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Jasmine Elizabeth
And so as soon as I left that relationship in 6 months, I hit my first 10k month and the rest was history.
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Podcast Host
Today's guest is speaker, content creator and founder. Today she shares her wisdom and insights to how we can live our most financially abundant life on our own terms. Joining me today on the podcast is Jasmine Elizabeth. How does money actually work and the system that sits under money, like, what do people really not understand about it?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
We were raised and programmed to think there is not enough. And then people think in lack so that. So they always settle. You're making yourself small for somebody else to feel comfortable. Definitely that mindset is what led me to choose relationships that would give me very little. I had no choice but to be my own backup plan.
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Podcast Host
How did you kind of step into that? I guess attitude or mindset?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
The biggest thing that I had to unblock was.
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Podcast Host
Hey, balancers. And welcome back to another episode of the Balance Theory. Today's guest has been a really serendipitous kind of happening, and I wanted to take them an opportunity to kind of share with you guys because I never really speak about how I choose guests. For me, it's either I meet people in real life that I really connect with and then I want to have a further conversation with them on the show, get to know them a bit more, or it's people I come across online. And in the same way, I'm drawn to kind of their content. Now, that doesn't mean I have to have been following them for years.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
It's just.
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Podcast Host
Just like instantly I know if what this person is about, what they're talking about, their messaging, if it aligns with me. Now, this particular guest today, I literally last week came across her content and I was really drawn to it. And I saw that she was in Dubai, but I didn't know that she didn't live here. And the second part of this story is that the studio I use is normally booked out for like a month to two months in advance. So it just so happened that she was visiting in Dubai and I had a spare interview slot due to other cancellations on her last day of being in Dubai. So I feel like whatever is going to come out of this conversation, whatever gems the messages, it's like truly meant to be. So I'm very excited to welcome Jasmine Elizabeth onto the podcast today. Welcome.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Thank you so much for having me. Wow. And I feel like it definitely was no coincidence. It's definitely, I call it alignment that everything happens so flawlessly. You know, you said, like, it took two and even Me, I was trying to book this studio too. And it was three weeks, three weeks in advance. I would have already been gone. So the fact that you were able to get a last minute spot. I leave to Toronto, Canada tonight. So this is like the last day. So we squeezed it in and I think it's going to be amazing.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, agreed. Really excited to get into it. So one of the things you talk about that I love, which is something I've really tapped into, I guess the last two, three years, is finding the confidence to create life on your own terms. I know that wasn't always where you were. So talk to me a little bit about your journey into finding that confidence to actually create your own life.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Okay, so it goes back. Well, I first started entrepreneurship in 2017 and I, I didn't have success until 2019. And a lot of people always ask me like, well, what changed between 2017 and 2019? So when I, in 2017 I got into, I was first introduced to entrepreneurship in the network marketing space and I really wanted to be financially free. Like I wanted it so badly. And then in 2019, I valued it, so I valued independence, I valued becoming financially free.
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Podcast Host
Let me just ask you something. Sorry. What's the difference between wanting it and valuing it?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
So the difference is it becomes a part of, it becomes a part of your identity and it's one of your values now. So. And it usually happens, it either happens with like something happened in your life that you're like, okay, this, this is who I want to be. These are my beliefs. This, these are my principles, these are my values. And I want to go ahead and, and on those values so that I can achieve my goals. So wanting it is like everyone wants it. Everyone wants success. But I feel like in my, with my story, I had to go through a scenario which I will talk about of being feeling like, feeling very low in my life, feeling like I was being controlled and feeling like I was relying on others instead of relying on myself to do it. And I had to go through that experience. So 2017, 2019, 2017, I literally was quitting and, and, and coming back into it and quitting and coming back into it until I found someone who could provide for me. And that's when I thought that was my lotto ticket. I'm like, okay, I don't have to try anymore. I don't have to work on my business anymore. This is so hard. So let me just put my independence to the side and depend on somebody. And I feel like God needed to really let Me know, or really have me in that experience, excuse me, so I can value independence. So I had to go through that. That relationship where he really, you know, controlled me financially. He was providing for me, and he was just. He had no peace in his life. And so that projected onto the relationship. And that's when I like, okay, well, I don't. This is not who I am. I want to go back to where I was, like, where I was trying to figure it out on my own so I can have full control over my life. And so that's when I started valuing my independence. From that moment, I feel like I had to. A lot of people have to hit rock bottom in order to see where they want their life to be, to have that peace in their life again. So I feel like that's kind of like how I got into entrepreneurship. The confidence, though, was more so about me having to let go or release the ties I had to the results. Like I had my worth onto connected to the results. So once I let go of that connection of feeling worthy every time I had success, a little bit of success, or when it didn't go my way, I. I would feel worthless. So I had to cut ties on the connection with that and the results in order for me to start living in my truth and my authenticity. Because I feel like a lot of people, they use their worth and they connect it to the results every time. And it's like you're always going to feel disappointed if you are always tying your worth to the results. So I think once I did that, the confidence started to come in. And the confidence for me was taking action. A little bit of action, Showing up a little bit every single day so that I can prove that I can keep my word to that I can keep what I said I was going to do a little bit. A little bit every day went a long way for me. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Couple things I want to pull out there. So the first one is it's such a beautiful reframe when you can appreciate a relationship that didn't work out, a job that didn't work out, an opportunity that didn't go your way as a necessary reference point in your life. And I always say this, like, how would you know that the business you started, the job you have, the city you're living in, the friendships you've got are the right ones for you if you haven't had any lived experience to show you what you don't like. Right. I think experiences are not just meant to show us what we like and appreciate and what we want, but also the opposite. So that when we do get the right thing, it is obvious.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
Right. We have that experience. So I love that you've kind of got that reframe on that point in life. Like life showed me that at that.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Moment, always life is our greatest teacher.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. I feel like the second part which most people listening to this show will resonate with is that feeling of our worth being tied to our productivity, to our output, to our results. So you said you had to cut ties with that.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
And that's a place I think many of us want to get to it. And to be honest, it's been something I've been very proactively working on because the way I have been, been raised and trained, I think the society I live in, you know, it's school, uni work, the, the corporate system as well is very much based on merit. Everyone is held to the same standard in terms of, you know, how much output you're doing every day. I've gone through the years learning that us as females, we're on let's say 28 day average cycles. So we don't come and show up every day and have the same output every day. 100 today might look like I've got 5% to give. That means if I give 5%, I've given 100%. Right. So it is a shifting thing. So for you to actually cut ties with that, to then come into your inner worth, did you have to replace it with something else? What were the act, like, how did you actually navigate that? Because it's, it's a beautiful place to get to, but I'm just wondering if there's anything practical you did that would help listeners.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
So I learned about myself like I learned what I value. I think values. If you are being led by your values, if you are working towards showing up that are like, how would I put this? Like some values could be like your spirituality, maybe your relationship with God, or it could be freedom. Like it could be, it could be. What could it be? It could be like health and wellness. Like you're, you really value your health. And if you show up working towards those values every single day to, for me that helped me be like, okay, well at least every single day I showed up and, and with my values, like I, I, I worked a little bit on how to get better with, become becoming financially free or I worked a little bit better to getting closer with God. And that gave me fulfillment in replacement of me connecting my worthiness to the result. So for me Becoming a better person meant acting towards my values every single day, and I grew more towards those values, which helped me become a person of value. So then I. I projected that onto the world, and people seen that and people I attracted better opportunities, better relationships, better friendships that were aligned with those values. So I feel like people need to be connected with their values and take action on those values. And I feel like that's the replacement that I had with. With. With tying down my worthiness with the results. Yeah, that's.
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Podcast Host
That's actually. I mean, you're not the first person to talk about getting clarity on your values on the show, and there's a good reason for it because it's such a valuable thing to do. So I guess in my head, there's two parts. The first is identify what your values are. And for people listening who haven't actually done it before, you can go online, and there are, like, easy values tests you can do or, like, you know, online prompts that will help you kind of narrow it down to your top three and five, which is actually a very hard thing to do. The first time I did it, there were like, hundreds of so many, and I was like, how am I going to choose three? But if you take the time when you're not in a rush and you do it exactly, then the second part of that is every day checking in and asking, did I live in alignment with those values? And it also does this beautiful thing, which is it gives you a framework to make decisions in. Yes. If you're going. If you want to say no to something, if you would like to do an opportunity or take up a new job or something, you're always framing it within your values, which I think is a really beautiful way and replacement that's practical to the way we traditionally view success and our own worth.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
So what if somebody listening. And I'm not sure if you had this experience where perhaps your values or the way you had created your life was kind of in someone else's vision. Now someone else could be your parents, your partner, society. Right. What other people have layered on to tell you is success. Right. Because I was there. I was sitting in a corporate job, and I was like, wow, I've supposedly reached the epitome of school uni work tick. And I did. I felt so unfulfilled.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Right.
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Podcast Host
So that was a key moment for me where I was like, wow, I feel like I'm living someone else's dream, but it's not mine. So did you have that experience at all? And what Advice would you give to people whom are maybe having that realization?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes. So definitely went through that exact moment my entire life. My mom obviously wanted me to be in school, university, get a good job, like the normal thing. And I don't hold resentment to my mom for even thinking that because that's what she was raised on. So she was only doing what she knew what was best for me. But always, she would always put in my head, like, you need to have a good job so you can have benefits. Working at a government job so you can have those benefits and it's stable and steady. And I did, I followed that routine, that route. I went to university and it was so out of alignment. And at the time, I didn't know what it meant. I just knew that it wasn't what I wanted to do. So how I learned to finally go into my purpose and be in alignment with the journey that I'm on right now is not living by default. Like not living in somebody else's what somebody else wants you to do, and living in your truth. But you have to find out what it is, what your truth is, what is your purpose, your calling, and do you, what do you want to be known for? What do you, or do you want to keep playing in somebody else's vision and for you to play small your entire life? So for me, it's like I needed to make decisions based off of my values. And I feel like every time I rent, but again, you have to figure out what your values are in order for you to always make those decisions based off of your values. So for me, it was like just being drained, being burnt out because I wasn't living in my truth and my purpose and really figuring out, okay, what do I want to be known for in this world in order for me to, to fulfilled and be happy. And it's really a reflection on your life and, and who you, what you want to do in this world, it really is deeper and, and, and you wanting what you want out of this life to, to create fulfillment. So I, I, I think that that's really getting out of living by default and making decisions based off of your values. Yeah, yeah.
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Podcast Host
And I think just something I want to call out, like, I mean, oftentimes you hear the stories, people have been burnt out, they're at rock bottom. That's what kind of kicks us into gear enough to make those shifts.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
But for people listening who are also on like cruise control right now.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Where things are, are on autopilot and maybe you are in that default Mode, like it's still an opportunity to go within and just almost do an assessment. Right. Because yes, it is your life at the end of the day, like, you don't have to live it on this mediocre mode. You can always be questioning. And that doesn't mean you have to every, every day, 247 be doing an audit of every area of your life, every single relationship. But I think every now and again, just checking in, even if you're not at this rock bottom or burnt out phase, is a really nice way to A, prevent that happening and B, just always be checking in for, like, where can I have more in my life? Yeah, right. Because I know that's something you love talking about how you stopped settling for, like, not wanting to ask for too much. And now, you know, how did you kind of step into that, I guess attitude or mindset of being okay, kind of claiming more for yourself? Because I feel like as women as well, we. We don't want to take up space.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
You know?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah, it's. So I was always that person that was like, well, I'm not even asking for much. Like, I'm not asking for much. And it's like every time I had that identity in me and that. That look like it for my life, I always made decisions based off of that identity of like, that mindset, that belief of like, okay, I'm not gonna. I never asked, so it should be fine. But every time I wouldn't ask for much, I would be disappointed or I would be. I just felt like I wasn't choosing myself. So I feel like I want the world, I want everything because I know who I am and I know the worthiness that I have within me. And it was when I started choosing me, where I was like, okay, well, who is me? And me is a lot. I am a lot. And I take up room, I take up space, and people feel my presence. So if I do, I should have the audacity to ask for everything because that's who I am. Like, in me, my presence, it's a lot. It's taking up a lot of space. So I feel like once I knew that, everything started to rise with those standards. So.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. Do you feel like when you were in that headspace of like, I'm not going to ask for too much, I'm not going to take up space?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
That's what attracted you into what sounds like maybe the wrong relationship for you in the past. So, yes, I say wrong not because it didn't serve a purpose, but in hindsight yes.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
So, yes, I settled for the bare minimum. I settled for. I would always. And so I'm 34 years old, my entire higher 20s. I would always choose the lesser route, like the. Okay, I'm not asking for too much. It's fine. This is fine. Like, I'm just gonna put up with this. But that, again, that comes with identity, like, who you are. Like, you're not choosing yourself, you're settling. You're. You're making yourself small for somebody else to feel comfortable. So, yeah, definitely. I. I would say, like, that mindset is what led me to choose relationships that were. Would give me very little. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
And so kind of fast forward now sounds like you've obviously done a little work on yourself. You living in alignment with your values.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes, trying my best. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
You know, you. You spoken at length about your spirituality and your religious connection.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
So now, like, kind of fast forward, you're single, you're dating, you had this viral reel where you talk about, if he was broke, I wouldn't choose him. Yeah. And, I mean, it's quite jarring when you hear it, but when you hear the substance of what you're actually saying.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
Can you unpack that for us? Because I feel like people are too scared to be that bold. But what you're actually saying, I think is something everybody should uphold for themselves.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
So this one specific video came with a lot of backlash. I actually love that you're asking this question because I. I wanted to elaborate more on it now that it went viral. So this video. So I'm a content creator, of course, I'm looking for different ways to get people's eyeballs onto my page. And so I seen this one hook, which was, if he were broke, I wouldn't choose him. And I'm like, this is going to be controversial. I'm going to use it. But I'm going to elaborate what I mean on this. And a lot of men did stop listening after that one hook, and they just didn't hear the rest of the message. So I actually want to clarify on this. And this is one of the videos that I actually regretted. Like, I was like, oh, I regret doing this video like this. This brought so much backlash. Nobody understood anything. Well, the men didn't understand anything. And I didn't, like, it made me feel very uncomfortable because it was like they didn't understand the message. They understand the opposite. So I'm here to clarify that. But I did not mean that I want a multimillionaire boyfriend, and that was not the message. So I'm gonna talk about. Actually, I've been on both extremes. Like I said, I've been with a man who was a multimillionaire and who was young, who was handsome. He gave me the world, gave me, gifted me a Bentley truck, Chanel bags, the lifestyle, the penthouse, everything. And I thought, well, every girl thought that this was a dream, but for me, it was a prison. I was silenced. I was manipulated. I was controlled. And he just didn't have peace in his life because of that. So he projected that into the relationship. And so that didn't work out for me, and I left it. And then I got into another relationship, which was the opposite. He loved me very well. He knew how to love me, but he lacked vision and ambition. So. And that, to me, you know, I thought that, okay, I'm not going to be with a guy who has money because he's going to rob me of my peace. So let me be with someone who knows how to love me. And I learned from that experience that love is not enough. There needs to be more. Depending on where you're at in your life. If you are in your early 20s, maybe love is enough. But I'm 34 years old, and I have to think about the future, you know, my future. And I seen that that wasn't going to work for me either.
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Podcast Host
It's like two extremes.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
It's two extremes. And so what I want to say about that video is I need a man who is ready emotionally, spiritually, and financially. Okay? And for that. For the purpose of. Because I want to raise a family. So when I have children, I want to have beautiful children. I don't want to be a busy mom. I want to be a present mom, right? So I know what it takes to run a business or have success and make money, and especially the type of income that I'm making. And my worst fear is having a child. A child. And being more intentional with. Being more intentional with my business than with my child. That's my biggest fear. And another fear is being with a man who doesn't have peace in his life, but brings and brings that chaos into the household. So I. And I'm not gonna. You know, I'm not gonna settle for. For a man. Well, I don't. I don't want to raise my child in dysfunction just because I didn't on God's best for me. So that's what I meant with that video, is I need someone who's ready emotionally, spiritually, financially. I have built myself up to be who I am. I've healed, I've, I'm still healing, but I'm, I've healed, I've growed, I'm growing. And I just don't want to give that to somebody who hasn't done the same. So that's, that's, that's. I hope that was a good answer for everyone, to be fair.
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Podcast Host
Like, I listened to the whole thing. Yeah. And it's definitely the message I got. And what I liked about it was it really, like, I just, I, I laugh because everything I talk about on this show comes back down to like knowing yourself and what you want and your own values. And the bottom line is what you think and feel about yourself is reflected in the opportunities you get. Opportunities being career wise, work wise, relationships, friendships, all of that. Yeah. If you're not happy with something that is in your immediate reality, you need to do a check in with your internal world because everything is a reflection. And so if you are not holding that standard or that vision of yourself. Right. That you, you think you are worthy of all these things, then of course you're going to attract something that aligns with what you genuinely believe.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
And so for me, like, the whole idea, I know it's triggering for people, like, I'm not going to choose him if he's broke, but someone who, like, they don't have to be a multi millionaire. Right. But I think about it too, like, if I was single, I would need to be with someone who was driven and ambitious and working on something and had a vision for their life. It doesn't mean they have to be at the end and achieved it all.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
But like, start writing the chapters, you know, and let's write them together. That excites me. That's what my husband's like.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
You know, and so I fully get that and appreciate that. But for people that are single and listening to this, have you sort of done any, I don't know if you like, journal or like, do any kind of internal questions with yourselves or check in or anything like that? Is there anything practical you can share with them? Because I actually often, I realize I often don't talk about being single because it's just not an experience.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
I've been my husband for 10 years.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Oh, that's amazing.
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Podcast Host
But for the people who are single, listening, be an opportunity for them to maybe just get some insight, you know, what, what kind of things should they be asking themselves to make sure they're attracting the right people?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Okay, so what should they be asking themselves on? Like, what they look for in a man? Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Either what they're looking for or even what they're thinking and feeling about themselves just to make sure like. Because you know, I have a lot of friends that are like, I've been on like every, every guy last five guys I've dated. They're all the same. Right? So it's like, is that something we can change?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Okay.
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Podcast Host
Is it an attraction thing?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes. So I feel like for me it's like every time I like show interest and I, I see it doesn't end up working out, I really, it's. I reflect back into. Okay, what made me focus on, on this. Like why did I give this attention? Like why did I give that person attention? Like what was it that I internally was craving out of like wanting that attention from that person? And I like for me it will get deep for me, for me I struggle, I struggle with like, you know, I mean, I guess everyone goes through this too is like you just want the attention. So that could be dangerous because you can just get attention from anyone in this life. Like with men who are unhealed, broken, they can give you the attention, but long term wise it's like, okay, well what, what would be worth getting the attention? Like how, how. What are their. Like you. I, for me, I have to get to know someone's values and see right away if it aligns with my values. So. And you're not going to see that right away. You're gonna. For me it's a three month probation period is what I like to call it. Right. So a three month probation period. Because at the beginning and also something that I do is like I don't really tell them much about me or my values. Like I don't. Because then they can, you know, mold themselves to be that at the beginning I want to see them for who they are and, and, and then get my, my clarity from that. So I would say like three month probation. I, I don't really journal down of what is it that like I don't really do that stuff. Like I just kind of like reflect in and I just like ask myself like, what was it that allowed me to give this person attention and why? And then what is it that we can fix within in order for us to not get for, in order for us to not focus on that, what do we have to heal within to be able to attract better? And that's something that I'm more aligned with. So for me it's like, it really is spiritual. Like I go back to God every time When I'm craving attention, I go back to God, because God, he fulfills me in every way possible. Love, reassurance, everything. And so that's why, for me, it's like, I actually want a man of God that is in his. I'm Christian, so I want to have a man who reflects his character within Jesus, like Jesus's characteristics. I want him to. The man to reflect his character because I feel like safe and reassured in. In Jesus. So I feel like that is kind of my guideline. Like my. My focus. Point of like, okay, how's your characteristic? And if it's. It. If it aligns with what I want, like, in a man, then I kind of, like, guide myself through there. So I don't really have a journal. No, I don't really do that.
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Podcast Host
Yeah, but I think what you've just shared, the. Even. Just the simple question of, like, what made me attracted to this person? Especially if you've been going on a string of dates and.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
And, yeah, we've had a few bad.
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Podcast Host
Experiences in a row, or you're just coming out of one particular experience. Like, even if I reflect back to my old dating days. Yeah. You know, like, if I actually ask myself that question, like, there are things that come out of that that teach you something about yourself, about. Yeah, maybe you're in a particularly fragile or vulnerable state, and that simple question would tell you it's actually not a time to be opening yourself up to others right now and there's work to be done. Or maybe you're looking for something because it mirrors something you had and you're trying to replace it. But was that the right thing for you? Right. Is it the only thing you've ever known?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
So familiarity is something that made me go down that path of just settling for people that were chaotic or inconsistent in their emotions and in who they were as a character. Because I was raised with a father, unfortunately, who didn't know how to love me because he didn't. He was unhealed himself. So I would. I would see familiarity in that and think, okay, that's love. So that's why the healing has to happen. You have to know what true healed love is. Or. Or. Yeah. And. And then that has to be your. Your. Your. Your guideline. Because a lot of people go to what's familiar, and familiar can be toxic love from what you've been raised on. And that, in my situation, was, for me, with my father, unfortunately. So I had to relearn and rewire my mindset on what love really is. And that's why I talk a lot about my, my, my faith, because that's where that, that gave me so much reassurance that, okay, this is what true love is. And like, I want a man who embodies that. So. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. No, that's beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
No problem.
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Podcast Host
I'd love to kind of pick your brain a little bit more on like, business and money.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
So you talk about how, and I can personally vouch for this as well, how starting a business is very much like a self development journey.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
What was the biggest, biggest thing you had to unblock or unlearn in order for you to achieve the success that you've got today?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
So the biggest thing that I had to unblock was me thinking that I needed to be an expert and embrace the beginner journey. So I feel like for me, the reason why it took me so long to get to where I'm, I'm at, which I feel like a lot of people can get it in half the time that I did is because I wanted to wait for the perfect timing. I wanted to wait until I had more information so that I can be seen as the authority in my field. And I had to quickly realize that actually people are gravitated by authenticity. People are gravitated by realness. And the realness is you as a beginner. Like, being a beginner is a lot more relatable than someone who is, you know, 100 steps ahead. So I had to realize, I had to unblock that, like, get that out of the way and embrace my beginner journey. And that's when I started attracting a lot of people into my business that were on the same journey, but they looked up to me because I was just one step ahead. So that's all. A lot of people think they have to be like a hundred steps. No, you just gotta be one step ahead. As long as you're focused on self improvement and teaching, putting that into your life and then teaching that to others, you will have people being inspired by you. So I feel like that's what I really had to learn is just embracing the beginner journey. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. That's really powerful.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
And then you also talk about how you had your first 10k month right after you left your toxic relationship.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
Do you think that was a coincidence?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
No, it was not a. I do not think it was a coincidence. I felt like it was God's way of showing me, like, hey, I just needed you to move out of the way so that he can step in so God can Step in and really show me that I can trust myself as long as I have, you know, God in my life. Like, I am with God, and God can guide me. I can trust myself, and I can guide myself to alignment, to purpose, to happiness, to fulfillment. And so as soon as I left that relationship, it really. It was like night and day. In 6 months, I hit my first 10k month and the rest was history. I. I never went back. I know I did not lack income. Like, after that. It was a blessing, honestly. Because of God. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
That's so crazy. Was there any, like, belief you held about yourself? So aside from, you know, you've spoken today about, like, the. The fact that you wanted to be financially independent, and so you obviously, that experience, you obviously stepped into that. But in terms of the way you actually saw yourself, did you actually, like, cognitively shift the way you were thinking about yourself to actually embrace that? I mean, to have left a relationship, something must have shifted, right?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes. So I had no choice but to be my own backup plan. Right. I had. I had no choice. I was like the. I was in desperation and I had to again, have a talk with myself and be like, well, you've relied on others for so long, and where has that gotten you? It's like, why don't you choose yourself for the first time and see what happens? And so I bet myself that was the day. I'm like, I'm going to bet on myself. I'm going to trust myself. I'm going to put it back into me, and I'm going to see where that takes me. I have never done that before. Let me really trust myself and. And figure this out for myself. Choose me for the first time. And that's what happened, like, after that. Yeah. I had no choice. I was desperate. I had nothing left in me. So who. Who else am I going to choose? Right. So I had to choose myself and better myself for the first time.
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Podcast Host
I love this idea of being your own backup plan. Like, we often think, oh, okay, my plan A is this safety net I've got now, and whatever you're doing now and then plan B is like, oh, the business might work out, or this person might come into my life, or this opportunity might come up. But actually, just having yourself as your own backup plan is so powerful. I had a similar experience this year because, as the listeners know, last year I left my corporate job.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
And I started consulting as a lawyer. Yeah. So I have a. Basically that means I have a bunch of clients that I work as their lawyer. But it's more on a project basis.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Okay.
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Podcast Host
I don't work for a firm full time. I don't work for any client full time. I'm just. Just my own boss working very flexibly on a project basis. Which really suits me, obviously, in this phase of me becoming a mum and having the podcast that could help swing juggle everything. But that jump was so scary. And that was the. I've always been in a salary job. Right. And when you. If I've started businesses, it's been on the side. Right. Of having a salary job. So it's the first time I've not had one. And the first few months were a little bit scary. On January 1st of this year.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
I literally decided to be my own backup plan. And I said, I'm gonna go for this. I'm gonna put everything I have into this and that Q1. Like, it's like the universe showed me. Yeah, you've got this girl.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Like, we've literally been waiting for you to just step into this lane.
- [36:45]
Jasmine Elizabeth
Exactly.
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Podcast Host
And now, like, we're gonna show you, like, what's been waiting for you this whole time. That's honestly how it felt like. But it's so hard to make that commitment and, like, be your own backup plan.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
So what would you say to people who are feeling, like, really fearful around that?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Surrender. Surrender it. Because that's what you did. You're like, I'm surrendering it. Like, you are putting your full faith into this lane, and that's. That's what you have to do in order for you to be your own backup plan. You're like, you know, I'm making this decision. I'm choosing myself. I'm being my own backup plan. There's no way. I have to figure it out. I'm going to figure it out whether I know all the answers or I don't. And at the time, I didn't have all the answers. But I know that I'm being guided, and it's been proven with the past experiences. And I'm going to surrender it all, and I'm going to let go of the control. Because a lot of people, they stay in this mindset of, like, okay, I'm going to play it safe because they want control. The control is in the known. When you're in the unknown, you have to let go of that control because you can't control the unknown. So I feel like, I guess for me, my advice to people is to surrender it all and bet on yourself and know that someone's guiding you. I'M going to talk about God again, because God really is the person that's. That's going to reveal everything in your. In your path on what you want to do. I feel like, for me, my belief system is so strong on. I can. I can never lose loose. I can never lose the income, even if. And I've lost it before. I've gone to multiple six figures and I've lost it all, and I've rebuilt it back even more now. So for me, I have. My belief is so strong that there's no way, even if something were to happen in the physical reality that I have right now, God will make a way no matter what. And it's always. That's always been proven to happen no matter what. So now I have full surrender. I surrender and sometimes I'm scared, but I have to go back to having full faith and running off of that faith. Faith is my biggest asset in my business. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. I just genuinely believe, like, in a very similar way, but framed in a bit of a personal take, is like, if you just keep going, there's no way you're not going to succeed. I think the only failure is stopping.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Exactly.
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Podcast Host
Unless it's something that's genuinely no longer aligned for you or it's toxic or something like that. Put that aside. If you're working on something and you hold the vision. And like me with this podcast. Right. Like, people look at it today and be like, oh, my God, it's so amazing. But I had to push through weeks where I felt like no one was listening. Yeah, exactly.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
That's insane. Five years.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. One episode a week.
- [39:38]
Jasmine Elizabeth
Wow.
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Podcast Host
So I feel like, you know, you have to hold the vision. Yes.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
And this.
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Podcast Host
This really comes full circle back to values and alignment. Like, if you're. For me, like, this podcast is such an authentic extension of who I am. It's a space for me to learn and connect and just share that with the world. And so because I've always known that it's such a beautiful extension of my personal self, it's. I haven't been worried about all those success metrics along the way. Like, I've just held the vision and kept going, and it's now, like, grown into this beautiful thing, but I'm not surprised by it. I kind of always knew that was going to happen, but I feel like you almost need that. What is it they call it, like. Like delusional belief.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes.
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Podcast Host
That things are going to happen. Like, it feels delusional because it's, like you said, it's not Something you see in your physical reality. But if you know what's going to happen, you know it's going to come, like.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Exactly.
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Podcast Host
It helps. You just keep showing up with that.
- [40:29]
Jasmine Elizabeth
Discipline, no matter what, with the challenges and everything.
- [40:31]
Podcast Host
Exactly.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Just put it to the side and you keep going.
- [40:33]
Podcast Host
Yeah, exactly.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Love that.
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Podcast Host
I'd love to pick your brain on your thoughts around money.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Okay.
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Podcast Host
Because obviously it sounds like you've got a very financially abundant mindset and strong money beliefs which have no doubt played a role in your financial success. How does money actually work? And the system that sits under money, like, what do people really not understand about it?
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Okay, so I love this question because it's something that a lot of people don't know. And I would say that money isn't just. It's not just money like physical paper, cash money. Money is energy. And it really is all about how well your nervous system is. Meaning you have to be. You have to know that you are worthy of the overflow. Meaning, like, you have to. You have to know that you are worthy for more. I feel like energy is a huge. It's all it is is money is just energy. Like it's not working harder. It's not hustling your. The hours away. It's all how worthy you. You, how, how much you think you are worthy of more. So for me, for example, in my journey, I feel like I went through this, this process where I thought I had, and this is how I, I ended, ended up in burnout. And it was because I was hustling my life away thinking that I need to work harder, I need to work harder. And I felt like I had to again reflect on that moment. Like, why am I so burnt out? Why am I. Do I have so much resentment on my masculine side? And that's when I realized it's just, just I think that I had to overcompensate on working harder because that's like, you know, that's how I'm gonna make more money. And once I realized that it was because I didn't think that I was worthy of making more money, that's when everything changed. So now I work. I operate from like, I'll do the work, but I won't stress over it. I won't have to. I, I'll. I'll do what I need to do. I know what I have to do, and then I will. It's. I'll let that. I'll let God do the rest. And, and the energy of that attracts all the different opportunities into my life. So I feel like when you, you know that you are meant for more and you know that you can make more money and money means I feel like from. In my life is like, how many more lives can I impact? Like if I focus on service, serving more people, impacting more people, like this podcast is going to impact more people. And I know that I'm going to make more. More abundance is going to come into my life. I know that I'm worthy of it. I know that I can make more money based off of the amount of lives I can impact, then that's, that's what it is. I don't have to work harder. I don't. I, I am who. Like, I don't know how to explain it, but like, it's like again, at the end of the day, it is energy and like if you operate from a place of abundance, you will show up like that. And that's why I feel like a lot of people like, are gravitated to my page because of that. That shows. So I make more money in, in the process because people are, are interested in, okay, what does Jazz do? I want to be a light like her. I wanna, I wanna, I wanna become a better person, like how Jasmine has taught me to be. And so then they start to see, okay, what does she do? And so that's where the, the money comes from. So I feel like if you operate from your, like, regulating your nervous system and, and learning how to know that you're worthy of more, I feel like more money is going to come into your life because subconsciously you'll just stop it there. So if, if you think you're not worthy of it, you'll self sabotage it. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. So there's like two key things there, like the, the self belief in the worthiness and then, yeah, the other key one is like working more equals making more, which I feel comes from. You know, I was explaining to you before why we moved to Dubai. And yeah, my husband used to be a chiropractor, so his physical time was traded for money. More he worked, the more money he made. That was just like a sheer reality of what he was doing. So I feel like that's a really important one to break out of for a lot of people. And it's difficult because the way those systems are set up is to keep you in that belief.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
Like, so any specific words to those people? I mean, I know there's other avenues to make money, but like that being your reality makes that belief a really far away jump. If you know What I'm saying.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yes, yes. So you're saying like the people that like trade time for money.
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Podcast Host
Yes.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Okay. So we were raised and programmed to think there is not enough. And still to, till this day, I see it a lot. Even with entrepreneurs who are building their business, we were trained to think that there's not enough, so there's not enough of anything. Money, especially like where. And then people think in lack so that. So they always settle for less. Yeah, safety. Right, they settle for safety. But then long term wise, what does that, what does that manifest into? That manifests into unhappiness. Unfulfillment. No peace. And like misery. And so you have to really believe that, okay, I can create the reality in my life in order for me to get more, I have to be more, become more mindset wise. Because everything that you attracted into your life is because of the mindset that you have today. So for me, I was so broke when I was 24 years old, 25 years old, and it was because I just always went back to, okay, I know how to make money and that's by trading my time for it. So you just have to rewire that mindset into thinking like, okay, all I got to do is is become a person of value. The more I can learn skill sets that pay me, which is the higher highest paying skill sets are sales, branding, marketing, these are all very high paying income skills. So if I can learn this and become more of a person of value, I can make more money instead of not having any skills and then clocking in and out every hour and settling for that. Like there, there's so in this world for everyone on this earth to make a lot like for people to live comfortably, it's just, people don't believe it. And so if you can just rewire that mindset and think, okay, let me learn skill sets that pay me very handsomely and I will start creating a life of abundance financially into my life. So I feel like, I think that's the mindset is people just have to believe that. You just have to rewire your mindset and stop thinking that there's very little in this world. No, there's enough money. But the people that go after the money are the people that, that believe that they can make more.
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Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
So yeah.
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Podcast Host
Yeah. And in my kind of experience too, if you just shift your focus into how can I learn more, grow more and just genuinely become more as a person. Become a person of value.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
You actually often can't anticipate all the opportunities both financially and just in life in general, that come off the back of that.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
- [48:10]
Podcast Host
Right. Like this. I hate coming back to it all the time. But like this podcast for me is a space where I have learned how to grow as a communicator, how to connect to different people, how to articulate myself. You can tell, you know, and that.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
You'Re very calm, collect.
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Podcast Host
Thank you.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
You're a great speaker. I love it and it shows. And it's probably because of the podcast that you've been on, you know. Yeah.
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Podcast Host
So. So just me doing that not with the intention of money has made so many fruitful opportunities, both financial and non financial. You know, it's put me in rooms, it's put me in conversations with people I couldn't imagine sitting with. And so I feel like if you just like. Because money is energy.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Right.
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Podcast Host
And it's a, it's a part of working on your worthiness, of whether you feel you want it or not. And so when you remove the focus of how many zeros or like x many figures this year and you actually just work on yourself as a whole, it's this beautiful like trickle effect into everything. Like it doesn't work in isolation.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah.
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Podcast Host
And everything you do kind of fuels that and will contribute to that in terms of your abundance, mindset and the way you think, the way you think and feel about yourself, it's the source of all.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Yeah, it really is. And people just don't believe it because it's not like it has to be tangible. People think, think they think money is a numbers game. It really is not. It's just a nervous system game and just regulating that nervous system and knowing that you're worthy of making so much money because of who you are. And the more you better yourself, the more money that's going to come into your life.
- [49:41]
Podcast Host
Yeah, that's a mic drop right there. Yeah. Well, Jasmine, I've really loved connecting with you today. I'm sure we could chat for at least another two hours. Yes. But we'll have to call it here. Yes, I will put links to where people can find you online. But I want to just thank you so much for your time and I'm really grateful that it all aligned and worked out to connect today.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Thank you so much for having me. This made my day and I'm gonna go on my flight just feeling very fulfilled because I love, I just love speaking with like minded individuals and you can tell that we, we are definitely aligned with our mindset. So. And congratulations on your podcast on your beautiful day.
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Podcast Host
Thank you.
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Jasmine Elizabeth
Thank you so much once again.
- [50:19]
Podcast Host
Thank you. Appreciate you.
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