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Joe Santagato
Welcome back to the basement. Welcome back to the basement yard. Frank, how's it going? What are you looking at over there?
Frank Alvarez
Nothing.
Joe Santagato
What?
Frank Alvarez
Nothing. Did you get any, like, text messages or anything? You crazy? Question. Anyone get in touch with you? Any text messages?
Joe Santagato
Would you look at that?
Frank Alvarez
You did.
Joe Santagato
There's a text from you.
Frank Alvarez
No, it must be a known number.
Joe Santagato
You fucking little dirty bitch. Your boyfriend Tristan only wants to suck my fingies for dessert. He's all mine. Off. Fugly whore.
Frank Alvarez
Bish.
Joe Santagato
Oh, no. You almost put your hands through the desk right there. Sir, we need you to take it down. Thank you for texting me that.
Frank Alvarez
I just.
Joe Santagato
You know, we knew we were gonna talk about this document. Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Well, I figured that I would get. I need to get in character.
Joe Santagato
Sure.
Frank Alvarez
You know, Fugly whore.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. He only wants to suck my fingies for dessert.
Frank Alvarez
Spelled D I Z, Z I R.
Joe Santagato
T, which is the only proper way to spell dessert.
Frank Alvarez
I remember the spelling of dessert because desert is one thing, but dessert is extra sweet, so it needs another S.
Joe Santagato
That's a good way. That's like good mnemonic device.
Frank Alvarez
You're welcome. Now that's. Now you're never gonna fuck that up.
Joe Santagato
I haven't.
Frank Alvarez
I know the difference. I'm just patting.
Joe Santagato
Are there words that, like, you have to say, say in order to spell acknowledge? How do you. What do you say in your head?
Frank Alvarez
Acknowledge.
Joe Santagato
No, that's not what I mean. I meant, like, is there a word that you are pronouncing wrong?
Frank Alvarez
Oh, well, thank. Thanks to Bruce Almighty. Beautiful. B E A. Beautiful. And then everyone does Wetness Day.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, I also. I also, for business, say bus. I ness.
Frank Alvarez
Bus. I nuts.
Joe Santagato
Ms.
Frank Alvarez
Bus. High nut.
Joe Santagato
No. Nope.
Frank Alvarez
I'll be busting I nuts.
Joe Santagato
See? No, no, though.
Frank Alvarez
Plus, I miss also the one that I have to. I don't say it, but I have to think about it. February. Because it's February.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, there's.
Frank Alvarez
There's. It's not February. Yeah, it's February.
Joe Santagato
Is there a word that you just can't spell?
Frank Alvarez
Honestly? I know it's an Easy one. But acknowledge I have had trouble with in the past.
Joe Santagato
It's just ac.
Frank Alvarez
I know, I know, I know. I just. I don't ask me why I've had trouble with it.
Joe Santagato
Mine is itinerary.
Frank Alvarez
I T I N E R A Y I add like tinernade. Itinerant.
Joe Santagato
See, it's tough.
Frank Alvarez
Itinerary. No, hold on. I used to spell itinerani. Yo, what is going to say the word. Hold on.
Ant
Let's have. I have it up.
Frank Alvarez
Itinerary. He can't say itinerary.
Joe Santagato
You can't say it.
Frank Alvarez
Itinerary.
Joe Santagato
Itinerary.
Frank Alvarez
Yes. Yeah, okay. Yo, my feel my heart, it is racing. I got scared for a sec.
Joe Santagato
I I, I used to, I used to spell it. I like. Itary.
Frank Alvarez
Itinerant.
Joe Santagato
Itinerary.
Frank Alvarez
I T I n. Oh, don't, don't help. N E R A N Y. Huh? Itinerary. See, I can't even say it. It's rare. Rari.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, rare Y. Itinerary.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, itinerary. I T I N E R A R Y. Okay.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Yo, that's a tough one. See, that is a really, really difficult one.
Joe Santagato
A lot of people can't spell restaurant. That's mad easy.
Frank Alvarez
Rest tower on. Yeah, I. The only reason I know how to do that, and this is a very weird, I guess mnemonic device is because of our friend Lawrence. How he spelled his name with the au.
Joe Santagato
That's the only reason I know how.
Ant
To spell restaurant when I was a kid for together. I did to get her.
Joe Santagato
Oh, dude, what the fuck do you get?
Frank Alvarez
It's just like with those glasses. Dahmer.
Joe Santagato
To get her.
Frank Alvarez
Jesus Christ. Get her and what kidnapper, you fucking freak. Get her and wear her skin to get her together. Me and her together.
Joe Santagato
I must get her. Jesus. Take it easy.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, that. No, there, there are other ones. Like, like spelling wise. We haven't done a spelling bee in a while. We should probably revisit that for a Santago Studios video.
Joe Santagato
I would. That's one of our like, I'm not great at spelling.
Frank Alvarez
A lot of people don't realize that that is one of our like longest running clips that we have. That's before. That's from like 2018, 2019. As Blendo.
Joe Santagato
Oh yeah, yeah.
Frank Alvarez
That's from a. A Santago Studios spelling bee video.
Joe Santagato
That was a while ago.
Frank Alvarez
That was I think 2018 or 2019. Yeah, you know, definitely pre pandemic.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, it was.
Frank Alvarez
You know, because I was like 170 pounds.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. And you had slicked back hair like.
Frank Alvarez
Steve Seagal, of all the people look just like him. I looked like Steven Seagal.
Joe Santagato
Your hair looked like him.
Frank Alvarez
I did. Don't fucking shake your head.
Joe Santagato
Didn't it?
Frank Alvarez
No, it didn't. All of a sudden you look like.
Joe Santagato
Everyone and now no one.
Frank Alvarez
No, I definitely don't look like Steven Seagal.
Joe Santagato
I'm not saying you look like Steven Seagal.
Frank Alvarez
I know you. I'm not telling you who I look like. I'm telling you who I'm.
Joe Santagato
I look like Idris Alba.
Frank Alvarez
I have been told that there. Who is that? Who said that? Someone.
Joe Santagato
Right.
Frank Alvarez
I have been told there are similarities between myself and Idris Elba. I'm not the one that's telling. I'm not making this up. You think I would ever like that? That's tone deaf to say that I look and resemble Idris Elba. The dude is chiseled from marble and he's black. Yeah, that too.
Joe Santagato
Most obvious one.
Frank Alvarez
That too. But like just reporting the news. But back to my text message to you.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Fugly whore.
Joe Santagato
Right? Fugly.
Frank Alvarez
Fugly. Stupid bitch. Right?
Joe Santagato
That's what you said. Something slower. We. There's a documentary right now out on Netflix and just letting you know it's.
Frank Alvarez
Called like the worst Catfish.
Joe Santagato
Well, it's called Unknown Caller.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, okay. I'm wrong.
Joe Santagato
We're gonna spoil it for the sake of having this conversation. So if you really care about that, then I guess you can skip it. But I promise you this episode is probably better than the documentary also.
Frank Alvarez
Definitely better than documentary. Because we're the basem. Are two. Everyone is talking about it.
Joe Santagato
Yes. Like if hard to ignore.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. And if we're the one spoiling it for you, congrats.
Joe Santagato
It's also like worth watching. Even if, you know, like, I guess the twist.
Frank Alvarez
And. And the reason it's worth watching with the twist is the fact that. So background basically it. It centers around this girl who was 15, 16 at the time, if that. And was getting harassed via text. Via text message from someone. That is just saying the most vile.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Period.
Joe Santagato
She had a boyfriend. Was like. Oh, your boyfriend. His name was like Owen, right? Yeah, yeah. White name. Tell also this is a small town where there's their school that they're in is from like kindergarten to 12th grade. Yeah. Like that's how small this town is.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. Everyone knows each and there's like 400 kids or something like that.
Joe Santagato
So like it's. It's hard to pull something like this off, you know?
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. But also like this happened a couple years ago, right?
Joe Santagato
I don't know when it was technological.
Frank Alvarez
Advances that we have. The fact that like it was coming from an unknown number.
Joe Santagato
Well, it was one of those apps.
Frank Alvarez
Regardless. Still difficult, you know, like I asking.
Joe Santagato
Or what are you saying?
Frank Alvarez
To like hide something like that?
Joe Santagato
Oh yeah.
Frank Alvarez
You know, I imagine that the police have a plethora. I mean clearly if you watch the documentary, you see they have tools that they're ready.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
You know, but she's getting harassed by these text messages that are just saying like not only the most vile stuff to say to anyone, but like also to like a 16 year old girl.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. Like they're saying stuff like, oh, your boyfriend Owen doesn't. Doesn't love you anymore. He likes me. And then like the next text message would be like, he wants BJ's Make Me Cream. And you're like, what is this? Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Which is. Which it's so like, it's just, it's insane. Like there's no other way to describe it outside of the insanity of the fact that it happened. But then, so as you're watching the documentary, like they get like, they talk to the girl, they talk to her mom, they talk to her dad, they talk to her Owen, they talk to his parents. It's a pretty like good amount of people that they have in the documentary.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
And then like 3/4 of the way through you find out spoiler. But it's us. It's a basement yard. You like us, right? The person that was sending the text messages was the girl's own mother.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. So the girl's own mother is sending her messages going, hey, kill yourself. How do you, on top of everything else, also make me cream?
Frank Alvarez
Just yo. Like there are so many levels.
Joe Santagato
Why are you saying that?
Frank Alvarez
There are so many levels to why this is, forget wrong. Like cyberbullying is wrong period. But like there's just added layers on top of it. Like you're Talking to your 16 year old daughter and sexualizing her and her 16 year old boyfriend and saying like, like you're like relating it back to you. It's just like he hung out with me and, and I gave him hand job and it's like, yo, you're fuck it, you're an adult.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. Like, what is the point of this? Like what's the end game here?
Frank Alvarez
Here's the thing. I watch you. I feel like you watch a lot of like true crime documentaries too.
Joe Santagato
Sure.
Frank Alvarez
I watch them sometimes begrudgingly because they scare me.
Joe Santagato
What do you mean? They're spooky crime.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, we all don't like crime.
Frank Alvarez
I know, but, like, I really don't like crime. That's why I went to school to try to be a.
Joe Santagato
Just to fight crime.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, to fight crime. Look at me now. How's that going? Look at me now. But I like true crime. Freaks me out more than, like, horror movies, if that makes any sense.
Joe Santagato
Okay.
Frank Alvarez
Because, like, it actually happened. It actually happened. And, like, a lot of the time would be like, we had no clue. They were so nice and personable, you know, like. Like the one about your Uncle Dahmer, like, it was like, you know, it was a quiet person like, that seemingly no one could have told. And it's just like, I know quiet people.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
You know, I know people that are chill. So, like, it freaks me out. This was one that was so insane to me because most documentaries you watch, it'll be like, oh, everyone. No one knows who it was, but it's like the person, the victim's husband is not in the documentary. So you're like, okay, yeah, we can kind of decipher, using process of elimination that it was that person.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, the mom was in this documentary chatting away the whole time, and then all of a sudden they're like, yeah, no, it was Kendra. I was like, what? This bitch, dude, she's texting her daughter this shit.
Frank Alvarez
And why would you be in it?
Joe Santagato
If I'm her, I'd be like, yo. Yeah. Nah, I went through a thing and was kind of crazy. A weird thing that I did. I'm going to choose to bow out of the documentary. How did they get her to do it?
Frank Alvarez
Because the woman is clearly severely mentally ill and she thought she could go there and, like, explain it away where people are just like, you know what?
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Like, first of all, the scene when they, like, confront her about it was heart wrenching because, like, yo, her daughter is there and she's, like, trying to hold. And you. You see this girl, her daughter's eyes, like, she just disassociates.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
What the.
Joe Santagato
Do you think, like, as a child, your. You realize in that moment, like, oh, my mom. This, by the way, this was going on for 18 months. 18 months of her getting text messages from her mom being like, yo, you're kill yourself. No one wants your flat ass.
Frank Alvarez
And they said, like, she's a child. When they, like, so eventually the local police department had to hand it over to the FBI. And they were like, we have 1400 pages or however many pages of text messages. Do you know how many text messages you need to have to Fit them on one page.
Joe Santagato
They what? At one point they said there was, there was a, a time where There was like 50 text messages a day.
Frank Alvarez
Dude, what is wrong with you? I know, I'm sorry, I know you haven't seen it, but like we're, we're completely spoiling it for you at this point. It's just like the level of, bro, I wouldn't, I would never do this for a plethora of reasons, but just the work and effort that it went into doing that, dude.
Joe Santagato
Well then she also like lied to her husband about. She was like let go from a job, but she actually quit the job. Oh no.
Frank Alvarez
She got fired. She said she quit.
Joe Santagato
Fired. She got fired from another job. And the guy thought that she was going to work, but she wasn't. She was just at home cyberbullying their own daughter.
Frank Alvarez
And like he had found out that like they previously got evicted from a place. And then like he like, in hindsight looked back on it and he was just like, oh, like that's why, that's why we got evicted.
Joe Santagato
You weren't paying the bills.
Frank Alvarez
And just the level of like absolute, like there's no other way to describe it outside of just like severely mentally ill.
Joe Santagato
I mean, bro, like, I'm so confused obviously by the action, but why are you in the documentary being like. Yeah, and she also didn't really give an explanation. She also claims to that when the text message started, she's like, oh, that wasn't me. Then. Then I decided to pick it up.
Frank Alvarez
Which is an obvious lie.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, it's a lie. Like, like that's gonna soften the blow at any point. But like, what are you.
Frank Alvarez
Bro, you say her kid was like having breakdowns, didn't want to go to school. Like was like in the documentary openly speaking about, like, then I was having body image issues because she was fat. Shaming her daughter.
Joe Santagato
I think it was like a Munchausen's thing, which they had said.
Frank Alvarez
They said it in there.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, I'm gonna bully my daughter so that she needs me and I can like help her. And I'm trying to, I'm talking to the police. I'm trying to like. Because she was very active in trying to find out who it was sending the fucking text messages. Like, you're flat ass and your fucking 15 year old boyfriend loves me or whatever the fuck.
Frank Alvarez
Like, I just can't. Like, yes, I know they chalked it up to Munchausens, which makes sense. Makes sense. But like the idea of like causing your child pain to think that you're gonna come in and like make them feel better. Like, it doesn't, it just doesn't compute. And maybe it's because I'm not a psychopath like this. You don't have Munchausens, I don't have Munchausens. But like, and to be fair, I.
Joe Santagato
Love that name, by the way.
Frank Alvarez
It's a great sounding name. Sounds delicious.
Joe Santagato
God, I love the Munchausen.
Frank Alvarez
It sounds really good.
Joe Santagato
I think that we talked about it before. Munchausen's. Great name for like a German bar.
Frank Alvarez
Oh my God. Are you kidding me? I mean, if you're going to ask me, my favorite non existing sandwich. Oh, it's a Munch House.
Joe Santagato
It's a Munch House. Or it's kind of like an appetizer. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, we'll get all the Munchausens.
Frank Alvarez
Or like. No. Yes. Yeah, like how you go to Italian restaurants and they're not called appetizers, they're called antipasto.
Joe Santagato
Going to do an entre entree and then we're going to do all of the Munchause.
Frank Alvarez
Just like whatever's on the Munchausen list, just give us one of each.
Joe Santagato
How many Munchausens do you suggest for a group of five?
Frank Alvarez
Or it would be like the name of like a, a Dutch brothel. Like come on in. You can come and see all the women that we have here at the Munchausen. Yeah, you know, it's the houses of Munching.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. So it's unfortunate that it's, you know, it's named after something that's.
Frank Alvarez
That's very good sounding word. It's a bad, bad thing.
Joe Santagato
It's a bad disease in practice.
Frank Alvarez
But it's a good word. It's a bad word. I, I cannot.
Joe Santagato
You know what's weird too? Sorry. Asperger's also sounds like a good place.
Frank Alvarez
Yes.
Joe Santagato
You know what I mean?
Frank Alvarez
Like, like a good name for a restaurant.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, like a, like a burger joint. Yeah, come on down the Asperger's.
Frank Alvarez
Like if it was just like the opposite of Hooters. Like, you know how Hooters was like for tits if it was like a burger joint but for ass, for asses, it'd be like.
Joe Santagato
Well, that would just be ass burgers.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. I mean, but they can. So they don't put the word ass on a restaurant. They can just do the 1s.
Joe Santagato
Right.
Frank Alvarez
I mean, isn't there a P in there? There is asp.
Ant
So what would like Medium rare be.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, you want to get. I don't even know what question you've already moved on to like the menu breakdown.
Joe Santagato
You want to know the temperature of the meat. What do you mean by what would it be?
Ant
Are we talking about a burger place or an ass place?
Joe Santagato
It's a. Both.
Ant
Yeah. So what would medium rare be on the ass side?
Frank Alvarez
I don't even understand why you're asking.
Joe Santagato
I almost understand this woman texting her daughter more than I understand what you're trying to say.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, you're speaking a completely different language right now. That doesn't make any sense.
Joe Santagato
What would medium rare be? I. I. Medium rare.
Frank Alvarez
I think that's what we. He wants it to be called like big and jiggly butt or something like that. Like he'd be like, let me get the, let me get the. The as burger extra jiggly, please.
Joe Santagato
I don't know.
Ant
Yeah, all right, my bad.
Frank Alvarez
Extra poop.
Joe Santagato
I.
Frank Alvarez
What are we doing?
Joe Santagato
I don't know anymore.
Frank Alvarez
What are we doing?
Joe Santagato
Anyway, there was just to be clear.
Frank Alvarez
We don't like the like fact that this woman had like severe Munchausens, but the word is saying. I just want to make sure because sometimes you get clicked out of.
Joe Santagato
There is nothing I love more than Munch houses. I love when people have, I mean.
Frank Alvarez
You know, people clip these things out of context. Let's make sure we put that there. No, it, it was, it was wild to watch.
Joe Santagato
God, I love a good Munch housing's case.
Frank Alvarez
It was just wild to watch like sad dude it unfold and then like the seeing basically. Because then the dad gets home and like this young girl is sitting there watching her parents just like in real time divorce.
Joe Santagato
Honestly, the dad did like probably the best thing you could. He was like very obviously taken aback and was just like, you need to leave. He's like, call your parents, they're going to come pick you up. Like just get away and like, you know, whatever. And he kind of confronted her. Confronted. He confronted her and was just saying all this and I, I mean I just felt bad for her, their daughter. Cuz she's just sitting there like, what is going on? Didn't say a word. Was just kind of sitting there, kind.
Frank Alvarez
Of a G about it.
Joe Santagato
Honestly, just sitting there. Like, this is so confusing. Like, didn't cry, didn't really ask any question.
Frank Alvarez
She's literally shocked. Yeah, she's. Her brain is trying to compute the protect her protector, the person that brought her into this world being the person that has dragged her through hell. For the last 18 months, bro.
Joe Santagato
If that's me and I'm finding that out, I'm fucking picking my mom up and giving her a tombstone.
Frank Alvarez
Boom.
Joe Santagato
Right on your head.
Frank Alvarez
Remember, Remember when. Remember when Shrek spins the guy?
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
You know, like the. The guy in the nights thing. That's what I'm doing to my. Either one of my parents.
Joe Santagato
What do you do in that situation?
Ant
I don't.
Frank Alvarez
I honestly think that both the. The father and the daughter's reaction was like, should be the template for if something like this were to happen. Because, like, yeah, both of them kept it calm, cool. They didn't blow up. Bro, if I'm the lot of cops.
Joe Santagato
There, to be fair, fair.
Frank Alvarez
Fair.
Joe Santagato
I would have thrown a chair.
Frank Alvarez
I'm letting you know if I'm. That if. If I were to find out that my partner did this to one of my children.
Joe Santagato
Crazy.
Frank Alvarez
I am putting on a show of. Of verbal, like, you know, a verbal show. Have you ever seen Brooklyn Nine Nine?
Joe Santagato
No.
Frank Alvarez
Have you seen Brooklyn Nine Nine?
Ant
Of course.
Frank Alvarez
Remember the scene where. Where Rosa tells Captain Holt him and his husband need a bone?
Ant
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
He's like Bo. Like, he's just screaming for like, basically like in a cutaway gag for like three minutes. I would fucking lose my mind. Yeah, it would be a show that would be.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, that would be a toughy. Honestly, I don't know why you need text messages like all you can. If you want to do that to your child, do it normally and be a dad and do it in.
Frank Alvarez
In person. Yes. Be it. Be a man. It's.
Joe Santagato
Don't have Munchausen. Just be not good face housing.
Frank Alvarez
You know, like, don'. Don't go behind there right in your face housing. Yeah, like, you know, be. Be what a real parent did, you know, Munch house. This didn't exist in this in the 50s because they were doing it to their face. You know. Also I'm letting you know right now, God bless the daughter in that situation because the like, aftermath of it, she's just like, you know, I'm not allowed to see my mom, but I want to keep a relationship with her.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Yo, I am becoming the meanest little bitch to my parent. If I found out that was them, they'd be like, honey, I'm in prison. I miss you. I'd write back like, you dirty. You know what I mean? Like, I am going full. There is, I think, a level of like, criminality like with this situation that like, you're allowed to be a little petty back.
Joe Santagato
I feel like you know, because I was thinking about that too where she was saying that she wants to see her parent and you know, whatever. I think that she probably understands that this is like an illness. Like this woman is sick, bro.
Frank Alvarez
But at 16 to have.
Joe Santagato
I agree, I agree. Emotional maturity.
Frank Alvarez
Yes.
Joe Santagato
To say that. Yeah. And maybe it's not as purposeful as that. And it's just like that's my mom. And I feel like I'm missing a parent, which isn't great.
Frank Alvarez
But here's my mentality as a 33 year old man.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Definitely not in any way mentally, physically, emotionally, a 16 year old girl.
Joe Santagato
Thanks for clearing that up.
Frank Alvarez
The. Is that. What the fuck was that? Sometimes maybe, you know, I don't know, like in my mind at that moment, that person is no longer my mom and has not been my mom for 18 months. I'm serious. Like, and that's me being really, really honest. Like I, I am finding out about myself. I have a, like a level that like or, or, or a barrier or a line that once it gets crossed, there's almost in very few instances, any point of return if I were to find out that one of my parents, the people that like are supposed to be my protectors, my comforters, like they are supposed to be the my, they guide me through life and like teach me right from wrong. If that's what my mom or my father is doing to me, they're no longer my parent. I'm like, oh, I'm, I'm basically an orphan at this point in time because they have done something that has just completely broken. And yes, I understand there's a level of, you know, like they are in, in ways, she is in ways a victim of her mental health. And to be fair, she talked about some trauma that she's had to relive. I just think that as a person, I don't know how I could ever heal from that if that were one of my parents.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, I guess it just, it depends on like, you know, I think, I.
Ant
Think it also kind of not softens the blow, but when it's coming from one number, I feel like it's easy to brush off like the parents talking about it too. It's like, oh, this is just some crazy person. But when it's like some people get into things with their whole school is now like insulting them and that's when it gets a little scary in terms of like the repercussions of that.
Frank Alvarez
Well, bro, she was like threatening physical harm against her point. She was like, I'm going To find you and we're going to kill you. Like, okay.
Joe Santagato
Well, I do agree, though, that would probably feel worse because you could talk. Because I think that, I mean, I'm also fudgeing old. But, like, if I was getting text messages like that from a number that was clearly one person, I believe this person's not trying to get a rise out of me.
Ant
Yeah.
Joe Santagato
And I would just continue to block the numbers. She kept making new numbers up.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. Like, that's. That's the part of it.
Joe Santagato
If it was 30 people, that would feel more like everyone's against me. There's no way out type of thing.
Ant
That's when the bad things happen.
Joe Santagato
Like, I mean, the bad things happen.
Ant
On way less than that. But, yeah, I feel like, as even the parents, because she knows when it's happening. I also didn't see it, but it's easier to mentally, like, give advice, to brush off one person than like, something went wrong in your whole school that we've seen happen at some points where.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, it's just tough to be a young person and realize, like, you. You get to the point where you're like, you find out that, oh, my mom is the one that's been harassing me for the last 18 months. Yeah. And there's a lot there that she probably doesn't understand about, like, why that, like, obviously she knows why it's wrong and it's, like, confusing. Like, why would my mom be the one doing this to me? And if she's, like, emotionally aware and mature enough at 16 or whatever the old she is, to realize that, like, the end goal, like her, her mom is just, like, insanely flawed. Like, at the end of the day, her mom just wanted her daughter to want her and was willing to do what, like, insanely selfish to be like, I'm going to bully this girl so that she desperately wants me.
Frank Alvarez
I just think, like, at every point in every person's life, to some degree, some is, like, this situation significantly worse. Like, each child has, like, a bit of an awakening where they learn more about their parents. And like, oh, these are. These are human beings that are flawed, you know, because you grow up and it's just like your mom or your dad. Are these, like, untouchable, like, heroes in your life? And then eventually, at certain points in time, you have to grapple with the fact, like, oh, these are just normal people. It's. It's just a different. Like, there's a shift in a mentality. She had to do that in the most extreme circumstance. And, like, How. Honestly, like, I could see it being like, yo, you're still a person. You helped raise me. But, like, you're, like, you're over there now, and I'm over here, and we will never have a relationship again.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. I mean, I don't think that you can go back to.
Frank Alvarez
And I'm not even talking about because of, like, the legal. Like, she's not legally allowed to see.
Joe Santagato
Her daughter, but, like, nah, there's.
Frank Alvarez
There's.
Joe Santagato
There's walls that are kind of put up. Like, if you're gonna kick down the wall and not be, like, a mother in the way that you're supposed to be a mother, then, like, you can't go back to being that. Like, there's no way that someone could let you. Like, you could still be in somebody's life if you've wronged them before, but you can't go back to what you were. What you were supposed to be. So. Yeah, that's. That I can. I imagine, is never gonna happen.
Ant
Yeah. She gave that up 18 months ago.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. Once you started. Once you started talking about cream.
Ant
Yeah.
Joe Santagato
Jail, my guy.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. You're going.
Ant
So many broken hands.
Frank Alvarez
There are so many. So many, like, layers. What happened to that?
Joe Santagato
What happened to that?
Frank Alvarez
What we can't.
Joe Santagato
Like, you know what I mean? Like, if you're sending text messages to your daughter and, like, you're bullying her and tell her she should kill herself, I get it. You got to go to jail. But we can't break your hand.
Ant
That's what I'm saying. Like, it's just.
Joe Santagato
Let's take a meat cleaver to your head. Not a cleaver.
Frank Alvarez
Like a.
Joe Santagato
Like a tenderizer.
Frank Alvarez
You know what I mean? I mean, there's. There's. There's a dozen reasons.
Joe Santagato
Robbie's code.
Frank Alvarez
Eye for an eye. Yes. That is what our criminal justice.
Joe Santagato
With your right hand, we smash it with a tenderizer.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. But sometimes. Sometimes, if the crime does not fit the punishment, the punishment will fit the. Well, if the punishment does not fit the crime, the crime will fit the punishment. So, like, what is going to stop? Because these people are obviously not thinking logically. So what is going to stop someone from saying, like, yo, I'm gonna get a severe punishment. I might as well just make it as bad as it could possibly be.
Ant
Oh, well, no, we're saying after the fact.
Frank Alvarez
I think also guess what happens. Guess what happens when you break my hand. If I'm that sick, I'll just let my hand heal and do it again.
Joe Santagato
If you do it Then it gets cut off.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah.
Ant
If you do it again.
Frank Alvarez
Okay, watch this. Watch this.
Joe Santagato
Okay, we're watching.
Ant
Okay.
Frank Alvarez
Hey, Siri.
Joe Santagato
Oh. Oh, you want to play that game?
Ant
Okay.
Joe Santagato
Tongos now. Good luck talking. Now maybe I pick your lips. You walk around like this.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, she was. Anyway, did you see her?
Joe Santagato
Hey. Anyway, that's our whole bit on Munchausens. Thanks for having a good night.
Frank Alvarez
Have a good night, everyone. Thank you. You've been a great crowd. Maybe we should get to the sponsors for today. Munch on some sponsors.
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Goes down smooth. You're looking at it right here.
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Show them your curtain.
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Joe Santagato
Why are you whispering physically?
Frank Alvarez
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Joe Santagato
Yeah, I saw some people posting that.
Frank Alvarez
It was on my flight. I was on my. That was the. The day it happened was the day I was coming back. We were coming back from Vegas, threw it on. And I, I did. I did the thing where I like, I, I. I wanted to see if they would let me do an announcement, but it was 7am and they didn't let me do an announcement.
Joe Santagato
What, you were gonna go to the front of the plane, be like, hey, I'm on your back of your.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, but they didn't. They didn't.
Joe Santagato
Did you actually do that? Are you joking?
Frank Alvarez
No, I would. Yeah.
Joe Santagato
That doesn't, like, make you feel weird?
Frank Alvarez
Oh, it does. That's why I didn't do it. That's why you just said they didn't let you. They wouldn't have let me, and I wouldn't have done it.
Joe Santagato
Oh.
Frank Alvarez
So it was also, like, if it. Honestly, I would have been more inclined if it was, like, a 4pm flight.
Joe Santagato
Hey, everyone. My name's Frank Alvarez from the basement yard, and it is now available on the back of United.
Frank Alvarez
Damien Screen, I thought. But no, I. I chickened out.
Joe Santagato
You know, Shut up.
Frank Alvarez
I chickened out. But also, like, they don't let people just, like, make announcements on planes. It's a very controlled area, dude.
Joe Santagato
They should. Oh, my God. Our flight. That woman. I was like, bro, yo, she talked. I'm not. Yo, I'm not exaggerating at all. 20 minutes straight, yo. 20 minutes.
Frank Alvarez
And like. 20 minutes. 20 minutes. It was 2 0. Yes. Good job.
Joe Santagato
She just went off about, like, a credit card. It was on a Frontier flight, bro.
Frank Alvarez
Going off.
Joe Santagato
I was like, someone throw a tomato?
Frank Alvarez
Listen, she was kind. Yeah. She was nice and respectful. But, like, she's like, all right, we're starting our descent, so if you need to get up and use the bathroom, use it now. But let me talk to you for 20 minutes. You know how long it was taking for us to get to land? 20 minutes?
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Like there was the whole time. So I was waiting for her to stop to then go to the bathroom. I just got up. I. I couldn't. I couldn't do.
Joe Santagato
I've never heard something like that before, ever. It was about a credit card that they have and like all this stuff. And it wasn't like. Like, she was definitely extending the thing. Like, she was going off about it. I was like, I can't believe she's still going here.
Frank Alvarez
Like, she was doing the thing where she was like, working it into the conversation. She was just like. Do you know that? Like.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, and.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, and I was just. And like. Was like, really, like, hamming it up.
Joe Santagato
She's auditioned for. She.
Frank Alvarez
She must have known that Joe Santigado was on the plane. She must have known.
Joe Santagato
Oh, you know what? She probably knew that you were on the plane because you probably got on that one. You're like, hey, what's up? I'm Frank.
Frank Alvarez
No, I was there. You were sitting next to behind me. I chickened out, Joey. I wasn't gonna do it because I don't. I like my anonymity.
Joe Santagato
Anonymity?
Frank Alvarez
I sit there with my hat. Hello.
Joe Santagato
Wow. So famous. Gotta hide my face.
Frank Alvarez
No.
Joe Santagato
Nobody talks.
Frank Alvarez
It's too early. What was that? That wasn't pulled strings, brother. That wasn't pulling strings, my brother. Yeah, I got away. I found a way out of it. I made it look like you were pantomiming, having a dick in your face.
Joe Santagato
Appreciate you doing that.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. No. So that woman was. It was crazy how much he talked. It was.
Joe Santagato
It was. It was a lot.
Frank Alvarez
And you know what?
Joe Santagato
God bless her.
Frank Alvarez
Good for her. It's a skill to talk for 20 minutes.
Ant
Well, speaking of travel, I have a question.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, boy.
Ant
You guys want.
Frank Alvarez
Here comes Ant. Question.
Ant
And question.
Joe Santagato
And question of the day.
Frank Alvarez
What the hell was that? Was that a car and a plane at the same time?
Joe Santagato
And I shot guns.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah.
Joe Santagato
What am I doing?
Frank Alvarez
We should have like a. Like a. And question. He's got some questions and they are from him.
Joe Santagato
What do you got?
Ant
It's more of a scenario. So you get $5 million, but you must randomly generate a US state and you have to walk there.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, yeah, I'm doing that. Easy.
Joe Santagato
Okay.
Ant
Would you. Would do that, Would you?
Frank Alvarez
I get.
Joe Santagato
If it's in New York, I just get it.
Ant
You just get it.
Frank Alvarez
Nice. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I'll do that. But also, can I. Do I get the money after the completion of the walk or, like. Yeah, can I get it to, like, help me with, like, lodging?
Ant
No, no. After the complet. Completion of the walk.
Joe Santagato
Lodging.
Frank Alvarez
Well, yeah, I'm gonna need to stop.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. What do you have, zero dollars?
Frank Alvarez
No, but I imagine that a walk, potentially 3,000 miles, is gonna cost a couple dollars.
Joe Santagato
Dude, put it on a credit card. Dude, you're getting five mil at the end of this thing.
Frank Alvarez
Well, you're gonna need new shoes. You're gonna need food.
Joe Santagato
You're gonna. Shoes?
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. You think your. Your shoes will. You'll be able to wear the same shoes the whole time? No, they'll wear out and break.
Joe Santagato
I mean, maybe one other pair of shoes.
Ant
So we're all saying yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Yes.
Ant
So I have a state generator, so you want to see how far you have to walk.
Frank Alvarez
You know it's gonna happen. You know it's gonna happen, right? He's gonna get New York, you're gonna get New Jersey, and I'm gonna get Hawaii.
Ant
If you get Hawaii, I don't think you can do it.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, Hawaii.
Frank Alvarez
You just have to. I would not. Yeah, I mean, I would just die. I feel like the money.
Ant
You would still have to walk the first.
Frank Alvarez
Can you just take Hawaii out?
Ant
No. No.
Joe Santagato
Or how.
Frank Alvarez
That's part of it.
Joe Santagato
If you do Hawaii, then you have to get to California, and then you have to do whatever the distance is in miles from California to Hawaii back the other way.
Ant
Okay, so.
Frank Alvarez
So you just need to walk.
Joe Santagato
It's also a no, though. Like, I'm not doing that.
Frank Alvarez
If. Well, no, that I would do. As long as I'm not over the open ocean, I'm fine.
Ant
I feel like if you get Hawaii, you have to walk as close as you can get to it. But then you just lose.
Frank Alvarez
No, then you just lose. I was worried you were gonna say, like, you walk as close as you can get, and then you have to take, like, a kayak or a rowboat the rest of the way.
Joe Santagato
Chill, dude.
Ant
Yeah, I don't think you'd be able to do that.
Frank Alvarez
I know physically, I will take my chances with Hawaii.
Ant
So who wants to go first?
Frank Alvarez
Well, let's let Joey go first, because we know he's going to get a great one. Oh, this is a cool one.
Ant
All right, so. So I got a wheel here. Wheel Estates.
Frank Alvarez
Yes, we see that. Wheel Estates.
Ant
So Joe's going first, and then we could do Google Maps, see how far it takes.
Joe Santagato
I'll pull up the Google Maps.
Ant
All right, you got the Google Maps. Okay.
Frank Alvarez
Okay, go.
Ant
Ready? Here we go.
Joe Santagato
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Frank Alvarez
Oh my God.
Joe Santagato
I just have to get into the state. I don't have to go to like the center.
Ant
We should probably do center, right?
Joe Santagato
Oh my.
Frank Alvarez
You said walk to the state.
Ant
Okay, to the border of the state.
Joe Santagato
Fine.
Ant
All right, ready this for Joe.
Frank Alvarez
Fuck. Oh no, Joey's gonna get a good one. I'm telling you. I know it. Oh, Wisconsin.
Joe Santagato
That's so bad. It was about to be West Virginia, which isn't bad.
Frank Alvarez
That's pretty far, honestly, because you got to go through Pennsylvania, which. Nothing, brother. That's all nothing. And then you got to go Ohio and then you got to cut through Illinois and then up into Wisconsin.
Joe Santagato
Wisconsin. First of all, there's no walking.
Frank Alvarez
There's no walking. I mean, there is water. You can just walk along the highway.
Joe Santagato
Holy shit.
Frank Alvarez
Dude.
Joe Santagato
The drive is, is a thousand miles, like 998.
Frank Alvarez
So let's see. If you walk at an average of 3 miles per hour, that's going to take 333 hours. If you stop. If you did it non stop.
Joe Santagato
Wait, what?
Frank Alvarez
Three. If you walk at an average pace of 3 miles per hour.
Ant
I have it. I have how long it would take to walk it. So Joe, to get your 5 million, it would take 319 hours to walk it.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, I wasn't that far off. I said 333. But that's if you did non stop.
Ant
Yeah, that's non stop.
Joe Santagato
That ain't happening.
Frank Alvarez
Which. So like if you walk for an average of 12 hours at miles a day. 12 hours a day. You know what's that? 300. 312 divided by 12. What?
Joe Santagato
This isn't good for us.
Frank Alvarez
319 divided by 319 divided by 12.
Ant
Which is 26 and a half days.
Frank Alvarez
So it would take me like a month.
Ant
A month.
Joe Santagato
A month and a half.
Frank Alvarez
Yo, hear me out.
Joe Santagato
I'm out. It would be fun too.
Frank Alvarez
That's not that bad. Dude.
Joe Santagato
That's not a bad walk either.
Frank Alvarez
That's a beautiful walk. Probably also sketchy walk. Probably.
Joe Santagato
It's not that sketchy. It's mostly Pennsylvania. You get to Ohio, like right near Cleveland.
Ant
Damn. It didn't seem as far as it.
Frank Alvarez
You have to go do walk through.
Joe Santagato
South Chicago, which is not great.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, that would be a problem. Or I guess this path here has.
Ant
You walking through Canada.
Joe Santagato
Through Canada.
Frank Alvarez
Up and around.
Ant
Yeah, you go up and around.
Joe Santagato
Oh, like up to.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. But then you got to walk through the bumble fucking of New York, which you do.
Ant
Yes.
Frank Alvarez
That's not nice either. There's also.
Ant
Okay. So that would take you about. If you walk 12 hours a day. About a month. It would take you about a month.
Joe Santagato
That's not bad.
Frank Alvarez
That's not too bad, dude.
Joe Santagato
And like, five million a month, bro. Sign me up.
Frank Alvarez
That's also. If you walked every day. There was nothing in here about the fact, like, you could take a day off, which I would.
Joe Santagato
You know, I would also pay people to come with me, so I'm not.
Frank Alvarez
Like, oh, yeah, that's right. Well, what more do you need? I feel like ant should go next.
Ant
I go next.
Frank Alvarez
That's the respectful thing.
Ant
Okay, so I'm taking it, obviously.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Well, we know. We didn't. We knew that.
Joe Santagato
We know you would swim to Hawaii. Yeah.
Ant
Okay.
Frank Alvarez
You do it for nothing.
Ant
I'm looking for a New York.
Frank Alvarez
We know you're looking for a New York.
Joe Santagato
We're all looking for a New York. Or, like, a Connecticut. Connecticut would take an hour.
Ant
Why am I nervous?
Frank Alvarez
Connecticut would take a full day. Oh, no, no, no.
Joe Santagato
Not good.
Frank Alvarez
No, no. Nebraska. Nevada, brother.
Joe Santagato
You're the desert.
Frank Alvarez
You going through the desi.
Ant
You know what, that 5 mil at the end of it, right to Vegas.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, just put it on black. Right to Vegas. Well, then you'd have to walk into. From Nevada, like, the border of Nevada into Vegas. Dude. That's a bad one.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, That's a horrific one.
Frank Alvarez
That's what, 2,000 miles? It's.
Ant
So this. This walk is going to take 938 hours.
Frank Alvarez
That's triple the time that it took. Literally triple the time it took. You said take you three months.
Ant
Take me three.
Joe Santagato
This is 2800 miles. It says, like, by car that I got.
Ant
I don't think we could get.
Frank Alvarez
I got to be honest, though.
Joe Santagato
That's bad.
Frank Alvarez
That's. Yes, it's tough.
Joe Santagato
Three months.
Ant
It's three months of content, I guess, now.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, I mean, you'd be set for a whole year with content. Really? Just film the whole thing or irl stream it. You'll make double that on fucking whatever you're doing on kick.
Ant
No, I can't irl stream because then people try to find me, like, probably halfway through. Not great.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Well, what's gonna happen? You don't have the money yet. You're poor.
Joe Santagato
You will, though.
Ant
Sure.
Joe Santagato
You will have the money.
Frank Alvarez
All right. It's my time.
Ant
I was really hoping Frankie would get a Nevada.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, no, it's all right. I'm gonna get a washing. Here's what I think I'm gonna get Alaska.
Joe Santagato
I think I'M gonna get a good one.
Frank Alvarez
I hope I get a good one.
Joe Santagato
I. I'm gonna guess that you get, like, something in the Northeast.
Frank Alvarez
I'm gonna say. I think. My honest guess is I think I'm gonna get Iowa.
Joe Santagato
Which. It wouldn't be bad.
Frank Alvarez
Okay. I mean.
Ant
Ready?
Frank Alvarez
It's not close.
Joe Santagato
Here we go. What's Frank got?
Ant
This the state you're walking to?
Frank Alvarez
This is the state I'm walking to. Let's see. I'm not even looking at the name.
Joe Santagato
Bama.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, I might not. I might.
Joe Santagato
Alabama.
Frank Alvarez
There's some things about me. I might not make it there.
Joe Santagato
Alabama. That's probably closer than mine.
Frank Alvarez
I mean, it's. No, because it's down south. It's south and west.
Ant
It's about the same.
Frank Alvarez
3.
Joe Santagato
About the same.
Ant
Like a little over a thousand 388 hours. So about a month as well.
Frank Alvarez
My guys. I might not make it. They might see me and be like, who's this Spanish boy walking down here? Roll tight.
Joe Santagato
Did you know you.
Frank Alvarez
Who the hell is this?
Ant
Did you. How close you were to Alaska?
Frank Alvarez
No. Was I. Was I really?
Joe Santagato
The next one?
Ant
It was the one right before it. Like, you just clipped it.
Frank Alvarez
Alaska, I mean, honestly, that would be beautiful, but I would die by bear. There's fucking in the Yukon. There's a ton of bear. Let's do one more. Let's do one more.
Ant
For who? For who?
Frank Alvarez
For all of us. Really quick. Joey, go.
Joe Santagato
Do we get a choice of these two?
Frank Alvarez
No.
Ant
I thought this would be like.
Frank Alvarez
If you walk from that one to this one, you get another five mil.
Joe Santagato
Done. No, I got Hawaii.
Frank Alvarez
You said done. You said done. That's Hawaii state flag.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, well, this is news to me.
Frank Alvarez
Why is that their state flag? That can't be right. It's literally double British.
Ant
There is no route found to Hawaii.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, we know that.
Ant
Just letting you know.
Frank Alvarez
So what would you do? Would you walk the half to, like, do the distance back or would you.
Ant
I don't do it. I don't know how far it is.
Frank Alvarez
You would just lose the five mil?
Joe Santagato
Yep. I think if I had Nevada, I probably wouldn't do that. Really?
Frank Alvarez
I would do 5 mil.
Ant
I'd do it.
Frank Alvarez
Think of the endorsements you'd also get.
Joe Santagato
Why do you think you would just get endorsed?
Frank Alvarez
I don't know. People like stuff like that.
Joe Santagato
You would get 5 million. Would you walk to Nevada?
Ant
We could do it again?
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. For five mil? Yes.
Joe Santagato
You'd walk to Nevada?
Frank Alvarez
Sure.
Joe Santagato
Why you offering not 5 mil, but now I'm thinking, like, what can we get them for?
Ant
Okay.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, yeah. Well, now that we know it's five mil, I'm not taking a penny under five miles.
Joe Santagato
All right?
Ant
I mean, we're.
Joe Santagato
This is a hypothetical. We're having fun.
Ant
Well, how much you offering?
Joe Santagato
You're not going anywhere.
Ant
He wants me here.
Frank Alvarez
Me, go. Why'd you take Alabama out?
Joe Santagato
Everything we've done, it removes Kentucky. That's an easy one.
Frank Alvarez
That's not too bad. That's right under Ohio, West Virginia area.
Joe Santagato
That's an easy one.
Ant
So I have to. I just essentially have to walk back for.
Joe Santagato
Bro. Honestly, walking to Kentucky would suck, too. And it's, like, the easiest one we've got.
Frank Alvarez
Isn't that because it's all hills? Like the Appalachian Mountains and stuff like that?
Joe Santagato
I'm talking about the miles.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. I mean, yes, walking to New Jersey would suck, Joey.
Joe Santagato
That's what I said. What he said is before.
Ant
Yeah, but I mean, for five mil, you do that.
Frank Alvarez
You could. I feel you could walk to Jersey in under five hours.
Ant
So a mil an hour. Kentucky is 270 hours through the tunnel.
Frank Alvarez
Just through the tunnel. Yeah.
Ant
And then. Last one for Frankie.
Frank Alvarez
Yes.
Ant
I don't think we could get worse in Hawaii, so.
Frank Alvarez
No, I mean, literally, physically, it cannot get worse than that.
Joe Santagato
Georgia, Florida fire.
Frank Alvarez
Florida fire.
Ant
Oh, that one made a noise.
Joe Santagato
That one. You could just take I95. You take it all the way down.
Frank Alvarez
No, but you got to walk through some. There's some spots you got to walk through in there, too.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, dude, I'm sure there's spots everywhere. You gotta walk through and be afraid.
Frank Alvarez
Five mil, though.
Joe Santagato
I think once you get past, like. I think that. Oh, God. I mean, I would do a month. I could walk for a month and get five million. Three months. I'd be like, bro, your life, three months is walking.
Frank Alvarez
I think about what you need. I would need a motivating factor. So if you were to say, like.
Joe Santagato
All right, beckon $5 million.
Ant
Yeah. That's the motivating.
Joe Santagato
That's the motivation.
Frank Alvarez
No, I would need something more than that. Like my family.
Joe Santagato
What?
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. Like, if it was just like, you get the money and your kids are there with Becca, you know, they're gonna make your. Because look at what he says in the song. I would walk 500 miles, and then I would walk 500.
Joe Santagato
Wait, are you saying they need to be at the end?
Frank Alvarez
Yeah.
Joe Santagato
Okay. But that would motivate me still the.
Frank Alvarez
Time, but that still motivate me more. If it was just the money, I'd be like, all right, it's just the money. And then it's like, you don't have to live there.
Joe Santagato
You can go right back as soon as you fly back.
Frank Alvarez
But, like, I. I don't know.
Joe Santagato
You still the time away. It's still three months.
Frank Alvarez
That's a lot of time.
Ant
I'm doing it.
Frank Alvarez
Or like, can they follow me? I'll walk. But they can make your children follow you. Not, like, walking. I'm saying, like, they could be in, like, an rv.
Joe Santagato
Sure, I guess. No, no, no, no. This is part of why it's hard.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, no, no. The reason it's hard is because of the distance, not because of the isolation.
Joe Santagato
I'm saying you just said you'd pay.
Frank Alvarez
For people to come with you.
Joe Santagato
I did say that.
Frank Alvarez
So why can't I. I do it with you?
Joe Santagato
I wouldn't. I don't know why I sneeze like that.
Frank Alvarez
Why are you Dracula?
Joe Santagato
That one snuck up on me. I'm not gonna lie.
Frank Alvarez
All right, now do it one more time. No. Whatever the state is, they're trying to kill you.
Joe Santagato
What?
Frank Alvarez
Whatever the state is, they're trying to kill you.
Joe Santagato
What does that mean?
Frank Alvarez
Like, if it's Texas, you're in trouble.
Joe Santagato
Are you just talking about in general? Nothing to do with what we're talking about. Yeah, don't. Don't go down this road.
Frank Alvarez
Okay. Thank you. What is the scariest state if you had a fist fight? Like, if you saw. You ever see those things where it was just like. You ever see those things where it was just like. We had AI come up with. I didn't do it. We had AI come with a. Like a. A mascot for each state.
Joe Santagato
No.
Frank Alvarez
And it's like a picture of, like, what it would look like. You never seen those?
Ant
I've seen that.
Frank Alvarez
Some of those are cool looking. And it's just like, what do you think of them would be, like, the scariest one to fight? I think it's Texas. Because of the guns.
Joe Santagato
Sure.
Frank Alvarez
I imagine Florida too, because they're just on, like, bath salts and meth.
Joe Santagato
That was a long time ago.
Ant
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
That's all still around. I'm sure they are still. There's still a pretty niche cool thing that. Not cool. Definitely not cool. But, like, people were.
Joe Santagato
They were pretty cool.
Frank Alvarez
I'll be honest with you. When I heard. When I heard bath salts, I was in college and I was just like. Like someone, like, I saw, like, they had him at, like, like, homegoods. I was just like, people smoking this. It's like. Like, Potpourri for your bath.
Joe Santagato
Did you give up, like, Epsom salt because you were like, oh, I want to get high.
Frank Alvarez
Give up Epsom salt. Like, it was a normal part of my routine.
Joe Santagato
It's pretty normal, right?
Ant
In winter.
Frank Alvarez
Wait, what?
Ant
Wait, what are we talking about?
Frank Alvarez
Epson salt.
Joe Santagato
What are you talking.
Frank Alvarez
You guys using Epsom salt enough that it was a normal part? You're putting Epsom salt on your driveway.
Ant
Isn't that what you. It's not.
Frank Alvarez
No, that's rock salt. Epsom salt is like, you, like, take bats in it and, like, it's, like, relaxing.
Joe Santagato
I don't know if it would work. Maybe it would work on snow. I have no idea.
Ant
If I just been bathing my driveway.
Frank Alvarez
I mean. You've been bathing your driveway in rock salt? Yeah, Epsom salt.
Ant
Okay.
Frank Alvarez
Epsom salt is like magnesium sulfide or sulfate or something like that. What you're doing is, like, sodium penis paint or something, right?
Joe Santagato
You're throwing Epsom salt in your driveway. That's so funny.
Frank Alvarez
If you're there. I mean, maybe it does work.
Joe Santagato
I'm sure it does. I think it's just the salt part that you need, right?
Frank Alvarez
I don't know. Could you put table salt on it?
Ant
I worked.
Joe Santagato
It works.
Ant
It works. I've been doing all right. I've been doing all right. I could take a bath with the.
Frank Alvarez
Extra and I mean, you're also dumb. Like, you're also doing wrong. Yeah, you're. You're kind of a little off there.
Joe Santagato
I'm not a big fan of salting driveways. And I love it.
Frank Alvarez
It.
Joe Santagato
I don't like it.
Frank Alvarez
I love it so much. It's such, like, a dad thing to do. And then to hear the sound of, like, the salt crunching under your boot and between the ice or between the snow, it's so.
Joe Santagato
I just think it's, like, whack. I would rather, like, shovel it.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, but you also need to salt under the shoveling because then it melts and then freezes over.
Joe Santagato
I know. I just don't like the residual, like, salt.
Frank Alvarez
I mean, it's bad for pets. Like, you need to get pet specific stuff in order to, like, so they, like, are okay.
Joe Santagato
It also, like, everything just, like, has this, like, white dusty. I don't like that.
Frank Alvarez
I do hate, like, when it, like, a. Like an old, like, beat up car in the winter. It's just like, it looks like it's covered in, like, dried toothpaste or like.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. Or. Or like, sometimes people have, like, blue salt on their sidewalk, and I'M like, what is that, bro? You know what I hate? And I don't know why I hate this so much. And I get it. It's like, good. But I fucking hate it when I go to someone's house and I go to their bathroom and their toilet water is fucking, like, blue. Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
Why do you hate that? They're clean.
Joe Santagato
I know, but it's like, what is this?
Frank Alvarez
They have a clean tablet in their. Their tank. I'll tell you this, I don't know what I did. I had one of those in my old house. Was gone after like, three flushes. I clearly did something wrong. I don't like it.
Joe Santagato
I don't like the blue water. I just. Why?
Frank Alvarez
Cuz then you piss and it comes green.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, I don't like that. I like that.
Frank Alvarez
I like looking out at it. I'm just like, yeah, I'm gonna make this all dirty and stinky with green with my piss.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, see, what are we talking? What are we doing?
Ant
I mean, he has something.
Frank Alvarez
He's got stuff. We all have something.
Ant
That's true.
Joe Santagato
Some more than others.
Frank Alvarez
Some as much as others. Maybe you're gonna tell me you don't, like, get hype to, like, play when you pee?
Joe Santagato
Go ahead. What the does that mean?
Frank Alvarez
Like, you go and like, it's like you're putting out a fire or something.
Joe Santagato
Or, like, I'll only do that if I start peeing and there's bubbles and I'm like, oh, I gotta make all these bubbles touch the whole layer of.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, now who's the crazy one that has something?
Joe Santagato
What was that?
Frank Alvarez
I'm reveling in it. I'm excited, you know. Oh, Frank. What? What? What? Frank what? Dracula over here. And you're looking at him dumbfounded, like, and now. And I. And then you're like, yeah, actually, you know what I do like to do that. I make a point. You think I'm stupid, Then you agree with it. Ipso facto, you're stupid.
Joe Santagato
You're big on the ipso facto lately also. I can't even say anything without you thinking I'm stupid.
Frank Alvarez
No, I know you're not stupid. I like to try. No, here's the thing, Joey.
Joe Santagato
Oh, here it comes.
Frank Alvarez
I like to create scenarios.
Joe Santagato
It's.
Frank Alvarez
I like to create scenarios.
Joe Santagato
Actually a nice thing.
Frank Alvarez
No, no, listen.
Joe Santagato
What you have is munch house.
Frank Alvarez
That's exactly. He's munching.
Joe Santagato
You're munching on my house.
Frank Alvarez
I'm housing your munch, babe.
Joe Santagato
Munching my house.
Frank Alvarez
I'm trying it like I want you to create scenarios where I call you stupid so then you feel stupid, so then I can tell you you're smart and you're like, oh, my God, Frankie, he's. I get it. Like, he's helping me feel smart now.
Joe Santagato
See, he's manipulating the audience. If you guys paying attention, listen, my.
Frank Alvarez
House is as munched a little bit. Big deal. We had a little bit too much. Doesn't love munching some houses. You know.
Joe Santagato
I don't like that blue toilet water bullshit, though.
Frank Alvarez
I'm pumped about blue toilet.
Joe Santagato
There's some stuff about people's bathrooms that I'm just like. I don't.
Frank Alvarez
What else. What else in bathrooms drives you up a wall? I'll say one cheap toilet paper.
Joe Santagato
Cheap toilet paper, bro. What is this? If I pull it and I could see through it. What are we doing here?
Frank Alvarez
Joey's got here in the studio. The toilet paper that has, like. It's like wiggles to, like, connect each piece. It's not like a normal perforation. It's like. And I was like, oh, what the hell am I wiping my ass with?
Joe Santagato
Artistic. Yeah, I don't like cushion seats.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, that's. That's very, like, 90s.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, I don't like.
Frank Alvarez
Although, hold on. Now I'm thinking about it.
Joe Santagato
I feel like I'm taking a shit at it. Like on a chair at a picnic or something.
Frank Alvarez
That doesn't sound miserable, dude.
Joe Santagato
Okay, I don't. I don't like that. I don't like that you don't like.
Frank Alvarez
You've already said you don't like heated seats.
Joe Santagato
Also, I don't mind them. I just don't like them in other people's houses. I'm okay with them in a hotel, but, like, in other people's houses, and I sit on a heated toilet seat and I'm like, someone just took a dump here. Like, that's what it feels like. You know what I mean? That's why I don't really, like, enjoy that. Also, it's 20, 25. We all need to get the toilet seats that you can slam and they don't shut, and they go. Because I'm over here taking hinges off my ass.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. Honestly, I can't tell you how many times I've, like, slammed a toilet seat. And it was like one of the, like, part of, like, the, like, faux wood ones.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
And that thing basically all but snaps in half.
Joe Santagato
Does your toilets, you do have this slow. Like, you slam and it goes.
Ant
Every floor, I have a different one. Like, in my Basement. I have the wood one. It's awful.
Frank Alvarez
I'll say. Wooden toilet seats.
Joe Santagato
Poverty.
Frank Alvarez
Every person watching this is going to their bathrooms, be like, oh, fuck, Joe. Just coldly poor.
Joe Santagato
The. The wooden toilet seats is like, obviously this hasn't been changed since 1990.
Frank Alvarez
Zero.
Ant
And you're right.
Frank Alvarez
19.
Ant
You'd be right.
Frank Alvarez
Zero. That's. We haven't reached that year yet, but go ahead.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, hate those. Wait, what other toilets? How is there four different kinds?
Ant
I have porcelain, one that doesn't do the slowdown, one that does do the slowdown, and then wooden. It goes in that order.
Frank Alvarez
Yo, honestly, I've been watching a lot of Shark Tank. Why have we not reinvented the toilet yet? Like, why are we still using the same archaic technology from fucking like, bro, it's a toilet. Get fun and inventive with it.
Joe Santagato
Dude, what do you want to shit in, like one of those straws? The fucking.
Frank Alvarez
No, but like something that's just a little more ergonomic than sitting down. And my fucking knees are at my chest and I'm like, you know, 18 inches off the ground and I'm like, oh, like, make it something that's a little more better. I'm not kidding. I would be pumped with a stand up toilet.
Joe Santagato
What do you mean?
Frank Alvarez
Hear me out. So you know how like urinals come out from the wall a little bit? Yeah, it's that. But a toilet and like you can just back your ass up to it and do your thing and then get out of there.
Joe Santagato
You want to drop your ass on.
Frank Alvarez
A urinal and I'm saying lean against it.
Joe Santagato
Lean against a urinal and let a shit rip.
Frank Alvarez
I'm not saying a urinal. Like it would be a toilet, but it would be just designed so like the bowl is like curved so you can just like lean. I know Americans love leaning all the.
Joe Santagato
Time, but why, but like, isn't sitting better than standing?
Frank Alvarez
Personally, I'd rather lean than have to get down and get up a bunch of times.
Joe Santagato
And also toilet seats are a bunch of times.
Frank Alvarez
I'm saying, like, whatever the amount of times you use the bathroom. Oh, you know, like, I, I'd rather it be like a lean situation. Like sitting down, standing up. It's not comfortable.
Joe Santagato
I don't think it needs to be all that. Sometimes when you walk into like a nice hotel. We were just in a nice hotel in Toronto, and you walk into the bathroom and all of a sudden the toilet jumps up and starts talking and opens its mouth like, hey, come in me. I'm like, I'm good on this.
Frank Alvarez
I do like the automatic it opens for me.
Joe Santagato
I don't like that.
Ant
You know, my pet peeve, actually in a hotel bathroom, it's when they orientate the room where the toilet is like right behind the bed. Do you know what I mean?
Joe Santagato
No.
Ant
Like, so the bed is up against this wall and then there's the bathroom and the toilet is on the side of the wall of the bed.
Frank Alvarez
Why does that. It shares a wall with the bed.
Ant
Shares a wall with the bed. Because you hear everything in that.
Frank Alvarez
I can't even recall that having ever happened to me where that. That would be like a. Like a thing just pet peeve of mine.
Ant
Like when the. When I. When I walk into a hotel room and the toilet is on the opposite wall of the bed, of the wall sharing the bed, I'm like, this a good. This is a good hotel room.
Frank Alvarez
So you like to watch the person come out the bathroom and just be like, what did you do in there, you filthy.
Joe Santagato
There's.
Ant
There's something.
Joe Santagato
There's something.
Ant
There's something. There's something in there.
Joe Santagato
There's nothing.
Frank Alvarez
There's something. There's nothing. It's like, what?
Joe Santagato
It's the same energy as you wanting to make the water.
Frank Alvarez
My energy. My energy is cool, calm, cool and dirty and filthy. No, no, no, no. No filth.
Joe Santagato
We do have some.
Frank Alvarez
Some more clean, calm, cool.
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Frank Alvarez
Beautiful.
Joe Santagato
Love that.
Frank Alvarez
Sorry, I.
Joe Santagato
You were being a little nothing there.
Frank Alvarez
I've been a nasty boy. I've been. I've been a nasty boy.
Joe Santagato
What's that?
Frank Alvarez
That's that song on TikTok. You were joking about me being nasty and I was making a joke about that song. Is this what it's gonna be for the remainder of this episode? You guys just hanging me out to dry?
Joe Santagato
Hanging you out to dry?
Frank Alvarez
You guys are just hanging me out to dry. You're just taking me soaking wet and you're just draining me of all of it.
Joe Santagato
Now you see, again, this is.
Frank Alvarez
What is it?
Joe Santagato
You keep doing it.
Frank Alvarez
I'm not doing anything. You guys are hanging me out to dry. I'm just here just trying to be fun and have fun. Do the show. The Basement Yard podcast with Joe and Frank.
Joe Santagato
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Frank Alvarez
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Joe Santagato
Have a happy Thursday and think it over.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, at Squarespace.
Joe Santagato
Right? I also. When you said hanging out to dry, I started thinking about this for some reason. I don't know if this is weird or not, but I. I'm trying to think of, like, how it makes me feel. But there's a feeling that I get when I see a clothesline that I just love. Like, it makes me feel like at peace to see a clothesline.
Frank Alvarez
Okay. So fucking yes. But first, I don't know why. I guess it's just my 21st century brain. I thought of a clothesline, like, fucking Bradshaw. Like, clothesline from hell.
Joe Santagato
Not a. Not a WWE cane, you know, clothesline.
Frank Alvarez
Top. From the top rope. He did that. That was pretty cool when he would do that.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. No, but I'm thinking about just like a. Like a clothesline.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah.
Joe Santagato
Clothes on. It just blown in the, bro. I'm like, that's so nice.
Frank Alvarez
I don't. Why don't we bring that back? I'll tell you. I like that. I don't like. Have you seen the people? It looks like, in their backyard, and they have, like, a fucking. It looks like an antenna. It's like a metal thing, and then it comes out, and there's, like, lines between the arms. Those suck.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, I don't like that.
Frank Alvarez
Those suck. But, like, I am all for a clothesline, but it needs to be like, an old Italian woman that's doing it. Like, I don't want a clothesline if it's, like, a young, hip person in Brooklyn and they're just like, namaste, I'm drying my, you know, 100 hemp seed twill sweatshirt. I want it to be just like an old Italian woman who you're gonna see, and she'd be like, ciao, bang.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
You know, and she's taken. Just all white clothing, dude.
Joe Santagato
Where I grew up, I had an alleyway in the back, so everyone's house was, like. The back of everyone's house was facing each other, and everyone had clothesline. So there was a line that would go from a bedroom on, like, a wheel and would go out to a pole that was in your yard. So hang their clothes, and they would, like, wheel the clothes. Hell, yeah. And then they'd wheel them back in. They were all on clothes pins, and somehow these clothes pins you want to talk about simple machinery, incredible design, innovation. There was never any clothes on the ground.
Frank Alvarez
Never.
Joe Santagato
Windstorm wouldn't matter.
Frank Alvarez
Seriously, like, yo, like, I've seen those things last through storms. You know? Who had one? The reason I'm saying this, you remember Ms. Valentini?
Joe Santagato
Yes, she. Who was she? She's the. No, she was like an aid.
Frank Alvarez
Like a lunch aid or something.
Joe Santagato
Librarian. She lives on your block?
Frank Alvarez
No, Ms. Martinez did not live the. The across the street. Librarian at St. Francis. Ms. Carpanini lived on my block also.
Joe Santagato
I'm getting my librarian also.
Frank Alvarez
Old Italian.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
You know, Ms. Martinez was a little mean. A little, bro.
Joe Santagato
Our librarian growing up was kind of like.
Frank Alvarez
And also long skirts. The only other thing I knew about her was that she Was a former rockette.
Joe Santagato
What?
Frank Alvarez
Yeah.
Joe Santagato
Ms. Martinez.
Frank Alvarez
Yes.
Joe Santagato
Was a Rockette.
Frank Alvarez
Yes.
Joe Santagato
How do you go Rockette to books?
Frank Alvarez
You know, things happen in life.
Joe Santagato
She wore big skirts.
Frank Alvarez
Big skirts. Long, big teacher. Like Ms. Frizzle Skirts. You know what I'm talking about?
Joe Santagato
I always picture them being rough.
Frank Alvarez
Well, Ms. Frizzle had like rough skirts.
Joe Santagato
She wore like dresses.
Frank Alvarez
Ms. Frizzle. For those you guys that don't know Rocket ship, Magic school and magic school bus.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, you know. Yeah. Ms. Frizzle is up there.
Frank Alvarez
Low key as like 90s Ms. Frizzle.
Joe Santagato
Oh my God.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. Pull a picture up. Pull a picture of a 90s Ms. Frizzle. She had it going on. They did a remake and I don't.
Joe Santagato
Remember who was earrings in the game.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, the Saturn. The Saturn earrings. Where is she? Where is she?
Joe Santagato
Like, this is just a hot. Hell yeah, bro. Oh my God, dude.
Frank Alvarez
With the pizza dress with the pizza. Oh, is that cheese or pizza?
Joe Santagato
No, that's pizza.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, what is those earrings?
Ant
Sandwiches.
Joe Santagato
I don't know.
Frank Alvarez
It was still fire. Honestly, just a sexy woman.
Joe Santagato
Honestly, just.
Frank Alvarez
Just like she had it going on. Her voice sucked though.
Joe Santagato
I don't look.
Frank Alvarez
That's the remake. Ms. Frizzle. They ruined Ms. Frizzle.
Joe Santagato
No, no, they ruined her.
Frank Alvarez
What the hell is this?
Joe Santagato
Nah, a blue shirt.
Frank Alvarez
Where's the patterns, dude? Where's the. She had. Oh, well, they put a heart necklace on her to simplify it. Oh, minimalistic design.
Joe Santagato
Maybe it's her daughter.
Frank Alvarez
Might be her.
Ant
That would make.
Frank Alvarez
No, we need to talk about Ms. Frizzle's new clothes, bro. You're gonna tell me that you think a blue long sleeve T shirt's cooler than a dress that has cheese on it?
Joe Santagato
Yeah, dude.
Frank Alvarez
Dude, you should. That's what we should be for Halloween. You should be Ms. Frizzle.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
And I'll be the lizard. Look what they did, dude.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
You know what? I'm on board.
Joe Santagato
Yo. Look at how.
Frank Alvarez
Cancel the lefties.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, I agree. Look at, look at, look at Ms. Frizzle in that photo, dude. Like, that's a sexy woman.
Frank Alvarez
She's got it going on, dude. And she knows a ton of shit.
Joe Santagato
And she was cool.
Frank Alvarez
She was mad cool. She was like, I'm hip.
Joe Santagato
And she was kind of irresponsible.
Frank Alvarez
She had a little bit of a, like a, like a, like a little like, edge to her.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. She's like, I'm gonna take these kids and we're gonna shrink them.
Frank Alvarez
Guess what? We're going inside a human's nose. Get in Kids, buckle up.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, we're not. The field trip isn't to the farm. It's to Tommy's bloodstream. We're gonna go check out the red blood cells.
Frank Alvarez
Absolutely, dude. Why? Where are you going now, brother?
Ant
Well, I was just scrolling down, looking around.
Frank Alvarez
Dude, Ms. Frizzle, absolute dime piece. Teachers should dress like that.
Joe Santagato
That's like a thing I saw on TikTok recently, actually, that teachers, like, do.
Frank Alvarez
Like Ms. Frizzle dresses.
Joe Santagato
No, no, no, no, no. That teachers. Some teachers are dressing like too sexy. They're saying, like, some people, like, all right, you're doing like outfit of the day.
Frank Alvarez
I am. I am not going to touch that with a ten foot pole, you know, telling people how to. And how to not dress.
Joe Santagato
No, I'm saying, like, there's discourse, I think. I'm not asking your opinion. I'm saying there's discourse on the Internet of being like, well, hold on. No, ask my opinion. You just said you're not going to give your opinion.
Frank Alvarez
Damn right I won't. Ipso facto. I like to stay in the middle. Second.
Joe Santagato
Ipso facto. But I think we should go back to, I think less Ms. Frizzle type shit.
Frank Alvarez
I 100% agree, Joey.
Joe Santagato
Like, those are cool, bro.
Frank Alvarez
Look up, bro.
Joe Santagato
If you're a science teacher and you're teaching young kids, you should dress like a mad scientist.
Frank Alvarez
Like, let's make this lab coat. Lab coat. Goggles on your head. Stupid. And you have thick glasses. Yes, thick glasses.
Joe Santagato
Very thick glasses.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, absolutely. And there should be beakers and beakers and testing tubes. What are they called? Test tubes.
Joe Santagato
And when the kids are filing in.
Frank Alvarez
Should be exploding and. Or. And it should be exploding and you should come out from under the desk with like a billow of smoke and you're like, whoa. And you put your goggles on your head and you're just like, we have quite the class today. Yeah, like, it should be, bro. School.
Joe Santagato
There should be costumes.
Frank Alvarez
Costumes, costumes, costumes, Costumes, bro. First of all, if you're an English teacher, this is just like Edgar Allan Poe. This is hysterical. Because also pay these teachers better. They should. And also pay for them to do these costumes. These teachers take a lot of money out of their own paychecks to like decorate their classrooms and shit. Criminally underpaid, criminally overworked. You're gonna be like, you need to make this a special environment off of your $40,000 a year salary, bro. Schools. How about that? Schools.
Joe Santagato
How about a double middle?
Frank Alvarez
How about double for you? Schools. Teachers. You get that finger.
Joe Santagato
Why Are teachers basically panhandling for supplies for fucking children?
Frank Alvarez
Schools. This. You're a school. This is what you should do. Who do I got to talk to about Linda McMahon? Linda what? She's the Secretary of education in the United States. I think I forget that this country. Yeah, it's a. I forget it's a real place. I disassociate my house. It is munching. Linda McMahon. Don't make me call Stone Cold.
Joe Santagato
We've seen what happens.
Frank Alvarez
See what happens when so called gets involved? You should go like this. Hey, schools. Here's a blank check for teachers. You tell us what you think is an appropriate amount of money for you to do your job. Well, they're great people. They're signing up to be teachers anyways. That's a very thankless, hard job. And then let them do costumes every day.
Joe Santagato
I think that teachers should drive like. Like a science teacher. I should know You're a science teacher, bro.
Frank Alvarez
I should walk in and, like, I should be able to close my eyes. Imagine a librarian, and that's what they're wearing.
Joe Santagato
I think that would make learning for children more fun.
Frank Alvarez
You're gonna tell me. Audience listening to the Basement Yard podcast with Joe and Frank on United Airlines flights. I don't know if this episode will go there. You're gonna tell me you wouldn't be a better student if your teacher dressed and looked and acted like Ms. Frizzle or fucking Bill Nye the Science Guy. Dude, if I walked in and there was at. My science teacher was in a lab coat. I used to walk in and he was wearing a fucking plaid T shirt. I don't want that shit. Yeah, save that for fucking the outdoors. Wood shop. Wood shop.
Joe Santagato
I took one wood shop.
Frank Alvarez
All right, let's build. Let's build our perfect teaching staff. Wood shop, obviously, is Nick Offerman.
Joe Santagato
I'm not doing this. Also, that's an actor.
Frank Alvarez
But you see what he wears, dude.
Joe Santagato
Because he's got a mustache.
Frank Alvarez
No, he wears flannels and stuff.
Joe Santagato
I don't know what you're building over there.
Frank Alvarez
Ms. Frizzle is my homeroom teacher. Science teacher. Bill Nye. He's the science guy.
Joe Santagato
I heard he's a dick.
Frank Alvarez
Really?
Joe Santagato
That's what I heard.
Frank Alvarez
Damn, that sucks.
Joe Santagato
What about Mr. Firestone? That's a science teacher's name.
Frank Alvarez
That is a really good.
Joe Santagato
That was our science teacher growing up.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, we had. I'm not gonna say Firestone. I almost let his name slide.
Joe Santagato
Mr. Firestone?
Frank Alvarez
No, the other science teacher we had.
Joe Santagato
Oh. Why is that bad?
Frank Alvarez
Because of what we used to call him.
Joe Santagato
Oh, I probably told him that.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, all right.
Joe Santagato
He was mad cool.
Frank Alvarez
He was really cool. Him and I used to chat video games all the time.
Joe Santagato
Really?
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. Who would be the math. What does the math teacher need to wear?
Joe Santagato
That's a good question.
Frank Alvarez
Math teacher needs to wear a button up shirt buttoned all the way with a bow tie and penalty checkered pattern.
Joe Santagato
Oh, we already know what the music teachers wearing. Piano tie.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, yeah.
Joe Santagato
Every day.
Frank Alvarez
Piano tie. And a. And like you remember in the movie Grease, they would wear like poodle skirts.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
I just imagine that's what they would be wearing with like those glasses that, like, had the wings on them. And they'd be like, we're gonna sing today.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, yeah.
Frank Alvarez
You know, and then they're doing this with every song.
Joe Santagato
Who do you think, out of all of our teachers, like, had the coolest vibe?
Frank Alvarez
Damn. Science. He was. He was a cool dude.
Joe Santagato
I meant like the way they dress and kind of like did their class.
Frank Alvarez
He was a cool dude.
Joe Santagato
Oh, yeah.
Frank Alvarez
He was like. He was a pretty cool dude.
Ant
He did.
Frank Alvarez
He sunned us, Mr. N. He sunned the out of us. He was just like, guys, in that closet is the world's most dangerous animal.
Joe Santagato
I'll never forget that.
Frank Alvarez
I'll never. To the day I die.
Joe Santagato
I remember that vividly.
Frank Alvarez
And that's what teaching does. Good for him. Is he retired?
Joe Santagato
I don't know.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, well, that's. He had a pretty cool. He was chill. He was younger.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Frank Alvarez
He was getting after it.
Joe Santagato
He was.
Frank Alvarez
He was getting there.
Ant
My. My chemistry teacher taught us how to not make meth.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah, I can. I can teach you how to not make meth. You ready? Watch this.
Ant
No, he was like, don't put these ingredients together because you'll make meth. And then he would give the ingredients.
Frank Alvarez
So he taught you how to make.
Ant
Taught us how to make.
Frank Alvarez
That's not cool. That's borderline sociopathic.
Joe Santagato
I thought it was like a Walter White. He's like, where's my Jesse Pink?
Ant
Yeah, I think. I think Breaking Bad was big. He was scouting out a little bit.
Frank Alvarez
That's.
Joe Santagato
That's a smart way to go.
Frank Alvarez
Honestly, hold up in court.
Joe Santagato
I said, don't do it.
Frank Alvarez
He was pretty cool. Our fourth grade teacher, she was cool as the door.
Joe Santagato
Yeah. Stormus.
Frank Alvarez
Yeah. She was a cool.
Joe Santagato
She was cool.
Frank Alvarez
She was chilling. She was like, you know, I'm chill. I'm cool.
Joe Santagato
Who. Who's your least favorite.
Frank Alvarez
Second grade?
Joe Santagato
The Mac.
Frank Alvarez
The Mac attack, bro. Mac attack was a Mean old broad.
Joe Santagato
She was.
Frank Alvarez
She was a mean old woman.
Joe Santagato
She didn't like me and you.
Frank Alvarez
She didn't like us.
Joe Santagato
Yeah.
Ant
Our English teacher in fourth grade, her brother passed. And every time something happened in the classroom, like if the desk shook or a flyer fell, she would be. Oh, Jimmy. So, like, in fourth grade.
Joe Santagato
Oh, no, bro.
Ant
We thought there was a ghost in our classroom.
Joe Santagato
Oh, I I. I was gonna say, if I got a hold of that, I'd be throwing shit. Oh, Jimmy. She's really hanging out today.
Frank Alvarez
Gotcha.
Joe Santagato
I thought, son's dead. Who was it, her son?
Ant
No, her brother or something.
Joe Santagato
Oh, okay.
Frank Alvarez
Her brother died a while ago.
Ant
Yeah. I don't know.
Joe Santagato
Sad, dude.
Ant
Yeah, it was. But she convinced me that ghosts were real. I was very scared for a while. I didn't want to go into the classroom.
Frank Alvarez
Who cares? Her brother died. Why she got to put that on you guys? That's irresponsible of her.
Joe Santagato
Huh? That's crazy.
Ant
Mm.
Joe Santagato
Dude, I remember second. I. I remember in second grade, I think I told this story before, but, like, do you remember that kid's name? There was, like, an Indian kid that came to school late. Do you remember his name?
Frank Alvarez
What?
Joe Santagato
Great.
Frank Alvarez
Second grade.
Joe Santagato
Second grade. I can't remember his name, but, like, it was. It wasn't the middle of the year, but, like, we had already been in class, so everyone kind of knew each other. And then this kid just showed up, like, later, and I forget his name, but then it was like, oh, everyone pair up. So I was like, oh, I'll pair up with the kid who just got here. Like, be nice or some, right? So we kind of do this thing together and blah, blah, blah. Then we go back to, you know, something else that we're doing. And then later on in the day, it was like. And he didn't really talk to anybody. It was his first day. Then later on the day, it was like, oh, pair up with another person again. So I look over at him. He looks away and picks someone else.
Frank Alvarez
I was like, yeah, what a bitch. He was playing the field, though. He was playing the field. He wanted. He was.
Joe Santagato
He was trying to cast a wide net. I know that, though.
Frank Alvarez
That's fair.
Joe Santagato
That kid's name. And there you go. Maybe I would have remembered.
Frank Alvarez
Oh, I was in the corner, seething. Probably because somebody else.
Joe Santagato
Bitch. Yeah, Frank's over there, like, you know, writing a manifesto. He's gonna kill me.
Frank Alvarez
Me.
Joe Santagato
How dare you not pick me to be your partner.
Frank Alvarez
And pick. I just. I just feel like that was just mean, you know? Watch what I'm going to do.
Joe Santagato
Yeah, that was also the same year you got mad at me because of Kelsey. There was a lot that year. There's a lot that year.
Frank Alvarez
Be careful. I can still write that manifesto.
Joe Santagato
I know. Okay, well, there you have it, folks. That is our episode for today. Frank, where can they find you?
Frank Alvarez
Let's just keep going. You want me to talk II how's your day?
Joe Santagato
See?
Frank Alvarez
You know where to find me. Go check it out everywhere. Go check out the basement yard. Patreon patreon.com the Basemanyard Go check out the basement yard on United airlines flights if you're coming to the shows the basementyard.com submit if you want to see if there are any tickets available. The basementyard.com guys, go follow the show.
Joe Santagato
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Frank Alvarez
That's all. Thank you guys so much.
Joe Santagato
We'll see you next time.
Frank Alvarez
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Released: September 15, 2025 – Santagato Studios
Hosts: Joe Santagato & Frank Alvarez
Special Guest: Ant
In this episode, Joe and Frank dive into the bizarre and unsettling story behind the Netflix documentary "Unknown Caller." The episode unpacks a shocking true crime case of prolonged cyberbullying, where a mother is ultimately exposed as her daughter’s anonymous tormentor. Balancing their signature blend of irreverent humor and genuine disbelief, the co-hosts dissect the story’s psychological layers, societal takeaways, and personal reactions, then veer into light-hearted talk about spelling mnemonics, high school nostalgia, and their own hypothetical "walk across America" challenge.
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Notable Quotes:
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Joe and Frank reminisce about neighborhood clotheslines and the “old Italian woman” aesthetic (“Ciao, bang!”).
Brief tangents on elementary school staff, the librarian’s backstories, and Ms. Frizzle’s iconic style.
They brainstorm what real-life teachers should wear for subjects:
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Frank (on cyberbullying reveal):
Joe (on emotional damage):
Frank (on immediate reaction):
On teaching & nostalgia:
Classic Santagato banter:
Summary:
Episode #520 of The Basement Yard seamlessly blends shock and levity as Joe and Frank process the deeply disturbing “Unknown Caller” case, reflect on their own values regarding family and forgiveness, and then lighten the mood with classic banter about spelling, hypothetical million-dollar walks, and 90s pop culture. The episode showcases both the hosts' capacity for empathy and their commitment to making even the darkest subject matter amusing and relatable.