pacers are going to tank, by the way, actually. They'll maybe do a future trade as well.

[Dave]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. I think with the Pacers, we gotta watch Matherin. I think. I mean, Matherin feels like he's gonna.

[Andrew]

Get moved just because you don't think that they want to give him a deal.

[Dave]

Exactly, exactly. This is all. I mean, that's the driving factor, I think, in a lot of these trades. Yeah, it's all about that extension that.

[Unknown]

You know, and the caps and. Exactly.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

And the thing is, he's always gonna have a market. You shoot over 40 from three. Like.

[Dave]

Yeah, he's a big guard who can play. They just have. They happen to have a lot of those guys, you know, when Alan Burton comes back next year, and then they're going to have a top draft pick.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Oh, I don't hate this. From. From dub protocol on YouTube. Can the Wizards get Matherin? Now? That is kind of interesting.

[Unknown]

Oh, also, correction. Matherin's no longer a 40 shooter. He's at 37. But still, that's pretty solid.

[Dave]

Yeah. You round up on that?

[Unknown]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Whiz. No, no. That's how I live my college career. Just joking. 35 and a half percent, Matheran.

[Dave]

That's interesting. I mean, you put a big guard next to Trey when you come back. The issue is you got Trey Johnson.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I Wouldn't want to do it.

[Dave]

He.

[Andrew]

He just takes the thing with Matheran. It's like, really, what is he. Is he a starter? He's not been a starter for the Pacers. He's had kind of a disappointing year this year with all the injuries that he's had, and then is, like, not nearly as productive as he was even last year. And that could just be that they don't have, like, a suitable point card at this point to help him. But it's just been. It's been a weird year. This was kind of like his prove it year. And it's. It's really gone very poorly for. For Matheran. So. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know who the question is. Like, if you trade him, it's like, who wants to. Who wants to pay? Ben Mather's next deal is like, the big question and, like, what. What is the demand? Because we know that, like, with these trades, like, conversations are being had in the background of, like, great, you want to trade for Ben Matheran. He wants a four year, $125 million deal. Like, do you want to pay him that? It's like, right. I don't know that it's that high, but I'm just. I think that you could have conversations like this, like, yeah, he scores 17 points a game. He shoots it well on high, like, decently high volume. And like, yeah, I think. I mean, he's taking six threes.

[Dave]

He feels like a future raptor. I wish S. Was here for this. But he feels. And it's not just because, you know, he's not from America and they like to collect everybody. I. I do think he feels like. He feels like one of those players that it's. They have all these. These guys that are sort of tweeners that don't have a clean fit everywhere. But I don't hate them. On the Wizards. The only issue being, you know, I. I just think Trey Johnson, like, is a very important.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I. I want to have enough.

[Unknown]

Of these type of, like, microwave scores, though, in Washington.

[Andrew]

Yeah, exactly.

[Unknown]

And that's what he's really good for.

[Dave]

And Detroit, which a few people in the chat have mentioned. Detroit is not. Not a bad idea for him.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I just think about. Anytime I think about Detroit, I think about what was IB Supposed to be beside Cade Cunningham. Can you find that, like, hard?

[Andrew]

Yeah. Supposed to be this, like, division for them.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

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[Unknown]

All right.

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